Joe Bonamassa Just Tears the Roof Off: “The Heart That Never Waits” (Live)

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Joe’s playing better than ever and really stretches out in this one, but don’t forget to hear what those backup singers are doing. And Josh Smith — a killer guitarist himself — holding down the rhythm. Amazing band.

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1
Cheechako  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:28:52pm

WOW! Our State Supreme Court (and State Constitution) really care:

Alaska Supreme Court, in landmark ruling, says partisan gerrymandering violates state constitution

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:30:02pm

Mastodon

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:30:15pm

Mastodon

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IngisKahn  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:30:21pm

Not obliterated, but close.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:33:45pm

re: #4 IngisKahn

Not obliterated, but close.

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Looks like something out of a Gerry Anderson Supermarionation show.

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nines09  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:34:28pm

Joe is at the top of his game. Always has the best of the best around him, sells out all over the world.
Oslo the other night.
And you will never hear him on the radio because he is beholden to no company an no contract because he makes his dime touring.
Rare talent, and by all accounts a good guy.
All I can say is see him at least once.
One more that sounds better live than any recording.
And I suspect one day there will be an actual Nerdville Museum of such spectacular guitars and amps of the rarest and important milestones that made rock and roll timeless.
He is a collector of fine and rare, and knows volumes on the history of all things amplified and strung.
He’s a power.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:36:35pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Wait until he refuses to let them delete their accounts.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:37:34pm

re: #69 retired cynic

Tan suit!!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:37:35pm

re: #20 JC1

I really hope that starship ends up working. It would be a game changer. SpaceX will learn from this and improve.

I don’t. I want to see Elon fail. SpaceX is not required for technological advancement. I would like to see SpaceX and Tesla stockholders sue the crap out of him, and Elon spend his way into irrelevence.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:38:52pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:40:37pm

re: #4 IngisKahn

Not obliterated, but close.

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From what I’m reading, one of the innovations of SpaceX >IS< the launch pad, as they do the assembly of the rocket there, allowing for thinner superstructure, allowing for bigger payloads and re-use.

If he totaled the launchpad, that’s really not good news.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:40:40pm

re: #7 darthstar

Wait until he refuses to let them delete their accounts.

Even death won’t set you free from the Musk blue checkmark

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Teukka  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:43:41pm
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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:44:55pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:45:06pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Before this shit with dril, you could argue he was trying to capture value for his social media site—setting aside that neither he nor his flying monkeys seem to understand that the value of Twitter comes from the free content generated by high-power users, that’s the thing that appeals to ad-buyers—but at this I’d default to the Occam’s Razor of billionaires…he wants it and nobody will tell him no.

This is entirely pettiness with no guiding theorem, much like banning that flight tracker and trying to inflate it to assassination while using an unrelated frightening event that happened to Grimes as a prop. Twitter is the medium through which he gets to dictate reality to other people, and the folks that said aloud they want to lose their verification are fucking with his groove. dril has pissed him off and now he’s going to show who’s in charge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:45:42pm

he thinks he is so clever

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:47:17pm

Right now we’re boogie oogie oogieing….

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nines09  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:47:32pm

20 years ago Joe announced he had arrived. He has since said he wished he would have done better on this, but it got my attention.

Joe Bonamassa - Blues Deluxe

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:48:06pm
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IngisKahn  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:49:39pm

So they had a water cooled, steel pad and water deluge system ready to be installed, but decided to go ahead with the launch instead of waiting for installation. When they ran a static fire with 1/3 of the engines at 50% there was very little damage, so they thought what’s the worst that could happen?

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:50:42pm

re: #14 Dangerman

Kings of Chaos autographed guitar is still only 300 bucks. When does the auction end? Looks like a good discount opportunity.

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:53:16pm

re: #21 darthstar

Kings of Chaos autographed guitar is still only 300 bucks. When does the auction end? Looks like a good discount opportunity.

9pm

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:54:07pm

I’m sitting nezt to a young Ukrainian woman

It’s too much to explain tonight….

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:55:50pm

re: #23 Dangerman

I’m sitting nezt to a young Ukrainian woman

It’s too much to explain tonight….

So, there’s time tomorrow….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:56:14pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:57:06pm
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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:59:08pm

re: #22 Dangerman

9pm

Two minutes to go.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 5:59:41pm

re: #20 IngisKahn

So they had a water cooled, steel pad and water deluge system ready to be installed, but decided to go ahead with the launch instead of waiting for installation. When they ran a static fire with 1/3 of the engines at 50% there was very little damage, so they thought what’s the worst that could happen?

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That may not be total destruction, but it’ll do ‘til total destruction gets here.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:01:11pm

re: #13 Teukka

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:01:57pm

Someone off to my east (not that close) just unloaded a magazine of pistol ammo. Hope it’s stupid celebratory fire and not someone getting wounded or killed.

Highway and a shopping center and businesses located in that rough direction.

And a few minutes later another 30 shots from that direction. Initially rapid and dropping off to single shots every few seconds.

And a minute later another burst of shots.

Rapidity makes me doubt it is fireworks of any kind. I also note that the local high school football field and community park are roughly in that bearing as well.

(I doubt it’s a mass shooting. But also not something I expected at 9pm on a Saturday night in April.)

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:03:44pm

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:04:17pm

Ukraine relief guitar (on the table) $250

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:09:37pm

BoingBoing, April 19, 2023

She refers to ten year-old girls as “women.”

Ohio Right to Life leader says 9-year-old rape victims must be forced to carry their rapist’s babies to term

In a vile example of the depths to which anti-abortion activists will stoop to push their agenda, Cincinnati Right to Life leader Laura Strietmann employed misinformation during her proponent testimony at an Ohio House Constitutional Resolutions Committee hearing to protect women’s reproductive rights in the state. Strietmann sought to leverage a harrowing case of a 9-year-old rape victim to argue against abortion, asserting that the child’s body was designed to carry life and that the abortionist failed to report the crime.

“I know that a 10-year-old might not understand pregnancy, but I also know that a 10-year-old understands life and playing with dolls,” Streitmen said. “I know when my daughter was ten years old, she cried and begged for a little sister or a baby. And while a pregnancy might have been difficult on a 10-year-old body, a woman’s body is designed to carry life. That is a biological fact. It is not designed to have disgusting death instruments remove her preborn child from her womb. Both situations would be difficult. But we know for a fact that every single time life wins. And that, again, is a statistical fact. It’s a terrible, tragic situation. And we must do better to protect children from that kind of difficult situation that allows such heinous horrible abuse. And I’m sorry the abortionist did not report the rape. And I’m sorry that the mother permitted this.”

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:10:55pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:13:24pm

You can bet that if it was Ms Right To Life’s 10 year old daughter in that situation Ms. Right To Life would hustle her off to a clinic out of state and keep it on the down low.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:14:40pm

re: #35 Joe Bacon

You can bet that if it was Ms Right To Life’s 10 year old daughter in that situation Ms. Right To Life would hustle her off to a clinic out of state and keep it on the down low.

“The only moral abortion is my abortion.”—Conservatives and Christians

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:15:32pm

re: #36 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“We never mention that word, much less Your Unfortunate Event.”

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gwangung  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:15:44pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

BoingBoing, April 19, 2023

She refers to ten year-old girls as “women.”

Ohio Right to Life leader says 9-year-old rape victims must be forced to carry their rapist’s babies to term

(more)

It’s a biological fact that human bodies can carry weights, but I sure as hell wouldn’t make a one year old carry a hundred pound weight.

What a monster.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:18:32pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:22:04pm
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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:23:56pm

re: #32 Dangerman

Ukraine relief guitar (on the table) $250

I’d walk out the door with that one. Actual collector’s item.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:28:38pm

Federal judge: Mississippi must allow religious exemptions for vaccine deniers

Guess what club that judge belongs to!

friendlyatheist.substack.com

In a wildly irresponsible move, a federal judge has ordered the state of Mississippi to allow religious people to avoid childhood vaccinations as a prerequisite to enter public schools. Whether or not the conservative Christian plaintiffs will ever admit it, this lawsuit will make public schools less safe by making it easier for measles and other diseases to make a return.

U.S. District Judge Sul Ozerden, a right-wing judge and member of the Federalist Society, said that state law permits vaccine exemptions for medical reasons, which are secular, therefore the state must permit religious exemptions too.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:30:59pm

I wonder if all this bullshit with the check marks will be what finally sinks Twitter?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:31:53pm

[deleted by me]

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Dave In Austin  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:31:54pm

Storms to the NW coming this way.
Also, 1st firefly of the year.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:34:49pm

Mastodon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:35:17pm

Let’s try that again. The bottom got cut off.

That worked.

Skirts
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Moe Avattar  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:35:46pm

re: #39 jaunte

Probably a favor for the Twitter investors in the Saudi royal family.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:41:14pm

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:41:18pm

By design.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:42:56pm

Gerrymandering the trolls. How Republican.

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:44:07pm

Usain bolt’s spikes went for $5k

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:45:57pm

My fellow Colorado native (Davram grew up in Grand Junction) being a funny guy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:46:47pm

Thunderstorms in Brooklyn. Yankee game tomorrow with my son.

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:46:55pm

$12k for a Preakness package
Included private jet etc

Mrsdm says “wtf it’s Baltimore”

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:47:23pm

Mastodon

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Semper Fi  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:48:11pm

re: #54 I Would Prefer Not To

Thunderstorms in Brooklyn. Yankee game tomorrow with my son.

Hope it clears up for ya.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:49:14pm

re: #57 Semper Fi

Hope it clears up for ya.

Supposed to be sunny by game time. 1:30 PM

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:49:42pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

This is the darkest thing I’ve posted on the internet in some time.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:55:18pm

re: #33 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When voters elected Republicans, they knew what they were getting: heartless bastards who don’t give a damn about children or babies. So here we are.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:56:26pm

re: #34 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She keeps saying “that’s a FACT!” since some of what she’s saying can’t be a fact by definition as it’s subjective or opinion.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 6:57:48pm

This time of year (right before and after my birthday, incidentally) my mood always gets funky. It’s the cabin fever and going from skiing three days a week to “you can’t ski again for five months.”

I couldn’t ski at A-Basin yesterday, roads closed over Vail Pass due to spun out semis.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:00:39pm

re: #55 Dangerman

$12k for a Preakness package
Included private jet etc

Mrsdm says “wtf it’s Baltimore”

Been to the Preakness, guest of some VC’s. It was rumored that there were horses involved somewhere there. But darned if I could find them.

Lots of other stuff happening, though. They had some models wandering around wearing 1890’s dresses. One was wearing a hat with a 3ft horizontal brim. That extended far past her shoulders… It was quite effective at keeping everybody far from her.

Mostly what was happening was drinking, though.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:01:10pm

I don’t know what is worse, Mormons proxy-baptizing Holocaust victims or Onle Skum pinning blue check badges on dead celebrities.

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Semper Fi  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:04:18pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

This time of year (right before and after my birthday, incidentally) my mood always gets funky. It’s the cabin fever and going from skiing three days a week to “you can’t ski again for five months.”

I couldn’t ski at A-Basin yesterday, roads closed over Vail Pass due to spun out semis.

Would be nice to have friends in New Zealand.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:04:22pm

And Tomorrow’s Wordle slowly becomes Today’s as the terminator inexorably sweeps east.

Click to Reveal

IMO not a case of “too many choices” this time.

Wordle 673 4/6

⬜🟨⬜🟩⬜
⬜⬜🟨🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟨🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,4,4,5

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:04:35pm

He actually did it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:04:58pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:07:05pm

New trend with some independent ski areas? Would suck.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:07:31pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

YC = Yellowstone Club

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:10:31pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:11:13pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:20:05pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

Johnny Depp dropped $3 million to make HST’s funeral happen. John Kerry, Ed Bradley, and Bob Dylan were among the attendees of the approx. 100 person private ceremony on HST’s property in rural Pitkin County, CO. The cannon they used while it stood was the tallest structure west of the Continental Divide in Colorado. Pitkin County commissioners put the kibosh on making it a permanent structure.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:47:52pm

that shit with @dril and Onle Skum tonight was seriously some of the funniest shit i’ve seen LIVE on the Internet in a long time. @dril was brilliant and funny and tonight he proved why he is legendary on Twitter

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:48:40pm

slave to Woke

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:50:42pm

On my banned @teleskiguy and my current burner account @ballfootski I *never* followed @dril. But he showed up. Because he was good.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2023 • 7:59:28pm

re: #67 teleskiguy

I used to love doing things on mushrooms. Baseball games were especially good for tripping ballz. Movies have never been a good choice.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:02:22pm
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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:03:56pm

re: #62 teleskiguy

This time of year (right before and after my birthday, incidentally) my mood always gets funky. It’s the cabin fever and going from skiing three days a week to “you can’t ski again for five months.”

I couldn’t ski at A-Basin yesterday, roads closed over Vail Pass due to spun out semis.

My brother’s solution to that problem is Chile.

skimag.com

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Dangerman  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:05:43pm

I only had one glass of wine tonight

Ok it was bottomless

And now that we’re home , so am I

It’s convenient living 10 minutes from the great guitar. Even though we rarely go there.

Walking through the casino scene was wow…you could smell the desperation

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:06:18pm
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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:11:56pm
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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:19:08pm

If you were wondering when Russia was going to try to destabilize Moldova -

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:19:09pm

Mastodon

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:23:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:25:17pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:25:53pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:28:21pm

re: #87 teleskiguy

The country was founded by slaveholders who wanted to be free and made sure the most powerful people had the guns. That’s why.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:28:27pm

re: #85 ckkatz

Tbh, it’s about bleeding time that we stopped obeying unjust laws. If SCOTUS eventually rules that women can’t access abortion pills or otherwise moves to ban abortions on a national level, President Biden shouldn’t use federal law enforcement to enforce that decision. Treat SCOTUS’ extremist rulings like the Dred Scott decision.

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piratedan  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:30:54pm

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

if this shit keeps up, we’re heading down the path where the Feds are going to have to remove State governments because they’re committing insurrection by ignoring Federal authority. It’s whole States Rights bullshit all over again.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:33:14pm

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:34:29pm

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:36:37pm

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

Tbh, it’s about bleeding time that we stopped obeying unjust laws. If SCOTUS eventually rules that women can’t access abortion pills or otherwise moves to ban abortions on a national level, President Biden shouldn’t use federal law enforcement to enforce that decision. Treat SCOTUS’ extremist rulings like the Dred Scott decision.

I agree with you.

I’m trying to figure out how to say this correctly.

Democracy isn’t a suicide pact. If fascists like Alito work to subvert , corrupt and destroy the legal system and other democratic institutions, there comes a time when supporters of democracy will need to stop permitting this destruction and to pushback.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:38:22pm

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:43:37pm

I’m not sure how much of a progressive Tom Nichols is. However, I agree with his point that we cannot permit the destruction of the institutions that preserve our democracy.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:46:50pm

re: #95 ckkatz

I’m not sure how much of a progressive Tom Nichols is. However, I agree with his point that we cannot permit the destruction of the institutions that preserve our democracy.

not progressive at all. He’s a never-trumper conservative when that actually meant “conservative”. He supports the Constitution and democracy and the institutions, even if that sometimes (like today) means siding with people he disagrees with on everything else.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:53:37pm

re: #96 sagehen

not progressive at all. He’s a never-trumped conservative when that actually meant “conservative”. He supports the Constitution and democracy and the institutions, even if that sometimes (like today) means siding with people he disagrees with on everything else.

That is what I was thinking.

I agree that preserving the institutions of democracy is the priority. Disagreements over policy are secondary to that.

I disagree with his secondary presumption that only conservatives preserve democratic institutions. Progressives have a long and strong history of supporting democratic institutions. And in improving them. And in serving this country in all ways. Including in the military.

But we will need every ally we can find if we want to preserve our democracy.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 8:58:04pm

I think our institutions of democracy are pretty fucking borked by design, allowing minority rule.

We have to “protect them” from being used to further concentrate minority rule, but we’re also going have to consider some pretty revolutionary changes or the same pattern is just going to keep repeating.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:09:30pm

re: #98 The Ghost of a Flea

All we need is a constitutional convention or to pass a few amendments.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:15:16pm

re: #95 ckkatz

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:20:59pm

Looks like the US has evacuated the American Embassy in Sudan

WaPo - U.S. evacuates embassy personnel and families from Sudan, Biden says

The U.S. military completed the evacuation of all American embassy personnel and family members from Sudan early Sunday local time, President Biden said, as rival military factions battled for control of the country amid a sharp uptick in casualties in Africa’s third-largest nation.

WaPo - Gift Link

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:21:51pm

re: #100 Belafon

Very gently done! But right on point.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:22:53pm

re: #99 Belafon

That would be nice.

ETA;

To be less vague and not-smarmy, I should add that I don’t mean a convention up above, I mean we’re going to have to organize, protest, strike, and otherwise fucking hound politicians within the status quo, because the rules-as-written already let minority rule happen and will permit further minority rule if the rules are parsed in bad faith.

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piratedan  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:23:43pm

re: #97 ckkatz

as I wondered aloud above, I fully believe that the Right thinks that they can continue to push their envelope and keep performing a soft coup using the levers of power that they already have.

Witness the bullshit that we’ve seen from SCOTUS where we’ve had no less than 4 judges publicly state that Roe is settled law and then turn around using a transparent fig leaf to kick it aside on some incredibly dubious grounds… essentially perjuring themselves in Senate hearings for a position, once obtained that has no checks and balances upon it.

We see a GOP led Congress STILL trying to protect their impeached and indicted President for no apparent reason other than because he’s a Republican, there’s no way that he’s committed those crimes (that he’s publicly admitted to) and who cares even if he did.

Do you honestly believe that Mitch McConnell thinks that there should be any limits on GOP control, fuck no, we have a nearly 90 year old Diane Feinstein who would like to serve out her term (and hey, she’s earned it despite my own thoughts that she should step down) but won’t allow a replacement because the rules allow him to be a dick and block it and even that towering obelisk of morality Mitt Romney said fuck no to that noise….

we have bumfuck judges centered in Lubbock trying to fuck over the authority of the FDA to regulate its own agency while lying about his positions in previously undisclosed positions and the little something about making a donation to Sen. Hawley’s campaign to get his sanction.

With all of that, we see Tennessee, Missouri, Idaho, Montana, Iowa, Florida and Texas all going full metal wingnut attempting to impose their will on people travelling from state to state for medical care because they’re so fucking intent on implementing The Handmaid’s Tale into a reality.

We’re inching closer to the precipice where Joe may actually have to call in the National Guard to bring these asshats under control. We may actually see another coup and shooting in the streets because of these fascist fucks. I can only imagine what will happen if the DOJ ever drops the dime and serves indictments on the J6 events that include legislators who aided, abetted, assisted and planned the coup. Can you imagine the outcry seeing Jordan, Hawley, Cruz, Biggs, Tuberville, Gosar, Greene, Boebert et al being arrested? (while I may have to have a cigarette after typing that, it really is a truly scary possibility and the ripple effect is going to be something to see and quite possibly not in a way that any of us could ever anticipate)

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:27:42pm

re: #99 Belafon

All we need is a constitutional convention or to pass a few amendments.

Heh.

I spent much of my career in software maintenance. And everytime I heard someone say we should completely rewrite software that had been validated, accepted by the customer and tested through years of use… I involuntarily cringe and usually get a twitch in my eye.

And that is the same reaction I have to folks who want to call a “Constitutional Convention”. They apparently believe that they will have the same say and input that billionaires would.

And of course the libertarians who seem to believe that they can reinvent hundreds of years of agreements, negotiations, and the experience of hundreds of millions of people, on the fly in a few days.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:30:09pm

re: #99 Belafon

All we need is a constitutional convention or to pass a few amendments.

Beware. That is what the Koch, Mercers and the billionaires want because their goal is to call a Convention to weaken the Federal government and give more power to the states.

Why? Because it’s easier to buy off state legislators.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:36:54pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon

GMTA Joe!

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:38:17pm

re: #106 Joe Bacon

Beware. That is what the Koch, Mercers and the billionaires want because their goal is to call a Convention to weaken the Federal government and give more power to the states.

Why? Because it’s easier to buy off state legislators.

No, I completely get it. We’re just going to have to find ways to undo the Supreme Court so we can fix things in Texas and Florida among others, and we really need to end the electoral college.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:43:20pm

re: #107 ckkatz

Don’t forget that the Mercers financed Hot Wheels book where he called for a return to the Articles of Confederation. This is a plan they have been working on ever since the Powell memorandum was drafted in 1971.

Unfortunately they’ve duped folks like Carpetbagger Cenk and his WolfPAC which are also calling for a Constitutional Convention.

If a convention is called based on legal precedent from 1787 EVERYTHING is on the table. They can rewrite the entire Constitution to ensure white minority rule and then thanks to the corrupted Court they can pour billions of dollars into 26 states to get the new Constitution ratified.

But the current Constitution calls for 3/4 of the states to ratify amendments? Put that aside and remember that the 1787 Constitution overrode the requirement of the Articles of Confederation that EVERY state had to ratify any proposed amendment.

With a billionaire bought convention they can lower the ratification to 26.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:48:44pm

tonight’s PBS movie — “Yours, Mine and Ours” (1968)

Lucille Ball is a widow with 8 children, Henry Fonda is a widower with 10 children. They fall in love, get married, and have another kid. The first movie from Desilu studios (which had previously been just TV). Desilu has since, through various buyouts and mergers, become Paramount+.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:49:45pm

I was just thinking, there were 3 amendments after the Civil War. A war that cost a million lives out of a population of 31.4 million.

The Great Depression , which almost collapsed the country, brought 2 Amendments. One of which clarified elections and succession of Federal officials. The other was to reverse Prohibition.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:52:17pm

re: #110 sagehen

tonight’s PBS movie — “Yours, Mine and Ours” (1968)

Lucille Ball is a widow with 8 children, Henry Fonda is a widower with 10 children. They fall in love, get married, and have another kid. The first movie from Desilu studios (which had previously been just TV). Desilu has since, through various buyouts and mergers, become Paramount+.

Breakfast OMG. 2 gallons of oatmeal, 2 gallons of milk, 3 dozen eggs, 4 rashers of bacon, a loaf of toast… every single day.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:56:02pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon

Yes, we are running a good bit of risk right now. And I suspect that the political paralysis is benefiting a lot of very wealthy folks.

Hopefully voters start to realize this. And maybe conclude that they have been scammed by the GOP and that not voting for folks like the email lady was a major mistake.

If we fall back into magatry, I am concerned that it will take generations for the country to recover. Certainly beyond my lifetime.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:56:31pm

re: #110 sagehen

tonight’s PBS movie — “Yours, Mine and Ours” (1968)

Lucille Ball is a widow with 8 children, Henry Fonda is a widower with 10 children. They fall in love, get married, and have another kid. The first movie from Desilu studios (which had previously been just TV). Desilu has since, through various buyouts and mergers, become Paramount+.

18 years of child support payments for one kid forced me to work 2 jobs. 18 Kids would force me to work 2 jobs during the week and another job on the weekend.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 9:57:55pm

re: #113 ckkatz

Yes, we are running a good bit of risk right now. And I suspect that the political paralysis is benefiting a lot of very wealthy folks.

Hopefully voters start to realize this. And maybe conclude that they have been scammed by the GOP and that not voting for folks like the email lady was a major mistake.

If we fall back into magatry, I am concerned that it will take generations for the country to recover. Certainly beyond my lifetime.

On the present course of things I just do not see the US lasting much longer. We will break into pieces like the USSR did.

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A Cranky One  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:08:58pm

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:10:24pm
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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:11:10pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon

On the present course of things I just do not see the US lasting much longer. We will break into pieces like the USSR did.

I’m just thinking of the massive organized violence in times past. Like Bleeding Kansas, Harpers Ferry 1859, The Homestead Strike of 1889, Blair Mountain 1921, Tulsa Oklahoma 1921, Rosewood Florida 1920.

And I am still hopeful for us. But maybe I am overly optimistic.

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ckkatz  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:17:21pm

re: #116 A Cranky One

Hah!

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Captain Ron  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:28:07pm

The first Earth Day happened when I was in 8th grade. I was out on a boat in the Sacramento River Delta sampling and testing water samples, fishnets and river bed flora and fauna. Boebert is a fucking moron.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:37:01pm

The next Right Wing Culture War front: Race Science.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:39:02pm

re: #121 DodgerFan1988

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The next Right Wing Culture War front: Race Science.

They won’t stop ringing that bell…curve…

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A Cranky One  Apr 22, 2023 • 10:57:24pm

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:07:10pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon

18 years of child support payments for one kid forced me to work 2 jobs. 18 Kids would force me to work 2 jobs during the week and another job on the weekend.

He’s a Navy Chief Warrant Officer, she’s a Navy widow working as a nurse on the Navy base… finances isn’t as difficult for them as it might be for a lot of people. Especially for non-custodial parents. (also, housing costs in 1968 were way less than today).

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Captain Ron  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:07:40pm
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mmmirele  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:13:19pm

re: #89 Patricia Kayden

Tbh, it’s about bleeding time that we stopped obeying unjust laws. If SCOTUS eventually rules that women can’t access abortion pills or otherwise moves to ban abortions on a national level, President Biden shouldn’t use federal law enforcement to enforce that decision. Treat SCOTUS’ extremist rulings like the Dred Scott decision.

The problem is that Dred Scott WAS enforced in the sense that the Fugitive Slave Act remained a live threat to Northern Blacks in the runup to the Civil War (so four years, basically). Interestingly, and along these lines, some states passed laws designed to interfere with enforcement of the Act. Michigan, for example, passed a law prohibiting county jails from being used to detain recaptured slaves and instructing county prosecutors to defend recaptured slaves.

The modern version of defying the Supreme Court will be states such as California, Washington and now Oregon stockpiling mifepristone. (The governor of Oregon announced today the state is doing just that.) One of my friends argued that making mifepristone illegal federally would be the same situation as cannabis, and I argued that it’s very different. “Pot isn’t killing anyone—but there are people out there who see mifepristone as murdering baybeeeeees.” I could see a Republican federal administration raiding state mifepristone stockpiles.

I absolutely don’t want to be right about this, I really, really don’t, but I could see the country moving into civil unrest if the Supreme Court were to allow a ban on mifepristone. Especially if such a ban were to be combined with an increase in terrorist attacks by anti-abortion fanatics. We don’t have clinic bombers right now, because they think time is on their side. But if states defy the Supreme Court, oh yes, I could most certainly see it, with these terrorists deciding to be the enforcement arm that the current federal government under Joe Biden will not do.

Given the current state of affairs, and the fact that people are just getting shot for no real good reason, I decided this week that I was going to stop all of my solo picketing activities because I can’t trust that there aren’t idiots who wouldn’t try to shoot me for holding a sign. I really have to be a responsible adult now, unfortunately.

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sagehen  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:16:39pm

re: #118 ckkatz

I’m just thinking of the massive organized violence in times past. Like Bleeding Kansas, Harpers Ferry 1859, The Homestead Strike of 1889, Blair Mountain 1921, Tulsa Oklahoma 1921, Rosewood Florida 1920.

And I am still hopeful for us. But maybe I am overly optimistic.

anarchist bombings in the first 20 years of the 20th century. Killed dozens, destroyed a bunch of buildings. That’s not even counting the union issues and violent strikebreakers, covering about 50-60 years of the 20th century. Plus all the 1960’s stuff.

We can absorb a LOT of violence. We’re a big country, and the people hurt by this sort of thing are geographically or economically not the people with enough power to affect everyone else.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:18:44pm

re: #127 sagehen

Yup. Many people are not aware of how violent our past was.

We’ve been in a sort of strange place the last 50 years or so.

Large organized violence is limited, but small scale terrorism (e.g., school shootings) are all over the place.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:18:50pm

re: #111 ckkatz

I was just thinking, there were 3 amendments after the Civil War. A war that cost a million lives out of a population of 31.4 million.

The Great Depression , which almost collapsed the country, brought 2 Amendments. One of which clarified elections and succession of Federal officials. The other was to reverse Prohibition.

Fourth: An amendment originally part of the Bill of Rights but never ratified. It was pushed forward as a University of Texas at Austin college student Gregory Watson’s thesis that the bill was not dead, because it never had a ratification date. He was given a C- on his thesis; then he pushed forward to get the amendment ratified.

XXVII Amendment—No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

The Amendment was proposed by Representative James Madison (Democratic-Republican, Virginia) on June 8, 1789.

When Watson started his campaign in the states, only six had ratified it, the last being Virginia in 1791. When Alabama ratified the amendment on May 5, 1992, the amendment reached the required number for adoption. The four states which have not ratified it are Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, and Mississippi.

May 19, 1992 the Archivist of the United States signed the Instrument of Ratification.

Speaker of the House Tom Foley and Senator Robert Byrd called for a lawsuit, contending the Congress had not accepted the extremely long time for ratification, and Mr. Watson had subverted the spirit of the Constitution. (Mr. Watson spent $6,000 of his own money to lobby the necessary state legislatures.) May 20, 1991, the House and Senate filed a joint resolution that the amendment was properly ratified, after 202 years.

Subsequently the reporter from Texas following the saga tracked down his original professor who gave Watson the C-. He found her in a nursing home, and when he told her of the story, she remarked “well he sure showed me” and wrote a letter to University of Texas at Austin to change his grade to A+. The university agreed, and it remains the only A+ ever awarded in the Texas university system.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:39:16pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:48:43pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One amendment from the original Bill of Rights (Article the First) remains: The Congressional Apportionment Amendment. It fixes the size of a Representative’s district to thirty thousand people.

Twelve states adopted it by 1792 (one short at the time to make it part of the Constitution). No state has ratified it since then.

If the proposed amendment was part of the Constitution now, the US House would have about six thousand representatives.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 22, 2023 • 11:57:04pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If the proposed amendment was part of the Constitution now, the US House would have about six thousand representatives.

And look like the CCP’s massive gatherings.

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ckkatz  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:04:53am

re: #126 mmmirele

Given the current state of affairs, and the fact that people are just getting shot for no real good reason, I decided this week that I was going to stop all of my solo picketing activities because I can’t trust that there aren’t idiots who wouldn’t try to shoot me for holding a sign. I really have to be a responsible adult now, unfortunately.

I am glad that you are taking a break on the solo protests. You contribute a lot here on lgf. We cannot afford to lose you.

And yes, there are folks who are listening to FUD from the GOP leadership, the rightwing media and their own bubbles. And are convinced that their entire life and being are being held up by only a frayed thread.

Perhaps there might be other effective and safer ways to get information out to the right people. Maybe media who don’t have the resources and expertise to find it on their own. Or to lobby/influence folks.There are lots of savvy people here who might have ideas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:09:55am

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There has even been a court case fought over the XXVII Amendment since it was adopted.

That challenged Congressional Cost-of-Living adjustments as a violation of the XXVII Amendment. The DC Court of Appeals ruled that COLAs are not compensation by the plain reading of the amendment, and the Supreme Court ruled on their shadow docket at the time that the Republican representatives who brought the case did not have standing to sue.

Interestingly the amendment works both ways: You can’t reduce a Senator or Representative’s salary more than once per election either. People calling to withhold the GOPs salaries until they do their jobs are calling to violate the XXVII Amendment.

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sagehen  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:11:50am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

One amendment from the original Bill of Rights (Article the First) remains: The Congressional Apportionment Amendment. It fixes the size of a Representative’s district to thirty thousand people.

Twelve states adopted it by 1792 (one short at the time to make it part of the Constitution). No state has ratified it since then.

If the proposed amendment was part of the Constitution now, the US House would have about six thousand representatives.

I’d be happy with 250k-300k. Wyoming would have 2, as would Montana, Alaska… California would have 130. This would also put the electoral college results much closer to the popular vote totals.

Even 400k would be a big improvement.

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Moe Avattar  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:16:28am

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If the proposed amendment was part of the Constitution now, the US House would have about six thousand representatives.

That’s almost as many as New Hampshire!

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Captain Ron  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:18:01am

That’s a pretty short concert.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:20:23am

re: #135 sagehen

I’d be happy with 250k-300k. Wyoming would have 2, as would Montana, Alaska… California would have 130. This would also put the electoral college results much closer to the popular vote totals.

Even 400k would be a big improvement.

That’s been my argument for a long time over the statute which sets the size of congressional districts. Set the district size to the lowest state population.

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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:23:53am

Chinese wolf diplomacy making friends all over.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:26:40am

re: #139 ericblair

Yep, “how to make friends and influence people”, Chinese wolf diplomacy style. First, telling the former Soviet Bloc states that their sovereignty is dubious, then suggesting that the people of India are “low quality”.

Brilliant. Absofuckinlutely brilliant. 😄

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:30:36am

No, that would be the Republican proposal (and a couple have proposed it). State Senator McKinney is proposing jail or prison be made less cruel.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:34:29am
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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:50:31am

Days go by and, despite the hard work of Musk stans, the impression of blue checkmarks being reduced to the status of a venereal disease refuses to abate.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:01:57am

re: #30 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Someone off to my east (not that close) just unloaded a magazine of pistol ammo. Hope it’s stupid celebratory fire and not someone getting wounded or killed.

Prolly just somebody trying to get a steak.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:08:51am

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:09:48am

Wonkette, April 22, 2023

Ohio Republican Demands Reparations For White People

Announcing his candidacy for US Senate this week, Trump-affiliated Ohio businessman Bernie Moreno gave a great big speech about how white people should get reparations because they died in a war to “save Black people.”

This is probably a good move for the luxury car dealership owner and aspiring politician, given that his fellow Ohio Republicans might be a little wigged out by his last name and the fact that he’s an immigrant. Showing fealty by claiming white people deserve reparations is certainly one way to put them at ease. Unless, of course, they take offense to saying the Civil War was about slavery in the first place instead of state’s rights — specifically a state’s rights to allow people to own slaves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:16:40am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Announcing his candidacy for US Senate this week, Trump-affiliated Ohio businessman Bernie Moreno gave a great big speech about how white people should get reparations because they died in a war to “save Black people.”

They are perfectly justified in addressing these claims to the Government of the Confederate States of America.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:19:51am

This is bizarre:

Kenyan police have exhumed 21 bodies near the coastal town of Malindi, as they investigate a preacher said to have told followers to starve to death.

Dead children were among those exhumed, and police said they expected to find even more bodies.

The shallow graves are in Shakahola forest, where 15 members of the Good News International Church were rescued last week.

Preacher Paul Mackenzie Nthenge is in custody, pending a court appearance.

bbc.com

Granted, nowhere near as bizarre as what happened in Uganda a couple decades back…

en.wikipedia.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:23:17am

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Peruchin – Bilongo (Perlas Cubanas)


　
　
　
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:23:46am

My playlist is like a box of chocolates…

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:23:48am

re: #146 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wonkette, April 22, 2023

Ohio Republican Demands Reparations For White People

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Price of admission into the GQP as a minority candidate. You have skin darker than a white sheet? You gotta act like straight white Christian men are the most oppressed minority in the nation’s history if you want to be allowed in the clubhouse.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:37:43am

re: #150 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My playlist is like a box of chocolates…

I have not listened to Spotify for ages, but my ex-GF and I used to put it on for our weekend Scrabble marathon sessions and found that after a while it started to do a good job of picking out things that suited our tastes.

I miss those Scrabble sessions…

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Cheechako  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:51:17am

More everyday fun in Alaska:

Moose wanders into Kenai movie theater and leaves with a Happy Meal

Scroll down for the video.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:53:43am

re: #147 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are perfectly justified in addressing these claims to the Government of the Confederate States of America.

Irene Trippett (January 9, 1930—May 31, 2020)

The pension paid to Union Civil War veterans could be assigned to their children when they died. She was the fifth and last child of her father Mose Trippett, who at the time was 83, and his wife Elida Hall, age 34.

Mose Trippett started out the war fighting for the Confederacy, but switched sides and joined the Union Army. Irene said she had a hard childhood, with children and adults beating her because her father was a “traitor.” She dropped out of school in sixth grade.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 2:35:40am

re: #154 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It was actually somewhat common for very elderly Civil War or Revolutionary War veterans to marry very young women or girls, as they could assign their pension to their spouse upon death.

Esther Summer Damon (August 1, 1814—November 11, 1906)

She is believed to be the last veteran’s widow to receive a state pension from the Revolutionary War. She married when she was twenty-one and her husband Noah Damon was seventy-five. They met two weeks prior to their marriage.

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Nojay UK  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:05:13am

re: #11 gwangung

From what I’m reading, one of the innovations of SpaceX >IS< the launch pad, as they do the assembly of the rocket there, allowing for thinner superstructure, allowing for bigger payloads and re-use.

If he totaled the launchpad, that’s really not good news.

Technical stuff follows — the Orbital Launch Mount (OLM) actually starts the outside twenty Raptor 2 engines, injecting high-pressure gas to spin up the turbines in each engine to pump the fuel and oxidiser into them. At launch the mount disconnects from those engines before takeoff. It’s complicated, perhaps over-complicated but it saves weight and complexity in the booster itself since it doesn’t have to carry a lot of pressurised gas to start those twenty outside engines, just enough to start and restart the thirteen engines in the centre of the “rosette” which are used for landings. If any of the quick-disconnect units fail to work then their associated engine won’t start up at all.

What SpaceX really need to launch Starship Heavy is something akin to the Saturn V launchpads at Canaveral, the historic 39A and 39B pads which have lots of concrete, are elevated above the local water table and most crucially have a water deluge system. This deluge system isn’t just used to keep things cool (although it does help), the water spray absorbs the noise and vibration from Gods Own Speaker Stack and crucially stops that sound energy from damaging the rocket motors as they ignite and ramp up to full throttle. The construction of such a pad structure at Boca Chica is a big thing if they decide to go ahead with it in terms of time and money and changes to their operational processes. There are also the environmental issues of handling large amounts of contaminated waste water after each launch. This is Texas though so that may be less of a consideration.

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:15:53am

This is good to see:

Cyprus’ Financial Commissioner Pavlos Ioannou has told state broadcaster Cyprus Broadcasting Corporation that the individuals and entities’ assets were frozen.

“The banks couldn’t help but take the measures they took… and the government also acted wisely, ” Ioannou said.

Cyprus’ Greek-language daily Filefteros reported that the island’s largest lender, the Bank of Cyprus, also “notified 4,000 customers who have Russian passports and are not residents of EU countries that their accounts will be closed.”

The island in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea is home to a large Russian diaspora. Limassol, located on the southern coast and often called “Moscow on the Mediterranean”, has long been a magnet for Russian speakers.

Britain and the United States have imposed sanctions on citizens and companies in Cyprus for allegedly helping Russian oligarchs hide their assets after Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022.

pravda.com.ua

I have little doubt that a good many Russian oligarch types had their money parked in Cyprus, perceiving it as a safe harbor. Now, that safe harbor has disappeared.

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:29:33am

re: #156 Nojay UK

Technical stuff follows — the Orbital Launch Mount (OLM) actually starts the outside twenty Raptor 2 engines, injecting high-pressure gas to spin up the turbines in each engine to pump the fuel and oxidiser into them. At launch the mount disconnects from those engines before takeoff. It’s complicated, perhaps over-complicated but it saves weight and complexity in the booster itself since it doesn’t have to carry a lot of pressurised gas to start those twenty outside engines, just enough to start and restart the thirteen engines in the centre of the “rosette” which are used for landings. If any of the quick-disconnect units fail to work then their associated engine won’t start up at all.

What SpaceX really need to launch Starship Heavy is something akin to the Saturn V launchpads at Canaveral, the historic 39A and 39B pads which have lots of concrete, are elevated above the local water table and most crucially have a water deluge system. This deluge system isn’t just used to keep things cool (although it does help), the water spray absorbs the noise and vibration from Gods Own Speaker Stack and crucially stops that sound energy from damaging the rocket motors as they ignite and ramp up to full throttle. The construction of such a pad structure at Boca Chica is a big thing if they decide to go ahead with it in terms of time and money and changes to their operational processes. There are also the environmental issues of handling large amounts of contaminated waste water after each launch. This is Texas though so that may be less of a consideration.

I hadn’t read up on the specs of the Starship Heavy, but it has 33 engines in the first stage? No wonder all the pictures I’d seen of the ass-end resembled the historical pics of the Soviet N1.

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Nojay UK  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:29:43am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

I have little doubt that a good many Russian oligarch types had their money parked in Cyprus, perceiving it as a safe harbor. Now, that safe harbor has disappeared.

Cyprus was an entrepôt to the European Union so depositing oligarch money in Cyprus banks was a big step towards laundering it and spending it freely in the Real World outside Russia. Even Irish banks would be more diligent in asking awkward questions.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:36:32am

re: #158 Targetpractice

I hadn’t read up on the specs of the Starship Heavy, but it has 33 engines in the first stage? No wonder all the pictures I’d seen of the ass-end resembled the historical pics of the Soviet N1.

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Yep, that comparison has been made before, and for good reason. While I will grant that in the early 1970’s, command and control systems weren’t as sophisticated as today’s - making the N1’s configuration an even worse idea - the fact remains that lots of smaller engines just means lots more individual points of failure to account for. This is exactly why NASA used the five massive F-1 engines in the Saturn V first stage; controlling five large engines was much less logistical effort than controlling 30+ smaller engines.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:40:40am

Via Reddit’s r/InsanePeopleFacebook
“Karl Marx was an offspring of Rothschild family” (caution for antisemitism)

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Nojay UK  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:41:35am

re: #158 Targetpractice

The N1 was a 1960s design and the tapering first stage was built like that partly for aerodynamic reasons, it provided directional stability like flights on an arrow. Note that the N1’s engines are actually spaced out much more than the Starship’s Raptor 2 engines since the SpaceX rocket is a slim cylindrical design, more compact and easier to handle on the ground. In flight the Starship Heavy stack uses modern flight controls and the central gimballing engines to control its direction. The downside is that all the vibration and sound energy of a full-on Starship launch happens in a very small space and close to the ground much of that energy impacts the engine cluster itself.

The N1 actually flew three times (it blew up on the pad once) and all three times the flight trajectory was pretty much nominal with no uncommanded engine shutdowns (as far as I can tell) until something else went wrong.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:43:53am

Even after some good letter eliminations, this word still took some staring at.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 673 3/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Nojay UK  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:56:23am

re: #160 Nerdy Fish

The problem with the Rocketdyne F1 used on the Saturn V was that it just wasn’t a good rocket engine. It was the rocketry equivalent of the quintessential US muscle car engine, big and crude and inefficient. The Rocketdyne engineers spent years trying to fix the problems inherent in a very large unitary rocket motor and eventually crippled its performance with assorted baffle plates in the combustion chamber to control gas flow instability.

At this time the Soviets actually had a better rocket engine, the RD-170 that produced more thrust at a higher specific impulse than the F1. It was both throttleable and could be gimballed, something the F1 couldn’t do. It had four smaller combustion chambers driven off a single turbopump which solved the flow instability issues that bedevilled the F1 design. New versions of this engine (the RD171MV) are still being actively developed by Russia.

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TarHellion  Apr 23, 2023 • 3:58:27am

In terms of breaking down the letters and possibilities, probably one of my better birbies. Going with MrsTarH to a minor-league baseball game today. My friend is celebrating his 54th birthday and has rented out a party patio. Weather looks to be upper 60s and sunny, so should be fun. Have a great Sunday everyone!

Click to Reveal

Wordle 673 3/6*

⬜⬜🟨⬜🟨
🟨🟩🟨🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:00:03am

re: #162 Nojay UK

The N1 was a 1960s design and the tapering first stage was built like that partly for aerodynamic reasons, it provided directional stability like flights on an arrow. Note that the N1’s engines are actually spaced out much more than the Starship’s Raptor 2 engines since the SpaceX rocket is a slim cylindrical design, more compact and easier to handle on the ground. In flight the Starship Heavy stack uses modern flight controls and the central gimballing engines to control its direction. The downside is that all the vibration and sound energy of a full-on Starship launch happens in a very small space and close to the ground much of that energy impacts the engine cluster itself.

The N1 actually flew three times (it blew up on the pad once) and all three times the flight trajectory was pretty much nominal with no uncommanded engine shutdowns (as far as I can tell) until something else went wrong.

Most analyses I’ve seen of the N-1 blame the transport methods of the day, the Soviets lack of a sufficiently large enough aircraft to heavy lift the major sections necessitated building them in sections that could be moved by barge or train and assembled on-site. That only compounded the issues with the complexity of the design that was a result of the Soviet inability to match Western control systems and engine design.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:00:30am

re: #90 piratedan

if this shit keeps up, we’re heading down the path where the Feds are going to have to remove State governments because they’re committing insurrection by ignoring Federal authority. It’s whole States Rights bullshit all over again.

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; …”

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:03:14am

re: #164 Nojay UK

Oh, yeah. The Saturn V had its share of problems, the instability of its main engines chief among them. It owes its success in large part to the relative simplicity of the design; while it was, in many ways, typical of the American “brute force” approach to problem solving, it got the job done pretty effectively.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:11:38am

re: #165 TarHellion

In terms of breaking down the letters and possibilities, probably one of my better birbies. Going with MrsTarH to a minor-league baseball game today. My friend is celebrating his 54th birthday and has rented out a party patio. Weather looks to be upper 60s and sunny, so should be fun. Have a great Sunday everyone!

I barely got out alive (6/6); my letters are all over the place.

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TarHellion  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:14:09am

re: #163 Nerdy Fish

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:15:14am

re: #168 Nerdy Fish

Oh, yeah. The Saturn V had its share of problems, the instability of its main engines chief among them. It owes its success in large part to the relative simplicity of the design; while it was, in many ways, typical of the American “brute force” approach to problem solving, it got the job done pretty effectively.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:35:11am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Looks like dril got his check removed…now for the next round…

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:40:39am

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:40:45am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:42:55am

Huh. A drug company named Sun Pharmaceutical got the orphan unapproved drug Phenobarbital approved for short term use, under the trademark Sezaby. It comes in a powder form to be reconstituted as an injection for infants to treat epilepsy. It is the only FDA approved drug to treat infants with seizures. The drug will come on the market in the last quarter of this year. It is not approved for use by adolescents or adults.

It comes with the usual black-box warning (do not mix with opiates, do not mix with alcohol, do not suddenly withdraw, do not overdose). It will be placed in Controlled Substance Category IV (the same as Phenobarbital tablets).

Waiting for a state to misuse it for executions. Since this is sold by a US company, the EU can’t block its sale here. The FDA requires a prescription for the drug from a person authorised to dispense controlled substances.

An “orphan drug” is defined by the FDA as a medication used to treat rare conditions which is not profitable to produce without government assistance.

Phenobarbital is also an unapproved drug according to the FDA. These are medications which were in common use before the Food, Drug, and Cosmetics Act of 1938 was enacted. Unapproved drugs may only be used in the same formulations as they existed in 1938, and only if they had wide acceptance by the medical community at the time.

Sezaby (tm) was required to get FDA approval because it was a new formulation of Phenobarbital.

There is a lot of argument between the DEA, FDA, and neurologists regarding Phenobarbital.

Undue regulatory control on phenobarbital—an important yet overlooked reason for the epilepsy treatment gap (NIH, April 1, 2015, first published in Epilepsia)

Epilepsy is a major chronic noncommunicable neurologic disorder. Although a simple, safe, efficacious, and low-cost treatment has been available for nearly 100 years, the treatment gap remains disturbingly high in many low- and middle-income countries (LMICs).1 Treatment gap is generally defined as a “difference between the number of people with active epilepsy and the number being appropriately treated.” There are many reasons for this treatment gap; one important reason is an overly restrictive regulation on barbiturates such as phenobarbital (PB). These restrictive regulations deserve a wider and open discussion, even though epileptologists and others are intensely engaged on reducing the epilepsy treatment gap. With this article, we provide our viewpoint with an aim of raising an extremely important issue: undue regulatory restriction on phenobarbital, an essential lifesaving antiepileptic drug (AED).

(full article at the link)

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:43:41am

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:44:53am
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Targetpractice  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:46:05am

re: #174 Dangerman

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:46:42am

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:48:12am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:49:36am

re: #175 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

More on the overburdening restriction of Phenobarbital:

For instance in Lao People’s Democratic Republic, the International Narcotics Control Board (INCB) delivers an annual quota of 25 kg of raw PB to Laos’s Food and Drug Department. This allows the production of 245,000 PB tablets per year, equivalent to 671 annual adult treatments. But Laos has >40,000 people with epilepsy (PWE) who need access to treatment, so the policy is contrary to what is required and what INCB declared in its recent annual report: “One of the fundamental objectives of the international drug control treaties is to ensure the availability of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances for medical and scientific purposes and to promote access to and rational use of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances.”

WHO and the UN still classify Phenobarbital as a narcotic, even though the drug is a CNS depressant.

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:50:14am
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:51:31am

re: #182 Dangerman

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Here’s the thing guys

It doesn’t matter

It doesn’t matter when life begins

It doesn’t matter whether a fetus is a human being or not

That entire argument is a red herring, a distraction, a subjective and unwinnable argument that couldn’t matter less

It doesn’t matter whether we’re talking about a fertilized egg or a fetus or a baby or a five year old or a Nobel prize winning pediatric oncologist

NOBODY has the right to use your body against your will, even to save their life or the life of another person

That’s it. That’s the argument

You cannot be forced to donate blood or marrow or organs even though thousands die every year on waiting lists.

They cannot even harvest your organs after your death without your explicit written pre mortem permission

Denying women the right to an abortion means we have even less bodily autonomy than a corpse

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:54:04am

re: #180 Dangerman

I assume had the father beaten the child in compliance with the Biblical admonition about sparing the rod and spoiling the child, the cops wouldn’t have broken down his door to arrest him. Rightwingers are odd. The father should sue the hell out of the PD.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:56:17am

re: #182 Dangerman

When you stop calling forced birthers “pro-life”, it all makes sense. They want to control and punish women (and girls). They care nothing for babies or children. They certainly care nothing for pregnant mothers or struggling parents. So, of course, they are okay if the pregnancy results in the death of the mother AND THE FETUS.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 4:58:41am

re: #174 Dangerman

Republicans are trying to do the same in my state. The 1912 state constitution currently reads:

The legislative authority of the state shall be vested in a Legislature in one chamber. The people reserve for themselves the power to propose laws and amendments to the Constitution and to enact or reject the same at the polls, independent of the Legislature, which power shall be called the power of initiative. The people also reserve power at their own option to approve or reject at the polls any act, item, section, or part of any act passed by the Legislature, which power shall be called the power of referendum.

To change this, they require a state constitution amendment, which they want to put to the voters in the next election. I suspect their amendment will go down in flames at the polls.

Currently, the so-called two-fifths rule exists to place a measure on the ballot: five percent of the voters from at least thirty-eight of the ninety-three counties must sign the petition. Previous attempts to raise that threshold went down in defeat.

It was by referendum that Nebraska joined the ACA and Medicaid expansion, raising the minimum wage to $10.70/hour, and raising it again to $15/hour.

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Nerdy Fish  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:01:00am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

When you stop calling forced birthers “pro-life”, it all makes sense. They want to control and punish women (and girls). They care nothing for babies or children. They certainly care nothing for pregnant mothers or struggling parents. So, of course, they are okay if the pregnancy results in the death of the mother AND THE FETUS.

Part of their insanely misguided beliefs is that pregnancy would have a 100% success rate, were it not for women making mistakes. You can explain to them until you’re blue in the face that there are many natural causes that result in a miscarriage, but they will insist that someone, somewhere, must have done something wrong, because God’s perfect plan could never include the death of innocent babies. This is what happens when your “theology” consists of, “Whatever my preconceived notions of how God’s plan is supposed to work are.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:10:14am

re: #182 Dangerman

That is from 2022. I wonder if he’s been corrected of his ignorance, or if he cares.

Oklahoma is the same state which had a female representative claim a woman cannot get pregnant if she has a rape kit done, because that “cleans her out.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:12:14am

re: #187 Nerdy Fish

Part of their insanely misguided beliefs is that pregnancy would have a 100% success rate, were it not for women making mistakes. You can explain to them until you’re blue in the face that there are many natural causes that result in a miscarriage, but they will insist that someone, somewhere, must have done something wrong, because God’s perfect plan could never include the death of innocent babies. This is what happens when your “theology” consists of, “Whatever my preconceived notions of how God’s plan is supposed to work are.”

The point of conservatism is power. They don’t care if they kill some people on their side, as long as they kill more of others. It’s also why you can explain until you’re blue in the face why Covid-19 vaccines and mask-wearing are important. All you can do is mock them mercilessly (which is why the centrists in the media call for civility from places like Sorry Antivaxxer and Reddit’s r/HermanCainAward).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:15:07am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:21:24am

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:30:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:35:27am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:39:58am

On sealioning (1:25)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:46:05am
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jeffreyw  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:51:20am

Good morning!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:53:07am

As a scientist with over two decades of research experience and over 210 peer reviewed publications, I find no fault with this logic:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:54:20am

This bill would allow anyone to carry a gun into your home or place of business without your permission, and repeal all city, county, or village ordinances which restrict concealed carry in certain locations.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:55:36am

re: #198 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

This bill would allow anyone to carry a gun into your home or place of business without your permission, and repeal all city, county, or village ordinances which restrict concealed carry in certain locations.

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JC1  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:57:51am

re: #160 Nerdy Fish

Yep, that comparison has been made before, and for good reason. While I will grant that in the early 1970’s, command and control systems weren’t as sophisticated as today’s - making the N1’s configuration an even worse idea - the fact remains that lots of smaller engines just means lots more individual points of failure to account for. This is exactly why NASA used the five massive F-1 engines in the Saturn V first stage; controlling five large engines was much less logistical effort than controlling 30+ smaller engines.

But also redundancy. How many of those can fail before the rocket fails?

The falcon heavy has 27 engines (9 per booster and 9 in the first stage) and so far it’s 5/5.

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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 5:58:55am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Seriously? Why are so many theists so obsessed with this question. It is utterly obsessive and cult like.

I can safely say that these are the same sort of people who obsessively catalogued who was Black and who was not down to four or five generations, and for the same shitty reasons.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:01:33am

re: #199 Dr. Matt

The GQP: Making America more dangerous one bill at a time.

This bill was proposed by Sen. Tom Brewer (R-Gordon), who claims he lives in a log cabin inside a farm equipment shed no one has ever seen but actually lives in Hall County in violation of state law. His campaign was entirely funded by one Texas oil billionaire. (The reason? Shale oil in Sheridan County.)

Voters in his district have entered a lawsuit to remove him as he is violating the state constitution. Discovery seeks to actually see this log cabin. Removal would invalidate any law he proposed or adopted as long as he was an illegal legislator (the entire time he’s been in the Unicameral).

My state senator made Brewer’s bill one of his own two priority bills (bills which must get floor debate and can thus circumvent the current filibuster).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:02:32am

re: #200 JC1

But also redundancy. How many of those can fail before the rocket fails?

The falcon heavy has 27 engines (9 per booster and 9 in the first stage) and so far it’s 5/5.

As soon as engines fail, the thrust becomes unequal. That is what threw the rocket off. Three failed before the rocket even launched. More failed in-flight.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:03:09am

re: #201 ericblair

I can safely say that these are the same sort of people who obsessively catalogued who was Black and who was not down to four or five generations, and for the same shitty reasons.

Case in point: Obama wasn’t really Black, because reasons….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:06:46am

re: #201 ericblair

I can safely say that these are the same sort of people who obsessively catalogued who was Black and who was not down to four or five generations, and for the same shitty reasons.

The question is a bad-faith question. The answer has been made available in exhausting detail.

It’s only purpose is sealioning to derail a conversation. If you’re trying to explain what “a woman” is, you’re not explaining why transgender people deserve rights.

This particular question has been called out by international organisations as an attempt to foster genocide.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:15:01am

re: #115 Joe Bacon

On the present course of things I just do not see the US lasting much longer. We will break into pieces like the USSR did.

The entire concept of the US was flimsy to start with, too much variation in ideals. Unless white landowner. How the fragmentation occurs is the question that I have. I think I’ve said this before — right and left coasts along with the upper states (excluding iduho, Montana, and north Dakota) Ok, maybe Wisconsin and bits of Michigan.

Them we trade with the food supplier states and leave the rest to rot. Sorry lizards in blue areas of red stupid, I don’t have an answer.

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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:16:29am

re: #205 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The question is a bad-faith question. The answer has been made available in exhausting detail.

It’s only purpose is sealioning to derail a conversation. If you’re trying to explain what “a woman” is, you’re not explaining why transgender people deserve rights.

This particular question has been called out by international organisations as an attempt to foster genocide.

Pretty much; the question back to them is “why do you care?” What difference does it make to you? Why would you treat the person differently depending on the answer?

Are my eyes green or hazel? What if I call them hazel, does it make a difference to you? Why would you care what I want to call them?

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:20:14am

re: #118 ckkatz

I’m just thinking of the massive organized violence in times past. Like Bleeding Kansas, Harpers Ferry 1859, The Homestead Strike of 1889, Blair Mountain 1921, Tulsa Oklahoma 1921, Rosewood Florida 1920.

And I am still hopeful for us. But maybe I am overly optimistic.

We have actually survived worse. But it will involve not giving up.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:20:51am

re: #207 ericblair

Pretty much; the question back to them is “why do you care?” What difference does it make to you? Why would you treat the person differently depending on the answer?

Are my eyes green or hazel? What if I call them hazel, does it make a difference to you? Why would you care what I want to call them?

I’m not sure what to call my eyes. After the VA ophthalmologist put dilatation drops in them over two years ago, they still haven’t recovered their natural colour.

I’m still left with black pupils, a large blue ring, with a thin outer light brown ring. My eyes are supposed to be very dark brown; now they look like friggin’ targets.

Someone who hasn’t met me before will look at me funny if they see my eyes.

It’s probably the demon-possession from my epilepsy. /s

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:31:11am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:32:35am

Anyone that has a twitter account, are you seeing any breaking news about laguardia airport? All security in Term B is shutdown. No one is telling us anything.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:33:09am

re: #121 DodgerFan1988

The next Right Wing Culture War front: Race Science.

Sounds like a rehash of the bell curve bullshit

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:36:16am

You’re in a forest. You come across this bard.

Do you accept his quest?

Melamet Hırkası-Özgür Baba

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:38:47am

re: #211 Dr. Matt

Anyone that has a twitter account, are you seeing any breaking news about laguardia airport? All security in Term B is shutdown. No one is telling us anything.

Latest tweet from La Guardia Airport is from two hours ago.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:44:11am

re: #214 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷
Finally got through. all security in Terminal B shut down for 30 minutes. There was a “investigation “. Luckily, I showed up an hour and a half early so I’m not running like most of the people.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:46:45am

re: #115 Joe Bacon

On the present course of things I just do not see the US lasting much longer. We will break into pieces like the USSR did.

Highly unlikely. That would not benefit the oligarchs who the GOP is actually run for the benefit of. MAGA is a literally dying movement, and represent a small minority of Americans, even in states considered red, except for some small ones with elderly populations young people are fleeing, like West Virginia.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:48:14am

re: #158 Targetpractice

I hadn’t read up on the specs of the Starship Heavy, but it has 33 engines in the first stage? No wonder all the pictures I’d seen of the ass-end resembled the historical pics of the Soviet N1.

And if you watch the ‘official spacex video’ you see that there was a major failure in 25% of those engines

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:51:07am
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 6:52:55am

re: #206 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The entire concept of the US was flimsy to start with, too much variation in ideals. Unless white landowner. How the fragmentation occurs is the question that I have. I think I’ve said this before — right and left coasts along with the upper states (excluding iduho, Montana, and north Dakota) Ok, maybe Wisconsin and bits of Michigan.

Them we trade with the food supplier states and leave the rest to rot. Sorry lizards in blue areas of red stupid, I don’t have an answer.

National Divorce Is a Poisonously Stupid Idea

National review

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:02:01am

re: #219 Dangerman

National Divorce Is a Poisonously Stupid Idea

National review

Oh, totally think that is an accurate assessment. ‘Divorce’ is not what I am saying. That word implies that there will still be some federal relationship. My thought is more balkanization. And that is really bad, too. But if the ultra-red states are not reigned in, we will turn into 16th century Europe.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:17:15am

Par, but it was shaky
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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:26:46am

‘You keep covering for these guys!’: Lindsey Graham flips out on CNN’s Bash after abortion question

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:28:29am

re: #185 Patricia Kayden

When you stop calling forced birthers “pro-life”, it all makes sense. They want to control and punish women (and girls). They care nothing for babies or children. They certainly care nothing for pregnant mothers or struggling parents. So, of course, they are okay if the pregnancy results in the death of the mother AND THE FETUS.

Can we come up with a term like women-slavers.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:32:06am

re: #171 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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The interesting thing in relation to the F4 and US naval aviation in general post-WW2 is to look at the specifications and limitations of what they were trying to do. And then add to it all the technological development going on from 1945-65 in terms of aeronautics, jet engines, radar, missiles, electronics, aircraft carriers, etc. etc.

The Navy posited in 1948 that they would soon potentially face enemy bombers approaching at 450 mph, 30,000 ft altitude, and launching stand-off weapons at 10-20 nautical mile distance.* The Soviets did not achieve this ability for a few years, but it essentially was what the US and UK navies decided had to be dealt with. In addition to having their own strike capabilities and some ability to escort said strike with their own fighters. And jets handled landing/launch issues from carriers quite differently than propeller driven aircraft. In addition during the time period the weight and stall speeds of the developed aircraft were climbing appreciably.

To respond to it they needed a interceptor fighter that could climb fast, be fast enough to engage a bomber effectively**, have enough range/loiter time to engage as far out as possible or fly extended CAP missions, and also be light enough and small enough to launch/land on a carrier and fit in the elevators to potentially be taken below the flight deck.

* - Which also means you want to detect the incoming strike as far out as possible since what the carrier task force needs most is time to react. So this drives development of better radar, AEW (airborne early warning), radar picket ships, and escorts having some ability to give information to intercepting fighters. Plus the ships are dispersed more since by 1950 there is a chance an attacker tries to lob a nuke into them.

** - An additional complication since the fighter has to fly an interception course and attempt deflection shooting, or pass the bomber, turn around, and do a tail chase. Thus a drive to develop better weapons (guided missiles) for fighters to use since cannons had limited range and aiming issues and unguided rockets generally did not work very well.

A really good book that covers all this and more is Norman Friedman’s _Fighters Over The Fleet_.

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A Cranky One  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:37:07am

One puff on my cigarette. Two puffs. Three puffs…

I shouldn’t mock. After all, it’s Bozo approved!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:42:57am

Has The Former Guy:
A) taken credit for it
B) whined that Biden saved Americans
C) blamed Obama, Soros, and Marxists for the conflict
D) all of the above
E) bragged that he aced the cognitive test

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:48:28am

From August 2021 MicroSFF:

“You are,” the hooded figure whispered, “the Chosen One.”
“What?”
“The One to end the reign of the Dark Lord.”
“The Dark Lord, long may His terror rule?”
“Yes, a-“
“Guards!” I call. “A traitor!”
Funnily, his arrest set off a chain of events that ended with the Dark Lord’s death.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:54:39am

re: #133 ckkatz

I am glad that you are taking a break on the solo protests. You contribute a lot here on lgf. We cannot afford to lose you.

And yes, there are folks who are listening to FUD from the GOP leadership, the rightwing media and their own bubbles. And are convinced that their entire life and being are being held up by only a frayed thread.

Perhaps there might be other effective and safer ways to get information out to the right people. Maybe media who don’t have the resources and expertise to find it on their own. Or to lobby/influence folks.There are lots of savvy people here who might have ideas.

But many are listening because it projects the worldview they favor; the racism, homophobia, misogyny and aspirations for a theocracy were already part of their mindset and they seek out those media that support their biases.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 7:59:24am

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:02:33am

re: #227 Dr. Matt

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Has The Former Guy:
A) taken credit for it
B) whined that Biden saved Americans
C) blamed Obama, Soros, and Marxists for the conflict
D) all of the above
E) bragged that he aced the cognitive test

1. He shouldn’t be asked.
2. If he volunteers criticism, he should be reminded that he’s not the president.
3. Reporters should visibly turn their backs on him if he persists.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:04:44am

re: #163 Nerdy Fish

Even after some good letter eliminations, this word still took some staring at.

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Was a challenge but ended at a par

Click to Reveal

Wordle 673 4/6

⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
⬜🟨🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Took forever to get from 2 to 3

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:08:28am

re: #206 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The entire concept of the US was flimsy to start with, too much variation in ideals. Unless white landowner. How the fragmentation occurs is the question that I have. I think I’ve said this before — right and left coasts along with the upper states (excluding iduho, Montana, and north Dakota) Ok, maybe Wisconsin and bits of Michigan.

Them we trade with the food supplier states and leave the rest to rot. Sorry lizards in blue areas of red stupid, I don’t have an answer.

Of course not, because yours isn’t an answer either. Split with the red states and then you’ll have to set up all sorts of things to defend against those red states. I mean, do you think people who have chosen to ignore your constitution are going to pay attention to imaginary borders?

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:08:42am

Mastodon

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Teukka  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:13:37am
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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:16:31am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

Highly unlikely. That would not benefit the oligarchs who the GOP is actually run for the benefit of. MAGA is a literally dying movement, and represent a small minority of Americans, even in states considered red, except for some small ones with elderly populations young people are fleeing, like West Virginia.

If you want to look at separatist movements, Quebec “almost” separated from Canada a few decades ago. This was a far clearer division, with cultural and language differences and a defined real border.

What first happened when the Quebec government started getting serious is that all the business headquarters got the hell out of Montreal and moved to Toronto. This shit is terrible for businesses, since they have absolutely no idea about the legal and financial situation they’re going to be stuck with. Better to move somewhere predictable. Then came the demands: Quebec wants their part of the debt essentially forgiven, they want to use the Canadian dollar and have representation in the Bank of Canada, they still want representation in the Canadian federal government, they want dual citizenship with Canada, and on and on. Uh huh. And who pays for Canadian pensions in Quebec the day after separation? Who knows!

So Canada didn’t agree to this, but Quebec went ahead anyways. Then the English speaking parts of Quebec between Ottawa and Montreal wanted to separate from an independent Quebec if that happened. Quebec was shocked: you can’t separate! Screw you! That’s illegal! So there was a referendum or two, and the separatists lost. The business headquarters didn’t come back, and that was kind of that.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:21:31am

re: #235 Teukka

Debates are worthless because all the “Debate Me!” trolls like Ben Shapiro use debate structure to vomit out a Gish Gallop of talking points, forcing opponents to use up all their time to refute the talking points.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:21:46am

Borb with a woof.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 673 4/6*

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟨🟨⬜
🟩🟩⬜🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

And a nice set of stats for those who like double numbers:
88
Played
99
Win %
55
Current Streak
55
Max Streak

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:24:18am

One more from MicroSFF back in August 2021… :)

“These copper ingots,” the devil said, “are of sub-par quality.”
“You accepted them as payment,” the merchant said, “the deal is done.”
“Very well. I will uphold my end of the bargain,” the devil said. “Your name will live forever.”
“That is all I ask,” said Ea-nasir.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:24:24am

re: #235 Teukka

I remember Barney Frank once telling a Republican (can’t remember which) that debating him like having an argument with a table. It was freakin’ hilarious and the GOP was OUTRAGED by the insult.

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:29:17am

re: #225 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Heh. The “Battle of Palmdale” showed the Air Force, at least, that unguided rockets did not work at all.

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Jay C  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:37:24am

re: #240 darthstar

I remember Barney Frank once telling a Republican (can’t remember which) that debating him like having an argument with a table. It was freakin’ hilarious and the GOP was OUTRAGED by the insult.

So, probably, was the table.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:52:03am

Good thread on the fascist attack on Drag Queens and the transgendered.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:55:47am

re: #240 darthstar

I remember Barney Frank once telling a Republican (can’t remember which) that debating him like having an argument with a table. It was freakin’ hilarious and the GOP was OUTRAGED by the insult.

“On what planet do you spend most of your time?” Frank asked, adding, “Ma’am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it.”

globalcomment.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:56:17am

re: #241 William Lewis

Heh. The “Battle of Palmdale” showed the Air Force, at least, that unguided rockets did not work at all.

An issue in the entire period, and probably still true today*, is that a lot of the weapons systems do not work as advertised or are a lot less effective than the military wants them to be.

To a certain degree the USN did not get a coordinated fleet defense system working to an appreciable degree until the 1980s when digital systems and stuff like AEGIS helped out a lot with coordinating information and use of resources. And the 1948 specification was probably not successfully met until the 1960s (and the F4 Phantom). Of course, right then they were also involved in Vietnam and needed the carriers to have a considerable conventional strike capability. In compensation by then the SLBM program had made strategic nuclear weapon delivery by the carriers less important - though they still had some tactical capability there.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:56:26am

re: #240 darthstar

I remember Barney Frank once telling a Republican (can’t remember which) that debating him like having an argument with a table. It was freakin’ hilarious and the GOP was OUTRAGED by the insult.

Barney had that dialogue with a LaRouchite during the ACA debate.

Barney Frank Floored By Nazi Insult at Town Hall

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 8:58:45am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

“On what planet do you spend most of your time?” Frank asked, adding, “Ma’am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it.”

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I essentially calculate whether engagement with someone over some issue is worth it all the time. I don’t plan on trolling. I plan on bringing some references and holding a civil disagreement. The calculation is whether I think the potential opponent will do the same and how much BS I will be willing to counter as part of the exchange.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:00:54am

re: #247 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And I STILL have relatives who refuse to sign up for Medicaid and health insurance thru the ACA because they STILL regurgitate the teabagger bullshit. Nevermind that they have disabled children who really need that help.

Their hatred of Obama TRUMPS everything else.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:01:31am

re: #246 Joe Bacon

Barney had that dialogue with a LaRouchite during the ACA debate.

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And the end result: Obamacare is so popular that after running heavily against it through 4 election cycles and failing to repeal it because they have no alternative plan, the GOP never talks about Obamacare anymore.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:05:11am

re: #249 No Malarkey!

And the end result: Obamacare is so popular that after running heavily against it through 4 election cycles and failing to repeal it because they have no alternative plan, the GOP never talks about Obamacare anymore.

I only ever see it brought up now by a Berniebro I know who blames Obama for us not having M4A now. I’m pretty pragmatic about US politics given the tight balance we have and thus purity ponies do sort of annoy me since they seem to fail to understand that half the cake now is better than no cake until a few decades from now (if ever).

Doesn’t help that there seems to be a racist undercurrent in the Berniebro rhetoric when Obama comes up either.

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Florida Panhandler  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:08:28am

re: #206 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The entire concept of the US was flimsy to start with, too much variation in ideals. Unless white landowner. How the fragmentation occurs is the question that I have. I think I’ve said this before — right and left coasts along with the upper states (excluding iduho, Montana, and north Dakota) Ok, maybe Wisconsin and bits of Michigan.

Them we trade with the food supplier states and leave the rest to rot. Sorry lizards in blue areas of red stupid, I don’t have an answer.

The problem with the US breaking up is that right wingers, despite claims of being for “freedom” are imperialist sr heart completely happy with simply violently taking what they want because they “are chose people”, or simply desire it. Blue areas will be under constant threat and countless warlord attacks and raids from outside.

The model of civilization right wingers have wanted for decades now is a theocratic Mad Max. They want complete local tribal authority (presumably with powerful family groups controlling everything) and the destruction of everything that is 20th Century modern authority. Their reality will be an American Putin taking over most of the “red areas” however. … and a leader eager for military claims to his name.

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nines09  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:09:45am

Corey Smith - Daddy’s Weed (Official Music Video)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:09:51am

re: #236 ericblair

Quebec basically wanted their own Balkan enclave where they could Francophile everything and run roughshod over their English-speaking and First People minorities in the name of “protecting our cultural heritage”. While keeping any and all benefits of belonging to the larger Canadian nation.

I visited Montreal in the mid-70s a few times and the English-speaking community was pretty vibrant and Montreal itself was doing well. From my understanding things there, in part due to migration out during the separation crises, is that things are definitely different there now.

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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:11:12am

re: #250 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I only ever see it brought up now by a Berniebro I know who blames Obama for us not having M4A now. I’m pretty pragmatic about US politics given the tight balance we have and thus purity ponies do sort of annoy me since they seem to fail to understand that half the cake now is better than no cake until a few decades from now (if ever).

Doesn’t help that there seems to be a racist undercurrent in the Berniebro rhetoric when Obama comes up either.

It’s always M4A, instead of universal healthcare, in these complaints because the Berniebros turned it from a practical policy instrument into an exercise in fealty to leftie demands. The policy itself had no importance, and it was pretty clear that most of the backers had no experience with what vanilla Medicare actually gives you. You either bent the knee or were a libtard squish.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:15:25am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:16:17am

re: #251 Florida Panhandler

The problem with the US breaking up is that right wingers, despite claims of being for “freedom” are imperialist sr heart completely happy with simply violently taking what they want because they “are chose people”, or simply desire it. Blue areas will be under constant threat and countless warlord attacks and raids from outside.

The model of civilization right wingers have wanted for decades now is a theocratic Mad Max. They want complete local tribal authority (presumably with powerful family groups controlling everything) and the destruction of everything that is 20th Century modern authority. Their reality will be an American Putin taking over most of the “red areas” however. … and a leader eager for military claims to his name.

Stephenson’s “Ameristan” essentially. Where the local warlord might trade peaceful access for some tourists (escorted by a mercenary company) in exchange for a few boxes of medicated hemorrhoid pads.

And the “blue”-“red” border would be militarized towards preventing said warlord raids. I presume with some sort of patrolled DMZ using drones from the “blue” side. I think in Stephenson’s case the “red” areas fairly quickly were out of high-tech weaponry and were more armed with conventional weaponry up to machine guns and recoilless rifles. Which a high-tech military could decimate relatively easily in open ground if they needed to.

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William Lewis  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:17:18am

re: #245 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

To be sure.

I always laughed at and could never take any of Tom Clancy’s books seriously because he was such a fanboy of the military-industrial complex. EVERYTHING always worked perfectly the first time and every time. “Maxim 48. If it ain’t broke, it hasn’t been issued to the infantry”

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:20:19am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

“On what planet do you spend most of your time?” Frank asked, adding, “Ma’am, trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it.”

globalcomment.com

That was it…good times. I miss having Barney Frank in Congress.

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ericblair  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:22:36am

re: #253 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Quebec basically wanted their own Balkan enclave where they could Francophile everything and run roughshod over their English-speaking and First People minorities in the name of “protecting our cultural heritage”. While keeping any and all benefits of belonging to the larger Canadian nation.

I visited Montreal in the mid-70s a few times and the English-speaking community was pretty vibrant and Montreal itself was doing well. From my understanding things there, in part due to migration out during the separation crises, is that things are definitely different there now.

It’s still a pretty bilingual place now: people will switch between English and French in the middle of a sentence and don’t mind using either one. The separatists have had a string of political losses, essentially because Quebeckers in general got pretty sick of the separatist politicians blaming everything in life on les anglais instead of, you know, fixing the fucking roads or the medical system. There’s a lot of renewed building in Montreal, and I like the city.

The separatists used a pretty familiar playbook: they were always the victims, always the oppressed, and therefore could use any tactic to save themselves, including of course shitting on the rights of anybody else. There’s an “out” in the Canadian constitution called the notwithstanding clause, where a provincial government could suspend a constitutional right if they deemed it necessary. This got used in Quebec to limit English language rights, wearing of religious symbols by provincial employees, and various other culture issues. This was a bad idea that got thrown in to get the new constitution over the finish line in the 1980s, which should also sound familiar to anybody who knows the US constitution’s origins.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:25:45am

‘Are they all dumb?’ Tim Scott ridiculed after grossly distorting the First Amendment and religious freedom

alternet.org

Earlier this month, right-wing Daily Wire commentator Charlie Kirk proclaimed that the United States was founded as a “Christian country” right before expressing his aversion to democracy. But on Saturday, Senator Tim Scott (R-South Carolina) - a potential 2024 presidential contender - took an even greater leap than Kirk during a conversation with Iowa Republican Party Chairman Jeff Kaufmann.

“What should the, what should the next president do? What is the most immediate actions that the next president can do to stand for religious liberty?” Kaufmann asked Scott.

“We must tell the story of our Constitution that the First Amendment was written to protect the church from the state, not the state, from the church,” Scott replied.

Scott’s assessment is not rooted in fact, precedent, or the intent of the Constitution’s framers, who were outspoken about their concerns about religion creeping into politics. His suggestion that the president has the power to declare a national religion also completely clashes with basic historical evidence.

One of the most glaring examples is what James Madison feared in an 1803 letter opposing the construction of houses of worship on public property.

“The purpose of separation of Church and State is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries,” Madison wrote.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:28:27am

Mikey likes white guys shooting people.

Mike Pence defends Ralph Yarl and Kaylin Gillis shootings as response to ‘crime wave’

Mike Pence defends deaths of innocent gun victims

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:32:49am

re: #261 Joe Bacon

Mikey likes white guys shooting people.

Mike Pence defends Ralph Yarl and Kaylin Gillis shootings as response to ‘crime wave’

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Mike Pence blowing the racist dog whistle like a professional…escort.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:35:04am

re: #262 darthstar

Mike Pence blowing the racist dog whistle like a professional…escort.

Turns out only white dogs are deaf to those whistles.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:42:10am

There’s a cajun restaurant at the harbor in Rockwall called Dodie’s. Their website is featuring a countdown to Mardi Gras next year.

dodiesattheharbor.com

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:42:14am

re: #237 The Pie Overlord!

Debates are worthless because all the “Debate Me!” trolls like Ben Shapiro use debate structure to vomit out a Gish Gallop of talking points, forcing opponents to use up all their time to refute the talking points.

Debate is also worthless because they lie without shame…an entirely viable tactic for winning a debate but utterly unproductive for the task of accurately describing and problem and then modeling a solution. If you take the time to refute them it still won’t work because their audience can discard the refutation because they have no epistemology or interest in the process of establishing truth: truth is what they need it to be.

So much of what reactionaries want is based in theorems that include counterfactuals: things that haven’t worked being re-implemented because the point isn’t their efficacy, but that there is a moral order that demands their implementation. But on examination it’s really just another expression of their belief in hierarchy: the thing must be done because it increases class distinctions, and that is good because people should be sorted and should have different degrees of franchise.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 23, 2023 • 9:44:26am

re: #261 Joe Bacon

Mikey likes white guys shooting people.

Mike Pence defends Ralph Yarl and Kaylin Gillis shootings as response to ‘crime wave’

[Embedded content]

I worry about the guy who delivers meds for my pharmacy. He is in his 20s, black, and very big and imposing physically. He drives a black pickup with custom wheels. He works in the pharmacy in the mornings then does the deliveries in the afternoon. Naturally this requires him to go right to the front doors of many elderly white people. Most know him. He is a welcome sight in many cases. I especially appreciate the delivery service because I don’t like to go into town just to pick up a prescription. What if someone new is on the route though? Worse, what if a customer has a Fox-indoctrinated neighbor who decides to intervene against what they see as an obvious threat? It’s getting gotten crazy out there.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:04:31am

Morning Lizards. Can I interest you in some brunch?

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:07:00am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:08:40am
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Captain Ron  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:13:01am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:15:00am

re: #268 Joe Bacon

That did not work for me a few years ago. I just got out of bankruptcy and someone was able to use my old Target account to get credit card at Kohl’s. Thank G-d I had LifeLock and that card was cancelled.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:15:13am
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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:17:41am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

So when is Sleazy E going to give the KKK the Gold Checkmark Treatment?

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:21:50am

re: #261 Joe Bacon

Pence’s post-Jan 6 behavior has been an endorsement of the Jan. 6 mob.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:21:58am
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Teukka  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:28:21am

ℹ️ PSA for Lizardim in Sweden: ℹ️
As part of the Aurora 23 exercise, a mobilization message will be transmitted on Swedish Public Radio (Sveriges Radio (SR)) during the day tomorrow. This will only be a test.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:28:50am
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nines09  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:29:15am

re: #277 jaunte

So just another day in paradise.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:31:08am

re: #278 nines09

Jasper is deep in Klan kountry.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:31:26am

re: #277 jaunte

Nine teenagers ages 15 to 19 were shot at post-prom party this morning north of Jasper, Texas.

The end result—The Texas legislature will further loosen gun laws.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:32:10am
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:32:20am

re: #243 No Malarkey!

Good thread on the fascist attack on Drag Queens and the transgendered.

Link


It is painfully clear that this is a wedge issue that exists for the sake of being a wedge issue, not because there’s a pressing problem that really needs to be addressed.

This week, The New York Times had a piece that confirmed that very obvious inference. In short, about a decade ago, the anti-gay stuff stopped working for conservative political activists. In part, that is because gay became (largely) OK. In part, it is because the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage, leaving the anti-gay-marriage movement nowhere to go. After all, if you can’t get your right-wing policy through SCOTUS, you’re sure as heck not getting it through Congress.

So, these activists began casting about for another issue they could use to galvanize voters behind Republican candidates.

…..

And finally, there’s the “think of the children” angle. Understandably, people get extremely protective when it comes to their kids. And the three big policies that anti-trans politicians tend to focus on—bathroom bills, high school sports, and banning gender-affirming treatments—can be and are framed as attempts to protect children.

In short, what we have here is an issue that connects with the Republicans’ traditional, evangelical base, but that also has the potential to win over older voters and parents who might not otherwise cast their ballots for Republicans. There aren’t too many issues left like that, no matter how much spinning you do.

…if you’re a political organization, particularly one that is in the minority and is dependent on the support of groups whose size, relative to the overall populace, is shrinking, then you have to find ways to rally voters to your banner. But it’s clear this has very little to do with good governance or with addressing the problems that face 21st century American society, and has a great deal to do with finding and exploiting wedge issues for the sake of maintaining political power. That is how House Republicans can be unanimous on bills about girls’ high school sports, but can’t get anything else passed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:34:50am
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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:36:41am

re: #268 Joe Bacon

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if your identity is stolen and your credit score goes up, you might be…

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Dangerman  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:37:30am

re: #274 jaunte

Pence’s post-Jan 6 behavior has been an endorsement of the Jan. 6 mob.

… that was going to kill him

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:38:01am

re: #283 Backwoods_Sleuth

that time Bród went looking for his human during an official event

President of Ireland’s Dog Steals the Show at Official Event in Dublin

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coin operated  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:39:40am

re: #268 Joe Bacon

Start living debt-free and you’ll get the same result.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:41:08am

re: #285 Dangerman

Mikey proves to the whole world just how much of a wimp he really is.

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Belafon  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:41:17am

re: #287 coin operated

Start living debt-free and you’ll get the same result.

Like the lady who lost her completely paid for house because someone put a lean on it and then claimed it without her knowing?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:41:52am

Copperhead Road

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:44:44am

re: #270 Captain Ron

No doubt being attributed to the Hand of God punishing the heathen Disney horde for their apostasy. Seems a pretty mild rebuke, though, for an entity that could just as easily have turned the park into a smoking crater. God might at least have called out 40 bears to devour the Disney managers, as one of His prophets is acknowledged to have done with some insolent children.

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Captain Ron  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:47:08am
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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:50:35am

re: #292 Captain Ron

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Darien Gap, one of the least civilized places in the hemisphere. Suitable place for anti-vaxxers.

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jaunte  Apr 23, 2023 • 10:53:34am

re: #292 Captain Ron

“I went to the Darien Gap during a dengue outbreak and I’m not feeling so good. Obviously it’s a Chinese communist plot.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 23, 2023 • 11:53:39am

re: #293 wrenchwench

Darien Gap, one of the least civilized places in the hemisphere. Suitable place for anti-vaxxers.

It’s also dangerous as fuck. No roads. No cell towers. No hospitals. No police.

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wrenchwench  Apr 23, 2023 • 12:09:01pm

re: #295 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s also dangerous as fuck. No roads. No cell towers. No hospitals. No police.

I.e., civilization.

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darthstar  Apr 23, 2023 • 1:08:07pm

re: #267 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Morning Lizards. Can I interest you in some brunch?

[Embedded content]

I had biscuits & gravy with a couple of fried eggs today…did not suck.


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