Dr. Ben Carson Cites Far Right Crank W. Cleon Skousen in Speech Against Gay Marriage

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Dr. Ben Carson (Young Earth Creationist, Birther) recently cited a book called The Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen, in a speech against marriage equality:

If you look at the writings of a lot of the neo-Marxists, when they talk about the New World Order, they say there’s only one stick in the mud - the United States. How do you get them out of the way? Or how do you change them? And they said there are two fundamental things - the Judeo-Christian faith, and their strong families. Those were the things that had to be attacked, and those things have been systemically attacked over the last several decades. There’s a booked called The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen, the same guy who wrote The 5000 Year Leap, that lays out the whole agenda.

If you’ve been a regular reader of LGF over the past several years, the name W. Cleon Skousen has come up a few times, particularly The 5000 Year Leap, as Glenn Beck (among others), is a self described disciple of Skousen, best described as a right wing crank:

What has Beck been pushing on his legions? “Leap,” first published in 1981, is a heavily illustrated and factually challenged attempt to explain American history through an unspoken lens of Mormon theology. As such, it is an early entry in the ongoing attempt by the religious right to rewrite history. Fundamentalists want to define the United States as a Christian nation rather than a secular republic, and recast the Founding Fathers as devout Christians guided by the Bible rather than deists inspired by French and English philosophers. “Leap” argues that the U.S. Constitution is a godly document above all else, based on natural law, and owes more to the Old and New Testaments than to the secular and radical spirit of the Enlightenment. It lists 28 fundamental beliefs — based on the sayings and writings of Moses, Jesus, Cicero, John Locke, Montesquieu and Adam Smith — that Skousen says have resulted in more God-directed progress than was achieved in the previous 5,000 years of every other civilization combined. The book reads exactly like what it was until Glenn Beck dragged it out of Mormon obscurity: a textbook full of aggressively selective quotations intended for conservative religious schools like Utah’s George Wythe University, where it has been part of the core freshman curriculum for decades (and where Beck spoke at this year’s annual fundraiser).

But more interesting than the contents of “The 5,000 Year Leap,” and more revealing for what it says about 912ers and the Glenn Beck Nation, is the book’s author. W. Cleon Skousen was not a historian so much as a player in the history of the American far right; less a scholar of the republic than a threat to it. At least, that was the judgment of J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI, which maintained a file on Skousen for years that eventually totaled some 2,000 pages. Before he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen’s own Mormon church publicly distanced itself from the foundation that Skousen founded and that has published previous editions of “The 5,000 Year Leap.”

As Beck knows, to focus solely on “The 5,000 Year Leap” is to sell the author short. When he died in 2006 at the age of 92, Skousen had authored more than a dozen books and pamphlets on the Red Menace, New World Order conspiracy, Christian child rearing, and Mormon end-times prophecy. It is a body of work that does much to explain Glenn Beck’s bizarre conspiratorial mash-up of recent months, which decries a new darkness at noon and finds strange symbols carefully coded in the retired lobby art of Rockefeller Center. It also suggests that the modern base of the Republican Party is headed to a very strange place.

Hat tip for the above Charles. That excerpt was from a 2009 Salon article You should read that whole article, as well listen to the other clips in the Right Wing Watch I’ve posted.

And let me remind you again that Dr. Ben Carson is a rising star in the conservative movement, primarily because he is perceived as having “bravely” spoken conservative truths with the evil Marxist Fascist Maoist Anti-Christ Secretly Muslim Secretly Gay Kenyan with Totalitarian Cravings President Barack Hussein Obama.

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48 comments
1 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:01:45am

If you look at the writings of a lot of the neo-Marxists, when they talk about the New World Order..

OFFS

2 Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2014 10:03:38am

Did something happen to the end of the post?

(You know you can edit it, right?)

3 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 10:07:19am

Formatting fixed.

4 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 10:08:39am

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Did something happen to the end of the post?

(You know you can edit it, right?)

Yes, I just did. Don’t know why, but after I tried giving credit to you for your Skousen post in ‘09, everything else dropped off. But I’ve fixed it, so it’s cool.

5 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 10:09:24am

re: #1 Bulworth

If you look at the writings of a lot of the neo-Marxists, when they talk about the New World Order..

OFFS

That’s black helicopter country…

6 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:21:29am

There’s a book called The Naked Communist by Cleon Skousen, the same guy who wrote The 5000 Year Leap, that lays out the whole agenda.

And we should read this crank’s books and accept his ideas uncritically, of course. Thanks, Dr.

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7 Kragar  Jun 27, 2014 10:28:00am
Earlier in the speech, Carson told the audience that gay-rights opponents are the real victims of “injustice” because they just want to be “left alone.”

“All we want to do is impose our world view on everyone and keep American citizens who have different beliefs from having the same rights as us. Why do you keep oppressing us?”

8 klys  Jun 27, 2014 10:30:33am

I just don’t understand how people who believe this nonsense are taken seriously. I’d like to believe that at some point the sane people just need to break away.

This clearly hasn’t happened yet though, and I’m starting to worry about what it will take to cause that and how much damage will be done in the meantime.

9 Testy Toad T  Jun 27, 2014 10:31:50am

re: #1 Bulworth

If you look at the writings of a lot of the neo-Marxists, when they talk about the New World Order..

OFFS

It’s like a 1993 windshield-wiper flyer crawled into my internet and started to grow mold.

10 RadicalModerate  Jun 27, 2014 10:32:07am

re: #5 thecommodore

That’s black helicopter country…

More like John Birch Society and neo-Nazi country.

11 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:33:36am

Hey Dr, do you remember the last time a group of Americans last claimed that Commie Marxists were behind a rights and equality based movement? I’ll give you a few minutes on this…..

12 Joanne  Jun 27, 2014 10:34:13am

re: #1 Bulworth

If you look at the writings of a lot of the neo-Marxists, when they talk about the New World Order..

OFFS

Except the only people I see talking about New World Order are nuts like Carson and Beck.

13 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:34:15am

re:
#9

Almost spit up a little at that….

14 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 27, 2014 10:34:21am

Does Dr. Ben know that Skousen is a white supremacist?

15 EPR-radar  Jun 27, 2014 10:36:04am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

Does Dr. Ben know that Skousen is a white supremacist?

Probably. But I’m sure Mr. Carson doesn’t care, as long as the checks from the RWNJs continue to clear.

16 wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2014 10:36:06am

A RWNJ is pretty indiscriminate when it comes to grabbing some RWNJ philosophy. Carson cited Skousen and Alinsky in the same breath, as though everything Skousen predicted was shown to be happening in Alinsky’s book.

They can get away with this because they know their followers don’t read books.

17 wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2014 10:37:27am

re: #9 Testy Toad T

It’s like a 1993 windshield-wiper flyer crawled into my internet and started to grow mold.

I doubt Dr. Carson has his own collection of such flyers, but I am sure he has access to someone’s collection.

18 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 10:39:10am

re: #16 wrenchwench

They can get away with this because they know their followers don’t read books.

Or think for themselves.

19 Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2014 10:39:21am

re: #14 Pie-onist Overlord

Does Dr. Ben know that Skousen is a white supremacist?

NWO conspiracy theories are a hallmark of white supremacists; I would say it’s one of their core beliefs, and though there are many variations on it, it all comes to one thing in the end.

TEH JUICE!!

20 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:39:23am

What the hell. This is like something between World Net Daily and Alex Jones.

21 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:40:08am

Jesus and flying saucers.

22 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 27, 2014 10:40:35am

re: #15 EPR-radar

Probably. But I’m sure Mr. Carson doesn’t care, as long as the checks from the RWNJs continue to clear.

Ben Carson is a genius, just like Mozart!

23 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:41:04am

Buick on acid. //

24 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:41:41am

re:
#7

Yeah, all we’re asking is that you conform to our beliefs and not have the freedom, dignity and love that you want. Because if we let you have those things than we won’t have freedom, we won’t be able to, um, not bake cakes, or something

25 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:43:29am

Speaking of which.

“Oklahoma Republican Claims His Opponent Is Dead, Was Replaced By Body Double”

26 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:44:27am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

NWO conspiracy theories are a hallmark of white supremacists; I would say it’s one of their core beliefs, and though there are many variations on it, it all comes to one thing in the end.

TEH JUICE!!

They control Hollywood.

//Gary Oldman

27 Kragar  Jun 27, 2014 10:45:25am

re: #25 Gus

Speaking of which.

“Oklahoma Republican Claims His Opponent Is Dead, Was Replaced By Body Double”

KFOR in Oklahoma reports that Timothy Ray Murray believes Rep. Frank Lucas (R-Okla.), his opponent in the congressional Republican primary, was executed three years ago and is being represented by a look-alike. Because he believes Lucas is really dead, Murray said he will challenge the results of Tuesday’s Republican primary, in which Murray received 5.2 percent of the vote. Lucas won the primary with 82.8 percent of the vote.

“It is widely known Rep. Frank D. Lucas is no longer alive and has been displayed by a look alike. Rep. Lucas’ look alike was depicted as sentenced on a white stage in southern Ukraine on or about Jan. 11, 2011,” Murray said in a statement posted on his campaign website.

“I am contesting that this matter has happen [sic] since his election was blocked, because of the U.S. Defense Department’s use of Mr. Murray’s DNA. To my knowledge, the U.S. Defense Department has not released to the public that information, as it is their confidential information about many people,” the statement said.

28 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:46:57am

re: #27 Kragar

[Embedded content]

See, this is what happens when you legalize the evil jute. Oops, wait.

29 CuriousLurker  Jun 27, 2014 10:47:33am

re: #19 Dr Lizardo

NWO conspiracy theories are a hallmark of white supremacists; I would say it’s one of their core beliefs, and though there are many variations on it, it all comes to one thing in the end.

TEH JUICE!!

I was just thinking the same thing: NWO > Bilderberg group/bankers > The Juice

30 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:48:00am

Satan!

31 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:48:21am

re:
#27

[last lines]

CIA Superior: What did we learn, Palmer?

CIA Officer: I don’t know, sir.

CIA Superior: I don’t fuckin’ know either. I guess we learned not to do it again.

CIA Officer: Yes, sir.

CIA Superior: I’m fucked if I know what we did.

CIA Officer: Yes, sir, it’s, uh, hard to say

CIA Superior: Jesus Fucking Christ.

32 Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2014 10:48:29am

re: #26 Gus

They control Hollywood.

//Gary Oldman

And Marlon Brando. He said it pretty much outright many years ago in an interview on Larry King. Sadly, it’s a common belief that TEH JUICE! control the media. I’ve heard it here, from otherwise educated people. My ex-wife was one of them, and when she would go off on one of her little anti-Semitic tangents, I’d usually just look at her like she’d lost her damned mind.

She really didn’t like that.

33 Gus  Jun 27, 2014 10:48:54am

re: #29 CuriousLurker

I was just thinking the same thing: NWO > Bilderberg group/bankers > Mel Gibson > Gary Oldman > The Juice

FTFY //

34 Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2014 10:50:18am

re: #29 CuriousLurker

I was just thinking the same thing: NWO > Bilderberg group/bankers > The Juice

Bilderberg, Trilateral Commission, one and all…..I think most of this comes down to us nowadays from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

The play is the same…..only the names of the actors have changed.

35 Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2014 10:54:55am
36 Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2014 10:55:05am

re: #27 Kragar

[Embedded content]

This is from Tim Murray’s website, I shit you not.

The election for U.S. House for Oklahoma’s 3rd District will be contested by the Candidate, Timothy Ray Murray. I will be stating that his votes are switched with Rep. Lucas votes, because it is widely known Rep. Frank D. Lucas is no longer alive and has been displayed by a look alike. Rep. Lucas’ look alike was depicted as sentenced on a white stage in southern Ukraine on or about
Jan. 11, 2011.

This is a situation similar to the Senators’ from Kentucky situation in the 2012 election. I am contesting that this matter has happen since his election was blocked, because of the U.S. Defense Department’s use of Mr. Murray’s DNA. To my knowledge, the U.S. Defense Department has not released to the public that information, as it is their confidential information about many people. Congress is likely wanting me to state that all my DNA used will not result in benefits to people I have never had relations with of a family nature. I have been bound to protect that information unless it causes harm to The People.

The contest of election and or petition will be correctly filed with county election boards and with federal offices. I, Hon. Mr. Timothy Ray Murray, fully meet all Constitutional, Federal and Oklahoma requirements for election and for holding Office if the voters’ results show that is the case.

37 lawhawk  Jun 27, 2014 10:55:15am

re: #20 Gus

Just when the GOP can’t attract any more batcrap crazy candidates, they reveal that they’ve got an endless supply of even more crazy candidates waiting in the wings.

That’s right, the new crop makes Michele Bachmann, Ben Carson, and the rest of the 2012 crop seem grounded in comparison.

38 BeachDem  Jun 27, 2014 10:55:25am

re: #31 Bulworth

I love that movie so much. And I laugh myself silly every time you quote the closing scene. THANKS!

39 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 10:56:42am

re:
#38

Thanks, seems so applicable these days

40 wrenchwench  Jun 27, 2014 10:57:34am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

They let people leave tcot?

41 Dr. Matt  Jun 27, 2014 10:57:48am

re: #37 lawhawk

Ugh. And this clearly mentally unstable RWNJ likely owns a large cache of weapons.

42 Lidane  Jun 27, 2014 11:00:46am

ROFL!

I can give them three reasons why people think Perry is a gaffe machine. You know, he’s a Republican, he’s an idiot, and I can’t remember the third one.

43 Bulworth  Jun 27, 2014 11:04:30am

From the Salon link in Charles post:

Skousen laid low for much of the ’60s. But he reemerged at the end of the decade peddling a new and improved conspiracy that merged left with right: the global capitalist mega-plot of the “dynastic rich.” Families like the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds, Skousen now believed, used left forces — from Ho Chi Minh to the American civil rights movement — to serve their own power.

The Rothschilds!!!!!!11

44 Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 27, 2014 11:31:53am

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

This is from Tim Murray’s website, I shit you not.

This is a situation similar to the Senators’ from Kentucky situation in the 2012 election.

Is he really talking about Rand Paul????????

45 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Jun 27, 2014 12:07:05pm

Didn’t Romney also love Skousen?

46 BlueSpotinAL  Jun 27, 2014 1:02:48pm

“And let me remind you again that Dr. Ben Carson is a rising star in the conservative movement, primarily because he is perceived as having “bravely” spoken conservative truths with the evil Marxist Fascist Maoist Anti-Christ Secretly Muslim Secretly Gay Kenyan with Totalitarian Cravings President Barack Hussein Obama.”
while Blah.
To prove that they are not racist, just against Obama.
Really.

47 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 1:47:36pm

re: #45 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

Didn’t Romney also love Skousen?

He introduced Glenn Beck at a fundraiser held at George Wythe University in Utah, which was founded by Skousen followers.

littlegreenfootballs.com

48 thecommodore  Jun 27, 2014 1:50:33pm

re: #46 BlueSpotinAL

“And let me remind you again that Dr. Ben Carson is a rising star in the conservative movement, primarily because he is perceived as having “bravely” spoken conservative truths with the evil Marxist Fascist Maoist Anti-Christ Secretly Muslim Secretly Gay Kenyan with Totalitarian Cravings President Barack Hussein Obama.”
while Blah.
To prove that they are not racist, just against Obama.
Really.

You’re just afraid of black conservatives.

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