Here’s the House Jan. 6 Committee’s Final Report (PDF)

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Here it is, folks, the whole ball of wax, all 845 pages of it. As earlier reports indicated, the many Republicans who aided in the coup attempt are getting a pass. The main focus of the report is Donald Trump, who is undoubtedly guilty — but allowing the Republican Party to escape similar accountability is a serious mistake.

And then, we have the New York Times and Maggie Haberman…

And now, we’ll see if these criminal referrals are enough to prod the Department of Justice into action, after two years of allowing this criminal president to continue spreading hatred and division.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:37:38am

I agree all the GOP assholes should be nailed for this, but if giving a few a pass will help put TFG in prison, I can live with that.

Though who the hell knows if he’ll ever see a day behind bars?

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:39:31am

Not gonna RTWT. I lost my attention span somewhere…

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:41:39am

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:44:49am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

I agree all the GOP assholes should be nailed for this, but if giving a few a pass will help put TFG in prison, I can live with that.

Though who the hell knows if he’ll ever see a day behind bars?

JAMIE: You can’t get them all.
JOSEY WALES: That’s a fact.

Why you doing it then?

I’ve got nothing better to do.

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Dr. Matt  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:45:08am

The foxtards are back to waging their “war on Xmas.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:47:33am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:48:52am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

For fuck sakes.

IT SAYS CHRIST IN THE NAME OF THE HOLIDAY, DIPSHITS!

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:48:55am

re: #5 Dr. Matt

The foxtards are back to waging their “war on Xmas.”

wah! why wont he say what i want him to say

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 10:52:02am

re: #8 Dangerman

wah! why wont he say what i want him to say

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I want Biden to say jesus, pronounced ‘hey zeus’.

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:00:04am
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:02:27am

they really dont want Kev to be speaker

Rep. Bob Good (R-VA) told Politico about the plan to deny Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) the chance to become Speaker.

Good said the “Never Kevin” members will back Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) “on the first ballot to prove McCarthy can’t get the gavel.”

“But once the second ballot is called, they’ll begin coalescing around another, unnamed* candidate—a GOP lawmaker most have already agreed upon, Good said, but will not name for fear of hurting this person’s candidacy.”

Good added that this alternative candidate “cannot be part of, and they are not part of, the effort to block McCarthy.”

*unnamed candidate probably goes by “Scalise”

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:04:43am

Your Hanukkah cultural appropriation of the Day:
Behind the hide because it is offensive as all fuck.

Click to Reveal
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:06:31am

YAY!!! It’s passed!! On to Biden to sign!

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:06:37am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:07:55am

re: #12 The Pie Overlord!

Just SMDH…These people are so obnoxious…

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:10:24am

And the hits keep on coming to Lonesome George.

‘GOP insider’ claims George Santos staffer raised money by impersonating Kevin McCarthy aide

A campaign staffer trying to raise money for Republican Representative-elect George Santos called up donors last year pretending to be Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s chief of staff, a GOP insider claims.

The source, connected closely to the New York Republican Party, told the Washington Times that Mr. McCarthy’s aides first learned of the Santos staffer’s behavior in August 2021 when a suspicious donor flagged as “unusual” the contact from Mr. McCarthy’s congressional office.

State GOP operatives found out the scheme by the Santos campaign staffer involved not only impersonating McCarthy Chief of Staff Dan Meyer but sending follow-up emails to the donors from a fake email address.

washingtontimes.com

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:11:00am

Enjoying the Pali Pastrami at the 6th Alley at Arapahoe Basin.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:11:01am
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No Malarkey!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:15:12am

Despite a razor thin majority, this has been a remarkably productive Congress. I was skeptical, but Biden proved he was able to get some bipartisan wins.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:15:56am

The plumber just left.

The cyclone cellar walls are easier to see with the sun up. The washing machine PEX pipes are the ones spraying (when I turned on the water you could see it spraying against the south foundation wall along with the ice from last night).

Unfortunately, he can’t repair it today because the PEX can’t be repaired in below-freezing temperatures (like my cellar). We are on the schedule for the first warm day above freezing after Christmas Day (25th: 43°F, 26th: 43°F, 27th: 53°F).

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Mike Lamb  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:16:45am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

Despite a razor thin majority, this has been a remarkably productive Congress. I was skeptical, but Biden proved he was able to get some bipartisan wins.

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Removing the House GOP’s ability to hold the economy hostage is a BFD.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:17:07am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

No religious test for officeholders, motherfuckers.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:17:47am

This is why I did all my grocery shopping yesterday at the kosher bodega instead of Meijer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:18:19am

re: #21 Mike Lamb

Removing the House GOP’s ability to hold the economy hostage is a BFD.

And their ability to stop aid to Ukraine. At least till the next fiscal year.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:19:05am

re: #21 Mike Lamb

Removing the House GOP’s ability to hold the economy hostage is a BFD.

Unless I’m mistaken, the debt ceiling has not been raised.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:19:33am

A little something for the lizards in the hospitality industry.

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Nyet  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:20:44am

re: #14 The Pie Overlord!

Nice t-shirt pic.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:20:48am

The Devastating New History of the Insurrection
politicalwire.com

David Remnick: “In his career as a New York real-estate shyster and tabloid denizen, then as the forty-fifth President of the United States, Trump has been the most transparent of public figures. He does little to conceal his most distinctive characteristics: his racism, misogyny, dishonesty, narcissism, incompetence, cruelty, instability, and corruption.”

“And yet what has kept Trump afloat for so long, what has helped him evade ruin and prosecution, is perhaps his most salient quality: he is shameless. That is the never-apologize-never-explain core of him. Trump is hardly the first dishonest President, the first incurious President, the first liar. But he is the most shameless. His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace…”

“Experience makes it plain that Trump will just keep going on like this, deflecting, denying, lashing out at his accusers, even if it means that he will end his days howling in a bare and echoing room. It matters little that the report shows that even members of his innermost circle, from his Attorney General to his daughter, know the depths of his vainglorious delusions. He will not repent. He will not change.”

“But the importance of the committee’s report has far less to do with the spectacle of Trump’s unravelling. Its importance resides in the establishment of a historical record, the depth of its evidence, the story it tells of a deliberate, coordinated assault on American democracy that could easily have ended with the kidnapping or assassination of senior elected officials, the emboldenment of extremist groups and militias, and, above all, a stolen election, a coup.”

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jaunte  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:23:40am

re: #28 retired cynic

“…His contrition is impossible to conceive. He is insensible to disgrace…”
Experience makes it plain that Trump will just keep going on like this, deflecting, denying, lashing out at his accusers, even if it means that he will end his days howling in a bare and echoing room.”

It remains deeply disturbing that this monstrousness is what attracts so many of his supporters.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:24:18am

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:25:32am

re: #25 No Malarkey!

Unless I’m mistaken, the debt ceiling has not been raised.

There is this October article which states

The federal debt ceiling was raised in December of 2021 by $2.5 trillion to $31.381 trillion, which is expected to last until at least July of 2023. At that point, the Treasury Department may begin using accounting tools at their disposal, called “extraordinary measures,” to avoid defaulting on the government’s obligations.

ETA: I don’t know how the costs of the Ukraine war affect this.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:27:11am

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:30:49am

re: #15 Joe Bacon

Just SMDH…These people are so obnoxious…

is this a one way street?
does it work the other way?
can we appropriate and bastardize christmas?

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:32:15am

re: #17 teleskiguy

Enjoying the Pali Pastrami at the 6th Alley at Arapahoe Basin.

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aaaah!!! don’t let it fall off the plate!!!!!

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:32:19am

re: #33 Dangerman

is this a one way street?
does it work the other way?
can we appropriate and bastardize christmas?

What’s so sad is that I’ve heard right wingers claim we already did that when it’s called Xmas… 😢

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:33:35am

Awww it’s time for another Republican Pity Party

post.news

Arizona Attorney General Election Contest DENIED!

🚨BREAKING: Mohave County Court DISMISSES @AbrahamHamadeh election contest lawsuit for Arizona Attorney General from the bench immediately following the close of the case. Per Court: “You haven’t proven your case.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:40:19am

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:40:56am

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:41:03am

re: #18 Charles Johnson

this gets thorny, though i understand exactly what they mean

‘justification’ for laws doesn’t matter.

arguing things like “texas abortion laws are forcing your religion on everyone’ are dead ends. (imo)

in the US you absolutely can 100% justify your advocacy for a law because it is based on your religious views.

what can’t happen is passing laws forcing others to practice your religion, or prevent them from practicing theirs -
ie praying
or dress
or, say, diet
or in commerce what you can’t sell, or must sell

Apparently there’s nothing inherently unconstitutional about blue laws.
Even though some religions might prefer a different day, the courts have said no, it’s uniform enough and ‘rest’ based, not religiously based, whatever the history.

There’s nothing inherently unconstitutional about allowing abortion - other than case law and a not unlimited right to privacy.

‘why’ laws are passed doesn’t matter.
What matters is whether the law is constitutional.

Laws against murder are just as valid whether they were passed because ‘the ten commandments”, or morality, or just keeping civil order.

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:45:54am

Jen Rubin:

The House committee lacked the ability to immunize witnesses to obtain cooperation. But special counsel Jack Smith, whom Attorney General Merrick Garland appointed to oversee investigations into Trump, does have that power. He will therefore be able to probe further to answer questions. For example: What communication took place between the White House and the Trump team’s “command center” at the Willard Hotel? How much did Trump know about the violent groups he was inciting?

We’re not going to see TFG indicted anytime soon.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:46:24am

Gee Lonesome George just received another hit!

George Santos Doesn’t Appear to Live in His District

New York Times: “Where Mr. Santos currently lives remains unclear, in part because he has offered conflicting accounts… Mr. Santos had also told Newsday that he would eventually move to Oyster Bay, N.Y. Instead, he appears to have settled in a house in Huntington, a town just outside his district’s boundaries.”

“Members of Congress are only required to live in the state they represent, not the district.”

The Bulwark: George Santos’s problems are just getting started.

politicalwire.com

Not even Noon on the West Coast. Expect more hits to come today…

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:47:22am
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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:48:53am

Today must be Lonesome George’s Lucky Day!

Rep.-elect George Santos’ “family firm” that supposedly managed $80 million in assets was initially registered at a gynecologist’s office in a Florida office park.

That is one of many curious details about Santos’ business dealings that TPM uncovered during an in-depth analysis this week. Santos, a New York Republican who is set to take office next month, has had aspects of his professional resume and personal biography called into question by a series of reports, including an exposé in the New York Times. Local news outlets have also been all over the sketchiness in Santos’ background for months.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:49:40am

re: #41 Joe Bacon

I mean, hell, it looks like he’s on the lam from long arm of the law in Brazil (granted, that was for a non-violent offense) but yeah, looks like George Santos - if that is indeed his real name - is gonna have one hell of a holiday weekend.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:50:09am

UPS is making deliveries. The driver has a brace on his knee. I can tell, because he’s wearing shorts. The only people out there are nutty. I’m about to be one of them. I got a call from work, with the offer of a shift as closing dishwasher today. I took it. I’m nutty. I’m going to walk to work, because I’m not nutty enough to ride my bike. They said it’s been really slow today. It will probably pick up when it warms up, which won’t be today. That’s why I took it. And I wanted to get a copy of next week’s schedule. I think I have the next 4 days off.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:52:11am
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:52:13am

re: #25 No Malarkey!

Unless I’m mistaken, the debt ceiling has not been raised.

the fight will be next summer
the D’s will say bring it on
the R’s will lose

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:53:33am

re: #41 Joe Bacon

Gee Lonesome George just received another hit!

George Santos Doesn’t Appear to Live in His District

New York Times: “Where Mr. Santos currently lives remains unclear, in part because he has offered conflicting accounts… Mr. Santos had also told Newsday that he would eventually move to Oyster Bay, N.Y. Instead, he appears to have settled in a house in Huntington, a town just outside his district’s boundaries.”

“Members of Congress are only required to live in the state they represent, not the district.”

The Bulwark: George Santos’s problems are just getting started.

politicalwire.com

Not even Noon on the West Coast. Expect more hits to come today…

It’s not that unusual for representatives to live outside their district; sometimes that was always true, other times the boundaries were redrawn.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:57:08am

We’re going to find out that George Santos is a hologram projected from an unknown source, aren’t we?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:57:08am

re: #22 No Malarkey!

No religious test for officeholders, motherfuckers.

And yet they keep applying them.

An atheist named Herb Silverman tried to become a notary public in South Carolina. The state refused because their state constitution prohibits atheists from public office. He sued (with the help of American Atheists) and won.

An atheist was elected to city council in Charlotte, North Carolina. An unreconstructed Confederate sued the city, arguing the state constitution prohibits atheists from serving in public office, and the state constitution trumps the federal one. It took almost a year of court battles for the atheist to be seated on the council, then a Christian campaign effort was launched to remove him, which was successful.

In Tennessee a couple years ago, a bill was brought forth to repeal a section of the state constitution prohibiting ministers from serving in politics (because politics will corrupt a man of the cloth—several states had that in their constitutions but all had repealed them except Tennessee). When a Democratic legislator argued that would be a good time to also repeal the unconstitutional provision banning atheists from politics, the Republican argued that shouldn’t be addressed because “there would be time for that later.”

Americans United for Separation of Church and State notes the patchwork of state constitutions and laws, county and city ordinances which prohibit atheists continue to perpetuate the stigma of atheists serving in any public position, along with the stigma that atheists cannot be moral or good citizens (those arguments were made when such laws were written).

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Jay C  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:57:31am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Isn’t whining and complaining basically what Jeremy Clarkson has been doing for his whole career?

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 11:57:38am

re: #48 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not that unusual for representatives to live outside their district; sometimes that was always true, other times the boundaries were redrawn.

Back in the 60s there was 1 Western PA Congressman who lived in Beaver County but he represented northeast Allegheny County in Congress. (Fulton)

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:01:00pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon

What’s so sad is that I’ve heard right wingers claim we already did that when it’s called Xmas… 😢

well whoever they think ‘we’ is, according to the wiki, it goes back hundreds of years

and was likely the greeks whodunit

i mean they do know the greeks had a lot to do with the early codification, right?

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:02:49pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

The one big thing DeSantis lacks is charisma. The dead tree stump I have in my yard could carry on a better conversation.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:03:52pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon

Today must be Lonesome George’s Lucky Day!

Rep.-elect George Santos’ “family firm” that supposedly managed $80 million in assets was initially registered at a gynecologist’s office in a Florida office park.

That is one of many curious details about Santos’ business dealings that TPM uncovered during an in-depth analysis this week. Santos, a New York Republican who is set to take office next month, has had aspects of his professional resume and personal biography called into question by a series of reports, including an exposé in the New York Times. Local news outlets have also been all over the sketchiness in Santos’ background for months.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Soon, we’re going to find out he’s a bunch of weasels in a trenchcoat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:05:36pm

re: #33 Dangerman

is this a one way street?
does it work the other way?
can we appropriate and bastardize christmas?

Well, you could set a cross on fire to light the world, but you might be confused with a Klansman (on second thought, they would probably approve).

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JC1  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:06:32pm

So James Watkins lied under oath.

Though a follow up question should have been: Do you know who currently posts as Q?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:10:57pm
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:12:05pm

re: #54 Belafon

The one big thing DeSantis lacks is charisma. The dead tree stump I have in my yard could carry on a better conversation.

circumstances like 2016 wont happen in 2024
partly because of that however small undertone:
no way clinton could lose to him.
look at her resume in government. look at him.

*we* won’t get fooled again. regardless of how much water the press carries for the R

plus, desantis doesnt have what trump had
heck, trump no longer has what trump had

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sagehen  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:14:16pm

re: #49 Charles Johnson

We’re going to find out that George Santos is a hologram projected from an unknown source, aren’t we?

He was grown in the same lab that makes Impossible Burgers (tm)

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:17:31pm

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:17:51pm
Donald Trump defended his dinner with Kanye West in a New York magazine interview saying that he is “overly generous.”

Said Trump: “I do that for people, sometimes at my own risk, I guess. But I do that for people. I like helping people that have difficulties in life. And I think, you know, from that standpoint, I did the right thing.”

He added: “I believe I am overly generous, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing. But sometimes it can make life a little bit more difficult.”

“Generosity. That was my first mistake!” - The Magnificent Seven, Calvera (Eli Wallach)
(he dies)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:19:12pm

The Verge (December 23, 2022)

Hackers stole encrypted LastPass password vaults, and we’re just now hearing about it

Last month, the company announced that threat actors had accessed “certain elements” of customer info. Just as many US workers are leaving for a holiday break, the company reveals that meant their encrypted passwords.

(more)

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:25:38pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:31:19pm

I’d like to take a moment and thank the lizards for helping me retain my sanity.

Okay, maybe retain is a little optimistic. But knowing there are thoughtful compassionate folks out there helps.

I send best wishes to those who are experiencing difficult family times, to those unable to be with family and to all who find being empathetic to the plight of others painful in these times.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:31:41pm

“It’s the most wonderful time of the year” (to bash atheists and liberals on Twitter).

Yeah that’s not how this works, John.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:38:05pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:43:04pm

re: #61 A Cranky One

That is probably the BEST thing to ever happen to a d*mn*d Elf on a Shelf. Freaking spy.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:46:26pm

re: #67 Belafon

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sagehen  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:47:29pm

re: #57 JC1

Dozens of select committee witnesses displayed a startling penchant for forgetfulness about one of the most memorable periods of their lives — an attempt by a sitting president who they worked for to subvert a democratically administered election.

For example, Austin Ferrer Piran Basualdo, a Trump West Wing aide, told the select committee that he didn’t remember if he was in the White House on Jan. 6 — or even in his own home.

“Do you remember being at the White House that afternoon, even if you don’t remember where exactly you were in the White House?” Basualdo was asked. “No, I do not,” he replied.

“So you don’t remember whether you were at home or at the White House in the afternoon of January 6th, 2021?” “Again, that day was very blurry.”

In another case, Wayne County, Mich., election official Monica Palmer said she couldn’t remember if Trump raised issues connected to the 2020 election when he called her in mid-November on the eve of a vote to certify the state’s results. And ex-DOJ official Ken Klukowski told the panel he couldn’t recall nearly any aspect of his conversations related to the election, despite numerous phone records and emails documenting his contacts.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:47:40pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:49:54pm

I grew up in an environment where I discussed theology with a ton of famous theologians of many faiths.

My father (PhD in ministry from Vanderbilt) asked me to promise not to argue theology in the future.

When I asked why, he replied that it’s not nice to kick out people’s crutches.

His point being that religion serves an important role in people’s lives and identity.

I met many amazing people whose lives were dictated by their beliefs and whose sacrifices to help others were beyond praise.

So while I don’t share the beliefs of many people, I stand for their rights to those beliefs and understand why religion plays an important role in many lives.

Atheists deserve that same respect.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:56:26pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not gonna keep replying to him, but I will respond with this:

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:58:45pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 23, 2022 • 12:59:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:00:44pm
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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:00:44pm

re: #68 mmmirele

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retired cynic  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:01:49pm

re: #73 Belafon

I’m not gonna keep replying to him, but I will respond with this:

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I blocked the sob.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:02:05pm

Friend posts this on Facebook and I’m laughing so damn hard I hurt myself…I know I’m bad…

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:04:47pm

re: #77 ckkatz

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That cat deserves a medal for service to humanity.

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jeffreyw  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:05:43pm

re: #73 Belafon

I’m not gonna keep replying to him, but I will respond with this:

That baby had it coming because his mother was a slut.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:06:59pm

re: #72 A Cranky One

“When I asked why, he replied that it’s not nice to kick out people’s crutches.”

I struggle with this concept because I find it easy to go from there to considering that people with intense religious faith in supernatural beings might be “differently abled” and in need of such a crutch, which feels patronizing. I mean, geez, why don’t we give them special disability stickers so they can park free on whatever day of the week.

A twist on this is thinking that some folks need to be afraid of a supernatural being in order to try to live morally. I don’t even like that thought at all.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:08:20pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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In what room does Trump keep the steam-powered headmower?

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:08:30pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

i am literally in the middle of reading Lovecraft this week

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:10:23pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:11:33pm

re: #81 jeffreyw

That baby had it coming because his mother was a slut.

She probably was thinking about returning to work. //

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:12:45pm

re: #82 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

That guy obviously isn’t afraid enough of his god.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:13:22pm

re: #85 Crush White Nationalism

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When people wish me Merry Christmas I usually respond in kind. However, when it’s said as a challenge I reply Happy Holidays. My tolerance for assholes is rapidly diminishing.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:15:25pm

Well what’s she doing there?????

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene has been vacationing in Costa Rica during one of the most consequential legislative weeks of the year

Is this the reason?

On Thursday, she finalized her divorce with her now ex-husband, Perry Greene.

So is her Sex Guru buddy with her?

businessinsider.com

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:18:39pm

re: #82 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

“When I asked why, he replied that it’s not nice to kick out people’s crutches.”

I struggle with this concept because I find it easy to go from there to considering that people with intense religious faith in supernatural beings might be “differently abled” and in need of such a crutch, which feels patronizing. I mean, geez, why don’t we give them special disability stickers so they can park free on whatever day of the week.

A twist on this is thinking that some folks need to be afraid of a supernatural being in order to try to live morally. I don’t even like that thought at all.

for me it’s more how and why people need to think what they do, though i have no desire to argue or change anyone’s mind about anything.

I care how people decide what to think.
how you develop(ed) that position.
how you make your evaluations and decisions.
The process - the critical thinking, in gathering info, acceptance of what you hear and see. (or rejection)
that, to me, is more of a window on who you are (and aren’t) than anything else.
If you come to it rationally, with something you can support, at the very least with open eyes to your limitations, then fine.

If it’s just ‘your feelings’; you believe because you know you’re right about some objective truth but you can’t actually prove it, , then i have no time for you.

in short, you can ‘believe in’ whatever magic or fantasy or beings or cosmology you want.
you can’t “believe that’ without objectively proving it the same way every other thing in your life gets proven.

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Mattand  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:20:47pm

re: #88 A Cranky One

When people wish me Merry Christmas I usually respond in kind. However, when it’s said as a challenge I reply Happy Holidays. My tolerance for assholes is rapidly diminishing.

Same here. War on Xmas idiots get a pointed “Happy Holidays.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:22:32pm
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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:24:23pm
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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:27:27pm

Putting this here in part because of the band name:

Marxist Love Disco Ensemble - Engineers

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:29:02pm

re: #82 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

A twist on this is thinking that some folks need to be afraid of a supernatural being in order to try to live morally. I don’t even like that thought at all.

“If the only thing that keeps you from raping and murdering is a belief in a deity, I absolutely don’t want you to give up that belief.”

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:30:30pm

re: #72 A Cranky One

Just a quick note:

My Dad felt that the greatest compliment he ever received was from my ex-wife who said:

Your dad is the only person I’ve met who treated everyone as Jesus in disguise.

How I wish more “Christians” followed that example.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:30:50pm

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“If the only thing that keeps you from raping and murdering is a belief in a deity, I absolutely don’t want you to give up that belief.”

Which is what I was politely saying in my first reply.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:33:21pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon

What’s so sad is that I’ve heard right wingers claim we already did that when it’s called Xmas… 😢

That’s an old John Birch trope. Claire Conner described in her biography about growing up as a Bircher.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:34:08pm

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:34:31pm

re: #12 The Pie Overlord!

“Alex, what is supersessionism?”

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:35:47pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

UPS is making deliveries. The driver has a brace on his knee. I can tell, because he’s wearing shorts. The only people out there are nutty. I’m about to be one of them. I got a call from work, with the offer of a shift as closing dishwasher today. I took it. I’m nutty. I’m going to walk to work, because I’m not nutty enough to ride my bike. They said it’s been really slow today. It will probably pick up when it warms up, which won’t be today. That’s why I took it. And I wanted to get a copy of next week’s schedule. I think I have the next 4 days off.

I tried. I went about a hundred yards, came back for Mr w’s hiking stick, named ‘Spike’ because of the point at the bottom, off of a mountain climbing ice ax (the handle is from a shovel). That got me about a block, but very slowly, so I called to say it would take me a while to get there, and the woman I spoke to said, ‘Take your time. Stay safe!’ Those last two words kept ringing in my ears, After another block, I called to say I wasn’t coming.

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(((Archangel1)))  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:39:47pm

From previous thread

re: #183 jeffreyw

Can I show that around? Fabulous job!

Thanks, and sure! :)

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:41:01pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:41:33pm
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calochortus  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:42:44pm

It has begun.
I’ve done (I hope) all the grocery shopping for tomorrow evening’s dinner and I’ve made the filling for the yule log (it needs to chill.) I think I have the complete timed list of when everything happens in the kitchen such that I get to sit around for at least half an hour or so with friends and family to hear the latest news before I disappear into the kitchen to get dinner together and onto the table.

Tomorrow we get to find out if we really can fit 14 people around the dining room table. Well, I know we can do it, but will it be comfortable?
And will it have been a good idea to brown the beef tenderloin in the oven by applying a small amount of baking soda to lower the pH so it browns without searing? America’s Test Kitchen recommends it, and I can’t resist taking a gamble on it. ;)
Despite it all, I do love Christmas Eve dinner.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:42:49pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

We have a granddog staying with us. Took her out around noon to do her business. She really tried, but with the -35 wind chills, it was difficult. Hell, I couldn’t pee in that weather.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:43:07pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

I tried. I went about a hundred yards, came back for Mr w’s hiking stick, named ‘Spike’ because of the point at the bottom, off of a mountain climbing ice ax (the handle is from a shovel). That got me about a block, but very slowly, so I called to say it would take me a while to get there, and the woman I spoke to said, ‘Take your time. Stay safe!’ Those last two words kept ringing in my ears, After another block, I called to say I wasn’t coming.

Sounds like a wise move. Even if you really worked hard and got there eventually, you would still have had to get home.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:46:25pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle is hosting Die Gnädige Frau’s family for dinner on Christmas Eve as is traditional, and things are pretty full on already.

Click to Reveal

I see many iggles in the immediate future.

Wordle 553 2/6

⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

The right starting word will leave you with exactly two possibilities for line 2.

SibData: 2,2,3,3,4

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:48:01pm

re: #107 ckkatz

Sounds like a wise move. Even if you really worked hard and got there eventually, you would still have had to get home.

That’s what I said when I told them I wasn’t coming. That I would get there, and have to turn right around and leave, because there is no way I can do that in the dark. It is so slick.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:49:18pm

On the subject of the weather: I tried to order delivery to the house tonight. The store called me to tell me they weren’t doing deliveries, and probably wouldn’t be doing them at all tonight. I’m fine with that; actually, that’s probably a good thing. The thing that bothers me is that they didn’t disable the option to order delivery. Don’t get my hopes up like that, accept an order, and then turn around and tell me that there is no delivery service at all.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:51:26pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

As my youngest daughter used to say:

It’s too slickery outside.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:51:37pm
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jeffreyw  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:54:13pm

re: #102 (((Archangel1)))

Thanks!

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:54:48pm

re: #66 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I don’t reject or accept God, Allah to Zeus, take your pick. I don’t know enough to believe, or disbelieve. Ultimately the existence/non-existence of a deity is unimportant.

What is important is how people treat each other. I reject cruelty.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 1:56:28pm

re: #108 Grunthos the Flatulent

Tomorrow’s Wordle is hosting Die Gnädige Frau’s family for dinner on Christmas Eve as is traditional, and things are pretty full on already.

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Click to Reveal

Do the sisters take turns getting the largest number? Does one never get it?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:00:18pm

re: #110 Dopamine Fish

On the subject of the weather: I tried to order delivery to the house tonight. The store called me to tell me they weren’t doing deliveries, and probably wouldn’t be doing them at all tonight. I’m fine with that; actually, that’s probably a good thing. The thing that bothers me is that they didn’t disable the option to order delivery. Don’t get my hopes up like that, accept an order, and then turn around and tell me that there is no delivery service at all.

Depending on how their web-site is programmed and maintained getting an option to even temporarily update it might not be there. Though that would probably be some good options if one was ever developing a template for a business web-site. Having some of the options for things like delivery or mail-order an fairly easy method to disable with a message if there is proper authorization.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:02:23pm

Holy Hell.

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Romantic Heretic  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:05:30pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

We had one of those here in Ontario about an hour west of Toronto.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:05:35pm

re: #96 A Cranky One

Just a quick note:

My Dad felt that the greatest compliment he ever received was from my ex-wife who said:

Your dad is the only person I’ve met who treated everyone as Jesus in disguise.

How I wish more “Christians” followed that example.

That’s lovely. Reading the messages people are leaving to my brother’s FB post about our mom passing I see the same. I know she was disappointed that none of us—her children—anchored our lives in the church as she and my dad did, but she was never insistent. She worked so hard to make her second home, the Presby church she attended, welcoming to everyone. As kids we sometimes grumbled, but there was never a Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Easter without a few folks who had nowhere else to go.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:06:24pm

re: #112 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I appreciate your digging up the reasoning behind “The Squad’s” voting. Thank you!

I guess that as long as they made their constituents happy they have fulfilled the minimum necessary for future survival. I am still reminded of the old political saying though. “If you have to explain, you’re losing.”

Also, I wanted to mention that I was very sorry to hear about the plumbing troubles you have been having to deal with. Hopefully they will be fixed soon, and without too much more aggravation and damage.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:08:58pm

Whoa. I went out to shop at around 1PM and got caught in torrential rain and gusting winds, but it was 53F. Then I walked the dog a 3:30 and it was calm and clear at about 45F. Right now I can hear the temperature dropping. There’s a low rumble. Then the wind picks up. And now snow. It’s supposed to be down to 12F tonight. I know that’s nothing to you guys in the upper midwest—it’s just the quick turnaround in temps.

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Captain Ron  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:09:53pm

re: #117 Eclectic Cyborg

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:11:22pm

re: #118 Romantic Heretic

We had one of those here in Ontario about an hour west of Toronto.

I saw the video. I have friends and family there. I’m hoping none of them were caught up in it.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:11:30pm

re: #116 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Depending on how their web-site is programmed and maintained getting an option to even temporarily update it might not be there. Though that would probably be some good options if one was ever developing a template for a business web-site. Having some of the options for things like delivery or mail-order an fairly easy method to disable with a message if there is proper authorization.

Like you, I was also thinking that this situation had not been anticipated during development. Which, as you mentioned, means that the storm becomes a learning opportunity. Hopefully the company takes that learning opportunity to improve their website.

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:13:43pm

I checked the weather to see if it will all melt tomorrow.

Forecast high: 49F
Forecast low: 49F

It will melt.

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IngisKahn  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:16:18pm

re: #122 Captain Ron

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:19:11pm

re: #126 IngisKahn

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

My thoughts exactly.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:19:23pm

Philomena strikes again:

“How many three wise men were there?” 👑 #CunkOnChristmas #iPlayer #PhilomenaCunk


..

Inevitably there are Youtube comments which demonstrate how many people miss the point.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:19:28pm

9 F and 25mph winds here in western NY state. Plenty of wood for the stove and the power is holding up,

-4 F at home north of Pittsburgh. Hopefully it eases off enough tomorrow for the cat sitter to check on Floof Cat safely.

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calochortus  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:21:08pm

re: #126 IngisKahn

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

Might be like the tule fog in CA’s Central Valley. There is always some idiot driving way too fast, but your visibility is really poor and you don’t want to hit anyone going a safe speed ahead of you, so there’s kind of a nerve wracking middle ground of being too fast for conditions, but you hope you don’t get rear ended for going too slow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:21:21pm

re: #126 IngisKahn

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

People are fucking idiots, part #1274.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:21:31pm

re: #126 IngisKahn

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

When the snowstorm was coming in here, the state legally closed all the roads. Is that something Ohio or Ontario can’t do?

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:23:00pm

Lancets are Russian ‘suicide’ drones, also known as “loitering munitions’. They are designed to fly into a target and blow up.

If this video is ‘true’, it may be showing a brand new counter-drone measure.

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dat_said  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:25:58pm

re: #126 IngisKahn

Imagine driving that fast in those conditions.

Does that mean you’re not a part of the crowd that thinks having a 4WD SUV makes you a master of all road conditions?

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:27:01pm

re: #131 Eclectic Cyborg

People are fucking idiots, part #1274.

Yup! And if these folks had just gone someplace warm and waited 48-72 hours for conditions to clear up, they would not be part of a mass-casualty cluster-fuck.

By trying to save time and money, they didn’t.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:27:54pm

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When the snowstorm was coming in here, the state legally closed all the roads. Is that something Ohio or Ontario can’t do?

The 401 a major throughfare/freeway that serves millions of people. Certain sections may be closed at times, but as far I know the whole thing has never been shut down. Most Canadians are used to driving in winter weather, but it only takes a few morons to mess everyone up.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:29:09pm

re: #134 dat_said

Does that mean you’re not a part of the crowd that thinks having a 4WD SUV makes you a master of all road conditions?

That suv might be master of most conditions. But clearly not the condition where it is caught and crushed between two far less masterful trucks.

eta - And yes, I respect that you were being sarcastic/ironic.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:31:21pm

My christmas presents to myself:

To helps my two hobbies -

I ordered a handheld light meter for my old medium format film cameras

And then I signed up for guitar lessons. 30 minutes/weekly $30/lesson I feel like I haven’t improved in a while so perhaps this will help me get better.

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calochortus  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:31:50pm

re: #137 ckkatz

That suv might be master of most conditions. But clearly not the condition where it is caught and crushed between two far less masterful trucks.

They also can’t stop any faster on a slick road than anything else can.

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William Lewis  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:32:37pm

re: #134 dat_said

Does that mean you’re not a part of the crowd that thinks having a 4WD SUV makes you a master of all road conditions?

When I was in truck driving school, they said that the only thing 4WD gets you is a longer cable to tow you back onto the road.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:42:03pm

re: #140 William Lewis

When I was in truck driving school, they said that the only thing 4WD gets you is a longer cable to tow you back onto the road.

When we bought our Suburban, Clifford the Big Red Truck, in 2001, we woke up a week later, excited that it had snowed, and went out and spent the day pulling people out of ditches and the like. Had a line of stickers of cards on the overhead, one for each rescue, until Clifford was gone :(

BTW, with Boy Scouts, disc golf, and the like, Clifford averaged 54 human miles per gallon.

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Jay C  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:42:52pm

re: #139 calochortus

They also can’t stop any faster on a slick road than anything else can.

I learned that the hard way during the Halloween Blizzard of 2011: I was driving our first Porsche Cayenne back from the Berkshires to NYC, and found out that its 4WD capabilities left a lot to be desired.

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dat_said  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:43:33pm

re: #140 William Lewis

When I was in truck driving school, they said that the only thing 4WD gets you is a longer cable to tow you back onto the road.

I have an acquaintance out by Zion NP that makes a good living when it comes to SUVs and sand.

How Much Does This Cost?

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:46:18pm

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:48:20pm

Saw it all the time in winter conditions in Illinois. An SUV would come barreling by on I-74 and a few minutes later we’d drive by in our old Accord and see them in the median or off the side of the road.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:48:47pm

That sounds very strange to me. But, I am smart enough to know that I am not smart enough to play in this arena.

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:49:46pm
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:50:59pm

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:53:24pm

re: #135 ckkatz

Yup! And if these folks had just gone someplace warm and waited 48-72 hours for conditions to clear up, they would not be part of a mass-casualty cluster-fuck.

By trying to save time and money, they didn’t.

Get-there /get-home -itis

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:54:11pm

re: #146 ckkatz

That sounds very illegal.

Intentionally manipulating stock price to benefit a third party is an attempt to rob the current owners (share holders) of value.

Why would Musk lower the value of his own asset (Tesla stock)? So I doubt the claim.

Sure, Musk is deliberately destroying the old Twitter, but it is now a private company. Tesla is still a publicly held company.

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:56:20pm

re: #147 ckkatz

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That’s why I call him Post Hoc

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:58:28pm

Marcy at emptywheel has highlighted something I and others have known for a long time: there’s a line between Cheney’s invasion of Iraq and the forever wars and the attack on the Capitol. I’ve listened to some of my veteran students as they chat and there’s a lot of “don’t trust the government” (justifiably, though their education if of course funded by the government) talk. But I think Marcy was highlighting the irony of Liz Cheney’s powerful influence over how the J6C work was done and the fact that her dad had a role in causing it.

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darthstar  Dec 23, 2022 • 2:58:53pm
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:00:22pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:01:06pm

My AI submission for the “no theme Thursday”:

We’ll see if I get another “off topic” bounce.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:02:32pm

re: #155 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My AI submission for the “no theme Thursday”:

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We’ll see if I get another “off topic” bounce.

Mike Lindell would add $50 to price of that pillow.

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:02:53pm
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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:03:30pm
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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:04:10pm

Musk orders removal of Twitter suicide prevention feature

Link

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Dangerman  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:05:15pm

re: #157 Dangerman

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But *they* won’t lift a finger to help

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aatharuv  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:05:16pm

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

That sounds very illegal.

Intentionally manipulating stock price to benefit a third party is an attempt to rob the current owners (share holders) of value.

Why would Musk lower the value of his own asset (Tesla stock)? So I doubt the claim.

Sure, Musk is deliberately destroying the old Twitter, but it is now a private company. Tesla is still a publicly held company.

There are two ways he _might_ gain, depending on how much they’re getting lowered.
- If he received shares of Tesla at a higher value, and has to sell some of it at even a lower value, he can get a tax writeoff for the losses, especially if he gains money if and when SpaceX does a secondary share sale and he sells some of the shares.
- What if he can somehow manage to get _more_ of Tesla by lowering the value of his own asset?

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ckkatz  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:10:04pm

It appears that TikTok and its parent company, ByteDance, have been using the gps on user’s phones to track them. Specifically, it was following journalists who did a story on ByteDance to see if they were physically near any ByteDance employees who could have been informants.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:11:25pm

re: #161 aatharuv

The idea of pushing down stock in order to buy more at a lower price… is not uncommon. However, it is also illegal to manipulate stocks in that manner.

And people have been prosecuted for it.

Poop and Scoop

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:13:59pm

An important Christmas information tidbit from last year:

What Are the 4 Calling Birds? Probably Not What You Think.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:16:36pm

I did research on the development of some modern postal systems for my diss. There were two main objectives for establishing the US postal service. The first was to have a monopoly to the extent possible on the transfer of economic information. It was important that news of New Orleans cotton (and other, I suppose) markets reach everyone in the east at the same time. The other was so that newspaper editors could share information (they were given special treatment) so that there would be a balance of information that reached the frontier—at least, that was the rationale. Ok, there was a third: to allow people to more economically communicate with each other, but it was a distant third over the need to control flows of information about trade and politics.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:17:27pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:18:11pm

No one wants to see libs cry and people die like Elon Musk does.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:20:04pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Makes sense for a heartless sociopath.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:26:09pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

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Ayn Rand is proud of her disciple.

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gocart mozart  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:28:13pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:31:37pm

re: #115 wrenchwench

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The wooden spoon is fairly evenly divided between the five of us, and we’ve all had our complete misses.

I think comparing our end-of-year stats will prove interesting.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:32:40pm

General comment on last night’s news coverage of the January 6 report: It’s 800 pages long; can’t they wait until they have time to read it before commenting on its contents? Maybe delay their coverage at least until Friday? There is no way they can do an adequate job probably until next week; it’s too massive of a document, isn’t it?

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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:34:32pm

re: #170 gocart mozart

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He sort of laid out the plan to go after Jack Smith and his family and his friends.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:36:03pm

re: #136 Eclectic Cyborg

The 401 a major throughfare/freeway that serves millions of people. Certain sections may be closed at times, but as far I know the whole thing has never been shut down. Most Canadians are used to driving in winter weather, but it only takes a few morons to mess everyone up.

The entire 402 and parts of the 401 have been shut down. The 402 shit down a few hours ago. The 401 more recently.

The 402 shut down for several days a few years ago and people were stranded in it for all those days because of snow drifts and accidents. I was on that road that day and opted to get off and take back roads home because the truckers were driving faster than I was comfortable with under the weather conditions. If I hadn’t gotten off, I’d have been stranded that day as well. For three days.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:37:34pm

re: #137 ckkatz

That suv might be master of most conditions. But clearly not the condition where it is caught and crushed between two far less masterful trucks.

eta - And yes, I respect that you were being sarcastic/ironic.

People in SUVs are the worst. They think because they have AWD that they are invincible. Not just crashing but from sliding off the road.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:42:09pm
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sagehen  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:43:35pm

46 more interview transcripts just released.

including Barr, Pompeo, Cippolone, Ivanka…

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gocart mozart  Dec 23, 2022 • 3:58:51pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:04:51pm
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jaunte  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:08:45pm

re: #179 Barefoot Grin

Mounting Carmel must have been his way of feeling better about himself.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:10:54pm

re: #180 jaunte

Mounting Carmel must have been his way of feeling better about himself.

I prefer chocolate fondue. Oh wait, I thought you said caramel.

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A Cranky One  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:17:04pm

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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:27:42pm

re: #105 calochortus

It has begun.
I’ve done (I hope) all the grocery shopping for tomorrow evening’s dinner and I’ve made the filling for the yule log (it needs to chill.) I think I have the complete timed list of when everything happens in the kitchen such that I get to sit around for at least half an hour or so with friends and family to hear the latest news before I disappear into the kitchen to get dinner together and onto the table.

Tomorrow we get to find out if we really can fit 14 people around the dining room table. Well, I know we can do it, but will it be comfortable?
And will it have been a good idea to brown the beef tenderloin in the oven by applying a small amount of baking soda to lower the pH so it browns without searing? America’s Test Kitchen recommends it, and I can’t resist taking a gamble on it. ;)

Despite it all, I do love Christmas Eve dinner.

We don’t do Xmas Eve dinner as She Who Must Be Obeyed does the harp thing that night. She used to 3 services on average night, but the ‘Rona has knocked it down to 1, an 8-o’clock mass.

So, tamales and salsa tomorrow night and a scratch-made cassoulet d’agneau (nom nom nom) on Xmas Day.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:30:02pm
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nines09  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:34:23pm

Republicans in disarray and why this is bad for President Biden.

December just punched me in the face.

Cooper wants to know what the hell happened.

I need spring.

I’m outta luck.

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austin_blue  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:35:23pm

re: #135 ckkatz

Yup! And if these folks had just gone someplace warm and waited 48-72 hours for conditions to clear up, they would not be part of a mass-casualty cluster-fuck.

By trying to save time and money, they didn’t.

True, but they *were* dead on time.

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Captain Ron  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:37:59pm
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:38:52pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

[Shake and Bake commercial]
“And I helped!”
[/Shake and Bake commercial]

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nines09  Dec 23, 2022 • 4:57:55pm

re: #122 Captain Ron

The 401. Ah. The memories……
Detroit to the Quebec border where it magically turns into Autoroute 20.
Pesky Kebeckers.

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calochortus  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:00:37pm

re: #183 austin_blue

We don’t do Xmas Eve dinner as She Who Must Be Obeyed does the harp thing that night. She used to 3 services on average night, but the ‘Rona has knocked it down to 1, an 8-o’clock mass.

So, tamales and salsa tomorrow night and a scratch-made cassoulet d’agneau (nom nom nom) on Xmas Day.

Sounds lovely. We do Xmas Eve because, among other things, I Don’t Cook On Christmas Day.

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Belafon  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:01:41pm

Watching It’s a Wonderful Life for the first time in a long time.

So far:
I like the maid
George is a dufus

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:02:04pm

re: #187 Captain Ron

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:04:52pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

“McGovern doesn’t seem to have a whole lot of respect for Kevin McCarthy”

Does anyone?

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nines09  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:05:40pm

In the dead of winter on the frozen tundra of northern Ontario, a small voice sings out.
kee…….kee…….keeeeeeeeeeeee………
Kee. Kee. Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee….
Kee kee kee keeeee keeee

UlFxTk1jT3FmVjVvUFBvMDRCb0FZbkVkMjYzUFlwQkp5TTdjeldQL1dubWNZWTh4OFYzaXhKOFBVZEFuNXNPMDo69OzT14iAQLEvTzD/IMGQyA==

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:07:40pm

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:09:49pm

The winds are blowing and it is 14 degrees outside. Brr.

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mmmirele  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:11:14pm

Well, here in south central Arizona, it’s actually going to warm up to a normalish temperature for Christmas, with a high of about 72. But on Wednesday and Thursday, the temps will drop into the 50s and we will get rain. In the meantime, while we will have lovely sun, we are on day two of nasty air pollution, with two more to go.

You may be surprised to learn this, but our temps have been significantly cooler this fall than last fall. In fact, my electric bill said the average temp was 67 last year and this year it was 58. I truly believe it. That said, we’re not going to go down to freezing anytime soon, which is a good thing, because the oranges need another three weeks or so on the tree.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:14:16pm
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wrenchwench  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:25:24pm

re: #198 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Mar a lago, when the walls fell.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:25:28pm

re: #184 Charles Johnson

Benjyboy does the worst impersonation of Rod Serling that I’ve ever seen.

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Joe Bacon  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:29:04pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

[Embedded content]

Has Charlie Jerk endorsed Crackhead Mike for RNC Chairman?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:33:49pm

re: #201 Joe Bacon

Has Charlie Jerk endorsed Crackhead Mike for RNC Chairman?

Nah, some other scuzzbag, one Harmeet Dhillon.

“…… Dhillon gained recognition and fame as a legal consultant for former President Donald Trump.”

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teleskiguy  Dec 23, 2022 • 5:52:33pm

re: #69 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I shirtless-old-manned his ass.


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