1 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:31:53pm

what the heck was that !?!?

I vote for cutely insane as the right description.

2 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:46:06pm

Charles, where do you find this stuff?

3 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:48:53pm

Damn, when will they have closed captioning for this stuff?… I can’t understand them…

Being hearing impaired impairs you.

4 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:49:09pm

re: #2 Fozzie Bear

At the finding place.

5 darthstar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:52:21pm

Howdy, folks…just got back from Bean Hollow beach. Banjo, sadly, lost his favorite indestructible chuck-it ball…because some HOOMANS decided to descend on his normally private cove and distracted him, and the ball slowly drifted out beyond the rocks to a point where I didn’t feel safe letting him go after it. Anyhoo…home now and loading my wife’s iPod with episodes of The Splendid Table and RadioLab as she enjoys listening to these on her drive home from work.

Cheers.

6 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:55:06pm

re: #5 darthstar

Howdy, folks…just got back from Bean Hollow beach. Banjo, sadly, lost his favorite indestructible chuck-it ball…because some HOOMANS decided to descend on his normally private cove and distracted him, and the ball slowly drifted out beyond the rocks to a point where I didn’t feel safe letting him go after it. Anyhoo…home now and loading my wife’s iPod with episodes of The Splendid Table and RadioLab as she enjoys listening to these on her drive home from work.

Cheers.

When I was 6 or 7 I had a blow up raft get caught by the wind and took off toward the Skyway Bridge. I cried.

7 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 3:56:36pm

re: #6 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I was 6 or 7 I had a blow up raft get caught by the wind and took off toward the Skyway Bridge. I cried.

When I was I kid, my parents took away my anti-matter generator.
I was sad.
:(
Hi, everyone!
Neat vid.

8 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:00:52pm

re: #7 Varek Raith

When I was I kid, my parents took away my anti-matter generator.
I was sad.
:(
Hi, everyone!
Neat vid.

Thank you for laughing at my emotional scar.
/

9 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:01:12pm

I would watch “The Lightning Bolt & Cactus Show”.

I’m just sayin’.

10 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:04:42pm

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thank you for laughing at my emotional scar.
/

I like kicking ‘em when there down!
/Nixon voice.

11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:06:47pm

Maybe, just once, someone will call me ‘Sir’ without adding, ‘You’re making a scene.’
Homer Simpson

12 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:09:43pm

I’m not a bad guy! I work hard, and I love my kids. So why should I spend half my Sunday hearing about how I’m going to Hell?
Homer Simpson

13 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:09:49pm

re: #7 Varek Raith

When I was I kid, my parents took away my anti-matter generator.
I was sad.
:(
Hi, everyone!
Neat vid.

When I was a kid, my parents were killed by an anti-matter chuck-it ball.

14 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:11:50pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

When I was a kid, my parents were killed by an anti-matter chuck-it ball.

Dude!
That must’ve taken out the whole neighborhood!
(2 ounces of anti-matter = 42kilotons of tnt)

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:17:38pm

Beer: The cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems
Homer Simpson

16 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:19:19pm

re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar

“Sometimes when I reflect on all the beer I drink, I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. I think, “It is better to drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.”-Babe Ruth

17 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:20:47pm

Trying is the first step towards failure.
- Homer Simpson

18 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:22:31pm

Oh look, another piece of shit liberal facing ethics charges.

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:22:47pm

re: #17 Varek Raith

Trying is the first step towards failure.
- Homer Simpson


If something’s hard to do, then it’s not worth doing
Homer Simpson

20 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:23:49pm

re: #18 TheMatrix31

Oh look, another piece of shit liberal facing ethics charges.

Wow dude. Don’t hold back. Tell us what your gut compels you to do. Let it all out.

21 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:24:10pm

I’m in no condition to drive…wait! I shouldn’t listen to myself, I’m drunk!
- Homer Simpson

22 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:24:15pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

When I was a kid, my parents were killed by an anti-matter chuck-it ball.

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

23 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:24:19pm

re: #20 Fozzie Bear

Thanks for the advice.

24 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:26:03pm

I hate the fucking Yankees.

25 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:26:34pm

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

“Wow dude. Don’t hold back. Tell us what your gut compels you to do. Let it all out.”

/

26 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:04pm

re: #18 TheMatrix31

quite the bomb thrower, aren’t we?

27 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:14pm

re: #20 Fozzie Bear

Hey, Fozzie, we bought a male Beta this past week and I was wondering if you could help me with a couple of questions?

28 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:25pm

re: #18 TheMatrix31

Oh look, another piece of shit liberal facing ethics charges.

Let me try saying that about a conservative and see how how it all works out…

29 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:46pm

re: #26 BryanS

Not really. Just sharing a story and giving my opinion. What’s the big deal?

30 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:54pm

re: #26 BryanS

quite the bomb thrower, aren’t we?

Just our resident MrIHateAllLiberalsMcCrankypants.

31 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:27:56pm

re: #28 JasonA

Updings galore, probably lol.

32 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:28:05pm

re: #18 TheMatrix31

I’d love to check under the hood on all of them.

Rangel certainly deserves whatever he gets… of course I could live like he did until I’m 80 then face whatever they want to throw at me.

33 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:28:29pm

re: #18 TheMatrix31

Oh look, another piece of shit liberal facing ethics charges.

Oh, look, another piece-of-shit asshole on the Internet being a partisan shit-disturber.

Fuck you.

34 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:29:20pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Didn’t expect that from you, SFZ.

35 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:29:30pm

re: #33 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, look, another piece-of-shit asshole on the Internet being a partisan shit-disturber.

Fuck you.

Hello, Mrs Sunshine!
:)

36 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:30:02pm

re: #34 TheMatrix31

Perhaps she is tired of your predictable shite.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:30:20pm

re: #34 TheMatrix31

Didn’t expect that from you, SFZ.

Why? Because I try to keep an even keel and be open-minded, you figure that I won’t respond to insults in kind?

38 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:31:05pm

re: #28 JasonA

Let me try saying that about a conservative and see how how it all works out…

If the conservative is as guilty as Rangel? Have at it.

39 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:31:16pm

*Note to self; Do not piss off SFZ*
:)

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:32:04pm

re: #38 fat bastard vegetarian

If the conservative is as guilty as Rangel? Have at it.

He’s talking about Waters.

And people here would be rightly annoyed if that person were referred to in such terms, no matter how damn guilty he was.

41 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:32:04pm

Okay well, its 4:30. Think I can shower and head to work by 5? Damn.

Later dudes.

42 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:33:05pm

Somebody just got told.

43 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:36:52pm

re: #34 TheMatrix31

Didn’t expect that from you, SFZ.

You are just that much of an asshole, Matrix.

44 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:39:03pm

re: #41 TheMatrix31

Okay well, its 4:30. Think I can shower and head to work by 5? Damn.

Later dudes.

Aw. Work getting in the way of your precious trolling time?

45 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:40:17pm

I love this thread so much.

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:40:25pm

re: #44 JasonA

Aw. Work getting in the way of your precious trolling time?

Let it go. He’s gone.

47 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:41:32pm

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let it go. He’s gone.

Still logged in, though.

48 wee fury  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:42:08pm

Interesting video.

49 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:42:31pm

As Kwai Chang Caine said to the cowboys who had just had their horses shit in his hat:

“No, it is not time for a fight, it is time for a flashback.”

50 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:43:42pm

Y’all are right. He could’ve just left it at “piece of shit”.

Either side of the fence who does such things are fitting of the moniker.

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:43:43pm

re: #47 JasonA

Still logged in, though.

My bad. Thought he was gone.

52 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:45:30pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I love this thread so much.

I love this thread so much.

53 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:46:14pm

Now that I’ve cleared the air with my bi-annual fit of fury, what’s going on with Waters? Is this just coinkidink? Is the administration cleaning house before the midterms? What’s up?

54 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:46:32pm

re: #52 wrenchwench

I love this thread so much.

I think all cats are OCD.

55 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:47:20pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

Now that I’ve cleared the air with my bi-annual fit of fury, what’s going on with Waters? Is this just coinkidink? Is the administration cleaning house before the midterms? What’s up?

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

56 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:48:10pm

re: #27 prairiefire

Hey, Fozzie, we bought a male Beta this past week and I was wondering if you could help me with a couple of questions?

Well, fresh water, tap water is fine if dechlorinated, room temperature (70-75F), close to neutral pH.

Bettas are labyrinth fish, which basically means they can breathe air, and often do. They are often found in rice paddies. They do NOT need very clean water, and will actually fare less well if you change too much of the water, too often. Filters are also unnecessary if you only have a Betta. While males are extremely aggressive with other males, they are easily bullied by other species. Thus, they are best kept alone. Also, the males make neat bubble nests at the surface of the water if the water is still enough.

That’s about all I know about Bettas. I know much more about corals, frankly, than I do about freshwater fish.

57 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:49:12pm

re: #55 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

Yeah, I get that part. Why are they going after her now, d’ya think?

58 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:49:26pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

Is it her husband that is corrupt? My mum will be upset if Rep. Waters is dirty.[Link: www.myfoxdc.com…]

59 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:49:58pm

re: #54 SanFranciscoZionist

I think all cats are OCD.

Nah. You think so?

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:50:18pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I get that part. Why are they going after her now, d’ya think?

Democrats eating their own for personal gain?

61 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:50:23pm

re: #56 Fozzie Bear

Well, fresh water, tap water is fine if dechlorinated, room temperature (70-75F), close to neutral pH.

Bettas are labyrinth fish, which basically means they can breathe air, and often do. They are often found in rice paddies. They do NOT need very clean water, and will actually fare less well if you change too much of the water, too often. Filters are also unnecessary if you only have a Betta. While males are extremely aggressive with other males, they are easily bullied by other species. Thus, they are best kept alone. Also, the males make neat bubble nests at the surface of the water if the water is still enough.

That’s about all I know about Bettas. I know much more about corals, frankly, than I do about freshwater fish.

Rather than go through the hassle with dechlorination tablets and such, I just got things of distilled water for my fish tank when I had one for my classroom.

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:51:08pm

re: #58 prairiefire

Is it her husband that is corrupt? My mum will be upset if Rep. Waters is dirty.[Link: www.myfoxdc.com…]

Sounds like the husband is definitely part of the problem. Tell your mum to blame it on him, if will make her feel better. :)

63 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:51:33pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

Rather than go through the hassle with dechlorination tablets and such, I just got things of distilled water for my fish tank when I had one for my classroom.

When i was in 1st grade, we had a hampster. It bit my nose. Not kidding.

64 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:51:51pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I love this thread so much.

re: #52 wrenchwench

I love this thread so much.

Nothing is better than Legendary Thread.

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:51:56pm

re: #63 Cannadian Club Akbar

When i was in 1st grade, we had a hampster. It bit my nose. Not kidding.

Your childhood was just a vale of tears, wasn’t it, CCA?

66 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:52:18pm

re: #56 Fozzie Bear

Thanks!
I think I might be changing his water out too much. Using natural spring water, I have changed out 1/3 the water twice in a week.

Also, we are really allergic to mold, so I did not buy a plant to put in his little bowl. He is a beautiful, wee mighty beastie. I hope we can keep him alive for awhile.

67 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:52:39pm

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist

Your childhood was just a vale of tears, wasn’t it, CCA?

I was just thinking that!!
/I really hope my dad beat me///

68 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:52:44pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Sounds like the husband is definitely part of the problem. Tell your mum to blame it on him, if will make her feel better. :)

Believe me, it will.

69 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:53:46pm

re: #53 SanFranciscoZionist

I seem to remember hearing about this with Waters a couple of years ago… but it takes a while to investigate, etc…

Sometimes, it is good to say, “Yep. I did it! I resign!” and get the hell out of the way. Very unfortunate timing for the Dems.

Ted Stevens was dirty too, IMO. His stuff hit in July of ‘08. Got him out of office though.

70 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:53:47pm

re: #61 SanFranciscoZionist

Rather than go through the hassle with dechlorination tablets and such, I just got things of distilled water for my fish tank when I had one for my classroom.

That can work well, but it’s often best to add some hardness to the water. Distilled water (as well as reverse-osmosis and/or deonized water) is extremely unstable in terms of pH, because it contains no metals which function as pH buffers.

If it is working well for some time, stick with it. Bettas do prefer somewhat softer (i.e., water with less dissolved minerals) water, but too soft (i.e., completely demineralized such as is the case with distilled) can be trouble.

However… once again… the cardinal rule of fish husbandry is to maintain stability. If it has been working for some time, don’t mess with what is working.

71 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:53:57pm

re: #57 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah, I get that part. Why are they going after her now, d’ya think?

well, it doesn’t appear to be political—from the yahoo news article:

The committee unanimously voted to establish an investigative subcommittee to gather evidence and determine whether Waters violated standards of conduct.

Looking at the allegation, it seems like it could have just been an oversight, not anything intentionally corrupt. But appearances of impropriety can’t be whitewashed, or they end up becoming a bigger political story.


Waters came under scrutiny after former Treasury Department officials said she helped arrange a meeting between regulators and executives at Boston-based OneUnited Bank without mentioning her husband’s financial ties to the institution.

Her husband, Sidney Williams, held at least $250,000 in the bank’s stock and previously had served on its board. Waters’ spokesman has said Williams was no longer on the board when the meeting was arranged.


Seems like a pretty minor thing to me.

72 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:55:23pm

re: #66 prairiefire

Thanks!
I think I might be changing his water out too much. Using natural spring water, I have changed out 1/3 the water twice in a week.

Also, we are really allergic to mold, so I did not buy a plant to put in his little bowl. He is a beautiful, wee mighty beastie. I hope we can keep him alive for awhile.

Kristin Gore’s first novel features a Senate aide who keeps losing Betas. They die on her. It turns out that the guy who sells them to her is a North Korean agent, and the Secret Service takes her in for questioning because she keeps going to his store so frequently to replace the Betas and get supplements and toys and such for the new ones.

73 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:55:58pm

re: #69 fat bastard vegetarian

I seem to remember hearing about this with Waters a couple of years ago… but it takes a while to investigate, etc…

Sometimes, it is good to say, “Yep. I did it! I resign!” and get the hell out of the way. Very unfortunate timing for the Dems.

Ted Stevens was dirty too, IMO. His stuff hit in July of ‘08. Got him out of office though.

I am so glad Stevens is gone. He and Senator Byrd were horrible about the big pork projects.

74 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:56:20pm

re: #66 prairiefire

Thanks!
I think I might be changing his water out too much. Using natural spring water, I have changed out 1/3 the water twice in a week.

Also, we are really allergic to mold, so I did not buy a plant to put in his little bowl. He is a beautiful, wee mighty beastie. I hope we can keep him alive for awhile.

That’s an acceptable water change regimen. Just don’t go much about 1/3 at a time, and you should be fine.

As for plants, check out peace lilies. They do very well with roots submerged, and have a waxy coating which discourages mold/mildew growth. They also have a tendency to use the fish waste as fertilizer, which helps clean the water, albeit very slowly relative to how fast waste builds up.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:56:32pm

re: #69 fat bastard vegetarian

I seem to remember hearing about this with Waters a couple of years ago… but it takes a while to investigate, etc…

Sometimes, it is good to say, “Yep. I did it! I resign!” and get the hell out of the way. Very unfortunate timing for the Dems.

Ted Stevens was dirty too, IMO. His stuff hit in July of ‘08. Got him out of office though.

I’m just wondering if they’re figuring this will look good going into the Midterms…Democrats sweep clean, knock out corruption…yadada.

76 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:56:47pm

re: #72 SanFranciscoZionist

OMG! SHE WRITES FOR FUTURAMA!

77 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:57:09pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m just wondering if they’re figuring this will look good going into the Midterms…Democrats sweep clean, knock out corruption…yadada.

Worked for the Dems when they went after Delay.

78 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:58:07pm

Arizona is soliciting donations for defending that immigration law

DONATIONS! Man the balls on these people

79 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:58:12pm

re: #50 fat bastard vegetarian

I have been an critic of hers since she encouraged the Rodney King rioters with her “no justice no peace” TV appearance. I for one will be glad when she is gone. Her district can do much better.

re: #34 TheMatrix31
Seems appropriate to me. Broad brush crap just not gonna play out well for ya here. Just not gonna.

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:58:34pm

re: #70 Fozzie Bear

That can work well, but it’s often best to add some hardness to the water. Distilled water (as well as reverse-osmosis and/or deonized water) is extremely unstable in terms of pH, because it contains no metals which function as pH buffers.

If it is working well for some time, stick with it. Bettas do prefer somewhat softer (i.e., water with less dissolved minerals) water, but too soft (i.e., completely demineralized such as is the case with distilled) can be trouble.

However… once again… the cardinal rule of fish husbandry is to maintain stability. If it has been working for some time, don’t mess with what is working.

I inherited these fish, and just did what the last teacher who had them had been doing. They weren’t Betas, I don’t know exactly what they were. Small brown freshwater fish, in a self-contained tank. There were some snails who kept it clean.

When I left the school, I gave them to the science teacher next door.

She also had turtles, a salt-water tank, frogs, and for a short time, two baby hedgehogs, so I figured she’d be good to them.

81 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:59:13pm

re: #71 BryanS

Seems like a pretty minor thing to me.

What about presumed innocent? Although I think folks hear these stories and shout “Crook” automatically.

She said she disclosed her husband’s relationship to the feds before the bank received funds (stimulus money I think). So it sounds like it could be a lot of nonsense. But even if she is found to have no ethical violations, she’ll be remembered as having them anyway.

82 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:59:16pm

re: #34 TheMatrix31

Didn’t expect that from you, SFZ.

You deserved it

83 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:59:40pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m just wondering if they’re figuring this will look good going into the Midterms…Democrats sweep clean, knock out corruption…yadada.

I still maintain that if we found a prison with exactly 535 inmates, we could swap them with Congress and not be that much worse off.

But at least when they looked at us and said, “I am a scorpion, it is my nature” we wouldn’t be so fucking surprised.”

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 4:59:43pm

re: #73 BryanS

I am so glad Stevens is gone. He and Senator Byrd were horrible about the big pork projects.

And Murtha, although not a Senator.

85 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:00:51pm

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

And Murtha, although not a Senator.

UGGGH MURTHA :(

Do not like that guy

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:01:08pm

re: #73 BryanS

I am so glad Stevens is gone. He and Senator Byrd were horrible about the big pork projects.

If someone had put a proposal before Congress to build a machine to destroy the Universe, Byrd would have fought for it, as long as it could be built in West Virginia.

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:01:44pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

If someone had put a proposal before Congress to build a machine to destroy the Universe, Byrd would have fought for it, as long as it could be built in West Virginia.

And coal fired.

88 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:02:12pm

re: #81 marjoriemoon

What about presumed innocent? Although I think folks hear these stories and shout “Crook” automatically.

She said she disclosed her husband’s relationship to the feds before the bank received funds (stimulus money I think). So it sounds like it could be a lot of nonsense. But even if she is found to have no ethical violations, she’ll be remembered as having them anyway.

The impropriety would have been when she had her meeting in the first place. If she did anything wrong at all, it was in the worst case a minor oversight. If her husband was no longer on the board, then I could see her not thinking about the $250k in stock. $250k in stock—that’s chump change in terms of ownership and not worth any kind of political favor.

89 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:03:03pm

re: #85 WindUpBird

UGGGH MURTHA :(

DoDid not like that guy

He is singing in the Choir Eternal.

90 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:03:22pm

re: #78 WindUpBird

Arizona is soliciting donations for defending that immigration law

DONATIONS! Man the balls on these people

I didn’t like it when people from outside the state poured money into California to pass Prop 8.

I do not send money to interfere with what other states are doing.

Therefore, even if I liked this law of theirs, this would be a no-brainer. They can pay for defending it themselves.

91 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:03:31pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

If someone had put a proposal before Congress to build a machine to destroy the Universe, Byrd would have fought for it, as long as it could be built in West Virginia.

Gotta give the man credit for getting a Coast Guard station in W. Virginia…

92 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:03:45pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

Genius.

93 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:04:37pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

I inherited these fish, and just did what the last teacher who had them had been doing. They weren’t Betas, I don’t know exactly what they were. Small brown freshwater fish, in a self-contained tank. There were some snails who kept it clean.

When I left the school, I gave them to the science teacher next door.

She also had turtles, a salt-water tank, frogs, and for a short time, two baby hedgehogs, so I figured she’d be good to them.

I keep a reef aquarium at my house, with mostly what are called “SPS” corals in it. They are known for being extremely sensitive creatures.

I had, for many years, used RO/DI wtaer (pure water with no minerals) to top off the system for evaporation. One day, my RO/DI filter broke while my car was dead, and the salinity in the tank was rising above safe limits due to evaporation.

So, I broke one of the biggest rules in reefkeeping: I used tapwater to top it off. The corals not only were fine with it, they actually started growing even faster. There’s something in my water they like. I have used well water ever since.

My point is that this kind of thing is as much art as it is science. What has been working will generally continue to work. So stick with your regimen if the critters are healthy, and have been for some time. If they start to slide for whatever reason, check the pH and buffering capacity of the water (carbonate hardness). If the pH is very low, and the carbonate hardness is too, then you know what your problem might be.

Regardless, don’t treat anything as a problem if it is working well.

94 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:05:50pm

re: #83 fat bastard vegetarian

I still maintain that if we found a prison with exactly 535 inmates, we could swap them with Congress and not be that much worse off.

But at least when they looked at us and said, “I am a scorpion, it is my nature” we wouldn’t be so fucking surprised.”

Oh there’s that cynicism again!

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
Bill Nelson
Kendrick Meek
Alex Sink
Ron Klein

All great Dems.

95 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:06:13pm

re: #93 Fozzie Bear

It’s worth noting that in the case of the salt water tank, hardness is taken care of with the salt mix used to make up new water. My advice applies only to fresh water.

96 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:06:27pm

re: #89 fat bastard vegetarian

He is singing in the Choir Eternal Invisible.

Damn

97 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:06:48pm

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

And coal fired.

It was hard not to appreciate his single-minded fixation on getting everything that wasn’t bolted down for West Virginia, although you might not like any given thing he was doing.

98 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:07:26pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

It was hard not to appreciate his single-minded fixation on getting everything that wasn’t bolted down for West Virginia, although you might not like any given thing he was doing.

He certainly did advocate for his state, vigorously.

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:07:52pm

re: #94 marjoriemoon

Oh there’s that cynicism again!

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz
Bill Nelson
Kendrick Meek
Alex Sink
Ron Klein

All great Dems.

Shutlz is a Pelosi lap dog
Sink I might vote for, depending.
Meek has no chance.
Not a big Nelson fan, but he is OK.

100 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:08:16pm

re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist

Mom and Dad live in WV. He was a thief, but he was their thief.

101 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:09:20pm

re: #88 BryanS

The impropriety would have been when she had her meeting in the first place. If she did anything wrong at all, it was in the worst case a minor oversight. If her husband was no longer on the board, then I could see her not thinking about the $250k in stock. $250k in stock—that’s chump change in terms of ownership and not worth any kind of political favor.

But it seems like she was supposed to have disclosed her husband’s relationship with the bank (he sat on the Board) and then the Feds would decide if the bank would get the funding. If the Feds knew of the relationship and gave them money anyway, why is it her problem? If I’m understanding the issue is about money the bank received, supposedly with her influence.

102 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:09:24pm

re: #94 marjoriemoon

I’m including my guys in that too.

103 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:10:02pm

re: #98 Fozzie Bear

He certainly did advocate for his state, vigorously.

I’ve been very big on West Virginia ever since seeing the tape where they ran the Phelpses out of town. That was a good demonstration. I like it when people yell scripture at the Phelpses.

104 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:10:32pm

re: #98 Fozzie Bear

He certainly did advocate for his state, vigorously.

Hellooo, Captain Obvious!

105 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:10:42pm

re: #78 WindUpBird

Arizona is soliciting donations for defending that immigration law

DONATIONS! Man the balls on these people

That’s a lovely photo of Brewer, isn’t it? I think people who ask whether she’s going to run for a higher office have not seen her.

Image: 4c3a3f1c51c24.image.jpg

106 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:11:02pm

re: #83 fat bastard vegetarian

I still maintain that if we found a prison with exactly 535 inmates, we could swap them with Congress and not be that much worse off.

But at least when they looked at us and said, “I am a scorpion, it is my nature” we wouldn’t be so fucking surprised.”

Portland, we has gots one of the coolest cats in the House: [Link: blumenauer.house.gov…]

Sorry that other guys in the House can’t measure up, I like my brainiac bike-riding bow-tie hyperwonk, it’s nice living in a town that doesn’t vote in nasty and stupid people to congress

107 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:11:03pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

That was killer, wasn’t it?

108 Varek Raith  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:11:08pm

re: #103 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ve been very big on West Virginia ever since seeing the tape where they ran the Phelpses out of town. That was a good demonstration. I like it when people yell scripture at the Phelpses.

I’d yell, “MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!11!”
But, that’s just me.
/

109 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:11:39pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

Are you calling “Hag Factor”? Really?

110 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:11:50pm

re: #108 Varek Raith

I’d yell, “MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!11!”
But, that’s just me.
/

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

FOR THE EMPEROR

ZEPPELIN RULES

111 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:12:28pm

re: #108 Varek Raith

I’d yell, “MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!11!”
But, that’s just me.
/

Gay skulls, Varek, gay skulls.
/

112 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:12:34pm

BTW, here is my photobucket, filled mostly with photos of my reef tank. I created it for a reefkeeping forum. And one small pic of me, a WoW screenshot, and a picture of my cat Alfie, lol. You can ignore them.

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:12:52pm

re: #105 wrenchwench

That’s a lovely photo of Brewer, isn’t it? I think people who ask whether she’s going to run for a higher office have not seen her.

Image: 4c3a3f1c51c24.image.jpg

The blondness doesn’t suit her. I think she looked better as a brunette.

114 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:12:56pm

re: #88 BryanS

The impropriety would have been when she had her meeting in the first place. If she did anything wrong at all, it was in the worst case a minor oversight. If her husband was no longer on the board, then I could see her not thinking about the $250k in stock. $250k in stock—that’s chump change in terms of ownership and not worth any kind of political favor.

I agree with you this seems minor.

Also - I know this from having had to sign a “disclosure statement” once a year when I worked in public service - often what is required or allowed (or not) under “ethics” rules are vague, and cover so much territory, it’s unsurprising when someone inadvertently incurs a violation.

I’m no fan of Ms. Waters, not by a long shot.
But unless there’s more to it than what’s been reported, this doesn’t seem to me to amount to a huge hill of beans.

115 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:13:31pm

re: #108 Varek Raith

I’d yell, “MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!11!”
But, that’s just me.
/

Why am I thinking of Thulsa Doom?

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:14:13pm

re: #106 WindUpBird

Portland, we has gots one of the coolest cats in the House: [Link: blumenauer.house.gov…]

Sorry that other guys in the House can’t measure up, I like my brainiac bike-riding bow-tie hyperwonk, it’s nice living in a town that doesn’t vote in nasty and stupid people to congress

As I’ve said, I don’t actually think my Congressman exists, I believe he was created out of phrases that polled well with Contra Costans.

Oh, sure, I’ve seen the pictures. That just means they’ve found some actor who looks right to play John Garamendi, the Proven Democrat.

117 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:14:27pm

re: #109 fat bastard vegetarian

Are you calling “Hag Factor”? Really?

I’m kind of ashamed of myself for doing so, but there’s also reality to deal with.

I’m hoping she doesn’t win her current race. She could lose, despite or because of SB1070.

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:14:54pm

re: #107 fat bastard vegetarian

That was killer, wasn’t it?

I also liked it when, after the Phelpses gave up and slunk away, someone cranked up the ‘Country Roads’ song, and they all danced.

119 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:15:03pm

re: #101 marjoriemoon

But it seems like she was supposed to have disclosed her husband’s relationship with the bank (he sat on the Board) and then the Feds would decide if the bank would get the funding. If the Feds knew of the relationship and gave them money anyway, why is it her problem? If I’m understanding the issue is about money the bank received, supposedly with her influence.

Is sounds like it was a FORMER relationship of being on the board. The disclosure requirements are rather extensive for public figures. This is mostly due to former cases of corruption. It does make it a lot more difficult to influence peddle, but it also makes for a lot of minor oversights being blown out of proportion.

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:16:17pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

I also liked it when, after the Phelpses gave up and slunk away, someone cranked up the ‘Country Roads’ song, and they all danced.

Youtube Video

PARTY!! WOOT!!

121 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:17:24pm

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Video]PARTY!! WOOT!!

WUB. You need to turn this metal!!

122 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:17:25pm

re: #112 Fozzie Bear

BTW, here is my photobucket, filled mostly with photos of my reef tank. I created it for a reefkeeping forum. And one small pic of me, a WoW screenshot, and a picture of my cat Alfie, lol. You can ignore them.

Go past the first page for the best shots. Some of the better ones are on pages 3-5

123 BryanS  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:17:58pm

re: #114 reine.de.tout

I agree with you this seems minor.

Also - I know this from having had to sign a “disclosure statement” once a year when I worked in public service - often what is required or allowed (or not) under “ethics” rules are vague, and cover so much territory, it’s unsurprising when someone inadvertently incurs a violation.

I’m no fan of Ms. Waters, not by a long shot.
But unless there’s more to it than what’s been reported, this doesn’t seem to me to amount to a huge hill of beans.

Agreed. Disclosure requirements alone is enough to keep some people out of public service. Those requirements can be quite onerous.

124 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:19:05pm

It will be a little while before we know how much meat is on the bones of the accusations against Ms. Waters, I think.

Things like this tend not to come out all at once.

125 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:19:24pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

A friend of mine brought up the “HF” once regarding Hillary Clinton… was sufficiently pummeled about the head and shoulders by several women nearby.

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:20:56pm

re: #125 fat bastard vegetarian

A friend of mine brought up the “HF” once regarding Hillary Clinton… was sufficiently pummeled about the head and shoulders by several women nearby.

I think Hillary looks just fine.

I still want an orange pantsuit like that one she had.

127 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:07pm

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fact… Fat City was the back up band for John Denver on the original recording. They went on to become the Starland Vocal Band.

Yep! The “Afternoon Delight” guys.

128 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:09pm

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shutlz is a Pelosi lap dog
Sink I might vote for, depending.
Meek has no chance.
Not a big Nelson fan, but he is OK.

I can see why you might not like W-Schultz but she and Nelson are awesome Democrats and best yet, scandal-free!

Meek may have a chance. I haven’t completely given up on him. He’s doing most of his campaigning in the north where no one knew him previously.

Carrie Meek (his mother) was the first Black woman to be elected to the Florida Senate. A daughter of sharecroppers and granddaughter of slaves, she was a devoted public servant until retiring and her son took her seat (ran unopposed) in 2000 I guess it was.

Anyway, I moved to this neighborhood in 1996. My mail came for 1 month and then stopped. Long story short, I received no mail for 8 months thereafter, no matter what I did which included contacting the Post Master General. I contacted Meek’s office and within 4 days, my mail started again.

Second time I called her because I never received my income tax refund. It was the year Bush was giving out those $300 checks and there was no way to get through to the IRS. When October came and I still hadn’t received any money, I called Meek again and within a week, it was mailed to me.

If you have the right people, they will work for you. Kendrick follows his mother’s principals.

129 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:22pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

I think Hillary looks just fine.

I still want an orange pantsuit like that one she had.

Traffic cone.

130 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:23pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

Uh… no you don’t.

131 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:21:52pm

re: #119 BryanS

Is sounds like it was a FORMER relationship of being on the board. The disclosure requirements are rather extensive for public figures. This is mostly due to former cases of corruption. It does make it a lot more difficult to influence peddle, but it also makes for a lot of minor oversights being blown out of proportion.

Ah ok. Yes, I agree.

132 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:22:12pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

I also liked it when, after the Phelpses gave up and slunk away, someone cranked up the ‘Country Roads’ song, and they all danced.

I remember that:

Youtube Video
133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:22:14pm

re: #127 fat bastard vegetarian

Fact… Fat City was the back up band for John Denver on the original recording. They went on to become the Starland Vocal Band.

Yep! The “Afternoon Delight” guys.

I HATE THEM!!!

134 darthstar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:22:35pm

re: #122 Fozzie Bear

Go past the first page for the best shots. Some of the better ones are on pages 3-5

Alfie looks like a little whore of a kitty (then again, what cat doesn’t?). :) Great pics, by the way.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:22:50pm

re: #130 fat bastard vegetarian

Uh… no you don’t.

ORANGE PANTSUIT! NOW!

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:23:14pm

re: #128 marjoriemoon

I like Meek. He just has no chance.

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:23:39pm

re: #135 SanFranciscoZionist

ORANGE PANTSUIT! NOW!

City jail?
/

138 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:23:53pm

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I HATE THEM!!!

Who?

139 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:24:54pm

re: #134 darthstar

Alfie looks like a little whore of a kitty (then again, what cat doesn’t?). :) Great pics, by the way.

LOL

Alfie is a total slut. He’ll love up on anyone. I raised him from a bottle from before his eyes were open and ears unfolded. His mom was run over by a car. :( I think all the work paid off.

Thanks, btw! I am very proud of my little reef. Most of the corals in there are grown from very small cuttings taken from other tanks. It’s my way of minimizing my impact via wild collection.

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:25:55pm

re: #138 fat bastard vegetarian

Who?

If you EVER do that to me again I will have to give my second downding in 5 years!!
/j/k FBV, I won’t downding ya.

141 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:26:18pm

Today on Fox News: Freedom Watch With Judge Napolitano
A friendly interview with the Wikileaks guys, Justin Raimando (from AntiWar-dot-com) and Racist freak Lew Rockwell. This is what conservatives are watching these days. It still amazes me.

142 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:26:35pm

Oh, look, another perfectly good thread invaded by that douche, Matrix31.

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:27:03pm

re: #142 Cato the Elder

disappeared pretty quick, though!

144 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:29:11pm

re: #139 Fozzie Bear

LOL

Alfie is a total slut. He’ll love up on anyone. I raised him from a bottle from before his eyes were open and ears unfolded. His mom was run over by a car. :( I think all the work paid off.

Thanks, btw! I am very proud of my little reef. Most of the corals in there are grown from very small cuttings taken from other tanks. It’s my way of minimizing my impact via wild collection.

Salt water, I take it? We have 3 fresh water = The Cheap Fish :> But they’re very nice hehe

Nice pics!

145 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:29:30pm

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

As I’ve said, I don’t actually think my Congressman exists, I believe he was created out of phrases that polled well with Contra Costans.

Oh, sure, I’ve seen the pictures. That just means they’ve found some actor who looks right to play John Garamendi, the Proven Democrat.

Somewhere deep underground, in a sub-sub basement of an unmarked state building at the capitol is….THE REANIMATOR

146 wrenchwench  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:29:32pm

re: #137 Cannadian Club Akbar

City jail?
/

Our local jail went back to stripes after some poor Winnebagoing gentleman was arrested on suspicion of escape because he was wearing orange coveralls as he worked on his rig by the side of the road.

147 Charles Johnson  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:29:38pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Today on Fox News: Freedom Watch With Judge Napolitano
A friendly interview with the Wikileaks guys, Justin Raimando (from AntiWar-dot-com) and Racist freak Lew Rockwell. This is what conservatives are watching these days. It still amazes me.

The freaky Raimondo and the throwback Rockwell, together at last. Napolitano’s bringing all the kooks out of the woodwork to be on his show.

148 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:29:49pm

Republicans don’t have ethics investigations into shady dealings by their pols. They just ride it all out and then give the thugs a few seats on some boards of directors.

149 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:30:58pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Today on Fox News: Freedom Watch With Judge Napolitano
A friendly interview with the Wikileaks guys, Justin Raimando (from AntiWar-dot-com) and Racist freak Lew Rockwell. This is what conservatives are watching these days. It still amazes me.

…

wtf is going on over there?

150 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:31:32pm

You wanna know how I know the end is near? The Village People are doing a concert after a Rays game in St. Pete. On FRIDAY THE 13TH!!!

151 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:32:04pm

re: #141 Killgore Trout

Today on Fox News: Freedom Watch With Judge Napolitano
A friendly interview with the Wikileaks guys, Justin Raimando (from AntiWar-dot-com) and Racist freak Lew Rockwell. This is what conservatives are watching these days. It still amazes me.

At the end the judge goes on a whole rant defending Wikileak’s courageous acts exposing our evil government.

152 Four More Tears  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:32:10pm

Also… do they ever talk about business on Fox Business?

153 freetoken  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:32:13pm

re: #149 JasonA

…

wtf is going on over there?

BUY GOLD!!

154 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:34:08pm

re: #126 SanFranciscoZionist

Check out her dress for last night’s party. Not shying away from the bold prints:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

155 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:34:08pm

re: #151 Killgore Trout

At the end the judge goes on a whole rant defending Wikileak’s courageous acts exposing our evil government.

But weren’t most of those documents from the previous administration or administrationS?

156 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:34:51pm

re: #147 Charles

The freaky Raimondo and the throwback Rockwell, together at last. Napolitano’s bringing all the kooks out of the woodwork to be on his show.

At about 40:00 there’s a whole 5 minute rant about how wonderful the Wikileaks guy is. The times have changed.

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:35:18pm

re: #154 prairiefire

Check out her dress for last night’s party. Not shying away from the bold prints:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

WTF is that a moo moo? Not that I care.

158 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:35:31pm

re: #154 prairiefire

Check out her dress for last night’s party. Not shying away from the bold prints:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

They look good. Fabulous bling, nice color but a little frumpy.

159 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:35:31pm

re: #155 marjoriemoon

But weren’t most of those documents from the previous administration or administrationS?

I think they cover up to about 9 months ago.

160 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:35:34pm

re: #148 Cato the Elder

Ensign aides to testify:[Link: www.lvrj.com…]

161 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:38:27pm

HI Lizards! I had lunch with John Snow today..An American hero..Bronze star winner and ex-dean of OU’s climatology dept..I’m walking on clouds…
You know..I kindof thought about asking him about climategate…But you don’t interrupt a war hero and his stories at the table…Damn I had lunch with a hero! How often does that happen?

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:40:25pm

re: #161 HoosierHoops

No, you don’t. Because if you sit and listen, there will be more chancs. Good on you Hoops.

163 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:40:38pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

I think they cover up to about 9 months ago.

Ah ok. I can’t stand to watch pundits who scream at me. And the “chaotic” production value of the film, image after image, scrolling banners, LIBERTY, FREEDOM, JUSTICE, bam bam bam. ick

164 freetoken  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:41:43pm

re: #154 prairiefire

The colors work for her, I think. OTOH, Bill should have coordinated his outfit with hers a bit better. Say, a dark purple-blue blazer, black pants, and a pale amethyst shirt.

165 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:41:46pm

re: #154 prairiefire

Check out her dress for last night’s party. Not shying away from the bold prints:[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

Is it just me or is there something not quite right-looking about Bill’s throat? Like, his Adam’s apple has been shifted to the right about two inches…

166 freetoken  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:42:14pm

re: #165 Cato the Elder

He supposedly lost 20 lbs for the wedding. Is that just sagging skin you’re seeing?

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:42:48pm

re: #165 Cato the Elder

Is it just me or is there something not quite right-looking about Bill’s throat? Like, his Adam’s apple has been shifted to the right about two inches…

In the second pic, he has 2.

168 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:43:02pm

re: #166 freetoken

He supposedly lost 20 lbs for the wedding. Is that just sagging skin you’re seeing?

Why the hell would someone else getting married make me want to lose weight?

169 freetoken  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:45:12pm

re: #168 Cato the Elder

To look better in the pictures? To feel better in a tux?

This is after all a big news story that will get lots of coverage.

170 wee fury  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:45:31pm

With his health issues — former President Clinton is doing a good job losing weight.

171 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:46:30pm

My pathetic garden is getting comical. Tomatillos are usually easy to grow and very prolific. The weather this year has stunted everything. My Tomatillos have been in the ground for months but are only about 3 inches tall and have 3-4 leaves each. One started flowing. If it actually sets fruit the tomatillo is going to be bigger than the plant itself. Ridiculous.

172 wee fury  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:46:54pm

Off to walk.

173 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:48:38pm

re: #166 freetoken

He supposedly lost 20 lbs for the wedding. Is that just sagging skin you’re seeing?

Or are you not happy to see me.

174 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:48:58pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Tomatillos are great when grilled and a part of guacamole.

175 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:49:56pm

It’s blazing hot in Oklahoma..Feels like a blast furnace when you walk outside.
It’s pretty bad when it’s too hot to go swimming in the pool at the hotel..

176 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:50:25pm

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tomatillos are great when grilled and a part of guacamole.

I use them in curries too. They are a great all purpose veg.

177 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:51:27pm

re: #154 prairiefire

Uh… I’m not sure… did I just catch my self staring at Hillary’s boobs?

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:51:38pm

re: #175 HoosierHoops

It’s blazing hot in Oklahoma..Feels like a blast furnace when you walk outside.
It’s pretty bad when it’s too hot to go swimming in the pool at the hotel..

You will get no compassion from me.:)

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:53:10pm

re: #175 HoosierHoops

It’s blazing hot in Oklahoma..Feels like a blast furnace when you walk outside.
It’s pretty bad when it’s too hot to go swimming in the pool at the hotel..


The hottest weather I’ve ever experienced was Vegas, it was totally like that, just vicious

180 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:53:15pm

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

You will get no compassion from me.:)

I couldn’t live in this weather…Oh Wait..Oh NO!

181 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:54:26pm

re: #180 HoosierHoops

I couldn’t live in this weather…Oh Wait..Oh NO!

Welcome to my world!!!

182 freetoken  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:55:20pm

re: #177 fat bastard vegetarian

heh, she’s showing some cleavage.

183 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:55:23pm

re: #181 Cannadian Club Akbar

He gets tornadoes, you big wuss.

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:56:25pm

re: #183 fat bastard vegetarian

He gets tornadoes, you big wuss.

I get hurricanes. Trump card.

185 Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:56:30pm

re: #122 Fozzie Bear

If your tanks are salt water, I wonder how you keep the correct concentration as the water evaporates?

186 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:57:52pm

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

I get hurricanes. Trump card.

You see hurricanes coming for days in advance. A tornado’ll sneak up on your ass. BAM!

187 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:58:52pm

re: #179 WindUpBird

Death Valley was amazing. So hot.

188 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 5:59:14pm

re: #187 fat bastard vegetarian

Day I went, it was 121.

189 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:00:01pm

re: #186 fat bastard vegetarian

You see hurricanes coming for days in advance. A tornado’ll sneak up on your ass. BAM!

Yea, but it doesn’t hover over you for 5 hours.

190 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:00:17pm

re: #175 HoosierHoops

It’s blazing hot in Oklahoma..Feels like a blast furnace when you walk outside.
It’s pretty bad when it’s too hot to go swimming in the pool at the hotel..

hehehe.
A few weeks ago we went out to my brother’s house to paddle around in his pool.
It was too hot to stay out there very long. As you say, when it’s too hot to be in a swimming pool…

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:00:39pm

re: #186 fat bastard vegetarian

You see hurricanes coming for days in advance. A tornado’ll sneak up on your ass. BAM!

This is why I don’t hand out with Hoops. If it ain’t snow it’s tornadoes.
///

192 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:00:41pm

re: #186 fat bastard vegetarian

You see hurricanes coming for days in advance. A tornado’ll sneak up on your ass. BAM!

We get ‘em both.
TRUMP YOU ALL.

193 Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:01:03pm

re: #188 fat bastard vegetarian

Wrong time of year. Try December or Jan.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:01:06pm

re: #189 marjoriemoon

Yea, but it doesn’t hover over you for 5 hours.

Word sister!!

195 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:01:20pm

re: #192 reine.de.tout

We get ‘em both.
TRUMP YOU ALL.

DON’T FORGET THE OIL!

196 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:02:29pm

re: #186 fat bastard vegetarian

You see hurricanes coming for days in advance. A tornado’ll sneak up on your ass. BAM!

Being a California boy..Earthquakes never bothered me much ( except Oct 1989 ) But Tornadoes terrify me..You haven’t lived till you have laid in a tub with the bed Mattress over you…:)

197 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:03:47pm

re: #196 HoosierHoops

What other kind of mattress is there?

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:04:21pm

re: #196 HoosierHoops

Being a California boy..Earthquakes never bothered me much ( except Oct 1989 ) But Tornadoes terrify me..You haven’t lived till you have laid in a tub with the bed Mattress over you…:)

A hot chick women mattress!!!
/heh

199 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:06:13pm

re: #154 prairiefire

By the way, I think President Clinton looks great.

Not a fan, but he looks better than he’s looked in years.

200 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:06:24pm

re: #185 Bear

If your tanks are salt water, I wonder how you keep the correct concentration as the water evaporates?

Salt doesn’t evaporate, so all you have to do is keep the volume of water stable. I use float switches in the sump attached to pumps in reservoirs of fresh water. If the sump’s water level remains stable, so does the salinity. I maintain my systems at 35ppm salt, or 1.026 specific gravity, measured with a refractometer.

201 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:06:58pm

re: #200 Fozzie Bear

I was told there would be no math.

202 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:07:00pm

re: #195 fat bastard vegetarian

DON’T FORGET THE OIL!

Did you hear? They can’t find any oil in the gulf…Those damn Chinese stole it!
/Again

203 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:08:50pm

re: #202 HoosierHoops

They are welcome to it.

Kind of like gift wrapping your garbage and leaving it on the curb during a Sanitation Worker strike.

204 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:09:04pm

re: #195 fat bastard vegetarian

DON’T FORGET THE OIL!

The oil has pretty much disappeared.
That type of oil, in the very hot conditions that exist in the Gulf, evaporates quickly.

What’s left in the water is handled fairly efficiently by oil-eating bacteria, in plentiful supply in the Gulf again due to the hot conditions.

It is fortunate that the currents participated and the oil didn’t get into the loop current like they thought it might, and it all stayed in the Gulf.

205 What, me worry?  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:09:13pm

re: #199 fat bastard vegetarian

By the way, I think President Clinton looks great.

Not a fan, but he looks better than he’s looked in years.

He’s looking a little old, but he’s had a couple heart surgeries. It’s good that he’s thin. I’m really happy for Chelsea. She deserves happiness. It can’t be easy for presidential kids.

206 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:10:17pm

BTW, go back to prariefire’s 154 and look at the expression on that Secret Serviceman’s face.

That is one SAFE motherfuckin’ former President and Secretary of State.

207 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:10:40pm

re: #165 Cato the Elder

I see what you mean. Maybe his neck is thinner.

208 Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:10:43pm

re: #200 Fozzie Bear

That is what I thought you probably did. There was a salt water tank at one of the local eateries. A mark was made at the water level when filled and as the water level fell they just added fresh water. Do you use distilled rather than tap?

209 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:12:43pm

re: #204 reine.de.tout

Amen.

210 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:13:05pm

re: #177 fat bastard vegetarian

Uh… I’m not sure… did I just catch my self staring at Hillary’s boobs?

Bra/ side boob flash. On the Secretary Of State, no less.

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:14:00pm

re: #206 fat bastard vegetarian

BTW, go back to prariefire’s 154 and look at the expression on that Secret Serviceman’s face.

That is one SAFE motherfuckin’ former President and Secretary of State.

IIRC, they only get 10 years of Secret Service gard out of office. But Hillary being SoS makes that change.

212 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:14:28pm

re: #182 freetoken

heh, she’s showing some cleavage.

S’what I mean!

213 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:15:14pm

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think it’s for life unless they ask for it to be removed.

214 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:15:32pm

re: #213 fat bastard vegetarian

I think it’s for life unless they ask for it to be removed.

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar

IIRC, they only get 10 years of Secret Service gard out of office. But Hillary being SoS makes that change.

LET’S GOOGLE!

215 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:16:36pm

re: #214 fat bastard vegetarian

LET’S GOOGLE!

Former presidents and their spouses for their lifetimes, except when the spouse remarries. In 1997, Congressional legislation became effective limiting Secret Service protection to former presidents for a period of not more than 10 years from the date the former president leaves office

THANK YOU GOOGLER!

216 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:17:34pm

re: #211 Cannadian Club Akbar

You were right.

It pain’s me so to type those words.

217 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:17:40pm

re: #214 fat bastard vegetarian

LET’S GOOGLE!

Speaking of google.. This is who I had lunch with today
[Link: www.weathersphere.org…]

218 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:19:09pm

re: #216 fat bastard vegetarian

You were right.

It pain’s me so to type those words.

WOOT!! ouch..

219 fat bastard vegetarian  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:20:04pm

re: #217 HoosierHoops

Oh. When I saw the URL I thought you’d had lunch with Jim Cantore.

But that’s cool too.

220 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:22:00pm

re: #201 fat bastard vegetarian

I was told there would be no math.

Xactly what I was thinking.

221 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:28:38pm

re: #219 fat bastard vegetarian

Oh. When I saw the URL I thought you’d had lunch with Jim Cantore.

But that’s cool too.

He is also a Bronze star recipient…I was so proud to pay for lunch for everybody.. I have met only a few American Heroes in my life and John Snow is awesome…A friend from my company introduced us today.. Dude has a bad ass car…Silver 370Z convertible…I’m still walking on air..I am so impressed with him….Even though he is a world class climatologist he confided in me he still misses being in the Army every day

222 Fozzie Bear  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:41:19pm

re: #208 Bear

That is what I thought you probably did. There was a salt water tank at one of the local eateries. A mark was made at the water level when filled and as the water level fell they just added fresh water. Do you use distilled rather than tap?

For years I used a reverse-osmosis/mixed-resin deionizer in two stages, but when it died one day, I used well water in an emergency. As it turns out, the tanks seemed to respond well, so I still use well water. It saves me a little money, and I know the water table here is clean.

The reason one generally uses highly purified water for reef tanks is because they are extremely sensitive to certain metals, such as copper. (Even in trace amounts) This house is plumbed in pvc, so that hasn’t been an issue. I got lucky. :)

223 prairiefire  Sat, Jul 31, 2010 6:58:00pm

re: #222 Fozzie Bear

I think there is too much chlorine in our tap water. We take water from the MO river and have to strain out NE’s crap.


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