Teabag Racism Watch

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Here we go again with Dale Robertson, the founder of teaparty.org who was photographed with a misspelled racist sign at a teabag protest in Houston.

Robertson made the Hatewatch page of the Southern Poverty Law Center today after he sent out a mass email attacking President Obama for traveling home to Chicago for Memorial Day: TeaParty.org Founder Labels Obama With Racial Terms.

Obama is going home to spend time with “his homies in the Chicago hood,” writes Robertson, who is white. The taxpayers will be footing the bill for the president to “bump and grind in the hood.” While he’s gone, Vice President Joseph Biden and his wife “will step into Obama’s sneakers” to lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Obama, meanwhile, will be “shooting hoops, smoking cigarettes and goofing-off with his homies.”

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861 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:53:03pm

Could be worse, he could have gone on to talk about how Obama was “pimpin” the nation….

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:54:25pm

I’m very fucking proud of me, BTW… There’s a Facebook copy and paste thingy

Refers to the “Du Jour Gate”… refers to the White House as the “black house”. I flipping wailed on my “friend” who posted it.

He deleted the post, and cleaned it up with facts.

I am just one conservative. But, we are all starting to stand against the bullshit.

I would’ve ripped the sign out of that assholes hands and tore it up.

3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:55:04pm

Now? I go drinking. Have fun y’all!

4 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:55:53pm

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I would’ve ripped the sign out of that assholes asshole’s hands and tore it up.

We need to be better than them, FBV.

5 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:56:42pm

re: #2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I’m very fucking proud of me, BTW… There’s a Facebook copy and paste thingy

Refers to the “Du Jour Gate”… refers to the White House as the “black house”. I flipping wailed on my “friend” who posted it.

He deleted the post, and cleaned it up with facts.

I am just one conservative. But, we are all starting to stand against the bullshit.

I would’ve ripped the sign out of that assholes hands and tore it up.

You sir are as an inspiration to your fellow Republicans.

Or at least you SHOULD be an inspiration to your fellow Republicans.

6 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:56:50pm

The election of B.H. Obama was like a surgeon’s lancet piercing a puss-infested wound in American society, allowing all the pathogens and waste to run out and be seen by all.

7 Lidane  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:57:16pm

Stay classy, Dale. Also, here’s some Chicago-based music for ya:

Youtube Video
8 webevintage  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:57:31pm

re: #6 freetoken

The election of B.H. Obama was like a surgeon’s lancet piercing a puss-infested wound in American society, allowing all the pathogens and waste to run out and be seen by all.

Indeed.

9 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:57:47pm
Quotation: “I have nothing but contempt for anyone who can spell a word only one way.”

Variations:

1. “You should never trust a man who has only one way to spell a word.”
2. “Pity the man who can spell a word only one way.”
3. “I never met a man so narrow that he can spell a word in only one way.”

[Link: wiki.monticello.org…]

Spelling is not an issue, IMO. The racism definitely is, however.

10 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:59:15pm

re: #3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now? I go drinking. Have fun y’all!

Enjoy your friday evening and ‘stay safe.’

11 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:59:22pm

I’m starting to think that everything this man knows about African Americans came from Good Times.

12 Reginald Perrin  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:59:28pm
“shooting hoops, smoking cigarettes and goofing-off with his homies.”

Why can’t the Kenyan spend the weekend doing American stuff like cutting brush and riding a mountain bike?
///

13 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 5:59:29pm

re: #6 freetoken

The election of B.H. Obama was like a surgeon’s lancet piercing a puss-infested wound in American society, allowing all the pathogens and waste to run out and be seen by all.

oooff!…close enough, so much has been exposed, now where does it take them?….scary thought

14 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:00:20pm

re: #11 JasonA

I’m starting to think that everything this man knows about African Americans came from Good Times.

I was thinking the lingo to be a bit dated…

15 alexknyc  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:00:22pm

I’d prefer that Obama spend Memorial Day laying a wreath at Arlington but I’d also prefer that some of the other people who disapprove of his choice not to do so leave their racism out of it.

16 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:00:50pm

re: #14 brookly red

I was thinking the lingo to be a bit dated…

Dynomite!

17 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:02:33pm

In b4 someone claims they’re “just tax protesters”

18 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:03:27pm

re: #16 JasonA

Dynomite!

although “hood” & “the/da hood” are pretty mainstream as is “homie” a term I have used to rib Walter.

19 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:04:45pm

“shooting hoops, smoking cigarettes and goofing-off with his homies.”

He forgot “long legged mack daddy”. Teabaggers are not what they once were.


////

(my first sarc tag - take it easy)

20 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:04:48pm

Homies, shooting hoops, bump and grind in the hood… Dale Robertson spoils all the dogwhistles his more subtle buddies like to use.

21 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:06:36pm

re: #19 Linden Arden

Yeah, just think… this is what these people say in public!

22 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:07:57pm

re: #7 Lidane

More Chicago-based music…Umphrey’s McGee

Youtube Video
23 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:11:31pm

more Chicago based music

Youtube Video
24 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:11:35pm

re: #21 JasonA

Yeah, just think… this is what these people say in public!

well really this read more like a SNL skit then anything else… OK in poor taste but really not all that offensive in my inner city-living opinion.

25 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:13:12pm

re: #24 brookly red

well really this read more like a SNL skit then anything else… OK in poor taste but really not all that offensive in my inner city-living opinion.

Yeah, but you’re not a spokesman for a branch of a political movement, either.

26 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:13:36pm

re: #17 WindUpBird

In before “Leftist Infiltrators?”


PS: You should come up tonight at 8 and watch us play descent.

27 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:14:26pm

Dale, you ignorant slut.

28 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:14:38pm

re: #26 windsagio

In before “Leftist Infiltrators?”

PS: You should come up tonight at 8 and watch us play descent.

I’m gonna!

yeah, leftist infiltrator types tend to get banned here, dont they? :D

29 sagehen  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:15:03pm

well if we’re gonna chicago…

Youtube Video
30 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:15:34pm

re: #28 WindUpBird

>>

31 compound idaho  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:16:02pm

re: #19 Linden Arden

“shooting hoops, smoking cigarettes and goofing-off with his homies.”

He forgot “long legged mack daddy”. Teabaggers are not what they once were.


///

(my first sarc tag - take it easy)

My sister went to the University of Chicago. She and a friend were on the train home late one evening. A nice black gentleman came up and pointed out to them that perhaps they had missed their stop and should get off and head back north at the next station.

Racist? I think not. Good man looking out for a lost young white girl from Idaho. Happy and sad story all at the same time.

32 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:16:39pm

re: #26 windsagio

In before “Leftist Infiltrators?”

PS: You should come up tonight at 8 and watch us play descent.

To me, descent (computer game) was addicting. I could easily spend hours on a daily basis.

33 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:16:56pm

Slightly on topic - has anyone else noticed how crazies talk about Secularism like its a BAD thing?

To me its a Constitutional objective.

34 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:17:23pm

re: #32 Semper Fi

So much love for that title >>

Freespace (both of them) was/were the best space shooters ever.

35 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:17:44pm

re: #25 JasonA

Yeah, but you’re not a spokesman for a branch of a political movement, either.

true & so? I mean is it any more racial then when Obama said “I don’t look like them”? It was in poor taste but I don’t feel the need to be outraged.

36 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:18:21pm

re: #35 brookly red

true & so? I mean is it any more racial then when Obama said “I don’t look like them”? It was in poor taste but I don’t feel the need to be outraged.

Taken in context with the sign?

37 Charles Johnson  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:18:49pm

I’ll probably get email from outraged tea party people saying Dale Robertson doesn’t represent them.

So why is Robertson one of the Teabag Go-To guys for the Washington Times? Maybe you should complain to whoever’s promoting Robertson as your spokesman. Because I frankly don’t give a damn.

38 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:18:52pm

re: #36 JasonA

Shh! The GOP doesn’t tolerate/encourage racism! Not at all!

Total nontroversy!

39 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:19:40pm

re: #37 Charles

Its day-to-day poltical thinking.

“What do I have to do right now to reduce damage?”

40 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:19:43pm

re: #34 windsagio

So much love for that title >>

Freespace (both of them) was/were the best space shooters ever.

Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind. Nice to acquire another diversion .

41 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:19:43pm

What on earth are these people thinking to put on such shameless displays of racism? Is there a shrewd political calculation involved, or are they really just a bunch of low-class zeros.

42 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:19:46pm

My favorite Chicago electronic/industrial/glam/trash/sleaze rock band, My LIfe With the Thrill Kill Kult!

Youtube Video

I saw these guys live in Seattle for my 21st birthday. The show was right on my birthday! Still one of the best concerts I have ever seen. Unforgettable spectacle and showmanship. And loud as fuck.

43 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:20:37pm

re: #35 brookly red

true & so? I mean is it any more racial then when Obama said “I don’t look like them”? It was in poor taste but I don’t feel the need to be outraged.

???

44 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:21:14pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

I’m thinking of a 1 word injoke/insult for you.

Can you guess what it is?

45 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:21:44pm

re: #44 windsagio

I’m thinking of a 1 word injoke/insult for you.

Can you guess what it is?

No o_o

46 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:22:02pm

re: #36 JasonA

Taken in context with the sign?

well now intent is another matter, he may very well have intended to be racist but he came off sounding like a not ready for prime time comedian and with all due respect to my rural counterparts a bit of a hick.

47 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:22:03pm

re: #45 WindUpBird

“Endfest!”

My one musical coup over you :D

48 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:22:51pm

re: #47 windsagio

“Endfest!”

My one musical coup over you :D

I was there! But I left before TKK ;_;

49 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:23:38pm

re: #46 brookly red

well now intent is another matter, he may very well have intended to be racist but he came off sounding to brookly red like a not ready for prime time comedian and with all due respect to my rural counterparts a bit of a hick.

FTFY

50 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:23:45pm

re: #32 Semper Fi

Did you have a productive day?

51 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:24:07pm

re: #38 windsagio

Shh! The GOP doesn’t tolerate/encourage racism! Not at all!

Total nontroversy!

No southern strategy! Doesn’t exist!

Obama is racial!

52 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:24:12pm

re: #48 WindUpBird


2010 roadtrip?

53 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:24:20pm

re: #41 Spare O’Lake

What on earth are these people thinking to put on such shameless displays of racism? Is there a shrewd political calculation involved, or are they really just a bunch of low-class zeros.

TRASH! Utter TRASH!

54 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:25:19pm

re: #42 WindUpBird

My favorite Chicago electronic/industrial/glam/trash/sleaze rock band, My LIfe With the Thrill Kill Kult!


[Video]I saw these guys live in Seattle for my 21st birthday. The show was right on my birthday! Still one of the best concerts I have ever seen. Unforgettable spectacle and showmanship. And loud as fuck.

gawd…really, best concert ever?

55 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:25:38pm

re: #41 Spare O’Lake

What on earth are these people thinking to put on such shameless displays of racism? Is there a shrewd political calculation involved, or are they really just a bunch of low-class zeros.

Low-class zeros who kept quiet for years, but who sense now that their time has come.
Ugh.

56 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:26:03pm

re: #51 WindUpBird

No southern strategy! Doesn’t exist!

Obama is racial!

The problem is that at the moment the GOP has a “southern strategy” in the sense that those are the only states they can consistently win in presidential races for the most part (that plus the midwest)

57 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:26:37pm

re: #40 Semper Fi

Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind. Nice to acquire another diversion .

Hi you! I last talked to you early this morning before I went to the Track…
I made it home! What a great day at Indy.. I have the worst sunburn in the world…Yes I am the dumbest person in the world..My skin is burning..all day at a racetrack..Stupid #10 on the list

58 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:26:43pm

re: #54 albusteve

If I may butt in, I would guess his best concert was the NIN/Bowie “Outside” tour.

Mine was Mike Doughty at Neumo’s, that’s a whole different scene tho’

59 KingKenrod  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:27:26pm

Excellent selection of ambient today, Charles. You may make a few Amazon bucks off me yet…

60 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:28:41pm

re: #59 KingKenrod

Excellent selection of ambient today, Charles. You may make a few Amazon bucks off me yet…

Initially read that as ‘Ambien’, and was like “Woah!”

61 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:28:57pm

re: #41 Spare O’Lake

What on earth are these people thinking to put on such shameless displays of racism? Is there a shrewd political calculation involved, or are they really just a bunch of low-class zeros.

I have a poor opinion for those types and absolutely no respect. I actually think it’s possible they’re holding back, testing the water so to speak, gathering the like-minded as they go.

62 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:29:21pm

re: #43 WindUpBird

???

[Link: edition.cnn.com…]

I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen - a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

I know that I don’t look like the Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city. The journey that led me here is improbable. My mother was born in the heartland of America, but my father grew up herding goats in Kenya. His father - my grandfather - was a cook, a domestic servant to the British.

He also mentioned that he didn’t look like other Presidents on US currency. Can’t recall where, but I think it was on the same trip.

63 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:29:23pm

ROV on its way to the surface. Lots of bubbles.

64 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:29:59pm

re: #55 reine.de.tout

Low-class zeros who kept quiet for years, but who sense now that their time has come.
Ugh.

and they are molding a half true new paradigm to embrace stupid voters, and with powerful friends in the media as a vehicle, they are driving the right into some Brave New World. likely to drag the rest of us with them

65 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:30:46pm

re: #63 Bagua

Lots of bubbles.

MP3 Audio
66 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:31:26pm

re: #60 windsagio

Initially read that as ‘Ambien’, and was like “Woah!”

it’s whoa…if your going to pilfer my stuff, get it right

67 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:31:47pm

re: #65 freetoken

Heh… “sliver sea” he said. Well, it used to be silver.

68 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:31:54pm

re: #65 freetoken

[Video]

ET, phone home. Back to the mother-ship, just broke the surface showing the armada of drill and support vessels.

Link live

69 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:32:44pm

re: #63 Bagua

ROV on its way to the surface. Lots of bubbles.

Is that what that’s all about?
I was looking at the live feed and couldn’t figure out what was happening.

70 Randall Gross  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:32:59pm

OT:
After the storm the other day the hunters came out…

Image: Hunters-after-the-Rain.jpg

71 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:33:09pm

re: #50 MandyManners

Did you have a productive day?

Indeed yes. Made up for a week of sporadic and light accomplishment. Now, I feel pretty good about myself. Thanks

72 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:33:30pm

re: #69 reine.de.tout

Is that what that’s all about?
I was looking at the live feed and couldn’t figure out what was happening.

That was fantastic. They left the camera on from 5,000 ft at the sea-bed and all the way up to break the surface, now showing all the drill-ships lit up by their lights.

73 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:34:14pm

I’m recording this for the Bagua page.

74 Vambo  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:34:54pm

Jesus, what an asshole.

Obama is probably the whitest black person you could ask to be elected president, and these guys are calling him a “homie”? They’re probably just jealous of his large black penis.

75 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:35:13pm

With Don Ho singing about wine, I hear by declare that it is FNDT time!

76 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:35:14pm

re: #72 Bagua

That was fantastic. They left the camera on from 5,000 ft at the sea-bed and all the way up to break the surface, now showing all the drill-ships lit up by their lights.

Lots of activity up there judging by the number of vessels.

77 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:35:41pm

re: #76 reine.de.tout

Well nobody can say they’re not trying their damndest to fix it :D

78 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:35:58pm

Not every teaparty puts up with racism.

Youtube Video
79 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:36:03pm

re: #74 Vambo

Shhh… not allowed to say that word.

80 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:36:22pm

Reposted from the dead thread. Charlie Cook revisits his prediction of a Republican blow out in November:[Link: cookpolitical.com…]

81 jamesfirecat  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:36:26pm

re: #74 Vambo

Jesus, what an asshole.

Obama is probably the whitest black person you could ask to be elected president, and these guys are calling him a “homie”? They’re probably just jealous of his large black penis.

Tell me, schatze, is it twue what they say about the way you people are… gifted?

82 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:36:26pm

re: #77 windsagio

Well nobody can say they’re not trying their damndest to fix it :D

$$$$….BP is toast, just a matter of how dark and crispy

83 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:37:06pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

Hi you! I last talked to you early this morning before I went to the Track…
I made it home! What a great day at Indy.. I have the worst sunburn in the world…Yes I am the dumbest person in the world..My skin is burning..all day at a racetrack..Stupid #10 on the list

HH, I feel for you and, in that, we are similar. I’ve done that sunburn thing so many times. I have never ‘learned.’ With the sun, it must have been very nice. Never been to Indy myself. Glad you had a good one.

84 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:37:39pm

re: #76 reine.de.tout

Lots of activity up there judging by the number of vessels.

You can clearly make out a Drill-ship to the left. We are seeing the vessel it is launched from now, maybe someone’s face soon. From a mile beneath the waves. Wow.

85 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:37:40pm

re: #77 windsagio

Well nobody can say they’re not trying their damndest to fix it :D

Well, they are actually!
gawd, who wants that sort of bad publicity and public perception?
But there’s not one thing they can do to bring back those 11 dead people. Who didn’t even have a body left to find and bring home for a funeral.
Sorry for the drama there. I just get really upset when I think about those people, and the stupid comments BP has made over the past few days.

86 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:38:03pm

re: #82 albusteve

$$$…BP is toast, just a matter of how dark and crispy

uhh, no too big to fail. No matter how big the cost it will simply be passed on to the consumer & such is life.

87 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:38:22pm

re: #81 jamesfirecat

I think he said “The President is near!”

88 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:39:15pm

re: #84 Bagua

You can clearly make out a Drill-ship to the left. We are seeing the vessel it is launched from now, maybe someone’s face soon. From a mile beneath the waves. Wow.

“Not Recording” right now, it says.
This stuff is really fascinating to you, isn’t it?

89 compound idaho  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:39:28pm

re: #56 jamesfirecat

The problem is that at the moment the GOP has a “southern strategy” in the sense that those are the only states they can consistently win in presidential races for the most part (that plus the midwest)

… and the intermountain west, ID, WY, UT (electoral powerhouses). Idaho used to be a solid blue state. We had D governors through the 60’s and 70’s and who can forget senator Frank Church-D ID. In the 70’s and 80’s environmental/democrat policies drove all the good mining and timber jobs over seas and to Canada. Say what you will, those jobs provided a good living for a lot of families and Idaho has been solidly red ever since. Some people hold a grudge.

90 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:40:16pm

If anyone is into it, I’ve created a Celtics/Magic game chat page. We can talk thru the game.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

91 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:40:40pm

re: #86 brookly red

uhh, no too big to fail. No matter how big the cost it will simply be passed on to the consumer & such is life.

the USA can put the OOB…fuck them, they deserve nothing less, there is no place in N America for such a callous, inept, dangerous company

92 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:41:28pm

The past of LGF through the eyes of a newbie:
- Stalkers;
- IL92;
- Sharmuta;
- Cryptic references to the (good, bad or different) old days;
- mysterious morons registering at 1 a.m. EST and exploding in a burst of rage and self-pity;

Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. Expecting to be transported to the days of disco any minute now…
/

93 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:41:43pm

re: #91 albusteve

the USA can put the OOB…fuck them, they deserve nothing less, there is no place in N America for such a callous, inept, dangerous company

perhaps but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

94 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:42:09pm

re: #71 Semper Fi

Indeed yes. Made up for a week of sporadic and light accomplishment. Now, I feel pretty good about myself. Thanks

All play and no work makes Jack an indolent boy.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Balance.

(I slacked off today and did a pork roast instead of the big Italian thing.)

95 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:43:15pm

Oh, and this teabagger just clarifies things even more.

96 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:43:21pm

re: #92 Nimed

The past of LGF through the eyes of a newbie:
- Stalkers;
- IL92;
- Sharmuta;
- Cryptic references to the (good, bad or different) old days;
- mysterious morons registering at 1 a.m. EST and exploding in a burst of rage and self-pity;

Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. Expecting to be transported to the days of disco any minute now…
/

tasteless hack…what’s Sharmuta got to do with stalkers, and wtf is your point?

97 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:43:41pm

re: #92 Nimed

The past of LGF through the eyes of a newbie:
- Stalkers;
- IL92;
- Sharmuta;
- Cryptic references to the (good, bad or different) old days;
- mysterious morons registering at 1 a.m. EST and exploding in a burst of rage and self-pity;

Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. Expecting to be transported to the days of disco any minute now…
/

I really, truly hope you are not taking the name of Sharmuta in vain.

98 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:43:50pm

re: #80 prairiefire

Reposted from the dead thread. Charlie Cook revisits his prediction of a Republican blow out in November:[Link: cookpolitical.com…]

The GOP will definitely make serious gains in the House. Too soon too tell if they’ll have a majority, though.

99 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:43:58pm

re: #96 albusteve

tasteless hack…what’s Sharmuta got to do with stalkers, and wtf is your point?

He made no such connection, dumb-ass.

100 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:45:11pm

re: #92 Nimed

[snip] Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. [snip]

Are you suggesting we’re all dead here?

101 Cheechako  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:45:16pm

Here’s the response map for the Gulf. You can zoom in to different areas. I was unable to find a legend to identify what the symbols mean.

Gulf of Mexico Response Map

102 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:45:22pm

re: #92 Nimed

You mad, mad fool! What are you doing?!?!

103 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:45:29pm

re: #99 JasonA

He made no such connection, dumb-ass.

Yeah, he just commented on what he’s heard commented. I think!

104 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:45:52pm

re: #103 Stanley Sea

It’s all so meta.

105 bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:04pm

re: #100 abolitionist

[snip] Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. [snip]

Are you suggesting we’re all dead here?

Isn’t it obvious? Since the plane wreck.

106 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:10pm

re: #92 Nimed

The past of LGF through the eyes of a newbie:
- Stalkers;
- IL92;
- Sharmuta;
- Cryptic references to the (good, bad or different) old days;
- mysterious morons registering at 1 a.m. EST and exploding in a burst of rage and self-pity;

Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. Expecting to be transported to the days of disco any minute now…
/

heh.
The days then were similar to the days now, squabbles and all, but the focus was a tad different, more very conservative conservatives here.

107 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:17pm

re: #96 albusteve

tasteless hack…what’s Sharmuta got to do with stalkers, and wtf is your point?

Re-read the post as many times as it takes to capture its surface meaning.

108 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:40pm

re: #102 windsagio

You mad, mad fool! What are you doing?!?!

Tribalism!

109 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:55pm

re: #91 albusteve

the USA can put the OOB…fuck them, they deserve nothing less, there is no place in N America for such a callous, inept, dangerous company

I’m not, it’s a corporate world…but if I was AG I’d go after these guys with an attitude…this company needs to have the shit kicked out of it if it’s going to do business around here…these assholes have scorned us, all of us

110 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:56pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

That’s the funny thing. It really is always the same, in the end.

Just yeah, trending left a little bit. As far as personality conflicts/etc. Its just replacing the names.

111 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:46:58pm

re: #83 Semper Fi

HH, I feel for you and, in that, we are similar. I’ve done that sunburn thing so many times. I have never ‘learned.’ With the sun, it must have been very nice. Never been to Indy myself. Glad you had a good one.

Look I am going to so scam some Cowboy tickets this up coming season.,..I’ll be in the neighborhood soon…I can’t believe I’m going to live in the South for the first time in my life… I’m a southern boy!

112 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:47:04pm

re: #107 Nimed

Re-read the post as many times as it takes to capture its surface meaning.

I think all that seniority he lords over everyone is getting to his head.

113 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:47:09pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

heh.
The days then were similar to the days now, squabbles and all, but the focus was a tad different, more very conservative conservatives here.

love ya! and thank goodness.

114 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:47:14pm

re: #108 Racer X

You said it, not me :D

115 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:47:26pm

I see dead people.

And black smoke.

116 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:47:48pm

re: #110 windsagio

That’s the funny thing. It really is always the same, in the end.

Just yeah, trending left a little bit. As far as personality conflicts/etc. Its just replacing the names.

Trending left a lot.
Of course, that’s my perspective.
But the other stuff - yep, same old, same old.

117 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:48:02pm

re: #114 windsagio

You said it, not me :D

Heh.

It’s my new word.

118 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:48:11pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

heh.
The days then were similar to the days now, squabbles and all, but the focus was a tad different, more very conservative conservatives here.

Someday we should all sit around the campfire and tell them about Iron Fist and Rayra.

119 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:48:18pm

re: #100 abolitionist

re: #105 bagua

Obviously, the stalkers are the Others. I think. Charles is Jacob/Hurley.

I’ve run out of parallels. :p

120 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:48:26pm

re: #106 reine.de.tout

heh.
The days then were similar to the days now, squabbles and all, but the focus was a tad different, more very conservative conservatives here.

FisCons, if memory serves.

121 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:48:47pm

re: #117 Racer X

Hell of a word, innit?

122 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:49:45pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Someday we should all sit around the campfire and tell them about Iron Fist and Rayra.

No shit. Talk about bickering and nasty comments. Tame in here now.

123 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:49:46pm

re: #120 MandyManners

My memory of the year or so from when I started reading to when I finally actually managed to hit a registration window was that it was alll about the war on Radical Islam.

(I don’t mean Charles, he’s already smacked me for that once >>)

124 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:49:48pm

re: #94 MandyManners

All play and no work makes Jack an indolent boy.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Balance.

(I slacked off today and did a pork roast instead of the big Italian thing.)

Pork roast is surely a favorite for me. Also, Italian will always get my attention.
I just finished a little treat and now sipping just a little chianti. I sauted a couple chopped toes of garlic, ever so very lightly, in olive oil and poured it on some ravioli. Sprinkle a little cheese. Bite a little bread. Take an occasional sip. Perfecto

125 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:49:48pm

re: #115 Racer X

I see dead people.

And black smoke.

The stuff in the cave was the same stuff in Marsellis Wallis’s briefcase

126 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:50:14pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

love ya! and thank goodness.

Well, and actually -
When I was a noob - there apparently had just been a purge of some sort, with a bunch of people getting banned and/or flouncing (as it has been named) and they went off and formed a blog, and I would see all sorts of cryptic references to “GCP” - which stood for their blog name - and nics I had no frame of reference for.

It’s nothing new.

127 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:50:21pm

re: #100 abolitionist

Depends on whether this is the flash sideways.

128 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:50:27pm

re: #107 Nimed

Re-read the post as many times as it takes to capture its surface meaning.

I have…my bad
are you bleeding?

129 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:50:44pm

re: #123 windsagio

My memory of the year or so from when I started reading to when I finally actually managed to hit a registration window was that it was alll about the war on Radical Islam.

(I don’t mean Charles, he’s already smacked me for that once >>)

Well, I reckon you weren’t paying close attention.

130 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:50:49pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

The stuff in the cave was the same stuff in Marsellis Wallis’s briefcase

Or the trunk of the car in Repo Man?

131 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:09pm

re: #129 MandyManners

Its huuugely surprising that we might see things differently ;)

132 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:24pm

re: #124 Semper Fi

Pork roast is surely a favorite for me. Also, Italian will always get my attention.
I just finished a little treat and now sipping just a little chianti. I sauted a couple chopped toes of garlic, ever so very lightly, in olive oil and poured it on some ravioli. Sprinkle a little cheese. Bite a little bread. Take an occasional sip. Perfecto

*sigh*

Will you marry me?

133 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:26pm

re: #122 Racer X

Last time I saw Rayra he was on Hot Air making wookie comments about Michelle Obama.

134 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:29pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Someday we should all sit around the campfire and tell them about Iron Fist and Rayra.

See - I don’t recall Rayra. He was gone when I showed up regularly.
Iron Fist - wow. That was one.
Sometimes he sounded perfectly sane, and could write very eloquently.

And then he’d get drunk or something, and post the weirdest and most vile SHIT.

135 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:46pm

re: #130 Racer X

Or the trunk of the car in Repo Man?

Ah, good one.

136 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:47pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Someday we should all sit around the campfire and tell them about Iron Fist and Rayra.

I’m so listening.

137 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:51:50pm

re: #112 JasonA

I think all that seniority he lords over everyone is getting to his head.

chill out….don’t be so thinned skinned
it’s Friday

138 Spare O'Lake  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:52:20pm

re: #110 windsagio

That’s the funny thing. It really is always the same, in the end.

Just yeah, trending left a little bit. As far as personality conflicts/etc. Its just replacing the names.

What is always the same, in the end?

139 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:52:22pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

Its funny actually, there have been occasions where WUB and I have wondered what would happen if we really cut loose.

The presumption is that we’d get banned mega-fast >>

140 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:52:40pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

Trending left a lot.
Of course, that’s my perspective.
But the other stuff - yep, same old, same old.

That’s interesting. I think that, were we to do a list of people leaning conservative and liberal, things would be pretty balanced. That’s just my impression, though.

141 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:52:47pm

re: #131 windsagio

Its huuugely surprising that we might see things differently ;)

Did you or did you not pay attention to the debunking of DI? Did you or did you not pay attention to the stripping away of BHO’s facade?

142 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:52:57pm

re: #120 MandyManners

FisCons, if memory serves.

Many of ‘em Mandy, were also what we now call “religious right” and a lot of very conservative SoCons. I’m not gonna put the names out here. But think about it.

143 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:53:09pm

re: #138 Spare O’Lake

Nothing new under the Sun!

…

To get all starry-eyed for a minute, I do thing that things generally get better in the long run, at least on a macro-scale.

144 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:53:12pm

Like it matters who lays a stupid wreath somewhere.

145 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:53:58pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

See - I don’t recall Rayra. He was gone when I showed up regularly.
Iron Fist - wow. That was one.
Sometimes he sounded perfectly sane, and could write very eloquently.

And then he’d get drunk or something, and post the weirdest and most vile SHIT.

Rayra was unique.

Once I get back in touch with Gary in Pahkeestahn, I’ll get MY FAVORITES reinstalled. Oh, the links I have!!!

146 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:54:32pm

re: #141 MandyManners

Did you or did you not pay attention to the stripping away of BHO’s facade?

Your slip is showing! (again!)

147 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:54:40pm

re: #128 albusteve

I have…my bad
are you bleeding?

Just a bit, from the wound in my soul.

/drama queen

148 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:54:42pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

See - I don’t recall Rayra. He was gone when I showed up regularly.
Iron Fist - wow. That was one.
Sometimes he sounded perfectly sane, and could write very eloquently.

And then he’d get drunk or something, and post the weirdest and most vile SHIT.

I useta’ actually duck during a smack-down.

149 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:55:18pm

re: #111 HoosierHoops

Look I am going to so scam some Cowboy tickets this up coming season.,..I’ll be in the neighborhood soon…I can’t believe I’m going to live in the South for the first time in my life… I’m a southern boy!

I don’t remember exactly where (city) you’re headed. Cowboy tickets sounds like a winner. I love the way Texans approach football. They’re very serious and such great talent.

150 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:55:41pm

re: #144 Cato the Elder

Like it matters who lays a stupid wreath somewhere.

Pomp and ceremony is important to reactionaries.

151 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:55:54pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Many of ‘em Mandy, were also what we now call “religious right” and a lot of very conservative SoCons. I’m not gonna put the names out here. But think about it.

Fine with me but, I don’t recall many who would be comfortable with the likes of that dick-head Dale Robertson.

152 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:56:18pm

re: #134 reine.de.tout

See - I don’t recall Rayra. He was gone when I showed up regularly.
Iron Fist - wow. That was one.
Sometimes he sounded perfectly sane, and could write very eloquently.

And then he’d get drunk or something, and post the weirdest and most vile SHIT.

I don’t condone the vile shit…but those were some colorful people, and a riot to blog with for the most part….I miss Occasional Reader….what a hoot those people were, it just broke down and got replaced

153 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:56:18pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Many of ‘em Mandy, were also what we now call “religious right” and a lot of very conservative SoCons. I’m not gonna put the names out here. But think about it.

And, I have no problem with SoCons if they are balanced.

154 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:56:33pm

re: #139 windsagio

Its funny actually, there have been occasions where WUB and I have wondered what would happen if we really cut loose.

The presumption is that we’d get banned mega-fast >>

Do tell. What you hiding? Is that bad that Charles would take offense?

155 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:56:37pm

re: #120 MandyManners

FisCons, if memory serves.

FistCons.

156 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:56:55pm

re: #146 windsagio

Your slip is showing! (again!)

I’m tempted to say something about biting my shiny, metal ass but, I’ll refrain.

157 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:04pm

re: #136 Stanley Sea

I’m so listening.

heh…uncle Killgore can spin some yarns

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:14pm

re: #5 jamesfirecat

You sir are as an inspiration to your fellow Republicans.

Or at least you SHOULD be an inspiration to your fellow Republicans.

FBV is an inspiration to us all. Even the skinny legitimate meat-eaters.

159 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:21pm

re: #139 windsagio

Its funny actually, there have been occasions where WUB and I have wondered what would happen if we really cut loose.

The presumption is that we’d get banned mega-fast >>

Oh I think you’ve got that right.


re: #140 Nimed

That’s interesting. I think that, were we to do a list of people leaning conservative and liberal, things would be pretty balanced. That’s just my impression, though.

You might be correct. My gut impression is that things are much more left here now, but that might be because I was accustomed to something different before. When I try to go through it in my head, it seems there is more of a balance than I’ve credited.

160 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:26pm

re: #137 albusteve

chill out…don’t be so thinned skinned
it’s Friday

Moi? Thin-skinned? Surely you jest.

161 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:27pm

re: #156 MandyManners

That would be an actually clever insult/diss so go for it :D

Futurama references usually get updings.

162 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:29pm

re: #154 Racer X

Do tell. What you hiding? Is that bad that Charles would take offense?

you know, that stuff that he put’s on his pizza…

163 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:34pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Someday we should all sit around the campfire and tell them about Iron Fist and Rayra.

See, I’ve never even heard of those two. Spooky!

164 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:50pm

re: #139 windsagio

Its funny actually, there have been occasions where WUB and I have wondered what would happen if we really cut loose.

The presumption is that we’d get banned mega-fast >>

oh my!….I’m impressed!

165 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:52pm

re: #155 Cato the Elder

I’m on the verge of GAZING you right now, Cato.

166 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:57:54pm

re: #132 MandyManners

*sigh*

Will you marry me?

You’re so funny. Eating is good.

167 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:08pm

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

FBV is an inspiration to us all. Even the skinny legitimate meat-eaters.

I have two of those down, but I’m not saying which ones.

168 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:10pm

re: #165 MandyManners

I’m on the verge of GAZING you right now, Cato.

And, I know you’re quaking in your boots.

169 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:13pm

re: #154 Racer X

Its a style thing. Our internet roots aren’t so… cultured as LGF is.

170 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:26pm

re: #151 MandyManners

Fine with me but, I don’t recall many who would be comfortable with the likes of that dick-head Dale Robertson.

Yes, I think you are quite right on that.

171 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:46pm

re: #11 JasonA

I’m starting to think that everything this man knows about African Americans came from Good Times.

I think there’s a little bit of “Don’t Be A Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice In The Hood” in there too.

I don’t think he realized it was meant to be a satire.

172 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:53pm

re: #165 MandyManners

OOH TOTALLY PUT SOMEONE ON NOTICE!

If you’re gonna ignore somebody, ignore them don’t try to shame them.

Its contemptible manipulation.

173 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:58:55pm

re: #163 Nimed

See, I’ve never even heard of those two. Spooky!

On the rare occasion where Charles links to a thread from 2 years ago, none of the nics are familiar to me.

174 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:05pm

re: #169 windsagio

Its a style thing. Our internet roots aren’t so… cultured as LGF is.

*lifts pinky*

Right on.

175 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:05pm

re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist

I think there’s a little bit of “Don’t Be A Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice In The Hood” in there too.

I don’t think he realized it was meant to be a satire.

That was satire?!?!?

176 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:21pm

re: #161 windsagio

That would be an actually clever insult/diss so go for it :D

Futurama references usually get updings.

I wouldn’t know shit about it if The Kid had not figured out—when he was four—how to get around the V-Chip.

177 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:23pm

re: #170 reine.de.tout

From the references you guys make at least some of them would be perfectly comfortable with him tho’.

178 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:35pm

re: #152 albusteve

I don’t condone the vile shit…but those were some colorful people, and a riot to blog with for the most part…I miss Occasional Reader…what a hoot those people were, it just broke down and got replaced

OldLineTexan always made me laugh.

179 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:51pm

re: #144 Cato the Elder

Like it matters who lays a stupid wreath somewhere.


Arlington is the end all for veterans. You are not as important if you are not buried there. That’s what I’m hearing.

180 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 6:59:52pm

re: #166 Semper Fi

You’re so funny. Eating is good.

Beats starvation.

181 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:00:16pm

re: #139 windsagio

Its funny actually, there have been occasions where WUB and I have wondered what would happen if we really cut loose.

The presumption is that we’d get banned mega-fast >>

Hey, everybody exercises restraint. We’re guests after all. I pretty sure my full opinion on the war in Iraq would get me a negative karma.

182 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:01pm

Remember the Dale Peterson, from Alabama, who is running for Agriculture Commission in that state, who put out this ad:

Youtube Video

that was such a hit in the right-o-sphere?

Well, he has given an interview:

Alabama’s Dale Peterson of YouTube Political Ad Sensation “We Are Better than That” In which he says:

[…]

3. I am a strong proponent of the 10th Amendment. Government at all levels has forgotten who gives whom the power. People give rights to their state through elections. The constitution gives rights to the states not specifically given to the federal government. This has been all turned around now. We need to get back to the correct basics in understanding governing.

[…]

I also believe the creation of the Federal Reserve in the 1920s started an agenda that has resulted in unstable finances for the US. With the creation of the United Nations and encouraging, if not just plain allowing, US policy and direction to be dictated by the UN and the IMF; we are undermining our own best interests for our country and our own people. Political correctness has disarmed us in many ways, but refusing to acknowledge terrorists threatening America are Muslim extremists and coming from an extreme position in Islam is putting us further in harm’s way.


[Questioner]: If you could have lunch with President Obama, what would you tell him?
[Petersen]: I would not have lunch with President Obama. I can no longer believe he has this country’s best interest at heart, and I can’t respect him or anyone for that, so I could not have lunch with him.

[…]

No wonder the right-o-sphere fell in love with Peterson so quickly, he is straight out of the Paulian/Beck/Jones school.

183 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:07pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Speaking of Arlington, they should tear out that confederate memorial there.

184 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:22pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Arlington is the end all for veterans. You are not as important if you are not buried there. That’s what I’m hearing.

Must suck for the 10,000 we have buried in Normandy.

185 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:33pm

re: #181 Nimed

Hey, everybody exercises restraint. We’re guests after all. I pretty sure my full opinion on the war in Iraq would get me a negative karma.

sad that you feel that you need to be dishonest to be accepted…

186 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:40pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Arlington is the end all for veterans. You are not as important if you are not buried there. That’s what I’m hearing.

Reagan delegated. Bush delegated. But it’s different if you’re a sooper-seekrit Kenyan-Indonesian Moooslim without a birth certifikit.

187 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:44pm

re: #152 albusteve

I don’t condone the vile shit…but those were some colorful people, and a riot to blog with for the most part…I miss Occasional Reader…what a hoot those people were, it just broke down and got replaced

memories.

Youtube Video
188 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:01:45pm

re: #181 Nimed

heh, once suggested that we should cut 90% of the defense budget and put it into NASA. I think that one was like -10 or something >>

189 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:21pm

Fox News is on the Sestak nontroversy full-time.

Even Fox News can’t gin up a controversy on this one.

190 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:22pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

Totally knew what that was before I clicked!

KUDOS!

191 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:26pm

I’d kinda forgotten how many people here don’t know what LGF used to be like before Charles started cleaning up. Pick a random thread from the archives for 2004 and see what used to go on here.

192 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:30pm

re: #169 windsagio

Its a style thing. Our internet roots aren’t so… cultured as LGF is.

Yes, but ain’t it a grand place?
I mean, I see you here quite a lot.
There must be something about the civilizing effect of LGF that appeals to you. Maybe you’re growing up?

193 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:35pm

re: #180 MandyManners

Beats starvation.

And there’s so much of that going on in the world. I don’t think that will ever change. Sad.

194 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:40pm

re: #182 freetoken

He’s running for fucking Agriculture Commissioner! Can’t that race be normal?!?

195 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:51pm

Gotta’ take care of the small horde camping here tonight.

I’m thinking of building a “shack” for The Kid and his buddies. Thing is, even if they all commit to spending the night in it, they’ll all wind up back in the house. Ah. No problem. The experience is worth it.

196 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:02:53pm

re: #159 reine.de.tout

You might be correct. My gut impression is that things are much more left here now, but that might be because I was accustomed to something different before. When I try to go through it in my head, it seems there is more of a balance than I’ve credited.

I suppose we could try to operationalize it and make a list of regular commenters and their tendencies.

I actually like the conservatives in LGF. Well, most of them, most of the time.

197 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:03:17pm

re: #177 windsagio

From the references you guys make at least some of them would be perfectly comfortable with him tho’.

eh, not the ones I remember.

198 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:03:19pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

I’ve peered into the past and was lucky to get back alive.

199 Racer X  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:03:47pm

re: #171 SanFranciscoZionist

I think there’s a little bit of “Don’t Be A Menace To South Central While Drinking Your Juice In The Hood” in there too.

I don’t think he realized it was meant to be a satire.

I’m gonna git you sucka.

How much for one rib

Youtube Video


/Got change for a hunndred?

200 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:04:20pm

re: #185 brookly red

sad that you feel that you need to be dishonest to be accepted…

If the issue comes up, I’ll give my opinion. But I’ll try be more tactful, and resist the impulse to insult people.

201 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:04:21pm

re: #35 brookly red

true & so? I mean is it any more racial then when Obama said “I don’t look like them”? It was in poor taste but I don’t feel the need to be outraged.

I don’t know if it’s any more racial, but it’s definitely more racist.

202 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:04:27pm

re: #188 windsagio

heh, once suggested that we should cut 90% of the defense budget and put it into NASA. I think that one was like -10 or something >>

don’t worry plenty is being spent on space weapons.

203 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:04:27pm

re: #192 reine.de.tout

Now now.

Its not about growing up :p


The level of moderation is actually half of whats nice about LGF. You have no idea how tiring [MARQUEE][BLINKING] text and obscene image macros get after a while.

Its also nice that whether its due to the current political transition on the blog, or just general culture, its not a Freep/Kos echochamber.

204 erraticsphinx  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:04:33pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

The 2007ish threads on Euro Fascists are always a fun read.

205 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:16pm

re: #172 windsagio

OOH TOTALLY PUT SOMEONE ON NOTICE!

If you’re gonna ignore somebody, ignore them don’t try to shame them.

Its contemptible manipulation.

you seem prone to these hyper outbursts….are you having fun or are you in distress?

206 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:36pm

re: #201 SanFranciscoZionist

I don’t know if it’s any more racial, but it’s definitely more racist.

after 100 comments the statute of limitations kicks in…

207 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:41pm

re: #195 MandyManners

Gotta’ take care of the small horde camping here tonight.

I’m thinking of building a “shack” for The Kid and his buddies. Thing is, even if they all commit to spending the night in it, they’ll all wind up back in the house. Ah. No problem. The experience is worth it.

hey, are you still here?
How’s the Kid doing?
Has he gotten over the disappointment?
I predict that by mid-year of the next school year (if not before) he will be doing really well, and won’t remember what all the fuss was about.

208 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:49pm

re: #200 Nimed

We all learn that sometimes silence is a virtue >>

209 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:51pm

re: #187 Stanley Sea

memories.

Forced viewing of Streisand could easily replace waterboarding as the enhanced interrogation technique of choice.

210 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:05:59pm

re: #184 JasonA

Must suck for the 10,000 we have buried in Normandy.

A Normandy tour has been a thought of mine for a few years now. Maybe if the travel bug bites at just the right time….. I’ll do that one.

211 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:06:22pm

re: #184 JasonA

Must suck for the 10,000 we have buried in Normandy.

Obama is not going THERE? WTF?

OUTRAGE

212 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:06:24pm

re: #191 Killgore Trout

I’d kinda forgotten how many people here don’t know what LGF used to be like before Charles started cleaning up. Pick a random thread from the archives for 2004 and see what used to go on here.

I think that exercise applies to almost every political blog and opinion column. Different times.

213 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:06:26pm

re: #205 albusteve

Like the rest of us, I”m totally getting my needs met ;)


Seriously, if I didn’t enjoy posting here, why would I do it?

214 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:06:39pm

re: #196 Nimed

I suppose we could try to operationalize it and make a list of regular commenters and their tendencies.

I actually like the conservatives in LGF. Well, most of them, most of the time.

*ahem*
well.
then.
Since I’m one of ‘em, I don’t know whether to take that as a compliment, or not.
I think I’ll take it as a compliment. Easier on my blood pressure.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:07:05pm

re: #74 Vambo

Jesus, what an asshole.

Obama is probably the whitest black person you could ask to be elected president, and these guys are calling him a “homie”? They’re probably just jealous of his large black penis.

What about Wayne Brady?

216 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:07:06pm

re: #178 reine.de.tout

OldLineTexan always made me laugh.

yup…oh well…it’s New and Improved!

217 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:07:14pm

re: #214 reine.de.tout

Do’nt worry Reine, you’re one of the good ones :D

218 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:07:18pm

re: #213 windsagio

Like the rest of us, I”m totally getting my needs met ;)

Seriously, if I didn’t enjoy posting here, why would I do it?

Nads, not needs, are what counts around here.

219 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:07:41pm

re: #218 Cato the Elder

We’ve been over this, mine need to be strapped on!

220 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:08:08pm

re: #198 JasonA

I’ve peered into the past and was lucky to get back alive.

LOL
I love that sentence almost regardless of context.

221 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:08:19pm

re: #208 windsagio

We all learn that sometimes silence is a virtue >>

silence is a weapon.
- Ho Chi Minh

222 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:08:41pm

re: #204 erraticsphinx

The 2007ish threads on Euro Fascists are always a fun read.

They are and they’re also very relevant to what’s happening on the right these days. Ron Paul libertarians, Bat Buchanan Paleocon neoConfederates, Robert Taft club, BNP, embracing the racist label, etc. A lot of what’s going on today was set in motion a long time ago.

223 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:09:03pm

re: #203 windsagio

Now now.

Its not about growing up :p

The level of moderation is actually half of whats nice about LGF. You have no idea how tiring [MARQUEE][BLINKING] text and obscene image macros get after a while.

Its also nice that whether its due to the current political transition on the blog, or just general culture, its not a Freep/Kos echochamber.

Agreed.
I was just kidding with you.
And of course, there aren’t the same number of conservatives here to discuss things with as before, however, there is no way I could go to - well, any of the “conservative” blogs, those places are sewers. And I quite enjoy the back and forth that I see here, there are so many really smart people, and for someone like me to be able to have access to that is just - refreshing and wonderful.

224 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:09:17pm

re: #195 MandyManners

Gotta’ take care of the small horde camping here tonight.

I’m thinking of building a “shack” for The Kid and his buddies. Thing is, even if they all commit to spending the night in it, they’ll all wind up back in the house. Ah. No problem. The experience is worth it.

Good on ya Mandy.

225 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:09:43pm

re: #213 windsagio

Like the rest of us, I”m totally getting my needs met ;)

Seriously, if I didn’t enjoy posting here, why would I do it?

you need to freak out like that?

226 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:10:33pm

re: #149 Semper Fi

I don’t remember exactly where (city) you’re headed. Cowboy tickets sounds like a winner. I love the way Texans approach football. They’re very serious and such great talent.

I am moving soon to Ok.,,I have never lived in the South…It’s pretty exciting..
Did you Lizards know that I checked with my Nationwide Agent and they don’t have any Nationwide agents there..No ..Not one..What the hell is the problem with Oklahoma? NOT ONE AGENT! I have to have my Beemer with full coverage when a tornado destroys it…
No Nationwide agents ? Unbelievable!

227 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:10:50pm

re: #217 windsagio

Do’nt worry Reine, you’re one of the good ones :D

*ladylike southern blush*
*while clutching pearls*
thank you, kindly.

228 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:11:01pm

re: #222 Killgore Trout

A lot of what’s going on today was set in motion a long time ago.

Some of it a very long time ago. The current ultra-right lunge is a full scale reincarnation of George Wallace + JBS.

229 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:11:20pm

re: #222 Killgore Trout

They are and they’re also very relevant to what’s happening on the right these days. Ron Paul libertarians, Bat Buchanan Paleocon neoConfederates, Robert Taft club, BNP, embracing the racist label, etc. A lot of what’s going on today was set in motion a long time ago.

Absolutely.

230 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:11:34pm

re: #209 Cato the Elder

Forced viewing of Streisand could easily replace waterboarding as the enhanced interrogation technique of choice.

I knew it was awful for steve, IF he clicked.

Sorry for the rest of you.

231 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:11:46pm

Evening lizards!

232 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:11:50pm

re: #225 albusteve

Emphasis is fun!

What’m I saying, you totally know what I’m talking about :D

233 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:12:05pm

re: #228 freetoken

Some of it a very long time ago. The current ultra-right lunge is a full scale reincarnation of George Wallace + JBS.

Very true, it probably goes back well beyond that. We are seeing some very old muck being stirred up.

234 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:12:26pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I am moving soon to Ok.,,I have never lived in the South…It’s pretty exciting..
Did you Lizards know that I checked with my Nationwide Agent and they don’t have any Nationwide agents there..No ..Not one..What the hell is the problem with Oklahoma? NOT ONE AGENT! I have to have my Beemer with full coverage when a tornado destroys it…
No Nationwide agents ? Unbelievable!

Oklahoma?
That’s not ‘the south”.
Is it?
I never thought of it that way.

235 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:12:45pm

re: #209 Cato the Elder

Forced viewing of Streisand could easily replace waterboarding as the enhanced interrogation technique of choice.

My daughter is enchanted by her. I think it’s the long fingernails. My girl won’t let me delete “Funny Girl’ from the DVR play list.

236 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:14pm

re: #235 prairiefire

My daughter is enchanted by her. I think it’s the long fingernails. My girl won’t let me delete “Funny Girl’ from the DVR play list.

She’ll outgrow the fascination with Streisand.
Most of us do.

237 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:31pm

re: #219 windsagio

We’ve been over this, mine need to be strapped on!

what do I type now?

238 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:32pm

re: #234 reine.de.tout

Oklahoma?
That’s not ‘the south”.
Is it?
I never thought of it that way.

Which side did they take in the civil war?

239 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:47pm

re: #228 freetoken

And Goldwater. Can’t forget Goldwater.

240 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:52pm

re: #228 freetoken

Some of it a very long time ago. The current ultra-right lunge is a full scale reincarnation of George Wallace + JBS.

I grew up in Georgia where Lester Maddox rode his bike backwards in his 1970 campaign.

Later, I discovered the true Maddox.

241 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:13:58pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

They weren’t in play, so to speak.

242 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:14:08pm

re: #237 Stanley Sea

what do I type now?

“I’m so sorry for you”

243 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:14:19pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

The existential crisis side.

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:14:20pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Arlington is the end all for veterans. You are not as important if you are not buried there. That’s what I’m hearing.

According to Snopes, Reagan went to MOSCOW one year, instead of laying a wreath at Arlington!!

245 William of Orange  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:14:23pm

In other Gay news:

Here’s another man who was forced to come out of the closet.

OMG WTF ROFL BBQ!!

246 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:14:33pm

re: #227 reine.de.tout


*while clutching pearls*

Now there’s a phrase that can be used by a man or a woman and mean two completely different things based on gender.

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:37pm

re: #185 brookly red

sad that you feel that you need to be dishonest to be accepted…

I keep my head down about plenty, and I think that lots of others, left, right and center do as well. It’s not dishonestly, it’s about choosing the right topics for the party.

248 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:39pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I am moving soon to Ok.,,I have never lived in the South…It’s pretty exciting..
Did you Lizards know that I checked with my Nationwide Agent and they don’t have any Nationwide agents there..No ..Not one..What the hell is the problem with Oklahoma? NOT ONE AGENT! I have to have my Beemer with full coverage when a tornado destroys it…
No Nationwide agents ? Unbelievable!

Is Oklahoma “the south”? I wonder.

249 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:48pm

re: #234 reine.de.tout

Oklahoma?
That’s not ‘the south”.
Is it?
I never thought of it that way.

A border state for sure. The south is defined by grits and not hash browns. In Tulsa you get both.

250 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:52pm

re: #228 freetoken

Some of it a very long time ago. The current ultra-right lunge is a full scale reincarnation of George Wallace + JBS.

George Wallace turned over some new leafs late in life.

251 Cato the Elder  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:58pm

The dead do not care where they’re buried, what wreaths are laid there, or which martial music is played over their graves on any given day.

This is all political theater at their expense. And they don’t care about that, either.

252 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:15:58pm

re: #241 freetoken
Ah. I can’t imagine getting a decent biscuit and gravy in Oklahoma so I’ll rule them as not being south.

253 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:16:05pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Which side did they take in the civil war?

they didn’t exist then

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:16:12pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder

Reagan delegated. Bush delegated. But it’s different if you’re a sooper-seekrit Kenyan-Indonesian Moooslim without a birth certifikit.

The WaPo did a very skewed little piece on it. Weird.

255 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:16:30pm

re: #249 The Shadow Do

A border state for sure. The south is defined by grits and not hash browns. In Tulsa you get both.

Good theory.

256 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:16:43pm

re: #246 JasonA

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

257 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:07pm

re: #234 reine.de.tout

Oklahoma?
That’s not ‘the south”.
Is it?
I never thought of it that way.

54 days last count…I am so going down south my friend…I’ll be working across the Street from OU soon

258 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:22pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep my head down about plenty, and I think that lots of others, left, right and center do as well. It’s not dishonestly, it’s about choosing the right topics for the party.

well of course

259 Sionainn  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:23pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

I’m in the 2%. I knew I was part of the elite!
//

260 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:24pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

Well I sure as hell ain’t going to tell them.

261 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:36pm

re: #251 Cato the Elder

The dead do not care where they’re buried, what wreaths are laid there, or which martial music is played over their graves on any given day.

This is all political theater at their expense. And they don’t care about that, either.

It is a very high honor. My dad elected to be buried next to my mother, though I knew he felt he belonged in Arlington.

262 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:37pm

OKLAHOMA!
about face!
march!

263 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:18:41pm

Good classic military movies on TCM this weekend. The Great Escape is starting right now.

:o)

264 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:19:11pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

Oh, sure. We learned nothing from ZZ Top:

Youtube Video
265 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:19:24pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

…She’s so tough… as pure as the driven slush…

266 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:19:52pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Which side did they take in the civil war?

I have absolutely no clue.
By the way you ask that, I guess - the South?
But as far as TODAY goes - it just isn’t really “the South”.

267 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:00pm

re: #261 The Shadow Do

It is a very high honor. My dad elected to be buried next to my mother, though I knew he felt he belonged in Arlington.

Didn’t Bill Clinton sell plots during his presidency or something like that?

268 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

The sad history (which the Texastan SBOE will deny) is that “Indian Territory” was created as a result of the genocide program carried out by the United States of American against the Cherokee. And then, when it was realized that there was a decent amount of oil in OK, “Indian Territory” all of a sudden no longer belongs to the “indians” but becomes a state.

269 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:27pm

re: #214 reine.de.tout

*ahem*
well.
then.
Since I’m one of ‘em, I don’t know whether to take that as a compliment, or not.
I think I’ll take it as a compliment. Easier on my blood pressure.

Are you kidding? You, cliffster and Bagua are definitely at the top of the list.
(not being exaustive)

270 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:32pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep my head down about plenty, and I think that lots of others, left, right and center do as well. It’s not dishonestly, it’s about choosing the right topics for the party.

Exactly.

271 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:39pm

re: #226 HoosierHoops

I am moving soon to Ok.,,I have never lived in the South…It’s pretty exciting..
Did you Lizards know that I checked with my Nationwide Agent and they don’t have any Nationwide agents there..No ..Not one..What the hell is the problem with Oklahoma? NOT ONE AGENT! I have to have my Beemer with full coverage when a tornado destroys it…
No Nationwide agents ? Unbelievable!

Tornado’s, my goodness. Not to mention the golf ball size hail. It knows how to storm in a band roughly from the Texas panhandle into Kansas and that takes in all of OK. Like the old seaman, exercise being prudent in event of exciting weather.
I’m happy for you. Anticipating such a change is good for anyone.

272 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:40pm

re: #266 reine.de.tout

I have absolutely no clue.
By the way you ask that, I guess - the South?
But as far as TODAY goes - it just isn’t really “the South”.

I can’t see it from here…

273 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:20:57pm

re: #269 Nimed

Are you kidding? You, cliffster and Bagua are definitely at the top of the list.
(not being exaustive)

PIMF exhaustive.

274 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:21:05pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep my head down about plenty, and I think that lots of others, left, right and center do as well. It’s not dishonestly, it’s about choosing the right topics for the party.

Exactly.
And the right tone.
And forming your sentences carefully to make sure your meaning is as clear as possible.

275 albusteve  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:21:24pm

re: #268 freetoken

The sad history (which the Texastan SBOE will deny) is that “Indian Territory” was created as a result of the genocide program carried out by the United States of American against the Cherokee. And then, when it was realized that there was a decent amount of oil in OK, “Indian Territory” all of a sudden no longer belongs to the “indians” but becomes a state.

sort of….thanks for that
OK is the trash bin….was that is

276 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:21:44pm

re: #269 Nimed

Are you kidding? You, cliffster and Bagua are definitely at the top of the list.
(not being exaustive)

I’m guessing I reside at the bottom of the list?

277 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:21:57pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

You just made that up.

278 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:22:30pm

Cripes, look at the time. Friday nite y’all!


Laters >>

279 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:22:51pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

hey, are you still here?
How’s the Kid doing?
Has he gotten over the disappointment?
I predict that by mid-year of the next school year (if not before) he will be doing really well, and won’t remember what all the fuss was about.

He’s accepted it. Well, he had no choice. I’m a mean mommie.

My parents suddenly pitched a fit. Yeah. As if they have a voice. I love them but, they have no idea what it’s like nowadays.

I’ve been organizing this summer’s EDUCATION-FROM-HELL VACATION the past few days.

Ugh. Just, ugh.

280 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:22:56pm

re: #251 Cato the Elder

The dead do not care where they’re buried, what wreaths are laid there, or which martial music is played over their graves on any given day.

Neither do the undead from the other side of the Wall.
Winter is coming.

281 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:00pm

re: #268 freetoken

The sad history (which the Texastan SBOE will deny) is that “Indian Territory” was created as a result of the genocide program carried out by the United States of American against the Cherokee. And then, when it was realized that there was a decent amount of oil in OK, “Indian Territory” all of a sudden no longer belongs to the “indians” but becomes a state.

There are some horrible stories about land grabs from the American Indians in OK. The Cherokee granted land inheritance to women. I read an article were the author’s young American Indian grandmother committed “suicide” on her front porch with a shotgun. No one in her family believed it was suicide.
Her land was then sold for pennies on the dollar.

282 windsagio  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:01pm

re: #277 SanFranciscoZionist

hows it go? “78% of all statistics are made up on the spot.”

/poof

283 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:08pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t know what a “pearl necklace” is.

I actually own a gen-u-wine pearl necklace.
That I’ve never actually worn anywhere.
It’s not the right length, and I’ve never taken it to have it made shorter.
I need to do that soon.

284 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:11pm

re: #277 SanFranciscoZionist

You just made that up.

ZZ Top made pearl necklaces hip.

285 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:19pm

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

Didn’t Bill Clinton sell plots during his presidency or something like that?

Isn’t Vince Foster buried there?

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:21pm

re: #267 NJDhockeyfan

Didn’t Bill Clinton sell plots during his presidency or something like that?

No.

287 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:29pm

re: #196 Nimed

I suppose we could try to operationalize it and make a list of regular commenters and their tendencies.

I actually like the conservatives in LGF. Well, most of them, most of the time.

Mighty fucking nice of you.

288 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:42pm

re: #256 Linden Arden

98% of females don’t admit to know what a “pearl necklace” is.

fify, kinda…

289 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:23:55pm

re: #277 SanFranciscoZionist

You just made that up.

54% of all statistics are made up

290 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:24:03pm

re: #231 NJDhockeyfan

Evening lizards!

HOW’S IT GOING?

291 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:24:41pm

re: #289 Aceofwhat?

54% of all statistics are made up

that depends on the meaning of the words made up…

292 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:24:44pm

re: #268 freetoken

The sad history (which the Texastan SBOE will deny) is that “Indian Territory” was created as a result of the genocide program carried out by the United States of American against the Cherokee. And then, when it was realized that there was a decent amount of oil in OK, “Indian Territory” all of a sudden no longer belongs to the “indians” but becomes a state.

There’s an interesting alternate-history novel, “The Wild Blue And The Gray”, which touches on the OK oil issue.

It’s set during the First World War, in a scenario where the Confederacy maintained independence.

293 freetoken  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:24:47pm

The history of oil in Oklahoma.

294 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:02pm

re: #289 Aceofwhat?

54% of all statistics are made up

12% of all people know that.

295 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:19pm

re: #247 SanFranciscoZionist

I keep my head down about plenty, and I think that lots of others, left, right and center do as well. It’s not dishonestly, it’s about choosing the right topics for the party.

Personality counts a lot. In every board, some people are just more confrontational than others.

296 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:25:28pm

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Which side did they take in the civil war?

It wasn’t a state then.

297 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:26:25pm

re: #290 MandyManners

HOW’S IT GOING?

Great! It’s Friday and I’m about to open my first beer.

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:26:38pm

re: #285 The Shadow Do

Isn’t Vince Foster buried there?

No.

299 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:26:40pm

re: #287 MandyManners

Mighty fucking nice of you.

Thanks. I’m sure you feel the same about liberals. :)

300 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:26:59pm

re: #294 Varek Raith

12% of all people know that.

link?

//

301 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:27:00pm

re: #279 MandyManners

He’s accepted it. Well, he had no choice. I’m a mean mommie.

My parents suddenly pitched a fit. Yeah. As if they have a voice. I love them but, they have no idea what it’s like nowadays.

I’ve been organizing this summer’s EDUCATION-FROM-HELL VACATION the past few days.

Ugh. Just, ugh.

No, you are not a mean mommy. You are a mommy. And that means you will make the difficult, but right choices when you need to.

My parents pitched a fit about almost everything I ever did, until after my 2nd divorce, for some reason.

302 Linden Arden  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:27:08pm

It would be a great question for Leno’s ‘Jaywalking’.

Pearl Necklace? The chicks would not know.

303 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:27:23pm

re: #298 SanFranciscoZionist

No.

kidding

304 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:27:35pm

I had a great grandpa who walked from Kansas to OK for the land rush. He had a claim but could not do anything with the land. He ended up walking back to Kansas.

305 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:28:16pm

re: #297 NJDhockeyfan

Great! It’s Friday and I’m about to open my first beer.

Enjoy.

306 Ojoe  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:28:47pm

Obama is just as much white as he is black, ironically.

307 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:29:06pm

re: #248 prairiefire

Is Oklahoma “the south”? I wonder.

Not one freaking agent in OK.. I swear..Nationwide doesn’t exist there..I have to change to somebody else…One of several pain in the asses to move..
And..Think about it.. If my insurance agent (Nationwide) won’t insure you in Tornado Alley you are pretty much fucked…I figure my rates are going through the roof…There are folks from our office reporting severe Hail damage from 2 weeks ago…And I mean have you folks seen the Video’s?
Be brave Hoopster..Be Brave

308 Ojoe  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:29:52pm

re: #305 MandyManners

How many real men does it take to open a beer?

(someone else can answer this one) (WHACK)

309 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:30:39pm

re: #307 HoosierHoops

Not one freaking agent in OK.. I swear..Nationwide doesn’t exist there..I have to change to somebody else…One of several pain in the asses to move..
And..Think about it.. If my insurance agent (Nationwide) won’t insure you in Tornado Alley you are pretty much fucked…I figure my rates are going through the roof…There are folks from our office reporting severe Hail damage from 2 weeks ago…And I mean have you folks seen the Video’s?
Be brave Hoopster..Be Brave

Yes, be brave!
You will survive.
Heck, you might even enjoy it!
Your insurance is a very small piece of the total picture - don’t let it stress you out!

310 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:30:40pm

re: #306 Ojoe

Obama is just as much white as he is black, ironically.

Hasn’t traditionally worked like that in the United States.

That may start to change, I see a real difference in the way my biracial students ‘manage’ their identity from the way my classmates did, back in the late Triassic.

311 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:30:46pm

re: #276 NJDhockeyfan

I’m guessing I reside at the bottom of the list?

Not really.

312 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:31:22pm

re: #308 Ojoe

Is it in a can or keg?

313 Ojoe  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:31:44pm

re: #312 Firstinla

A can, the answer implies portability.

315 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:32:14pm

re: #310 SanFranciscoZionist

Hasn’t traditionally worked like that in the United States.

That may start to change, I see a real difference in the way my biracial students ‘manage’ their identity from the way my classmates did, back in the late Triassic.

As Obama said, (in America) you are what you look like…

yes he said that & I thought it to be accurate.

316 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:32:16pm

re: #305 MandyManners

Enjoy.

The Great Escape is on…love that movie.

317 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:32:33pm

re: #313 Ojoe

Okay…I guess: 12

318 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:32:59pm

re: #311 Nimed

Not really.

I’ll try harder.
/

319 Ojoe  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:33:25pm

re: #317 Firstinla

“None, it should be open when she brings it to you.”

I will take my whack now.

320 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:33:33pm

re: #306 Ojoe

Obama is just as much white as he is black, ironically.

Oh. Just so.

321 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:33:38pm

re: #312 Firstinla

Is it in a can or keg?

a can is just a wee keg no?

322 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:34:03pm

re: #292 SanFranciscoZionist

There’s an interesting alternate-history novel, “The Wild Blue And The Gray”, which touches on the OK oil issue.

It’s set during the First World War, in a scenario where the Confederacy maintained independence.

Ahh… Alternate history. How strongly would you recommend it?

323 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:34:05pm

re: #321 brookly red

a can is just a wee keg no?

A personal-sized keg.

324 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:34:39pm

re: #323 SanFranciscoZionist

A personal-sized keg.

for rugged individuals…

325 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:35:24pm

re: #324 brookly red

three kegs and I’m buzzed…not rugged enough, I guess.

326 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:35:46pm

re: #308 Ojoe

How many real men does it take to open a beer?

(someone else can answer this one) (WHACK)

This?

327 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:36:39pm

re: #322 Nimed

Ahh… Alternate history. How strongly would you recommend it?

It’s a very quick read, short novel, funny, walk-on appearances from everyone from Ho Chi Minh (who the Cherokee main character thinks is Indian at first meeting) to Patton to Hitler to Mata Hari. And William Faulkner. And Scarlett O’Hara’s daughter.

It’s hardly genius, but it’s fun, and can be read in an afternoon.

328 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:37:10pm

re: #325 Firstinla

three kegs and I’m buzzed…not rugged enough, I guess.

you need some pizza to soak it up…

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:37:13pm

re: #327 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s a very quick read, short novel, funny, walk-on appearances from everyone from Ho Chi Minh (who the Cherokee main character thinks is Indian at first meeting) to Patton to Hitler to Mata Hari. And William Faulkner. And Scarlett O’Hara’s daughter.

It’s hardly genius, but it’s fun, and can be read in an afternoon.

And Jelly Roll Morton.

330 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:37:14pm

re: #309 reine.de.tout

Yes, be brave!
You will survive.
Heck, you might even enjoy it!
Your insurance is a very small piece of the total picture - don’t let it stress you out!

LOL
So I call Nationwide.. you know Nationwide..
And tell them I’m moving.Please transfer my account for the Beemer…
We don’t have an office in Oklahoma..
But you are Nationwide
Not in Oklahoma
Can you believe it?

331 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:37:25pm

I have an extra old refrigerator. I was thinking about putting a tap through the door and keeping a keg inside.

332 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:38:16pm

re: #316 NJDhockeyfan

The Great Escape is on…love that movie.

Steve McQueen, he set many a young woman’s heart aflutter back in the day.

333 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:39:00pm

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

I have an extra old refrigerator. I was thinking about putting a tap through the door and keeping a keg inside.

My hubby had one of those statuesque appliances in his bachelor pad. There was a running tally in roman numerals written on the front of the door, marking the number of kegs.

334 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:39:01pm

re: #331 NJDhockeyfan

I have an extra old refrigerator. I was thinking about putting a tap through the door and keeping a keg inside.

bolt on the speakers & a shelf to keep the micro wave on and you are good to go.

335 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:40:08pm

re: #310 SanFranciscoZionist

Hasn’t traditionally worked like that in the United States.

That may start to change, I see a real difference in the way my biracial students ‘manage’ their identity from the way my classmates did, back in the late Triassic.

Well, most of your your racial identity is (was?) not your choice. When mixed race children were treated like African-Americans in the bad old days, they would naturally identify with them.

336 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:40:12pm

re: #92 Nimed

The past of LGF through the eyes of a newbie:
- Stalkers;
- IL92;
- Sharmuta;
- Cryptic references to the (good, bad or different) old days;
- mysterious morons registering at 1 a.m. EST and exploding in a burst of rage and self-pity;

Now tell me this doesn’t sound like Lost. Expecting to be transported to the days of disco any minute now…
/

Yeah, it was a hell of a party.

337 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:40:34pm

re: #185 brookly red

sad that you feel that you need to be dishonest to be accepted…

So I should tell you every single thought in my head and every single experience I’ve had, otherwise I’m dishonest?

Dude, there’s no way. NO WAY

338 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:40:57pm

re: #329 SanFranciscoZionist

And Jelly Roll Morton.

Ok, now I’m sold.

339 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:41:07pm

re: #334 brookly red

bolt on the speakers & a shelf to keep the micro wave on and you are good to go.

I could put it in my shed. I wouldn’t need to come in the house except for bathing.

340 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:41:54pm

re: #337 WindUpBird

So I should tell you every single thought in my head and every single experience I’ve had, otherwise I’m dishonest?

Dude, there’s no way. NO WAY

no for your own protection I suggest you do not do that :)

341 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:42:41pm

re: #337 WindUpBird

So I should tell you every single thought in my head and every single experience I’ve had, otherwise I’m dishonest?

Dude, there’s no way. NO WAY

Yeeesh…
My true, uncensored thoughts on religion would get me dinged to hell, possible banned.
:/

342 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:42:49pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

54 days last count…I am so going down south my friend…I’ll be working across the Street from OU soon

That’s a good location. Even better if you’re into college football. Saturday in the Fall must be much fun.

343 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:43:01pm

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

I could put it in my shed. I wouldn’t need to come in the house except for bathing.

which after a while won’t matter anyway :)

344 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:43:29pm

re: #336 Bagua

Yeah, it was a hell of a party.

Walter is Locke, right? It just makes sense, in spite of the differences in religiosity.

345 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:43:34pm

re: #337 WindUpBird

So I should tell you every single thought in my head and every single experience I’ve had, otherwise I’m dishonest?

Dude, there’s no way. NO WAY

i, for one, am happy to consider you honest without needing to hear all of the extraneous stuff, thankyouverymuch…

346 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:44:32pm

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

I could put it in my shed. I wouldn’t need to come in the house except for bathing.

Gotta garden hose?

347 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:45:14pm

re: #341 Varek Raith

Yeeesh…
My true, uncensored thoughts on religion would get me dinged to hell, possible banned.
:/

hell, it’s not even that…it takes me 10 idiotic thoughts just to whittle my way towards something halfway meaningful…

348 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:45:17pm

re: #337 WindUpBird

So I should tell you every single thought in my head and every single experience I’ve had, otherwise I’m dishonest?

Dude, there’s no way. NO WAY

People who draw monsters for a living get a pass.

349 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:45:29pm

re: #340 brookly red

no for your own protection I suggest you do not do that :)

I could be even MORE argued with on the internet!

But yeah, it’s silly to think that everyone here is 100% honest. Nobody is.

350 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:46:00pm

re: #336 Bagua

Yeah, it was a hell of a party.

*smooch*

351 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:46:03pm

re: #348 Nimed

People who draw monsters for a living get a pass.

I SAW SOMETHING

I THINK IT WAS A JABBERWOCK

352 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:46:56pm

re: #348 Nimed

People who draw monsters for a living get a pass.

i like where your head’s at…

353 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:47:08pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

I could be even MORE argued with on the internet!

But yeah, it’s silly to think that everyone here is 100% honest. Nobody is.

of course but like some people get the snark and others just think it’s all about them…

354 PT Barnum  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:47:10pm

re: #351 WindUpBird

I SAW SOMETHING

I THINK IT WAS A JABBERWOCK

Twas brillig and the slithy toves
did gire and gimble in the wabe
all mimsy were the borogroves
and the mome rath outgrabe

(from memory)

355 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:47:20pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

I could be even MORE argued with on the internet!

But yeah, it’s silly to think that everyone here is 100% honest. Nobody is.

i’m actually much hotter in real life/

356 PT Barnum  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

I could be even MORE argued with on the internet!

But yeah, it’s silly to think that everyone here is 100% honest. Nobody is.


but repression is 9/10ths of the flaw!

357 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:15pm

re: #355 Aceofwhat?

i’m actually much hotter in real life/

Big whoop.
I’m Mr. Universe.

358 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:23pm

Ha, Erick Son of Erick is still taking heat on his own blog for posting he had proof that the Nikkie Haley affair accusation is not true.
He’s got nothing, and there a many pissed off conservative followers now!

359 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:31pm

re: #349 WindUpBird

I could be even MORE argued with on the internet!

But yeah, it’s silly to think that everyone here is 100% honest. Nobody is.

I think we’re trying to be as honest as possible. I do assume that. I mean a lot of this is also redefining your own thoughts on various subjects. Maybe hearing an opinion you hadn’t contemplated.

360 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:38pm

re: #341 Varek Raith

Yeeesh…
My true, uncensored thoughts on religion would get me dinged to hell, possible banned.
:/

A good rule of thumb is to say only what you would say to someone’s face (ok, possibly a little more). Keeps you safe from The Temptations of Anonymity.

361 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:45pm

Sweet child of mine.


Youtube Video
362 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:48:57pm

re: #344 Nimed

Walter is Locke, right? It just makes sense, in spite of the differences in religiosity.

Nope. Walter is either Ben or Smokey, depending on his mood, don’t mess with him.

363 PT Barnum  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:49:35pm

re: #361 MandyManners

Sweet child of mine.

[Video]

Axl Rose, whose voice’s Indian name is Two Cats Fucking

364 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:49:49pm

re: #347 Aceofwhat?

hell, it’s not even that…it takes me 10 idiotic thoughts just to whittle my way towards something halfway meaningful…

Your avatar brought to mind a CA license plate I saw years ago.

NE1410S

365 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:50:01pm

re: #360 Nimed

A good rule of thumb is to say only what you would say to someone’s face (ok, possibly a little more). Keeps you safe from The Temptations of Anonymity.

That’s the thing. I would, and have, said that to people’s faces.
:)
For me, it’s best to keep my mouth mostly shut on the issue.

366 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:50:36pm

Bite me.

367 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:50:36pm

Aussie MP calls for Cat Stevens ban over Rushdie fatwa

SYDNEY — An Australian politician Friday called for the musician formerly known as Cat Stevens to be denied a visa because he once supported a “fatwa” against British author Salman Rushdie.

Conservative Victoria state parliamentarian Peter Kavanagh said Yusuf Islam, whose comeback tour reaches Australia next month, should not be issued a visa until he withdraws support for the 1989 edict.

Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini issued the religious decree calling for Muslims to kill Rushdie for alleged blasphemy in his book “The Satanic Verses”, and Kavanagh told Victoria’s parliament that Islam had endorsed it at the time.

“Although Yusuf now denies supporting attempts to murder Salman Rushdie, he is on record at the time for stating that he wanted to see Mr. Rushdie himself burn, not just an effigy of him, and he would like to have reported Mr. Rushdie’s whereabouts to those who were trying to murder him,” Kavanagh said.

368 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:51:07pm

re: #366 MandyManners

Bite me.

Who???

369 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:51:12pm

re: #357 Varek Raith

Big whoop.
I’m Mr. Universe.

I actually have never even been to Brooklyn & am just phising for sympathizers from our base outside Beijing…

370 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:51:24pm

re: #366 MandyManners

Bite me.

in bed

371 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:51:39pm

re: #364 Semper Fi

Your avatar brought to mind a CA license plate I saw years ago.

NE1410S

Nice! The pic is my Babolat…best racquet i’ve owned yet.

372 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:52:24pm

re: #369 brookly red

I actually have never even been to Brooklyn & am just phising for sympathizers from our base outside Beijing…

bullshit…most Chinese have better grammar than you/

373 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:52:28pm

re: #341 Varek Raith

Yeeesh…
My true, uncensored thoughts on religion would get me dinged to hell, possible banned.
:/

It’s like visiting my parents. There’s things I get drunk and let fly around my friends when we’re having fun and having beers at pubs, and those are often the things I don’t tell my parents. Because it would Be Bad. LGF is sorrrta like that.

“Hey mom! I totally was at [redacted] convention and I was in a room party wearing [redacted] and this guy showed up with [redacted redacted] and we [redacted] and we were so [redacted] it was FUCKING GNARLY”

Yuh no. :D

374 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:53:26pm

re: #363 PT Barnum

Axl Rose, whose voice’s Indian name is Two Cats Fucking

I like G’n R! Yes, even Chinese Democracy!

:(

375 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:54:10pm

re: #332 The Shadow Do

Steve McQueen, he set many a young woman’s heart aflutter back in the day.

My wife, who is a home care nurse, had a patient who was a Canadian bomber pilot in WWII. He was shot down and was in that same POW camp. He took part in digging one of the tunnels. How cool is that?

376 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:54:13pm

Evening all!

377 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:55:02pm

re: #358 prairiefire

Ha, Erick Son of Erick is still taking heat on his own blog for posting he had proof that the Nikkie Haley affair accusation is not true.
He’s got nothing, and there a many pissed off conservative followers now!

it’s funny because they rely on him as a source

Which is like relying on the Weekly World News as a source :D

378 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:55:14pm

re: #372 Aceofwhat?

bullshit…most Chinese have better grammar than you/

we have instructors from your teachers union, all your blog site belong to us.

379 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:55:31pm

re: #362 Bagua

Nope. Walter is either Ben or Smokey, depending on his mood, don’t mess with him.

Walter!
His understanding of Scripture is deep..He pisses me off!
/He is a great guy

380 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #371 Aceofwhat?

Nice! The pic is my Babolat…best racquet i’ve owned yet.

Thanks. I’ve heard that name before.

381 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:55:59pm

re: #378 brookly red

we have instructors from your teachers union, all your blog site are belong to us.

Fail.
;)

382 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:56:03pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

Aussie MP calls for Cat Stevens ban over Rushdie fatwa

That’s what I call a very slow negative feedback loop. (And I recall seeing the video of Y.I. confirming his support for the fatwa, on YouTube.)

383 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:56:14pm

re: #332 The Shadow Do

Steve McQueen, he set many a young woman’s heart aflutter back in the day.

You ought to see what doctors are doing with Cardiac Ablation these days. Clear that flutter right up!

384 PT Barnum  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:56:24pm

re: #374 WindUpBird

I like G’n R! Yes, even Chinese Democracy!

:(

Sorry, between him and the guy who was the lead singer for Motley Crue, you could produce several litters of kittens.

385 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:56:32pm

re: #374 WindUpBird

I like G’n R! Yes, even Chinese Democracy!

:(

I saw GnR at Giants Stadium with Deep Purple & Aerosmith.

386 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:56:57pm

re: #380 Semper Fi

Thanks. I’ve heard that name before.

Roddick and Nadal use Babolat…i don’t use either of theirs, but they’re all cut from the same cloth.

387 Semper Fi  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:57:55pm

I’ll finish my chianti on my favorite chair.
Have a good one lizards.

388 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:58:03pm

re: #386 Aceofwhat?

Roddick and Nadal use Babolat…i don’t use either of theirs, but they’re all cut from the same cloth.

Hi Ace Boston is kicking butt!

389 The Shadow Do  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:58:33pm

re: #375 NJDhockeyfan

My wife, who is a home care nurse, had a patient who was a Canadian bomber pilot in WWII. He was shot down and was in that same POW camp. He took part in digging one of the tunnels. How cool is that?

very cool

390 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:58:49pm

re: #367 NJDhockeyfan

Aussie MP calls for Cat Stevens ban over Rushdie fatwa

Youtube Video
391 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:59:11pm

I just got a mailer from an ebay store that sells platform moon boots

My junk mail rules :D

392 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 7:59:37pm

re: #57 HoosierHoops

Aloe Vera. Do you own any? Buy it tomorrow. Gooey, but the best for a sunburn.*waves*

393 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:00:16pm

re: #391 WindUpBird

I just got a mailer from an ebay store that sells platform moon boots

My junk mail rules :D

so what colors did you order?

394 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:00:34pm

I see there is a sweep of the bottom 10. Heh. And evening Honcos.

395 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:01:03pm

re: #394 Cannadian Club Akbar

I see there is a sweep of the bottom 10. Heh. And evening Honcos.

He’s a one issue man/woman!

396 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:01:14pm

re: #388 HoosierHoops

Hi Ace Boston is kicking butt!

yep, loving it - we’re over at Stanley Sea’s BBall thread, all are welcome to join us!

397 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:01:49pm

re: #392 Floral Giraffe

Aloe Vera. Do you own any? Buy it tomorrow. Gooey, but the best for a sunburn.*waves*

I have about 3 aloe vera plants near my front door.

398 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:02:00pm

re: #392 Floral Giraffe

Aloe Vera. Do you own any? Buy it tomorrow. Gooey, but the best for a sunburn.*waves*

Hi Friend! I owe you an email…Talk to you in the morning!

399 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:02:44pm

re: #384 PT Barnum

Sorry, between him and the guy who was the lead singer for Motley Crue, you could produce several litters of kittens.

Vince Neil. ;-)

But really, if you want ear-splitting shreiking, there ain’t nothing that beats Cinderella:

Youtube Video
400 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:03:01pm

I got my cookbook today!
HOORAY!
Thanks to all of the contributing Lizards.
Jaunte’s art is spectacular!

Can’t wait to look for dinner inspirations!

401 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:03:18pm

re: #393 brookly red

so what colors did you order?

I have big black ones that make me about 6’7” :D

402 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:03:48pm

re: #398 HoosierHoops

Bought one today, disregard.
You slacker!
/ on the slacker part

403 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:04:46pm

re: #397 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have about 3 aloe vera plants near my front door.

You cut the leaf & apply the ooze to your sunburn.
Yes, it’s kinda gross, but if the sunburn hurts, this will stop the hurt.

404 MandyManners  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:05:34pm

Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave?

Youtube Video
405 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:05:38pm

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

You cut the leaf & apply the ooze to your sunburn.
Yes, it’s kinda gross, but if the sunburn hurts, this will stop the hurt.

I know. I live in Florida.:)

406 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:05:40pm

re: #401 WindUpBird

I have big black ones that make me about 6’7” :D

about the same hight as big bird…

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:06:50pm

re: #404 MandyManners

I had season tix in that stadium.

408 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:07:22pm

re: #401 WindUpBird

WUB, where did you get the latest High On Fire CD?

I noticed that Best Buy has an “exclusive” release with four bonus tracks. Two studio, two live.

409 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:07:24pm

re: #394 Cannadian Club Akbar

I see there is a sweep of the bottom 10. Heh. And evening Honcos.

Drat, I couldn’t get back to that conversation. I hate when that happens.

410 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:07:25pm

re: #406 brookly red

about the same hight as big bird…

Her nic is now BigWindUpBird?
/

411 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:07:49pm

re: #406 brookly red

about the same hight as big bird…

less yellow though ^^

412 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:08:27pm

I was supposed to do something responsible tonight… just can’t remember what it was.

413 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:08:32pm

re: #402 Floral Giraffe

Bought one today, disregard.
You slacker!
/ on the slacker part

I am completely fried..I am burnt.. I should have put on suntan lotion..
I am stupid and just about every part of me…(Not every part) is red burnt..
I messed up Floral…I really did…My neck alone is 6000 degrees….

414 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:08:45pm

re: #411 WindUpBird

less yellow though ^^

I’ll pray for your jaundice.
//

415 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:08:51pm

re: #408 Slumbering Behemoth

WUB, where did you get the latest High On Fire CD?

I noticed that Best Buy has an “exclusive” release with four bonus tracks. Two studio, two live.

IIRC, I got it on my emusic subscription, so I didn’t get the exclusive goodies. Though emusic might release the bonus tracks on a single, that often happens.

416 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:09:25pm

re: #410 Cannadian Club Akbar

Her nic is now BigWindUpBird?
/

I’M STILL A GUY

417 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:09:32pm

re: #403 Floral Giraffe

You cut the leaf & apply the ooze to your sunburn.
Yes, it’s kinda gross, but if the sunburn hurts, this will stop the hurt.

I got to tell you Nivea, ultra moisturizing lotion is THE best for sunburns. Apply liberally and the burn will be gone in the morning.

418 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:09:58pm

re: #413 HoosierHoops

Cool, not warm, not cold shower will help. LOTS of lotion.
Good luck sleeping tonight.

419 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:10:15pm

re: #416 WindUpBird

I’M STILL A GUY

Sorry!! The hip boot part threw me. Are you Gene Simmons?
/

420 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:10:29pm

re: #412 brookly red

I was supposed to do something responsible tonight… just can’t remember what it was.

have another beverage while you’re mulling it over…

421 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:10:52pm

re: #419 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sorry!! The hip boot part threw me. Are you Gene Simmons?
/

98% of women know who Gene Simmons is.

422 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:11:12pm

re: #416 WindUpBird

I’M STILL A GUY

Gender neutral names, dude. I’ve managed to get all of them wrong.

423 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:11:15pm

re: #420 Aceofwhat?

have another beverage while you’re mulling it over…

I will. Oh, you weren’t talking to me.
/

424 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:11:25pm

re: #412 brookly red

I was supposed to do something responsible tonight… just can’t remember what it was.

Personal property or real estate tax?

425 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:11:32pm

re: #401 WindUpBird

I have big black ones that make me about 6’7” :D

Abby Sciuto boots!

*whap* Pay attention, probie!

426 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:11:51pm

re: #421 marjoriemoon

98% of women know who Gene Simmons is.

He did set the bar pretty high…

427 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #418 Floral Giraffe

Cool, not warm, not cold shower will help. LOTS of lotion.
Good luck sleeping tonight.

Had a blast at the Track today…Just a Blast.. I don’t care!
*wink*

428 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:12:19pm

re: #423 Cannadian Club Akbar

I will. Oh, you weren’t talking to me.
/

i figure the guy with the whiskey nic will join me without too much cajoling…

429 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:12:38pm

re: #419 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sorry!! The hip boot part threw me. Are you Gene Simmons?
/

haha and I have actual high heels too :D I’ve gotten a couple KISS comments stomping around, but it’s at sci-fi cons, so everyone’s wearing zany stuff. They look sorta like this Image: DEMONIA-SWI220-B-PU.jpg

430 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:12:48pm

re: #425 SteveC

Abby Sciuto boots!

*whap* Pay attention, probie McProbie!

FTFY

431 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:12:49pm

re: #426 Cannadian Club Akbar

He did set the bar pretty high…

I bet he knows what a pearl necklace is, too.

432 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:13:24pm

re: #429 WindUpBird

Holy Shit!!

433 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:13:34pm

re: #424 abolitionist

Personal property or real estate tax?

something about the airport I think…

434 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:13:41pm

re: #421 marjoriemoon

98% of women know who Gene Simmons is.

and 0% know the album Music From The Elder :D

435 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:14:26pm

re: #421 marjoriemoon

98% of women over 40 know who Gene Simmons is.

436 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:14:37pm

re: #432 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holy Shit!!

They’re fun! I can’t dance in them, though.

437 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:15:12pm

re: #399 WindUpBird

Vince Neil. ;-)

But really, if you want ear-splitting shreiking, there ain’t nothing that beats Cinderella:

Nothing?

Youtube Video
438 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:15:16pm

re: #436 WindUpBird

They’re fun! I can’t dance in them, though.

How do you run from the cops in them?
/

439 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #435 brookly red

Oh but he does reality TV now! Actually, I used to watch it. It was the only one I ever watched with any regularity.

440 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:17:26pm

re: #437 NJDhockeyfan

Well, I was staying within the parameters of hair metal :D

441 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:17:30pm

re: #438 Cannadian Club Akbar

How do you run from the cops in them?
/

doesn’t have to run…the cops are flat on the ground laughing their asses off…WUB can just stumble away

442 HoosierHoops  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:17:34pm

Boston Wins!

443 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:17:35pm

re: #415 WindUpBird

Sorry. One studio, “Mystery of Helm”. Two live, “Eyes and Teeth” and “Cometh Down Hessian”.

Also, have you seen this? Check out the list of musicians on this project. Fuck.

444 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:17:51pm

Low hanging fruit, easy picking for lefties….
Rand Paul Wants To Change The Constitution To Not Give Citizenship To “Anchor Babies”

Youtube Video

Of course a quick google turns up plenty of countries who use the same rule.

445 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:18:06pm

re: #441 Firstinla

doesn’t have to run…the cops are flat on the ground laughing their asses off…WUB can just stumble away

The real joke is I am by no means the weirdest dressed thing at these events :D

446 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:18:23pm

Hard butter, magic, balls, and jiggling jello. What the heck is going on up there?

//

447 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:18:41pm

re: #439 marjoriemoon

Oh but he does reality TV now! Actually, I used to watch it. It was the only one I ever watched with any regularity.

I guess that is why I missed it, I don’t TV, but hey don’t let me stop you.

448 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:19:32pm

re: #443 Slumbering Behemoth

The Roadrunner thing! I have seen that, I keep meaning to get it.

There’s also that supergroup project coming soon that’s Opeth’s Akerfelt+ Steven Wilson + Mike Portnoy, but you gotta love prog-rock to be into it.

449 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:20:37pm

re: #429 WindUpBird

haha and I have actual high heels too :D I’ve gotten a couple KISS comments stomping around, but it’s at sci-fi cons, so everyone’s wearing zany stuff. They look sorta like this Image: DEMONIA-SWI220-B-PU.jpg

Sigh, I wish I wasn’t so old and foggy for dress up conventions. Maybe in 20 years I can go as a Crone or Marie Dressler.

450 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:21:26pm

re: #446 Gus 802

Hard butter, magic, balls, and jiggling jello. What the heck is going on up there?

//

It’s one hell of a party, man! Come on up!

451 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:21:37pm

Note to self. Retract some of the invites to the BBQ.
/

452 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:21:45pm

re: #449 prairiefire

Sigh, I wish I wasn’t so old and foggy for dress up conventions. Maybe in 20 years I can go as a Crone or Marie Dressler.

Eh, half my friends do full coverage costumes anyway. could be anyone from age 18 to age 80 in the outfit :D

453 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:22:07pm

re: #444 Killgore Trout

Low hanging fruit, easy picking for lefties…
Rand Paul Wants To Change The Constitution To Not Give Citizenship To “Anchor Babies”

[Video]

Of course a quick google turns up plenty of countries who use the same rule.

Put me down on the side of the constitution.

454 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:22:14pm

North Korea accuses South of faking warship sinking

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea’s most powerful state organ said Friday that South Korea faked the sinking of one of its own warships and warned that the Korean peninsula was edging ever closer to war.

Pyongyang has made similar statements through state media since a multinational probe said last week that a torpedo fired by a North Korean submarine downed the vessel, killing 46 sailors in the worst attack on the South Korean military since the Korean War.

This time, though, the comments were delivered at an extremely rare press conference in the North Korean capital presided over by a uniformed official with the secretive country’s National Defense Commission, which is headed by leader Kim Jong Il.

North Korea has denied any responsibility and warned that retaliation or punishment for the sinking would mean armed conflict. So far, it has issued various threats, including one to cut off South Korean access to a joint industrial zone in the North and wage “all-out war.”

South Korea’s military has reported no unusual moves by the North’s troops.

455 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:22:40pm

re: #448 WindUpBird

I’m into nearly everything. I’ve grown into broad musical tastes.

The Roadrunner thing? I had to hear about it from the neighbor kid.
/sucks being an aging hessian without a single peer that appreciates Metal

456 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:22:46pm

re: #453 swamprat

Put me down on the side of the constitution.

Communist!
/

457 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:22:46pm

re: #444 Killgore Trout

Low hanging fruit, easy picking for lefties…
Rand Paul Wants To Change The Constitution To Not Give Citizenship To “Anchor Babies”

[Video]Of course a quick google turns up plenty of countries who use the same rule.

Um… why is Rand Paul all of a sudden a surprise to Republicans? They didn’t know who they were voting for?

458 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:23:16pm

re: #445 WindUpBird

The real joke is I am by no means the weirdest dressed thing at these events :D

At a recent conference I walked into the wrong session room and found myself surrounded by partiers who looked like rejects from a Felini movie. Never did find out what the group was or what they were up to. No one asked me to leave so I must have fit in.

459 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:23:28pm

re: #452 WindUpBird

Eh, half my friends do full coverage costumes anyway. could be anyone from age 18 to age 80 in the outfit :D

Yeah, “full coverage costume.” I’ll keep that in mind. ; )

460 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:23:34pm

re: #453 swamprat

Put me down on the side of the constitution.

Port or starboard side?

461 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:24:14pm

re: #459 prairiefire

Yeah, “full coverage costume.” I’ll keep that in mind. ; )

sounds like a burka to me…

462 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:24:19pm

re: #457 marjoriemoon

Um… why is Rand Paul all of a sudden a surprise to Republicans? They didn’t know who they were voting for?

My guess is they thought he’d get a pass from the MSM like his father. I think the Republicans/Tea Partiers knew what they were getting but they thought they could sneak him through.

463 prairiefire  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:24:39pm

re: #457 marjoriemoon

What a sweet white tear drop shape on your kitty avatar’s face!

464 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:24:51pm

re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth

I’m into nearly everything. I’ve grown into broad musical tastes.

The Roadrunner thing? I had to hear about it from the neighbor kid.
/sucks being an aging hessian without a single peer that appreciates Metal

I just get all my metal tips from the Metalsucks blog, or just randomly clicking around the intertubes on peoples’ lists and such. :D

465 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:25:02pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

That got a chuckle. We live in strange times.

466 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:25:24pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

Your gardening section in the new cookbook is impressive!
Thank you!

467 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:25:27pm

Friday night is pizza & movie night for me, her, and the youngsters. Kids are in bed now, 2.5 hours past their bedtime, and I’m about to have a little more pizza then kick off myself. LGF got a FNDT tonight?

468 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:25:41pm

re: #460 Gus 802


Starboard.

469 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:25:58pm

re: #461 brookly red

sounds like a burka to me…

Not really!

470 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:27:06pm

re: #462 Killgore Trout

My guess is they thought he’d get a pass from the MSM like his father. I think the Republicans/Tea Partiers knew what they were getting but they thought they could sneak him through.

and Ron Paul gets more of a pass because he’s been in congress so long. They’re USED to him!

471 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:27:36pm

re: #457 marjoriemoon

Um… why is Rand Paul all of a sudden a surprise to Republicans? They didn’t know who they were voting for?

Tea Party effect. Like many on both sides of the aisle, they vote based on bumper sticker slogans while doing little to no research on the candidates or issues themselves.

472 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:27:39pm

re: #467 cliffster

Friday night is pizza & movie night for me, her, and the youngsters. Kids are in bed now, 2.5 hours past their bedtime, and I’m about to have a little more pizza then kick off myself. LGF got a FNDT tonight?

Yes, once you start drinking.

473 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:27:58pm

From Dnar Luap to blue tigers…is this a great blog or what!!

474 avanti  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:28:17pm

Not sure if is the same leak at a different angle, but lots of mud not going down the pipe.

BP Top Kill.

475 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:28:56pm

re: #463 prairiefire

What a sweet white tear drop shape on your kitty avatar’s face!

Awww you noticed :)

476 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:29:03pm

re: #474 avanti

Not sure if is the same leak at a different angle, but lots of mud not going down the pipe.

BP Top Kill.

I thought they switched to a junk shot.

477 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:29:12pm

re: #473 Firstinla

From Dnar Luap to blue tigers…is this a great blog or what!!

Never a dull moment!

478 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:29:21pm

re: #454 NJDhockeyfan

Nobody’s surprised about this one, are they?

479 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:29:59pm

Keep bashing my home city, Dale Robertson, you fuckhead. Coupled with the ugly racism of your post, you just keep making Obama look better and better compared to you.

480 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:30:31pm

re: #469 WindUpBird

Not really!

Three questions…

How do you hunt it?
How do you skin it?
How do you cook it?
/

481 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:30:37pm

re: #473 Firstinla

From Dnar Luap to blue tigers…is this a great blog or what!!

a blue tiger sounds like a drink with a paper umbrella…

482 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:30:50pm

re: #472 Floral Giraffe

Yes, once you start drinking.

ok, you got me. little more pizza, little more porter…

483 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:31:48pm

re: #481 brookly red

a blue tiger sounds like a drink with a paper umbrella…

With Blue Cureco (sp?) in it.

484 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:32:06pm

re: #483 Cannadian Club Akbar

With Blue Cureco (sp?) in it.

Or Chambord.

485 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:32:08pm

re: #479 Dark_Falcon

You feeling better yet?

486 avanti  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:32:38pm

re: #476 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they switched to a junk shot.

BP is not sharing much about what they are doing, when they stop pumping mud and the rest. Today, cleaning up the beach just before the POTUS’s visit.

487 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:32:39pm

re: #469 WindUpBird

Not really!


Blog weather is furry with a chance of shoe-love. Politi-cast: slightly socky. Partisan outbursts still possible.

488 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:32:56pm

re: #483 Cannadian Club Akbar

With Blue Cureco (sp?) in it.

not even close. good greef, cannadian

489 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:33:52pm

re: #471 Slumbering Behemoth

Tea Party effect. Like many on both sides of the aisle, they vote based on bumper sticker slogans while doing little to no research on the candidates or issues themselves.

I don’t know. I think they either don’t care about these issues or agree with him on these issues. The civil rights issues.

I don’t recall Ron Paul making significant statements about the civil rights act. He was more about taxes, the fed, gold, etc. at least that’s what seemed to be reported. Oh yea, and doesn’t care about the war on reefer.

490 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #485 Floral Giraffe

You feeling better yet?

Yes. I’m still coughing but my breathing is better and the antibiotics are doing their work. By Tuesday I expect to be at 100%.

491 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:35:06pm

When Germ Warfare Happened

These attacks, orchestrated by Japan’s infamous Unit 731 between 1932 and 1945, are the only documented mass use of germ weapons in modern times. Scholars say that we will never know exactly how many were killed. Sheldon H. Harris, the late American historian, estimated in a pioneering work that between 10,000 and 12,000 Chinese prisoners perished in the bloodcurdling experiments that Unit 731 performed in Japanese-occupied Manchuria. Another 300,000 to 500,000 civilians died, he wrote, as a result of Japan’s massive germ assaults on more than 70 Chinese cities and towns. China itself has disclosed no official tally. In fact, for many years, Japan’s use of biological weapons in China was largely forgotten. Only recently has a resurgent China begun to remind Japan—and the world—of the atrocities.

It’s a lengthy article by Judith Miller. Very interesting—including this part:

In America, the historical amnesia has a Cold War source, argues Jeanne Guillemin, a political analyst at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. After World War II ended, the United States and the Soviet Union sought information about Japanese germ experimentation for their own covert bioweapons efforts. In 1947, American officials secretly agreed to grant immunity from war-crimes prosecution to the head of Japan’s program, Major General Shiro Ishii, and to 18 other biowarfare scientists in exchange for intelligence. As Harris recounted, Japanese pathologists gave U.S. officials some 8,000 slides of human tissues and blood samples taken from autopsied victims, as well as knowledge about the warheads and bombs that Japan had designed to spread its killer germs.

While several American military historians and scientists have downplayed the value of the Japanese data, a U.S. military document unearthed by Guillemin called the information “of the highest intelligence value,” though before it underwent full analysis. The Japanese program had to remain secret, another military document concluded (in diplomatic understatement), “to protect the interests of the United States and to guard against embarrassment.” Only after America and the Soviet Union (the Soviets only putatively) ended their offensive germ-weapons programs in the late 1960s and signed a treaty banning pathogens as offensive weapons in 1972 did significant amounts of evidence about the arrangement become public.

And we thought we knew most of the horrors of WWII already.

492 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:36:16pm

re: #491 BryanS

Wouldn’t Sadaam gassing the Kurds be about the same thing?

493 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:36:55pm

re: #473 Firstinla

From Dnar Luap to blue tigers…is this a great blog or what!!

to germ warfare…

494 Firstinla  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:37:39pm

re: #492 marjoriemoon

Or the US government giving smallpox infested blankets to Native Americans years ago?

495 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:37:49pm

re: #491 BryanS

When Germ Warfare Happened

And we thought we knew most of the horrors of WWII already.

Last night I said something about China not being an expansionistic power, and content to spread economically rather than politically or militarily.

There is, I suspect, one small exception.

496 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:00pm

re: #492 marjoriemoon

Wouldn’t Sadaam gassing the Kurds be about the same thing?

There is a special on NatGeo Sunday night. The FBI guy who interviewed Saddam and tried to find out about his WMD’s.

497 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:16pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

Three questions…

How do you hunt it?
63 Jaguar XKE, mint
How do you skin it?
Good jokes, music, top-line liquor
How do you cook it?

No need, It’s plenty hot inside.


/have yourself a furry little christmas, gift is wrapped inside…

498 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:21pm

re: #492 marjoriemoon

Wouldn’t Sadaam gassing the Kurds be about the same thing?

or handing out blankets used by small pox victims…

or pissing in the well…

499 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:37pm

re: #487 swamprat

What I REALLY want, are a pair of New Rocks: Image: nr_272black.jpg

SPEN-DEEE :(

500 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:39pm

re: #492 marjoriemoon

Wouldn’t Sadaam gassing the Kurds be about the same thing?

Just as bad, I think, yes.

501 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:44pm

‘Lizard man’ charged with killing three prostitutes after river remains identified as missing sex worker

A 40-YEAR-OLD student dubbed “Lizard Man” will appear in court today charged with the murder of three prostitutes.

Psychology graduate Stephen Griffiths, who was studying for a PhD in criminology, was charged with the killings hours after remains found dumped in a river were identified as those of Suzanne Blamires, 36.

He is also accused of murdering Shelley Armitage, 31, who has been missing since April 26, and Susan Rushworth, 43, who was last seen in June last year.

Griffiths, a former public schoolboy believed to work as a van driver, was arrested by armed police at his flat in the heart of Bradford’s red light district on Monday.

Suzanne had been missing from her home since last Friday and the inquiry took a gruesome twist on Tuesday.

A member of the public saw human remains floating in the River Aire in Shipley about five miles from Bradford.

It is believed a head was found inside a rucksack on the riverbank.

All the remains found are those of Suzanne and there has been no trace of the other missing women.

One of Griffiths’s neighbours said yesterday that other residents called him “Lizard Man” because he walked his pet reptiles on leads around the block of flats, a converted mill.

Others described him as looking like “an ageing Goth”.

502 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:38:50pm

re: #491 BryanS

When Germ Warfare Happened

And we thought we knew most of the horrors of WWII already.

I knew about this one, but not in such detail. Our decision to pardon Gen. Ishii was a poor one. He should have been forced to provide details of his actions on pain of a hanging with no drop. Japan was horrific in its attempts to subdue China, and China does not forget it. Nor should they.

503 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:40:24pm

Rest in peace, Mr Coleman. Sorry your countrymen made such a mockery of you. Karma’s a bitch, though…

504 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:41:15pm

re: #501 NJDhockeyfan

‘Lizard man’ charged with killing three prostitutes after river remains identified as missing sex worker

He’s no LGF lizard, that’s for sure. And it’s a pity the UK doesn’t have Capital Punishment, because that man should be executed for his crimes should he be found guilty.

505 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:42:11pm

re: #495 Renaissance_Man

Last night I said something about China not being an expansionistic power, and content to spread economically rather than politically or militarily.

There is, I suspect, one small exception.

There is a reason every Asian country still resents the Japanese. This ranks right up there with their Ear Mound Monument, consisting of a mound of ears collected from the dead in Korean peninsula conquests from the late 1500s.

506 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:43:07pm

re: #480 Slumbering Behemoth

Three questions…

How do you hunt it?
Long Island Iced Tea usually works as good bait.
How do you skin it?
Three long islands, and it skins itself.
How do you cook it?
Pretend it’s sushi. Raw is just fine.

507 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:43:55pm

re: #499 WindUpBird

What I REALLY want, are a pair of New Rocks: Image: nr_272black.jpg

SPEN-DEEE :(

Now those are some nice clinic defense boots.

508 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:44:01pm

re: #503 cliffster

Rest in peace, Mr Coleman. Sorry your countrymen made such a mockery of you. Karma’s a bitch, though…

Huh?

509 Renaissance_Man  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:44:34pm

re: #505 BryanS

There is a reason every Asian country still resents the Japanese. This ranks right up there with their Ear Mound Monument, consisting of a mound of ears collected from the dead in Korean peninsula conquests from the late 1500s.

At the risk of sounding insensitive to the horror of the Holocaust, I personally think there’s a case to be made that Nazi Germany was not the most vile of the Axis powers.

510 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:44:50pm

re: #503 cliffster

Rest in peace, Mr Coleman. Sorry your countrymen made such a mockery of you. Karma’s a bitch, though…

NPR had an excellent tribute today.

I watched his show daily as a kid home from school. He really got a raw deal in life imo.

511 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:45:36pm

re: #496 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is a special on NatGeo Sunday night. The FBI guy who interviewed Saddam and tried to find out about his WMD’s.

FBI? or the weapon’s inspector, David Kaye.

I believe it was in 1999, PBS did a documentary on what Hussein had or didn’t. They followed the weapon’s inspectors around. There was a lot of BS going on, of course. The inspectors would wait for hours to get signed orders to inspect a plant. They’d finally get the orders and when they’d get to the plant, the guards wouldn’t let them pass. In one scene, you see the inspectors arguing and showing their paperwork while these huge trucks go tearing down these gravel roads. These special trucks that carry plutonium. So the inspectors all jump into their jeeps and go flying after them. It was a cat and mouse game.

They did get to see some things, but what they never got to see, and what concerned them, was the waste. Where was he putting the waste. Well now we know, there wasn’t any.

Anyway, David Kaye at that time, 1999-2000, said they didn’t know what he had.

It starts here:
[Link: www.pbs.org…]
But PBS has a whole Iraq series that’s very good.

512 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:46:14pm

re: #474 avanti

Not sure if is the same leak at a different angle, but lots of mud not going down the pipe.

BP Top Kill.

Those are the baby leaks on top of the stack. 15% of the total leak. The junk shot doesn’t seam to have bunged up the BOP as planned.

514 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:46:39pm

re: #511 marjoriemoon

The NatGeo promo said it was an FBI interrogator.

515 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:46:52pm

re: #500 BryanS

Just as bad, I think, yes.

I was just curious about “the only documented” as stated in that article. Granted, it was honorific, but not the only.

516 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:46:57pm

re: #510 Stanley Sea

NPR had an excellent tribute today.

I watched his show daily as a kid home from school. He really got a raw deal in life imo.

The bike shop guy!

I watched me a lotta Diff’rent Strokes.

And the new kid on the final season, Sam? The little redhead? I saw him live, he was the frontman for a band of kids called Bad4Good that played crazy hair rock, who were opening for Joe Satriani :D

517 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:47:16pm

re: #509 Renaissance_Man

At the risk of sounding insensitive to the horror of the Holocaust, I personally think there’s a case to be made that Nazi Germany was not the most vile of the Axis powers.

There was plenty of evil to go around those days—including one of the allies in Russia. By modern standards, our prosecution of the war would be considered criminal.

518 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:47:30pm

re: #514 Cannadian Club Akbar

The NatGeo promo said it was an FBI interrogator.

When is it on? I never know what my channels are now anyway :p

519 Killgore Trout  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:47:38pm

re: #466 Floral Giraffe

Your gardening section in the new cookbook is impressive!
Thank you!

Thank you very much.

520 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:47:42pm

re: #489 marjoriemoon

I don’t know. I think they either don’t care about these issues or agree with him on these issues. The civil rights issues.

This is anecdotal of course, but it has been my sad experience that most folks (again, on both sides of the aisle) do not know anything about those issues simply because they do not take the time to educate themselves on those issues.

Much like those who decry the validity of certain scientific theories, most people seem to prefer to have their opinions fed to them by their favorite pastors talk show hosts rather than do any actual research themselves.

521 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:47:48pm

re: #502 Dark_Falcon

No. You either execute a man, or you don’t.

This may strike people as hypocritical of me, because of my tolerance of so-called “enhanced interrogation techniques”, but America should not kill to torture.
Our Constitution forbids “cruel and unusual punishment”. And though he was not an American citizen, I “list to port” on this issue.

522 Aceofwhat?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:48:00pm

good night, good people-

523 brookly red  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:48:10pm

time to go out and play…

have fun folks.

524 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:48:17pm

re: #518 marjoriemoon

When is it on? I never know what my channels are now anyway :p

I think Sunday night at 10.

525 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:48:42pm

re: #502 Dark_Falcon

I knew about this one, but not in such detail. Our decision to pardon Gen. Ishii was a poor one. He should have been forced to provide details of his actions on pain of a hanging with no drop. Japan was horrific in its attempts to subdue China, and China does not forget it. Nor should they.

As is often the case, the US acts as Japan’s military, and is the only reason there is relative peace between Japan and all her nearby neighbors.

526 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:49:35pm

re: #476 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they switched to a junk shot.

They’ve been shooting it in. And then it shoots out the gaping holes.

Red Suit Guy will become an internet star.

527 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:49:51pm

re: #513 SteveC

State and Local tax burden as percentage of state income

Ah, New York, New York. The city so nice they… tax you twice? That work?

528 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:49:52pm

re: #512 Bagua

Those are the baby leaks on top of the stack. 15% of the total leak. The junk shot doesn’t seam to have bunged up the BOP as planned.

We knew the junk shot wasn’t going to work (I’m waiting desperately to be proved wrong, by the way). They tried this in 1979 on the Ixtoc well in 160 feet of water and it didn’t work.

529 avanti  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:49:58pm

re: #512 Bagua

Those are the baby leaks on top of the stack. 15% of the total leak. The junk shot doesn’t seam to have bunged up the BOP as planned.

Thanks for that, just looks like a big deal in the video, and they spend a lot of time looking at it.

530 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:50:14pm

re: #510 Stanley Sea

NPR had an excellent tribute today.

I watched his show daily as a kid home from school. He really got a raw deal in life imo.

yeah - understatement really. These things give me a reason to appreciate the normal things I take for granted.

531 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:50:40pm

I’m sorry, here is the link I meant to post.

[Link: www.pbs.org…]

Read the Kurds story and the interview section.

532 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:51:06pm

re: #515 marjoriemoon

I was just curious about “the only documented” as stated in that article. Granted, it was honorific, but not the only.

Ahh, but Sadam used chemical weapons. I think this still meets the distinction of the only mass deployed germ warfare.

533 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:51:28pm

re: #516 WindUpBird

The bike shop guy!

I watched me a lotta Diff’rent Strokes.

And the new kid on the final season, Sam? The little redhead? I saw him live, he was the frontman for a band of kids called Bad4Good that played crazy hair rock, who were opening for Joe Satriani :D

wow!

The NPR thing said that he was always bummed because his age on the show was 5 years younger than he really was.

534 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:52:02pm

re: #515 marjoriemoon

I was just curious about “the only documented” as stated in that article. Granted, it was honorific, but not the only.

Gah!! Please note that I meant “horrific”. Spell check gone mad!

535 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:52:22pm

Maybe I’ve been watching too much sci fi about time warps and stuff, but I was looking at the new headlines list at Malkin’s HA site, and noticed something strange about the main post headlines —they are all dated April 29, 2010.

I wonder how long it’s been that way, and will anyone there notice.

536 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:52:50pm

re: #528 darthstar

We knew the junk shot wasn’t going to work (I’m waiting desperately to be proved wrong, by the way). They tried this in 1979 on the Ixtoc well in 160 feet of water and it didn’t work.

Well, hell. Let’s just try that again from 5800 feet away, we’re bound to nail it this time.

///

537 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:53:01pm

re: #515 marjoriemoon

I was just curious about “the only documented” as stated in that article. Granted, it was honorific, but not the only.

re: #534 marjoriemoon

Gah!! Please note that I meant “horrific”. Spell check gone mad!

Sorry. You just made a new word, Honco!!!

538 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:53:14pm

Israeli warplanes raid Gaza: Palestinians

GAZA CITY (AFP) – Israeli warplanes launched six raids on the Gaza Strip overnight Friday, but nobody was hurt in the attacks, Palestinian security officials and witnesses said.

Israel carried out five air strikes in the southern part of Gaza near Rafah and the border with Egypt, as well as a sixth raid east of Gaza City, said the sources.


Meanwhile…

Israeli gunships head to sea to block flotilla

HAIFA, Israel – Israeli gunships headed out to sea Friday to stop a flotilla of pro-Palestinian activists from reaching the Gaza Strip, the military said, setting the stage for what could become a dramatic showdown on the high seas.

Israel’s foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said the country was prepared to stop the flotilla “at any cost.” He called the aid mission a provocation and urged the international community to show understanding for the tough response.

“We really have all determination and political will to prevent this provocation against us,” he said. “I think that we’re ready at any cost … to prevent this provocation.”

539 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:54:02pm

re: #532 BryanS

Ahh, but Sadam used chemical weapons. I think this still meets the distinction of the only mass deployed germ warfare.

Early American history too.

540 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:54:05pm

re: #528 darthstar

We knew the junk shot wasn’t going to work (I’m waiting desperately to be proved wrong, by the way). They tried this in 1979 on the Ixtoc well in 160 feet of water and it didn’t work.

They thought they had better junk now.

Seriously though, depending on how the partially closed sheer rams are leaking, how many “holes” and how big, it is with the range of the possible that the junk shot could drop the pressure of the leak enough to be of some benefit.

541 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:54:22pm

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

Kos photo diary of the spill. Hope you have a strong stomach.

542 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:54:25pm

re: #534 marjoriemoon

Gah!! Please note that I meant “horrific”. Spell check gone mad!

Well, your spell checker must have some kind of intuition out of wack as well, since the Japanese language makes heavy use of honorific forms of verbs and nouns.

543 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:55:17pm

re: #525 BryanS

As is often the case, the US acts as Japan’s military, and is the only reason there is relative peace between Japan and all her nearby neighbors.

True, but that’s changing. Japan already has landing ships capable of operating fixed wing VTOL aircraft. I predict that Japan will have aircraft carriers again within 20 years.

544 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:55:25pm

OT

RIP Gary Coleman ;_;

545 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:55:30pm

Correction. Some are Apr 28.

546 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:55:45pm

re: #505 BryanS

There is a reason every Asian country still resents the Japanese. This ranks right up there with their Ear Mound Monument, consisting of a mound of ears collected from the dead in Korean peninsula conquests from the late 1500s.

Secret Asian Man has a strip where Tak, the narrator/writer of the strip is addressing a group of Asian-Americans, discussing how Asians in America don’t all have a common history like African-Americans…they don’t have a common language like Latinos…really, we don’t have anything in COMMON…

And the crowd yells back at poor Tak Tokoyama, “That’s not true! We’ve all been screwed by Japan!”

547 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:56:31pm

Israelis invent new Kidney Stone laser

Lumenis Surgical out of Yokneam, Israel will be introducing the VersaPulse P20 holmium laser at the American Urological Association annual meeting that’s starting tomorrow in San Francisco. The system is best suited for treating kidney stones, but can be used for other applications where up to 20 watts of energy is sufficient.

Once again - Palestinians blow stuff up. So do Israelis - but they blow it up with a purpose and they use really cool toys!

548 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:56:36pm

re: #540 Bagua

They thought they had better junk now.

Seriously though, depending on how the partially closed sheer rams are leaking, how many “holes” and how big, it is with the range of the possible that the junk shot could drop the pressure of the leak enough to be of some benefit.

Well, if it’s big enough junk in the trunk it might work.

549 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:56:37pm

re: #505 BryanS

There is a reason every Asian country still resents the Japanese.

Animé?

550 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:57:14pm

re: #548 darthstar

Well, if it’s big enough junk in the trunk it might work.

I knew not to click…

551 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:57:36pm

re: #547 SteveC

Israelis invent new Kidney Stone laser

Once again - Palestinians blow stuff up. So do Israelis - but they blow it up with a purpose and they use really cool toys!

They’re gonna use it to assassinate Palestinian resistance leaders by causing them to fatally piss blood!

///

552 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:57:39pm

re: #543 Dark_Falcon

True, but that’s changing. Japan already has landing ships capable of operating fixed wing VTOL aircraft. I predict that Japan will have aircraft carriers again within 20 years.

All the better for the US. Would be nice if we can finally stop paying for the peace of WWII by being Europe’s and SE Asia’s military for them.

Japan still has a long way to go to gain the trust of its neighbors. Thankfully they are such a different country today.

553 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:58:05pm

re: #548 darthstar

Well, if it’s big enough junk in the trunk it might work.

Wow! 36 - 24 - 65!

554 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:58:26pm

re: #550 Cannadian Club Akbar

I knew not to click…

I thought “junk in the trunk” was warning enough. :)

555 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:59:05pm

re: #543 Dark_Falcon

True, but that’s changing. Japan already has landing ships capable of operating fixed wing VTOL aircraft. I predict that Japan will have aircraft carriers again within 20 years.

I’d take that bet. It’s such an expensive proposition to build and, more importantly, maintain a carrier fleet that you need a damn good reason for one. Or two, more accurately, since you used the plural. :P

556 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:59:09pm

re: #553 cliffster

Wow! 36 - 24 - 65!

More like 36 * 24 = ___

557 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:59:15pm

re: #554 darthstar

I thought “junk in the trunk” was warning enough. :)

I thought is was gonna be the Venus tennis pic..

558 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:59:43pm

re: #540 Bagua

They thought they had better junk now.

“Why did the junk shot fail?”

“Mr. President, we thought that our junk was better.”

“You say that in public you’ll never hear the end of it. I’m still hearing `Daddy, did you plug the hole?’ jokes. “

559 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 8:59:50pm

re: #546 SanFranciscoZionist

Secret Asian Man has a strip where Tak, the narrator/writer of the strip is addressing a group of Asian-Americans, discussing how Asians in America don’t all have a common history like African-Americans…they don’t have a common language like Latinos…really, we don’t have anything in COMMON…

And the crowd yells back at poor Tak Tokoyama, “That’s not true! We’ve all been screwed by Japan!”

Heh.The Japanese have a very interesting culture and language, despite their historical maniacal evilness.

561 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:00:16pm

re: #557 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought is was gonna be the Venus tennis pic..

Venus has a nice ass.

562 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:01:22pm

re: #549 laZardo

Animé?

I was gonna go with tentacle por…

Never mind, let’s leave it at anime.

563 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:01:29pm

re: #555 JasonA

I’d take that bet. It’s such an expensive proposition to build and, more importantly, maintain a carrier fleet that you need a damn good reason for one. Or two, more accurately, since you used the plural. :P

Only one reason—China.

564 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:01:34pm

re: #543 Dark_Falcon

True, but that’s changing. Japan already has landing ships capable of operating fixed wing VTOL aircraft. I predict that Japan will have aircraft carriers again within 20 years.

I wanna see mecha in my lifetime.

Youtube Video
565 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:01:43pm

re: #555 JasonA

I’d take that bet. It’s such an expensive proposition to build and, more importantly, maintain a carrier fleet that you need a damn good reason for one. Or two, more accurately, since you used the plural. :P

China developing a blue water navy is a good reason. China will have carriers even sooner than that, and Japan will have to respond. We’re not going to be able to field enough force to match China quickly without a long run-up of tension.

566 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:02:03pm

re: #562 Slumbering Behemoth

I was gonna go with tentacle por…

Never mind, let’s leave it at anime.

Sometimes it’s best not to show how much cultural literacy you have.

567 cliffster  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:02:11pm

re: #561 darthstar

Venus has a nice ass.

I’d tap her I’d let her tap me

568 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:02:56pm

re: #529 avanti

Thanks for that, just looks like a big deal in the video, and they spend a lot of time looking at it.

I think they’d rather we saw the baby leak than the broken riser which is roughly 85% of the spew. Also this way they are on hand to watch if the BOP starts to quiver or the riser explodes.

BP staff in the PR room are probably accepting reality that this will be the most memorable and broadcasted oil leak in history. They must be depressed and drinking a lot. I image someone smashed a computer screen or two looking at the live spill cam.

BP will be renamed BAP, for British Accidental Petroleum.

569 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:02:57pm

re: #567 cliffster

I’d tap her I’d let her tap me

She would break you. And me.

570 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:03:16pm

re: #553 cliffster

Wow! 36 - 24 - 65!

Don’t laugh. That guy probably cooks that Rump Roast every night!

571 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #569 Cannadian Club Akbar

She would break you. And me.

Simultaneously.

572 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:04:01pm

re: #563 BryanS

Only one reason—China.

Isn’t Taiwan on the very top of China’s shit-list, though? I know Japan’s up there, too, but “Mainland” China, as it likes to be called, has always had that particular bug up its ass.

573 Varek Raith  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:05:46pm

re: #572 JasonA

Isn’t Taiwan on the very top of China’s shit-list, though? I know Japan’s up there, too, but “Mainland” China, as it likes to be called, has always had that particular bug up its ass.

True, but unlike Taiwan, Japan could go nuclear in the blink of an eye. The Chinese know this.
Roulette.

574 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:06:23pm

Man vs. Food on Travel Channel is hitting Sarasota. A fucking joke, all three places.

575 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:06:28pm

re: #548 darthstar

Well, if it’s big enough junk in the trunk it might work.

Back It Up

Youtube Video

- Beenie Man
576 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:06:51pm

re: #566 darthstar

Interweb Tip #317: If you search wisely, you never have to actually see the weird crap that’s out their in order to know that it exists.

577 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:07:03pm

Speaking of China, it looks like they might not intervene if North Korea decides to snap.

China “will not protect” whoever sank a South Korean warship in March, Premier Wen Jiabao has said.

“China objects to and condemns any act that destroys the peace and stability of the Korean peninsula,” Mr Wen was quoted as saying after talks in Seoul.

South Korea has blamed the North for sinking the Cheonan with a torpedo.

Beijing is under pressure to take a strong stance against North Korea but so far has not accepted the findings of an independent investigation.

SNIP

[key word might]

578 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:07:51pm

re: #572 JasonA

Isn’t Taiwan on the very top of China’s shit-list, though? I know Japan’s up there, too, but “Mainland” China, as it likes to be called, has always had that particular bug up its ass.

Mainland China.

The other was called

Free China.

579 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:08:01pm

OK, here’s my thought…I still feel fucked after Exxon Valdez. No satisfaction.

The people in Alaska waited 20 years for a reduced (by the Supreme Court) payout. Many died waiting. Then Exxon posts the largest profit ever in history by a company.

What is going to provide satisfaction after this BP fuck up? Anything?

Is it just a bad deal we have to live with?

580 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:08:12pm

re: #568 Bagua

BP will be renamed BAP, for British Accidental Petroleum.

I think they’ll change the name to NFL.

“Hey ref, this is the NFL. Keep blowing calls like that and it will stand for Not For Long.” - Jerry Glanville

581 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:08:38pm

re: #564 laZardo

I wanna see mecha in my lifetime.


[Video]

And here I thought this was going to be a link to Mecha Streisando a la South Park.

582 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:09:05pm

re: #573 Varek Raith

True, but unlike Taiwan, Japan could go nuclear in the blink of an eye. The Chinese know this.
Roulette.

That’s part of the reason I don’t see them wasting money on carriers. Another is that you build one of them to project power. If I’m Japan the only thing on my mind is defending that island. You don’t need a carrier to get to China from there if there’s something on the mainland you want to blow up.

583 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:09:51pm

re: #579 Stanley Sea

I still feel fucked after Exxon Valdez. No satisfaction.

Ur doin it rong.

/sorry, couldn’t resist

584 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:10:11pm

re: #578 swamprat

Mainland China.

The other was called

Free China.

Until 1997 anyway. Now it’s a Special Administrative Region.

585 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:10:23pm

re: #572 JasonA

Isn’t Taiwan on the very top of China’s shit-list, though? I know Japan’s up there, too, but “Mainland” China, as it likes to be called, has always had that particular bug up its ass.

Yeah, but China is, with Korea being a close second, on the top of Japan’s list of worries. That’s what would drive them to want their own naval capabilities—to balance China.

586 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:11:02pm

re: #583 Slumbering Behemoth

Youtube Video

amidoinitrite

587 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:11:18pm

re: #561 darthstar

Venus has a nice ass.

Heh, there’s Stanley Sea sneaking into the picture.

588 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:11:45pm

re: #579 Stanley Sea


What is going to provide satisfaction after this BP fuck up? Anything?

Chapter 7.

589 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:12:16pm

re: #587 Bagua

Heh, there’s Stanley Sea sneaking into the picture.

Well played.

590 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:13:08pm

re: #588 JasonA

Chapter 7.

Not gonna happen. They’ve got lots of money and they’ll keep making it hand over fist. People aren’t going to stop buying gasoline. BP will survive.

591 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:13:35pm

re: #583 Slumbering Behemoth

Ur doin it rong.

/sorry, couldn’t resist

You are so allowed. If I type it that way, it will happen.

I want answers though!

592 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:14:06pm

re: #587 Bagua

Heh, there’s Stanley Sea sneaking into the picture.

hah!

593 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:14:07pm

re: #587 Bagua

Heh, there’s Stanley Sea sneaking into the picture.

That’s Stubby Sea.

594 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:14:14pm

re: #590 Dark_Falcon

Only answering the question without any regard to its likelihood.

595 SteveC  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:14:22pm

re: #591 Stanley Sea

You are so allowed. If I type it that way, it will happen.

I want answers though!

Every time you get your answers, someone will change the questions!

596 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:15:48pm

re: #590 Dark_Falcon

Not gonna happen. They’ve got lots of money and they’ll keep making it hand over fist. People aren’t going to stop buying gasoline. BP will survive.

That’s the thing, Exxon posts the biggest profit EVER for a company after Valdez, while people suffered with a lesser judgment.

What can change? What should change? It’s very tricky.

597 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:16:57pm

We need an LGF summit to figure out how to plug the BP fuck up. Many smart people here. Many researchers. I think we can do it.

598 b_sharp  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:19:00pm

re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need an LGF summit to figure out how to plug the BP fuck up. Many smart people here. Many researchers. I think we can do it.

Piss on BP?

599 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:19:19pm

re: #591 Stanley Sea

My mind is in the gutter (an elevated state, I can assure you), and I am in a goofy mood. Watch out, I may embarrass us all.

/oh, where are the hot, goofy dorks in my age group?

600 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:19:26pm

re: #596 Stanley Sea

That’s the thing, Exxon posts the biggest profit EVER for a company after Valdez, while people suffered with a lesser judgment.

What can change? What should change? It’s very tricky.

Not much can change. BP simply has huge profits from their sales of petroleum products. Under the laws we have, they’ll be able to weather any judgment. The most we can do is make sure the bad PR causes people to go elsewhere for gas for a short time.

601 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:19:55pm

re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need an LGF summit to figure out how to plug the BP fuck up. Many smart people here. Many researchers. I think we can do it.

We know how to plug it up, the relief wells. We just don’t want to wait till August.

602 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:20:18pm

re: #579 Stanley Sea

OK, here’s my thought…I still feel fucked after Exxon Valdez. No satisfaction.

The people in Alaska waited 20 years for a reduced (by the Supreme Court) payout. Many died waiting. Then Exxon posts the largest profit ever in history by a company.

What is going to provide satisfaction after this BP fuck up? Anything?

Is it just a bad deal we have to live with?

BP does not have enough money to fully compensate everyone affected by this for their losses.

It’s the Gulf.
It’s the coastal clean-up, and loss of wildlife, some of which (brown pelican) were only JUST removed from the endangered species list.
It’s the people and communities who make their living from the Gulf.
It’s others such as deep-sea rig workers who will be out of work with the stupid 6-month moratorium that’s been put into place. The six months will be up in November - so forget about the holidays, all of these folks will be trying to play catch-up, once they go back to work (IF they go back to work and don’t have to close up their restaurant, grocery store, bait store, boat repair business, whatever).

None of these folks can wait 20 years to keep paying that mortgage payment, car payment, school tuition, grocery bill, etc etc etc.

So, yes, this will end up being a bad deal we have to live with.

603 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:21:05pm

re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need an LGF summit to figure out how to plug the BP fuck up. Many smart people here. Many researchers. I think we can do it.

Nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
/

604 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:22:10pm

re: #600 Dark_Falcon

Not much can change. BP simply has huge profits from their sales of petroleum products. Under the laws we have, they’ll be able to weather any judgment. The most we can do is make sure the bad PR causes people to go elsewhere for gas for a short time.

I’ve never pulled into an Exxon station since Valdez - 20+ years.

They don’t miss me.

605 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:22:28pm

re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar

We need an LGF summit to figure out how to plug the BP fuck up. Many smart people here. Many researchers. I think we can do it.

How about shoving BP executives down the well until it stops leaking. If that doesn’t work, shove their profits into the well…that’ll do the trick.

606 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:23:10pm

re: #603 Slumbering Behemoth

Nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
/

I say we cast the BOP back into the fires of Mt. Doom whence it came!

607 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:23:17pm

Oh….my…..goodness. Glenn Beck has decided to become an early church historian. Let the insane hilarity ensue!

608 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:24:05pm

re: #602 reine.de.tout

BP does not have enough money to fully compensate everyone affected by this for their losses.

It’s the Gulf.
It’s the coastal clean-up, and loss of wildlife, some of which (brown pelican) were only JUST removed from the endangered species list.
It’s the people and communities who make their living from the Gulf.
It’s others such as deep-sea rig workers who will be out of work with the stupid 6-month moratorium that’s been put into place. The six months will be up in November - so forget about the holidays, all of these folks will be trying to play catch-up, once they go back to work (IF they go back to work and don’t have to close up their restaurant, grocery store, bait store, boat repair business, whatever).

None of these folks can wait 20 years to keep paying that mortgage payment, car payment, school tuition, grocery bill, etc etc etc.

So, yes, this will end up being a bad deal we have to live with.

Thanks much for answering. UGH

609 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:24:44pm

re: #608 Stanley Sea

Thanks much for answering. UGH


You knew you weren’t going to like the answer. Don’t lie. :P

610 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:25:27pm

re: #608 Stanley Sea

Thanks much for answering. UGH

Shit.
Sorry for that rant.
I’m so upset with this stuff, I can’t see straight, seriously.
It’s gone from really bad to worse, with even more worse on the horizon for the next couple of months at least.
I’m just disgusted.

611 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:10pm

re: #605 darthstar

How about shoving BP executives down the well until it stops leaking. If that doesn’t work, shove their profits into the well…that’ll do the trick.

Now, there’s an idea!

612 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:10pm

re: #607 Irenicum

Oh…my…goodness. Glenn Beck has decided to become an early church historian. Let the insane hilarity ensue!

And speaking of religion, I seem to be suffering from classic Atheist Starbucks Withdrawal.

q;

613 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:13pm

re: #601 Bagua

We know how to plug it up, the relief wells. We just don’t want to wait till August.

Get in a nice hurricane to start blowing it around. Season starts Tuesday.

I have no idea and I don’t think “they” do either, what that will mean, btw.

They predict a stormy season. Each year they do this and it means diddly squat. They’re usually wrong.

Since a hurricane needs warm water and air to form, my thinking was that it would be a slow season since we had a really cold and long winter. OTOH, they say it’s the warmest year on record. I guess that climate v. weather?

614 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:25pm

re: #606 JasonA

I say we cast the BOP back into the fires of Mt. Doom whence it came!

That’ll be tough. Ten thousand corporate lawyers stand between us and Mt. Doom.

/just going with the meme.

615 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:45pm

re: #607 Irenicum

Oh…my…goodness. Glenn Beck has decided to become an early church historian. Let the insane hilarity ensue!

What is he up to now?

616 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:26:53pm

Here’s the first link, with it’s own internal link to lead you the insane musings of America’s greatest historian the universe has ever seen!!! God I love this guy. At least he keeps me laughing. That is, till I cry at the absolute illiteracy of almost all American evangelicals.

617 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:27:29pm

re: #611 reine.de.tout

Now, there’s an idea!

I’m sure if we shoved just one of them down the well the rest would suddenly remember the back up plan they have.

618 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:27:37pm

re: #609 JasonA

You knew you weren’t going to like the answer. Don’t lie. :P

Shit, I was actually wondering if there were some not so crazy communist ideas on how to make BP be accountable.

619 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:05pm

If you stop “buying” BP or Exxon gasoline you may still be putting BP or Exxon (or any other company) gasoline in your tank. This is also true with the source oil.

620 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:11pm

re: #612 laZardo

Mmmmm, atheist Starbucks, ontologically indeterminate yumminess!

621 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:14pm

re: #617 darthstar

I’m sure if we shoved just one of them down the well the rest would suddenly remember the back up plan they have.

Ha!
OR, manage to come up with one really quick.

622 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:25pm

re: #614 Dark_Falcon

That’ll be tough. Ten thousand corporate lawyers stand between us and Mt. Doom.

/just going with the meme.

One does not simply walk into Westlake Park!

623 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:31pm

re: #610 reine.de.tout

Shit.
Sorry for that rant.
I’m so upset with this stuff, I can’t see straight, seriously.
It’s gone from really bad to worse, with even more worse on the horizon for the next couple of months at least.
I’m just disgusted.

Oh Renie, I can imagine. Everyone here (ME!!) appreciates your input.

624 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:33pm

Just checked the bp live-leak video on CNN. There used to be four main leaks from the thing…now there seem to be six of them.

625 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:48pm

re: #607 Irenicum

Oh…my…goodness. Glenn Beck has decided to become an early church historian. Let the insane hilarity ensue!

No, Glenn. Early Christians were not whatever it is you think they were.

//That said, what does he think the early Church was like?

626 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:28:54pm

re: #613 marjoriemoon


A hurricane would actually help. Unless the bottom right quadrant is near a coast.

627 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:29:22pm

re: #615 BryanS

He’s apparently decided he’s now an early church historian. Oh this is gonna be fun!

628 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:29:25pm

Well, the good news is that you can get shrimp from places other than Louisiana.///

(Said by an actual BP rep in case you hadn’t heard.)

629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:29:39pm

re: #4 JasonA

Oops. In my excitement, I forgot some punctuation.

So solly.

630 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:29:42pm

re: #616 Irenicum

Here’s the first link, with it’s own internal link to lead you the insane musings of America’s greatest historian the universe has ever seen!!! God I love this guy. At least he keeps me laughing. That is, till I cry at the absolute illiteracy of almost all American evangelicals.

Seems to be a lot of hate on him on that site due to him being a Mormon—didn’t know he was if that is the case.

631 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:26pm

re: #601 Bagua

re: #602 reine.de.tout

You both seem to have a pretty firm handle on what is going on here. Going forward, would it be practical/feasible to install a relief well simultaneously with a main well as a back-up should something like this happen again?

632 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:31pm

re: #613 marjoriemoon

Get in a nice hurricane to start blowing it around. Season starts Tuesday.

I have no idea and I don’t think “they” do either, what that will mean, btw.

They predict a stormy season. Each year they do this and it means diddly squat. They’re usually wrong.

Since a hurricane needs warm water and air to form, my thinking was that it would be a slow season since we had a really cold and long winter. OTOH, they say it’s the warmest year on record. I guess that climate v. weather?

I’ve been thinking about hurricanes for the last week or two…if a big one rolls through the gulf, the storm surge could push oil a mile or more inland. Let’s hope the hurricanes all stay on the Atlantic side of Florida this year.

633 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:38pm

re: #616 Irenicum

That is, till I cry at the absolute illiteracy of almost all American evangelicals.

FTFY O:

634 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:44pm

re: #628 JasonA

Well, the good news is that you can get shrimp from places other than Louisiana.///

(Said by an actual BP rep in case you hadn’t heard.)

The shrimp where I work are fro LA. And could you repost your Kos link for Reine? (I think it was you)

635 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:47pm

re: #610 reine.de.tout

Shit.
Sorry for that rant.
I’m so upset with this stuff, I can’t see straight, seriously.
It’s gone from really bad to worse, with even more worse on the horizon for the next couple of months at least.
I’m just disgusted.

No, it was spot on. The financial impact on the jobs in offshore drilling is devastating. No doubt they could simply tighten up procedures on existing holes - and maybe add another stack of BOPs - and have almost no chance of another accident while new kit is being developed.

636 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:30:47pm

re: #619 Gus 802

If you stop “buying” BP or Exxon gasoline you may still be putting BP or Exxon (or any other company) gasoline in your tank. This is also true with the source oil.

Oh I know. It was my own moral compass that made me drive on below E to the Arco. Probably just as bad.

637 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:31:27pm

re: #636 Stanley Sea

Oh I know. It was my own moral compass that made me drive on below E to the Arco. Probably just as bad.

How about Citgo?

/wait for it…

638 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:31:29pm

re: #623 Stanley Sea

Oh Renie, I can imagine. Everyone here (ME!!) appreciates your input.

{stanley sea}

re: #624 darthstar

Just checked the bp live-leak video on CNN. There used to be four main leaks from the thing…now there seem to be six of them.

Looks like a bunch to me, and boy, that stuff looks like it’s shooting out of there really fast. But I think that’s mud, not oil. And I think they’re using a water based mud, which is not as toxic to the waters as an oil-based or synthetic-based mud would be.

If pushing that mud down keeps the oil from leaking out and the mud is less toxic - I think they need to keep doing that if they can’t kill the thing, until they get the relief wells finished.

639 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:31:33pm

re: #618 Stanley Sea

Shit, I was actually wondering if there were some not so crazy communist ideas on how to make BP be accountable.

Yeah, hold them fully responsible for the full cost of this disaster. No cap on liability, and maybe treble damages as a punitive incentive to not shortcut int he future.

640 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:01pm

re: #628 JasonA

Well, the good news is that you can get shrimp from places other than Louisiana.///

(Said by an actual BP rep in case you hadn’t heard.)

!!$$@@(&$^#*$^%%$*$^

641 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:24pm

re: #636 Stanley Sea

Oh I know. It was my own moral compass that made me drive on below E to the Arco. Probably just as bad.

Yeah. They jumble the oil and gasoline purchases. I’ve forgotten about Arco. Usually I get Conoco.

642 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:24pm

re: #619 Gus 802

If you stop “buying” BP or Exxon gasoline you may still be putting BP or Exxon (or any other company) gasoline in your tank. This is also true with the source oil.

Really with all the oil companies people have attempted to avoid/boycott in the past. Oil is a fungible resource.

643 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:29pm

re: #622 laZardo

One does not simply walk into Westlake Park!

The smell of money pervades everything, the very air you breathe is tainted with the scent of cash. And oil companies do not use dogs for security, preferring Uruk-hai instead. :D

644 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:30pm

re: #597 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cut the pipe off the Blowout Preventer.
Set the Top Hat over it.
They were stalling to let the pressure off anyway.
The top hat could never have worked with the one mile of pipe lying, still attached, between the rim of the top hat and the sea floor. They could not have cut the pipe off earlier, because it was restricting the flow to some degree… They have been lying, but the truth would have not set well. And I doubt the hat would have worked with a gazillion gallons of highly pressurized goo and gas pouring out. And once they stop the flow, they can’t get the oil. They would not be allowed to finish. So they will not be successful, until they drill the “relief” wells. I believe that this is a show.

645 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:32:34pm

re: #634 Cannadian Club Akbar

The shrimp where I work are fro LA. And could you repost your Kos link for Reine? (I think it was you)

re: #541 JasonA

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

Kos photo diary of the spill. Hope you have a strong stomach.

This one?

646 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:03pm

re: #613 marjoriemoon

Get in a nice hurricane to start blowing it around. Season starts Tuesday.

I have no idea and I don’t think “they” do either, what that will mean, btw.

They predict a stormy season. Each year they do this and it means diddly squat. They’re usually wrong.

Since a hurricane needs warm water and air to form, my thinking was that it would be a slow season since we had a really cold and long winter. OTOH, they say it’s the warmest year on record. I guess that climate v. weather?

It is a double edged sword, the hurricane could help dissipate the oil, or it could wash it up on shore. They would have to interrupt the relief wells, put in a cement pill and go ashore. Delays and unpredictable results.

647 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:10pm

re: #619 Gus 802

If you stop “buying” BP or Exxon gasoline you may still be putting BP or Exxon (or any other company) gasoline in your tank. This is also true with the source oil.

Right. By the time the gas gets into your tank, the oil has been refined in lots of different places. Boycotting because of the gas itself, is pretty pointless.

OTOH, if you simply don’t want your $ going to Exxon or BP, you can certainly do that.

648 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:11pm

re: #640 reine.de.tout

!!$$@@(&$^#*$^%%$*$^

You hadn’t heard? Sorry :(

But yeah.

649 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:21pm

re: #638 reine.de.tout

Looks like a bunch to me, and boy, that stuff looks like it’s shooting out of there really fast. But I think that’s mud, not oil. And I think they’re using a water based mud, which is not as toxic to the waters as an oil-based or synthetic-based mud would be.

If pushing that mud down keeps the oil from leaking out and the mud is less toxic - I think they need to keep doing that if they can’t kill the thing, until they get the relief wells finished.

The mud is more abrasive than the oil and accelerates corrosion of the pipe, especially at pressure. That’s why they can’t do it for very long.

650 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:33pm

Stalin was a Democrat?

No, not McCarthyism but the premise of Harry Turtledove’s alternate history short story Joe Steele.

The story’s point of departure is that Joseph Stalin’s parents emigrated to the United States (six months before Joe was born, making him a natural born citizen of the US).
Stalin, here called “Joe Steele”, becomes a Democratic congressman from Fresno, California.
After bringing about the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Steele is elected President of the United States in 1932, trouncing Herbert Hoover. Steele begins to slowly take more power, eliminating opposition with the enthusiastic help of J. Edgar Hoover. He initiates a massive set of public works projects, called the Four Year Plan, to end unemployment and build industry. He nationalizes the banks and creates collective farms. He meets great resistance from capitalist ideologues, eventually resulting in underhanded purges of the Supreme Court, and later the military establishment. Soon, the average American is cowed. In his second term Steele introduces labor camps for political opponents and wrong-thinking citizens. Unrepentant prisoners are exiled to Alaska, North Dakota, and other isolated regions.

Buwaahaahaaa!

651 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:37pm

re: #640 reine.de.tout

My Costco shrimp is from Thailand.
I WISH it was form Louisiana.
((Reine)))

652 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:46pm

re: #645 JasonA

Yep. Thanks.

653 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:47pm

re: #616 Irenicum

Here’s the first link, with it’s own internal link to lead you the insane musings of America’s greatest historian the universe has ever seen!!! God I love this guy. At least he keeps me laughing. That is, till I cry at the absolute illiteracy of almost all American evangelicals.

WOW.

654 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:33:50pm

re: #636 Stanley Sea

Oh I know. It was my own moral compass that made me drive on below E to the Arco. Probably just as bad.

Arco is subsidiary of BP.

D’oh!

655 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:34:03pm

re: #626 Cannadian Club Akbar

A hurricane would actually help. Unless the bottom right quadrant is near a coast.

Oh there’s so many variables with that, I think impossible to predict.

656 darthstar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:34:40pm

Okay…internet break time…play nice, everyone.

657 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:34:41pm

re: #622 laZardo

One does not simply walk into Westlake Park!

Of course you do. You totally do!

658 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:34:42pm

re: #630 BryanS

Oh Glenn is definitely a Mormon. He’s very open about that. And the page I linked to is a pretty “well versed” evangelical site, so they’re not very Mormon friendly. But Beck is even crazy by Mormon standards. The internal link they provide leads to Beck’s own audio link at the next page. He basically has decided to go all Dan Brown over, of all things, the Dead Sea Scrolls. But there’s one slight problem. the council of Nicea knew nothing of them. Glenn is speaking out of his anal cavity as usual.

659 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:35:20pm

re: #616 Irenicum

Here’s the first link, with it’s own internal link to lead you the insane musings of America’s greatest historian the universe has ever seen!!! God I love this guy. At least he keeps me laughing. That is, till I cry at the absolute illiteracy of almost all American evangelicals.

That’s indeed so bass akwards and insane its hysterical. But then I remember how little history most people know, and how easily it is for them to buy into crackpot ideas like Beck’s. Then it stops being funny and I am sore afraid.

660 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:35:24pm

re: #656 darthstar

Okay…internet break time…play nice, everyone.

Screw you!!
///

661 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:35:34pm

re: #631 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #602 reine.de.tout

You both seem to have a pretty firm handle on what is going on here. Going forward, would it be practical/feasible to install a relief well simultaneously with a main well as a back-up should something like this happen again?

1. Wells cost millions and millions of dollars to drill. Hubby’s bill is sometimes $1 million for ONE DAY’S mud. And that’s just the mud cost. I don’t think it’s economically feasible.

2. I mentioned this earlier today. Hubby was home when this happened, but went back out offshore a week after the blowout. By the time he’d been there an hour, he knew what had happened and why. And he also knew that the process BP insisted on using was not a safe one, and that the decisions were stupid ones, and that they were asking for trouble by doing what they did. There may be another event like this one day - but it won’t be for the same reasons. They’ve been drilling out there for DECADES without an incident. But then, most companies are making good decisions.

662 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:35:56pm

re: #634 Cannadian Club Akbar

The shrimp where I work are fro LA. And could you repost your Kos link for Reine? (I think it was you)

What KOS link?

663 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:35:57pm

re: #633 laZardo

Sadly, I think you’re largely right.

664 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:36:01pm

re: #658 Irenicum

Oh Glenn is definitely a Mormon. He’s very open about that. And the page I linked to is a pretty “well versed” evangelical site, so they’re not very Mormon friendly. But Beck is even crazy by Mormon standards. The internal link they provide leads to Beck’s own audio link at the next page. He basically has decided to go all Dan Brown over, of all things, the Dead Sea Scrolls. But there’s one slight problem. the council of Nicea knew nothing of them. Glenn is speaking out of his anal cavity as usual.

Goes without saying :)

665 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:36:10pm

re: #641 Gus 802

Yeah. They jumble the oil and gasoline purchases. I’ve forgotten about Arco. Usually I get Conoco.

Not in my town. You probably pay .50 less too.

I paid 2.93 today. :(

666 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:37:14pm

re: #665 Stanley Sea

Not in my town. You probably pay .50 less too.

I paid 2.93 today. :(

2.93? I can get “high test” for that. 91 octane.

667 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:38:04pm

re: #661 reine.de.tout

It’s so very very cool, to have a poster who KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT on something like this.
Muchas gracias, Miz Reine!

668 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:38:48pm

re: #646 Bagua

It is a double edged sword, the hurricane could help dissipate the oil, or it could wash it up on shore. They would have to interrupt the relief wells, put in a cement pill and go ashore. Delays and unpredictable results.

It’s just miserable all the way around. Let’s hope any serious storms go up the Atlantic and away from land.

669 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:38:55pm

Won’t oil in the water effect evaporation? (hence hurricanes?)

670 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:39:21pm

re: #664 BryanS

My farts would be more theologically astute than anything he has to say.

671 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:39:22pm

re: #654 Gus 802

Arco is subsidiary of BP.

D’oh!

Hey, that was THEN. Now?

What is Valero?

672 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:39:29pm

re: #662 reine.de.tout

What KOS link?

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

From JasonA

673 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:40:01pm

re: #658 Irenicum

Oh Glenn is definitely a Mormon. He’s very open about that. And the page I linked to is a pretty “well versed” evangelical site, so they’re not very Mormon friendly. But Beck is even crazy by Mormon standards. The internal link they provide leads to Beck’s own audio link at the next page. He basically has decided to go all Dan Brown over, of all things, the Dead Sea Scrolls. But there’s one slight problem. the council of Nicea knew nothing of them. Glenn is speaking out of his anal cavity as usual.

The Dead Sea Scrolls were planted by the Vatican??

674 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:41:01pm

re: #659 Dark_Falcon

You’re absolutely right and that’s what scares me too. People so ignore of actual history can be led by the pied pipers over a cliff of their own ignorance.

675 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:41:01pm

re: #630 BryanS

Seems to be a lot of hate on him on that site due to him being a Mormon—didn’t know he was if that is the case.

He is a Mormon, yes. I’m sorry people are hating on him for that. (As opposed to the many things one could legitimately hate on him for.)

676 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:41:08pm

re: #669 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Won’t oil in the water effect evaporation? (hence hurricanes?)

Oil in 5000 feet, I bet cold. On the surface where that water temp is 90? I don’t know.

677 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:41:57pm

re: #671 Stanley Sea

Hey, that was THEN. Now?

What is Valero?

ARCO is still part of “the BP group.”

[Link: www.bp.com…]

Valero is solo but I read that they shared space at the BP Texas City Oil refinery.

678 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:42:29pm

re: #631 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #602 reine.de.tout

You both seem to have a pretty firm handle on what is going on here. Going forward, would it be practical/feasible to install a relief well simultaneously with a main well as a back-up should something like this happen again?

That would of course, be a doubling of the cost of the well. I image the new regulation will be short of that.

I can think of a few things.

679 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:42:34pm

re: #666 Gus 802

“Oooo look at me. I ony re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

Found this on Kos, too:

Raging Grannies On Gulf Oil Spill: “BP, You Suck!”

Youtube Video
680 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:42:46pm

re: #666 Gus 802

2.93? I can get “high test” for that. 91 octane.

LUCKY.

But I’m always and I mean pretty much always 70 and mild. That must be it…?!

681 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:42:47pm

re: #675 SanFranciscoZionist

He is a Mormon, yes. I’m sorry people are hating on him for that. (As opposed to the many things one could legitimately hate on him for.)

Beck was an alcoholic druggie until me became a Mormon. His wife told him to straighten up or ship out.

682 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:42:55pm

re: #628 JasonA

Well, the good news is that you can get shrimp from places other than Louisiana.///

(Said by an actual BP rep in case you hadn’t heard.)

Yeah, I’m sure he or she can.

Now, can the Louisiana shrimpers feed their families on money earned from shrimp from ‘other places’? HUH?

683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:43:08pm

re: #676 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought it was floating. I’m serious. A few years ago, I heard (out of the corner of my ear) that they were considering adding a topical biodegradable substance to a large swath of the Gulf for just that purpose.

Maybe I dreamed it.

684 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:43:26pm

re: #682 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I’m sure he or she can.

Now, can the Louisiana shrimpers feed their families on money earned from shrimp from ‘other places’? HUH?

Nope.
Thank you.

685 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:43:50pm

re: #675 SanFranciscoZionist

My beef with Beck isn’t over his Mormonism by the way, even though I have my own religious issues with that belief system as an evangelical myself. My beef with Beck is his abject craziness being mainstreamed. His conspiratorial history is dangerous stuff that feeds deep and dark beasts that only serve to eat us all alive.

686 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:44:37pm

re: #673 marjoriemoon

His ignorance knows no bounds!

687 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:44:47pm

re: #683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it was floating. I’m serious. A few years ago, I heard (out of the corner of my ear) that they were considering adding a topical biodegradable substance to a large swath of the Gulf for just that purpose.

Maybe I dreamed it.

I think they threw down dispersant stuff, but the EPA jumped their ass.

688 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:45:53pm

re: #679 JasonA

“Oooo look at me. I ony re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

Found this on Kos, too:

Raging Grannies On Gulf Oil Spill: “BP, You Suck!”

[Video]

BP is one of the largest refiners of aviation fuel.

689 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:46:01pm

re: #679 JasonA

Gotta stop getting sidetracked while posting…

690 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:46:06pm

re: #681 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beck was an alcoholic druggie until me became a Mormon. His wife told him to straighten up or ship out.

Seems to be the same story as George W Bush, just different particular faith.

691 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:46:10pm

re: #672 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.dailykos.com…]

From JasonA

thanks.

692 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:46:26pm

re: #683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought it was floating. I’m serious. A few years ago, I heard (out of the corner of my ear) that they were considering adding a topical biodegradable substance to a large swath of the Gulf for just that purpose.

Maybe I dreamed it.

And then there is this…
[Link: www.tampabay.com…]

693 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:47:09pm

re: #649 darthstar

The mud is more abrasive than the oil and accelerates corrosion of the pipe, especially at pressure. That’s why they can’t do it for very long.

oops.
yeah, you’re right.
pfft.

694 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:47:55pm

re: #649 darthstar

The mud is more abrasive than the oil and accelerates corrosion of the pipe, especially at pressure. That’s why they can’t do it for very long.

In bed.

695 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:47:57pm

re: #661 reine.de.tout

1. Wells cost millions and millions of dollars to drill. Hubby’s bill is sometimes $1 million for ONE DAY’S mud. And that’s just the mud cost. I don’t think it’s economically feasible.

Thank you, and a follow up question:

Would the cost of pre-installing a relief well exceed the loss of resources (i.e. the current lost oil)?

P.S. I appreciate the knowledgeable input yourself and Bagua have contributed here. Thanks to you both.

696 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:47:59pm

re: #681 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beck was an alcoholic druggie until me became a Mormon. His wife told him to straighten up or ship out.

re: #690 BryanS

Seems to be the same story as George W Bush, just different particular faith.

(I am not saying Beck is a great man, do not take this wrong!)

Some great men were made great by their wives.

Wives who lovingly told them to STFD and STFU.

697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:49:19pm

re: #692 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, I know about that.

I’m talking about the pretty rainbow colored shit floating on top of the water.

698 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:49:49pm

re: #685 Irenicum

My beef with Beck isn’t over his Mormonism by the way, even though I have my own religious issues with that belief system as an evangelical myself. My beef with Beck is his abject craziness being mainstreamed. His conspiratorial history is dangerous stuff that feeds deep and dark beasts that only serve to eat us all alive.

Agreed. His “early church history” was so off target that it made The Da Vinci Code’s exposition on the same period seem right on the money by comparison. At least Dan Brown seemed to know the chronology of events.

699 BryanS  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:50:53pm

re: #696 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(I am not saying Beck is a great man, do not take this wrong!)

Some great men were made great by their wives.

Wives who lovingly told them to STFD and STFU.

George W certainly is lucky to have Laura Bush for his wife.

700 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:51:04pm

re: #698 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. His “early church history” was so off target that it made The Da Vinci Code’s exposition on the same period seem right on the money by comparison. At least Dan Brown seemed to know the chronology of events.

Too bad he can’t write for shit.

701 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:51:13pm

re: #697 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I know about that.

I’m talking about the pretty rainbow colored shit floating on top of the water.

Find what NatGeo had on last night. The CG finds a slick, contains it, puts in a pump to suck it up. But only 25K gallons at a time. And it seperates oil from water.

702 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:51:31pm

The thought just occurred to me. I wonder if Beck has among his staff someone who does “research” for him, a “plant” that wants to make him look even more stupid than he already is? I mean, this isn’t hard to research kids! Of course that would only reinforce his own paranoia.

703 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:51:57pm

re: #673 marjoriemoon

The Dead Sea Scrolls were planted by the Vatican??

No, the concept appears to be that Beck thinks the Dead Sea Scrolls were stashed at Qumran by people preserving noncanonical texts from those who would have destroyed them, following the Nicean Council, put together by the Emperor Constantine when he decided to ‘cobble together an army’.

There are some problems with this theory. It’s not remotely true is the big one.

704 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:52:07pm

re: #687 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think they threw down dispersant stuff, but the EPA jumped their ass.

I thought that was the dispersant they were using for the underwater plumes, not the on top stuff?

705 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:53:06pm

re: #702 Irenicum

Beck went to an Ivy College. Wanna know who wrote the letter that got him in? Joe Lieberman. (Beck dropped out)

706 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:53:36pm

Uh oh!

Boycott Valero

D’oh!

707 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:53:40pm

re: #704 reine.de.tout

I thought that was the dispersant they were using for the underwater plumes, not the on top stuff?

You’re probably right.

708 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:54:21pm

re: #685 Irenicum

My beef with Beck isn’t over his Mormonism by the way, even though I have my own religious issues with that belief system as an evangelical myself. My beef with Beck is his abject craziness being mainstreamed. His conspiratorial history is dangerous stuff that feeds deep and dark beasts that only serve to eat us all alive.

No, clearly. The problem is that he’s making up history that is supposed to ‘prove’ some kind of point. Bad history. Bad point.

I assume he believes that his stupid books will be in the modern-day Qumran stash?

709 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:57:02pm

re: #708 SanFranciscoZionist

I assume he believes that his stupid books will be in the modern-day Qumran stash?

More like the 80%-off bin at Barnes & Nobles.

710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:57:48pm

A cop followed me for two miles tonight after I left my bar.

I don’t drive buzzed or drunk. Three beers in four hours doesn’t do anything to me. He made a U-turn and chased someone else down.

He followed the wrong fat bastard out of the bar.

I think I made him sad.

711 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:58:01pm

But if Obama is Constantine in this version of things, does that mean that Beck at least believes that he’s a Christian?

//

712 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:58:06pm

Why? Why do I read the comments on Politico articles?

I just sent the editor another email. gah

713 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:58:18pm

re: #695 Slumbering Behemoth

Thank you, and a follow up question:

Would the cost of pre-installing a relief well exceed the loss of resources (i.e. the current lost oil)?

P.S. I appreciate the knowledgeable input yourself and Bagua have contributed here. Thanks to you both.

In this case? Probably a pre-installed relief well BEFORE the incident would have cost less than the lost oil.

In every other case? There is no point to it. There has been no lost oil for decades.

714 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:59:05pm

re: #709 JasonA

More like the 80%-off bin at Barnes & Nobles.

Actually, one of his new releases beat a Stephen King new release. I think it was “The Christmas Sweater”.

715 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 9:59:52pm

re: #713 reine.de.tout

In this case? Probably a pre-installed relief well BEFORE the incident would have cost less than the lost oil.

In every other case? There is no point to it. There has been no lost oil for decades.

Reine, I think I read here that the European wells are required to have a shut off valve or something that we do not require. Correct? You know anything about this?

716 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:00:30pm

re: #714 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, one of his new releases beat a Stephen King new release. I think it was “The Christmas Sweater”.

Now that is just BS. Our country!

717 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:00:45pm

re: #709 JasonA

More like the 80%-off bin at Barnes & Nobles.

And it’s Gary Coleman who falls down and hits his head.

718 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:00:56pm

re: #714 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, one of his new releases beat a Stephen King new release. I think it was “The Christmas Sweater”.

Those books always get that “bulk sale” asterisk next to them in the bestseller list, though.

719 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:00:59pm

re: #713 reine.de.tout

Thanks. With that… IRON BABY!

… I’m out. Nite Lizards.

720 swamprat  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:01:05pm

re: #704 reine.de.tout

I thought that was the dispersant they were using for the underwater plumes, not the on top stuff?

Did you wonder about putting a 4 inch tube into a much larger pipe?
I bet that they were using that pipe to put in the dispersant. It makes more sense, anyway.

721 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:01:34pm

re: #715 Stanley Sea

Reine, I think I read here that the European wells are required to have a shut off valve or something that we do not require. Correct? You know anything about this?

I forget what it’s called, but yes, there is some sort of something that is supposed to be used as a last resort to shut down the well.

Honestly- I’m not convinced it would have helped in this case. To shut off the valve, you would have to know something was wrong. On this well, it seems everybody ignored all the normal warning signs, and kept on going. Nobody knew anything was wrong until the thing blew up.

722 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:02:12pm

re: #718 JasonA

Those books always get that “bulk sale” asterisk next to them in the bestseller list, though.

He has had 3 or 4 best sellers on the NYT list. Don’t shoot the messenger.:)

723 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:02:24pm

re: #716 Stanley Sea

Now that is just BS. Our country!

Yeah. But at least the people that bought Stephen King’s book actually read it.

724 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:02:59pm

re: #721 reine.de.tout

I forget what it’s called, but yes, there is some sort of something that is supposed to be used as a last resort to shut down the well.

Honestly- I’m not convinced it would have helped in this case. To shut off the valve, you would have to know something was wrong. On this well, it seems everybody ignored all the normal warning signs, and kept on going. Nobody knew anything was wrong until the thing blew up.

Thanks. Yeah, that makes sense. They never imagined that the whole rig would go down and 11 would perish.

725 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:03:24pm

re: #722 Cannadian Club Akbar

He has had 3 or 4 best sellers on the NYT list. Don’t shoot the messenger.:)

I wouldn’t dare.

Have you seen how much bullets cost these days?

726 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:04:04pm

re: #723 Gus 802

Yeah. But at least the people that bought Stephen King’s book actually read it.

I read a short story from King when I was 17. Then I hid under my covers. Not kidding. “The Boogeyman”.

727 Skeetghazi  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:04:12pm

I’m out! have a great night friends!

728 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:05:08pm

re: #724 Stanley Sea

Thanks. Yeah, that makes sense. They never imagined that the whole rig would go down and 11 would perish.

I’ve read some of the reports of the testimony, etc., and they had all sorts of warning signs, beginning the day before, that things weren’t right, and they dismissed or ignored the oddities that should have told them to STOP.

729 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:05:15pm

New poll!

Question A:

Did you purchase Glenn Beck’s recent book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for not sure.

Question B:

If you answered yes for question “A” did you read the book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for “I can’t read.”
Press 4 for not sure.

730 What, me worry?  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:06:12pm

re: #729 Gus 802

New poll!

Question A:

Did you purchase Glenn Beck’s recent book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for not sure.

Question B:

If you answered yes for question “A” did you read the book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for “I can’t read.”
Press 4 for not sure.

Question C:

Ron Paul!

Question D:

Rand Paul!

731 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:06:26pm

re: #708 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #711 SanFranciscoZionist

Beck has a serious case of apocalyptic mania. I think that’s what’s driving him, and every other end timey type out there. Tonight, at seminary, I had a fairly long conversation with a friend about that issue. It has to do with wanting to be at the center of history. It’s not just a religious thing by the way, the secular crowd has its own end timey types. As time goes by I realize it has more to do with psychology than with any particular ideology or theology, though certain of those types serve to accentuate the impulse more than others. A strange and dangerous impulse indeed.

732 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:06:33pm

re: #729 Gus 802

New poll!

Question A:

Did you purchase Glenn Beck’s recent book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for not sure.

Question B:

If you answered yes for question “A” did you read the book?

Press 1 for yes.
Press 2 for no.
Press 3 for “I can’t read.”
Press 4 for not sure.

Okay, but I want the questions to be read by Mark Levin, screaming them into the receiver.

733 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:06:42pm

re: #729 Gus 802

F. I have a couple CDs, but it is comedy stuff.

734 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:07:03pm

re: #730 marjoriemoon

Question C:

Ron Paul!

Question D:

Rand Paul!

Isn’t he that drag queen?

/

735 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:07:20pm

re: #732 JasonA

Okay, but I want the questions to be read by Mark Levin, screaming them into the receiver.

No silly, Michael Savage!!

736 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:07:25pm

re: #721 reine.de.tout

Good night, Lizardia.
Prayers for the Oil blow out, and a quick solution and healing for LA.
Sleep tight.

737 lostlakehiker  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:07:57pm

re: #31 compound idaho

My sister went to the University of Chicago. She and a friend were on the train home late one evening. A nice black gentleman came up and pointed out to them that perhaps they had missed their stop and should get off and head back north at the next station.

Racist? I think not. Good man looking out for a lost young white girl from Idaho. Happy and sad story all at the same time.

At the time of the Atlanta Olympic games, some secondary football games were held in Birmingham. Buses were arranged to take the crowd back from the stadium, across the inner city section, to the hotel district. As it happened, there were too few buses and too much chaos, and many people had to wait 2, 3, 4, 5 hours for their ride. A few dozen, in groups of a few here and a few there, decided to take their chances and walk the 2 or 3 miles.

Most were mugged.

738 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:08:26pm

re: #735 Cannadian Club Akbar

No silly, Michael Savage!!

I say we split the difference and both agree on Alex Jones.

739 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:08:54pm

re: #732 JasonA

Okay, but I want the questions to be read by Mark Levin, screaming them into the receiver.

If we can’t get Mark Levin to do that we can always get Justin Bieber to do it. No one will be able to tell the difference.

/

740 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:09:10pm

re: #738 JasonA

I say we split the difference and both agree on Alex Jones.

Billy Cunningham?

741 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:10:29pm

re: #740 Cannadian Club Akbar

Billy Cunningham?

Can’t say I’ve heard much of him. I remember him being among the early pioneers of saying Barack Hussein Obama when he introduced McCain at an event or something.

742 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:10:36pm

re: #708 SanFranciscoZionist

As to your question of what Beck believes regarding the holy books of the Latter Day Saints being among the lost books along with the Dead Sea Scrolls, I have no idea. Only his fetid mind can reveal that labyrinth.

743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:00pm

G’night John-Boy!

744 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:06pm

re: #737 lostlakehiker

At the time of the Atlanta Olympic games, some secondary football games were held in Birmingham. Buses were arranged to take the crowd back from the stadium, across the inner city section, to the hotel district. As it happened, there were too few buses and too much chaos, and many people had to wait 2, 3, 4, 5 hours for their ride. A few dozen, in groups of a few here and a few there, decided to take their chances and walk the 2 or 3 miles.

Most were mugged.

Dare I ask what ‘most’ means in this case, and how you came to know this?

745 lostlakehiker  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:18pm

re: #721 reine.de.tout

I forget what it’s called, but yes, there is some sort of something that is supposed to be used as a last resort to shut down the well.

Honestly- I’m not convinced it would have helped in this case. To shut off the valve, you would have to know something was wrong. On this well, it seems everybody ignored all the normal warning signs, and kept on going. Nobody knew anything was wrong until the thing blew up.

BP official flew in. There was a raging furious argument, no doubt objecting to BP’s order to bypass the slower and safer method of bringing the well online.

The guy who was objecting is dead and can’t tell his side of the story. The other guy, well, he has every incentive to say nothing or say it was over girlfriends.

But just as with the Challenger, the guys at the level of technical experts who know something about their work, rather than just something about money and politics, don’t win those arguments. So reality wins them.

746 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:28pm

re: #743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

G’night John-Boy!

G’night, Paw!!

747 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:42pm

re: #742 Irenicum

As to your question of what Beck believes regarding the holy books of the Latter Day Saints being among the lost books along with the Dead Sea Scrolls, I have no idea. Only his fetid mind can reveal that labyrinth.

No, no, I didn’t mean Mormon scripture. I mean the books Glenn Beck writes.

748 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:11:57pm

re: #743 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

G’nite Mary Ellen!

749 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:12:13pm

re: #741 JasonA

Can’t say I’ve heard much of him. I remember him being among the early pioneers of saying Barack Hussein Obama when he introduced McCain at an event or something.

McCain stepped away from him for that.

750 Four More Tears  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:12:35pm

Yeah, time for me to slip off, too. Aloha, lizards.

751 laZardo  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:12:44pm

Brb lunch.

752 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:13:11pm

re: #747 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL! I didn’t get that at first. Yeah, his mania would tend to include them.

753 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:13:47pm

re: #721 reine.de.tout

I forget what it’s called, but yes, there is some sort of something that is supposed to be used as a last resort to shut down the well.

Honestly- I’m not convinced it would have helped in this case. To shut off the valve, you would have to know something was wrong. On this well, it seems everybody ignored all the normal warning signs, and kept on going. Nobody knew anything was wrong until the thing blew up.

It’s the infamous acoustic switch. Quite likely not a factor as the BOP was apparently activated.

754 lostlakehiker  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:14:25pm

re: #744 SanFranciscoZionist

Dare I ask what ‘most’ means in this case, and how you came to know this?

I was there, and it was on the evening news and, in much muted form, in the morning papers. We had been warned, and were re-warned the next day by putting us on notice about what had happened.

755 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:17:12pm

re: #754 lostlakehiker

I was there, and it was on the evening news and, in much muted form, in the morning papers. We had been warned, and were re-warned the next day by putting us on notice about what had happened.

Interesting.

756 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:17:23pm

And in a shameless plug, here’s my poem in honor of those who’ve served our nation.

757 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:17:39pm

re: #711 SanFranciscoZionist

But if Obama is Constantine in this version of things, does that mean that Beck at least believes that he’s a Christian?

//

No, Glenn is part of the army Constantine defeated at the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. His screen credit lists him as “Fourth Ass from the Right”.

758 lostlakehiker  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:17:46pm

re: #754 lostlakehiker

I was there, and it was on the evening news and, in much muted form, in the morning papers. We had been warned, and were re-warned the next day by putting us on notice about what had happened.

re: #744 SanFranciscoZionist

Dare I ask what ‘most’ means in this case, and how you came to know this?

And just to be clear about ‘most’, to the best of my knowledge and belief, all were mugged. But I cannot be certain of that, because it may be that someone walked and made it and didn’t let anyone know about it, so the officials didn’t have any evidence that anybody had made it unperturbed. And that was why I did not say “all”, instead of ‘most’.

759 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:18:31pm

re: #757 Dark_Falcon

I hear he had a crack team of fighters.

760 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:18:55pm

I’ve reached a new level in life. I can now actually read about famous pop stars I never heard of. Apparently, some of the are very famous.

761 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:19:15pm

re: #745 lostlakehiker

BP official flew in. There was a raging furious argument, no doubt objecting to BP’s order to bypass the slower and safer method of bringing the well online.

The guy who was objecting is dead and can’t tell his side of the story. The other guy, well, he has every incentive to say nothing or say it was over girlfriends.

But just as with the Challenger, the guys at the level of technical experts who know something about their work, rather than just something about money and politics, don’t win those arguments. So reality wins them.

They weren’t trying to bring the well online. They were capping it so they could leave.

762 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:19:22pm

re: #760 Gus 802

I’ve reached a new level in life. I can now actually read about famous pop stars I never heard of. Apparently, some of the them are very famous.

Damn it Jim.

PIMF

763 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:19:45pm

re: #762 Gus 802

He’s dead Jim.
///

764 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:24:07pm

Hmmm, this looks interesting…

[Link: www.thisisbrandx.com…]

765 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:25:06pm

OK kiddies. I’m gonna listen to a little music while my pizza cooks and head to bed. Nighty all. ( I meant I’m gonna eat the pizza when it is ready. Then bed. Don’t wanna burn the place down. Just sayin’)
/

766 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:26:26pm

re: #764 Gus 802

Um, where does the beer spout from?

767 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:26:43pm

re: #753 Bagua

It’s the infamous acoustic switch. Quite likely not a factor as the BOP was apparently activated.

AH.
OK.
Thanks.

768 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:27:09pm

re: #766 Irenicum

Um, where does the beer spout from?

Bloody ‘ell. Got me. /

769 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:27:52pm

re: #765 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good to know you’re being safe. Have a great night. And enjoy your pizza!

770 Dark_Falcon  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:28:53pm

I’m gonna sign off too. Stay safe, folks.

771 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:30:13pm

re: #770 Dark_Falcon

G’nite DF. Thanks for the kind words as usual. See ya on the other side.

772 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:31:47pm

re: #768 Gus 802

I got nuttin’ (else I get in deep trouble)

773 reine.de.tout  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:31:54pm

re: #745 lostlakehiker

BP official flew in. There was a raging furious argument, no doubt objecting to BP’s order to bypass the slower and safer method of bringing the well online.

The guy who was objecting is dead and can’t tell his side of the story. The other guy, well, he has every incentive to say nothing or say it was over girlfriends.

But just as with the Challenger, the guys at the level of technical experts who know something about their work, rather than just something about money and politics, don’t win those arguments. So reality wins them.

My husband is a mud engineer, and is very familiar with these types of discussions and arguments.

One reason this is the first incident in decades is that the technical experts DO usually win those arguments, on these rigs. My husband knows that his company will back him up - if he thinks a procedure is not safe and REFUSES to do the work.

This particular rig - lots of BP big-wigs were there to celebrate, oddly, their safety record. I don’t know for sure, of course, but I can’t help but wonder if that played a part in this, in that the BP guy in charge of the rig, the Company Man, was trying to impress the higher-ups with his toughness and decisiveness. Let me emphasize that that is all pure speculation on my part. But it came to my mind pretty early on as details began to emerge about that argument that took place.

774 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:33:22pm

re: #772 Irenicum

I got nuttin’ (else I get in deep trouble)

Yep. That’s what I was thinking.

They actually reminded me of the subway hand straps.

775 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:37:28pm

re: #774 Gus 802

Hmm, I’ve always liked subways….

776 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:40:05pm

re: #775 Irenicum

Hmm, I’ve always liked subways…

I rode in more than a few up until the ripe old age of 8.

777 abolitionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:40:50pm

NBC has a mini-glossary/guide:

What the heck’s a ‘top kill’?
Understanding the terminology and technology being used on the Gulf spill

778 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:45:17pm

re: #776 Gus 802

Well, since I grew up in ye olde NYC, I actually experienced riding in one that had chicken wire windows and thatched seats. Riding as a kid in shorts was not fun! But I will always treasure the memories.

779 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:46:50pm

re: #778 Irenicum

Well, since I grew up in ye olde NYC, I actually experienced riding in one that had chicken wire windows and thatched seats. Riding as a kid in shorts was not fun! But I will always treasure the memories.

Chicken wire windows? I don’t remember that. Unless you mean the old safety glass? I do remember the thatched seats. God I hated those. They were mostly like these cars…

[Link: www.nycsubway.org…]

780 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:48:07pm

More of those the old subway stock here…

[Link: www.nycsubway.org…]

781 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:49:49pm

re: #779 Gus 802

Yeah, they were the early version of safety glass. Chicken wire embedded in glass.

782 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:50:20pm

re: #781 Irenicum

Yeah, they were the early version of safety glass. Chicken wire embedded in glass.

Yep. Here’s those itchy and sticky seats…

[Link: www.nycsubway.org…]

783 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:52:45pm

re: #782 Gus 802

I hated wearing shorts in those trains. Wow. What a memory. My train memories were SIRT and we tended to have the oldest trains.

784 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:55:41pm

re: #783 Irenicum

I hated wearing shorts in those trains. Wow. What a memory. My train memories were SIRT and we tended to have the oldest trains.

We used to take it from Brooklyn into Manhattan. Catch it on 86th Street. Don’t remember the details since I was just a kid. I remember being stuck at the Jamaica station for hours sometimes.

785 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:55:43pm

re: #783 Irenicum

By the way SIRT stands for Staten Island Rapid Transit.

786 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:57:26pm

re: #785 Irenicum

By the way SIRT stands for Staten Island Rapid Transit.

Which would have been across the bay from me.

787 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:58:26pm

re: #782 Gus 802

Yep. Here’s those itchy and sticky seats…

[Link: www.nycsubway.org…]

That is awesome.

When did these go bye bye? And the chicken wire window?
I feel like I remember the wire window.

788 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:59:32pm

re: #777 abolitionist

NBC has a mini-glossary/guide:

What the heck’s a ‘top kill’?
Understanding the terminology and technology being used on the Gulf spill

Heh, full of mistakes. Amazing the lazy media can’t even get the basic mechanisms right a month into this thing.

789 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, May 28, 2010 10:59:33pm

OFF TOPIC (sort of)…

Found this on Craig’s List just now:

NO MEGA MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO!!! (hayward / castro valley)

Here we go with these fucken liberals again ready to roll out the red carpet for the jihadis. All this bullshit about how this is supposed to promote “understanding” and “healing”. Notice how these fucken liberals and muslims who are trying to push this mosque through are not listening at all to what the people who were most effected by 911 are saying. That being those who lost loved ones or narrowly escaped death ( injured or not ) on 911 are all opposed to this monstrosity.
Just another case of a muslim agenda being pushed through with the help of their useful idiot friends (liberals). This mosque will not be interpreted as some act of American kindness or tolerance by the radicals abroad or at home. It will be seen as yet another sign of weakness on the part of the West and it’s insufferable political correctness that is going to be the death of us all some day! If you were in some shark infested waters and somebody pulled up along side you in a boat what would you want them to do? Pull you out of the water or throw some bloody chum into it!? While we’re at it let’s make a another mega mosque … oh excuse me, “community center” in the Pentagon while were at it. They were hit on 911 too maybe they could use some of that “understanding” and “healing” as well.
And by the way, this thing is supposed to cost a hundred million dollars. where the fuck is that money coming from anyways!? think about it, what if some promenant national landmark structure in a muslim country had been destroyed by some group of Jews, Christians or Hindus who then ten years later wanted to build a religious structure next to that ground zero? oh yeah i’m sure they wouldn’t have a problem with that! Drawing cartoons of mohammed and the fucken sky is falling but not wanting a mega mosque next to ground zero makes us racist. yeah whatever!


In other news, I just fixed my glasses and the Census is almost over. For me anyway.

790 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:00:41pm

re: #784 Gus 802

I remember watching the scenery pass by as I headed towards the ferry on my way to Manhattan. Traveling by train is still, to my mind, one of the best ways to travel. The sound of a train whistle is still one of the best sounds in the world to me.

791 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:04:57pm

re: #790 Irenicum

I remember watching the scenery pass by as I headed towards the ferry on my way to Manhattan. Traveling by train is still, to my mind, one of the best ways to travel. The sound of a train whistle is still one of the best sounds in the world to me.

Heck yeah. I still love trains and will actually watch some train videos on Youtube. I’m not an expert but still. We took the train up to Boston once. Then there was the Strasburg RR steam train in Lancaster, PA. Rode on the Montreal Metro when we went up to Quebec to visit “Man and His World” which was the old World’s Fair site.

792 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:05:36pm

Well this has been a spectacularly nice evening for me gang. Now be nice to each other y’all!

793 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:06:07pm

re: #792 Irenicum

Well this has been a spectacularly nice evening for me gang. Now be nice to each other y’all!

Have a good one Irenicum.

794 Bagua  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:06:50pm

Top Kill

A procedure aimed at capping a leaking well by forcing heavy drilling liquid, or mud, down the riser, through the BOP and into the well.

Idiots, the mud is injected through the kill and choke lines, directly into the BOP, not “down the riser”.

Superficial MSM providing a guide.

795 Irenicum  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:07:06pm

re: #791 Gus 802

re: #793 Gus 802

Thanks man. It’s been a fun Friday night. You have a good one too.

796 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:07:57pm

re: #789 eclectic infidel

OFF TOPIC (sort of)…

Found this on Craig’s List just now:

NO MEGA MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO!!! (hayward / castro valley)


In other news, I just fixed my glasses and the Census is almost over. For me anyway.

Congrats! (my glasses need fixing too, I’m jealous)

Did anyone mention the strip club, porn shop, and bookie joint (OTB) that are all within 3 blocks of ground zero yet?

At least now, in terms of geography, we know where outrage begins. That point is somewhere between 12 blocks and 2. The exact spot remains a mystery, though. Would it be O.K. if the Islamic center, called Cordoba House, were to be put four blocks from ground zero? Or is that still too close? How about eight blocks away?

The intention here is not to be flippant. But the question of what constitutes proper respect for the dead of 9/11 has never been simple. For some, it seems to turn solely on religion, and that puts everyone on slippery constitutional terrain.

No one is known to have protested the fact that three blocks from ground zero, on Murray Street off West Broadway, there is a strip joint. It prefers to call itself a gentlemen’s club. A man stood on the street corner the other day handing out free passes to willing gentlemen.

On Church Street, around the corner from where Cordoba House would rise, there is a store that sells pornographic videos and an assortment of sex toys. A few doors east of the planned Islamic center, there is an Off-Track Betting office. Spilling onto the sidewalk in front of it the other day were men who would have been described in my old Bronx neighborhood as degenerate gamblers.

A strip joint, a porno store and a government-run bookie operation. No one has organized demonstrations to denounce those activities as defiling the memory of the men and women who died a few hundred yards away.

But an Islamic center strikes a nerve for some.

797 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:09:22pm

re: #796 iceweasel

Strip club, porn shop, and bookie joint! That’s Satan’s playground!

//

798 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:11:22pm

re: #797 Gus 802

Strip club, porn shop, and bookie joint! That’s Satan’s playground!

//

Satan’s playground is our genitals. I read it at WND. /

799 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:12:27pm

re: #789 eclectic infidel

OFF TOPIC (sort of)…

Found this on Craig’s List just now:

NO MEGA MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO!!! (hayward / castro valley)

In other news, I just fixed my glasses and the Census is almost over. For me anyway.

Couple of weeks ago I heard a noise in my hallway. Turned out to be the Census guy. Anyway, I said howdy and asked him if he had me down as having turned in the Census. He checked and said yes. Didn’t need to see me.

I was curious because I sent my first one in a little late and they sent me a second form. So, I figured they got the first one and ignored the second one. Which meant that if you turned in the first one late you really didn’t need to fill out another one. Funny enough some folks had a cow over getting a second request.

800 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:13:39pm

How dare they send me two Census request!11!!11

Fascism!11!!!

/

801 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:19:24pm

re: #796 iceweasel

It’s really hard for me to sort out all of the emotional reactions attached to this, but one thing I’m sure of is that people acting as though the rules for dealing with the site of a terrorist attack in a major urban center are written in stone, and obvious to even the dimmest is NOT helping.

802 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:27:30pm

re: #801 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s really hard for me to sort out all of the emotional reactions attached to this, but one thing I’m sure of is that people acting as though the rules for dealing with the site of a terrorist attack in a major urban center are written in stone, and obvious to even the dimmest is NOT helping.

I guess some people didn’t get the memo. Bush said it at least a million time, “we are not at war with Islam.” What the heck are these people going to say about the Muslim soldiers that have died while serving our country? There is one thing that is written in stone and it’s called, and I repeat, the 1st Amendment and the Establishment Clause.

803 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:30:30pm

re: #797 Gus 802

My liege!

804 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:32:07pm

re: #803 windupbird

My liege!

re: #803 windupbird

My liege!

Hey, he’s mine too!

805 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:32:08pm

re: #801 SanFranciscoZionist

So what I want to know is, if there’s an abortion doctor slain by a protestant in a neighborhood for religious reasons, does that mean there’s a no-church zone around that abortion doctor? Because I mean, SIGNIFICANCE LIKE TOTALLY

806 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:32:39pm

re: #802 Gus 802

I guess some people didn’t get the memo. Bush said it at least a million time, “we are not at war with Islam.” What the heck are these people going to say about the Muslim soldiers that have died while serving our country? There is one thing that is written in stone and it’s called, and I repeat, the 1st Amendment and the Establishment Clause.

Lot of people didn’t want to get the memo. Still don’t.

An all-out clash of cultures is much easier and more emotionally satisfying, especially if you’re pretty damn sure you’ll win.

807 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:33:28pm

gus is a super-warrior for research in general. He is our liege.

808 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:33:42pm

re: #804 iceweasel

Hey, he’s mine too!

I MUST TRAVEL ALONE

809 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:34:05pm

re: #807 iceweasel

gus is a super-warrior for research in general. He is our liege.

he really is a badass with getting the info!

810 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:34:27pm

re: #806 SanFranciscoZionist

Lot of people didn’t want to get the memo. Still don’t.

An all-out clash of cultures is much easier and more emotionally satisfying, especially if you’re pretty damn sure you’ll win.

Just like rooting for college football!

811 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:35:00pm

re: #807 iceweasel

gus is a super-warrior for research in general. He is our liege.

Hey! I’m actually searching for Muslim chaplains in the military. There are several.

812 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:35:40pm

OK, I have to get my ass to the Bridal Shower That Ate Sacramento tomorrow, so I’ll see you all later.

G’night.

813 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:36:08pm

re: #805 windupbird

So what I want to know is, if there’s an abortion doctor slain by a protestant in a neighborhood for religious reasons, does that mean there’s a no-church zone around that abortion doctor?

Certainly not around the abortion doctor. Cemeteries are often near churches, after all.

/too morbid?

814 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:36:30pm

re: #812 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I have to get my ass to the Bridal Shower That Ate Sacramento tomorrow, so I’ll see you all later.

G’night.

Good luck with those scones!

815 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:36:32pm

re: #812 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, I have to get my ass to the Bridal Shower That Ate Sacramento tomorrow, so I’ll see you all later.

G’night.

Have fun SFZ!

816 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:36:49pm

re: #799 Gus 802

Couple of weeks ago I heard a noise in my hallway. Turned out to be the Census guy. Anyway, I said howdy and asked him if he had me down as having turned in the Census. He checked and said yes. Didn’t need to see me.

I was curious because I sent my first one in a little late and they sent me a second form. So, I figured they got the first one and ignored the second one. Which meant that if you turned in the first one late you really didn’t need to fill out another one. Funny enough some folks had a cow over getting a second request.

I’m running into that right now. People having cows, that is.

When I tried to interview one person, all he did was hold up his index finger - that is, he wouldn’t tell me anything else save that there was only 1 person in his home. He laughed in my face and asked what I was going to do about it (he saw the multi-fold questionnaire) . I was honest. I told him I’d have to question his neighbors for information about HIM. Truly a priceless look on his face.

Then there’s the fun of finding a neighbor who is both civic minded and actually knows something about his or her neighbors. Another chore. Thankfully apt complexes have property management firms I can call.

I generally don’t get mad though, nor take it personally, but I’m rather appalled at just how hostile and/or uncooperative some people can be.

Eh, I get paid by the hour and I make my own schedule.

817 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:37:18pm

re: #809 windupbird

he really is a badass with getting the info!

We have loads of cool people who have depth of info in various areas. But Gus is the premier research person imo.

Anything or anyone or any lead you have, post it and ask Gus what’s up.

818 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:39:17pm

re: #817 iceweasel

We have loads of cool people who have depth of info in various areas. But Gus is the premier research person imo.

Anything or anyone or any lead you have, post it and ask Gus what’s up.

I’m the Lizard Information Officer.

All I need now is 12 cats, a pipe, and a stamp collection.

819 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:39:20pm

re: #815 Gus 802

Hey liege dude, you missed a bit of reminiscence of the old LFG days. Upthread.

820 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:43:08pm

re: #819 Nimed

Hey liege dude, you missed a bit of reminiscence of the old LFG days. Upthread.

I saw that. I was trying to think back since it wasn’t long ago. It reminded me of how many times I would just be quiet. There were a few people around you could never contradict otherwise you would get swarmed. Avanti, as I’m sure you’ve heard, used to get down dinged almost 100 percent of the time.

821 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:44:48pm

re: #818 Gus 802

I’m the Lizard Information Officer.

All I need now is 12 cats, a pipe, and a stamp collection.

They aren’t Ninja Cats, I hope?( SB’s link, featured page)

822 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:46:07pm

re: #821 iceweasel

They aren’t Ninja Cats, I hope?( SB’s link, featured page)

Tuxedo cats. They’re so cute.

823 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:52:52pm

re: #820 Gus 802

Avanti, as I’m sure you’ve heard, used to get down dinged almost 100 percent of the time.

I hadn’t yet. It must have been hard for the left of center pioneers, so to speak.

The occasional comment does give a sense of rich history to newcomers, though, which is a pretty neat side effect of it all. One could build a mythology around it… :)

824 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:54:00pm

re: #819 Nimed

Hey liege dude, you missed a bit of reminiscence of the old LFG days. Upthread.

They were always bringing up the moral equivalency meme. Once I said, “violence begets violence” and I backed off after getting jumped with “don’t give me that moral equivalency.” Funny, now they’re always doing the same. There were topics that would cause mayhem and would always cause a ruckus. Human rights was frowned upon. Gay rights was frowned upon.

Atheism was frowned upon. Feminism was always generalized to the extreme. There would be a few homophobic comments thrown in once in a while — not that often but noticeable. The answer to everything always involved military hardware and whenever they hated the topic in the last days they’d change the subject to guns. I never made the bottom ten though but once. It was a joke I made about John Wayne and it just made -1. It was a slow day.

825 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:55:45pm

re: #819 Nimed

Hey liege dude, you missed a bit of reminiscence of the old LFG days. Upthread.

oh now, THAT was hilarious.

826 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:56:47pm

re: #825 iceweasel

oh now, THAT was hilarious.

Remember that uber sexist divorce lawyer?

827 Nimed  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:58:17pm

re: #825 iceweasel

oh now, THAT was hilarious.

:) Thanks ice. I was really just trying to introduce a geeky which-commenter-is-a-Lost-character subject. But hey, things went in a different direction. A nice one, though.

828 iceweasel  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:58:49pm

re: #824 Gus 802

They were always bringing up the moral equivalency meme. Once I said, “violence begets violence” and I backed off after getting jumped with “don’t give me that moral equivalency.” Funny, now they’re always doing the same. There were topics that would cause mayhem and would always cause a ruckus. Human rights was frowned upon. Gay rights was frowned upon.

Atheism was frowned upon. Feminism was always generalized to the extreme. There would be a few homophobic comments thrown in once in a while — not that often but noticeable. The answer to everything always involved military hardware and whenever they hated the topic in the last days they’d change the subject to guns. I never made the bottom ten though but once. It was a joke I made about John Wayne and it just made -1. It was a slow day.

Honestly? I’m shocked it was only minus one.

There was such a nest of creationist types here once upon a time….

Looking at comment threads from years ago freaks me out.

829 Gus  Fri, May 28, 2010 11:59:36pm

And La Raza, La Raza, La Raza… Someone was always comparing La Raza to the KKK and I was always like WTF? Then I had to explain what the NCLR actually is a couple of billion times.

830 Nimed  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:01:15am

re: #824 Gus 802

:O
Hard environment for a lefty (or a moderate, apparently). No wonder left of center commenters are newer (on average) to LGF.

The years after 9/11 were really something, hu?

831 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:01:25am

re: #828 iceweasel

Honestly? I’m shocked it was only minus one.

There was such a nest of creationist types here once upon a time…

Looking at comment threads from years ago freaks me out.

Heck yeah. Especially when I read something from Fjordman. Gives me acid reflux. I was still seeing a few creationist trolls after I registered.

832 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:03:11am

re: #826 Gus 802

Remember that uber sexist divorce lawyer?

No! Wait, who? Was that the fucktard called Osama bin Squid or something?(Warning: name is probably wrong, it had some Osama-ish bit in it)

The asshole ‘men’s rights’ guy? Landed the bottom ten?

You and I and maybe Salamantis kicked his ass?

833 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:04:00am

re: #830 Nimed

:O
Hard environment for a lefty (or a moderate, apparently). No wonder left of center commenters are newer (on average) to LGF.

The years after 9/11 were really something, hu?

The years after 911 was not unlike PTSD. Emotionally? For everyone. Even if you weren’t directly impacted. Some folks got stuck in what could be called hate mode and never left.

834 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:06:05am

re: #832 iceweasel

No! Wait, who? Was that the fucktard called Osama bin Squid or something?(Warning: name is probably wrong, it had some Osama-ish bit in it)

The asshole ‘men’s rights’ guy? Landed the bottom ten?

You and I and maybe Salamantis kicked his ass?

I don’t remember his nick but it was you, Salamantis, maybe SFZ, me and couple of others. A real brainiac with a big ego. He was arguing from some kind of far-right men’s rights perspective and basically saying women are always wrong when it comes to divorce.

835 tnguitarist  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:07:11am

Good evening. Anyone still up?

836 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:07:12am

re: #833 Gus 802

The years after 911 was not unlike PTSD. Emotionally? For everyone. Even if you weren’t directly impacted. Some folks got stuck in what could be called hate mode and never left.

In future years we’ll admit that the whole country underwent a madness in the wake of 9-11. The right and the left.

There are still people completely unhinged by it, and most of those aren’t the people who were there.

837 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:08:08am

re: #835 tnguitarist

Good evening. Anyone still up?

Nope. This is Gus 802 2000 V2™. I have taken over his body.

//

838 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:08:33am

re: #834 Gus 802

I don’t remember his nick but it was you, Salamantis, maybe SFZ, me and couple of others. A real brainiac with a big ego. He was arguing from some kind of far-right men’s rights perspective and basically saying women are always wrong when it comes to divorce.

Ha! THAT guy— yeah, same guy.
I do remember. :)

We had fun!

839 tnguitarist  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:09:48am

My first born graduated high school tonight. Gah!

840 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:12:06am

re: #836 iceweasel

In future years we’ll admit that the whole country underwent a madness in the wake of 9-11. The right and the left.

There are still people completely unhinged by it, and most of those aren’t the people who were there.

Right. I know personally I was like “OK, let’s go kick some ass.” War in Iraq - check. War in Afghanistan - check. Post election 2008 was a watershed because I realized that while I was behind military action and hate taxes I didn’t sign up for the Phylis Schlafly school of thought with a hard on for Mexicans, gays, environmentalism, social liberalism, etc.

841 abolitionist  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:13:52am

re: #839 tnguitarist

My first born graduated high school tonight. Gah!

Congrats! (Plural)

842 Nimed  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:14:04am

re: #836 iceweasel

In future years we’ll admit that the whole country underwent a madness in the wake of 9-11. The right and the left.

There are still people completely unhinged by it, and most of those aren’t the people who were there.

Very, very well put.

Going to the deli. bbl.

843 tnguitarist  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:14:48am

re: #834 Gus 802

There was a guy on one of the talk radio shows the other night……He wanted to sue so the media would stop covering the John Edwards story. The media keeps talking about Edwards’, ahem, manhood and this guy wants it stopped. He believes it is affecting every marriage in the country because there’s no way we can live up to that standard once the ladies have heard about ole John. I’ll see if I can dig it up.

844 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:15:26am

re: #838 iceweasel

Ha! THAT guy— yeah, same guy.
I do remember. :)

We had fun!

Oh. It’s too bad Salamantis split over that whole AGW argument — which was more like a fight. He had an interesting take on things and was rather sharp.

845 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:23:00am

re: #840 Gus 802

Right. I know personally I was like “OK, let’s go kick some ass.” War in Iraq - check. War in Afghanistan - check. Post election 2008 was a watershed because I realized that while I was behind military action and hate taxes I didn’t sign up for the Phylis Schlafly school of thought with a hard on for Mexicans, gays, environmentalism, social liberalism, etc.

Exactly. On this site I’m probably considered ‘hardlefty’ but guess what— I supported the war in Iraq in the beginning, and when many of my peers/social group/cohort/colleagues/family whatever did not.

And when I was antiwar, I didn’t sign up for Cindy Sheehan and other random idiot stunts.

The Party of No Party could potentially haul in cash…

846 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:33:40am

re: #845 iceweasel

Exactly. On this site I’m probably considered ‘hardlefty’ but guess what— I supported the war in Iraq in the beginning, and when many of my peers/social group/cohort/colleagues/family whatever did not.

And when I was antiwar, I didn’t sign up for Cindy Sheehan and other random idiot stunts.

The Party of No Party could potentially haul in cash…

Anyone that thinks LGF is hard left now needs to get their head examined. OK, maybe not that but they’re obviously ignorant as to what a hard lefty is like. A hard lefty wouldn’t be happy at LGF — at least a fully fledged hard leftist.

That internet pantloads will call LGF hard left but that’s just a dumb attempt at flinging an insult.

When I was antiwar during the first Gulf War I marched to my own drummer. There were the hard leftists around but I couldn’t hang with them. It’s almost opposite response to the wingnuts while being “pro” war in that while I was against the first Gulf War I didn’t want to sign up with International ANSWER and all that jazz.

I’ve since changed my mind about the Gulf War. Responding against Iraq for the invasion of Kuwait was a good move even though Kuwait is a pain in the ass from time to time.

847 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:34:07am

re: #844 Gus 802

Oh. It’s too bad Salamantis split over that whole AGW argument — which was more like a fight. He had an interesting take on things and was rather sharp.

Yep. I liked him a lot.

He had some kind of wacky meltdown over AGW over several weeks.
Smart guy but a guy in love with the idea of himself as a smart guy. So on AGW he had this whole dick-swinging thing. Couldn’t back down.

I believe he sent CJ an email flounce of some sort.

848 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:37:28am

re: #847 iceweasel

Yep. I liked him a lot.

He had some kind of wacky meltdown over AGW over several weeks.
Smart guy but a guy in love with the idea of himself as a smart guy. So on AGW he had this whole dick-swinging thing. Couldn’t back down.

I believe he sent CJ an email flounce of some sort.

“I hereby draw a line in the sand with my genius penis!”

I saw that go down from the corner of my eye. They had their battle in a couple of dead AGW threads.

849 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:38:44am

re: #846 Gus 802

Anyone that thinks LGF is hard left now needs to get their head examined. OK, maybe not that but they’re obviously ignorant as to what a hard lefty is like. A hard lefty wouldn’t be happy at LGF — at least a fully fledged hard leftist.

That internet pantloads will call LGF hard left but that’s just a dumb attempt at flinging an insult.

When I was antiwar during the first Gulf War I marched to my own drummer. There were the hard leftists around but I couldn’t hang with them. It’s almost opposite response to the wingnuts while being “pro” war in that while I was against the first Gulf War I didn’t want to sign up with International ANSWER and all that jazz.

I’ve since changed my mind about the Gulf War. Responding against Iraq for the invasion of Kuwait was a good move even though Kuwait is a pain in the ass from time to time.

I was pretty young and I supported the Gulf War.
To be honest I really didn’t know enough to be informed on supporting it or not. It was a kneejerk supportive thing.

850 iceweasel  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:40:12am

re: #848 Gus 802

“I hereby draw a line in the sand with my genius penis!”

I saw that go down from the corner of my eye. They had their battle in a couple of dead AGW threads.

Genius penis is now a tag I’ll use. Brilliant.

851 Gus  Sat, May 29, 2010 12:41:28am

re: #849 iceweasel

I was pretty young and I supported the Gulf War.
To be honest I really didn’t know enough to be informed on supporting it or not. It was a kneejerk supportive thing.

I probably didn’t put much thought into it in not supporting it. Maybe I thought it was the cool thing to do since I was still under 30. I was by no means an activist about it.

852 ryannon  Sat, May 29, 2010 3:49:30am

re: #721 reine.de.tout

I forget what it’s called, but yes, there is some sort of something that is supposed to be used as a last resort to shut down the well.

Honestly- I’m not convinced it would have helped in this case. To shut off the valve, you would have to know something was wrong. On this well, it seems everybody ignored all the normal warning signs, and kept on going. Nobody knew anything was wrong until the thing blew up.

The above, and all the other variations on the theme of ‘we knew something was wrong but went ahead just the same’ (sub-theme: there was a conflict between BP management and the on-site supervisors and this kind of shit happens every day in drilling operations) is exactly why - prepare to throw your rocks at me - I’m unconditionally opposed to building any generation nuclear powerplants. Yes, shit does happen, except when it’s an nuclear event, all bets concerning remediation are off.

We know something about drilling oil wells - even deep at sea. We’ve been doing it for years and have acquired a lot of experience and experienced people. Up until now, 99 percent of the operations have gone without a hitch (except for the ‘minimal pollution’ and undersea environmental damage you don’t read about).

Instituting a large-scale nuclear generation program would require training and experience we simply don’t possess. Workers would be trained, but by people having absolutely no knowledge of real working conditions and dangers. The technology may be relatively safe and the people running it relatively skilled, but absolutely human. Sooner or later and as sure as death or taxes, we’d have a BP-type situation, and it would be beyond horrible.

Hyperion? The idea sounds good until you look at their website, particularly the “Safety” and “Opposition” sections, which are so full of half-truths and distortions as to be laughable. The sum of the argumentation is basically “Well, here’s a lot of very debatable info that we’re presenting as unassailable truth. But we know that most of you are too lazy or dumb to do the research necessary to see that we’ve put a monstrous spin on our arguments.”

It would take hundreds of thousands of Hyperion and Hyperion-type reactors dotted all over the country to generate even 50 percent of our energy needs. I personally could live with the idea of a few hundred, as long as they were in your back yard and not mine. But when you get to figures like hundreds of thousands, including different conceptions created by competing companies, you are asking for trouble.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

853 ryannon  Sat, May 29, 2010 3:53:36am

re: #852 ryannon

Gets out of Dodge fast.

Slithers over to the infamous but oh-so-friendly-and-fun Morning Wingnut Thread!

854 Buck  Sat, May 29, 2010 9:37:48am

Same shit? I wonder if we can call Maher a racist?


Last night, Bill Maher lamented President Barack Obama’s “professorial” personality, noting with a hint of betrayal in his voice that he was expecting a “real black president”– you know, the kind that “lifts up his shirt so they can see the gun in his pants.”

855 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, May 29, 2010 9:58:32am

re: #854 Buck

You don’t see any difference between the two statements at all?

Congrats on finding something you can remotely compare it to to be able to defend Robertson’s racism, though. Must have taken awhile.

856 Buck  Sat, May 29, 2010 10:03:14am

re: #855 Obdicut

You don’t see any difference between the two statements at all?

Congrats on finding something you can remotely compare it to to be able to defend Robertson’s racism, though. Must have taken awhile.

Awhile? I didn’t have to search, it just happened last night!

I am NOT defending any racism (Robertson, or Mehar). Why the fuck would you say that I am defending racism?

857 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, May 29, 2010 3:01:56pm

re: #856 Buck

Awhile? I didn’t have to search, it just happened last night!

I am NOT defending any racism (Robertson, or Mehar). Why the fuck would you say that I am defending racism?

Because, Buck, you do this false equivalence dance all the time. Even if you accepted that what Maher did was the same as what Robertson did— which it isn’t, at worst it’s a racist joke that specifically exempts Obama, instead of portraying him with the black steroetypes— what the fuck does it matter? Do you need to list every racist statement by anyone, ever, or can you just engage with what the actual topic of the thread is?

858 Buck  Sat, May 29, 2010 6:58:16pm

re: #857 Obdicut

Because, Buck, you do this false equivalence dance all the time. Even if you accepted that what Maher did was the same as what Robertson did— which it isn’t, at worst it’s a racist joke that specifically exempts Obama, instead of portraying him with the black steroetypes— what the fuck does it matter? Do you need to list every racist statement by anyone, ever, or can you just engage with what the actual topic of the thread is?

Sorry officer, I didn’t know this very new rule about what I am allowed to post and not post. I am so glad you could tell me this very specific rule that seems to apply only to me. I did think that I was engaged in the actual topic.

Are stereotypes about blacks ONLY racist if they are specifically including Obama? Wow…. that is also new to me. I thought that stereotyping African Americans as gangsters would be racist …. even if it excludes Obama.

(You need to figure out why you have this need to attack me…. There is no good reason for this personal attack. Other than an unhealthy obsession).

859 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, May 29, 2010 8:20:04pm

re: #858 Buck

Sorry officer, I didn’t know this very new rule about what I am allowed to post and not post

There’s no rule.

I am so glad you could tell me this very specific rule that seems to apply only to me. I did think that I was engaged in the actual topic.

You were engaged in finding someone else, anyone else, that you could point to and say “Hey, what about this guy being racist?”.

Are stereotypes about blacks ONLY racist if they are specifically including Obama? Wow… that is also new to me. I thought that stereotyping African Americans as gangsters would be racist … even if it excludes Obama.

Sure. Like I said, at worst, it is a racist joke Maher made. That’s why I said that— I’m not sure why you can’t read what I wrote, where I clearly say that.


(You need to figure out why you have this need to attack me… There is no good reason for this personal attack. Other than an unhealthy obsession).

Playing interwebs psychiatrist is a really stupid occupation, Buck.

860 Buck  Sat, May 29, 2010 9:18:12pm

re: #859 Obdicut

You were engaged in finding someone else, anyone else, that you could point to and say “Hey, what about this guy being racist?”.

Nope…. not just anyone. I was pointing out someone on the LEFT who thinks making racist jokes is OK. A little bit of balance,,,,

Just try and imagine if Rush had said the exact same thing Maher said….

But really… We can see that I was not defending racism. Just making a comment…. on topic…(Racist comments)…. and NOT looking for moral equivalence. That would have looked like “Robertson isn’t a racist because Maher said something similar, and he isn’t a racist”. If I said anything, it was… “hey look at this, a similarly racist comment.” I was saying that BOTH were racists.

Oh, and then you attacked me…basically called me a racist for defending Robertson (which I wasn’t doing at all).

Over and out…. unless you continue to personally attack me…. I will not respond to you.

861 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, May 30, 2010 8:10:15am

re: #860 Buck

Nope… not just anyone. I was pointing out someone on the LEFT who thinks making racist jokes is OK. A little bit of balance,,,

Exactly what I said you were doing. You needed, as you always do, to engage in a tu quoque defense of racism on the right.


Oh, and then you attacked me…basically called me a racist for defending Robertson (which I wasn’t doing at all).

No, I didn’t call you a racist, and it’s stupid of you to say that I did.


Over and out… unless you continue to personally attack me… I will not respond to you.

That’s your own choice, Buck. It’s not like I’m the only person who points out what you do. You’re going to wind up not responding to a lot of people if you take that attitude.


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