Seth takes a closer look at the president and his lawyers going from arguing that there was no quid pro quo to arguing that the president can do literally whatever he wants.
From the previous thread:
re: #221 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
And god damned Manchin
Well, we could have Don Blankenship in his seat instead… .
I worked with other senators to make sure that we have the right to ask for more documents and witnesses, but there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the U.S. Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense.1/15
— Sen. Lamar Alexander (@SenAlexander) January 31, 2020
Hey guys, maybe we should just burn the motherfucker down
— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 31, 2020
re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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He belongs to a party that impeached a President over lying about a sexual affair and he wants to go “Oh sure it was inappropriate for him to demand a country investigate his potential opponent but no biggie, he shouldn’t be removed.” No fucking integrity.
As I thought, the whole “Mitch doesn’t have the votes to block witnesses” story was bogus.
re: #5 bratwurst
As I thought, the whole “Mitch doesn’t have the votes to block witnesses” story was bogus.
Not so fast.
Collins: “I will vote in support of the motion to allow witnesses and documents to be subpoenaed.”
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 31, 2020
Alexander isn’t running for re-election, Collins is. The situation is still somewhat fluid.
re: #1 Anymouse 🌹🎃
From the previous thread:
Well, we could have Don Blankenship in his seat instead… .
Shrug. Better Manchin than Collins. I respect his tightrope much more than anyone else - I don’t count on him but he really is better than we have any reason to expect from there.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
Not so fast.
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Alexander isn’t running for re-election, Collins is. The situation is still somewhat fluid.
Romney (maybe) and Collins and that’s it. McConnell wants Trump acquitted before SOTU.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
Not so fast.
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Alexander isn’t running for re-election, Collins is. The situation is still somewhat fluid.
I don’t see it - who are the 3 other vulnerable GOPers who seemed open to witnesses? Ernst, McSally, and Gardner have gone full trumpchump. The only other potential pro-witness votes I can see are Romney and Murkowski, and that’s not enough.
re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Told ya, the Susan Collins of Tennessee.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
Not so fast.
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Alexander isn’t running for re-election, Collins is. The situation is still somewhat fluid.
But we knew Collins, Mitt and Murkowski were likely to be in favor of hearing from Bolton even before the recent revelations regarding Mr. Mustache. When the Wall Street Journal reports that Mitch doesn’t have the votes to block, that implies there are others beside the aforementioned.
Turns out there aren’t.
re: #9 Interesting Times
I don’t see it - who are the 3 other vulnerable GOPers who seemed open to witnesses? Ernst, McSally, and Gardner have gone full trumpchump. The only other potential pro-witness votes I can see are Romney and Murkowski, and that’s not enough.
What the hell happened to “principled” Ben Sasse? He’s right behind Lindsey in having made that hard turn deep up Trump’s ass.
I hope it bites him hard this fall.
Anymouse for US Senate!
What would be amusing is a 50-50 vote and then Roberts is forced to make the decision.
Well that is some birthday present I get tomorrow.
Republicans making it clear that those motherfathers are above the law!
re: #12 i(m)p(each)sos
What the hell happened to “principled” Ben Sasse? He’s right behind Lindsey in having made that hard turn deep up Trump’s ass.
I hope it bites him hard this fall.
Anymouse for US Senate!
I think he’s ambitious and thinks he can be President one day and he knows he has to bend to Dear Leader. Every GOP primary as long as Trump and the core of his cult live will be a referendum if you were loyal enough to Trump.
“The president is a crook but I don’t give a shit”
- Lamar Alexander— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 31, 2020
re: #16 gocart mozart
How can this impeachment be “shallow, hurried and partisan” if you concede the House managers proved their case?
How can you say it’s shallow and hurried when YOU vote against hearing testimony?
I’d say you should be ashamed. But you obviously have no sense of shame.— Gene Bromberg (@genebromberg) January 31, 2020
John Bolton could step forward and say what he knows, without reference to his book or anything else. He could simply say: “Here is what I saw.”
Instead, he’s playing a coy game, and it will burn him. https://t.co/l94JqAIg2c— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 31, 2020
re: #9 Interesting Times
I don’t see it - who are the 3 other vulnerable GOPers who seemed open to witnesses? Ernst, McSally, and Gardner have gone full trumpchump. The only other potential pro-witness votes I can see are Romney and Murkowski, and that’s not enough.
Not by themselves, but if the three of them send the decision to Roberts that at least put him in a very uncomfortable position. He’s not a dumb man, he knows this fucking charade the Republicans are putting on is going to age about as well as a raw shucked oyster. His desperate hope until now has been to avoid any semblance of real ownership of it, and the last thing he probably wants is to have to rule not to hear Bolton and then have to eat that decision for the next twenty years as the magnitude of Trump’s crimes become apparent.
John Bolton better stay out of high rise buildings and he better stay away from drinking any tea…
re: #12 i(m)p(each)sos
What the hell happened to “principled” Ben Sasse? He’s right behind Lindsey in having made that hard turn deep up Trump’s ass.
I hope it bites him hard this fall.
Anymouse for US Senate!
LOL. I don’t really think I would make a good US senator. (My wife just asked “why not?”)
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re: #19 goddamnedfrank
Not by themselves, but if the three of them send the decision to Roberts that at least put him in a very uncomfortable position. He’s not a dumb man, he knows this fucking charade the Republicans are putting on is going to age about as well as a raw shucked oyster. His desperate hope until now has been to avoid any semblance of real ownership of it, and the last thing he probably wants is to have to rule not to hear Bolton and then have to eat that decision for the next twenty years as the magnitude of Trump’s crimes become apparent.
That’s very true. I don’t like Roberts at all and his lecture last week definitely came off sanctimonious but he might be more a wild card than we think.
You know…all those folks who claimed we weren’t a democracy were right after all.
They just happened to also be wrong that we were a Republic.
We were a monarchy waiting to happen. We just needed the right Republican for half the country to bend knee to so they could kick the shit out of the other half of the country like they always wanted.
#IOKIYAR is well and truly law in this country, now and forever.
re: #19 goddamnedfrank
Not by themselves, but if the three of them send the decision to Roberts that at least put him in a very uncomfortable position.
I suspect Moscow Mitch planned for that in advance, however :/ So my somewhat revised prediction is:
51-49 against witnesses and docs (I’d be surprised at this point if Collins is the only pro-witness vote, but maybe Murkowski is still nursing her bad-faith grudge over the “head on a pike” thing).
Absolutely everything that has ever been helpful or good is being destroyed. https://t.co/31fPBICup6
— Peg (@PFlowerstone) January 31, 2020
re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹
John Bolton better stay out of high rise buildings and he better stay away from drinking any tea…
His mustache will strain out any polonium that finds his way into his tea….
re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🎃
LOL. I don’t really think I would make a good US senator. (My wife just asked “why not?”)
I like. Run as a vet. I’d give every penny I have.
Well, the grand experiment is over. Welcome to the fascist state of Trumpland.
I feel like Abraham arguing with the Lord for just 4 righteous Republicans in Sodom to save it from destruction.
Turns out we can’t even get that many. Time to rain fire on the Party and turn it into a political pillar of salt.— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) January 31, 2020
re: #2 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Lots of eight-digit “Tennesseans” on that thread.
re: #30 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Lots of eight-digit “Tennesseans” on that thread.
Ah the Vladivostok Volunteers, braver men I never knew.//
re: #27 William Lewis
I like. Run as a vet. I’d give every penny I have.
Hmm … filing deadline is March 2. The problem is (besides I’m not known outside of the Panhandle) is the filing fee is 1% of the annual salary of the political office in question.
Here have a cute video. We can be entertained while Rome burns.
Guy catches adorable groundhog eating his veggie garden — and lets him have whatever he wants 💚 pic.twitter.com/gZaJRovU6m
— The Dodo (@dodo) January 31, 2020
Obama turned the page and the gop plunged a machete into the country’s back. How about we stop doing that?
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 31, 2020
re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well that is some birthday present I get tomorrow.
Republicans making it clear that those motherfathers are above the law!
You get one too.
re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Hmm … filing deadline is March 2. The problem is (besides I’m not known outside of the Panhandle) is the filing fee is 1% of the annual salary of the political office in question.
A serious ouch. Crowdfund via GoFundMe? It goes straight into your bank so once you hit the amount, trek to the Sec of State or Elections Board in Nebraska.
Strong and wrong will always beat weak and right. Every single time.
And yet the Democrats are always appealing to Republicans to look into their hearts and do the right thing when all the gop wants to do is fuck over the country. https://t.co/ewWB2x4JAw— Oliver Willis (@owillis) January 31, 2020
re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Hmm … filing deadline is March 2. The problem is (besides I’m not known outside of the Panhandle) is the filing fee is 1% of the annual salary of the political office in question.
are you allowed to accept donations for that, or does it have to be your money?
The candidate running for Lamar Alexander’s seat.
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I’m @James_Mackler, and after 9/11 I joined the 101st Airborne Division, because I felt it was my duty to serve the country I love. Now I’m running for U.S. Senate, and it’s my duty to tell the truth about Donald Trump. Join the campaign at https://t.co/cxFYf8vL8a #tnsen pic.twitter.com/dGdbxDiKon
— James Mackler (@James_Mackler) January 8, 2019
re: #41 sagehen
are you allowed to accept donations for that, or does it have to be your money?
It has to be your money.
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I might turn my back on Dems if the next Dem administration decides we need to look forward,not back, and refuses to thoroughly investigate everything the Trump Team did while in office.
re: #46 William Lewis
That. Bites.
I’m not a big fan of the idea of filing fees for office. It puts a barrier up to run.
When I was on the village board, there was no filing fee because there was no paycheck. In my last term, I put forward an ordinance to pay board members $100 a month. This time around there will be a filing fee ($12).
re: #45 plansbandc
The last thing we need is for people to give up. We need energy, righteous indignation, and rage to mobilize the base to get past all the Republican dirty tricks and win the Senate and Presidency (and maybe even more seats in the House).
re: #45 plansbandc
I’m thisclose to giving up.
My guess Pete Buttigieg is not going to go much farther in the primaries. He’s polling awfully low amongst minority voters, which pretty much seals your fate in the Democratic Party.
re: #48 aatharuv
The problem is, I think the elections will be rigged. I think that’s why the R Senate doesn’t give a shit about the will of the voters.
re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🎃
The candidate running for Lamar Alexander’s seat.
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Really encouraged to see a lot of young vets running against Trump and Trumpism.
re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🎃
My guess Pete Buttigieg is not going to go much farther in the primaries. He’s polling awfully low amongst minority voters, which pretty much seals your fate in the Democratic Party.
It’ll come down to Biden vs. Warren I think.
re: #50 plansbandc
The problem is, I think the elections will be rigged. I think that’s why the R Senate doesn’t give a shit about the will of the voters.
Well, they have left them wide open to foreign meddling again.
re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🎃
My guess Pete Buttigieg is not going to go much farther in the primaries. He’s polling awfully low amongst minority voters, which pretty much seals your fate in the Democratic Party.
Yeah I don’t think he’s gonna be the nominee either.
re: #45 plansbandc
I’m thisclose to giving up.
I sympathize but it’s not time for that. We were given the gift of this nation by the sacrifice of those before us; we owe it to both them and our great grandchildren to refuse to surrender. Spears shall be shaken and shields shall be splintered long before it is that time.
re: #45 plansbandc
I’m thisclose to giving up.
Do. Not. Move. The. Goal. Posts.
We knew the Senate was going to acquit. They have no spines.
Our task is to mobilize and vote in November. Stay angry and keep focused on the elections. And not just for president. From the justice of the peace all the way up.
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
It’ll come down to Biden vs. Warren I think.
There’s always Bernie as a factor but I think a three person race favors them. Warren has won over some established Democrats in a way Sanders with some exceptions hasn’t. Bernie’s problem is his key demo is unreliable at the polls.
re: #56 Belafon
Do. Not. Move. The. Goal. Posts.
We knew the Senate was going to acquit. They have no spines.
Our task is to mobilize and vote in November. Stay angry and keep focused on the elections. And not just for president. From the justice of the peace all the way up.
This
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
It’ll come down to Biden vs. Warren I think.
How about a Biden/Warren (or other way round) unity ticket?
re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🎃
How about a Biden/Warren (or other way round) unity ticket?
Maybe, but I think Biden has to pick an African American woman.
re: #55 William Lewis
Oh I will vote and work for the candidate and protest, but my spirit has died. We’ve lost.
re: #50 plansbandc
The problem is, I think the elections will be rigged. I think that’s why the R Senate doesn’t give a shit about the will of the voters.
Then we will have to take back the nation and, unlike meal team 6, we will have to be willing to die for it. Otherwise it really is gone for ever.
re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🎃
How about a Biden/Warren (or other way round) unity ticket?
Think you need younger for the VP. But the principle of uniting the factions is a good idea. I’m on board with Biden-Harris or Warren-Castro at the moment.
The rest of the world except for Russia, Turkey, Hungary and the Philippines have had enough of Trump.
I fully expect that they will dump the dollar as the reserve currency and I would not be surprised to see a new Arab oil embargo.
re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🎃
How about a Biden/Warren (or other way round) unity ticket?
I’d happily take either. I just want that anti-American motherdaughter-fucker in a prison cell.
re: #60 Belafon
Maybe, but I think Biden has to pick an African American woman.
Harris. Abrams, and hell maybe even Val Demmings after the job she’s done as an impeachment manager.
re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹
The rest of the world except for Russia, Turkey, Hungary and the Philippines have had enough of Trump.
I fully expect that they will dump the dollar as the reserve currency and I would not be surprised to see a new Arab oil embargo.
America first is America alone a wiser person me observed.
Kickass Congresswomen Help Sick Migrant Six-Year-Old Girl (Wonkette)
Five congresswomen took on CPB over a girl in one of the “asylum camps” in Matamoros to get her into the country. She is a child with a heart condition which requires surgery, a physician in Philadelphia provided a lawyer for the family and his medical opinion she need the surgery.
Even Trump’s “cruelty is the point” asylum plan says the disabled or people needing medical care are to be let in the country. CPB ignored that.
Yr Wonkette contacted the offices of Rep. Barragán and another member of the delegation, Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Connecticut), as well as Lawyers for Good Government, to ask for updates on the girl’s medical condition and her family’s situation since they were allowed into the country. Ron Eckstein, communication director for Rep. Barragán, said the Congressional Hispanic Caucus had received word that the girl is now getting medical treatment from that doctor in Philadelphia. We’re still waiting to get more information on her familiy’s situation, particularly whether they’re going to remain free while their asylum case moves forward, or, Crom forbid, if they’re being held in one of ICE’s family detention centers while their case moves forward. We’ll let you know what we find out.
In the meantime, vote and campaign against the Trump agenda like lives depend on it, because they do.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see a spike in jury nullification as people increasingly lose faith in the judicial system.
re: #64 Joe Bacon 🌹
I’d say Saudi Arabia and Israel are happy with Trump too. And India doesn’t mind too much for now, as long as Trump doesn’t want to invade Nipple or Button.
re: #72 uriel
I’m tired.
This is terribly cliche, but that’s what sleep is for. And I know what you mean.
Nothing will stop Trump now from canceling the election all together out of “the country’s best interest”. Fucking Republicans will let him do it too.
If by some miracle we even have an election and he loses in November, I can see the next Dem administration just letting everything he’s done slide, because we need to “heal as a nation and come together”. Fuck that shit.
re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus
This is the despair I feel also.
re: #52 Eclectic Cyborg
It’ll come down to Biden vs. Warren I think.
sad for me.
my first choice is Amy Klobuchar (I like her speeches, the policy pages on her website, her performance in Senate hearings, and her general background and track record), 2nd choice is Michael Bloomberg (I was pretty happy with his performance as NYC mayor, his climate change/gun control work since then, and his overall proven competence, plus how much he irritates the hell out of Pumpkin Pinochet for being in real life everything Trump tries to pose as on TV).
Joe I generally like even though I think he’s past his sell-by date, Warren I’m lukewarm about, and if Bernie or Buttigieg is the nominee I’d grit my teeth to vote for them as “at least he isn’t Trump”.
re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus
Nothing will stop Trump now from canceling the election all together out of “the country’s best interest”. Fucking Republicans will let him do it too.
If by some miracle we even have an election and he loses in November, I can see the next Dem administration just letting everything he’s done slide, because we need to “heal as a nation and come together”. Fuck that shit.
He can’t cancel the election technically. The election is really 50 state elections.
re: #80 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
We never thought things would get this far either, yet here we are. I’m just saying. Get ready for the very distinct possibility that he will try. And republicans will fall in line, unquestioningly. They’ve made it clear you’re above the law if you’re one of them.
Group sex in Iowa. No wonder they caucus.
— bramdavis (@bramdavis1) January 31, 2020
re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus
We never thought things would get this far either, yet here we are. I’m just saying. Get ready for the very distinct possibility that he will try. And republicans will fall in line, unquestioningly. They’ve made it clear you’re above the law if you’re one of them.
I’m just saying that he would have to bully 50 state Secretaries of State. I’m sure he will try something. I’m hoping enough people raise hell that he loses in a landslide.
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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OFFS we are not.// Balloons? Did Pennywise the Clown move to Virginia?
re: #81 GlutenFreeJesus
I knew they would get this far. I shouted to the fucking rooftops about how it would get this far. But I have zero power, I’m not a rich white male Christian. So fuck it all.
I’m honestly stunned by it all. Just like that. The Senate establishes this is okay.
re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🎃
How about a Biden/Warren (or other way round) unity ticket?
Warren can be more effective outside the VP role than in it.
I hate to put this in battle terms, even though I tend to think of this as a cold civil war, but here it is: We’ve been warriors at this site for a while now, far longer than the AOCs and others. A few of us have taken to the front lines, like Anymouse, while most of us have done more in the background, especially Happy Warrior, who has done great things for VA.
But while we have toiled and become disillusioned, a bunch of new people have stood up. They are running for office, getting people out to vote, and voting. Now is not the time for us to give up. The GOP is scared. The people that are part of it are doing everything they can to hold onto power, but they are running out of ways to keep it. A wave will wash over them, but it’s going to require all of us.
And it’s going to require us to be the same people we were in 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018, and all of the years in between, because the new people need us to be there. It’s going to require those of us who knew Republicans only cared about themselves and power. It’s going to require those of us who stood up to them when the wind was in our face. Because the new ones need us to tell and show them how to stand up to it. And we can’t give into fear now. Republicans are at their most desperate. But there are way more of us, and we can defeat them.
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Virginia: Balloons?
Oregon: Used underwear? (eww)
We just stopped doing caucuses in Nebraska; perhaps our porn preference will change now.
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Latex in Arizona just seems like it wouldn’t work.
Though I’m not actually surprised at Texas. We have serious daddy issues here.
re: #88 Belafon
I hate to put this in battle terms, even though I tend to think of this as a cold civil war, but here it is: We’ve been warriors at this site for a while now, far longer than the AOCs and others. A few of us have taken to the front lines, like Anymouse, while most of us have done more in the background, especially Happy Warrior, who has done great things for VA.
But while we have toiled and become disillusioned, a bunch of new people have stood up. They are running for office, getting people out to vote, and voting. Now is not the time for us to give up. The GOP is scared. The people that are part of it are doing everything they can to hold onto power, but they are running out of ways to keep it. A wave will wash over them, but it’s going to require all of us.
And it’s going to require use to be the same people we were in 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018, and all of the years in between, because the new people need us to be there. It’s going to require those of us who knew Republicans only cared about themselves and power. It’s going to require those of us who stood up to them when the wind was in our face. Because the new ones need us to tell and show them how to stand up to it. And we can’t give into fear now. Republicans are at their most desperate. But there are way more of us, and we can defeat them.
As I said, I’m ready to volunteer for the nominee. Hell I might even try to help flip Pennsylvania if I can. Virginia is likely staying with the Dems and Pennsylvania needs to be righted.
re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus
Nothing will stop Trump now from canceling the election all together out of “the country’s best interest”. Fucking Republicans will let him do it too.
If by some miracle we even have an election and he loses in November, I can see the next Dem administration just letting everything he’s done slide, because we need to “heal as a nation and come together”. Fuck that shit.
You’re not fucking wrong.
Just prepare for ads if your Senator vote against this.
Oh and fuck the media fur calling Alexander a “moderate” Republican. There’s no such thing.
There are a lot of great people running and I was encouraged to see Warner speak out too.
re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus
Oh and fuck the media fur calling Alexander a “moderate” Republican. There’s no such thing.
The media endlessly kissed Republican ass ever since Reagan came to power. There is no Republican lie they won’t endlessly repeat. That’s why I refer to those Pre$$titute$ as the DC Press Corpse.
re: #96 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
There are a lot of great people running and I was encouraged to see Warner speak out too.
And I think Ernst is digging her political grave. Iowa went from four Republican congressmen to three Democrats + King barely held on. That really doesn’t bode well for a Republican running for Senate.
re: #98 Belafon
And I think Ernst is digging her political grave. Iowa went from four Republican congressmen to three Democrats + King barely held on. That really doesn’t bode well for a Republican running for Senate.
PHONY JONI GOT TO GO!
re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus
Oh and fuck the media fur calling Alexander a “moderate” Republican. There’s no such thing.
Sure there is, a moderate Republican is concerned about Trump whereas a conservative one asks how much more can I look like a complete subservient wimp to Trump. And there are people like Steve King who would have volunteered for the SS.
re: #98 Belafon
And I think Ernst is digging her political grave. Iowa went from four Republican congressmen to three Democrats + King barely held on. That really doesn’t bode well for a Republican running for Senate.
Yes, I really think we see the same thing. Frustration. And it’s why it’s vital to have a nominee that campaigns either directly or had surrogates for Dem candidates everywhere they can.
re: #100 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Sure there is, a moderate Republican is concerned about Trump whereas a conservative one asks how much more can I look like a complete subservient wimp to Trump. And there are people like Steve King who would have volunteered for the SS.
Just look at Steven Miller, disciple of Richard Spencer and Dennis Prager!
TBH Trumpism is going to dominate discussion for a generation. Trump needs to be the face of corruption, bigotry, incompetence, & economic mismanagement.
re: #101 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Yes, I really think we see the same thing. Frustration. And it’s why it’s vital to have a nominee that campaigns either directly or had surrogates for Dem candidates everywhere they can.
Something something fifty state strategy.
You can’t win every seat, but you can’t win any seat you don’t compete for.
re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Something something fifty state strategy.
You can’t win every seat, but you can’t win any seat you don’t compete for.
Texas Democrats finally realized that in 2018, and this year have someone running for every statewide seat, and all of the congressional seats.
re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Something something fifty state strategy.
You can’t win every seat, but you can’t win any seat you don’t compete for.
We saw that locally here. Had candidates in nearly every house and senate district. People are going to want run for as a result of this.
re: #105 Belafon
Texas Democrats finally realized that in 2018, and this year have someone running for every statewide seat, and all of the congressional seats.
We flipped my school board here in 2018, and in Bayard (city on the other side of the county) a write-in Democratic candidate trounced the Republican mayor.
In the county seat, an independent ousted the Republican mayor.
Our county is still red, but they’re losing ground here.
re: #105 Belafon
Texas Democrats finally realized that in 2018, and this year have someone running for every statewide seat, and all of the congressional seats.
That was why I took issue with other Democrats calling Beto a loser. He helped some candidates win even if he lost.
re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🎃
We flipped my school board here in 2018, and in Bayard (city on the other side of the county) a write-in Democratic candidate trounced the Republican mayor.
In the county seat, an independent ousted the Republican mayor.
Our county is still red, but they’re losing ground here.
Yeah it’s seemingly little things but little things become bigger. As Bela said, a lot of us are disillusioned but there are other people who see this as their opportunity and are ready to take these guys on.
I also think every person in Maine knows what Collins and McConnell are doing by having her vote “for” witnesses. She would never be the deciding vote. This is going to gain her nothing in the state.
re: #82 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
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New York is leather? This does not surprise me in the least.
re: #95 GlutenFreeJesus
Oh and fuck the media fur calling Alexander a “moderate” Republican. There’s no such thing.
As one of my Senators, Alexander used to be what was considered a “moderate” Republican: he was elected Governor to clean up Ray Blanton’s naked and pervasive corruption (and took the oath of office early because Blanton resigned) and was a decent enough two-term governor who focused on education, was UT-Knoxville chancellor for a a couple of years, then served as GHWB’s Secretary of Education, Hell, even when he was first elected to take Fred Thompson’s Senate seat in 2003, he was still considered a moderate for quite a few years.
Then Obama happened and the GOP electorate of this state flipped their shit; to keep their votes, he rolled with the GOP’s program of hate and obstructions.
Quite ironic that a man that was seen as the one to clean up our version of Capitol Hill when he was first sworn in as Tennessee’s governor has, as one of its Senators, been helping to cover for and enable a President (and party) that is arguably much more corrupt, dishonest, and venal than Ray Blanton ever was.
Well, I hope Lewis Powell is happy knowing his memorandum became the blueprint to turn America into a fascist theocracy.
Hey, try to get a good night’s sleep, center your chakras or whatever.
Because tomorrow is going to be a lot— Jason McGlothlen (@goddamnedfrank) January 31, 2020
I suspect tomorrow will be a sad day for democracy in the US. I greatly appreciate the folks here at LGF - honest dialog and hopeful ideas. I wish I was more hopeful.
re: #115 goddamnedfrank
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It’s not the witness debate and vote that’s likely to be a joke, or even the “acquittal” votes that will go by like a fart in the wind.
It’s the coming metric shit-ton of “Dems totally fucked this up!” hot takes that are coming. The polls have never been on the side of the Repubs or Cheeto Benito, the public want this man gone in the worst way, AND YET we’re going to be told again and again that the Dems were wrong to ever impeach him and will “pay a heavy price” for it.
Buck up, folks, we’re about to get an idea of what America would have looked like if Nixon had fought his impeachment and been “acquitted.” It’s not going to be pretty.
Wow, I tuned out the rest of the day, came back, and it was like waking up neck-deep in shit. But, that was to be expected.
There are no moderate Republicans, there are only Republicans, and this is what they are. They have conned middle white America so hard they’ve turned to diamonds, impervious to facts. They will continue to rally and will be nearly invincible when their golden boy walks on this impeachment and raises his tiny fists in triumph. The gloat and stupidity reminds me of the old Nazi rallies, and I don’t say that lightly, I’m not going Godwin.
The general public suffers more for an unpaid traffic ticket than the POTUS pays for high crimes. I think of all the poor bastards rotting in jail after losing everything they own for stupid things like a bag of marijuana, yet jackass Trump is the cock of the walk, free to literally rape and pillage our country flanked by his unqualified and equally unscrupulous family members.
re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus
America reminds me of the shitty town in the movie Unforgiven, except there isn’t anyone riding in on a pale horse to clean up the town.
Historically, the reason Dems don’t win is because when the going gets tough, they get appalled, not tougher. Yeah, and fuck healing. It’s way too late to waste time on that.
re: #119 Targetpractice
It’s not the witness debate and vote that’s likely to be a joke, or even the “acquittal” votes that will go by like a fart in the wind.
It’s the coming metric shit-ton of “Dems totally fucked this up!” hot takes that are coming. The polls have never been on the side of the Repubs or Cheeto Benito, the public want this man gone in the worst way, AND YET we’re going to be told again and again that the Dems were wrong to ever impeach him and will “pay a heavy price” for it.
Buck up, folks, we’re about to get an idea of what America would have looked like if Nixon had fought his impeachment and been “acquitted.” It’s not going to be pretty.
It’s such a sniveling, smarmy ass, bullying, transparently unprincipled Kafkaesque argument that I think it’s going to be a difficult sell for them.
Justice Roberts allowed this. @jaketapper @maddow https://t.co/reoohOM0oT
— Cheri Jacobus (@CheriJacobus) January 31, 2020
I get the impression Jared has no fucking clue what he is doing.
“It took the Americans several hours to understand what was happening..At no stage in talks w/the PM’s people was a green light given – explicitly or implicitly – for immediate annexations, before Israel’s March 2 election..https://t.co/sOy5eaG5Xl
— Stefanie Dekker (@StefanieDekker) January 31, 2020
re: #118 Anymouse 🌹🎃
I have some.
I do to but it required me to pour from a virgin barrel of rum. I just refilled it about 80% to full last night with Mt Gay so there’s not much flavor imparted. I’d have slummed it with Bacardi but I finished that last night.
re: #122 goddamnedfrank
It’s such a sniveling, smarmy ass, bullying, transparently unprincipled Kafkaesque argument that I think it’s going to be a difficult sell for them.
Honestly, I find Alexander’s admission refreshing if morally bankrupt: “We know he did it, we just don’t care.” The vulnerable of his colleagues will try to make excuses and blame Democrats for “not making their case,” will whine about how if only Pelosi and Schiff and Nadler had followed “procedure” then they might have swayed their votes. But Lamar cut through that BS and admitted what we all knew: There was never a threshold that could be met, a witness called or document produced, that was going to change the outcome of this charade.
It’s hard to tell which is going to be more damning in the long run: All those excuses and murmurings of “concern” from the “moderates” in the coming months with each new revelation or the smarmy MAGAt assholes who are going to meet every new revelation with two phrases: “So what?” and “Get over it!”
11:30 pm Jan 30
As of 11:20 pm Thursday, total confirmed novel coronavirus cases in China reached 8,149 with 171 deaths.
8:20 am Jan 31
China reports 9,692 confirmed cases of new coronavirus pneumonia, 213 deaths.
re: #127 Dread Pirate
11:30 pm Jan 30
As of 11:20 pm Thursday, total confirmed novel coronavirus cases in China reached 8,149 with 171 deaths.
8:20 am Jan 31
China reports 9,692 confirmed cases of new coronavirus pneumonia, 213 deaths.
Sweden’s public health agency is expected to ask the administration to classify 2019-nCoV as dangerous to society and the public.
Sauce: svt.se (in Swedish)
It is the number of critical patients that is a concern, last I saw the stats it was about 20% of the infected. The world will run out of respirators quickly.
re: #60 Belafon
Maybe, but I think Biden has to pick an African American woman.
I don’t think we are at a point where Biden needs to pick a token black woman, and I hope to God that folks would be offended as hell if he did. I’d love to see him run with Kamala, but not because some focus group tells him he needs to patronize a demographic.
re: #130 Dread Pirate
It is the number of critical patients that is a concern, last I saw the stats it was about 20% of the infected. The world will run out of respirators quickly.
I think you could do it oldskool in emergencies with a bag valve mask (I seem to recall it can be used with a tracheal tube as well). Will mean a lot of medical staff worn out tho.
re: #76 GlutenFreeJesus
Nothing will stop Trump now from canceling the election all together out of “the country’s best interest”. Fucking Republicans will let him do it too.
If by some miracle we even have an election and he loses in November, I can see the next Dem administration just letting everything he’s done slide, because we need to “heal as a nation and come together”. Fuck that shit.
Nah. Picture 53 Republican senators in black prison jumpers going before the bar: “You have been found guilty of treason. The sentence is death by torture.” It would be a fitting, if perhaps fantastic, ending to this misadventure.
A lot of people feel that way. They feel that even if Trump did use the aid as leverage, it was in order to force an investigation that was needed. It was his duty to get that corruption investigated.
— Finbar McAllister (@FinbarMcAllist1) January 31, 2020
Further, these SAME people want Obama to at least serve life in prison, and preferably hang, for investigating Trump in 2016—for crimes that even if both sets are true eclipse the Bidens’ tenfold!
This is about making anything other than big-R Republicanism illegal in the USA.— (((Chrysi Cat))) [no, Karen is STILL my sister!] (@chrysicat) January 31, 2020
In the latest Wuhan Coronavirus news, Singapore has closed its border with China.
Singapore will close its borders to all new visitors from mainland China, including foreigners who have been there within the past 14 days, becoming the first Southeast Asian country to do so in a bid to stem the spread of the deadly coronavirus.
The island nation has China as one of its biggest trading partners and is a popular destination for Chinese tourists. Figures from the Singapore Tourism Board showed that 248,000 travellers from the mainland entered Singapore last November, while 3.42 million mainland Chinese tourists visited in 2018.
Czech Republic has stopped granting visas to Chinese nationals.
After schengenvisainfo.com reported that the European Union was planning to restrict visas to Chinese nationals, amid an outbreak of Coronavirus, the Czech Republic has become the first Schengen country to stop granting visas in China.
The move was announced by the Czech Foreign Minister Tomáš Petříček who said that the ministry stopped issuing visas to Chinese citizens over the Coronavirus infection and is not accepting new visa applications in China.
“Our visa centers in China are closed at the moment,” he told journalists today, explaining that the Czech Republic actually suspended the issuing of the visas on Wednesday, January 29.
My GF had already booked her April trip to Beijing when news broke of Corona.
re: #20 Joe Bacon 🌹
John Bolton better stay out of high rise buildings and he better stay away from drinking any tea…
I guarantee Bolton’s allergic to polonium.
re: #127 Dread Pirate
11:30 pm Jan 30
As of 11:20 pm Thursday, total confirmed novel coronavirus cases in China reached 8,149 with 171 deaths.
8:20 am Jan 31
China reports 9,692 confirmed cases of new coronavirus pneumonia, 213 deaths.
Mortality has been running at about 2% — which is about 20 x normal death rate from flu. EXCEPT (a thought to bring nightmares) a commenter on a coronavirus thread claimed that the mortality rate should be based on number of deaths to date compared to total cases as of 7 days earlier. Using that number, there were 844 infections as of the evening of January 23 — which means 213/844 =25%.
Again — we really don’t know the number of infections since mild cases were probably not reported, especially in the early days of the epidemic. We don’t know the accuracy of the reported deaths; one article talked of family complaints that death certificates listed pneumonia, rather than coronavirus. We don’t know how contagious it is. We are conjecturing from ignorance — though if it were highly contagious and as serious as the worst figures would suggest, there would be far more than the 9,692 cases. So I’m sticking with no more than 2%.
re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well that is some birthday present I get tomorrow.
Republicans making it clear that those motherfathers are above the law!
The outcome was inevitable. Republicans have shown over and over that their loyalty to Trump is > than their loyalty to our country.
re: #134 Chrysicat
Your last tweet is so on point. So it’s okay to get a foreign country to investigate your political opponent in exchange for foreign aid but it’s wrong to investigate Trump’s campaign when it seeks aid from a foreign entity? IOKIYAR.
re: #141 Patricia Kayden
The outcome was inevitable. Republicans have shown over and over that their loyalty to Trump is > than their loyalty to our country.
A corrupt president with no ethics, morals, or loyalty to this nation supported by a party that shares his values — that is what we face.
The Avalon column in CNNLink included the following passage:
“If a president did something that he believes will help him get elected, in the public interest, that cannot be the kind of quid pro quo that results in impeachment,” Dershowitz said on Wednesday.
With this argument, Dershowitz completely conflates a president’s self-interest with the national interest. If a president thinks “‘I’m the greatest president there ever was. If I’m not elected the national interest will suffer greatly,’” Dershowitz believes “that cannot be impeachable.”
Of course, what Dershowitz really means is that any presidential action is immune from impeachment not when a president thinks that his action is in the national interest but when a president SAYS his action is in the national interest. Lamar Alexander will be remembered as a man who sacrificed whatever remains of his integrity in the service of a traitor who has none.
So basically, a President can get away with anything so long as they have loyalists in the Senate. Pretty much renders our government useless.
re: #146 GlutenFreeJesus
So basically, a President can get away with anything so long as they have loyalists in the Senate. Pretty much renders our government useless.
The Founders were naive about factionalism sad to say.
re: #14 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well that is some birthday present I get tomorrow.
Republicans making it clear that those motherfathers are above the law!
Wishing you a Happy Birthday. And may the coming year turn out to be a better than it appears now.
Dueling headlines..if course it’s all about what sector of the economy…
“U.S. farm bankruptcy rates jumped 20% in 2019 - to an eight-year high - as financial woes in the U.S. agricultural economy continued in spite of massive federal bail-out funding,” Reuters reports.
Vs
A new CBS News poll finds 75% of U.S. adults say the economy is in good shape, the highest in almost 20 years.
re: #6 goddamnedfrank
She knows she can do that because Alexander said no. The vote counts are such that she can appear to be for witnesses when she knows the GOP is protecting Trump and preventing witnesses from being called.
It’s a sham, and it’s transparently so.
re: #149 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
Dueling headlines..if course it’s all about what sector of the economy…
Vs
Farmers are a fraction of the overall economy and job sector. It’s been declining for decades as mechanization and consolidation have changed farming forever. So, while bankruptcies are up in farming sector, the rest of the economy continues chugging along despite the tariffs that everyone is paying on imports from China.
That’s the biggest brake on economic growth and it’s a self-inflicted injury courtesy of Trump’s idiotic trade war. It’s also why the economy continues to sputter according to GDP figures.
re: #147 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
The Founders were naive about factionalism sad to say.
Nope. There isn’t any way to avoid this except to be good citizens, and they knew it. They might be surprised that we’re still around.
re: #152 lawhawk
Farmers are a fraction of the overall economy and job sector. It’s been declining for decades as mechanization and consolidation have changed farming forever. So, while bankruptcies are up in farming sector, the rest of the economy continues chugging along despite the tariffs that everyone is paying on imports from China.
That’s the biggest brake on economic growth and it’s a self-inflicted injury courtesy of Trump’s idiotic trade war. It’s also why the economy continues to sputter according to GDP figures.
Oh for certain
I especially liked the part “in spite of massive federal bail-out funding”
This is indeed a very dangerous situation in terms of our democracy, but it is still not a dictatorship. Do not minimize the power that taking back the House has given us. It has prevented more damage to healthcare & has facilitated investigations.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) January 30, 2020
re: #131 steve_davis
I don’t think we are at a point where Biden needs to pick a token black woman, and I hope to God that folks would be offended as hell if he did. I’d love to see him run with Kamala, but not because some focus group tells him he needs to patronize a demographic.
Luckily, none of the Democratic women are tokens.
Whoever made this deserves a Bell’s whisky! 😂😂😂#FridayFeeling pic.twitter.com/KxntDMFiBT
— N E W J A C K 87✪ (@PhumiNewJack) January 31, 2020
re: #156 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!
Nope. There isn’t any way to avoid this except to be good citizens, and they knew it. They might be surprised that we’re still around.
Oh yeah. I’m not giving up. I’m just stating fact. But yeah that we’ve lasted as long as we have is a minor miracle in itself
re: #159 Belafon
Luckily, none of the Democratic women are tokens.
Quite the contrary. The women except Gabbard are and were qualified.
re: #159 Belafon
Luckily, none of the Democratic women are tokens.
Also, it’s not like this isn’t the first time a VP was chosen to enhance some particular deficiency of the nominee.
re: #162 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Quite the contrary. The women except Gabbard are and were qualified.
Although we’d all like to, don’t forget Williamson.
Everybody knows it
It’s simple really.
If the trial is rigged to keep hidden the most damming, most important, most relevant evidence, then it’s not a trial.
Nor is it an acquittal.
It’s a coverup.
If this is what happens tomorrow, the Senate will be disgraced.— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) January 31, 2020
re: #165 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
Everybody knows it
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And our response should continue to be anger.
Getting away with it is not an acquittal
Any more than outlasting the statute of limitations is
“I was never convicted” will be a hell of a legacy
re: #165 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
Every lawyer who is a Senator and blocking witnesses from testifying is violating their oath and obligation as an officer of the courts to see justice done. Every member of Congress who participates in this coverup is complicit in the criminal acts carried out by Trump.
They all must be held to account. All of them.
re: #163 Belafon
Also, it’s not like this isn’t the first time a VP was chosen to enhance some particular deficiency of the nominee.
LBJ for instance.
Joe Biden himself was chosen to “balance” the Obama ticket.
re: #162 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Quite the contrary. The women except Gabbard are and were qualified.
I remain paranoid that Bernie rather than Biden gets the nom, and that if he does, he chooses Tulski as running mate, particularly since the Roganites may walk away from him if he chooses anyone else.
In toto, I don’t think I’ve ever disliked my entire slate of choices quite this much in my post-childhood lifetime.
And while we’re all mourning the Fall of the Republic™️, consider Andrew Jackson. In 1832, the Supreme Court voided the Indian Removal Act, he did it anyway (because Congress was behind it), and we recovered. The court didn’t lose its authority forever, and Congress wasn’t subservient forever.
In other news, Delaney finally dropped out.
Of course, he was polling within the MOE all along, but he stuck around longer than notables such as Kamala and Cory.
I’d also just point out that most of the military and state security services f*cking loathe the guy, which ain’t exactly ideal conditions for seizing power indefinitely. https://t.co/VjlDAfBYjZ
— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) January 30, 2020
For a country that survived the wholly necessary and tragic Civil War, to say we can’t sacrifice a corrupt and greedy official because facing the partisan divide would be too challenging is quite something. https://t.co/COYxBdfMm7
— Impeachable if Not Memorable (@FlyingMezerkis) January 31, 2020
“Did you take Professor Dershowitz’s class at Harvard Law?”
“No. That’s why my arguments are cogent.”
Here’s Chuck Schumer bodying Alan Dershowitz at the end of this morning’s news conference pic.twitter.com/ln1e13W6H7— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 30, 2020
re: #173 Chrysicat
I remain paranoid that Bernie rather than Biden gets the nom, and that if he does, he chooses Tulski as running mate, particularly since the Roganites may walk away from him if he chooses anyone else.
In toto, I don’t think I’ve ever disliked my entire slate of choices quite this much in my post-childhood lifetime.
I don’t see Bernie being able to compete successfully in diverse states.
re: #175 lawhawk
In other news, Delaney finally dropped out.
Of course, he was polling within the MOE all along, but he stuck around longer than notables such as Kamala and Cory.
Who will get the coveted Delaney endorsement?//
re: #175 lawhawk
In other news, Delaney finally dropped out.
Of course, he was polling within the MOE all along, but he stuck around longer than notables such as Kamala and Cory.
If you don’t hire any staff, you can run pretty long.
Just who we needed to chime in on impeachment, fucking Terry Bradshaw.
On Fox & Friends, Terry Bradshaw discusses impeachment and the Super Bowl: “We need a change. We need to move on as a nation. We need the football. We need everything, and get back to civility here. It’s time.” pic.twitter.com/XSeodWecJa
— Bobby Lewis (@revrrlewis) January 31, 2020
re: #44 Mike Lamb
re: #45 plansbandc
Folks it’s a marathon
We’re at mile 20
That’s where the race really starts
Your body starts to complain, no actually rebel
Your head starts to play tricks and tries to negotiate your way out of finishing
November is mile 24
The finish line is sometime after 1/20/21
re: #180 Teddy’s Person
Just who we needed to chime in on impeachment, fucking Terry Bradshaw.
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Uh no Terry. God I picked a great year to stop following the NFL.
Here’s why Parnas is so willing to sing:
Parnas cannot make a deal, according to some connected people I know, because he was involved in other crimes, some much worse than the 2019 Ukraine plot. They involve Giuliani & different/earlier extortion/bribery plots with Ukraine. Trump is involved. SDNY is all over it.
— Spiro Agnew’s Ghost (@SpiroAgnewGhost) January 29, 2020
New Recording: Ten days before they attended the exclusive dinner with Trump at his DC hotel in Apr 2018, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were part of a small group of GOP donors who had dinner with Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
All this before they ever met Giuliani.https://t.co/fEteLTRDlK— Polly Sigh (@dcpoll) January 30, 2020
BREAKING: Lev Parnas’ lawyer ties Lindsey Graham to corrupt Ukraine scheme
Graham refused to stop to speak to reporters this morning. Additionally, he’s been warning Trump to back off the Bolton bashing. Graham’s terrified of more Bolton bombshells. https://t.co/OcBGC7qJvP— Stephanie Kennedy (@WordswithSteph) January 29, 2020
re: #180 Teddy’s Person
Just who we needed to chime in on impeachment, fucking Terry Bradshaw.
We’re all united behind the fact that the Patriots aren’t in the Superbowl.
These are the people we need to support:
Almost every SQUARE foot of Senate Hart Building is taken by #SwarmTheCapitol to #RemoveTrump
America has SPOKEN #WeWantWitnesses pic.twitter.com/o3XussSxjp— Peter Morley (@morethanmySLE) January 29, 2020
I’m disturbed by the fact that the discussions have focused on one article of impeachment. Why hasn’t the obstruction article received more attention? Do the rethugs not understand that if they sanction ignoring subpoenas then a democratic president could do the same thing in the future? They are willing to reduce the power of Congress to perform oversight. And all to protect a madman.
House Republican leaders privately conceded in a closed meeting Tuesday morning that they are in the midst of a full-blown fundraising crisis, which would imperil any chance they have at regaining their majority in 2020.
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) put it bluntly: “They are kicking our ass,” he said, in a meeting at the Capitol Hill Club, the private GOP haunt around the corner from the Capitol, referring to Democrats.
Indeed, McCarthy is right. The DCCC outraised the NRCC by $40 million in 2019, and individual Democratic candidates are besting their GOP opponents at an alarming rate. Democrats currently hold a 35-seat majority in the House, and there are five vacancies. The Congressional Leadership Fund, a House GOP-aligned super PAC, raised $32.6 million in 2019, and has a $28-million cash stash.
The disparity is even more shocking because the NRCC had a record off-year fundraising haul, but the DCCC has proven much more prolific.
re: #187 Belafon
I’ve been feeling like this. Republicans face a choice. Either cross Trump and get primaried or do what they’re doing and face an angry general electorate.
re: #188 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I’ve been feeling like this. Republicans face a choice. Either cross Trump and get primaried or do what they’re doing and face an angry general electorate.
It really highlights the sad state of affairs that “do the right thing” is not even one of the choices.
re: #104 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Something something fifty state strategy.
You can’t win every seat, but you can’t win any seat you don’t compete for.
The every seat strategy
re: #189 Teddy’s Person
It really highlights the sad state of affairs that “do the right thing” is not even one of the choices.
“Do the right thing” never implied you would always get rewarded. Especialy when you set yourself up to fail.
re: #189 Teddy’s Person
It really highlights the sad state of affairs that “do the right thing” is not even one of the choices.
That’s what happens when your party gets taken over by ignorant jackasses.
re: #191 Belafon
“Do the right thing” never implied you would always get rewarded. Especialy when you set yourself up to fail.
GOP officials care about two things; tax cuts and right wing judges. Both are of course the two things their donor class benefits heavily from.
This is the disastrous future Susan Sarandon wanted.
So, the Repugs are about to let DT off, Brexit is tomorrow, and the special pizza of the day on board is pineapple.
How is your day going?
re: #187 Belafon
This understates the money available to the parties. It doesn’t include SuperPac financing, does it? And that money favors the GOP.
re: #195 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!
So, the Repugs are about to let DT off, Brexit is tomorrow, and the special pizza of the day on board is pineapple.
How is your day going?
Feels like a Monday.
re: #188 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I’ve been feeling like this. Republicans face a choice. Either cross Trump and get primaried or do what they’re doing and face an angry general electorate.
I’m fine with the latter because it will reinforce that all they did was blindly follow the former
U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data | Article [AMP] | Reuters https://t.co/uy1Yq4xF75
— Glenn Kessler (@GlennKesslerWP) January 31, 2020
I generally do not approve of folks retweeting themselves, but everything is awful and maybe you need to revisit this thread. https://t.co/wjYOVp6LGB
— Blue Heron Farm (@BlueHeronFarmTX) January 31, 2020
Blue Heron Goat Farm and Dog Rescue still in business!
I wish I could be there.
Happening right now @Remove_TrumpNow has shut down Constitution Avenue in DC near the Capitol and is holding a giant banner of & reciting Article 2 Section 4 #TrumpIsGuilty #SwarmTheSenate #WitnessesNOW #GOPCoverup pic.twitter.com/RxoZffQLdp
— ͏Postcards4USA (@postcards4USA) January 31, 2020
re: #197 Rightwingconspirator
Feels like a Monday.
To paraphrase Morrissey, every day’s like Monday.
aside from everything else that makes the impeachment process problematic is that ‘the jury’ is broken into blocs where each is coordinating and organizing their votes - through coercion, pressure and threats
goes against the oath
and how juries are supposed to work - individual votes summing to an outcome
JFC, Republicans are scum.
The administration is renaming its efforts to cut Medicaid as ‘Healthy Adult Opportunity’ grants.
Healthy Adult Opportunity = Don’t Get Sick And You’ll Be Fine
re: #205 Teddy’s Person
JFC, Republicans are scum.
The administration is renaming its efforts to cut Medicaid as ‘Healthy Adult Opportunity’ grants.
People who can’t afford to get sick have more incentive to stay healthy…
re: #206 jaunte
Healthy Adult Opportunity = Don’t Get Sick And You’ll Be Fine
And if you get sick, die fast so you don’t add bankruptcy to your troubles.
re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
People who can’t afford to get sick have more incentive to stay healthy…
Ah yes, cancer respects the invisible hand of the market economy.
re: #186 A Cranky One
I’m disturbed by the fact that the discussions have focused on one article of impeachment. Why hasn’t the obstruction article received more attention? Do the rethugs not understand that if they sanction ignoring subpoenas then a democratic president could do the same thing in the future? They are willing to reduce the power of Congress to perform oversight. And all to protect a madman.
Of course Republicans realize that a Democratic President could do the same sort of obstruction Trump has done. And if it happens, they will blow up in paroxysms of overheated hysterical outrage at a “tyrannical” Executive, and loudly demand to be allowed to exercise their “traditional” oversight roles (i.e. endless harassment via bullshit “investigations”).
All of this only convinces me that the only way any positive governance is going to be accomplished in this country is to implement the California Model nationwide, i.e. reduce Republicans to an impotent or near-impotent minority in the Legislature.
TTFN, off to teach the next generation of voters.
I suspect that’s exactly where this is going.
His wall is working out exactly as I predicted: https://t.co/K4tc9mdx0A
As in: it’s not. So, now you have to escalate, mines, barbed wire, dogs, no-man’s land, machine guns… https://t.co/h23W03LJAx— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) January 31, 2020
re: #212 The Pie Overlord!
Seizing more private land in Texas, and creating more Democratic voters.
So you’re agreeing with @SenAlexander that the House managers proved Trump engaged in an extortion scheme? That’s what he said. Which means Trump’s defenders—including you—have covered for a POTUS who has lied & engaged in wrongdoing. What an admission. McCain would be proud. https://t.co/z6O25BL4Fn
— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) January 31, 2020
Republican Senators have gone from talking about whether corruption occurred to wondering if corruption is even bad and are swiftly moving into the “cheating in elections is just good sense” phase of their moral destruction.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) January 31, 2020
re: #152 lawhawk
Farmers are a fraction of the overall economy and job sector. It’s been declining for decades as mechanization and consolidation have changed farming forever. So, while bankruptcies are up in farming sector, the rest of the economy continues chugging along despite the tariffs that everyone is paying on imports from China.
That’s the biggest brake on economic growth and it’s a self-inflicted injury courtesy of Trump’s idiotic trade war. It’s also why the economy continues to sputter according to GDP figures.
Yes, but… that whole “heartland” thing, with not a lot of people in it, that’s going to suffer. Our communities are dependent on the farm economy. Maybe not as much as in previous decades, but still.
KKXT, the KERA (NPR) spinoff radio station here in the DFW area, played “Introduction”, the first track off of Chicago’s first album (today is the birthday of the guitarist - sorry, I can’t remember his name - and the singer on “Introduction). I wonder if Snarky Puppy got their idea and sound from that song.
Mitch wants us to be mad at Lamar.
Instead, be mad at McSally, Tillis, Ernst, and Gardner, who are from purple states and bet their reelection on standing with Trump
And be mad at Collins, who only supported witnesses after Mitch gave her a hall pass
Be mad and beat them in 2020— Brian Fallon (@brianefallon) January 31, 2020
re: #27 William Lewis
I like. Run as a vet. I’d give every penny I have.
Not every penny, but I will chip in.
re: #187 Belafon
While hearing Republicans whine about their fundraising (or their election prospects in general) is always sweet music to the ears, I wouldn’t put much hope in their seriously running short of scratch by the heart of Election Season (still seven months away). One things Republicans can always manage to do is raise vast sums of money for election campaigns, if needed (and the absence of any serious enforcement of campaign-finance rules, where they even exist, make it a lot easier).
re: #221 Jay C
While hearing Republicans whine about their fundraising (or their election porspects in general) is always sweet music to the ears, I wouldn’t put much hope in their seriously running short of scratch by the heart of Election Season (still seven months away). One things Republicans can always manage to do is raise vast sums of money for election campaigns, if needed (and the absence of any serious enforcement of campaign-finance rules, where they even exist, make it a lot easier).
Agree. But we’re still on track to keep them from overwhelming us.
And what it ultimately means is that candidates can put money into ground games.
re: #185 Belafon
I was one of them.
We all need to keep calling, messaging, showing up whenever we can
re: #222 Belafon
Agree. But we’re still on track to keep them from overwhelming us.
Good. After the 2018 results, I’m not so worried about “overwhelming”, though, AFAICT, the Senate is still key to the whole thing. A Democratic President and House (however big their landslide) are still NEVER going to be seen as legitimate by the RW - still less their donors and string-pullers - and even with a one-seat Majority, a determined (R) bloc can obstruct things to a disgraceful degree.
But even with a one- or two-seat (D) Majority, I think we can make at least one Republican nightmare into reality: Citizens United-compliant campaign-finance reform.
THAT, IMO, is the first step towards implementing the California Model…..
Today, the first American monarch will be effectively crowned.
And it just amazes me the kind of twisted, fucked up precedent that’s being set.
re: #224 cat-tikvah
I was one of them.
We all need to keep calling, messaging, showing up whenever we can
Awesome.
The republican’s are assholes, but they are not very smart. They own trump. they are going to be responsible for every stupid thing he does between now and the election.
They are going to have to try and explain all the information that is going to come out between now and November. Lots if going to come out (Bolton’s book, Parnas, etc. )
Fuck trump
re: #218 Belafon
KKXT, the KERA (NPR) spinoff radio station here in the DFW area, played “Introduction”, the first track off of Chicago’s first album (today is the birthday of the guitarist - sorry, I can’t remember his name - and the singer on “Introduction). I wonder if Snarky Puppy got their idea and sound from that song.
Terry Kath!
I do bish https://t.co/rqELnPyLNb
— Ron Perlman (@perlmutations) January 31, 2020
re: #218 Belafon
KKXT, the KERA (NPR) spinoff radio station here in the DFW area, played “Introduction”, the first track off of Chicago’s first album (today is the birthday of the guitarist - sorry, I can’t remember his name - and the singer on “Introduction). I wonder if Snarky Puppy got their idea and sound from that song.
my music station too, (not currently listening though)
Last night the Pentagon revised its number up yet *again* now to *64* troops suffering traumatic brain injury from the Iranian attack. I won’t hold my breath that this is the real total.
The coverup needs to end and I’m going to keep trying to get to the bottom of it. https://t.co/GN4uUeMvF9— Bill Pascrell, Jr. (@BillPascrell) January 31, 2020
The President of the United States @realdonaldtrump refuses to take a question from @CNN and says instead, “Let’s go to a *real* network.”
Authoritarian behavior. #resist #RIPGOP @VP @SenateGOP #FreePress Art by me. #protests pic.twitter.com/CtKC2BVx37— Tony Wolf (@tonywolfness) January 31, 2020
re: #205 Teddy’s Person
Uh huh. The mantra of the GOP has always been I got mine, fuck you. I got my mistress an abortion, fuck yours, I got my health care, fuck you, I got my rent boy, fuck gays, I got my business, fuck yours, I got my money, fuck the poor. Always. That’s 100% where they come from.
re: #237 PrairieQueen
Uh huh. The mantra of the GOP has always been I got mine, fuck you. I got my mistress an abortion, fuck yours, I got my health care, fuck you, I got my rent boy, fuck gays, I got my business, fuck yours, I got my money, fuck the poor. Always. That’s 100% where they come from.
They just clothe it in “Deregulation and the Free Market are more efficient”.
re: #238 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Free Market Jesus.
Another question for you smart people - regarding the TBI reports - it seems odd that those are the ONLY reported injuries. Have there been others? Broken bones, lacerations, whatever. So many TBIs and no others?
re: #240 LadyBehir
Another question for you smart people - regarding the TBI reports - it seems odd that those are the ONLY reported injuries. Have there been others? Broken bones, lacerations, whatever. So many TBIs and no others?
I think there probably were other injuries but people are focusing on the TBIs because of Trumps stupid “headache” comments.
re: #195 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!
So, the Repugs are about to let DT off, Brexit is tomorrow, and the special pizza of the day on board is pineapple.
How is your day going?
I was talking to someone about my retirement this coming July and she very seriously told me I should postpone my retirement until after the election. This was from a woman who’s already retired, voted for Trump, and will vote for him again if she thinks the economy is still strong. Hates Hillary. She’s already planning on finding a part time job to supplement her screwed over Medicare and Social Security benefits. Seriously. I’m trying not to be filled with hatred this morning.
I really can’t argue with her about postponing retirement, but I’m also thinking about using the time between July and November to work like hell to get democrats elected.
re: #240 LadyBehir
Another question for you smart people - regarding the TBI reports - it seems odd that those are the ONLY reported injuries. Have there been others? Broken bones, lacerations, whatever. So many TBIs and no others?
I’m starting to wonder if there were fatalities and it’s been hushed hush. The way the number of injured has gone up since the initial aftermath of the air base missile strike is disturbing to me. I saw the soldiers there interviewed and they just seemed so demoralized when they were talking to CNN. I also wasn’t lost on the fact that some of them had to flee to bunkers that the Hussein regime once used.
Charlie Pierce skewers Lamar Alexander: Lamar Alexander Has Ushered in the Age of Fearful Men
Edward R. Murrow famously said we Americans are not descended from them. At some point, it appears, we evolved into them.
We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men… —Edward R. Murrow, March 9, 1954
We may not be descended from fearful people, but we certainly have evolved into them. Late Thursday night, Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, pretty much sank the effort to have witnesses testify in the impeachment trial of the president, and Alexander did so in a statement that is going to go down in the annals of unmitigated weaselspeak.
re: #242 stpaulbear
I was talking to someone about my retirement this coming July and she very seriously told me I should postpone my retirement until after the election. This was from a woman who’s already retired, voted for Trump, and will vote for him again if she thinks the economy is still strong.
This is why - no matter what Bill Maher’s flaws - I think he’s justified in rooting for a recession. If that’s the only way to save America from permanent kleptocracy and Pinochet-style dictatorship, so be it.
re: #229 I Would Prefer Not To
The republican’s are assholes, but they are not very smart. They own trump. they are going to be responsible for every stupid thing he does between now and the election.
They are going to have to try and explain all the information that is going to come out between now and November. Lots if going to come out (Bolton’s book, Parnas, etc. )
Fuck trump
I say, time for another investigation in the House Judiciary Committee, and this time, let’s subpoena John Bolton to testify. And Parnas and the rest of that crew while we’re at it.
And then, if the HJC determines it’s warranted, we impeach President Bigly Cheeseman again. After all, there’s nothing in the Constitution that says he can’t be impeached more than once.
re: #236 The Pie Overlord!
“A real one” aka one where the only dogs he likes slobber all over him. “Tell us, Mr. President, why are you so great!”
And here it is: pic.twitter.com/BqTszh2PV9
— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) January 31, 2020
re: #240 LadyBehir
Another question for you smart people - regarding the TBI reports - it seems odd that those are the ONLY reported injuries. Have there been others? Broken bones, lacerations, whatever. So many TBIs and no others?
Though official reporting doesn’t mention many, if any, injuries outside of the TBIs (or suspicions/possibilities thereof), it’s probably likely* that, given the ostensible circumstances of the Al-Asad missile attack, that the injuries sustained were caused by compression effects from the explosions rather than direct impacts. IIRC, the troops had had just enough time to evacuate to protected bunkers, while the missiles impacted - fairly precisely - on the vacated structures. Which were not too far away.
*Disclaimer: “smart” flattery aside, I know fairly little about brain injuries: and whether out of embarrassment or opsec, we have had VERY few details of what happened, just a generalized outline. Typical.
re: #249 jaunte
What a terrible position to put Zelensky in. I hope he doesn’t cave.
How Bernie Sanders Broke the Democratic Primary, by David E Burke, Wash Monthly
In fifth grade, I ran for mayor of my elementary school on what I thought was a bold, but feasible platform: getting candy sold in the student store and expanding the size of the school carnival. I wasn’t necessarily the coolest kid in school, but I was optimistic about my chances. But the moment my opponent unveiled his platform—getting basketball star Michael Jordan to visit our school—my campaign was effectively over.
My peers were so excited by the prospect of Jordan dunking on the blacktop—no matter how unlikely it was—that there was nothing I could say or do. Call the idea unrealistic and I’m a downer. Offer to bring a less famous but more attainable athlete to our school and I’m not ambitious enough. We didn’t have a debate in that election, but even if we had, I would have come off like a boring naysayer while my opponent looked like a visionary leader.
I doubt my classmate knew it at the time, but by refusing to be grounded in reality, he had effectively broken my high school’s political process. I’m afraid Bernie Sanders has done the same thing to the 2020 Democratic primary.
re: #231 The Pie Overlord!
“He might have killed someone, but he’s running for office, so you can’t convict him.” - Some defense lawyer.
re: #252 retired cynic
How Bernie Sanders Broke the Democratic Primary, by David E Burke, Wash Monthly
Naaah. It’s just white guy thing. Warren has his ideas with plans and yet far too many people dismiss her.
Good to remember:
Russian trolls posing as “resistance” accounts are spreading hopelessness to break your spirit. Don’t do their job for them.
Trump is so terrified of the election he extorted Ukraine to help him. And he’s equally terrified of ongoing investigations that will expose his crimes.— Uncle Blazer (@blakesmustache) January 31, 2020
re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg
He needs to do the right thing for his people. I think everyone will understand.
re: #246 Dr Lizardo
I say, time for another investigation in the House Judiciary Committee, and this time, let’s subpoena John Bolton to testify. And Parnas and the rest of that crew while we’re at it.
And then, if the HJC determines it’s warranted, we impeach President Bigly Cheeseman again. After all, there’s nothing in the Constitution that says he can’t be impeached more than once.
Of course the shitstorm isn’t going to stop. The gooper senators desperately want Trump to shut up and play nice now that they’ve debased themselves to protect his ass, but he won’t.
Trump, of course, will just get more blatant, and I would expect him to openly admit to more and worse shit in the next few days. Any authoritarian narcissist wants to shove his impunity in your face as a dominance marker. They can’t help it.
Rick Wilson is the enemy of our enemy and should be treated as such. That said, he knows the Republican party, and I agree with this:
1/ Every Republican senator needs to know some key, invariable facts:
The moment they vote to deny witnesses, they seal their own political fate.
The blow won’t just come from the Democrats or from outside groups.
It will come from Trump himself.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 31, 2020
re: #254 Belafon
He has some good arguments, including ours about Sanders’ record:
Of course, there was nothing in Trump’s track record to suggest that he was smarter or savvier than his opponents. Similarly, there is nothing in Sanders’s thirty-year record in Congress to suggest he can enact legislation that resembles the scale of his current proposals.
re: #240 LadyBehir
Another question for you smart people - regarding the TBI reports - it seems odd that those are the ONLY reported injuries. Have there been others? Broken bones, lacerations, whatever. So many TBIs and no others?
Our Corporate Controlled Conservative Press doesn’t give an aerodynamic intercourse aimed at Earth’s Natural Satellite about killed or wounded soldiers.
Especially the killed ones. I can vouch for that from personal experience.
I love the universe where people can write this with a straight face:
Trump is going to get acquitted tomorrow. That should make you angry. But the senate was NEVER going to get rid of him. So what do we do?
We follow the advice of Tom Nichols.
After tonight, I never want to hear another Democratic voter complain about not feeling “energized” or “heard” or “enthused” or “excited.” Vote for your primary choice, and then be ice-cold in your determination to show up at the polls and vote for the nominee, whoever it is.
— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 31, 2020
Well — the US now agrees that there is asymptomatic transmission of coronavirus. But for people who are healthy, the illness may be mild (so not a Contagion style pandemic).
From CNN:
The nation’s top infectious disease doctor says a study published Thursday night shows people can spread the Wuhan coronavirus before symptoms set in.
There’s no doubt after reading this paper that asymptomatic transmission is occurring,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “This study lays the question to rest.”
In the study, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine, German researchers described four business associates who became infected through asymptomatic transmission.“They were in workshops together, they went to the company canteen together,” Dr. Camilla Rothe, an infectious disease specialist in Germany who co-authored the paper, told CNN.
A woman from Shanghai met with German business associates at a company near Munich on January 20. The Chinese woman was healthy during her visit to Germany.
Within eight days, four employees of that company were diagnosed with Wuhan coronavirus. None of them became seriously ill, but Fauci said there was concern that they would pass along the infection to someone who could develop life-threatening complications.
Chinese health authorities said earlier this week the Wuhan coronavirus could be spread while people were asymptomatic, but the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it had not seen evidence of that.
Here’s my portrait of @charliekirk11 and @BenShapiro in the new issue of @theprospect, on newsstands and online now:https://t.co/Kvaldd8hav pic.twitter.com/OuFfblvOWE
— Eli Valley (@elivalley) January 31, 2020
One effect of Trump lobotomizing the Republican Party is a total reset to Year Zero. Imagine thinking no other president since WWII had his support. Nixon won 49 states in 1972, Reagan the same number in 1984. And it’s just erased from history. https://t.co/ET6eJqvzF6
— Mike Rothschild (@rothschildmd) January 31, 2020
I know there are people here who are leery of Never-Trump conservatives, but doesn’t it seem like they say the things Dems are far too polite/timid to utter?
The authoritarian mentality afflicts many of our fellow citizens who, contrary to their self-image, are not victims, but are victimizers who gleefully incite racism, cheer cruelty and light fire to our democratic institutions. https://t.co/mNxnZqyje0
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) January 31, 2020
re: #257 ericblair
It’s like I said before. Even AFTER acquittal, Trump won’t hesitate for one second to throw a GOP Senator under the bus if it suits him to do so.
There is never ANY reciprocal loyalty from the orange tyrant.
re: #265 Interesting Times
They are afraid of the bully called DT. I do not blame them.
re: #266 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s like I said before. Even AFTER acquittal, Trump won’t hesitate for one second to throw a GOP Senator under the bus if it suits him to do so.
There is never ANY reciprocal loyalty from the orange tyrant.
And that is what’s so utterly inexplicable. Don’t the GOP Senators grasp this simple fact?
Trump has no loyalty to anyone but himself. Not even to his own family.
Don’t they see this?
I got a nagging feeling that something bad is going to happen to Parnas and Bolton.
re: #268 Dr Lizardo
I personally think they do see it but are afraid to say or do anything because of DT.
re: #268 Dr Lizardo
And that is what’s so utterly inexplicable. Don’t the GOP Senators grasp this simple fact?
Trump has no loyalty to anyone but himself. Not even to his own family.
Don’t they see this?
They are junkies addicted to power and they will do ANYTHING to get more power!
re: #269 Joe Bacon 🌹
Well at least with Bolton his thoughts and what he has said have been (or soon will be) published. I do not know if it can be used in a court of law but it is out there.
re: #265 Interesting Times
Having lived through the evolution of LGF, I can appreciate that people can change their mind.
re: #272 PhillyPretzel
Well at least with Bolton his thoughts and what he has said have been (or soon will be) published. I do not know if it can be used in a court of law but it is out there.
Unless Trump gets his right wing goons on the courts to suppress it.
re: #273 jaunte
Yes we can. As a matter of fact women are know to do so. :)
re: #271 Joe Bacon 🌹
They are junkies addicted to power and they will do ANYTHING to get more power!
Yes, and two additional reasons. First, cowardice. Giving in to Trump means avoiding the wrath of him and his flying monkeys for one more day. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow.
Second, they are heavily compromised. This is your periodic reminder that Russian intelligence hacked both the DNC and the RNC in 2016. The DNC emails were milked for all they were worth. We have never seen the RNC emails, and I think we can all begin to imagine what’s in them. Plus, NRA was a conduit for Russian money to the GOP. They may want to forget that, but others won’t.
Yes. And that’s why Dersh got up and made an ass out of himself. Gratitude.
— Berta Massaro (@BertaMassaro) January 30, 2020
re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹
Suppress in the US yes but there are foreign publishers too. Quite a few in the UK if I recall correctly.
re: #278 PhillyPretzel
Suppress in the US yes but there are foreign publishers too. Quite a few in the UK if I recall correctly.
Speaking of the U.K. , we’re about 6 hours away from Brexit.
re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg
I am sorry to hear that. :(
re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg
Speaking of the U.K. , we’re about 7 hours away from Brexit.
Yes. Not only is today the day the US becomes a dictatorship, Midnight is when the sun finally sets on the British Empire.
re: #265 Interesting Times
“The authoritarian mentality afflicts many of our fellow citizens who, contrary to their self-image, are not victims, but are victimizers”
Weirdest thing about guns in the Kentucky Capitol: if you have one, you’re told to walk around the metal detector. Others must pass through and get wanded. pic.twitter.com/Oqxl9hvl0I
— Joe Gerth (@Joe_Gerth) January 31, 2020
re: #276 ericblair
…. This is your periodic reminder that Russian intelligence hacked both the DNC and the RNC in 2016. The DNC emails were milked for all they were worth. We have never seen the RNC emails, and I think we can all begin to imagine what’s in them. Plus, NRA was a conduit for Russian money to the GOP. They may want to forget that, but others won’t.
The DNC servers may have had inside-the-beltway type issues — but nothing criminal or truly scandalous (except to Bernie supporters). If the RNC servers were as boring, there would be no rationale for releasing them. Yes — maybe there are serious problems — or maybe there is really nothing there.
re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter
The DNC servers may have had inside-the-beltway type issues — but nothing criminal or truly scandalous (except to Bernie supporters). If the RNC servers were as boring, there would be no rationale for releasing them. Yes — maybe there are serious problems — or maybe there is really nothing there.
These are Republican officials and candidates we’re talking about. Based on the experience of the last forty years, plus the fates of the last RNC finance chairs, I’d put my money on rampant criminality.
re: #284 ericblair
These are Republican officials and candidates we’re talking about. Based on the experience of the last forty years, plus the fates of the last RNC finance chairs, I’d put my money on rampant criminality.
THIS.
re: #181 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)
expanding on the marathon metaphor, imperfect though it is:
i know i’m never gonna win a marathon.
training and racing as if i could would be delusional, and pointless.
i’d be in despair because the winners cross the finish line before i’m even half way through.
what’s ‘winning’ in this thing called politics, government and civics?
being president and ‘fixing everything’?
breaking through and recreating honest brokers and fair players?
what’s everything? and who’s gonna agree to it?
Like all us duffers in all competitions, when I race to ‘accomplish’ something, I go for personal best.
Personal best doesn’t always mean a personal record.
Often it means have I done the best I can, given the circumstances and my capabilties today. Not yesterday or tomorrow, or what I usually can do. I woke up congested, or I’ve been nursing an injury, or whatever. So, today.
It’s the same with politics. Do what you can. Do the best you can. Participate, engage. Effect the changes you think are important. Do it with the time and tools you have available. Different for everyone.
Don’t overly focus on the big world of politics and politicians - ie the race leaders. Focus on the small parts of the world you can change.
If you can look at yourself and can say “I’m doing the best I can”, that’s enough.
Greta has become a lot. Becoming a lot is not the goal. See what she did in the beginning. One person, one sign, one day.
don’t despair. Change your focus.
/rant off
re: #283 Hecuba’s daughter
The DNC servers may have had inside-the-beltway type issues — but nothing criminal or truly scandalous (except to Bernie supporters). If the RNC servers were as boring, there would be no rationale for releasing them. Yes — maybe there are serious problems — or maybe there is really nothing there.
Quite the contrary, they have interesting info but nothing that benefited the people who were releasing them. I can guarantee if you’d released emails from the RNC and elected Republicans during 2016, you would see tons of dreading Trump as a nominee and then sweating like hell after the Access Hollywood tape got out.
re: #279 Eclectic Cyborg
Speaking of the U.K. , we’re about 6 hours away from Brexit.
Time for a Scottish republic and for Ireland to unite then.
re: #268 Dr Lizardo
And that is what’s so utterly inexplicable. Don’t the GOP Senators grasp this simple fact?
Trump has no loyalty to anyone but himself. Not even to his own family.
Don’t they see this?
of course they see it
what they dont see is if they banded together as a group, they could neuter him.
you know, organize themselves
oh wait, that’s a synonym for ‘union’
re: #272 PhillyPretzel
Well at least with Bolton his thoughts and what he has said have been (or soon will be) published. I do not know if it can be used in a court of law but it is out there.
Out there is time for the election at least.
“Remember always that you and I especially, are descended from immigrants and revolutionists…We look for a younger generation that is going to be more American than we are. We are doing the best that we can and yet we can do better than that, we can do more than that, by inculcating in the boys and girls of this country today some of the underlying fundamentals, the reasons that brought our immigrant ancestors to this country, the reasons that impelled our Revolutionary ancestors to throw off a fascist yoke.”
Franklin Delano Roosevelt
April 21, 1938
to the DAR, after they had recently, via resolutions, condemned most of his major policies.
re: #290 Rightwingconspirator
Yes. And I just got a text from my ward leader. He wants me to circulate a petition. I think it is for him to be a delegate to the convention.
re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg
What a terrible position to put Zelensky in. I hope he doesn’t cave.
Maybe the EU will step up and give him sufficient aid to not need the US.
re: #293 sagehen
Maybe the EU will step up and give him sufficient aid to not need the US.
I was actually thinking about that.
BREAKING: Trump *directly* enlisted John Bolton in his efforts to pressure Ukraine, ordering him to call Zelensky and deliver Trump’s corrupt demand, NYT reports.
This happened in May. This scrambles the known timeline, as @rgoodlaw notes.
https://t.co/xwTjviKuaW pic.twitter.com/c4cr89g7c9— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 31, 2020
This will be the post-impeachment norm. More and more criminal evidence.
Bolton should just spill, but I know he won’t.
re: #273 jaunte
Having lived through the evolution of LGF, I can appreciate that people can change their mind.
really. I joined here in 2007 when things looked a lot different. But they still at least gave a reasonable argument most of the time.
re: #251 Eclectic Cyborg
What a terrible position to put Zelensky in. I hope he doesn’t cave.
they still dont get that it doesnt matter what zelensky or ukraine in general felt, thought, believed etc
the ASK was illegal all by itself.
Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
re: #295 makeitstop
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This will be the post-impeachment norm. More and more criminal evidence.
Bolton should just spill, but I know he won’t.
F*ck John Bolton, he was, is and will continue to be a horrible POS who is bad for the USA and Earth.
BREAKING: Cipollone, the man who made arguments in defense of Trump’s acquittal this week on the Senate floor was present for the first conversation when Trump asked Bolton to involve himself in the quid pro quo with Ukraine. https://t.co/RCGZyWz3ZA
— Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule) January 31, 2020
Daily bombshell number 1, for those keeping score at home.
If we get Congress in November, Roberts has to answer in person under oath for his dereliction of duty in this farce of a trial.
re: #297 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)
they still dont get that it doesnt matter what zelensky or ukraine in general felt, thought, believed etc
the ASK was illegal all by itself.
Trump wants them to manufacture dirt on his opponents; he doesn’t care if the information is true. After all, he lies about big things and small all day long. Zelensky is going to feel pressured because he needs the aid and Trump has once again shown he is immune from prosecution for his crimes. And he is converting the entire judiciary to monsters who share his - and McConnell’s - beliefs.
Er, dumb question - has the actual vote on witnesses/docs happened yet? What I’m seeing on twitter could be interpreted both ways
re: #299 b.d. (He’s Impeached)
F*ck John Bolton, he was, is and will continue to be a horrible POS who is bad for the USA and Earth.
The whole “only if I’m subpoenaed” thing tells us all we need to know about him.
re: #298 sagehen
Here in America we are descended in blood and in spirit from revolutionists and rebels - men and women who dare to dissent from accepted doctrine. As their heirs, may we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
The right wingers hate Ike but the Republican party crashes if Ike runs as a Democrat in 1952. No Ike means a permanent minority status for the GOP. He saved them from a lot of their worst impulses.
re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus
The whole “only if I’m subpoenaed” thing tells us all we need to know about him.
It’s because he wants to keep his conservative cred. With a subpoena he can be like: “hey, I didn’t want to, but they are forcing me to do this.”
re: #295 makeitstop
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This will be the post-impeachment norm. More and more criminal evidence.
Bolton should just spill, but I know he won’t.
i am now resigned to this aspect.
and fine with it
each drip will make what the senate R’s did all the more obvious and despicable
they will not be able to talk themselves out this bind because it was all right there for the asking
re: #304 GlutenFreeJesus
The whole “only if I’m subpoenaed” thing tells us all we need to know about him.
if he had any concern for the nation he’d have been banging on the door in person.
re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg
It’s because he wants to keep his conservative cred. With a subpoena he can be like: “hey, I didn’t want to, but they are forcing me to do this.”
Yeah I think he wants a role in a conservative movement post-Trump. Not going to happen, Johnny. You’ve already got the Stalinist treatment. Just do the right thing for your country’s interests rather than your ideology’s for once.
re: #306 Eclectic Cyborg
He lost those creds too.
re: #308 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)
if he had any concern for the nation he’d have been banging on the door in person.
And you know what? Money isn’t an obstacle for him. The other former aides that testified aren’t getting book details and they definitely don’t have Bolton’s net-worth either.
re: #307 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)
i am now resigned to this aspect.
and fine with it
each drip will make what the senate R’s did all the more obvious and despicable
they will not be able to talk themselves out this bind because it was all right there for the asking
If the Dems don’t take this info and use it for their campaigns………………..
Even if Trump gets acquitted the House committees can keep investigating right?
re: #312 GlutenFreeJesus
Nancy and Adam are very sharp. I am sure they have backups in case of something happening.
re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg
Keep in mind that the SDNY has some investigations going on. DT cannot avoid them.
Rubio: “Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a President from office.” https://t.co/HTr5PEMbrj
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 31, 2020
https://t.co/AVnB1kc1TV pic.twitter.com/ciut02xuAg
— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) January 31, 2020
re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg
Even if Trump gets acquitted the House committees can keep investigating right?
There’s no limit on how many times a President can be impeached.
re: #303 Interesting Times
Er, dumb question - has the actual vote on witnesses/docs happened yet? What I’m seeing on twitter could be interpreted both ways
No. Everyone is just dooming and glooming.
re: #316 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
Race to the bottom. Rubio in a sprint. https://t.co/Gma27grTcj
— Kate Brannen (@K8brannen) January 31, 2020
re: #316 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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Rubio: Just because I sold out to Trump doesn’t make me a coward.
Seriously Rubio should just resign already, he’s never going to be his party’s nominee and he’s not a leader in any way. Romney has been more courageous than Rubio and Romney protested in favor of a draft for a war he went overseas during.
re: #319 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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Obama hadn’t been impeached based on credible evidence, Senator Goalpost.
So Sasse also thinks all the charges were proven also? https://t.co/5tQL2ObTKz
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 31, 2020
These cowards should just admit it. They want rules for Republican presidents and they want rules for Democratic ones. Rubio is another Tea Party era fraud that got his political office by whining about Obama’s presidential powers and trying to discredit him and his policies left and right. And went along with the bullshit about how HRC’s emails disqualified her from the presidency but he’s fine with Trump doing it. This was never a movement concerned with the deficit. It was a bunch of reactionary douchebags and Little Marco is one of them too that couldn’t accept that a black man got elected President. The GOP’s always sucked but the mentality we’re seeing was birthed from the Tea Party shit brains like Rubio, Pompeo, Mulvaney, and countless oters.
20 people. That’s how many it’s taking to destroy our Republic today.
20 fucking spineless people.
re: #322 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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“IOKIYAR” is gonna be the epitaph on this country’s tombstone.
re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg
20 people. That’s how many it’s taking to destroy our Republic today.
20 fucking spineless people.
All for the guy who after the biggest terrorist event on our soil bragged about having the biggest building in New York City and yes I know that even that wasn’t true but it does speak to Trump’s character and who these guys are destroying our republic for.
re: #305 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
The right wingers hate Ike but the Republican party crashes if Ike runs as a Democrat in 1952. No Ike means a permanent minority status for the GOP. He saved them from a lot of their worst impulses.
that’s a big part of why he chose to run as an R, to revive them. Having recently seen what happens to countries with single-party rule, he didn’t want that to happen to us.
From a new story dated June 2014:
Sen. Marco Rubio says he’s not ready to call for the president’s impeachment after his handling of the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl — even if members of his own party, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, are bringing up the subject.
“Well, I’m not, at this point, calling for impeachment,” Rubio, a Florida Republican, told CNN on Wednesday. “The president has two years left in his term. We hope they pass quickly, that he will — that we can somehow have a majority here in the Senate so we can limit the amount of damage he’s doing to our economy and our national security.”
Rubio’s comments came after South Carolina’s Graham said Wednesday that if Obama were to release more prisoners from Guantánamo Bay without consulting with Congress, Republican lawmakers could call for his impeachment, according to The Hill. Graham’s terms of impeachment are based on language in the Defense Authorization Act that calls for the executive administration to notify Congress 30 days before a terrorist detainee is moved or released.
I can honestly say that I’ve never seen a criminal trial where the “jury” admitted out loud that they know the guy is guilty, but they don’t think it’s right to put him in jail for it.
It’s good to know that the GOP aren’t even waiting for the “acquittal” vote to happen before boasting that every one of them had their fingers crossed when they took an oath to be “impartial.”
re: #326 Targetpractice
“IOKIYAR” is gonna be the epitaph on this country’s tombstone.
The Republicans act like Hunter Biden benefiting from the same system that their sons and daughters all do- the good old boy and girl network makes Biden a criminal but then they ignore that the President’s son in law who has no diplomatic experience got put in charge of Israeli policy and also that the Trump-Kushners have made millions off this presidency. I don’t even see Hunter commenting on his father’s candidacy let alone making tons of money off of it.
Washington Post just flashed an alert that Murkowski opposes calling witnesses.
re: #332 Joe Bacon 🌹
Washington Post just flashed an alert that Murkowski opposes calling witnesses.
To the shock of absolutely no one.
re: #332 Joe Bacon 🌹
Washington Post just flashed an alert that Murkowski opposes calling witnesses.
Welp, that’s it, this farce is all but over.
Senate Chaplain reminds GOP that God is watching them, but they’re not believers.
re: #328 sagehen
that’s a big part of why he chose to run as an R, to revive them. Having recently seen what happens to countries with single-party rule, he didn’t want that to happen to us.
Yes, it was the right thing to do in light of recent history. We could have had nearly 28 years of one party presidential rule and as much as I think the GOP presidents mishandled the years leading up to the Depression, continued one party rule would not have been a good thing. He also discredited the Taftians in the process.
I wonder how much it cost to buy Murkowski off?
Benediction: “For we always, reap. what. we. sow.”
This freaking guy is amazing.— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) January 31, 2020
re: #324 Eclectic Cyborg
20 people. That’s how many it’s taking to destroy our Republic today.
20 fucking spineless people.
Everything will depend on November. But would the Democrats have a better chance against President Pence than President Trump? Is it possible that by remaining in office, Trump will offer the Democrats a better chance at winning in November? Maybe, Democrats can run on how Republicans have betrayed our nation through their cowardice. And perhaps it will lead to success.
re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it cost to buy Murkowski off?
Another bridge or two to nowhere.
re: #339 Hecuba’s daughter
Everything will depend on November. But would the Democrats have a better chance against President Pence than President Trump? Is it possible that by remaining in office, Trump will offer the Democrats a better chance at winning in November? Maybe, Democrats can run on how Republicans have betrayed our nation through their cowardice. And perhaps it will lead to success.
It’s the principle. Maybe Trump would be easier to beat than Pence at this point but that’s really not what is at stake here. It’s that Trump established a dangerous historical precedent. This is the anti 1974 where no one tells Nixon to resign for the good of the country and acknowledges he committed impeachable acts.
Schiff leading off his statement in favor of witnesses/documents by dropping the mic on the NYT story. And yes, he goes there, pointing out that Cipillone was directly referenced as being in the room while he looks across the room at the man in question. And lays it out clear as day: “The truth will come out.”
Murkowski could not take a chance on voting to call witnesses because it would put Roberts in a bind. She has proved herself a loyal Republican; party over country every time.
Republicans sold their soul for power and they will suffer the consequences.
When the Grotesque Old Pawns vote to shut down the impeachment trial, they’ll be giving Donald Trump carte blanche to do anything he wants to rig the 2020 presidential election.
If that doesn’t alarm you, you must be on really good meds.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 31, 2020
re: #346 Joe Bacon 🌹
Republicans sold their soul for power and they will suffer the consequences.
I really think so too. I know we worry about voter suppression but a lot of people are going to be pissed off. That can’t be understated.
You can tell they all know Trump is guilty as hell and they’re a bunch of craven cowards, because their attempted rationalizations are just absolutely ludicrous. https://t.co/p0ncajcapg
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 31, 2020
re: #347 Charles Johnson
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This is the day Republicans have dreamed of ever since they failed to overthrow FDR in the 30s. They will officially install Trump as Dictator For Life.
re: #349 Charles Johnson
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It only became partisan because her party treats Trump like a king. Also she should talk to Justin Amash.
re: #305 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
The right wingers hate Ike but the Republican party crashes if Ike runs as a Democrat in 1952. No Ike means a permanent minority status for the GOP. He saved them from a lot of their worst impulses.
IMO, Ike running as a Republican in 1952 let the Republicans avoid ever coming to terms with their depression-era policy failures.
re: #349 Charles Johnson
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What a bold stance.////////
re: #352 EPR-radar
IMO, Ike running as a Republican in 1952 let the Republicans avoid ever coming to terms with their depression-era policy failures.
I don’t disagree but we had no third party outside the slowly becoming Republican Dixiecrats as an alternative to the Truman-Stevenson Democrats. What you speak of certainly was an awful consequence of Ike running as a Republican.
re: #349 Charles Johnson
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The fucking GOP can run the show in the Senate. How is it possible that they couldn’t deliver a “fair” trial? That’s freaking insane.
Leaving aside the extortion for personal benefit, the Senate is voting to gut any congressional oversight. Yes, the Democratic House can go to court in an effort to enforce subpoenas, but Trump’s numbskulls can make a compelling argument that the Senate just blessed the argument that not responding to subpoenas is a proper exercise of executive privilege. Short of a court order directing otherwise, why would any President ever comply with another congressional subpoena or request for documents again? Separation of powers just blew away like a fart in the wind.
re: #337 Eclectic Cyborg
I wonder how much it cost to buy Murkowski off?
Not turning Alaska over to Putin.
re: #316 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
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i didnt know ‘best interest of the country’ was the standard
i thought it was ‘did he do it?”
re: #321 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Obama hadn’t been impeached
based on credible evidence, Senator Goalpost.
period full stop
nor has hillary, joe biden, hunter biden, etc and so forth
re: #345 Hecuba’s daughter
Murkowski could not take a chance on voting to call witnesses because it would put Roberts in a bind. She has proved herself a loyal Republican; party over country every time.
just another bit of proof that all their votes are based on a political calculus and not on justice, fairness, finding the truth, constitutionality, or any other standard of jurisprudence
This whole fiasco is going to embolden dictators worldwide and especially in teetering countries like Turkey with weakening Legislative bodies . …The 21st Century is turning out to be the era of the would-be “benevolent” dictator with a continued unfettered populist economics policy.
In other words, this is shaping up like a worldwide Mafia is taking hold, erasing 20th Century goals of statesmanship, law, and compromise. This is a winner take all situation with the blind ignorance of racism and xenophobia fueling these tax cuts for wealthy-no deficit too large-eventual rape of the middle class.
This populist uprising is going to end up costing the very people who brought it about.
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