A Profile of Unique Guitarist Ralph Towner: “At First Light”

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An ECM artist since the early 1970s, US guitarist Ralph Towner has built up a unique body of work in his recordings for the label. Central to his oeuvre are his solo albums, the first of which, Diary, was issued 50 years ago. At First Light extends this great tradition, drawing inspiration from a broad palette of music. “My solo recordings have always included my own compositions in which there are trace elements of the many composers and musicians that have attracted me,” writes Towner in a liner note, citing the influence of, among others, George Gershwin, John Coltrane, John Dowland and Bill Evans: “I feel that At First Light is a good example of shaping this expanse of influences into my personal music.” In addition to his own pieces, Towner also plays Hoagy Carmichael’s “Little Old Lady”, Jule Styne’s “Make Someone Happy” and the traditional tune “Danny Boy.” Recorded at Auditorio Stelio Molo RSI, Lugano, in February 2022, At First Light was produced by Manfred Eicher.

Listen to and order the new album ‘At First Light’ here: https://ECM.lnk.to/AtFirstLightID

Available on CD; VINYL, download and streaming.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:31:19am

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:37:15am

The Pope is pumped up.

Mastodon

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:37:54am

re: #2 darthstar

Nice coat.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:38:09am

re: #2 darthstar

The Pope is pumped up.

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Wait until you see his third form.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:40:08am

Hmm. Should I go out to the Acme and get some bottled water or not? Right now I am hesitant to go to the supermarket because it will be crowded.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:43:50am

re: #2 darthstar

The Pope is pumped up.

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Some folks went the Ghostbusters Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man route in comments.

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Jay C  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:45:05am

re: #6 Barefoot Grin

Some folks went the Ghostbusters Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man route in comments.

Naaah, Pope Frank is old-school:
He went for the “Michelin Man” look…..

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:45:36am

Just throwing this out here following the Tommy Shaw discussion from the previous thread.

Episode #83 Daryl Hall & Tommy Shaw Blue Collar Man LFDH

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Captain Ron  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:56:29am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:57:46am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 10:58:18am
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:03:04am

Rhetorical question.
Why do we have a statute of limitations when so many white collar criminals can easily pay the cost of delaying justice?

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:03:58am

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:05:33am
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BigPapa  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:09:50am

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Interesting take. As if they don’t care about winning on every point but getting a few wins is all that’s necessary to continue the onslaught of bullshit. They still win by losing the majority of exchanges but come out with a few soundbytes.

I’m grokking the calculus on this and it checks out.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:11:33am

re: #14 jaunte

There is no federal law prohibiting CURRENT presidents from criminal prosecution.

Yet House Republicans want to pass a law prohibiting FORMER presidents — regular citizens — from criminal prosecution.

I assume they will call it what it is: the Protect Donald Trump Act.

Why< would they waste time grandstanding on a bill that will never pass?

To show their “loyalty” to Trump while quietly flipping him the bird under the table?

A handful of die-hards like MTG will wholeheartedly support this and the rest will go along to make themselves look like Loyal Patriots in the eyes of the GOP base

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:15:15am

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:17:57am
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No Malarkey!  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:19:11am
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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:23:03am

re: #411 Captain Ron

@John_Hudson
The Israeli think tank behind Netanyahu’s judicial overhaul was founded by an American Israeli and funded by a U.S. libertarian billionaire

Dunno if anyone else has posted an open link to this WaPo article:

wapo.st

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:23:48am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

Yeah, ouch is right. Ouch for the rest of us. Double the taxes on everyone making that much.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:26:59am
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:27:17am

Time to call it a day - up early for work tomorrow. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:27:50am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

The dude is worth $160 million. Good grief.

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:29:15am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

Curry’s basketball earnings hover around $48 million in 2023. His endorsement contracts are $47 million for a total of $96 million. Paying $6 million in tax puts him in the 6.25% bracket. My best year income-wise before I retired was about $300K which included both salary, LT and ST gains, and interest and less 401k withholdings. My federal taxes were around 18% and state was around 8%.

Sounds like he can afford it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:32:19am

It never occurs to these assholes that some of these rich folks HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:33:45am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

It never occurs to these assholes that some of these rich folks HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

Those are the socialist commies everyone should be very wary of!
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:37:29am

re: #21 William Lewis

Yeah, ouch is right. Ouch for the rest of us. Double the taxes on everyone making that much.

at least Steph is actually paying those taxes

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:37:36am

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

It never occurs to these assholes that some of these rich folks HAVE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE.

Warren Buffett, of Berkshire Hathaway, has stated he thinks the rich should be paying much more. Of course, most of his wealth is invested in B-H stock which does not throw off dividends, hence, he only pays taxes on it when he sells some shares. Which he never does.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:37:51am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

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EstebanTornado1963  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:39:01am
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:39:50am

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:42:13am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

Andrew Petcash
AndrewPetcash
This is why taxes suck…

Steph Curry’s taxes from just California:
• $6.3 million in 2023
• $40.2 million over his career

Ouch.

All professional athletes pay CA state income taxes on games played in CA, even those who reside in other states, and play for sport franchises based in other states.

Wonder if the same will go for college athletes receiving NIL payments playing games in CA?

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:43:14am
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:43:25am

Vulture news:

We have eggs!

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:44:25am

Trey, the third-wheel possibly aunt or uncle stays busy scaring off curious interlopers:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:46:03am

Let’s try this again.

Mastodon

Mastodon

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:46:16am

re: #35 jaunte

Vulture news:

We have eggs!

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Congratulations Papa Jaunte.

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mmmirele  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:46:23am

Allegedly the Kardashians, in particular, Kim, may have been banned from the Met Gala. This over the fact that Kim showed up wearing the Marilyn Monroe “Happy Birthday” dress, and apparently ruined it, pissing off the museum conservator community. We won’t *know* until the Met Gala comes around, but really if Kim goes, maybe she should just wear a black garbage bag, you know, something that can’t be ruined because it’s already trash.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:47:11am

re: #38 darthstar

There will be no gender reveal.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:48:01am

re: #40 jaunte

There will be no gender reveal.

Fine…just be calm and carrion.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:49:26am
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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:49:33am

re: #35 jaunte

Vulture news:

We have eggs!

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Is electrical wire and PVC pipe part of the nesting ritual?

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:49:57am

re: #36 jaunte

Trey, the third-wheel possibly aunt or uncle stays busy scaring off curious interlopers:

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One of my favorite animals when I was in college and volunteered as a museum docent at the Sacramento Science Center was this big turkey vulture. I’d take her out to show the kids - she must have weighed 15lbs.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:51:20am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:53:00am

re: #27 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Those are the socialist commies everyone should be very wary of!
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Repugs whip up their peasant pawns by constantly bitching about “rich elitist liberals” like Nancy Pelosi, Soros or the Kennedy mob.
I’m a fair ways from that territory but yokel country club redneck critics have no trouble tarring me with the same label. It is a badge of honor.

The “Flyng Lady” mascot on my Robber-Baron Obama-car, for example, is clearly designed for disemboweling any honest, working Republicans who can’t get out of way fast enough. Fortunately, no such persons exist in the real world so I don’t have to worry about the mess and legal entanglements that might result.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:53:31am

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:53:39am

re: #43 sizzzzlerz

Just the old storage shed contents from the previous owner. The vultures took over before I got around to cleaning out.

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Dangerman  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:55:40am

re: #9 Captain Ron

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I would appear.
In opening remarks say:
I would never Disrespect Congress and not show up
Now, I can’t answer any of your questions as this is entirely a state matter and you have no jurisdiction.
Anything else?

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:55:42am

re: #39 mmmirele

Allegedly the Kardashians, in particular, Kim, may have been banned from the Met Gala. This over the fact that Kim showed up wearing the Marilyn Monroe “Happy Birthday” dress, and apparently ruined it, pissing off the museum conservator community. We won’t *know* until the Met Gala comes around, but really if Kim goes, maybe she should just wear a black garbage bag, you know, something that can’t be ruined because it’s already trash.

I’d be surprised if that dress could fit anyone without modifications. I understand that it was sewn directly on Marilyn in order to get it form-fitting (it was a tough job but somebody had to do it).

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:56:08am
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:57:36am

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

::: pulls shades down and looks above the frames at Rolls Royce :::
Very fine automobile.
::: puts shades back on bridge of nose :::

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Dangerman  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:59:04am

re: #19 No Malarkey!

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Arbitrary and meaningless without effective tax rates

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:59:17am
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 11:59:30am

Ah ha!

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:01:27pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Hypothetical?
Assumed Power.
Intellectual Consistency?
I SAID POWER!!!

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:01:28pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Repugs whip up their peasant pawns by constantly bitching about “rich elitist liberals” like Nancy Pelosi, Soros or the Kennedy mob.
I’m a fair ways from that territory but yokel country club redneck critics have no trouble tarring me with the same label. It is a badge of honor.

The “Flyng Lady” mascot on my Robber-Baron Obama-car, for example, is clearly designed for disemboweling any honest, working Republicans who can’t get out of way fast enough. Fortunately, no such persons exist in the real world so I don’t have to worry about the mess and legal entanglements that might result.

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Does your horn play “We’re in the money” like Al Czervik’s car?

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:01:42pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Ah ha!

Jordan will get a subpoena soon…from Jack Smith. And he won’t be able to ignore it.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:04:04pm

re: #58 darthstar

Jordan will get a subpoena soon…from Jack Smith. And he won’t be able to ignore it.

And then Gym Neighbors will subpoena Smith…

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:04:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:05:57pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:05:58pm

re: #57 sizzzzlerz

Does your horn play “We’re in the money” like Al Czervik’s car?

No, but I’ve considered it, along with the Imperial March from Star Wars.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:06:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:07:48pm

Looks like fedified.com’s Mastodon embed is ignoring the window.postMessage call to get the document size.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:09:10pm

This is one disadvantage to a decentralized network. There’s no guarantee that every Mastodon instance will support all of Mastodon’s features.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:09:50pm

The only problem with your favorite JavaScript framework is that it depends on 3 other JavaScript frameworks. And that 2 of those dependencies depend on a deprecated library that has several critical vulnerabilities. Other than that: I love it. Mastodon

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Dangerman  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:18:22pm
Mar 25 Idaho Republicans want to keep doctors from treating ectopic pregnancies
Proving they do not care about the mothers any more than they do the children.

These are fertilized eggs that implant outside the uterus. These rogue ova will never become babies and they can kill the patient …

Link

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:23:35pm
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TedStriker  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:25:28pm

re: #57 sizzzzlerz

Does your horn play “We’re in the money” like Al Czervik’s car?

re: #62 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

No, but I’ve considered it, along with the Imperial March from Star Wars.

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Dangerman  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:27:25pm

There’s a second letter from jordan et al to bragg

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No Malarkey!  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:30:22pm

Trump using insurrection footage at his rally.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:32:57pm

re: #25 sizzzzlerz

Curry’s basketball earnings hover around $48 million in 2023. His endorsement contracts are $47 million for a total of $96 million. Paying $6 million in tax puts him in the 6.25% bracket. My best year income-wise before I retired was about $300K which included both salary, LT and ST gains, and interest and less 401k withholdings. My federal taxes were around 18% and state was around 8%.

Sounds like he can afford it.

I never broke $30,000 in my best year. Curry pays more in taxes every year than I made in my life. Your taxes were probably more than I made every year.

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Semper Fi  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:36:51pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

Hmm. Should I go out to the Acme and get some bottled water or not? Right now I am hesitant to go to the supermarket because it will be crowded.

Should be quick if that’s all you’re getting.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:39:52pm

re: #70 Dangerman

Gym Neighbors won’t stop with issuing a subpoena to Bragg. He’s going to put him in contempt of Congress.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:49:59pm
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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:53:20pm

...

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No Malarkey!  Mar 26, 2023 • 12:55:59pm

re: #74 Joe Bacon

Gym Neighbors won’t stop with issuing a subpoena to Bragg. He’s going to put him in contempt of Congress.

Cool, he can then send a criminal referral to DOJ for Garland to ignore.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:07:54pm

re: #71 No Malarkey!

Trump using insurrection footage at his rally.

Wait, I thought they are claiming it was a “peaceful tourist visit”

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:14:42pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:17:25pm

re: #79 jaunte

Not to mention the House GOP HAS NO FUCKING JURISDICTION ON THIS MATTER.

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:18:41pm

Well, Bibi really screwed up this time.

Nationwide unplanned protests are now taking place across Israel in response to Netanyahu’s sudden firing of Defense Minister Galant over his opposition to the Netanyahu government’s judicial overhaul.

Protests against the overhaul were being planned throughout the week in an orderly fashion like throughout the past 10 weeks, but tens of thousands poured out of their houses within literal minutes of Galant’s firing being announced.

Key streets are now being blocked in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, hundreds of protesters are gathering in front of houses of Likud ministers and parliament members, and the Histadrut (Israel’s national and powerful employer union) has just announced a national employee strike in response to the government’s continued efforts.

Been familiar with this corner of the globe for quite a few years, and can’t recall anything quite like this.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:18:53pm

Translation of top photo caption: After sacking of Galant, spontaneous demonstrations break out in the streets of the land. Thousands attend spontaneous demonstrations in Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Haifa and Beer Sheva.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:22:40pm

I really hope the next time Bibi is gone, he doesn’t come back.

I mean that as in permanently out of politics, not dead.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:24:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:28:19pm

re: #74 Joe Bacon

Gym Neighbors won’t stop with issuing a subpoena to Bragg. He’s going to put him in contempt of Congress.

He’s going to try to get him lynched.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:32:32pm

Andrew Cuomo slams NY, Georgia investigations into Trump as feeding ‘cancer in our body politic’

thehill.com

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:32:58pm

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

I really hope the next time Bibi is gone, he doesn’t come back.

I mean that as in permanently out of politics, not dead.

I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that.

Motivated by legal woes; on the wings of a slim victory that was only won due to events stemming from his opponent’s screw-ups (the likes of which haven’t been seen in almost 30 years); and backed by a bloc of fanatics & opportunistic sycophants who need him, in the wake of overwhelming opposition among left, center and even right-wing parties who refuse to sit with him - Netanyahu’s judicial overhaul is all about weakening the legislative branch in a country where the executive & legislative branches are just about one & the same.
All of it designed to keep him out of jail, no matter what. That’s all he cares about.

Make no mistake - he KNOWS he’s toast after this. He knew it even before he lit the fuse of the judicial overhaul, which was kept from the public until after the election. And that was done for good reason - plenty of voters from his own party are against it. Even during the elections, Likud officials were playing their own “game of thrones”, each trying to secure their place as his “heir to the throne” for after what was hailed as “Bibi’s Last Try”.

Polls from two weeks ago showed that if elections were held again, the Opposition bloc would win in a landslide. It’s likely much more decisive now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:39:58pm

re: #86 BeenHereAwhile

Andrew Cuomo slams NY, Georgia investigations into Trump as feeding ‘cancer in our body politic’

thehill.com

Sexual harrasser says what?

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:42:36pm

Now it is an advisory to use bottled water. It is a good thing that I drink soda.
whyy.org

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:45:23pm

re: #67 Dangerman

Link

Even the antichoice movement is tiring of the charade. Instead of grappling with the ethical implications of denying life-saving care, national antichoice groups have started promulgating the absurd lie that abortion is never medically necessary.

In 2022, the Idaho Republicans voted nearly four to one to amend their party platform to criminalize all abortions, including lifesaving terminations. An exception for ectopic pregnancies was proposed and rejected.

They’re slowly gravitating to the real position they’ve held all along, which is that a woman dying due to pregnancy is totally cool with them because “GOD WILLS IT!”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:51:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:53:05pm

I checked Google News and Cuomo is all over the right wing sites. No doubt what he was going for. They don’t give a shit about his sexual harassment.

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sagehen  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:54:10pm

re: #81 (((Archangel1)))

Well, Bibi really screwed up this time.

Been familiar with this corner of the globe for quite a few years, and can’t recall anything quite like this.

Bibi somehow forgot, this is a country full of Jews. Lots and lots and lots of Jews.

Jews whose entire religion, for thousands of years, has been based on worship of THE LAW.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:55:49pm

re: #86 BeenHereAwhile

Andrew Cuomo slams NY, Georgia investigations into Trump as feeding ‘cancer in our body politic’

thehill.com

Who really gave a shit what Andy Cuomo thought about this? Who looked at stories about the impending indictment one of modern history’s most hated presidents and said “I wonder what a disgraced shitheel like Andy thinks about this?”

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:56:25pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:56:31pm
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:57:17pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

World’s most expensive shitposting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:58:41pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 1:59:01pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I would not give you 2¢ for twitter.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:00:52pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:01:12pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

I checked Google News and Cuomo is all over the right wing sites. No doubt what he was going for. They don’t give a shit about his sexual harassment.

To them, it’s something to be proud of.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:02:44pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:03:35pm

re: #100 PhillyPretzel

I would not give you 2¢ for twitter.

Shit, I would
You could literally cease operation and make a profit on the 2¢ from the collection of morons that forget to cancel their monthly $8 auto-payment for Twitter Blue

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:04:56pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

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Monitoring group: Chicago Police officers are taught their lives are more important than community safet

Well, obviously they just need more funding and more training.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:04:56pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

True. Yes one could make money off of that.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:07:36pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

I checked Google News and Cuomo is all over the right wing sites. No doubt what he was going for. They don’t give a shit about his sexual harassment.

The Left’s trash always becomes the Right’s gold: tRump, Cuomo, Denise Miller, Elmo, Weiner-Savage, etc.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:07:37pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:08:05pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:08:31pm

re: #106 PhillyPretzel

True. Yes one could make money off of that.

And I bet some NFT-hording twit would pay handsomely for the rights to the Twitter trademarks

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Dr. Matt  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:09:36pm

re: #97 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Blowing 20 million to pwn the libz! 🤘🏻🤘🏻

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Crush White Nationalism  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:09:46pm

No one is capable of causing anyone trouble while on nitrous oxide, but it does sound like it’s causing a bit of a public nuisance.

The nerve damage they talk about later in the article happens to some people who graduate from whip cream chargers to tanks of nitrous. A friend who also has a problem with alcohol, currently under control, rendered himself unable to walk with a misdiagnosis of gout many years ago.

They mostly seem to be upset about litter, because it’s now popular with some messy, possibly homeless, people in the park.

Possessing laughing gas is to be made a criminal offence for the first time, the government has announced.

There will also be tighter controls on retailers to prevent the supply of nitrous oxide for misuse.

It goes against recommendations from the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) which recently advised against new laws to ban nitrous oxide.

Nitrous oxide, sold in metal canisters, is known as NOS and is one of the most-used drugs by UK 16 to 24-year-olds.

The details are expected to be released on Monday. The BBC understands the ban would be issued under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, which regulates drugs based on their perceived harm and potential for misuse.

It is already illegal to produce or supply the gas for its psychoactive effects under the Psychoactive Substances Act 2016. The law makes production, supply and importation of nitrous oxide for human consumption illegal, but not possession.

The change is part of a crackdown on anti-social behaviour, which Prime Minister Rishi Sunak will announce on Monday.

Nitrous oxide: Possession of laughing gas to be criminal offence (BBC News)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:14:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:14:55pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:15:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:15:43pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:16:04pm

re: #115 (((Archangel1)))

I would be pissed too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:16:34pm

re: #89 The Pie Overlord!

She framed her question to the reporter incorrectly in my opinion.

She said that the courts were weighing whether a foetus had more of a right-to-life than a woman.

In something like an ectopic pregnancy, both will die. What they are ruling on (assuming they think a foetus is a person) is whether you can kill one, or kill two. They want to kill two.

Conservatism=Death.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:16:41pm

re: #107 Dr. Matt

The Left’s trash always becomes the Right’s gold: tRump, Cuomo, Denise Miller, Elmo, Weiner-Savage, etc.

Tulsi.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:17:44pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

Holy catfish batman…

Does the Israeli constitution allow impeachment?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:18:02pm

I’ve contended for quite a while that the repug base actually admires hypocrisy and lying, special rules for special prople. It represents power and status to them. I think this is what Gym Jordan is appealing to with his massively hypocritical attempt to subpoena Bragg. It also fits well with the essence of conservatism, an in group that is protected by the law but not bound by it, and an out group that is bound by the law but not protected by it. He is affirming to the base that he and his fellow repugs are the in group, since they can scoff at Congressional subpoenas, while Democrats are the out group and are therefore obliged to obey.

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:18:06pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:21:01pm

re: #122 calochortus

Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

these trad wives keep trying to convince everyone else that this is all fine when they can’t, in reality, convince themselves (or their trad husbands)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:21:21pm
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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:21:47pm

Youtube Video
I was standing on the corner in the middle of the square
Tryin’ to make me some arrangements
To get some of that dynamite reefer there

Now, I was already high
And dressed very fly
Just standin’ on the corner
Watchin’ all the fine hoes
When up drove my main man big money Vann
In his super ninety-eight Olds Now as Van stepped out
And he looked about to me He began to speak
Came his real fine freak
She wore a black chemise dress
Considered to be one of the very best
Hair was glassy black
Eyes a deep see green-blue
Her skin boss dark hue
Man! She was some kind of fine!
Now, as I spoke to Vann, and I shook his hand
And I asked him “Is that your honey?”
Without no jive
This was the dude’s reply, “Like she’s anybody’s. who wants to make some
Money.”
“She’s really down
And known all around
As Doriella Du Fontaine
She plays her stick
Mind you, she’s slick
She’s one of the best in the game
This girl’s no jerk
I’ve seen her work
She’s nice and she can use her head
And she’s good with her crack
From a long way’s back
And she’s done made me a whole lot of bread.”

Now, Vann was sporting a Panama Straw
Had a Corona-producto stuck out the side of his jaw
He wore a beige silk suit
That looked real silky
And my man was dressed like to make Rockefeller feel guilty

Now I was pressed, I must confess
Although I couldn’t compare with Vann
It’s not that his taste is better than mine
Just that he is the big money man
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“Hey, fellows,” Doriella said
“I’m starving as can be
How about a bite to eat?”

So we all agreed
On a fabulous feed
Down at the Waldorf
Now the Waldorf was blowing
In bright neon light
Although this was my first flight
We were all clean as the board of health
Three players, that’s true
In rainbows of blue
And we painted a picture of wealth
Now as we were dining
Vann started unwinding
He began to run his mouth off to me

But as we left
I dug his woman, Doriella Du Fontaine
Was standing pinning on me
“Hey fellow,” Doriella said
“Since we met I’m glad
So here’s the address to my pad.”

So next Saturday
I got real fly
And I went to see Miss Du Fontaine
I stopped off at my main man Jaws
He dealt in snow
And I copped me some cocaine
Now I got to her pad
Jim it was some kind of bad
It was really a bar set
She had a 5-inch carpet
Which was limited in a market
Somewhere from the far-East Orient
The high file was sailin’
And I wasn’t failing
But I just couldn’t rap to this queen

She dug my feet was cold
And took a tigh hold
And gave me some pot, Chicago Green
She said “You be my man
And together we’ll trick the land
And I’ll be your true-blue bitch
Although you’ll have to show me to those other squares
I’ll take their dough and make you rich.”

Now you know where I’m at!
I really went for that
And I put this fine ho in her bed
Me and this queen made love supreme
And I flipped when she gave me some head

Now, next Saturday round one
We were out having fun
At the club known as the Island of Joy
When in walked Dixie Fair
Drugstore millionaire
International playboy
“Hey, fellow,” Dixie said, “
Who’s that fine model in red?
Why I’ll give you a fee, if you introduce her to me.”

So I did, and my woman, D, she did the rest

“Next morning in bed horse honey she said
I can beat Dixie for all his bread
But you have to wait patiently
Like a hustler on the sunny lands of New Mexico
Because I don’t want you around
When I take off this clown
And I get him hung up in my den
But when I pull through
Baby, I’ll come straight to you
And you’ll never have to hustle again.”

So the next morning
I jumped in my $500 dollar grey silk vine
Downed me an ice cold pint of vine
I snatched my bank book
And I made reservations on TWA airline
Now, my stay wasn’t bad
I had a fabulous pad
I pulled plenty of fabulous hoes
I pulled Miss Carmen Vista
Who was huge in the Keister
And first cousin to Mexicali Rose

The climat was hot
And there was plenty of pot
And the tequila’s were dynamite
As I laid in my shack, on top of Carmen’s back
I had her on her knees all night
Now one morning
As I patiently waited
I got a telegram that stated
It said, “Papa daddy
I made a real grand slam
I’m on my way. TWA
Comet number 3
Be in New Mexico by four
Can’t say no more. Love, your fine woman, D.”

Comin’ then gave me a bath in ice cold milk
And I jumped in my $500 dollar grey silk
And downed me a pint of ice-cold wine
When I dug the New York news
That shook me in my shoes
With its bold daring headline..
It read Bulletin. Last night, Dixie Fair..
Drug store millionaire..
Committed suicide..
Left all his fame
To Miss Du Fontaine, stated to be his bride.”

So then I made a B line on down to the airport
Just in time to hear the announcer say
“Attention in the lobby
Attention in the Lobby:
Relatives and friends
All passengers on comet number 3
Wait no longer
For fate’s cruel hands
The good comet has crashed
Off the coast of Chili Sands
But wait! The rescuers said there was a woman alive!
Age 25…
Hair glassy black..
Eyes deep sea green-blues
Skin a boss dark hue
She said she was on her way
To her fine man in grey
Stated to be his bride
She would have been his true-blue bitch
And made him rich
But then she coughed up blood and died.”

Man! I pulled through
Like all damned stud’s due
But I know I’ll never be the same
Cause there’ll never be another Miss Doriella Du Fontaine
That’s her name Miss Du Fontaine
I’ll never be the same
Cause there’ll never be another Miss Doriella du Fontaine

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:21:51pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Trad wife” probably also imagines that when hubby starts beating her for thinking her position equal or greater than his and trying to assert authority in the household, she can just call the cops for domestic abuse and then take all his shit in the divorce.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:23:24pm

re: #122 calochortus

Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

Very much like libertarians in their thinking. They’ll be the rulers, not the ruled.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:23:35pm
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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:25:01pm
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calochortus  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:25:07pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

these trad wives keep trying to convince everyone else that this is all fine when they can’t, in reality, convince themselves (or their trad husbands)

Yeah, I don’t get the need to convince everyone that they’ve made the right life choices and you should make the same ones too. Having one spouse at home is something of a luxury these days, and depending on your circumstances it may or may not be the right choice even if it is possible. Mr. C. and I did what we thought was the right thing for our family, and our adult children are making the choices that are right for theirs. Full stop.

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Thanos  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:25:28pm

re: #93 Charles Johnson

I checked Google News and Cuomo is all over the right wing sites. No doubt what he was going for. They don’t give a shit about his sexual harassment.

How long before he’s got a Fox network show do you think?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:27:01pm

re: #107 Dr. Matt

The Left’s trash always becomes the Right’s gold: tRump, Cuomo, Denise Miller, Elmo, Weiner-Savage, etc.

Possibly the trashiest example: 60s Stalinist turned 21st century MAGAt David Horowitz .

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:27:25pm

Davos Man is a prestige class requiring rogue levels, so this actually makes sense.

ETA: note that a Twitter flag has been added with a correction that does present a different…and very likely true…account of what happened…100% my bad that I presented this uncritically. I’m not going to take this down because it’s a hole in the thread, and because it’s good to post your Ls.

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Crush White Nationalism  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:28:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:30:38pm
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Jay C  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:37:26pm

re: #100 PhillyPretzel

I would not give you 2¢ for twitter.

Would you reconsider if Elon accepted your offer?

Though after he’s done with it, two cents might be seen as an over generous valuation.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:38:58pm

re: #136 Jay C

You may be right. I would have to think about it.

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Dangerman  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:39:12pm

re: #122 calochortus

Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

so they won the marriage lottery //

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:43:14pm

Favorite sign from the protests so far:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:44:54pm

Internet Hall of Fame Twitter post (NSFW)

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:46:22pm
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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:47:53pm

The City is saying the water is safe until Monday evening.
whyy.org

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:47:55pm

re: #122 calochortus

Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

Trad wife is less an actual coherent assertion about gender or history and more a hash of cultural fetishization and just literal, get-you-hard- fetish imagery.

They’re not saying anything coherent about anything they post, it’s all about the penumbras of meaning cast by their unstated assumptions and the soft feelings: this is what you should be, the correct order of the world is you more than halfway up the social pyramid in pastoral bliss pay no attention to the gritty detail.

Marie Antoinette’s shepherdess costumes for people that buy four door trucks with tiny beds.

Schmaltz for fascist knobs.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:48:46pm

Pessimism incoming.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:49:25pm

re: #138 Dangerman

so they won the marriage lottery //

that’s what they keep trying to convince everyone else…

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Crush White Nationalism  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:51:54pm

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pessimism incoming.

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According to astrology, you’re very important, and your astrologer can even tell you how your day will go.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:56:26pm

re: #144 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pessimism incoming.

sounds like something from nihilist arby

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:57:36pm

Just got another Public Safety Alert that has re-stated what I read on WHYY’s website. The water is okay.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 2:57:58pm

re: #122 calochortus

Not to mention, this “good wife” apparently has control over either her own money, or unfettered access to the family accounts and is able to function autonomously in business decisions. Possibly not a “trad wife” ideal?

They Were Her Property

The secret ingredient is always hierarchy: if you’re a woman of the correct class you get autonomy, but only relative to those in classes below you.

Like…that’s my county of residence’s history and a lot of my family history…strong women who manage to do so pretty impressive stuff if you look at their individual achievements, but can do so because their class permits them some license, and the primary effect of their independence is applied downward.

The modern trad dumbasses aren’t thinking at that level of depth, though. It’s an aesthetic, a Thomas Kinkade painting. Trad wives and servants are both just magical thinking: sexy domovoi that magically make your domestic life effortless but also comfortable but also picture-pretty.

How many people actually try this and back out…particularly women? My guess is…many…because the aesthetic is like a throw rug over a trap door of male power/control fantasies.

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Markm1960  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:00:02pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

I thought this was all departments attitude.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:00:03pm

re: #149 The Ghost of a Flea

They Were Her Property

The secret ingredient is always hierarchy: if you’re a woman of the correct class you get autonomy, but only relative to those in classes below you.

Like…that’s my county of residence’s history and a lot of my family history…strong women who manage to do so pretty impressive stuff if you look at their individual achievements, but can do so because their class permits them some license, and the primary effect of their independence is applied downward.

Hence why so many people who burned money on “past life regressions” always magically end up somebody famous or of means.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:01:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:02:24pm

re: #151 Targetpractice

Hence why so many people who burned money on “past life regressions” always magically end up somebody famous or of means.

And why conservatives always punch down. It is much easier and in the past, much less likely to get you killed.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:03:12pm
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Barefoot Grin  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:03:40pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

Monitoring group: Chicago Police officers are taught their lives are more important than community safet

My sister used to live next to a multigenerational family of cops and firefighters in Chicago. They were really good to her. One day my truck’s battery failed when I was parked on the street in front of her house and one of the cop sons came out to help me. I was grateful for the jump. That day there was a scheduled protest over something—I think it was a teachers’ union thing. He said, “my buddy rides in the vehicle at the front of the protest; I wish I could sit up there with a _______ (some high-powered rifle I can’t remember) and shoot those hippies down.”

I don’t think he cared whether it was a teachers’ union or some other “progressive” protest.

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Targetpractice  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:04:53pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And why conservatives always punch down. It is much easier and in the past, much less likely to get you killed.

And why so many of them are so bitter, that their privilege is slowly being eroded and all their efforts to restore it are being met with resistance in a world where they are a shrinking minority.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:07:11pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Possibly the trashiest example: 60s Stalinist turned 21st century MAGAt David Horowitz .

Yes. That guy ranks among the worst. (or worts, as I originally spelled it.)

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:09:26pm

re: #29 sizzzzlerz

There’s class warfare, all right. But it’s my class, the rich class, that’s waging it.

And we’re winning. - Warren Buffet

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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:11:16pm

1AM in these parts, and protesters are still flooding the streets:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:13:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:14:00pm

re: #159 (((Archangel1)))

1AM in these parts, and protesters are still flooding the streets:

That’s a lot of people.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:16:18pm
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calochortus  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:16:53pm

re: #149 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m pretty sure that wives everywhere, through all time have had wildly varying independence, power, and influence depending on local laws and expectations, class, value to the family and community at large, and very importantly, who they married and what that relationship was like.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:18:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:20:01pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:20:40pm

Haaretz, a few minutes ago, opinion piece:

Netanyahu Is Now Pyromaniac-in-chief of a Government of Arsonists

“Netanyahu has made it clear to Israel that he is not only prepared to risk a constitutional crisis, but he is willing to take on the entire security establishment just so he can pass a law that allows his coalition to pick the next Supreme Court justices” (more)

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:21:49pm

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And why conservatives always punch down. It is much easier and in the past, much less likely to get you killed.

I think it’s also, in their culture, their patrimony.

We live in a strange time where a lot of people alive have lived with the idea that explicit language of inherent superiority/inferiority is outlier behavior—that’s how culture has digested and reproduced far more complicated historical developments that proposed equality of dignity for all—but it used to be pretty damn ubiquitous that you’d talk about people as types with generalizable qualia that can be sorted into superior/inferior groupings.

I bang on here pretty routinely about how America has never really reckoned with the way eugenics was injected into its politics and culture…to the point that “meritocracy” frequently dips its feet in heritable worth and even liberals getting fucking weird about region and family line…but for modern reactionaries, there’s a rage that the old sorting system was discarded, but “the truth” should be that they would have been a superior type and thus permitted to succeed. The world…and particularly their putative inferiors…deserves the stochastic cruelty reactionaries throw out, but also that violence is a restoration of what should be.

And it’s all incoherent, inside each reactionary there’s an org chart and their base assumption is they’re in the top third…but if you compare all the org charts they don’t form a consistent model of “the caste system that should be.” Hence the endless, “well, I didn’t expect my face to get eaten” repetition that never seems to teach anybody anything.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:22:35pm

Speaking of Republican vehicle perception, I still haven’t bought a new pickup for the Conspiracy Compound. I have given up looking, at least temporarily, for fear of catastrophic sticker shock.
43 year old Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow- $12 000 (in 2011)
2023 Ford F250 crew cab 4x4- ca. $103,000

Eeeekkk! My initial reaction: “Holy shit! That’s a goddamn fortune! How are there so many of these things running around out there? How do people pay for them?”
The answer of course is creative financing. (“A thousand down and a thousand a month for a thousand years!” to paraphrase and update Cheech and Chong).
A neighbor’s 19 year old son is making $1100 a month payments on some sort of pickup. Lives at home because he can’t afford an apartment.
Personally I would rather drive a wheezy, rusted ‘96 Nissan and have my own place to live than drive a Ferrari and have to live with family.

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:27:00pm

All news related Twitter accounts need to have their state featured prominantly:

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:27:28pm

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’d hate to drive something that cost that much, just on general principals. At over 100K is it gold plated? Or is that just what the market will bear?

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:27:29pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:28:37pm

Well, I guess Twitter’s valuation is likely to be less than $20 Billion by market close tomorrow afternoon

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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:30:37pm

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Haaretz, a few minutes ago, opinion piece:

Netanyahu Is Now Pyromaniac-in-chief of a Government of Arsonists

“Netanyahu has made it clear to Israel that he is not only prepared to risk a constitutional crisis, but he is willing to take on the entire security establishment just so he can pass a law that allows his coalition to pick the next Supreme Court justices” (more)

He’s counting on the fact that he can only be removed by force, and that even a crowd that size won’t try to do it.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:31:16pm

re: #129 jaunte

They support any idea that gives them power.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:32:56pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Possibly the trashiest example: 60s Stalinist turned 21st century MAGAt David Horowitz .

Not much of a change, really.

Rather like the difference between a copperhead and a ware moccasin.

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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:34:08pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:34:56pm

No trivial thing, this:

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:37:03pm

re: #170 calochortus

I’d hate to drive something that cost that much, just on general principals. At over 100K is it gold plated? Or is that just what the market will bear?

I think it’s what the market will bear. Pickups are big but fairly simple structurally and mechanically with long intervals between styling and other updates. They are relatively cheap to manufacture and that makes them a high profit item, appealing to those who equate value with how much space it takes up. The kid who makes the $1100 payments is 5’6” and can barely climb into the monster. If he were my age he would need a step ladder.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:37:07pm

re: #168 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Speaking of Republican vehicle perception, I still haven’t bought a new pickup for the Conspiracy Compound. I have given up looking, at least temporarily, for fear of catastrophic sticker shock.
43 year old Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow- $12 000 (in 2011)
2023 Ford F250 crew cab 4x4- ca. $103,000

Eeeekkk! My initial reaction: “Holy shit! That’s a goddamn fortune! How are there so many of these things running around out there? How do people pay for them?”
The answer of course is creative financing. (“A thousand down and a thousand a month for a thousand years!” to paraphrase and update Cheech and Chong).
A neighbor’s 19 year old son is making $1100 a month payments on some sort of pickup. Lives at home because he can’t afford an apartment.
Personally I would rather drive a wheezy, rusted ‘96 Nissan and have my own place to live than drive a Ferrari and have to live with family.

I mentioned a few months ago that MrBWS is a victim of identity theft (I’m still doing tidying up with that) and one of the fraud events was a Chrysler Capital letter informing us that, unfortunately, they declined his request for an extension of credit. That was actually a huge relief, but still waiting to hear details on that.

In any event, one of the things we did was put a 7 year fraud alert and a credit freeze on all of his credit report accounts.

As MrBWS said to me, “I’m retired and there’s no fucking way I’m gonna take out a loan for a vehicle that costs more than what you paid for this farm 30 years ago.”

We have so many pre-computer vehicle restoration projects here, we’ll be just fine not buying anything new

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calochortus  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:38:03pm

Daughter and grandkids should be dropping by soon, so I’d better take care of a few things first. Catch you all later.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:40:49pm

re: #159 (((Archangel1)))

Watch for Trump to start using that clip to show how well his rallies are attended.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:42:30pm

re: #59 Joe Bacon

And then Gym Neighbors will subpoena Smith…

That would be a mistake. Smith would then be asked by Jordan what dirt he has on him, and Smith, being an honest man, won’t lie under oath and Jordan will immediately call for the hearing to be classified.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:42:46pm

re: #120 William Lewis

Holy catfish batman…

Does the Israeli constitution allow impeachment?

The Knesset holds a vote of no-confidence and if it passes, there are new elections.

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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:44:49pm

My Facebook pal Cris Shaman strikes again with another magazine parody!

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:44:56pm
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Joe Bacon  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:47:48pm

Joe Exotic, the star of Netflix’s docuseries Tiger King, announced this month that he is running for president in 2024 as a Libertarian Party challenger to President Joe Biden and alternative to former President Donald Trump. He also revealed that he wants ex-Congresswoman Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) to be his running mate.

Joseph Allen Maldonado is serving a twenty-two-year prison sentence after being convicted for nearly two dozen crimes, including animal abuse and attempted murder. But that is not stopping him from making his case to the American public. Maldonado believes that his lengthy stint in the slammer makes him uniquely qualified to serve as commander-in-chief. The United States Constitution does not explicitly forbid such a scenario.

Nonetheless, on Sunday’s edition of Cross Country, Fox News host Lawrence Jones scored an exclusive interview with Maldonado.

alternet.org

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:48:33pm

re: #120 William Lewis

Holy catfish batman…

Does the Israeli constitution allow impeachment?

Israel does not have a constitution, at least according to the Knesset

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:50:38pm

re: #178 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I recall hearing on the notJustBikes You Tube channel that American auto manufacturers build almost nothing but SUVs and pickups. Because they are in high demand and very profitable.

They’re also responsible for an outlandish number of death and injury by motorized vehicles.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:52:47pm

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Mar 26, 2023 • 3:53:23pm

re: #130 calochortus

Trad wives like @solieoso are also Christian nationalists at heart. Therefore, you must submit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:03:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:06:02pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:10:19pm

Looks like it’s going to rain next Wed-Thu.

Then the following week is showing rain also i the models.

Then possibly a week later.

This has been quite the rainy season.

We’re at twice our yearly average for precipitation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:11:55pm
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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:12:01pm
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Belafon  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:12:48pm

Deleted. The numbers are kind of loose.

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bratwurst  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:13:32pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

My fear is that all of this “people power” in the streets will merely serve to slow down Netanyahu at best.

The record of people in the street affecting serious change in the course of government in the 21st century is…well…not good. I cannot think of a single enduring example. Please feel free to correct me if I am forgetting one.

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:16:48pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

He took it down

They are officially a cult.

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:17:46pm

A couple of usual suspects with a 35mm lens I rarely use…

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:18:03pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:18:10pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon

Oh I’d love to see than 3 way debate vs. DeSantis and Rump. 😂😂😂

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:18:23pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:18:50pm
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sizzzzlerz  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:21:09pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

Monitoring group: Chicago Police officers are taught their lives are more important than community safet

Yeah, fuck that taking a bullet to save a schoolchild’s life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:23:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:24:02pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:26:03pm

re: #172 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Well, I guess Twitter’s valuation is likely to be less than $20 Billion by market close tomorrow afternoon

New York Times
@nytimes
Parts of Twitter’s source code, the underlying computer code on which the social network runs, were leaked — a rare and major exposure of intellectual property as the company struggles to reduce technical issues and reverse its fortunes under Elon Musk. nyti.ms

I figure there’s an undocumented Mac Mini sitting in a Twitter closet running some sort of cron program. And Twitter will limp along until someone finds it, “hmm what does this do”, and unplugs it.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:27:52pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jose Andres truly is a wonderful person.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:28:19pm

re: #204 sizzzzlerz

Yeah, fuck that taking a bullet to save a schoolchild’s life.

Looks like “protect” is gone from the motto “To Serve and Protect”. And I sometimes wonder who they are “serving”.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:29:17pm

Mastodon

SEVERAL MONTHS

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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:30:27pm

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Looks like “protect” is gone from the motto “To Serve and Protect”. And I sometimes wonder who they are “serving”.

The same ones they were created to serve - the 1%. If you aren’t a rich, straight, white male they care less than the phone company.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:31:28pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

SEVERAL MONTHS

Someone in Bumfuck Nowherelandia with a 300 baud modem could have downloaded it in that time.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:32:28pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

SEVERAL MONTHS

I mean really, the entire company by now is probably not worth even $1 Billion even if the last stapler and box of staples were sold off. This must be a record pace of running a $44B company into the ground in the entirety of human history.

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PhillyPretzel  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:33:38pm

re: #213 Florida Panhandler

How to ruin a company in a few months.

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Nerdy Fish  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:34:11pm

re: #213 Florida Panhandler

I mean really, the entire company by now is probably not worth even $1 Billion even if the last stapler and box of staples were sold off. This must be a record pace of running a $44B company into the ground in the entirety of human history.

It was never worth the $44B Elno paid for it, even. That was why the sale ultimately went through; he essentially made them an offer they couldn’t refuse. He was underwater on his investment from Day Fucking One.

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A Cranky One  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:34:31pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:40:20pm

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

Looks like “protect” is gone from the motto “To Serve and Protect”. And I sometimes wonder who they are “serving”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:40:53pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:43:26pm

I hope Bibi doesn’t feel any need to find out whose side of this the security forces are going to take. (Or he has tested those waters and already found out.)

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:45:32pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

SEVERAL MONTHS

I wish I could delete my Twitter account. Tried a few times but it throws errors when I do.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:46:32pm

The secretive Israeli think tank behind Netanyahu’s judicial overhaul

No snark…can anyone explain to me why this group would classify as libertarian?

Kohelet is Israel’s first American-style political think tank, employing 160 researchers who proactively court like-minded politicians with free research, bills and conference invitations. The libertarian, religiously conservative group has crafted some of the most controversial legal changes in recent years, all while remaining out of the public eye. But its behind-the-scenes role in the judicial overhaul has brought the think tank newfound scrutiny and highlighted what critics say is its outsize influence on Israeli politics.

Like, i absolutely mock US libertarians for their weird Social Darwinist shit, but I don’t see how they’re not just…reactionary. They’re not promoting any kind of laisse faire anything.

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:46:33pm

McCaul is a fool.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:47:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:48:29pm
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William Lewis  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:49:58pm

re: #221 The Ghost of a Flea

Libertarians are monarchists in disguise. They want feudalism because they have the fantasy that they won’t be serfs spending the rest of their miserable lives looking at the south end of a north bound plow-horse.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:52:33pm

re: #220 darthstar

I wish I could delete my Twitter account. Tried a few times but it throws errors when I do.

My understanding (I was never on Twitter) is the best way to do that is simply delete every post, change your bio to where you can be found instead, and change the password. That prevents someone from hijacking your name on Twitter to shitpost.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:54:49pm

re: #222 jaunte

Just what other countries want in a stable relationship: A crazy bastard who they can’t predict what they will do.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:56:18pm

re: #213 Florida Panhandler

I mean really, the entire company by now is probably not worth even $1 Billion even if the last stapler and box of staples were sold off. This must be a record pace of running a $44B company into the ground in the entirety of human history.

The company was not worth 44B in the first place. He way overpaid for it.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:56:22pm

Had some friends over for lunch today…Made the Bo Ssam recipe from Momofuko. Didn’t suck.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:58:11pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle tried turning it off and on again.

Wordle 646 4/6

🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜🟨🟨⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

It’s an interesting word. One of those “when you’ve eliminated the impossible” solutions.

SibData: 3,3,3,4,4

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 4:58:17pm

re: #225 William Lewis

Libertarians are monarchists in disguise. They want feudalism because they have the fantasy that they won’t be serfs spending the rest of their miserable lives looking at the south end of a north bound plow-horse.

Well, that’s sort of why the Von Mises caucus is in charge now. Also in a totally unrelated note, they share the same space and many board members with the League of the South.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:01:14pm

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:01:48pm

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

‘in the mines’

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gocart mozart  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:02:18pm

In case you were wondering what a cat turd looks like. (unverified)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:02:48pm

In other crazy religions news:

Dharamshala: The Dalai Lama has proclaimed a Mongolian boy born in US as the reincarnation of the third most important spiritual leader in Tibetan Buddhism.

The eight-year-old boy was pictured with the Dalai Lama at a ceremony that took place in Dharamshala in the Indian state of Himachal Pradesh.

Dharamshala is also the place where the Dalai Lama — Tenzin Gyatso -, 87, currently lives in exile and is recognised as the 10th Khalkha Jetsun Dhampa Rinpoche.

“We have the reincarnation of Khalkha Jetsun Dhampa Rinpoché of Mongolia with us today,” Dalai Lama told his followers present at the ceremony.

He added, “‘His predecessors had a close association with the Krishnacharya lineage of Chakrasamvara. One of them established a monastery in Mongolia dedicated to its practice. So, his being here today is quite auspicious.”

(more)

Just what an eight-year old from the USA needs: To be the spiritual leader of a monarchist movement of a language he doesn’t speak, while his twin brother is left in a weird position of being the brother of that spiritual leader.

No chance either could be exploited, I’m sure.

Dalai Lama names Mongolian boy as new Buddhist spiritual leader

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jaunte  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:03:31pm

re: #234 gocart mozart

Looks like he was cut out and dropped on a sharper background.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:04:45pm

re: #225 William Lewis

Libertarians are monarchists in disguise. They want feudalism because they have the fantasy that they won’t be serfs spending the rest of their miserable lives looking at the south end of a north bound plow-horse.

Who also have no real concept of how the power structure of a monarchy is stated to work. The king *OWNS EVERYTHING* and you have something simply because they have granted it to you in exchange for service or something else. And they can take it back if they want. (The actual power structures worked differently since the nobility generally had sufficient power blocs that an overbearing king could be stymied and there’d be enough revolts and relations waiting in the wings to get a new monarch.

And downturns in a lot of medieval kingdoms in Europe correspond strongly with poor or weak kings. Or a king who is in his minority and things are being run by some sort of regency council.

From what I’ve seen the basic concept beneath libertarianism is “Fuck you. I got mine.” since it’s parasitic and essentially warlordism. And from my history reading any “state” whose internal running is being done by warlords are generally weak and open to being exploited by their neighbors willing to employ force to do so. And those places are also generally not wonderful places for most of the populace to be living in.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:06:02pm

re: #232 Eventual Carrion

Keep calm and watch the clip, really

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jeffreyw  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:06:09pm

re: #229 darthstar

Had some friends over for lunch today…Made the Bo Ssam recipe from Momofuko. Didn’t suck.

[Embedded content]

Nice table. Had to look up the bo ssam recipe. Pork shoulder! Very nice, indeed.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:08:14pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

SEVERAL MONTHS

Released into the wild by a sacked software engineer who had been working on it for so long he knew it by heart.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:08:56pm

re: #234 gocart mozart

In case you were wondering what a cat turd looks like. (unverified)

Is that his urine in the jars behind him? :-)

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:09:27pm

re: #234 gocart mozart

In case you were wondering what a cat turd looks like. (unverified)

Is he saving his urine in mason jars?

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:09:45pm

re: #241 Eventual Carrion

Is that his urine in the jars behind him? :-)

Beat me by less than a mnute.

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darthstar  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:11:26pm

re: #239 jeffreyw

Nice table. Had to look up the bo ssam recipe. Pork shoulder! Very nice, indeed.

Made it in the crock pot overnight and finished in the oven. Having banh mi sandwiches for dinner with the leftovers.

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Dizzy  Mar 26, 2023 • 5:38:05pm

re: #219 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I hope Bibi doesn’t feel any need to find out whose side of this the security forces are going to take. (Or he has tested those waters and already found out.)

Since the ultra-religious are exempt from mandatory military service, the resentment is palpable within the more secular population and the military itself. If I were to guess, the military would land firmly on the anti-Bibi side.

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mmmirele  Mar 26, 2023 • 8:31:25pm

re: #186 Joe Bacon

Joe Exotic, the star of Netflix’s docuseries Tiger King, announced this month that he is running for president in 2024 as a Libertarian Party challenger to President Joe Biden and alternative to former President Donald Trump. He also revealed that he wants ex-Congresswoman Liz Cheney (R-Wyoming) to be his running mate.

Joseph Allen Maldonado is serving a twenty-two-year prison sentence after being convicted for nearly two dozen crimes, including animal abuse and attempted murder. But that is not stopping him from making his case to the American public. Maldonado believes that his lengthy stint in the slammer makes him uniquely qualified to serve as commander-in-chief. The United States Constitution does not explicitly forbid such a scenario.

Nonetheless, on Sunday’s edition of Cross Country, Fox News host Lawrence Jones scored an exclusive interview with Maldonado.

alternet.org

My brother and I had a discussion the other day about whether someone convicted of a felony could run for president. I said, “yup, sure can,” and noted that Eugene V. Debs was in prison for violating the Sedition Act but still ran for president on the Socialist Party ticket in 1920 and got 3.4 percent of the vote. I then added, “I think you have to be convicted of treason before you can’t run for president.” I don’t know how true it is, but my point here is that Why Yes, That Orange Guy Could Run For President From Rikers—There Is Precedent.


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