Friday Night Jam: Bob Schneider, “The Effect” (Live on Bing)

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Here’s a great live performance of one of the songs on Austin madman Bob Schneider’s aura-melting new album Burden Of Proof.

April 30, 2013 - Bob Schneider with “The Effect” in the Bing Lounge at 101.9 KINK.FM. Presented by Intel.

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And a bonus — Bob explains what the hell this crazy song is about:

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294 comments
1 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:09:54pm

i’ll just wait till someone else posts something

oh ,,,, wait ,,, damn !!!

2 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:16:39pm

Be careful what you wish for because sometimes when you get it, it’s horrifying.

And there you have it.

3 darthstar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:20:57pm

Watching the Katami-Zarrillo wedding on Rachel’s show.

I know, I’m straight and already married, but I’m with Mayor Villaraigosa…I’m getting goose-bumps. Happy, happy day to everyone.

4 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:24:36pm

Do any lizards out there know how to read Chinese? I came across this old record earlier. It’s apparently pre-war, which makes it kind of interesting:

Image: Chinese_1.jpeg

Image: Chinese.gif

5 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:24:54pm
6 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:26:52pm

re: #4 dragonath

I got another history question.

I found a last name in the information my grandfather gave me. From my mom’s mom’s side.

Kozar, does that mean anything?

7 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:28:34pm

re: #4 dragonath

Do any lizards out there know how to read Chinese

Only on restaurant menus, and even at that, only with subtitles!!!

srsly though, too bad one of my sons best friends isn’t here tonight. He’s fluent in a couple opf dialects, verbally and written

8 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:33:32pm

re: #6 ProTARDISLiberal

I don’t know if you’re interested but there’s a big gun event in Glendale, CO tomorrow. Article here.

9 engineer cat  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:37:44pm

re: #6 ProTARDISLiberal

I got another history question.

I found a last name in the information my grandfather gave me. From my mom’s mom’s side.

Kozar, does that mean anything?

ancestry.com

Kozar Name Meaning
Czech (Kozar), Slovak (Koziar), Slovenian, Serbian, and Croatian: from an agent noun from Slavic koza ‘nanny goat’, either an occupational name for a goatherd or a nickname for an impoverished farmer who had only goats, because he could not afford cows.Slovenian and Croatian (Kožar): from kožar, an occupational name for a skinner or a dealer in skins, from koža ‘skin’, ‘hide’ + the agent noun suffix -ar.

just used mah google foo finger

10 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:47:39pm

re: #9 engineer cat

ancestry.com

Kozar Name Meaning
Czech (Kozar), Slovak (Koziar), Slovenian, Serbian, and Croatian: from an agent noun from Slavic koza ‘nanny goat’, either an occupational name for a goatherd or a nickname for an impoverished farmer who had only goats, because he could not afford cows.Slovenian and Croatian (Kožar): from kožar, an occupational name for a skinner or a dealer in skins, from koža ‘skin’, ‘hide’ + the agent noun suffix -ar.

just used mah google foo finger

I thought of Bernie when I saw PTL’s post. My great grandmother’s maiden name was apparently Zima. I guess fitting given my grandmother’s aversion to any alcohol.

11 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:48:55pm

re: #6 ProTARDISLiberal

I got another history question.

I found a last name in the information my grandfather gave me. From my mom’s mom’s side.

Kozar, does that mean anything?

He played football for the Miami Hurricanes & the Cleveland Browns.

12 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:49:17pm

re: #11 Stanghazi

He played football for the Miami Hurricanes & the Cleveland Browns.

Ha! great minds, great minds.

13 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:50:23pm

re: #12 HappyWarrior

Ha! great minds, great minds.

My Step Dad was a Hurricane, it was required to know.

14 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:51:15pm

I’m waiting for the sun to set in order to bbq. Damn.

15 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:53:38pm

re: #9 engineer cat

ancestry.com

Kozar Name Meaning
Czech (Kozar), Slovak (Koziar), Slovenian, Serbian, and Croatian: from an agent noun from Slavic koza ‘nanny goat’, either an occupational name for a goatherd or a nickname for an impoverished farmer who had only goats, because he could not afford cows.Slovenian and Croatian (Kožar): from kožar, an occupational name for a skinner or a dealer in skins, from koža ‘skin’, ‘hide’ + the agent noun suffix -ar.

just used mah google foo finger

Ancestry is such an evil site. After my last grandparent passed away this spring, I was determined to finish researching my father’s side of the family, about which we knew nothing. I signed on to a 2-week free trial and was immediately lost to my family for the remainder of the first weekend.

16 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:55:47pm

re: #14 Stanghazi

Chronic Tacos here! WOOT!

17 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:57:46pm

re: #16 Dancing along the light of day

Chronic Tacos here! WOOT!

What’s the chronic? Is that a place?

18 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:58:12pm

re: #9 engineer cat

Thanks!

19 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:58:26pm

I’ve got Chinese and a fucking crappy 4G connection. What the fuck ever.

20 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:00:05pm

re: #19 Gus

I’ve got Chinese and a fucking crappy 4G connection. What the fuck ever.

I downed 5/8 of a Papa John’s pizza. Having a man’s night with the senior fishspawn while the junior fishspawn and the Mrs. Fish are out taking care of errands for a bridal shower this weekend.

21 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:00:17pm

re: #16 Dancing along the light of day

Chronic Tacos here! WOOT!

I was going to order in, but I decided to save money and microwave something from the freezer instead.

22 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:01:32pm

I got fancy Havarti for burgers.

mmmmmmm

23 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:02:30pm

Great article:

24 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:07:00pm

re: #19 Gus

I’ve got Chinese and a fucking crappy 4G connection. What the fuck ever.

What is, “A sentence never spoken by Charles Bukowski”?

25 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:08:49pm

God I despise plumbing work…

So my upstairs neighbor who is legally blind and has end stage Parkinson’s had big wrinkles in his carpet where a “carpet cleaning” company had soaked his carpet and left it soaking wet while they moved his furniture around. Hospice complained that the big wrinkles were a trip hazard to him and to their personnel.

“No problem” I said “I’ll just rent a knee kicker and stretch and recut the carpet along the edges.”

5 hours of back breaking furniture dragging (and a $15.00 tool rental) later there were no wrinkles.

Next complaint, the refrigerator doors swung the wrong way and could not be fully opened because of the pantry closet.

“No problem” I said “These door handles and hinges are reversible and can be mounted to swing either direction.”

1/2 an hour of fairly easy work solved the refrigerator door problem as both the fridge and freezer doors swing the opposite way now.

Next complaint, the sink faucet is loose and it has almost no water pressure.

“No problem” I said “It is probably just the filter trap at the aerator and I can tighten up the faucet stem in just a few minutes.”

WRONG!

I am now $122.31 into fixing this and unless things go better tomorrow than they did today it may cost even more. Neither of the wall valves under the sink shut off completely and both need to be replaced. The Faucet “stem” base is an integral part that is not accessible at the bottom to tighten.

I got two new valves, two new supply hoses, and a new fancy pull-out sprayer faucet almost identical (but better than) to the old one at the price listed above with a bit of whining and pleading at my usual sources.

The problem is that I cannot budge the compression nuts on the old valves, not even after heating them to red hot with my MAPP gas torch. There is some kind of tan sealant coming out of the nuts and I suspect it might just be “liquid nails.”

There isn’t enough pipe outside of the walls to just cut the old valves off and then reconnect, so I’ll try burning them some more tomorrow. If that doesn’t work I’m going to have to cut out the cabinet back and the wallboard behind it just to add new 1/2 stubs long enough to connect to (and of course repair it afterwards).

Did I mention how much I hate plumbing…?

26 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:09:34pm

re: #17 Stanghazi

What’s the chronic? Is that a place?

Youtube Video

27 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:10:38pm

re: #25 Tiny alien kittens are watching you

I get to pull out and replace a dishwasher. I’m not sure which of us has it worse yet; I suspect it’s probably you, but I won’t know until I’m elbow-deep in stanky dish water.

28 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:15:14pm

re: #19 Gus

Verizon?

29 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:15:33pm

re: #28 Amory Blaine

Verizon?

ATT

30 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:16:43pm

Glenn Greenwald’s communist encounter is beginning…

new.livestream.com

31 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:18:34pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Glenn Greenwald’s communist encounter is beginning…

new.livestream.com

It’s going to be all “New Atheist” bashing. Whatever the fuck that is. He’ll probably go after Sam Harris again. Who’s kind of douchey sometimes but this is Greenwankers side show.

32 Amory Blaine  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:18:53pm

Will some one please sell him the rope.

33 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:21:43pm

re: #17 Stanghazi

Chain of cheap but good Mexican. Think feed a teenager for $5!

34 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:22:26pm

re: #33 Dancing along the light of day

Chain of cheap but good Mexican. Think feed a teenager for $5!

Taco Bell without the suck?

35 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:23:55pm

OK, I can’t watch this. My bullshit quotient is already over the limit. Somebody let me know if anything important happens.

36 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:25:37pm

re: #32 Amory Blaine

Will some one please sell him the rope.

No, even though he’s not far from my home right now. I’m all for letting him speak in front of openly Socialist and Communist people, since that can be used to tar his other supporters later on.

37 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:27:13pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

OK, I can’t watch this. My bullshit quotient is already over the limit. Somebody let me know if anything important happens.

Neither can I. If I did, I’d probably end up leaving a flaming bag of dog crap in front of his hotel room.

/I’m kidding, but Glenn Greenwald really does piss me off badly.

38 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:27:42pm

re: #33 Dancing along the light of day

Chain of cheap but good Mexican. Think feed a teenager for $5!

Don’t have them down here. Wish!

39 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:28:58pm

re: #4 dragonath

Looks like traditional Chinese characters, and I have trouble with the simplified characters used here on the mainland. If you can send me higher res images, I can ask someone here to translate for you. I checked the “show email” box here, so hopefully it will work this time.

40 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:32:15pm

You just can’t make this stuff up. After all of this stuff about the NSA which came along with prima facie anti-Americanism, China, and Moscow (Kremlin), Greenwald hops off to make a speech at a communist gathering.

41 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:33:25pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

Glenn Greenwald’s communist encounter is beginning…

new.livestream.com

Image: Bm2nzwf.png

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:36:21pm

re: #40 Gus

You just can’t make this stuff up. After all of this stuff about the NSA which came along with prima facie anti-Americanism, China, and Moscow (Kremlin), Greenwald hops off to make a speech at a communist gathering.

He doesn’t care who the audience is as long as he can appear ‘pure’ and feed his ego.

Reminds me of Rush Limbaugh. I’d expect including the misogyny, since Greenwald’s too egotistical to take rejection well.

43 Mattand  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:38:01pm

re: #31 Gus

It’s going to be all “New Atheist” bashing. Whatever the fuck that is. He’ll probably go after Sam Harris again. Who’s kind of douchey sometimes but this is Greenwankers side show.

I’m confused. I thought communism eschewed religion. What’s the point of bashing atheists?

44 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:38:34pm

Oh fuck, we are under some sort of weather warning.

45 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:40:21pm

re: #25 Tiny alien kittens are watching you

God I despise plumbing work…

So my upstairs neighb…snip

There isn’t enough pipe outside of the walls to just cut the old valves off and then reconnect, so I’ll try burning them some more tomorrow. If that doesn’t work I’m going to have to cut out the cabinet back and the wallboard behind it just to add new 1/2 stubs long enough to connect to (and of course repair it afterwards).

Did I mention how much I hate plumbing…?

Sharkbite?

Youtube Video

46 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:40:43pm

re: #43 Mattand

I’m confused. I thought communism eschewed religion. What’s the point of bashing atheists?

Oh, he’s going after Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Condell (why he adds them to that last is beyond me). It’s kind of a trend with the Salon crowd.

47 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:42:58pm

re: #39 wheat-dogghazi

I’ll try that, although I don’t see the “show email” link. What do you have to click?

48 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:44:52pm

About Islam derangement. I probably agree with Greenwad on principle.

49 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:45:31pm

Top Texas Republican: Perry Crossed The Line With Remarks On Wendy Davis

Perry subsequently claimed that he was actually offering praise of the Democrat, but Republican state House Speaker Joe Straus evidently doesn’t have the governor’s back on the matter. Straus said Friday that Perry’s remarks undermine the GOP’s effort to pass what would be one of the most restrictive abortion measures in the country.

“Disagreements over policy are important and they’re healthy, but when he crosses the line into the personal, then he damages himself and he damages the Republican Party,” Straus told The Texas Tribune.

50 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:46:31pm

re: #49 Kragar

Top Texas Republican: Perry Crossed The Line With Remarks On Wendy Davis

In other words…

Stop saying things that make it obvious to others how batshit crazy we are!!1!!ty

51 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:47:07pm
52 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:48:35pm

Perry talks about sex.

Comedy ensues.

53 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:49:55pm

re: #47 dragonath

I’ll try that, although I don’t see the “show email” link. What do you have to click?

click wheat’s blue nic, that will get you to email.

I’m curious too.

54 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:49:59pm

We got 1 in hail in this beastie.

My car be fucked.

2001 Honda Accord Ex that survived Hurricane Katrina.

55 Stanghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:50:35pm

or maybe not….

56 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:50:45pm

I see The Atlantic is pushing their new poll on how “united” Americans feel.

In reading through the presentation and survey it just rubs me all the wrong ways. I probably sound like a broken record (- “what’s that?” the mp3 generation ask) but this pervasive post-modern attraction of stripping words of meaning is manifesting itself. Surveys are done asking questions with loaded words, and then the survey interpreters can take the results and by changing the meaning of those words come to conclusions that are more imagination than representations of an external reality.

57 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:51:11pm

So far on the Greenwald livestream, the amazing reporting of the amazing story is the story.

58 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:52:07pm

re: #57 jaunte

Amazing.

59 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:52:43pm

re: #58 freetoken

Woody Allen fantasy vindication story going on now.

60 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:56:30pm

re: #59 jaunte

Woody Allen fantasy vindication story going on now.

Bananas. Complete with Ecuador who apparently woke up and smelled the coffee.

61 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:58:48pm

“…shake up the foundations of the corrupted roots of America’s political and media culture…”

62 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:00:41pm

Here’s what the company behind that survey writes about itself:

About Penn Schoen Berland

Penn Schoen Berland, a unit of WPP, is a global research-based consultancy that specializes in messaging and communications strategy for blue-chip political, corporate, and entertainment clients. PSB has over 30 years of experience in leveraging unique insights about consumer opinion to provide clients with a competitive advantage – what it calls Winning Knowledge. PSB executes polling and message testing services for Fortune 100 companies and has helped elect more than 30 presidents and prime ministers around the world. For more information, please visit psbresearch.com.

That “survey” is just another “messaging” technique, and is used by The Atlantic to try and package stories. Over on the comments to the main story there are only a few commenters who are taking to task the survey itself - most seem to be willing to play along and make ideological food fights out of it.

63 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:00:53pm

re: #60 Gus

Bananas. Complete with Ecuador who apparently woke up and smelled the coffee.

Ecuadorian Pres. Currera likely realized giving Snowden asylum meant he’d likely have to actually shake Snowden’s hand, and he decided he didn’t want the stench of Emo-loser on his skin.

64 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:01:41pm

re: #54 ProTARDISLiberal

We got 1 in hail in this beastie.

My car be fucked.

2001 Honda Accord Ex that survived Hurricane Katrina.

Boo, hiss. Sucks to lose a dependable ride that’s been around for years.

65 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:01:44pm

re: #61 jaunte

“…shake up the foundations of the corrupted roots of America’s political and media culture…”

“… and I, Glenn Greenwald, Defender of Freedom, Liberty and Supreme Potentate of National Security, have brought the story to you!”

66 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:02:44pm

re: #63 Dark_Falcon

Ecuadorian Pres. Currera likely realized giving Snowden asylum meant he’d likely have to actually shake Snowden’s hand, and he decided he didn’t want the stench of Emo-loser on his skin.

Correa. I don’t know the reasoning here. But I would rather see Snowden end up in Iceland than Ecuador. Maybe it’s my Latin American roots.

67 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:02:59pm

re: #61 jaunte

“…shake up the foundations of the corrupted roots of America’s political and media culture…”

Weak sauce.

68 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:06:42pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

I was going off the warning. The storm is worst in Black Forest, and Downtown to Stetson Hills area. Initial worry subsided.

However, the areas to our south are under a nice purple. They’re boned.

But then again, for the moment, that falls under “not my problem.”

69 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:08:31pm

re: #66 Gus

Correa. I don’t know the reasoning here. But I would rather see Snowden end up in Iceland than Ecuador. Maybe it’s my Latin American roots.

I’d rather see him doing hard time in a federal prison in the US.

70 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:08:49pm

“Be not afraid!”

71 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:10:54pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

I’d rather see him doing hard time in a federal prison in the US.

10 years minimum.

72 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:11:47pm

Well, that was essentially an infomercial for more revelations to come.

73 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:12:23pm

re: #72 jaunte

Well, that was essentially an infomercial for more revelations to come.

Tweet that but reference Greenwad.

74 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:12:59pm

re: #70 jaunte

“Be not afraid!”

I liked that line much better when Pope john Paul II used it. He was a doer who faced real danger, Glenn Greenwald is just a poser.

75 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:14:29pm

So now everyone is going to be encouraged to leak, and we can all decide democratically which secrets we want to keep after we get them out and talk about them.
I think that’s the theory.

76 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:15:13pm

We need the Burn Ward, stat!

77 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:17:36pm

re: #75 jaunte

So now everyone is going to be encouraged to leak, and we can all decide democratically which secrets we want to keep after we get them out and talk about them.
I think that’s the theory.

Yes. Let’s build giant puppets while we’re at it.

78 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:19:15pm
79 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:22:58pm

Seriously. I think if we listened to these guys Ecuador would be able to invade the USA.

80 thedopefishlives  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:23:59pm

re: #78 Gus

Somehow, I get the impression that people who are anti-government-secrecy are the same type that are anti-nukes.

81 engineer cat  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:35:11pm

re: #61 jaunte

“…shake up the foundations of the corrupted roots of America’s political and media culture…”

snarl snarl snarl

82 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:36:03pm

Interesting new Article on Wikipedia:

Tropical cyclone effects in Europe

Somehow though, they miss the very real phenomenon of Mediterranean Tropical Cyclones.

83 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:40:13pm

Pew pew!

84 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:48:36pm

Exploding heads

85 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:48:56pm
86 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:53:46pm

re: #85 Joanne

“The problem was not in her speaking, but in their hearing.”

87 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 8:59:39pm

re: #66 Gus

Correa. I don’t know the reasoning here. But I would rather see Snowden end up in Iceland than Ecuador. Maybe it’s my Latin American roots.

I’d rather see him in prison.

88 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:01:55pm
89 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:02:11pm

Hot Air. Allah Pundit.

90 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:04:01pm

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

Christie, a critic of Obamacare, said in February he would accept federal money to expand Medicaid in New Jersey, and the state budget he signed on Friday included $227 million in such funds.

Democrats in the state Senate and Assembly had passed a bill seeking to make that Medicaid expansion permanent, but Christie vetoed it, a spokesman for the governor said.

91 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:05:44pm

re: #88 Gus

That was before she cost the GOP an election.

92 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:06:29pm

re: #86 jaunte

I seriously cry when I think of that poor girl.

I just read somewhere that Trayvon Martin had a GPA of 3.7 and a scholarship to college. I didn’t google, but my heart weeps for this whole rotten thing.

And crazy atty Don West’s daughter decided to Instagram a pic of Dad, and her and her sister celebrating daddy’s victory over Rachel, hash tagging #DadKilledIt and something like #BeatTheStupid. I hope that privileged bitch roasts in hell.

93 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:07:15pm

re: #90 dragonath

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

Did Chris Christie just make Jan Brewer look more reasonable on an issue or am I still a little dazed from working out?

94 Joanne  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:08:09pm

re: #90 dragonath

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

Yeah, someone remind me of the awesome moderate Christie is. He may not be a bagger, but he’s a heartless GOP asshole nonetheless.

95 dragonath  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:08:53pm

re: #39 wheat-dogghazi

Can’t find your email, but you can get the full size images by clicking “New Image in Tab” when you right click the images I posted in #4.

96 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:09:58pm

re: #90 dragonath

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

He’s starting his run…

97 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:10:38pm

re: #92 Joanne

I seriously cry when I think of that poor girl.

I just read somewhere that Trayvon Martin had a GPA of 3.7 and a scholarship to college. I didn’t google, but my heart weeps for this whole rotten thing.

And crazy atty Don West’s daughter decided to Instagram a pic of Dad, and her and her sister celebrating daddy’s victory over Rachel, hash tagging #DadKilledIt and something like #BeatTheStupid. I hope that privileged bitch roasts in hell.

I know. Man I feel so bad for Treyvon’s family and friends. I know Zimmerman is entitled to a defense but my heart breaks seeing this kid made out to be some kind of thug since he got in a fight at school and he had used marijuana before. I actually thought of my own brother a little who had some problems but like Treyvon was a good kid.

98 Gus  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:13:29pm

Rain! OK, a shower.

99 jaunte  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:24:26pm
100 Tigger2  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:26:38pm

re: #90 dragonath

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

I hate hearing people calling Christie a centrist he is just a wingnut that is better at hiding it.

101 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:41:00pm

re: #47 dragonath

Well, when I click “Show email” in the comment-writing box, my email is supposed to appear in the box. But it doesn’t. Charles, this has happened before. I’m using Chrome on Vista Home, FWIW.

If you go to my blog, and follow the “Contact Me” link on the left, you can retrieve my email.

102 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:49:26pm

re: #101 wheat-dogghazi

Your nic is blue, which should mean you’re contactable…

103 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 9:52:22pm

re: #95 dragonath

Got it. Thx

104 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:22:40pm

Time to steal the chairs, and that piece of toast.

105 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:26:48pm

MP3 Audio

106 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:35:51pm

Where bees every 1?

107 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 10:51:37pm

I bees here, but my connection is as slow as honey on a cold day. Must be all that NSA hacking …

108 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:00:45pm

This got a little bit of play on Friday:

Dominican groups reject gay US ambassador nominee

Religious groups in the Dominican Republic said Friday they are outraged by the nomination of a gay U.S. ambassador to the conservative Caribbean country.

James “Wally” Brewster would be the seventh U.S. ambassador in history to be openly gay, but opponents are asking the administration of Dominican President Danilo Medina to reject his nomination.

Rev. Cristobal Cardozo, leader of the Dominican Evangelical Fraternity, said he worried about the message that Brewster’s presence might send.

“It’s an insult to good Dominican customs,” he said.

[…]

The Dominican Republic, besides having a remnant Catholic population, has over the past few decades been heavily target by American fundamentalists of different sects.

Oh look, they are even offering up threats:

Meanwhile, Vicar Pablo Cedano criticized the nomination as “a lack of respect, of consideration, that they send us that kind of person as ambassador.”

“If he arrives, he’ll suffer and will be forced to leave,” Cedano warned, without elaborating.

109 freetoken  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:10:38pm

Jessye Norman sings Gounod:

MP3 Audio

110 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:20:29pm

I got bit by a llama once.

111 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:31:36pm

I bit him back.

112 Kragar  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 11:40:35pm

re: #111 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

I bit him back.

You wanna touch the llama?

Youtube Video

113 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 12:10:10am

re: #99 jaunte

re: #99 jaunte

Do a litel daunse. Make a litel love. Gette thee doune thys nighte.

Wylde Thynge, methinks thou does moeve me, yette I would vouschafe to ascertain with suretye…

114 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 12:40:16am

This bigoted idiot doesn’t understand that the US v. Windsor ruling hasn’t no effect whatsoever on her health insurance:



Sniveling, scapegoating piece of shit.

115 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 1:05:34am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

This bigoted idiot doesn’t understand that the US v. Windsor ruling hasn’t no effect whatsoever on her health insurance:

Sniveling, scapegoating piece of shit.

It’s a zero-sum game, dontcha know? If gay people get something, straight people lose something. There’s only so many civil rights to go around.

116 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 3:12:38am

re: #114 goddamnedfrank

This bigoted idiot needs a life instead of being a whiny-assed dependent piece of stink. What is she, 12? I’ll bet she starts off every sentence with “My husband says…”

Just like some of the idiots where I live who think that because Walmart is cutting their hours to under 30/wk so they don’t have to offer health ins to them is somehow Obama’s fault. When they’re already on Medicaid. Even when they see new employees coming in to fill in the hours they lost because Walmart isn’t screwing them enough already.

They don’t want facts, they just want to whine and get that bigotry out there.

117 William of Orange  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 3:52:03am

George Carlin Somehow Destroyed Rick Perry’s Pro-Life War In 1996!!


So sad this visionary is not with us anymore. Yet from the grave he’s right all the time. Stunning.

“These conservatives are really something, aren’t they? They are all in favor of the unborn, they will do anything for the unborn, but once you’re born, you’re on your own! Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to nine months. After that, they don’t want to know about you, they don’t want to hear from you. No neo-natal care, no daycare, no head start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing! If you’re pre-born, you’re fine. If you’re pre-school, you’re fucked.”

So true…

118 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:09:48am

re: #100 Tigger2

Christie’s not a wingnut, but he sees Medicaid expansion as something of a danger to New Jersey’s finances. In this I think he has the right of it: New Jersey has to get its fiscal house in order before it would be wise to consider expanding an entitlement.

119 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:15:13am

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Medicaid expansion would be economically beneficial to Jersey. The sick and injured people don’t disappear because you decided to not take care of them.

Hey, on the pre-clearance deal, you’ve admitted you were wrong about the counties not being able to opt out. Since that was the mainstay of your argument, do you actually have anything left of your argument about why pre-clearance is bad?

120 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:15:33am

re: #116 Justanotherhuman

This bigoted idiot needs a life instead of being a whiny-assed dependent piece of stink. What is she, 12? I’ll bet she starts off every sentence with “My husband says…”

Just like some of the idiots where I live who think that because Walmart is cutting their hours to under 30/wk so they don’t have to offer health ins to them is somehow Obama’s fault. When they’re already on Medicaid. Even when they see new employees coming in to fill in the hours they lost because Walmart isn’t screwing them enough already.

They don’t want facts, they just want to whine and get that bigotry out there.

Because if they didn’t blame Obama, they’d have to blame their employer, which would then leave them with the hard task of finding another job (since Walmart ain’t gonna change). But blaming Obama lets them pretend they don’t have a bad employer and thus avoid difficult realizations and tasks. It’s laziness mixed with cowardice.

121 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:16:50am

re: #119 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I don’t anything to say on Section 4 this morning. I’m getting ready for a board game and don’t have the time to do much research.

122 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:17:35am

re: #121 Dark_Falcon

I don’t anything to say on Section 4 this morning. I’m getting ready for a board game and don’t have the time to do much research.

Okay. But since that was the only thing you actually had as an argument, what you mean is that you’re starting from the premise that pre-clearance is bad and now you need to go to research to work backwards from that conclusion, right?

123 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:29:04am

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

But most of it is just plain ignorance, aided and abetted by the churches and schools they attend. These are the same people who constantly buy the snake oil, possess no curiosity, and are content to live in the past. Intellectual laziness and cowardice produce ignorant people. And unfortunately, the US is turning out more of them.

124 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:29:58am

re: #119 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Medicaid expansion would be economically beneficial to Jersey. The sick and injured people don’t disappear because you decided to not take care of them.

The bill Christie vetoed would have made the expansion permanent, whereas now there’s an executive option to bail out if the federal matching rate changes. He gets to take the money and come the 2016 primaries also say that he vetoed an expansion bill. This is all about Christie wanting to eat his cake and have it too.

125 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:31:49am

re: #124 goddamnedfrank

Oh, how sleazy.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:37:40am

re: #123 Justanotherhuman

But most of it is just plain ignorance, aided and abetted by the churches and schools they attend. These are the same people who constantly buy the snake oil, possess no curiosity, and are content to live in the past. Intellectual laziness and cowardice produce ignorant people. And unfortunately, the US is turning out more of them.

No, it’s not ignorance: They know what their boss is doing and they’ve heard what it means. But they reject drawing the correct conclusion on the grounds that it will inflict pain upon them.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:46:06am

re: #122 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Okay. But since that was the only thing you actually had as an argument, what you mean is that you’re starting from the premise that pre-clearance is bad and now you need to go to research to work backwards from that conclusion, right?

No, and I accepted the need for pre-clearance in a few cases already. What is needed is a replacement for Section 4, the formula used to determine if pre-clearance should be imposed. Section 5, which covers how pre-clearance works once in place, wasn’t touched by SCOTUS.

To be clear, pre-clearance is a necessary evil, made necessary by the far greater evils that come with abusive government trying to keep people out of the voting booth.

128 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:50:45am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

No, and I accepted the need for pre-clearance in a few cases already. What is needed is a replacement for Section 4, the formula used to determine if pre-clearance should be imposed. Section 5, which covers how pre-clearance works once in place, wasn’t touched by SCOTUS.

To be clear, pre-clearance is a necessary evil, made necessary by the far greater evils that come with abusive government trying to keep people out of the voting booth.

Slate article with 1960s era literacy test:

slate.com

Given a chance, we will start down this path again, perhaps with a Spanish accent.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:51:14am

I would ask the Lizard Army a favor: Please go to this page and fill out the Cloud Security Alliance survey there. We’ve seen surveys messed up by the Paulians, so I’d ask for help in injecting sanity into this one.

130 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:57:47am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I would ask the Lizard Army a favor: Please go to this page and fill out the Cloud Security Alliance survey there. We’ve seen surveys messed up by the Paulians, so I’d ask for help in injecting sanity into this one.

Note: The survey concerns fallout from the Snowden Affair.

131 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:59:30am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

No, and I accepted the need for pre-clearance in a few cases already. What is needed is a replacement for Section 4, the formula used to determine if pre-clearance should be imposed. Section 5, which covers how pre-clearance works once in place, wasn’t touched by SCOTUS.

To be clear, pre-clearance is a necessary evil, made necessary by the far greater evils that come with abusive government trying to keep people out of the voting booth.

Even if Section 4 needed to be improved, removing it, by your logic, was a mistake.

132 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:00:17am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I would ask the Lizard Army a favor: Please go to this page and fill out the Cloud Security Alliance survey there. We’ve seen surveys messed up by the Paulians, so I’d ask for help in injecting sanity into this one.

Anyone who believes the results of an unscientific online poll signify anything is kind of beyond immediate reachability anyway.

133 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:07:13am

re: #131 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Drop it, please.

134 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:12:26am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Drop it, please.

No, dude. You gave a defense of the Supreme Court’s invalidation of section 4. Your reasoning was originally based on the incorrect idea that counties couldn’t opt out. There’s nothing in any way unfair or mean about asking you to defend positions you’ve taken. if you find those positions uncomfortable or difficult to defend, then do a better job of picking positions or of defending them.

From where I stand, it really does look like you’re reasoning backwards, rather than taking an honest look at the situation.

135 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:12:54am

re: #132 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Anyone who believes the results of an unscientific online poll signify anything is kind of beyond immediate reachability anyway.

I was just trying to do my part, Obdi. I don’t like seeing nutcases crap all over a honest attempt to gather information, so I try to get sane people to take the survey to counter them.

136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:14:01am

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

To me, this is like getting people to debate creationists in a public forum. I agree with Gould; showing up gives the veneer of respectability. It’s better to reject the idea of unscientific online polls as a whole.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:17:15am

re: #136 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

To me, this is like getting people to debate creationists in a public forum. I agree with Gould; showing up gives the veneer of respectability. It’s better to reject the idea of unscientific online polls as a whole.

This was a more detailed survey, though, sent by a LinkedIn group I am part of and that I regard fairly well.

138 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:18:06am

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

This was a more detailed survey, though, sent by a LinkedIn group I am part of and that I regard fairly well.

The methodology is still uncontrolled, and it’s unscientific.

139 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:22:58am

re: #138 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The methodology is still uncontrolled, and it’s unscientific.

I think they might thought it was controlled because only members of the group were notified about the survey.

Of course, someone who thinks that would be greatly ignorant as to how the Paulians behave online.

140 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:25:47am

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

That’s not the scientific meaning of ‘controlled’ anyway. I mean, if it was just seeking to solicit opinions within the group, then sure. But then getting others involved to swing it in another direction won’t matter.

141 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:35:35am

Meanwhile, in Westcliffe, CO

Colorado Parade Canceled After Tea Party Group Threatens Armed March

A group of Tea Party members caused fear that a Colorado town’s 4th of July parade won’t be safe to attend because they’ll be carrying weapons.

142 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:40:31am

re: #141 ProTARDISLiberal

What is the point of carrying weapons during a July 4th parade? Period pieces would be OK, but I suspect these TP people want to pack more modern heat.

143 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:50:41am
144 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:50:53am

re: #142 wheat-dogghazi

What is the point of carrying weapons during a July 4th parade? Period pieces would be OK, but I suspect these TP people want to pack more modern heat.

The Southern Colorado Patriots’ Club sent a out a flier advertising the parade and instructing members to bring unloaded rifles, “especially the evil black ones.”

They’re pissed about the magazine ban in Colorado. And they’re not just whistling past the graveyard on this one, since at least one state sen in Colorado will face a recall election over that.

The real question is: Can those opposed to such a law put up viable candidates and back them properly? If the answer is ‘yes’, then the ban may end up repealed. If the answer is ‘no’, then this is just a flash-in-the-pan (to use a phrase from the time of the Revolutionary War).

145 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:51:16am

Derp.

146 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:52:26am

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

A flash in the pan sometimes wasn’t too good for the soldier firing the weapon.

147 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:53:45am

re: #133 Dark_Falcon

Drop it, please.

That’s probably not going to happen. Roberts wrote an opinion declaring section 4 unconstitutional without even trying to say which part of the Constitution it contradicted. That’s just utterly indefensible behavior and rather than defending it out of kneejerk partisan loayalty and then turning a blind eye when all your reasoning proves false it’d be nice to see you just admit for once how hack and unprincipled your favorite justices are.

148 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:54:41am

Tamarod appears to be channeling Hugo Chavez.

149 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:56:43am

re: #148 Gus

Tamarod appears to be channeling Hugo Chavez.

What is Tamarod?

150 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:56:47am

re: #141 ProTARDISLiberal

How neatly they defeat themselves.

151 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:58:40am

re: #141 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, in Westcliffe, CO

Colorado Parade Canceled After Tea Party Group Threatens Armed March

That’s from Think Progress. According to my news search it appears that it’s not really cancelled as of press time.

152 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:59:16am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

What is Tamarod?

Part of the Egyptian rebel movement.

153 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:02:25am

re: #149 Dark_Falcon

What is Tamarod?

They’ve collected 22 million signatures to oust Morsi! Ha. That’s 1/4 of the population. What do they think Morsi is going to do? Step down because Tamarod claims to have 22 million signatures? Jeez, the derp in this world today.

154 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:06:54am

re: #153 Gus

They’ve collected 22 million signatures to oust Morsi! Ha. That’s 1/4 of the population. What do they think Morsi is going to do? Step down because Tamarod claims to have 22 million signatures? Jeez, the derp in this world today.

Desperate people do DERPy things. And Salfists seem to be joining the ‘Rebel’ movement, likely planning to have people in place when it fails to get now-disillusioned young men to go jihadi.

155 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:06:54am

re: #151 Gus

That’s from Think Progress. According to my news search it appears that it’s not really cancelled as of press time.

Cancelled, then restored under new sponsor.

This idiot decided it would be a good idea to go from AL to CO to break the new mag law on the 4th.

blogs.westword.com

156 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:12:54am

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Cancelled, then restored under new sponsor.

This idiot decided it would be a good idea to go from AL to CO to break the new mag law on the 4th.

blogs.westword.com

Thanks. So the parade goes on.

157 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:13:52am

re: #151 Gus

So people who are objecting are forced to have their taxes pay for it, rather than the private Chamber of Commerce. Yeah, that’s real TP stuff.

“The Town of Westcliffe saved the holiday, picking up sponsorship of the parade, but the rift remains.”

denverpost.com

Still not decided or reported: If 300 people will still be able to participate in the parade w/weapons, which no doubt will turn out to be a protest against new laws in effect on Mon.

158 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:13:55am

re: #155 Decatur Deb

Cancelled, then restored under new sponsor.

This idiot decided it would be a good idea to go from AL to CO to break the new mag law on the 4th.

blogs.westword.com

Michael Brian Vanderboegh

159 abolitionist  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:17:12am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

I would ask the Lizard Army a favor: Please go to this page and fill out the Cloud Security Alliance survey there. We’ve seen surveys messed up by the Paulians, so I’d ask for help in injecting sanity into this one.

I’m not inclined to waste time on a survey that does not seem to have been proofread by whoever created it. Bolding is mine:

3. (For all respondents) How would you rate your country’s processes for obtain user information for the purpose of criminal and terrorist investigations?

160 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:18:01am


Derp.

161 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:18:35am

re: #158 Gus

Michael Brian Vanderboegh

Local Hero

162 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:19:00am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Local Hero

From Saudi Alabama //

163 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:20:17am

So yeah, that’s an actual title at CNN. Derpity derp.

164 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:20:21am

re: #160 Gus

Derp.

And statistically, almost certainly not the first even if he were.

165 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:24:45am
166 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:48:42am

re: #163 Gus

So yeah, that’s an actual title at CNN. Derpity derp.

Image: cnn_shuttle.jpg

167 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:51:56am

re: #166 Varek Raith

Image: cnn_shuttle.jpg

Captain Kirk was unavailable for the interview

168 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:52:19am

...

169 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:55:26am


Because when you’re already dabbling in bad jobu, jump in with both feet?

170 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:56:20am

re: #167 sattv4u2

Did he do the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs? /

171 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:58:24am

re: #169 lawhawk

That is some scary stuff.

172 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 6:58:57am

re: #170 lawhawk

Did he do the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs? /

Mixed reference FAIL. [SMACK!]

173 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:02:36am

re: #171 Justanotherhuman

That is some scary stuff.

Want some thing really scary? This post is more popular. Keeping an on loonies attracts fewer readers than a story about Will Smith’s son dating Kim Kardashian’s half-sister.

174 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:02:42am

re: #163 Gus

They’re just posing the question. It would be irresponsible not to.

175 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:04:08am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

OMFG!!!!! They were holding hands!!!

176 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:05:02am

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

Then again, Scotty invented warp transport beaming (Spock via Scotty to be precise), which technology is immediately forgotten since it would mean you’d no longer have to rely on starships to travel.

177 Amory Blaine  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:05:03am

Texting my niece on my tweeter machine…

178 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:10:46am

re: #143 Gus

179 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:12:02am

re: #178 Weet

“Freebird!”

180 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:12:50am

re: #178 Weet

Showdown coming

Me’thinks the SPRING is about to be SPRUNG!

181 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:13:00am

re: #178 Weet

Yep, he has plenty of support in Egypt. I look at Egypt as a red state with blue state pockets in Alexandria and Cairo.

182 dragonath  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:13:01am

Who would have ever thought at the beginning of the season that the Red Sox and Pirates would be the best teams in baseball right now?

183 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:16:12am

Mornin’ everyone.

184 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:17:19am

Now I gotta go.

185 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:19:43am

Okay…who farted?

186 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:20:14am
187 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:23:17am

re: #186 Weet

Can’t they just shut the fuck up until Monday when they have their next special session which will open with SB5 and then close early? We’re going to screw half the population of our state, but we’re going to bitch and whine the whole time we’re doing it. Stupid fuckers.

188 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:23:53am

re: #185 darthstar

Okay…who farted?

Never mind…it was just Texas.

189 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:24:57am

re: #170 lawhawk

Did he do the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs? /

Paul Ryan did that…in two something.

190 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:25:37am

This is a good read on the err of giving Sowdum security clearance.

191 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:27:06am

re: #190 Weet

I read that this morning. It is a good read. I’d love to see some contractors lose their contracts, even though doing thorough background checks would slow hiring in the government sector.

192 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:29:00am

re: #187 darthstar

Can’t they just shut the fuck up until Monday when they have their next special session which will open with SB5 and then close early? We’re going to screw half the population of our state, but we’re going to bitch and whine the whole time we’re doing it. Stupid fuckers.

The sad thing is that Voter ID will really hurt any effort to bring the Democratic vote up. No student ID works anymore. The cost and hassle of getting a birth certificate will prevent more of the poor from getting ID, etc.

Dewhurst is doing all he can to pacify the crazies, as he is going to be primaried. So, let’s just keep the public and the press as far away from the proceedings for SB5 as we can.

The only good that has come from it is that the media was forced to report the corruption of the GOP. That will produce incremental gains.

193 Joanne  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:34:56am

re: #156 Gus

It sucked to think it was cancelled. They said it was a major boost to local businesses.

194 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:36:42am

re: #192 Weet

That will produce incremental gains.

Incremental. Demographically, Texas will be a blue state by 2020. The only way it will remain a red state is by passing voting laws that are more similar to apartheid Africa than post 15th Amendment America.

195 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:37:09am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

Yes, our lust for celebrity is as bad as our half-wittedness.

196 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:39:49am

nap

197 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:40:19am

re: #194 darthstar

Incremental. Demographically, Texas will be a blue state by 2020. The only way it will remain a red state is by passing voting laws that are more similar to apartheid Africa than post 15th Amendment America.

Most reports I have seen predict 2024. I agree with you that it will be earlier. I am sorry to see that so many want Wendy Davis to run in 2014 for Governor. I don’t see success there. I hope they look closely at what a loss will mean to her political career.

198 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:54:12am

Russia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Cuba to Discuss Snowden Asylum in Moscow

Ewan Robertson (VA),- Diplomats from Russia, Ecuador, Venezuela and Cuba will meet in Moscow on Monday to discuss the situation of U.S. intelligence leaker Edward Snowden.

The ex-NSA contractor has requested asylum in Ecuador to avoid what he fears would result in judicial persecution if he is extradited to the United States.

…On Monday diplomats from Russia and the three leftist Latin American countries will meet with human rights activists in the Russian Public Chambers, a consultative body linked to the Kremlin, “to give a social evaluation of the situation,” a Public Chambers spokesperson said.

Observers consider the possibility of Ecuador offering Snowden asylum to have increased after the Ecuadorian government renounced trade preferences with the U.S. as a sign that it “doesn’t accept pressure or threats from anyone”.

Last night Venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro also appeared to further open the door to Snowden, stating that if an asylum request was made, Venezuela would be willing to offer the whistleblower protection.

“No one has requested us asylum for him [Snowden], but if he wants, Venezuela is willing to protect this brave young man in a humanitarian way, so that humanity knows the truth,” Maduro said at an event in the presidential palace.

199 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:56:50am

I think Snowden needs a new travel agent. How many days stuck in the Moscow airport?

200 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 7:58:30am

re: #198 NJDhockeyfan

Political cant in its entirety.

201 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:01:12am
According to the United Network for Organ Sharing (UNOS), 43 transplant patients in 2012 received a second transplant within seven days of the first transplant, out of more than 20,000 transplants. Most of those were livers; none were lungs.

In 2010 and 2011, UNOS said, seven lung-transplant recipients got a second transplant soon after the first. From 2010 through 2012, 42 lung-transplant patients - less than 1 percent - got a second set of lungs within six months.

Sarah, who has cystic fibrosis, still faces a grim prognosis. Studies show the chances of surviving a year are dramatically reduced by factors that include being on a ventilator before transplant, suffering graft failure, and undergoing a second transplant.

On Monday, Sarah must undergo yet another procedure to “flatten” her diaphragm and, it is hoped, improve its function, her mother said. Her diaphragm is partially paralyzed, which is why an attempt to take her off the ventilator Wednesday was unsuccessful.

In intervening and overriding transplant procedures established by medical experts the court has now potentially jeopardized the chances for two adult candidates. I truly feel for her parents but the reason we temper strict need with a certain degree of cold statistical analysis is that the donor’s sacrifice needs to be honored and not deployed as a forlorn hope.

202 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:01:57am

re: #198 NJDhockeyfan

Hah. “Come to Caracas, you probably have like a 20% chance of living peacefully for a year.”

203 thedopefishlives  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:06:27am

Morning Lizardim.

204 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:06:35am

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205 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:20:28am

Daughter One put me on to this viral literary meme: Amazon reviews of Wendy Davis’ sneakers.

There are 254 so far. A leader at the moment:

1,200 of 1,248 people found the following review helpful
1.0 out of 5 stars

Men, do not try these on!
I tried on a pair at the local mall and suddenly Texas Republicans started telling me what to do with my genitals. They started explaining reproduction to me like I was a seventh grader. Unfortunately, being male, I had no way to shut the whole thing down. I’m so confused…

amazon.com

206 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:21:42am

Link inserted above.

207 thedopefishlives  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:22:27am

re: #205 Decatur Deb

Awesome sauce.

208 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:27:34am

re: #202 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Hah. “Come to Caracas, you probably have like a 20% chance of living peacefully for a year.”

And don’t forget to bring lots of toilet paper!

209 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:32:08am

re: #205 Decatur Deb

3,270 of 3,318 people found the following review helpful

5.0 out of 5 stars Fits perfectly up a republican’s rear end, June 26, 2013


This review is from: Mizuno Women’s Wave Rider 16 Running Shoe (Apparel)
When I first began wearing these shoes I thought my reproductive rights were secure. Turns out, I couldn’t have been more wrong. Luckily these shoes are really great for kicking republican legislators out of office! They want to shut down reproductive and health care facilities for the poor in Texas? Use these shoes to shut down the state capital!

These go perfectly with any back brace you may need after good old fashion filibusting for 9 hours (with 4 more to go). What’s that? Your crappy mean spirited colleagues on the other side of the isle say it isn’t fair? That’s right ladies, this shoe is completely washable, so just shove it up their ass.

Most importantly, even if you wear these gems without sox for three days straight, they still smell better than a republican Lt Governor who tries to push a law through past midnight, which is absolutely and completely illegal. Yea, pretty stinky I know.

Go Wendy Go #StandWithWedy

210 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:34:39am

re: #209 Weet

If you drill down through the reviews, you hit the laudatory haiku.

211 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:38:35am

re: #166 Varek Raith

OK. I’ll bite. Why is CNN airing a report about Columbia, which went down in September 2003?

18 times the speed of light is what, Warp 3? Not a good idea to enter warp so deep in a gravity well.

212 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:38:55am
Outside the Stonewall Inn, as a crowd was celebrating the Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling, stood Don Russell, 84, and his 100-year-old partner, Charles Schaeffer.

These two men have been together for 62 YEARS.

When they started dating, Harry Truman was president. It was an entirely different world for gay men, to put it mildly.

“You couldn’t walk around like this,” said Don, looking down. Their hands were clasped tightly together

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213 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:39:57am

re: #211 wheat-dogghazi

OK. I’ll bite. Why is CNN airing a report about Columbia, which went down in September 2003?

18 times the speed of light is what, Warp 3? Not a good idea to enter warp so deep in a gravity well.

CNN was still relevant in 1993.

214 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:47:16am

re: #211 wheat-dogghazi

OK. I’ll bite. Why is CNN airing a report about Columbia, which went down in September 2003?

18 times the speed of light is what, Warp 3? Not a good idea to enter warp so deep in a gravity well.

Warp 2.381 to be exact.
/Nerd

215 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:49:00am

re: #214 Varek Raith

Warp 2.381 to be exact.
/Nerd

Is that canon?

/nitpicking nerd

216 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:52:10am

re: #215 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Is that canon?

/nitpicking nerd

Give or take. Enterprise kind of borked it up.
I ignore Enterprise.
;)

217 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:52:28am

Death Valley temperature watch:

104 Degrees at Stovepipe Wells. At 8:10AM PDT (latest observation).

218 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:53:54am

re: #217 lawhawk

But it’s a dry heat. /Hudson

219 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:54:01am

A caution on “Wendy’s” Mizunos from deep in the reviews:

3.0 out of 5 stars The Shoes are great and so is Wendy, but…,
This review is from: Mizuno Women’s Wave Rider 16 Running Shoe (Apparel)
I love what Wendy has done and it has made me feel proud to be a Texan and honestly I love those shoes, but this is important information to know:
“A search on the FEC’s political donations database reveals that Mizuno President Robert Puccini has donated at least twice to the Republican National Committee and voted for Mitt Romney in 2012. So, that could have something to do with the company’s lack of enthusiasm”
So instead of buying these give the money to Wendy Davis’s campaign of your are looking to story her cause.

220 stabby  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:54:40am

re: #90 dragonath

Uh, this seems kind of important:

New Jersey’s Christie vetoes Medicaid expansion bill

Remember to bring up how Christie fucked over the poor in his district every time Christie runs for anything. FUCK Christie

221 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:56:41am

re: #219 Decatur Deb

A caution on “Wendy’s” Mizunos from deep in the reviews:

3.0 out of 5 stars The Shoes are great and so is Wendy, but…,
This review is from: Mizuno Women’s Wave Rider 16 Running Shoe (Apparel)
I love what Wendy has done and it has made me feel proud to be a Texan and honestly I love those shoes, but this is important information to know:
“A search on the FEC’s political donations database reveals that Mizuno President Robert Puccini has donated at least twice to the Republican National Committee and voted for Mitt Romney in 2012. So, that could have something to do with the company’s lack of enthusiasm”
So instead of buying these give the money to Wendy Davis’s campaign of your are looking to story her cause.

Besides that, I hate the colors…

222 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:57:03am
223 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:57:13am

re: #214 Varek Raith

Warp 2.381 to be exact.
/Nerd

Cochrane or TNG scale?

/Tech Nerd

224 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:57:33am

re: #223 Targetpractice

Cochrane or TNG scale?

/Tech Nerd

TNG.

225 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:58:12am

re: #220 stabby

Ummm.. before Christie became governor, he didn’t hold office in the legislature. It was only as a prosecutor.

And as the article notes, he’s for implementing the expansion, but not for making the changes permanent as the bill allows:

Christie, a critic of Obamacare, said in February he would accept federal money to expand Medicaid in New Jersey, and the state budget he signed on Friday included $227 million in such funds.

Democrats in the state Senate and Assembly had passed a bill seeking to make that Medicaid expansion permanent, but Christie vetoed it, a spokesman for the governor said.

The vetoed bill would have removed the flexibility to opt out of the Medicaid expansion if the federal government changed the terms of the current favorable matching rate, the spokesman said. The governor had discussed publicly his intention to maintain this flexibility when he signed onto the expansion, the spokesman said.

It’s a little more nuanced than a flat-out rejection.

226 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:58:36am

re: #216 Varek Raith

Give or take. Enterprise kind of borked it up.
I ignore Enterprise.
;)

Well… except for season 4.

227 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 8:58:46am

re: #224 Varek Raith

TNG.

Ah, so it’ll only take us a few years to reach the nearest inhabited star system then.

228 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:00:33am

re: #227 Targetpractice

Ah, so it’ll only take us a few years to reach the nearest inhabited start system then.

star

What are you thinking of as the nearest inhabited system?

229 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:02:15am

re: #228 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Vega, of course. /

230 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:02:49am

Fucking trekkies.

231 Weet  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:03:25am
233 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:05:00am

re: #228 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

star

What are you thinking of as the nearest inhabited system?

40 Eridani.

234 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:05:21am

re: #216 Varek Raith

Give or take. Enterprise kind of borked it up.
I ignore Enterprise.
;)

Enterprise was mediocre, but it had a certain appeal. In the right hands, it could have been a survivor, but Coto was brought in too late to revive the patient.

Hard to believe that Star Trek has been around for almost 50 years, longer than Star Wars. Whoda thunk?

235 Stanghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:05:35am

re: #225 lawhawk

Ummm.. before Christie became governor, he didn’t hold office in the legislature. It was only as a prosecutor.

And as the article notes, he’s for implementing the expansion, but not for making the changes permanent as the bill allows:

It’s a little more nuanced than a flat-out rejection.

Exactly. Permanent is the key word most are missing. We will see who’s in office when it runs out.

236 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:06:45am

re: #231 Weet

The longer he spends in a terminal in Moscow, the better, in my opinion. I hope he’s got nothing to read and nowhere to charge his four laptops. Let him enjoy the glamour of being a traitor on the run.

237 darthstar  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:08:13am

re: #233 Targetpractice

40 Eridani.

There’s no water on that planet.

238 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:08:45am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi

Enterprise was mediocre, but it had a certain appeal. In the right hands, it could have been a survivor, but Coto was brought in too late to revive the patient.

Hard to believe that Star Trek has been around for almost 50 years, longer than Star Wars. Whoda thunk?

What Coto really showed, at least in my opinion, is what Enterprise could have been if an actual fan of the franchise had been put at the helm from the beginning and allowed to delve into its past, rather than two smug pricks who felt that their previous magnum opus (Voyager) was such a hit that they could remake it with a different cast and still have the same “success.”

239 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:10:59am

re: #218 lawhawk

Image: original.jpg

240 austin_blue  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:11:51am

Morning, all!

It’s 11:09 in Austin. 97 degrees, heat index of 101, and the NYT crossword was intimidating looking but dead easy today. Seventeen minutes may be my best time evah!

Hope all are well.

241 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:13:22am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi

Enterprise was mediocre, but it had a certain appeal. In the right hands, it could have been a survivor, but Coto was brought in too late to revive the patient.

Hard to believe that Star Trek has been around for almost 50 years, longer than Star Wars. Whoda thunk?

Also when Coto came along, too many people had already given up and didn’t check back (including me). As to the show, there was nothing wrong with the idea of the “first mission,” but oh, what they did with it (which is my opinion of the current movies. The printable portion, anyway.).

50 years? I saw some of the first season when it aired. Can it really be 50 years….

242 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:13:49am

Temporal coldwar.
Yeah, no.

243 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:14:41am

re: #240 austin_blue

Morning, all!

It’s 11:09 in Austin. 97 degrees, heat index of 101, and the NYT crossword was intimidating looking but dead easy today. Seventeen minutes may be my best time evah!

In ink, of course?

244 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:14:48am

re: #238 Targetpractice

What Coto really showed, at least in my opinion, is what Enterprise could have been if an actual fan of the franchise had been put at the helm from the beginning and allowed to delve into its past, rather than two smug pricks who felt that their previous magnum opus (Voyager) was such a hit that they could remake it with a different cast and still have the same “success.”

I watched Voyager, and liked it at the beginning, but the constant deus ex machina plot devices and encounters with species supposedly thousands of light-years away got to be tiring real fast. Brannan and Braga seemed to have no overall plan for the series, other than the thin premise the crew was trying to get home.

245 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:15:20am

re: #242 Varek Raith

Temporal coldwar.
Yeah, no.

At least the way it ended made it possible to argue that none of the first three Enterprise seasons happened. :)

246 Decatur Deb  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:15:53am

re: #240 austin_blue

Morning, all!

It’s 11:09 in Austin. 97 degrees, heat index of 101, and the NYT crossword was intimidating looking but dead easy today. Seventeen minutes may be my best time evah!

Hope all are well.

Pssst. They make a Texas edition. Seven, Down, should have been the give-away: “Yee-Haw”.

247 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:16:27am

re: #242 Varek Raith

Temporal coldwar.
Yeah, no.

That’s just the top of the whole smelly pile that stretched on for three seasons. Right below it I’d add “smug Vulcans,” “Akiraprise,” “phase pistols,” and the whole damned Xindi arc that might as well have had “Heart of Darkness” scrawled across it in big red letters.

248 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:16:52am

re: #244 wheat-dogghazi

I watched Voyager, and liked it at the beginning, but the constant deus ex machina plot devices and encounters with species supposedly thousands of light-years away got to be tiring real fast. Brannan and Braga seemed to have no overall plan for the series, other than the thin premise the crew was trying to get home.

Yeah, great moments, not so good overall. (And a spacefaring culture with a WATER shortage?!? Give me a break.)

249 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:18:45am

re: #247 Targetpractice

The only thing I really liked from the beginning arc was the fleshing out of the Andorians, which I thought was pretty well-done.

250 austin_blue  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:18:53am

re: #243 wrenchwench

In ink, of course?

But of course. Erasers are for cowards.

251 austin_blue  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:22:14am

re: #246 Decatur Deb

Pssst. They make a Texas edition. Seven, Down, should have been the give-away: “Yee-Haw”.

Actually, it was 5 Down: “Famous last words”. Thirteen letters.

Answer: “Y’all watch this”.

252 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:22:58am

re: #249 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The only thing I really liked from the beginning arc was the fleshing out of the Andorians, which I thought was pretty well-done.

Oh, there was some good things that came out of the first few seasons. It’s just that it was mixed in with such a mess of utter crap that the series never really had a chance. Had Coto been onboard for even half the series, I think it might have stayed around longer. Certainly he knew where he wanted to go and what he wanted to accomplish.

253 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:25:55am

re: #241 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Also when Coto came along, too many people had already given up and didn’t check back (including me). As to the show, there was nothing wrong with the idea of the “first mission,” but oh, what they did with it (which is my opinion of the current movies. The printable portion, anyway.).

50 years? I saw some of the first season when it aired. Can it really be 50 years….

I stuck with Enterprise through seasons 1-3, and saw some eps in season 4. But I missed enough of them that the series stopped making sense, and I lost interest. Probably worth looking at them again someday when I’m bored …

As for the new movies, I like them. The reboot and liberties taken with “canon” don’t bother me. After reading comics for 50+ years, I’m used to retcons, reboots, inconsistencies, and character deaths and rebirths. Star Trek has become modern mythology, like Superman and Batman. Trying to piece together Greek mythology into a unified narrative is likewise impossible.

254 prairiefire  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:26:39am

re: #236 darthstar

The longer he spends in a terminal in Moscow, the better, in my opinion. I hope he’s got nothing to read and nowhere to charge his four laptops. Let him enjoy the glamour of being a traitor on the run.

I bet his constipation is at a wretched degree.

255 Interesting Times  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:27:45am

re: #254 prairiefire

I bet his constipation is at a wretched degree.

On the contrary, he and Greenwald have both put out copious amounts of shit.

256 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:29:19am

re: #254 prairiefire

I bet his constipation is at a wretched degree.

An AP reporter wangled his way into staying in the capsule hotel where Snowden is supposedly holed up. He never found his man, but his description of the transit section of the hotel reminded me of a nice, clean prison, where you pay out the nose for everything — and you don’t get wifi.

257 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:32:47am

re: #256 wheat-dogghazi

Why should he need wifi? The Russians have his laptops.

258 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:35:53am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Maxwell Smart was a genius compared to Edward Snowden. Who the hell wanders around the world with four laptops, crowing that he’s made off with lots of top-secret shit from the NSA?

259 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:39:41am

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi

I stuck with Enterprise through seasons 1-3, and saw some eps in season 4. But I missed enough of them that the series stopped making sense, and I lost interest. Probably worth looking at them again someday when I’m bored …

As for the new movies, I like them. The reboot and liberties taken with “canon” don’t bother me. After reading comics for 50+ years, I’m used to retcons, reboots, inconsistencies, and character deaths and rebirths. Star Trek has become modern mythology, like Superman and Batman. Trying to piece together Greek mythology into a unified narrative is likewise impossible.

Most of Season 4 was good, though I advise not watching the series finale beyond the last couple minutes of it, as any more might be grounds for property damage.

And I’m giving JJ a lot of latitude in the reboot, mostly because A) I can excuse the differences as a the result of timey-wimey alternate realities, and B) because he’s actually making the effort to listen to fans rather than telling them to buzz off because it’s his interpretation that matters. If I have any problems, it’s that he’s not as clever as he thinks he is. Not to spoil things too much, but when the “big reveal” came in the second film, my first response was “I knew it.”

260 Targetpractice  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:40:27am

re: #258 wheat-dogghazi

Maxwell Smart was a genius compared to Edward Snowden. Who the hell wanders around the world with four laptops, crowing that he’s made off with lots of top-secret shit from the NSA?

Might as well just walk around with a sandwich board that says “I am an American spy.”

261 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:44:46am

re: #260 Targetpractice

Might as well just walk around with a sandwich board that says “I am an American spy.”

Like Bruce Willis in Die Hard with a Vengeance, standing in Harlem with the sandwich board: “I hate n*****s.”

re: #259 Targetpractice

Ugh. I saw it. I wanted to throw a brick at the screen. Fortunately, none were at hand. Perhaps the lamest end to any TV series ever.

262 Political Atheist  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:46:34am

re: #231 Weet

DHS: Over last 5 yrs US has returned 1,700 Russian citizens to Russia w/ 500+ of them being criminal deportations. nyti.ms

Okay, but how many of those 500 stole Russian intel and showed up at LAX to talk to the CIA? Sure he will get released. After he gets squeezed so hard for information that the picture of the scenario is more raisin than grape. Whatever he knew or had stolen our strategic opponents now have.

263 Shockingly, Pathetically Low  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:46:50am

re: #253 wheat-dogghazi

I stuck with Enterprise through seasons 1-3, and saw some eps in season 4. But I missed enough of them that the series stopped making sense, and I lost interest. Probably worth looking at them again someday when I’m bored …

As for the new movies, I like them. The reboot and liberties taken with “canon” don’t bother me. After reading comics for 50+ years, I’m used to retcons, reboots, inconsistencies, and character deaths and rebirths. Star Trek has become modern mythology, like Superman and Batman. Trying to piece together Greek mythology into a unified narrative is likewise impossible.

It’s not so much the playing with canon, the new imaging of the characters irritates me, Kirk’s instant promotion REALLY irritates me (think midshipman in command of battleship — it really wouldn’t matter how talented the midshipman), and the stories are stale rehashes of things that have been overtold already.

I might not mind seeing the same plot over and over if there were something fresh in the presentation.

264 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:48:49am

re: #76 ProTARDISLiberal

We need the Burn Ward, stat!

SF City Hall will stay open ALL weekend to issue marriage licenses, though Louie Gohmert was rebuffed when he brought his dog .

My wife says, “Isn’t that what SSM means? Same Species Marriage?”

265 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:53:21am

re: #263 Shockingly, Pathetically Low

Well, I have to admit, giving a cocksure green recruit command of a starship is not the smartest thing. I mean, surely there would have to be some other officer on board with more experience, but I think the premise is that Kirk is somehow an über-captain.

Into Darkness suffers from some awfully trite plot devices: Kirk in the plasma chamber dying of radiation and Spock on the outside, Khan yet again, and the Enterprise destroyed and rebuilt for the umpteenth time, but we’re in a different timeline supposedly, and all the preceding “history” we saw never happened.

Or something.

266 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:57:04am

Computer, end simulation.

267 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:57:39am

re: #158 Gus

Michael Brian Vanderboegh

That would be officials of the very same government, as it turns out, that sends Mike Vanderboegh, each and every month, a disability check for $1,300.

Fucking hypocrite.

268 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:57:47am

re: #265 wheat-dogghazi

A lot was addressed and treated as homage to TOS. That included the references to Khan, Space Seed, and then WoK and the Spock death scene, which was reimagined in reverse.

Considering the original WoK is a couple decades old, it was envisioned as a way to bring new fans in, with enough of the references to the old stuff for the long time fans.

I’d love to see a great original story furthering the sci-fi and take it in a different direction, but these are big budget flicks for mass consumption, and they’re going to pull their punches.

That said, Into Darkness did explore the nature of terrorism, the Prime Directive, and rogue elements within the Federation that are always drumming the beat of war (shades of the current defense establishment in the US).

269 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:57:50am

re: #230 darthstar

Fucking trekkies.

Conventional wisdom holds that there are no fucking trekkies.

270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 9:58:41am

re: #234 wheat-dogghazi

Enterprise was mediocre, but it had a certain appeal. In the right hands, it could have been a survivor, but Coto was brought in too late to revive the patient.

Hard to believe that Star Trek has been around for almost 50 years, longer than Star Wars. Whoda thunk?

Um, anyone who was alive in the 1960’s?

271 calochortus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:05:03am

re: #212 darthstar

Image: 1013479_483540008391609_226264575_n.jpg

I wish I could upding this again. Old people with a long, long history of love and life together are the most beautiful thing in the world. (Well, OK, babies are pretty cute too…) IMHO anyone who doesn’t think so either hasn’t thought it through clearly or is under the age of 30.

272 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:07:22am

re: #267 Romantic Heretic

Fucking hypocrite.

Fucking nutburger. These gun nuts from out of state trying to raise a ruckus in our state can stuff it. Ol’ Mike there needs to stay in Alabama an shut his pie hole. Anyway, local write up on that here:

wetmountaintribune.com

273 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:07:57am

WHY I WANT TO MARCH IN THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE WITH MAH AR-15! FREEDUM!

274 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:09:10am

re: #270 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Um, anyone who was alive in the 1960’s?

I meant, did any of us watching The Original Series imagine we would still be watching new adventures of Kirk and company in 2013? How many TV/movie franchises have ever lasted that long?

275 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:12:40am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi

I meant, did any of us watching The Original Series imagine we would still be watching new adventures of Kirk and company in 2013? How many TV/movie franchises have ever lasted that long?

You’ve got a point, but just off the top of my head, Superman, Sherlock Holmes and Perry Mason:

Robert Downey Jr. & Warner Bros.Team Up For ‘Perry Mason’ Reboot

276 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:14:05am

Here are the other assholes trying to ruin Westcliffe’s 4th parade.

Since when was the 4th about a bunch of middle aged white dudes carrying around semi-automatics and handguns? WTF.

277 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:16:02am

Christmas parade! I are bringin’ mah gunz. Derp.

278 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:17:42am
279 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:18:00am

re: #275 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Well, Superman started out as a comic book, not as a TV series. Sherlock (which Doyle wanted to kill off early on) has had long gaps when nothing new was being developed. So, I argue Star Trek is still longest franchise.

The Perry Mason reboot is news to me, but still there have been no PM TV shows or movies for decades. I stand corrected. I followed your link. I hadn’t remembered Perry Mason was a book character from the 1930s.

Still not a TV beginning, though.

280 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:23:40am

Another one.

281 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:27:36am

Well, this is annoying.
Something is creating a bunch of 0 byte temp files on my desktop…

282 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:28:07am

re: #275 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

You’ve got a point, but just off the top of my head, Superman, Sherlock Holmes and Perry Mason:

Robert Downey Jr. & Warner Bros.Team Up For ‘Perry Mason’ Reboot

Him? Well, that’s good news for my wallet. I won’t be spending money on that movie.

283 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:29:15am

re: #281 Varek Raith

Well, this is annoying.
Something is creating a bunch of 0 byte temp files on my desktop…

PRISM!

284 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:31:58am

Ahh, the smell of nerds in the morning.

Please, take a shower you guys!

285 Varek Raith  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:33:15am

Off to lunch.
Later.

286 Gus  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:33:29am

re: #284 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Ahh, the smell of nerds in the morning.

Please, take a shower you guys!

Boxing Day Parade! Hey, can we show up at your parade with are gunz? It’s are right you know.

287 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:33:44am

re: #281 Varek Raith

Well, this is annoying.
Something is creating a bunch of 0 byte temp files on my desktop…

Electronic microbes.

288 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:35:13am

re: #286 Gus

Boxing Day Parade! Hey, can we show up at your parade with are gunz? It’s are right you know.

I said nerd, not nerf.

289 sagehen  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:53:42am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi

I meant, did any of us watching The Original Series imagine we would still be watching new adventures of Kirk and company in 2013? How many TV/movie franchises have ever lasted that long?

en.wikipedia.org

Guiding Light (known as The Guiding Light before 1975, abbreviated commonly as GL) is an American television soap opera that is credited by the Guinness Book of World Records as the longest-running television drama in history, broadcast from 1952 until 2009, preceded by a 15-year broadcast on radio.[1] Guiding Light stands as the third longest-running program in all of broadcast history; only the Norwegian children’s radio program Laurdagsbarnetimen (first aired in 1924) and the American country music radio program Grand Ole Opry (first broadcast in 1925) have been on the air longer.

290 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 10:55:40am

re: #194 darthstar

Incremental. Demographically, Texas will be a blue state by 2020. The only way it will remain a red state is by passing voting laws that are more similar to apartheid Africa than post 15th Amendment America.

I’d say, “Don’t give them any ideas!” but that’s exactly what they intend to do.

291 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 12:14:32pm

re: #281 Varek Raith

Well, this is annoying.
Something is creating a bunch of 0 byte temp files on my desktop…

Aborted downloads?

292 stabby  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 1:25:10pm

re: #269 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Conventional wisdom holds that there are no fucking trekkies.

Image: virgin_client.gif

293 lawhawk  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 1:48:23pm

re: #276 Gus

Speaking of 4th of July parades, the chairs are out in Ridgewood, NJ (they’ve been doing parades in town since 1910 and residents stake out their spots along the way days in advance). It’s a tradition to stake out spots that goes back decades.

294 AlexRogan  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:19:50pm

re: #280 Gus

Another one.

Forget it, Jake, it’s Chinatown Alabama…


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