Seth Meyers: Ted Cruz’s Hypocrisy and Tucker Carlson’s Conspiracy Theory on Classified Docsk

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Seth takes a closer look at Trump’s supporters spreading wild conspiracy theories and claiming Trump had been vindicated after more classified documents were found at the homes of President Biden and former Vice President Mike Pence.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:35:39pm
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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:37:33pm
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Joe Bacon  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:40:58pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

If this was 40 years ago these same radical wackos would attack the Sears Catalog being full of “woke filth”.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:44:31pm

Watching Wheel of Fortune for the first time in forfuckin’ ever. Woman just won a “$7,000 shopping spree” - from ‘Car Gurus dot com’ - Pat Sajak said it was a 7,000 cash prize, but it sounds a lot like 7K off a used car from Car Gurus…

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gwangung  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:54:18pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Wonder how this bimbo would feel if she were forced to use “woke” make up all the time….

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:54:36pm

Ah, fifth grade memories.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:54:42pm

Sunrise in Kharkiv

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:55:15pm

Big day for me. It took 400 miles of driving around and over huge mountain ranges and completely around the Grand Mesa and working with a delightful after-market auto shop in Montrose, CO and the sleeved-tattooed government employee I saw in Gunnison, CO, but… I now possess an unrestricted driver license, the same one I had until I got arrested for DUI on 8 Oct. 2019. The folks that removed my interlock device from my car in Montrose, CO had the coolest shop. A little movie theater, pool table, foos ball, and even shuffleboard, right there when you walk in. Top Edge is the name of the business. They got loud car stereos, modified exhaust systems, all kinds of lights, radar detectors, specialized tires… The dude at DMV in Gunnison got me in and out of there in less than 10 minutes.

I’ve paid my debt to society.

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:55:56pm

re: #4 darthstar

Watching Wheel of Fortune for the first time in forfuckin’ ever. Woman just won a “$7,000 shopping spree” - from ‘Car Gurus dot com’ - Pat Sajak said it was a 7,000 cash prize, but it sounds a lot like 7K off a used car from Car Gurus…

Priced for the “Special ‘Wheel Of Fortune’ Discount”, no doubt: i.e. marked up $7,000 over the usual……

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:56:43pm

Getting under the elementary school desk to protect from an atomic bomb blast was the beginning of our collective loss of faith in authority. Even a fifth grader knew this was bullshit.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:57:00pm

re: #6 jaunte

Ah, fifth grade memories.

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In California we did them as “earthquake” drills but they had heavy (blast) curtains over the windows that they closed during the drills.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:58:01pm

re: #11 Captain Ron

Our schoolrooms had glass all along one wall. They didn’t bother to cover it.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:58:52pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Congratulations!

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:59:18pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

Welcome back.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 7:59:26pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

You’ve come a long way, baby

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:02:16pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:03:09pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:03:11pm

re: #6 jaunte

Ah, fifth grade memories.

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They called them earthquake drills in California, for a while. Then an earthquake drill became walking away from the building and lining up on the playground.

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:03:26pm

re: #11 Captain Ron

I grew up in CA too (SF Peninsula,) but they never called them earthquake drills. I will say that I didn’t realize until I was much older that those great blackout curtains that covered the wall-o-windows was because of the atomic blast threat and not because they were great for movies and film strips.

I don’t think anyone was particularly traumatized by them because our parents and the other adults really weren’t all that worried. Or if they were, they didn’t tell us about it.
I do know that by the time I was in 7th or 8th grade everyone knew we’d just be vaporized if there were a nuclear attack because we were close to a lot of targets.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:03:45pm

re: #6 jaunte

Ah, fifth grade memories.

I remember that scary time in October 1962. Every day during the crisis we had to practice the atomic bomb drills in 2nd grade. And they showed that Bert The Turtle Duck and Cover Film at the start of class.

Youtube Video

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:05:48pm

The last tweet is the point to me.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:06:39pm

re: #19 calochortus

We fifth graders had quite a discussion about whether we were going to be blown up with the refineries along the ship channel, or whether west Houston was just a little too far away for us to die immediately.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:08:04pm

re: #19 calochortus

In the Cuban missile crisis my mom was freaked out. We went to the Army/Navy surplus to get survival supplies. I remember the army shovel she bought. In December 1976 I broke the handle while chipping through the ice to get water from a lake in Desolation Wilderness.

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Mattand  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:09:43pm

re: #20 Joe Bacon

I remember that scary time in October 1962. Every day during the crisis we had to practice the atomic bomb drills in 2nd grade. And they showed that Bert The Turtle Duck and Cover Film at the start of class.

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I was born four years after the Missile Crisis, so I hit elementary school in 1971. I have no memory of ever doing that drill. Not sure if my school district ever held those; we were about 30 miles NW of Baltimore, so I would imagine that would be close enough to a big city to warrant it.

Still, what’s amazing is that it’s nine years between you doing that in 2nd grade and me starting kindergarten and never doing duck-and-cover. That’s not a lot of time in the scheme of things; only slightly longer than the Beatles starting to hit it big and then dissolve.

Amazing how time speeds up the older you get.

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:10:07pm

My school quit having air raid drills when I was, IIRC, in 4th grade. I suspect it was related to teachers occasionally confusing the signal for the fire drills with the one for air raid drills. While there wasn’t much to be lost by going out on the playground for an air raid drill (see the part about being vaporized where we were) going under your desk for a fire drill was a distinct hazard.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:11:52pm

re: #22 jaunte

We fifth graders had quite a discussion about whether we were going to be blown up with the refineries along the ship channel, or whether west Houston was just a little too far away for us to die immediately.

There was a science fiction movie, The Year Zero?, about atomic attack of the US. they targeted the refineries and Naval/Army base in Martinez/Concord, California where I lived. Duck and Cover here was useless.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:13:44pm

re: #17 No Malarkey!

This important thing to note about those cops being black is how quickly they were fired and charged.

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Mattand  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:14:12pm

re: #26 Captain Ron

There was a science fiction movie, The Year Zero?, about atomic attack of the US. they targeted the refineries and Naval/Army base in Martinez/Concord, California where I lived. Duck and Cover here was useless.

I was traumatized to a degree by The Day After, an ABC telemovie about nuclear war and the resulting damage. I think that was in 1983, when I was a junior in HS. Didn’t keep me up for days or anything, but it was real enough to drive home how horrible that would be.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:15:08pm

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I love John but Christians are perfectly capable of being racists. We know that from history.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:17:15pm

re: #28 Mattand

I was traumatized to a degree by The Day After, an ABC telemovie about nuclear war and the resulting damage. I think that was in 1983, when I was a junior in HS. Didn’t keep me up for days or anything, but it was real enough to drive home how horrible that would be.

Where is the comparable climate change movie? I’m pretty movie-ignorant, but did I totally miss one?

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:17:45pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

This shit was completely pulled off by the seat of my pants starting at 8 AM MST this morning with a phone call to the Colorado DMV asking “What do I do now?” (My Restricted [Interlock Only] license expired on the 31st) and just today I was like “I’ll do whatever it takes, it’s probably gonna involve too much driving.”

I drove along the north shore and some of the south shore of Blue Mesa Reservoir, Colorado’s largest body of water. I was shocked at how *LOW* it was. 30-40+ feet below the historic highs on the lake. You could PLAINLY see it, even with all the snow on the ground. The U.S. Gov’t practically drained Blue Mesa and Flaming Gorge reservoirs to shore up water on Lake Powell and Lake Mead downstream. I bore witness today to Blue Mesa, and I couldn’t believe it.

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:18:36pm

re: #28 Mattand

I was traumatized to a degree by The Day After, an ABC telemovie about nuclear war and the resulting damage. I think that was in 1983, when I was a junior in HS. Didn’t keep me up for days or anything, but it was real enough to drive home how horrible that would be.

I read Nevil Shute’s On the Beach when I was 14 or 15 and found it distressing. To think that everyone would die was…difficult.

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:20:19pm

And on that upbeat note, I’m out for the evening.
Hasta mañana.

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A Three Hour Tour  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:20:25pm

re: #24 Mattand

I was born four years after the Missile Crisis, so I hit elementary school in 1971. I have no memory of ever doing that drill. Not sure if my school district ever held those; we were about 20 miles NW of Baltimore, so I would imagine that would be close enough to a big city to warrant it.

Still, what’s amazing is that it’s nine years between you doing that in 2nd grade and me starting kindergarten and never doing duck-and-cover. That’s not a lot of time in the scheme of things; only slightly longer than the Beatles starting to hit it big and then dissolve.

Amazing how time speeds up the older you get.

I was born in ‘66 and started school in 1972 in Portsmouth, Virginia, across the river from Norfolk and never did a “duck and cover” drill in my life. Practically all the seven cities that make up Hampton Roads is a guaranteed target for a massive nuclear strike, so I guess there was no point.

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teleskiguy  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:21:28pm

No pictures. I was driving, and on, uh, a schedule, yeah…

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:22:01pm

re: #34 A Three Hour Tour

I was born in ‘66 and started school in 1972 in Portsmouth, Virginia, across the river from Norfolk and never did a “duck and cover” drill in my life. Practically all the seven cities that make up Hampton Roads is a guaranteed target for a massive nuclear strike, so I guess there was no point.

I think “duck and cover” petered out in the latter half of the 1960s.

And with that, I’m really out for the evening.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:27:02pm

I remember “air raid drills” in elementary school and junior high where we marched down to the basement and sat on the floor.

In high school I do not remember a drill of any kind, not even a fire drill. Which was insane because our school building was 8 stories high and teachers (& students too) would smoke in the stairwells.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:30:55pm

Avery Green @ aaverygreen on IG

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:32:12pm

Meme win.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:36:25pm

re: #30 wrenchwench

Where is the comparable climate change movie? I’m pretty movie-ignorant, but did I totally miss one?

the meteor movie that David Sirota wrote (Don’t Look Up) was meant to be a climate change metaphor (or is it allegory? I always get those two mixed up)

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:38:30pm

re: #38 jaunte

She’s a better guitar player than I am.

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Acemarilllion (yes, three 'l's)  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:40:30pm

I’m just along for the ride. Sometimes the ads just baffle me.

Tommy James - Draggin’ the Line (Dick Clark Show 1972)

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:43:04pm
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sizzzzlerz  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:46:01pm

re: #8 teleskiguy

I find it hard to celebrate a convicted drunk driver getting their license restored. Being the victim of one, I would suggest that they never be allowed to drive again. Since thats beyond my powers, I can only hope you use this reprieve as a reminder that your decision to drive drunk can impact the lives of people you don’t even know. Safe and sober driving.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:50:10pm

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:50:40pm

There are two new TV shows that seem good. Poker Face with the woman from Russian Doll. Wolf Pack is about werewolves.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:54:54pm

re: #9 Jay C

Priced for the “Special Wheel Of Fortune Discount”, no doubt: i.e. marked up $7,000 over the usual……

And what can that “Special Wheel Of Fortune $7,000 Discount” buy in a car lot?

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2023 • 8:59:32pm

Avoid the cloth and progress, panners of gold when you meet the predatory birds of Philadelphia.

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:09:34pm

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:14:45pm

re: #49 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:16:15pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:20:15pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:25:54pm

re: #51 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:27:17pm

re: #53 wrenchwench

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:37:41pm

re: #54 retired cynic

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retired cynic  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:39:02pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

LOL! Really glad to hear from you.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:43:42pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:51:01pm

Today’s headline in the local newspaper (SDUT) is about the fact that house prices in San Diego County have come down from their highs of last spring.

Though the reality is that YoY prices are still up - spring is the usual peak of prices.

Anyway, given that AI is getting to where we don’t have to have our own brains anymore, I asked the OpenAI chat tool a question, and it gave me an answer:

AI response to house price relationship to TV
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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2023 • 9:53:40pm

re: #58 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Today’s headline in the local newspaper (SDUT) is about the fact that house prices in San Diego County have come down from their highs of last spring.

Though the reality is that YoY prices are still up - spring is the usual peak of prices.

Anyway, given that AI is getting to where we don’t have to have our own brains anymore, I asked the OpenAI chat tool a question, and it gave me an answer:

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Teach it the word ‘dialectic’.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 10:14:11pm
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Belafon  Jan 26, 2023 • 10:58:09pm

This person showed up on my twitter feed:

You can read her pinned tweet to learn about the brain disease she suffered which caused some paralysis and the need for a cane.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 26, 2023 • 10:59:28pm
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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 11:10:32pm

Life’s been good to me, so far.

H/t Joe Walsh

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 11:14:02pm

...

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2023 • 11:15:48pm
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Captain Ron  Jan 27, 2023 • 12:18:12am

In the Garden of Eden - Iron butterfly. I think I went 30 years before I found out.

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Captain Ron  Jan 27, 2023 • 12:26:16am
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Captain Ron  Jan 27, 2023 • 12:35:23am

re: #67 Captain Ron

Refresh for the correct version.

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Captain Ron  Jan 27, 2023 • 1:51:08am

I killed the night shift.

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Captain Ron  Jan 27, 2023 • 1:52:38am

Oh fuck, it’s almost 2 AM and I still haven’t watched Mayfair Witches. Can I stay awake to watch it now?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2023 • 1:56:46am

Talking to yourself, Ron?

Where’s Anymouse when you need him?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:00:33am

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Godless fucking racists call anything that isn’t racist “woke” while pretending they are “Christian.”

or anything to do with saving energy, protecting the environment or leading a healthy lifestyle.

“Now get outta my way, I am gonna go turn on my gas stove, get in my monster truck and roll coal through the nearest Burger Kind drive thru…there are libruls out there that need owning!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:03:18am

re: #20 Joe Bacon

I remember that scary time in October 1962. Every day during the crisis we had to practice the atomic bomb drills in 2nd grade. And they showed that Bert The Turtle Duck and Cover Film at the start of class.

I remember seeing ads for backyard bomb shelters and bugging my dad to build one. Not that really understood what they really were about, I just thought they would make a cool hideout.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:05:53am

re: #28 Mattand

I was traumatized to a degree by The Day After, an ABC telemovie about nuclear war and the resulting damage. I think that was in 1983, when I was a junior in HS. Didn’t keep me up for days or anything, but it was real enough to drive home how horrible that would be.

It seems to have done that for a lot of people. I was already aware of what WW3 would mean in real terms at that point, but it was amazing how many people simply did not grasp the consequences of even a “limited” nuclear exchange, much less a MAD nuclear free-for-all Armageddonfest.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:09:38am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It seems to have done that for a lot of people. I was already aware of what WW3 would mean in real term at that point, but it was amazing how many people simply did not grasp the consequences of even a “limited” nuclear exchange, much less a MAD nuclear free-for-all Armageddonfest.

I pretty much didn’t worry about it since I pretty much lived my entire life within a few miles of what was essentially a major industrial target. My father worked for ALCOA, so it was near a major aluminum smelting operation and the nearby related industries that were there to use the aluminum.

After college it was pretty much close enough to either Pittsburgh or Philadelphia and thus in a high value target area still.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:12:02am

re: #61 Belafon

I WILL NOT DEFEND HAVING TO WEAR CROCS WITH GLAMOROUS DRESSES AGAIN. MY LEG IS PARALYSED. CROCS ARE THE ONLY SHOE THAT FIT ON MY ORTHOTIC LEG. YOUR OPINION ON HOW THIS LOOKS IS VOID

she is da bomb even in crocs

still, our contemporary “beauty standards” seem to involve comparing real-life people with an unrealizable ideal that can only be achieved by a ton of Photoshop

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:14:33am

re: #75 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I pretty much didn’t worry about it since I pretty much lived my entire life within a few miles of what was essentially a major industrial target. …

After college it was pretty much close enough to either Pittsburgh or Philadelphia and thus in a high value target area still.

Ditto, I grew up near the steel plants along the southern tip of lake Michigan, then moved to Phoenix east of Luke Air Force Base and then Tucson, right next to Davis-Mounthan Air Force Base.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:32:57am

re: #73 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I remember seeing ads for backyard bomb shelters and bugging my dad to build one. Not that really understood what they really were about, I just thought they would make a cool hideout.

Friend of mine up in Vancouver, WA actually had an underground bomb shelter in the backyard of her home. It was pretty cool.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:34:36am

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

Friend of mine up in Vancouver, WA actually had a backyard underground bomb shelter in the backyard of her home. It was pretty cool.

We had to dig our own underground bunkers in the woods.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:40:12am
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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:49:17am
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dharmamark  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:59:23am

re: #12 jaunte

In Nebraska, we doubled them as tornado drills and went into the hallway.

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dharmamark  Jan 27, 2023 • 2:59:52am

re: #8 teleskiguy

Congrats, man!

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 27, 2023 • 3:38:34am

Some of my drive time music:

Genesis Owusu - Get Inspired (Official Audio)

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2023 • 3:50:25am
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TarHellion  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:15:40am

The GQP march toward fascism continues…

“PHOENIX — Arizona Republicans shielded legislators from the state’s open-records law this week — a move that comes months after the release of thousands of documents detailing extensive efforts to undermine Joe Biden’s victory here in the 2020 presidential election.

Documents that have surfaced over the past two years include correspondence describing the inner workings of a partisan review of the 2020 election by the Cyber Ninjas, as well as emails by Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, urging lawmakers to overturn President Donald Trump’s narrow defeat in the state.

The new rules will greatly limit the public release of lawmakers’ communications. State senators will not have to disclose any text messages sent on personal devices, even when dealing with state business. For lawmakers in both the Senate and the House, emails and other documents will be destroyed after 90 days — in many cases, well before members of the public know to ask for them.

“I think it is petty, vindictive and contrary to the plain interests of transparency and government accountability in Arizona,” said David Bodney, a lawyer who has represented the Arizona Republic in open-records litigation over the 2020 election review.

Ordinarily, Arizona officials must retain most public records indefinitely and release them when someone asks for them. Seizing on a recent state Supreme Court ruling, the lawmakers on Tuesday and Wednesday adopted rules that set limited standards for when they must make documents public. Capitol Media Services first reported the rule changes.

Last month, the Arizona Supreme Court ruled it had no power to enforce the state’s open-meetings law when it came to legislators. The ruling appeared to clear the way for the legislature, narrowly led by Republicans, to set its own transparency policies, which it has promptly done.

The liberal group American Oversight used Arizona’s records law to uncover the way Republicans conducted the 2020 election review, which was overseen by Cyber Ninjas, a secretive group that had never before analyzed an election. Without those records, the public wouldn’t know as much as it does, said Heather Sawyer, American Oversight’s executive director.

“It does seem like they’re just trying to find a way to be able to operate in the dark, which is incredibly anti-democratic. It’s anti-American, quite frankly,” Sawyer said. The rule change benefits all lawmakers at the expense of ordinary voters of all political stripes, she said; Arizonans won’t be able to find out what legislators are doing behind the scenes, whether they’re Democrats or Republicans.

“It is one of the things that sets us apart from autocracies, that we require our public officials to be accountable to the people they serve,” she said.

Brendan Fischer, the deputy executive director of the group Documented, argued the rules will “further obscure the roles of far-right national groups” that seek to influence the legislature.

Members of Congress long ago exempted themselves from the federal Freedom of Information Act, so their emails, text messages and other communications generally aren’t available to the public. Many states have taken a different approach and subjected their lawmakers to records laws so the public can more fully judge the work they’re doing.

The precise rules differ by state, with records readily available in some states and difficult to get in others. Some states provide loopholes for lawmakers that aren’t available for other officials. For instance, in Wisconsin, lawmakers are not required to retain their records, allowing them to delete sensitive emails and text messages before anyone in the public asks for them.

The rule change in Arizona will restrict the public’s access to lawmakers’ correspondence under a law that dates to 1901 and is intended to bolster public access to information about how elected officials and government workers operate.

The law allows constituents, reporters, lawyers and others to request paper documents, emails, text messages, video and audio recordings, government reports and communications about publicly funded activities, no matter the device. Generally, the public has the right to review or obtain the records but sometimes must pay for them.

The move comes after Republican lawmakers, who hold one-vote majorities in each chamber, fielded requests for records from state lawmakers and Capitol aides involving efforts to either overturn the 2020 election or question the results.”

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steve_davis  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:33:06am

re: #34 A Three Hour Tour

I was born in ‘66 and started school in 1972 in Portsmouth, Virginia, across the river from Norfolk and never did a “duck and cover” drill in my life. Practically all the seven cities that make up Hampton Roads is a guaranteed target for a massive nuclear strike, so I guess there was no point.

born almost in ‘66. never did a duck and cover. teachers just said, “this is south carolina. it’s what a nuclear bomb would do to the rest of the country. so the russkies aren’t bothering us.”

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:35:42am

re: #86 TarHellion

That’s pretty awful but to be expected.

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:38:07am

New vid at Candyrat:

Adrian Cross - Seafarer

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:48:37am

In ‘62 we were loaded into military transports at Baumholder along with all the other dependent families while our dads grabbed their duffels and headed to their tanks. We never rolled out, but we sat a few hours ready to evacuate.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:15:06am
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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:16:12am

From a long over dead thread, I saw this, re: Russia apparently dipping into WWII era stocks of weapons, like T-34 tanks:

re: #159 Romantic Heretic

Seriously?

If I was playing War Thunder, chose a T34/76, and had Leopard 2s or even M48s show up on the opposing team I’d quit in a second. Everything in my arsenal would probably bounce and they’s one shot me.

It’s as though none of these Russians ever played World of Tanks, or studied any military history or logistics or basic weapons identification.

A T-34 on the battlefield is equivalent to a Ronson lighter. Hit once, and turret goes pop every damn time. Every other modern battlefield tank would be able to out-hit, out maneuver, and outlast any T-34 tank. That Russia is even considering this shows how desperate they are to avoid admitting that even their most modern tank is unavailable - the Armata. They don’t want those going into battle, especially against Abrams or Leopards because all of their failings will be quickly identified and render the tank as worthless on the international market too.

Putin’s done more to hollow out the Russian military than anyone, and his continued efforts to commit war crimes and genocide in Ukraine cannot go unpunished. He must be held to account.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:17:44am

Geez, poor guy…

Jay Leno reportedly suffers broken bones in motorcycle accident months after garage fire
The comedian, who sustained serious burns after his vintage car erupted in flames Nov. 12 in his Los Angeles garage, reveals he was knocked off his bike Jan. 17.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:19:06am

re: #93 Rightwingconspirator

That may leave a mark at Jays age.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:22:18am

re: #71 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Talking to yourself, Ron?

Where’s Anymouse when you need him?

He hasn’t been around since Monday. Hope he is fine.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:22:23am

re: #93 Rightwingconspirator

Geez, poor guy…

Jay Leno reportedly suffers broken bones in motorcycle accident months after garage fire
The comedian, who sustained serious burns after his vintage car erupted in flames Nov. 12 in his Los Angeles garage, reveals he was knocked off his bike Jan. 17.

So many assholes in this world.

“So I turned down a side street and cut through a parking lot, and unbeknownst to me, some guy had a wire strung across the parking lot but with no flag hanging from it,” Leno told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “So, you know, I didn’t see it until it was too late. It just clothesline, me and, boom, knocked me off the bike.”

I worked with a guy years ago who’s son was decapitated when their neighbor strung up a cable across a trail the son was riding his snowmobile on. The father eventually crawled into a sleeping bag and put a bullet in his head.

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:23:39am

re: #90 Thanos

In ‘62 we were loaded into military transports at Baumholder along with all the other dependent families while our dads grabbed their duffels and headed to their tanks. We never rolled out, but we sat a few hours ready to evacuate.

Not so funny but funny story: My grandmother who had grown up during the depression was living with us at the time, and when we were sent back to our base housing she unpacked her suitcase full of dry and canned goods from the cupboards.

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:24:28am

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

He hasn’t been around since Monday. Hope he is fine.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:26:22am

re: #98 sagehen

He just got a new computer, might be having trouble with it. Or the timing of the site problems might have made him think there’s trouble with his new computer.

I had forgotten his new computer. You are so right.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:28:22am

re: #92 lawhawk

From a long over dead thread, I saw this, re: Russia apparently dipping into WWII era stocks of weapons, like T-34 tanks:

I find that difficult to believe, I would be less skeptical if they were using older postwar models like a T-54 but I do not think Russia is that desperate.

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:28:50am

re: #92 lawhawk

From a long over dead thread, I saw this, re: Russia apparently dipping into WWII era stocks of weapons, like T-34 tanks:

No they aren’t. Russia has a museum collection of T-34 tanks it uses in memorial parades such as May Day. They buy up old T-34s other countries are getting rid of for this purpose, for spare parts and runner models. The US does the same with Naval vessels for museum purposes, (fewer but more expensive per item than T-34s) but it’s very unlikely that the USS Texas is going to go sailing into battle ever again.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:29:35am

re: #100 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I find that difficult to believe, I would be less skeptical if they were using older postwar models like a T-54 but I do not think Russia is that desperate.

I think it was said elsewhere that Russia was getting them back, but they are expected to go to museums or static displays, not to be used in active combat.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:30:38am

I stand corrected if that was not the case about the T-34 tanks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:31:37am

I wouldn’t doubt that the Chinese are mass producing some tanks for Russia.

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:36:03am

Morning Joe is broadcasting from Auschwitz today for Holocaust Remembrance Day, lots of 3-5 minute featurettes and interviews.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:38:30am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:42:32am

re: #86 TarHellion

Transparency for thee (if you’re a Democrat) not for me, since republican.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:45:19am

re: #98 sagehen

He just got a new computer, might be having trouble with it. Or the timing of the site problems might have made him think there’s trouble with his new computer.

Or the new and improved website performance may not have reached Nebraska yet //

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TarHellion  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:48:13am

After getting skunked on Guess 1, more than happy to slink away with par. So glad it is Friday. Finally wrapping up some annual reports for the state. Some departments are so easy to write up, but these might as well be reports compiled back in the 1800s. Just silly, stupid stuff that they want, so it can tossed away into some file that will never see the light of day. OK, jumping off the soap box. Have a great Friday everyone!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2023 • 5:58:03am

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

He hasn’t been around since Monday. Hope he is fine.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:04:49am

re: #12 jaunte

Our schoolrooms had glass all along one wall. They didn’t bother to cover it.

They took us into the gym locker rooms (boys and girls respectively) and we crouched along the walls without windows. There were only a couple small windows high up on one outside wall.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:05:05am

😄

Mastodon

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steve_davis  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:09:35am

and season 4 of the Rocco Schiavone series has popped up on PBS, so yes, there’s 6 bucks I’m happy to shell out on Amazon for that. I just love the character.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:09:47am

re: #86 TarHellion

The identity of one of the largest benefactors behind the discredited review of Arizona’s vote count has been shrouded in secrecy. Now the Guardian can reveal that the person who partially bankrolled the failed attempt to prove that the election was stolen from Trump was… Trump.”

Link

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:13:27am

re: #112 Eventual Carrion

They took us into the gym locker rooms (boys and girls respectively) and we crouched along the walls without windows. There were only a couple small windows high up on one outside wall.

Our “duck and cover” drills were in our classrooms. I don’t recall ever believing that these actions would protect us in the event of an actual nuclear attack.

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:13:47am

re: #44 sizzzzlerz

Yeah, I’m a fucking asshole piece of shit degenerate drunk driver, always have been, always will be, I guess. Maybe I should get that fact tattooed on my forehead.

I’m genuinely sorry you got hurt by a drunk driver. Truly. But this comment makes me want to KMS.

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:14:54am

Almost 40 months sober, B T W

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:17:13am

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Our “duck and cover” drills were in our classrooms. I don’t recall ever believing that these actions would protect us in the event of an actual nuclear attack.

They just wanted us to die on our knees…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:17:23am

Say kids!

How corrupt was ol big fat Barr?

From Talking Points Memo today!

It turns out Bill Barr and John Durham were sipping scotch as they burned down Main Justice.

Extraordinary new reporting from the New York Times peels back more layers of corruption, malfeasance, and politicization within the Barr Justice Department. In a groundbreaking story that is focused on Special Counsel John Durham but is really an indictment of Barr, the NYT unveils several previously unreported episodes:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Bottom line—Barr made Alberto Gonzalez look like Elliot Ness.

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teleskiguy  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:17:43am

I’mma step away for a while…

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:17:53am
federal prosecutors in New York discussed whether to potentially charge Trump with campaign finance crimes once he was out of office, according to a new book from CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig,” CNN reports.

“Prosecutors from the Southern District of New York developed significant evidence against Trump when they charged his former attorney Michael Cohen in 2018 over a hush money scheme paying two women claiming affairs with Trump, including adult film star Stormy Daniels, Honig writes. But prosecutors did not consider charging Trump at the time because of longstanding Justice Department guidance that a sitting president cannot be indicted.”

“With Trump about to leave office in January 2021, however, Audrey Strauss, the acting US attorney, held multiple discussions with a small group of prosecutors to discuss its evidence against Trump. They decided to not seek an indictment Trump for several reasons, Honig writes, including the political ramifications and the fact that Trump’s other scandals, such as efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election and the January 6, 2021, insurrection, ‘made the campaign finance violations seem somehow trivial and outdated by comparison.’”

“Not charging someone who has committed a crime because it might appear political is the ultimate politicization of the justice system.”

or if you prefer

“He did more serious crimes that he probably won’t be prosecuted for so let’s not prosecute him for the less serious ones.” You can’t make this shit up.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:20:07am

FAUX keeps on lying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:21:00am

Trump is not going to serve any time. Worst-case scenario for him is to go bankrupt again but then he can live off of ghostwritten books and speeches and appearances while anyone who did business with him takes a loss.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:21:59am

re: #120 Joe Bacon

Say kids!

How corrupt was ol big fat Barr?

From Talking Points Memo today!

It turns out Bill Barr and John Durham were sipping scotch as they burned down Main Justice.

Extraordinary new reporting from the New York Times peels back more layers of corruption, malfeasance, and politicization within the Barr Justice Department. In a groundbreaking story that is focused on Special Counsel John Durham but is really an indictment of Barr, the NYT unveils several previously unreported episodes:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Bottom line—Barr made Alberto Gonzalez look like Elliot Ness.

Everything GOPers are claiming occurs in Biden’s admin re: DOJ and Merrick Garland is exactly what was documented as happening under Trump and his parade of criminal cronies from Barr to Whitaker and Durham.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:22:41am

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Our “duck and cover” drills were in our classrooms. I don’t recall ever believing that these actions would protect us in the event of an actual nuclear attack.

“We bomb at 12 o’clock Ivan. They don’t know. They think the siren is lunch”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:22:41am

re: #123 Joe Bacon

As Tucker nods along, Rep. Ken Buck makes up a claim about Google changing its algorithm during the 2020 election to help Biden and hurt Trump.

So along with the Ministry of Fairness and Balance and the Ministry of Platforming we also need a Ministry of Algorithmization!!!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:23:02am

re: #125 lawhawk

Everything GOPers are claiming occurs in Biden’s admin re: DOJ and Merrick Garland is exactly what was documented as happening under Trump and his parade of criminal cronies from Barr to Whitaker and Durham.

Standard DARVO: accuse the other side of the crimes you are committing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:23:16am

re: #126 Dangerman

“We bomb at 12 o’clock Ivan. They don’t know. They think the siren is lunch”

“Egermency, egermency! Please to be getting from street!!!”

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:23:22am

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

He hasn’t been around since Monday. Hope he is fine.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:27:11am

GMA had a story about a guy they arrested who killed a Microsoft executive last year. The police don’t believe he acted alone. One detail about the killer: he lived for the last year in a house owned by the ex-wife of the executive.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:27:23am

re: #117 teleskiguy

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:32:00am

news5cleveland.com

‘Chaos’: Ohio GOP legislators fuming after public floor fight

Republicans in the Ohio House can’t stop fighting with each other.

After the past few contentious years in the state, it’s not uncommon to see a scuffle on the House floor. What isn’t common is that a public fight took place between members of the same party.

Since the beginning of the year, the House Republican Caucus has been split in two.

Back in November, the GOP caucus voted for Derek Merrin (R-Monclova) to be speaker. But during the full House vote in December, more moderate state Rep. Jason Stephens (R-Kitts Hill) won after he collaborated with the Democrats.

Just wondering when the New York Times is going back to that same rural Ohio diner to talk to the same 12 Ohio Republicans about how the Democrats are in disarray….

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:33:46am
To my knowledge, hardly any of the New York members speak with him. There’s really nothing to speak about. He’s a totally untrustworthy individual who has broken the public’s trust… He’s become an embarrassment. He’s become a joke.”

— Rep. Nick LaLota (R-NY), quoted by Politico, on Rep. George Santos (R-NY).

Are you pushing McCarthy to boot him?
No.
Two committee assignments.
Wtfiwwyp?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:34:53am

re: #133 Joe Bacon

Just wondering when the New York Times is going back to that same rural Ohio diner to talk to the same 12 Ohio Republicans about how the Democrats are in disarray….

I can imagine that some state equivalents of the Freedom Caucus are nothing short of the SS-KKK

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:35:48am

re: #134 Dangerman

Are you pushing McCarthy to boot him?
No.
Two committee assignments.
Wtfiwwyp?

Because McCarthy can rely on Santos to vote as he is instructed.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:37:56am

victimless dui is partially about the potentiality that was averted.
averted mostly by chance.
and if allowed to keep doing it, the chances probably go up.

would that we did the same thing with recklessly firing a gun at people and missing.
“no one was hurt” or “he’s already suffered enough’ etc.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:38:40am

And look who was caught with kiddie porn.

If you guessed “Hey Joe! Another Republican?”

Yep!

I’m sure the Q-nuts will be all over this after a former chairman of the Jones County Republican party in South Dakota was arrested for possessing child porn. The child in the 16-second video appeared to be 9 to 12 years old with an adult male. The accused, Rocky Hayes, was listed as the chairman of the Jones County Republican party as of 2020.

crooksandliars.com

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:40:17am

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

Our “duck and cover” drills were in our classrooms. I don’t recall ever believing that these actions would protect us in the event of an actual nuclear attack.

The duck and cover drills would protect you from flying glass though, and to a lesser extent from blast and falling debris. There’s quite a lot of video of the Chelyabinsk meteor explosion in Russia a few years back with people pointing and staring at the bright light in the sky from their office windows. Then the shockwave arrives a minute later and the windows shatter in their face. I don’t think anyone was killed directly from the explosion but hundreds were injured by glass, debris etc.

Everybody thought the Soviets were aiming nukes at them specifically during the Cold War. Not true but it made people feel special in an odd way, proud that they were close enough to a target location that they’d be vapourised for sure.

There’s also a lot of misconceptions about how powerful a nuclear weapon is and how dangerous fallout is, thanks in part to bad movies (Godzilla et al) and stories (On The Beach) and computer games (Fallout et al).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:42:10am

re: #44 sizzzzlerz

So, you are one of those people that think that there no redemption for people who have made missteps. That is a vile take on humanity. Lock up everyone forever.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:43:13am

re: #139 Nojay UK

The duck and cover drills would protect you from flying glass though, and to a lesser extent from blast and falling debris.

There’s also a lot of misconceptions about how powerful a nuclear weapon is and how dangerous fallout is, thanks in part to bad movies (Godzilla et al) and stories (On The Beach) and computer games (Fallout et al).

So these drills would lessen your chance of dying quickly and mercifully and allowing you to go on and die slowly and miserably from the after-effects of multiple nuclear detonations and the subsequent total breakdown of society, public order, the food supply, the medical care system, etc…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:44:02am

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:44:42am

re: #121 teleskiguy

I’mma step away for a while…

No. Don’t. There is nothing wrong with your post and everything wrong with sizzzzlerz’s attitude about redemption - not the religious kind here, simply humanity.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:45:04am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:45:24am

re: #140 Colère Tueur de Lapin

So, you are one of those people that think that there no redemption for people who have made missteps. That is a vile take on humanity. Lock up everyone forever.

It is about patterns of behavior, not just individual instances.

We can change those patterns if we have the proper motivation.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:45:25am

I remember for tornado drills in downstate east central Illinois we went into the windowless hallways and crouched there along the walls; the teacher was supposed to open the windows in the classroom (we had the kind where the hinges were at the base and there was a single latch allowing the window to open only outward lengthwise).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:45:27am

re: #120 Joe Bacon

Yikes.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:46:24am

re: #147 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Yikes.

Oh hell yeah!

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:46:57am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

So these drills would lessen your chance of dying quickly and mercifully and allowing you to go on and die slowly and miserably from the after-effects of multiple nuclear detonations and the subsequent total breakdown of society, public order, the food supply, the medical care system, etc…

It was all theater..just like the tsa.
To say “we tried to do something”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:49:11am

re: #132 Dangerman

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mmmirele  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:50:01am

re: #115 Dangerman

Look like this was something Shiplord Kirel’s cousin was involved in, per further down in the article. It’s complicated, but it appears the money was from Trump and routed through her. Blergh.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:50:16am

re: #134 Dangerman

Are you pushing McCarthy to boot him?
No.
Two committee assignments.
Wtfiwwyp?

Performative bullshit.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:51:05am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is about patterns of behavior, not just individual instances.

We can change those patterns if we have the proper motivation.

Of course we are all more sensitive about things that happened to us.

Then we have to be careful about broad brushing our specifics onto everyone we encounter who may even be only similarly or tangentially situated.

my micro does not define the macro

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:51:31am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There’s more chance of society not breaking down if the numbers of injured and wounded survivors is less because they took simple precautions like “duck and cover”.

Countries like Vietnam got worked over to an apocalyptic level by non-nuclear means and survived as a coherent entity with hospitals, farms, cities, electricity, manufacturing etc. It’s likely that a nation-state like the US would have survived an all-out nuclear war, if diminished. Committing suicide (the On The Beach scenario) is always possible later if individuals so desire but I suspect a lot of people would continue living regardless.

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:51:32am

re: #139 Nojay UK

There’s also a lot of misconceptions about how powerful a nuclear weapon is and how dangerous fallout is, thanks in part to bad movies (Godzilla et al) and stories (On The Beach) and computer games (Fallout et al).

IIRC, the fallout they were worried about in On The Beach wasn’t from “a” nuclear weapon; it was from the US and USSR both unleashing their entire arsenals at each other.

(although I remember when I read the book, wondering why if they have that much time to expect it, why aren’t they stocking basements and digging shelters and prepping greenhouses. Fallout eventually falls; a few months of hiding underground would probably be a way to avoid the worst of it.)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:53:31am

re: #141 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yup. As I’ve mentioned before, I live in one of those zones that should be hit by a plethora of nuclear bombs and I will die instantly. That is good.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:55:39am

re: #154 Nojay UK

There’s more chance of society not breaking down if the numbers of injured and wounded survivors is less because they took simple precautions like “duck and cover”.

Countries like Vietnam got worked over to an apocalyptic level by non-nuclear means and survived as a coherent entity with hospitals, farms, cities, electricity, manufacturing etc.

Vietnam did not experience nuclear winter, catastrophic collapse of complex supply chains and the breakdown of public order.

The latter is what worries me the most. All those weapons and all those gun nuts…

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:55:53am

You Damn Kids!

Chili Cheese Fries

Good morning!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:58:22am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is about patterns of behavior, not just individual instances.

We can change those patterns if we have the proper motivation.

And Teleski had demonstrated that he has changed.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:58:35am

So the GOP will give Biden credit for reducing inflation because he was to blame for raising it, right?

Right???

What could I be missing?

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:59:45am

re: #93 Rightwingconspirator

Geez, poor guy…

Jay Leno reportedly suffers broken bones in motorcycle accident months after garage fire
The comedian, who sustained serious burns after his vintage car erupted in flames Nov. 12 in his Los Angeles garage, reveals he was knocked off his bike Jan. 17.

But was he vaxxed!??!?!

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2023 • 6:59:46am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is about patterns of behavior, not just individual instances.

We can change those patterns if we have the proper motivation.

There’s a network TV show, Fire Country, about an inmate firefighting unit. They get to be outdoors, work towards time off their sentences, learn a useful skill that some of them can turn into a career after their release…

At least once in each episode, some character tells another “you are more than the worst thing you’ve ever done.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:00:44am

re: #162 sagehen

There’s a network TV show, Fire Country, about an inmate firefighting unit. They get to be outdoors, work towards time off their sentences, learn a useful skill that some of them can turn into a career after their release…

At least once in each episode, some character tells another “you are more than the worst thing you’ve ever done.”

Except for the arsonists on the team…

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:02:33am

re: #120 Joe Bacon

Say kids!

How corrupt was ol big fat Barr?

From Talking Points Memo today!

It turns out Bill Barr and John Durham were sipping scotch as they burned down Main Justice.

Extraordinary new reporting from the New York Times peels back more layers of corruption, malfeasance, and politicization within the Barr Justice Department. In a groundbreaking story that is focused on Special Counsel John Durham but is really an indictment of Barr, the NYT unveils several previously unreported episodes:

talkingpointsmemo.com

Bottom line—Barr made Alberto Gonzalez look like Elliot Ness.

Barr has considered his only true job to be to keep Republicans in power.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:02:45am

month-over-month numbers have been back to normal for the last 6 months.
Inflation reporting of 5-6% is because of the12-month window capturing the inflation from the beginning of 2022.
Remember those days? Russia’s invasion, supply chain issues etc

Watch the 12-month number to drop back to 2% over the next six months

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:04:57am

re: #163 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Except for the arsonists on the team…

Lifetime employment.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:06:12am

Look at TFG’s inspiring message on Holocaust Memorial Day

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:06:19am

re: #155 sagehen

IIRC, the fallout they were worried about in On The Beach wasn’t from “a” nuclear weapon; it was from the US and USSR both unleashing their entire arsenals at each other.

The US fired off nearly 200 nuclear devices aboveground in Nevada and Arizona over a period of about 15 years or so. If fallout was really as bad as fiction writers made out then the centre of the US would be an uninhabitable howling wilderness to this day. In reality the residue of the fallout resulting from these tests is only detectable by very precise instruments and the bio-impact on farms, livestock, human beings, Las Vegans etc. over the decades is so small it’s statistically undetectable. Tetra-ethyl lead had more adverse impact on the environment and the people living in the area.

(although I remember when I read the book, wondering why if they have that much time to expect it, why aren’t they stocking basements and digging shelters and prepping greenhouses. Fallout eventually falls; a few months of hiding underground would probably be a way to avoid the worst of it.)

On The Beach was written in the very early 1950s when the general public’s knowledge about nuclear weapons, fallout and radiation was lacking to say the least, and sensationalism sells. See also Gojira movies in the 1960s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:07:55am

re: #30 wrenchwench

Where is the comparable climate change movie? I’m pretty movie-ignorant, but did I totally miss one?

The Day After Tomorrow

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:08:35am

And we got another Republican member of Congress who flaunted the reporting rules!

Questions raised about another freshman Republican’s finances after he refuses to comply with federal law

An investigation conducted by News Channel 5 in Nashville has found that freshman Rep. Andy Ogles (R-TN) never complied with federal laws requiring that he make disclosures about his personal finances.

In fact, notes News Channel 5, “not only did Andy Ogles ignore that law during the campaign, he continues to ignore it today.”

The law in question requires that Ogles and all candidates for elected office to disclose their assets and unearned income, their liabilities, and sources of income paid by one source that exceed $5,000.

alternet.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:11:32am

re: #168 Nojay UK

The US fired off nearly 200 nuclear devices aboveground in Nevada and Arizona over a period of about 15 years or so. If fallout was really as bad as fiction writers made out then the centre of the US would be an uninhabitable howling wilderness to this day.

At the height of the Cold War, the US alone had over 10,000 nuclear weapons, the Soviets even more…and you know damn well that once they got started, they would have kept on detonating them until they could not any longer…

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:20:03am

Scientology’s leader goes missing as lawyers try to serve him with human trafficking suit

TMZ reports that Miscavige “eluded process servers a whopping 27 times” at Scientology offices in Los Angeles, California, and Clearwater, Florida. Staffer at both locations reportedly keep refusing to accept the suit, saying they have no idea where Miscavige is.

The suit is brought by three former members of Scientology’s Sea Org, alleging that they were forced into the church as kids and forced to work into adulthood for low wages.

“Miscavige cannot be permitted to continue his gamesmanship” — and a federal judge says she will soon decide whether Miscavige can be considered officially served,” one of the plaintiff’s lawyers said last month.

tmz.com

Maybe he’s on Mars with L Ron Asshole.

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:20:35am

So in Mastodon, is there a way to filter out foreign language posts? Turns out my instance is heavy on Germanic peoples.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:21:17am

re: #168 Nojay UK

Uhm, the nuclear devices tested during the above ground testing time-period were in the order of kiloton equivalent of TNT. The nuclear devices that are in the current arsenal are in the megaton to really high megaton equivalent. I don’t think your argument is relevant.

ETA - the megaton to Megatron spell check was pretty funny.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:22:45am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At the height of the Cold War, the US alone had over 10,000 nuclear weapons, the Soviets even more…and you know damn well that once they got started, they would have kept on detonating them until they could not any longer…

Inumeracy seem to be prevalent on the other side of the Atlantic, too.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:23:54am

Down to the wire:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:25:22am

re: #175 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Inumeracy seem to be prevalent on the other side of the Atlantic, too.

Historical nuclear weapons stockpiles by country

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:25:48am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

At the height of the Cold War, the US alone had over 10,000 nuclear weapons, the Soviets even more…and you know damn well that once they got started, they would have kept on detonating them until they could not any longer…

Yes, and those thousands of weapons were aimed everywhere, in Europe and south-east Asia and at ships and submarines and not just at your home. I said it earlier, a lot of people seem to have taken perverse pleasure in assuming they were worth nuking by the Russkies. Americans especially assumed that the entire Soviet fleet of weapons was aimed at the US specifically since no-one else mattered.

The one targetting report I read was from an Ex-Soviet Strategic Rocket Forces higher-up who was visiting California after glasnost and the fall of the Wall. He told his escort that he had allocated four or five missile warheads to Crystal Lake since it supplied water to San Francisco and, as an aside, he mentioned triggering the San Andreas fault as a possible bonus. This was tongue-in-cheek since no nuke ever deployed could trigger the fault but his comments showed that the targetting was done at limited points with overuse of weapons to achieve the objective, it wasn’t a question of pock-marking the US with a well-spread-out pattern of individual craters.

The UK’s Continuous At-Sea Deterrent bomber carries ten or twelve missiles, each with a pair of 200kT warheads in individual re-entry vehicles. It is widely believed (although it is never confirmed or denied by HMG) that they are all targetted at Moscow since there’s no military benefit in spreading the joy elsewhere.

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darthstar  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:26:19am

re: #167 The Pie Overlord!

Look at TFG’s inspiring message on Holocaust Memorial Day

“Patriots of our Country are not going to take it anymore!” - he has used that expression often, and it was enough for January 6…but as he gets more desperate he’ll have to be a little more blunt and straight forward if he wants to incite violence again.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:29:12am

re: #178 Nojay UK

Your making an argument that fault is only relevant if it is concentrated. That strikes me as, poorly thought out.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:31:58am

re: #174 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Uhm, the nuclear devices tested during the above ground testing time-period were in the order of kiloton equivalent of TNT. The nuclear devices that are in the current arsenal are in the Megatron to result high Megatron equivalent. I don’t think your argument is relevant.

Total tests worldwide: 2056, including above and underground tests. 539 tests were aboveground worldwide. They also break down the yields as well.

US testing programs, by year/yield.

There were significant testing done with megaton range weapons, including infamous thermonuclear devices like Ivy Mike (10.4Mt) and Castle Bravo (15Mt). Castle Bravo was a serious failure to estimate yield, as the experiment’s yield was far greater than what the scientists predicted because the scientists didn’t understand how the fuel would interact with the materials used.

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LadyBehir  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:34:34am

re: #132 Dangerman

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:34:38am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:40:05am
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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:41:52am

re: #1 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Band-Aid KKKaren made a fool of herself and is trending because of it.

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Thanos  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:42:36am

re: #168 Nojay UK

The US fired off nearly 200 nuclear devices aboveground in Nevada and Arizona over a period of about 15 years or so. If fallout was really as bad as fiction writers made out then the centre of the US would be an uninhabitable howling wilderness to this day. In reality the residue of the fallout resulting from these tests is only detectable by very precise instruments and the bio-impact on farms, livestock, human beings, Las Vegans etc. over the decades is so small it’s statistically undetectable. Tetra-ethyl lead had more adverse impact on the environment and the people living in the area.

On The Beach was written in the very early 1950s when the general public’s knowledge about nuclear weapons, fallout and radiation was lacking to say the least, and sensationalism sells. See also Gojira movies in the 1960s.

This reminds me of one of Corman’s early efforts that haunted me as a child:
en.wikipedia.org

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LadyBehir  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:45:06am

re: #185 Dr. Matt

Would she be offended by Spiderman bandaids if she’s a Superman fan? Or Hello Kitty ones? Some people need to put down the spoon that is stirring the pot.

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:45:53am

re: #174 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Uhm, the nuclear devices tested during the above ground testing time-period were in the order of kiloton equivalent of TNT. The nuclear devices that are in the current arsenal are in the Megatron to result high Megatron equivalent. I don’t think your argument is relevant.

I think Megatron is one of the Transformers, not a measure of nuclear weapons yield but…

Most nuclear weapons today and indeed during the Cold War were sub-megatonne yield devices and often only a few dozen kilotonnes or less. The US possessed hundreds of nuclear weapons through the 1960s and 1970s where the explosive yield was well under a hundred tonnes — the W54 Davy Crockett battlefield weapon and its derivative Special Atomic Demolition Munition (the so-called backpack bomb). The Soviet arsenal was similar with a similar range of a few Big Bangs and lots of Smaller Bangs which people today conflate to fifty thousand Tsarbombas ready to use at a moment’s notice.

As for testing, I did my own calculation a while back — the US set off a total of 150MT of nuclear tests in the Pacific over a period of about ten years from the early 1950s. Lots of Cs-134 and Cs-137 fallout, one death (the Lucky Dragon Five fishing boat incident) and no nuclear winter.

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:47:22am

re: #187 LadyBehir

Would she be offended by Spiderman bandaids if she’s a Superman fan? Or Hello Kitty ones? Some people need to put down the spoon that is stirring the pot.

It’s probably a certainty. The MAGA Nazis have been trained/brainwashed to be outraged at everything.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:48:22am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:52:06am

re: #178 Nojay UK

Yes, and those thousands of weapons were aimed everywhere, in Europe and south-east Asia and at ships and submarines and not just at your home. I said it earlier, a lot of people seem to have taken perverse pleasure in assuming they were worth nuking by the Russkies.

There were missile silos less than ten miles away at the head of our little valley off the Rhine. They would have been one of the first targets, and our village and the neighboring ones reduced to ash and rubble.

The silos have since been reconverted into wind turbines, they make perfect places to pour out a foundation to support the towers.

Again, the thing that still concerns me is the potential breakdown of supply chains, communication and general public order. Sorta like in The Walking Dead where the biggest threat is not from the zombies but from other humans.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:52:39am
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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:54:15am

Oh my! If you thought the Ohio GOP is ripping itself apart, check out Nevada.

Nevada Republicans tearing themselves apart after failed MAGA candidate’s vulgar speech goes viral

Newly elected GOP delegate Drew Hirsty was expelled by the state Republican Party Central Committee earlier this month for recording and sharing a video of losing state attorney general candidate Michele Fiore slurring former state party chairwoman Amy Tarkanian as “Ms. Alcoholic” and a “panty dropper after two shots” after she endorsed her Democratic rival, reported the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

“[I was] appalled, offended and shocked,” Hirsty said.

He uploaded the video to Google Drive and sent it to fellow Republican Margaret White, who then circulated the video that soon caught the attention of media outlets, and both Hirsty and White expect to be booted from the Clark County GOP over the flap.

reviewjournal.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:54:35am

re: #184 Dr. Matt

Is it Holocaust Remembrance Day in Florida? I don’t know, feels kinda woke.

I hope DeSantis bans teaching of Critical Reich Theory: rather than fixating on concentration camps and mass murder and terrorizing civilians, let us celebrate all their achievements in building Autobahns, space technology and of course all those advances in pediatric medicine…

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A Three Hour Tour  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:57:25am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Egermency, egermency! Please to be getting from street!!!”

“Ee-MEHRR-jen-cee.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:58:29am

re: #195 A Three Hour Tour

“Ee-MEHRR-jen-cee.”

The one who pronounces it “Egermency” is told to remain on the boat.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 7:59:28am

re: #193 Joe Bacon

Klanny Oakley launched into a diatribe against other GOPers for not being sufficiently extremist enough. Got it.

Fiore is best known as being a gun addled addict who poses with guns at every opportunity she can.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:01:05am

re: #197 lawhawk

Klanny Oakley launched into a diatribe against other GOPers for not being sufficiently extremist enough. Got it.

Fiore is best known as being a gun addled addict who poses with guns at every opportunity she can.

That is what will be the undoing of the GOP: look at their failure to repeal ACA.

They could not get a consensus because members felt that they were just not being cruel enough.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:05:05am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what will be the undoing of the GOP: look at their failure to repeal ACA.

They could not get a consensus because members felt that they were just not being cruel enough.

They will justify their losses as being due to not being sufficiently cruel or racist or obstructionist enough, and radicalize the base into thinking that they have to nominate even more extreme candidates to run for office and win in gerrymandered districts, giving even more life to the lies. All the while, the reality is the GOP has not won a national presidential popular vote in 20 years of elections (since Bush 2004). You’d think that they’d realize something is fundamentally wrong, but instead hold to fact that the EC and gerrymandering keeps them in power despite losing popular votes and the EC favors the low density GOP dominated states over higher density Democratic states where majority of Americans live.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:05:46am

re: #143 Colère Tueur de Lapin

No. Don’t. There is nothing wrong with your post and everything wrong with sizzzzlerz’s attitude about redemption - not the religious kind here, simply humanity.

I read that as someone who was injured by a drink driver. That “everything wrong” discounts his or her feelings. Completely. I know a guy who was hit by a drink driver and lost his leg from the hip socket down. How human is his life? Because his life changed FOREVER.

I’m glad Teleskiguy is doing well. Very well from what I’m reading. Good for him! He’s aware of what happened Abba I’m sure what could have been. He’s very lucky in that regard.

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William Lewis  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:06:30am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There were missile silos less than ten miles away at the head of our little valley off the Rhine. They would have been one of the first targets, and our village and the neighboring ones reduced to ash and rubble.

The silos have since been reconverted into wind turbines, they make perfect places to pour out a foundation to support the towers.

I am reminded of how when I was in the Army and stationed at Illesheim, down in Bavaria, we started referring to the distances between villages as Kilotons rather that Kilometers…

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:09:46am

re: #185 Dr. Matt

Band-Aid KKKaren made a fool of herself and is trending because of it.

ps no one was ever the color of pale beige / flesh tone bandages

personally
i go with Barney bandaids

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:10:00am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Again, the thing that still concerns me is the potential breakdown of supply chains, communication and general public order. Sorta like in The Walking Dead where the biggest threat is not from the zombies but from other humans.

Real-world evidence is that in disasters like, for example, when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, supply chains keep on supplying (absent toilet paper and a few other items), communications keep on communicating (see Ukraine for a current working example of battlefield TikTokers and mobile phone intercepts) and the public tend to be orderly and Gasp!!! help each other out.

The Walking Dead is sensationalised American-focussed gun-wanking, again like most or all of the nuclear End Of The World books and movies from that nation. Shaun of the Dead is probably more representative of a real zombie outbreak than WWZ et al, a few days of disorientation and then the state gets its act together and normalises everything.

It’s worth noting that On The Beach has, as far as I can recall, no shootouts but it was written by a non-American.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:14:42am

re: #203 Nojay UK

Real-world evidence is that in disasters like, for example, when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, supply chains keep on supplying (absent toilet paper and a few other items), communications keep on communicating (see Ukraine for a current working example of battlefield TikTokers and mobile phone intercepts) and the public tend to be orderly and Gasp!!! help each other out.

The Walking Dead is sensationalised American-focussed gun-wanking, again like most or all of the nuclear End Of The World books and movies from that nation. Shaun of the Dead is probably more representative of a real zombie outbreak than WWZ et al, a few days of disorientation and then the state gets its act together and normalises everything.

It’s worth noting that On The Beach has, as far as I can recall, no shootouts but it was written by a non-American.

Nevil Shute, who also wrote one of my faves, A Town Like Alice

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:18:54am

re: #204 Dangerman

Nevil Shute, who also wrote one of my faves, A Town Like Alice

My own favourite of his is the very disingenously-named “Trustee From The Toolroom”. Not a gritty prison drama as the title might suggest but…

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:21:19am

re: #173 Thanos

So in Mastodon, is there a way to filter out foreign language posts? Turns out my instance is heavy on Germanic peoples.

On my instance I can go to profile>preferences>other(settings) and there is a way to checkmark languages you want to see. These are for public timelines

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:25:54am

re: #199 lawhawk

They will justify their losses as being due to not being sufficiently cruel or racist or obstructionist enough, and radicalize the base into thinking that they have to nominate even more extreme candidates to run for office and win in gerrymandered districts, giving even more life to the lies.

And they will insist on institution a national abortion ban, which will galvanize even more people to vote against them

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:32:56am

re: #203 Nojay UK

Real-world evidence is that in disasters like, for example, when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, supply chains keep on supplying…
It’s worth noting that On The Beach has, as far as I can recall, no shootouts but it was written by a non-American.

Katrina involved one region, we can work around that.

On the Beach was set in New Zealand, where those poor Kiwis lack a Second Amendment. Hence the lack of weaponry and gun nuts.

I am somewhat concerned about what America could turn into if, as a result of some natural and/or man-made disaster, public order collapses over a large area and our Well Regulated Militias determine that they need to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights by riding around in pickups like it’s Somalia, gunning down anything that they perceive as a threat.

World War Z (the novel at least, forget the film) was more about how humanity’s inability to deal with a crisis: first we cover it up, then we deny it when it starts to leak, then, when it becomes impossible to either cover up or deny, certain half-assed measures are implemented that turn out to be counter-productive, mass panic ensues and humanity nearly perishes.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:41:14am

re: #201 William Lewis

I am reminded of how when I was in the Army and stationed at Illesheim, down in Bavaria, we started referring to the distances between villages as Kilotons rather that Kilometers…

I attended my sister’s college graduation in 1981 from Antioch in Yellow Springs, OH. Stenciled on the sidewalk in front of the student union was a red arrow that was labeled something like “2.1 miles to Ground Zero”. Which was how far it was to the main runway at Wright-Patterson AFB.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:41:43am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

After one of the hurricanes, a bunch of armed white guys decided they needed to impose order in some of the minority areas. So, yeah, a complete collapse of society would be seen by some as an excuse to become warlords.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:45:56am

re: #210 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I attended my sister’s college graduation in 1981 from Antioch in Yellow Springs, OH. Stenciled on the sidewalk in front of the student union was a red arrow that was labeled something like “2.1 miles to Ground Zero”. Which was how far it was to the main runway at Wright-Patterson AFB.

In 1982-83, I lived just over 5 miles from Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson.

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Nojay UK  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:45:58am

re: #209 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

World War Z (the novel at least, forget the film) was more about how humanity’s inability to deal with a crisis:

A work of fiction, made-up with dramatic events for entertainment’s sake. We got the WWZ scenario for reals with the recent SARS-nCoV-2 outbreak which had the potential to sicken billions of people and kill millions, overwhelm healthcare, devastate nations, cats and dogs living together, you name it.

What we ended up with was more than one really good vaccine in a few months from a standing start (Nobel Prizes all round!), a realisation by nearly all governments that they were facing a serious situation and plans put together and implemented to ameliorate the Bad Things as much as possible on a worldwide basis. There were hardly any shootouts (well there may have been some in America but it’s difficult to tell over the roar of continuous gunfire there on any given Tuesday) and no breakdown of societal structure.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:50:52am

re: #213 Nojay UK

A work of fiction, made-up with dramatic events for entertainment’s sake. We got the WWZ scenario for reals with the recent SARS-nCoV-2 outbreak which had the potential to sicken billions of people and kill millions, overwhelm healthcare, devastate nations, cats and dogs living together, you name it.

We lucked out in that Covid, although serious & deadly, was never an existential threat to humanity.

But we live in a nation where cross-gender M&Ms, transvestite shows and restricting gas stoves are seen as existential threats to our future as a nation.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:53:56am

Add another fool to the right winger list.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:54:27am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We lucked out in that Covid, although deadly, was never an existential threat to humanity.

But we live in a nation where cross-gender M&Ms, transvestite shows and restricting gas stoves are seen as existential threats to our future as a nation.

Intrusive government can’t tell me to stop poisoning my family with a poorly-ventilated gas stove or what candies to have sex with!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:55:32am

re: #215 Joe Bacon

Add another fool to the right winger list.

A case of someone who couldn’t get work and blamed it on liberal bias rather than any lack of appeal or talent.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:56:37am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We lucked out in that Covid, although deadly, was never an existential threat to humanity.

But we live in a nation where cross-gender M&Ms, transvestite shows and restricting gas stoves are seen as existential threats to our future as a nation.

By a vocal and cynical minority that unfortunately has a lot more political power than they deserve to have by any reasonable standard. But reason and standards are not really humanity’s strong point when there is a buck to be made and people to exploit.

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:57:59am

mmmmm who wants to go to KFC for Kentucky Fried T-Rex?

T-Rex’s Closest Relative: The Chicken

Like most other animals, the species of chickens that we are familiar with today is the result of evolution and adaptation. Believe it or not, the chicken has an ancestor that was dominating the planet millions of years ago. The chicken is, indeed, closely related to the T-Rex. How? We’ll break the chicken down for you and teach you a little something that you might not have known about these creatures while we’re at it!

The Chicken Ancestor: The T-Rex
Back in 2003, a unique fossil of the T-Rex was discovered with soft tissue intact - allowing scientists to extract enough DNA for research. This 68-million-year fossil was compared to the DNA of 21 modern animal species…and the result? The proteins found in the DNA of the T-Rex were most like those of the chicken.

To further their research, the chicken was the first bird to have its genome sequenced. This means that scientists found the particular order of their DNA. Doing this helped provide more evidence for scientists to confirm that the chicken is currently the closest living relative to the T-Rex.

Even before discovering the evidence from the fossil, some scientists observed that chickens and the T-Rex had similar characteristics. Both chickens and T-Rex walk on two legs, have scaly feet with sharp claws, and both have an arched neck with a big head. There was proof that some of these dinosaurs even had feathers covering their bodies and bird-like lungs. However, decades before these observations and discoveries, it was believed that dinosaurs were reptiles: cold-blooded and slow moving.

zarebasystems.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 8:58:47am

re: #218 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

By a vocal and cynical minority that unfortunately has a lot more political power than they deserve to have by any reasonable standard. But reason and standards are not really humanity’s strong point when there is a buck to be made and people to exploit.

All aided and abetted by a media structure that thrives on spreading sensation and scandal rather than promoting sound and rational discourse.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:00:00am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:00:28am

re: #219 Joe Bacon

Even before discovering the evidence from the fossil, some scientists observed that chickens and the T-Rex had similar characteristics. Both chickens and T-Rex walk on two legs, have scaly feet with sharp claws, and both have an arched neck with a big head. There was proof that some of these dinosaurs even had feathers covering their bodies and bird-like lungs.

You know what’s already under development at a Wuhan lab…

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wrenchwench  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:02:18am

re: #202 Dangerman

ps no one was ever the color of pale beige / flesh tone bandages

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In food service, if you need a bandaid, it will be blue, to avoid being lost in food. Then it has to be covered, like with a glove.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:03:34am

re: #223 wrenchwench

In food service, if you need a bandaid, it will be blue, to avoid being lost in food.

I will never order a blueberry muffin again…

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:06:57am

re: #215 Joe Bacon

Add another fool to the right winger list.

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Fuck. That’s disappointing the see that Jim Breuer is another fucking Nazi.

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sagehen  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:07:13am

re: #211 Belafon

After one of the hurricanes, a bunch of armed white guys decided they needed to impose order in some of the minority areas. So, yeah, a complete collapse of society would be seen by some as an excuse to become warlords.

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lawhawk  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:11:18am
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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:11:47am
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:18:12am

re: #199 lawhawk

They will justify their losses as being due to not being sufficiently cruel or racist or obstructionist enough, and radicalize the base into thinking that they have to nominate even more extreme candidates to run for office and win in gerrymandered districts, giving even more life to the lies. All the while, the reality is the GOP has not won a national presidential popular vote in 20 years of elections (since Bush 2004). You’d think that they’d realize something is fundamentally wrong, but instead hold to fact that the EC and gerrymandering keeps them in power despite losing popular votes and the EC favors the low density GOP dominated states over higher density Democratic states where majority of Americans live.

They have learned the lesson that gerrymandering and the EC can keep them in power indefinitely. They don’t have to change — just how to manipulate the flaws in our system to keep democracy under leash and spread autocracy wherever they can.

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Belafon  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:22:23am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:24:26am

re: #203 Nojay UK

Real-world evidence is that in disasters like, for example, when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, supply chains keep on supplying (absent toilet paper and a few other items), communications keep on communicating (see Ukraine for a current working example of battlefield TikTokers and mobile phone intercepts) and the public tend to be orderly and Gasp!!! help each other out.

The Walking Dead is sensationalised American-focussed gun-wanking, again like most or all of the nuclear End Of The World books and movies from that nation. Shaun of the Dead is probably more representative of a real zombie outbreak than WWZ et al, a few days of disorientation and then the state gets its act together and normalises everything.

It’s worth noting that On The Beach has, as far as I can recall, no shootouts but it was written by a non-American.

Favorite take on zombies:

Key & Peele - White Zombies

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:24:50am

re: #205 Nojay UK

My own favourite of his is the very disingenously-named “Trustee From The Toolroom”. Not a gritty prison drama as the title might suggest but…

i’m gonna read that

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A Cranky One  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:27:00am

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:30:59am

re: #233 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

I identity with that mouse.

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retired cynic  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:33:40am

re: #227 lawhawk

The horizontal line keeps moving up…

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:34:11am
“The Supreme Court did not disclose its longstanding financial ties with former Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff even as it touted him as an expert who independently validated its investigation into who leaked the draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade,” CNN reports.

“The court’s inquiry, released last week with Chertoff’s endorsement, failed to identify who was responsible for the unprecedented leak. The decision to keep the relationship with Chertoff quiet is a reflection of a pattern of opacity at the nation’s highest court, whose rulings affect every American.”

not too corrupt

some legacy Mr. “Balls and Strikes”

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:39:22am

re: #236 Dangerman

not too corrupt

some legacy Mr. “Balls and Strikes”

So how many others here think like me that, if the leak came from a liberal justice or their staff, the person would have been identified and their name revealed to all.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:39:30am
New York Times: “Ads from major brands are nonexistent on the site. Instead, the ads on Truth Social are for alternative medicine, diet pills, gun accessories and Trump-themed trinkets, according to an analysis of hundreds of ads on the social network by The New York Times.”

he thought he’d get major funding, skim fees off the top and be done with it.
plus that his name alone would generate a following audience.

like elmo, he 100% did/does not understand the economic model necessary to make a service like TS generate profits

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:39:57am

re: #234 Dr. Matt

I identity with that mouse.

possum?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:41:05am

re: #229 Hecuba’s daughter

They have learned the lesson that gerrymandering and the EC can keep them in power indefinitely. They don’t have to change — just how to manipulate the flaws in our system to keep democracy under leash and spread autocracy wherever they can.

and when they lose, they scream to high heaven that they have had their rightful victory stolen with the help of Italian satellites and Venezuelan dictators

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:41:55am

re: #237 Hecuba’s daughter

So how many others here think like me that, if the leak came from a liberal justice or their staff, the person would have been identified and their name revealed to all.

the same day
no investigation necessary because everyone would know (like we all did)
this silence, and no determination, is telling

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:45:26am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and when they lose, they scream to high heaven that they have had their rightful victory stolen with the help of Italian satellites and Venezuelan dictators

And some will resort to 2nd Amendment measures to try to get a victory. I will never forget how Joe Walsh, before he joined the sane brigade, talked about taking these measures in 2016 if Hillary won.

243
The Pie Overlord!  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:46:24am

These are the people that Putinists call “nazis”

244
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:48:25am
245
EstebanTornado1963  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:49:03am

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

And some will resort to 2nd Amendment measures to try to get a victory. I will never forget how Joe Walsh, before he joined the sane brigade, talked about taking these measures in 2016 if Hillary won.

Joe Walsh would be 10000% with the sedition caucus if he still had his seat in Congress

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BigPapa  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:49:19am

re: #231 Barefoot Grin

OMG I never saw that one. I’m in tears.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:49:59am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

if the idea is that releasing the video will quash right-wing conspiracy theories, that is a painfully naive notion!

“The video is a Deep-State deep fake!”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:50:49am

re: #239 Dangerman

possum?

possumbly

249
Dave In Austin  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:55:38am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Where are his Pants?”
Number 1 question.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:56:31am

re: #248 Barefoot Grin

possumbly

+1

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gocart mozart  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:57:13am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 27, 2023 • 9:59:07am

re: #251 gocart mozart

Why do I suspect that Dred Scott topped the list because it didn’t go far enough for these people?
/ (half)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:02:32am

re: #251 gocart mozart

surprised that Brown isn’t on the list

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:02:33am

Hee. Posted this 9 years ago today:

I never have understood the idea that “an armed society is a polite society.”
However much I might want to, I am not in the habit of shooting rude and ill mannered people even when I have a weapon handy. If I were, I would probably have run out of ammo or the SWAT team would have gotten me before I could have finished my morning commute in Lubbock.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:07:08am

re: #254 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I never have understood the idea that “an armed society is a polite society.”

1914: “A Europe with a military balance of powers is a peaceful Europe”

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jeffreyw  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:12:59am

re: #239 Dangerman

possum?

You called?

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Joe Bacon  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:15:03am

Trump Organization can’t be sued because ‘no entity as such exists’: Trump lawyers

Oh Holy Father of Sweet Breakfast Meats…

rawstory.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:16:16am

re: #236 Dangerman

This guarantees it was one of the conservative justices that leaked. 100%.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:17:46am
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John Hughes  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:18:01am

re: #255 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

johndclare.net

I heard that it started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich ‘cause he was hungry.

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Crush White Nationalism  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:18:06am

Should I be the pilot? I have no idea how to fly this thing.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:22:41am

Inside Trump’s Killing Spree

In that moment, he became the ninth of 13 people executed in the final six months of the Trump administration — more federal executions than in the previous 10 administrations combined. Of the 13, six were put to death after Trump lost the election, his Justice Department accelerating the schedule to ensure they would die before the incoming administration could intercede. Before Trump, there had been only three federal executions since 1963; in January 2021, Trump oversaw three executions during a single four-day stretch.”

“Two years before that stretch, Trump had signed perhaps the lone broadly popular major initiative of his presidency: a bipartisan criminal-justice reform bill. By 2020, however, his political calculus had changed. As he geared up for another election, Trump White House sources say, the president was telling advisers that carrying out capital punishment would insulate him from criticism that he was soft on crime. And in his attorney general, Bill Barr, a longtime death-penalty advocate, he had the perfect accomplice

Pig

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:24:02am

re: #252 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Why do I suspect that Dred Scott topped the list because it didn’t go far enough for these people?
/ (half)

Agreeing on Dred Scott’s moral depravity gives blanket public license to deny claims of their racism and sexism when just about every other decision would give racist and sexist behavior at least tacit support or support the ability of localities to maintain it.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:26:34am

re: #257 Joe Bacon

Trump Organization can’t be sued because ‘no entity as such exists’: Trump lawyers

Oh Holy Father of Sweet Breakfast Meats…

rawstory.com

Idiotic
Won’t work
James is smarter than this and didn’t name ” the trump org “
She did name the trump org, inc, which does exist.

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:27:30am

re: #259 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

@ElonMusk, delete your account

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Dr. Matt  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:31:58am

re: #259 Charles Johnson

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Dangerman  Jan 27, 2023 • 10:35:28am

re: #257 Joe Bacon

Trump Organization can’t be sued because ‘no entity as such exists’: Trump lawyers

Oh Holy Father of Sweet Breakfast Meats…

rawstory.com

Oh, and please, its “tenet”, not “tenant”

(the rawstory writer, not you)

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 27, 2023 • 11:07:26am

re: #145 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is about patterns of behavior, not just individual instances.

We can change those patterns if we have the proper motivation.

The more I know, the less I understand
All the things I thought I knew
I’m learning again
-Don Henley-

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austin_blue  Jan 27, 2023 • 4:58:30pm

re: #243 The Pie Overlord!

These are the people that Putinists call “nazis”

Holy shit, that’s powerful as hell.


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