Video: Chris Hayes on Arizona’s Monstrous Near-Total Abortion Ban, Based on a Law Written By a Child Rapist in 1864

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Chris Hayes shines a light on the absolutely horrifying history of the Arizona Supreme Court’s total abortion ban, based on a law from1864. That’s not a typo. They’re trying to drag the country back 160 years, to a time before Arizona was even a state.

And the men who wrote this law were monsters; child molesters and sexual predators.

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122 comments
1
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2024 • 10:56:36am

This is the Genie the GOP have released from the bottle. Let it consume them alive

2
Dangerman  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:00:13am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What two consenting adults do for fun in private and at their own expense is really nobody’s business.

The upcoming trial has little to do with that, merely with the manner in which the payments for her services (and silence about them) were rendered.

yes, what they do mostly mostly doesnt matter. as long as it’s legal and consensual. mostly

a large part of the president’s job (congress too) consists of judgment calls and decision making. which they’re supposed to be doing on our behalf.

for that reason, a candidate’s behavior, character and past judgment can reasonably be called into question when deciding whether to vote for them or not.

3
Dangerman  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:04:07am

Panic:

Trump urged his followers to support his social media app Truth Social, as its parent company’s stock continues to sink lower,” CNBC reports.

4
Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:04:38am

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

5
Nerdy Fish  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:05:07am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

Oh, SHIT. He’s not going to be happy.

6
PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:06:03am

re: #5 Nerdy Fish

ketchup on the walls in 3. 2. 1.

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Unabogie  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:07:23am

He sure is a master of business!

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:08:14am

Make Penny Stocks Great again!

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dat_said  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:10:18am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

I don’t know whether or not to root for below $17.50 on Tuesday

Highly diluting “bonus” 40M share issuance if the stock can remain above $17.50 for 20 of 30 days. (Counting the March 26 merger day, the number on April 12 would be 18.)

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:13:38am

re: #8 Dave In Austin

Make Penny Stocks Great again!

What else are you going to do with a company valued at 4.5 billion on IPO but has the revenue of an average Subway franchise?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:14:17am

re: #9 dat_said

Probably a typo, they meant “bogus 40M share issuance”.

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b.d.  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:14:51am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

That far left, woke, liberal media rag Forbes?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:15:44am

re: #12 b.d.

That far left, woke, liberal media rag Forbes?

Chinese CP owned, according to Freepers. (For Real)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:17:05am

re: #2 Dangerman

for that reason, a candidate’s behavior, character and past judgment can reasonably be called into question when deciding whether to vote for them or not.

In normal cases and for normal people that applies, but true MAGAts love DJT for the very reason that he is an arrogant, obnoxious and unapologetic bastard.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:17:12am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

John Barron unavailable for comment.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:18:36am

re: #14 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

In normal cases and for normal people that applies, but true MAGAts love DJT for the very reason that he is an unapologetic bastard.

Who promotes the racist philosophy and the misogyny that motivate them.

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Jay C  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:19:21am

re: #11 Decatur Deb

Probably a typo, they meant “bogus 40M share issuance”.

“Bogus”, “Bonus”: It’s a Donald Trump project: the terms are synonymous (and probably spelled out in the fine print).

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:21:17am

Charles, here’s link to a vid with just the AZ segment

The ‘unbelievable’ story behind Arizona’s 1864 abortion ban

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:22:26am

re: #3 Dangerman

Panic:

Trump urged his followers to support his social media app Truth Social, as its parent company’s stock continues to sink lower,” CNBC reports.

Zero potential for growth. The people who want to be part of that shitshow are already there.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:23:14am

GOP scaremongering - Biden’s going to take your home appliances away from you.

Jared Moskowitz , D-wiseass, offers an amendment to the GOP bill:

Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) offers an amendment that would “commission a study to determine the number of appliances confiscated by the Biden-Harris administration”

Here’s a hint - no appliances will be confiscated. The GOP fearmongering doesn’t care, but it will make it harder for people to deal with climate change, and make it more expensive to operate their homes (the appliances the GOP wants to keep on the market will be less efficient and pollute more).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:23:28am

It really is appalling to think that one rich asshole basically OWNS the Supreme Court of the United States.

Like…think about how seriously fucked up that is.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:26:03am

re: #18 Randall Gross

Thanks, I replaced it.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:28:34am

Setting the age of consent at 10:

“Deeply rooted in this nation’s history.”

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:35:13am

Do I need to point out that abortion is also “deeply rooted in this nation’s history”?

It wasn’t illegal at all, anywhere, until the mid-1800’s. Benjamin Franklin even included an abortifacient recipe in one of his books?

npr.org

“[The book] starts to prescribe basically all of the best-known herbal abortifacients and contraceptives that were circulating at the time,” Farrell said. “It’s just sort of a greatest hits of what 18th-century herbalists would have given a woman who wanted to end a pregnancy early.”

“It’s very explicit, very detailed, [and] also very accurate for the time in terms of what was known … for how to end a pregnancy pretty early on.”

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:36:42am

Local entitled terrorist-asshole throws deadly tantrum:

The 18-wheeler that crashed into the building was stolen, according to Houston television station ABC13, which cited DPS officials. The station also reported the collision caused more than a dozen injuries, with three people having been flown to a hospital in critical condition.
…….
Brenham radio station KWHI, citing the Washington County Sheriff’s Office, reported that the 18-wheeler was stolen in nearby Chappell Hill and that its driver intentionally crashed into the DPS office over the recent denial of a commercial driver’s license application. The driver was being pursued by local authorities at the time of the crash and was arrested immediately thereafter, the radio station reported.
houstonpublicmedia.org

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:39:31am

re: #25 jaunte

@blueheronfarm.bsky.social

Sorry to the people who were hurt, but also thank you to them for not letting this man be behind the wheel on the regular. 😬

(Just up the road from us, as are so many fucked up things.)

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:39:36am

Lauren Weinstein. 3h
@lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein….
I STRONGLY agree with #Google about the CJPA: Google starts testing removing news links in protest of California Journalism Preservation Act - blog.google products/news/cali…

Karl Auerbach
@karlauerbach@sfba.social
@lauren I would more strongly agree with you if Google were not using intermediary google.com URLs to redirect every view of a news piece via a redirect through Google’s own tracking servers.

If Google were simply providing direct URLs to the news providers I would have more support for Google’s position.

But what Google providing is a link to Google that then provides another link to the actual news source. It is that double link - clearly intended to gather tracking data - to which I am objecting.

But as it stands, Google is using the news writings of others more as a form of user tracking than as a digital form of library card catalog.

Lauren Weinstein
@lauren@mastodon.laurenwei…
@karlauerbach Years ago I was concerned about this. However, as years went by (and especially as I gained insight into the analytics during those times I worked inside Google) | now realize that not having a way to determine what users actually are choosing to view makes ranking and determinations of the most useful content essentially impossible.

If you just throw up direct links you get ZERO feedback. You can’t tell if one source is viewed a million times a day or zero. This makes for a terrible user experience. Google Search is not supposed to be a card catalog! Yahoo tried that long ago and it rapidly became useless.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:44:17am

re: #24 sagehen

I believe the Supreme Court chose to ignore that history.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:46:21am

re: #27 BeenHereAwhile

Maybe Lauren should learn about the original Google page ranking algorithm.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:52:17am

So much winning……

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:54:23am

re: #30 Dr. Matt

Check it again at 330 PM. I think that is a half hour before the closing bell.

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:54:54am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

Forbes magazine just emptied a chamber pot on DJT stock.

Sell Trump Media Stock (DJT) Now - An Implosion Is Likely
forbes.com

uber-liberal rag. nobody trusts them any more. sad.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:55:23am

Oh boy…… Mark Bankston, the attorney who took down Alex Jones has a list.

And shit, it’s a long son of a gun.

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dat_said  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:55:31am

Reuters: Exclusive: Synchron, a rival to Musk’s Neuralink, readies large-scale brain implant trial

“Rival” in the sense that they’re years ahead in development.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:58:11am
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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 11:59:11am

re: #20 lawhawk

GOP scaremongering - Biden’s going to take your home appliances away from you.

Jared Moskowitz , D-wiseass, offers an amendment to the GOP bill:

Here’s a hint - no appliances will be confiscated. The GOP fearmongering doesn’t care, but it will make it harder for people to deal with climate change, and make it more expensive to operate their homes (the appliances the GOP wants to keep on the market will be less efficient and pollute more).

First they came for our light bulbs.

Now our stoves, refrigerators, washers & dryers are at risk.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:04:33pm

re: #3 Dangerman

Panic:

Trump urged his followers to support his social media app Truth Social, as its parent company’s stock continues to sink lower,” CNBC reports.

Rando: “Ask not what your country can do for you but how you can get a reverse mortgage to pay for my legal bills!”

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:04:47pm

re: #34 dat_said

Reuters: Exclusive: Synchron, a rival to Musk’s Neuralink, readies large-scale brain implant trial

“Rival” in the sense that they’re years ahead in development.

[Embedded content]

Is this the dystopian future we’ve been warned about?

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:06:21pm

re: #36 BeenHereAwhile

First they came for our light bulbs.

Now our stoves, refrigerators, washers & dryers are at risk.

Speaking of which, right now my Cub zt1 is too new, but next time it breaks down big time, I’mma gettin’ one of these

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:08:29pm

re: #34 dat_said

Reuters: Exclusive: Synchron, a rival to Musk’s Neuralink, readies large-scale brain implant trial

“Rival” in the sense that they’re years ahead in development.

[Embedded content]

They may be years ahead in development, but he got to brag about it first.

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:09:53pm

re: #36 BeenHereAwhile

First they came for our light bulbs.

Now our stoves, refrigerators, washers & dryers are at risk.

You can take my La Marzocco KB90 espresso machine when you pry it from my cold, coffee-stained fingers!

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:11:53pm

re: #38 sizzzzlerz

Is this the dystopian future we’ve been warned about?

[Embedded content]

I was thinking more like this….(might be NSFW, so in a spoiler tag)

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:12:14pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:13:23pm

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:14:36pm

re: #44 Charles

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

Severely handicapped people and children who saw a cartoon about a completely immersive implant-based VR system and can’t separate fantasy and reality.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:15:17pm

I can see it for severely handicapped people, but that’s not how this is being sold.

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:16:22pm
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Belafon  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:17:45pm

re: #44 Charles

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

That’s why you need a brain implant.

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:18:14pm

re: #44 Charles

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

He probably read too much Pournelle, Vinge, and Gibson — where the “cognoscenti” all have implants and can google from their brainz! (just think of the rev for google when they can pimp ads directly to our cortex’s !! Ohh the paradise this Earth will become!)

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dat_said  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:18:36pm

re: #46 Charles

I can see it for severely handicapped people, but that’s not how this is being sold.

Elon Musk is the one doing that selling. Not surprising.

However, there is real research going on by Synchron, BTI, and others, that are trying to address actual medical needs. The Neuralink/Elon shit really bothers me as it more than taints the efforts.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:19:31pm

re: #29 Belafon

Maybe Lauren should learn about the original Google page ranking algorithm.

You could ask him.

Dunno for sure - but given his history - suspect he is aware of evolving changes made to Google’s page ranking algorithm.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:19:56pm

re: #46 Charles

I can see it for severely handicapped people, but that’s not how this is being sold.

The article about Synchron makes it clear that they are recruiting patients who have motor impairment. Whatever Musk may be promoting, Synchron has a different audience.

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Belafon  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:22:06pm
A month later and John Mellencamp still isn’t having it folks.

If you go to his show, you are not the show. Let the man perform, and if you don’t … well, that happened last month in Toledo and what happened after went viral.

Video shared to TikTok shows Mellencamp telling the crowd a story about his grandmother when someone shouts, “Play some music.”

The crowd groaned and seemed to disagree with the heckler, but that didn’t seem to matter too much to Mellencamp. He paused for a moment and then he let it out.

“What do you think I’ve been doing you (expletive),” the singer responded.

He then waived his finger in the air.

“Here’s the thing man, you don’t know me,” he said. “You don’t (expletive) know me.”

He then instructed his people to “find this guy and let me see him after the show.”

After another fan said something, he told the crowd he could stop the show and go home.

“Tell you what I’m going to do, since you have been so wonderful, I’m going to cut about 10 songs out of the show,” he said.

Mellencamp then began singing his hit, “Jack and Diane,” before stopping just seconds in and saying, “You know what? Show’s over.”

He then walked off stage.

The Toledo Blade said he did return to the stage about five minutes later and performed several more songs for the crowd.

pennlive.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:23:25pm

re: #49 Randall Gross

He probably read too much Pournelle, Vinge, and Gibson — where the “cognoscenti” all have implants and can google from their brainz! (just think of the rev for google when they can pimp ads directly to our cortex’s !! Ohh the paradise this Earth will become!)

You do that with an implant in your neck to pick up nerve impulses from a user taught to speak to the machine without speaking aloud, and display the output on glasses or project onto the retina from a device on the nose. Wires in your brain are more of a problem than a solution in most cases.

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dat_said  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:24:22pm

re: #52 Hecuba’s daughter

The article about Synchron makes it clear that they are recruiting patients who have motor impairment. Whatever Musk may be promoting, Synchron has a different audience.

This is why I posted the Synchron article - to communicate what real benefit there can be and the current status.

The crap from Elon and all the fanboys and media praise about his vision of playing Pong with the mind really grinds me. Synchron and others are trying to take decades of knowledge to help paralyzed people move robotic arms or nonverbal folks to communicate and then Elon ….

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:28:12pm

re: #44 Charles

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

BRAAIIINNSS!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:28:12pm

I’ve been watching for another delaying tactic from the malevolent cantaloupe, but nothing so far today. Trump’s trial may actually start on Monday.

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TedStriker  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:29:50pm

re: #57 Charles

I’ve been watching for another delaying tactic from the malevolent cantaloupe, but nothing so far today. Trump’s trial may actually start on Monday.

Hopefully, but it’s still a hour to a hour-and-a-half till COB Eastern Time.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:31:49pm

re: #39 Randall Gross

Speaking of which, right now my Cub zt1 is too new, but next time it breaks down big time, I’mma gettin’ one of these

Since we downsized to a smaller house and yard, I’ve replaced all my ICE yard tools (mower, edger, weed eater, leaf blower, & chain saws) with battery power. Going into my 3rd year using the original batteries.

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lawhawk  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:35:59pm

re: #46 Charles

There’s legit research in getting people who were severely injured or sickened by disease that caused motor skill issues or communications issues/aphasias that could benefit from having some kind of neural link to be able to better communicate and interact with the world, but the charlatans will always try to bleed the marks dry with exaggerated claims and profess solutions to problems no one even thinks are actually problems (like being able to play games or go VR while driving, etc.).

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cat-tikvah  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:38:33pm

re: #48 Belafon

That’s why you need a brain implant.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:40:55pm

ARRGGGHH

Apple (AAPL) Readies M4 Chip Mac Line, Including New MacBook Air and Mac Pro - Bloomberg

Apple Inc., aiming to boost sluggish computer sales, is preparing to overhaul its entire Mac line with a new family of in-house processors designed to highlight artificial intelligence.

The company, which released its first Macs with M3 chips five months ago, is already nearing production of the next generation — the M4 processor — according to people with knowledge of the matter. The new chip will come in at least three main varieties, and Apple is looking to update every Mac model with it, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the plans haven’t been announced.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:41:14pm

If you drive 35 in a 35 zone you won’t get pulled over.

You know who will?

The car behind you.

Ask me how I know

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:42:59pm

re: #41 sizzzzlerz

You can take my La Marzocco KB90 espresso machine when you pry it from my cold, coffee-stained fingers!

Your espresso machine’s incandescent heating element is suspect. Pls register it immediately - under penalty of law - at your nearest DPS office.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:54:00pm

re: #47 darthstar

[Embedded content]

It’d be great in a bar fight.

Hit someone wearing that ring, it’s gonna leave a mark.

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William Lewis  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:54:18pm

Lucifer tends to have really powerful season finale episodes. The one for Season 4 certainly was. Very powerful ending. Wonderful use of music too.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:56:00pm

re: #49 Randall Gross

He probably read too much Pournelle, Vinge, and Gibson — where the “cognoscenti” all have implants and can google from their brainz! (just think of the rev for google when they can pimp ads directly to our cortex’s !! Ohh the paradise this Earth will become!)

Spider Robinson - Pleasure, it’s the only way to die.

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:57:38pm

FL blocks heat protections for workers just as summer is about to start
npr.org

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 12:59:18pm

re: #67 BeenHereAwhile

Spider Robinson - Pleasure, it’s the only way to die.

Callahan’s Saloon or bust

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:00:00pm

re: #68 Randall Gross

FL blocks heat protections for workers just as summer is about to start
npr.org

That’s comic book villain territory

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:01:06pm

re: #69 Scottish Dragon

Callahan’s Saloon or bust

We accept $1.00 dollar bills only.

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TedStriker  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:06:04pm

re: #65 BeenHereAwhile

It’d be great in a bar fight.

Hit someone wearing that ring, it’s gonna leave a mark.

Al. Bundy/ Ed O’Neil, Pinky ring punch, Dutch 1991

(sorry for the shaky cam clip, it was the only one of this scene I found on YT)

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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:08:34pm

re: #72 TedStriker

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Funny scene in a movie that otherwise really sucked so bad. When John Hugues bragged he wrote screenplays in a weekend, it was painfully obvious that he really had.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:10:36pm

re: #70 Scottish Dragon

That’s comic book villain territory

Exactly the same comic villain that’s been helping people drop dead in poor countries for the last eighty years: the one that asks how many people, of what kind, are you willing to maim or kill to keep things functioning as normal?

This law is just a new derivation of an answer that makes the set of acceptable dead people a little larger.

In a few years, the set will get larger again.

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:11:59pm
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Scottish Dragon  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:14:15pm

OK, i’m out for the day. See everyone later :)

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:15:38pm

re: #74 The Ghost of a Flea

Exactly the same comic villain that’s been helping people drop dead in poor countries for the last eighty years: the one that asks how many people, of what kind, are you willing to maim or kill to keep things functioning as normal?

This law is just a new derivation of an answer that makes the set of acceptable dead people a little larger.

In a few years, the set will get larger again.

As we move to a hotter equatorial region climate we must do better. Our Southern state society will change whether they want to or not because they will have to. How painful it becomes is entirely dependent on how many like DeSantis that they put in office.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:16:22pm

I have not been watching but was the closing bell on DT’s stocks?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:17:29pm

re: #75 DodgerFan1988

Slappy T loves to slam the door that let him get where he is

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aatharuv  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:19:18pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel ✅

I have not been watching but was the closing bell on DT’s stocks?

It was up 20 cents I think. Not a recovery by any stretch of the imagination.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:19:46pm
In a 2020 study, climate scientist Michelle Tigchellar and her colleagues looked at the heat risks to agricultural workers across the country. Under good working conditions—with regular breaks, shade, and water access—most workers, they found, can stay relatively safe up to a heat index of about 83 degrees Fahrenheit. The risks build quickly beyond that threshold. In one Florida county, they analyzed, working conditions are already hotter than that for 113 days out of the year. That number could rise to 148 days if global temperatures rise further.

The law above exists because Florida tomatoes and citrus depend on the cheapest labor possible with the least worker protections.

If you’ve ever read “Tomatoland” Florida farm conditions are so close to slavery that they periodically become slavery-enough for someone to get busted under slavery statutes. Workers…almost all immigrant labor…are corralled into busted trailers they pay their employers to rent, are forced into fields freshly sprayed with pesticide and herbicide with little proctection from contact or inhalation, and are regularly put into circumstances of debt and scrip-issuing that recall “Sixteen Tons.”

Heat protections include working hours and recognition of conditions in which labor can’t take place, and that simply will not hunt for landowners.

re: #77 Randall Gross

As we move to a hotter equatorial region climate we must do better. Our Southern state society will change whether they want to or not because they will have to. How painful it becomes is entirely dependent on how many like DeSantis that they put in office.

Depressingly true.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:20:55pm

re: #80 aatharuv

You are correct; that is no recovery.

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TedStriker  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:22:42pm

re: #82 PhillyPretzel ✅

You are correct; that is no recovery.

Not even a dead kitten bounce.

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:24:14pm

re: #78 PhillyPretzel ✅

He’s continued to break the law all afternoon:

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump making potentially false and misleading statements about Trump Media as the stock plunges

Trump Makes FATAL MOVE as Stock PLUNGES

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:25:06pm

I just saw the cutest thing. I have my trash can turned over so no water can get into it. There is a little indentation that has a little water in it. I just saw a sparrow take a bath in it.

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:27:17pm

re: #81 The Ghost of a Flea

The law above exists because Florida tomatoes and citrus depend on the cheapest labor possible with the least worker protections.

If you’ve ever read “Tomatoland” Florida farm conditions are so close to slavery that they periodically become slavery-enough for someone to get busted under slavery statutes. Works…almost all immigrant labor…are corralled into busted trailers they pay their employers to rent, are forced into fields freshly sprayed with pesticide and herbicide with little proctection from contact or inhalation, and are regularly put into circumstances of debt and scrip-issuing that recall “Sixteen Tons.”

Heat protections include working hours and recognition of conditions in which labor can’t take place, and that simply will not hunt for landowners.

Depressingly true.

If you want a real education on what’s happening now, there’s a short rail tour you can take through Dole’s banana plantations. I don’t recommend it for anyone who falls into clinical depression when encountering the inhumanity of colonialist capitalism, but it did kinda wreck a vacation I took once. I still have some bad dreams about kids who live in the heat with burlap sacks for doors and pitbulls chained to their rotting porches for security.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:30:17pm

re: #44 Charles

Who exactly is clamoring for brain implants?

JFC. This shit is getting on my last nerve.

I doubt your pun was intended, but I certainly approve of it. 😎

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:31:37pm

re: #66 William Lewis

Lucifer tends to have really powerful season finale episodes. The one for Season 4 certainly was. Very powerful ending. Wonderful use of music too.

I really enjoyed Lucifer. It was a bit weird though in Season 2 and 3 when it sort of became a procedural. The Netflix era of the show (season 4 on) when it got back to the narrative style of season 1 was a lot of fun.

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:31:49pm

Interesting series of posts :
The great tidal earthquake hypothesis test part IV: Can tides warn us of upcoming large earthquakes?
earthquakeinsights.substack.com

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darthstar  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:35:51pm

Back up at the groove pit for the weekend. Won’t be able to come back up over the next two due to obligations (Apr 20 - free truckload of waste dump day - cleaning out the garage! and April 27 - Seder dinner with close friends).

Amazon delivery of my new 24v 10” chainsaw arrived just after I got here. Another hour of charging and I’ll be taking out a giant oleander from the front yard. It’s pretty, and it’s green, but it blocks a mulberry tree from view and we plan to put another fruit tree out front later.

Listening to a little bluegrass with the dogs napping beside me. Missus is on a conference call in the bedroom in her favorite chair. This is nice.

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A Cranky One  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:39:39pm

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:39:51pm

WTF:

Andrea Chalupa @AndreaC… •23h
It’s well known that evangelicals like
Mike Johnson support Israel, because they believe, according to the bible, that Israel will be destroyed in the final battle of good vs evil.
Unfortunately, many believe that battle includes Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as part of God’s plan

Andrea Chalupa @AndreaC..•23h ••
Here’s a video of Pat Robertson, one of the most consequential evangelical leaders to build white Christian nationalists into a political force, taking over the GOP. He claims the path to Israel’s destruction begins with Russia’s destruction of Ukraine

YouTube: (You can look it up - I don’t wanna)

‘God Is Getting Ready to Do Something Amazing’:

CBN Founder Pat Robertson made a special appearance on The 700 Club Monday to talk about Russia’s shocking invasion of Ukraine and how it all might fit into …
4:05 PM • 4/11/24 From Earth • 61K Views

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:43:44pm

re: #86 Randall Gross

Of course now that I think about it, there’s probably kids still living like that in some of our gulf coast states as well.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Apr 12, 2024 • 1:57:28pm

This is likely the result a personal grudge by some psycho. If it has anything to do with the DPS’s high profile role in Abbott’s border atrocities, though, we will never hear the end of it. We may not hear the end of it anyway, since the usual suspects are already declaring it a “terrorist act” by open borders advocates.
Big rig plows into Texas Department of Public Safety office in apparent “intentional” act, injuring multiple people, officials say

A big rig plowed into a Texas Department of Public Safety office in an apparent “intentional” act, injuring multiple people, officials said Friday.

The 18-wheeler was stolen and crashed into the office in Brenham, about 75 miles west of Houston, in a “deliberate, heinous act,” said Texas state Sen. Lois Kolkhorst in a statement on social media.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:00:15pm

re: #92 BeenHereAwhile

WTF:

Andrea Chalupa @AndreaC… •23h
It’s well known that evangelicals like
Mike Johnson support Israel, because they believe, according to the bible, that Israel will be destroyed in the final battle of good vs evil.
Unfortunately, many believe that battle includes Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as part of God’s plan

Andrea Chalupa @AndreaC..•23h ••
Here’s a video of Pat Robertson, one of the most consequential evangelical leaders to build white Christian nationalists into a political force, taking over the GOP. He claims the path to Israel’s destruction begins with Russia’s destruction of Ukraine

YouTube: (You can look it up - I don’t wanna)

‘God Is Getting Ready to Do Something Amazing’:

CBN Founder Pat Robertson made a special appearance on The 700 Club Monday to talk about Russia’s shocking invasion of Ukraine and how it all might fit into …
4:05 PM • 4/11/24 From Earth • 61K Views

Hold up.

Isn’t Pat Robertson dead?

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:01:35pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Update: DPS is saying the perp is a man who was denied a CDL earlier:
nbcnews.com

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Markm1960  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:06:36pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Hold up.

Isn’t Pat Robertson dead?

He just mostly dead.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:07:46pm

re: #95 Eclectic Cyborg

Hold up.

Isn’t Pat Robertson dead?

Fits into my definition of “special appearance”.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:07:53pm

re: #92 BeenHereAwhile

‘God Is Getting Ready to Do Something Amazing’: CBN Founder Pat Robertson on Russia and Prophecy

Sacred ghoul. A type that has been around for decades: very excited at the idea that the world only exists as a stage upon which White American Jesus will enact a bloody spectacle to please a clapping audience of Branson, Missouri holiday-goers. People that don’t need jihad because they view the action of the US Army…and it’s various dicators and squads of contras…as driven by divine intent.

(As always, remember that they like cops and troops because they see them as killers working toward their ends. They’re mad at the military now because the military turns out to be full of people who don’t want to just keep killing everybody that they’re are scared of. They want to fix the Army by making it joyful in its exercise of violence, and unaccountable to men because the mandate to kill the strange is divine.)

But what of the secular ghouls who’ve used the entire Middle East as a cat’s paw because they don’t have a prophecy but they do have a vision in which human beings are less important than who controls oil flow? The Rapture doesn’t explain the endless number of secular conservatives, centrists, and liberals who also think constantly fucking with people, selling arms, propping up dictators, and a 25-year cycle of knifing the Kurds in the back is somehow going to result in lasting stability.

Because the latter are just as much context for the plight of Israel and Palestine as the former…far more so, when you look at how fundamentalists got money and power, or who decides how much ordinance regional right-wing dictators have to chuck about.

I mean, it keeps not working, but a what are dead people and a bunch of South Asian indentured servants compared to the convenience of an F-150?

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:10:45pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Update: DPS is saying the perp is a man who was denied a CDL earlier:
nbcnews.com

This will help.

/

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Decatur Deb  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:14:06pm

re: #97 Markm1960

He just mostly dead.

Moulderin’ in his grave.

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wrenchwench  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:21:01pm

Off to work. here’s my partridge. Wordle 1,028 4/6*

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨
⬜🟩🟨⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

With a whiff and a near whiff. Nothing like nerdyfishy’s masterpiece birb.

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:24:09pm

re: #99 The Ghost of a Flea

The Rapture doesn’t explain the endless number of secular conservatives, centrists, and liberals who also think constantly fucking with people, selling arms, propping up dictators, and a 25-year cycle of knifing the Kurds in the back is somehow going to result in lasting stability.

there’s a version of realpolitik that values the status quo over anything else because of a belief that the known is better (and more stable) than the unknown.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:24:38pm

re: #36 BeenHereAwhile

First they came for our light bulbs.

Now our stoves, refrigerators, washers & dryers are at risk.

They want us to live in lean-tos in the forest and wipe our butts with dried leaves…

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sagehen  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:29:51pm

Tonight on Bill Maher:

William Shatner - Piers Morgan - Gillian Tett

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:31:35pm

Watching Fallout - it’s really well done. Dialog is quite…amusing.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:32:55pm

re: #103 KGxvi

there’s a version of realpolitik that values the status quo over anything else because of a belief that the known is better (and more stable) than the unknown.

As with the law in Florida discussed above, the outcome of this always amounts to a smaller and smaller raft of “status quo.”

It’s almost like that NIemoller poem. You know, the one that people often omit the first two lines of because the raft of who suffers under Nazism can’t be too big.

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(((Archangel1)))  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:33:00pm

Today’s unexpected Wordle birdie is dedicated to the relative whose call made it possible…
Wordle 1,028 3/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:41:57pm

re: #107 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s almost like that Niemoller poem. You know, the one that people often omit the first two lines of because the raft of who suffers under Nazism can’t be too big.

US and Western European history still blithely plays down and often outright ignores the role of Communists and Socialists in the anti-Nazi opposition.

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Dangerman  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:42:17pm

re: #57 Charles

I’ve been watching for another delaying tactic from the malevolent cantaloupe, but nothing so far today. Trump’s trial may actually start on Monday.

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Mattand  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:43:44pm

re: #105 sagehen

Tonight on Bill Maher:

William Shatner - Piers Morgan - Gillian Tett

Pass, mostly because it involves Bill Maher.

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Unabogie  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:46:29pm

This made me think of James Comer dragging Hunter Biden in to testify. Was it an option for Hunter to tell them to pound sand, like Leonard Leo is doing here?

thedailybeast.com

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Mattand  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:46:56pm

re: #49 Randall Gross

He probably read too much Pournelle, Vinge, and Gibson — where the “cognoscenti” all have implants and can google from their brainz! (just think of the rev for google when they can pimp ads directly to our cortex’s !! Ohh the paradise this Earth will become!)

Jerry Pournelle was a regular on the This Week in Tech podcast for years. I only knew him as a really old sci-fi writer who would claim to have basically invented the iPad in every appearance, because of some doo-dad he made up in one of his books.

I had no idea what a right wing freak he was until I started hanging around this blog.

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KGxvi  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:49:20pm

re: #57 Charles

I’ve been watching for another delaying tactic from the malevolent cantaloupe, but nothing so far today. Trump’s trial may actually start on Monday.

At this point, short of being admitted to the hospital, there isn’t anything he can do. And even that probably wouldn’t stop jury selection from proceeding.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:49:44pm

re: #103 KGxvi

there’s a version of realpolitik that values the status quo over anything else because of a belief that the known is better (and more stable) than the unknown.

Normalcy bias causes people to become so used to watching the inferno burn others up that they will perceive its absence as a threat to themselves, and then desperately try to relight the fire when it goes out.

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:51:28pm

Stormy Daniels
@StormyDaniels

Not true. I wouldn’t sell Bibles

Corey
@Freedomandequa5 •5h

Stormy Daniels is a parasite that would sell anything for a dollar

11:30 AM • 4/12/24 • 508K Views

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 12, 2024 • 2:59:55pm

re: #115 goddamnedfrank

Normalcy bias causes people to become so used to watching the inferno burn others up that they will perceive its absence as a threat to themselves, and then desperately try to relight the fire when it goes out.

“Normalcy” is a child molester passing an anti-abortion law in 1864

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jaunte  Apr 12, 2024 • 3:00:54pm

re: #94 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Some earlier reports said his application for a commercial driver’s license had been turned down at that location the day before.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 12, 2024 • 3:06:29pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is the Genie the GOP have released from the bottle. Let it consume them alive

My name is Joe Biden, and I approve this message.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 12, 2024 • 3:07:14pm

re: #119 Ace Rothstein

I second the message.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 12, 2024 • 3:21:07pm

re: #53 Belafon

in the mid 90s, I saw Smashing Pumpkins at a cool small venue in Houston. 4 songs in, some idiot (from my hometown!) threw a drink at Billy Corgan. Corgan stopped the song, admonished the asshole that threw the drink, and the band left the stage and the show was over. They never came back on and I don’t blame them one bit.

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Randall Gross  Apr 12, 2024 • 5:48:53pm

re: #59 BeenHereAwhile

Since we downsized to a smaller house and yard, I’ve replaced all my ICE yard tools (mower, edger, weed eater, leaf blower, & chain saws) with battery power. Going into my 3rd year using the original batteries.

That’s what I am doing as well, I’m hoping many more are headed this direction soon.


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