Overnight Tiny Desk Concert: Laura Marling

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In this performance at the NPR Music offices, two pieces from Laura Marling’s newest record, 2011’s A Creature I Don’t Know, bookend a gorgeous new song called “Once.” She’d never even recorded “Once,” let alone released it, so consider this performance a premiere of sorts.

Set List:

“Don’t Ask Me Why”
“Once”
“Sophia”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 27, 2016 • 9:38:46pm

Yes, I am still alive…..

Well, now that almost all the dust has settled at the new Fruit Bat cave up here in Michigan, my contractor horror story for the old cave is really one for the books. About a week ago I did a hit-and-run post and showed you all just how good a ‘professional’ install was. well, it got better…

Here’s the whole start: I hired a contractor referred by the plumber to do some work on getting the old cave up for sale. I wanted some laminate that I had purchased (58 boxes of 20 sq ft) installed into all the two bedrooms and the informal dining area, get some new vinyl in the kitchen and bathroom and new carpeting on the stairs, and paint the place. The initial quote was $12,400. So I asked what would the cost be without the painting, and that whacked $4,000, bringing it down to $8,400. Still a little steep (especially since I was supplying the laminate), but I just wanted this done and over with. So after some timing issues and trying to get as much junk cleared out as I could (which I failed miserably at), I left before he started the work. A few days after I arrived at the new cave, the contractor called me and said that most of the laminate was bad and that he only had enough material to do the informal dining room, and he asked me where he could find any more material. Since I had bought it at close-out, none could be had, so I asked him how much it would cost to carpet the two bedrooms-so that tacked on another $1050. So I gave him the go-ahead, he ordered the material and got the wor done. My realtor went over and called me and said everything looked fone, so I paid the balance due on my credit card. Since my realtor also said that I still had a lot of stuff to get rid of she could hire a waste removal company to come out, but it would be expensive. So I decided to do a quick weekend trip back to the old cave and see firsthand what the work was and to go through the remaining junk to see if I missed anything of value.

Best decision I could have possibly made.

The carpet on the stairs, the new vinyl in the bathroom and kitchen were fine. The laminate install, OTOH….

First was the original transition where the flooring folks left some door mountng bracket in place, breaking the transition while putting the actual folding door bracket a few inches away:

Botch Job 1: Seriously, WTF?

Now comes the transition between the informal dining area and the living room. Instead of one seamless transition, it appears that they just slapped two pieces together:

Notice the un-seemless connection up top

Now I know that there are some length limitations to how ling transition pieces are, but this really doesn’t pass the smell test by me.

Then comes my favorite WTF: there’s a huge gap between the laminate and the backdise of the kitchen cabinets:

A gap….really? This is a professional install?

Geez, ya think they’d at least put a quarter-round to hide that. But that’s the kicker-there’s NO quarter-round’s anywhere. That’s rather odd-my Mother’s palce has it, my old townhome had it on my entryway which was wood….but none here?

Now comes the coup de grace. As I was sorting through the junk (which I was able to recover enough stuff to make covering the cost the ticket worth it alone) I noticed that I still had over 30 boxes of unopened laminate still sitting upstairs. Mind you, the contractor told me he did not have enough material to complete the other rooms, yet here are over 30 boxes of unopened, unexamined laminate sitting upstairs.

Needless to say, I was not amused.

So after I called 1-800-GOT-JUNK to get rid of the ripped up carpeting/vinyl and the stuff I really wasn’t going to keep (the contractor was supposed to do that but he didn’t; when I texted him on Saturday when the debris was going to be removed he said he would do it Monday) I began to number each box of laminate and take a picture of it as I laid it out back down into the garage. All told I would up with 35 boxes of unopened boxes. I also took a picture of what appeared to be a good plank of laminate vs. a bad plank, so I have a reference point. Now for sure at least 10 boxes were definitely bad, so that would have cut the box inventory down to 48. I opened a few of the boxes and compared the material, and yep-they be good. So once I finished bagging up some remaining trash bags and stashing them in the garage, I disconnected the garage door remote, denying the contractor access to my place-he is now forced to deal with my realtor.

So now he calls me Monday morning, wondering why he can’t get into my place to fix the one bad transition that I snapped a picture of and sent it to him. Needless to say, I told him in no uncertain terms that I was not at all happy. He tried to BS/excuse his way out of the laminate situation, but I was having none of it at all (Why weren’t all the boxes opened? You knew all the material was damaged by looking at unopened boxes?) So I said: “What are you going to do to make me happy?” Realizing he was not in a good position, he said: “What do I have to do?” So I told him to replace the carpeting in the living room with the same material that’s in the other bedrooms and the stairwell in addition to fixing the gap and that broken transition.

He agreed-although he said his flooring guy wasn’t happy (yeah, right-more like, he was busted.)

And my realtor found me a painter for less than half what the contractor wanted. So I will probably be making one last trip to fix some last minor details (install USB wall sockets-you know the millenials will eat that shit up) and I should be on the market shortly thereafter.

In the meanwhile, Ozzie seems to enjoy his cat tree in the new cave:

Hey-I can look and see two rooms! Thanks, you hairless ape!

So all in all, things are looking up in the new homestead. Mother is happy, I’m tired (and lost 20 lbs in the process) but happy as well.

So I should be back to normal participartion in another day or so. Keep vigilant!

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Lidane  Nov 27, 2016 • 10:06:45pm

Rogue One tickets acquired. Now I go to bed. G’night Lizards!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 27, 2016 • 10:14:31pm

re: #1 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yet another reason why I enjoy being a renter.

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sagehen  Nov 27, 2016 • 11:02:18pm

I went looking for paranoia quotes, and found something related that seems to apply:

“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.”
― Thomas Pynchon, Gravity’s Rainbow

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 27, 2016 • 11:22:42pm

I get so tired of the “Share if you did X as a kid and survived!”, because the obvious conclusion they want you to draw is that X is perfectly safe and we’re just pussies to either ban X or require some safety device.

It reminds me of something I’ve been thinking recently regarding the dumbing down of America, and the anti-intellectual strain that Azimov so eloquently described. Anti-intellectual types like to speak of ‘common sense’, as if you don’t need anything more to know what is and isn’t true. A simple demonstration occurred to me:

“Common sense”: My grandfather smoked for 70 years. He died at 95 when a truck hit him. If smoking caused lung cancer, he’d have been dead long since!

Actual sense: Smokers are 20 times more likely to contract lung cancer than nonsmokers. 85% of lung cancer patients are smokers. Thus, smoking causes lung cancer.

“Common sense” depends on anecdote and personal incredulity. Actual sense depends on data. Nobody wants their doctor to depend on anecdote to treat them when they’re sick - My pappy had the cancer, and he ate these mushrooms and drank whiskey, and he was cured! No, you want your doctor to base your treatment on DATA - People with your kind of cancer at your stage had a 90% 5-year disease-free survival rate following this regimen, versus 40% if untreated.

So, why do so many people want to chuck data out - Measurements from temperature monitoring stations all over the earth are showing a rise in surface temperatures consistent with predictions in climate models based on the increase in atmospheric CO2 - and depend on anecdote - It was cold this morning!?

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2016 • 11:51:34pm

Oy.

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teleskiguy  Nov 27, 2016 • 11:54:03pm

One can hope for some kind of mutiny, I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:01:49am

re: #7 teleskiguy

One can hope for some kind of mutiny, I guess.

I really wonder how many smart young and mid-level people are going to end up leaving the IC/State/DoD because of Trump.

Yes and no. Means that the ones who remain will be the incompetent careerists who will then hopscotch their way to leadership positions in the organization…

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Alyosha  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:03:37am
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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:19:18am

re: #8 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes and no. Means that the ones who remain will be the incompetent careerists who will then hopscotch their way to leadership positions in the organization…

Or incompetents brought in from outside.

I am left with the admonishment I received a couple weeks ago from several people here about being the only elected Democrat in a 90,000 sq mile area, and no assistance from the party.

Those in the State Department or the Department of Defense might wish to consider country over the dingbat minority president, unless specifically ordered to do illegal things. We will need decent people in those positions in times to come.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:25:36am

I don’t have a cell phone, but for those with Apple or Android devices there is this application:

itunes.apple.com

“Boycott Trump”

Put out by an organisation calling itself the Democratic Coalition against Trump, the application lists all directly-owned Trump businesses, as well as business that support Mr. Trump.

We all know how Trump Towers and Trump Steaks are connected to Trump, but did you know Nike, MillerCoors, Johnson & Johnson, Gucci, and many other major companies can all be directly linked to him as well? Find out how!

As usual with any application downloaded from the uber-secure iStore, make sure you are satisfied that it is safe first.

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:27:31am

It’s that time again… an opening salvo:

Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe And Holly

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:28:04am

re: #12 freetoken

It’s that time again… an opening salvo:

Starting after Thanksgiving is fair play.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:31:49am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Starting after Thanksgiving is fair play.

I think Valentine’s Day music is appropriate to encroach on Christmas. Start the patriotic marches in April for Independence Day.

My understanding of the Roman Catholic Church is they do not start with Christmas hymns until Christmas Day. Prior to that, they have Advent hymns.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:34:54am

Presumably, that application in the iTunes store is similar to the “Flush Rush” campaign, except the people who organised Flush Rush didn’t just limit themselves to cell phone owners. Computer owners who live in areas with no cell service could participate as well.

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:37:08am

67 years ago, a crassly commercial Christmas tune intended to sell a fashionable new electronic device:

1949 RCA sales promo: Mindy Carson - I Want A Television Christmas (restored)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:37:50am

re: #14 Anymouse

I think Valentine’s Day music is appropriate to encroach on Christmas. Start the patriotic marches in April for Independence Day.

My understanding of the Roman Catholic Church is they do not start with Christmas hymns until Christmas Day. Prior to that, they have Advent hymns.

Germans see Advent as the start of the Christmas Season, although some grocery stores have been carrying ginger bread and Christmas candy since late October.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:44:57am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germans see Advent as the start of the Christmas Season, although some grocery stores have been carrying ginger bread and Christmas candy since late October.

I can understand craft stores and such carrying Christmas stuff in July, it takes time to do those sorts of things.

As for Christmas music before Thanksgiving, I’d as soon take a chain saw to my radio.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:46:53am

One Million Hundred Moms is upset at a Zales advert that features two women in wedding dresses.

huffingtonpost.com

I’ll bet they supported Donald Trump for President though - Christian faux outrage is never-ending.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:48:34am

re: #18 Anymouse

And a proper British Christmas pudding has to be made in October so that it can sit for at least nine weeks before serving.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:06:51am

I am not much of an Advent/Christmas music fan (duh), though a bunch of it is in my hammered dulcimer repertoire (you go with the music requested, not the music you wish they requested, Donald Rumsfeld maybe).

If I had to pick one song, mine would be Veni Veni Emmanuel (O Come O Come Emmanuel). It is a hauntingly beautiful song.

L’Accorche-Choeur, Ensemble vocal Fribourg

(In Latin)

Veni Veni Emmanuel

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freetoken  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:11:54am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:14:44am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germans see Advent as the start of the Christmas Season, although some grocery stores have been carrying ginger bread and Christmas candy since late October.

Same here in the Czech Republic; even though many stores ran “Black Friday” sales events, the Christmas season officially began yesterday, the first Sunday of Advent.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:17:39am

re: #22 freetoken

I’ll have to pass that along to my wife, LOL.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:19:02am

theonion.com

It has been reported that President Obama is trying to move swiftly to protect Federal parklands and monuments before the incoming minority administration takes power.

I presume we are going to see him ramp up the government’s plan to make my hometown the repository of all the nation’s landmarks, as reported in The Onion.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:27:47am

re: #21 Anymouse

I am not much of an Advent/Christmas music fan (duh), though a bunch of it is in my hammered dulcimer repertoire (you go with the music requested, not the music you wish they requested, Donald Rumsfeld maybe).

If I had to pick one song, mine would be Veni Veni Emmanuel (O Come O Come Emmanuel). It is a hauntingly beautiful song.

(In Latin)

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Video

It’s a plainchant in a minor key. (Probably Aeolian mode originally, I guess) That adds to the haunting feel.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:30:56am

re: #26 wheat-dogg

It’s a plainchant in a minor key. (Probably Aeolian mode originally, I guess) That adds to the haunting feel.

It sounds pretty haunting played on the hammered dulcimer even with no vocals. When my ex-wife and I performed in the Southeast over the holiday season, she would sing the song (she is trained in operatic singing). More than once I would see a person emotionally moved to tears or joy (or both).

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:35:04am
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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:37:40am

re: #27 Anymouse

It sounds pretty haunting played on the hammered dulcimer even with no vocals. When my ex-wife and I performed in the Southeast over the holiday season, she would sing the song (she is trained in operatic singing). More than once I would see a person emotionally moved to tears or joy (or both).

It seems I was right about Aeolian mode. (Search for Veni to find the appropriate section.)
campin.me.uk

It’s a very old melody. Charlemagne probably heard it.

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:41:48am

re: #29 wheat-dogg

It seems I was right about Aeolian mode. (Search for Veni to find the appropriate section.)
campin.me.uk

It’s a very old melody. Charlemagne probably heard it.

I understand it is a XII Century hymn.

It’s 3:39 in Mythical Mountain Time Zone, who the hell is hunting with a firearm at this time of night by the river? I don’t think that’s legal.

I suppose I could call the sheriff, but the office is sixteen miles away. Good luck catching whoever’s shooting, plus I don’t think I would want to be slogging around the North Platte River with my pantlegs hiked up looking for someone with a shotgun.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:43:46am

re: #30 Anymouse

I understand it is a XII hymn.

Probably older, maybe VIIIth

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:44:43am

re: #31 wheat-dogg

Probably older, maybe VIIIth

The hammered dulcimer is tuned (if you play straight up a bridge without crossing over) to D Dorian. (Crossing bridges gives you the normal scale.)

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:49:36am

re: #32 Anymouse

The hammered dulcimer is tuned (if you play straight up a bridge without crossing over) to D Dorian. (Crossing bridges gives you the normal scale.)

Is your XII referring to century, or something else?

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:52:53am

Well, I’m going to hit the hay (well, memory-foam mattress hay anyway). Good night (morning) youse guys.

If Mr. Trump thinks the election is fixed due to the precincts in Philadelphia that went overwhelmingly for Mrs. Clinton, maybe we should have an audit of my county (which went about 98% Trump). Could be something hinky here as well.

My wife tells me we are going to Sacramento (the one in California) right after the December village board meeting.

That’s the thing about these vacation trips, she announces ‘em, I say “Okay, honey.” This summer it was Churchill, Manitoba and a drive around the Great Lakes. Last summer it was Germany and Poland. (I was going to a conference in Germany so she insisted on throwing Poland in for good measure since we’d already be in the area.)

We need to win the lotto or something. I’m ahead since I moved here on tickets bought v tickets redeemed for prizes, but not by more than a couple hundred dollars. We need a killing in the Powerball or something. (Maybe that would be enough money to get a plumber to come out sixty miles to fix our bathroom sink.)

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Anymouse  Nov 28, 2016 • 2:58:14am

re: #33 wheat-dogg

Is your XII referring to century, or something else?

Century. I fixed it after I saw I left that word out. Oopsy.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 3:06:44am

re: #35 Anymouse

Century. I fixed it after I saw I left that word out. Oopsy.

I thought it might have been arcane hammered dulcimer thing. BTW, China has a hammered dulcimer-like instrument called the yangqin.
en.wikipedia.org

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Lupin  Nov 28, 2016 • 3:07:06am

Favorite in 2017 French presidential election François Fillon nicknamed the “Anti-Trump” by several media:

L’express

RTBF

IN ENGLISH

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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 3:08:57am

re: #37 Lupin

Favorite in 2017 French presidential election François Fillon nicknamed the “Anti-Trump” by several media:

L’express

RTBF

IN ENGLISH

Isn’t he the guy who says Russia is not a threat to eastern Europe or the EU?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:20:15am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:20:40am

Many of his bogus promises contradict other bogus promises.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:23:12am

re: #39 The Vicious Babushka

In Donald Trump’s final days on the campaign trail, he promised his supporters that “every dream you ever dreamed for your country” will come true if he becomes president — one of dozens of sweeping promises he made and is now expected to fulfill.

Fake news

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:27:46am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Donald Trump’s final days on the campaign trail, he promised his supporters that “every dream you ever dreamed for your country” will come true if he becomes president — one of dozens of sweeping promises he made and is now expected to fulfill.

Fake news

Biggest con ever!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:30:17am

Ted Cruz warns that Trump supporters will fill the streets with pitchforks if he reneges on his promises. Good. Send out the National Guard.

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:34:38am

Flickr


Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:35:21am

Gumbo?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:38:47am

So, this popped up in the Strange Animals’ feed. Super awesome skull.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:44:36am
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wheat-dogg  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:45:19am

I watched the preview of Incorporated, the new SyFy/Space channel show. Looks promising, though it’s relying on the old dystopian trope of haves and have-nots separated by a one-way porous border. Green Zone people can enter the Red Zone, but not vice versa.

Nice touch: Canada is dealing with refugees from the USA in 2074. I don’t think they will wait that long, frankly.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 5:55:24am

It’s only been two and a half weeks since the 2016 election, and Democrats are still hotly debating what went wrong. Could a different platform or messaging strategy have helped lead Hillary Clinton to victory? Would, perhaps, a more economically populist candidate have performed better? These questions will be picked over for years and are probably impossible to settle conclusively.

But as a first pass, it’s at least worth noting how Clinton performed compared with other Democratic candidates on the ballot with her — for instance, the party’s Senate candidates. Here’s how much their margins were better or worse than Clinton’s margin, according to the latest vote totals…

Interestingly enough, in two of those crucial Midwestern states that flipped to Trump, Democratic Senate candidates campaigned on economically populist platforms — but they did notably worse than Hillary Clinton. Russ Feingold underperformed Clinton by 2.4 points in Wisconsin, and Ted Strickland underperformed her by 12.8 points in Ohio. Feingold amassed a populist record of challenging big money and special interests when he was in the Senate, and Strickland harshly condemned trade deals during his campaign against Rob Portman (who served as George W. Bush’s US trade representative).

Meanwhile, the two Democratic Senate candidates in competitive races who outperformed Clinton the most both self-consciously presented a moderate image rather than running as liberal firebrands.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:09:03am

re: #41 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In Donald Trump’s final days on the campaign trail, he promised his supporters that “every dream you ever dreamed for your country” will come true if he becomes president — one of dozens of sweeping promises he made and is now expected to fulfill.

Fake news

The perfect promise: completely unfalsifiable.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:11:51am

re: #19 Anymouse

One Million Hundred Moms is upset at a Zales advert that features two women in wedding dresses.

huffingtonpost.com

I’ll bet they supported Donald Trump for President though - Christian faux outrage is never-ending.

Tens of Moms, plus a few men from the family Wildmon.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:19:21am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area after a long weekend. Trump’s still up to his old tricks, and the media keeps going for them without so much as a whimper. Trump’s latest craziness is that he thinks there were millions of people who voted illegally.

Really? Millions? What’s your proof? Show us what you know.

And if there were indeed millions who voted illegally, then you wont mind if we do a recount of all the states won, just to make sure that the votes were proper. Because to do otherwise would be wrong?

Oh, you mean that millions of people who voted against you were illegal. That’s really what he was getting at - not that the votes themselves were illegal. He thinks people who oppose him are the enemy and should be dealt with accordingly. That’s not how the nation works, but that’s how it’s working with him in charge. And the GOP will do nothing to stop him - or reign him in. Why would they? They’re getting their wish list of bad crazy extremism fulfilled, so they’ll go along with all this too.

Just overlook all the conflicts of interests, that he broke the embargo to try and do business in Cuba, and he still hasn’t addressed how he’s separating his business interests from his presidency, especially with his kids central to his inner circle of advisers.

And don’t get me started with his advisers, who are hardly experts on policy, but rather push an extremist view and will rubber stamp his own views. His nominees (and leaks of who he might nominate) are hardly the best in the business of whatever role they’re seeking. Carson has no housing experience, and yet Trump thinks he’s right for HUD. Flynn was fired from his role at the Pentagon, but Trump thinks he’s fine even though Flynn broke rules on handling classified info as well.

On and on it goes. Unqualified, poorly qualified, and the only thing that binds them together is an extremist view meshing with Trump’s.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:21:59am
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:26:58am
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BlueGrl21  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:28:40am

The husband walked in last night and informed me we now have subscriptions to the NYT and WaPo and we’d given a chunk o’ change to the ACLU. Keep in mind I am married to a man who has raised Scottish frugality to an art form.

“So, you are apparently past your lay on the couch in sweats and watch sporting events while muttering “all is lost, this country is just too goddamn stupid” phase?”

“Yes. And you’re not funny.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:29:17am

But, tRump knows that there is fraud in his tax returns (see, tRump Foundation) and doesn’t care. If he can stall of litigate his way out of it, it’s ‘lawful’ and you are all suckers. Etc.

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jeffreyw  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:29:23am

re: #45 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Gumbo?

Gumbo.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:33:09am

re: #55 BlueGrl21

The husband walked in last night and informed me we now have subscriptions to the NYT and WaPo and we’d given a chunk o’ change to the ACLU. Keep in mind I am married to a man who has raised Scottish frugality to an art form.

“So, you are apparently past your lay on the couch in sweats and watch sporting events while muttering “all is lost, this country is just too goddamn stupid” phase?”

“Yes. And you’re not funny.”

Right now, I am keeping quiet about it all, just making note of Trump’s choices for cabinet posts and other positions and waiting for the really ugly part to start in January.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:35:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:38:54am

re: #59 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Money quote: Sessions called inclusion of disabled students “the single most irritating problem for teachers throughout America today.”

Eugenics in person

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:39:38am

re: #59 Myron Falwell (no relation)

That ASAN article has an excellent synopsis of why Sessions would be a terrifying AG.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:42:54am

re: #55 BlueGrl21

The husband walked in last night and informed me we now have subscriptions to the NYT and WaPo and we’d given a chunk o’ change to the ACLU. Keep in mind I am married to a man who has raised Scottish frugality to an art form.

“So, you are apparently past your lay on the couch in sweats and watch sporting events while muttering “all is lost, this country is just too goddamn stupid” phase?”

“Yes. And you’re not funny.”

Since Real Journamalism(tm) is part of your “worth spending on”, suggest donations to Pro Publica and Mother Jones. PP has no subscriptions, MJ’s subscriptions barely cover routine overhead — both of them do super-expensive serious in-depth investigative work when the budget allows.

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Skip Intro  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:49:27am

Conway calls MSNBC report ‘sexist’

“Donald Trump’s top aide, Kellyanne Conway, on Monday slammed an MSNBC report that said the president-elect was “furious” over comments she made Sunday about Mitt Romney.

Conway called the reporting “sexist” and said she could have any job she wants, according to MSNBC.

Top aides to Trump said they were “baffled” over Conway’s comments about Romney, MSNBC reported earlier Monday. A source said her comments escalate concerns that Conway is “pushing her own agenda” instead of driving Trump’s message.

Incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus and incoming chief strategist Stephen Bannon are reportedly becoming frustrated that Conway is not becoming a team player.

Conway on Sunday blasted Romney, a possible pick for secretary of State, for comments he made about Trump during the presidential campaign. She also questioned if Romney would be loyal.”

Every fucking day it goes on.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:51:20am

I can confirm that it is indeed Monday morning…
I can be sure of this because I just brewed up approximately seven cups of my planned ten plus pot of coffee, without the carafe placed in the coffee machine…

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:51:32am

re: #63 Skip Intro

Psst, Kelly. When Sessions becomes AG, he’s planning on taking over speaking for Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:52:28am

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

I can confirm that it is indeed Monday morning…
I can be sure of this because I just brewed up approximately seven cups of my planned ten plus pot of coffee, without the carafe placed in the coffee machine…

just another manic monday

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:53:15am

re: #52 lawhawk

he still hasn’t addressed how he’s separating his business interests from his presidency, especially with his kids central to his inner circle of advisers.

Oh but he HAS addressed it: he will not be separating his business interests from the Presidency. Au contraire, he will use his position as POTUS to make MOAR MONEYS for his businesses.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:54:59am

Went up to Trenton, NJ, for Thanksgiving to see the family, which consists of my two step-brothers and step-sister, and their families. They rented a church basement for the day, which was a good move, lots of room to wander around, spread out. Later I drove by the old house. The street has a few more boarded-up houses, the bar on the corner burned down at some point and is now a blackened husk. Area could pass for a war-zone. Was no picnic when I lived there, but continues to decline.

Got me some classic Trenton, NJ pizza, though, on Black Friday.

Back in the office today, a full work week ahead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:55:35am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Oh but he HAS addressed it: he will not be separating his business interests from the Presidency. Au contraire, he will use his position as POTUS to make MOAR MONEYS for his businesses.

I cannot imagine that this will not be a problem.

But then I realized that for the people he appoints, the more time Trump is dealing with scandals and crises, the less time he has to govern and the more freedom of action his subordinates will enjoy.

So yeah, we are looking really fucked coming and going.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:56:31am

re: #63 Skip Intro

Conway calls MSNBC report ‘sexist’

“Donald Trump’s top aide, Kellyanne Conway, on Monday slammed an MSNBC report that said the president-elect was “furious” over comments she made Sunday about Mitt Romney.

Conway called the reporting “sexist” and said she could have any job she wants, according to MSNBC.

Whut? Is she calling ‘top aide,’ sexist? Is anyone on tRump team sane? Yes, that is rhetorical.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:56:38am

re: #58 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Right now, I am keeping quiet about it all, just making note of Trump’s choices for cabinet posts and other positions and waiting for the really ugly part to start in January.

I am building up my energy so I can dive into hopeless causes and keep my humor quotient high. Texas Liberals are so used to this. It’s not about winning so many times, it’s about showing people we exist…and pulling others in who may never have thought of participating in the political process.

Where else can we mock our fellow Texans by holding a Million Bubba March?

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:57:09am

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Oh but he HAS addressed it: he will not be separating his business interests from the Presidency. Au contraire, he will use his position as POTUS to make MOAR MONEYS for his businesses.

Hillary was Crooked had crony capitalism corruption Clinton Foundation! Trump is so sincere. Tells it like it is. Perfectly fine to make moneys while presidenting. True America. Why u no like successful people jealous.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:58:16am

re: #49 Belafon

Another day, another sign that Bernie could not have done any better than Hillary did, and probably would have done even worse. The whole populist, “hang the bankers from lampposts!” rhetoric does not work when people have jobs, have money, and are not worried about how they’re going to make their mortgage payments.

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Skip Intro  Nov 28, 2016 • 6:59:34am

They really hate you, Willard, they really do.

edition.cnn.com … index.html

Trump ally: Romney a ‘self-serving egomaniac’
By David Wright
Updated 1405 GMT (2205 HKT) November 28, 2016

(CNN)New York Rep. Chris Collins on Monday criticized Mitt Romney, a possible Secretary of State nominee in the new administration, calling him a “self-serving egomaniac.”

“What do I know about Mitt Romney? I know that he’s a self-serving egomaniac who puts himself first, who has a chip on his shoulder, and thinks that he should be president of the United States,” Collins, a Donald Trump backer, told host Chris Cuomo on “New Day.”

“There’s no love lost between me and Mitt Romney,” Collins added.

The New York Republican — the first member of the House of Representatives to endorse Trump during the primary — said he respects the president’s prerogative but wouldn’t select Romney if it were up to him.

“I’m going to leave it up to President-elect Trump to pick the people in his Cabinet that he thinks can serve in his administration,” Collins said. “Would I choose him? No. But if President-elect Trump does, I will certainly support that decision.”

He explained his concern that Romney “is a bit of a lone wolf and might not take the advice or the direction of President-elect Trump,” and added that “I have not seen in Mitt Romney the personality traits of someone who will take his direction.”

edition.cnn.com … index.html

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:01:52am

re: #64 FormerDirtDart

I can confirm that it is indeed Monday morning…
I can be sure of this because I just brewed up approximately seven cups of my planned ten plus pot of coffee, without the carafe placed in the coffee machine…

Because you needed coffee in order to make coffee. Yeah, I’ve been there too.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:01:55am
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Timothy Watson  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:02:07am

re: #74 Skip Intro

Projection level: Epic

Hey folks, you wanted the WWE president instead of the evil “disciplined” Hillary team.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:02:38am

re: #63 Skip Intro

Conway calls MSNBC report ‘sexist’

“Donald Trump’s top aide, Kellyanne Conway, on Monday slammed an MSNBC report that said the president-elect was “furious” over comments she made Sunday about Mitt Romney.

Conway called the reporting “sexist” and said she could have any job she wants, according to MSNBC.

Top aides to Trump said they were “baffled” over Conway’s comments about Romney, MSNBC reported earlier Monday. A source said her comments escalate concerns that Conway is “pushing her own agenda” instead of driving Trump’s message.

Incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus and incoming chief strategist Stephen Bannon are reportedly becoming frustrated that Conway is not becoming a team player.

Conway on Sunday blasted Romney, a possible pick for secretary of State, for comments he made about Trump during the presidential campaign. She also questioned if Romney would be loyal.”

Every fucking day it goes on.

One the hallmarks of authoritarian regimes is that the more power that is concentrated at the top, the more ambitious the underlings get. Name a regime across the ages and you’ll see infighting, backstabbing (sometimes literally), and numerous efforts by the leader’s inner circle to position themselves to attain even greater power. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kellyanne is secretly bitter that Bannon is getting the top gig and is trying to sabotage his schemes.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:02:43am

re: #74 Skip Intro

(CNN)New York Rep. Chris Collins on Monday criticized Mitt Romney, a possible Secretary of State nominee in the new administration, calling him a “self-serving egomaniac.”

Romney…a “self-serving egomaniac”.

It’s a bit early on Monday to try to wrangle with the lack of awareness displayed in this comment by a Trumpster congresscritter.

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mmmirele  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:06:54am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Eugenics in person

I was informed by one of the people who hate-listen to the guy I picket on Sunday that he apparently went off approvingly on eugenics and not allowing some people to marry in yesterday’s sermon. The person is shopping the transcript to various news sources right now.

People are feeling very brave these days, saying stuff they’d never have said before.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:10:24am

re: #63 Skip Intro

Conway calls MSNBC report ‘sexist’

“Donald Trump’s top aide, Kellyanne Conway, on Monday slammed an MSNBC report that said the president-elect was “furious” over comments she made Sunday about Mitt Romney.

Conway called the reporting “sexist” and said she could have any job she wants, according to MSNBC.

Top aides to Trump said they were “baffled” over Conway’s comments about Romney, MSNBC reported earlier Monday. A source said her comments escalate concerns that Conway is “pushing her own agenda” instead of driving Trump’s message.

Incoming chief of staff Reince Priebus and incoming chief strategist Stephen Bannon are reportedly becoming frustrated that Conway is not becoming a team player.

Conway on Sunday blasted Romney, a possible pick for secretary of State, for comments he made about Trump during the presidential campaign. She also questioned if Romney would be loyal.”

Every fucking day it goes on.

I’m getting pretty sick of Conway at this point. She just doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up.

And at this point, she’s probably got a standing invite to go on whatever news show she wants.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:12:22am

Monday in “Merica

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:12:57am

re: #80 mmmirele

I was informed by one of the people who hate-listen to the guy I picket on Sunday that he apparently went off approvingly on eugenics and not allowing some people to marry in yesterday’s sermon. The person is shopping the transcript to various news sources right now.

People are feeling very brave these days, saying stuff they’d never have said before.

There are many on the right who endorse eugenics (Anymouse has described law about epileptics being sterilized and other groups have had similar done) and the discussion (normalization, again) is being treated as appropriate to discuss. It’s just a discussion, you lefties want to suppress free expression and discussion.

It is not ok to even start down that road of stupid. Eugenics has been discredited many times and it keeps rearing it’s ugly and tainted head.

ed-oops, wrong formatting button clicked, now fixed.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:13:59am

So, I got to the movies for the first time in months this past weekend. Saw Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them and Doctor Strange.

Both are great popcorn flicks, but both also had some deeper meanings attached to them. Good stories have a way to work in fun and meanings into them, which makes them engaging. Both movies do well in setting up the table for sequels or MCU next steps, respectively.

I’d say that the casting in both was good with one notable exception in both movies. Spoilers behind the spoiler tag:

In Fantastic Beasts, there’s no reason to have Grindelwald be Johnny Depp. Poor casting IMO, and they could have done so much more with Colin Farrell, even if he was done in prosthetics. It almost seems like stunt casting and Depp’s just doing the motions here (for a few seconds of screen time mind you).

The other casting in Fantastic Beasts was great, and the comedic bits were engaging and one can argue that the women - Queenie and Tina were more important to the story than Newt. Dan Fogler was great as Kowalski and one can imagine seeing the magic through his eyes.

The scenes with the Niffler stealing shiny stuff (jewels, money, etc.) were hilarious, and the humor definitely helps with what is likely to be a darker sequel, and we get glimpses into how much darker with the child abuse of Credence, along with how Graves treats him along the way as a pawn and plaything.

With Dr. Strange, the issue is with Tilde Swinton playing the Ancient One. She’s a fantastic actress, but the role was cast with an eye to the Chinese box office, and the comic on which the character was based didn’t seem to enter into it. If you’re not a comic fan, this didn’t bother you. If you knew the comics, then you might find it a bit jarring.

Oh, and stick around for the mid- and post-credits scenes.

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BlueGrl21  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:18:07am

re: #70 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Whut? Is she calling ‘top aide,’ sexist? Is anyone on tRump team sane? Yes, that is rhetorical.

I am expecting Byzantine palace politics out of Trump’s “team.” None of these people are team players, all have their own agendas, none are loyal to Trump and his “vision” because there is none. They don’t like him personally. They’re all paranoid and he is the most paranoid of all.

It will be a revolving door of hirings and firings and “senior staffers say,” and backstabbing and contradictory messages out of Trump Palace. It will be totally dysfunctional. Keep the popcorn supplies high because this part I will enjoy tremendously.

Talk about reality TV. It will be Big Brother, Survivor, The Apprentice, and Shark Tank rolled into one crazy show.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:23:28am

re: #85 BlueGrl21

It will be a revolving door of hirings and firings and “senior staffers say,” and backstabbing and contradictory messages out of Trump Palace. It will be totally dysfunctional. Keep the popcorn supplies high because this, I will enjoy tremendously.

I think the rationalizations of the revolving door by the media and his other followers and sycophants will by contortions that the greatest yogi never could never achieve. It will never be his fault, in fact, he will most likely be adulated for his ability to get rid of deadwood in his cabinet and other senior positions because they are trying to undermine his great vision…

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:25:51am

re: #85 BlueGrl21

Talk about reality TV. It will be Big Brother, Survivor, The Apprentice, and Shark Tank rolled into one crazy show.

Downside: These clowns will be driving foreign and domestic policy for the foreseeable future.

I’m still hoping for a totally out-of-left-field event to derail the Trump Train. I’m such a damned optimist sometimes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:27:40am

re: #87 makeitstop

Downside: These clowns will be driving foreign and domestic policy for the foreseeable future.

I’m still hoping for a totally out-of-left-field event to derail the Trump Train. I’m such a damned optimist sometimes.

If we could only guarantee that that train will not come barreling into a crowded station…

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:31:28am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:32:03am
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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:32:40am

re: #88 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we could only guarantee that that train will not come barreling into a crowded station…

Damage will be done no matter what happens.

I’ll take a little short-term damage if it means they won’t be able to break shit long-term. Eggs, omelettes, etc.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:38:08am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:39:46am

re: #76 The Vicious Babushka

Sure, that’ll totally help that pesky abortion problem.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:40:16am

HOLY. SHIT.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:40:50am

re: #92 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Oh please tell me the shooter/attacker isn’t a pissed off Football fan…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:41:43am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:44:00am

97.1 The Fan is streaming the audio of sister station 10TV right now.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:45:19am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh please tell me the shooter/attacker isn’t a pissed off Football fan…

This is a prime example of the right’s utter cognitive dissonance.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:47:31am

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh please tell me the shooter/attacker isn’t a pissed off Football fan…

I hope you forgot the // tag. 😳

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:47:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:52:26am

re: #99 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I hope you forgot the // tag. 😳

I didn’t. OSU lost to Michigan State in double overtime in their rivalry game this past weekend. There was a lot grumbling about the officials from the Michigan State side. Less than a 4 hour drive time between the campuses.

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Jenner7  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:54:11am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

Ohio State won.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:54:22am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

I didn’t. OSU lost to Michigan State in double overtime in their rivalry game this past weekend. There was a lot grumbling about the officials from the Michigan State side. Less than a 4 hour drive time between the campuses.

University of Michigan. This weekend was The Game between Michigan and OSU.

Michigan State played and lost to Penn State this weekend.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:55:12am

Damn…I’ve been busy and my cable TV is out this morning. So I was working along and went down to my kitchen to make some tea and flipped on ESPN radio and heard the reports something was going on down at OSU campus. Just turned on the TV using a digital antennae to get local news to see what is going on.

I guess with 50,000+ students and another 25,000+ staff etc., something like this was bound to happen at Ohio State some time.

Looks like the police are moving in on someone in a parking garage. OSU campus is like a freaking city as far as big tall buildings, parking garages and density. I hope they get this all stopped soon.

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Jayleia  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:55:32am

So, I saw on one of the news channels that Hair Furor would be meeting with David Petraeus today.

This is fine.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:57:05am

re: #105 Jayleia

So, I saw on one of the news channels that Hair Furor would be meeting with David Petraeus today.

This is fine.

Hair Furor is just going through his list of 6,907 possible candidates for SoS.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:57:28am

re: #105 Jayleia

So, I saw on one of the news channels that Hair Furor would be meeting with David Petraeus today.

This is fine.

A meeting of two people completely unqualified for any public office.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:57:44am

re: #102 Jenner7

Correct. I was going on the basis an angry Michigan fan could gone to OSU and attacked people there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:58:35am

re: #103 Sir John Barron

You’re right my bad. I get some of these Universities so confused sometimes.

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Jenner7  Nov 28, 2016 • 7:58:48am

re: #108 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh okay, my bad.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:03:33am

All this seems to be going on at Watts Hall, where Materials Science and Engineering is taught, etc. I’m thinking this may have something to do with students and teachers…not sports related in my uneducated opinion.

Just reporting one confirmed suspect is now dead. Sounds like that may be in a near by parking garage the swat team ran into.

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Jayleia  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:03:50am

re: #107 Timothy Watson

I remember back in the day, the anti-war people were calling Petraeus “Betray-us” because he wasn’t anti-war enough…its kinda funny that they called him correctly, but for the wrong reason.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:06:08am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Eugenics in person

This disabled, ex-Catholic, atheist, wants to cross himself…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:06:29am

re: #107 Timothy Watson

A meeting of two people completely unqualified for any public office.

Damn. Internets won already. Not even noon on the East Coast.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:07:25am

Damn, it looks like Columbus police has a lot of people and equipment on the scene.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:08:16am

re: #105 Jayleia

So, I saw on one of the news channels that Hair Furor would be meeting with David Petraeus today.

This is fine.

I has disappoint. I was so hoping for a rigorous, uncompromising email security policy in the tRumpf admin.

///

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:08:45am
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Jayleia  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:10:44am

re: #117 gocart mozart

You deserve all the downdings for such a horrible mental image…

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:11:32am

re: #118 Jayleia

I will wear them with pride.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:12:51am

re: #109 Eclectic Cyborg

You’re right my bad. I get some of these Universities so confused sometimes.

It’s partially why Ohio State is usually referred to colloquially as “The Ohio State University…” to eliminate any confusion with Ohio University in Athens.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:14:06am

Reporting the police brought out two people in handcuffs out of the parking garage put them in a SWAT vehicle and drove off. One African American and one White. Both being described as young men. Persons of interest it is being reported. Also being said Watts hall has been given an all clear and the students can come out.

They are talking to a young man who said there was a fire alarm going off in Watts Hall and everyone ran out. Then a car came along and ran into some of the people on purpose. That apparently got it all started.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:14:30am

re: #117 gocart mozart

Hiding because may be somewhat NSFW

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:14:57am
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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:16:09am

re: #122 Eclectic Cyborg

Ha!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:17:48am

I think it’s safe to say Trump is going to have a Hunger Games administration.

Infighting, infighting, infighting and there can only be one survivor.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:19:11am

Sounds like the OSU situation is under control now.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:19:13am

re: #116 Sir John Barron

I has disappoint. I was so hoping for a rigorous, uncompromising email security policy in the tRumpf admin.

///

Hillary’s e-mail problem was that she was careless.

Petraeus’ e-mail problem was unquestionably criminal. He intentionally gave whole files of classified material to his girlfriend/biographer, who kept them on a laptop elsewhere. And he lied about it when the FBI came calling.

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sagehen  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:19:59am

re: #120 Myron Falwell (no relation)

It’s partially why Ohio State is usually referred to colloquially as “The Ohio State University…” to eliminate any confusion with Ohio University in Athens.

Then there’s the Oxford in Mississippi…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:20:37am

re: #128 sagehen

Then there’s the Oxford in Mississippi…

And Miami of Ohio

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:23:10am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Miami of Ohio

Prague, Nebraska.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:24:05am

TV is showing the two guys SWAT took away. The Black guy looks older than a student and appears to be wearing an OSU ID lanyard. I’m thinking he looks like a OSU worker of some type. The white guy looks younger like a student. They looked sort of calm so I wonder if they are just being questioned.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:24:43am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

Prague, Nebraska.

The OTHER OSU - Oklahoma State University - has resulted in Ohio State using the tOSU or TOSU abbreviation.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:25:32am

re: #131 ObserverArt

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:26:32am

re: #130 Dr Lizardo

Prague, Nebraska.

Moscow, Idaho

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:26:57am

This is so freaking depressing. Those assholes didn’t only kill a bunch of innocent people, they also screwed up the lives of the family members who survived them, including their own baby daughter. Collateral damage—it’s a term I hate and this is why. It’s a euphemism that seeks to take the sharp edges off the fallout, to sanitize the pain & struggle survivors have to go through, regardless of whether it’s the survivors of the deceased shooters or their victims. It makes me want to throw something.

From the article:

They had spent the past year trying to make sense of a shooting in which there were still so many unanswered questions, and lately the one that consumed them most was what would happen to the baby. They were her closest surviving relatives. Maybe caring for their niece, Saira thought, would restore some small bit of order not only to the baby’s life, but also to their own.

So Saira, 32, and Farhan, 42, had gone to court and filed for adoption. They had submitted to regular background checks and home inspections. They had been interviewed several times by Child Protective Services and cleared by the FBI of having any prior knowledge of the shooting. Now the only thing left to do was to wait for a custody decision that was based on the county’s discretion, even though the county had not indicated when a decision might come. “We are normal people. We are a good family,” Saira had tried to impress upon one CPS representative after the next, and each of her niece’s visits was an opportunity to prove it.

Bookmark that for whenever someone tells you the family must have known, must also be guilty somehow.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:28:37am

Joe Scarborough Confirms He’s Discussed Trump’s Transition With Him Amid Reports That He Is Advising Trump

Just a reminder, Keith Olbermann was suspended for making political donations to Democrats. Dead Intern Joe is the biggest, vile hypocrite next to Lumpy.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:28:43am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:30:38am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Moscow, Idaho

I’ve visited both Cuba (southwest of Wilmington) and Florida (northeast of Defiance).

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:31:07am

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

I didn’t. OSU lost to Michigan State in double overtime in their rivalry game this past weekend. There was a lot grumbling about the officials from the Michigan State side. Less than a 4 hour drive time between the campuses.

Correction: University of Michigan, not MSU.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:31:24am

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Joe Scarborough Confirms He’s Discussed Trump’s Transition With Him Amid Reports That He Is Advising Trump

Just a reminder, Keith Olbermann was suspended for making political donations to Democrats. Dead Intern Joe is the biggest, vile hypocrite next to Lumpy.

Learning that Morning Joke is advising Trump does not fill me with confidence.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:32:33am

re: #136 Dr. Matt

Joe Scarborough Confirms He’s Discussed Trump’s Transition With Him Amid Reports That He Is Advising Trump

Just a reminder, Keith Olbermann was suspended for making political donations to Democrats. Dead Intern Joe is the biggest, vile hypocrite next to Lumpy.

I still get giggles when I remember that moment just before the election when Morning Joke realized they might find themselves looking like morons if Trump lost and so tried to put distance between them after months of basically being his morning propaganda service.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:33:07am

Adolf Drump has blocked me on twitter. Has he tweeted something inappropriate and ridiculous yet about the OSU shooting?

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:34:36am

re: #135 CuriousLurker

<sigh> I can’t help but to feel sympathy for what the rest of their family has gone through in light of what those two scumbags did. Their lives upended because of them two, in addition to the poor child. Reminds me of the London bombers where the headmaster Mohammed Siddique Khan was married with a baby at the time before he decided to cowardly take his own life along with others in London on 7/7/05.

Despicable.

If it were up to Trump, I’m afraid they would have had their homes destroyed and killed off as retaliation for merely guilt by association.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:34:50am

All academic classes at OSU cancelled for the day. Student “Buckeye” alerts still hold. People still being told to shelter in place but the scene is secured.

They are talking to a professor who is saying there is a body under a sheet at a nearby building, maybe the parking garage. and it could be one of or the suspect.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:35:19am

re: #137 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Someone got the inspiration from Jonesboro, it appears.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:35:22am

re: #138 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I’ve visited both Cuba (southwest of Wilmington) and Florida (northeast of Defiance).

Mexico and Peru, Indiana

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:36:19am

re: #135 CuriousLurker

This is so freaking depressing. Those assholes didn’t only kill a bunch of innocent people, they also screwed up the lives of the family members who survived them, including their own baby daughter. Collateral damage—it’s a term I hate and this is why. It’s a euphemism that seeks to take the sharp edges off the fallout, to sanitize the pain & struggle survivors have to go through, regardless of whether it’s the survivors of the deceased shooters or their victims. It makes me want to throw something.

Just a reminder: Adolf Drump campaigned on murdering family members of terrorists and terrorist suspects.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:36:29am

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Adolf Drump has blocked me on twitter. Has he tweeted something inappropriate and ridiculous yet about the OSU shooting?

Not yet. His last tweet was threatening Cuba.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:38:17am

Students at OSU are now allowed to leave their buildings. Sounds like the police are marking off the parking garage as a crime scene.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:39:23am

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not yet. His last tweet was threatening Cuba.

Oh, good. Now starts the saber-rattling against small countries that can’t defend themselves.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:41:39am

re: #138 Myron Falwell (no relation)

I’ve visited both Cuba (southwest of Wilmington) and Florida (northeast of Defiance).

Been to Valdosta (GA) and Val d’ Aosta (Italian Alps). Better wine in the Alps.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:42:40am

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Paris and Palestine, TX, not quite up to their old world namesakes.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:43:16am

re: #147 Dr. Matt

Just a reminder: Adolf Drump campaigned on murdering family members of terrorists and terrorist suspects.

He would take the infant children of terrorists and give them to “good” evangelical Christians to raise.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:43:25am
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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:43:41am

re: #152 Donkey With No Name

Paris and Palestine, TX, not quite up to their old world namesakes.

But the TX one is pronounced ‘Palesteen’ IIRC.

I used to do business with a classic rock station down there in my radio days.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:43:53am

re: #152 Donkey With No Name

Paris, TX has a Pakistani Muslim mayor on top of it.

However, I wouldn’t be so quick to celebrate that.

He thinks there is no problem with racism in his city since he argues the city elected a brown Muslim man as mayor. This in spite of the recent racist incidents that have erupted over various plants in the past few years. Dallas ABC affiliate WFAA did a recent report on that a week or two ago about it.

I hate it when members of minority who are already at the top want to pretend there is no racism just because it never affected them. It doesn’t hurt to show some empathy to other groups that are affected by it. Figured being a member of any minority would help relate better, but guess not.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:45:23am

re: #143 electrotek

re: #147 Dr. Matt

My mind keeps going back to their daughter. She’s still a baby right now, but sooner or later… at what age is it appropriate to tell a child that her parents were mass murdering terrorists? How big of a hole will that knowledge rip into her heart?

I just can’t even…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:46:20am

re: #157 CuriousLurker

My mind keeps going back to their daughter. She’s still a baby right now, but sooner or later… at what age is it be appropriate to tell a child that her parents were mass murdering terrorists? How big of a hole will that knowledge rip into of her heart?

I just can’t even…

Google Robert Meeropol (son of Julius & Ethel Rosenberg)

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:47:25am

re: #157 CuriousLurker

You know, Mohammed Siddique Khan’s daughter is now 11. You brought up a very good point. I wonder how she is reeling over that as she is now able to know what her father did in the Tube that afternoon in July.

God, it’s just fucking awful. You’d figure being married with a child would prevent you from doing such despicable things, but nope not even that. The 7/7 attacks shattered my perception of having a family preventing someone from being involved in terrorism back then.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:49:51am

re: #155 makeitstop

But the TX one is pronounced ‘Palesteen’ IIRC.

I used to do business with a classic rock station down there in my radio days.

Medina, Ohio is pronounced MEH-dine-AH.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:49:59am

re: #158 The Vicious Babushka

Google Robert Meeropol (son of Julius & Ethel Rosenberg)

Ted Cruz (son of Raphael Cruz)

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:51:51am

re: #160 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Medina, Ohio is pronounced MEH-dine-AH.

I have a friend who lived in Medina for a while - ran a hosting service that I used to use way, long ago.

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:52:46am

re: #160 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Medina, Ohio is pronounced MEH-dine-AH.

Like Lima being pronounced Lime-ah not Leema!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:53:18am

re: #160 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Medina, Ohio is pronounced MEH-dine-AH.

There is a town in Arizona named the heroine in the book Countess Gisela by E. Marlitt.

Except they didn’t know how to pronounce the name correctly, so they called it Guy-SEE-la instead of GEE-se-la.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:54:31am

re: #161 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ted Cruz (son of Raphael Cruz)

Okay, you actually made me giggle a little.

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Jayleia  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:54:53am

So, last night my boss insulted and lied about me, in front of others who knew better.

Operation Petty Revenge is GO!

I went to our training center, and obtained an audiobook copy of “How to Win Friends and Influence People” (it was on TAPE!) and deposited it on their desk while they were away…I’m not sure if they noticed that.

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:57:20am
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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:59:03am
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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:59:41am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2016 • 8:59:44am
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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:00:19am
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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:00:36am

re: #170 Stanley Sea

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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:02:52am

re: #172 lawhawk

Remember when we couldn’t allow terrorists to have trials in our criminal justice system because they’d just use it to spread their ideology?

Yeah, about that…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:05:41am

re: #174 KGxvi

Remember when we couldn’t allow terrorists to have trials in our criminal justice system because they’d just use it to spread their ideology?

Yeah, about that…

The Manson trials all over again. SMH

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:05:43am
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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:06:00am

re: #172 lawhawk

First day of trial:
Judge: No, Mr. Roof, you’re not allowed to have a gun to use as part of your defense.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:08:07am

re: #176 jaunte

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Prefuckingticable.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:08:23am

re: #176 jaunte

Ohio is an open carry state, and the legislature overrode the governor’s veto - which enables the state law to override home rule restrictions on open carry.

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jaunte  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:08:31am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Every time the same fantasy.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:08:57am

re: #180 jaunte

Every time the same fantasy.

Yep. Doesn’t matter where these happen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:09:50am

re: #176 jaunte

Ohio State University is a “gun free zone”. Imagine my shock. Only criminals & terrorists allowed to carry guns.

(((Robert Arthur))) @jaunte
There is currently no Ohio law against open carrying of firearms in public, including on campuses

See the “Trump Jeopardy” post above. He shouted it first and loudest, so he wins.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:10:03am

re: #176 jaunte

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Paul Watson is a f—ing Brit Twit.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:10:39am

re: #176 jaunte

We’ll probably find out later that someone had a gun, but figured pulling it out would get him targeted. Like the shooting in Washington Oregon.

Fixed.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:12:14am

re: #184 Belafon

We’ll probably find out later that someone had a gun, but figured pulling it out would get him targeted. Like the shooting in Washington.

Oregon, I presume you mean, but yeah.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:13:29am

re: #185 Donkey With No Name

Oregon, I presume you mean, but yeah.

Fixed. Thanks.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:17:32am

re: #176 jaunte

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Once again, if students were allowed to carry guns, each would have exited the building armed and ready to shoot the shooter they didn’t know was out there.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:17:58am

re: #157 CuriousLurker

My mind keeps going back to their daughter. She’s still a baby right now, but sooner or later… at what age is it appropriate to tell a child that her parents were mass murdering terrorists? How big of a hole will that knowledge rip into her heart?

I just can’t even…

I would be in favor of someone adopting her, changing her name, and never reveal her who her asshole parents were.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:18:32am

re: #185 Donkey With No Name

Oregon, I presume you mean, but yeah.

Also at the Giffords shooting in Tucson.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:18:49am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

Yeah totally agree, reluctantly :(

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:19:12am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

I would be in favor of someone adopting her, changing her name, and never reveal her who her asshole parents were.

Eventually she would find out.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:19:47am

re: #191 Belafon

Buzzkill. But you’re right :(

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:20:13am

re: #188 Dr. Matt

I would be in favor of someone adopting her, changing her name, and never reveal her who her asshole parents were.

As long as there is anyone who knows, the kid gets to know.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:21:51am

re: #176 jaunte

Ohio State University is a “gun free zone”. Imagine my shock. Only criminals & terrorists allowed to carry guns.
— Paul Joseph Watson (@PrisonPlanet) November 28, 2016

SMOTI is crying because he didn’t get to tweet that first.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:22:41am

re: #187 Sir John Barron

Once again, if students were allowed to carry guns, each would have exited the building armed and ready to shoot the shooter they didn’t know was out there.

/

OSU is a machete and automobile free zone, imagine my surprise…

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gocart mozart  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:22:47am
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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:26:06am

re: #196 gocart mozart

That is gold right there.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:26:50am

re: #196 gocart mozart

Oy Vey not this sh&t again.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:27:00am

Another ‘good guy’ with a gun…correction: a ‘good guy’ with “a cache of 21 weapons, thousands of rounds of ammunition, smoke grenades and bulletproof vests.”

‘Go back to Africa’: Road-raging man with gun frightens Muslim women into removing veils

Hovsep Avesyan, a 27-year-old white Armenian man, is facing multiple charges for allegedly brandishing a firearm while using ethnic slurs to verbally assault two Muslim women in what is thought to be a road rage incident.

The Delaware County Daily Times reported police responded to a Wawa parking lot in Upper Darby on Nov. 22 after getting a call from a 44-year-old Muslim woman and her 25-year-old daughter.

The women said that a man began yelling ethnic slurs and pulled up his jacket to reveal a firearm as soon as they pulled into the parking lot.

“You heard me,” the man allegedly said. “Go back to where you belong. Go back to Africa.”

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ObserverArt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:27:19am

re: #196 gocart mozart

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Why are you posting all that old history stuff? Do you think someone is going to repeat it or something?

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:29:19am

re: #196 gocart mozart

Bear in mind that the Germans were dealing with crushing reparations from WWI and the Great Depression was on top of all that - this was an unprecedented economic crisis. The Nazis filled that void with a way to gain power and blame the Other for all that ailed Germany - mostly on the back of racism and anti-Semitism.

Today, the US is in good economic position. Unemployment is low, inflation is low, the economy is humming along, and while there are pockets of problems (mostly in places where technology and energy sectors have seen upheaval with new and improved tech), the economy is doing well. This is hardly the setup for a fascist talking yam talking about how illegal immigrants are taking all the jobs and that snapping your fingers will make coal jobs come back. But millions bought this claptrap, just as surely as many bought his racist and xenophobic crap too.

The right wing has gone all in with a fascist who openly pandered to white supremacists during the campaign. That hasn’t changed, not when he put Bannon in a position of power in his inner circle.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:31:18am

re: #199 Dr. Matt

Oh God, an Armenian guy? Someone needs to tell him it isn’t 1915 anymore.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:31:43am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:31:54am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And Miami of Ohio

Indiana University of Pennsylvania

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:34:12am

re: #202 electrotek

Oh God, an Armenian guy? Someone needs to tell him it isn’t 1915 anymore.

The ironic part is that he was getting gas in a Wawa in the Deep South, the local yocals would assume he was a muslim terrorist.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:36:38am

re: #204 Eventual Carrion

Indiana University of Pennsylvania

University of Rio Grande (Ohio)
Pittsburg State University (Kansas)

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:36:39am

re: #205 Dr. Matt

His name doesn’t sound like someone that has completely assimilated into America, oddly enough.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:37:59am

It would have been ironic if the women he threatened weren’t even Muslim, but elderly Armenian women who still wear headscarves as part of cultural tradition from their ancestral homeland, wouldn’t it?

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:39:03am

re: #206 Dr. Matt

University of Rio Grande (Ohio)
Pittsburg State University (Kansas)

And then there’s University of Phoenix, which seems to be all over the place.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:40:32am

re: #208 electrotek

It would have been ironic if the women he threatened weren’t even Muslim, but elderly Armenian women who still wear headscarves as part of cultural tradition from their ancestral homeland, wouldn’t it?

‘Ironic’ is not a strong enough word, until I remember the power of understatement.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:41:59am

re: #209 makeitstop

And then there’s University of Phoenix, which seems to be all over the place.

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:42:22am
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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:44:10am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

You may be right. I just remember seeing its name on buildings in both upstate NY and PA.

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electrotek  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:44:25am

re: #212 wrenchwench

Bless her heart, got the utmost respect for Mrs. Giffords.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:47:05am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

Googling seems to indicate they are still active. From Wikipedia:

In October 2015, the U.S. Department of Defense suspended the university’s ability to recruit on U.S. military bases and receive federal funding for educating members of the U.S. military. In describing the suspension, The Washington Post noted that “the decision arrives amid allegations that the university sponsored recruiting events in violation of an executive order preventing for-profit colleges from gaining preferential access to the military.”[81] Some federal legislators, including U.S. Senators John McCain, Jeff Flake, and Lamar Alexander protested[82] the suspension, which was lifted in January 2016.[83]

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TedStriker  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:47:08am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

That was ITT Tech; they decided to pitch a fit like a toddler and completely shut down back earlier in the fall when it became obvious that the DoEd was going to keep cracking down on them (and other for-profit colleges) on financial requirements.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:47:14am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:48:04am

The five stages of coping with spree killings:

The five stages of coping with spree killings #OSU #OSUShooting #NRA #2A #Gunsense
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:51:13am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:52:05am

re: #216 TedStriker

That was ITT Tech; they decided to pitch a fit like a toddler and completely shut down back earlier in the fall when it became obvious that the DoEd was going to keep cracking down on them (and other for-profit colleges) on financial requirements.

That’s what I was thinking of: ITT Tech. I used to see their commercials all the time back when I lived in the USA.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:52:22am

Damn. This is an epic perma-ban:

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:53:43am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

Not for long, I hear.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:54:57am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Damn. This is an epic perma-ban:

That’s cool. I do wish some people on the plane had stepped out of their comfort zone and told the man to shut up.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:55:18am

re: #222 Barefoot Grin

Not for long, I hear.

Oops, sorry, what I heard was that Trump’s administration will roll back restrictions on preying on veterans, other unsavory practices of for-profit schools instituted under Obama admin.

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TedStriker  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:57:16am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

Oops, sorry, what I heard was that Trump’s administration will roll back restrictions on preying on veterans, other unsavory practices of for-profit schools instituted under Obama admin.

Because, of course Trump will.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:58:19am

re: #224 Barefoot Grin

re: #225 TedStriker

Even with education: buyer beware.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2016 • 9:59:21am

jeebus…I’ve had unreasonable bosses in the past but this one takes it to an entirely new level.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:01:55am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

They refunded everyone their ticket. Good Delta.

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makeitstop  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:02:13am

re: #223 Belafon

That’s cool. I do wish some people on the plane had stepped out of their comfort zone and told the man to shut up.

I would have, in a second. Might have gotten me tossed off the flight, but no way I would have sat there and let that asshole go off like that.

I was really surprised nobody shouted his ignorant ass down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:05:23am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:06:18am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

Today I am using a vacation day because I could not get Black Friday off. I will be checking my front door from time to time because there are some idiots who might say I am sick. If that happens I will be visited at my house and get a phone call. If I miss either one or both I will be automatically suspended. And even with a union to back me up I still could lose my job.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:06:21am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

They refunded everyone their ticket. Good Delta.

I predict the asshole will be fired by his job next. He deserves it.

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lawhawk  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:09:02am

A cop was the one who shot and ultimately ended the OSU incident. The suspected assailant was tentatively identified as a Somali immigrant. Cue the usual suspects.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:09:48am

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

They’re shut down, aren’t they? I thought I read that earlier this year.

No, I think they’re still going full tilt. The pro sportsball stadium in the City of Phoenix bears the name University of Phoenix as the sponsor, IIRC.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:12:29am

re: #230 Backwoods_Sleuth

[This week, the Supreme Court will consider whether the government can lock up immigrants for years without a hearing]

Private prisons profit at the expense of immigrants, even asylum seekers.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:13:54am

re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…I’ve had unreasonable bosses in the past but this one takes it to an entirely new level.

Wow. What a fucktard. Would love to know the company. This guy is in massive need of some bad press.

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:14:52am

re: #229 makeitstop

I would have, in a second. Might have gotten me tossed off the flight, but no way I would have sat there and let that asshole go off like that.

I was really surprised nobody shouted his ignorant ass down.

Apparently, the man was taken away by flight attendants — but they then allowed him to return to his seat, which is what’s being criticized. I’m not very confrontational myself, and if I saw those flight attendants Doing Something, I’d probably have assumed that the matter was being taken car of. (And don’t forget that this was a plane in flight — the noise level is so high that the vast majority of passengers probably had no idea what he said. Just another drunk making a disturbance.)

(If I had been close enough to hear and reply to him, I would have said, “and proud of it,” and left it at that.)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:19:14am

re: #231 PhillyPretzel

Today I am using a vacation day because I could not get Black Friday off. I will be checking my front door from time to time because there are some idiots who might say I am sick. If that happens I will be visited at my house and get a phone call. If I miss either one or both I will be automatically suspended. And even with a union to back me up I still could lose my job.

WTF? You have to answer a phone call from the office even if using vacation time?

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Stanley Sea  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:20:00am

re: #231 PhillyPretzel

DAMN.

I don’t get this.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:20:35am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Damn. This is an epic perma-ban:

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is this like a Twitter-ban? Allowed to fly again tomorrow?

What did the Trump flyer do?

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:20:37am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

As I stated they will believe a co-worker that says I am sick rather than what I put in for and got.

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Belafon  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:22:50am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

is this like a Twitter-ban? Allowed to fly again tomorrow?

What did the Trump flyer do?

This is the guy who stood up on the airplane and proclaimed that this is Trump country. There was a video someone took going around. If I could get on Twitter, I would find it for you.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:23:40am

re: #239 Stanley Sea

I agree. But with this job I have to abide by their rules. In the past and way before I got my job they had many people calling out sick. Management saw it as though these workers were stealing money from them. That is why I have a picture on my iPhone of said day I am using and how it is categorized. Even with that there could be some problems.

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unproven innocence  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:24:25am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

WTF? You have to answer a phone call from the office even if using vacation time?

Sounds much like house-servants/slaves compelled to answer pronto whenever the master rang a bell.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:24:26am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

is this like a Twitter-ban? Allowed to fly again tomorrow?

What did the Trump flyer do?

The video has since been removed:

A Donald Trump supporter got out of his seat and started yelling out screams of praise for the president-elect on a recent flight, much to the shock of other passengers.

A video taken on the Delta Airlines flight from Atlanta to Allentown shows the man mid-rant, goading other passengers over whether they too were Trump supporters or if they voted for Hillary Clinton.

‘Donald Trump baby!’ We got some Hillary b****es on here?’ the man is heard saying in the clip, which has quickly spread on Facebook since it was posted on Tuesday.

The man continues: ‘Come on baby, Trump! Donald Trump is your President. Every god damn one of you. If you don’t like it, too bad.’

outsidethebeltway.com

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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:26:19am

re: #245 Timothy Watson

The video has since been removed:

outsidethebeltway.com

I bet this plane was a gun-free zone, too, huh?

/

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:27:19am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

is this like a Twitter-ban? Allowed to fly again tomorrow?

What did the Trump flyer do?

Pure Kkklass:

Trump Supporter Calls Passengers ‘Hillary Bitches’ In Airplane Rant

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We're Way Beyond Snark  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:29:42am

re: #231 PhillyPretzel

Today I am using a vacation day because I could not get Black Friday off. I will be checking my front door from time to time because there are some idiots who might say I am sick. If that happens I will be visited at my house and get a phone call. If I miss either one or both I will be automatically suspended. And even with a union to back me up I still could lose my job.

You’re not allowed to be sick on a vacation day? That’s just weird — where I worked, people would use vacation when the sick leave ran out.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:34:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:34:51am

re: #248 We’re Way Beyond Snark

The key thing is they look at time is theirs and not mine. All of the time I have earned should belong to me including sick time. My employer sees my hours as theirs. It has been this way for quite a while. We recently got rid of an Executive Director who enforced these rules. I am hoping that the new Director changes these rules. It looks as though she might just do that.

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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:41:40am

[…]

My discipline within biological anthropology is called reproductive ecology. That means we study how environmental variables influence reproductive physiology. If more women understood that interaction—how our culture, stress, food, sleep, reproductive state, and other stuff affects our bodies—they would be more informed and able to make their own decisions about their health.

[…]

More science, please!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:44:19am

Well, good night, Lizards; up early for work tomorrow.

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darthstar  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:46:41am

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:47:19am

And the apologists…..

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:47:32am

re: #240 Sir John Barron

is this like a Twitter-ban? Allowed to fly again tomorrow?

Twitter is they type of company that others will hopefully avoid emulating… if they don’t want their bottom line to suffer.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:48:51am

re: #228 Stanley Sea

They refunded everyone their ticket. Good Delta.

Yep, definitely booking Delta for my next trip.

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Kragar  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:50:06am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:51:48am

re: #257 Kragar

[Embedded content]

You can have my embarrassing Trump pics when you pry them from my cold, dead keyboard.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:52:11am

More annoying whining in public from Trump fans:

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Scottishdragon  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:52:42am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Damn. This is an epic perma-ban:

[Embedded content]

Meanwhile, Rod Dreher is studiously ignoring every single fucking incident like this and concentrated this morning on finding a single obscure teacher at an obscure private college who said bad things about Trump in class to make his point that real’Mericans are angry about those liberals in college all over

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Scottishdragon  Nov 28, 2016 • 10:56:58am

re: #236 Dr. Matt

Wow. What a fucktard. Would love to know the company. This guy is in massive need of some bad press.

He probably should have been arrested actually, for interfering with the flight.

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Kragar  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:02:26am
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Kragar  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:05:53am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:07:23am

re: #260 Scottishdragon

Meanwhile, Rod Dreher is studiously ignoring every single fucking incident like this and concentrated this morning on finding a single obscure teacher at an obscure private college who said bad things about Trump in class to make his point that real’Mericans are angry about those liberals in college all over

Shouldn’t Rod be staying off email, the Internet and generally not gobbling about the news while he’s doing the Benedict Option? Or else why bother going Full Benedict?

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Charles Johnson  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:08:10am
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jaunte  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:08:41am
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:09:16am

I thought I heard about some new movement like the David Horowitz campaigns of old to create a database of “liberal” professors—a kind of TurnEmIn for your young and upcoming fascist.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:10:21am

re: #267 Barefoot Grin

I thought I heard about some new movement like the David Horowitz campaigns of old to create a database of “liberal” professors—a kind of TurnEmIn for your young and upcoming fascist.

Erdogan would be proud that we are following his lead…

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:11:20am

re: #254 Dr. Matt

And the apologists…..

[Embedded content]

Should follow this guy around and when he got into a taxi, get in and berate the shit out of him.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:13:33am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Erdogan would be proud that we are following his lead…

His daughters—or at least one of them—went to IU and therefore there were some ties. I wonder if that feels uncomfortable now.

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Jenner7  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:14:05am

This is just insane.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:15:03am

re: #271 Jenner7

Gen. Petraeus has arrived at Trump Tower for his meeting with the president-elect about possible secretary of state nomination
This is just insane.

Remember, Normal as we know it no longer exists,

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Dr. Matt  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:15:04am
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wrenchwench  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:17:23am

Old tweet, but it was freshly retweeted.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:18:00am

The guy down the street from me is so disgustingly happy to display his hate, Gordon, NE is better than this…

All these flags say to any normal person is “We Never Won a War”

But we left normal behind years ago…

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:19:08am

re: #270 Barefoot Grin

His daughters—or at least one of them—went to IU and therefore there were some ties. I wonder if that feels uncomfortable now.

Here it is:

news.iu.edu

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nines09  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:19:20am

re: #273 Dr. Matt

Not even the obligatory stars and stripes. Full on Nazi.

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Scottishdragon  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:22:50am

re: #263 Kragar

[Embedded content]

That was a really depressing movie.

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KGxvi  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:25:45am

re: #49 Belafon

Something worth pointing out as well: Feingold, Strickland, and Clinton were all retreads. Feingold and Strickland both lost races in 2010, and Clinton lost the nomination in 2008.

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MsJ  Nov 28, 2016 • 11:25:56am

re: #259 Backwoods_Sleuth

More annoying whining in public from Trump fans:

[Embedded content]

From the comments:

TechYes • 16 minutes ago

Trumpfluenza: white entitlement + victim complex.

Heh.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 28, 2016 • 1:36:42pm

re: #264 Sir John Barron

Y’all misunderstand. He is not taking the Benedict Option, he is taking the Bein’ A Dick Option.


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