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Jacob Collier, Madison Cunningham & Chris Thile: "Summer Rain"

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silverdolphin3/27/2024 9:41:28 am PDT

TL:DR The changes made in the Electoral Count Act make it harder for he MAGAs to muck things up. Not mpossible but harder.
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I recognize the below does not cover every aspect of ratfucking they may do. But it clarifies a lot, making it much harder to accomplish, if we do our part and vote.

I finally checked out more details about the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

I’d heard about some of its provisions - the VP role is simply ceremonial and it takes 20% of each House to object to a slate of electors. But they can only object over the lawful verification of the electors or that the electoral vote was not regularly given. And the debate is then by each House separately with the majority deciding. And both Houses have to vote for withdrawal of the electors for it to happen.

So some ability to ratfuck the proceedings but mainly just to slow things down. If we win at least one House, it will be hard to use this part to accomplish much.

The new Act also has some interesting stuff that I had not known. If states use popular vote to determine electeos, they cannot change that after the vote has happened. The governor is responsible for submitting the certificates unless changed by state law, again before the election.

So, no changing the rules after they lose. Also, this next bit is going to have a big impact - a certificate of electors that was revised as ordered by a state or federal court judgment before the meeting of electors supersedes all previous certificates. So if the state tries to illegally change the certificate, the courts have final say. Thus there likely will be only 1 slate of electors.

And the site for any challenges is the Federal District of the state capital (so no Kacsmaryk from the Northern District of Texas nor court shopping). It is all on an expedited basis with “any appeal from the court’s judgment may be heard directly by the Supreme Court on an expedited basis, and the court’s final order on remand must occur at the latest on the day before the electors’ meeting.”

Yeah, it is a Calvinball Court, ac orrupt one but I simply do not see Roberts playing ball with all the MAGAs. He is not going to allow his Supreme Court legacy be that he threw the election into the House and helped a coup. So, whoever the Court certifies the day before is who the electors are. Period. Any corrupt finding would be way too obvious. (Yeah, corrupt is corrupt but again, this will have to be out in the open. They showed no inclination to do anything like this before - Trump lost, wha, 62 times before)

There is probably no way to absolutley prevent any sort of ratfucking. But this new Act makes it harder and requires much greater organizational abilities (ie a corrupt Governor cannot run out the clock or send 2 slates).

The clarification of the legal process makes it harder to muck things up. Any challenge goes directly to a 3 person Court and any appeal goes directly to the Supremes. Which has to render a decision the day before the electors meet to vote in December. Hard to run out the clock with fake ones. We will know exactly what slate of electors will be counted.

Thus, the Congressional counting should only see one slate of electors.

SO, no real way for multiple elector lists to show up. The Court decisions are final. If that had been in place in 2020, Trump would never have been able to go anywhere with the fake elector scheme.

Not to say there is no way they cannot stage another coup attempt. But it is much more constrained. And the clarification that the rules cannot be changed after the election and that the Federal Courts have jurisdiction on an expedited basis puts some clear roadblocks in the attempt.

It is going to take a lot more organized work for them to make it ‘look’ legal. If we do our part and vote (let’s fucking flip Florida and Texas), I think chances are very slim they will be organized and smart enough to be successful. I hope.