Donald Trump’s impeachment defense attorney, Alan Dershowitz, took to the Senate lectern today with an argument reminiscent of Richard Nixon’s declaration, “when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.” #Monologue #Impeachment #Comedy
Just when you thought you couldn’t possibly be any more disgusted with these vile creatures. https://t.co/EH3DACxw9y
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
Aqua Buddha submits a question he knew would either not get read or wouldn’t receive an answer, immediately runs outside to the press to make a big stink about it, and Roberts doesn’t blink an eye despite this being a clear violation of the rules.
They don’t even care about presenting this as anything but a farce anymore. They have the votes to block witnesses and then push for swift “acquittal,” all it is now is just grumbling their way through to the finish line.
Sekulow is saying the “33 days” thing again. pic.twitter.com/73XYWVu6rR
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 30, 2020
McConnell opened proceedings today with something of a preemptive semi-apology for the Rand question we now know was coming up next.
“We’ve been respectful of the chief justice’s unique position in reading our questions,” wanted to assure him that consideration would continue— Andrew Prokop (@awprokop) January 30, 2020
I haven’t watched any of this shit show on tv. Until now when I just happened to come home. Turned on the TV and here’s Adam Schiff speaking truth to power.
Sekulow argues that we should not remove a president from office in an election “season.” Constitution does not give President freedom to abuse his office during any season.
— Barb McQuade (@BarbMcQuade) January 30, 2020
Rick Wilson received death threats to his family yesterday after the whole ‘U Crane’ segment on CNN.
Looks like Rick found out who it was.
Hi, @consultclarity. Can you DM me please?
I have a matter regarding one of your employees I’d like to discuss.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) January 30, 2020
US confirms first person-to-person spread of coronavirus on its soil. All the latest updates: https://t.co/1GJN8XzBKM pic.twitter.com/bfwxnYfLbg
— Al Jazeera News (@AJENews) January 30, 2020
re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth
So that’s why Trump has been campaigning non-stop since he was sworn in.
Trump cultists already out in force insisting that Dershowitz didn’t say the words we all heard him say.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
Elon left hanging on his own
Tesla directors settle, isolating Musk as SolarCity trial looms https://t.co/CXJqWmVs2W pic.twitter.com/xbrcNJv9i7
— Reuters (@Reuters) January 30, 2020
re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus
Same bulkshit legal argument McConnell made in blocking Obama judicial nominations from considering, including Merrick Garland for the US Supreme Ct. The GOP just makes it up as they go along to preserve their power at any cost.
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 30, 2020
Well, I guess I should be happy there isn’t a rising column of smoke visible through my back deck door
#BREAKING: The flight was traveling out of Miami and destined for Chicago when it was diverted to Jacksonville International Airport. https://t.co/KndE3TpVZO
— News4JAX (@wjxt4) January 30, 2020
re: #7 makeitstop
Rick Wilson received death threats to his family yesterday after the whole ‘U Crane’ segment on CNN.
Looks like Rick found out who it was.
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Is the pro-life death threat from this dolt?
My name is Rick Wilson and I can’t take what I dish out. I’m going to tattle tale because words hurt me
— Troy Parker (@c4user) January 30, 2020
Paul walking out to do a presser
Other r’s blatantly flouting the rules they themselves voted for?
If there’s never any consequences, what’s the friggin point?
George H.W. Bush’s grandson running for Texas congressional seat on pro-Trump platform https://t.co/ofGxlKg7S2 pic.twitter.com/QpDBI9AE7u
— New York Post (@nypost) January 30, 2020
re: #9 GlutenFreeJesus
So that’s why Trump has been campaigning non-stop since he was sworn in.
Trump believes that “Being President” is the prize that he entitled to by “winning” the election (even if he had to cheat but YOU CAN’T PROVE ANYTHING). He thinks his “job” is “campaigning to win the election” (EVEN IF IT IS “RIGGED”). He has no interest in actually doing the job of President because it’s not a “job” to him, it is a trophy.
re: #14 Dr. Matt
Is the pro-life death threat from this dolt?
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Don’t think so. The company referenced in Wilson’s tweet is in California, that dude is in Florida.
Senator Rand Paul (R-Kremlin): “Forget the robbery. We want the rat who called the cops!”
When I get to 500,000 followers I’ll send that flood you want so bad.
— God (@thegoodgodabove) January 30, 2020
So #RussianRand names the whistleblower and Roberts gives him a pass…
“…his most frequently visited website was the subreddit ‘Men Going Their Own Way’ (MGTOW), an online misogynistic hub, which he visited “tens of thousands of times” between 2017 and 2019…” https://t.co/nypalbj5YS
— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) January 30, 2020
Miss Owen’s tweet starts an 8 part thread worth reading
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Hasson is asking the judge to forego prison time and sentence him to three years supervision. Prosecutors are hoping for the maximum sentence of 25 years.
— Tess Owen (@misstessowen) January 30, 2020
CL’ed
I am tired, very tired, of US foreign policy towards Israel being “Israel must exist so Jesus can return.” This is not just unhelpful, it’s outrageously crazy, given that many Americans do not share ths essentially religious belief. You’re not helping, Brody.
— Dee “I don’t suffer fools gladly” Holmes (@mmmirele) January 30, 2020
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” ~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Too bad that isn’t true. Does anyone here think that Hitler could have been driven from power by love? It matters who has the light and who shows the love. If the German people had been infused with love in the first place, Hitler would never have attained power.
Many in the GOP rant about 2nd amendment solutions. Of course, they think they will be the ones administering those solutions against liberals. But the question remains, once evil attains a foothold in a nation — how do you dislodge it? And it has attained a deep foothold now. The modern GOP poisons everything in this nation.
re: #22 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀
If he walks, he’s going to kill.
From last thread:
re: #396 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I’m imagining how well Republicans will just accept a Democratic president doing all the things that they’ve declared presidents can do.
I assume that soon as there is a Democrat in the WH, most/all Congressional Republicans will do a 180-degree turn in attitude, suddenly rediscover their dedication to the rule of law, and “proper” constraints on Presidential powers, and deal with any criticism of this volte-face with the usual GOP answer: “Well, you criticized me for NOT taking this position then, why are you criticizing me for taking it now?”
re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus
If he walks, he’s going to kill.
Yeah, I’m not thinking the judge is gonna go with the defense recommendation
Remember when Republicans were trying to convince us that Obama was going to ignore all the laws and seize absolute power for himself?
Fun times.
Not good news: looks like everyone infected here with virus may need to be isolated (my opinion)
My home town — and where my niece and her family live.
What’s the chance there will even be a tie for him to break? I’m thinking close to 0%. https://t.co/13eyRzWFxe
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
re: #19 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Senator Rand Paul (R-Kremlin): “Forget the robbery. We want the rat who called the cops!”
Correction: Paul’s proper title of office is “Capo.” I apologize to Underboss McConnell for the error.
Hey, I called this yesterday! I’m a jenius.
📈Searches are spiking today for ‘l’état, c’est moi,’ meaning “I myself am the nation.” https://t.co/FvCuW7eU3T
— Merriam-Webster (@MerriamWebster) January 30, 2020
.@GretaThunberg has been forced to trademark her name to stop people and companies from using it without her permission. https://t.co/d1gtndujZ8
— The New Daily (@TheNewDailyAu) January 30, 2020
re: #35 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Correction: Paul’s proper title of office is “Capo.” I apologize to Underboss McConnell for the error.
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Would that make Stephen Miller the Consigliere? or Jared and Ivanka?
re: #38 Eclectic Cyborg
Would that make Stephen Miller the Consigliere? or Jared and Ivanka?
Stephen’s the smart one, so I would bet on him.
Also important to note: Even though risk to general American public is low, CDC says it expects more cases of the virus to be confirmed in the U.S. in the coming days and weeks, including transmissions from person-to-person.https://t.co/P4cFz8nO24
— Olivia Messer 💀 (@OliviaMesser) January 30, 2020
re: #39 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
Stephen’s the smart one, so I would bet on him.
Fredo and Alt-Fredo demand respect. They’re smart.
re: #40 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
The human to human transmission case is the spouse of someone who caught it in Wuhan, so not super surprising.
re: #36 Barefoot Grin
Hey, I called this yesterday! I’m a jenius.
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It more correctly translates as, “I am the state.”
Amazing design https://t.co/v1bnnVVHp4
— ashindi (@ashindi) January 30, 2020
re: #29 Hecuba’s daughter
Not good news: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/health/coronavirus-illinois-person-to-person-cdc/index.html
Sounds like, for now, everyone infected may need to be isolated.
And the Infowar fucknuts are chiming in: factcheck.org
re: #43 Dread Pirate
It more correctly translates as, “I am the state.”
This is why “I want you to do us a favor” in the perfect phone call obviously meant “I want you to do me a favor.” To La Dotard it’s the same thing.
re: #26 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
Nature may abhor a vacuum. But not as much as a cat.
When traveling, it’s always a priority to thank our @StateDept team who work hard to advance diplomacy that represents the best of the American people. @USAinUK does an amazing job fostering a strong U.S.-UK #SpecialRelationship. Keep up the great work guys. pic.twitter.com/C4uv6weHrg
— Secretary Pompeo (@SecPompeo) January 30, 2020
The ‘team’ responded with, “Fuck you very much.” under their collective breath.
re: #48 Dread Pirate
“But fuck all those reporters we have to travel with.”
BernieBros
CENTRIST DEMS: Follow our strategy or Trump will win.
PROGRESSIVES: How did that work out for you last time?— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) January 30, 2020
re: #51 Dr. Matt
BernieBros
“Well, adopting the most progressive platform ever didn’t seem to do it.”
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
good question. don’t know how many Senators really want to vote yes (for substantive or political reasons), but I’m fairly certain he knows how many he has to play with.
— Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) January 30, 2020
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
We’re all f*ed.
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
We’re all fucked.
re: #43 Dread Pirate
It more correctly translates as, “I am the state.”
That was Louis XIV, right? Shortly before being dragged to the guilottiene?
re: #55 Dread Pirate
Bernie couldn’t even win the nomination.
IT WAS RIGGED!!! TOTALLY RIGGED!!! HILLARY STOLE THE NOMINATION….
re: #58 sagehen
That was Louis XIV, right? Shortly before being dragged to the guilottiene?
I believe so.
re: #58 sagehen
That was Louis XIV, right? Shortly before being dragged to the guilottiene?
Louis XIV said “L’etat c’est moi!” His grandson (Louis XVI) got dragged to the guillotine.
re: #55 Dread Pirate
Bernie couldn’t even win the nomination.
he would have if everyone had voted for him //
How does a lawyer know if it harmed national security. Does he have documentation showing an analysis?
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
We are in the primaries, so some of this has to be looked through that lens. It’s what happens after Super Tuesday that will really be the tell. And I think most of it will be bots and trolls (I would include Republicans but that’s redundant).
I’m sure forcing Roberts to rule on additional witness testimony is a great idea for the GOP.
Like, I’m sure he’d just fucking love having to do that.
We’re not going to need a meteor. The sheer weight of all the “stupid” on the internet is bound to crack the planet in half
NEW: Some Facebook users are posting photos of Clorox bottles to spread a conspiracy about the source of the coronavirus. Clorox bottles aren’t proof that the coronavirus was “developed” before its outbreak in China, https://t.co/oNEZ6ufumc #CoronaVirusFacts pic.twitter.com/85HASXYCXG
— PolitiFact (@PolitiFact) January 30, 2020
re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
We’re not going to need a meteor. The sheer weight of all the “stupid” on the internet is bound to crack the planet in half
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Oh for fuck sakes.
Coronaviruses have been around a long time. Hell, remember SARS from SIXTEEN years ago??
It’s this particular STRAIN which is new.
The dress has been tested. We have the results. My attorney @kaplanrobbie has served notice to @realDonaldTrump’s attorney to submit a sample of Trump’s DNA.https://t.co/iIM6kQZxuX
— E. Jean Carroll (@ejeancarroll) January 30, 2020
re: #43 Dread Pirate
It more correctly translates as, “I am the state.”
C’est moi! C’est moi! The angels have chose
To fight their battles below,
And here I stand, as pure as a pray’r,
Incredibly clean, with virtue to spare,
The godliest man I know!
C’est moi!
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
Not going to happen. The bernibro purists will fuck us all over, again. Just because they didn’t get their way.
re: #68 jaunte
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he’s gonna fight this tooth and nail (without giving up teeth or nails for analysis)
re: #25 Hecuba’s daughter
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” ~Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Too bad that isn’t true. Does anyone here think that Hitler could have been driven from power by love? It matters who has the light and who shows the love. If the German people had been infused with love in the first place, Hitler would never have attained power.
Many in the GOP rant about 2nd amendment solutions. Of course, they think they will be the ones administering those solutions against liberals. But the question remains, once evil attains a foothold in a nation — how do you dislodge it? And it has attained a deep foothold now. The modern GOP poisons everything in this nation.
I fear that the guns are going to be turned on them and it ain’t gonna be pretty!
re: #53 Eclectic Cyborg
If the Left is incapable of getting their shit together to stop something as terrible as Trump we’re all fucked.
There just has to be a point where minor differences are set aside for the greater good.
I’m the greatest good you’re ever gonna get.
re: #71 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
She might just be trying to make him live surrounded by jars of his own urine.
The defense is just repeating a half dozen talking points over and over.
There is no logical consistency to any of the arguments. It’s all just a smoke screen to keep the facts from coming out.
It’s actually remarkable how much we know about Trump’s conduct since he issued a blanket ban on current and former officials cooperating https://t.co/SevVppgxk9— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) January 30, 2020
re: #74 jaunte
She might just be trying to make him live surrounded by jars of his own urine.
And dried out KFC bones.
Search terms used by defendant:
“How to rid the us of jews”
“Jews enemy of the world.”
“George soros lives where”
“Jews in us gov”
“List of rabbis by state”
“How can white people rise against the jews”
He is a terrorist white nationalist.https://t.co/36eKm0LvvZ— Jeremy Price (@dr_jfprice) January 30, 2020
“Noted contrast” doing a LOT of work in this headline. https://t.co/Ofx4t0yMhL
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
I would have gone with “directly contradicting,” but I’m not @CNN.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
This is a good day for all of Trump’s victims to announce news.
Isn’t this the opposite of not congregating in public space for fear of infection?
— Kirsten Wilkins (@contestedspaces) January 30, 2020
Imagine being Donald Trump Jr and tweeting this. https://t.co/ayG6eHxF91
— Nunca Trump (@NeverTrumpTexan) January 30, 2020
There is gas and there is light and then there’s this.
re: #1 Charles Johnson
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Can someone explain to me why Paul shouldn’t be held civilly, if not criminally, liable in the event something happened to the folks he just named?
re: #82 jaunte
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There is gas and there is light and then there’s this.
Donald the Lesser should have his wish granted and be subpoenaed for testimony.
re: #81 Dread Pirate
Yeah well, Amazon doesn’t provide next day home delivery throughout most of China
//— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀😷 (@FormerDirtDart) January 30, 2020
Make no mistake: the argument by the President and his lawyers that it is somehow OK to accept assistance from a foreign government is an open invitation to Russia, China, and other adversaries to interfere in future elections.
— Mark Warner (@MarkWarner) January 30, 2020
New: Newly released video shows indicted Giuliani associate Igor Fruman with RNC chief Ronna McDaniel. She hugs him during a Trump event at Mar a Lago and says she’s “so glad” he’s there. https://t.co/bZnEk6Hm5m
— Natasha Bertrand (@NatashaBertrand) January 30, 2020
“…Bondy’s decision to release the second recording is part of a broader strategy to prove that his client, Parnas, was just one small part of the effort to damage Biden that ultimately led to Trump’s impeachment—and that everyone was in the loop on that plan.
To that end, Bondy has been tweeting photos of Parnas with various Trump allies—including members of his legal team, Pam Bondi and Jay Sekulow—who have either claimed not to know Parnas or declined to call for witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trial.”
1999 Lindsey Graham continues to annoy the crap out of 2020 Lindsey Graham
— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀😷 (@FormerDirtDart) January 30, 2020
Bondy may be holding back the tapes of Parnas with Senators.
re: #81 Dread Pirate
A couple points:
1) yeah, that’s congregating in a crowd
2) people in Asia are more likely to wear masks than others, particularly to deal with air pollution and allergies.
3) there’s no word on whether this is actually effective in reducing exposure/spread of Wuhan coronavirus.
4) we still aren’t clear on the incubation period and how easy it is to transmit.
“I don’t need him to be like me. I need to be safe”: Pennsylvania woman explains to CBS This Morning’s @AnthonyMasonCBS why she’s going to vote for Donald Trump, despite not agreeing with everything he says https://t.co/HFyrGnHHIi pic.twitter.com/iZ6bW3G1BJ
— CBS News (@CBSNews) January 30, 2020
So here’s my not-so-bold prediction:
Tomorrow the GOP holds its so-called “witnesses” vote, and all GOPers (save for perhaps two who are either vulnerable like Collins or immune to defeat like Murkowski/Romney) vote against. Then they vote to acquit, either the same day or Monday, just in time for the State of the Gloating Union.
Hope Pelosi has a Plan B.
re: #83 Mike Lamb
Can someone explain to me why Paul shouldn’t be held civilly, if not criminally, liable in the event something happened to the folks he just named?
“R”
re: #94 The Pie Overlord!
She enjoys an adulterated pork sandwich while drinking coal effluent from the tap.
re: #88 jaunte
Remember, that’s RNC chief Ronna Romney McDaniel.
re: #89 jaunte
its one thing to say the senate is part of a cover up because they wont call witnesses etc
its quite another to say specific people - graham, sessions, nunes, etc were in the loop and some in fact are taking an active part in the covering up efforts because they are covering their own asses as well
I’m honestly of the belief that the only thing that is preventing Trump from announcing intent to pass a “Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Nation” as soon as the impeachment trial ends is the fact they haven’t yet figured out how to prevent about 50 Democratic House members from being able to vote.
re: #98 jaunte
She enjoys an adulterated pork sandwich while drinking coal effluent from the tap.
She means “safe” from dangerous “Brown” & “Black” people.
With lots of talk about a possible 50-50 tie vote on witnesses, I went back to the Andrew Johnson impeachment trial - and I did find where the Chief Justice broke a tie vote pic.twitter.com/ddtyETnI56
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) January 30, 2020
2. On the Dec. 6, 2018 meeting:
“According to what Parnas told his confidants…Parnas said that [Trump]…talked about tasking him and Fruman with what Parnas described as ‘a secret mission’ to pressure the Ukrainian government to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter.”— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) January 30, 2020
Trump lawyer Eric Herschmann argues the Senate cannot impeach Trump when his approval rating is so high. That’s quite an argument when, just two days ago, even the conservative Washington Examiner admitted that less than half the country (almost 5% less than half) approve of him.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) January 30, 2020
Why are cheerleaders allowed in this trial?
re: #95 Interesting Times
So here’s my not-so-bold prediction:
Tomorrow the GOP holds its so-called “witnesses” vote, and all GOPers (save for perhaps two who are either vulnerable like Collins or immune to defeat like Murkowski/Romney) vote against. Then they vote to acquit, either the same day or Monday, just in time for the State of the
GloatingUnion.Hope Pelosi has a Plan B.
Well she could refuse him entry into the chamber. That’s her turf. But doing so would look petty and vindictive. I wouldn’t put it past Speaker Pelosi to have a plan in place to sandbag the asshole if he tries to pull anything. Remember the “slow clap” seen around the world? She’s capable of far worse given ass-wipes record to date.
I call this the “Shut up, you’re supposed to be happy” argument.
— David Gura (@davidgura) January 30, 2020
WHAT HAS YOUR SENATOR ASKED? And why am I screaming that?
Just for you - we are making our nerdy spreadsheet public. Filling out in real time (you can watch).
Consider an RT. It’s a labor of love. https://t.co/HBCXUtNhXb— Lisa Desjardins (@LisaDNews) January 30, 2020
re: #94 The Pie Overlord!
She doesn’t understand safe either.
In case you missed it:
Australian army soldiers cuddle, feed koalas rescued from bushfires
Soldiers with the Australian army came to the rescue of several hungry koalas saved from the bushfires ravaging the country.
Several servicemen and women were seen cuddling the koalas — swaddled in blankets — during feeding time at the Cleland Wildlife Park in Crafers, South Australia, in a photo posted to Instagram by the army on Tuesday.
MORE: 6-year-old has raised over $250K for Australian wildfires by making clay koalas
The soldiers appeared attentive and content as they tended to their new furry friends.
Nadler is now speaking to Collins, Murkowski and Romney — addressing their question abut mixed (i.e. both personal and public interest) motives:
“We never, in American law, look at decent motives if you have a corrupt motive.”— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 30, 2020
re: #97 BigPapa
‘me = safe’
There it is.
Just don’t get older.
Column: Trump makes his most aggressive move yet to gut Medicaid https://t.co/rC8bIrXBVs
— Michael Hiltzik (@hiltzikm) January 30, 2020
FLAG:
Sen. Portman, last known person outside
White House to speak w Trump before Ukraine aid was released, said “corruption” never came up in their Sept. 11 call.
“He only raised one issue, and that issue only, and that was about Europeans not doing enough,” Portman said. https://t.co/oHH4obtEOq— Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) January 30, 2020
It would be something to see if Roberts made a tie breaking vote in FAVOR of having witnesses and made the GOP collectively shit their pants.
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re: #101 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos
I’m honestly of the belief that the only thing that is preventing Trump from announcing intent to pass a “Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Nation” as soon as the impeachment trial ends is the fact they haven’t yet figured out how to prevent about 50 Democratic House members from being able to vote.
He could order the military to arrest Democratic members of the House prior to the vote, provided, of course, he felt it was in the national interest.
re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg
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Just got out of seeing Citizen K. Horrifying how reality here is imitating that and Trump’s co-signing of Putin.
well, I guess the part I simply don’t understand very well is this… okay, say you want to allow that extortion of an ally is somehow “legal” for whatever bullshit reason you choose to create…
on the other hand… ignoring Congressional subpoenas for both material witness and providing zero documents is indeed Criminal Obstruction of Justice and I have no idea how you can simply just wave your hand and say that it simply doesn’t matter.
Every other impeachment proceeding has had some level of the administration that was under the threat of impeachment or in the process of being impeached provided documentation, Johnson, Nixon, and Clinton. For these supposed public servants to turn a blind eye to THIS seems to be an invitation to untold levels of fuckery, why document anything, who cares, we’re not gonna let you see it. If those laws are tossed, I can see where people simply start taking “justice” into their own hands because if the lawmakers can start ignoring what laws are to be obeyed, people will draw the unfortunate conclusion of why bother.
WH budget official Mark Sandy testified he’d heard nothing about European burden sharing playing a role in the hold up until right after Congress started investigating.
Laura Cooper, Pentagon Ukraine expert, also has “no recollection” of European “burden sharing” coming up in— Heidi Przybyla (@HeidiNBC) January 30, 2020
Ronna ROMNEY McDaniel, come on down!
Politico on the new video released by the attorney for Lev Parnas: “The video shows RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel greeting Fruman with a hug and saying, ‘I’m so glad you’re here,’ before asking whether he’s ever been to Trump’s Florida estate Mar-a-Lago.” https://t.co/ZiCd6jFl7w
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 30, 2020
Nobuddy knew the guy….
Trump’s most recent budget proposed cutting the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention by $750 million https://t.co/BYnrudrZ44
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 30, 2020
re: #125 makeitstop
Ronna ROMNEY McDaniel, come on down!
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Nobuddy knew the guy….
Schrodinger’s Fixer. This is really creepy.
How to drink in an elegant manner? pic.twitter.com/pbTVzlAXnA
— People’s Daily, China (@PDChina) January 30, 2020
Three Democratic senators — Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ) & Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) — are considering a vote to acquit Pres. Trump in the impeachment trial, @NorahODonnell reports https://t.co/JyDR8F7R9g pic.twitter.com/4vJomLYCBw
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) January 30, 2020
Trump explicitly contradicted this on the front lawn of the White House. Everyone remember that? https://t.co/I6EZwQd3Bd
— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) January 30, 2020
re: #120 Mike Lamb
He could order the military to arrest Democratic members of the House prior to the vote,
provided, of course, he felt it was in the national interest.
no, he does not have to feel it was in the national interest
‘national interest’ is now a convenient post hoc justification for anything goes
re: #97 BigPapa
‘me = safe’
There it is.
Just don’t be a woman.
The Access Hollywood President has narrowed what domestic violence includes - “psychological abuse, coercive control and manipulation no longer fall under the department’s definition.” Are no longer included. https://t.co/LWhte3g8dj
— Maya Wiley (@mayawiley) January 30, 2020
re: #130 The Pie Overlord!
As we all know, even a single D vote to not remove Trump from office will be spun forever by the both-siderist media as “Bipartisan exoneration of Trump totally refutes partisan House Impeachment Bullshit”.
I’m not hoping for Republicans to break ranks, but I am hoping that Democrats are disciplined on this vote.
re: #133 jaunte
Everything that matters. Everything we thought was settled and understood is getting destroyed. Everything.
Recorded
LIVE: Press conference on the Emergency Committee meeting on #2019nCoV https://t.co/hTQam7RWc9
— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 30, 2020
re: #132 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
no, he does not have to feel it was in the national interest
‘national interest’ is now a convenient post hoc justification for anything goes
All Trump has to do is claim that what he does is in the national interest. For a liar like Trump, that is no hurdle at all.
re: #130 The Pie Overlord!
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Do the right thing guys. He hasn’t provided any evidence of innocence. Don’t give him fuel.
re: #130 The Pie Overlord!
Anyone that lives in their states should call them. I don’t see how they can not vote in favor of obstruction. Also, clickbait title.
re: #133 jaunte
Just don’t be a woman.
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So he’s trying to make “Grab em by the pussy” a totally legal thing now?
Now, I’m no expert.
But, these two videos appear to be the same construction site.
Are the building two hospitals next to each other?
Day 6 of constructing Huoshenshan Hospital in #Wuhan, a new facility providing 700 to 1,000 beds for #coronavirus infected patients, which is expected to be completed on Feb 2. pic.twitter.com/HE6GNhp0Et
— People’s Daily, China (@PDChina) January 29, 2020
The construction of 2nd makeshift hospital, Leishenshan, for #coronavirus patients in #Wuhan, the epicenter of #outbreak, is 40% completed.1,600 beds are planned in Leishenshan Hospital. pic.twitter.com/KI3DVu3wua
— People’s Daily, China (@PDChina) January 30, 2020
re: #139 Belafon
Anyone that lives in their states should call them. I don’t see how they can not vote in favor of obstruction. Also, clickbait title.
Correct. Undecided does not equal “will vote to acquit”.
So, human rights are negotiable, but Medicare for All is not. The lives of trans people are disposable, not student loan forgiveness. The voting rights of Black people are meh, not free college. The depths Bernie’s people will go to stand by Bernie is always a disappointment
— I want a multiverse where Trump sells Herb-a-Life (@Cajsa) January 30, 2020
re: #120 Mike Lamb
He could order the military to arrest Democratic members of the House prior to the vote, provided, of course, he felt it was in the national interest.
Fortunately there’s clauses 90-92 in UCMJ that states that military personnel only are required to obey lawful orders. Chain of command would never allow this to happen.
re: #133 jaunte
There’s a reason that women are forming a shrinking percentage among GOP representation in Congress and the state and local levels.
As it stands right now, at the state level women comprise 29% of the 7,383 total positions, but disproportionately are Democrats by a more than 2:1 margin:
Democratic Party 1,453 - 19.6%
Republican Party 662 - 8.9%
Third Party 5
Nonpartisan (Nebraska) 14
It’s getting worse for the GOP. In 2018, the numbers were much closer: 1,148 Democrats and 705 Republican. In 2017, the numbers were similar - 1,116 Democrats and 707 Republicans. 2016 had 1,074 Democrats and 710 Republicans. The trend is bad for the GOP and getting worse, while women are asserting themselves within the Democratic party, including a breakout in 2019 (the 2018 midterms ushered in the 2019 class).
It’s a similar story in Congress. Check that - it’s so much worse:
For the 116th 2019-2021, there were 102 women. 13 are GOPers, which is 12.7% of the total and just 6.5% of the GOP representation in the House; 89 are Democrats and that makes up 37.9% of the Democratic party representation.
GOP are driving women out of the party. They’re making it clear that it’s the party of angry white guys who get to impose their bass-ackworld worldview on everyone else, consequences be damned. Women and minorities are hardest hit (because of course they are - white guys are snowflakes who have to feel better about themselves by harming everyone else to remind them of their rightful place below these guys).
I haven’t posted here in years and had to sign up with a new username, but anyway… I guess I’m tired of shaking my head in silence at all the bullshit, so I’ve returned to LGF so I don’t have to feel alone when I do it. (Now I can shake my head in unison.)
That said, my prediction is everyone enables Trump re: impeachment and everything else, he gloats about vindication, doubles down punishing the truth-tellers, keeps dragging the country closer to Germany c.1939, and the Left still doesn’t have anyone strong enough to win a three legged horse race, let alone a presidential one. The ideals are there, but not the power or charisma it will take to beat Trump in a country influenced by Fox News.
Basically, we’re fucked, I’m feeling it, and I’ve returned. Let the wild rumpus start…
re: #94 The Pie Overlord!
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I lived long enough in Pennsylvania to know that she really wants to say she loves seeing Trunp kick colored people and queers down.
re: #139 Belafon
The entire media framing of the past few elections has been click bait, ranging from the pump and dump of all the Republican candidates in 2012, to their fawning over Trump in 2016. The same has been true with every single potential change of a Senator’s position based on sources or minor statements.
re: #146 PrairieQueen
I haven’t posted here in years and had to sign up with a new username, but anyway… I guess I’m tired of shaking my head in silence at all the bullshit, so I’ve returned to LGF so I don’t have to feel alone when I do it. (Now I can shake my head in unison.)
That said, my prediction is everyone enables Trump re: impeachment and everything else, he gloats about vindication, doubles down punishing the truth-tellers, keeps dragging the country closer to Germany c.1939, and the Left still doesn’t have anyone strong enough to win a three legged horse race, let alone a presidential one. The ideals are there, but not the power or charisma it will take to beat Trump in a country influenced by Fox News.
Basically, we’re fucked, I’m feeling it, and I’ve returned. Let the wild rumpus start…
I’ve never been anyone’s first karma point. What do I win?
Important to always note that Trump didn’t just try to get “dirt on Joe Biden.” He tried to pressure a foreign country into lying about Biden, using a conspiracy theory invented by Russian intelligence. He wasn’t just asking for help investigating. It was ALL A LIE.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
re: #141 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
I’ve got a different question - if it’s a makeshift hospital, why go through the effort of building it as though it’ll be a permanent structure?
Couldn’t they build out a field hospital such as we have with MASH units and scale up to address the illness?
What are we missing here….
re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To
Mighty nice of you -thanks.
re: #146 PrairieQueen
I remember thinking, even with the wave I knew was coming, that there was no way Colin Allred was going to beat Pete Sessions in 2018.
re: #145 lawhawk
There’s a reason that women are forming a shrinking percentage among GOP representation in Congress and the state and local levels.
As it stands right now, at the state level women comprise 29% of the 7,383 total positions, but disproportionately are Democrats by a more than 2:1 margin:
Democratic Party 1,453 - 19.6%
Republican Party 662 - 8.9%
Third Party 5
Nonpartisan (Nebraska) 14It’s getting worse for the GOP. In 2018, the numbers were much closer: 1,148 Democrats and 705 Republican. In 2017, the numbers were similar - 1,116 Democrats and 707 Republicans. 2016 had 1,074 Democrats and 710 Republicans. The trend is bad for the GOP and getting worse, while women are asserting themselves within the Democratic party, including a breakout in 2019 (the 2018 midterms ushered in the 2019 class).
It’s a similar story in Congress. Check that - it’s so much worse:
For the 116th 2019-2021, there were 102 women. 13 are GOPers, which is 12.7% of the total and just 6.5% of the GOP representation in the House; 89 are Democrats and that makes up 37.9% of the Democratic party representation.GOP are driving women out of the party. They’re making it clear that it’s the party of angry white guys who get to impose their bass-ackworld worldview on everyone else, consequences be damned. Women and minorities are hardest hit (because of course they are - white guys are snowflakes who have to feel better about themselves by harming everyone else to remind them of their rightful place below these guys).
The GOP if they weren’t the bastard children of Lee Atwater could have adapted to changing demos and offered a moderate conservative agenda but their base was triggered by imo a few factors- a) nonstop propaganda by people like Limbaugh and the FNC crowd, b) an intense hate of Obama, c) general changing trends in American politics- a reaction to social liberalism.
re: #155 Charles Johnson
Anybody heard anything from teleskiguy?
I know BigPapa messaged him on Facebook.
re: #66 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips
We’re not going to need a meteor. The sheer weight of all the “stupid” on the internet is bound to crack the planet in half
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re: #153 Belafon
I remember thinking, even with the wave I knew was coming, that there was no way Colin Allred was going to beat Pete Sessions in 2018.
My greatest shock was how my district- Republican held since 1980 was called early. Granted, Weston was a great candidate but if enough of us vote, we can do this.
re: #146 PrairieQueen
I haven’t posted here in years and had to sign up with a new username, but anyway… I guess I’m tired of shaking my head in silence at all the bullshit, so I’ve returned to LGF so I don’t have to feel alone when I do it. (Now I can shake my head in unison.)
That said, my prediction is everyone enables Trump re: impeachment and everything else, he gloats about vindication, doubles down punishing the truth-tellers, keeps dragging the country closer to Germany c.1939, and the Left still doesn’t have anyone strong enough to win a three legged horse race, let alone a presidential one. The ideals are there, but not the power or charisma it will take to beat Trump in a country influenced by Fox News.
Basically, we’re fucked, I’m feeling it, and I’ve returned. Let the wild rumpus start…
I honestly feel like there’s no way one person alone could shoulder that burden. I’m not sure Obama, skillful politician and orator as he is, could survive the current environment, with or without his past leadership and successes. The problem isn’t just Fox News, it’s that the vast majority of the non-Fox news apparatus seems to take cues from Fox and such, offering the GOP infinite credulity and Dems infinite contempt, and the only time Dems ever get positive coverage is when they’re shitkicking other Dems. And “new media” only has so much reach compared to “old media” and…well…look at Facebook’s increasing fealty to the Kochs and GOP operatives.
We’re being expected to win a 100 yd dash when the GOP is allowed to start 50 yds. ahead, and we’re forced to wear bowling shoes ‘for fairness’.
re: #159 Citizen K
I honestly feel like there’s no way one person alone could shoulder that burden. I’m not sure Obama, skillful politician and orator as he is, could survive the current environment, with or without his past leadership and successes. The problem isn’t just Fox News, it’s that the vast majority of the non-Fox news apparatus seems to take cues from Fox and such, offering the GOP infinite credulity and Dems infinite contempt, and the only time Dems ever get positive coverage is when they’re shitkicking other Dems. And “new media” only has so much reach compared to “old media” and…well…look at Facebook’s increasing fealty to the Kochs and GOP operatives.
We’re being expected to win a 100 yd dash when the GOP is allowed to start 50 yds. ahead, and we’re forced to wear bowling shoes ‘for fairness’.
Then we’d all better make sure that that person isn’t doing it alone.
re: #161 Belafon
Then we’d all better make sure that that person isn’t doing it alone.
As soon as we get our nominee, I’m signing up to help.
re: #153 Belafon
Believe me, I wish anyone out there would butch up and come out swinging, but I don’t feel like Dems have anyone that can swing a vote or really rally the people like Obama did, or even close. As much as I have concerns about crazy uncle Joe, I feel like he’s the closest thing Dems have to a winner, but not close enough. Warren is probably too polarizing, what being a liberal lady and all (Fox News cannon fodder), so Joe of the old guard is probably it. And that “it” isn’t a winner. That’s a second place by a mile, especially after Trump walks next week or however soon the hearings are over.
And then I slump. How on earth did it come to this?
re: #159 Citizen K
This trial as an example, we can’t even get honest, let alone fair. The only thing that matters is they stay in power and use every scare tactic in the book to keep it.
Maybe there was always this much lying in politics, but I don’t recall it being status quo, or as successful. I knew when the Random Cap Nouns came out it was going to be a shitshow. Always the mark of the beast.
Dhaka?
//— 𝙒𝘽 𝙔𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜 🍕🐀😷 (@FormerDirtDart) January 30, 2020
As coronavirus scammers hit the web, it’s interesting to look back at “The Unethical, Dishonest Ebola Coverage of Right Wing Stalker Chuck C. Johnson.” They’re using the same tactics. https://t.co/gV8TK5MZiN pic.twitter.com/ShHjhLPRds
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 30, 2020
re: #163 PrairieQueen
Believe me, I wish anyone out there would butch up and come out swinging, but I don’t feel like Dems have anyone that can swing a vote or really rally the people like Obama did, or even close. As much as I have concerns about crazy uncle Joe, I feel like he’s the closest thing Dems have to a winner, but not close enough. Warren is probably too polarizing, what being a liberal lady and all (Fox News cannon fodder), so Joe of the old guard is probably it. And that “it” isn’t a winner. That’s a second place by a mile, especially after Trump walks next week or however soon the hearings are over.
And then I slump. How on earth did it come to this?
Re: your last question, I ask myself that daily. TBH I really feel a lot of anger with the parts of the left that rejected Clinton and dismissed her concerns about Trump because they couldn’t accept Sanders lost the 2016 primary legitimately and pushed false narratives. My faith increasingly is not in a particular ideology but rather the principles of democratic and republican rule. Though I would obviously prefer a candidate who shares more of my values.
re: #164 PrairieQueen
The difference, now, is you have Senators who do not give a damn about what the voters want. They used to be worried about things like getting voted out of office. It’s almost as if they know the fix is in.
Rand Paul is trending. Consensus on the far right seems to be that Obama’s got something on Roberts (see: ACA) and that’s why he won’t read the powderpuff’s question to the senate.
I just pinged Tele’s other sis on FB. She posted yesterday. Mom and Dad aren’t regular posters, so I’ll work my way down the line if need be.
re: #170 BigPapa
I DM’ed him on Twitter but no answer.
re: #168 plansbandc
Senators by and large have always been more useless than useful. Now the expectations are even less.
re: #171 Charles Johnson
I DM’ed him on Twitter but no answer.
I just hope it’s nothing serious and he just wanted to take a breather from this madness.
We all predicted it was just a matter of time before Donnie admits to withholding aid…
re: #163 PrairieQueen
I realize I’m not going to convince you, but I’m going to say this anyway:
One of the failures of the Obama administration wasn’t done by Obama. It was far too many people thinking that Obama could do it all. That’s why 2010 turned into what it did. That’s why 2016 happened, even though Clinton won a large popular vote.
2018 was different. A whole lot of people ran for office in places that Democrats hadn’t in a long time. A whole lot of people, especially young people, turned out to vote, and Democrat picked up a lot of House seats and saved a bunch of Senate seats, and won at the local level in ways they hadn’t in a while.
2020 can be the same. Democrats are going to have someone run for every office here in Texas, the first in a long time. We will pick a nominee, and Democrats will vote. I think a lot of Republicans aren’t going to know what hit them.
It’s not going to be easy. And we will have a lot of struggles. But I think people finally understand it’s a fight and we all have to do it.
re: #175 Belafon
And I absolutely believe a woman can win.
Yikes
Probably a good thing this is being reported after the markets closed
BREAKING: Union representing 15,000 American Airlines pilots sues company to get “temporary restraining order to immediately halt the carrier’s U.S.-China service”https://t.co/jn8limUSe7
— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) January 30, 2020
re: #164 PrairieQueen
Maybe there was always this much lying in politics, but I don’t recall it being status quo, or as successful. I knew when the Random Cap Nouns came out it was going to be a shitshow. Always the mark of the beast.
It used to be that lying in politics, like racism by your neighbors, was something people tried to not be overt about, they wanted to keep some plausible deniability.
Now, it’s just an epidemic of “saying the quiet part out loud.”
Just got off the phone with my colleague @JRuss_JRuss, who attended today’s hearing in the Lev Parnas case in SDNY.
Igor Fruman, represented by Manafort’s old lawyer Todd Blanche, claimed privileged info was being released.
The judge said it’s #HPSCI’s issue. He won’t intervene— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 30, 2020
Look out for @jruss_jruss’s full write-up soon at @CourthouseNews.
Litigation of these issues, while in the weeds, is significant.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) January 30, 2020
re: #176 Belafon
I think the right woman can win, but probably not this time around when it counts. I feel that after another Dem POTUS it would be about 300% more likely the next could be a woman. But as a Trumpbeater this time around, nope.
I’d love to be wrong. So far, all my worst fears have come to fruition, beginning before Trump was elected. Now it’s a waking nightmare, but I digress.
re: #179 Dread Pirate
Not sure what “He won’t intervene.” means in this case.
FFS
Every President equates his re-election self-interest with the public interest. It isn’t grounds for impeachment, writes The Editorial Board. https://t.co/2JKwnyrX6b
— WSJ Editorial Page (@WSJopinion) January 30, 2020
re: #116 Eclectic Cyborg
It would be something to see if Roberts made a tie breaking vote in FAVOR of having witnesses and made the GOP collectively shit their pants.
Or maybe that is just what repubs are hoping for, to take the pressure off them to have to vote for witnesses. Put it on Roberts. He doesn’t have to stand for elections and has a lifetime appointment, WTF does he have to worry about. And his legacy will not be hurt by voting for a fair trial.
re: #174 Dr. Matt
We all predicted it was just a matter of time before Donnie admits to withholding aid…
I’m inclined to think that, or maybe a deep hike off the grid. He was north of 100 days sober so that was good, but all this BS got him wound up. Just like the rest of us.
re: #182 Dr. Matt
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Is it a deprivation of due process under law for a president to prompt a foreign nation to investigate a US citizen by threatening the withholding of military aid?
— Alexander MacKenzie (@WildernessBasin) January 30, 2020
re: #183 Eventual Carrion
Or maybe that is just what repubs are hoping for, to take the pressure off them to have to vote for witnesses. Put it on Roberts. He doesn’t have to stand for elections and has a lifetime appointment, WTF does he have to worry about. And his legacy will not be hurt by voting for a fair trial.
Right and he wasn’t even appointed by Trump so he has no reason to be loyal to the Big Orange Monster.
re: #184 BigPapa
I’m inclined to think that, or maybe a deep hike off the grid. He was north of 100 days sober so that was good, but all this BS got him wound up. Just like the rest of us.
I think you meant that for me. We’re both FB friends with him albeit I’ve never really talked to him there. But yeah I definitely thought about his sobriety too. This has been definitely testing my mind too. I’m not in recovery but I’m familiar with the process.
re: #186 Dread Pirate
I can’t believe we literally have a Republican senator asking, in writing, “Is it legit for the US president to be a corrupt POS?”
re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg
Thing is, even if Bolton was to testify, even if he spelled it out in Sharpie that Trump withheld aid as a quid pro quo agreement, had it on audio tape, had absolute proof Trump did it, will it matter? That’s the part I find beyond comprehension. Once upon a time all this truth stuff still mattered.
By comparison, anything Nixon or Clinton did is laughable. Anymore, that’s baby stuff.
Before I saw Citizen K here in DC, I went to Fords Theater. I’ll be honest. I nearly wept hearing Presidents Bush, Clinton, & Carter recite the Gettysburg Address. It’s an experience you all should do if you’re in Washington. There are no ifs about it. The CSA was devised to preserve slavery and John Wilkes Booth was a terrorist.
re: #183 Eventual Carrion
Or maybe that is just what repubs are hoping for, to take the pressure off them to have to vote for witnesses. Put it on Roberts. He doesn’t have to stand for elections and has a lifetime appointment, WTF does he have to worry about. And his legacy will not be hurt by voting for a fair trial.
Let’s be real. If Roberts is a deciding vote in favor of witnesses, there’s a good chance he’ll have to spend the rest of his life in hiding from redcap terrorists.
That’s also why it will be very interesting to see how he votes on the inevitable challenge to Roe v. Wade — GOP political machinations suggest keeping Roe alive (but continuing with Kennedy’s death of a thousand cuts), but he may not want to spend the rest of his life under mortal threat.
re: #190 PrairieQueen
Even if it doesn’t ultimately change the outcome, I’d still rather have witnesses for several reasons:
1) Guarantees trial goes past SOTU and pisses off Trump
2) Guarantees we’re going to hear a lot of interesting shit that will ALSO piss off Trump
3) Gives the Democrats even more ammunition for election time
4) Forces GOP senators to have to pretzel themselves even harder to justify an acquittal vote.
The number of soldiers injured in the Iran reprisal rises to 64.
That’s after days of claiming no Americans were injured and then Trump claiming that it’s minor and not a problem if they have headaches.
Trump doesn’t give a crap about the troops; he sees them as backdrop. https://t.co/JvdqPCylYY— lawhawk (@lawhawk) January 30, 2020
re: #191 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
Before I saw Citizen K here in DC, I went to Fords Theater. I’ll be honest. I nearly wept hearing Presidents Bush, Clinton, & Carter recite the Gettysburg Address. It’s an experience you all should do if you’re in Washington. There are no ifs about it. The CSA was devised to preserve slavery and John Wilkes Booth was a terrorist.
I had to look up the film you were talking about because I got extremely confused…
re: #195 Citizen K
I had to look up the film you were talking about because I got extremely confused…
Haha sorry. Anyhow very good film. I definitely see a lot of Putin’s influence in Trump.
re: #189 EPR-radar
I can’t believe we literally have a Republican senator asking, in writing, “Is it legit for the US president to be a corrupt POS?”
which is worse?
knowing the answer but asking as posture to set up a future vote
or
actually not knowing the answer at all
re: #190 PrairieQueen
Thing is, even if Bolton was to testify, even if he spelled it out in Sharpie that Trump withheld aid as a quid pro quo agreement, had it on audio tape, had absolute proof Trump did it, will it matter? That’s the part I find beyond comprehension. Once upon a time all this truth stuff still mattered.
By comparison, anything Nixon or Clinton did is laughable. Anymore, that’s baby stuff.
welcome / welcome back
it will matter in that it will make voting to ‘acquit’ that much more transparently craven
re: #193 Eclectic Cyborg
I agree. But you know what? They will. They absolutely will contort themselves and justify it. They won’t even contort though, because it really is what they are deep down under their skin in all the little parts that matter.
And you wonder when you’re out in public, in line, or sitting next to somebody, are they the kind of person who thinks this is normal and okay and probably has Fuck you SNOWflake crap on their FB page? Honestly, this is what my neighbors have become. This is what casual acquaintances have become. This is what at least 50% of the people I happen to encounter are.
And they’re going to celebrate this like Christ’s Second Coming. You know when Trump gets pissed off and misspells 100+ tweets a day, these are his cheerleaders.
There has to be a way to make this sting more and leverage it.
re: #5 GlutenFreeJesus
I haven’t watched any of this shit show on tv. Until now when I just happened to come home. Turned on the TV and here’s Adam Schiff speaking truth to power.
Saw that too. I’m so proud of Schiff and the other House Managers who have so powerfully argued their cases damning Trump’s unconstitutional behavior.
re: #199 PrairieQueen
I agree. But you know what? They will. They absolutely will contort themselves and justify it. They won’t even contort though, because it really is what they are deep down under their skin in all the little parts that matter.
And you wonder when you’re out in public, in line, or sitting next to somebody, are they the kind of person who thinks this is normal and okay and probably has Fuck you SNOWflake crap on their FB page? Honestly, this is what my neighbors have become. This is what casual acquaintances have become. This is what at least 50% of the people I happen to encounter are.
And they’re going to celebrate this like Christ’s Second Coming. You know when Trump gets pissed off and misspells 100+ tweets a day, these are his cheerleaders.
There has to be a way to make this sting more and leverage it.
the strongest leverage we have right now is to vote
we an also participate in registration drives, postcards (what I do), and become active in the local D party.
and i wouldnt bet against nancy pelosi having a backup plan for the next few months, because she, like everyone else has always known there would be no vote to remove.
re: #190 PrairieQueen
Watch out that you don’t move the goal posts. The probability that Trump was going to be convicted by the Senate run by McConnell was pretty low (to tell you the truth, I doubt Nixon would have been forced to resign had Republicans been in charge of Congress back then). He’s been impeached, and people are seeing how willing the GOP is to throw away the constitution to maintain power.
re: #201 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
I think Pelosi’s bigger plan, knowing Trump would suffer no consequences, was to mobilize voters. As sharp as she is, and she is, I don’t believe there’s a card up or amagic bullet her sleeve. I think that was her backup plan all along, hoping enough people would be outraged enough to vote for otherwise un-electable candidates.
Yet again.
Trump’s lawyer caught with his pants down… and no briefs.
Professor Nikolas Bowie cited by Alan Dershowitz: Dershowitz is wrong https://t.co/qwD0bLdf3P— Richard W. Painter (@RWPUSA) January 30, 2020
The Repugs can get Trump acquitted—-there’s no doubt of that. They will also celebrate like they just won the World Series and the Super Bowl combined. It will be nauseating, but it will cost them the election and quite possibly the senate. Then it’s payback time.
Charlie Pierce: Joe Biden’s Big Advantage in Iowa Is the Old Shoe Factor People know the former vice president. They’re comfortable with him. They’ve seen him before.
If I really believed [Dershowitz’s crap yesterday], then I wouldn’t trust any of my fellow human beings with that kind of power, and that includes any of the Democratic candidates now traipsing through the gray and lonely Iowa winter. Instead, I’d be advocating to eliminate the office of president* entirely, since it clearly is an inherent danger to self-government.
…
It is a very strange, dead-level time in the campaign, especially considering we are deep in the homestretch of the first signifying votes that will be cast. Three of the most prominent candidates remaining—Bernie Sanders, Amy Klobuchar, and Senator Professor Warren—are stuck in Washington as jurors in the puppet-show trial of a renegade president*. Consequently, Biden has the state almost all to himself; Pete Buttigieg’s campaign is almost audibly losing air here.
…
… I spent a week in Washington watching the third-rate remoras of this presidency* rewrite the Constitution in order to keep him in power. And there are people who slept out overnight on the chilly sidewalks of Des Moines for a chance to hear the president* deal out the same virulent heresies in person. He is the chief executive of a country I don’t recognize anymore.
re: #208 retired cynic
We don’t recognize that country because it’s been about 100 years since whites’ power was threatened like it is now. Unlike back then, though, they can’t just accept new people as white at go back to the way things were.
One final thing before heading home: The GOP is counting on people getting so depressed that they give up.
“Now Judge, Judge I got debts no honest man could pay
The bank was holdin’ my mortgage and they was takin’ my house away
Now I ain’t sayin’ that makes me an innocent man
But it was more ‘n all this that put that gun in my hand”
- Johnny 99
Mixed motive, not guilty
- Dershowitz https://t.co/2YjmkdxLWq— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) January 30, 2020
Trump is a champ at “opposite speak” Everything he says is the opposite of what it really is.
US farm bankruptcies jumped 20 percent in 2019 despite federal aid for those affected by Trump trade war https://t.co/zpIX9qd28T
— Jeffrey Guterman (@JeffreyGuterman) January 30, 2020
re: #212 The Pie Overlord!
Trump is a champ at “opposite speak” Everything he says is the opposite of what it really is.
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PRESIDENT REPLACES GOOD TRADE DEAL WITH SHITTY ONE, FILM AT 11
driftglass: So I’m In Twitter Jail Again
… for telling Brit Hume: “You Republican traitors all need to hang together, lest you all hang separately.”
Twitter taking their oversight seriously, I see.
re: #212 The Pie Overlord!
Trump is a champ at “opposite speak” Everything he says is the opposite of what it really is.
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Excerpts of Trump’s prepared speech on the USMCA signing call it the largest trade deal of all time. It is very much not. Aside from GATT/WTO rounds, and aside from this deal being an incremental change to NAFTA, the TPP included all three of these countries + nine others.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 29, 2020
re: #211 gocart mozart
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Jay-sus fuck. One was carrying out stated administration policy. The other wasn’t. Goddammit. No wonder Dersh isn’t invited to the parties. He is a grade A moron.
FFS
Trump says he might deploy some F-35s to a local air base, saying workers here will see them come in. He says, “Actually they’re totally stealth, so maybe you won’t see them come in. You won’t see them come in.”
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 30, 2020
re: #217 Dr. Matt
FFS
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Trump tells Michigan workers: “We won 196 to nothing on a little vote a couple of weeks ago.” He’s talking about impeachment votes he *lost* but where Republicans were unanimously on his side.
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 30, 2020
IMPORTANT: So the CBP lied when they said there was no directive to profile people at the border. Looks like there is indeed a directive asking officers to profile people based on their national origin (Iranian, Lebanese, Palestinian) and their religion and sect (Shia). pic.twitter.com/RP7SipnY8A
— Negar Mortazavi نگار مرتضوی (@NegarMortazavi) January 30, 2020
TTRT - Tactical Terrorism Response Teams
TAU - Tactical Analytical Unit
CTR - (a counterterrorism checklist)
Source provides directive telling CBP officers to detain Iranian-born travelers
ACLU - A Secret CBP Team is Targeting and Detaining Innocent Travelers. We’re Suing.
re: #220 Dread Pirate
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Source provides directive telling CBP officers to detain Iranian-born travelers
ACLU - A Secret CBP Team is Targeting and Detaining Innocent Travelers. We’re Suing.
I had a couple Iranian-American clients when I was a paralegal. This all makes me so angry. A lot of Iranian-Americans still visit Iran because of family connections.
re: #221 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
He still doesn’t understand stealth technology I see.
The fat fuck has trouble flushing the toilet.
re: #222 retired cynic
More driftglass: Loyalty to Il Douche is Treason to America
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Ah Bishop Hannitus is there.
re: #216 Mike Lamb
Jay-sus fuck. One was carrying out stated administration policy. The other wasn’t. Goddammit. No wonder Dersh isn’t invited to the parties. He is a grade A moron.
Dersh is not a moron. He is a lying unprincipled sleazebag who distorts every argument in favor of his client; he has no loyalty to anything other than winning — and he is deliberately and maliciously promoting the notion that Biden is corrupt — that there is no ethical difference between Biden and Trump. He is evil.
I will protest, work for our candidates, vote like I have every national election since I was 18.
It’s like I told my dude when we knew dubya would win. I want to be on record “saying” I do NOT support this criminal.
Michigan Football Coach Suspended Because He Wanted To Have Dinner, Drinks With Actual Hitler (Goes to Wonkette)
This guy had about the shortest job as a football coach. Three days after he was hired, the editor of the university’s student newspaper asked one of those very softball questions people get asked: “If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be?”
His answer was Adolph Hitler. He then explained why. That did not go well.
Berger also included John F. Kennedy and Christopher Columbus at his historical figure dinner party. Poor JFK got stuck at a genocidal sausage fest. Couldn’t Berger at least invite Lucrezia Borgia and the Countess Elizabeth Bathory to round things out? Berger’s obviously never thrown a successful dinner party.
Wonkette takes apart his answer as printed in the student newspaper at the university. Stephen Robinson is righteously angry in the article.
re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter
Dersh is not a moron. He is a lying unprincipled sleazebag who distorts every argument in favor of his client; he has no loyalty to anything other than winning — and he is deliberately and maliciously promoting the notion that Biden is corrupt — that there is no ethical difference between Biden and Trump. He is evil.
And if I had any trouble believing that, I could always look at his behavior in other arenas. E.g. “I’m no pedophile, I kept my underwear on!”
We are in Kafkaland.
Congress can’t enforce subpoenas because they should go through the courts.
The courts can’t enforce Congressional subpoenas because Congress should impeach.#KafkaLives https://t.co/4NdD8dOgrL— DCPetterson (@dcpetterson) January 30, 2020
re: #231 goddamnedfrank
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re: #230 Jebediah, RBG
And if I had any trouble believing that, I could always look at his behavior in other arenas. E.g. “I’m no pedophile, I kept my underwear on!”
Moron or not, Dershowitz is making arguments for morons.
President’s counsel apparently also has no idea who is making an undisclosed present to President Trump of hundreds of thousands of dollars of legal fees and travel expenses for Rudy Giuliani to plot in Ukraine.
— David Frum (@davidfrum) January 30, 2020
re: #146 PrairieQueen
I haven’t posted here in years and had to sign up with a new username, but anyway… I guess I’m tired of shaking my head in silence at all the bullshit, so I’ve returned to LGF so I don’t have to feel alone when I do it. (Now I can shake my head in unison.)
Hi! Welcome back. Have we ever met before? Did you bring rum?
re: #236 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)
I’d love to know who or what is funding this too.
Gotta be the Russians.
re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg
Gotta be the Russians.
Probably but they could be Americans: Peter Thiel, the Mercers, the Koch Bros, the DeVos family — none of whom have any loyalty to this nation but who do have the financial resources and will to fund this treasonous activity.
re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter
Dersh is not a moron. He is a lying unprincipled sleazebag who distorts every argument in favor of his client; he has no loyalty to anything other than winning — and he is deliberately and maliciously promoting the notion that Biden is corrupt — that there is no ethical difference between Biden and Trump. He is evil.
I saw a couple of tweets by former students who said Dersh essentially comes down to “it’s the lawyer’s responsibility to advocate for the client up to just before the point of breaking the law.”
re: #240 Barefoot Grin
I saw a couple of tweets by former students who said Dersh essentially comes down to “it’s the lawyer’s responsibility to advocate for the client up to just before the point of breaking the law.”
I.e., the kind of lawyer that gives the whole profession a bad reputation.
re: #231 goddamnedfrank
Congress can’t enforce subpoenas because they should go through the courts.
The courts can’t enforce Congressional subpoenas because Congress should impeach.
Let’s complete the circle:
Congress can’t subpoena witnesses during impeachment inquiry and must wait for trial.
Congress can’t subpoena witnesses during the impeachment trial that they didn’t interview during the inquiry.
re: #198 Dangerman (slowly converting a pool into a pond)
it will matter in that it will make voting to ‘acquit’ that much more transparently craven
Sen. Sasse here is already in a tough spot. He’s being primaried from the right (the only way you can do it) by a Trump-worshipping businessman who is attacking him for his so-called never Trump stance during the 2016 primaries.
The Democrats here are going after him for being a weathervane who is helping Trump destroy the two largest industries in this state, agriculture and tourism.
In the 2018 blue wave, Democrats swept a huge number of offices where the party hasn’t run in decades.
re: #145 lawhawk
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Democratic Party 1,453 - 19.6%
Republican Party 662 - 8.9%
Third Party 5
Nonpartisan (Nebraska) 14
That fourteen women here is a record. There were two when the ERA was ratified here in the Seventies.
Moreover, non-partisan in Nebraska means party affiliation isn’t put on ballots. (The only place where it is, is federal candidates, which makes researching affiliations difficult for local offices).
Of those fourteen women, nearly all are affiliated with the Democratic Party, and one is affiliated with the Libertarian Party (she switched after Trump was elected from the Republicans).
re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🎃
If I could have dinner with Hitler I sure as hell would. As long as we’re in the land of make believe horseshit that requires a time machine and is as pointless to discuss as how I’m going to spend my lottery winnings, I’ll add that my intentions for dinner were only for the opportunity to murder him in the most epic Tarantino fashion imaginable: Kill Bill I, 2, 3 and Inglorious Basterds all rolled in one.
It certainly would have nothing to do with admiration, or even if he happened to be a personable dinner companion.
And that would be my book report for Why Would You Like to Have Dinner With Hitler?.
re: #146 PrairieQueen
I haven’t posted here in years and had to sign up with a new username, but anyway… I guess I’m tired of shaking my head in silence at all the bullshit, so I’ve returned to LGF so I don’t have to feel alone when I do it. (Now I can shake my head in unison.)
That said, my prediction is everyone enables Trump re: impeachment and everything else, he gloats about vindication, doubles down punishing the truth-tellers, keeps dragging the country closer to Germany c.1939, and the Left still doesn’t have anyone strong enough to win a three legged horse race, let alone a presidential one. The ideals are there, but not the power or charisma it will take to beat Trump in a country influenced by Fox News.
Basically, we’re fucked, I’m feeling it, and I’ve returned. Let the wild rumpus start…
Welcome back.
re: #229 Anymouse 🌹🎃
Michigan Football Coach Suspended Because He Wanted To Have Dinner, Drinks With Actual Hitler (Goes to Wonkette)
This guy had about the shortest job as a football coach. Three days after he was hired, the editor of the university’s student newspaper asked one of those very softball questions people get asked: “If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be?”
His answer was Adolph Hitler. He then explained why. That did not go well.
Wonkette takes apart his answer as printed in the student newspaper at the university. Stephen Robinson is righteously angry in the article.
The only time I would have dinner with Hitler is if I did the Little Nicky Thing Shoving A Big Fucking Pineapple Up His Ass!
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