The Bob Cesca Podcast: It's Mr. Hankey

The Bob Cesca Podcast: It’s Mr. Hankey

PoliticsApril 2024 • Views: 15,774

Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Mr. Hankey — Bob’s appearance at the That Time We Ate Our Feelings book event in Maryland, April 14. Trump’s Troth Senchul stock is tanking. The social media site reported millions in losses. The Florida Supreme Court ruling on abortion and recreational cannabis is a big deal. Biden sees Florida as winnable. Trump posted bond in his appeal of the civil fraud judgment against him. The Christmas poo who coughed up the money. Judge Merchan expands the gag order against Trump. Why do so many people underestimate Trump? Kristen Welker did it again. Joe Biden is getting under Trump’s skin. With Buzz Burbank, music by Elijah Bone, Kaz, and more!

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 2, 2024 • 2:11:52pm

From downstairs:

re: #75 wrenchwench

I don’t think standing on a stage while Trump speaks makes one guilty of genocide. But it’s worth investigating them, especially those in uniform.

Not guilty of genocide, but supporting someone who favors genocide. After all, are any of those men sharing the stage there because they were forced into that role, as opposed to being a willing participant and supporter of Trump?

rhuarc Apr 2, 2024 • 2:19:20pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

I don’t think standing on a stage while Trump speaks makes one guilty of genocide. But it’s worth investigating them, especially those in uniform.

Why wait until the deaths start? Just nip it in the bud now. We all know it’s headed exactly that way if Trump and his cult even so much as sniff the levers of power in this country again.

GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 2:19:34pm

Where are all the “pro-life” people at now?!

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 2:25:05pm

re: #2 rhuarc

Why wait until the deaths start? Just nip it in the bud now. We all know it’s headed exactly that way if Trump and his cult even so much as sniff the levers of power in this country again.

The deaths started already. ‘Nip it in the bud’ is a bloody business, still.

Hecuba's daughter Apr 2, 2024 • 2:30:26pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

The deaths started already. ‘Nip it in the bud’ is a bloody business, still.

Unfortunately, if you stop it before it fully starts, you will be lambasted and treated as a criminal. If someone went back in time and assassinated Hitler at the beginning of his reign of terror, he would not be considered a hero who stopped evil but a murderer who did not respect the rule of law.

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 2:31:10pm

re: #3 GlutenFreeJesus

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Where are all the “pro-life” people at now?!

That’s OK, some of them might have grown up to be anti-hunger volunteers.

William Lewis Apr 2, 2024 • 2:33:07pm

I got an email from a guitar mag and it was pushing an article about $1000 pickups. I started giggling and was going “F’ no” but then stopped and was like, well, lets be real. If I was even half as serious about my guitar as I am about photography, would I blink an eye at an expensive set of pickups that had a particular sonic output I wanted? Like I went searching for that pre-WWII Zeiss Sonnar lens I’ve been using lately?

All of a sudden it didn’t seem so silly to me anymore, just a different set of priorities.

Hmm. I should go practice that simple g c d 12-bar blues from my last lesson…

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 2:34:19pm

Biden is on Mastodon

ohai.social

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 2:36:14pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

The deaths started already. ‘Nip it in the bud’ is a bloody business, still.

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly. And then he deliberately spread quack medical theories because he couldn’t stand being shown up by real experts.

Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, possibly millions. At the very least it was malicious criminal negligence, but I’ll always consider him a mass murderer on a gigantic scale.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 2:39:40pm

and Stonekettle has returned to Mastodon

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 2:40:31pm

re: #9 Charles

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly. and then he deliberately spread quack medical theories because he couldn’t stand being shown up by real experts.

Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, possibly millions. At the very least it was malicious criminal negligence, but I’ll always consider him a mass murderer on a gigantic scale.

That’s the biggie. Plus: the increase in maternal mortality, deaths of migrants, and his unprovable contribution to the increasing suicide rate.

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 2:41:29pm

re: #8 Backwoods Sleuth

Biden is on Mastodon

ohai.social

Followed and boosted.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 2:44:44pm

re: #1 Hecuba’s daughter

From downstairs:

Not guilty of genocide, but supporting someone who favors genocide. After all, are any of those men sharing the stage there because they were forced into that role, as opposed to being a willing participant and supporter of Trump?

Mastodon

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 2:44:57pm

re: #8 Backwoods Sleuth

Biden is on Mastodon

ohai.social

Actually, he’s on Threads. They have a very limited ActivityPub federation system for a selected audience. So you can follow him and see his posts on Threads that way.

Captain Magic Apr 2, 2024 • 2:47:18pm

From Yoko Kanno, A giant among composers for anime…

Escaflowne Original Sound Track - Take my hands

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 2:47:27pm

President Biden is now posting into the fediverse - The Verge

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 2:49:00pm

Mastodon

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 2:49:24pm

And there are more than a few Mastodon servers that are blocking Threads, by the way.

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 2:51:03pm

re: #17 Backwoods Sleuth

Prosecutors already replied (via Joshua Friedman on Bluesky)…

KGxvi Apr 2, 2024 • 2:51:54pm

re: #9 Charles

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly. And then he deliberately spread quack medical theories because he couldn’t stand being shown up by real experts.

Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, possibly millions. At the very least it was malicious criminal negligence, but I’ll always consider him a mass murderer on a gigantic scale.

for his supporters, it’s tribalism - and that’s a hell of a drug. for everyone else, it’s been memory holed as a mass trauma response.

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 2:52:20pm

re: #1 Hecuba’s daughter

From downstairs:

Not guilty of genocide, but supporting someone who favors genocide. After all, are any of those men sharing the stage there because they were forced into that role, as opposed to being a willing participant and supporter of Trump?

None of them walked away.

Names and agencies.

Rightwingconspirator Apr 2, 2024 • 2:53:48pm

re: #9 Charles

And the carnage landed mostly in Republican states. Governors dumb enough to accept the bullshit

Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 3:02:33pm

David Hancock, who had acted as spokesman for Killer Kyle Rittenhouse and the Rittenhouse family comes clean about who Killer Kyle really is.

crooksandliars.com

sickening

sizzzzlerz Apr 2, 2024 • 3:03:12pm

re: #7 William Lewis

I got an email from a guitar mag and it was pushing an article about $1000 pickups. I started giggling and was going “F’ no” but then stopped and was like, well, lets be real. If I was even half as serious about my guitar as I am about photography, would I blink an eye at an expensive set of pickups that had a particular sonic output I wanted? Like I went searching for that pre-WWII Zeiss Sonnar lens I’ve been using lately?

All of a sudden it didn’t seem so silly to me anymore, just a different set of priorities.

Hmm. I should go practice that simple g c d 12-bar blues from my last lesson…

Nothing new to see here. Vendors have dangled expensive doodads in front of the eyes of the masses forever hoping to get a few bites from those who believe the price of something automatically correlates to its quality and it is that perceived quality that makes a mediocre user a master. All without having to actually master the craft. Sports gear, audio gear, photographic gear, if it’s shiny and expensive, it’s all you need to take your place among the gods. If you got the dough, knock yourself out. If it means deferring baby’s new shoes, not so much.

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 3:03:50pm

re: #9 Charles

He and his ilk also attacked Fauci numerous times (and continue to do so).

Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 3:04:50pm

re: #19 Charles

I believe that letter is legalese for: “Fuck off, fat man.”

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 3:06:07pm

The Trump quote in text, from the Detroit News (which buried the statements in the 10th paragraph):

At one point, he defended his past description of migrants who commit violent crimes as “animals.”

“Democrats say, ‘Please, don’t call them animals. They’re humans.’ I say no, they’re not humans,” Trump said. “They’re not humans. They’re animals.”

“Nancy Pelosi told me that,” Trump added, referencing the California congresswoman and former House speaker. “She said, ‘Please don’t use the word animals when you’re talking about these people.’ I said, ‘I’ll use the word animal because that’s what they are.’”

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 3:08:49pm

“They’re not humans.”

Doesn’t get any clearer than that.

Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2024 • 3:09:29pm

re: #13 Backwoods Sleuth

Seeing these law-enforcement officials stand behind a guy who led the Capitol attack, then praised the attackers, is actually chilling.

I was thinking the exact same thing when I saw the video clips…..those scumbag jackboots standing tall and proud behind their Dear Leader as they grin ear to ear like a 12 year old seeing the Beatles for the first time.

EPR-radar Apr 2, 2024 • 3:14:31pm

re: #22 Rightwingconspirator

And the carnage landed mostly in Republican states. Governors dumb enough to accept the bullshit

On the other hand, drinking bleach and shining a flashlight up one’s ass is the most detailed GOP health care plan yet.

EPR-radar Apr 2, 2024 • 3:15:56pm

re: #27 Decatur Deb

People should not be called animals. Even Trump is not an animal (he’s just the lowest presently known form of human being).

Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2024 • 3:16:37pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon ✅

David Hancock, who had acted as spokesman for Killer Kyle Rittenhouse and the Rittenhouse family comes clean about who Killer Kyle really is.

crooksandliars.com

sickening

WTF. He actually failed to make the minimum requirement on the ASVAB!? I served with a lot of people with the IQ of a doorknob, and they somehow managed to meet the minimum requirement. I had one guy in boot who didn’t know how to wipe his own ass properly (true story). If this story is true about Kkkiller Kkkyle, he has zero business owning a firearm, driving a car, owning a pet, or allowed to be in public without adult supervision. WTFx2

Mike Lamb Apr 2, 2024 • 3:20:32pm

re: #9 Charles

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly. And then he deliberately spread quack medical theories because he couldn’t stand being shown up by real experts.

Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, possibly millions. At the very least it was malicious criminal negligence, but I’ll always consider him a mass murderer on a gigantic scale.

All he had to do was put on a fucking mask. That one decision changed the pandemic from a health emergency into a political debate.

jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 3:24:27pm

re: #33 Mike Lamb

And smear his makeup?

Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 3:25:07pm

re: #32 Dr. Matt

Dr Matt—I only posted the Crooks & Liars link so people would actually read it and pick their jaw up off the floor after realized what a con job Republicans pulled off with that punk. And he is still held up as a model young Nazi, er, Conservative.

It’s fucking sickening.

jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 3:25:19pm

Psychopathic vanity.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 3:25:51pm

Mastodon

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 3:34:01pm

By Khalil Bendib

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 3:35:30pm

Mastodon

Yeah Sure WhatEVs Apr 2, 2024 • 3:37:56pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon ✅

David Hancock, who had acted as spokesman for Killer Kyle Rittenhouse and the Rittenhouse family comes clean about who Killer Kyle really is.

crooksandliars.com

sickening

Is just like to say FUCK SO THESE WEBSITES THAT AUTO RELOAD EVERY MINUTE! I couldn’t even read that article because the page reloaded over and over again.

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 3:40:28pm

re: #39 Backwoods Sleuth

And I hope the FTC wins the case. Prices are bad enough.

jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 3:41:32pm

The fines aren’t big enough to work.

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 3:43:12pm

re: #39 Backwoods Sleuth

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From a few days ago:

re: #125 wrenchwench

The union I belong to is a little weird. They are in favor of the Kroger buy out of Albertsons. They like the planned sell-off of many northwest stores to a different company.

Another weird thing they did was gather enough signatures to have a recall election on a state rep. The rep was supported by a lot of other unions, and won the recall election with more than 90% of the vote.

Last time I was a member, the local rep came and introduced himself right away. This time, I’ve not seen her. And we no longer have a shop steward, that I know of. (The old rep was from my store originally, so not a fair comparison.)

There’s a local meeting in a couple weeks. I plan to go to it.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 3:43:33pm

Mastodon

jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 3:44:55pm

re: #39 Backwoods Sleuth

“Americans are spending the biggest share of their income on food in 3 decades”
cbsnews.com

Dangerman Apr 2, 2024 • 3:48:27pm

re: #9 Charles

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly. And then he deliberately spread quack medical theories because he couldn’t stand being shown up by real experts.

Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths, possibly millions. At the very least it was malicious criminal negligence, but I’ll always consider him a mass murderer on a gigantic scale.

While yes tfg was primarily responsible, and is the face of the response.

don’t forget he had a lot of help

GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 3:57:02pm

Click to Reveal

Some of you may remember I lost my 11 yo German Shepherd back in early October. I told myself I needed a long break from that kind of responsibility. As often happens, circumstances can change your plans. Pony Boy’s circumstances were very similar to Bear’s (both their owners passed away unexpectedly) and he ended up in a shelter, and soon after, a foster. I had a chance to meet him Easter Day as his foster went out of town for the holiday and the shelter took him in for a few days. That’s all it took. He’s coming home tomorrow evening. :)

wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 3:57:07pm

re: #46 Dangerman

While yes tfg was primarily responsible, and is the face of the response.

don’t forget he had a lot of help

We need to work on the pre-existing condition. Science education needs to start earlier and be mandatory, including in private schools.

Varek Raith Apr 2, 2024 • 3:58:14pm

Hello. How go the things?

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 3:58:49pm

re: #49 Varek Raith

Hello stranger. How are you?

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:02:26pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

A PIBBLE!!!

ADORABLE!!!

hoping you both have a long, satisfying, and happy partnership.

GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 4:06:31pm

re: #51 Backwoods Sleuth

A PIBBLE!!!

ADORABLE!!!

hoping you both have a long, satisfying, and happy partnership.

Nobody knows what else he’s mixed with. Think I’ll do a DNA test eventually. I’m so curious too. This is the first mixed breed I’ve ever had. 😎

steve_davis Apr 2, 2024 • 4:07:26pm

re: #7 William Lewis

I got an email from a guitar mag and it was pushing an article about $1000 pickups. I started giggling and was going “F’ no” but then stopped and was like, well, lets be real. If I was even half as serious about my guitar as I am about photography, would I blink an eye at an expensive set of pickups that had a particular sonic output I wanted? Like I went searching for that pre-WWII Zeiss Sonnar lens I’ve been using lately?

All of a sudden it didn’t seem so silly to me anymore, just a different set of priorities.

Hmm. I should go practice that simple g c d 12-bar blues from my last lesson…

remember, almost everything you ever heard from Jimmy Page in Led Zeppelin was done on a telecaster in studio. Almost everything you ever heard from Jeff Beck before the mid 70’s was on a Les Paul. Many of Clapton’s “classic strat woman tone” music was actually done on either a Gibson firebird or, when he was in Blind Faith, on a tellie. Don’t go down my road of buying expensive gear at the expense of just practicing your ass off. I mean, okay, it is true that working my way up to the ‘61 Strat (reproduction, not original!) was worth it, but there, we’re talking about several orders of magnitude better playability and better pickup response than the Squier line.

nines09 Apr 2, 2024 • 4:10:55pm

This oldie came around today here in the land of blooming algae, fat robins and drowned worms…

1981

Rough Trade - High School Confidential (HQ Remastered Audio)

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:11:21pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Nobody knows what else he’s mixed with. Think I’ll do a DNA test eventually. I’m so curious too. This is the first mixed breed I’ve ever had. 😎

Almost all of him (head, chest, body) looks to me like a Pibble. But those dainty feet…

Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 4:13:39pm

An all-time great.

Here to Stay

GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 4:13:41pm

re: #55 Backwoods Sleuth

I know. His feet. 😂

He’s over 90lbs too. And SOLID.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:17:37pm

So, MrsCranky has inspired me (kicked me in the metaphoric butt) to get back into quilting. Got a few projects going, but this one I’m inordinately pleased with, so far:

Attic Windows design with night time star scenes. Blocks are stuck onto a quilt wall for easy rearranging, so end result will most likely be a bit different.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:19:17pm

re: #57 GlutenFreeJesus

I know. His feet. 😂

He’s over 90lbs too. And SOLID.

It’s a Pibble…no doubt about it.

Looks like total sweetheart, too.

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 4:20:12pm

re: #58 Backwoods Sleuth

That looks very nice.

Varek Raith Apr 2, 2024 • 4:20:13pm

re: #50 PhillyPretzel ✅

Hello stranger. How are you?

Allergies. Otherwise, good.

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 4:21:15pm

re: #61 Varek Raith

Allergies here too. And I am holding up.

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 4:21:51pm

re: #58 Backwoods Sleuth

So, MrsCranky has inspired me (kicked me in the metaphoric butt) to get back into quilting. Got a few projects going, but this one I’m inordinately pleased with, so far:

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Attic Windows design with night time star scenes. Blocks are stuck onto a quilt wall for easy rearranging, so end result will most likely be a bit different.

The pathway to my monitor messed it up a bit. Some star trails looked like expanded metal floor plating. Seemed you were going for Industrial Brutalism.

The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 2, 2024 • 4:21:59pm

If people invade my home, I’LL be deported?!!! 😳😳😳 https://t.co/5LzR5n2qjA

— Diane N Sevenay (parody) (@DianeSevenay) April 2, 2024

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:22:35pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

The pathway to my monitor messed it up a bit. Some star trails looked like expanded metal floor plating. Seemed you were going for Industrial Brutalism.

Backwoods Brutalism…

KGxvi Apr 2, 2024 • 4:22:36pm

re: #52 GlutenFreeJesus

Nobody knows what else he’s mixed with. Think I’ll do a DNA test eventually. I’m so curious too. This is the first mixed breed I’ve ever had. 😎

pretty sure that’s a Norwegian Couch Hippo, not to be confused with their North American cousins

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 4:23:00pm

re: #64 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

Dang. DT is trying to have my dust bunnies deported. /

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:23:25pm

re: #65 Backwoods Sleuth

Backwoods Brutalism…

I will wrestle that quilt into comfy submission…

KGxvi Apr 2, 2024 • 4:23:49pm

re: #64 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

honestly, at this point, if he’s elected again, I’m fine with being deported… do we need to submit top three destinations?

The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 2, 2024 • 4:24:24pm

Trump tells a crowd of his supporters: I want to see your voting booths pic.twitter.com/Jol9ly4DXP

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 2, 2024

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 4:25:52pm

re: #69 KGxvi

honestly, at this point, if he’s elected again, I’m fine with being deported… do we need to submit top three destinations?

Valhalla
Masada
Sheol

KGxvi Apr 2, 2024 • 4:27:22pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Valhalla
Masada
Sheol

I was thinking more along the lines of:

Marseille
The Basque Country
Phuket

Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 4:28:24pm

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 4:30:10pm

re: #72 KGxvi

My people were here before that pimp’s pimp grandfather.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:32:32pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

My people were here before that pimp’s pimp grandfather.

As were many of mine.
And mine all served in the US military.

Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 4:33:25pm

re: #75 Backwoods Sleuth

As were many of mine.
And mine all served in the US military.

IIRC, ours served together in the Invasion of Canada.

Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 4:33:26pm

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:34:53pm

threads.net

ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 4:37:31pm

Warikoo Xitter post

Cited article:
WoodTv:Family of woman found dead on highway angered by Trump’s speech

Not sure what a WoodTv is, but here is the story from Fox17.
‘He did not’: Garcia family says Trump did not speak with them about Ruby’s death

RAND RAPIDS, Mich. — The sister of Ruby Garcia says former President Donald Trump did not speak with her family about the 25-year-old’s death.

*snip*

After Trump’s remarks, FOX 17 contacted Garcia’s sister, Mavi, to verify their family spoke with the former president. She disputed his statement.

“No, he did not speak with us,” Mavi said in a text message.

Garcia declined to comment further about Trump’s visit.

Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 4:39:57pm

Mastodon

ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 4:40:12pm

re: #78 Backwoods Sleuth

Hah!

Thanks for posting!

StoneKettle is from a Michigan ‘mitten’ farm family.

The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 4:40:56pm

Richard Dawkins says Christianity is “fundamentally decent,” but Islam “is not”

That answer isn’t out of character for Dawkins, who has been saying this sort of thing for decades. (That article is from 2007!) It’s not even unusual! He has a soft spot for churches and religious music. I suspect plenty of former Christians agree with him.

Still, pay attention to how he carves out space for Christianity in a cultural sense, because that’s where he takes a bizarre turn. I don’t know if I’m picking up on it now because of what’s happening in the U.S. or the fact that my views on Dawkins have shifted ever since he decided go down the anti-transgender rabbit hole, but his comments just rub me the wrong way.

After all, what is Christian Nationalism but another way to force “cultural” Christianity (as practiced by one dominant group of conservatives) on everyone else without any real regard for Jesus or God? By suggesting that cultural Christianity is okay and that the U.K. is a “Christian country in that sense,” it’s giving unearned credibility to the misguided belief that the U.S., too, is built on a foundation of Christianity, therefore our laws should reflect that. In America, it’s never really about God’s Will so much as political desire. And there are always Bible verses to back up your goals.

To belabor a point…what Dawkins is doing isn’t new not just on the scale of the War on Terror, but on the larger scale of European nations wielding “religion” in their right hand and “reason” in their left as they overran the world.

This was always going to happen, because like other Nu Atheists Dawkins has consistently refused to acknowledge that there was a point in the past where his “culture” were the people using violence and terror to achieve their objectives, instead viewing world history through the lens of a boys’ magazine in which the white freebooters are always justified and bring civilization.

Like many assholes before him, he’s permanently in the shallow end of the analytic pool, arguing a distinction without a material difference: the Enlightenment and secularism was immediately appropriated to justify the same kind of violence and redistribution justified through faith.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:41:01pm

re: #79 ckkatz

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Not sure what a woodTv is, but here is the story from Fox17.

WOOD channel 8 TV in Grand Rapids

darthstar Apr 2, 2024 • 4:42:10pm

re: #8 Backwoods Sleuth

Biden is on Mastodon

ohai.social

Redirects to Threads.

darthstar Apr 2, 2024 • 4:43:30pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Well, we know who Andy Biggs is inviting to the SOTU next year.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 2, 2024 • 4:44:01pm

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After years of trying, the U.S. government may finally mandate safer table saws

The federal Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) appears poised to mandate a SawStop-type safety brake on all new table saws sold in the United States. The move would follow years of failed efforts and false starts by the agency to impose such a standard.

Manufacturers have consistently fought a new rule, saying it would raise the price of table saws for consumers. Safety advocates liken it to air bags in cars and argue that the benefits outweigh the costs.

Over the years, Republicans on the commission have sided with the power tool industry in opposing further regulations. But with new Biden administration appointees, proponents on the commission appear to have a majority. In October, the CPSC voted to move forward on the mandate, which is expected to get approval later this year.

“We’ve got a [proposed] rule that is designed to prevent tens of thousands of medically treated table saw injuries per year,” says CPSC Commissioner Richard Trumka Jr. “That’s something that I very much support.”

npr.org

darthstar Apr 2, 2024 • 4:46:18pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

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Congratulations!

ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 4:46:48pm

re: #83 Backwoods Sleuth

WOOD channel 8 TV in Grand Rapids

Thanks!

Social Media is such a “Wild Frontier” right now, with so many hidden agendas, deceptions and dishonesties, I try to be careful of stepping into too many ‘steaming’ piles of… mis-information.

I probably am not always successful in avoiding them. But I am trying to do due diligence.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:48:06pm

Mastodon

Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 4:52:24pm

re: #89 Backwoods Sleuth

I’m trying to figure out Netanyahu’s end game. Eradicating HAMAS is a worthy goal. That doesn’t appear to be what he’s doing though. Or maybe I’m missing something.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 2, 2024 • 4:54:50pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

I’m trying to figure out Netanyahu’s end game. Eradicating HAMAS is a worthy goal. That doesn’t appear to be what he’s doing though. Or maybe I’m missing something.

A sort of perpetual war/emergency keeps him in power, doesn’t it?

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 4:55:19pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

My personal view is he is going for the Carthage Solution.

darthstar Apr 2, 2024 • 4:55:34pm

no lloro, tu lloras.

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Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 4:55:37pm

re: #89 Backwoods Sleuth

It’s really bad. Netanyahu and his whole far right gang need to go. And if they’re going to keep up this slaughter, the US needs to stop giving them weapons to do it with.

Netanyahu is no friend of the US. He wants to see Trump back in office, and barely bothers to pretend otherwise.

Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 4:55:59pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

IIRC, ours served together in the Invasion of Canada.

Our shining moment!

jeffreyw Apr 2, 2024 • 5:01:55pm

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ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 5:04:37pm

I would be extremely surprised if this was intentional targeting of WCK.

Somebody apparently screwed up what they were targeting. That multiple drones were involved implies that somebody at higher than operator level was involved in this Fuck-up.

My understanding is that the Israeli High Command is extremely serious about it being a very high priority of theirs to figure out what exactly happened and what they need to do to ensure that it will not happen again.

Despite all the movies, tv shows, and propaganda, a battlefield is complete chaos and most participants have very little idea about what is going on right in front of them, let alone, around them.

Throw in a lot of explosions, explosives, bullets and random stuff flying, and this is why war-zones are extremely dangerous. But I expect folks here already knew that.

Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 5:06:46pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

I’m trying to figure out Netanyahu’s end game. Eradicating HAMAS is a worthy goal. That doesn’t appear to be what he’s doing though. Or maybe I’m missing something.

Pop a Nuke over Tehran.
He’d like nothing better.

Good evening all.

mmmirele Apr 2, 2024 • 5:10:09pm

I saw my first Joe Biden ad today. Not sure what the content was, but it had a bid DJT picture, which is why it caught my attention. Then it cut to a “I’m Joe Biden and I approve this message” at the end. It was on a cable channel I’m unfamiliar with that was playing in the command center this morning (along with CNBC). I walked in just before 8:00 PT and there it was. I wish I could have identified the channel, but I was busy busy busy from the time I arrived until I left to drive home at 2 pm. As I was walking out, I was counting down the number of months until the election. It’s seven months.

Yeah, it made me happy to see an ad buy.

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Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 5:10:20pm

re: #97 ckkatz

Agree with everything you said but I still have a sliver of doubt that this was completely accidental.

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 5:11:22pm

re: #97 ckkatz

Throw in a lot of explosions, explosives, bullets and random flying, and this is why war-zones are extremely dangerous. But I expect folks here already knew that.

Some of y’all know better than the rest of us.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 5:11:28pm

re: #98 Dave In Austin

Pop a Nuke over Tehran.
He’d like nothing better.

Good evening all.

Which is why Booby Nincompoopo wants Trump back in the Oval Office so Trump will do his dirty work for him.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 5:12:54pm

Daylight savings time after-dinner dog walk:

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 5:13:12pm

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calochortus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:13:25pm

re: #97 ckkatz

I would be extremely surprised if this was intentional targeting of WCK.

Somebody apparently screwed up what they were targeting. That multiple drones were involved implies that somebody at higher than operator level was involved in this Fuck-up.

My understanding is that the Israeli High Command is extremely serious about it being a very high priority of theirs to figure out what exactly happened and what they need to do to ensure that it will not happen again.

Despite all the movies, tv shows, and propaganda, a battlefield is complete chaos and most participants have very little idea about what is going on right in front of them, let alone, around them.

Throw in a lot of explosions, explosives, bullets and random flying, and this is why war-zones are extremely dangerous. But I expect folks here already knew that.

This must have been a fairly massive level of screw up since I understand WCK and other groups coordinate with the Israeli military so they won’t kill them.

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Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 5:14:04pm

re: #100 Charles

Agree with everything you said but I still have a sliver of doubt that this was completely accidental.

Doesn’t matter. Every day that Netanyahu stays in power lowers Israel another step into the muck. They are free to choose, and they might choose to be pariahs.

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Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 5:14:43pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon ✅

Which is why Booby Nincompoopo wants Trump back in the Oval Office so Trump will do his dirty work for him.

Or just looks the other way. Ya know….. “He can do anything he wants!!”

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Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 5:15:06pm

Senator Cinnamon in Arizona. pic.twitter.com/BLlOhDhPS3

— Biden Honorable - Trump Coward (@Youtalkingtume) April 2, 2024

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calochortus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:16:23pm

re: #108 Dave In Austin

Did Ivanka not look in a mirror before she went out of the house in that dress?

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 5:16:56pm

re: #108 Dave In Austin

A contest in Wisconsin.

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sizzzzlerz Apr 2, 2024 • 5:19:04pm

re: #104 Backwoods Sleuth

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ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 5:21:51pm

re: #105 calochortus

This must have been a fairly massive level of screw up since I understand WCK and other groups coordinate with the Israeli military so they won’t kill them.

You are very correct.

In fact, I understand that WCK had coordinated with their Israeli liaison and had received approval to proceed.

I suspect that one line of inquiry was whether somebody did not get the word, and why. Military commanders worldwide get very peeved when someone ignores their orders.

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Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 5:22:00pm

re: #110 jaunte

A contest in Wisconsin.

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Like butter……

Some Primrose in the garden.

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Belafon Apr 2, 2024 • 5:22:13pm

re: #108 Dave In Austin

She’s missing a big yellow hat and a monkey.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 5:24:33pm

USGS now calculates the Taiwan quake at 7.4

earthquake.usgs.gov

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 5:25:24pm

Tsunami warning issued for Okinawa after strong quake hits near Taiwan
japantimes.co.jp

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 2, 2024 • 5:29:50pm

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ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 5:30:27pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon ✅

Which is why Booby Nincompoopo wants Trump back in the Oval Office so Trump will do his dirty work for him.

Funny you should mention that. There was a NYT article recently about some right-wing Israeli journalists who went to interview tfg at Mar-a-Lago. They were taken aback when they realized that tfg might throw Israel under the bus if Israel was too inconvenient.

NY Times

Last 4 paragraphs of NYT article -

“John R. Bolton, a former national security adviser to Mr. Trump, who has become a sharp critic, said that Mr. Trump’s interview with Israel Hayom “proves the point that I’ve tried to explain to people: that Trump’s support for Israel in the first term is not guaranteed in the second term, because Trump’s positions are made on the basis of what’s good for Donald Trump, not on some coherent theory of national security.”

“What he said in this most recent interview was ambiguous to a certain extent, but it seemed to me to be verging on negative about Israel’s conduct of the war,” Mr. Bolton said in an interview. “And I think there’s more there than meets the eye.”

“What matters to Trump more than anything else is how you look in the press. So forget the justice of it,” he added. “It just looks bad.”

The way Mr. Bolton sees it, when his former boss warns Mr. Netanyahu that his image is failing, “he’s not worried about Israel’s image. He’s worried about his if he has to defend it.”

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calochortus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:30:29pm

re: #113 Dave In Austin

Like butter……

Some Primrose in the garden.

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Those are so pretty…until they take over your entire yard. Or don’t they do that where you are?

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jeffreyw Apr 2, 2024 • 5:32:26pm

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 5:33:54pm

re: #118 ckkatz

Trump’s support for Israel in the first term is not guaranteed in the second term, because anyone who wants Israel to be destroyed understands he could be paid to look the other way. The only question is his price.

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 5:36:02pm

re: #119 calochortus

Those are so pretty…until they take over your entire yard. Or don’t they do that where you are?

I’ve seen two lawns, not near each other, full of crocuses that color.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 2, 2024 • 5:37:59pm

re: #106 Decatur Deb

Doesn’t matter. Every day that Netanyahu stays in power lowers Israel another step into the muck. They are free to choose, and they might choose to be pariahs.

They are free to elect a government but they aren’t free to call elections at random times. Enough people in the ruling coalition have to abandon it for a new election to be called. It doesn’t matter if most citizens object to what their administration is doing now. We don’t have the choice here if we are unhappy with the current administration or members of Congress to throw them out if it’s not time for a scheduled election and neither do they, unless people resign from their government.

When the Mooch spoke at our synagogue, he thought there could be pushback on his position of Trump vs Israel because there are so many Jews who are fervent supporters of Netanyahu and like Trump. He was relieved that was not true with our congregation, especially those who wanted to hear him. His point was that Netanyahu and those Jews supporting Trump are deluded if they think Trump actually cares about Israel — he is totally transactional and has no loyalties to anyone except himself.

I think (but cannot be sure) that the attack on WCK was due to the fog of war or possible misinformation provided to Israeli commanders. We routinely killed innocents during the many conflicts this century, without batting an eye. And few here took us to task over that, since the only deaths that concerned us were American deaths.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 2, 2024 • 5:38:39pm

You could save a few bucks on big letters and still immortalize Trump by changing the name to Dullard International Airport.

— The 𝗘nd 𝗝ustifies the 𝗠emes (@Upsidasium) April 2, 2024

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 5:41:11pm

re: #120 jeffreyw

They DARED to combine the flavor of Bacon in that abomination…BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!

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calochortus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:41:16pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

I’ve seen two lawns, not near each other, full of crocuses that color.

I’m pretty sure those are Mexican Evening Primrose. We had some for a while. Then they decided to take over the front yard and had to be removed (because they don’t look like that all the time.)

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:48:15pm

re: #87 darthstar

Congratulations!

Ty! I’ve been lying to myself these past several months about being ok without a furkid. Glad I snapped out of it.

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TedStriker Apr 2, 2024 • 5:48:26pm

re: #96 jeffreyw

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darthstar Apr 2, 2024 • 5:49:37pm

re: #127 GlutenFreeJesus

Ty! I’ve been lying to myself these past several months about being ok without a furkid. Glad I snapped out of it.

Love is love, and that doggo’s face is full of love.

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Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 5:50:04pm

To the End of the World

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Markm1960 Apr 2, 2024 • 5:50:38pm

re: #64 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 5:50:51pm

A settlement has been reached between the estate of George Carlin and the makers of a podcast who used generative artificial intelligence to impersonate the late standup comic’s voice and style for an unauthorized special.
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The settlement marks what’s believed to be the first resolution to a lawsuit over the misappropriation of a celebrity’s voice or likeness using AI tools. It comes as Hollywood is sounding the alarm over utilization of the tech to exploit the personal brands of actors, musicians and comics, among others, without consent or compensation.
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“…the AI program that created the special ingested five decades of George Carlin’s original stand-up routines, which are owned by the comedian’s estate, as training materials.”
hollywoodreporter.com

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 5:52:44pm

re: #97 ckkatz

I’m sure it was a really unfortunate fuck up, but Netanyahoo being so dismissive of it… “that’s war for you…” really doesn’t fckn help.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 2, 2024 • 5:57:32pm

re: #100 Charles

Agree with everything you said but I still have a sliver of doubt that this was completely accidental.

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
-Grey’s Law

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 5:59:25pm

re: #124 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 6:00:59pm

Yes, Count Floyd Has Left The Building…

Count Floyd- 04 Count Floyd Is Back

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ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 6:02:03pm

re: #123 Hecuba’s daughter

I think (but cannot be sure) that the attack on WCK was due to the fog of war or possible misinformation provided to Israeli commanders. We routinely killed innocents during the many conflicts this century, without batting an eye. And few here took us to task over that, since the only deaths that concerned us were American deaths.

There is a famous video of the March 6, 1945 Battle for Cologne Cathedral street fighting. It is famous because the US finally sent in one of it’s brand new Pershing tanks to see how it did in combat. Some standard US Sherman tanks had attempted to take out a German Panther. And gotten destroyed. The Pershing went in and killed the Panther.

However, that same US cameraman also filmed another scene. In the middle of a gunfight, a civilian car tore through the middle of the fire zone. What appears to be a tank machine gun destroyed it, killed the man in the car and wounded the woman.

US soldiers rescued the wounded woman and gave her first aid for her gunshot wounds.

Some researchers were able to identify the woman and went searching for her. They never found her, but they did find her sister. Who said that her sister had tried to escape the fighting by fleeing with her boss. She had disappeared during the fighting. And the sister had been trying to figure out what had happened to her.

In the end, they think that one of the US tanks had run over her as they were attacked by a German anti-tank unit.

Battle of Cologne 1945 - A young woman between the frontlines - The source

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JC1 Apr 2, 2024 • 6:06:16pm

re: #94 Charles

It’s really bad. Netanyahu and his whole far right gang need to go. And if they’re going to keep up this slaughter, the US needs to stop giving them weapons to do it with.

Netanyahu is no friend of the US. He wants to see Trump back in office, and barely bothers to pretend otherwise.

The details are even worse than it first appears. Hard to believe that this was accidental. This was done on purpose, and heads need to roll.

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JC1 Apr 2, 2024 • 6:07:50pm

re: #97 ckkatz

I would be extremely surprised if this was intentional targeting of WCK.

Somebody apparently screwed up what they were targeting. That multiple drones were involved implies that somebody at higher than operator level was involved in this Fuck-up.

My understanding is that the Israeli High Command is extremely serious about it being a very high priority of theirs to figure out what exactly happened and what they need to do to ensure that it will not happen again.

Despite all the movies, tv shows, and propaganda, a battlefield is complete chaos and most participants have very little idea about what is going on right in front of them, let alone, around them.

Throw in a lot of explosions, explosives, bullets and random stuff flying, and this is why war-zones are extremely dangerous. But I expect folks here already knew that.

They had to have known that it was the kitchen convoy. Maybe someone assumed that there were terrorists hiding in the vehicles or were being helped. No way you miss the giant placard on the roof and blast the cars 3 times.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips Apr 2, 2024 • 6:10:34pm

Charlie Kirk pic.twitter.com/URy9gJninY

— 𝙒𝘽🦍𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀 (@FormerDirtDart) April 3, 2024

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William Lewis Apr 2, 2024 • 6:10:50pm

re: #91 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A sort of perpetual war/emergency keeps him in power, doesn’t it?

More important to him - it keeps him out of a prison cell indefinitely and who cares how many peons, Palestinian or Israeli, it kills?

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 6:12:28pm

Missed opportunity. Shoulda put in “Stay gold, Pony Boy”.

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Romantic Heretic Apr 2, 2024 • 6:12:45pm

re: #92 PhillyPretzel ✅

My personal view is he is going for the Carthage Solution.

And then they’ll settle it.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 6:13:06pm

re: #90 Patricia Kayden

I’m trying to figure out Netanyahu’s end game. Eradicating HAMAS is a worthy goal. That doesn’t appear to be what he’s doing though. Or maybe I’m missing something.

ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant

If you follow what people in his cabinet say, it’s because they view “HAMAS” in a very broad definition…except for the ones that just talk about how Palestinians need to not exist and invoke the fate of Amalek.

I mean, this is part of a larger pattern of nations “fighting terrorism” by reducing cities to nothing—Russia in Chechnya, Syria against its own people, the KSA in Yemen, the US in Iraq, to say nothing of the eternal drip of drone casualties worldwide—and historically it’s allowed to stand. The rules-based international order was always more of a vibe than a solid instrument of justice, but even when it was working you could use high explosive to turn anything to paste and trigger nothing more than sternly-phrased letters because everybody with a veto wants the option to do their own mass bombings.

In the developed world but especially America there’s this idea that if war is conducted with a performative clinicality that it must be just, and therefore an explosion that isn’t motivated by the kind of individual malice attributed to villains has no implications. It takes a glaring targeting error to catch people’s attention, and that’s in an age of constant video footage. Back in the day you could merc pretty much anything from the air and get away with it.

“Technically, this isn’t a retaliatory strike” is the watchword of the post-WW2 strategist.

[All ironic, since the same people will wax on about the Blitz spirit and/or the horror of V rockets. WW2 taught the victors how to do casuistry about their cruelty, not how to not be cruel, which is why Great Britain burned all it’s records on atrocities in Kenya and America started outsourcing its black site torture to Paraguay and Egypt.]

Historically, the more you hurt civilians the more the insurgency grows, because as the Pathans say “me again my brother, my brother and I against our cousins, but all of us together against outsiders.” But the way I’d put it is: violent motherfuckers on the ground, in the community are understandable if deplorable; motherfuckers raining shrapnel and fire from the sky are basically Smaug the Dragon.

Civilized countries with air forces, though, have assured themselves that at some point the terror will make the terrorized understand there is no alternative…literal supervillain logic…and clearly there’s a long history of that working, which is why the Spanish Empire is still intact and Vietnam is the 51st US state.

re: #100 Charles

Agree with everything you said but I still have a sliver of doubt that this was completely accidental.

Does intentionality matter at this point?

Again, I point to the larger picture of “forgiveness, not permission” present in using of air assets as part of counterterrorism: it is now standard war doctrine to take the shot on minimal pretext…a justification process that is built to create permanent uncertainty about what was intended by pointing to “intelligence” or, more recently “AI analysis.” Trust the black box; trust the war shamans telling us what the black box’s outputs means. Especially pay no attention to the people making commands decisions who say aloud that they’re doing retaliatory violence.

Remember all that “this is a crusade” shit post-9/11? Fucking officers getting caught out talking up civilization warfare and such? That’s the context for every time a civilian blows up. Indeed, we can just look at bombing and droning in Yemen…or that attack that vaporized a van full of kids while we were withdrawing from Kabul…and see a pattern in which the base assumption of strikes is that civilian losses are acceptable and within the fog of war you take the shot in no small part because even when you fail entirely there’s an entire propaganda system that will explain away the deaths as sad but necessary.

We’re doing Passive Cop Verbs for the most sophisticated and expensive military-surveillance system in the world: sorry, an oopsie-doodle with our billion-dollar-death machinery-slash-panopticon happened. This style of warfare doesn’t work—as Stanley McChrystal pointed out, one dead civilians is ten more terrorists in the making—yet militaries with all these toys keep doing it. So what is the actual strategic doctrine?

I don’t think there is one that can pried away from existing counterinsurgent tactics as developed by the Spanish in the way back, with their pioneering “camp that concentrates civilians” strategy that attempt to choke out the logistics of rebels. You bomb to destroy infrastructure usable by atypical combatants with the full knowledge you’re killing a bunch of other people first directly and then through the excess death that comes with no food, no shelter, no water, and general dissolution of society. When the Russians (and their clients) unmake a town, they like savages just declare that everyone hit by artillery was the enemy or aiding and abetting the enemy. As enlightened folk, our alternative is to admit that civilians died, feel bad about it, and then do the same thing again.

It doesn’t matter what’s said, what Israel is doing is consistent with a bunch of other conflicts in which urban environments are taken apart to the point they’re unlivable, and in all those other conflicts the hands holding the Xbox controller seem to be pretty quick to squeeze R2 and merc random kids, journalists, dogs, etc. This isn’t a one-off, it’s a trend: this is modern warfare, up to and including the eupehmism used to talk about humans beings being turned into pulled pork.

There’s always more terrorists; it’s always the definitive strike; it’s always sad that the civilians died but have you considered that anyone can be terrorist*?

*well, state actors can’t be terrorists even if elected officials literally say, “yeah, this is about instilling terror; Toby Keith wrote a song about the fate of Amalek and that’s just how it goes.”

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Charles Apr 2, 2024 • 6:13:33pm

I’ve used the term “that tastes like ass” many times without truly understanding its deeper meaning until I needed to take paxlovid.

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Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 6:16:56pm

re: #119 calochortus

Those are so pretty…until they take over your entire yard. Or don’t they do that where you are?

They do their thing and then they are gone.

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ckkatz Apr 2, 2024 • 6:19:16pm

re: #140 JC1

They had to have known that it was the kitchen convoy. Maybe someone assumed that there were terrorists hiding in the vehicles or were being help9. No way you miss the giant placard on the roof and blast the cars 3 times.

Clearly somebody knew and approved the WCK convoy to be there. Somebody shot at it repeatedly.

I have not seen evidence that they were the same individual or if different individuals , that they were in direct communication and had the exact same knowledge of the situation.

And my mind reading skills are, admittedly, very poor in figuring out motives.

The leadership in Israel had given a commitment to the WCK and to it’s supporting countries and organizations to respect their safety.

The Israeli command liaison had given approval for the WCK convoy to proceed.

Someone shot it up.

While anything is possible in this world, in my _extremely_ humble opinion, I suspect that the problem lays closer to the people who directly shot it up rather than sinister highest level conspiracies.

“Three things cannot long stay hidden: the sun, the moon and the truth.”
-Buddha

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 6:30:51pm

Haha

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Nerdy Fish Apr 2, 2024 • 6:32:04pm

re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus

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Haha

Wait, hold on. Is that for real?

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Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 6:36:10pm

re: #150 Nerdy Fish

Wait, hold on. Is that for real?

finance.yahoo.com

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 6:36:38pm

re: #150 Nerdy Fish

Trump Media filed a lawsuit on March 24 in Florida state court against Andy Litinsky and Wes Moss, two co-founders of Trump Media who were also contestants on Trump’s NBC show “The Apprentice.”
cnn.com

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Nerdy Fish Apr 2, 2024 • 6:37:25pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

re: #152 jaunte

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, wait, he’s serious. Let me laugh harder.

BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 6:38:00pm

For a tv show I’ve never seen, The Apprentice has had way too much influence on the last 10 years.

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Romantic Heretic Apr 2, 2024 • 6:38:21pm

re: #148 ckkatz

I was watching a video about this on YouTube earlier today. All it takes is someone transcribing a ‘two’ rather ‘three’ in an information memo.

Drone operator sees three cars instead of the supposed two. Asks for permission to engage. Officer checks feed, sees three vehicles instead of two, and grants permission.

After that it was making sure they were dead.

The question is whether the error was accidental or deliberate.

Also, night vision equipment may not have the sensitivity to see a logo on the vehicles.

Still, the Israeli military is supposed to be competent. Hitting an NGO like this brings that competency into question.

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 6:38:51pm

Mastodon

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goddamnedfrank Apr 2, 2024 • 6:38:54pm

re: #133 GlutenFreeJesus

I’m sure it was a really unfortunate fuck up, but Netanyahoo being so dismissive of it… “that’s war for you…” really doesn’t fckn help.

We really need to be mindful of the context, that this attack exists within a much larger pattern of indiscriminate use of force that includes the bombing of the Greek Orthodox Church, the shooting of the three shirtless Israeli hostages holding a white flag, and the dropping of approximately twice as much explosive ordnance as Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

This attack was just one more imminently predictable outcome of lax policies that led to similar previous atrocious events.

Calling it an accident at this point ignores all the lessons that should have been learned before now, and presupposes that the decision not to sufficiently address the issue previously wasn’t a deliberate kind of action in and of itself.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 6:41:23pm

re: #157 goddamnedfrank

You are 100% correct.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 6:42:18pm

re: #149 GlutenFreeJesus

This is what RNC donors are buying!

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 6:42:26pm

Israeli Army Sources: Gaza Aid Workers Killed Because ‘IDF Officers on the Ground Do What They Want’

“The army’s killing of seven aid workers in the Gaza Strip on Monday night stemmed from poor discipline among field commanders, not a lack of coordination between the army and aid organizations, army sources said” - From Haaretz.

Fuck. And Bibi is fucked if this turns out to be true. Biden is already pissed and working on Gantz to take control of the government post-Bibi. Bibi’s government could fall over this if the government really has lost such control.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 2, 2024 • 6:45:17pm

re: #160 silverdolphin

All the (credible) sources I’ve seen have been pointing in the same general direction. It wasn’t that the convoy was deliberately targeted as such, but the policy for commanders on the ground amounts to, “Better to ask forgiveness than permission.” I feel like Bibi is counting on the historic goodwill from the US and its allies to keep criticism in check. If Biden’s recent reactions are anything to go by, he’s blown through all that goodwill and then some.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 2, 2024 • 6:47:24pm

re: #157 goddamnedfrank

P.S. How much you wanna bet that the target package that ordered the attack on the WCK team was shit out by that Habsora “Gospel” AI the IDF is using to maximize the number of targets?

Understanding how Israel uses ‘Gospel’ AI system in Gaza bombings • FRANCE 24 English

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 6:47:55pm

re: #157 goddamnedfrank

Also context: all the IDF TikToks of soldiers showing that yeah, this is collective punishment against Palestinians.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 6:53:27pm

re: #160 silverdolphin

We need to cancel those F-15s.

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Dave In Austin Apr 2, 2024 • 7:00:46pm

WARNING: PRAY THIS DOES ATTACK NOT HAPPEN.

If Iran strikes at Israel Directly WITH ballistic missiles be prepared for the War of The Cities™️ 2.0. (Google it: Iran-Iraq war)

Iran will take big losses but this could escalate to a tactical nuclear weapon thrown at on Iranian… https://t.co/Mj3zTYjoTl

— Malcolm Nance (@MalcolmNance) April 2, 2024

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Rightwingconspirator Apr 2, 2024 • 7:01:54pm

re: #157 goddamnedfrank

We really need to be mindful of the context, that this attack exists within a much larger pattern of indiscriminate use of force that includes the bombing of the Greek Orthodox Church, the shooting of the three shirtless Israeli hostages holding a white flag, and the dropping of approximately twice as much explosive ordnance as Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined.

This attack was just one more imminently predictable outcome of lax policies that led to similar previous atrocious events.

Calling it an accident at this point ignores all the lessons that should have been learned before now, and presupposes that the decision not to sufficiently address the issue previously wasn’t a deliberate kind of action in and of itself.

The two worst things to happen in Israel in the last few years are Hamas and Bibi.

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calochortus Apr 2, 2024 • 7:03:45pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

They do their thing and then they are gone.

Leaving dead plant bits behind, IIRC.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 7:04:40pm

re: #161 Nerdy Fish

All the (credible) sources I’ve seen have been pointing in the same general direction. It wasn’t that the convoy was deliberately targeted as such, but the policy for commanders on the ground amounts to, “Better to ask forgiveness than permission.” I feel like Bibi is counting on the historic goodwill from the US and its allies to keep criticism in check. If Biden’s recent reactions are anything to go by, he’s blown through all that goodwill and then some.

Reading between the lines from Biden’s reactions today, he is pissed at the lack of control by the Bibi government here. I expec the will want to see some real results. I think it is very unlikely that Bibi will be allowed into the US to speak to Congress if they invite him.

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 7:05:03pm

Dude, a hot war in the Middle East… idunnoman

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Nerdy Fish Apr 2, 2024 • 7:05:55pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Dude, a hot war in the Middle East… idunnoman

All the Left Behind‘ers are about to cream their pants in joy.

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Belafon Apr 2, 2024 • 7:06:27pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Dude, a hot war in the Middle East… idunnoman

What better way to keep the US funding Israel than to goad Iran into an attack.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 7:08:40pm

Jesusbot relatives are insisting the end times are at hand.

They’re gonna get a very rude awakening when JC pulls a no-show if Israel and Iran have a nuclear exchange…because there is no way that will not escalate

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Rightwingconspirator Apr 2, 2024 • 7:13:37pm

What Bibi somehow ignores is that Gazan deaths hurt Israel’s reputation/credibility/morality far more than Hamas. So the strategic mistake Bibi makes is he hurts Israel with how he runs this war.

It’s incomprehensible to me that he commits this blunder so stubbornly.

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Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 7:13:40pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon ✅

Jesusbot relatives are insisting the end times are at hand.

…

They should sell you a nice used car, cheap.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 7:16:36pm

re: #166 Rightwingconspirator

Netanyahu isn’t an evil wizard.

He’s just the top of a pile of people…shockingly, conservatives that also do a bunch of kleptocracy…who been consistent that they’re going to direct the country exclusively to advance their objectives at the cost of regular Israeli citizens’ safety. The thing Netanyahu and his allies have in common is saying aloud that Israel is for “Real Jews”—their ideological fellow travellers—and that all criticisms and alternate proposals are made by “Not Real Jews.” Everything they’ve done has been consistent with this principle: they are reifying Israel and Jewishness like the BJP is trying to reify India and Hinduness, and that process is going to involve a lot of suffering that’s…acceptable…to build the state they want.

They’re going to have a single state even if that means constant cycles of strike and retaliatory strike in Gaza, and advancing settlements in the West Bank even as they’re opening up conflicts with a bunch of other regional powers, and that single state will be for their ends and their ends exclusively.

Constant existential conflict also means that the population is constantly in trauma or triage, making it harder to make long term plans, making it easier to maintain power. Continuing the cyclic feeding of the US defense blob keeps their power bloc constantly in community with the shittiest people in US politics, while being the world’s source of military-grade spyware draws those same shitty people even closer.

Under these conditions, war is a theoretical net gain, with the wager being that even more blood will create even better conditions for their social and political engineering of the state.

You know…exactly the thing the US forever war achieved: radicalizing a giant chunk of the population, moving an enormous amount of cash into dubious hands, and permanently altering the world-system of politics to create convenient footholds for the worst actors to create a kind of international reactionary front.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 7:21:57pm

Is Bibi expecting us to back him up if he ends up starting a war with Iran?

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Nerdy Fish Apr 2, 2024 • 7:22:44pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Bibi expecting us to back him up if he ends up starting a war with Iran?

I think so, and I think he’s going to find out that “a plague on both your houses” is a very valid political response to that particular problem.

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Decatur Deb Apr 2, 2024 • 7:23:34pm

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

Is Bibi expecting us to back him up if he ends up starting a war with Iran?

At the moment, Congress is too dysfunctional to help anyone, no matter who wants to.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 7:26:11pm

American healthcare is “awesome” part #1572:

Had to dig through a closet tonight to find a couple of extra Spiriva inhalers we had from before MIL passed.

They are going to go to an elderly neighbor/friend whose bullshit insurance is trying to charge them $500 for the medication.

🙄

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CleverToad Apr 2, 2024 • 7:31:35pm

re: #58 Backwoods Sleuth

So, MrsCranky has inspired me (kicked me in the metaphoric butt) to get back into quilting. Got a few projects going, but this one I’m inordinately pleased with, so far:

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Attic Windows design with night time star scenes. Blocks are stuck onto a quilt wall for easy rearranging, so end result will most likely be a bit different.

Oooh, that’s going to be cool

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 7:37:37pm

Israel Created ‘Kill Zones’ in Gaza. Anyone Who Crosses Into Them Is Shot

Okay this is brand new to me.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 7:43:10pm

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 7:43:25pm

re: #181 The Ghost of a Flea

Definitely sounds like a thing Bibi would do.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 7:47:33pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

What Bibi somehow ignores is that Gazan deaths hurt Israel’s reputation/credibility/morality far more than Hamas. So the strategic mistake Bibi makes is he hurts Israel with how he runs this war.

It’s incomprehensible to me that he commits this blunder so stubbornly.

Exactly. He must not be paying attention. Hamas needs to be eliminated but Netanyahu seems to have lost the plot. He’s putting President Biden in a rough place as well.

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 7:51:25pm

Masto posts from @m.ai6yr.org won’t post here, so this is a screenshot:

Here’s the link. It doesn’t work. I can’t get the State of Oregon’s website at all.

My best post ever! /

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Belafon Apr 2, 2024 • 7:52:07pm

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

American healthcare is “awesome” part #1572:

Had to dig through a closet tonight to find a couple of extra Spiriva inhalers we had from before MIL passed.

They are going to go to an elderly neighbor/friend whose bullshit insurance is trying to charge them $500 for the medication.

🙄

I feel ya. I went to have some work done on a tooth and found out that last year my dental insurance decided that they wouldn’t cover an additional $350 on each of two crowns I needed replaced. Each cost me $670 at the time of the work.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 7:54:06pm

re: #186 Belafon

I got a tooth yanked last year instead of getting a root canal.

Why? Extraction was 15% the cost of a root canal even with my decent insurance.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 7:58:10pm

re: #173 Rightwingconspirator

He’s wagging the dog with that Iranian consulate attack.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 8:05:28pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. He must not be paying attention. Hamas needs to be eliminated but Netanyahu seems to have lost the plot. He’s putting President Biden in a rough place as well.

I think he is paying attention. But, like happens so often in hierarchical organizations, epistemic closure has created a situation where he simply is incapable of making the right or wise conclusions. He is like the NASA engineers/managers who okayed the liftoff of the Challenger. They heard enough and held enough information to make a wise decision, But, it did not happen because they all thought alike. New and novel information could not penetrate the epistemic closure.

But as Feynman said “Nature cannot be fooled” and epistemically closed commmunities always fail because of their inability to adapt to a complex world. For the good of the world, Israel needs a new government, one that is capable of making wiser decisions in a complex world. I am hoping that the groundwork Biden has laid wrt the more moderate Gantz, whose 8 members are currently part of Bibi’s government, might result in some real progress. If Bibi refuses to listen to him, he can force new elections.

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Captain Ron Apr 2, 2024 • 8:07:11pm

Lauren Boebert suffers acute blood clot — is now recovering from surgery https://t.co/QcBH23IGwt

— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 3, 2024

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 8:11:23pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

I have nothing nice to say about her so I’m just gonna keep quiet.

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Belafon Apr 2, 2024 • 8:13:09pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

Suddenly, blood is able to flow freely to her brain and she bursts out, “What have I done?!”

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 8:13:56pm

re: #191 Eclectic Cyborg

I have a lot to say about her, she used to be my congresscritter.

I’ll say I hope she recovers from this health scare. She’s younger than me.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 8:14:33pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

May-Thurner Syndrome
upmc.com.

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 8:18:32pm

I’ll be 42 next month.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2024 • 8:20:33pm

re: #190 Captain Ron

She must have shot at it with her GUNS.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 8:22:20pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

I’m no doctor, but you don’t seem to be living the life of someone developing vascular problems.

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sagehen Apr 2, 2024 • 8:25:33pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

Masto posts from @m.ai6yr.org won’t post here, so this is a screenshot:

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Here’s the link. It doesn’t work. I can’t get the State of Oregon’s website at all.

My best post ever! /

When at first glance I saw “chinook” my first thought was helicopters.

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Egregious Philbin Apr 2, 2024 • 8:25:42pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

Shit, I got socks that are 42…

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 8:28:16pm

re: #198 sagehen

When at first glance I saw “chinook” my first thought was helicopters.

Same. Got real confused for a second.

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 8:31:55pm

re: #197 jaunte

Breathing and heart beat … that shit’s there, brother!

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teleskiguy Apr 2, 2024 • 8:32:53pm

… deep breaths …

Are good!

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 2, 2024 • 8:33:54pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. He must not be paying attention. Hamas needs to be eliminated but Netanyahu seems to have lost the plot. He’s putting President Biden in a rough place as well.

When did he have the plot?

Netanyahu is the guy who said it was a good thing HAMAS took over Gaza because they, like he, would never accept a two-state solution. Dude has been acting the same way since Rabin got shot. What he wants isn’t mysterious, and he hasn’t somehow fooled past presidents. He has consistently been tickling the edge of revisionism; he has a distinctive picture of what Israel should be and talks openly about how many Israelis fail to meet his needs. As to what his motives are: he’s keeping himself in power, he’s advancing settlement in the West Bank, and he’s reducing Gaza to a state where it’s unrecoverable for Palestinians…all while advancing militarism and nationalism as critical components of Israeli identity. That’s always been his patch.

He understands exactly what he’s doing—wagering that the US can’t switch geopolitical horses after building up seventy years of cooperation in projecting force across West Asia while doing Operation Ajax and knifing the Kurds in the kidneys, and thus the President he doesn’t like doesn’t have any strong moves, and what damage could be done—like ending the bomb coupons—will be easy to reset because the US’s actual priorities in the region—oil, shipping lanes, selling weapons—trump humanitarian concerns.

You know…exactly what happened with the US and the KSA just a few years ago.

Much like Muhammed bin Salman, Netanyahu is the leader of proxy state with critical importance to American overseas objectives that recognizes that localized power is a lever that can be applied against a superpower. It doesn’t matter what Americans want any more than what Israelis want: the existing dynamic must continue or the American interior will experience more expensive gas and Walmart products, and defense companies will sell less bombs and thus pay for fewer sinecures of ex-officers and politicians.

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sagehen Apr 2, 2024 • 8:41:26pm

hopefully Texas’ next senator:

Rep. Colin Allred – Meet the Voting Rights Lawyer & Dad Running Against Ted Cruz | The Daily Show

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 8:42:06pm

@joshuajfriedman.com

NEW: Trump’s attorneys tell Judge Cannon—correctly!—that it is impossible to craft hypothetical jury instructions for one of her two proposed scenarios because under that scenario, Trump couldn’t be prosecuted.

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 8:45:41pm

re: #198 sagehen

When at first glance I saw “chinook” my first thought was helicopters.

Indigenous names get no respect.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 8:52:37pm

re: #203 The Ghost of a Flea

….

Much like Muhammed bin Salman, Netanyahu is the leader of proxy state with critical importance to American overseas objectives that recognizes that localized power is a lever that can be applied against a superpower. It doesn’t matter what Americans want any more than what Israelis want: the existing dynamic must continue or the American interior will experience more expensive gas and Walmart products, and defense companies will sell less bombs and thus pay for fewer sinecures of ex-officers and politicians.

I think this is one reason why the US (because of Biden) now produces more oil than the Saudis. We are now an oil exporting country. We do not need their oil anymore. Yes, the Saudis still hold some global leverage but less than before.

And the mistake Bibi makes is that there is no separation between him and the state of Israel, falling into the “L’État, c’est moi” trap. I believe that Biden has already set a path forward that could likely see the fall of Netanyahu’s government as it continues to follow the wrong path and, following new elections, a more moderate government, one that might just have a better way forward. Hoping.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 9:08:51pm

REI Union Busting

Looks like the bean counters are running things at REI. Not really a co-op anymore. Won’t be visiting them for a while.

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EPR-radar Apr 2, 2024 • 9:10:45pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

Exactly. He must not be paying attention. Hamas needs to be eliminated but Netanyahu seems to have lost the plot. He’s putting President Biden in a rough place as well.

Bibi is a proper conservative. The issues his fuckups cause for Biden are categorically irrelevant in his worldview.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 2, 2024 • 9:15:05pm

re: #192 Belafon

Suddenly, blood is able to flow freely to her brain and she bursts out, “What have I done?!”

😂 😂

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 9:20:27pm

Mastodon

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Romantic Heretic Apr 2, 2024 • 9:23:29pm

re: #184 Patricia Kayden

You have to remember, to Bibi, his cronies, and his supporters there is only Hamas. There are, to them, no innocent Palestinians. They’re all evil.

Which makes it much easier to kill them. Evil must be defeated after all.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 9:24:19pm

re: #209 EPR-radar

Bibi is a proper conservative. The issues his fuckups cause for Biden are categorically irrelevant in his worldview.

If there is anyone who can find a solution, of all the politicians I have seen in my life, it is Biden. I think the best thing for Israel now is to get Netanyahu out. Biden has obviously talked with members of the current coalition who are not fans and who would see a large pickup if elections were held now, as well as Likud seeing a drop.

I think Biden has an economic plan for the ME that he actually had successful buy-in from the Saudis, Egypt and Israel. I think the timing of the Hamas attacks were to derail that process (Biden has said as much). A new Israeli government could put this back on track.

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Egregious Philbin Apr 2, 2024 • 9:24:26pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

Ajo (Spanish for garlic) is an interesting place. Formerly a big copper mining and smelting town, my tiny high school in Phoenix would play them in sports, tough opponents. Now, its more of a small town with a bit of an arts scene. It is also the place you drive through to get to Puerto Penasco “Rocky Point” Mexico. Its the last town you go through before the border, except for Why Arizona. Pretty country down there, we always see something cool on our drives down.

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piratedan Apr 2, 2024 • 9:27:40pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

it’s been a wet winter, so lots of plump cacti and wildflowers and grasses everywhere. The springtime feed is in full flush. The counter is that there’s more to burn when summer comes.

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wrenchwench Apr 2, 2024 • 9:31:58pm

re: #214 Egregious Philbin

Ajo (Spanish for garlic) is an interesting place. Formerly a big copper mining and smelting town, my tiny high school in Phoenix would play them in sports, tough opponents. Now, its more of a small town with a bit of an arts scene. It is also the place you drive through to get to Puerto Penasco “Rocky Point” Mexico. Its the last town you go through before the border, except for Why Arizona. Pretty country down there, we always see something cool on our drives down.

I’ve always liked the sound (if not the taste) of mojo de ajo.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 9:34:48pm

@joshuajfriedman.com

NEW: Jack Smith tells Judge Cannon that both her proposed scenarios “rest on an unstated and fundamentally flawed legal premise”—and that it is “vitally important” that she inform parties whether this is her view so that the government can “seek prompt appellate review.”

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IngisKahn Apr 2, 2024 • 9:37:44pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

I’ve always liked the sound (if not the taste) of mojo de ajo.

I prefer the Portuguese molho de alho. (moi-yoo thi ai-yoo)

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2024 • 9:41:18pm

re: #217 jaunte

Translation: I’ve had just about enough of your shit.

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jaunte Apr 2, 2024 • 9:44:09pm

re: #219 Eclectic Cyborg

“Because you’re the judge, we’ll play your game, while making sure everyone knows it’s a stupid one.”

C. Scenario (b): The Jury Is Incorrectly Instructed that the Defendant Is Authorized to Possess Any Record that He Designated as Personal, and Is Further Incorrectly Instructed that, by Failing to Transfer the Charged Documents to NARA, the
Defendant Made the Unreviewable Decision to Designate the Charged Documents as Personal.
Like Scenario (a), proposed Scenario (b) rests on the erroneous and unsupported legal proposition that the designation of records as either personal or presidential under the PRA has an impact on whether a person is authorized to possess classified documents under Section 793(e). It has no such impact. But Scenario (b) also incorporates additional layers of erroneous legal propositions at the core of Trump’s legally flawed and factually unsupported PRA defense. As to this scenario, the jury instruction would amount to nothing more than a recitation of Trump’s PRA defense as presented in his motion to dismiss and would result in directing a verdict against the Government. As set forth above, the Court should deny Trump’s motion to dismiss and reject any such jury instruction. Nevertheless, as directed by the Court, the Government sets forth below a draft jury instruction regarding unauthorized possession that assumes Scenario (b) to be “a correct
formulation of the law.” ECF No 407 at 2.

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BeenHereAwhile Apr 2, 2024 • 9:47:37pm

re: #110 jaunte

A contest in Wisconsin.

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Where’s the Big Butter Jesus?

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IngisKahn Apr 2, 2024 • 9:49:13pm

re: #213 silverdolphin

If there is anyone who can find a solution, of all the politicians I have seen in my life, it is Biden.

Openly declaring you’re a zionist doesn’t help.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 10:05:42pm

re: #222 IngisKahn

Openly declaring you’re a zionist doesn’t help.

Views change. I certainly think it is possible to be a zionist without supporting whole-heartedly the Netanyahu government. Biden has stated that Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and others are ready to recognize thet right of the State of Israel to exist. That would be a huge milestone but one that Bibi apparently does not want.

Which is why I think Biden is moving behind the scenes to get elections soon in Israel.

Bibi has burned up almost all the good will Israel still has. I simply do not see how his government survives much longer.

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BeenHereAwhile Apr 2, 2024 • 10:12:48pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

Masto posts from @m.ai6yr.org won’t post here, so this is a screenshot:

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Here’s the link. It doesn’t work. I can’t get the State of Oregon’s website at all.

My best post ever! /

Here’s the printed portion of the post:
(iPhone OCR is a motherfucker)

BakersRelay boosted
Al6YR Ben • 2h
@ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org
Unintended release of Chinook into a river in Oregon, due to a traffic accident. (minor injuries to the driver, and not all the Chinook made it into the river… but the ones that did should survive).
Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife: “On March 29 near Lookingglass Hatchery in northeast Oregon, a fish tanker truck was involved in an accident while transporting approximately 102,000 spring Chinook smolts for release in the Imnaha River…. The accident occurred alongside Lookingglass Creek, a tributary of the Grande Ronde River. About 77,000 smolts made it into the creek when the tanker overturned”
dfw.state.or.us…

#fish #accident #traffic …and 2 more
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Hope the water temperature in the truck’s tank was the same or close to the creek’s temperature.
Fish tend not to survive sudden changes in water temperature.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 10:14:06pm

Recent editorials in Haaretz:

The West Bank Proves: Netanyahu’s Talking Nonsense About ‘Total Victory’ in Gaza

As Israel Relies on Force, It Sets Itself Up for Suicide

Israelis Cling to the Foundational Creed: Belief in the IDF’s Morality

Israelis Ratchet Up the Protests Against Netanyahu and His Gaslighting Lackeys

Israel Must End Its War in Gaza Now

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 10:17:09pm

Trump prosecutor issues ultimatum to Florida judge

In a functioning system, Cannon would be removed.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 2, 2024 • 10:38:17pm

re: #220 jaunte

“Because you’re the judge, we’ll play your game, while making sure everyone knows it’s a stupid one.”

The recent article suggesting that Cannon’s problem was her woeful inexperience seemed an interesting possibility. But then I reverted to my previous belief that she was in the tank for Trump. Now I’m wondering if the problem is that not only is she a Trump acolyte, but she is not very bright at all.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 10:44:38pm

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

The recent article suggesting that Cannon’s problem was her woeful inexperience seemed an interesting possibility. But then I reverted to my previous belief that she was in the tank for Trump. Now I’m wondering if the problem is that not only is she a Trump acolyte, but she is not very bright at all.

She’s just another one of Leonard Leo’s puppets and she doesn’t even go to the bathroom without asking for his permission.

The truth is this whole farce is really being run by Leo and his Federalist interns.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 10:49:11pm

Tomorrow is April 3rd which would have been my Dad’s 104th birthday.

If Dad were still around he would be throwing an endless white hot fit about Trump. He detested that worm while he was alive. He’d be calling me blowing his stack. Pop would be calling into CSPAN every day roasting Republicans.

Pop I’m glad that you are in a better place because the world has really gone down the john since you crossed the rainbow bridge.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 10:50:36pm

re: #228 Joe Bacon ✅

She’s just another one of Leonard Leo’s puppets and she doesn’t even go to the bathroom without asking for his permission.

The truth is this whole farce is really being run by Leo and his Federalist interns.

Yep. Name the one judge that Trump has not attacked? Not a coincidence.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 10:52:04pm

The Next junior senator from Texas. If we work hard.

Rep. Colin Allred – Meet the Voting Rights Lawyer & Dad Running Against Ted Cruz | The Daily Show

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sagehen Apr 2, 2024 • 11:01:07pm

re: #189 silverdolphin

I am hoping that the groundwork Biden has laid wrt the more moderate Gantz, whose 8 members are currently part of Bibi’s government, might result in some real progress. If Bibi refuses to listen to him, he can force new elections.

Don’t sleep on Yair Lapis; centrist, opposition leader, he’ll be in Washington next week to meet with unspecified “leaders.”

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 2, 2024 • 11:05:05pm

Gee look who is running last in tonight’s Connecticut Democratic Presidential Primary!

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William Lewis Apr 2, 2024 • 11:08:21pm

re: #232 sagehen

Don’t sleep on Yair Lapis; centrist, opposition leader, he’ll be in Washington next week to meet with unspecified “leaders.”

Hadn’t heard of him (grumble my news sources) Thanks for the heads up, I’ll start following him.

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DodgerFan1988 Apr 2, 2024 • 11:10:57pm

Just remembering this notorious meeting of the Ba’ath Party in 1979 where Saddam Hussein called out random members and had them taken away for execution as a way to strike fear in the hearts of Iraqis and consolidate his power. pic.twitter.com/IeHsstP8oK

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) April 3, 2024

Trump would not hesitate to do the same exact thing if he’s back in power.

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sagehen Apr 2, 2024 • 11:14:00pm

re: #234 William Lewis

Hadn’t heard of him (grumble my news sources) Thanks for the heads up, I’ll start following him.

I edited my post to correct spelling; it’s Lapid.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 2, 2024 • 11:14:17pm

re: #230 silverdolphin

Yep. Name the one judge that Trump has not attacked? Not a coincidence.

Cannon reminds me of an infamous Chicago judge: Frank Wilson. He acquitted a mob hit man of murder in a bench trial in 1977. Years later it was discovered that the judge was bribed and he committed suicide in 1990. In 1993, Aleman was retried for the same murder and convicted, based on the rationale that double jeopardy didn’t apply because he was never in jeopardy during the first trial. She is as corrupt as Wilson.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 11:22:12pm

re: #232 sagehen

Don’t sleep on Yair Lapis; centrist, opposition leader, he’ll be in Washington next week to meet with unspecified “leaders.”

Yep, and I have been watching Yair Golan, the former General and deputy IDF Chief of Staff, who seems focussed on revitalizing the left wing in Israel.

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sagehen Apr 2, 2024 • 11:31:43pm

Yair Golan, on October 7, heard the news on the radio and reactivated himself; put on his uniform, drove to his previous headquarters to get weapons, then went south. He rescued 3 carloads of festival escapees/survivors.

npr.org

there seems to be a lot of Yairs.

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silverdolphin Apr 2, 2024 • 11:44:48pm

re: #239 sagehen

Yair Golan, on October 7, heard the news on the radio and reactivated himself; put on his uniform, drove to his previous headquarters to get weapons, then went south. He rescued 3 carloads of festival escapees/survivors.

npr.org

there seems to be a lot of Yairs.

I noticed that. I first heard about Golan back in Oct. He got a lot of possitivity and is looking to leverage it into a renewed political life. Maybe driving a re-vitalized left.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 12:20:53am

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, if you stop it before it fully starts, you will be lambasted and treated as a criminal. If someone went back in time and assassinated Hitler at the beginning of his reign of terror, he would not be considered a hero who stopped evil but a murderer who did not respect the rule of law.

and of course, they might have found and put up someone in his place who was slightly less crayzee but a lot more more effective…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 12:26:05am

re: #11 wrenchwench

I can’t understand why most people don’t seem to really get how absolutely horrific Trump’s deliberate mishandling of the COVID-19 pandemic was. His only concern was his own political gain, and he knew how bad things were going to get but lied outright to downplay it publicly.

and he denied help to Blue State governors who werent being “nice” enough to him, forgetting of course that Republicans also live in those states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 12:42:07am

re: #215 piratedan

it’s been a wet winter, so lots of plump cacti and wildflowers and grasses everywhere. The springtime feed is in full flush. The counter is that there’s more to burn when summer comes.

you are making me homesick.

My last trip to Puerto Pinasco was in 40 years ago…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 12:43:37am

re: #226 silverdolphin

Trump prosecutor issues ultimatum to Florida judge

In a functioning system, Cannon would ~~be removed~~ never have been appointed in the first place.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 12:54:38am

re: #214 Egregious Philbin

Ajo (Spanish for garlic) is an interesting place. Formerly a big copper mining and smelting town, my tiny high school in Phoenix would play them in sports, tough opponents. Now, its more of a small town with a bit of an arts scene. It is also the place you drive through to get to Puerto Penasco “Rocky Point” Mexico. Its the last town you go through before the border, except for Why Arizona. Pretty country down there, we always see something cool on our drives down.

I was told that the name comes from the fact that copper arsenate ore smells of garlic

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 1:49:45am

The Florida Supreme Court didn’t just sweep away decades of precedent that recognized the right to privacy in the Florida Constitution protects the right to abortion. The majority also adopted the belief that the Constitution protects the right to life of the unborn, but fell just one vote shy of ruling that made the pro-choice constitutional initiative itself unconstitutional. Florida needs a 60% vote for the constitutional initiative to avoid becoming Gilead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 2:00:16am

re: #246 No Malarkey!

The GOP are going out of their way to remind us that we cannot take any gains made over recent decades in personal freedoms, minority, women’s or LGBTQ rights for granted: there are people out there doing everything they can to revoke these rights and turn back the clock.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 3, 2024 • 2:40:18am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 2:42:25am

re: #248 Patricia Kayden

He’s selling remaindered Bibles from 2021 now!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Apr 3, 2024 • 3:28:53am

Got it in three.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 3:46:14am

Not going to lie, this was a total off-the-wall guess. I was not expecting it to be correct.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 3, 2024 • 3:48:19am

re: #230 silverdolphin

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 3:49:26am

I realized doing the math that in the 12 oz. bags, I’m getting enough coffee to last me roughly 12 breakfast coffees (which is, in fairness, a couple of large coffee cup (not mug!) servings, and this is costing me about 15 bucks. gonna have to see what the 5 lb. bags come out to. (editing just to make clear the “breakfast coffees” is 500 ml. of coffee in total, so it’s not quite as bad as if it were one portion).

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 3:52:15am

re: #250 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

In four.
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(((Archangel1))) Apr 3, 2024 • 4:23:25am

re: #239 sagehen

There are three prominent Yairs in Israeli politics (one of them for all the wrong reasons):

* Yair Lapid - former prime minister* and head of the Yesh Atid (“There’s a Future”) centrist-secular party. Former author, reporter, minister, head of the opposition and proponent of anti-corruption and secular measures, all like his father before him - the late Tommy Lapid, who headed the secular-oriented Shinui (“Change”) party nearly 20 years ago and head nearly the same exact roles. Was disliked by the Ultra-Orthodox parties before his anti-Netanyahu “Change Coalition” meant they were out of a governmental coalition for the first time in 20 years, utterly hated by them now.

Yair Golan - respected general and head of the often-mocked-as-too-naive liberal-left Meretz (“Vigor”) party. If the name rings a bell, it’s because I’ve mentioned them before - they were the ones that got screwed out of national political power in the 2022 elections due to astoundingly stupid ratfuckery by other left-wing parties that also ROYALLY fucked up the anti-Bibi bloc’s votes (paving the way for the Netanyahu bloc to win with ~48% of total votes). Been on the rise since the events of October 7, and Meretz is looking to retake a notable chunk of the Israeli parliament based on every poll since.

And last ~~but not~~ and most certainly least:
Yair Netanyahu - Bibi’s son, often nicknamed the Mad Prince (I call him “Joffrey Netanyahu” in reference to Game of Thrones - still trying to make it a thing). Primarily referred to by most in Israel as “Yeled Z”, meaning the “Z child” - with z standing for either “zevel” (trash) or “zayin” (dick). Total ahole and industrial-grade troll with no accomplishments or anything really other than being The Son. Loved to harass and slander on social media until two lawsuits by his victims (one of them a woman he targeted because of a group photo she took with a prominent politician, accusing her of being a hooker and his mistress and siccing his followers on her) ended up costing the Netanyahu family over a million in damages. Trying to hide from the public since, and last seen while AWOL in Miami, Florida.

(* briefly as part of a rotation agreement in the anti-Netanyahu “Change” government prior to the November 2022 elections. Lapid basically won the mandate to assemble a coalition government after his party came in second to Likud and Netanyahu failed to form one. He then formed an unexpected coalition with the right-wing Bennet’s party to oust Netanyahu, with both party heads agreeing to serve two years out of four as PM)

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 4:25:56am

re: #255 (((Archangel1)))

So if I understand you correctly, Yair Netanyahu is roughly equivalent to Don Jr.

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 4:27:57am

Here is an article about the controversy over the subsidies and draft deferments for the Ultra-Orthodox, a key part of Bibi’s coalition government. 70% of Israelis want their draft deferment ended.

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(((Archangel1))) Apr 3, 2024 • 4:30:08am

re: #256 Nerdy Fish

So if I understand you correctly, Yair Netanyahu is roughly equivalent to Don Jr.

Think Don Jr., add more influence (because unlike Herr RoadkillHair, Bibi actually loves and takes pride in his children* and initially gave the would-be heir the power to do sh*t inside his party before apparently revoking it), then remove several dozen IQ points along with all reason and any sense of accountability.

Edited to add:
* The ones he acknowledges - he has a daughter from a previous marriage that’s borderline nonexistent due to his current wife’s demands.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 4:32:32am

re: #258 (((Archangel1)))

Think Don Jr., add more influence (because unlike Herr RoadkillHair, Bibi actually loves and takes pride in his children and initially gave the would-be heir the power to do sh*t inside his party before apparently revoking it), then remove several dozen IQ points along with all reason and any sense of accountability.

That’s a terrifying thought for someone who, from your description, has all the intelligence and tact of an unbaked potato.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 3, 2024 • 4:41:25am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

The recent article suggesting that Cannon’s problem was her woeful inexperience seemed an interesting possibility. But then I reverted to my previous belief that she was in the tank for Trump. Now I’m wondering if the problem is that not only is she a Trump acolyte, but she is not very bright at all.

“Why not both?” was probably always an option in the cards.

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(((Archangel1))) Apr 3, 2024 • 4:43:23am

re: #259 Nerdy Fish

That could be considered offensive to unbaked potatoes - most of which can grow and mature properly and all of which have substantially more tact.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 3, 2024 • 4:45:40am

re: #241 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and of course, they might have found and put up someone in his place who was slightly less crayzee but a lot more more effective…

There is a semi-famous SF short story where a time traveler goes back and murders Hitler.* The Nazi back-up body double is the historical crazy Hitler.

* - From a few words it is implied that this is the “moderate” Hitler who was simply using the early rhetoric without thinking of directly applying it. And sort of beside the point of the story.

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William Lewis Apr 3, 2024 • 4:52:42am

re: #5 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, if you stop it before it fully starts, you will be lambasted and treated as a criminal. If someone went back in time and assassinated Hitler at the beginning of his reign of terror, he would not be considered a hero who stopped evil but a murderer who did not respect the rule of law.

I’ve always wondered that if Hitler got whacked if we might have gotten Reinhard Heydrich as Fuhrer instead…

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 5:05:50am

re: #78 Backwoods Sleuth

Or they’ll be kvetching that Columbus Day is also recognized as Indigenous People’s Day (because they were here first, and everyone else were the interlopers, colonialists, and genocidal types who wanted to spread Christianity far and wide, all while claiming “religious freedom” (which, to them, means freedom for them to do as they want to everyone who isn’t their religion).

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 5:05:54am

re: #246 No Malarkey!

The Florida Supreme Court didn’t just sweep away decades of precedent that recognized the right to privacy in the Florida Constitution protects the right to abortion. The majority also adopted the belief that the Constitution protects the right to life of the unborn, but fell just one vote shy of ruling that made the pro-choice constitutional initiative itself unconstitutional. Florida needs a 60% vote for the constitutional initiative to avoid becoming Gilead.

Just as an example of how close to Gilead Florida now is, if the unborn have a constitutional right to life, then traveling out of state for an abortion is a kidnapping as part of a conspiracy to commit murder, and every miscarriage is a potential homicide.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 3, 2024 • 5:08:22am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Just as an example of how close to Gilead Florida now is, if the unborn have a constitutional right to life, then traveling out of state for an abortion is a kidnapping as part of a conspiracy to commit murder, and every miscarriage is a potential homicide.

While the woman carrying said unborn appears to have zero rights herself.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 5:08:29am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

Just as an example of how close to Gilead Florida now is, if the unborn have a constitutional right to life, then traveling out of state for an abortion is a kidnapping as part of a conspiracy to commit murder, and every miscarriage is a potential homicide.

Which, of course, explains why they also want to criminalize using roads to travel for abortions, and miscarriages.

As an aside: “Criminalizing miscarriages” sounds so stupid on the face of it. Things happen in life. You’re basically punishing women merely for existing, which, yes, is the point, I get it. I just don’t understand why anyone would want to live that way, where you use dirty tricks and technicalities to control people.

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Dangerman Apr 3, 2024 • 5:14:40am

re: #266 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

While the woman carrying said unborn appears to have zero rights herself.

this imo is the real goal

not competing rights between two ‘individuals’, because those can be argued, weighed, and judged.

no. they want the inerrant, cant-be-questioned always superior and absolute right of the unborn (that might not ever be born) over the actually born.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 3, 2024 • 5:22:20am

re: #263 William Lewis

I’ve always wondered that if Hitler got whacked if we might have gotten Reinhard Heydrich as Fuhrer instead…

I don’t think you would have gotten anyone. The NSDAP was pretty much a one-man dog and pony show. It went from a shabby beerhall debating society to the political behemoth it became because of Adolf Hitler’s organizational and rhetorical abilities. Look at the people who made up the Deutsche Arbeiter Partie when Hitler first came nosing around…a bunch of half-wit mystics, economic cranks and anti-Semitic crackpots. Hitler’s charisma and his world-class ability to act as a crank magnet is what drew in men like Göring, Goebbels, Himmler and Julius Streicher.

Take Hitler out of the picture and all you would’ve had left is, well…..a shabby beerhall debating society that would’ve likely faded into political oblivion before the Great Depression.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 5:25:29am

Wake up and first thing I see in my e-mail is the Washington Post pumping up Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs RFK.

Sickening.

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Dangerman Apr 3, 2024 • 5:26:32am

The best part of this story is he was taken down by two grandmas who saw a photo of him at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. They showed up to a public event with huge copies of the photo and confronted him with the evidence. He ran away from them. 🤣 https://t.co/BHITP8ubCR

— Decoding Fox News (@DecodingFoxNews) April 3, 2024

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 5:26:44am

Trump is a fucking fascist and isn’t hiding his intentions. He’s telling his base that he’d federalize state and local cops to do his bidding - indemnifying cops from being “destroyed by radical leftists” and being held accountable for their malfeasance.

Trump has readily signaled his intentions. He wanted to use the Insurrection Act. He wanted to curb stomp on protesters using their 1A rights to criticize the govt.

And of course the seditious Oathkeeper cops and Oathkeeper adjacent cops are cheering this on. They get their fever dream.

Who’d be targeted by Trump?

The better question is who wouldn’t be targeted.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 5:29:55am

re: #272 lawhawk

The reason why they back him despite 4 criminal indictments and promising to pardon people who beat up and injured 150+ cops is because his entire life he has stood for the proposition that they should be able to do anything they want without reprisal or consequences. pic.twitter.com/cmfNEsdw0h

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 3, 2024

We saw something similar when Trump showed at a funeral for a NYPD cop. The union is more than happy to back a guy with 91 indictments and could face life in prison, all because Trump is willing to end all protections against self-incrimination, Miranda, etc. that limit cops power to be the Dredd-style judges that they want to be.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 5:31:10am

Cannon’s fucking around with the classified docs case - and Smith needs to be even more aggressive in questioning the rulings and her competency to hold the trial as an impartial party.

To make this crystal clear, if trial begins and Judge Cannon makes a ruling that is legally erroneous *in the middle of the trial*, resulting in a not guilty verdict, prosecutors *cannot* appeal the verdict.

That’s why Jack Smith wants a ruling before trial, so he can appeal. https://t.co/JcZumOs0zB

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) April 3, 2024

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course) Apr 3, 2024 • 5:33:03am

re: #100 Charles

Agree with everything you said but I still have a sliver of doubt that this was completely accidental.

I am a child of the USS Liberty, in that I was in boot camp when it happened and it drastically affected my career choice when I said I would NOT attend school to learn Chinese. No spy ship for me!

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Dr Lizardo Apr 3, 2024 • 5:33:16am

re: #274 lawhawk

Judge Cannon needs to removed from the case. End of story.

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jeffreyw Apr 3, 2024 • 5:33:34am

Good morning!

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 5:42:04am

re: #277 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

I like to think every day is a day I’m not living with regerts.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 5:56:10am

“Trump’s innovation was to create a cult so encompassing that each dollar they lose is only more proof of their devotion,” Waldman writes. “So don’t feel bad for the buyers of Trump’s meme stock. They’re glad to be swindled.”

Yes it’s a cult. They are willing to lose their life savings for Gawd’s Anointed King.

alternet.org

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Dr Lizardo Apr 3, 2024 • 6:08:54am

re: #279 Joe Bacon ✅

“Trump’s innovation was to create a cult so encompassing that each dollar they lose is only more proof of their devotion,” Waldman writes. “So don’t feel bad for the buyers of Trump’s meme stock. They’re glad to be swindled.”

Yes it’s a cult. They are willing to lose their life savings for Gawd’s Anointed King.

alternet.org

“I’mma livin’ in this here tent, after I lost the house ‘cause I didn’t pay the mortgage and the bank took it, ‘cause I sent the mortgage money to President Trump, the greatest President America ever gonna have and it was worth it ‘cause I did my small part to own the libs! MAGA 2024!!”

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 6:10:57am

re: #273 lawhawk

In a year or so those cops will be claiming that was an arrest photo.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 6:16:42am

Man behind Dobbs decision now complains women being left to ‘back-alley abortion butchers’

Although Matt Staver’s Liberty Counsel filed a brief to overturn Roe v. Wade, he believes women could be put in a worse situation after the Dobbs decision that relied on his legal opinion.

I don’t believe a word Matt Staver says.

The truth is he loves to hurt women and see them suffer.

rawstory.com

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 6:21:10am

re: #282 Joe Bacon ✅

If he was really concerned that “women could be put in a worse situation,” he never would’ve filed the brief. He’s only saying this now because someone put him in the doghouse after she found out about his shitty beliefs.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 6:25:06am

An evangelical pastor is getting some well-deserved criticism after telling a hypothetical new bride to “do what he tells you to do” on your wedding night.

Pastor Josh Howerton, who leads Lakepointe Church, a megachurch in Rockwall, Texas, delivered the message on February 24. About two minutes into his sermon, he was talking about how the church had just sponsored a “Marriage Night” event. People who couldn’t go were asking him what was discussed there, so he gave them a glimpse of what they missed by offering a “gold nugget of advice” to everyone in the congregation who is on the path toward marriage.

Guys, when it comes to her wedding day she has been planning this day her entire life… So here’s what you need to do… When it comes to that day, just stand where she tells you to stand, wear what she tells you to wear, and do what she tells you to do. You’ll make her the happiest woman in the world. Okay?

Easy enough. There were “amens” all around. Then came the punchline, the advice for women (prefaced with “Let’s see if you ‘amen’ this…”):

… Ladies, when it comes to his wedding night, he has been planning this day his whole life. So just stand where he tells you to stand, wear what he tells you to wear, and do what he tells you to do, and you’re going to make him the happiest man in the world.

That’s what’s known in evangelical circles as “humor” and what’s known outside evangelical circles as a reason people no longer go to church.

friendlyatheist.com

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Dangerman Apr 3, 2024 • 6:28:50am

re: #279 Joe Bacon ✅

“Trump’s innovation was to create a cult so encompassing that each dollar they lose is only more proof of their devotion,” Waldman writes. “So don’t feel bad for the buyers of Trump’s meme stock. They’re glad to be swindled.”

Yes it’s a cult. They are willing to lose their life savings for Gawd’s Anointed King.

alternet.org

While this is true about the rubes, hes the one who profits from it

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Apr 3, 2024 • 6:38:21am

Current Ebay listing for some collector currency. Does everyone else see the problem here?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 6:39:43am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Current Ebay listing for some collector currency. Does everyone else see the problem here?

The vendor is a cereal killer?

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 6:40:49am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

K-E-DOUBLE L-O-DOUBLE GOOD…

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 6:42:04am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Silver Certificates use blue markings and Gold Certificates use red. There is no series number on the so called $1 bill. Also serial is spelled wrong.

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gocart mozart Apr 3, 2024 • 6:42:43am

These kids are taking School of Rock to the next level by crushing Ozzy’s “Crazy Train” on the xylophones 🔥
pic.twitter.com/wYyRQdoEaf

— Wu Tang is for the Children (@WUTangKids) April 3, 2024

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nines09 Apr 3, 2024 • 6:43:46am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Zero feedback is always a dice toss.
Especially with this merchandise.

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Markm1960 Apr 3, 2024 • 6:48:36am

re: #289 PhillyPretzel ✅

Silver Certificates use blue markings and Gold Certificates use red. There is no series number on the so called $1 bill. Also serial is spelled wrong.

So they’re ultra rare mis-prints. I’m in!//

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 6:51:37am

I didn’t think this was real.

Havana syndrome attacks linked to Russian spy unit, new 60 minutes report reveals

A former senior CIA officer who was forced to retire over a brain injury caused by a suspected “Havana Syndrome” attack has called for congressional hearings after a new report linked Russia to mysterious neurological symptoms that have plagued U.S. diplomats and spies for nearly a decade.

The report comes a little more than a year after the U.S. intelligence community concluded it was “very unlikely a foreign adversary is responsible” for the sometimes-debilitating headaches, dizziness, memory loss and buzzing in the ears reported by dozens of American personnel.

“It’s not conclusive, but it’s certainly compelling that the Russians are involved in it,” former intelligence officer Marc Polymeropoulos told USA TODAY, reacting to the new report. Polymeropoulos has become a public face and advocate for current and former U.S. officials who say they suffer from Havana Syndrome.

“How do you reconcile that with the analytic assessment” downplaying foreign hostile actors, he asked. “It makes absolutely no sense.”

A joint investigation by “60 Minutes,” the Latvia-based news site The Insider, and the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel reported Sunday that senior members of Unit 29155 of the Russian GRU military intelligence agency have received awards and promotions for their work related to the development of “non-lethal acoustic weapons.”

The reporting points to attacks by Russian intelligence against American diplomatic personnel and their families that victims have long alleged. The reports said that U.S. intelligence officers who had served in Kyiv in 2014 − as Ukraine and the U.S. moved closer together and Russia first began to seize territory in eastern Ukraine − appear to have been tracked and targeted in subsequent postings.

usatoday.com

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 6:57:04am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I just looked this up. There are 12 not 13 federal reserve districts. So that “M” on the so-called $1 does not exist. It might have at one point existed but I do not think so.

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JC1 Apr 3, 2024 • 7:10:00am

re: #286 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Current Ebay listing for some collector currency. Does everyone else see the problem here?

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Cereal number?

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 7:14:54am

re: #295 JC1

That and quite a few other things. Buyer Beware.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 7:25:47am

Charlie Kirk: No Christian Should Be On Birth Control, It Makes Women “Bitter, Angry, And Unattractive” To Men https://t.co/QmLbfdnXA2 pic.twitter.com/oMPkGntxvu

— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) April 3, 2024

Heritage and the Christian fascists are coming for birth control, reproductive freedom, and women’s rights.

They will not stop until they remove a woman’s agency over their bodies and lives.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 7:38:38am

re: #297 lawhawk

The 40 Year Old Virgin says…WHAT??????

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 7:39:27am

re: #297 lawhawk

Charlie Kirk: No Christian Should Be On Birth Control, It Makes Women “Bitter, Angry, And Unattractive”

Bitterness, anger and lack of attractiveness should be a man’s prerogative!!!

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Romantic Heretic Apr 3, 2024 • 7:39:52am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

Now I’m wondering if the problem is that not only is she a Trump acolyte, but she is not very bright at all.

The latter is a necessary condition for the former.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 7:42:25am

re: #299 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember when Trump and other right wingers were kvetching that a woman is too emotional to be a president? Trump and these right wingers are all overly emotional insecure petty fragile ego know nothing extremists who want to impose their will on everyone else.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 7:45:01am

Captain Underpants chimes in…

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 7:45:11am

re: #300 Romantic Heretic

The latter is a necessary condition for the former.

She’s inexperienced and not ready for a case of this magnitude…that’s evidenced by her having been corrected multiple times and that she’s making mistakes that every legal expert watching (and every legal expert is watching) is pointing out on a regular basis.

She’s a Trump alcolyte, yes…and there is some evidence of her being a supporter of his before her appoinment.

And finally, she is dumb. If someone is telling her she’s untouchable as she has a lifetime appointment they’re lying to her. And if she collaborates with Trump directly (so far it’s been back-channel advice from Trump allies), she could be disrobed (in the judicial sense…in the OnlyFans sense will come later)

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Romantic Heretic Apr 3, 2024 • 7:49:04am

re: #262 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

The funny part about that story was all the time travellers showing up at the same time. All with the wrong clothes, dialect, and accent for the time.

The police grab the main character remarking, “Well, here’s another one.”

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 3, 2024 • 7:49:15am

re: #244 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The ABA evaluated her as qualified. There may have been no early clues about the extent of her corruption.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 7:50:17am

re: #305 Hecuba’s daughter

The ABA evaluated her as qualified. There may have been no early clues about the extent of her corruption.

The Federalist Society evaluated her as Excellent since she made it clear she would do whatever Leonard Leo commands.

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Romantic Heretic Apr 3, 2024 • 7:51:02am

re: #263 William Lewis

Or Ernst Röhm. (shudder)

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Romantic Heretic Apr 3, 2024 • 7:52:48am

re: #267 Nerdy Fish

Because the people implementing those laws don’t believe it will apply to them.

And often won’t.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 7:52:57am

Trump has decided that he doesn’t have enough lawsuits and counterclaims. He wants more.

This time he’s suing the guys who made Truth Social a stock and he wants to zero out their ownership, claiming that they screwed things up. They’ve countered with suits of their own.

In the latest legal skirmish over who gets how much of the hot but flailing meme stock, Trump alleges that Andy Litinsky and Wes Moss violated an agreement about the setup and don’t deserve their 8.6% stake, currently valued at $606 million.

The lawsuit, which was filed on March 24 in Florida state court and hasn’t previously been reported, comes after the pair brought their own suit against the former president in Delaware Chancery Court over their promised stake in the social media company.

The legal fight is playing out amid wild swings in shares of Trump Media, which began trading last week after it merged with a special purpose acquisition company, known as a SPAC. The stock dropped 21% Monday after Trump Media disclosed in a securities filing a $58 million loss and a relative trickle of revenue for 2023, and reiterated a warning that it needed the money from the SPAC deal to keep operating.

Grab your popcorn and I hope everyone goes bankrupt and prison, but I can’t always get what I want.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 7:53:29am

re: #307 Romantic Heretic

Or Ernst Röhm. (shudder)

There was also a Monarchist faction in Germany in the 1930’s who were working hard to put a Kaiser back on the Throne, but Hitler not only derailed their plans, he jumped onto the very rails they had laid in place (a strong executive branch) and rode them to power.

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Unabogie Apr 3, 2024 • 7:56:09am

re: #302 Joe Bacon ✅

Captain Underpants chimes in…

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My dad died in 1998. Back then, Alan Dershowitz was a hero of the ACLU crowd and known for being a champion of civil liberties (ignoring the OJ case, in which you can at least plausibly argue he was defending against the well-known abuses of the LAPD and not in favor of OJ)

But I can only imagine if my dad came back today and saw Alan as the committed ally of people like Donald Trump, Victoria Toensing, and the rest of the American Nazi party.

The mind reels.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 3, 2024 • 7:56:18am

re: #250 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Got it in three.

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A Cranky One Apr 3, 2024 • 7:57:27am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 8:00:26am

re: #313 A Cranky One

“I don’t believe the 2020 election was stolen, but I lied about it because I knew that was a condition of getting hired!”

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 8:02:27am

re: #309 lawhawk

Oh, and I buried the lede…

The judge in the Delaware case is considering sanctions against Trump and his lawyers for bringing the Florida suit, instead of treating it as a counterclaim in Delaware.

Everywhere Trump goes to court, he faces sanctions for misconduct and improper legal conduct. This pattern appears purposeful and with intent to maximize the delays and harms to the opposing parties.

Sanction the fuck out of them.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 3, 2024 • 8:04:27am

re: #315 lawhawk

And of course he keeps running to Florida, because that’s where the friendliest judges are, and especially if he can get it in front of Loose Cannon, where he can use her inexperience and/or the promise of a SCOTUS seat for her if she rules his way to his advantage.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 8:07:56am

re: #303 darthstar

… she could be disrobed (in the judicial sense…in the OnlyFans sense will come later)

Ewwww. 🤢🤮

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Florida Panhandler Apr 3, 2024 • 8:09:14am

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

1. She is indeed not bright at all.

2. She is in the tank for Trump because he promised her an immediate Supreme Court seat when he takes over and, with a subjugated and compliant Senate, packs the court.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 8:13:18am

re: #297 lawhawk

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sizzzzlerz Apr 3, 2024 • 8:17:18am

Taiwan ringing like a bell after yesterday’s 7.4 earthquake.

USGS

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 8:21:32am

Interestingly, Trump’s lawyers commissioned a survey to bolster their arguments of a tainted jury pool.

DA Bragg says the survey accomplished the opposite — confirming Manhattanites can set aside their opinions of Trump and give him a fair trial. pic.twitter.com/uEKAqFhpT8

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) April 3, 2024

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 8:25:31am

re: #320 sizzzzlerz

And the Greater Philadelphia area is sopping wet.
weather.gov

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 8:27:21am

It’s been so long since I thought about printers - have an HP 2549 deskjet piece of shit right now but I have always had good luck with the Brother printers…it should be the only one on the market by all rights and measures.

Mastodon

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 8:32:56am

re: #303 darthstar

She’s inexperienced and not ready for a case of this magnitude…that’s evidenced by her having been corrected multiple times and that she’s making mistakes that every legal expert watching (and every legal expert is watching) is pointing out on a regular basis.

She’s a Trump alcolyte, yes…and there is some evidence of her being a supporter of his before her appoinment.

And finally, she is dumb. If someone is telling her she’s untouchable as she has a lifetime appointment they’re lying to her. And if she collaborates with Trump directly (so far it’s been back-channel advice from Trump allies), she could be disrobed (in the judicial sense…in the OnlyFans sense will come later)

I rather like the term defrocked.

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 8:40:56am

Good to see Skeletor’s in recovery.

Mastodon

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 8:42:07am

re: #324 steve_davis

I rather like the term defrocked.

She’s not a priestess, but she may add that to the menu on her OF site when it opens.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 8:54:21am

re: #324 steve_davis

I rather like the term defrocked.

frock me, baby!

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 8:57:21am

re: #323 darthstar

I’ve had my monochrome Brother laser printer for like 10 years. It’s worked great all this time.

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 9:00:20am

My MIL, who is 84, just called me to say she got a call from WalMart - I said you don’t do anything with WalMart so it’s likely a scam. She said she does buy things from WalMart but the guy said she had a $1000 order that needed to be delivered. She told him he was mistaken and he started to argue with her. She said, “Well, I don’t know what to tell you because I didn’t buy anything.” and he said, “Good luck, motherfucker” and hung up on her.

She’s getting better at handling scammers - last time was a sheriff’s deputy saying they were coming to arrest her for unpaid taxes and it freaked her out.

Now she has a script for the next person who presses her on the phone…just say, “Good luck, motherfucker” and hang up.

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Captain Ron Apr 3, 2024 • 9:01:19am

In addition to the one in Michigan…https://t.co/zJcppSdnxT

— Gwen Brandt MD @dancnlizard on different socials (@Dancnlizard) April 2, 2024

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:03:27am

re: #330 Captain Ron

The largest producer of fresh eggs in the United States said Tues that it has stopped production at a Texas plant after Bird Flu was found in chickens: ‘The rapid spread of this virus means we must act quickly.’

This would never have happened uner DJT!!!

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BeenHereAwhile Apr 3, 2024 • 9:05:27am

re: #327 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

frock me, baby!

Did someone say, “Rock Your Baby?”

Rock Your Baby

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wrenchwench Apr 3, 2024 • 9:10:11am

Birby. Wordle 1,019 3/6*

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Teukka Apr 3, 2024 • 9:10:54am

re: #323 darthstar

It’s been so long since I thought about printers - have an HP 2549 deskjet piece of shit right now but I have always had good luck with the Brother printers…it should be the only one on the market by all rights and measures.

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DCP-L2540DN. That is all. I’ve used a HP inkjet and Brother DCP-something inkjet previously. Apart from some small issues, I’m happeh.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 9:12:11am

How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

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JC1 Apr 3, 2024 • 9:12:50am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This would never have happened uner DJT!!!

Not sure about that. Fear of lawsuits is probably stronger than fear of whichever federal agency oversees this.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 9:18:33am

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

P.S. If you come across the article, I don’t suggest reading it.

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dat_said Apr 3, 2024 • 9:21:49am

I’d take a picture but too far away for anything other than a blur with the camera that I have. However, SWANS in the backyard pond! Happens only a few times a year. Exciting for me and, yesterday, I saw the healthiest red fox just chilling in the neighbor’s yard. So, on average, it’s been a good week so far.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 3, 2024 • 9:22:13am

+972 Magazine just published a report today detailing that the IDF has been using a second AI system named Lavender to speed up the targeting of people.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 9:22:36am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This would never have happened uner DJT!!!

It would, but he wouldn’t be afraid to use nuclear weapons against the disease, unlike reality-based Joe Biden.

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Eventual Carrion Apr 3, 2024 • 9:24:07am

re: #171 Belafon

What better way to keep the US funding Israel than to goad Iran into an attack.

Possibly, but that is a TERRIBLE scenario.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:27:07am

re: #336 JC1

Not sure about that. Fear of lawsuits is probably stronger than fear of whichever federal agency oversees this.

You are missing the point: this is Biden’s fault.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 3, 2024 • 9:33:43am

re: #339 goddamnedfrank

One rather obvious problem here is that the IDF has built not one, but two AI systems that clearly, necessarily, overlap and interact. Anytime you use the output of one AI system to feed or train another you risk mad cow operations, where a hallucinatory correlation output from the first machine becomes the assumed-to-be-true base input of the second.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 3, 2024 • 9:34:35am

Speaking of Donald Trump and legal troubles, this tidbit from his Wiki profile blows my mind:

After a series of business failures in the late twentieth century, he successfully launched side ventures that required little capital, mostly by licensing the Trump name. From 2004 to 2015, he co-produced and hosted the reality television series The Apprentice. He and his businesses have been plaintiff or defendant in more than 4,000 state and federal legal actions, including six business bankruptcies.

That works out to about 50 legal actions per year over Cheetohs entire life.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:38:03am

re: #344 Eclectic Cyborg

This is what modern business is about: Corporations don’t own anything physical, their wealth is tied up in patents, copyrights and the licenses they grant to use them.

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 9:39:16am

Mastodon

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 9:39:50am

re: #331 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For when you come across anyone that actually believes it didn’t. ;)

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 9:40:47am

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

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How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

If he spends it in a cage with a bunch of rabid monkeys then it’s justice.

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 9:43:19am

re: #346 darthstar

They probably wouldn’t appreciate an 1851 response.

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 3, 2024 • 9:43:23am

They know how unpopular they are.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:44:07am

re: #346 darthstar

Just more socializing of corporate losses. Socialism!

Singaporean firm whose ship took down the Baltimore bridge just cited an 1851 maritime law to cap liability at $44 million

The only reason that nuclear energy is at all competitive is because of liability caps.

The Price-Anderson act limits liability for a nuclear plant at…$500 million.

Chernobyl was estimated at $20 billion and Fukushima cost $96 billion.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 3, 2024 • 9:45:07am

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

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How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

CATERPILLAR took a stray in that photo

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 9:45:33am

re: #345 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is what modern business is about: Corporations don’t own anything physical, their wealth is tied up in patents, copyrights and the licenses they grant to use them.

Landlords of the intangible.

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Captain Ron Apr 3, 2024 • 9:47:11am

My deepest condolences to the families and all affected by this senseless tragedy. Their dedication to selflessly helping others and courage will never be forgotten. ❤️🙏🏽

Real heroes don’t wear capes.

— Coach Julio (@FitnessFoundry) April 2, 2024

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:48:16am

re: #353 The Ghost of a Flea

Landlords of the intangible.

Which means that financial accounting, based as it is on the era of brick-and-mortar factories, warehouses and office buildings, is increasingly irrelevant.

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A Cranky One Apr 3, 2024 • 9:50:00am

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 3, 2024 • 9:51:01am

re: #351 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The only reason that nuclear energy is at all competitive is because of liability caps.

The Price-Anderson act limits liability for a nuclear plant at…$500 million.

Chernobyl was estimated at $20 billion and Fukushima cost $96 billion.

But then, of course, the cost of environmental damage due to carbon emissions is not factored into anything at all. Certainly not any pricing or taxes to deal with the problem.

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 9:52:16am

re: #356 A Cranky One

HEY!! HE WAS THE HEAD OF A UNIVERSITY !!1!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 9:53:22am

re: #357 Hecuba’s daughter

But then, of course, the cost of environmental damage due to carbon emissions is not factored into anything at all. Certainly not any pricing or taxes to deal with the problem.

It goes to show that our whole system of accounting is arbitrary and basing a Free Market ideology on it is absurd.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 9:55:11am

I’m loathe to post a listicle, but this one actually aggregates some really interesting stuff.

10 Modern ‘Mechanical Turks’: When Automation Is Just Humans in Disguise

Short version: a bunch of “automated” services actually rely on remote workers, many in poor countries, lathe-of-heavening my joke about “we won’t have robots, we’ll have Guatemalans dressed as robots that aren’t allowed to break kayfabe” in record time.

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 9:55:26am

re: #350 GlutenFreeJesus

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They know how unpopular they are.

If Nebraska is going to change to winner-take-all, Maine should as well.

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 9:55:33am

re: #359 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It goes to show that our whole system of accounting is arbitrary and basing a Free Market ideology on it is absurd.

The economy should be measured in bottle caps. I have a first-run Figgie Fizz.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 9:56:50am

IIRC correctly, the movie Sleep Dealer came up with this idea in 2008.

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 9:59:13am

re: #360 The Ghost of a Flea

Morlocks origin story.

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 9:59:44am

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 10:00:05am

re: #360 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m loathe to post a listicle, but this one actually aggregates some really interesting stuff.

10 Modern ‘Mechanical Turks’: When Automation Is Just Humans in Disguise

Short version: a bunch of “automated” services actually rely on remote workers, many in poor countries, lathe-of-heavening my joke about “we won’t have robots, we’ll have Guatemalans dressed as robots that aren’t allowed to break kayfabe” in record time.

Goes back to the wildly innovative NY and Phillie Automats—there were little old ladies in hairnets stuffing meatloaf and coconut cream pies into those vending compartments from behind a wall.

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 10:00:14am

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

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How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

All the best people are Trump supporters./

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goddamnedfrank Apr 3, 2024 • 10:00:41am

re: #360 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m loathe to post a listicle, but this one actually aggregates some really interesting stuff.

10 Modern ‘Mechanical Turks’: When Automation Is Just Humans in Disguise

Short version: a bunch of “automated” services actually rely on remote workers, many in poor countries, lathe-of-heavening my joke about “we won’t have robots, we’ll have Guatemalans dressed as robots that aren’t allowed to break kayfabe” in record time.

Recently someone pointed out on Bluesky that if it wasn’t for all the perverse and exploitative incentives of capitalism this could actually be fun.

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Mattand Apr 3, 2024 • 10:01:42am

re: #365 darthstar

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That cartoon needs to end with a second “That’ll never happen to me” Gun Owner Snail saying…

…well, you get the idea.

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 10:02:26am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Servants entrances, dumbwaiters; rendering workers unseen has a long history.

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JC1 Apr 3, 2024 • 10:03:41am

re: #342 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You are missing the point: this is Biden’s fault.

Yes, bit slow on the uptake today.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 10:03:42am

re: #370 jaunte

Servants entrances, dumbwaiters; rendering workers unseen has a long history.

as long as they get the job done it’s fine; in fact it’s generally easier if they don’t have to worry about maintaining a customer-friendly appearance.

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Mattand Apr 3, 2024 • 10:04:21am

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

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How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

I hate this fucking world sometimes…

I can imagine a lot, but there is no universe where I can imagine a guy who wakes up in the morning and says, “You know what’s a good career choice? Global monkey torture.”

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 10:06:52am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

as long as they get the job done, in fact it’s generally easier if they don’t hvae to worry about maintaining a customer-friendly appearance.

An old Mad Magazine panel had a view of a customer-facing distribution under the sign: “Our Product Is Untouched By Human Hands”. Behind the barrier, the line was fed by gorillas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 10:06:57am

re: #373 Mattand

I hate this fucking world sometimes…

I can imagine a lot, but there is no universe where I can imagine a guy who wakes up in the morning and says, “You know what’s a good career choice? Global monkey torture.”

Peter Gabriel - Shock The Monkey

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 10:07:17am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Goes back to the wildly innovative NY and Phillie Automats—there were little old ladies in hairnets stuffing meatloaf and coconut cream pies into those vending compartments from behind a wall.

Automats are the bomb. Wish they’d make a comeback. Mostly because they had shit like coconut cream pies available.

There was a take out place in San Francisco that had a bunch of glass boxes that held your order until you opened it to take away - NO HUMAN PRESENCE…but half the building was a kitchen and some of the ‘vending’ boxes had gaps and it was obvious there were a bunch of people assembling the orders in back.

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retired cynic Apr 3, 2024 • 10:07:57am

Bald eagle lands in D.C. decades after his dad helped revive the species
Clark, a 21-year-old bald eagle, is the offspring of Ronald Reagan’s eaglet
wapo.st (gift link)

good story and photos, as palate cleanser

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 10:07:58am

re: #373 Mattand

I hate this fucking world sometimes…

I can imagine a lot, but there is no universe where I can imagine a guy who wakes up in the morning and says, “You know what’s a good career choice? Global monkey torture.”

There are some sick motherfuckers breathing our air. Who the fuck gets off on watching monkeys getting tortured?

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 10:08:26am

re: #373 Mattand

I hate this fucking world sometimes…

I can imagine a lot, but there is no universe where I can imagine a guy who wakes up in the morning and says, “You know what’s a good career choice? Global monkey torture.”

I didn’t even know that was an option. My school counselor never mentioned the field at all.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 10:09:18am

Dang. All Lizards who live in and around the Delaware/Maryland/Virginia area there is now a Tornado Watch. Please keep an eye to the sky and watch out for funnel clouds.

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 10:10:01am

re: #378 No Malarkey!

Future serial killers.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 10:10:04am

re: #368 goddamnedfrank

Recently someone pointed out on Bluesky that if it wasn’t for all the perverse and exploitative incentives of capitalism this could actually be fun.

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You could automate stuff in ways that kept workers safe, or in ways that gave decent jobs to people otherwise without opportunities.

But technology is always contextualized by the existing priorities of the system it arrives to. A choice was made to use automated looms to bust unions, a choice was made to use orphans as the human component of the new system.

The modern attempt to hide labor is just a kind of tactical merkin thrown over the older methodology of exploiting labor…training the ownership class to view workers as less-than-whole-people and thus invisible.

It’s comparatively hard to make people not-see people…you have to build a culture that teaches not-seeing, whether that’s Sparta or the British Empire or modern Singapore…if you just geographically distance the labor of production from the site of consumption people just aren’t curious how stuff gets made and what that might mean.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 10:10:42am

re: #356 A Cranky One

One of those folks actually helped avert a nuclear catastrophe caused by a reactor meltdown.

The story of the Chalk River Reactor Meltdown.

In video:

Brief History of: The NRX reactor Accident

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No Malarkey! Apr 3, 2024 • 10:11:21am

re: #380 PhillyPretzel ✅

Dang. All Lizards who live in and around the Delaware/Maryland area there is now a Tornado Watch. Please keep an eye to the sky and watch out for funnel clouds.

There were six confirmed tornados in Kentucky yesterday, one fatality.

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 10:11:40am

If consumers could feel the pain of production, number go down.

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darthstar Apr 3, 2024 • 10:11:48am

Who could have predicted Truth Social’s IPO would have some shady beginnings?

Mastodon

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Apr 3, 2024 • 10:13:11am

re: #330 Captain Ron

But it’s legal for these businesses to massacre their entire primary producing work force in order to protect themselves.
/

And where else will they find workers who will work for chicken feed?

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 10:14:38am

re: #384 No Malarkey!

I updated it. Please include Virginia. I am thankful I am at home right now.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 10:24:44am

A tornado watch has been issued for parts of Delaware, Maryland, North Carolina and Virginia until 7 PM EDT pic.twitter.com/qWgX3Rs1K5

— NWS Blacksburg (@NWSBlacksburg) April 3, 2024

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Eventual Carrion Apr 3, 2024 • 10:27:37am

re: #250 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Got it in three.

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Took me to 5/6. Really thought I had it on my 3rd guess, but Nooooo

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Vicious Babushka Apr 3, 2024 • 10:28:11am

Mastodon

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 10:29:12am

re: #391 Vicious Babushka

fair cop I would be scared to share a bathroom with a Dalek, that’s entirely valid

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 10:29:59am

re: #389 lawhawk

N Carolina too. OMG. This storm is a doozy.

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Teukka Apr 3, 2024 • 10:29:59am

re: #391 Vicious Babushka

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“Exterminate (dirt)! Exterminate (sweat)! Exterminate (soap suds)!”

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jaunte Apr 3, 2024 • 10:30:09am

About the Louisville Leopard Percussionists (Crazy Train xylophonists):
leopardmusic.org

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 10:32:48am

re: #394 Teukka

“Exterminate (dirt)! Exterminate (sweat)! Exterminate (soap suds)!”

That’s why they carry a plunger.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 10:34:26am

#FAFO - a sovcit 1/6 seditious treasonweasel sentenced to 7 years in prison for his 1/6 role.

A Washington man who led an attack on officers on Jan. 6 and represented himself at trial and would not concede that he was subject to the laws of the United States has been sentenced to seven years in federal prison. https://t.co/ONCnkhFauA

— NBC Politics (@NBCPolitics) April 3, 2024

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Dr Lizardo Apr 3, 2024 • 10:36:21am

It’s official: Disney shareholders shot down activist investor Nelson Peltz’s effort to win seats on the Mouse House’s board of directors. Investors voted to reelect all 12 of the company-backed board members, including CEO Bob Iger, ending the most expensive corporate proxy fight in history.
The voting results for Disney board candidates were announced Wednesday at the company’s 2024 meeting of shareholders, held virtually. Peltz, who heads investment firm Trian Partners, failed to get enough votes in his favor to clinch a board seat (as did Trian’s other nominee, ex-Disney Jay Rasulo).

Horacio Gutierrez, Disney’s senior EVP, chief legal and compliance officer, who oversaw the proceedings at the meeting, said that the preliminary vote tabulations showed Disney’s 12 directors had won reelection by a “substantial margin.” He added that the official vote counts will be disclosed in the subsequent meeting minutes.

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Peltz, in a recent interview, questioned Disney’s “woke” Marvel films featuring Black and women superheroes — including “Black Panther,” which grossed $1.35 billion at the worldwide box office — asking rhetorically, “Why do I have to have a Marvel [movie] that’s all women? Not that I have anything against women, but why do I have to do that? Why can’t I have Marvels that are both? Why do I need an all-Black cast?” Trian’s white paper had recommended that Disney’s board initiate a “comprehensive… review of studio operations and culture, including leadership, processes and workflow” and “prioritize new intellectual property to reignite the ‘flywheel’ and drive Disney’s long-term growth.”

variety.com

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 10:36:28am

Trump Media Saved By Russian-American Under Probe

“Donald Trump’s social media company Trump Media managed to go public last week only after it had been kept afloat in 2022 by emergency loans provided in part by a Russian-American businessman under scrutiny in a federal insider-trading and money-laundering investigation,” The Guardian reports.

“The former US president stands to gain billions of dollars - his stake is currently valued at about $4bn - from the merger between Trump Media and Technology Group and the blank-check company Digital World Acquisition Corporation, which took the parent company of Truth Social public.”

“But Trump Media almost did not make it to the merger after regulators opened a securities investigation into the merger in 2021 and caused the company to burn through cash at an extraordinary rate as it waited to get the green light for its stock market debut.”

politicalwire.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 10:36:30am

re: #397 lawhawk

#FAFO - a sovcit 1/6 seditious treasonweasel sentenced to 7 years in prison for his 1/6 role.

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He might figure out that he is subject to our laws now, or he might spin up new delusions to explain his incarceration.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 3, 2024 • 10:37:56am

South Africa to end captive lion breeding for hunting

This baffles me.

Much like the ownership of firearms has become entirely abstracted from the use to tool, hunting has become abstracted from the practice of hunting. There’s no risk, no skill, no sport.

We live in a world of petty little kings that can point to the Divine Right of Paper to justify their appetites: monarchy dissected into a line of products obtained from drive-through order window.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 10:39:14am

re: #400 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

He might figure out that he is subject to our laws now, or he might spin up new delusions to explain his incarceration.

Oh, who fucking cares. He’s going to be in prison for years, or until Trump decides to pardon 1/6 felons to continue his ongoing conspiracy to overthrow the government and install himself as unelected leader.

This fucker is the kind of guy that Trump and his base thinks are political prisoners, and not felons who assaulted cops. Cops who stand in photos with Trump don’t seem to care that Trump supports guys who assault cops.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 3, 2024 • 10:40:35am

re: #402 lawhawk

As DT said years ago to a crowd behind him. You are here to make me look good.

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lawhawk Apr 3, 2024 • 10:49:20am

Do nothing House GOP has decided a top priority is to give Trump a reach around by seeking to renamed Dulles Airport after Trump. That’s it. That’s all they can muster. They are there to suck up to Trump, obstruct functioning government, sabotage existing programs that help anyone but the rich and well to do (and mostly white males). They don’t have any intention of legislating or governing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 10:51:31am

re: #397 lawhawk

A Washington man who led an attack on officers on Jan. 6 and represented himself at trial and would not concede that he was subject to the laws of the United States has been sentenced to seven years in federal prison.

we need sovereign prisons: desert islands with no communication and minimal resources.

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 10:51:32am

re: #326 darthstar

She’s not a priestess, but she may add that to the menu on her OF site when it opens.

“defrocked” applies to judges as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light)) Apr 3, 2024 • 10:53:43am

re: #402 lawhawk

Cops who stand in photos with Trump don’t seem to care that Trump supports guys who assault cops.

They’ll let the Capital police take one on the nose as long as they are allowed to continue to operate with impunity

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Jay C Apr 3, 2024 • 10:54:27am

re: #373 Mattand

I hate this fucking world sometimes…

I can imagine a lot, but there is no universe where I can imagine a guy who wakes up in the morning and says, “You know what’s a good career choice? Global monkey torture.”

The Dixie Swastika and Trump flags prominently displayed in this guy’s picture might be a clue…

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Mike Lamb Apr 3, 2024 • 10:55:43am

re: #319 GlutenFreeJesus

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“You’re on birth control? That sucks!” said no 16 to 24 year old boy/man ever.

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 10:57:06am

re: #366 Decatur Deb

Goes back to the wildly innovative NY and Phillie Automats—there were little old ladies in hairnets stuffing meatloaf and coconut cream pies into those vending compartments from behind a wall.

god I miss those. I think one still exists in New York, right?

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steve_davis Apr 3, 2024 • 11:01:22am

re: #378 No Malarkey!

There are some sick motherfuckers breathing our air. Who the fuck gets off on watching monkeys getting tortured?

people who haven’t quite worked up to torturing and killing a child. Which is why if I came across them, I’d simply end their existence, because folks who enjoy that will with almost full certainty decide raping and killing a child will be enormously fulfilling.

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Decatur Deb Apr 3, 2024 • 11:13:49am

re: #410 steve_davis

Nope—last one closed more than a year ago, IIRC. H&H kept me alive when I lived there.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 11:23:28am

re: #412 Decatur Deb

PBS says the last one closed in 1991. That is more than a year ago.
checkplease.wttw.com

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Eventual Carrion Apr 3, 2024 • 11:54:51am

re: #346 darthstar

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So that’s about 1.5 billion today.

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Teddy's Person Apr 3, 2024 • 1:02:36pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

Stay gold, Pony Boy

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Apr 3, 2024 • 1:31:56pm

re: #379 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I didn’t even know that was an option. My school counselor never mentioned the field at all.

I know I am going to regret asking and please don’t be too…detailed… But why was this happening? What was their purpose for hurting monkeys?

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 3, 2024 • 1:36:51pm

re: #416 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I know I am going to regret asking and please don’t be too…detailed… But why was this happening? What was their purpose for hurting monkeys?

For sick kicks that only psychopaths enjoy, I assume.
I noped out at “global monkey torture.” If it’s not a band name, it’s just too bizarre for me to click on today.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Apr 3, 2024 • 2:41:02pm

re: #335 GlutenFreeJesus

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How the fuck he only got 5 years in prison.

Backstory. Warning: This avoids really graphic description but still describes some of the worst depravity I have ever heard of.
BBC: Hunting the monkey torturers

The level of abuse on YouTube, as bad as it had been, had not prepared [undercover investigator] Kapetanich for the private world of Telegram, where monkeys were known as “tree rats” and no idea for torturing them was too extreme.
Ape’s Cage contained about 400 people. The cast of characters was a mixture of the strange and — even stranger — the seemingly normal, all known to one another by their screen names. There was the Torture King, who had invited Kapetanich in; there was “Sadistic”, a gas station attendant and grandmother in rural Alabama; there was “Bones”, a former US Air Force airman from Texas with a big collection of guns; and “Champei”, who caused chaos and infighting in every group he joined. There was “Trevor”, who couldn’t contribute during daytime hours because, “no phone at work, nuclear stuff”.

And it wasn’t just Americans, there were dedicated members in Europe and Australia. Among the cruellest contributors to the group was “The Immolator”, a 35-year-old woman who loved birds and lived with her parents in the English midlands.

McCartney, the monster who was just convicted, has a swastika tattoo in addition to his pictured Trump swag.

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