Hundreds of Former NatSec and Foreign Policy Officials Sign Statement Calling Trump’s Actions ‘Profound National Security Concern’

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Well now, this seems kind of important: More than 300 former officials call Trump’s actions concerning Ukraine ‘profound national security concern’.

More than 300 former U.S. national security and foreign policy officials have signed a statement warning that President Trump’s actions regarding Ukraine are a “profound national security concern” and supporting an impeachment inquiry by Congress to determine “the facts.”

“To be clear, we do not wish to prejudge the totality of the facts or Congress’ deliberative process,” said the statement, released Friday. “At the same time, there is no escaping that what we already know is serious enough to merit impeachment proceedings.”

The Washington Post points out that the list consists of officials who served under both Republican and Democratic administrations, although it was organized by National Security Action, a group founded by former members of the Obama administration.

Of course, any connection whatsoever to President Obama is enough for all Republicans to immediately dismiss the statement out of hand, without reading it.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:31:14am
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:32:48am

Trump is someone who has zero morality or ethics. He has no moral compass and will do only whatever he thinks will empower or enrich him.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:35:11am

EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:36:12am

re: #3 b.d.

Everything is also escalating rather quickly….

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:38:58am

from previous:

this is what i think they were trying to get maguire to say yesterday
that trump’s actions were a threat to natsec and so the DNI should be concerned

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:41:41am
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:44:02am

LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS MISSLE ALERT.

Limbaugh just called Schiff “A flat out pathological liar.”

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:45:15am

re: #7 Ace Rothstein

This coming from a flat out drug addict.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:48:29am

Current mood….

Metallica: Here Comes Revenge (Official Music Video)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:49:45am
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:53:27am
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 11:55:51am
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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:00:44pm
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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:01:35pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says that if the House goes ahead and impeaches President Donald Trump, the Senate “has no choice” but to conduct a trial to determine whether the president is removed from office

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:02:35pm
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Charmingly Persistent  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:03:47pm

re: #4 lawhawk

Everything is also escalating rather quickly….

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Oh please, oh please, oh please…

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:04:03pm

re: #14 Dizzy

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

I think Mitch thinks he’s goading Democrats into making a mistake.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:04:59pm

re: #14 Dizzy

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

I’ll believe when I see it. Unless him & Pence have a deal cut it ain’t happening.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:05:21pm

re: #14 Dizzy

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

While McConnell has enabled Trump wherever possible, I don’t think he would be in any way sad if Trump were gone-as long as the GOP retains its power. He will work for his personal advantage, and if that means turning on Trump, he’ll do it in a heartbeat.

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:06:27pm

re: #17 Belafon

I think Mitch thinks he’s goading Democrats into making a mistake.

Mitch is an evil bastard but he’s not as mindbogglingly stupid as Jordan, Nunez and others. He’s cagy and malignant. But for him, I don’t think Trump would have gotten this far.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:07:58pm

re: #11 lawhawk

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says that if the House goes ahead and impeaches President Donald Trump, the Senate “has no choice” but to conduct a trial to determine whether the president is removed from office

dont let him fool you
he doesnt mean what you think he means

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:08:56pm

re: #19 calochortus

While McConnell has enabled Trump wherever possible, I don’t think he would be in any way sad if Trump were gone-as long as the GOP retains its power. He will work for his personal advantage, and if that means turning on Trump, he’ll do it in a heartbeat.

I’m not so sure. McConnell is now hard-linked to Trump and I think their fortunes are also linked. Trump goes down, McConnell goes down too.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:10:32pm
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:11:45pm

re: #13 Flying Squirrel Girl

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linda tripp

bra-vo!

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:11:56pm

re: #14 Dizzy

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

gmta

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:12:39pm

re: #20 Dizzy

Mitch is an evil bastard but he’s not as mindbogglingly stupid as Jorden, Nunez and others. He’s cagy and malignant. But for him, I don’t think Trump would have gotten this far.

No, but I think he recognizes that Pelosi has the upper hand at the moment, and that if he just outright stopped the impeachment it would incriminate him more (and considering how much he’s bothered by MoscowMitch, he worries about that). What he’s got to do is find a reason to not hold the trial, and that involves making it into a complete partisan witch hunt.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:13:08pm

re: #24 DangerMan

That’s exactly what I thought when I saw it!

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:13:26pm

re: #15 Charmingly Persistent

in my nonlawyerly mind, just because other people are/were taping everything back together doesnt mean trump isnt breaking the law first by tearing everything up

plus that’s gotta be some kind of HR violations there

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:13:55pm

“YOU’RE FIRED!”

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:14:17pm

re: #22 Dizzy

I’m not so sure. McConnell is now hard-linked to Trump and I think their fortunes are also linked. Trump goes down, McConnell goes down too.

Well, yes, McConnell is pretty much linked to Trump. But if Trump is going to go down I’m pretty sure McConnell will do everything he can to point out that he hardly knew the man and never supported him, that he was just doing the best he could for conservative principles. That could easily mean he’ll be happy to vote to convict if that is the politically expedient thing to do.

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:16:26pm

re: #26 Belafon

No, but I think he recognizes that Pelosi has the upper hand at the moment, and that if he just outright stopped the impeachment it would incriminate him more (and considering how much he’s bothered by MoscowMitch, he worries about that). What he’s got to do is find a reason to not hold the trial, and that involves making it into a complete partisan witch hunt.

Yes. It is all such a cluster-f*ck because there truly is no bottom to trumpland moral depravity. I’ve reached my lower limit in imagining the things they do, and they keep surpassing their evilness.

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:18:35pm

re: #30 calochortus

Well, yes, McConnell is pretty much linked to Trump. But if Trump is going to go down I’m pretty sure McConnell will do everything he can to point out that he hardly knew the man and never supported him, that he was just doing the best he could for conservative principles. That could easily mean he’ll be happy to vote to convict if that is the politically expedient thing to do.

That would be soooooooooo satisfying. McConnell loses either way.

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:18:39pm

even though I am not here as often as I would like to be, if someone feels the need to be connected to me:

Click to Reveal

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:21:02pm

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:22:14pm
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:22:20pm

re: #31 Dizzy

Yes. It is all such a cluster-f*ck because there truly is no bottom to trumpland moral depravity. I’ve reached my lower limit in imagining the things they do, and they keep surpassing their evilness.

sometimes, for sanity, it’s better to not game it out. just watch and wait.

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:22:39pm

re: #32 Dizzy

That would be soooooooooo satisfying. McConnell loses either way.

I will break out the champagne to celebrate when Moscow Mitch is gone.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:24:03pm

re: #14 Dizzy

Interesting. Mitch has got something else up his sleeve, I’m sure of it.

Fun fact, once articles of impeachment against a president have been delivered to the Senate, the Senate clerk notifies the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and he becomes the presiding officer of the Senate.

When the President of the United States or the Vice President of the United States, upon whom the powers and duties of the Office of President shall have devolved, shall be impeached, the Chief Justice of the United States shall preside; and in a case requiring the said Chief Justice to preside notice shall be given to him by the Presiding Officer of the Senate of the time and place fixed for the consideration of the articles of impeachment, as aforesaid, with a request to attend; and the said Chief Justice shall be administered the oath by the Presiding Officer of the Senate and shall preside over the Senate during the consideration of said articles and upon the trial of the person impeached therein

And once he’s sworn in, he’s just like a trial court judge:

The Presiding Officer shall have power to make and issue, by himself or by the Secretary of the Senate, all orders, mandates, writs, and precepts authorized by these rules or by the Senate, and to make and enforce such other regulations and orders in the premises as the Senate may authorize or provide.

McConnell knows he can’t change the rules. And he’s probably gotten all he can from Trump, so if it makes sense to dump him, why not?

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:24:11pm

re: #28 DangerMan

in my nonlawyerly mind, just because other people are/were taping everything back together doesnt mean trump isnt breaking the law first by tearing everything up

plus that’s gotta be some kind of HR violations there

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Trump’s violating the PRA by tearing it up. These people are trying to adhere to the PRA, and it’s possible that other papers aren’t getting into the records because Trump managed to destroy them first.

Trump’s presidential “library” is going to be off the hook - it’s going to look the Iranian effort to reconstruct every document the US tried to shred before the Iranians overran the embassy. Except with a lot more sharpie markers to lead the way.

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Dizzy  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:24:51pm

re: #36 DangerMan

sometimes, for sanity, it’s better to not game it out. just watch and wait.

Good advice.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:25:49pm

Don’t pour yet, but it’s at least time to get the glasses out. Big ones.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:26:43pm

re: #26 Belafon

No, but I think he recognizes that Pelosi has the upper hand at the moment, and that if he just outright stopped the impeachment it would incriminate him more (and considering how much he’s bothered by MoscowMitch, he worries about that). What he’s got to do is find a reason to not hold the trial, and that involves making it into a complete partisan witch hunt.

IIRC, the Constitution specifies that the Senate “shall” try counts of impeachment returned by the House, so maybe even Moscow Mitch figures he can’t gin up a valid reason to sidetrack a trial. But I’m sure he would be pulling out all the stops he can to make sure the outcome is exactly what he wants.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:27:26pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Trump’s violating the PRA by tearing it up. These people are trying to adhere to the PRA, and it’s possible that other papers aren’t getting into the records because Trump managed to destroy them first.

Trump’s presidential “library” is going to be off the hook - it’s going to look the Iranian effort to reconstruct every document the US tried to shred before the Iranians overran the embassy. Except with a lot more sharpie markers to lead the way.

What are the odds that Trump even gets a library? I doubt he’s willing to spring for it. And if he collects donations to build one, you know he’ll skim off the top and keep delaying the project based on “stupid local regulations” or some such.

And if it does get built, it’ll probably be like the Nixon library was - independent at first, and requiring major remodeling before the National Archives will take control.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:28:09pm

Old and busted talking points: not a crime.
New and still busted talking points: this wasn’t intel gathering, but routine diplomacy.

Umm… it’s still criminal acts and a coverup. There’s still a quid pro quo involved to go after Trump’s political enemies by withholding military aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine plays ball.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:28:15pm

re: #36 DangerMan

sometimes, for sanity, it’s better to not game it out. just watch and wait.

BOOOOOOOOO!

Boo !

BOOOOO I SAY!

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:29:12pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Trump’s violating the PRA by tearing it up.

After he leaves office, could the costs of repairing the documents be recovered from his personal funds?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:29:27pm

re: #39 lawhawk

Trump’s violating the PRA by tearing it up. These people are trying to adhere to the PRA, and it’s possible that other papers aren’t getting into the records because Trump managed to destroy them first.

Trump’s presidential “library” is going to be off the hook - it’s going to look the Iranian effort to reconstruct every document the US tried to shred before the Iranians overran the embassy. Except with a lot more sharpie markers to lead the way.

THey’ve already bought the building for the Trump Presidential LIEbrary!

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:29:31pm

re: #33 piratedan

I never check FB, so I’m hoping that you regular FB people are friending the lizards who have provided their info.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:31:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:32:21pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Old and busted talking points: not a crime.
New and still busted talking points: this wasn’t intel gathering, but routine diplomacy.

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Umm… it’s still criminal acts and a coverup. There’s still a quid pro quo involved to go after Trump’s political enemies by withholding military aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine plays ball.

And they all start parroting the exact same phrase over and over, at the same time. Republicans are good at this.

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:32:54pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

I hear ya Stanley, just was just kind of cruising thru the threads and noted that this was a theme in the commentary post the losses of Sionann and Observer Art. Since my name is somewhat unique, felt it was easier for folks to find me than me finding them… :-) Still I think its a good idea, over at Balloon Juice, they do regional meetups when commenters travel to make real life connections and I think that’s great too, helps us all feel more connected and knowing that we’re not the only ones who share these feelings and the outrage as well as the hopes that we all share, as well as our passions about politics.

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syphonblue  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:33:32pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Yeah we all saw the talking points. You’d think they would’ve been slightly reticent to use them, or come up with some news ones, but…..Guess not?

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:35:12pm

re: #42 Jay C

IIRC, the Constitution specifies that the Senate “shall” try counts of impeachment returned by the House, so maybe even Moscow Mitch figures he can’t gin up a valid reason to sidetrack a trial. But I’m sure he would be pulling out all the stops he can to make sure the outcome is exactly what he wants.

just for fun, remember this?:

Section 6103(f)(1) of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) reads:

Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary [of the Treasury] shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.4

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calochortus  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:36:45pm

re: #53 DangerMan

just for fun, remember this?:

“Shall” just isn’t what it used to be. Language evolves.
//

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:37:31pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Old and busted talking points: not a crime.
New and still busted talking points: this wasn’t intel gathering, but routine diplomacy.

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Umm… it’s still criminal acts and a coverup. There’s still a quid pro quo involved to go after Trump’s political enemies by withholding military aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine plays ball.

it doesnt matter (to me) whther it was routine or not / intended or not.
what matters is whether whatever happened became a national security issue

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:38:09pm

Don’t let the Republicans weasel out of their complicity. We need some RICO (Russian Influenced Corrupt Organizations) prosecutions, maybe even a special tribunal.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:38:38pm

re: #46 jaunte

After he leaves office, could the costs of repairing the documents be recovered from his personal funds?

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
…inhales….
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:39:19pm

re: #42 Jay C

IIRC, the Constitution specifies that the Senate “shall” try counts of impeachment returned by the House, so maybe even Moscow Mitch figures he can’t gin up a valid reason to sidetrack a trial. But I’m sure he would be pulling out all the stops he can to make sure the outcome is exactly what he wants.

The exact language is that “the Senate shall have the sole power to try impeachments.” But that doesn’t mean they have to try impeachments. A few have been dismissed as moot due to resignations. Most judicial impeachments actually get referred to a committee for trial and then referred to the full Senate for a vote.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:39:47pm
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:40:40pm

re: #52 syphonblue

Yeah we all saw the talking points. You’d think they would’ve been slightly reticent to use them, or come up with some news ones, but…..Guess not?

that’s why i said try to game it out and half the time we’d be wrong

like the trope that comes up almost daily - you couldnt write this as fiction….

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:41:38pm
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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:43:01pm

Seen on Facebook. Behind the hide thing, because you just can’t unsee it, I tried…

Click to Reveal
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:44:38pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

And they all start parroting the exact same phrase over and over, at the same time. Republicans are good at this.

nancy got us started this morning:

the president of the United States used taxpayer dollars to shake down the leader of another country for his own political gain

the whole phrase or the 12 words

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:45:05pm

re: #61 Dread Pirate

well, its not as if the GOP could disown Trump, a good many of them are owned by Putin as well, seems like the real question is how many of them…..

If we return to the McCarthy, Ryan conversations about Dana R. and who owned him, you kind of get a glimpse that its most likely more than one AND if the NRA was acting as a laundromat for Russian money, then just about every GOP candidate would have been tainted to some degree… true?

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:46:33pm

RIP, Ambassador Wilson

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:48:15pm

re: #64 piratedan

well, its not as if the GOP could disown Trump, a good many of them are owned by Putin as well, seems like the real question is how many of them…..

If we return to the McCarthy, Ryan conversations about Dana R. and who owned him, you kind of get a glimpse that its most likely more than one AND if the NRA was acting as a laundromat for Russian money, then just about every GOP candidate would have been tainted to some degree… true?

Here’s what I don’t get about this. Why does the GOP need Russian money in the first place? They have more money than God from the domestic traitors in their donor class, all of whose bribery and corruption is legal.

Is it really as simple/stupid as Republicans having become so self-deluded that they literally think anything they do to retain power is necessarily legal because magic R?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:50:05pm

re: #7 Ace Rothstein

LACK OF SELF-AWARENESS MISSLE ALERT.

Limbaugh just called Schiff “A flat out pathological liar.”

So what if Schiff is a liar? The focus is on the Whistleblower complaint and the notes of Trump’s call to Zelensky. Those are not lies.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:52:07pm

re: #67 Patricia Kayden

So what if Schiff is a liar. The focus is on the Whistleblower complaint and the notes of Trump’s call to Zelensky. Those are not lies.

exactly
eye on the ball

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:52:39pm

re: #59 Charles Johnson

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And this is why House Democrats need to saturate the media with publicly televised hearings. Our side needs to keep people’s focus on Trump’s misconduct. This is the beauty of the impeachment process. It puts Trump and his supporters on their heels.

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Citizen K  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:53:51pm

In different, self-demonstrating news…

I never knew apologies were somehow legally binding. It’s like…way to demonstrate why #MeToo exists in the first place? Fuck all.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:54:50pm
The FBI released 748 pages of files pertaining to Roy Cohn this afternoon.

Before he died, Cohn was the Trump family’s infamous personal lawyer and fixer.

if he knew how to read, trump could have his own roy cohn now

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:55:02pm
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:56:33pm

re: #69 Patricia Kayden

And this is why House Democrats need to saturate the media with publicly televised hearings. Our side needs to keep people’s focus on Trump’s misconduct. This is the beauty of the impeachment process. It puts Trump and his supporters on their heels.

worse

(nyt)

{Trump] heads into what appears to be a rapidly unfurling impeachment inquiry unprepared temperamentally, and with a depleted staff, many of whom are shrugging off the seriousness of what the president faces.

that’s three strikes in one sentence

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:58:15pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

Here’s what I don’t get about this. Why does the GOP need Russian money in the first place? They have more money than God from the domestic traitors in their donor class, all of whose bribery and corruption is legal.

Is it really as simple/stupid as Republicans having become so self-deluded that they literally think anything they do to retain power is necessarily legal because magic R?

Because they know that they are facing a generational shift that is going to mean they’re going to lose power without help?

Seriously, think of this, the Republican presidential nominee has only once won a majority of the popular vote since GHW Bush’s win in 1988 (in 2004 GW Bush won 50.7% of the vote).

In ten elections since 2000, Republicans have only won the national popular vote in Senate elections three times, and only once (2014) with a majority.

In the House, over the same period of time, they’ve won the national popular vote 6 times, but only three times with a majority, and never more than 51.7%.

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syphonblue  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:59:53pm

re: #70 Citizen K

Hey just remember: Next time you break the law, apologize immediately. You’ll be fine!

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 12:59:58pm

take with a pound of salt because unabashed speculation:

I heard speculation yesterday it really was a group who put this together and one member of the group said he/she would fall on their sword.

With the multiple people who are not mentioned by name….

(I read this. the “I” above is not me)

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:01:59pm

re: #75 syphonblue

Hey just remember: Next time you break the law, apologize immediately. You’ll be fine!

Only valid in France

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syphonblue  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:02:44pm

re: #77 KGxvi

Only valid in France

Wanna take that bet?

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:07:52pm

Mike Pompeo has just been subpoenaed by 3 house committees. - CNN

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:07:55pm

re: #43 KGxvi

Any potential Trump Library will have poker tables and a huge gift shop taking up 90% of the square footage. The remaining 10% will hold all the surviving documents this administration couldn’t seem to manage to shove down the shredder or redact to one word sentences.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:10:28pm

re: #79 Dread Pirate

50 bucks says he never shows up.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:10:34pm

re: #79 Dread Pirate

Mike Pompeo has just been subpoenaed by 3 house committees. - CNN

That’s what I’m talkin’ about!

Inundate these fuckers.

Make. Them. Sweat.

How effective do you think Fatboy’s campaign is going to be with all this crap hanging over his head? He’s gonna be scared to leave the White House.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:10:57pm

- so all those R’s who have or havent read the wb complaint
- or who are “waiting on facts” that ultimately won’t matter to them
- or impeachment is unnecessary and unhelpful, and is distracting me from “doing the people’s business”

here’s a summary of the people’s business:

this is the D’s second message. we have ideas and we will govern.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:11:53pm

Friday night news dump is getting an early start.

But those subpoenas need teeth - failure to appear should invoke the inherent contempt powers of the Congress to enforce their actions.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:12:38pm

re: #58 KGxvi

The exact language is that “the Senate shall have the sole power to try impeachments.” But that doesn’t mean they have to try impeachments. A few have been dismissed as moot due to resignations. Most judicial impeachments actually get referred to a committee for trial and then referred to the full Senate for a vote.

Works for me, wrt to Trump (satisfying as a perp-walk in an orange jumpsuit would be…)

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:14:05pm

re: #81 Ace Rothstein

This is a much better response:

re: #82 makeitstop

That’s what I’m talkin’ about!

Inundate these fuckers.

Make. Them. Sweat.

How effective do you think Fatboy’s campaign is going to be with all this crap hanging over his head? He’s gonna be scared to leave the White House.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:14:14pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Old and busted talking points: not a crime.
New and still busted talking points: this wasn’t intel gathering, but routine diplomacy.

[Embedded content]

Umm… it’s still criminal acts and a coverup. There’s still a quid pro quo involved to go after Trump’s political enemies by withholding military aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine plays ball.

They have to call it routine diplomacy in order to invalidate the IC IG finding of a credible urgent concern and justify Maguire’s assessment that it didn’t fall under the umbrella of his responsibilities. The two main problems with this strategy are the fact that preventing foreign election interference is explicitly one of the DNIs duties and the deliberate attempt to hide the call memo in the classified intelligence server.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:16:04pm

This is insane.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:16:53pm

re: #80 Florida Panhandler

Any potential Trump Library will have poker tables and a huge gift shop taking up 90% of the square footage. The remaining 10% will hold all the surviving documents this administration couldn’t seem to manage to shove down the shredder or redact to one word sentences.

I doubt there’s a state that would give them a gambling license, but otherwise, probably right on with the rest of this.

I think I’ve mentioned it before, but the original design of the Nixon library had the exhibit on Watergate set up so that you would want to move through it quickly. It was psychologically designed to make you not want to spend time there - a darkened hallway with lights that shown on the floor in arrows; and the exhibit itself was printed white on black, hard to read, and shifted your point of focus regularly. I suspect Trump’s (again, if he has one) will basically be a hall of mirrors.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:18:02pm

re: #88 makeitstop

Just call your bank and tell them it’s an unauthorized debit. That’ll be easier.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:19:18pm

re: #87 goddamnedfrank

They have to call it routine diplomacy in order to invalidate the IC IG finding of a credible urgent concern and justify Maguire’s assessment that it didn’t fall under the umbrella of his responsibilities. The two main problems with this strategy are the fact that preventing foreign election interference is explicitly one of the DNIs duties and the deliberate attempt to hide the call memo in the classified intelligence server.

you just organized the thougths going round in my head since yesterday

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:20:04pm

re: #44 lawhawk

Old and busted talking points: not a crime.
New and still busted talking points: this wasn’t intel gathering, but routine diplomacy.

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Umm… it’s still criminal acts and a coverup. There’s still a quid pro quo involved to go after Trump’s political enemies by withholding military aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine plays ball.

Andy Barr is a ass-licking tool

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:21:11pm

re: #88 makeitstop

This is insane.

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a lot of online services make you talk to a person to cancel - you cant do it online
ie sirius radio
they dont want to make it too easy

of course they dont try to talk you out of it or make you do homework

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:21:42pm

Remember when Geraldo gave away secret U.S. positions in Iraq?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:22:00pm

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:22:51pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:23:00pm

Shame about Joe Wilson. A good reminder why Bush while not Trump shouldn’t be rehabilitated from being the previously worst president in some rime.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:24:01pm

re: #62 makeitstop

Seen on Facebook. Behind the hide thing, because you just can’t unsee it, I tried…

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Fat Gollum.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:24:25pm

re: #94 DodgerFan1988

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Remember when Geraldo gave away secret U.S. positions in Iraq?

Yeah you’re not an asskissing lackey who just sucks at Trump’s tit at all there Geraldo.

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sagehen  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:26:39pm

re: #43 KGxvi

What are the odds that Trump even gets a library? I doubt he’s willing to spring for it. And if he collects donations to build one, you know he’ll skim off the top and keep delaying the project based on “stupid local regulations” or some such.

And if it does get built, it’ll probably be like the Nixon library was - independent at first, and requiring major remodeling before the National Archives will take control.

It’ll be located in Trump Tower. The rent will be 3 or 4 times comparable midtown spaces.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:26:47pm

re: #94 DodgerFan1988

I’m confident the whistleblower could kick Geraldos ass.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:27:38pm

re: #94 DodgerFan1988

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Remember when Geraldo gave away secret U.S. positions in Iraq?

hey geraldo, he / they did it by the book (via politicalwire.com)

The Atlantic: …The whistle-blower went instead through the relatively straightforward and unexciting bureaucratic process of filing a complaint with the office of the intelligence community’s inspector general.”

“Filing the complaint ensured that classified information would be protected, national-security concerns would be evaluated, and ultimately, the information would reach the proper authorities. This candid and somewhat mundane process, while flawed, was surprisingly effective at holding Trump to account.”

“The key was its simplicity: By channeling the details of Trump’s misconduct into a formal complaint and then feeding it into the intelligence community’s system, the whistle-blower has thrown a wrench into Trump’s heretofore insurmountable deflect-by-chaos machine.”

thats why you’re all so mad. that trump’s been neutered. from within. without any fanfare. just quiet, dogged professionalism. (Mueller, with more clarity and 380 less pages)

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:27:49pm

re: #101 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m confident the whistleblower could kick Geraldos ass.

I’m confident most people could but beside the point, I’m confident most people aren’t this pathetic.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:28:08pm

re: #94 DodgerFan1988

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Remember when Geraldo gave away secret U.S. positions in Iraq?

I’m old enough to remember when he got punched in the face and then hit with a chair on his own trash TV show.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:29:25pm

re: #100 sagehen

It’ll be located in Trump Tower. The rent will be 3 or 4 times comparable midtown spaces.

and the admission price will be hefty

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:29:26pm

Remember when they accused us of worshipping Obama.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:32:10pm

re: #106 HappyWarrior

Remember when they accused us of worshipping Obama.

WATCH THE VIDEO OF THOSE KIDS IN THE CLASSROOM!! BLARGH!!

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:32:14pm

re: #80 Florida Panhandler

Any potential Trump Library will have poker tables and a huge gift shop taking up 90% of the square footage. The remaining 10% will hold all the surviving documents this administration couldn’t seem to manage to shove down the shredder or redact to one word sentences.

and it would have to be located in a wing off of the Russian embassy….

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:33:22pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:33:37pm

I remember back when a scandal was a real scandal and not just partisan attacks.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:33:50pm
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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:34:46pm

re: #102 DangerMan

(Mueller, with more clarity and 380 less pages)

i just saw this after i posted that comment

The Whistleblower Could Teach Mueller Some Things About Writing

Writing a good letter is really hard.

Writing a good letter whose purpose is to publicly charge the leader of the free world with democracy-destroying misconduct ― with brevity and clarity ― is a monumental task.

Yet the whistleblower behind the complaint that launched an impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump did just that. It’s well written. It’s clear. The sentences are easy to read. Its point ― that the president of the United States has undermined America’s democracy ― screams off the page.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:34:53pm
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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:35:13pm

re: #111 Belafon

[fire emoji] [fire emoji] [fire emoji]

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:36:02pm

Rudy crossed with Barr?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:36:47pm

re: #110 Dread Pirate

I remember back when a scandal was a real scandal and not just partisan attacks.

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What was worse, selfie stick gate, graysuit gate, or mustard and argula on burger gate?

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:36:51pm

re: #115 lawhawk

Rudy crossed with Barr?

Yep. Took me a minute, it’s so subtle.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:37:13pm

re: #115 lawhawk

Rudy crossed with Barr?

I see some Trump too.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:37:52pm

re: #112 DangerMan

i just saw this after i posted that comment

The Whistleblower Could Teach Mueller Some Things About Writing

In fairness to Mueller, he had a much wider investigation and topic. The difference between what the whistleblower did and what Mueller did is the difference between writing a personal injury complaint following a car accident and writing a post judgment opening brief following entry of summary judgment on 12 causes of action in a complex area of law.

Some things can’t be written to fit into four lines of a column in a newspaper.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:38:02pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

What was worse, selfie stick gate, graysuit gate, or mustard and argula on burger gate?

Black guy in the White House. It says it right in the name. /sarc not sarc

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:38:05pm

re: #117 makeitstop

Yep. Took me a minute, it’s so subtle.

It’s well done. Kinda scary. Not it inself but how that kind of photo mod tech could be used to distort reality.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:39:04pm

re: #120 lawhawk

Black guy in the White House. It says it right in the name. /sarc not sarc

I’m so angry thinking about how he was treated and from the same assholes who insist no one has been treated worse than Trump.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:39:44pm

re: #119 KGxvi

In fairness to Mueller, he had a much wider investigation and topic. The difference between what the whistleblower did and what Mueller did is the difference between writing a personal injury complaint following a car accident and writing a post judgment opening brief following entry of summary judgment on 12 causes of action in a complex area of law.

Some things can’t be written to fit into four lines of a column in a newspaper.

it’s time i hide behind ‘ianal’ ;-)

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:40:39pm

re: #11 lawhawk

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:41:57pm

re: #104 KGxvi

I’m old enough to remember when he got punched in the face and then hit with a chair on his own trash TV show.

By a neo-nazi more loss. Now he makes common cause with them.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:41:59pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

What was worse, selfie stick gate, graysuit gate, or mustard and argula on burger gate?

Malia smokes weed at Lollapalooza-gate.

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:44:55pm

re: #123 DangerMan

it’s time i hide behind ‘ianal’ ;-)

Fair enough. I’ll just leave it at this: I’ve written civil complaints that were five or six pages long and very straight forward, and I’ve written complaints that were 30-40 pages long that involved a lot of technical issues. I think the longest complaint I ever worked on was about 100 pages, not including exhibits, dealing with a mortgage fraud claim.

It all goes to the facts of the particular case and how the law applies to those facts.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:46:55pm

re: #126 Ace Rothstein

Malia smokes weed at Lollapalooza-gate.

Which you know is so much worse than the current first daughter owning a sweatshop.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:46:59pm

I’m not going to take Ace’s bet in
re: #81 Ace Rothstein

Pompeo is probably more likely to suddenly discover a prior engagement for State out of the country. WAY out.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:48:08pm

re: #127 KGxvi

Fair enough. I’ll just leave it at this: I’ve written civil complaints that were five or six pages long and very straight forward, and I’ve written complaints that were 30-40 pages long that involved a lot of technical issues. I think the longest complaint I ever worked on was about 100 pages, not including exhibits, dealing with a mortgage fraud claim.

It all goes to the facts of the particular case and how the law applies to those facts.

Legal memos are boring to the lay. I’m not surprised many people didn’t read the Mueller Report. It did its purpose but it wasn’t nor was it meant to be In Cold Blood.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:48:32pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:57:14pm

re: #74 KGxvi

Because they know that they are facing a generational shift that is going to mean they’re going to lose power without help?

Seriously, think of this, the Republican presidential nominee has only once won a majority of the popular vote since GHW Bush’s win in 1988 (in 2004 GW Bush won 50.7% of the vote).

In ten elections since 2000, Republicans have only won the national popular vote in Senate elections three times, and only once (2014) with a majority.

In the House, over the same period of time, they’ve won the national popular vote 6 times, but only three times with a majority, and never more than 51.7%.

I agree the GOP is facing these difficulties, but what does getting enmeshed in Russian corruption do for them besides create risk? The GOP has the most effective propaganda operation the world has ever seen at its command, and effectively infinite resources. There are lots of things it can still try.

Its basic strategic choice is to either reform into being a civilized enough center-right party to check its ongoing electoral decline (e.g., as suggested in that famously ignored GOP autopsy of one of its election losses), or to set itself up for fascist minority rule on a long enough time scale that both-siderism and boiling the frogs slowly has a decent chance of working.

For either of these plans, playing footsie with Putin et al. seems to bring nothing to the table.

Perhaps it’s just that these masters of the universe are blithering idiots.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:57:19pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 1:57:30pm

Update on the situation from earlier regarding my friends (very young) son: He’s been placed on life support but he has no chance of recovering. At this point it’s just a matter of determining when to make the final decision…

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:02:45pm

re: #132 EPR-radar

Perhaps it’s just that these masters of the universe are blithering idiots.

Well, that is definitely true.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:03:01pm

re: #133 lawhawk

reposted from above and for the cheap seats: house = democrats, senate = republicans:

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Sinistershade  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:03:39pm

re: #47 Joe Bacon 🌹

It’s even got an extra hyphen for him.

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CarolJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:06:29pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

Hugs to your friends.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:07:53pm

Comrade Rudy.

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makeitstop  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:08:20pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

Update on the situation from earlier regarding my friends (very young) son: He’s been placed on life support but he has no chance of recovering. At this point it’s just a matter of determining when to make the final decision…

That’s so sad. Wishing strength for the parents.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:10:37pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:11:05pm

re: #138 CarolJ

Hugs to your friends.

Thank you. He’s only five months old. Appears to be SIDS. :(

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:11:55pm

More than 300 former U.S. national security and foreign policy officials have signed a statement warning that President Trump’s actions regarding Ukraine are a “profound national security concern”

Deep State Soros Obama Traitors

/

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:12:10pm

Stormy Daniels accepted a $450,000 settlement for her lawsuit against the city of Columbus, Ohio, over her arrest last year at a strip club

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CarolJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:16:21pm

re: #144 DangerMan

Stormy Daniels accepted a $450,000 settlement for her lawsuit against the city of Columbus, Ohio, over her arrest last year at a strip club

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More than cheapskate Trump. This is another irony: thanks to his trying to cover up the affair, he’s made her richer. And probably richer at her day job too. I mean , who outside of porn knew who Stormy Daniels was before this?

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:16:45pm

re: #111 Belafon

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note: it’s a subpoena for dox, so him being out of the country or whatever wont matter

and this is a subtle change in how they wrote it up:

“Your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena shall constitute evidence of obstruction of the House’s impeachment inquiry.”

they learned

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:18:29pm

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

How tragic. I’m so sorry.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:23:28pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

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“All lives matter” shirt, white power hand signs. What a lovely group of scum.

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:23:55pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh no! I didn’t see your earlier post.
My condolences to everyone involved.
My best friend’s niece died at 2 years old. It was decades ago but I still think of it now and then. It is always just horrible, no matter the details or circumstances. I am so sorry.

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DangerMan  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:26:38pm

re: #139 DodgerFan1988

russia wasnt on the ukraine call. nothing to see here.
(that’s ‘the’ call, not ‘the’ ukraine)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:27:26pm

Male ingenuity at its finest: Went off without a hitch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:28:23pm

re: #83 DangerMan

- so all those R’s who have or havent read the wb complaint
- or who are “waiting on facts” that ultimately won’t matter to them
- or impeachment is unnecessary and unhelpful, and is distracting me from “doing the people’s business”

here’s a summary of the people’s business:

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this is the D’s second message. we have ideas and we will govern.

IIRC, the Senate unanimously passed the border wall rejection earlier this week.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:30:22pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

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If they were any more inbred, they’d be a Panera franchise.

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:31:49pm

re: #146 DangerMan

note: it’s a subpoena for dox, so him being out of the country or whatever wont matter

and this is a subtle change in how they wrote it up:

“Your failure or refusal to comply with the subpoena shall constitute evidence of obstruction of the House’s impeachment inquiry.”

they learned

They sure did. RTWT here. Three Committee Chairmen, pretty blunt language, and footnoted with plenty of online links (including, I noticed, Rudy’s “Shut Up, Moron” quote…..)

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KGxvi  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:35:45pm

re: #152 Backwoods_Sleuth

IIRC, the Senate unanimously passed the border wall rejection earlier this week.

I don’t think it was the border wall rejection that was unanimous - that would be a big deal because it would be a veto-proof majority and thus a means of overriding Trump’s bogus national emergency. Senate website says it was 55-41 on that vote.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:40:12pm

re: #141 goddamnedfrank

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She’s at best guilty of manslaughter. And I’m being generous.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:40:19pm

re: #155 KGxvi

I don’t think it was the border wall rejection that was unanimous - that would be a big deal because it would be a veto-proof majority and thus a means of overriding Trump’s bogus national emergency. Senate website says it was 55-41 on that vote.

It was a strong rebuff to Trump, who has made that one of his centerpieces of policy.

But they all know that he sees it merely for its symbolic value.

If he had been at all serious or competent, he would have appointed a planning commission to present design, engineering, legal and environmental studies as well as a proposed budget and timetable.

We have seen no sign of that at all.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:40:46pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:42:16pm

re: #88 makeitstop

Even if the Whistleblower is a political hack who hates Trump’s guts, that has zilch to do with the veracity of his claim. The claim stands on its own regardless of the person making it so the NYT had no reason to reveal his identity before he’s willing to come forth. Good to see a backlash on them outing him.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:43:09pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:43:52pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

Even if the Whistleblower is a political hack who hates Trump’s guts, that has zilch to do with the veracity of his claim. The claim stands on its own regardless of the person making it so the NYT had no reason to reveal his identity before he’s willing to come forth. Good to see a backlash on them outing him.

When you have no other arguments, you go ad hominem.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:44:35pm

re: #150 DangerMan

He’s no longer going. He claimed to CNN that he didn’t know that Putin would be in attendance. **rolls eyes**

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:45:11pm

Evening Lizardim.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:48:12pm

re: #111 Belafon

Giuliani also needs to be subpoenaed as well as Barr.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:49:11pm

re: #104 KGxvi

I’m old enough to remember when he got punched in the face and then hit with a chair on his own trash TV show.

And then openly mocked by Weird Al in the movie UHF.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:50:06pm

re: #51 piratedan

I hear ya Stanley, just was just kind of cruising thru the threads and noted that this was a theme in the commentary post the losses of Sionann and Observer Art. Since my name is somewhat unique, felt it was easier for folks to find me than me finding them… :-) Still I think its a good idea, over at Balloon Juice, they do regional meetups when commenters travel to make real life connections and I think that’s great too, helps us all feel more connected and knowing that we’re not the only ones who share these feelings and the outrage as well as the hopes that we all share, as well as our passions about politics.

I tried you on FB, and you weren’t offered up as an option under that name. Been trying to keep up!

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:51:43pm

re: #165 Florida Panhandler

And then openly mocked by Weird Al in the movie UHF.

UHF - Town Talk With George.wmv

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:52:58pm

re: #164 Patricia Kayden

Giuliani also needs to be subpoenaed as well as Barr.

Oh, he will be. I want to watch a staff lawyer strip the bark off him while he tries to bluff and evade.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:54:35pm

re: #167 teleskiguy

God, I love that movie.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 2:57:02pm

re: #165 Florida Panhandler

And then openly mocked by Weird Al in the movie UHF.

Weird Al is a national treasure.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:00:43pm

re: #168 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, he will be. I want to watch a staff lawyer strip the bark off him while he tries to bluff and evade.

I’ll have to call in sick for that hearing.

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:01:16pm

re: #166 retired cynic

that’s weird, perhaps I have something amiss in settings… If you give me a hidden reply, I guess I can try and reciprocate and try and find you :-)

this would also be applicable to anyone else who tried… tyvm!

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:03:27pm

re: #159 Patricia Kayden

Even if the Whistleblower is a political hack who hates Trump’s guts, that has zilch to do with the veracity of his claim. The claim stands on its own regardless of the person making it so the NYT had no reason to reveal his identity before he’s willing to come forth. Good to see a backlash on them outing him.

Sadly, to TrumpWorld (and specifically to its RW media enablers) that isn’t true at all: even the most-minimal “flaw” in the source of any claims made against Dear Leader is valid reason to discount said claim altogether. Or mostly, just the fact of any critical claim about Trump being instantly dismissable in the first place….

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:03:58pm

re: #88 makeitstop

This is insane.

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I went through hell just trying to cancel the NYT email news daily. Took weeks and many attempts and a number of “very helpful” (not) customer relations people.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:05:55pm

re: #90 KGxvi

Just call your bank and tell them it’s an unauthorized debit. That’ll be easier.

My bank would not do that. It had to be stopped from their end. (Believe me, I was trying anything!)

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garzooma  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:08:48pm

re: #175 retired cynic

My bank would not do that. It had to be stopped from their end. (Believe me, I was trying anything!)

Get another bank. That’s outrageous.

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retired cynic  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:09:51pm

re: #111 Belafon

OK, from that list of subpoenas and depositions, I need to get a tv service for c-span!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:10:27pm

re: #175 retired cynic

My bank would not do that. It had to be stopped from their end. (Believe me, I was trying anything!)

Well, it sucks but you can always go nuclear and cancel the card used to pay for the subscription.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:10:57pm

re: #155 KGxvi

I don’t think it was the border wall rejection that was unanimous - that would be a big deal because it would be a veto-proof majority and thus a means of overriding Trump’s bogus national emergency. Senate website says it was 55-41 on that vote.

my bad memory…it was the vote to release the whistle blower report that was unanimous.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:11:39pm

Other than the stupid pain after, the worst part of getting teeth pulled is the sound. Brrr

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:16:51pm

these asshats

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:17:33pm

re: #172 piratedan

that’s weird, perhaps I have something amiss in settings… If you give me a hidden reply, I guess I can try and reciprocate and try and find you :-)

this would also be applicable to anyone else who tried… tyvm!

There was an entry matching your description but it didn’t have the option to send a friend request.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:19:24pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

these asshats

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Uh no Ronna. They campaigned on holding his ass accountable. FFS you’re more pathetic than he is.

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:19:43pm

re: #182 Hecuba’s daughter

ok, well share yours behind the hidden veil and I will attempt to send one to you…

TY Facebook! :-) shakes my head, sheesh I got higher security access issues than Trump’s ready room!

Made some tweaks to my privacy settings, but I do tend to keep my profile locked down tight to try and avoid any…. issues.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:20:54pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is just the beginning of an all-out fight to defend our democracy & our president.

It’s a republic, not a democracy!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:22:50pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:22:53pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:23:42pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

Obviously not Skype or Zoom, if it was ‘perfect’.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:24:07pm

re: #187 teleskiguy

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He has the weirdest phrases. “Beautiful letters” anyone?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:24:34pm

A Sikh sheriff’s deputy was killed during a traffic stop today in a Houston suburb.
This is what the NRA interpretation of the 2nd Amendment leads to.

“HCSO deputy, Sandeep Dhaliwal, has died after being shot during a traffic stop Friday near Cypress, according to Sheriff Ed Gonzalez.”

“Authorities have detained a possible suspect, the sheriff tweeted about 2:30 p.m.”

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:25:55pm

re: #190 jaunte

A Sikh sheriff deputy was killed during a traffic stop today in a Houston suburb.
This is what the NRA interpretation of the 2nd Amendment leads to.

Guy probably thought the officer was one of them darn terrorists.

Stupid fucking rednecks.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:25:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:26:40pm

re: #191 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Guy probably thought the officer was one of them darn terrorists.

Stupid fucking rednecks.

Sharia cops!///

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Jay C  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:27:52pm

Well, in surprising news, our Moron-in-Chief has actually done something right (though probably inadvertently):

President Trump Signs Stopgap Budget

So at least we will have a seven-week wait to have to deal with THAT particular problem (again)…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:28:23pm

re: #189 HappyWarrior

He has the weirdest phrases. “Beautiful letters” anyone?

A big part of Alec Baldwin’s Trump impression is that he’s always looking for the better adjective and failing to find it, so he falls back on the half dozen or so that he can remember -

Beautiful, strong, perfect, horrible, nasty stupid.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:29:01pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:30:51pm

Please NRA, tie yourselves to Trump and let him take you down too.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:31:12pm

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:32:21pm

Sounds like a hate crime.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:34:42pm

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

A big part of Alec Baldwin’s Trump impression is that he’s always looking for the better adjective and failing to find it, so he falls back on the half dozen or so that he can remember -

Beautiful, strong, perfect, horrible, nasty stupid.

Incredible, tremendous, amazing, terrific

All non-specific superlatives like P.T. Barnum would use.

REPORTER: Mr. President, what can you tell us about the Republican healthcare plan to replace the ACA?

TRUMP: It’s incredible and tremendous!

REPORTER: Does it cover people with pre-existing conditions?

TRUMP: We will have the most beautiful pre-existing conditions you ever saw!

REPORTER: But what can you tell us specifically that makes this better than the ACA?

TRUMP: It’s terrific and it’s the most amazing healthcare that you ever saw! It’s incredibly tremendous!

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:35:24pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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glad I don’t live in Illinois……

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:35:29pm

Lre: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

A big part of Alec Baldwin’s Trump impression is that he’s always looking for the better adjective and failing to find it, so he falls back on the half dozen or so that he can remember -

Beautiful, strong, perfect, horrible, nasty stupid.

Yep see above. The “perfect” conversation with LaPietre.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:36:44pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

And what the fuck is up with “Fun Size”? You know what’s FUN?!? A FULL SIZE fucking Snickers bar!!!

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:36:46pm

re: #201 b.d.

glad I don’t live in Illinois……

or Kentucky. I guess Swedish Fish go good with Oxycontin

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:36:48pm

re: #200 The Pie Overlord!

REPORTER: But what can you tell us specifically that makes this better than the ACA?

TRUMP: This Way To The Egress!

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:38:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:39:31pm

re: #206 The Pie Overlord!

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Your father compares people to dogs as insults. Stop pretending to be a decent person when you’re just your father if he were a woman, younger, & even more delusional.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:39:54pm

re: #204 b.d.

or Kentucky. I guess Swedish Fish go good with Oxycontin

Swedish fish are good. Take that back!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:40:39pm

re: #191 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I live about 20 miles from Cypress. People over there think Arabs and Persians are the same thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:41:14pm

re: #209 Ace Rothstein

I live about 2o miles from Cypress. People over there think Arabs and Persians are the same thing.

they’re all mexicans…

////////////////////////

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:42:15pm

re: #209 Ace Rothstein

I live about 2o miles from Cypress. People over there think Arabs and Persians are the same thing.

I’m sure. And I’m also sure if these same people who profess to love Israel ever met any Israelis would be confused too.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:42:42pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

they’re all mexicans…

////////////////////////

Oh they’re the Mexicans who don’t eat pork.//

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:42:46pm

re: #209 Ace Rothstein

I live about 20 miles from Cypress. People over there think Arabs and Persians are the same thing.

lol don’t mention that in Tehrangeles.

On another note, there’s really no such as a “Persian” anyways, but that’s for another topic.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:03pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

Swedish fish are good. Take that back!

I can not in good conscious take that back, I promise to find the very best deprogrammer for you!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:04pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Oh they’re the Mexicans who don’t eat pork.//

That’s what they WANT you to think…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:17pm

re: #209 Ace Rothstein

I know an architect in town named Mohammed, who goes by Mo. He stuck an e on the end so the locals wouldn’t get too confused.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:37pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

If you were living in Japan, the number of different flavors of KitKat would blow your mind.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:47pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

Oh they’re the Mexicans who don’t eat pork.//

lol, I’ll take None of Them for $1000 Alex

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jeffreyw  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:43:53pm

re: #198 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I call bullshit on Jolly Rancher in Illinois. Or anywhere.

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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:44:29pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

And what the fuck is up with “Fun Size”? You know what’s FUN?!? A FULL SIZE fucking Snickers bar!!!

Entirely concur about KitKat. But - just for Halloween - I don’t mind getting a handful of fun size assorted chocolate candy bars in lieu of a full-sized bar.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:44:29pm

re: #216 jaunte

I know an architect in town named Mohammed, who goes by Mo. He stuck an e on the end so the locals wouldn’t get too confused.

But didn’t they wonder where Larry and Curley were?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:44:57pm
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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:45:24pm

re: #195 Blind Frog Belly White

A big part of Alec Baldwin’s Trump impression is that he’s always looking for the better adjective and failing to find it, so he falls back on the half dozen or so that he can remember -

Beautiful, strong, perfect, horrible, nasty stupid.

You forgot “bigly.”

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:45:42pm

re: #219 jeffreyw

I call bullshit on Jolly Rancher in Illinois. Or anywhere.

If you are a dentist, Jolly Rancher is a godsend….

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:46:21pm

re: #216 jaunte

I know an architect in town named Mohammed, who goes by Mo. He stuck an e on the end so the locals wouldn’t get too confused.

I would have gone as Momo personally.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:47:01pm

re: #219 jeffreyw

I call bullshit on Jolly Rancher in Illinois. Or anywhere.

If everybody gives out Jolly Ranchers in Illinois is somewhat explains most of those Chicago weekend shootings.

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:47:52pm

re: #204 b.d.

or Kentucky. I guess Swedish Fish go good with Oxycontin

Hey, I’m in TN and I like Swedish Fish…and Milk Duds…and Snickers…and Jolly Ranchers…and….

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:48:06pm

Hi. My wife left me.

(She actually went to town for groceries and came back while I was asleep. I have significant abandonment issues from my last marriage, so my wife will always leave a note if she goes someplace while I’m asleep.)

Regarding the right-wing Dumpster fire which is the New York Times op-ed page.

Op-eds which appear in that paper don’t just appear in their circulation area and on-line subscribers.

Every time the so-called liberal NYT writes today’s GOP talking points in their op-ed pages, places like mine pick up that op-ed and run it in our local papers. (“See, even the liberal NYT agrees with us.”)

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:48:41pm
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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:49:20pm

re: #217 Eric The Fruit Bat

If you were living in Japan, the number of different flavors of KitKat would blow your mind.

The strawberry ones, I can see, but wasabi?

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:49:22pm

I love Jolly Ranchers. Try to keep a few around all the time.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:50:30pm

re: #229 jaunte

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Rudy’s texting buddy Volker quit?

Witness relocation program, stat!

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:50:43pm

re: #230 TedStriker

I wish to eat a strawberry KitKat.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:50:44pm

re: #231 plansbandc

I love Jolly Ranchers. Try to keep a few around all the time.

Jolly Ranchers are good, but when they get sticky they’re annoying. Fruit candies >>> chocolate for me, though. All-time favorite - Dots.

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electrotek  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:51:29pm

re: #217 Eric The Fruit Bat

If you were living in Japan, the number of different flavors of KitKat would blow your mind.

Oh man, my suitcases were full of Kit Kat’s when I arrived back from Japan last year lol

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:51:32pm

re: #232 b.d.

Executive Director of the McCain Institute Kurt Volker resigned from his position as the U.S. Special Envoy for Ukraine Friday, following reports he collaborated with Ukraine and President Donald Trump.

An ASU official confirmed Volker’s resignation Friday, and said the University could not speak about his future at ASU because the University does not comment on personnel matters.

Volker met with U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Friday to announce he would be resigning, the official said.
statepress.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:52:41pm

All about Reese’s here. But really anything with peanut butter and a cold glass of milk is great.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:53:04pm

re: #234 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

It’s a shame when they get sticky. I’ve always been a big fan of fruit candy also. Will have a chocolate fling once in awhile, but fruit candy is my fave.

One of my all time fave candies were Judson sour cherry balls. I about cried when they went out of business.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:54:10pm

re: #238 plansbandc

It’s a shame when they get sticky. I’ve always been a big fan of fruit candy also. Will have a chocolate fling once in awhile, but fruit candy is my fave.

One of my all time fave candies were Judson sour cherry balls. I about cried when they went out of business.

If you get a chance, check out the Albanese brand of gummies. Company’s owned by a friend of my sister’s (well, the friend’s family, anyway) based back in Indiana. I prefer them to the Haribo gummies you see in most gas stations.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:54:50pm

Jelly Beans are the one thing I will give Reagan credit for.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:55:46pm

re: #30 calochortus

Well, yes, McConnell is pretty much linked to Trump. But if Trump is going to go down I’m pretty sure McConnell will do everything he can to point out that he hardly knew the man and never supported him, that he was just doing the best he could for conservative principles. That could easily mean he’ll be happy to vote to convict if that is the politically expedient thing to do.

McConnell has more to worry about with Amy McGrath than he does with Donald Trump.

If he goes in on an honest impeachment enquiry, he can argue in his reëlection campaign that he was doing the job Kentuckians elected him to do.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:56:47pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:57:18pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Jelly Beans are the one thing I will give Reagan credit for.

Those and Chesterfields

What else do you need?
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A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:57:24pm

re: #233 plansbandc

I wish to eat a strawberry KitKat.

Available on Amazon.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 3:59:34pm

re: #240 HappyWarrior

Oh yessss. Cherry and Lemon Lime Jelly Belly.

Fun fact about the guy who created Jelly Belly. He’s putting out a whole line of CBD infused gourmet jellybeans. Plans to make them fully cannabis infused once pot is legalized across the US.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:00:09pm

re: #243 b.d.

Look at that tagline. Maybe Trump got his adjectives from looking at 1950s ads.

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:01:06pm

re: #217 Eric The Fruit Bat

If you were living in Japan, the number of different flavors of KitKat would blow your mind.

re: #235 electrotek

Oh man, my suitcases were full of Kit Kat’s when I arrived back from Japan last year lol

Many of the Japanese flavors are available at Amazon.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:01:20pm

re: #242 jaunte

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Wow.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:02:14pm

re: #248 Stanley Sea

Putin’s fingers are all over it.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:02:35pm

jeeez, I missed this gem. POTUS for hire.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:05:19pm
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CarolJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:05:45pm

What’s this “unpaid volunteer” crapola? It’s one thing to volunteer at the food bank for 4 hours, another to go overseas for an indefinite amount of time and incur the expenses thereby. Maybe some other “volunteer” is paying him under the table? Same thing with Rudy-how “unpaid” is this stuff, and his time has no monetary value? Again, where is his money coming from? He’s not going to ever work in the Administration, isn’t taking new clients. And Trump promises is worth the paper towels they are written on.

This may be another scandal on top of the other scandals of the Trump Administration.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:06:01pm

re: #250 b.d.

jeeez, I missed this gem. POTUS for hire.

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A literal quid pro quo.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:06:52pm
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:07:06pm

re: #250 b.d.

And…. hours earlier the US Senate reported that the NRA was a front organization for Russia (Russia was using the NRA to spread money to political candidates and further their own agenda). Mind you, this is money that almost exclusively went to GOPers.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:07:29pm

re: #253 goddamnedfrank

A literal quid pro quo.

Commit an impeachable offense to fund your impeachment lawyers.

perfect, just perfect.

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:07:59pm

re: #243 b.d.

Those and Chesterfields

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Every time I see that ad, I can’t help but “WTF” at it; I know that, even at his peak as an actor, Reagan wasn’t exactly an A-lister, so I understand the urge to make money outside his studio contract. However, maybe it’s my modern sensibilities, but that ad campaign just seems so gauche, at best.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:09:31pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Naw…. it’s more like there’s another iceberg and as Trump backs up from the first one, he rams directly into the next one.

Think Sideshow Bob and rakes… this is where we are with Trump. Everything Trump is doing will backfire on him at this point.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:09:50pm

re: #256 b.d.

*chef kiss*

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:10:34pm

re: #257 TedStriker

Every time I see that ad, I can’t help but “WTF” at it; I know that, even at his peak as an actor, Reagan wasn’t exactly an A-lister, so I understand the urge to make money outside his studio contract. However, maybe it’s my modern sensibilities, but that ad campaign just seems so gauche, at best.

I know it i only an ad but what would a Reagan signed carton of Christmas Chesterfields be worth? I kinda want one!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:10:39pm

re: #256 b.d.

Commit an impeachable offense to fund your impeachment lawyers.

perfect, just perfect.

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:11:34pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

these asshats

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austin_blue  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:13:06pm

re: #142 Eclectic Cyborg

Thank you. He’s only five months old. Appears to be SIDS. :(

How horrible for the family. I can’t imagine their pain. Perhaps their tragic loss can be another family’s miracle.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:13:51pm

re: #250 b.d.

jeeez, I missed this gem. POTUS for hire.

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Are they doing this to say “Hey, this is a quid pro quo! Trump didn’t do that!”?

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:14:05pm

Those poor stooges.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:14:32pm

re: #245 plansbandc

Oh yessss. Cherry and Lemon Lime Jelly Belly.

Fun fact about the guy who created Jelly Belly. He’s putting out a whole line of CBD infused gourmet jellybeans. Plans to make them fully cannabis infused once pot is legalized across the US.

Awesome!

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:15:35pm

re: #245 plansbandc

Oh yessss. Cherry and Lemon Lime Jelly Belly.

Fun fact about the guy who created Jelly Belly. He’s putting out a whole line of CBD infused gourmet jellybeans. Plans to make them fully cannabis infused once pot is legalized across the US.

Fantastic news, they do a good job.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:15:53pm

Seems to be a lot of news coming out lately.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:16:18pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:16:58pm

re: #265 Stanley Sea

Those poor stooges.

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Trump addressing a Hispanic Heritage Month crowd?

Dear Lord, the audience should be very amused or very stupid.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:17:41pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:18:00pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:18:20pm

Is there any way Hannity is mixed up in this Ukraine mess? Please?

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mmmirele  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:18:55pm

re: #230 TedStriker

The strawberry ones, I can see, but wasabi?

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It’s fake wasabi. The real stuff costs about $275/kilo the last time I checked.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:19:43pm

KitKat is a reasonable chocolate confection.
But, it is a poor Halloween treat. Delivered in the seasonal ‘Fun Size’ packaging it lacks the size/mass for sufficient savoring.
It is a tease.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:21:01pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:22:46pm

Fool me once …

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:23:39pm

re: #275 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

KitKat is a reasonable chocolate confection.
But, it is a poor Halloween treat. Delivered in the seasonal ‘Fun Size’ packaging it lacks the size/mass for sufficient savoring.
It is a tease.

Nestle’s new luxury KitKat will cost $17

cnn.com

Swiss chocolate giant Nestlé (NSRGF) has announced a luxury, handcrafted version of the popular chocolate bar for the United Kingdom, in time for the Christmas season.

The opulent eight-finger bar allows customers to choose from 1,500 flavor combinations, and also features personalized packaging.

The new “KitKat Chocolatory” creation isn’t exactly a cheap thrill, though — each bar will set you back £14 ($17).

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:25:22pm

re: #278 b.d.

I’d take these over kitkats any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

amazon.com

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:25:22pm

re: #278 b.d.

The opulent eight-finger bar allows customers to choose from 1,500 flavor combinations

Fava beans?

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:25:58pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:26:28pm

re: #268 jaunte

Can it be that Trump really has been stupid enough to discuss things like blessing the Kashoggi murder and giving Ukraine to Russia on official phone calls?

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:26:37pm

re: #279 lawhawk

I’d take these over kitkats any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

amazon.com

Oh yeah! In my veins!
Those are the best.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:28:46pm

A colleague’s father was able to get some of those for our office, and dayum…. they are good.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:29:04pm

re: #279 lawhawk

I’d take these over kitkats any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

amazon.com

I’m drooling now. Thanks, jerk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:29:17pm

oh…

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:29:22pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

And what the fuck is up with “Fun Size”? You know what’s FUN?!? A FULL SIZE fucking Snickers bar!!!

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:30:24pm

re: #282 EPR-radar

Can it be that Trump really has been stupid enough to discuss things like blessing the Kashoggi murder and giving Ukraine to Russia on official phone calls?

And the people around him were corrupt enough to hide it all away.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:31:06pm

yep

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:32:00pm

re: #282 EPR-radar

Can it be that Trump really has been stupid enough to discuss things like blessing the Kashoggi murder and giving Ukraine to Russia on official phone calls?

Yes it is.

btw, do we know if Ukraine has a hard copy of those phone conversations that they’d be willing to share with us?

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:32:36pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

And it’s probably sitting on that classified server next to the Ukraine readout and likely every other readout that was trying to find dirt on Democrats (as in all of them).

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:33:02pm

Republicans for The Rule of Law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:33:08pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:34:08pm

re: #282 EPR-radar

Can it be that Trump really has been stupid enough to discuss things like blessing the Kashoggi murder and giving Ukraine to Russia on official phone calls?

The irony Gods are going to make a secret server Trump’s downfall.

That’s just the way things work, I should never have been in doubt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:35:40pm
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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:36:35pm

This may actually be the beginning of the end for the fat orange tyrant.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:37:04pm
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austin_blue  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:38:18pm

re: #279 lawhawk

I’d take these over kitkats any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

amazon.com

Man, those are *good*.

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TedStriker  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:38:25pm

re: #292 Stanley Sea

Republicans for The Rule of Law.

That’s all fine and good, but where in the hell have they been up till now?

Oh, I know: reaping the benefits of the power they got when Trump and Pence took office.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:38:50pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:38:53pm

re: #295 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The White House blocked Trump from calling world leaders?

This is slightly larger than taking away Grandpa’s keys….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:38:57pm

jeebus

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:39:17pm

Two GOP governors are backing impeachment.

Yeah, you read that right.

Vermont Gov. Scott
Mass. Gov. Baker

Yeah, I know - they’re New Englanders who are from deep blue states. But this has to start somewhere. The thoroughly corrupt and compromised GOP are going to drag this out because they wont openly admit that Trumpworld must be removed from office for the sheer volume of corruption and criminal acts - mostly because they continue to profit from Trump being in office.

As we close on 2020, those GOPers will weigh Trump as an anchor around their necks and their reelection chances, and they’ll dump Trump - doing it now may well give the GOP a chance to hold off another blue wave (but I doubt it).

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:40:31pm

…

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:04pm

re: #282 EPR-radar

Can it be that Trump really has been stupid enough to discuss things like blessing the Kashoggi murder and giving Ukraine to Russia on official phone calls?

Yes.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:47pm

It has been less than a week and we are already getting GOP defections.

This is not good for Hair Furor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:41:59pm

sure, Jan…

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:43:10pm

re: #301 b.d.

I think they hid the phone records of the calls with world leaders.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:44:05pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:45:35pm

re: #300 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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I’m not sure D_F knows the definition, or the experience, of ‘funny’.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:45:59pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

I’m not sure D_F knows the definition, or the experience, of ‘funny’.

he never did

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:47:03pm

I think it goes without saying that the Friday Night News dump is the gift that keeps on giving. It already feels like next Friday.

Trump hid additional comms on his secret server. These include from Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Everything Trump touches dies. And right now, the GOP are being wheeled into the ER. Their condition is unknown at the moment, but they appear to lack a spine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:47:07pm

the nightmare of a cat carrier…

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:47:20pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

Dark was a miserable bastard.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:47:53pm

The leaks are coming faster and furiouser.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:04pm

re: #134 Eclectic Cyborg

Update on the situation from earlier regarding my friends (very young) son: He’s been placed on life support but he has no chance of recovering. At this point it’s just a matter of determining when to make the final decision…

My sincere condolences for your friends and their child.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:06pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

the nightmare of a cat carrier…

Mrs. Fish took my old man kitty to the vet today. She has a picture of him encamped in my duffel bag, for lack of a cat carrier. She told me, “He refused to get in it, but now that he’s in it, he refuses to get out.”

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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:16pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

he never did

you can lead a falcon to humor, but you can’t make him laugh.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:25pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

the nightmare of a cat carrier…

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:48:49pm

re: #296 plansbandc

This may actually be the beginning of the end for the fat orange tyrant.

I’m also daring to hope. Realistically, if Trump transformed into a generic Republican asshole overnight and just shut up and stonewalled everything as in the usual GOP scandal playbook, there would be no chance of his removal from office.

But Trump can’t do that. He’s going to keep turning everything up to 11 every day, and even Republicans will get sick of that shit after a while.

E.g., that totally gratuitous business with the NRA today. The GOP has more money that God, and the whole point of having that kind of power is to fund what you want to fund without any embarrassment. So why on earth have a public quid pro quo festival with the NRA?

I think what has happened here is that Trump has purged everyone from his inner circle that is even capable of giving him sound advice.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:49:00pm

re: #315 jaunte

Pence is laying low, praying really hard with Mother.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:49:12pm

re: #300 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Once again, and on a different website, Dark Falcon is full of shit.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:49:33pm

re: #309 lawhawk

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:49:44pm

re: #315 jaunte

And Imperator Furiosa is leading the Democrats (Pelosi).

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:50:00pm

re: #321 Ace Rothstein

Mother and Pence are a two-legged stool.

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:50:24pm

an update on the Lizard Connectivity Initiative (yes, I just made that up), I’ve been able to find a couple of you, which led to me being able to link to a couple more, some of which were “blocked” from me being able to add initially. So, if you have my name and want to connect, you now may be able to find me. For those that need to get my details, I think they’re in the hidden section around the mid 30’s in this thread :-)

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:51:14pm

re: #311 Backwoods_Sleuth

he never did

Too true. His mask slipped most egregiously on those deplorable occasions where it was clear that he found cruelty to other to be humorous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:51:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:52:26pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

That reminds me of the Baron Harkonnen costume in Dune.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:52:33pm

re: #317 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

In other words, he’s a cat.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:52:55pm

re: #314 Ace Rothstein

Dark was a miserable bastard.

That’s an understatement after what that CENSORED posted that he was glad that my son was killed in Iraq.

And that CENSORED NEVER apologized.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:53:37pm

re: #145 CarolJ

More than cheapskate Trump. This is another irony: thanks to his trying to cover up the affair, he’s made her richer. And probably richer at her day job too. I mean , who outside of porn knew who Stormy Daniels was before this?

I had, and I don’t work in the porn industry (unless you count editing erotic Romance novels as “porn industry”).

I have to keep track of a lot of people for editing, so descriptions in novels are more realistic (unlike EL James’s editor).

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:53:48pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon 🌹

No fucking way. Holy shit, that guy is a fucking asshole.

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BlueSpotinAL  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:54:22pm

re: #166 retired cynic

I tried you on FB, and you weren’t offered up as an option under that name. Been trying to keep up!

The profile pic does not show to strangers, I think. Look for the city.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:54:31pm

re: #326 piratedan

an update on the Lizard Connectivity Initiative (yes, I just made that up), I’ve been able to find a couple of you, which led to me being able to link to a couple more, some of which were “blocked” from me being able to add initially. So, if you have my name and want to connect, you now may be able to find me. For those that need to get my details, I think they’re in the hidden section around the mid 30’s in this thread :-)

just now confirmed you!

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austin_blue  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:54:35pm

re: #331 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s an understatement after what that CENSORED posted that he was glad that my son was killed in Iraq.

And that CENSORED NEVER apologized.

Go ahead, say “evil fuckwit”. It’s cleansing.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:54:59pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

I’m not sure D_F knows the definition, or the experience, of ‘funny’.

There was / is something extremely off about that guy. For some reason this discussion reminds me of something I saw today when I went into Supercuts to get myself even more handsome (you’re welcome, ladies). A mother brought her son in and the kid was at least seven years old, and while he looked normal he threw tantrums over every aspect of the process. He was also sucking on a pacifier, it was very disturbing. The lady cutting my hair said they’d been coming in since he was three, and the Mom just indulges his worst impulses. I said his behavior was so severe that there had to be more to the story.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:56:25pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:56:46pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:58:05pm

“Okay Vlad, you get Ukraine, but you gotta give me 2020.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:58:10pm

*THUD*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:58:41pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:58:53pm

re: #337 goddamnedfrank

There was / is something extremely off about that guy. For some reason this discussion reminds me of something I saw today when I went into Supercuts to get myself even more handsome (you’re welcome, ladies). A mother brought her son in and the kid was at least seven years old, and while he looked normal he threw tantrums over every aspect of the process. He was also sucking on a pacifier, it was very disturbing. The lady cutting my hair said they’d been coming in since he was three, and the Mom just indulges his worst impulses. I said his behavior was so severe that there had to be more to the story.

Likewise. It’s one thing to have someone else do your thinking for you. That’s fairly common, even if the other person is dead. But to be out and proud about it and to actually defend it as being appropriate is way out there.

Especially when it was clear that the basic cognitive capability to recognize the fallacies that were being spouted was there.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 4:59:06pm

re: #315 jaunte

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The leaks are coming faster and furiouser.

LOL, Pence is leaking that he was totally not with the program.

LOL, Trump is learning real quick how Caesar felt on March 15th.

A better analogy is how Nicolae Ceaușescu felt awaiting the folks that he was sure were going to rescue him.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:00:26pm

re: #155 KGxvi

I don’t think it was the border wall rejection that was unanimous - that would be a big deal because it would be a veto-proof majority and thus a means of overriding Trump’s bogus national emergency. Senate website says it was 55-41 on that vote.

That was the first bill.

The second bill entered a couple days ago by Sen. Chuck Schumer was passed by unanimous consent.

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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:00:43pm

re: #344 b.d.

LOL, Pence is leaking that he was totally not with the program.

LOL, Trump is learning real quick how Caesar felt on March 15th.

A better analogy is how Nicolae Ceaușescu felt awaiting the folks that he was sure were going to rescue him.

The best thing about the fall of Trump is that everyone he fucked over will try to get their revenge. Most of these people recently are Republicans, and they aren’t nice like we are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:02pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:04pm
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wrenchwench  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:21pm

re: #337 goddamnedfrank

There was / is something extremely off about that guy. For some reason this discussion reminds me of something I saw today when I went into Supercuts to get myself even more handsome (you’re welcome, ladies). A mother brought her son in and the kid was at least seven years old, and while he looked normal he threw tantrums over every aspect of the process. He was also sucking on a pacifier, it was very disturbing. The lady cutting my hair said they’d been coming in since he was three, and the Mom just indulges his worst impulses. I said his behavior was so severe that there had to be more to the story.

My first guess is that the mother is indulging her own worst impulses, and has worse ones than the kid.

Thanks for the haircut. I may get one soon. I’m thinkin’ selfie, and I ain’t talkin pix.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:24pm

So it shouldn’t be long before our allies who Trump screwed over start leaking some of their intelligence on Trump?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:01:35pm

re: #328 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:03:14pm

re: #323 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Trump inherited his wealth. It’s not particularly liquid, and he’s highly leveraged. He also knows to use other people’s money to enrich himself, rather than use his own money.

He is a scammer and con artist, and lies about everything.

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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:04:28pm

re: #344 b.d.

LOL, Pence is leaking that he was totally not with the program.

LOL, Trump is learning real quick how Caesar felt on March 15th.

A better analogy is how Nicolae Ceaușescu felt awaiting the folks that he was sure were going to rescue him.

I’ve been fantasizing about Trump’s “Ceausescu Moment” for three years.

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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:06:05pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:06:08pm

re: #310 wrenchwench

Good to see you wench. Getting some cool weather yet?

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:06:29pm

re: #352 lawhawk

His current loans are close to a billion dollars, and they’re interest-only. They’re also due in three years. There is no way in hell that any of his businesses (other than the DC hotel) are in the black. When this whole sorry episode is over, he’ll be penniless.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:07:46pm

re: #356 Ace Rothstein

His current loans are close to a billion dollars, and they’re interest-only. They’re also due in three years. There is no way in hell that any of his businesses (other than the DC hotel) are in the black. When this whole sorry episode is over, he’ll be penniless.

Thoughts and prayers…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:08:10pm

I said a pressure drop,
Oh pressure, oh yeah
Pressure’s gonna drop on you
I said pressure drop
Oh pressure, oh yeah
Pressure’s gonna drop on you
I said when it drops
Oh you gonna feel it
Oh that you were doin’ it wrong, wrong, wrong
Now when it drops
Oh you gonna feel it
That you were doin’ it wrong and how

Toots & The Maytals - Pressure Drop

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:08:25pm

re: #313 Backwoods_Sleuth

the nightmare of a cat carrier…

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All I see is panic & suffocation. Horrible device.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:11:08pm

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:13:31pm

re: #337 goddamnedfrank

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:13:35pm

re: #360 plansbandc

“TRATORS”

sigh

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piratedan  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:13:38pm

re: #360 plansbandc

obviously a NYT Swing Voter……

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:02pm

re: #201 b.d.

glad I don’t live in Illinois……

You see a lot of people handing out SweetTarts here because we’re a suburb of Wyoming.

Our house is famous in the area for handing out full-size chocolate bars though (none of that “fun size” crap) … I swear we get people from forty miles away coming to our door.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:06pm

re: #360 plansbandc

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lol, how many pairs of glasses does that poster boy for lead paint have?

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:46pm

🤘

Greta Thunberg sings Swedish Death Metal

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:56pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:57pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

And what the fuck is up with “Fun Size”? You know what’s FUN?!? A FULL SIZE fucking Snickers bar!!!

Fun size=50kg chocolate bar.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:14:57pm

re: #363 piratedan

obviously a NYT Swing Voter……

hahahahaha

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:15:25pm

re: #365 b.d.

lol, how many pairs of glasses does that poster boy for lead paint have?

I can not unsee that nipslip…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:15:34pm

re: #360 plansbandc

That may be the dumbest tribal superiority argument of the year.

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:02pm

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹🎃

Fun size=50kg chocolate bar.

Fun Size is Doublespeak in our lifetime.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:10pm

re: #363 piratedan

No doubt.

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:10pm

“It’s OUR pledge, because Republic!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:15pm

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can not unsee that nipslip…

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:57pm

re: #364 Anymouse 🌹🎃

We like to hand out full size bars too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:16:59pm
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lawhawk  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:17:09pm

re: #360 plansbandc

Trator (sic).

These aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.

Just how the GOP likes them.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:17:24pm

re: #368 Anymouse 🌹🎃

That IS fun.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:17:54pm

re: #376 plansbandc

We like to hand out full size bars too.

we have never had a single trick or treater show up here ever in the 25+ years we’ve been here.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:18:17pm

re: #378 lawhawk

Trator (sic).

These aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed.

Just how the GOP likes them.

But, you know, don’t call them stupid.

If you do, they’ll feel honor bound to prove you right.

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plansbandc  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:19:29pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s still pretty big around here. We live in a cul-de-sac though, so it’s hit or miss.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:19:40pm

re: #380 Backwoods_Sleuth

we have never had a single trick or treater show up here ever in the 25+ years we’ve been here.

But you still buy the candy, right?

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:20:16pm

I’m interested in watching how the news media these Trator guys like to watch will try to stretch a scrim over the eruption of crime leaks happening now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:20:42pm

re: #382 plansbandc

It’s still pretty big around here. We live in a cul-de-sac though, so it’s hit or miss.

ya know TheBackwoods are scary when even the police won’t come into the holler after dark.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:20:48pm

re: #383 Blind Frog Belly White

But you still buy the candy, right?

I say that because we get maybe 1 family a year (might be the same family), or less. But we buy the candy.

Then, because nobody came, we’re forced to eat it ourselves.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:20:55pm

re: #383 Blind Frog Belly White

But you still buy the candy, right?

I take the fifth…

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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:21:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:21:16pm

re: #365 b.d.

lol, how many pairs of glasses does that poster boy for lead paint have?

Close far sun LOL

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:21:24pm

Richard Prince has disowned his Ivanka Trump work, but he can’t wash his hands so easily

The art provocateur may have returned his $36,000 fee but he is more complicit in the rise of the president-elect than he thinks

(Goes to The Guardian op-ed page)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:22:50pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:23:25pm
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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:23:54pm

Alas, the overdubbing of the Hitler bunker movie meeting meme time seems to have passed.

They could sure make some good ones now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:24:40pm

re: #393 b.d.

Alas, the overdubbing of the Hitler bunker movie meeting meme time seems to have passed.

They could sure make some good ones now.

My thought exactly.

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:25:24pm

Seems like it’s happening, right? RIGHT?!?

Giphy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:30:36pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:32:45pm

Borowitz Report:

“Trump’s Lawyers Argue That He Cannot Be Impeached Because He Was Never Actually Elected”

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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:33:32pm
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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:34:23pm

Randy Quaide joins the list of MAGAt washed up actors

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BigPapa  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:35:00pm

Anybody remember Stand By Me the movie? I’ve been thinking that the collapse will be a Complete and Total Barforama.

stand by me barf-o-rama

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Belafon  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:35:16pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

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WW3 is being fought without borders, alliances split across countries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:37:24pm
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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:38:33pm

Wholly crap, my regional newspaper printed an op-ed from a liberal author/columnist making the case for impeachment.

HARROP: Help Wanted: Republicans Willing to Defend Country (Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald, op-ed by Froma Harrop)

For Democrats, political reasons to avoid stepping on the road to impeachment still stand. But political complications have collapsed in importance compared with reasons to move ahead.

The burning issue is no longer ordinary corruption like President Donald Trump’s skimming taxpayer money for his hotel properties or lying about payoffs to a porn star. It’s not even major corruption, like asking a hostile foreign power to help him in the 2016 election.

It stems from Trump’s astonishing decision to freeze millions in aid to Ukraine as he pushed that country’s leader to dig up dirt on his rival, former Vice President Joe Biden, and Biden’s son. Ukraine is under attack by Vladimir Putin’s Russia and needs that money for weapons to defend itself.

(more)

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:39:49pm

re: #399 gocart mozart

Randy Quaide joins the list of MAGAt washed up actors

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Donald Trump really isn’t the right guy to be betting all of his chips on the “nepotism is bad” angle……

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:40:07pm

re: #399 gocart mozart

Randy Quaide joins the list of MAGAt washed up actors

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But, you know, his question doesn’t even make sense. Biden was HOLDING UP the aid, which was then paid to Ukraine after Shokin was fired. The aid was approved by Congress which was then controlled by the GOP.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:40:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:40:41pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:41:04pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:43:37pm
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jaunte  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:44:23pm

re: #409 teleskiguy

I’m an innocent bystander
But somehow I got stuck

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:44:46pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:44:54pm

re: #396 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is Kellyanne giving up the ghost?

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b.d. (They're all guilty as sin)  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:46:27pm

re: #409 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Good choice.

Counter.

The Traveling Wilburys - Handle With Care (Official Video)

I was horribly shocked to find out that when Roy Orbison was my age he had been dead for 2 years!

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garzooma  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:47:04pm

So this is interesting. Rudy and Trump have been basing their Biden fantasy on the word of the Ukrainian prosecutor who Biden wanted fired, one Viktor Shokin. There’s been a good deal of debunking of this. And Shokin seems to be a piece of work. There’s a good takedown by a Tom Rogan in the Washington Examiner (of all places), calling him “a deeply corrupt Ukrainian swamp monster.”

But beyond that, Josh Marshall uncovered an interesting detail:

“In a newly sworn affidavit prepared for a European court, Shokin testified that when he was fired in March 2016, he was told the reason was that Biden was unhappy about the Burisma investigation.”

…I clicked on the link to see what this affidavit was. On its face, it is as he says. It has Shokin laying out a pretty maximal case against Biden. It is dated September 4, 2019. There’s no clear reference to the provenance of this document. But let’s assume it is legit as far as it goes. Right there at the top, as his first attestation, Shokin states: “I make this statement at the request of the lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash (“DF”), for use in legal proceedings in Austria.”
[…]
And what is Firtash’s Austrian legal proceeding?

The most well known one is fighting extradition to the United States to face bribery charges in federal court in Chicago. Firtash fled Ukraine after the Maidan Revolution and decamped to Austria where he has lived in what has been called a “golden cage” ever since. Months after fleeing he was indicted in the United States. Unable to return to Ukraine and vulnerable to a U.S. warrant, he has remained in Austria, managing his vast business empire while fighting extradition to the United States.

So Rudy is vouching for an affidavit filed to help a fugitive from justice escape trial.

I hadn’t been paying too much attention to Rudy’s bogus accusations against Biden, thinking that the fact he didn’t go to the FBI says all that needs to be said. But now I’m thinking it might be a good idea to tie Trump to this Shokin character.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:47:27pm

re: #412 Stanley Sea

Is Kellyanne giving up the ghost?

probably not

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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:47:50pm

re: #413 b.d.

Weird to think the oldest guys in that band are the ones who are still alive.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:47:57pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:48:14pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:48:45pm

After embarrassing Trump phone calls with foreign leaders leaked a few years ago, Steps Were Taken.

Instead of something intelligent, like treating all presidential phone calls the same and locking them all up tighter than gnat’s asshole, these idiots appear to have settled on this as a way to handle Trump phone calls:

“Fucking Hell, Trump has shit the bed again. This call transcript goes to the special server. God I hope the Democrats never find out about the special server.”

This is like sub-Keystone Kops idiocy. Unbelievable.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:48:46pm

re: #406 Dread Pirate

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:50:02pm

re: #413 b.d.

Good choice.

Counter.

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I was horribly shocked to find out that when Roy Orbison was my age he had been dead for 2 years!

Memory of the first time I saw Roy Orbison on TV. Must have been only 5 or 6 years old. He stood on a bare stage played the guitar. He didn’t shuffle his legs or swing the hips like Elvis did. But wow what a powerful voice. And those BIG SUNGLASSES!!!!!!!

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stpaulbear  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:56:22pm

re: #337 goddamnedfrank

There was / is something extremely off about that guy. For some reason this discussion reminds me of something I saw today when I went into Supercuts to get myself even more handsome (you’re welcome, ladies). A mother brought her son in and the kid was at least seven years old, and while he looked normal he threw tantrums over every aspect of the process. He was also sucking on a pacifier, it was very disturbing. The lady cutting my hair said they’d been coming in since he was three, and the Mom just indulges his worst impulses. I said his behavior was so severe that there had to be more to the story.

I think the thing that D_F liked about LGF was that he could have conversations about weapons (weapons were porn to him) with people who didn’t want to use them to murder other people (like at the wingnut sites). He tried to be very polite, but then he’d slip up and let his crappy politics show, and then blame it on his upbringing (he never considered, you know, changing). I was really glad that he finally left.

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gocart mozart  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:56:56pm
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steve_davis  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:56:58pm

re: #203 Blind Frog Belly White

KitKat? KITKAT?!? Are you fucking kidding me?

And what the fuck is up with “Fun Size”? You know what’s FUN?!? A FULL SIZE fucking Snickers bar!!!

I am teased at both my on-ground jobs for my adherence to Snickers deification (and yes, I spelled that right!). I don’t get to eat a normal lunch, and so rely on Snickers to get me through until the end of my shift. It is an outstanding entree! I have breakfast, second breakfast, munch, brunch, and then lunch.

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MsJ  Sep 27, 2019 • 5:58:31pm

re: #399 gocart mozart

Except he’s always been a complete lunatic.

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steve_davis  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:02:06pm

re: #243 b.d.

Those and Chesterfields

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no unpleasant aftertaste, except the rotting pieces of lung you cough up while drowning in your own phlegm in the hospital.

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Anymouse 🌹🎃  Sep 27, 2019 • 6:32:57pm

(deleted by me, too far behind the conversation)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:26:43pm

re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ugh. I hope they’ve got tight security around her. Especially now. I’m expecting some Trumpster to go after her.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 27, 2019 • 8:33:25pm

re: #362 Backwoods_Sleuth

“TRATORS”

sigh

Socialist potatoes.


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