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1 CriticalDragon1177  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 4:55:58pm

CuriousLurker,

Thanks for posting this. Although I’m pretty certain the list is not complete, but this will still be very useful.

2 wrenchwench  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:00:49pm

Favorited for reference. Thanks for posting it!

I found out today that there is another SPLC. Loks like another good one.

The Student Press Law Center is an advocate for student First Amendment rights, for freedom of online speech, and for open government on campus. The SPLC helps students and teachers whose futures are in jeopardy because they refuse to back down in the face of unlawful censorship.

3 CuriousLurker  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:01:53pm

re: #1 CriticalDragon1177

You’re welcome and you’re right, it’s not complete. It’s just a starting point I chose because it lists many of the groups we stumble upon when reading about politics & politicians.

4 CuriousLurker  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:03:09pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

You’re welcome and thank you for the other SPLC!

5 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:10:30pm

They seem to have skipped the Threepers, though I know they are aware of some of them. They, like the sovereign citizens, are not overtly focused on ‘groups’, but on government and liberal ideology. Some to see (from a distance): III Patriots/III Percent, Sipsey Street, Western Rifle Shooting Association. These groups are undergoing a good bit of internal stress and the violent rhetoric is going critical at the moment. They overlap with the Oathkeepers, who are listed.

6 CuriousLurker  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:13:41pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Thanks! I’d never heard of any of those.

7 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:19:49pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

Thanks! I’d never heard of any of those.

I watch them through Google cache, thinking not to give them hits. The IIIpercent.com faction is over the line, engaged in a blogwar with the much older (Bill Clinton era) Sipsey Street threepers. The Kerodin faction is part scam, running the ‘Citadel’ compound effort in what is called The American Redoubt (mostly Idaho). Kerodin sells nooses branded with ‘III’ as a party favor. At the moment, these clowns are more likely to do violence on each other than anyone else.

8 CriticalDragon1177  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:29:59pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

Favorited for reference. Thanks for posting it!

I found out today that there is another SPLC. Loks like another good one.

speaking of groups with similar abbreviations. “The American Defense League” which is listed here under anti Muslim groups, also has the same initials as the Anti Defamation League, which is a radically different organization. When I told anti Muslim bigot once that his beliefs were nonsense he started sending me stuff from the American Defense League in an attempt to change my mind. Since I told him that I supported the ADL, he thought I meant that anti Muslim group, rather than the Anti Defamation League. He didn’t do much research. It was after I saw the “counter jihad” for what it really was, and it was a group I didn’t support, and I think I hadn’t even heard of it until he mentioned it, almost needless to say, thankfully it didn’t work.

9 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:37:56pm

re: #8 CriticalDragon1177

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) also has a stalker org, the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), out of Regent’s University.

en.wikipedia.org

10 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:38:37pm

Awesome post, CL. Very creative use of lists. Must have taken a lot of work!

11 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:43:47pm

Reminded me of this article I read a while ago: CSS Swag: Multi-Column Lists.

12 The War TARDIS  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:48:17pm

You missed the Republican Party.

13 CuriousLurker  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:54:32pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Awesome post, CL. Very creative use of lists. Must have taken a lot of work!

Thanks (and thanks for the Page promotion last night). Yeah, it took forever, especially since the divs I was using to float the lists side by side were causing other things to go all wonky.

I need to figure out how Wikipedia does it in a single div without floats, or so it seems (I only peeked at their code briefly). They’re just bulleted lists though.

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Reminded me of this article I read a while ago: CSS Swag: Multi-Column Lists.

Nice! I hadn’t seen that one.

14 CuriousLurker  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:55:46pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) also has a stalker org, the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), out of Regent’s University.

LOL, that’s a keeper.

15 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 5:57:30pm

re: #12 The War TARDIS

You missed the Republican Party.

I promise I won’t miss the Republican Party.

16 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:04:32pm

re: #13 CuriousLurker

I need to figure out how Wikipedia does it in a single div without floats, or so it seems (I only peeked at their code briefly). They’re just bulleted lists though.

Much easier to do multi-column bulleted lists than auto-incremented numbered lists, with pure CSS.

17 CriticalDragon1177  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:28:48pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) also has a stalker org, the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), out of Regent’s University.

en.wikipedia.org

I’ve heard of them. The American Center For Law And Justice is another organization we should oppose. At least they don’t have the same abbreviation as the American Civil Liberties Union.

18 theheat  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 6:30:47pm

This list is a keeper for sure. Excellent work, and nifty CSS is the cherry on top.

19 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 7:09:38pm

Excellent work! Thank you.

20 Randall Gross  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 8:29:19pm

Great post, and excellent work CL.

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Nov 16, 2013 8:53:29pm

Awesome post! Great info.

22 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 17, 2013 8:05:30am

re: #5 Decatur Deb

They seem to have skipped the Threepers, though I know they are aware of some of them. They, like the sovereign citizens, are not overtly focused on ‘groups’, but on government and liberal ideology. Some to see (from a distance): III Patriots/III Percent, Sipsey Street, Western Rifle Shooting Association. These groups are undergoing a good bit of internal stress and the violent rhetoric is going critical at the moment. They overlap with the Oathkeepers, who are listed.

True. The SPLC reports regularly on Sov. Cit. groups, but unless they cross the line into religious or ethnic bigotry it does not call them ‘hate groups’. Its a matter of keeping definitions sufficiently ‘tight’ and taking care to not classify opposition to a strong federal government as ‘hate’. They still give it to the sovereign citizens groups with the bark on, but the care taken in classification makes the criticism more effective by making sure it is honest.

23 CuriousLurker  Sun, Nov 17, 2013 8:07:51am

re: #22 Dark_Falcon

Good point.


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