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Mad Prophet Ludwig9/29/2009 10:13:55 am PDT

re: #729 Charles

This quote is in the context of the unbelievable scandal in Ireland, in which the majority of children in Catholic schools and institutions were either abused or molested by priests or nuns.

I’m not quite ready to say I want the Catholic Church “ruined” because of this, but the scale of this monstrous abuse was truly horrific.

You are correct.

I am not trying to demonize Dawkins or his science. Dawkins also speaks very clearly and precisely. What some people object to, is the very smug and mean way he mocks all religion and declares it all useless.

He has stated himself that he wants to take out faith. Weinberg another staunch atheist, and an even bigger scientist, and he have debated not so much atheism, or science, but rather if Dawkins scorched Earth approach is a good one overall.

Here is Dawkins speaking in 09, at the American Atheists

Youtube Video

Please judge for yourself if he has a bit of a grudge with religion. I am not trying to pillory Dawkins. His science is impeccable and he is clearly a brilliant speaker. He is also not exactly fair to people of faith to say the least.

Dawkins is not a nazi. Dawkins is not evil. Dawkins political or religious views are completely seperate from his brilliant science and he should not have his science questioned because of them. Dawkins is someone I would have a drink with and try to speak to as a scientist, why it is possible to not be stupid and still believe in G-d.