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retired cynic  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:29:52am

The Nooks and Crannies of Amsterdam Are a Canvas for Frankey’s Playful Interventions
thisiscolossal.com

I would so do this, if I were younger, and had the imagination, and the ability to make things. So cool!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:30:24am

40% of Boeing’s revenue (20-odd billion USD) comes from US and foreign government defense contracts.

I think it is a bit of a joke to treat them as a private company.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:33:05am

“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

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Nerdy Fish  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:33:45am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

See, for example, the NC Lt. Gov., now candidate for governor after winning the Republican primary.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:34:35am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

It’s just bad publicity at this point. He will be welcome back after the GOP wins the elections…

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danarchy  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:35:48am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What percentage of Boeing depends on US Gov’t contracts? I think it is a bit of a joke to treat them as a private company.

About 39%

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:36:15am

@lolgop.bsky.social

Here’s a pretty simple formula.
If we’re talking about “the border” in November, this race is Donald Trump’s to lose.
If we’re talking about freedom, he loses.
theframelab.org

……

Don’t believe me when I say race-baiting about immigration is all MAGA has. Believe the 445 ads they’ve already run trying to divide America over the issue.

DKOS:
This poll confirms it: Immigration is all Republicans have left

……

And of course, as is always true these days, if Republicans are focused on an issue so is Putin. And versa vice.

Texas Standard:
Russian propaganda promotes civil war over Texas border dispute

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:37:28am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

He’s embarrassing.

That the only reason people get punted.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:37:30am

We’re all gonna die:

… Nanoplastics have been found in human blood, lung and liver tissues, urine and feces, mother’s milk, and the placenta. Until now, however, research has yet to determine just what impact those polymers may have on the body’s organs and functions…

… A recent study (cnn.com) found 1 liter of bottled water — the equivalent of two standard-size bottled waters typically purchased by consumers — contained an average of 240,000 plastic particles from seven types of plastics — 90% were nanoplastics…

… The new study examined tissue removed from the neck arteries of 257 people who underwent carotid endarterectomy.
“It’s kind of a barbaric procedure. Surgeons open up the carotid artery and literally dissect all of the sludge, the plaque, that’s built up in there,” said Dr. Andrew Freeman, director of cardiovascular prevention and wellness at National Jewish Health in Denver. He was not involved in the research…

… Measurable amounts of polyethylene, a common plastic used in plastic wrap, plastic bags, and food and drink containers, were found in the plaque tissues of 150 people in the study… .

cnn.com

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jeffreyw  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:39:06am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:39:31am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

40% of Boeing’s revenue (20-odd billion USD) comes from US and foreign government defense contracts.

I think it is a bit of a joke to treat them as a private company.

But which government?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:41:13am

re: #11 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

But which government?

37% USA another 3% foreign governments. (I went and looked it up)

They are far far removed from anything we would call a Free Market player

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EPR-radar  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:44:34am

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

40% of Boeing’s revenue (20-odd billion USD) comes from US and foreign government defense contracts.

I think it is a bit of a joke to treat them as a private company.

“Privatized arm of the Federal Government” is a pretty accurate way to refer to defense contractors

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:49:03am

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

37% USA another 3% foreign governments. (I went and looked it up)

They are far far removed from anything we would call a Free Market player

Because they don’t operate under the same rules as the free market. They’re under a different type of structure, that borrows some from the free market, specifically the idea that competition will make things better and cheaper.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:51:36am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

the retrumplican party edges closer and closer to merely repeating things adolph hitler said, and i already can’t tell the difference between the kkk and maga

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Charles  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:54:45am

iOS and macOS updates are out today, with important security fixes.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:56:13am

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

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“Contradicts our parties values and platform.”

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

c’mon he was just ‘honorary’
he never inhaled

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Teukka  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:57:17am

re: #17 Dangerman

c’mon he was just ‘honorary’
he never inhaled

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“McClanahan”. Really? Really?

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:57:18am

re: #16 Charles

iOS and macOS updates are out today, with important security fixes.

Is that iOS 17.4?

Already updated…

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Backwoods Sleuth  Mar 7, 2024 • 11:59:21am
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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:00:08pm

re: #18 Teukka

“McClanahan”. Really? Really?

he said he is “not and never has been” a member of the KKK. He was, however, “provided an Honorary 1-year membership” by the group’s state coordinator

however in response to the move today, he tweeted in part, “The GOP knew exactly who I am. … What a bunch of Anti-White hypocrites.”

so that’s all we really need to know

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:00:26pm

From the AP: DT is ordered to pay legal fees after failed lawsuit over the Steele dossier.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:01:04pm

re: #14 Belafon

Because they don’t operate under the same rules as the free market. They’re under a different type of structure, that borrows some from the free market, specifically the idea that competition will make things better and cheaper.

Especially when they are the sole supplier and are granted a no-bid cost-plus contract. Then they are little different than any conglomerate operating in the USSR.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:02:24pm

re: #22 PhillyPretzel ✅

From the AP: DT is ordered to pay legal fees after failed lawsuit over the Steele dossier.

“Just put it on my tab.”

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JC1  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:03:49pm

re: #9 BeenHereAwhile

We’re all gonna die:

… Nanoplastics have been found in human blood, lung and liver tissues, urine and feces, mother’s milk, and the placenta. Until now, however, research has yet to determine just what impact those polymers may have on the body’s organs and functions…

… A recent study (cnn.com) found 1 liter of bottled water — the equivalent of two standard-size bottled waters typically purchased by consumers — contained an average of 240,000 plastic particles from seven types of plastics — 90% were nanoplastics…

… The new study examined tissue removed from the neck arteries of 257 people who underwent carotid endarterectomy.
“It’s kind of a barbaric procedure. Surgeons open up the carotid artery and literally dissect all of the sludge, the plaque, that’s built up in there,” said Dr. Andrew Freeman, director of cardiovascular prevention and wellness at National Jewish Health in Denver. He was not involved in the research…

… Measurable amounts of polyethylene, a common plastic used in plastic wrap, plastic bags, and food and drink containers, were found in the plaque tissues of 150 people in the study… .

cnn.com

Isn’t plastic largely biologically inert? Seems like the fa(s)t food lobby is looking for a new boogeyman to blame for heart attacks.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:04:53pm

re: #16 Charles

iOS and macOS updates are out today, with important security fixes.

Oh look new emoji!
(don‘t recall ever using an emoji)

But yea security updates!!!

And the iPhones OCR gets full marks.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:04:59pm

re: #19 Jay C

Is that iOS 17.4?

Already updated…

Ditto. I got my new firebird emoji.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:06:58pm

re: #2 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

40% of Boeing’s revenue comes from US and foreign government defense contracts.

I think it is a bit of a joke to treat them as a private company.

The part that makes them a private company is where the revenue goes.

What we’re looking at is neoliberal market structure (Thatcherism), where the base premise is that the government isn’t agile enough to create viable goods or innovate technology, so ideally the government takes aspects of the state’s production activity (like infrastructure or military logistics and material) and contract it to private companies that will…in theory…create goods and services that are cheaper and more efficient.

Mostly this doesn’t work…the entire “military-industrial complex” speech predicts what privatization creates, a blob of government and commercial interests that have no incentive to correctly define problems, but to invent problems with pricey solutions…but comparatively speaking Boeing used to give pretty good product relative to what it was paid by the USA…at least compared to other aspects of the Defense Blob that has so thoroughly rotted the distinction between “what we need” and “what we want to sell.”

And while privatization is bad, what’s killing Boeing…and killing people in Boeings…is the growth-at-any-costs model of business where you cut as many corners as possible, actuarially calculate how much you can get away with, dial up risk for workers and consumers…and turn all the savings into profits so that your quarterlies look amazing.

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danarchy  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:08:45pm

re: #9 BeenHereAwhile

We’re all gonna die:

… Nanoplastics have been found in human blood, lung and liver tissues, urine and feces, mother’s milk, and the placenta. Until now, however, research has yet to determine just what impact those polymers may have on the body’s organs and functions…

… A recent study (cnn.com) found 1 liter of bottled water — the equivalent of two standard-size bottled waters typically purchased by consumers — contained an average of 240,000 plastic particles from seven types of plastics — 90% were nanoplastics…

… The new study examined tissue removed from the neck arteries of 257 people who underwent carotid endarterectomy.
“It’s kind of a barbaric procedure. Surgeons open up the carotid artery and literally dissect all of the sludge, the plaque, that’s built up in there,” said Dr. Andrew Freeman, director of cardiovascular prevention and wellness at National Jewish Health in Denver. He was not involved in the research…

… Measurable amounts of polyethylene, a common plastic used in plastic wrap, plastic bags, and food and drink containers, were found in the plaque tissues of 150 people in the study… .

cnn.com

My problem with this is the “measurable amounts” part. We are really good at measuring very small amounts. I don’t really care if it is a measurable amount, I want to know if it is a clinically significant amount.

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Randall Gross  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:11:10pm

That was pretty scathing, I’ve got to go so I can rebook some flights…

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Dr. Matt  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:11:35pm
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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:12:58pm

re: #23 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Especially when they are the sole supplier and are granted a no-bid cost-plus contract. Then they are little different than any conglomerate operating in the USSR.

Very few of those exist, unless Trump gets back in charge. Most everything requires competitive bids. There have even been a few weird things done in an attempt by the government to foster competition.

A big problem is that it’s a monopsony, a single customer. And that has some weird issues especially since it involves taxpayer money.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:13:47pm

There’s a good documentary about Boeing on Netflix.

en.wikipedia.org

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:16:21pm

I’ve never had a desire to take a cruise but apparently they are more popular than ever:

How cruise ships became a catastrophe for the planet | It’s Complicated

..

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:16:43pm

re: #31 Dr. Matt

Teammates put peanuts in allergic student’s locker. District said it wasn’t bullying

I agree, it’s not bullying. It’s attempted murder.

From the link:

the school police department decided criminal charges were not warranted.

Texas school police departments are scary.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:17:21pm

re: #20 Backwoods Sleuth

The Boston Globe
@BostonGlobe@press.coop

RuPaul is sending a rainbow bus to give away books targeted by bans
The star, whose show “RuPaul’s Drag Race” has an international following, is one of the founders of a new online bookstore promoting underrepresented authors.
The post RuPaul is sending a rainbow bus to give away books targeted by bans appeared first on boston.com.
#press

Dolly Parton’s lending books in drag.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:22:32pm

re: #34 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I had one scheduled…for September 2020.

So yeah, that didn’t work out so well and haven’t had a strong desire to book again ever since.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:23:15pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:24:12pm

re: #25 JC1

Isn’t plastic largely biologically inert? Seems like the fa(s)t food lobby is looking for a new boogeyman to blame for heart attacks.

Plastic is organic polymers. Under the right circumstances it decays and breaks down into smaller organic components.

The question then becomes at what point a stray subcomponent fucks with the organic molecules that make up biological life. Cell signaling is all “put organic widget a into receiving slot B”; things like protein folding are effected by other molecules within the cytoplasm; etc.

And that just the intracellular level. There’s an open question of whether plastic decay results in endocrine disruption, because that’s a particular unusual intercellular information relay that involves cascades of molecule…and it’s maybe not good to have similar molecule bits just kind of…in you floating around.

Literally just having non-tissue stuff interspersed amongst tissue is an issue independent of reactivity. The body respond to stray…stuff…by creating plaques, enclosing it like a grosser version of a pearl.

Everybody having stray stuff in them is probably an issue…but it’s also one of those things where it will take forever to describe the mechanism, and the profit motive means that such concerns will be sandbagged in ways that resemble the “skepticism” that inhaling volatized (on fire) organic material that formed tar on lung tissue could be mutagenic. Consider that here and now pesticide companies still won’t acknowledge how carcinogenic long-term, low-dose exposure is.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:24:44pm

re: #38 Backwoods Sleuth

Very cool.

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nines09  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:26:41pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

Excellent explanation. Props.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:28:08pm

re: #38 Backwoods Sleuth

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Never realized the Romans made it all the way up to what is modern day Scotland.

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:28:52pm

re: #25 JC1

Isn’t plastic largely biologically inert? Seems like the fa(s)t food lobby is looking for a new boogeyman to blame for heart attacks.

If so - presumably the plastic particles can’t be eliminated from body tissue and vascular systems, and continue to accumulate.

Guess we need to develop plastic nano bots to filter unwanted plastic nano particles

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:29:54pm

re: #42 Dr. Matt

Never realized the Romans made it all the way up to what is modern day Scotland.

The lust for haggis knows no bounds.

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piratedan  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:31:46pm

re: #43 BeenHereAwhile

JUST A TIDY TRICK OF BIOCHEMISTRY AND GENE MODIFICATION TO HAVE IT INTERNALLY ATTACH THOSE PLASTICS TO FAT CELLS AND THEN FLUSH THEM THRU THE DIGESTIVE TRACT :-)

I’LL GET MY PEEPS RIGHT ON IT…. :-)

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:34:37pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

We’re the guinea pigs in this experiment, but most of the scientists have been fired because fossil fuel holds the purse strings.

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Dr. Matt  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:35:32pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

The lust for haggis knows no bounds.

Paired with a well aged single malt whisky.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:35:50pm

re: #12 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of the great delusions of modern capitalism is that weapons manufacturing is subject to a market economy and a capitalist activity. How can it be when there is only one customer? That customer is the government.

They sell to the government and their income is from the government. Their product is a consumer good that contributes only as much to the economy as the money spent by them. And since their income is all taxpayer money it drains funds that could be used for different and better things. Public healthcare for example.

The Soviet Union spent itself to destruction on weapons. Sometimes it looks like the US will do the same thing.

Weapons are a political necessity but an economic negative. - John Ralston Saul

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:38:30pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

“Just put it on my tab.”

Sorry, sir, but your credit card has been denied.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:40:01pm

re: #14 Belafon

Unless capitalism decides there isn’t enough money in it.

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:40:08pm

re: #48 Romantic Heretic

Agree with some, but don’t entirely agree with this:

And since their income is all taxpayer money it drains funds that could be used for different and better things.

Raise taxes on the rich, and we can pay for both. And, as we all know, cutting spending in one area just leads to tax cuts, not spending in other areas.

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:46:35pm

re: #44 Decatur Deb

The lust for haggis knows no bounds.

Wasn’t ‘Lust for Haggis’ that 90’s breakout thriller starring Ewan McGregor?

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BeenHereAwhile  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:48:18pm

re: #47 Dr. Matt

Paired with a well aged single malt whisky.

But first - two drinks of whisky then the haggis.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:48:30pm

re: #52 sizzzzlerz

Wasn’t ‘Lust for Haggis’ that 90’s breakout thriller starring Ewan McGregor?

Don’t think so. Was Stormy McDaniels in it?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:49:04pm

re: #32 Belafon

Very few of those exist, unless Trump gets back in charge. Most everything requires competitive bids. There have even been a few weird things done in an attempt by the government to foster competition.

A big problem is that it’s a monopsony, a single customer. And that has some weird issues especially since it involves taxpayer money.

I’m not sure what the name would be for this, but a deep problem with military procurement is how consumption is dictated by speculation and speculation can be steered towards conclusions that create profitable outcomes for market actors. I guess that’s a feature of monopsony—the single consumer can simply announce what is demanded?

But it doesn’t feel fully descriptive of the phenomenon; for example, the “Bomber Gap” and the “Missile Gap” manufactured demand in a way that favored no particular contractor, but vastly increased the gross funding for that sector of defense without regard for actual efficacy.

More recently, the decision to decimate Iraq and contract Halliburton (who then subcontracted tasks in turn) to do the reconstruction is a pretty good example of a now-common phenomenon of using policy to effect transfers of commonwealth…taxpayer money…to private entities, with the pass-through mechanism being not just the military conflict but the ideological justification of the conflict as a peacekeeping mission.

I focus in on these two things because I feel that monopsony is a secondary factor, while the harder-to-label primary factor is that private institutions built only to make money can make money without providing a useful service or good as long as they control the boundaries of what policy will fund. If we looked over at the defense-adjacent petroleum sector, I think we can see the same phenomeon of forcing the demand play out across multiple consumers.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:53:42pm

re: #29 danarchy

My problem with this is the “measurable amounts” part. We are really good at measuring very small amounts. I don’t really care if it is a measurable amount, I want to know if it is a clinically significant amount.

Nano and micro — yes, there is a major issue in the size and effect. Nano plastic particles are on the FDA’s radar. The problem is, a you note, we (the scientific (elites) community) have no good endpoint for effect. They may be there, but are they doing anything, or even problematic? This is an important unknown.

The word nano is being over used as it sounds dangerous or very techy, but true nano particles are really not so common, most are in the micro scale. The food industry really wants to start using nano particles size stuff, but that ain’t happening soon.

There is also the issue with rapidly improving detection, we can detect fraction of parts per trillion (and soon will be able to detect orders of magnitude greater; at some point, individual molecules) but does the detection of something means it’s a problem? When you look for something dangerous or posited to be dangerous, you’re going to find it in common places. What do you do with that information? E.g., furan is a carcinogen, you get the majority of your furan intake from coffee and cooking foods that have sugar in them. Bad, good, or just pray of life and built into our background danger of living?

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:54:03pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

The process by which Defense requirements become working systems is fairly straightforward:

This is real, swear to god.
slideshare.net

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danarchy  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:54:27pm

re: #39 The Ghost of a Flea

Plastic is organic polymers. Under the right circumstances it decays and breaks down into smaller organic components.

The question then becomes at what point a stray subcomponent fucks with the organic molecules that make up biological life. Cell signaling is all “put organic widget a into receiving slot B”; things like protein folding are effected by other molecules within the cytoplasm; etc.

And that just the intracellular level. There’s an open question of whether plastic decay results in endocrine disruption, because that’s a particular unusual intercellular information relay that involves cascades of molecule…and it’s maybe not good to have similar molecule bits just kind of…in you floating around.

Literally just having non-tissue stuff interspersed amongst tissue is an issue independent of reactivity. The body respond to stray…stuff…by creating plaques, enclosing it like a grosser version of a pearl.

Everybody having stray stuff in them is probably an issue…but it’s also one of those things where it will take forever to describe the mechanism, and the profit motive means that such concerns will be sandbagged in ways that resemble the “skepticism” that inhaling volatized (on fire) organic material that formed tar on lung tissue could be mutagenic. Consider that here and now pesticide companies still won’t acknowledge how carcinogenic long-term, low-dose exposure is.

Again the question is how much is there and how much does it take to be harmful. It is like that recent paper released by the “Environental Working Group” about how they found chlormequat in Cheerios and Quaker Oats etc.

Of course the levels they found were a fraction of the safe dose set by the FDA and EU governing bodies, and they generally set those safe levels an order of magnitude or more lower than what they actually know to be dangerous. They do this almost every year, release something sensationalist that sounds scary, but really isn’t. Someone did the calculations and it turns out you would need to eat hundreds of kilograms of oats every single day to reach the level set by the FDA, because also the human body is very good at removing chlormequat so it isn’t one of those things that builds up over time.

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gocart mozart  Mar 7, 2024 • 12:59:22pm
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:01:01pm

Preview of what Joe is going to say in State of the Union address from WHYY:
whyy.org

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Belafon  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:04:01pm

“the Biden Admin is all communists, marxists, fascists, socialists, seamstrists, bakerists, wafflists, barberists, ranchists, potatoists, frutists, zoologists, chemists, children-doctorists, …”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:04:20pm

re: #58 danarchy

Of course the levels they found were a fraction of the safe dose set by the FDA and EU governing bodies, and they generally set those safe levels an order of magnitude or more lower than what they actually know to be dangerous.

FDA uses a 10x factor for safety * a 10x factor for animal studies at a minimum (so, 100x) for non-carcinogens; carcinogens are proscribed by the Delaney clause in food Additives — this is a potential issue now due to improved testing from when the Food Additives Amend went was passed in 1958.

For products (like packaging) carcinogens have a minimum 10^6 safety threshold with addition review.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:07:13pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

The process by which Defense requirements become working systems is fairly straightforward:

[Embedded content]

This is real, swear to god.

In the business, we refer to this as a “Spaghetti Chart”. There is no real way for a layperson to derive meaning from this graph.

But it satisfies some general who likes to see boxes and arrows.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:11:05pm

re: #63 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

In the business, we refer to this as a “Spaghetti Chart”. There is no real way for a layperson to derive meaning from this graph.

But it satisfies some general who likes to see boxes and arrows.

I flew from Tel Aviv to Dallas to take a 2-week Defense Acquisition University class on that.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:15:19pm

re: #61 Belafon

“the Biden Admin is all communists, marxists, fascists, socialists, seamstrists, bakerists, wafflists, barberists, ranchists, potatoists, frutists, zoologists, chemists, children-doctorists, …”

…and Methodists…

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EPR-radar  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:17:09pm

re: #60 PhillyPretzel ✅

That seems like a very conventional SOTU agenda. I think a substantial part of the speech should be flat-out campaigning against Republicans. It really is civilization (D) vs. barbarians (R), and while Biden can’t say that at the SOTU, I think it would be remiss to ignore the single most pressing issue of all — the degeneration of the GOP into a fascist cesspit of Satan.

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:17:27pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

I flew from Tel Aviv to Dallas to take a 2-week Defense Acquisition University class on that.

how did they get that chart off the ground

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:18:45pm

re: #67 Dangerman

how did they get that chart off the ground

Foamcore. It has a fantastic lift to load ratio.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:20:35pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

One of many reasons why I am not going to watch the goings on. It would make me too upset to see people who should not interrupt the speech doing exactly that because DT wants it that way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:20:56pm

re: #67 Dangerman

how did they get that chart off the ground

I’ll have to make a chart to explain it to you.

/

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:24:10pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

“The Horse Blanket”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:24:31pm

re: #67 Dangerman

how did they get that chart off the ground

With a big enough engine even a brick can fly.
:)

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:25:03pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

I think it would be remiss to ignore the single most pressing issue of all — the degeneration of the GOP into a fascist cesspit of Satan.

Sounds like the Republicans are going to rely on Donald Trump to drive THAT point home…

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:25:45pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

The process by which Defense requirements become working systems is fairly straightforward:

[Embedded content]

This is real, swear to god.
slideshare.net

Looking at that chart, it should no longer be a mystery why DOD-spec hammers cost $600+

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:26:43pm

re: #71 So Cal Greek Hippie

“The Horse Blanket”

“The Slide From Hell” to those who know and love it.

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Nerdy Fish  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:28:07pm

re: #72 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

With a big enough engine even a brick can fly.
:)

See, for example, the Boeing B-52 Stratofortress.

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:30:11pm

re: #63 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

In the business, we refer to this as a “Spaghetti Chart”. There is no real way for a layperson to derive meaning from this graph.

But it satisfies some general who likes to see boxes and arrows.

Especially when each of those boxes represents a captain, major, or colonel to run that part of the procurement, each of whom, along with their staffs, report to that general. It’s a game of fiefdoms with the winner being the one having the biggest budgets and most people.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:31:16pm

re: #74 sizzzzlerz

Looking at that chart, it should no longer be a mystery why DOD-spec hammers cost $600+

My favourite story about ‘mil-spec’ and the ridiculous requirements it enforces concerned the coffee maker on the P-3 Orion anti-sub aircraft. It was designed to take something like 1,000 G of impact.

So, in the words of one wag, “If it crashes there will be hot coffee waiting for the people who come to pick up the pieces.”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:32:35pm

re: #77 sizzzzlerz

Cynics. That was the reformed, rationalized, systematized procurement process circa 1999. (Fur reel.)

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:41:59pm

@nothingsmonstrd.bsky.social

Missionary Being Eaten by a Jaguar — Noé León, 1967

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:47:11pm

re: #78 Romantic Heretic

My favourite story about ‘mil-spec’ and the ridiculous requirements it enforces concerned the coffee maker on the P-3 Orion anti-sub aircraft. It was designed to take something like 1,000 G of impact.

So, in the words of one wag, “If it crashes there will be hot coffee waiting for the people who come to pick up the pieces.”

that’s the joke around here
sure, a big hurricane will knock our house down
but the impact windows will remain in place hanging in space by cartoon physics.

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jaunte  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:47:51pm

@joshuajfriedman.com

NEW: Judge Merchan grants Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg’s motion to protect the identities of jurors in the Trump hush-money case, though attorneys on both sides will get the info. Merchan finds that Trump “has an extensive history of publicly and repeatedly attacking trial jurors and grand jurors.”

He’s going to attack the jurors.

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aatharuv  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:50:23pm

re: #82 jaunte

@joshuajfriedman.com

He’s going to attack the jurors.

And if the attorney leaks it to Trump, the attorney is soon going to need an attorney for a New York state offense.

MAGA - My Attorneys Get Attorneys

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:52:45pm

re: #59 gocart mozart

I hold by my thesis:

- The audience for this is people who believe in some form they are owed everything due to their status, the only reason they have not been paid is theft. Restoration of the natural and just order to them requires not just the material debt owed but constant punishment of the natural inferiors that asserted their equality of dignity.

Not that Trump will actually provide any of this; fascists are thieves first, give them redistributive power and they’ll share it between their failsons and their drinking buddies. But during the bezzle the fascists have to create and immolate as many scapegoats as are available…you have to give the volk it’s catharsis…so everyone is once again a “Communist.”

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ckkatz  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:53:15pm

re: #65 Dangerman

Don’t forget the philatelists, sexagenarians and people who masticate in public.

I’ll go back on mute now.

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Jay C  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:53:54pm

Word-game stuff:

Good news: aced the Spelling Bee and Connections today:
Connections
Puzzle #270
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟦🟦🟦🟦

Bad news: curdled the Wordle:

Wordle 992 X/6

⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
⬜🟩🟨⬜⬜
🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟩⬜🟨⬜
⬜🟩⬜⬜🟩
🟨🟩⬜⬜🟩

Well, tomorrow is another day, Scarlett: see you then….

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darthstar  Mar 7, 2024 • 1:54:08pm

I want to play the CHUNK wordle.

Mastodon

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:00:28pm

re: #82 jaunte

@joshuajfriedman.com

He’s going to attack the jurors.

when the next trial heats up exactly
the jurors, DA, the judge and his personnel

and as i’ve been saying, then engoron and his circle, like magic will be yesterdays news.

curious how that works

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:01:12pm

re: #83 aatharuv

And if the attorney leaks it to Trump, the attorney is soon going to need an attorney for a New York state offense.

MAGA - My Attorneys Get Attorneys

i am sure his attorney’s attorneys have attorneys too

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:03:20pm

re: #84 The Ghost of a Flea

I hold by my thesis:

- The audience for this is people who believe in some form they are owed everything due to their status, the only reason they have not been paid is theft*. Restoration of the natural and just order to them requires not just the material debt owed but constant punishment of the natural inferiors that asserted their equality of dignity.

Not that Trump will actually provide any of this; fascists are thieves first, give them redistributive power and they’ll share it between their failsons and their drinking buddies. But during the bezzle the fascists have to create and immolate as many scapegoats as are available…you have to give the volk it’s catharsis…so everyone is once again a “Communist.”

*and they are ‘settling’ on being comfortable that at least the rich are getting their tax deductions

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:04:21pm

re: #85 ckkatz

Don’t forget the philatelists, sexagenarians and people who masticate in public.

I’ll go back on mute now.

did harvey korman mention them too? i forget //

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:08:01pm

re: #89 Dangerman

i am sure his attorney’s attorneys have attorneys too

it’s attorneys all the way down

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:11:03pm

re: #59 gocart mozart

Kinda hoping he bluescreens during his rebuttal. He’s been benefitting from a hazy memory and/or general disbelief that he would be back. It would be great if in one of the first moments that general election voters realized that Jason Voorhees is back would also coincide with his brain breaking in front of all of them.

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aatharuv  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:12:31pm

re: #92 KGxvi

it’s attorneys all the way down

I don’t think we have to go through an infinite set of attorneys this time.

Donnie cannot wave the promise of a pardon to a corrupt attorney over state charges. Even the least competent attorney would know this, right?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:13:17pm

re: #94 aatharuv

I don’t think we have to go through an infinite set of attorneys this time.

Donnie cannot wave the promise of a pardon to a corrupt attorney over state charges. Even the least competent attorney would know this, right?

At this point any competent attorney wouldn’t touch Trump’s cases.

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aatharuv  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:14:27pm

re: #95 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

At this point any competent attorney wouldn’t touch Trump’s cases.

I’m sure there’s someone out there who will say, “give me a check for 5 million dollars and after it clears, I’ll help you out.”

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:14:30pm

re: #92 KGxvi

it’s attorneys all the way down

originally, his attorneys thought they could work with him.
they learned ettd.

the next batch of attorneys got their own attorneys first.
they figured that would cover it.
now they’re learning that ettd.

the next batch will be attorneys for attorneys of attorneys

and as you say, then it’ll go all the way down

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:15:34pm

re: #94 aatharuv

I don’t think we have to go through an infinite set of attorneys this time.

Donnie cannot wave the promise of a pardon to a corrupt attorney over state charges. Even the least competent attorney would know this, right?

oh, honey….

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:16:56pm

No lawyers under there.

Mastodon

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GlutenFreeJesus  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:16:56pm

If Boebert lashes out tonight, I really hope Joe asks her if she’s seen any good musicals lately.

If it’s Margie, I’d ask where she was the night of January 5th, 2021.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:19:11pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

Dust mop cat.

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aatharuv  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:19:15pm

re: #98 Dangerman

oh, honey….

Okay, there’s the person who got last place on the bar exam because due to sheer dumb luck they got all the multiple choice questions correct, and then got a position as an assistant in-house counsel in their dad’s business because there’s a real in house counsel who does all the work.

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Scottish Dragon  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:20:03pm

re: #61 Belafon

“the Biden Admin is all communists, marxists, fascists, socialists, seamstrists, bakerists, wafflists, barberists, ranchists, potatoists, frutists, zoologists, chemists, children-doctorists, …”

And the Lord did grin, And the people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large chu…

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wrenchwench  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:20:39pm

re: #101 PhillyPretzel ✅

Dust mop cat.

That black chin looks like he caught something.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:23:47pm

re: #104 wrenchwench

Yes. But the cat is cute even with the spider web.

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:29:29pm

The car restorer I go by regularly seems to be starting with a bit less than usual this time… 😱🤣

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:29:47pm

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:29:58pm

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:30:11pm

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William Lewis  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:30:22pm

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KGxvi  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:30:59pm

re: #94 aatharuv

I don’t think we have to go through an infinite set of attorneys this time.

Donnie cannot wave the promise of a pardon to a corrupt attorney over state charges. Even the least competent attorney would know this, right?

in my experience there is always an attorney out there willing to believe:

a. they will actually be the one to get paid
b. they have some legal argument that will win
c. it’s worth it to clout chase regardless of a and b

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sizzzzlerz  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:32:47pm

re: #95 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

At this point any competent attorney wouldn’t touch Trump’s cases.

Wait! Do you mean that, up till now, his attorneys have been competent?

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Dangerman  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:35:16pm

‘reasonable’, ‘moderate’ R my ass
if he wont say it, he won’t do it

Former Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) declined to say whether he would vote to protect in-vitro fertilization or codify Roe v. Wade into federal law if Maryland voters send him to the Senate in November, NBC News reports.

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Nojay UK  Mar 7, 2024 • 2:40:28pm

re: #78 Romantic Heretic

My favourite story about ‘mil-spec’ and the ridiculous requirements it enforces concerned the coffee maker on the P-3 Orion anti-sub aircraft. It was designed to take something like 1,000 G of impact.

More importantly the coffee maker is specced to not destroy the aircraft’s electrical system if the internals fail in some way. It is designed to not catch fire regardless of what happens to it, up to and including penetrating shrapnel from an anti-aircraft missile. If there was a fire onboard the materials it was made from must not emit toxic fumes etc. etc.

That’s the design spec. The production run is maybe a hundred units, the sales of which have to amortise all the design effort and tooling and manufacture. The manufacturers have to promise to support the coffee makers for twenty years and more keeping spare parts in stock in airbases everywhere on the planet a P-3 Orion might operate from plus maintaining a repair centre with a rapid turnaround in case the coffee maker can’t be repaired on base.

Making it survive a one thousand gee impact is trivial by comparison. Given what an E-1 airman can do to a crated jet engine with a forklift I’m surprised that the specification is generous enough to allow for only ONE thousand gees.


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