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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 10:40:43am
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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:49:22am

@helenkennedy.bsky.social
The widespread mocking of the red tie uniform has not deterred these mooks. They apparently cannot be embarrassed.

If I were organizing counter demos I’d get a crowd to wear dark suits and red ties and march around behind them.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 10:57:08am

re: #2 jaunte

It’s The Red Tie Gang, again.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 10:58:24am

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dat_said  May 16, 2024 • 11:01:49am

re: #326 Lancelot Link Returns!

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Video

Random memory - Once, at the 400 Bar in West Bank (Mpls) between a couple of Alex Chilton’s sets, I had an extended chat with Steve Greenberg who created/produced Lipps Inc.

My other brush with fame is that I once dated a woman who sang some of the vocals for the “This is not your father’s Oldsmobile” commercials back in the way late 80’s

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:02:04am

Rando

The point of the debate isn’t who has the better quips. It’s to get us focused on the fact that it’s going to be one of these two elderly men who has already been President. Nobody else. Stop kidding yourself.

And the bet is, with that choice forced upon it, the American Electorate will stop flirting with has-beens and never-wases—and remember just how awful a President Donald Trump always was.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 16, 2024 • 11:02:13am

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 16, 2024 • 11:05:20am
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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:07:29am
Garland was facing the possibility of being held in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over the recordings in the face of subpoenas from the House Judiciary Committee and the House Oversight and Accountability Committee. Biden’s action* effectively precludes any criminal prosecution of Garland for failing to comply with the subpoenas.”

Link

“There was no legitimate legislative purpose” for the Oversight Committee requesting those recordings.

PS they do have the transcripts.

* asserting exec priv

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  May 16, 2024 • 11:10:28am

‘sup?

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:12:11am

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 11:13:03am

Ricardo J. Salvador
@cadwego.bsky.social

Billionaires Lynda and Stewart Resnick, owners of the world’s largest pistachio and almond grower, Fiji Water, Pom pomegranate juice and Justin wines, and Teleflora flower service, are suing to roll back legal protections for farmworkers.

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Backwoods Sleuth  May 16, 2024 • 11:14:10am
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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 11:14:40am

re: #12 jaunte

Ricardo J. Salvador
@cadwego.bsky.social

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BOYCOTT!!

What else do they own?

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 11:18:26am

re: #12 jaunte

As I previously wrote, while it might be churlish to suggest that the gift was devoid of genuine altruistic impulses, it would be naive to assume that altruism is the whole story.

A few years earlier, the Resnicks’ Justin Vineyards had been caught clear-cutting an oak forest near Paso Robles to make room for new grape plantings. The work was halted by San Luis Obispo County authorities, and the firm eventually agreed to donate the 380-acre parcel to a land conservancy.

Although the Resnicks say they are “dedicated to our role as environmental stewards,” their Fiji Water subsidiary looks like the antithesis of environmental sustainability. It profits from transporting water in plastic bottles more than 5,500 miles from the island nation to California and beyond, places that already have abundant water.

Wonderful’s pistachio and almond orchards have complicated efforts to apportion water among the state’s competing stakeholders. Because the trees require watering in wet years or dry, their acreage can’t be fallowed during dry spells.

That has made the water demand of the agricultural sector less flexible, and arguably has contributed to the devastating decline of the state’s salmon fishery and the drying out of rivers and streams that once supported a diverse population of fish and birds.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 11:19:11am

re: #14 wrenchwench

Big contributors to Democrats. Proving for some people above a certain level of wealth, what matters more than politics is maintaining position and getting more.
influencewatch.org

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 11:21:50am

“The Resnicks use at least 120 billion gallons a year, two-thirds on nuts, enough to supply San Francisco’s 852,000 residents for a decade.”
forbes.com

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2024 • 11:26:02am
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Unabogie  May 16, 2024 • 11:28:30am

re: #18 gocart mozart

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We don’t know the crime? It’s easy: he falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment.

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 11:28:46am

re: #16 jaunte

Big contributors to Democrats. Proving for some people above a certain level of wealth, what matters more than politics is maintaining position and getting more.
influencewatch.org

I want to wait until after the presidential election to start ragging on Democrats, but they’re pushing me. Oregon’s governor doesn’t come from money, that I can tell, but has been a big jerk at times.

Terri Lee Brown was released from Coffee Creek Correctional Facility after the Oregon Supreme Court found Gov. Tina Kotek’s order that sent her back to prison was unlawful

[…]

No apology from governor

The unusual case sheds light on the state’s penal system and shows how an error in judgment - even at the highest level of state government - can put a person in prison unlawfully. A spokesperson for Kotek previously said the governor would take the court’s ruling under consideration in future decisions.

As for Brown, no one from the governor’s office or state has contacted her to apologize.

“I’ve heard from not one person,” Brown said. “Nobody’s contacted me to say they’re sorry. It would mean a lot. Admit you’re wrong. Say you’re sorry. That goes a long way. It helps.”

[…]

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 11:28:51am

re: #16 jaunte

It’s also a reminder that liberalism has room within it for a lot of illiberality because it focuses on individual rights in a way that can be easily turned into a tool for increasing the power derived from property ownership.

Corporations are people because they’re bourgeois collectivism; unions are to be crushed because they propose that value comes from labor, and that’s a dangerous idea.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 11:28:58am

re: #18 gocart mozart

“Reeks” is a good collective noun for that red tied group.

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 11:29:59am

re: #11 Dangerman

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Also, Mark Cuban:

“I pay what I owe,” Cuban posted, emphasizing his commitment to contributing to the nation’s welfare. (Cuban revealed he had transferred $288 million to the IRS) “This country has done so much for me, I’m proud to pay my taxes every single year.”

The Dallas Mavericks owner and “Shark Tank” star has long said that “after military service, paying your taxes is the most patriotic thing we can do.”

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2024 • 11:30:06am
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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 11:31:15am

re: #19 Unabogie

We don’t know the crime? It’s easy: he falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment.

She said ‘the defendant does not know…’

He may have slept through that part.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:34:05am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 11:34:21am

re: #15 The Ghost of a Flea

I’ve never understood the thing with FIJI water.

It just tastes like purified water to me.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 11:34:58am

My firsts memories are of Suva.

The idea that some asshole would make water from one of few Pacific Islands that has sustainable fresh water into a commodity fetish is just disgusting, even moreso when you read about how saltwater infiltration is slowly killing the arable land.

There’s a lot of talk about the tragedy of the commons that steps over the far more common tragedy of turning everything into a marketable commodity. The step that ended the passenger pigeon wasn’t the last blast of birdshot, but the moment it was decided that they were a thing that could be bought cheap and sold cheap to the point that overproduction…just killing every damn one…was “logical.”

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Dave In Austin  May 16, 2024 • 11:35:39am

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:35:52am

re: #19 Unabogie

We don’t know the crime? It’s easy: he falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment.

They’re using that cause it was used against them with the Biden “impeachment”

They’re like tfg.
It’s the last thing they heard so it’s shiny

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:38:01am

re: #25 wrenchwench

She said ‘the defendant does not know…’

He may have slept through that part.

is he not competent to aid in his defense?
Does he not understand the charges against him?

If so that would be huge!!!

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Unabogie  May 16, 2024 • 11:38:49am

re: #20 wrenchwench

I want to wait until after the presidential election to start ragging on Democrats, but they’re pushing me. Oregon’s governor doesn’t come from money, that I can tell, but has been a big jerk at times.

This is horrifying. Most people who get stuck in the system don’t see a fraction of the help and deference we give to Donald Trump. All this woman needed was an advocate and someone to listen for five minutes. What a mess, and Kotek really needs to account for this and apologize.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 11:39:34am

re: #27 Eclectic Cyborg

I’ve never understood the thing with FIJI water.

It just tastes like purified water to me.

Bottled water is a pure example of Bourdieu’s idea of distinction: the water’s no different than a public water source and often comes from a public water source with no other processing; the added value comes entirely from the qualities attributed to it. You buy it to be distinguish yourself from other water drinkers: yours is a pure beverage, with a pedigree and a narrative.

It costs more money, it has to have some quality of “better” to it, after all.

Fiji water just achieved a particularly skillful version of this, combining exclusivity and exoticism and aesthetics.

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Jay C  May 16, 2024 • 11:42:35am

re: #12 jaunte

Ricardo J. Salvador
@cadwego.bsky.social

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JFC - The Resnicks.* I actually met them a couple of times: they owned the house next door to my mother’s: after she died (Mom), they bought the property for “expansion”.** I thought they were assholes then: not at all surprised that they would be taking the lead in promoting farmworker exploitation.

*AKA the Pistachio King and Queen of California.

** A couple of years after they bought it, the (no doubt well-insured) house burnt down in a remarkably evenly-contained fire, and they replaced it with a tennis court and parking lot. So much for the ancestral Estate…..

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2024 • 11:48:09am

re: #19 Unabogie

We don’t know the crime? It’s easy: he falsified business records to cover up a hush money payment.

And what makes that a felony is that the falsified business records also concealed illegal campaign contributions.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:49:32am

re: #34 Jay C

** A couple of years after they bought it, the (no doubt well-insured) house burnt down in a remarkably evenly-contained fire, and they replaced it with a tennis court and parking lot. So much for the ancestral Estate…..

what we in the trade call a ‘successful’ fire

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:50:10am

re: #35 No Malarkey!

And what makes that a felony is that the falsified business records also concealed illegal campaign contributions.

and the tax fraud

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danarchy  May 16, 2024 • 11:52:14am

re: #11 Dangerman

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Here is the problem with that quote. Berkshire Hathaway is one of the most profitable companies in the country. This is what I could find, but it is from 2022, don’t imagine it has changed too much. This is the top 10 that year.

Apple ($94 billion)
Berkshire Hathaway ($89 billion)
Alphabet ($76 billion)
Microsoft ($61 billion)
JP Morgan Chase ($48 billion)
Meta Platforms ($39 billion)
Amazon ($33 billion)
Bank of America ($31 billion)
ExxonMobil ($23 billion)
Fannie Mae ($22 billion)

So 5 billion was somewhere in the neighborhood of 6% for him. The list falls off pretty quickly. Are there even 800 companies that have $5 billion in profit in a year?

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danarchy  May 16, 2024 • 11:55:54am

re: #37 Dangerman

and the tax fraud

The prosecution never broached tax fraud during the trial. They are hanging their hat on campaign finance.

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 11:59:37am

re: #38 danarchy

Here is the problem with that quote. Berkshire Hathaway is one of the most profitable companies in the country. This is what I could find, but it is from 2022, don’t imagine it has changed too much. This is the top 10 that year.

Apple ($94 billion)
Berkshire Hathaway ($89 billion)
Alphabet ($76 billion)
Microsoft ($61 billion)
JP Morgan Chase ($48 billion)
Meta Platforms ($39 billion)
Amazon ($33 billion)
Bank of America ($31 billion)
ExxonMobil ($23 billion)
Fannie Mae ($22 billion)

So 5 billion was somewhere in the neighborhood of 6% for him. The list falls off pretty quickly. Are there even 800 companies that have $5 billion in profit in a year?

youre right about the actual math
i knew it when i read it - 800 companies’ tax bills cant float the US economy
i dont know what his number (800) has to be to reach the equivalent

as a metaphor though it still works. sorta

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 12:03:15pm

re: #29 Dave In Austin

It’s a new band:

Donnie and the Seditious Six

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danarchy  May 16, 2024 • 12:04:47pm

re: #40 Dangerman

youre right about the actual math
i knew it when i read it - 800 companies’ tax bills cant float the US economy
i dont know what his number (800) has to be to reach the equivalent

as a metaphor though it still works. sorta

I just find it amusing that he is sort of bragging about paying a whole 6% in taxes.

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DodgerFan1988  May 16, 2024 • 12:16:56pm


How to say you’re MAGA without saying you’re MAGA.

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 12:18:25pm

re: #42 danarchy

I just find it amusing that he is sort of bragging about paying a whole 6% in taxes.

Just checked online and for the latest quarter that ended in March, the effective tax rate for BH was 18% which is not too far off the nominal tax rate. It has been over 20% as recently as 2019. Can’t find any year where they made a profit and the rate was 6%.

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gocart mozart  May 16, 2024 • 12:19:42pm
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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 12:20:42pm

re: #43 DodgerFan1988

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How to say you’re MAGA without saying you’re MAGA.

Rich, Black woman who does not believe the face-eating panther party will ever eat her face.

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Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2024 • 12:24:06pm

Hard to believe I have to give up Gretchen Whitmer for this dangerous psychotic shitgoblin.

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2024 • 12:29:54pm

re: #45 gocart mozart

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silverdolphin  May 16, 2024 • 12:30:02pm

A Debate Hedge?

Someone wrote recently (and I am too tired to look it up) that Repblicans always think they are winning, even when behind, and democrats always act like they are losing, even when they are ahead (which is never enough).

Here we have proof of the latter. The early debate will make it easy to replace Biden if he crashes and burns. No worry about Trump being replaced if he does. Typical.

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Shropshire Slasher  May 16, 2024 • 12:30:04pm
Florida lawmakers on Friday voted to approve a $117.46 billion state budget for the upcoming fiscal year.

That budget will include a $10 billion surplus, $500 million set aside for paying off the state’s debt and implement another round of tax cuts aimed at easing financial burdens on Floridians.

The tax relief totals $1.5 billion. Of that, $500 million is for property insurance tax relief. Lawmakers are also bringing back the “Freedom” summer tax holiday in July.

There will also be a tax holiday for tools Sept. 1-7.

flvoicenews.com

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 12:30:17pm

It’s pretty dark that the defense of a con man who’s been documented to have lied more than 30,000 times while he was a national political figure (previous thousands of lies unrecorded) depends on painting a former close associate as a liar.

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2024 • 12:31:01pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Hard to believe I have to give up Gretchen Whitmer for this dangerous psychotic shitgoblin.

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Ron DeSantis: “Make Florida the Atlantic Ocean again!”

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Jay C  May 16, 2024 • 12:31:05pm

re: #36 Dangerman

what we in the trade call a ‘successful’ fire

Or also, as commonly referenced, “Jewish lightning“…

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 12:32:21pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

BOYCOTT!!

What else do they own?

…a whole bunch of Republican Politicians and Federalist Society judges…

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 12:33:25pm

Florida joins Texas in banning local heat protections for outdoor worker

When I cobble together terms like “the zone of unpersonhood” and “the right to not care” I’m trying to describe the heuristic that manifests over and over in policy like this.

This will maim and kill people, it is self evident in how it’s constructed that it will maim and kill people because it’s giving the people that license the maiming/killing preemptive legal cover…and in turn defining a class of laborer who can be harmed because their body is less valuable than their labor.

This bill isn’t an exclusive, one-off thing, though; it’s part of a whole body of legislation that defines de facto distinctions in the worth of human beings in ways that should trigger the de jure provisions of civil liberty and human rights that are the supposed basis of our law.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 12:33:50pm

DeSantis halts plywood, fuel, toilet paper, bread sales prior to hurricane, advising everyone to “just calm down.”

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 16, 2024 • 12:33:51pm

re: #12 jaunte

Ricardo J. Salvador
@cadwego.bsky.social

How many tribbles had to die to make that coat and what did it cost?

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Jay C  May 16, 2024 • 12:36:15pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

How many tribbles had to die to make that coat and what did it cost?

What interests me is why the background of that photo looks like the anteroom to Hell….*

*rhetorical question

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 12:37:45pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

Since protecting the work force would be the greater good for the least long-term cost in this case, you have to assume there is another purpose being served, and you correctly point it out.

a whole body of legislation that defines de facto distinctions in the worth of human beings

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 12:37:53pm

re: #58 Jay C

What interests me is why the background of that photo looks like the anteroom to Hell….*

*rhetorical question

Rod Serling’s Night Gallery is back in business! 😈

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 12:39:03pm

re: #49 silverdolphin

A Debate Hedge?

Someone wrote recently (and I am too tired to look it up) that Repblicans always think they are winning, even when behind, and democrats always act like they are losing, even when they are ahead (which is never enough).

Here we have proof of the latter. The early debate will make it easy to replace Biden if he crashes and burns. No worry about Trump being replaced if he does. Typical.

Why the fuck does anyone think that Biden is getting replaced when Trump wouldn’t?

Trump’s the one who faces incarceration for state felonies, and awaits trial on multiple felonies that would have put anyone else in prison awaiting trial, not on the campaign trail. Biden’s not getting replaced, though right wingers and dead-enders seem to think this is going to happen.

There’s no LBJ moment coming here, and we know what happened when LBJ quit the race - his replacement failed to stop Nixon - the first true criminal occupant of the WH, and the one whose criminal conduct helped mold Trump’s stint in the WH.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 12:39:11pm

re: #57 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Every hair on that coat probably took 50-100 gallons of water.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 12:39:52pm

Jim Jordan demands Letitia James turn over documents about prosecutor in hush money trial

Please Tish! Indict Gym Shorts on Obstruction Of Justice charges!

alternet.org

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 12:41:19pm

re: #63 Joe Bacon ✅

Huh? She has to give him stuff? This does not make any sense.

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danarchy  May 16, 2024 • 12:42:52pm

re: #44 silverdolphin

Just checked online and for the latest quarter that ended in March, the effective tax rate for BH was 18% which is not too far off the nominal tax rate. It has been over 20% as recently as 2019. Can’t find any year where they made a profit and the rate was 6%.

I didn’t dig into it that much, was just going by the quote and their recent profits. I am guessing that must be a really old quote because it looks like the last time Berkshire Hathaway had a $5 billion tax bill was like 2011ish

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No Malarkey!  May 16, 2024 • 12:43:10pm
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aatharuv  May 16, 2024 • 12:44:10pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Hard to believe I have to give up Gretchen Whitmer for this dangerous psychotic shitgoblin.

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So DeSantis is against capitalism for ideological reasons.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2024 • 12:46:45pm

re: #67 aatharuv

So DeSantis is against capitalism for ideological reasons.

DeSantis is a Republican, therefore he is an unprincipled knave by definition.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 12:47:18pm

re: #59 jaunte

Since protecting the work force would be the greater good for the least long-term cost in this case, you have to assume there is another purpose being served, and you correctly point it out.

I’d further propose that we’re watching the use of the law to recreate the kind of vacuum of labor rights you see in the developing world: it doesn’t matter what the state says individual rights are, the purchase of labor through employment grants exceptional use of the paid-for body.

We’re going back to steam looms and the shirtwaist factory.

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Jay C  May 16, 2024 • 12:49:47pm

re: #64 PhillyPretzel ✅

Huh? She has to give him stuff? This does not make any sense.

It’s Jim Jordan and the House Select Committee on Political Hackery. It doesn’t HAVE to make sense. just look a proper “outrage” for RW TV….

ADD: looking at this crap, it makes me think the GOPers are assuming that Trump will be found guilty in the NY case, and are (now) desperately scrambling to try to smear any and every agency involved to try to flog the “political show trial” narrative. Or whatever else deflectionary bullshit they’re going to hawk…

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 12:50:50pm

re: #67 aatharuv

So DeSantis is against capitalism for ideological reasons.

Historically, capitalism becomes against capitalism PDQ after a generation of “winners” start formulating ways to end competition.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2024 • 12:53:19pm

re: #69 The Ghost of a Flea

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition…” is getting very literal these days.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 12:55:19pm

re: #72 EPR-radar

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition…” is getting very literal these days.

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lawhawk  May 16, 2024 • 12:58:12pm

re: #70 Jay C

They also wish that Biden had a paper trail and crime syndicate surrounding him for which their own prosecutors could investigate and prosecute.

The closest they’ve gotten is the trumped up Hunter Biden crapulence that has blown up in their collective faces. They have nothing on Joe. Nothing.

Biden’s been in public life for ~40+ years. They have nothing, because he’s been above board the entire time. Trump’s been engaging in malfeasance for 50+ years. That’s the established record.

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EPR-radar  May 16, 2024 • 1:00:10pm

re: #71 The Ghost of a Flea

Historically, capitalism becomes against capitalism PDQ after a generation of “winners” start formulating ways to end competition.

Nobody in a position of power has ever wanted competition.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 1:01:47pm

re: #73 The Ghost of a Flea

When I’m accused of being a Marxist I confess that I have been a faithful follower of Zeppo all my life!

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 1:03:04pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon ✅

lol. Thank you for making me laugh. I have been having a tough day.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 16, 2024 • 1:03:36pm

re: #76 Joe Bacon ✅

When I’m accused of being a Marxist I confess that I have been a faithful follower of Zeppo all my life!

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As a Harpo Marxist I of course have to condemn your decadence and send you to the Gulag in Branson, Missouri, but it’s surprising hard to convey that with ooga-horn honks.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 1:03:53pm

re: #77 PhillyPretzel ✅

The greatest Marx Bros pictures were the ones with Zeppo in them.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 1:04:37pm

re: #78 The Ghost of a Flea

How many Gookies must I perform to appease The Great Harpo?

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 1:06:03pm

re: #49 silverdolphin

A Debate Hedge?

Someone wrote recently (and I am too tired to look it up) that Repblicans always think they are winning, even when behind, and democrats always act like they are losing, even when they are ahead (which is never enough).

Here we have proof of the latter. The early debate will make it easy to replace Biden if he crashes and burns. No worry about Trump being replaced if he does. Typical.

yeah
its asinine

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 1:06:29pm

Laffy

@GottaLaff@mastodon.social
66/ McB:

We hear from Bove for the first time now, who wants to address the potential testimony of Brad Smith on campaign finance law: the category they want to discuss is general defintions and terms that relate to this case, such as “campaign contribution.”

When a “favor” is not really a “contribution.”

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 1:08:24pm

re: #53 Jay C

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JC1  May 16, 2024 • 1:10:02pm

re: #38 danarchy

Here is the problem with that quote. Berkshire Hathaway is one of the most profitable companies in the country. This is what I could find, but it is from 2022, don’t imagine it has changed too much. This is the top 10 that year.

Apple ($94 billion)
Berkshire Hathaway ($89 billion)
Alphabet ($76 billion)
Microsoft ($61 billion)
JP Morgan Chase ($48 billion)
Meta Platforms ($39 billion)
Amazon ($33 billion)
Bank of America ($31 billion)
ExxonMobil ($23 billion)
Fannie Mae ($22 billion)

So 5 billion was somewhere in the neighborhood of 6% for him. The list falls off pretty quickly. Are there even 800 companies that have $5 billion in profit in a year?

That’s either a very old quote, a made up quote, or it refers to his personal taxes. Berkshire Hathaway paid over 23B in taxes in 2023.
macrotrends.net

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JC1  May 16, 2024 • 1:10:56pm

re: #42 danarchy

I just find it amusing that he is sort of bragging about paying a whole 6% in taxes.

Unless you know the year he’s talking about that’s very unlikely.
macrotrends.net

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wrenchwench  May 16, 2024 • 1:16:35pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 1:19:10pm

I may be late to the party on this one but an NFL player named Harrison Butker is getting raked over the coals for a “riveting” speech he gave at a graduation ceremony:

CNN - The NFL is distancing itself from controversial comments by Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker during a recent commencement address. In addition to calling Pride Month a “deadly sin” and bemoaning diversity and equity initiatives, Butker set off waves of criticism when he suggested that women find more fulfillment through getting married and having children than by pursuing careers - directly after quoting a song by Taylor Swift.

The backlash has been building since Butker made the comments Saturday in an address to graduates at Benedictine College, a small Catholic school in Atchison, Kansas.

The NFL issued a statement Wednesday, saying Butker’s comments don’t reflect the views of the league.

*SNIP*

Some of Butkers comments are as follows:

”I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you,” he said.

How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.”

Butker also praised his wife Isabelle, saying she “would be the first to say her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.”

Seems like dude is angling to be the next Aaron Rodgers. 🙄

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JC1  May 16, 2024 • 1:19:37pm

Okay, dug a bit deeper into the quote. Only thing that makes sense is that he was talking about what they pay every quarter, not year.

msn.com

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 1:23:49pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Someone on Bluesky speculated that his mom must have missed one of his big games because she busy doing science.

“…Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker thinks one of the “most important” titles a woman can hold is homemaker, even though his own mother, Elizabeth Keller Butker, has spent the last three decades working as an accomplished medical physicist.
https://www.msnbc.com/know-your-value/out-of-office/chiefs-harrison-butker-wants-women-homemakers-include-physicist-mother-rcna152626

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 1:27:14pm

Murdering pedophile pardoned by Texas Governor

Former U.S. Army Sgt. Daniel Perry not only fantasized about killing Black people, and admitted to “accidentally” killing a homeless man — he also intentionally sought out kids online for his sexual grooming chats. Those details are all now public, recently appearing in the damning trove of Travis County court documents released during Perry’s trial in the murder of 28-year-old Black Lives Matter protester and Air Force veteran Garrett Foster in 2020.
https://www.salon.com/2023/04/21/convicted-murderer-greg-abbott-wants-to-pardon-sought-chats-to-meet-young-girls/

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 1:27:24pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Usually, when there are controversies involving college commencement speakers, they revolve around the speakers themselves—who they are, what they’ve said in the past, etc. Like when then-Vice President Mike Pence spoke at Notre Dame or more recently when Jerry Seinfeld spoke at Duke.

That’s why Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker may have seemed like an innocuous choice for Benedictine College, a Catholic school in Kansas. If you know anything about him—and you probably don’t—it’s wrapped up in football and not politics.

Butker’s speech, however, was a culture war cannonball in which he channeled Matt Walsh, telling women to remain housewives and baby-makers while trashing abortion rights, LGBTQ people, and progressive Catholics.

Some professional athletes, thinking about their post-playing careers, consider coaching or becoming a commentator. It’s clear that Butker would much rather be a talking head on conservative channel.

One final note: When the Los Angeles Chargers released their schedule yesterday (in what has become a hilarious social media spectacle for every NFL team), they appeared to show Butker (who wears #7) in the kitchen.

Very nice touch.

friendlyatheist.com

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Egregious Philbin  May 16, 2024 • 1:33:33pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon ✅

I read that book. Harpo was great because he had sex with Amelia Earhart, and his real name was Adolph Marx. Also, he taught himself how to play the harp. And that sometimes for live shows, he and Chico would trade places, and no one ever realized it. I love all of the Marx brothers, even Zeppo.

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Egregious Philbin  May 16, 2024 • 1:37:13pm
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darthstar  May 16, 2024 • 1:38:29pm

All the legal experts are crying doom for the prosecution. It seems they forgot about the corroborating evidence part.

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 1:43:05pm

re: #94 darthstar

Daily drama required.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2024 • 1:48:40pm

Republicans believe it is not a crime to murder people for political reasons as long as those people are not conservative, and when the law fails to exonerate them their elected officials intervene. www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/d…

Adam Serwer (@adamserwer.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T20:43:37.583Z

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2024 • 1:50:18pm

I really wish this trial had been televised, because I don’t like forming an opinion on it based on media talking heads and pundits. They’re too invested in pumping up the controversial angles.

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DodgerFan1988  May 16, 2024 • 1:50:25pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2024 • 1:52:06pm

This seems like good news.

NEW: The Supreme Court UPHOLDS the CFPB’s funding structure in a 7–2 opinion by Justice Clarence Thomas (of all people), emphatically shooting down the 5th Circuit’s claim that it violates the Constitution’s appropriations clause. www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23p…

Mark Joseph Stern (@mjsdc.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T14:18:28.001Z

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2024 • 1:52:55pm

CLARENCE THOMAS actually wrote the opinion. I am flabbergasted.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 1:53:58pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Damn. What weird ass alternate dimension did we fall into?

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Charles Johnson  May 16, 2024 • 1:58:27pm

This actually makes me worried that the Supreme Court is about to do something really fucked up.

Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-05-16T20:58:05.000Z

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Dangerman  May 16, 2024 • 1:58:44pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

CLARENCE THOMAS actually wrote the opinion. I am flabbergasted.

that he knew how to write?

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Semper Fi  May 16, 2024 • 2:00:42pm

re: #103 Dangerman

that he knew how to write?

I think he just signed it.

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Nerdy Fish  May 16, 2024 • 2:04:14pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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Well, yeah. They’re going to say the President is immune from all prosecution, as long as some criteria are met such that it would apply to Donald J. Trump, but could never apply to Joseph R. Biden.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 2:04:58pm

re: #104 Semper Fi

Law clerks are the ones who write the decisions like this. And this particular ruling had something to do with payday loans.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 2:10:16pm

After 12 years of marriage, Rep. Rich McCormick (R-GA) is calling it quits with his oncologist wife Dr. Debra Miller amid rumors he’s been canoodling with a fellow lawmaker, according to The Daily Mail.

Inquiring minds want to know who he is getting down with! 😈

rawstory.com

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jaunte  May 16, 2024 • 2:10:39pm

Originalist Mind-Reading Spotted

“…In his dissenting opinion, Alito rejected Thomas’ recounting of history, arguing that the drafters of the Constitution “would be shocked, even horrified, by” the CFPB’s funding scheme. Offering his own detailed version of history, Alito concluded that “centuries of historical practice show that the Appropriations Clause demands legislative control over the source and disposition of the money used to finance Government operations and projects.”
https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/05/supreme-court-lets-cfpb-funding-stand/#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20the%205th%20Circuit,the%20amount%20that%20the%20CFPB

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 2:11:02pm

re: #105 Nerdy Fish

Well, yeah. They’re going to say the President is immune from all prosecution, as long as some criteria are met such that it would apply to Donald J. Trump, but could never apply to Joseph R. Biden.

“This ruling applies to all Presidents born after the year 1945…”

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Mattand  May 16, 2024 • 2:15:50pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

CLARENCE THOMAS actually wrote the opinion. I am flabbergasted.

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Mattand  May 16, 2024 • 2:18:06pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon ✅

How many Gookies must I perform to appease The Great Harpo?

That is a deep, deep Marx Bros. cut.

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Mattand  May 16, 2024 • 2:20:33pm

re: #61 lawhawk

Why the fuck does anyone think that Biden is getting replaced when Trump wouldn’t?

Trump’s the one who faces incarceration for state felonies, and awaits trial on multiple felonies that would have put anyone else in prison awaiting trial, not on the campaign trail. Biden’s not getting replaced, though right wingers and dead-enders seem to think this is going to happen.

There’s no LBJ moment coming here, and we know what happened when LBJ quit the race - his replacement failed to stop Nixon - the first true criminal occupant of the WH, and the one whose criminal conduct helped mold Trump’s stint in the WH.

Please tell this to Jon Stewart. Because his fifth columning for Trump is fucking getting old.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2024 • 2:24:11pm

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Forget it, Jake. It’s a kicker.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2024 • 2:26:50pm

The only person that matters on the Kansas City Chiefs is Butker’s teammate. A quarterback named Patrick Mahomes, and Mahomes comes across as pretty progressive and hates Trump.

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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2024 • 2:31:55pm
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Mike Lamb  May 16, 2024 • 2:32:36pm

re: #114 Ace Rothstein

The only person that matters on the Kansas City Chiefs is Butker’s teammate. A quarterback named Patrick Mahomes, and Mahomes comes across as pretty progressive and hates Trump.

Perhaps he wants to be a “martyr,” but I’d put the odds at better than 50-50 he gets cut. No doubt he’s a good kicker. But he’s a kicker. Perhaps the most fungible position in the league. The Chiefs aren’t going to let a goofy ass kicking bigot tarnish their image.

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Patricia Kayden  May 16, 2024 • 2:33:26pm

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2024 • 2:34:49pm

re: #116 Mike Lamb

Absolutely. And the Chiefs are a “national team” now with all their success the last six years. There is no way some dumbfuck kicker is going to interfere with the cash cow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 16, 2024 • 2:35:20pm

re: #117 Patricia Kayden

“Hang Mike Pence! Hang Mike Pence!”

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Charmingly Persistent  May 16, 2024 • 2:42:59pm
I may be late to the party on this one but an NFL player named Harrison Butker is getting raked over the coals for a “riveting” speech he gave at a graduation ceremony:

My daughter tells me the Swifties on Tiktok are furious. More Chiefs fans in that group than would have been predicted a year ago, lol

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 2:43:19pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

Hard to believe I have to give up Gretchen Whitmer for this dangerous psychotic shitgoblin.

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Can you keep your voter registration in MI till after the election? Like, not be a full-fledged FL resident yet? I think your vote will mean more in in MI than in FL.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  May 16, 2024 • 2:46:14pm

re: #47 Vicious Babushka

re: #121 BeachDem

VB you can check online to see what rules would work with your situation.

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goddamnedfrank  May 16, 2024 • 2:49:49pm

“Nullified by a jury” is some incredible doublespeak

Nate Schenkkan (@nateschenkkan.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T21:41:42.505Z

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Vicious Babushka  May 16, 2024 • 2:50:01pm

re: #121 BeachDem

Can you keep your voter registration in MI till after the election? Like, not be a full-fledged FL resident yet? I think your vote will mean more in in MI than in FL.

Just in case moving to Florida turns out to be a disaster (figuratively and literally) we are holding off putting our house on the market. But we’re going down in the wrong season for “snowbirds” LOL.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 16, 2024 • 2:52:58pm

Perhaps at the debate Biden can claim he has deep convictions. And Trump has criminal convictions…

We shall see lol.

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 2:54:18pm

We’ve decided to bring THE RAZZIES to a close next year.

Based on the negative reactions at Cannes this could be the lead on our last nominating ballot!

‘Megalopolis’: Francis Ford Coppola’s Opus Is the Laughingstock Everyone Feared

Giggles abounded at the Cannes premiere of Francis Ford Coppola’s latest, which lived up its buzz as an absolute trainwreck. Yet it’s so silly it may be destined for cult status.

About midway through a press screening of Francis Ford Coppola’s much-discussed and long-awaited Megalopolis at the Cannes Film Festival, the screen went black and someone ascended the stage in front of it. For a moment, you could feel the entire theater on edge as if something had gone desperately wrong. Maybe there was a technical issue? Maybe we would need to evacuate? Instead, the person took out a mic and “played” the role of a reporter asking Adam Driver’s character questions at a press conference following a major disaster. Driver, of course, remained on screen and when his answer was finished the man left the stage and returned to his seat in the front row.

In a movie full of bizarre and baffling choices, this was maybe the most inexplicable. Does Coppola imagine this happening at every screening of the film? And if so, what are the logistics of that? And what is the point? To ostensibly represent living humanity in his movie about the future? Or just for kicks?

That said, the sequence, live actor included, also may have predicted what is to come for Megalopolis. This is the kind of movie that will live on in midnight screenings. The phrase “destined to be a cult classic” gets thrown around a lot these days and mostly inaccurately—something that is weird but popular and critically acclaimed does not a “cult classic” make—and yet it seems to actually apply here. Megalopolis is stilted, earnest, over the top, CGI ridden, and utterly a mess. And yet you can picture a crowded theater shouting along with Jon Voight as he says in one key scene, “What do you make of this boner I got?”

This is maybe not the fate that Coppola wants for Megalopolis, a film he has been thinking about making for decades and in which he invested millions of his own money. (One too that has already been beset by controversy.) The film itself has grand ambitions too, with its near-persistent references to ancient Rome and its Marcus Aurelius quotations.

However, Cesar’s actual goals, ostensibly the point of this whole thing, are vague and Megalopolis itself ends up looking like Hudson Yards. If there’s a political message on screen, that too is muddied. Moments where a Confederate flag and a swastika turn up are jolting and out of place, and a montage about civilization that features Hitler and 9/11 is cringe-inducing. And most of it takes place against a backdrop that can best be described as screen-saver-esque.

Still, Megalopolis is the kind of thing that has to be seen to be believed. Many will find it uproarious, others may locate some profundity, most will have to shake their heads. Whatever it is, it’s a lot. And I do hope that someone is required to get up and pretend to ask Adam Driver questions every single showing. It’s part of the experience.

thedailybeast.com

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Markm1960  May 16, 2024 • 2:57:14pm

re: #42 danarchy

I just find it amusing that he is sort of bragging about paying a whole 6% in taxes.

Current federal corporate tax rate is 21% Take the 5bn and work backwards and you’ll see that taxable income is in the 24bn range. That means that BH has some huge tax credits or more likely some huge deferred items. If you check out their financials (10-k report) and find the deferred tax item, you can do the math to see how much income is deferred.

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BeachDem  May 16, 2024 • 2:57:55pm

re: #124 Vicious Babushka

Just in case moving to Florida turns out to be a disaster (figuratively and literally) we are holding off putting our house on the market. But we’re going down in the wrong season for “snowbirds” LOL.

Then you can be “sunbirds” instead (whatever it takes!!)

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Joe Bacon ✅  May 16, 2024 • 3:08:03pm

re: #124 Vicious Babushka

Just in case moving to Florida turns out to be a disaster (figuratively and literally) we are holding off putting our house on the market. But we’re going down in the wrong season for “snowbirds” LOL.

Just hoping everything will work out for you & hubby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  May 16, 2024 • 3:09:24pm

re: #96 goddamnedfrank

Republicans believe it is not a crime to murder people for political reasons as long as those people are not conservative, and when the law fails to exonerate them their elected officials intervene. www.texastribune.org/2024/05/16/d…

Adam Serwer (@adamserwer.bsky.social) 2024-05-16T20:43:37.583Z

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Open season! Biggest problem for the repug-thugs is that they don’t expect anyone to shoot back.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 3:21:14pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

Corporations are people because they’re bourgeois collectivism; unions are to be crushed because they propose that value comes from labor, and that’s a dangerous idea.

When investors pool their resources to optimize their bargaining position, that is called a corporation and is the very heart and soul of our system.

When workers pool their resources to optimize their bargaining position, that is called a union and is the very anathema of what our system stands for.

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Ace Rothstein  May 16, 2024 • 3:23:04pm

Dow dips below 40,000. Biden’s economy…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 3:30:37pm

re: #111 Mattand

How many Gookies must I perform to appease The Great Harpo?

That is a deep, deep Marx Bros. cut.

I think the term is to “pull” a Gookie.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 16, 2024 • 3:32:51pm

re: #130 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Open season! Biggest problem for the repug-thugs is that they don’t expect anyone to shoot back.

No, they want people to start shooting back so they have an excuse to really crack down. We are only seeing the tip of the Iceberg of Evil that is going to be unleashed if the GOP wrests back control of the White House and/or Congress.

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teleskiguy  May 16, 2024 • 4:40:46pm

re: #114 Ace Rothstein

He must lose sleep at night knowing Travis and Taylor have probably had lots of sex outside of a Christian approved marriage.


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