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1 Bob Dillon  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 9:34:47am

Some of my classmates and I started becoming aware there might be a problem back in the 50s when the seeds were planted by our teachers about the Whooping Crane. My extensive travels to remote places on the planet during the 60s and 70s was confirmation thru direct observation of what is expressed in this essay.

We may well already be past the tipping point. I see technological breakthroughs yet to be discovered as a large part of hope in successfully making the transition to stability.

2 researchok  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 11:09:55am

re: #1 Bobibutu

Some of my classmates and I started becoming aware there might be a problem back in the 50s when the seeds were planted by our teachers about the Whooping Crane. My extensive travels to remote places on the planet during the 60s and 70s was confirmation thru direct observation of what is expressed in this essay.

We may well already be past the tipping point. I see technological breakthroughs yet to be discovered as a large part of hope in successfully making the transition to stability.

Much as I wish it weren't so, but I hope to heck you are wrong.

3 Bob Dillon  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:23:38pm

re: #2 researchok

I am willing/hoping to be wrong. We are in uncharted waters on so many levels tho, finance, environment, population. Its as if a fire station gets an increasing frequency of 911 calls to the point that the ability to respond is reduced to no ability to recover from the last call and respond once again at all. I have observed this trend consciously worldwide in some of the most pristine places on the planet for over 45 years including the rapid retreat of glaciers in Alaska over the 5 years I lived and traveled extensively there back in the 90s. It is why my ex and I almost decided not to bring a child into this world 31 years ago. We are experiencing the bitter fruits of out of control political greed, ignorance and mismanagement worldwide. It is going to get worse before and if it gets better. The next wars will be fought over fresh water. It will get very ugly.

4 RanchTooth  Sat, Apr 30, 2011 1:27:35pm

I think you guys would get a kick out of Jared Diamond's "Collapse". It talks about how humans affect their own environments and through their own decisions on how to deal with issues (such as food supply, climate change, etc) make their society survive or collapse. It's a great read and it ends with chapters on the US and China and how our policies are something we will have to face in the future.


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