re: #815 Salamantis
It’s not a matter of us coming from apes, it’s a matter of apes and us coming from common ancestors.
I went to an exhibit at the SF Natural Science Museum some years ago, on human evolution. I had never before seen a silhouette of the critter that left the ‘Lucy’ bones standing upright before.
They were so little. It got to me somehow, that this tiny little creature was a people matriarch.