You are the juice. The juice is you!

Just ask any wingnut who showed up at the Taxmas Tea party rallies. No matter how underpopulated those rallies were, the juice kept the true believers on track.

I heartily endorse this product.

The Juice are behind this…

re: #2 ralphieboy

The Juice are behind this…

They always are. Specially the orange ones.

re: #1 Cato the Elder

Powerthirst rules!

re: #3 Cato the Elder

They always are. Specially the orange ones.

And don’t forget the Pulpists…

OT:

Update on the involuntary extended vacation of A_B and She Who Must Be Obeyed in Edinburgh, Scotland.

Well, the Gigantic Icelandic Pain in the Ash Cloud continues to play holy hell with air traffic in Europe. Scottish air space opened for a time yesterday and three flights made it into Glasgow from…Iceland. Yup. Irony is alive and well! The first 600 of the bazillions of stranded souls got into the UK by air. A few flights got out through Glasgow yesterday, too, westbound.

At this point, it’s grin and bear it time. We are still booked for a Monday flight to Newark, so we are hopeful. But one big burp by The Nemesis in Iceland will change the metrics all over again. Over a million people are trapped. All road, rail, and ferry options are fully booked. The carriers are now saying that it will probably take ten days to get this pig through the snake, even if the Cloud clears as projected form west to east starting today.

Fortunately, it’s a big Trad music day in Edinburgh, and several friends are playing who we will be able to see. If life gives you lemons, drink lots of Shandies!

re: #7 austin_blue

Good luck!

I’ve got a book which explains how anyone can turn lead into 99.9 percent pure 24-carat gold.

A little something-something for the “Obama gonna take mah guns!!1!” crowd…

Ariz. House approves concealed weapons bill

The Arizona House voted Thursday to make the state the third in the nation to allow people to carry concealed weapons without a permit, sending the governor a bill that would allow Arizonans to forego background checks and classes that are now required.

The legislation, approved by the House 36-19 without discussion, would make it legal for most U.S. citizens 21 or older to carry a concealed weapon in Arizona without the permit now required. Currently, carrying a hidden firearm without a permit is a misdemeanor punishable by up to six months in jail and a fine of up to $2,500.

Sen. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican who sponsored the measure, said last week that he added changes requested by Gov. Jan Brewer’s office, an indication that she is likely to sign it. The governor can sign or veto the measure, or allow it to become law without action.

If the legislation is enacted, Arizona would join Alaska and Vermont in not requiring permits to carry concealed weapons. Forty-five other states require permits for hidden guns, and two states — Illinois and Wisconsin — prohibit them altogether.

April 6th— I presume it’s been mentioned here, but this was the first I’d heard of it and it just popped up on memorandum.

re: #8 freetoken

Good luck!

Thank you, my man. This is nothing if not a fascinating display of the limitations inherent in Tech vs. Nature. If this had been a simple eruption of a relatively small mid-Atlantic Ridge fissure, this would not have happened. Unfortunately, the fissure was covered by 200 meters of glacial ice, resulting in a phreatomagmatic explosion that injected particulatesup to 40,000 feet.

MILK POWER!

/also g’dafternoon

re: #12 austin_blue

Just remember… we are but one super-volcano away from extinction.

re: #14 freetoken

Just remember… we are but one super-volcano away from extinction.

Among many other things.

Really teaches you the worth of the human species in the grand scheme of things.

re: #15 lazardo

Really teaches you the worth of the human species in the grand scheme of things.

We are gnats inhabiting the furry underbelly of the cosmic platypus.

re: #16 freetoken

We are gnats inhabiting the furry underbelly of the cosmic platypus.

The universe is a furry!?

/excuse me while I rage.

Gotta go. It’s 10:45 local and gigs start at 11:00. SWMBO is anxious to hear the music! May check in later.

Hope all is well for Lizardi back in the States. Good fortune to us all!

re: #17 lazardo

The universe is a furry!?

/excuse me while I rage.

NO no… the platypus is furry.

This is from a couple of days ago, so it may have been mentioned here already:

Conservatives Debate: Is Obama’s Mother’s Taste In Men Relevant To The War Against Islamofascists?

There’s a bizarre conversation going on between a number conservative writers over the right hysterical tone to take against Barack Obama’s insidious agenda, kicked off by this from Human Events’ First Things’ David Goldman:

I’ve been screaming about this for more than two years: Obama is the loyal son of a left-wing anthropologist mother who sought to expiate her white guilt by going to bed with Muslim Third World men. He is a Third World anthropologist studying us, learning our culture and our customs the better to neutralize what he considers to be a malignant American influence in world affairs.

[…]

Then Michael Ledeen intervened to defend Goldman, who Ledeen assures us “has offered plenty of evidence to explain why he believes” these things, and claims that Podhoretz “would have done better if had taken a bit of time to study the facts of Obama’s life“

[…]

So, for those of you keeping score at home: The “crazy” side of this debate (Goldman, Ledeen) believes that President Obama’s mother’s choice of male companions is hugely relevant to understanding his plans for surrendering to the Islamofascists. The “sane” side (Podhoretz, Wehner) thinks that President Obama’s mother’s choice of male companions is irrelevant to the fact that President Obama doesn’t like America very much.

When this is the state of the debate among “serious, mainstream” conservatives, is it really any wonder that the sign below is a regular feature at tea parties?

Loads of links in that piece, and a comment by Gus802 in spinoffs reminded me of this LGF post from Nov 2009.

re: #21 iceweasel

This is from a couple of days ago, so it may have been mentioned here already:

Conservatives Debate: Is Obama’s Mother’s Taste In Men Relevant To The War Against Islamofascists?

Link fixt!

re: #21 iceweasel

This is from a couple of days ago, so it may have been mentioned here already:

Conservatives Debate: Is Obama’s Mother’s Taste In Men Relevant To The War Against Islamofascists?

Loads of links in that piece, and a comment by Gus802 in spinoffs reminded me of this LGF post from Nov 2009.

Human Events. Home to the segregationist Medford Evans.

re: #22 iceweasel

Link fixt!

This is an appeal to a knee-jerk reaction that goes back to the days of slavery: protecting the integrity of our White Womanhood. Obama’s very existence is a threat and affront to that.

re: #24 ralphieboy

This is an appeal to a knee-jerk reaction that goes back to the days of slavery: protecting the integrity of our White Womanhood. Obama’s very existence is a threat and affront to that.

Sure— but it isn’t his existence as a black man, for the most part.

It’s his existence as a black man who is the POTUS.

It’s also his existence as someone who is biracial. Let’s face it— THAT is what is REALLY freaking the teabaggers and their ilk. Not just “Gah! Black man!” but rather “Gah! Multicultural society!”

Oh yeah. We’re hearing Dixie now in part because of the ‘miscegenation’.

That’s why the number one Wingnut criticism of Obama is always “He’s black”, even while the number two Wingnut criticism is always “He’s not black enough.”

re: #21 iceweasel

This is from a couple of days ago, so it may have been mentioned here already:

Conservatives Debate: Is Obama’s Mother’s Taste In Men Relevant To The War Against Islamofascists?

Loads of links in that piece, and a comment by Gus802 in spinoffs reminded me of this LGF post from Nov 2009.

Makes you wonder. What more do these crazed extremists want? If this is what they’re calling “surrender” I’m not seeing it. Not with the buildup in Afghanistan and the maintenance of the war on terror. June will also mark the start of a large military offensive against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the region.

re: #26 iceweasel

Sure— but it isn’t his existence as a black man, for the most part.

It’s his existence as a black man who is the POTUS.

It’s also his existence as someone who is biracial. Let’s face it— THAT is what is REALLY freaking the teabaggers and their ilk. Not just “Gah! Black man!” but rather “Gah! Multicultural society!”

Oh yeah. We’re hearing Dixie now in part because of the ‘miscegenation’.

That’s why the number one Wingnut criticism of Obama is always “He’s black”, even while the number two Wingnut criticism is always “He’s not black enough.”

These guys say they want to see black people work hard and earn their place in society, but what they seem to watn is for black people to work hard and know their place in society, namely at the bottom.

re: #26 iceweasel

Sure— but it isn’t his existence as a black man, for the most part.

It’s his existence as a black man who is the POTUS.

It’s also his existence as someone who is biracial. Let’s face it— THAT is what is REALLY freaking the teabaggers and their ilk. Not just “Gah! Black man!” but rather “Gah! Multicultural society!”

Oh yeah. We’re hearing Dixie now in part because of the ‘miscegenation’.

That’s why the number one Wingnut criticism of Obama is always “He’s black”, even while the number two Wingnut criticism is always “He’s not black enough.”

They’re racists plain and simple. That they analyzing the racial component of his parents makes it obvious. That they’re using it to criticize him makes it doubly so. People keep saying “it’s not about race” but many of them continue to bring up race and in a highly negative light. We wouldn’t be engaged in this conversation if Obama was the Nativist ideal of a white man.

re: #27 Gus 802

Makes you wonder. What more do these crazed extremists want? If this is what they’re calling “surrender” I’m not seeing it. Not with the buildup in Afghanistan and the maintenance of the war on terror. June will also mark the start of a large military offensive against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the region.

But that’s exactly it. What they want is an old white guy in the White House. What they really want most of all is a Republican in the White House (which means old white guy anyway, or has til now).

That’s the sole reason why they hate Obama even for continuing Bush policies, even for amping up operations— there is literally nothing he can do that will make them happy, because he isn’t one of their team.

Some of them, ‘team’ means ‘white’; for most, it just means “Republican”.
Obama is a Dem, ergo he must be weak on defense, a coward, effeminate, and not up to the job of dealing with Our Evil Enemies. This is the GOP and MSM meme about Dems w/r/t foreign policy, and so it shall be regardless of their actions and policies.

re: #29 Gus 802

They’re racists plain and simple. That they analyzing the racial component of his parents makes it obvious. That they’re using it to criticize him makes it doubly so. People keep saying “it’s not about race” but many of them continue to bring up race and in a highly negative light. We wouldn’t be engaged in this conversation if Obama was the Nativist ideal of a white man.

Yep.

Saint Reagan was married twice. I don’t recall anyone suggesting he had a fondness for First World Women./

re: #31 iceweasel

Yep.

Saint Reagan was married twice. I don’t recall anyone suggesting he had a fondness for First World Women./

American. White. Native.

roll that over your toungue a few time and then tell me what it tastes like…

re: #31 iceweasel

Yep.

Saint Reagan was married twice. I don’t recall anyone suggesting he had a fondness for First World Women./

Divorce was a big issue in this puritanical society not so long ago. But yes, Reagan was a divorcee. As was most of them. But you know that in this society when I white man transgresses societal norms they are still held in higher regard than when a black man transgresses said norms. In this case it is made more apparent by their focus on the racial aspect of his father. Thus they take his mother down as Ralphieboy mentioned in #24.

Here’s some speculation: I hypothesise that the wingnut fascination with Obama’s life story, and the rage and insanity it sparks in them, has at least as much to do with the way it subverts their prejudices as it encourages them:

Very young mother, pregnant and unmarried, then married and abandoned by the father? CHECK

Mother becomes an anthropologist? OOOH BURN!

Father has other wives? CHECK!

Father went to Harvard? OOOH BURN!

And so on. This is why they hate him. It isn’t as simple as ‘he’s black’.

Sigh.

Nobody got too upset about Nancy donsulting an Astrologer to plan Ronal’d itinerary, either.

Reagan used the religious Right to get into power and quickly dumped them once he got established.

They learned their lesson and set out to insinuate as many of their people into positions of power and authority as they could. They reached their apex under the Bush administration with people like Richard Ashcroft.

And I also see the palin candidacy as their big (failed) power grab: taking her on as a running mate was the quid pro quo for supporting McCain

Le sigh…

re: #34 iceweasel

Here’s some speculation: I hypothesise that the wingnut fascination with Obama’s life story, and the rage and insanity it sparks in them, has at least as much to do with the way it subverts their prejudices as it encourages them:

Very young mother, pregnant and unmarried, then married and abandoned by the father? CHECK

Mother becomes an anthropologist? OOOH BURN!

Father has other wives? CHECK!

Father went to Harvard? OOOH BURN!

And so on. This is why they hate him. It isn’t as simple as ‘he’s black’.

Or what they even do on “their own team”:

South Carolina Accusations

During the 2000 Republican primary in South Carolina, a controversial push poll suggested to voters that Bridget McCain was an “illegitimate black child” of John McCain’s. In a coordinated effort, a Republican operative, the allusively named Richard Hand of Bob Jones University, sent a mass e-mail claiming that McCain had “chosen to sire children without marriage.”

The tactic was near-universally acknowledged to have been the handiwork of the Bush campaign, and specifically of its chief strategist, Karl Rove, whose career in politics included many similar events. Rove has denied involvement, and in April, 2008, reportedly provided consultation services to McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign.

and Dirty Tricks, South Carolina and John McCain

Seven years later, who is running McCain’s South Carolina campaign? Charlie Condon, the former State Attorney General who in 2000 helped spread the innuendo targeting Bridget. If you can’t beat them, hire them—even if they’ve launched racist attacks against your own daughter.

Bridget McCain was a seriously ill baby in Mother Teresa’s orphanage when Cindy McCain visited and decided to bring her back to the United States for medical treatment in 1991. John and Cindy adopted her not long after. Now 16, Bridget learned of her role in the 2000 campaign only when she Googled herself. According to the New York Times, when McCain entered the current race, Bridget summoned his aides and asked them to pledge that this campaign would be different.

We can’t know what reassurances were offered, but Condon doesn’t seem to have repented for his role in the 2000 slander. He told the New York Times reporter that he wasn’t surprised about the downward spiral of the Bush-McCain race. “Our primaries have a way of doing that,” Condon said. “There is a tradition of it, it is accepted behavior, and frankly it works.”

Creeps.

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sigh.

Si

re: #38 Gus 802

Creeps.

Ah, South Carolina.
June 2009:
SC Republican Compares Michelle Obama to Escaped Gorilla

re: #34 iceweasel

I really, really, really disliked Bill Clinton. Of course I was into Rush and all that, then.

President Clinton was a moderate. Turns out that he (and Hillary for that matter) were moderates. The uber-leftiness of the young Clintons must have dissipated as the reality of the real world became apparent as they aged.

President Obama talks pretty moderate, he is blowing people up with awesomeness; but his people are (generally, from what I can tell) far from moderates.

I like him much less than Bill Clinton.

re: #36 ralphieboy

Nobody got too upset about Nancy donsulting an Astrologer to plan Ronal’d itinerary, either.

Reagan used the religious Right to get into power and quickly dumped them once he got established.

They learned their lesson and set out to insinuate as many of their people into positions of power and authority as they could. They reached their apex under the Bush administration with people like Richard Ashcroft.

And I also see the palin candidacy as their big (failed) power grab: taking her on as a running mate was the quid pro quo for supporting McCain

I’ve gotten to the point were I don’t understand McCain. Or maybe I do understand him. When he’s not running for office he’s “the Maverick” or the right leaning moderate willing to go across the aisle. When he’s running for office he morphs into a right-wing theocrat loving hardliner. I really lost a lot of respect that I had for him when he was for the most part a free agent. Not any more — even though he’s still saner than JD Hayworth.

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I really, really, really disliked Bill Clinton. Of course I was into Rush and all that, then.

President Clinton was a moderate. Turns out that he (and Hillary for that matter) were moderates. The uber-leftiness of the young Clintons must have dissipated as the reality of the real world became apparent as they aged.

President Obama talks pretty moderate, he is blowing people up with awesomeness; but his people are (generally, from what I can tell) far from moderates.

I like him much less than Bill Clinton.

But a lot of people in the Obama staff are former Clinton staffers. Perhaps some can’t be considered moderates but I would not call them extremists either. Which was the same but opposite accusation levied on Bush staffers. There are other examples with the current admin such as Paul Volcker who in fact was kept on by the Reagan administration almost to the end. Of course his role is more of a consultant. Obama did go out of his way to hire Republicans early on.

Infomercials are too complicated and they take too long to watch. I like to keep things simple: I’ll tell you the secrets of the universe if you send me all your money. Act now!

McCain ws being groomed for bigger things ever since he married into a wealthy Arizona family who bought him the Republican nomination in a Congressional district that ensured him his election to the House or Representatives.

But he chose the wrong time to run for President against Bush. despite his strong initial showings, Bush was already the Party establishment’s candidate, and they pulled out all the stops to scupper McCain’s campaign

By the time he got the chance to run again in 2008 he was too old and had been aro0und politics too long be able to hide the fact that he was just another politician.

re: #44 The Curmudgeon

Infomercials are too complicated and they take too long to watch. I like to keep things simple: I’ll tell you the secrets of the universe if you send me all your money. Act now!

BUY GOLD!

re: #44 The Curmudgeon

Infomercials are too complicated and they take too long to watch. I like to keep things simple: I’ll tell you the secrets of the universe if you send me all your money. Act now!

It’s simple math.

There are thousands of TV channels that need 24/7 programming
There are probably a total of 10 TV shows worth watching, the longest of which being ONE hour
The stations have to fill the rest of the time with SOEMTHING

YOU do the math
/

Back when TV was just starting programming was only on for about 12 hours a day, on only a handful of stations. People would actually sit and watch nothing but a test pattern just because the marvel of it actually being in their home

re: #43 Gus 802

If you’re not a moderate, you are an extremist.
/

Oh, okay… you’re not.

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Working today?

re: #45 ralphieboy

McCain ws being groomed for bigger things ever since he married into a wealthy Arizona family who bought him the Republican nomination in a Congressional district that ensured him his election to the House or Representatives.

But he chose the wrong time to run for President against Bush. despite his strong initial showings, Bush was already the Party establishment’s candidate, and they pulled out all the stops to scupper McCain’s campaign

By the time he got the chance to run again in 2008 he was too old and had been aro0und politics too long be able to hide the fact that he was just another politician.

Bush senior once said that the US should lead and not be “the world’s policeman.” Junior also alluded to the same thing during a debate. Interesting considering that the latter was considered the establishment candidate. There was always some reluctance towards Bush which is why we now have the Glenn Becks of the world calling him a progressive.

Not unlike politicians, American also flip flop on issues. It was the Democrats turn in 2008. Just like we went from Bill Clinton to George Bush in 2000 — almost in a blink of an eye. So, we go back and forth between the two parties.

re: #49 sattv4u2

Yep… about time to put the tie on!

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If you’re not a moderate, you are an extremist.
/

Oh, okay… you’re not.

Hey, I have my secrets. One of the reasons I never mention anything about taxes. I still hates ‘em.

/Tea Party!

/

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep… about time to put the tie on!

Don’t forget your pants!
Have a great day today

re: #52 Gus 802

Uh… my wife just looked over my shoulder and said, “I wish my name was Gus.”

That’s crazy talk right there…

re: #47 sattv4u2

It’s simple math.

There are thousands of TV channels that need 24/7 programming
There are probably a total of 10 TV shows worth watching, the longest of which being ONE hour
The stations have to fill the rest of the time with SOEMTHING

YOU do the math
/

Back when TV was just starting programming was only on for about 12 hours a day, on only a handful of stations. People would actually sit and watch nothing but a test pattern just because the marvel of it actually being in their home

Not just math, but basic psychology:

We all know deep down in side that the Secret to Weight Loss is to eat less and get more excercise.

But we long deeply for a Silver Bullet that will allow us to maintain our slovely ways not have to excercise.

We all know that to even begin to understand The Secret of the Universe, we have to devote our lives to pursuing it.

But we would love to have it just presented to us on a platter so we can sit back down in front of the TV with another bag of Doritos.

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Uh… my wife just looked over my shoulder and said, “I wish my name was Gus.”

That’s crazy talk right there…

Not if she had to live through being called “Gus the bus the big fat pus!”

//Probably happened twice.

/

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep… about time to put the tie on!

re: #51 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #53 HoosierHoops

Don’t forget your pants!
Have a great day today

Don’t laugh. I have a friend who did just that (on purpose)

Years ago, we were checked in to a pretty swanky hotel
Went up to the roof bar one night. The elevator opened directly into the bar area. Friend was dressed properly, but sans tie. Maitre D’ wouldn’t let him in, said he needed the tie. Friend stated (and I quote)
“So all I need is a tie to get in here”
Maitre D” “Yes sir”
(you can see where this is headed)
Friend went down to his room, returned, and when the elevator doors opened, out he walks towards the bar with NOTHING on except a tie!

re: #55 ralphieboy

Not just math, but basic psychology:

We all know deep down in side that the Secret to Weight Loss is to eat less and get more excercise.

But we long deeply for a Silver Bullet that will allow us to maintain our slovely ways not have to excercise.

We all know that to even begin to understand The Secret of the Universe, we have to devote our lives to pursuing it.

But we would love to have it just presented to us on a platter so we can sit back down in front of the TV with another bag of Doritos.

Let me help you with that.
Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything (42)[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Memorial in Warsaw, Poland

Live CNN feed.

A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum

re: #57 sattv4u2

on my 21st birthday me and some buddies went to the Silverado Hotel in St. Helena for a beer tasting…36 beers from light to heavy..
as you can guess there was a long line for the bathroom that was really small.
I’m in there doing my business when my friend walked in…dude wait your turn. He said ’ I’m not here to pee’ What?
You’ll never forget this day as long as you live.. What?
So I’m washing my hands and he opens the door and goes running out the bathroom screaming like a little girl…
I opened the door and there is about 20 guys shocked staring at me…
Walking past them was one of the most embarrassing thing I have ever gone through.. I hit him when I got to the table…

re: #60 Gus 802

Not to forget the “missing verses”

She said, ‘I’m home on shore leave,’
though in truth we were at sea
so I took her by the looking glass
and forced her to agree
saying, ‘You must be the mermaid
who took Neptune for a ride.’
But she smiled at me so sadly
that my anger straightway died

If music be the food of love
then laughter is its queen
and likewise if behind is in front
then dirt in truth is clean
My mouth by then like cardboard
seemed to slip straight through my head
So we crash-dived straightway quickly
and attacked the ocean bed

Morning all.

re: #63 RogueOne

Morning all.

Morning!
What’s kick’n chick’n?

Lunchtime here. Chicken Fajitas…

re: #61 HoosierHoops

I don;t get it
!?!?!
You’re in the bathroom peeing
he comes in to NOT pee
you wash your hands

WhattamImissin!?!?!

re: #66 sattv4u2

I don;t get it
!?!?!
You’re in the bathroom peeing
he comes in to NOT pee
you wash your hands

WhattamImissin!?!?!

He runs past 20 guys screaming like a little girl from the bathroom….I had to walk past those guys.. Head down.. I wonder what they thought happened in the restroom..Embarrassing

re: #66 sattv4u2

I don;t get it
!?!?!
You’re in the bathroom peeing
he comes in to NOT pee
you wash your hands

WhattamImissin!?!?!

((NOTE ,,, I’ve been up for 20 straight hours,, the last 10 1/2 of those at work, so it’s probably me! ))

re: #67 HoosierHoops

He runs past 20 guys screaming like a little girl from the bathroom…I had to walk past those guys.. Head down.. I wonder what they thought happened in the restroom..Embarrassing

Oh ,, K ,, thanks

re: #48 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If you’re not a moderate, you are an extremist.
/

If you’re not a moderate you spend too much time lying to yourself.

Hoops, I “got” it the first time around!
That’s one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.
I’m sorry for your embarrassment.
But it really was funny.

re: #70 RogueOne

If you’re not a moderate you spend too much time lying to yourself.

Everyone thinks that THEY are a ‘moderate’, that their views are normal. Nobody walks around saying “yup,, I’m on the far (left/right) fringe!”

Now,, they may acknowledge that they have “A” conservative or liberal view on this topic or that subject, but overall we all beleive “we” are the mainstream

re: #72 sattv4u2

Everyone thinks that THEY are a ‘moderate’, that their views are normal. Nobody walks around saying “yup,, I’m on the far (left/right) fringe!”

Now,, they may acknowledge that they have “A” conservative or liberal view on this topic or that subject, but overall we all beleive “we” are the mainstream

Exactly. By refusing to consider your own bias, you’re basically lying to yourself.

re: #71 reine.de.tout

Hoops, I “got” it the first time around!
That’s one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.
I’m sorry for your embarrassment.
But it really was funny.

Our idea of entertaining ourselves as teenagers was for one of us to take off running through the mall, with the other pursuing, limping spastically and slurring “Give me mback my mwallet!”

We thought it was funny, but then again, we were *really* bored…

re: #73 RogueOne

Exactly. By refusing to consider your own bias, you’re basically lying to yourself.

I I do not speak with an accent…

re: #71 reine.de.tout

Hoops, I “got” it the first time around!
That’s one of the funniest things I’ve read in a long time.
I’m sorry for your embarrassment.
But it really was funny.

Sorry, Guess I was thrown by the huge amounts of people that were in the mens room. In that, how would the crowd in the bar equate the person running out like a screaming lil girl with someone walking out later after washing his hands!?!?

((I’ve been awake WAY too long trying to make sense out of a new equipment manual here at work, trying to interface it into our system))

re: #75 ralphieboy

I I do not speak with an accent…

Neither do I

But the voices in my head do!

I haven’t been online much the last couple of days and I”m catching up on my reading. Did everyone see the update to the PA school district spying on their students through their school issued laptops? It has spread from just one photo to thousands:

[Link: www.philly.com…]

The system that Lower Merion school officials used to track lost and stolen laptops wound up secretly capturing thousands of images, including photographs of students in their homes, Web sites they visited, and excerpts of their online chats, says a new motion filed in a suit against the district.

More than once, the motion asserts, the camera on Robbins’ school-issued laptop took photos of Robbins as he slept in his bed. Each time, it fired the images off to network servers at the school district.

Back at district offices, the Robbins motion says, employees with access to the images marveled at the tracking software. It was like a window into “a little LMSD soap opera,” a staffer is quoted as saying in an e-mail to Carol Cafiero, the administrator running the program.

“I know, I love it,” she is quoted as having replied.

Is HoosierHoops still around? I need my grandmother added to the prayer list (despite my oft-repeated aversive nature to prayer).

She’s arriving from the States tomorrow, 82 years old and dying of cancer. We’re about her only relatives left here and she’ll be staying in our house until she passes.

re: #79 laZardo

Is HoosierHoops still around? I need my grandmother added to the prayer list (despite my oft-repeated aversive nature to prayer).

She’s arriving from the States tomorrow, 82 years old and dying of cancer. We’re about her only relatives left here and she’ll be staying in our house until she passes.

I’m here bro..consider it done

re: #79 laZardo

Is HoosierHoops still around? I need my grandmother added to the prayer list (despite my oft-repeated aversive nature to prayer).

She’s arriving from the States tomorrow, 82 years old and dying of cancer. We’re about her only relatives left here and she’ll be staying in our house until she passes.

Good wishes to you, her and your family

Having you around at this time will be very comforting to her, I’m sure

re: #34 iceweasel

And so on. This is why they hate him. It isn’t as simple as ‘he’s black’.

I’m not actually disagreeing with you, but I don’t think it’s that complicated.

I think that there would be the same level of vitriolic, unreasoning hatred, the same rallies, the same secessionist talk, if the president were a white fiftysomething male from the South. In other words, even if he looked just like one of their team. The signs would be different, but the anger and fear would be the same. The fact that he is black and has a ‘liberal elite’ upbringing make it easier to stir up hatred, and allows ugly repressed racism to come to the surface, but in a sense, they’re right - the hatred in general has almost nothing to do with his race.

The hatred is there because they’re told to hate him. That’s really it. The Conservatives have been slavish followers of their media and thought leaders for some time now, and the primary ethos of the Conservative media is to hate and fear ‘liberals’, the ‘other side’. I always laugh when Conservatives (again, I capitalise Conservative to refer to the movement, not conservative people or principles) accuse their opponents of American-Idol political devotion, or unreasoning loyalty to a person instead of ideas, because there isn’t a movement more invested in cults of personality than the Conservative one.

The most important thing to the Conservative movement isn’t a set of policy positions, or a belief. Small government, fiscal conservatism, religious orthodoxy - these are nice things to talk about, and are catchphrases by which you gain entry to the clubhouse, but they aren’t actually the most important quality to Conservatives. The most important quality is how much you hate liberals, and/or how much liberals hate you. The most common praise of Sarah Palin I see is that ‘she makes liberals angry’. All a Conservative speaker has to do is show willingness to verbally assault liberals and he is guaranteed a welter of attention and praise, regardless of what he was talking about. As for policy, it doesn’t really matter how intelligent or stupid a position is - if liberals are for it, it must be bad, and vice versa. For years now, even during the height of the Bush-era War on Terror, I’ve seen many Conservatives proclaim that the real enemy is not terrorists, but liberals. It is a cult, stirred up by media personalities and a constant feed of misinformation and fantasy, based primarily on hating the ‘other team’, the ‘liberals’.

FBV said upthread something about really hating Bill Clinton at the time, and realising now that Clinton was in fact a moderate. He noted that he was a fan of Rush at the time. That’s the nature of the Conservative media - it pushes buttons, causes a visceral reaction, incites you to get emotionally involved. I was obliged to listen to Rush and Glenn Beck every workday for a few years at my old workplace. I’m a worldly, intelligent, open-minded guy who wasn’t inclined to agree, and even I found myself getting angry every day and having a visceral hatred of liberals. I talked to the guy I replaced once, and asked him how he was doing now that he didn’t have to hear Conservative talk radio every day. He said, ‘you know, I still sorta agree with it, but I’m a lot less angry now’. He was lucky. He was removed from the cult long enough to deprogram. It’s easy to see how someone plugged into the cult every day, who is already inclined to agree, then starts carrying signs and going to rallies, or worse.

It wouldn’t matter if the President were a white Southern Protestant who governed with small-government, free-market principles. As long as he is a member of the ‘other team’, the one the Conservative media is against, there will be this level of hatred.

re: #82 Renaissance_Man

I’m a worldly, intelligent, open-minded guy

And modest ,, don’t forget modest!!

//

re: #83 sattv4u2

I’m a worldly, intelligent, open-minded guy

And modest ,, don’t forget modest!!

//

Excessive modesty is my only flaw.

re: #76 sattv4u2

Sorry, Guess I was thrown by the huge amounts of people that were in the mens room. In that, how would the crowd in the bar equate the person running out like a screaming lil girl with someone walking out later after washing his hands!?!?

((I’ve been awake WAY too long trying to make sense out of a new equipment manual here at work, trying to interface it into our system))

It was those huge numbers of people OUTSIDE waiting to get in that made the storry funny!

I’m having trouble typing today, everyone please forgive me - upset a bit.

re: #79 laZardo

Is HoosierHoops still around? I need my grandmother added to the prayer list (despite my oft-repeated aversive nature to prayer).

She’s arriving from the States tomorrow, 82 years old and dying of cancer. We’re about her only relatives left here and she’ll be staying in our house until she passes.

{lazardo}
Very sorry for your family’s difficulties right now.
I’ll e-mail a link to your post to HH in case he’s not around right now.

re: #82 Renaissance_Man

If the rights hatred of the left is due to a “cult of personality” then to what do you attribute the lefts hatred of the right?

re: #82 Renaissance_Man

Wow!

re: #85 reine.de.tout

It was those huge numbers of people OUTSIDE waiting to get in that made the storry funny!

I’m having trouble typing today, everyone please forgive me - upset a bit.

That part I understood

What I didn’t get is how they equated the man running out with Hoosier.

UNLESS ,, the mens room was meant for a one-person-at-a-time deal

OTOH ,, upset? Anything we can do to help !?!?

re: #86 reine.de.tout

{lazardo}
Very sorry for your family’s difficulties right now.
I’ll e-mail a link to your post to HH in case he’s not around right now.

Thanks..I added his grandma to the prayer list

re: #89 sattv4u2

That part I understood

What I didn’t get is how they equated the man running out with Hoosier.

UNLESS ,, the mens room was meant for a one-person-at-a-time deal

OTOH ,, upset? Anything we can do to help !?!?

No, except forgive any typos or sentences that make no sense!

I’ll be fine.
But thanks.

re: #11 iceweasel

A little something-something for the “Obama gonna take mah guns!!1!” crowd…

Ariz. House approves concealed weapons bill

April 6th— I presume it’s been mentioned here, but this was the first I’d heard of it and it just popped up on memorandum.

I’m strongly in favor of “shall issue” concealed carry laws, but absolutely against permitless carry. It’s a huge responsibility, not to be taken lightly. In Texas, the proficiency requirements are laughable, and I think they ought to be much tougher.

Allowing any idiot to carry without demonstrating the ability to operate a firearm under stress and showing an understanding of the relevant laws is a really bad idea.

re: #92 negativ

I’m strongly in favor of “shall issue” concealed carry laws, but absolutely against permitless carry. It’s a huge responsibility, not to be taken lightly. In Texas, the proficiency requirements are laughable, and I think they ought to be much tougher.

Allowing any idiot to carry without demonstrating the ability to operate a firearm under stress and showing an understanding of the relevant laws is a really bad idea.

I used to play C&W music for a living in bars in Arizona. I was just thinking back about how I sorta miss it…but now I don’t. I don’t even wanna think of what could happen to those poor musicians who cannot play requests!

re: #91 reine.de.tout

No, except forgive any typos or sentences that make no sense!

I’ll be fine.
But thanks.

hell ,, ,if I asked for forgiveness for every on of my typos or sentences that make no sense, I would have to place a disclaimer on my profile!

re: #87 RogueOne

If the rights hatred of the left is due to a “cult of personality” then to what do you attribute the lefts hatred of the right?

There’s always going to be tribalism between sides - it’s how humans are. If you self-identify with one side in a conflict, disliking the other side is natural, even if it doesn’t make a ton of sense. The left and the right are often opposed, and a certain amount of splitting (‘we disagree, therefore they’re bad people’) is always going to happen. It’s not reasoned, no matter which side does it, but it happens.

However, what we see in the current political climate - blind, inchoate rage at policies that they would normally support, and/or at policies that don’t even exist - lies squarely at the foot of the Conservative cult.

re: #92 negativ

I’m strongly in favor of “shall issue” concealed carry laws, but absolutely against permitless carry. It’s a huge responsibility, not to be taken lightly. In Texas, the proficiency requirements are laughable, and I think they ought to be much tougher.

Allowing any idiot to carry without demonstrating the ability to operate a firearm under stress and showing an understanding of the relevant laws is a really bad idea.

Being able to operate a firearm under the stress of a situation is one of the huge keys to it.
Some law enforcement agencies (well, probably all of them) have rigorous training in that area. I’m sure there are places where civilians can get similar training.

re: #89 sattv4u2

That part I understood

What I didn’t get is how they equated the man running out with Hoosier.

UNLESS ,, the mens room was meant for a one-person-at-a-time deal

OTOH ,, upset? Anything we can do to help !?!?

Good Lawd Hoopster…I promise never to wake up and tell funny stories about my 21st birthday..Satt doesn’t get it or I can’t explain it..
LOL
Get some sleep Satt..You are punch drunk and I’m wide awake ready to rock the house..
*wink*

re: #94 sattv4u2

hell ,, ,if I asked for forgiveness for every on of my typos or sentences that make no sense, I would have to place a disclaimer on my profile!

Well, yes.
But then, my standard is higher!!
/ / / /
heavy sarc, I’m kidding! I’m kidding!

re: #93 ralphieboy

I used to play C&W music for a living in bars in Arizona. I was just thinking back about how I sorta miss it…but now I don’t. I don’t even wanna think of what could happen to those poor musicians who cannot play requests!

It could be worse.

There’s a reason nobody sings Frank Sinatra’s My Way in karaoke here.

re: #78 RogueOne

Good coverage of this story at Ars Technica:

Parents: school used webcam to spy on our kid at home

School backs off on laptop spying policy in wake of lawsuit

FBI, grand jury now probing high school’s webcam spying

“Spying” school agrees to preserve evidence in Laptopgate

School laptop spy case prompts Wiretap Act rethink

re: #95 Renaissance_Man

I thought you might be one of those I mentioned earlier, just wanted to make sure before jumping to conclusions.

re: #97 HoosierHoops

Good Lawd Hoopster…I promise never to wake up and tell funny stories about my 21st birthday..Satt doesn’t get it or I can’t explain it..
LOL
Get some sleep Satt..You are punch drunk and I’m wide awake ready to rock the house..
*wink*

Total of 18 hours sleep since 7 a.m Tuesday morning

re: #98 reine.de.tout

Well, yes.
But then, my standard is higher!!
/ / / /
heavy sarc, I’m kidding! I’m kidding!

hey , SOMEONE has to be at the bottom of the barrel! If it weren’t for the likes of me, you wouldn’t be able to gauge how high your standards ARE!!!

re: #100 negativ

Can you imagine? WTF were these people thinking? This is going to end up costing the district (the taxpayers) millions. I can’t believe not one of them thought “ya know, this could get us in deep shit”.

re: #100 negativ

Good coverage of this story at Ars Technica:

Parents: school used webcam to spy on our kid at home

School backs off on laptop spying policy in wake of lawsuit

FBI, grand jury now probing high school’s webcam spying

“Spying” school agrees to preserve evidence in Laptopgate

School laptop spy case prompts Wiretap Act rethink

Using a web cam to recover a laptop may be the stupidest thing known to man…First off..If you are going to give out laptops to students and have that kindof resource then expect lost and damaged and stolen laptops..
Who the hell gets free laptops in High School? Hello? IT?
Use EFS encryption on the Hard drive to protect the data and fucking call home if it is stolen..You guys do know a app can call home when connected to the Internet right? GPS baby…What the hell good does it to look at a web cam in some hotel room with the guys/girls face? Watching teens sleep? It’s kindof kinky..and wrong
Just sent the GPS details to the police… and recover the laptop…Web cams? Please…Folks..Some of you should do a laptop security start-up and get rich..There is a lot of dumb IT out there…
Laptop security..
Yup..There is an App for that

You know it’s gonna be a bad day when you get woken up by the phone and Maury Povich is on the other end and he tells you that you, are in fact, the baby’s daddy!!
/J/K, morning honcos!!

re: #105 HoosierHoops

Low Jack for Laptops.

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

Congratulations…?
Boy or girl ?

re: #108 reloadingisnotahobby

Congratulations…?
Boy or girl ?

ummm,, I believe Maury Povich is a boy!

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Low Jack for Laptops.

…For Lapjacking?
Sounds ..ah dirty! I like it!

re: #110 reloadingisnotahobby

…For Lapjacking?
Sounds ..ah dirty! I like it!

That might have kept my phone from ringing!!
/

re: #107 Cannadian Club Akbar

Low Jack for Laptops.

If I gave a shit I’d do a startup today to deploy laptop security..But look to the next 2 years.. I’d begin development of an iPad app to recover stolen iPads using GPS that I could trigger from my iphone and the thief couldn’t do a dang thing about it…It would trigger an email to the police with a link..
Think on-star for your iPad…

Good morning

I wish we had a Saturday Payer List. I would ask to be on it. I need about 5 things today from the store and they are all so different there is only 1 place to go to get all of them. Wal Mart. Sigh. I hate going there.

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wish we had a Saturday Payer List. I would ask to be on it. I need about 5 things today from the store and they are all so different there is only 1 place to go to get all of them. Wal Mart. Sigh. I hate going there.

Think of it as going to the circus!

re: #113 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning

Thats one opinion!

re: #112 HoosierHoops

If I gave a shit I’d do a startup today to deploy laptop security..But look to the next 2 years.. I’d begin development of an iPad app to recover stolen iPads using GPS that I could trigger from my iphone and the thief couldn’t do a dang thing about it…It would trigger an email to the police with a link..
Think on-star for your iPad…

We’re gonna be rich!! I mean you are. Heh.

re: #115 sattv4u2

Heh. They closed our local K Mart so sometimes we do go to Wally World. Gaah.

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar

We’re gonna be rich!! I mean you are. Heh.

Until someone figures out that you can turn the power off before you steal it.

re: #118 pingjockey

Heh. They closed our local K Mart so sometimes we do go to Wally World. Gaah.

Wal Mart is a mini United Nations. Just sayin’.

re: #103 sattv4u2

hey , SOMEONE has to be at the bottom of the barrel! If it weren’t for the likes of me, you wouldn’t be able to gauge how high your standards ARE!!!

LOL.
Made me laugh!

re: #119 negativ

Until someone figures out that you can turn the power off before you steal it.

Me thinks you give thieves to much “smart” credit. They aren’t exactly out of the “Thomas Crown Affair” movie.

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wal Mart is a mini United Nations Planets.

Just sayin’.

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar

We’re gonna be rich!! I mean you are. Heh.

$1.99 app to protect your iPad from being stolen?
Charles?
I’m a genius when I wake up..The problem is.. it all goes downhill from there.
There are some talented programmers on this board…I have some great ideas about phone apps for Napa Valley tourists…

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

I wish we had a Saturday Payer List. I would ask to be on it. I need about 5 things today from the store and they are all so different there is only 1 place to go to get all of them. Wal Mart. Sigh. I hate going there.

Take some pics!

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wal Mart is a mini United Nations. Just sayin’.

So is my house on weekends
My son and his friends camp out there most of them
To say my son has an eclectic circle of friends is putting it mildly

re: #123 laZardo

re: #125 reine.de.tout

GAH!! MY EYES!! They burn!!

re: #124 HoosierHoops

$1.99 app to protect your iPad from being stolen?
Charles?
I’m a genius when I wake up..The problem is.. it all goes downhill from there.
There are some talented programmers on this board…I have some great ideas about phone apps for Napa Valley tourists…

Heck, HH!
$1.99 app to LOCATE your iPhone, iPad, whatever.
If I want that now, I have to pay a yearly subscription of $99 for “mobile me”. I’d pay more than $1.99 for a locator.

re: #124 HoosierHoops

$1.99 app to protect your iPad from being stolen?
Charles?
I’m a genius when I wake up..The problem is.. it all goes downhill from there.
There are some talented programmers on this board…I have some great ideas about phone apps for Napa Valley tourists…

Also, PATRIOT ACT!!!111omgzorz

My list for Wal Mart:
spray nozzle for hose
chicken shears
work shoes
chlorine for pool
Carol King CD
Ugh.

re: #126 sattv4u2

That is cool.

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #125 reine.de.tout

GAH!! MY EYES!! They burn!!

OMG.
This person of Wal-mart …
Where I live there are lots of people with no taste whatsoever.
I actually worked with a woman who had pants similar to those (not quite as bare, but close), and thought those pants were OK TO WEAR TO WORK!

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

My list for Wal Mart:
spray nozzle for hose
chicken shears
work shoes
chlorine for pool
Carol King CD
Ugh.

Giving your chickens hair cuts today !?!?!

re: #128 reine.de.tout

Heck, HH!
$1.99 app to LOCATE your iPhone, iPad, whatever.
If I want that now, I have to pay a yearly subscription of $99 for “mobile me”. I’d pay more than $1.99 for a locator.

Log onto a website and with your password you can locate any home networked device ipad, iphone, laptop, via GPS and can send a link to the cops.
We need a app for that…
I have good tourists apps ideas….

re: #126 sattv4u2

So is my house on weekends
My son and his friends camp out there most of them
To say my son has an eclectic circle of friends is putting it mildly

Be glad they are at your house.
Not somewhere else.
Getting into trouble.

re: #133 sattv4u2

Giving your chickens hair cuts today !?!?!

Yes. Mohawks!!!
/

re: #131 pingjockey

That is cool.

Best part is, they are all great kids.

re: #135 reine.de.tout

Be glad they are at your house.
Not somewhere else.
Getting into trouble.

Yup ,, REAL glad ,,, (cept when they raid the fridge,,, I call them The Locusts)

re: #137 sattv4u2

Best part is, they are all great kids.

Of course they are!

re: #132 reine.de.tout

OMG.
This person of Wal-mart …
Where I live there are lots of people with no taste whatsoever.
I actually worked with a woman who had pants similar to those (not quite as bare, but close), and thought those pants were OK TO WEAR TO WORK!

You work at a strip club?

re: #123 laZardo

Mwahaha!

re: #140 compound idaho

You work at a strip club?

hahahaha!
Actually, NO, I don’t, that’s what made it particularly awful!

GE: 7,000 tax returns, $0 U.S. tax bill

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — General Electric filed more than 7,000 income tax returns in hundreds of global jurisdictions last year, but when push came to shove, the company owed the U.S. government a whopping bill of $0.

How’d it pull off that trick? By losing lots of money.

GE had plenty of earnings last year — just not in the United States. For tax purposes, the company’s U.S. operations lost $408 million, while its international businesses netted a $10.8 billion profit.

That left GE (GE, Fortune 500) with no U.S. profit left for Uncle Sam to tax. Corporations typically face a 35% federal income tax on their earnings. Thanks to its deductions and adjustments, GE reported an actual U.S. federal income tax rate of negative 10.5%. It got to add a “tax benefit” of $1.1 billion back into its reported earnings.

re: #134 HoosierHoops

Log onto a website and with your password you can locate any home networked device ipad, iphone, laptop, via GPS and can send a link to the cops.
We need a app for that…
I have good tourists apps ideas…

If you could make the tourist app a temporary thing and a one time purchase for those who travel, that would be cool. They could add/drop as needed (NY, then San Fran, then Miami, etc)

re: #138 sattv4u2
My 16 year old and his bunch were the Mongol Horde. I swear teenage boys can absolutely decimate and trash a kitchen in less than an hour!

re: #138 sattv4u2

re: #145 pingjockey

2 words: Pizza Rolls!! Now on sale at your local Wal Mart!!!

re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #145 pingjockey

2 words: Pizza Rolls!! Now on sale at your local Wal Mart!!!

For The Locusts, the rolls would have to be the size of bales of hay!!

K kiddies ,,, heading home. will BBL

re: #145 pingjockey

My 16 year old and his bunch were the Mongol Horde. I swear teenage boys can absolutely decimate and trash a kitchen in less than an hour!

I have 3 brothers - I don’t know how my mom ever managed to keep food in the house.

re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #147 sattv4u2
Yah. Costco for the giant 10lb bags of fodder for them!

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

My list for Wal Mart:
spray nozzle for hose
chicken shears
work shoes
chlorine for pool
Carol King CD
Ugh.

I have the pool stuff ready but it’s not time for the pool to open..Crap this is Indiana..In the last 2 weeks we have had 2 of the hottest days in all recorded history..Then it dropped 50 degrees and who knows it may snow next week.
Our Mal-mart has a section of home made Amish food. It’s always worth going to Wal-Mart buy their food..I swear that can cook like nobodies business…I want to marry a Amish woman
/

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

GE: 7,000 tax returns, $0 U.S. tax bill

Isn’t an adviser in the current administration a big Whig at GE?

re: #92 negativ

Allowing any idiot to carry without demonstrating the ability to operate a firearm under stress and showing an understanding of the relevant laws is a really bad idea.

I’ve been saying this for ages.

I don’t mind guns. Grew up around them, since there are plenty of hunters, sportsmen and law enforcement among my relatives. That’s just how it’s always been. Even though I’m liberal, I don’t want to ban guns or heavily restrict them, what with the Second Amendment and all.

That said, I REALLY wish that before any gun permits were issued, gun safety classes and documented time at a shooting range were required. If you can’t properly clean, load, store, or maintain a gun, and if you don’t have time and training on a range learning how to shoot, particularly under stress, you have no business carrying a gun around or getting a concealed carry permit for one. Period.

re: #149 reine.de.tout
I have 2 younger bros, but I am 4 yrs older than the next youngest so mom didn’t get all 3 of us as teenagers at once! My oldest 2 boys on the other hand were only 2 years apart, so we’d have the oldests friends here and then the youngers would show up! I counted one day, 11 teenage boys in the back yard.

re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar

If you could make the tourist app a temporary thing and a one time purchase for those who travel, that would be cool. They could add/drop as needed (NY, then San Fran, then Miami, etc)

excellent idea…
We need a lizard programming group off-line..Charles could be the CIO

re: #151 HoosierHoops

I have the pool stuff ready but it’s not time for the pool to open..Crap this is Indiana..In the last 2 weeks we have had 2 of the hottest days in all recorded history..Then it dropped 50 degrees and who knows it may snow next week.
Our Mal-mart has a section of home made Amish food. It’s always worth going to Wal-Mart buy their food..I swear that can cook like nobodies business…I want to marry a Amish woman
/

She would make you change you nic to HoosierHoopsAbe!!
/

re: #155 HoosierHoops

excellent idea…
We need a lizard programming group off-line..Charles could be the CIO

We need a class so I can learn what CIO means.:)

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need a class so I can learn what CIO means.:)

Chief Information Officer
Standard term..

re: #153 Lidane
Upding. I have no issue with allowing conceal carry, but I want said carrier to have been to class and the damn range before they get to tote a weapon around.

re: #159 pingjockey

Upding. I have no issue with allowing conceal carry, but I want said carrier to have been to class and the damn range before they get to tote a weapon around.

Hey, that’s like telling us we need to pass a spelling test before we can go excercise our First Amendment rights…

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Chief Information Officer
Standard term..

Let’s do it. I am good at the brainstorm (or some call me April shower) thingy!!

re: #152 Cannadian Club Akbar

Isn’t an adviser in the currentevery administration a big Whig at GE?

Yes.

re: #160 ralphieboy
Heh. Well no one is going to get killed with a misspelled sign. They’ll look stupid but it won’t wound anyone. Well, maybe their dignity.

re: #163 pingjockey

Heh. Well no one is going to get killed with a misspelled sign. They’ll look stupid but it won’t wound anyone. Well, maybe their dignity.

And here’s their sign.

/I found Bill Engvall funny. I’m sorry.

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let’s do it. I am good at the brainstorm (or some call me April shower) thingy!!

I think it’s a great idea..I’ll get with Charles and see if we can’t put some talent together from the board and write some iPad apps…Security Apps..Tourism apps..We could brainstorm some stuff..And you know..get rich too..From a cookbook to technology..What do you think Reine?

re: #164 laZardo
I like Bill too!

re: #127 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #125 reine.de.tout

GAH!! MY EYES!! They burn!!

uh, wow.

[Link: www.peopleofwalmart.com…]

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Plus, when you have many people thinking about stuff, person 1 thinks about A, person 2 thinks about B, person 3 thinks about C, and then you collectively come up with D.

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Plus, when you have many people thinking about stuff, person 1 thinks about A, person 2 thinks about B, person 3 thinks about C, and then you collectively come up with D.

Hence, COMMUNISM.

/ O8

Good Morning LGF.

re: #167 negativ

uh, wow.

[Link: www.peopleofwalmart.com…]

STOP IT!!! heh.

re: #163 pingjockey

Heh. Well no one is going to get killed with a misspelled sign. They’ll look stupid but it won’t wound anyone. Well, maybe their dignity.

I don’t know. 8 years ago we were told those who were exercising their first amendment rights were “helping the enemy” and now we’re told it’s a form of racism and a threat to the democracy. The 1st amendment sounds scary, there should be class.

re: #169 laZardo

Hence, COMMUNISM.

/ O8

nope, that’s capitalism, Communism is when one thinks about A and tells the other 3 to also think about A, usually at gun-point.

Good morning, LGF The Cavaliers are going to win the championship.

that is all.

re: #174 Aceofwhat?

Good morning, LGF The Cavaliers are going to win the championship.

that is all.

As will the Rays. But I already made that call.

re: #172 RogueOne

Aha. I get you now. That Bill of Rights can be a pesky thing to some people.

re: #165 HoosierHoops

I think it’s a great idea..I’ll get with Charles and see if we can’t put some talent together from the board and write some iPad apps…Security Apps..Tourism apps..We could brainstorm some stuff..And you know..get rich too..From a cookbook to technology..What do you think Reine?

Sounds great to me!

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Plus, when you have many people thinking about stuff, person 1 thinks about A, person 2 thinks about B, person 3 thinks about C, and then you collectively come up with D.

My first programming idea i wrote in VB5 was a computer program that allowed you to do a Hot air Balloon tour of Napa Valley with real time video that allowed you to control the balloon and travel all over the Valley..
The kicker was you could decent on any winery and take a virtual tour and order wine on-line…And then climb into the balloon and arise over the valley and visit to next winery..
There were a lot of issues embedding real time video in VB5 at that time..I suppose that would be a candidate for a web site today..With sponsorship with all the wineries in Napa for people to visit in a unique way

re: #172 RogueOne

I don’t know. 8 years ago we were told those who were exercising their first amendment rights were “helping the enemy” and now we’re told it’s a form of racism and a threat to the democracy. The 1st amendment sounds scary, there should be class.

No. 8 years ago it was patriotic to question the administration.

re: #178 HoosierHoops

My first programming idea i wrote in VB5 was a computer program that allowed you to do a Hot air Balloon tour of Napa Valley with real time video that allowed you to control the balloon and travel all over the Valley..
The kicker was you could decent on any winery and take a virtual tour and order wine on-line…And then climb into the balloon and arise over the valley and visit to next winery..
There were a lot of issues embedding real time video in VB5 at that time..I suppose that would be a candidate for a web site today..With sponsorship with all the wineries in Napa for people to visit in a unique way

IIRC, you can order wine to be shipped to you these days.

re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar

As will the Rays. But I already made that call.

I’m all for it. Whatever gets us through the numbing baseball season into college football season…

re: #181 Aceofwhat?
Was listening to AM sports radio Friday. Rumor control had it that the Steelers may try to shop Rothlesberger! I don’t know. The man has won 2 super bowls.

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

What about Exxon avoiding paying income taxes in the United States?

ExxonMobil paid more income taxes than any other U.S. company last year, some $15 billion, or 47% of pretax earnings.
Exxon tries to limit the tax pain with the help of 20 wholly owned subsidiaries domiciled in the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands that (legally) shelter the cash flow from operations in the likes of Angola, Azerbaijan and Abu Dhabi. No wonder that of $15 billion in income taxes last year, Exxon paid none of it to Uncle Sam, and has tens of billions in earnings permanently reinvested overseas.

BRB. Gotta make a breakfast sammie for my brothers GF.

re: #183 Reginald Perrin

What about Exxon avoiding paying income taxes in the United States?

What’s good for Exxon is good for America. Ergo: paying no taxes is good for America! The Tea Party thesis verified!!!

re: #179 Cannadian Club Akbar

No. 8 years ago it was patriotic to question the administration.

Only with those not in power, the others were all saying the 1st amendment was problematic. Ashcroft said it was “aiding the enemy”, the ACLU was all upset. I haven’t looked yet to see how they responded to Pres. Clinton’s speech yesterday but I’m sure they’re outraged.

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Plus, when you have many people thinking about stuff, person 1 thinks about A, person 2 thinks about B, person 3 thinks about C, and then you collectively come up with D.

Linus’ Law: Given enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow.

re: #182 pingjockey

Was listening to AM sports radio Friday. Rumor control had it that the Steelers may try to shop Rothlesberger! I don’t know. The man has won 2 super bowls.

2 games out…They will not trade him and his large penis.
Hey Folks…
This is the first day of the NBA playoffs!
Last year when the Lakers Won I was so despondent That I posted here that I was sure Charles was downtown at the victory parade drinking a beer and laughing at me…Charles is so mean…
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re: #188 HoosierHoops

No way they get rid of him. Fans are willing to forgive a lot of crap as long as a guy is a winner.

re: #188 HoosierHoops
The west looks tougher than hell. Cleveland should win the east and the championship. However, LeBrons’ supporting cast has to step up.

re: #189 RogueOne

No way they get rid of him. Fans are willing to forgive a lot of crap as long as a guy is a winner.

guy is a major douchebag, though. the undisputed parts of what happened are repugnant.

re: #190 pingjockey

The west looks tougher than hell. Cleveland should win the east and the championship. However, LeBrons’ supporting cast has to step up.

They looked good against the Lakers during the season…if they get there, it’s Cleveland’s series to lose.

Limbaugh blames lefties for right wing extremism….

Rush Limbaugh, Bill Clinton Square Off: Who’s Encouraging Domestic Terror?

…. Limbaugh said Clinton and the Obama “regime” are the ones that have “set the stage for violence.”

“Bill Clinton … just gave the kooks out there an excuse to be violent,” Limbaugh told radio listeners today. “He just offered them an opportunity to be violent.”

re: #188 HoosierHoops

2 games out…They will not trade him and his large penis.
Hey Folks…
This is the first day of the NBA playoffs!
Last year when the Lakers Won I was so despondent That I posted here that I was sure Charles was downtown at the victory parade drinking a beer and laughing at me…Charles is so mean…
/

uh-oh…now i’m questioning my membership here…i dislike associating with Lakers fans;)

re: #193 Killgore Trout
I was listening to that yesterday. Kooks don’t need an excuse to be violent.

re: #190 pingjockey

The west looks tougher than hell. Cleveland should win the east and the championship. However, LeBrons’ supporting cast has to step up.

Lakers vs. Cavs
A dream matchup for the World…
Did I not say here a year ago that Kobe’s knees are getting old? After a 1000 games a man just doesn’t have lift any more…I think the black mamba is the greatest player I have ever seen in person..I never saw Magic or Bird live…I saw Nash once at Reggie Miller’s retirement game and was just blown away by his passing and speed…Dude was fast with a big F
I have hated the Lakers my whole life..I’m a NorCal guy..But Kobe is a beautiful athlete and I never want his knees to go away…But they will..Sad

re: #192 Aceofwhat?
I would agree. I think zen master Phil may have his work cut out motivating the lakers.

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re: #196 HoosierHoops
My dad told me when I got diagnosed with the carcinoma I had..Gettin’ old ain’t for weaklings!

re: #196 HoosierHoops

you gotta see LeBron live. no one that tall and that big should ever be able to move that fast. he’s a walking mockery of the laws of physics.

re: #195 pingjockey

I was listening to that yesterday. Kooks don’t need an excuse to be violent.

They don’t need an excuse but there’s no need to encourage them.

re: #201 Killgore Trout
There is that. Not that they need any encouragement!

re: #200 Aceofwhat?

you gotta see LeBron live. no one that tall and that big should ever be able to move that fast. he’s a walking mockery of the laws of physics.

I have never seen the King live..Which sucks..I’ve been following him since ESPN broadcast his High School games….
He isn’t as skilled a shooter as Kobe…
Kobe is an assassin ..
Crunch time James sometimes is lebrick

re: #186 RogueOne

Only with those not in power, the others were all saying the 1st amendment was problematic. Ashcroft said it was “aiding the enemy”, the ACLU was all upset. I haven’t looked yet to see how they responded to Pres. Clinton’s speech yesterday but I’m sure they’re outraged.

Criticism of the administration or the military in time of war is always potentially problematic, especially for the administration.
That is why wars are often used by unscrupulous politicians to avoid or stifle criticism, especially in countries with weak constitutional liberties.
A cynic might argue that this partly explains why there are so many wars in the world.

Obama sez…..
Weekly Address: Holding Wall Street Accountable

This one’s worth watching. He’s on the attack.

re: #203 HoosierHoops

I have never seen the King live..Which sucks..I’ve been following him since ESPN broadcast his High School games…
He isn’t as skilled a shooter as Kobe…
Kobe is an assassin ..
Crunch time James sometimes is lebrick

agree with all of that. which is why when James is successful in crunch time, he’s taking 250lbs to the rack. no one finishes better.

you gotta see him, though…it’s worth whatever ticket price you have to pay, at least once.

re: #195 pingjockey

I was listening to that yesterday. Kooks don’t need an excuse to be violent.

I haven’t read anything about tea partiers being violent. The usual suspects are the only one I have read being violent and getting arrested….SEIU, anarchists, etc. If you have some links to violence at tea parties caused by the tea partiers themselves I would like to see that.

re: #193 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh blames lefties for right wing extremism…

Rush Limbaugh, Bill Clinton Square Off: Who’s Encouraging Domestic Terror?

FTA:

Clinton said that there were three big lessons from the Oklahoma City bombing: living in a time of change and adversity is difficult, so be sensitive; people can’t let the debate veer so far into hatred that they lose their humanity; and it’s always a mistake to bet against America.

He forgot #4: Don’t let the ATF set fire to a religious compound and kill 76 people including 20 kids.

Actually, that should be lesson #1.

re: #205 Killgore Trout

Obama sez…
Weekly Address: Holding Wall Street Accountable

[Video]This one’s worth watching. He’s on the attack.

It would be nice to see him show that same viciousness toward our enemies like Iran, Venezuela, & North Korea.

Gotta go to work…later lizards.

re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
This wasn’t about the tea parties(I thought) Billy Jeff was going off again about right wing radio and it agitating people. Rush came out and said that Klintoons speech would give the uber extremists an excuse for violence. AFAIK, only the ugly uproar on Cap. Hill has approached any kind of violence.

re: #208 RogueOne

He forgot #4: Don’t let the ATF set fire to a religious compound and kill 76 people including 20 kids.

Actually, that should be lesson #1.

The Branch Dividians set the fire and killed their own children you fucking historical revisionist piece of shit. Spreading lies like this is exactly what motivates people like Tim Mcvey.

re: #212 Killgore Trout
That whole frakkin’ mess and Ruby Ridge Idaho could’ve been handled so much better. You’re right though, the ATF didn’t set any fires.

Today seems like a “first beer at noon” day.:)

re: #212 Killgore Trout

There would not have been a fire if not for an unnecessary escalation and invasion by the ATF. The government bungled the Branch Davidian episode from the beginning and instead of learning their lesson they continue with their mistaken tactics on an almost daily basis. That’s what pissed off McVeigh, not talk radio.

re: #213 pingjockey

That whole frakkin’ mess and Ruby Ridge Idaho could’ve been handled so much better. You’re right though, the ATF didn’t set any fires.

These are difficult situations and mistakes are made.

re: #216 Killgore Trout
Yep. However, in both cases the suspects were contained and not going anywhere. I would think both the FBI and ATF use both cases as a lesson learned in training scenarios.

Later folks. Off to take a civil service exam(on a Saturday!).

re: #217 pingjockey

Yep. However, in both cases the suspects were contained and not going anywhere. I would think both the FBI and ATF use both cases as a lesson learned in training scenarios.

They had the chance to catch him while he was jogging..They messed up..People forget that detail.
We learned hard lessons

re: #167 negativ

uh, wow.

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Ha ha. Thems some funny har har pants. Thanks for a good morning giggle.

re: #218 pingjockey

Later folks. Off to take a civil service exam(on a Saturday!).

Good luck!

re: #212 Killgore Trout

The Branch Dividians set the fire and killed their own children you fucking historical revisionist piece of shit. Spreading lies like this is exactly what motivates people like Tim Mcvey.

That is true, but it’s really hard to look at what happened and come away thinking the ATF and FBI handled it even slightly competently. However, that doesn’t excuse (particularly) G. Gordon Liddy and Alex Jones going on the air and ranting about how the Feds were mass-murdering sociopaths who planned it that way all along.

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. Of course, any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

re: #217 pingjockey

Yep. However, in both cases the suspects were contained and not going anywhere. I would think both the FBI and ATF use both cases as a lesson learned in training scenarios.

You would think but instead they’ve passed those tactics down to the local level where it’s stressed that the appropriate way to go is with as much force as possible. That’s why you have local SWAT teams serving warrants for non-violent offenses and hick towns with military APC’s. The militarization of the police has gotten worse, not better.

re: #223 RogueOne

You would think but instead they’ve passed those tactics down to the local level where it’s stressed that the appropriate way to go is with as much force as possible. That’s why you have local SWAT teams serving warrants for non-violent offenses and hick towns with military APC’s. The militarization of the police has gotten worse, not better.

Remember Ilan Gonzales? From what I understand, that kind of force isn’t unusual to remove illegal immigrants, although, it happens more often in the Haitian community here.

I don’t know how I feel about all of it. Certainly Koresh was suspected of child abuse, rape and stockpiling weapons, yes? I don’t know the whole story about the family in Ruby Ridge. I know they were neo-Nazi “survivalists”, but I don’t know why the government felt they were such a threat. Stockpiling weapons? Certainly that would be a reason for the government to want to apprehend these people.

re: #222 negativ

That is true, but it’s really hard to look at what happened and come away thinking the ATF and FBI handled it even slightly competently. However, that doesn’t excuse (particularly) G. Gordon Liddy and Alex Jones going on the air and ranting about how the Feds were mass-murdering sociopaths who planned it that way all along.

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. Of course, any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

True, but it would have helped keep the conspiracy theorizing down had the government not withheld evidence during the following investigations. The government instigated the tragedy so shortly after Ruby Ridge, withheld evidence, and then acted surprised when people thought they might be lying.

Again, Killgore, that’s what set of McVeigh not talk radio.

Gonna play me some Liberty City Episodes. Nighty.

Tea Party speech goes too far….

He preaches revolution. The crowd is fine. He preaches violence. The crowd is fine. Only when he has the audacity to insult Palin and the crown turns on him.

re: #205 Killgore Trout

Obama sez…
Weekly Address: Holding Wall Street Accountable

[Video]

This one’s worth watching. He’s on the attack.

Too bad that the fundamental problem, namely that the government itself forced FM and FM to lend mortgage money to greedy, dishonest and wilfully stupid people who were grossly uncreditworthy, doesn’t even merit an honourable mention.

re: #224 marjoriemoon

Remember Ilan Gonzales? From what I understand, that kind of force isn’t unusual to remove illegal immigrants, although, it happens more often in the Haitian community here.

I don’t know how I feel about all of it. Certainly Koresh was suspected of child abuse, rape and stockpiling weapons, yes? I don’t know the whole story about the family in Ruby Ridge. I know they were neo-Nazi “survivalists”, but I don’t know why the government felt they were such a threat. Stockpiling weapons? Certainly that would be a reason for the government to want to apprehend these people.

I agree. I understand that there are real ticking-bomb nuts out there, like McVeigh, but when the government is the one poking them with a stick they aren’t allowed to pass the buck when one of them goes off.

re: #225 RogueOne

Revisionist asshole..

re: #225 RogueOne

True, but it would have helped keep the conspiracy theorizing down had the government not withheld evidence during the following investigations. The government instigated the tragedy so shortly after Ruby Ridge, withheld evidence, and then acted surprised when people thought they might be lying.

Again, Killgore, that’s what set of McVeigh not talk radio.

That is true, but I also don’t think we had the level of hyperbole then that we do now. And it isn’t just talk show radio. It’s the politicians like Bachman who fuel the fire.

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Revisionist asshole..

If altering history and McVeighs own stated purpose and timing helps you sleep at night, knock yourself out.

re: #231 marjoriemoon

That is true, but I also don’t think we had the level of hyperbole then that we do now. And it isn’t just talk show radio. It’s the politicians like Bachman who fuel the fire.

That argument only works if you believe that things like listening to heavy metal lead to worshiping satan. I’ll agree it’s absolutely part of the issue but not the dominate one.

re: #229 RogueOne

I agree. I understand that there are real ticking-bomb nuts out there, like McVeigh, but when the government is the one poking them with a stick they aren’t allowed to pass the buck when one of them goes off.

I don’t know if I’d call it stick poking. The standoff in Waco was almost 2 months I think. They could have given up. I don’t know. It’s all very complicated.

re: #233 RogueOne

That argument only works if you believe that things like listening to heavy metal lead to worshiping satan. I’ll agree it’s absolutely part of the issue but not the dominate one.

But as I recall, Ozzy Ozbourne fans weren’t going to concerts with guns, you know what I’m saying?

I’m outta here.
Latter.

re: #235 marjoriemoon

But as I recall, Ozzy Ozbourne fans weren’t going to concerts with guns, you know what I’m saying?

I’ve seen Ozzy 4 times. Once, saw a guy on all fours, puking. Then fell face first into it. Was funny.

I thought McVeigh before and during the trial didn’t really talk in detail about his reasons. That’s why the drill down of his 30 hours of pre-execution interviews that’s being broadcast on Monday is a semi-big deal for people who are interested in his ‘own words’ so to speak.

re: #182 pingjockey

Was listening to AM sports radio Friday. Rumor control had it that the Steelers may try to shop Rothlesberger! I don’t know. The man has won 2 super bowls.

And he’s in the running to be Slick Willy Jr. Sooner or later the guy’s going to find out what the grey bar hilton is like from the inside & the Steeler’s really don’t want to be around for that. Plus public sentiment in Steeler land is really against him. It’s almost as bad as Mark Chmura’s fiasco in Green Bay.

William

The other question is whether you get to form your own religion and abuse women and children in the process. What was that compound in Texas with the FDLS? Jefferies? Similar to Waco in that regard. I think the government has to stop it. Actually, the FDLS raid went without casualty, yes?

I always thought forming my own religion would be pretty cool. But I think Moonies are taken. Maybe The Madges. We pray to blue liquid. You’re soaking in it!

re: #237 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’ve seen Ozzy 4 times. Once, saw a guy on all fours, puking. Then fell face first into it. Was funny.

Couple joints - $10
12 pack of Bud - $6
Tickets - $100
Getting down on all fours, puking and falling into it - priceless

lol

re: #241 marjoriemoon

Very nice!! Ding!!

re: #238 Jadespring

I thought McVeigh before and during the trial didn’t really talk in detail about his reasons. That’s why the drill down of his 30 hours of pre-execution interviews that’s being broadcast on Monday is a semi-big deal for people who are interested in his ‘own words’ so to speak.

No, it was even the governments argument of his motive when they prosecuted him, plus the bombing in OKC was on the anniversary of the Waco fire.

re: #241 marjoriemoon

Couple joints - $10
12 pack of Bud - $6
Tickets - $100
Getting down on all fours, puking and falling into it - priceless

lol

I saw Rush (many times actually) and a guy hit the ground, convulsing. People were stealing bandannas off of his legs.

re: #243 RogueOne

No, it was even the governments argument of his motive when they prosecuted him, plus the bombing in OKC was on the anniversary of the Waco fire.

Which, BTW, is monday. April 19th, what a crappy day.

re: #245 RogueOne

Which, BTW, is monday. April 19th, what a crappy day.

The day after isn’t much better, IIRC.