re: #205 theheat

What would you rather, I blow them? Effectively, that’s what every POTUS has done. I figure, better to cut the apron strings and go it alone, change/develop energy sources at home, and form new partnerships, than keep shooting ourselves in the foot pandering to assholes.

So those are the choices? They suck your imaginary dick or you suck theirs? Can’t you just shake hands and walk away and have nothing more to do with them than you absolutely have to?

In re healthcare - you’re making an argument for socialism. I can agree with the points of the problem, but not the solution. In real life, I’m a self-employed capitalist, and have been for years. I’ve seen the government at work, and there’s no reason to think Obama is less of a bureaucrat, and more efficient. None. (Cash for Clunkers, anyone?) Therefore, I don’t believe in decimating insurance companies to provide a nanny state.

Oh noes! SOCIALISM IS STEALING MY BABIES!

Let’s see, Medicare, check. Social Security, check. Socialism taking over the country, damn! And we were SO close too..

Look, no one is talking about a free lunch here. Those who can’t get insurance will be able to and those with it will be treated better by the insurance industry. Bottom line.

It’s not about changing the country to socialism, it’s about making health care work for everyone.

Self-employed? How big is your family and how much does your insurance cost? Can you quadruple your income in the next 4 years? Because that is what, at a minimum, is going to happen to your health care costs while you pay for those who are denied access to insurance now.

Is that a win for you?