Overnight Tiny Desk Jam: Sister Sparrow & the Dirty Birds

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April 25, 2016 by JOSH ROGOSIN • Sister Sparrow & The Dirty Birds’ punchy horn section, bluesy vocals and uniquely transformative harmonica solos instantly demand attention. Their obvious joy in playing music together is contagious, and they brought the party to Bob Boilen’s desk in a big way.

The seven-piece band, named for the pigeons of New York’s Penn Station, is made up of both friends and family. Arleigh Kincheloe (nicknamed Sister Sparrow) leads with her explosive vocals. Her brother, Jackson Kincheloe, makes his harmonicas sound like an organ one moment and a screeching guitar the next; he brought a collection of 48. Sasha Brown (guitar), Josh Myers (bass), Dan Boyden (drums), Phil Rodriguez (trumpet) and Brian Graham (baritone sax) round out the dynamic septet, which just released its first live album, Fowl Play.

Fowl Play is available now:
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/fowl-play/id1083858302
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01BP183NI/?tag=littlegreenfo-20

Set List:
“Sugar”
“Catch Me If You Can”
“Mama Knows”

Credits:
Producers: Josh Rogosin, Niki Walker; Audio Engineers: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Kara Frame, Nick Michaels; Production Assistant: Jackson Sinnenberg; Photo: Brandon Chew/NPR.

For more Tiny Desk concerts, subscribe to our podcast: http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510292/tiny-desk-concerts-video

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400 comments
1
wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 27, 2016 • 10:13:43pm

Toity doity boids on Toity-toid Street, eatin’ doity woims.
— Old NYC proverb

Penn Central Station sits between 33rd and 34th Streets, in case you didn’t know. (toity-fawth street)

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retired cynic  Apr 27, 2016 • 10:27:58pm

re: #1 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Toity doity boids on Toity-toid Street, eatin’ doity woims.
— Old NYC proverb

Penn Central Station sits between 33rd and 34th Streets, in case you didn’t know. (toity-fawth street)

My husband used to recite that!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 27, 2016 • 11:26:55pm

When he was using the terlet?

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Teukka  Apr 27, 2016 • 11:35:08pm

So I got this earworm infection…

Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video]

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 27, 2016 • 11:38:05pm

re: #4 Teukka

So I got this earworm…

It is an impressive cover, worthy of the original. I remember being absolutely nailed to the floor the first time I heard the G&G version playing on my older sister’s phonograph (I musta been about eight or nine years old)

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 27, 2016 • 11:41:13pm
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sagehen  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:21:23am

That’s the “terrorist fist bump”. Fox News told me so.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 1:23:39am

Rage Furby has a sad because his hero, Ted Cruz, chose Carly Fiorina as a running mate.

Not only did she run two companies into the ground, there this:

gotnews.com has exclusively discovered a video tape of Carly Fiorina working with Jesse Jackson and Bill Clinton on a failed diversity push.

O noez!!!

Now Rage Furby promises to “vet” Carly F., since the Cruz campaign failed to do so. lol

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:07:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 2:16:06am

re: #9 Kragar

Trump Adviser: The Average Woman Not Using Her Brain Will Vote Clinton

There are people who just hate Hillary and will refuse to vote for her. There are others who will vote GOP come hell or high water.

But I do not think that those two groups are going to outweigh or even counterbalance the group of people who will absolutely not vote for Trump or Cruz.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 3:05:11am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 3:07:09am

It’s happened again. Doctors Without Borders facility bombed in airstrikes in Aleppo. 14 casualties.

washingtonpost.com

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2016 • 3:58:52am

re: #9 Kragar

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I went back to the thread I was being insulted in by Bernie bros yesterday and found they’d moved on to blaming women and blacks for voting for Hillary because they were attached to the status quo of her machine politics and didn’t understand their own best interests. IOW a leftist version of that Trump crap. I called them on their misogyny and logged out.

Christ, even fuckin Paul bots have a better attachment to reality than them.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 4:41:53am
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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 4:44:20am

Not sure if many of you caught the Bob & Chez show from this post here but check out about the 54:10 mark. Great stuff.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 4:48:12am

Rage Furby is losing his mind over Carly Fiorina….who wudda thunk it.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 4:54:28am

re: #16 Dr. Matt

Rage Furby is losing his mind over Carly Fiorina….who wudda thunk it.

He posted something about his blog about Carly fraternizing with Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson, and trying to help teh blahs.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:00:04am

re: #17 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

He posted something about his blog about Carly fraternizing with Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson, and trying to help teh blahs.

OUTRAGE!

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:01:43am

re: #18 Dr. Matt

OUTRAGE!

She and Cruz have no chance in hell of winning the White House, so who knows why he’s so uptight about her. Maybe he feels that Cruz has double-crossed him.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:03:44am

re: #19 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

She and Cruz have no chance in hell of winning the White House, so who knows why he’s so uptight about her. Maybe he feels that Cruz has double-crossed him.

He’s a misogynist prick.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:05:12am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

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Now Fox News pundits can opine on whether Cruz and Fiorina are engaging in a subversive fist bump like they did when the Obamas fist bumped back in 2008.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:07:07am

re: #20 Dr. Matt

He’s a misogynist prick.

Well, that, too.

I thought you were referring to just one Carly status message. He’s got a whole stream of them, one after another! Yeah, so much for giving up on fascist Facebook and how it enslaves people.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:07:45am

re: #14 Dr. Matt

Trump Ally Roger Stone Warns Alex Jones That A Staged “International Incident” Could Be Used To Cancel The Election

Jade Helm!!!

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:09:33am

re: #22 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Well, that, too.

I thought you were referring to just one Carly status message. He’s got a whole stream of them, one after another! Yeah, so much for giving up on fascist Facebook and how it enslaves people.

Yeah…he is a steady state of hate towards Carly on the fascist facebook. Rage Furby almost sounds like a jilted lover.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:14:49am

re: #24 Dr. Matt

Yeah…he is a steady state of hate towards Carly on the fascist facebook. Rage Furby almost sounds like a jilted lover.

Cruz has failed him.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:22:56am

re: #13 William Lewis

Blaming women and Blacks sounds sexist and racist to me. Shame on his supporters for going that route when Senator Sanders has lost fair and square.

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:42:15am

This shit is only the beginning. Watch the video. The cops were actually in the ladies restroom demanding identification from the female lesbian. Unreal.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:45:22am
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:47:38am

re: #14 Dr. Matt

If the Civil War didn’t stop the presidential election, nor did WW2, there’s nothing that’s going to happen now that will stop the election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:53:54am

re: #29 Belafon

If the Civil War didn’t stop the presidential election, nor did WW2, there’s nothing that’s going to happen now that will stop the election.

The point is, those with clear heads know that the GOP is going to take a shellacking, they have to start doing all they can to discredit both the candidate and the election itself.

BTW, why hasn’t Hillary released her birth certificate?

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:57:12am

Had a long post planned. Sounded a bit gushy in the end. High-sounding words disguising a major tongue-bath.
So instead I’ll just observe that Barack Obama is a great president.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 28, 2016 • 5:58:29am

re: #27 Dr. Matt

Disturbing…. This type of crap happened to a dear friend and old roommate of mine in Phx. No cops involved, just a straight intolerant woman.

Not to be snark but the gal in the video should have shown her chest, of course then she might have been shot.

This is getting out of hand.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:00:40am
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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:00:50am

re: #30 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The point is, those with clear heads know that the GOP is going to take a shellacking, they have to start doing all they can to discredit both the candidate and the election itself.

BTW, why hasn’t Hillary released her birth certificate?

It would be irresponsible not to ask the question.

(and good morning all, by the way)

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:01:19am

Lucifer in the flesh is probably the best description of Ted Cruz I have ever heard.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:01:42am

re: #31 Alyosha

Had a long post planned. Sounded a bit gushy in the end. High-sounding words disguising a major tongue-bath.
So instead I’ll just observe that Barack Obama is a great president.

He’s a very, very good president. If he empties the cells at Gitmo, he’s a great president.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:04:48am
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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:08:45am
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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:09:30am

There’s a reason so many people fixated on Trump’s usage of “America First”. Basic American history pre-World War II. A bunch of isolationists wanted to ignore threats occurring overseas and thought by ignoring them, we could be prosperous.

That was a lie.

Today, we have Trump with his asinine positions, which hardly resemble a doctrine when on the one hand he wants to go isolationist, but on the other thinks we have nukes and (could) should use them against IS even though IS as a terror group has strongholds in countries that are nominally allies or neutrals, or opponents. And who cares who’s downwind, right Trump? Because all that fallout wont affect Israel in the slightest, except that it could. And our other allies in the region.

But hey, let’s focus on his pronunciation gaffe. Because that’s the most visible part?

The speech was a tour de force of incoherence and illogic. Sure, it had lots of catch phrases, but nothing that resembles making sense.

Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright put it thusly:

That’s where Trump’s at. And the GOP is buying what he’s selling.

They don’t care that distant second place candidate Cruz picked has-been/also-ran Fiorina as a running mate considering neither has any chance of being nominated.

Though, it is quite possible that when Trump wins the nomination, he picks Fiorina as a running mate, which would mean that Fiorina gets to enjoy being on 2 losing GOP campaigns in the same year (not counting her own failed GOP run for the White House).

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:09:44am

re: #38 Dr. Matt

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Has a ‘Demon Sheep’ quality about it.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:10:43am

re: #36 Decatur Deb

He’s a very, very good president. If he empties the cells at Gitmo, he’s a great president.

That’d be something.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:11:21am

re: #40 Decatur Deb

Has a ‘Demon Sheep’ quality about it.

I thought about that yesterday…

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:11:40am

re: #39 lawhawk

Cruz: I plan to carpet bomb ISIS
Media: What a fool! Clueless!

Trump: I may use nukes against ISIS
Media: Brilliant! What a leader!

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:12:58am

re: #39 lawhawk

Of course, Salon will ignore all of the problems with Trump’s cognitive dissonance and bipolar policy choices (because he’s suggesting item after item that are at odds with each other:

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Dr. Matt  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:15:47am

re: #44 lawhawk

Salon is the first librul media account that I have blocked.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:17:20am
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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:17:41am

re: #44 lawhawk

They’ve gone completely off the rails.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:17:44am
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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:19:09am

re: #44 lawhawk

Of course, Salon will ignore all of the problems with Trump’s cognitive dissonance and bipolar policy choices (because he’s suggesting item after item that are at odds with each other:

“The sun rises in Europe before it does in America.”

I have gotten a major foreign policy point correct. I’m obviously ready to be president.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:21:42am

re: #48 darthstar

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It’s denigrating to picture him as a common bathroom sex offender. It’s pretty well established that he’s a sailboat sex offender.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:21:47am

“America First” is vague enough to be meaningless, or rather it can mean whatever you want it to mean.

Should America put its own interests first? Nobody would disagree with that. But what are America’s long-term strategic and economic interests?

That is when specifics are required, the kind that were totally lacking in DT’s speech.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:23:03am

re: #48 darthstar

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O’Keefe is the Rage Furby of investigative journalism.

Nice to see his “career” so rightfully flourishing.

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Great White Snark  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:23:12am

re: #48 darthstar

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:23:29am

re: #52 b.d.

O’Keefe is the Rage Furby of investigative journalism.

Nice to see his “career” so rightfully flourishing.

Lots of careers have ended in public restrooms…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:23:55am

re: #48 darthstar

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Time to get a real job, Jimbo.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:24:40am

re: #48 darthstar

That’s like the bathroom expose that Breitbart ran yesterday. 20 mostly white guys sexually assaulting or otherwise engaging in perversions in restrooms at Targets. None were actually transgendered. They were white guys going to the men’s room. Or they went into a woman’s room to assault women.

Not transgendered. Straight white guys.

I don’t see Target banning white guys from going to bathrooms. No one is calling for any kind of ban like that, even though it’s white guys who engage in those activities.

I don’t see anyone calling for gay Republican Senators to be banned from bathrooms (toe tapping Larry Craig, is that you?!). But somehow transgendered folks are the biggest threat to bathroom use?!

These people are delusional and don’t understand how bathrooms work, let alone how stalls operate (or bodily functions, which is an offshoot of ignorance about science, reproductive health, etc).

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:25:05am

re: #46 lawhawk

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Livingstone is a jackass. Really Ken?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:26:10am

re: #56 lawhawk

That’s like the bathroom expose that Breitbart ran yesterday. 20 mostly white guys sexually assaulting or otherwise engaging in perversions in restrooms at Targets. None were actually transgendered. They were white guys going to the men’s room. Or they went into a woman’s room to assault women.

Not transgendered. Straight white guys.

I don’t see Target banning white guys from going to bathrooms. No one is calling for any kind of ban like that, even though it’s white guys who engage in those activities.

I don’t see anyone calling for gay Republican Senators to be banned from bathrooms (toe tapping Larry Craig, is that you?!). But somehow transgendered folks are the biggest threat to bathroom use?!

These people are delusional and don’t understand how bathrooms work, let alone how stalls operate (or bodily functions, which is an offshoot of ignorance about science, reproductive health, etc).

It’s just another reason for conservatives and Republicans to show themselves to be retrograde assholes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:26:28am

re: #56 lawhawk

This is just an obsession that seems to run strong throughout parts of America: anything to do with genitals or breasts is associated with sex, and anything to do with sex is associated with perversion.

Also, it is accepted that God created two sexes, anything outside that is a perversion or an abomination unto the Lord.

We cannot try to argue with these people, we can only try to limit the amount of damage they cause.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:26:31am

re: #52 b.d.

O’Keefe is the Rage Furby of investigative journalism.

Nice to see his “career” so rightfully flourishing.

I’m surprised they haven’t teamed up yet.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:27:08am

re: #60 darthstar

I’m surprised they haven’t teamed up yet.

Small miracles, DS, small miracles.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:27:58am

Oops.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:28:19am

re: #60 darthstar

There’s cross pollination. It’s a very small circle the two of them run in. Commonalities include Lila Rose and the indicted David Daleidin.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:29:36am

re: #62 darthstar

Oops.

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Paid leave. I wish I could screw up that bad, I could use a paid break.

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Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:29:55am

good morning fellow Lizards!

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:30:20am

re: #60 darthstar

I’m surprised they haven’t teamed up yet.

They’re still trying to figure out who gets top billing.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:30:42am

Biden’s in Iraq.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:30:49am

re: #46 lawhawk

Heh, I decided to follow George Galloway on Twitter for lulz just last week. Explains the recent torrent of weirdness.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:31:37am

re: #64 b.d.

Paid leave. I wish I could screw up that bad, I could use a paid break.

Yeah, what happened to “you don’t work, you don’t get paid”. Guess that is only for some people.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:31:42am

re: #66 b.d.

They’re still trying to figure out who gets top billingbunk.

ftfy

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:32:01am

re: #68 Alyosha

Heh, I decided to follow George Galloway on Twitter for lulz just last week. Explains the recent torrent of weirdness.

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Although I opposed the Iraq War staunchly, I was rooting for Hitchens in his debate with Galloway. Galloway’s part of that element of the left that flat out disgusts me.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:32:17am

Decatur Deb,
we were cleaning out a back stall and I thought you would enjoy this.

yBPFQIeWuy/uxWUH4m15nxdxfzZkSv5hk/lEc6cgzVTn7VWaRhxmSH8+MZ1de8ll0zJmK9xMD2JnU6Zh25jjtYez5Ew7S2v2kgztMx9YsAP78NcEQ7zy3gxsaF99Ie6bRNC/mJHuhG64X6eNZ1IqTGUIZuhCqqvDbMsJkTPW6lotE4mLigRKkfXW2yijdBx2Ej7YnmJnmW+wuA9n0zzUauwDTXKWXnnM

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b_sharp  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:32:43am

re: #4 Teukka

So I got this earworm infection…

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Video

I really like it. They go a great job.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:33:19am

re: #63 lawhawk

There’s cross pollination. It’s a very small circle the two of them run in. Commonalities include Lila Rose and the indicted David Daleidin.

It’s why I am not exactly optimistic about millenial conservatives being any better than their older counterparts. Yes, my generation as a whole is perhaps more socially liberal (Though I have seen some suggest this is exaggerated a bit) but our wingnuts are just as wingnutty as the rest.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:33:52am

re: #71 HappyWarrior

Although I opposed the Iraq War staunchly, I was rooting for Hitchens in his debate with Galloway. Galloway’s part of that element of the left that flat out disgusts me.

I feel like watching that right now.
I used to be one of those guys. *shakes head*

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:34:58am

Heh:

MD-01: Forget any clever ledes—we’re just going to give this one to you right up front: Republican pollster Gravis Marketing blew a race by 96 points on Tuesday night. Yep, 96 points. It’s by far—by far—the biggest polling disaster we’ve ever seen, so let’s talk about it a little.

Back in January, Gravis conducted a poll for former state Del. Mike Smigiel, who was challenging Rep. Andy Harris in the GOP primary in Maryland’s conservative 1st Congressional District. Smigiel’s poll gave him an impossible 58-29 lead on Harris

dailykos.com

And the results were beyond brutal. Harris wound up obliterating Smigiel by a 78-11 margin, a net clobbering of 67 points. Remember, though, that Gravis showed Smigiel ahead by 29 points.

Gravis showed up out of nowhere a cycle or two ago and I laughed them off but they put out on encouraging Bernie poll somewhere and the BernieBros quoted it like it was the Bible.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:35:02am

re: #75 Alyosha

I feel like watching that right now.
I used to be one of those guys. *shakes head*

I used to be one of those types too sad to say. I never apologized for Hussein’s brutality like Galloway did though.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:35:26am

re: #72 lizardofid

Decatur Deb,
we were cleaning out a back stall and I thought you would enjoy this.

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Beautiful. Color scheme says it’s a ‘79. A little WD40 and some Sea Foam….

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:36:06am

re: #67 darthstar

Biden’s in Iraq.

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Why would Biden salute? I am not a fan of the POTUS saluting but at least there can be an explanation for it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:37:04am

re: #62 darthstar

She’s been bad news wherever she’s landed.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:37:15am

re: #79 b.d.

Why would Biden salute? I am not a fan of the POTUS saluting but at least there can be an explanation for it.

OK per FM 22-5.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:37:18am

re: #79 b.d.

Why would Biden salute? I am not a fan of the POTUS saluting but at least there can be an explanation for it.

and he is not holding a latte…

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:37:59am

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Beautiful. Color scheme says it’s a ‘79. A little WD40 and some Sea Foam….

If I remember correctly when it was put in there it was a pretty fresh top end with a mushy clutch.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:38:13am

Lucifer in the flesh is trending.

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Great White Snark  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:39:03am

Would Hilary step up and push back again a bit harder on fellow Dems or lt this one slide? it would be an excellent indicator of real intent.

WASHINGTON — A group of House Democrats is organizing an effort to slow down an Obama administration plan to reduce drug prices, according to a letter obtained by The Huffington Post.

The Department of Health and Human Services is working toward finalizing a new rule that would experiment with ending the financial incentive doctors have for prescribing some extremely expensive medications. The rule has been well-received among some patient advocates, but congressional Democrats have been largely silent, while the pharmaceutical industry and medical community have waged an aggressive campaign to stop it.

huffingtonpost.com

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:39:10am

re: #77 HappyWarrior

I used to be one of those types too sad to say. I never apologized for Hussein’s brutality like Galloway did though.

Well you were better than me. I didn’t apologise for Hussein and what he did, but I could rationalise anything if the premise was ‘but ‘Murica!’
Now I know how fucked up the world is and that, perversely, America is our best chance.
Who’d have thought?

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:39:51am

re: #78 Decatur Deb

Beautiful. Color scheme says it’s a ‘79. A little WD40 and some Sea Foam….

Seafoam is the name of my wireless network at home.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:40:10am

re: #82 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and he is not holding a latte…

Quick! Someone give the VP a Scottie!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:40:36am

re: #83 lizardofid

If I remember correctly when it was put in there it was a pretty fresh top end with a mushy clutch.

There is so little to go seriously wrong on a bike with so few moving parts. With the large online cult sustaining aftermarket parts, it can run again.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:41:54am

re: #81 Decatur Deb

OK per FM 22-5.

I pulled it up and it is 235 pages, I’m going to trust you on that one Decatur Deb.

:)

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:42:35am

Wow.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:42:53am

Well, I guess the positive thing here is that it doesn’t look like it will be some nut, with plans to kill more Muslims.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:43:09am

re: #90 b.d.

I pulled it up and it is 235 pages, I’m going to trust you on that one Decatur Deb.

:)

Oh, I know that one. When you screwed up at my grade school, you had to write out provisions 100 times.

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Kent Dorfman  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:44:19am

A group of disorganized and panicky ISIS extremists were caught on video as they struggled to fire rockets at Kurdish peshmerga troops about 30 miles north of Mosul in Iraq.

nypost.com

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:45:54am
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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:46:51am

Scientology was overdue for an ass whipping.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:47:01am

re: #95 darthstar

I actually said “interesting” out loud.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:47:34am

re: #86 Alyosha

Well you were better than me. I didn’t apologise for Hussein and what he did, but I could rationalise anything if the premise was ‘but ‘Murica!’
Now I know how fucked up the world is and that, perversely, America is our best chance.
Who’d have thought?

Hey you came around. People change. The difficult thing for me is I’m probably still not that hawkish but I don’t share the ultra doves hatred of drones either. I mean the drones are far from perfect I concede too. Foreign policy is difficult hence why I think both anti-war and hawkish types dumb it down way too much.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:48:40am

re: #95 darthstar

The case was brought forward by the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division after concluding a two-year-long investigation into the inner workings of Scientology. The investigation, along with an extensive audit, found the group to be a “criminal operation with a sole purpose of making money”.

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:50:35am

re: #99 Belafon

Now the asset hiding begins in earnest.

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MsJ  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:50:51am

re: #15 Franklin

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Not sure if many of you caught the Bob & Chez show from this post here but check out about the 54:10 mark. Great stuff.

Fascinating how he wrote in his name and won an elected position with only his own vote.

I wish Deray would have started a bit lower than mayor of a large city. Even if he has cred in his background to manage something like a city (don’t know about a city the size of Baltimore, though), but if he started as an alderman or whatever Baltimore has as an equivalent, I could see his star rising quickly.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:51:21am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

There is so little to go seriously wrong on a bike with so few moving parts. With the large online cult sustaining aftermarket parts, it can run again.

If one of the young-uns show interest in it, we might dig it out. By the time I got the top end finished (probably 15 years ago), I could barely throw my leg over it, much less kick it.

However, I believe as you do, “it can run again”

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darthstar  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:52:00am
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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:52:37am

re: #95 darthstar

I fell for that one a few weeks back. Fake news.

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:52:57am

re: #101 MsJ

Fascinating how he wrote in his name and won an elected position with only his own vote.

I wish Deray would have started a bit lower than mayor of a large city. Even if he has cred in his background to manage something like a city (don’t know about a city the size of Baltimore, though), but if he started as an alderman or whatever Baltimore has as an equivalent, I could see his star rising quickly.

I agree, but in a tweet I posted yesterday:

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:52:58am

re: #104 Alyosha

I fell for that one a few weeks back. Fake news.

I just noticed that. Damn it.

I got all the way to the bottom and noticed the “Scientology got their tax exempt status back.” I’m like “How?”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:53:55am

re: #95 darthstar

Finally> So Called “Church” Of Scientology Loses Tax Exempt Status By Unanimous SCOTUS Decision!

I want to see the Roman Catholic Church up next…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:54:58am

re: #101 MsJ

Fascinating how he wrote in his name and won an elected position with only his own vote.

I wish Deray would have started a bit lower than mayor of a large city. Even if he has cred in his background to manage something like a city (don’t know about a city the size of Baltimore, though), but if he started as an alderman or whatever Baltimore has as an equivalent, I could see his star rising quickly.

I said the same thing. I admire the hell out of Deray but he had a tough road eyeing the mayor’s office. I do wish him well.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:55:26am

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Hey you came around. People change. The difficult thing for me is I’m probably still not that hawkish but I don’t share the ultra doves hatred of drones either. I mean the drones are far from perfect I concede too. Foreign policy is difficult hence why I think both anti-war and hawkish types dumb it down way too much.

Ironically, I defer again to the judgement of a fool, Bill Maher, who I think referred to the drone program as ‘the least worst approach’ to terrorism.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:55:31am

re: #95 darthstar

Finally> So Called “Church” Of Scientology Loses Tax Exempt Status By Unanimous #SCOTUS Decision

.

Xenu will not be pleased.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:56:01am

re: #106 Belafon

But it was soooo good while it lasted, right?!

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MsJ  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:56:07am

re: #16 Dr. Matt

Rage Furby is losing his mind over Carly Fiorina….who wudda thunk it.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Facebook Post

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:57:01am

re: #109 Alyosha

Ironically, I defer again to the judgement of a fool, Bill Maher, who I think referred to the drone program as ‘the least worst approach’ to terrorism.

Heh I would have to agree with that as well. Civilian causalities suck no matter what but you’re going to have them if you use ground troops too.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:57:42am

re: #102 lizardofid

If one of the young-uns show interest in it, we might dig it out. By the time I got the top end finished (probably 15 years ago), I could barely throw my leg over it, much less kick it.

However, I believe as you do, “it can run again”

Feel ‘ya. I can still kick mine from a standing position, but it’s very difficult to get a knee past the pillion bag, even on the sidestand.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:58:33am

re: #112 MsJ

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

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It’s going to be funny to see him turn on Cruz after this. I imagine he’ll be submitting his resume to Corey and Trump soon and promising that he has dirt on Cruz.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 6:59:03am

re: #95 darthstar

Note the source - abcnews.com.co - my guess it’s a BS link/report. I don’t see any case reported through SCOTUSBlog or the S.Ct. docket.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:00:13am

re: #113 HappyWarrior

Heh I would have to agree with that as well. Civilian causalities suck no matter what but you’re going to have them if you use ground troops too.

If I want to apply irony one last time, in the case of Pakistan, at least, the necessity of the drone campaign has its genesis in the unwillingness of the Pakistan government to deal with the Taliban as if it weren’t already more of an existential threat than India.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:00:38am

re: #102 lizardofid

If one of the young-uns show interest in it, we might dig it out. By the time I got the top end finished (probably 15 years ago), I could barely throw my leg over it, much less kick it.

However, I believe as you do, “it can run again”

Posted yet again, for inspiration:

Lossa Engineering’s short film “Solus”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:01:05am

re: #116 lawhawk

Note the source - abcnews.com.co - my guess it’s a BS link/report. I don’t see any case reported through SCOTUSBlog or the S.Ct. docket.

nor do I recall any news of this case being up for ruling, seems like it woulda been a big deal

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:01:15am

re: #117 Alyosha

If I want to apply irony one last time, in the case of Pakistan, at least, the necessity of the drone campaign has its genesis in the unwillingness of the Pakistan government to deal with the Taliban as if it weren’t already more of an existential threat than India.

I really need to read more. I was not aware of that. That doesn’t surprise me at all though.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:02:00am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

nor do I recall any news of this case being up for ruling, seems like it woulda been a big deal

Yeah, I think it would be all over the place if they lost their exempt status. Good eye by LH too, I’ve noticed that com.co on other things too.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:04:40am

re: #118 Decatur Deb

Thanks, forwarded to son in law.

(plan initiated)

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:05:08am

Without a will…

There’s the first problem. Most people don’t think about wills or other estate planning. Who wants to, or spend the money to do it.

Most people don’t have estates large enough to worry about estate taxes (at the fed or state level).

But I think there’s a whole bunch of assets that are controlled by entities, and not in Prince’s name directly, so quite a bit of his assets will be shielded.

What’s left of the estate will likely be split among Prince’s siblings since he left no wife or children.

Some people figure that his estate is worth $300 million. Or more. Or less. Whatever it is, it is considerable, and there will be taxes paid.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:07:27am

re: #120 HappyWarrior

I really need to read more. I was not aware of that. That doesn’t surprise me at all though.

I mean India could do a catastrophic amount of damage to Pakistan; enough to make India a quote-unquote ‘existential threat’. But it won’t. Nuclear war is bad for business.
But Pakistan has a septic balloon growing in its ass that only gets the frontier treatment (because it largely is).
If shit goes down internally, for whatever reason? Whole lotta nukes. For… that guy.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:10:52am

re: #95 darthstar

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Great News about Scientology.

As a side note, the picture of the Scientology Building is the Hospital where I was born. It used to be called Ceders of Lebanon. It’s on Sunset BLVD in Hollywood, CA.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:11:44am

re: #39 lawhawk

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That’s where Trump’s at. And the GOP is buying what he’s selling.

They don’t care that distant second place candidate Cruz picked has-been/also-ran Fiorina as a running mate considering neither has any chance of being nominated.

Though, it is quite possible that when Trump wins the nomination, he picks Fiorina as a running mate, which would mean that Fiorina gets to enjoy being on 2 losing GOP campaigns in the same year (not counting her own failed GOP run for the White House).

There was a tweet yesterday where Council on Foreign Relations member Max Boot ripped Trump for his speech yesterday. He was also on Chuckles Todd as the first guest yesterday and had a pretty good time ripping Trump on the show. He pointed out the bizarre inconsistencies, etc. I wanted to see if Todd fawned over the speech. He was typical Todd…being nothing. But Boot was fun.

Here is the clip…

Iframe

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:13:40am

re: #72 lizardofid

Decatur Deb,
we were cleaning out a back stall and I thought you would enjoy this.

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Is that an old XS650?

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:13:59am

re: #45 Dr. Matt

Salon is the first librul media account that I have blocked.

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Can they be considered liberal…or just cheap hit hunters playing to what they see as the best way to get readers? I know I sure don’t go there for much. It has sucked for some time.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:14:05am

re: #123 lawhawk

I fully expect right wingers to complain about this, and use it as a call to repeal the estate tax (again) - even though the revenue is sorely needed and the GOP has no intention of raising taxes elsewhere to cover for it shifting burdens from rich to everyone else through cutting services (or if they do, then it clearly results in shifting tax burdens from rich to everyone else).

I feel sorry for his family and friends that he didn’t do any estate planning, but I’m not sorry that his estate will be taxed.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:14:10am

re: #125 I Would Prefer Not To

Great News about Scientology.

As a side note, the picture of the Scientology Building is the Hospital where I was born. It used to be called Ceders of Lebanon. It’s on Sunset BLVD in Hollywood, CA.

Sadly, the story’s fake, as noted later.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:15:46am

re: #127 William Lewis

Is that an old XS650?

Smaller, older ancestor—SR500.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:15:48am

re: #127 William Lewis

500cc, Deb can confirm, but I believe it is an SR

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:16:00am

re: #129 lawhawk

I feel sorry for his family and friends that he didn’t do any estate planning, but I’m not sorry that his estate will be taxed.

That is too much money to leave hanging. Never know what might happen to you, even if you are not drug dependent…

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:17:18am

re: #129 lawhawk

I fully expect right wingers to complain about this, and use it as a call to repeal the estate tax (again) - even though the revenue is sorely needed and the GOP has no intention of raising taxes elsewhere to cover for it shifting burdens from rich to everyone else through cutting services (or if they do, then it clearly results in shifting tax burdens from rich to everyone else).

I feel sorry for his family and friends that he didn’t do any estate planning, but I’m not sorry that his estate will be taxed.

You bastard! Don’t you feel sorry for those with $5,450,000 estates (the top 0.2% of all estates)?

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:20:01am

re: #129 lawhawk

It’s a great reminder of why I believe in a 99% death tax. The 1% is a mechanism to allow for true heirlooms regardless of actual value .

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:20:40am

re: #85 Great White Snark

Would Hilary step up and push back again a bit harder on fellow Dems or lt this one slide? it would be an excellent indicator of real intent.

huffingtonpost.com

I think she has made lower costs on pharmaceuticals part of her whole campaign. I think she would push them. Also, Bernie will most likely make it a thing too at the convention.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:22:38am

re: #136 ObserverArt

I think she has made lower costs on pharmaceuticals part of her whole campaign. I think she would push them. Also, Bernie will most likely make it a thing too at the convention.

How many pharmaceutical companies contributed to her (and other) political campaigns?

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:22:52am

re: #131 Decatur Deb

Smaller, older ancestor—SR500.

Ah. I had an XS650 because I could not afford a Triumph. Similar shapes…

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:24:05am

re: #96 darthstar

Scientology was overdue for an ass whipping.

There should be an add-on extra tax for asshole cults.

Edit: So, it is a fake story…my point still stands. They are a cult of assholes. Very creepy assholes.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:24:41am

SIIIIGH!

I wish someone would look at me like this :(

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:26:46am

re: #140 Alyosha

Can Carly Fiorina save Ted Cruz’s candidacy?

No.

Next question.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:27:23am

re: #140 Alyosha

Can Carly Fiorina save Ted Cruz’s candidacy?

Ted Cruz, being a firm believer in God, could be a true “Holy President”, or HP for short, and I hope Carly does the same for that HP as she did for the other one….

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:27:34am

re: #140 Alyosha

The answer to Nate’s question is No. It wont. Carly can’t save Ted’s campaign. Carly couldn’t save her own, so why would anyone think adding her would save his?!

She’s not going to sway anyone away from voting for Trump, and that she got creamed in California when she ran there as a Senate candidate suggests that Californians don’t like her too much (gutting HP might have something to do with that).

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:29:04am

Jeeze. Chris Loesch is going to be shattered.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:29:23am
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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:29:35am

re: #138 William Lewis

Ah. I had an XS650 becsbecaI could not afford a Triumph. Similar shapes…

IIRC, Yamaha went from SR400 to SRX600 by doing little more than overbores. Last year they revived the line with an SR400 fuel injected ($6,000).

motorcycle-usa.com

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MsJ  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:29:55am

re: #105 Franklin

I agree, but in a tweet I posted yesterday:

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I understand and agree to a point. Yes, that’s important and is a function Bernie served (at one point). But Deray could and hopefully will be more effective inside the system where he can make decisions that will impact people.

Talking and moving the needle back and forth doesn’t really do much. It has to translate into action. Bernie’s message resonates so well because of that lack of action and what action is taken is often doing little but harm real people. That’s what’s so frustrating about Bernie. Yes, people like his message. And yes, many of us want what he wants. But this gal (me) wants action plans…how are you going to accomplish what you are saying? You have to do that from the inside.

And the post above about drug costs is a prime example. Money spoils everyone in politics. Dem, GOPer, it doesn’t matter. Crooks are crooks across the board and until there are consequences from lining one’s pockets while supposedly setting policy, nothing will change.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:38:53am

re: #138 William Lewis

Ah. I had an XS650 because I could not afford a Triumph. Similar shapes…

As DD can confirm, this SR500 is a single cylinder. Back in the day we might have called it a “thumper”.

:)

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:41:28am

re: #148 lizardofid

As DD can confirm, this SR500 is a single cylinder. Back in the day we might have called it a “thumper”.

:)

Counterbalancers are for wooses.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:42:18am

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

How many pharmaceutical companies contributed to her (and other) political campaigns?

I have no idea. I was just going on what she said in her campaigning. Also, what Bernie has wanted and will still push.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:42:47am

re: #146 Decatur Deb

IIRC, Yamaha went from SR400 to SRX600 by doing little more than overbores. Last year they revived the line with an SR400 fuel injected ($6,000).

motorcycle-usa.com

Given tech advances like the fi, I’ll bet the performance on this 400 would impress.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:44:05am

Any viewers of morning pap able to digest the truthiness of this quote?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:44:41am

re: #151 lizardofid

Given tech advances like the fi, I’ll bet the performance on this 400 would impress.

Certainly the fuel efficiency. My ‘80 gets 54 mpg, at least it did before the new carb.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:45:03am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Counterbalancers are for wooses.

Got to watch yourself when assembling the crank right? Chucked up in the lathe with a dead blow hammer?

:)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:46:25am

re: #152 Alyosha

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Any viewers of morning pap able to digest the truthiness of this quote?

If Trump had not been born the son of a millionaire, he would not be getting 0.5% of the vote…

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b_sharp  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:46:25am

re: #154 lizardofid

Got to watch yourself when assembling the crank right? Chucked up in the lathe with a dead blow hammer?

:)

Isn’t that how it’s supposed to be done?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:46:47am

re: #148 lizardofid

As DD can confirm, this SR500 is a single cylinder. Back in the day we might have called it a “thumper”.

:)

I had a ‘75 Suzuki T500 Titan 2-cycle 2-cylinder. Cold blooded as all get out to start, but once started it would run like mad. Would rattle you a bit at initial throttle but smoothed out nice once going.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:47:47am

Hillary’s reading that the primary is over, and therefore no need to run ads (which cost money). GOTV is more important than ads anyways - and that stat doesn’t reflect how much is going to the GOTV effort.

Meanwhile, Bernie’s staff cuts go to his very viability (which is toast). He’s got money to burn, which is why he’s continuing the trend of outspending Hillary on ads while losing state after state (he outspent Hillary on the just concluded Middle Atlantic/Northeast primaries by a wide margin ).

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:49:21am

re: #156 b_sharp

I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t slightly taken aback when the procedure for balancing the crank was explained to me.

lol

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:49:58am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Counterbalancers are for wooses.

A college friend had one of the Harley single poppers back in the late 70s. I think it was a ‘73 Sprinter.

It reminded me of a dirt track racer.

Speaking of dirt track racers and bike history…I still remember watching a few bike races when I was little dude with my older brothers. Ronnie Rall was the hot Ohio boy we would see at the local Ohio tracks. Pretty good racer!

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:50:16am

re: #154 lizardofid

Got to watch yourself when assembling the crank right? Chucked up in the lathe with a dead blow hammer?

:)

Numb-butt guaranteed. My longest 1 day trip was from northern NJ to Aberdeen Proving Ground in MD. Beautiful Spring ride going out, sleet storm coming back a week later. Best ride was from Vicenza, through the Italian pre-Alps to Trent, returning through Verona, with a daughter 2-up.

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:50:41am

re: #158 lawhawk

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Hillary’s reading that the primary is over, and therefore no need to run ads (which cost money). GOTV is more important than ads anyways - and that stat doesn’t reflect how much is going to the GOTV effort.

Meanwhile, Bernie’s staff cuts go to his very viability (which is toast). He’s got money to burn, which is why he’s continuing the trend of outspending Hillary on ads while losing state after state (he outspent Hillary on the just concluded Middle Atlantic/Northeast primaries by a wide margin ).

Imagine what Sanders could pull off with Wall Street at his back…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:50:51am

re: #123 lawhawk

I’m 41 and have a will. I want my 20 year old nephew to get my Intellivision.

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makeitstop  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:51:29am

re: #1 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Toity doity boids on Toity-toid Street, choipin’ anna boipin’ anna eatin’ doity woims.
— Old NYC proverb

Added the missing bit. :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:51:42am

re: #162 Alyosha

Imagine what Sanders could pull off with Wall Street at his back…

Flip side: Imagine what Wall Street would no longer be able to get away with if Bernie were really on their backs…

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:51:49am

re: #157 Eventual Carrion

I had a ‘75 Suzuki T500 Titan 2-cycle 2-cylinder. Cold blooded as all get out to start, but once started it would run like mad. Would rattle you a bit at initial throttle but smoothed out nice once going.

Power band was something like 12,900 to 13,000 rpm?

;)

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:51:51am

re: #95 darthstar

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Fake news sites are the devil.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:54:07am

re: #152 Alyosha

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Any viewers of morning pap able to digest the truthiness of this quote?

Yes. I heard it. I wasn’t directly watching as I was just firing up my computers, I would have liked to see Guthrie’s look.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:55:07am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Numb-butt guaranteed. My longest 1 day trip was from northern NJ to Aberdeen Proving Ground in MD. Beautiful Spring ride going out, sleet storm coming back a week later. Best ride was from Vicenza, through the Italian pre-Alps to Trent, returning through Verona, with a daughter 2-up.

OOPS. Different trip—no daughter on the Trentino leg.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:55:14am

re: #158 lawhawk

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Hillary’s reading that the primary is over, and therefore no need to run ads (which cost money). GOTV is more important than ads anyways - and that stat doesn’t reflect how much is going to the GOTV effort.

Meanwhile, Bernie’s staff cuts go to his very viability (which is toast). He’s got money to burn, which is why he’s continuing the trend of outspending Hillary on ads while losing state after state (he outspent Hillary on the just concluded Middle Atlantic/Northeast primaries by a wide margin ).

All those evil PAC will do the dirty work for her!

Heh.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:55:16am

re: #167 Stanley Sea

WHOAAAAAAAAAA

It’s going down.

Fake. A bunch of us fell for it.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:56:02am

re: #152 Alyosha

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Any viewers of morning pap able to digest the truthiness of this quote?

Of course not, he’s a sexist pig. Someone should actually ask him why the fuck this country should elect him without any elected experience or anything resembling what Washington and Eisenhower had as generals who had extensive interactions with government.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:56:32am

re: #95 darthstar

Parody site……

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:56:32am

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Numb-butt guaranteed. My longest 1 day trip was from northern NJ to Aberdeen Proving Ground in MD. Beautiful Spring ride going out, sleet storm coming back a week later. Best ride was from Vicenza, through the Italian pre-Alps to Trent, returning through Verona, with a daughter 2-up.

Bella!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:56:37am

Just checked 538 to see how Clinton vs. Sanders is now. It’s been close for awhile from what I can recall… 2% points or so. Now its just a few 0.x ticks away from Clinton being up by 10%. Updated yesterday.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:57:13am

re: #95 darthstar

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It’s fake. fuck.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:57:49am

re: #171 Belafon

Fake. A bunch of us fell for it.

Yeah, it struck me after the fact that a case like this would not have just fallen out of the sky, there would’ve been a big hoo-hah in the run-up.

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plansbandc  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:58:05am

My ear worm right now.

Frances - Let It Out

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 7:58:42am

re: #164 makeitstop

Added the missing bit. :)

Thanks for the literary correction.
I left off the coib part, too.

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lizardofid  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:01:18am

A few chores beckon, later all.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:02:20am

Another Chinese SF writer has been nominated for a Hugo award — this is for best novelette. Folding Beijing, by Hao Jingfang.

You can read the whole thing (in English) at Uncanny Magazine. uncannymagazine.com

I recommend it. A quick read, but thought provoking.

And you can read my blog about it here. wheatdogg.com

I recommend that, too. ;-)

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:06:29am

re: #160 ObserverArt

A college friend had one of the Harley single poppers back in the late 70s. I think it was a ‘73 Sprinter.

It reminded me of a dirt track racer.

Speaking of dirt track racers and bike history…I still remember watching a few bike races when I was little dude with my older brothers. Ronnie Rall was the hot Ohio boy we would see at the local Ohio tracks. Pretty good racer!

Did a little digging and found Ronnie was rated pretty high. Here is a link to him in the AMA Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame is located here in Columbus. I haven’t gone to it, but might have to sometime. My one brother would like that for sure as he was the biker in the family.

I’ve always trusted myself with four wheels. Two scare the crap out of me after I crashed a Rupp Torque Converter Mini-bike as a 15 year old when the handle bars collapsed on me and sent me head first into to the ground and to the hospital with a concussion. Lucky we were riding in a grassy field and not the roads.

AMA Hall of Fame - Ronnie Rall Entry

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:07:01am

Beyonce started her tour in Miami last night. It was fun following the tweets.

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Nojay UK  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:07:16am

re: #175 GlutenFreeJesus

Just checked 538 to see how Clinton vs. Sanders is now. It’s been close for awhile from what I can recall… 2% points or so. Now its just a few 0.x ticks away from Clinton being up by 10%. Updated yesterday.

They included a crazy-outlier Ipsos online poll that has Senator Clinton ahead by 30-odd points. Not real, even with the lesser value ascribed to it in their weighted average. She is still comfortably ahead, enough that she can throttle back on the primary race, accept some reduction in her delegate vote totals in future competitions and start concentrating on the general election to come.

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:07:40am

re: #48 darthstar

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:08:09am

re: #185 gocart mozart

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Psst they said “pretends”.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:11:36am

I just skipped all the comments of the day so that I could post this link:

wuis.org

for those who want to understand what is happening to the formerly great state of Illinois with the election of a ‘businessman with no previous political experience.’

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:21:18am

re: #187 retired cynic

I just skipped all the comments of the day so that I could post this link:

wuis.org

for those who want to understand what is happening to the formerly great state of Illinois with the election of a ‘businessman with no previous political experience.’

It is a sign of how fed up people are with politicians and politics as usual that they come to believe that a complete outsider with a strong will and an iron fist can come in and make everything right again.

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William Lewis  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:22:41am

re: #181 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Another Chinese SF writer has been nominated for a Hugo award — this is for best novelette. Folding Beijing, by Hao Jingfang.

You can read the whole thing (in English) at Uncanny Magazine. uncannymagazine.com

I recommend it. A quick read, but thought provoking.

And you can read my blog about it here. wheatdogg.com

I recommend that, too. ;-)

Thanks You! :)

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Alyosha  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:29:02am

If for no other reason than I’m listening to this as I drift off.

Silversun Pickups- Lazy Eye (with lyrics)

Bon soir.

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:30:05am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:31:18am

Supreme Court: Isn’t That $175,000 Bribe Really Just $175,000 ‘Speech’?

It is an excellent question. Are we criminalizing “everyday acts” of grifting and greed? And is that really fair? Wasn’t Bob McDonnell’s pal just giving him $175,000 worth of speech? Why do you hate the First Amendment, “good government” jerks?

Wait for the Supreme Court to legalize bribery in Citizens United 2: The Griftening, coming whenever, unless Scalia stays dead.

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gocart mozart  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:31:52am
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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:32:08am

re: #191 gocart mozart

Indictments of Trump, Hillary or Bernie would certainly be a big deal! Please cite the law that Hillary allegedly violated.

She sent top secret e-mails on a private server to Benghazi to cover up her role in Whitewater and the Vince Foster murder!!!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:32:23am

re: #191 gocart mozart

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I thought no one cared about Hillary’s damn emails. I see Cenk is pulling a Krauthammer. Attacking about a hypothetical situation. He has no idea what the Democratic party would be saying if Bernie were in that situation.

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KerFuFFler  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:32:52am

re: #99 Belafon

The case was brought forward by the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division after concluding a two-year-long investigation into the inner workings of Scientology. The investigation, along with an extensive audit, found the group to be a “criminal operation with a sole purpose of making money”.

UPDATE 4/28/16: The Church of Scientology has regained their tax-exempt status within the United States.

WTF

Aha, freakin’ fake news…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:32:53am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is a sign of how fed up people are with politicians and politics as usual that they come to believe that a complete outsider with a strong will and an iron fist can come in and make everything right again.

I’m sure I’m being totally partisan on this, but I truly think that the current disgust of so much of the general public with “politicians and politics as usual” is because of the GOP.

“Politics as usual” USED TO mean that deals were cut and compromises made in the course of actually doing something. Now, we have no deals and compromises, and nothing getting done, and all because the GOP 1) decided to go all obstruction all the time on Obama, and 2) anyone willing to compromise to get things done has been purged from the GOP.

So, people look at Congress doing shutdowns and brinksmanship games and they get disgusted, and send EVEN MORE EXTREME people to Washington. And the Media, with their “Both Sides Do It” reporting exacerbate the problem.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:33:29am

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Supreme Court: Isn’t That $175,000 Bribe Really Just $175,000 ‘Speech’?

Agh. And of course McDonnell was one of these that got elected and re-elected because he was “tough” on crime.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:35:45am

re: #198 HappyWarrior

Agh. And of course McDonnell was one of these that got elected and re-elected because he was “tough” on crime.

But the SC made bribery legal, so no crime.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:36:28am

re: #197 Blind Frog Belly White

I’m sure I’m being totally partisan on this, but I truly think that the current disgust of so much of the general public with “politicians and politics as usual” is because of the GOP.

I do tend to agree that people are fed up with grandstanding and hyperbole in place of solutions to problems, and most of that can be laid at the GOP’s doorstep.

But then they replace it with more blovating and hyperbole from people who have no political record to attack because they have no background in politics.

There are many aspects in which it is good to run government like a business: cutting waste and inefficiency, etc., but governments do not exist to make a profit, they exist to benefit their citizens, or rather, the Universal Shareholders.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:41:48am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I do tend to agree that people are fed up with grandstanding and hyperbole in place of solutions to problems, and most of that can be laid at the GOP’s doorstep.

But then they replace it with more blovating and hyperbole from people who have no political record to attack because they have no background in politics.

There are many aspects in which it is good to run government like a business: cutting waste and inefficiency, etc., but governments do not exist to make a profit, they exist to benefit the public, or rather, the Universal Shareholders.

“Government is dysfunctional. Elect the people that honestly make it dysfunctional.”

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:43:12am

re: #185 gocart mozart

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:43:25am

re: #201 Belafon

“Government is dysfunctional. Elect the people that honestly make it dysfunctional.”

“We’re here from the private sector and we’re here to help you!”

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:43:30am

re: #199 Eventual Carrion

But the SC made bribery legal, so no crime.

Citizens United, man what an awful decision.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:44:58am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:47:23am

re: #205 lawhawk

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Anti-vaxxers are along with the religious right the most dangerous and wreckless part of American politics today.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:47:45am

re: #164 makeitstop

Added the missing bit. :)

What about ‘sittin’ on a coib stone’?

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:49:43am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

Anti-vaxxers are along with the religious right the most dangerous and wreckless part of American politics today.

It is the combination of moonbattery (anti-big pharma and anti-“Western” medicine) combining with wingnuttery (distrust of science in general and of government in the form of vaccination programs) that has led to this totally toxic level of stupidity.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:50:52am

re: #207 retired cynic

What about ‘sittin’ on a coib stone’?

Yeah, I fergot dat pawt.

Toity doity boids, sittin’ on da coib on Toity Toid Street, choipin anna boiping an’ eatin doity woims.

Tanks.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:51:10am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is the combination of moonbattery (anti-big pharma and anti-“Western” medicine) combining with wingnuttery (distrust of science in general and of government in the form of vaccination programs) that has led to this totally toxic level of stupidity.

Derp is a flat circle.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:52:36am

re: #207 retired cynic

What about ‘sittin’ on a coib stone’?

re: #209 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Yeah, I fergot dat pawt.

Toity doity boids, sittin’ on da coib on Toity Toid Street, choipin anna boiping an’ eatin doity woims.

Tanks.

Youse guys—adjoin to the adjournin’ room!

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:52:59am

re: #208 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It is the combination of moonbattery (anti-big pharma and anti-“Western” medicine) combining with wingnuttery (distrust of science in general and of government in the form of vaccination programs) that has led to this totally toxic level of stupidity.

Yes. It doesn’t have ideological boundaries.

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Jenner7  Apr 28, 2016 • 8:58:53am

Fuck these people.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:00:04am

re: #213 Jenner7

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:00:41am

re: #213 Jenner7

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Fuck these people.

Really fuck them. This party man. What a bunch of fucking assholes. Must be nice to be a Republican and feel so good about screwing poor kids over. Real party of family values right there.

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Teukka  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:01:18am

re: #95 darthstar

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re: #96 darthstar

Scientology was overdue for an ass whipping.

UPDATE 4/28/16: The Church of Scientology has regained their tax-exempt status within the United States. Contact your local Representative to complain and have it removed.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:07:38am

reuters.com
And remember this guy isn’t right wing enough for the nutjobs and he claims that he was wrong to demonize poor people.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:08:05am

re: #213 Jenner7

Fuck these people.

The program they want to scale back was an interesting one. If a school had more than 40% of its students receiving free lunches, every kid at the school got free lunches. Republicans want to change the requirement to 60%. They’re not eliminating free lunches for those that need it. They’re just trying to cut back on the number of students getting free lunches that could actually afford it.

As the article states, having so many students on free lunches, and having to verify them, is a cost in paperwork and time that was probably recovered by just making everyone’s lunch free. This is one of those times where Republicans aren’t actually going to save anything, because I bet this doesn’t cost much anyway.

I grew up on free and reduced lunches.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:09:23am

re: #218 Belafon

The program they want to scale back was an interesting one. If a school had more than 40% of its students receiving free lunches, every kid at the school got free lunches. Republicans want to change the requirement to 60%. They’re not eliminating free lunches for those that need it. They’re just trying to cut back on the number of students getting free lunches that could actually afford it.

As the article states, having so many students on free lunches, and having to verify them, is a cost in paperwork and time that was probably recovered by just making everyone’s lunch free. This is one of those times where Republicans aren’t actually going to save anything, because I bet this doesn’t cost much anyway.

I grew up on free and reduced lunches.

They’re the ones that love to whine about administrative cost of government programs but love them some government regulations to make using the program as burdensome as possible.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:10:05am

re: #218 Belafon

The program they want to scale back was an interesting one. If a school had more than 40% of its students receiving free lunches, every kid at the school got free lunches. Republicans want to change the requirement to 60%. They’re not eliminating free lunches for those that need it. They’re just trying to cut back on the number of students getting free lunches that could actually afford it.

As the article states, having so many students on free lunches, and having to verify them, is a cost in paperwork and time that was probably recovered by just making everyone’s lunch free. This is one of those times where Republicans aren’t actually going to save anything, because I bet this doesn’t cost much anyway.

I grew up on free and reduced lunches.

So it’s just them being dicks to kids. Really need to change that elephant to Biff from Back to the Future.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:11:02am

re: #218 Belafon

The program they want to scale back was an interesting one. If a school had more than 40% of its students receiving free lunches, every kid at the school got free lunches. Republicans want to change the requirement to 60%. They’re not eliminating free lunches for those that need it. They’re just trying to cut back on the number of students getting free lunches that could actually afford it.

As the article states, having so many students on free lunches, and having to verify them, is a cost in paperwork and time that was probably recovered by just making everyone’s lunch free. This is one of those times where Republicans aren’t actually going to save anything, because I bet this doesn’t cost much anyway.

I grew up on free and reduced lunches.

They would rather waste money on administrative costs than waste it on feeding kids?

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:11:38am

re: #218 Belafon

The program they want to scale back was an interesting one. If a school had more than 40% of its students receiving free lunches, every kid at the school got free lunches. Republicans want to change the requirement to 60%. They’re not eliminating free lunches for those that need it. They’re just trying to cut back on the number of students getting free lunches that could actually afford it.

As the article states, having so many students on free lunches, and having to verify them, is a cost in paperwork and time that was probably recovered by just making everyone’s lunch free. This is one of those times where Republicans aren’t actually going to save anything, because I bet this doesn’t cost much anyway.

I grew up on free and reduced lunches.

At my girls private school they have the full price and the reduced price. My girls don’t notice as they are too young, but the older kids I bet do and it causes a stigma. Make them all free or all reduced and subsidize it from somewhere else.

You know one way to make more poor people? Keep reminding their kids that they are.

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:12:41am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They would rather waste money on administrative costs than waste it on feeding kids?

See: Drug testing for Welfare.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:14:23am

re: #223 Franklin

See: Drug testing for Welfare.

Exactly.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:15:00am

re: #222 Franklin

At my girls private school they have the full price and the reduced price. My girls don’t notice as they are too young, but the older kids I bet do and it causes a stigma. Make them all free or all reduced and subsidize it from somewhere else.

You know one way to make more poor people? Keep reminding their kids that they are.

Kind of like Newt’s “brilliant” idea to have poor students be janitors.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:16:58am

The elementary school I grew up in would have easily qualified under this program. It was probably 70%. We used to have the RIF (Reading is Fundamental) truck come every other month to give out free books (I got a book on cryptography in the 5th grade).

Our punishment came later. They sent the poor kids to the farther away middle school to keep us out of the nicer one.

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:18:25am

re: #226 Belafon

Upding to you for the 1st paragraph, downding to the school board for the second.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:18:30am

re: #223 Franklin

See: Drug testing for Welfare.

…and the basis of their opposition to ACA. Better to have people paying too much for unregulated private insurance (or going uninsured, driving up costs for everyone else) than to have people paying less overall for a government-regulated program

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:19:30am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Kind of like Newt’s “brilliant” idea to have poor students be janitors.

Not unheard of in some countries. Third-world countries, mind you…

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:24:54am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Not unheard of in some countries. Third-world countries, mind you…

It’s common in China, especially at the poorer schools.

No one cleans the restrooms/latrines, though, as near as I can tell — anywhere. The oldest part of our university campus, which has buildings dating from 1958, still has pit toilets adjacent to a classroom building.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:27:04am

re: #230 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

It’s common in China, especially at the poorer schools.

No one cleans the restrooms/latrines, though, as near as I can tell — anywhere. The oldest part of our university campus, which has buildings dating from 1958, still has pit toilets adjacent to a classroom building.

Well, since America’s labor, safety and environmental standards are all going the way of China (we have to in order to remain competitive), then our schools should also reflect those changes…

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sagehen  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:29:03am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

They would rather waste money on administrative costs than waste it on feeding kids?

See, e.g., drug-testing food-stamp recipients.

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Jenner7  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:29:13am

Lyin’ Ted and Lyin’ Carly. Two peas in a pod.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:30:30am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Well, since America’s labor, safety and environmental standards are all going the way of China (we have to in order to remain competitive), then our schools should also reflect those changes…

China and the States will converge, then trade places, at least if the most conservative GOP plans succeed.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:32:44am

re: #233 Jenner7

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Lyin’ Ted and Lyin’ Carly. Two peas in a pod.

The Lyin’ Couple?

The Lyin’ King and the Lyin’ Queen?

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:34:50am

re: #235 b.d.

Carly-Cruz. When one liar isn’t sufficient for not winning a nomination.

Why have one liar when you have two for twice the price.

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plansbandc  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:45:06am
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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:46:04am

re: #237 plansbandc

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We are thinking about getting a second dog. I hope that my two are as good of pals as these two!

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:51:30am

re: #237 plansbandc

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re: #238 withak

We are thinking about getting a second dog. I hope that my two are as good of pals as these two!

My young beagle keeps trying to do that with my boxer. She’s having none of that. Which is pretty funny, since she always tried to snuggle with my old beagle.
And, he was having none of that…lol

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:53:12am

Good Morning all!

what are we talking about?

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:54:15am

re: #239 FormerDirtDart

My young beagle keeps trying to do that with my boxer. She’s having none of that. Which is pretty funny, since she always tried to snuggle with my old beagle.
And, he was having none of that…lol

Funny you should mention beagles and boxers; in our situation, the beagle will be the older dog, and what the adoption agency thinks is a blue heeler/boxer mix will potentially be the new puppy.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:54:28am

re: #238 withak

We are thinking about getting a second dog. I hope that my two are as good of pals as these two!

We find it takes about 2 weeks for pack order be established (or reestablished). In a year, it’s as if they had always been together. Cat’s or dogs.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:55:05am

re: #240 Gretchen Tiger

Good Morning all!

what are we talking about?

Republicans suck.
Don’t get fooled by abc.com.co. A fake website.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:55:36am

re: #243 Belafon

Republicans suck.
Don’t get fooled by abc.com.co. A fake website.

Yes they do and I won’t go there!

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:56:56am

re: #243 Belafon

Republicans suck.
Don’t get fooled by abc.com.co. A fake website.

It’s really scummy that a site operates with that as their domain name. Bad satire/fake news just adds nothing to public discourse except for confusion and anger.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:57:12am

Speaking of antivaxxers, From PZ’s place this morning:

Battling Infectious Diseases in the 20th Century: The Impact of Vaccines

Here’s the measles chart:

Had to take a screenshot for some unknown reason….

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:57:33am

re: #233 Jenner7

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Lyin’ Ted and Lyin’ Carly. Two peas in a pod.

And yet we’re supposed to believe her now? Man this is just sad. I know it’s always weird when a former primary opponent becomes the running mate but this just shows how amateurish Carly and Ted really are.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:57:51am

re: #245 withak

It’s really scummy that a site operates with that as their domain name. Bad satire/fake news just adds nothing to public discourse except for confusion and anger.

There’s a Huffington post like one too.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:57:55am

A teenager used my computer yesterday and now the font is huge!

aghhh

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:58:13am

So, I woke up this morning and my eyeglasses are missing.
I can’t see further than about five inches.
Best guess is that one of the cats took them to add to the collection of treasures hidden under the bed, but I can’t see well enough to look for them.

Right now I do believe that the dead mouse in the boot was definitely the preferred car prank…

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:59:12am

re: #249 Gretchen Tiger

A teenager used my computer yesterday and now the font is huge!

aghhh

Chrome? Ctrl-0 (zero).

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 9:59:18am

re: #246 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Speaking of antivaxxers, From PZ’s place this morning:

Battling Infectious Diseases in the 20th Century: The Impact of Vaccines

Here’s the measles chart:

Embedded Image

Had to take a screenshot for some unknown reason….

Weird how that works, huh?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:00:08am

re: #251 withak

Chrome? Ctrl-0 (zero).

thanks and yes, but it’s not working. Using a macbook.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:00:11am

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

So, I woke up this morning and my eyeglasses are missing.
I can’t see further than about five inches.
Best guess is that one of the cats took them to add to the collection of treasures hidden under the bed, but I can’t see well enough to look for them.

Right now I do believe that the dead mouse in the boot was definitely the preferred car prank…

Mine kept knocking them off the bedside table—always behind it of course. Now I have to put them in the drawer and close it.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:00:42am

re: #254 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Mine kept knocking them off the bedside table—always behind it of course. Now I have to put them in the drawer and close it.

You did something and now you must atone. Your Feline Overlord is not happy.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:01:46am

re: #253 Gretchen Tiger

thanks and yes, but it’s not working. Using a macbook.

On a Mac, might be a different button. Option? The one that looks like an inverted four-leaf-clover?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:02:51am

re: #249 Gretchen Tiger

A teenager used my computer yesterday and now the font is huge!

aghhh

You need a bigger monitor. ;)

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:03:04am

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Citizens United, man what an awful decision.

Maybe the GOP and the Supremes will try to create new legislation to change/reverse it after the GOP big money backers decide it isn’t worth all money they are spending and getting their asses kicked by the Dems and Trump doing it on the cheap.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:03:10am

re: #256 withak

On a Mac, might be a different button. Option? The one that looks like an inverted four-leaf-clover?

nope —I’ll just live with it until I remember how to change it —or I could muster-up some google-fu.

I’m still on my first cuppa.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:04:25am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

Really fuck them. This party man. What a bunch of fucking assholes. Must be nice to be a Republican and feel so good about screwing poor kids over. Real party of family values right there.

They value their families!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:04:40am

re: #259 Gretchen Tiger

support.google.com

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:07:06am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

support.google.com

God, you are awesome!

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:07:14am

re: #241 withak

Funny you should mention beagles and boxers; in our situation, the beagle will be the older dog, and what the adoption agency thinks is a blue heeler/boxer mix will potentially be the new puppy.

I got my old beagle from Animal Care & Control when he was around 5 yrs old. Then found my boxer sitting on someones front porch about 4 yrs later, she was about a year old then.
It was great timing, as he was starting to get kind of lethargic. She brought a lot of youthful energy out of him.
Unfortunately not even 3 yrs later bone cancer took him.
I waited a year, almost to the day, before I brought home my current beagle. He was 4 months old then, turned 3 two weeks ago.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:07:27am

Penned by Mike Rosolio, the story begins at the start of the ex-president’s second term when he falls into dementia and an ambitious intern is tasked with convincing the commander in chief that he is an actor playing the president in a movie.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:09:17am

re: #223 Franklin

See: Drug testing for Welfare.

It all makes their sad sack backers feel like the GOP is doing something and making sure they aren’t getting ripped off for tax money.

You know you need to watch those evil Democrats, they are all the time taking advantage of people!

Which is strange, because I have a feeling many of their supporters have kids that need these types of programs. They are just concerned that ‘those’ people may be taking too much away from their kids…or they don’t want to pay for ‘those’ people, they just want it for their families.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:10:02am

re: #260 ObserverArt

They value their families!

I’m so tired of hearing people say “I’m tired of paying for so and so” meaning they don’t want to pay taxes.

I want to remind them about the French Revolution, but somehow, I don’t think it would work.

People get hung up on anecdotal information about welfare-queens and people who they perceive as getting something for nothing.

It’s best just to change the subject.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:10:50am

re: #262 Gretchen Tiger

God, you are awesome!

Imagine how good I am when I can actually SEE!

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:11:03am

re: #263 FormerDirtDart

I got my old beagle from Animal Care & Control when he was around 5 yrs old. Then found my boxer sitting on someones front porch about 4 yrs later, she was about a year old then.
It was great timing, as he was starting to get kind of lethargic. She brought a lot of youthful energy out of him.
Unfortunately not even 3 yrs later bone cancer took him.
I waited a year, almost to the day, before I brought home my current beagle. He was 4 months old then, turned 3 two weeks ago.

Our first dog was a beagle, and we got our second beagle when the first was nine. Sadly, cancer took her suddenly quite soon after that. They only got about six months together.

This time, we’re not waiting as long; the second beagle is now almost five, and we’ve decided to go with adoption this time. My wife fell in love with a dog that a high school friend is fostering, so that has moved up our timetable for adoption a bit; I was hoping to wait until the kids were out of school for the summer, but I won’t win that battle now.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:12:02am

re: #266 Gretchen Tiger

“I’m tired of paying for other people’s kids!”

“Well, I’m tired of pissing away billions on DoD boondoggles that don’t do shit.”

“Commie.”

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:12:31am

I love beagles! —had a couple in my life.

very cuddly.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:13:31am

re: #269 Kragar

“I’m tired of paying for other people’s kids!”

“Well, I’m tired of pissing away billions on DoD boondoggles that don’t do shit.”

“Commie.”

I for one really like being able to sit in my living room and not worry about about the starving, unwashed masses trying to get in to eat my food.

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Lidane  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:14:07am
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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:14:21am

re: #264 Kragar

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Could be fun.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:15:19am

re: #272 Lidane

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I have to give Boehner some grudging respect for not endorsing Cruz just because he’s not Trump. Boehner’s an asshole but he’s not as vile as Cruz is.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:15:28am

“Socialism!”

I’m tired of that word as well.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:17:23am

Cruz is delusional! Fiorina is so obviously a token VP —almost as unqualified as Palin. This move is a last ditch effort and is pitiful.

I almost feel embarrassed for Cruz.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:18:20am

Speaker Ryan hints that the long missing GOP alternative to the ACA may make an appearance around the time of the GOP convention. However, he’s also hinting that the GOP alternative drops a bunch of things that folks might find useful.

Like eliminating the ACA restriction against pre-existing conditions.

Ryan’s basically stating the GOP position is to screw sick people. Stick them with the costs, while everyone else suffers due to a sicker society (health wise).

The GOP immorality and craven pursuit of sucking every last penny out of those who aren’t rich continues apace. Sure, the GOP isn’t hiking taxes, but there are burdens that everyone pays for in one way or another, and those are hidden taxes and costs that we all share as part of society. Eliminating ACA protections is a cost being shifted from those who can afford to pay to those who can’t.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:18:27am

Jane, you aren’t helping.

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:18:53am

re: #276 Gretchen Tiger

Cruz is delusional! Fiorina is so obviously a token VP —almost as unqualified as Palin. This move is a last ditch effort and is pitiful.

I almost feel embarrassed for Cruz.

Palin at least has experience with elected office, as poorly as that might have turned out for the state of Alaska.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:19:08am

re: #276 Gretchen Tiger

Cruz is delusional! Fiorina is so obviously a token VP —almost as unqualified as Palin. This move is a last ditch effort and is pitiful.

I almost feel embarrassed for Cruz.

Still laughing over this:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:19:57am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane, you aren’t helping.

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She may be one of his worst surrogates and that’s saying something.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:20:05am

re: #276 Gretchen Tiger

Cruz is delusional! Fiorina is so obviously a token VP —almost as unqualified as Palin. This move is a last ditch effort and is pitiful.

I almost feel embarrassed for Cruz.

My mother had open heart surgery yesterday (three blocked arteries) and my wife was talking to some of the members of the church my parents go to. One of them, not sure what his politics are, told her that Cruz had picked Fiorina and even he said “don’t you actually have to get the nomination in order to pick a running mate?”

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withak  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:20:17am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane, you aren’t helping.

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And I’d like Bernie a lot more if he’d just concede, but apparently, that isn’t happening, either.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:21:28am

re: #279 withak

Palin at least has experience with elected office, as poorly as that might have turned out for the state of Alaska.

Right. I mean as much as I disliked Palin and man do I ever, the woman at least worked her way up in politics by first being on the Wasalia city council and then its mayor and then as governor of Alaska. A total idiot who was a terrible VP choice but one that actually had some experience with politics and wasn’t an idiotic business person who thinks that business and government running are the same thing.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:21:44am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane, you aren’t helping.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *breathe* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And Hillary would get all the votes in a one person race.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:21:54am

re: #283 withak

And I’d like Bernie a lot more if he’d just concede, but apparently, that isn’t happening, either.

The dog and pony show will run it’s course.

I’m ignoring it as best I can.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:22:47am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane, you aren’t helping.

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Jane, you Ignorant SLUT

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:25:27am

I have a question for any folks out there that work on either WordPress or MediaWiki php web sites that use MySQL databases. I did a .sql (compressed) database backup of a Wiki site that I have been building. My backup today created a smaller .sql file than a backup .sql file I did about 2 weeks ago when I first started building some pages.

Have you seen that occur before and do you have any reason why it does?

Maybe it is the way the file compresses when writing.

It caught me out. I thought the file would grow larger as I build the site pages, upload more photos and the like. The site seems fine. The newer entries are all there. I just want to make sure I have good database backups. I get paranoid about backups…and I will be having some other people help me add pages and want to back up the database often.

Who knows, maybe the host server hamsters were more efficient today and packed more into the file than the previous time.

I hope Charles and maybe Curious and some others can explain the hamster activity.

Thanks!

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Lidane  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:25:54am

DUCK AND COVER!

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:27:16am

re: #269 Kragar

“I’m tired of paying for other people’s kids!”

“Well, I’m tired of pissing away billions on DoD boondoggles that don’t do shit.”

“Commie.”

Who was that gave the stirring speech about the kid who longed for a brown paper bag that mommy lovingly packed for him instead of a heartless government lunch?

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:27:47am

re: #278 Backwoods_Sleuth

Jane, you aren’t helping.

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These people need to go back to Vermont. They are making asses of themselves and not helping anyone.

The dislike for them is building. Can’t they see it?

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:27:57am

re: #290 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Paul Ryan

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:28:03am

re: #289 Lidane

DUCK AND COVER!

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Yes, forget missiles in Cuba, Target allowing transgendered people to use the bathroom will usher in the nuclear holocaust. Mr. Willes desperately needs to see someone about the obvious psychiatric problems he has. And I have to say after hearing some second hand stuff about these Evangelical churches, it’s not just theatrical bullshit, these nutjobs really believe this shit.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:29:48am

re: #286 Birth Control Works

The dog and pony show will run it’s course.

I’m ignoring it as best I can.

Hey…you keep changing your name…it is hard to follow who you are! This time in mid-thread.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:30:17am

As the opioid epidemic continues to grow nationally, the company that makes a medication to block the effects of an opioid overdose said it will give a free carton of the antidote to any U.S. high school.

Adapt Pharma, maker of the Narcan nasal spray, announced the move today.

I bet Adapt Pharma is pretty damn confident that they won’t have to donate very many doses. You just know a whole hell of a lot of Rep. Governors and legislatures will block local school boards from accessing this…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:30:40am

re: #291 ObserverArt

These people need to go back to Vermont. They are making asses of themselves and not helping anyone.

The dislike for them is building. Can’t they see it?

Unfortunately their diehards can’t see it. They really think people are voting for Clinton out of distress and deep down want them some Bernie. Really, Bernie and Jane really aren’t helping the progressive movement at all with their rhetoric. I’ll happily defend liberalism and progressivism but Jane and Bernie are making our ideology look snobby and feeding the idea that liberals think we know what’s best for everyone else. Jane cant’ get over the fact that her hubby’s campaign flat out has been terrible at how it does with minority voters and furthermore can’t acknowledge how good her husband’s opponent does with them.

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CleverToad  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:31:52am

re: #282 Belafon

My mother had open heart surgery yesterday (three blocked arteries) and my wife was talking to some of the members of the church my parents go to. One of them, not sure what his politics are, told her that Cruz had picked Fiorina and even he said “don’t you actually have to get the nomination in order to pick a running mate?”

Good wishes for your mom! Mine had a quadruple bypass in 2003 (the day after my 4-yr-old had an appendectomy - fun times). Mom’s 91 now and the ticker is still working, so I’d call it a successful surgery.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:33:40am

Well the latest is FDR got nominated in a contested convention is what they’re saying. So, let me get this straight. You NOW want the party insiders aka the DNC delegates to choose Bernie over Clinton despite the fact that more voters prefer her over him. Okay then, your hypocrisy is duly noted, now please tell me why the superdelegates are the bad guys and you’re examples of democratic virtue because ti seems to me, it’s wores than Bernie or Bust, it’s Bernie and I don’t care if we don’t respect the votes of other voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:33:44am

hmmm.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:34:30am

re: #294 ObserverArt

Hey…you keep changing your name…it is hard to follow who you are! This time in mid-thread.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

I try to make it as obvious as possible.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:34:41am

re: #289 Lidane

DUCK AND COVER!

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Boy, these idiots just won’t give up on Russia, will they? Have they been living in a cave for the last 25 years?

(I guess to ask the question is to answer it….)

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:34:59am

re: #264 Kragar

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I love biography’s,

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:35:46am

“I regretfully introduce this amendment,” Hunter said, noting later he might not vote for it. “My daughters talk about serving. My son talks about serving, but I don’t want to put my daughters in a place where they have to get drafted.”

Hunter is deeply opposed to women in combat. Earlier this year he said the efforts of Navy Secretary Ray Mabus to open up Marine combat positions for women made him a “a greater threat to the Marine Corps than ISIS.” Hunter seemed to want to use his amendment on drafting women to force the issue, hoping other lawmakers would finally see the light.

And so it fell to Hunter to highlight just how gruesome the draft would be for women.

“The draft is there to get more people to rip the enemies’ throats out and kill them…That is what a draft is for,” Hunter said.

Unfortunately for Hunter, a lot of Members on the committee thought requiring women to sign up for the draft was a pretty good step forward on the equality front. The amendment passed 32 to 30. There are currently 12 women serving on the committee.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:36:11am

re: #300 Birth Control Works

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

I try to make it as obvious as possible.

Well, as soon as I saw the new name I figured it was you. The Gretchen Tiger wasn’t as easy though. What was that one about…I may have missed something?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:37:01am

re: #303 Kragar

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Wonder how Israel does it?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:37:49am

re: #303 Kragar

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If a woman is able, there’s no reason she shouldn’t be able to serve in combat. R’s love to talk about how they “stand with Israel” and yet here we are implementing a policy that resembles Israel’s in regards to service. There are literally thousands of women out there who would make better infantry soldiers than me. For Rep. Hunter to suggest that simply by being women these women are unfit for combat is sexist and backwards as hell.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:38:28am

re: #305 Birth Control Works

Wonder how Israel does it?

They love Israel except when their policies are the total opposite of Israel’s and actually resemble what Hamas believes about women, gays, and people who aren’t their religion.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:42:35am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

They love Israel except when their policies are the total opposite of Israel’s and actually resemble what Hamas believes about women, gays, and people who aren’t their religion.

Israel also has a liberal abortion policy.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:43:13am
this
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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:43:34am

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Hell, even if combat roles were still restricted to men, drafting women still makes perfect sense. Every infantryman requires several people in support roles (Comms, Transport, Supply, etc) to be deployed, so if you fill these roles with people who aren’t eligible for combat roles, you free up someone else to become infantry.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:43:43am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

Israel also has a liberal abortion policy.

Incredibly so. Conservatives in this country’s positions on the issues resemble our adversaries positions on those issues far more than our allies in Israel, the UK, Canada, Germany, and other nations. You’d think they take that as a hint.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:44:26am

re: #310 Kragar

Hell, even if combat roles were still restricted to men, drafting women still makes perfect sense. Every infantryman requires several people in support roles (Comms, Transport, Supply, etc) to be deployed, so if you fill these roles with people who aren’t eligible for combat roles, you free up someone else to become infantry.

Exactly. It amazes me that Hunter who is a veteran doesn’t get this.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:44:52am
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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:45:32am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Well, he is a conservative, so its obvious he’s got some serious cognitive issues.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:45:57am

re: #314 Kragar

Well, he is a conservative, so its obvious he’s got some serious cognitive issues.

True that.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:46:12am

re: #310 Kragar

Hell, even if combat roles were still restricted to men, drafting women still makes perfect sense. Every infantryman requires several people in support roles (Comms, Transport, Supply, etc) to be deployed, so if you fill these roles with people who aren’t eligible for combat roles, you free up someone else to become infantry.

I think they have mommy issues. Combat is the one thing males probably can do consistently better than women. Most other role —men and women are match for each other.

It’s like they are throwing a fit because their candy was stolen.

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Belafon  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:49:20am

re: #316 Birth Control Works

I think they have mommy issues. Combat is the one thing males probably can do consistently better than women. Most other role —men and women are match for each other.

It’s like they are throwing a fit because their candy was stolen.

It’s traditionalism, and somewhat tied into the same argument about trans women in women’s restrooms. Women shouldn’t be in combat because combat is a dangerous, scary place and women might be raped or shot and killed. And all that blood and body parts could hurt their delicate sensibilities.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:49:35am

re: #316 Birth Control Works

“Combat is the one thing males probably can do consistently better than women.”

“How about you and I step outside and discuss this, comrade?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:49:47am

re: #252 Gretchen Tiger

Weird how that works, huh?

The antivaxxers always say these diseases were declining anyway because of “improved sanitation” (despite the fact that measles, for example, is airborne). Now of course that chart puts the lie to that—plus, I was around and I don’t remember the Hygiene Revolution™ of 1963.

(Different years for different diseases, too.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:51:19am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

They love Israel except when their policies are the total opposite of Israel’s and actually resemble what Hamas believes about women, gays, and people who aren’t their religion.

Their Israel is the Biblical Israel, not the real one. Just like their Ronald Reagan is the American Hero and not the historical Reagan.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:51:35am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Their Israel is the Biblical Israel, not the real one. Just like their Ronald Reagan is the American Hero and not the historical Reagan.

Yep.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:51:45am

And now, a surfing bird:

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:52:25am

re: #313 Birth Control Works

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Greed is a force of nature. Like wind, fire or water, it can be useful and beneficial when contained and channelized. When left to run on its own course, it can level whole cities.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:52:57am

re: #319 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

The antivaxxers always say these diseases were declining anyway because of “improved sanitation” (despite the fact that measles, for example, is airborne). Now of course that chart puts the lie to that—plus, I was around and I don’t remember the Hygiene Revolution™ of 1963.

(Different years for different diseases, too.)

IIRC, the widespread purchases of vacuum cleaners had a huge impact as well.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:53:06am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Their Israel is the Biblical Israel, not the real one. Just like their Ronald Reagan is the American Hero and not the historical Reagan.

All this bellyaching about how “unqualified” Trump is slays me. Trump is exactly as qualified as Reagan was. (0=0.)

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:53:07am

re: #318 Kragar

Don’t think anyone would need to step outside. She’d get you up to 1,000 yards away, regardless of where you were.

Oh, and I’d stack up Dr. Ruth against him too.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:53:47am

re: #255 Birth Control Works

Dogs have masters-Cats have staff.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:55:26am

re: #326 lawhawk

From her bio:

In Chicago, she stood before large crowds, chiding the men to support the second front. “Gentlemen,” she said, “I am 25 years old and I have killed 309 fascist occupants by now. Don’t you think, gentlemen, that you have been hiding behind my back for too long?”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:55:49am

re: #324 Birth Control Works

IIRC, the widespread purchases of vacuum cleaners had a huge impact as well.

True, but that was in the ’50s. Now look at polio:

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:56:11am

re: #325 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

All this bellyaching about how “unqualified” Trump is slays me. Trump is exactly as qualified as Reagan was. (0=0.)

No love for Reagan here, but he was Governor of California before he ran for President.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:58:02am
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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:58:18am

re: #325 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That’s actually not true.

Before Reagan became president, he was actually elected governor of California. It’s not like he came in with zero experience. He ran on the national stage in 1976, losing to Ford, before running in 1980 and winning against Carter.

The big difference between Reagan and the current cult of GOPers is that Reagan was at least optimistic about the future. The current GOP cult is pessimistic. They think things suck, that the light has gone out of the shining city on the hill, and our best days are behind us. Sure, Trump says he’ll make America great again, but doesn’t actually say how other than issuing platitudes.

These cultists think that our country is ruined, which is the furthest thing from the truth. Or reality. They however have conned their supporters into thinking that Obama ruined the nation, even though the country is doing much better by any objective measure than when he took office (by a wide margin in most of those measures). They claim they want to reverse all of Obama’s decisions, which would objectively reverse many of the gains over the past 8 years, while making a whole lot of those measures even worse (like health care coverage).

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:59:11am

re: #330 Timothy Watson

No love for Reagan here, but he was Governor of California before he ran for President.

So if Trump had followed through and run for Governor of New York and then ran for President from there that would have made him qualified? Did being Governor of Alaska make Palin qualified? Reagan, Trump, Palin—all equally unqualified. IMO.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:59:37am

re: #332 lawhawk

Reagan also knew how to sit down with Tip O’Neill and cut a Congressional deal. That is beyond GOP abilities in the most recent Congress.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:59:51am

re: #308 Birth Control Works

Israel also has a liberal abortion policy.

And they treat gays and guns differently too.

The Republican love them some Israel…except they don’t love them that much.

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 10:59:59am

re: #331 Kragar

GOP will take that stat as proof that they can cut birth control and reproductive health spending even further. Who needs PP when those rates are dropping like that.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:00:16am

Hillary says something completely reasonable and Baby Whiplash has a frothing meltdown.

Also the first reply to Hillary’s Tweet is Trump’s white supremacist BFF.

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The Vicious Babushka  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:01:49am

Where and when did Hillary say I THINK BABIES SHOULD BE MURDERED IN THE WOMB AND BEN SHAPIRO SHOULD PAY FOR IT!!!!

Is that in the seekrit Goldman Sachs transcript?

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:02:33am

re: #322 Birth Control Works

And now, a surfing bird:

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Peter: Well there seems to be an absence of a certain ornithological piece: a headline regarding mass awareness of a certain avian variety.

Brian: What are you talking about?

Peter: Oh have you not heard? It was my understanding that everyone had heard…

Brian: Heard what?

Stewie: Brian Don’t!

Bird is the Word! | FAMILY GUY | FOX BROADCASTING

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lawhawk  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:03:48am

re: #333 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Winning elections and learning/being able to govern are separate skills from whether the person is qualified to be president.

Palin and Reagan crossed the threshold by at least winning local and statewide elections. It shows at least some understanding of the political process, how to get things done, and in Reagan’s case, to do so in the most populous state in the nation.

Trump hasn’t even managed a win at an elected office anywhere. His statements show he failed Civics 101/Politics 101. He doesn’t understand how to govern or to legislate. Those are at least things Reagan understood. Reagan knew how to bargain and negotiate , which is the essence of politics.

Trump thinks he snaps his fingers and things are done. His followers approve of this nonsensical worldview. And it’s dangerous.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:05:16am

re: #340 lawhawk

Winning elections and learning/being able to govern are separate skills from whether the person is qualified to be president.

Palin and Reagan crossed the threshold by at least winning local and statewide elections. It shows at least some understanding of the political process, how to get things done, and in Reagan’s case, to do so in the most populous state in the nation.

Trump hasn’t even managed a win at an elected office anywhere. His statements show he failed Civics 101/Politics 101. He doesn’t understand how to govern or to legislate. Those are at least things Reagan understood. Reagan knew how to bargain and negotiate , which is the essence of politics.

Trump thinks he snaps his fingers and things are done. His followers approve of this nonsensical worldview. And it’s dangerous.

I agree Reagan and Trump are different kinds of idiots, but both idiots nonetheless.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:05:40am

re: #340 lawhawk

Winning elections and learning/being able to govern are separate skills from whether the person is qualified to be president.

And the ability to win a GOP primary requires an entirely different skills set than the one required to win a general election.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:07:11am

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary says something completely reasonable and Baby Whiplash has a frothing meltdown.

Also the first reply to Hillary’s Tweet is Trump’s white supremacist BFF.

[Embedded content]

I wonder if he retweets that shit at Bibi who is pro-choice as well. Really how the hell does being pro choice intimidate rape victims? It gives them a fucking choice. I won’t judge a woman who chooses one way or the other in that situation. Take a fucking hint Benny of the Corn.

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b.d.  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:08:05am

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

Hillary says something completely reasonable and Baby Whiplash has a frothing meltdown.

Also the first reply to Hillary’s Tweet is Trump’s white supremacist BFF.

[Embedded content]

Shouldn’t Ben be looking for a job rather than dicking around on Twitter?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:08:33am

re: #333 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

So if Trump had followed through and run for Governor of New York and then ran for President from there that would have made him qualified? Did being Governor of Alaska make Palin qualified? Reagan, Trump, Palin—all equally unqualified. IMO.

I understand what you’re saying and lord knows I despise Reagan but I can’t say he and Trump are one and the same. Now what I will say about Reagan is that like Trump he took advantage of the bigotry that exists in the GOP and used that to elevate his status.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:08:35am

re: #343 HappyWarrior

I wonder if he retweets that shit at Bibi who is pro-choice as well. Really how the hell does being pro choice intimidate rape victims? It gives them a fucking choice. I won’t judge a woman who chooses one way or the other in that situation. Take a fucking hint Benny of the Corn.

He just had to get the word “rape” in there. Doesn’t have to make any sense.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:09:28am

re: #346 allegro

He just had to get the word “rape” in there. Doesn’t have to make any sense.

True that.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:10:06am
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jaunte  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:10:36am

This cartoon is going to come in handy for months.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:11:17am

re: #345 HappyWarrior

I understand what you’re saying and lord knows I despise Reagan but I can’t say he and Trump are one and the same. Now what I will say about Reagan is that like Trump he took advantage of the bigotry that exists in the GOP and used that to elevate his status.

I believe that Reagan’s heart was in the right place in that I think he genuinely believed in what he was doing and that it was for the greater good. He wasn’t just throwing a narcissistic tantrum like Trump whose only interest is Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:11:38am

re: #348 Kragar

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Well if he’s laying staffers off, that would signal to me that his campaign thinks they don’t have much of a chance. Honestly, I think Bernie should have either kept the staffers or dropped out. I really don’t like campaigns sending mixed signals. But hey if people are still stupid enough to donate to Bernie thinking he can win, that’s not my money but it’s just sad to see.

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TedStriker  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:12:25am

re: #348 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Too late for that…

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:13:43am

re: #349 jaunte

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This cartoon is going to come in handy for months.

Waaaaaaaaah. Honestly for me, I can’t be proud to be white because for the longest time I was seen as not really being white since I’m Irish and Eastern European and that to the “real white people” wasn’t actually white. Black pride exists because of generations of telling African-Americans that they were somehow less than human. That didn’t happen with whites in this country.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:15:14am

It would never be on my list to be proud of being white. I had nothing to do with it.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:17:43am

Almost 300 lines of VBA code.

I am sure there’s a special place in Hell for me when I die.

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Franklin  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:17:47am

re: #349 jaunte

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This cartoon is going to come in handy for months.

I don’t get why one would be proud to be white. I’m proud to be a dad. I can see how a black person would be proud to be black because of how much adversity their people had to overcome. But I can’t see a reason to be proud of being white.

Maybe what they don’t get is that proud isn’t a binary classification of “proud” or “ashamed”. I’m not ashamed to be white, I just don’t have a sense of pride about it.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:18:03am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

Well if he’s laying staffers off, that would signal to me that his campaign thinks they don’t have much of a chance. Honestly, I think Bernie should have either kept the staffers or dropped out. I really don’t like campaigns sending mixed signals. But hey if people are still stupid enough to donate to Bernie thinking he can win, that’s not my money but it’s just sad to see.

Last night on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid said those staffers were more than a little disappointed (pissed) they got the news in a conference phone call from Jeff Weaver and not a word from their leader Bernie Sanders. It did not sound good. Maybe they have gotten a better feel for Bernie and that will come back through the supporters and they will have less issues backing Hillary.

Here is the vid…

Iframe

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:18:12am

re: #356 Franklin

I don’t get why one would be proud to be white. I’m proud to be a dad. I can see how a black person would be proud to be black because of how much adversity their people had to overcome. But I can’t see a reason to be proud of being white.

Maybe what they don’t get is that proud isn’t a binary classification of “proud” or “ashamed”. I’m not ashamed to be white, I just don’t have a sense of pride about it.

Exactly.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:18:27am

re: #354 allegro

When the only thing you have to be proud of is your pure blood lines, you’re going to have problems

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Testy Toad T  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:19:06am

re: #357 ObserverArt

Last night on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid said those staffers were more than a little disappointed (pissed) they got the news in a conference phone call from Jeff Weaver and not a word from their leader Bernie Sanders.]

I’d be pissed about getting a conference call from Jeff Weaver no matter what the content was.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:19:25am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Waaaaaaaaah. Honestly for me, I can’t be proud to be white because for the longest time I was seen as not really being white since I’m Irish and Eastern European and that to the “real white people” wasn’t actually white. Black pride exists because of generations of telling African-Americans that they were somehow less than human. That didn’t happen with whites in this country.

Remember the Fox bloviators on St. Patrick’s day going on about how “the Irish don’t complain about discrimination and they were discriminated against like the blacks were”?

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:19:41am

re: #357 ObserverArt

Last night on Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid said those staffers were more than a little disappointed (pissed) they got the news in a conference phone call from Jeff Weaver and not a word from their leader Bernie Sanders. It did not sound good. Maybe they have gotten a better feel for Bernie and that will come back through the supporters and they will have less issues backing Hillary.

Here is the vid…

[Embedded content]

Letting someone they’ve been let go by conference call sounds pretty crass to me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:20:19am

re: #354 allegro

It would never be on my list to be proud of being white. I had nothing to do with it.

Being proud of your race and people is fine as long as it does not carry an undertone of “we are better”.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:21:03am

re: #353 HappyWarrior

Waaaaaaaaah. Honestly for me, I can’t be proud to be white because for the longest time I was seen as not really being white since I’m Irish and Eastern European and that to the “real white people” wasn’t actually white. Black pride exists because of generations of telling African-Americans that they were somehow less than human. That didn’t happen with whites in this country.

Do Canadians still tell Québecois to “talk white!” They did when I was a kid….

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:21:05am

re: #359 Kragar

When the only thing you have to be proud of is your pure blood lines, you’re going to have problems

To me it just means those who profess such pride haven’t done squat with their lives or accomplished anything to actually be rightfully proud of. Sad!

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:22:30am
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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:22:38am

re: #314 Kragar

Well, he is a conservative, so its obvious he’s got some serious cognitive issues.

More like a RWNJ

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:23:52am

re: #362 HappyWarrior

Letting someone they’ve been let go by conference call sounds pretty crass to me.

I swear, between hearing this last evening, his wife’s bullshit today about more Blacks would have voted if Hillary wasn’t in the race and other crap the past few weeks, Bernie is going to be hated before he gets to the convention. Heck, he may be forced to not even show up.

The real Bern…they are feeling it.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:23:59am

re: #367 Stanley Sea

Potato potahto.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:23:59am

re: #365 allegro

To me it just means those who profess such pride haven’t done squat with their lives or accomplished anything to actually be rightfully proud of. Sad!

Except maybe recall a time when their ancestors made it all the way as far north as Gettysburg…

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:24:12am

re: #366 Kragar

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Perhaps he does know what he’s doing and that is lose the election. The asshat doesn’t want the job he’s running for.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:25:12am

re: #368 ObserverArt

I swear, between hearing this last evening, his wife’s bullshit today about more Blacks would have voted if Hillary wasn’t in the race and other crap the past few weeks, Bernie is going to be hated before he gets to the convention. Heck, he may be forced to not even show up.

The real Bern…they are feeling it.

Hate is a strong word but that is one way to burn a lot of good will.

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Skip Intro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:25:13am

Rep. Peter King: Cruz gives Lucifer a bad name

politico.com

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:26:01am

re: #373 Skip Intro

Rep. Peter King: Cruz gives Lucifer a bad name

politico.com

He’s got a point. Lucifer can talk basketball.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:27:41am

Saw a nice thing though from the mayor of Flint. Clinton is in her own way still working with the people there even after the Michigan primary.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:27:52am

I’m regressing. Going to make mac n cheese with tuna and hot sauce for lunch.

College staple.

Very excited.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:28:45am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

Hate is a strong word but that is one way to burn a lot of good will.

Maybe.

But when you build up a strong hope and then it is revealed you are not the great man they thought hate often times settles in. It is what happens when dealing with extremes and extremists. In my opinion anyway. Crushing hope is never good. And the higher up the expectation, the longer and harder the fall.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:29:13am

re: #371 allegro

Perhaps he does know what he’s doing and that is lose the election. The asshat doesn’t want the job he’s running for.

I used to be skeptical of that theory, but…Presidentin’ looks like work, whereas bitching and moaning about how he wuz robbed for the rest of his life could be very satisfying.

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Kragar  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:29:13am
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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:29:44am

You would think AAPL stock would skyrocket after someone like Carl Ichan sells his stake. It’s all bass ackwards today.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:30:03am

re: #377 ObserverArt

Maybe.

But when you build up a strong hope and then it is revealed you are not the great man they thought hate often times settles in. It is what happens when dealing with extremes and extremists. In my opinion anyway. Crushing hope is never good. And the higher up the expectation, the longer and harder the fall.

True. I definitely think he’s doing a lot to destroy the perceptions people had of him. I definitely have a different perception of him than I did last year or hell even this past winter.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:31:00am

re: #375 HappyWarrior

Saw a nice thing though from the mayor of Flint. Clinton is in her own way still working with the people there even after the Michigan primary.

Obama is heading that way too. Will they be there together?

Can you imagine the head explosions if they get together and that is where he gives his full endorsement and backing?

(I’m a dreamer…)

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:31:47am

Trying to find link, but CNN just said dude with possible explosive vest is at Baltimore TV station.

Must have seen that new movie promo.

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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:31:50am

re: #376 Stanley Sea

I’m regressing. Going to make mac n cheese with tuna and hot sauce for lunch.

College staple.

Very excited.

I’m jealous.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:32:44am

A panda suit??

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:33:41am

re: #385 Stanley Sea

A panda suit??

[Embedded content]

Sounds like it might be someone a little unhinged.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:34:14am
http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2016/02/23/street-art-afghanistan-premiere-grapheuse-burquas-feminisme_n_9298168.html
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allegro  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:34:54am

re: #382 ObserverArt

Obama is heading that way too. Will they be there together?

Can you imagine the head explosions if they get together and that is where he give his full endorsement and backing?

(I’m a dreamer…)

That would be entirely appropriate. Flint is the poster child of GOP policies at work. Pound it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:35:09am

Obama is weak on terrorism because he won’t say “pandaic extremism”.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:36:11am

re: #386 ObserverArt

Sounds like it might be someone a little unhinged.

I think the whole claiming to have a bomb signified that.
The panda suit? That’s just an exclamation point.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:36:39am

re: #356 Franklin

I don’t get why one would be proud to be white. I’m proud to be a dad. I can see how a black person would be proud to be black because of how much adversity their people had to overcome. But I can’t see a reason to be proud of being white.

Maybe what they don’t get is that proud isn’t a binary classification of “proud” or “ashamed”. I’m not ashamed to be white, I just don’t have a sense of pride about it.

I think the pride comes from thinking that white people are the ancestors of the creators of Western Civilization.

There is a whole lot of generalizations in that.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:36:51am

re: #389 GlutenFreeJesus

Obama is weak on terrorism because he won’t say “pandaic extremism”.

Seriously, though…a black and white suit? In Baltimore? I’ve got a bad feeling about this….

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Lidane  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:38:03am

re: #322 Birth Control Works

And now, a surfing bird:

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Birth Control Works  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:38:17am

re: #331 Kragar

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yup —amazing what education can do.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:43:19am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Greed is a force of nature. Like wind, fire or water, it can be useful and beneficial when contained and channelized. When left to run on its own course, it can level whole cities.

One of my favourite quotes when discussing business is, “Nothing kills a business faster than greed.”

Ask Carly. She knows all about that.

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ObserverArt  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:44:19am

re: #391 Birth Control Works

I think the pride comes from thinking that white people are the ancestors of the creators of Western Civilization.

There is a whole lot of generalizations in that.

It is sad, but true. They way we teach/taught history in this country has a lot to do with that thinking.

What helped me understand was learning about art history and all the beautiful works by people from lands outside of North America and Europe.

Part of Art History also covered great Architecture and seeing Middle East, Far East, South American Native creations made me dig in deeper.

That lead to learning more about societies and then you learn that many of those societies were more developed and civilized than covered in our education.

It also lead me to study more about Native Americans and how some Natives lived extremely civilized in little ‘cities’ with housing more developed than what a Hollywood movie depicted.

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retired cynic  Apr 28, 2016 • 11:54:22am

re: #340 lawhawk

Winning elections and learning/being able to govern are separate skills from whether the person is qualified to be president.

Palin and Reagan crossed the threshold by at least winning local and statewide elections. It shows at least some understanding of the political process, how to get things done, and in Reagan’s case, to do so in the most populous state in the nation.

Trump hasn’t even managed a win at an elected office anywhere. His statements show he failed Civics 101/Politics 101. He doesn’t understand how to govern or to legislate. Those are at least things Reagan understood. Reagan knew how to bargain and negotiate , which is the essence of politics.

Trump thinks he snaps his fingers and things are done. His followers approve of this nonsensical worldview. And it’s dangerous.

This is the exact way Rauner is trying to govern Illinois. Snap fingers, it doesn’t happen. He folds his arms and won’t budge. Result=Disaster. And he’s not the dumpster fire that Trump is.

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:05pm

re: #385 Stanley Sea

A panda suit??

[Embedded content]

They don’t do the Smoochy show there do they?

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 28, 2016 • 12:06:32pm

re: #386 ObserverArt

Sounds like it might be someone a little unhinged.

Furry Fury

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Reality Based Steve  Apr 28, 2016 • 4:25:14pm

re: #288 ObserverArt

I have a question for any folks out there that work on either WordPress or MediaWiki php web sites that use MySQL databases. I did a .sql (compressed) database backup of a Wiki site that I have been building. My backup today created a smaller .sql file than a backup .sql file I did about 2 weeks ago when I first started building some pages.

Have you seen that occur before and do you have any reason why it does?

Maybe it is the way the file compresses when writing.

It caught me out. I thought the file would grow larger as I build the site pages, upload more photos and the like. The site seems fine. The newer entries are all there. I just want to make sure I have good database backups. I get paranoid about backups…and I will be having some other people help me add pages and want to back up the database often.

Who knows, maybe the host server hamsters were more efficient today and packed more into the file than the previous time.

I hope Charles and maybe Curious and some others can explain the hamster activity.

Thanks!

If I had to throw a guess out there, I’m going to bet that because you have more content, the system is able to do a more efficient dictionary on the compression. More duplicate content, more repeated words / letter combos the more efficient the pack can be.

This is presuming that you did the backup the same way both times. Any way to restore into a test environment?

Like you, I’m always leery when something doesn’t feel “right” about a backup.

Interested to find out what you find out.

RBS


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