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Charles Johnson  May 26, 2021 • 6:20:09pm
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Jason Munro  May 26, 2021 • 6:21:36pm

Sorry for the immediate OT and not sure how I ended up on this but what an amazing photo from 1970 Vietnam worth sharing:

Image: vietnam-war-images-from-vietnamese-photographers+%252813%2529.jpg

The citation reads:
A victim of American bombing, ethnic Cambodian guerrilla Danh Son Huol is carried to an improvised operating room in a mangrove swamp on the Ca Mau Peninsula. This scene was an actual medical situation, not a publicity setup. The photographer, however, considered the image unexceptional and never printed it. 1970. (Photo by Vo Anh Khanh).

It was part of this article: rarehistoricalphotos.com

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danarchy  May 26, 2021 • 6:31:12pm

OMG! The covid vaccine causes strokes!!

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msn.com

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wrenchwench  May 26, 2021 • 6:32:33pm

Works for Wednesday, too.

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Charles Johnson  May 26, 2021 • 6:37:09pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 6:38:20pm
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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 6:39:58pm

re: #6 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Resting Douchebag Face.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 26, 2021 • 6:41:06pm
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plansbandc  May 26, 2021 • 6:41:30pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I don’t think you’re right about that. :D :D

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Charles Johnson  May 26, 2021 • 6:41:52pm

re: #8 Eric The Fruit Bat

Tell me about it.

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A Mom Anon  May 26, 2021 • 6:42:20pm

re: #7 jaunte

He was posing for his mug shot. Maybe he can use it on a dating app or social media. That pic shows he thinks he was right and nothing is going to happen to him. Or that Trump is coming to pardon him.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 6:45:07pm
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Belafon  May 26, 2021 • 6:48:36pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

I’m sure now they’ll keep her away based on her attitude.

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JOE 🥓  May 26, 2021 • 6:49:17pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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So when is she going to run for Congress?

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Belafon  May 26, 2021 • 6:49:23pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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darthstar  May 26, 2021 • 6:51:01pm
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plansbandc  May 26, 2021 • 6:52:21pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Karen wants some more attention.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 6:58:00pm

re: #17 plansbandc

Karen wants some more attention.

Speaking of Karen…
She’d like to speak with the manager

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plansbandc  May 26, 2021 • 6:59:47pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Of the WHOLE FUCKING AIRPORT!!!

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:00:47pm

She needs the Marshal of the Jetway.

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JOE 🥓  May 26, 2021 • 7:07:32pm

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Speaking of Karen…
She’d like to speak with the manager

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Gee that’s a real shame!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 26, 2021 • 7:10:39pm

With all of these incidents happening on flights I’m really surprised that we’re not seeing Air Marshals being brought back.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 7:11:03pm
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wrenchwench  May 26, 2021 • 7:11:48pm

My twitter feed has gotten out of hand.

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:14:30pm

re: #24 wrenchwench

It’s just an ongoing transmedia gesamtkunstwerk.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 7:17:33pm

re: #22 Eric The Fruit Bat

With all of these incidents happening on flights I’m really surprised that we’re not seeing Air Marshals being brought back.

Air Marshals never went away

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 26, 2021 • 7:26:07pm

re: #26 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Air Marshals never went away

They don’t seem to be used on domestic flights, otherwise we should have heard that some of them were present on flights where incidents occurred.

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mmmirele  May 26, 2021 • 7:28:18pm

The neighbors! I park in front of this particular house off 86th Street most of the time. A few times I have parked down at the city park, but it’s a longer walk. I really don’t want to be a pain in the ass for the neighbors. That said, when I parked today, the woman (Kim) who lives in this house across 86th from the church came out and said I was welcome to park there any time I liked.

There was also a couple who gave me a thumbs’ up as they drove by, then came back out with their frantic (but who calmed down) German Shepherd puppy. I had a nice chat with them on the east (church) side of 86th St., then crossed the street to talk to Kim and her son. Her son wanted to read my signs.

I learned from the neighbors that the church is loud on Wednesday night, Saturday night and Sundays. The parking is abysmal. A third neighbor I have not met calls the cops on the church every week, I was told. The neighbors have done their research and they know who Mark Driscoll is, but they’re not up on the latest.

The *stalkeriffic* part was when the intern that they send out to wave the “Honk if you love Jesus” sign saw me talking to these four people on the west side of 86th St. (not the church side) and was waving his sign. Unfortunately I didn’t get a good picture. *shrug* I got some audio of me talking about it. But seriously, it was stalkeriffic.

Anyway, this was probably the best day I had this week, even if I did have to get a physical beforehand and get scheduled for a “well woman exam,” a mammogram and a bone density test. Blargh.

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No Malarkey!  May 26, 2021 • 7:30:40pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

No there isn’t.///

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No Malarkey!  May 26, 2021 • 7:32:17pm

re: #8 Eric The Fruit Bat

CNN should replace frothy mix with Walsh.

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:33:08pm

Seth Meyers’ piece reminded me of how nice it is that Joe Biden doesn’t take questions while yelling over a helicopter engine.

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:33:39pm

Sometimes it’s the little things.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 26, 2021 • 7:36:29pm

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:38:37pm
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gocart mozart  May 26, 2021 • 7:40:57pm

That’s a Godwin Law violation right there dude. I’m gonna have to call foul.

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No Malarkey!  May 26, 2021 • 7:42:02pm

re: #34 jaunte

It makes me nauseous that Republicans want to hurt their own constituents. We are in a low simmering civil war with fascists.

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:44:00pm

re: #36 No Malarkey!

That line about cold dead fingers was about their power.

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JOE 🥓  May 26, 2021 • 7:44:31pm

re: #33 The Pie Overlord!

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 7:55:54pm
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teleskiguy  May 26, 2021 • 7:55:58pm

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sagehen  May 26, 2021 • 8:02:20pm

re: #23 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

was that a poll of everyone, or just R’s?

‘Cause if it was up to me, I’d vote for HW.

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JC1  May 26, 2021 • 8:11:36pm

re: #41 sagehen

was that a poll of everyone, or just R’s?

‘Cause if it was up to me, I’d vote for HW.

Among Republicans. Yeah, HW was okay. He should have talked his son out of running though.

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gocart mozart  May 26, 2021 • 8:22:13pm
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gocart mozart  May 26, 2021 • 8:24:01pm
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gwangung  May 26, 2021 • 8:28:40pm
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teleskiguy  May 26, 2021 • 8:29:28pm

Went and got a few more LPs from my pops. In the last few days I’ve spun John Coltrane, Vangelis, Jethro Tull, The Band, Mussorgsky, Grand Funk Railroad, and The Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

There’s something about listening to old records.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2021 • 8:37:12pm

re: #12 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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White privilege is suing your employer for firing you after you committed a blatantly racist act…simply because you’re white.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2021 • 8:43:45pm

re: #45 gwangung

There have to be sufficient charging stations on the road to handle all the new EV and the time for charging has to be drastically reduced in order for these vehicles to make true inroads on traditional vehicles or hybrids.

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jaunte  May 26, 2021 • 8:47:37pm

And we’re off.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 26, 2021 • 8:53:08pm

re: #48 Hecuba’s daughter

There have to be sufficient charging stations on the road to handle all the new EV and the time for charging has to be drastically reduced in order for these vehicles to make true inroads on traditional vehicles or hybrids.

Oh and a grid that can handle it. Also enough clean power generation that’s not ridiculously expensive. There’s an A-B-C-and-D to this to make it work. Everyone seems to only care about A and sometimes B.

Also, changing Joe Average’s commute to all electric is only a small percentage of emissions. They could have left cars, suvs, and light trucks as is since the 90s and focused on dealing with emissions caused by shipping/freight, air transportation, those god awful floating polluting petri dishes (cruise ships), manufacturing, and of course, power generation and we would be way better off.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2021 • 8:55:12pm

re: #49 jaunte

And we’re off.

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This particular instance doesn’t seem to be associated with the new open carry legislation but just reflects the traditional widespread gun ownership in Texas (and throughout the country). The man involved apparently was in his home.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 26, 2021 • 8:59:35pm

re: #50 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Oh and a grid that can handle it. Also enough clean power generation that’s not ridiculously expensive. There’s an A-B-C-and-D to this to make it work. Everyone seems to only care about A and sometimes B.

Also, changing Joe Average’s commute to all electric is only a small percentage of emissions. They could have left cars, suvs, and light trucks as is since the 90s and focused on dealing with emissions caused by shipping/freight, air transportation, those god awful floating polluting petri dishes (cruise ships), manufacturing, and of course, power generation and we would be way better off.

Although highly controversial, nuclear power would be one way to handle this, especially if we can improve handling of nuclear waste.

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JOE 🥓  May 26, 2021 • 9:05:17pm

Getting anxious to see if the corrupted court will kill the Affordable Care Act…

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teleskiguy  May 26, 2021 • 9:07:45pm
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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 26, 2021 • 9:08:35pm

re: #52 Hecuba’s daughter

Although highly controversial, nuclear power would be one way to handle this, especially if we can improve handling of nuclear waste.

Advocated by me. Truly the only way to fix this without talking everyone involved into creating a worldwide smart grid and setting up 2 or 3 50-100sq km solar array fields in the deserts on every continent.

I don’t see how we are going to get around all the misguided anti-nuclear people to do this. Gen IV and newer reactors have none of the problems old one have but everyone thinks we want to setup 100s of Chernobyls or Fukushima Daiichis. Doesn’t matter how many times we debunk it. This is one of the things where “the left” is just as bad as the right when it comes to disinformation.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 26, 2021 • 9:13:25pm
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Jason Munro  May 26, 2021 • 9:22:48pm

re: #55 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

My understanding from working in power trading (buying/selling virtual electricity which I know sounds weird but is a thing) is that nuclear nodes are impressively more stable and consistent on the grid than pretty much anything else. So much so they basically become a non-factor when it comes to volatility calculations.

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Sherlock Hound  May 26, 2021 • 9:25:43pm

re: #45 gwangung

There’s a lot of talk in Boston about electric commuter rail. Usually the Republicans in Massachusetts stomp on that because Taxes. But it’s not going away. Best part is that the rail line in MY town is prioritized for electrification! The train is a very meaningful and important part of my town’s culture. If we don’t get behind this, we’re stupid.

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Sherlock Hound  May 26, 2021 • 9:27:39pm

re: #55 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Advocated by me. Truly the only way to fix this without talking everyone involved into creating a worldwide smart grid and setting up 2 or 3 50-100sq km solar array fields in the deserts on every continent.

I don’t see how we are going to get around all the misguided anti-nuclear people to do this. Gen IV and newer reactors have none of the problems old one have but everyone thinks we want to setup 100s of Chernobyls or Fukushima Daiichis. Doesn’t matter how many times we debunk it. This is one of the things where “the left” is just as bad as the right when it comes to disinformation.

Amen to that.

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Belafon  May 26, 2021 • 9:33:36pm

re: #48 Hecuba’s daughter

A 230 mile charge, the distance on the smaller model F150, whill get me to and from work for four days without me having to do another charge. I could trickle charge it every evening no problem. Even when I’m driving all over the place, I wouldn’t come close to using 200 miles.

200+ miles will cover 80% of driving in the US without any issues. Now, I couldn’t take from Texas to Kentucky like we are planning next week, but I wouldn’t mind doing that on a train if we could get those in place.

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Jason Munro  May 26, 2021 • 9:36:17pm

re: #58 Sherlock Hound

I hope the upgrades happen. I grew up in rural Mass and when we went to Boston we drove to the nearest T station and did the park and ride thing - it was awesome :)

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JOE 🥓  May 26, 2021 • 9:36:28pm

re: #60 Belafon

A 230 mile charge, the distance on the smaller model F150, whill get me to and from work for four days without me having to do another charge. I could trickle charge it every evening no problem. Even when I’m driving all over the place, I wouldn’t come close to using 200 miles.

200+ miles will cover 80% of driving in the US without any issues. Now, I couldn’t take from Texas to Kentucky like we are planning next week, but I wouldn’t mind doing that on a train if we could get those in place.

On my bucket list is to ride Amtrak around the US and ride ViaRail’s Canadian across Canada.

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austin_blue  May 26, 2021 • 9:40:05pm

re: #60 Belafon

A 230 mile charge, the distance on the smaller model F150, whill get me to and from work for four days without me having to do another charge. I could trickle charge it every evening no problem. Even when I’m driving all over the place, I wouldn’t come close to using 200 miles.

200+ miles will cover 80% of driving in the US without any issues. Now, I couldn’t take from Texas to Kentucky like we are planning next week, but I wouldn’t mind doing that on a train if we could get those in place.

Putting together a modern multi-modal transportation system has *got* to be based on electricity. The UK has already achieved it it except for the Last Mile component, which is based on gasoline powered single and double-decker buses.

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Belafon  May 26, 2021 • 9:40:22pm

epa.gov

2018 numbers:

Emissions by sector:

Emissions by transportation source:

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danarchy  May 26, 2021 • 9:41:25pm

re: #58 Sherlock Hound

There’s a lot of talk in Boston about electric commuter rail. Usually the Republicans in Massachusetts stomp on that because Taxes. But it’s not going away. Best part is that the rail line in MY town is prioritized for electrification! The train is a very meaningful and important part of my town’s culture. If we don’t get behind this, we’re stupid.

Republicans in Massachusetts are not capable of stomping on anything. They may make a lot of noise but even with a republican governor the legislature can override any veto they choose.

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stpaulbear  May 26, 2021 • 9:55:33pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Went and got a few more LPs from my pops. In the last few days I’ve spun John Coltrane, Vangelis, Jethro Tull, The Band, Mussorgsky, Grand Funk Railroad, and The Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

There’s something about listening to old records.

Congrats! My nephew caught the vinyl bug about a year ago and I’ve had it for about 55 years. 2500 albums here which ain’t a lot by collectors standards.

When you go to Ikea to buy Kallax shelving, you know you’re hooked.

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gocart mozart  May 26, 2021 • 10:12:30pm

Found an actual Nazi. Please report.

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darthstar  May 26, 2021 • 10:22:25pm

Feeling cynical. Time for bed.
Shitty drive by post, I know. Got bad news about a close friend. Still processing. Love that fucker.

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gocart mozart  May 26, 2021 • 10:25:56pm

Here’s a good laugh before you go to bed.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  May 26, 2021 • 10:27:57pm

re: #68 darthstar

Feeling cynical. Time for bed.
Shitty drive by post, I know. Got bad news about a close friend. Still processing. Love that fucker.

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His implication that one has to do with the other or they are mutually exclusive is borderline insulting.

Especially since the latter can actually done for peanuts, like… today… but requires political will.

EDIT: I mean the former… the solving hunger one.

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2021 • 10:35:27pm

re: #68 darthstar

Feeling cynical. Time for bed.
Shitty drive by post, I know. Got bad news about a close friend. Still processing. Love that fucker.

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“Alright, we’ve put off colonizing Mars until we can get hunger and poverty under control. Now, what’s your plan?”

“Plan? I never said I had a plan, I just wanted to be a contrarian asshole.”

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Targetpractice  May 26, 2021 • 11:05:15pm

I hate to break it to Reich, but not only are poverty and hunger likely to remain problems for the foreseeable future, but they’re only going to grow as the global economy embraces automation more and more with each passing year. If anything, colonizing new worlds would likely do for Earth of the 21st century what colonizing new lands did in centuries past: Create jobs and opportunities for people who cannot find either in their native lands.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2021 • 12:02:45am

re: #68 darthstar

re: #72 Targetpractice

Reich’s claim is an old one, heard since the beginning of space exploration.

The idea that spending money on big ticket items wrt that are off of Earth somehow is negative to helping people on Earth is just false.

All the money spent to do with anything about Mars is spent on Earth. That creates jobs. Creating jobs is itself a way to address poverty. Billions of dollars in regards to Mars exploration is spent in local economies (ok, mostly in CA, TX, FL, and MD) emplying thousands and thousands of people directly, and probably many more as those in the industry spend their earnings locally.

Creating jobs that accomplish big things is, AFAIK, one of the principal means of helping people that a government can do.

And for what it’s worth, we will not colonize Mars. Humans cannot live on Mars without massive expenditures of resources, and the only reason such an endeavor enters into discussions is because we humans are curious animals and, frankly, we need to look for things to do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 12:11:10am

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reich’s claim is an old one, heard since the beginning of space exploration.

The idea that spending money on big ticket items wrt that are off of Earth somehow is negative to helping people on Earth is just false.

All the money spent to do with anything about Mars is spent on Earth…

As long as we have met some basic standards, like feeding and housing everyone who needs it, I am all for investment in space exploration.

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Targetpractice  May 27, 2021 • 12:29:58am

Reich’s is the sort of argument I’m sure he’s met with disgust when used to attack some effort he supports at the national or international level. You hear variations of it from wingnuts all the time: “WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY TO HELP [insert foreign locale] WHEN WE COULD USE THAT MONEY HERE!?!” Hell, it’s the entire basis for the long-running fallacy that the US could save so much money from the federal deficit if we just ended foreign aid.

The argument is itself a fallacy, the idea that problems as nebulous as poverty or hunger could be solved if you just threw more money at them. But then you actually begin to haul them into focus and realize that there are roadblocks that either can’t be easily overcome with more money or are impassable short of major social and economic changes. I mean we could just adopt something like “Basic Assistance” from The Expanse, giving every person access to free food, clothing, and shelter, but then what?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 12:42:51am

re: #70 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

His implication that one has to do with the other or they are mutually exclusive is borderline insulting.

Especially since the latter can actually done for peanuts, like… today… but requires political will.

EDIT: I mean the former… the solving hunger one.

There was a famous quote from a German leftist politician in response to people who complained that Germany had money to take in nearly a million Syrian refugees but not enough to take care of its own homeless.

To which he replied “Even without refugees, there still would not be enough money for the homeless!”

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 1:09:29am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2021 • 1:31:40am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2021 • 1:36:19am

On topic for tonight, two videos from Wednesday evening:

First, from the Silicon Valley Astronomy club:

A Little Talk About Aliens

Second, from Caltech:

Is There Life Beyond Earth? / Seminar Day, Session IV



..

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Patricia Kayden  May 27, 2021 • 2:49:17am

re: #18 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Can you imagine how many times I’d be tasered or beaten if my Black behind behaved like that? She is so entitled!

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Patricia Kayden  May 27, 2021 • 3:12:48am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 3:58:28am

re: #71 Targetpractice

“Alright, we’ve put off colonizing Mars until we can get hunger and poverty under control. Now, what’s your plan?”

“Plan? I never said I had a plan, I just wanted to be a contrarian asshole.”

“Homeless vets” is one of the favourite go-tos of the contrarian. The righeeous asshat might say “when did we see one of you?”

Hey, asshat, when I was hungry, you were cutting soup kitchens. When I needed shelter, you were a NIMBY asshat fighting those and saying “get a job” and tried to jail me for being indigent. When I was thirsty, you were an asshat who closed public water fountains and bathrooms. When I was sick, you asshats tried to cut the budget for veterans health care or privatise it.

Matthew 25, the Asshat Version, if Jesus was talking to Christians today.

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Ming5000  May 27, 2021 • 4:00:25am

I am already tired of seeing Ted Cruz eat a fly.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 4:18:28am

re: #77 Teukka

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 4:28:18am

re: #81 Patricia Kayden

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Dopamine Fish  May 27, 2021 • 4:28:58am

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Who are we to kink shame?///

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 4:33:36am

re: #86 Dopamine Fish

Who are we to kink shame?///

Whatever gets the sap flowing in your personal Tree of Liberty, right?

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Dopamine Fish  May 27, 2021 • 4:37:25am

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Whatever gets the sap flowing in your personal Tree of Liberty, right?

Well, they do say it needs to be watered with blood…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 4:39:01am
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steve_davis  May 27, 2021 • 4:44:19am

re: #36 No Malarkey!

It makes me nauseous that Republicans want to hurt their own constituents. We are in a low simmering civil war with fascists.

No, it makes you nauseated that republicans are generally nauseous. This goes along with my other pet peeve (okay, one of my many pet peeves), where people say something like “give it to whomever asks for it,” and I find myself shouting at them like John Malkovich in Burn After Reading, with that almost monologue quality to the shouting. It happened again last night, while watching episode 2 of season 3 star trek discovery. Somebody who was supposed to be smart said something like “you’ll give it to whatever r whomever asks for it,” and I was shouting “to WHOEVER asks for it, you stupid c*&^!” and I was wearing headphones at the time, so the entire apartment complex may have heard me shouting that, as I shouted it loud enough so I could hear myself shouting it over the noise cancellation headphones.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 27, 2021 • 4:46:04am

Tots & pears

“… It’s a little-noticed addendum to Trump’s much-criticized plan last summer to prime the economy.

In August, he issued an executive order allowing employers to put off paying their workers’ share of the 12.4 percent Social Security tax for the rest of the year. The idea was to boost consumer spending by putting more money in the pockets of millions.

But the initiative was widely rejected by private sector employers, in part because they feared workers would be unprepared to pay the money back.

It was mandatory, though, for federal employees making less than $4,000 per biweekly paycheck, and the government began implementing it in September.

Trump said many times he expected Congress to eventually forgive the debts. Lawmakers didn’t do that, though they did agree to give people more time to pay the money back. While the IRS had initially wanted the money paid back this year between January and the end of April — matching the four-month length of the deferral — Congress agreed to give people this entire year to repay it.

For current federal employees, the taxes are now being incrementally withheld from their paychecks.

Often overlooked, though, were people who left the government because they quit or retired — but, perhaps more likely, because they were political appointees who had to leave with Trump’s defeat.

Some of those former appointees say they don’t blame Trump, even if his initiative is now coming back to haunt them.

“I thought it was a good plan — I don’t think it got the traction it deserved,” said one former appointee. “I just wish I had the option to opt-out.”

Some point a finger at President Joe Biden. …”

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 4:56:46am

re: #50 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Also, changing Joe Average’s commute to all electric is only a small percentage of emissions. They could have left cars, suvs, and light trucks as is since the 90s and focused on dealing with emissions caused by shipping/freight, air transportation, those god awful floating polluting petri dishes (cruise ships), manufacturing, and of course, power generation and we would be way better off.

ourworldindata.org

Transport is 16.2% of CO2 emissions.
Road Transport is 11.9%
Aviation 1.9%
Shipping 1.7%

So, no, you’re wrong, “those god awful floating polluting petri dishes” are not a priority target, road transport is.

Sixty percent of road transport emissions come from passenger travel (cars, motorcycles and buses), so actually “Joe Average’s commute” is a priority target.

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 5:03:10am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As long as we have met some basic standards, like feeding and housing everyone who needs it, I am all for investment in space exploration.

So you mean you’re against investment in space exploration.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 27, 2021 • 5:03:53am

re: #92 John Hughes

Thing is, though, improving Joe Average’s car mileage from 25mpg to 35mpg doesn’t save as much fuel as one might initially think.

And the problem with electric vehicles is that the majority of electricity generation in the world is still by fossil fuels.

And furthermore, battery production is another energy intensive industry.

There are many reasons why global CO2 emissions have not slowed down. It’s not just malice (though there is plenty of that from the denier industry.)

Global demand for living an energy-intensive lifestyle (as we have here in the US) is not something one can just bottle up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 5:06:11am

re: #93 John Hughes

So you mean you’re against investment in space exploration.

If it were truly a case of either/or then I say feed and house the people first.

But again, even without a space exploration budget at all, there would still not be enough money for the needy.

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Dopamine Fish  May 27, 2021 • 5:07:54am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This is why the incredibly slow development of effective fusion energy is frustrating. It has the potential to solve a lot of the problems associated with current energy sources - incredibly clean immediate waste (maybe some radioactive material to deal with during decommissioning, but far less than fission), plentiful availability of fuel, and in theory, a massive amount of available energy per unit of fuel. The problem is that fusion energy exists in a realm of physics that is poorly understood, and researchers keep running into unexpected barriers that lower its potential. At this point, it’s still unknown if it’s even possible to make it viable without some physics-shattering technological breakthrough we can’t currently foresee.

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 5:08:32am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If it were truly a case of either/or then I say feed and house the people first.

But again, even without a space exploration budget at all, there would still not be enough money for the needy.

Exactly. I think we should do both. I fear we will do neither.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 5:08:54am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Global demand for living an energy-intensive lifestyle (as we have here in the US) is not something one can just bottle up.

We still tend to gauge wealth and prosperity in terms of how much we consume and not the quality of life we generate.

I recall back the good old days when Pravda would publish its annual production figures for various industries to show how much they increased over past years.

Electronics production was always listed in tons, because producing more tons of electronics than last year means our industry is doing better, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 5:12:16am

re: #97 John Hughes

Exactly. I think we should do both. I fear we will do neither.

we will cut taxes for job creators

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 5:12:50am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Most of what you say is true.

But it’s all irrelevant. Just because the problem is hard doesn’t mean we can ignore it.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  May 27, 2021 • 5:30:26am

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

When this was announced, my employer said they weren’t going to play that game with the cutting of FICA withholding for that very reason.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 5:36:16am

re: #95 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If it were truly a case of either/or then I say feed and house the people first.

But again, even without a space exploration budget at all, there would still not be enough money for the needy.

re: #73 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Reich’s claim is an old one, heard since the beginning of space exploration.

The idea that spending money on big ticket items wrt that are off of Earth somehow is negative to helping people on Earth is just false.

jumping in late to this discussion

i didnt read reich’s comments in detail

when i’ve had this argument in the past it falls on two different dimensions

one is the either /or, cant we do two things at once

it also tends to split between the economics and audacious ‘problem solving’

it’s not merely just ‘throw money at the hungry and homeless’

its more like if we’re gonna do another moonshot declaration - spend all that time and effort and technology and smarts to develop an outlandish solution for a problem we dont really have at the moment (having to get to the moon or mars) why can’t/don’t we put that level of problem solving on an identifiable and achievable problem on earth.

one that it would seem should not be so impossibly difficult as space travel

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 5:37:38am
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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 5:38:41am

re: #101 Eric The Fruit Bat

When this was announced, my employer said they weren’t going to play that game with the cutting of FICA withholding for that very reason.

anyone with half a brain saw it as the loan/scam that it was

the federal employees had no choice

and in the end, it did nothing.
just another meaningless bit of performative gesture

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 5:39:16am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And we’re tired of you crying about pronouns and cereal boxes

Then buy only clearly-marked traditional gender-specific breakfast cereals.

Wheaties

Cheerios

Cocoa Pebbles

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 27, 2021 • 5:41:50am
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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 5:53:37am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Thing is, though, improving Joe Average’s car mileage from 25mpg to 35mpg doesn’t save as much fuel as one might initially think.

And the problem with electric vehicles is that the majority of electricity generation in the world is still by fossil fuels.

And furthermore, battery production is another energy intensive industry.

There are many reasons why global CO2 emissions have not slowed down. It’s not just malice (though there is plenty of that from the denier industry.)

Global demand for living an energy-intensive lifestyle (as we have here in the US) is not something one can just bottle up.

While we’re shifting more cars to electric, we shift more electricity production to renewables.

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GlutenFreeJesus  May 27, 2021 • 5:55:15am

re: #103 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 5:56:23am

re: #107 Belafon

While we’re shifting more cars to electric, we shift more electricity production to renewables.

Almost any big city could make the move to convert its fleet of vehicles to electric, this would really raise the density of recharging stations and really kick-start that process.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 5:58:34am

re: #94 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

For me, a change from 25 to 35 mpg (my Fiesta actually averages slightly higher than that for all of my normal driving), is a change from 520 to 371 gallons a year according to my calculator. Thus, just under three barrels per year. Multiply that by a few million vehicles.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 6:00:55am

re: #110 Belafon

For me, a change from 25 to 35 mpg (my Fiesta actually averages slightly higher than that for all of my normal driving), is a change from 520 to 371 gallons a year according to my calculator. Thus, just under three barrels per year. Multiply that by a few million vehicles.

The other point is to make driving long distances on a regular basis less of a necessity for so many people. That requires a lot of infrastructure and urban planning work.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 6:02:45am

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Patricia Kayden  May 27, 2021 • 6:04:07am

re: #106 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

She’s in prison. Why are the authorities allowing her to send Neo-Nazi materials from her prison cell?

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lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 6:06:37am

re: #107 Belafon

SUVs or pickups that used to get 10mpg are now getting 15 mpg, which is a 30% improvement (reducing consumption by 1/3). That’s an even bigger improvement than a sedan that might go from 25 to 30 (20%). Pickups have not seen the rise in fuel economy seen in other vehicle classifications, in part because consumers and manufacturers are both fixate on horsepower. Higher horsepower while no change in fuel economy.

greencarreports.com

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 6:06:44am

re: #107 Belafon

While we’re shifting more cars to electric, we shift more electricity production to renewables.

and power production at the plants is more efficient than a car’s internal combustion multiplied by lots of cars

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 6:08:35am

re: #115 Dangerman

and power production at the plants is more efficient than a car’s internal combustion multiplied by lots of cars

I definitely would like to find actual numbers on this.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 6:13:31am

re: #116 Belafon

I definitely would like to find actual numbers on this.

quick search found a forbes article

The reason is as simple as it is obvious: energy produced in a power plant is much more efficient than in the small engine of a vehicle, no matter how much technology has improved the efficiency of these vehicles. The average coal plant about 35% efficient, with the very best ultra super critical coal plants at about 42% efficient. Even the best combined cycle natural gas plants are about 60%, which still implies that 40% of the energy obtained from the fuel used is lost in the process of producing electricity. An internal combustion engine in a car is at best 25%, efficient, with most energy simply lost as heat. In a large power plant, the possibilities of reusing that heat are obviously much greater than in the small engine of a vehicle.

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jeffreyw  May 27, 2021 • 6:14:00am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 6:15:34am

re: #102 Dangerman

distilled to one sentence:

why are we willing to dedicate so much expertise and money to solve a problem we dont have instead of addressing obviously solvable humanitarian ones we do have

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Nojay UK  May 27, 2021 • 6:15:48am

re: #107 Belafon

While we’re shifting more cars to electric, we shift more electricity production to renewables.

The US has been spending big and making renewables happen for the past decade or so so you would think they now represent a large part of the US generating capacity, yes?

Actually no. The IEA reports that wind and solar produced only 10% or so of US electricity in 2020. The big winner is gas at 40% with coal and nuclear neck and neck for second place at 20% each. There’s another 10% or so of older hydropower capacity to add to that and it’s renewable but it’s not the sexy wind turbines and solar plants which everyone thinks of when the word “renewables” is mentioned.

More EVs will mean more electricity consumption and it’s easier and cheaper to run gas plants harder or build more of them than it is to build out renewables ten times faster than the current rate to keep up with demand and actually replace coal, never mind gas.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 6:16:13am

re: #115 Dangerman

and power production at the plants is more efficient than a car’s internal combustion multiplied by lots of cars

Power plants typically have far better emissions controls than tailpipe emissions. As power generation shifts to renewables, like wind or solar, there are no emissions at all, which makes EVs emission free altogether.

Power plants are typically more efficient at power production than motor vehicle ICEs. It’s a function of scale and the ability to recapture heat in further energy generation. Motor vehicles can’t, since they lack the space or weight constraints limit what can be done.

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A Mom Anon  May 27, 2021 • 6:16:37am

re: #111 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And the actual planning is the key. I live in a seriously overdeveloped area with no end in sight. There are dozens of sites that were developed and abandoned because of poor access, deals falling through or shiny new stuff being built while perfectly good buildings were abandoned by businesses who had to expand. Many of which are gone now, and not coming back.

One debacle was 25 wooded acres cleared and made ready for a gun club. Supposedly would bring all kinds of business to the area, blah blah. That lot had one office building put on it after the gun club deal fell through(the gun club built near the county airport instead, because the title on the land was in question. Wouldn’t you check all that before promising to build there?) Three years later, the building is empty. They build tons of overpriced subdivisions and don’t widen roads to accommodate traffic increases. And this is one county with a lot of insanely affluent people who have moved here over the last 20 yrs. Georgia is full of wasteful shit like this. And no affordable housing anywhere that wasn’t built in the 60s and 70s.

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darthstar  May 27, 2021 • 6:18:54am

Get Vaxxed, get a free education. So the kid’s also vaccinated against becoming a Republican when he’s older.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 6:23:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 6:24:52am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yes, we need to be led by someone who moves on her like a bitch…when you’re powerful, they let you do it.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 6:27:01am

re: #124 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah we need a bunco artist in the Oval Office who wolfs down Super Sized Big Mac meals…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 6:29:11am

I see that Eric Carle, author of The Very Hungry Caterpillar has died.

We could dedicate a posthumous book to him: The Very Hungry Earthworm

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 6:31:32am
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Egregious Philbin  May 27, 2021 • 6:32:22am

re: #110 Belafon

I switched to a Prius a few years back. I typically get 55-60 mpg now, though I rarely drive it more than 20 miles a day, sometimes not at all. I do a lot on my electric bike though, usually the trips to the dive bar…LOL.

I am looking at the Prius prime, 25 miles of electric, then hybrid.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 6:34:14am

re: #120 Nojay UK

And that’s mostly political will. Iowa is now producing most of it’s electricity from wind.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 6:37:07am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 6:39:37am
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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 6:44:13am

re: #128 Belafon

France, ranked 11/195 on the list also did pretty badly, and many of the criticisms of the US and UK also apply — failure to implement track&trace, poor stockpiles of PPE (huge stockpiles had been built up in 2010 for the potential H1N1 flu epidemic then just squandered or even left to rot over the intervening years).

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 6:46:00am

re: #128 Belafon

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Its not how well or poorly we did compared to the world
Its how well we should have done

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Nojay UK  May 27, 2021 • 6:47:13am

re: #130 Belafon

And that’s mostly political will. Iowa is now producing most of it’s electricity from wind.

Locally some places produce most if not all of their electricity from wind and solar or even hydro but a lot more places rely on fossil-carbon thermal plants or nuclear to keep the lights on. Even the renewables-rich places burn a shitload of gas and oil for home and premises heating in the winter when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine and all that combustion ends up as additional CO2 in the atmosphere and more climate change.

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Sherlock Hound  May 27, 2021 • 6:49:21am

re: #65 danarchy

Republicans in Massachusetts are not capable of stomping on anything. They may make a lot of noise but even with a republican governor the legislature can override any veto they choose.

The Speaker of the House usually goes, “I’m in East Bumwick. The T doesn’t run out here. Vetoed.” There are a lot of Massholes who vote Republican to “balance out” the Dems.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 27, 2021 • 6:51:35am

re: #104 Dangerman

anyone with half a brain saw it as the loan/scam that it was

the federal employees had no choice

and in the end, it did nothing.
just another meaningless bit of performative gesture

You are so right. Totally unnecessary and designed to increase the deficit. The problem was not that people who were continuing to work needed this extra money because of the pandemic.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 6:53:50am

re: #137 Hecuba’s daughter

You are so right. Totally unnecessary and designed to increase the deficit. The problem was not that people who were continuing to work needed this extra money because of the pandemic.

I lucked out since I’m in the old Civil Service Retirement System and just have Medicare tax deducted from my pay. Lots of coworkers are really pissed off that their pay is being docked for unpaid FICA tax.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 6:58:06am

re: #137 Hecuba’s daughter

You are so right. Totally unnecessary and designed to increase the deficit. The problem was not that people who were continuing to work needed this extra money because of the pandemic.

Not designed to increase the deficit. Designed to break Social Security, a goal of the Republican Party ever since it was founded nearly ninety years ago.

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Egregious Philbin  May 27, 2021 • 7:01:42am

re: #131 Belafon

I was briefed back in January by my company which did a lot of work for the vaccine rollout and databasing that the early word was that the vaccines would last for 2 years, but that there was no concrete data on that. The VP also said back then, that by June we would mostly be back to normal. We were skeptical then, but everything he said was correct.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 7:12:09am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 7:15:08am

re: #142 Dangerman

If the coup had succeeded, January 6th would have become Second Independence Day.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 7:16:20am

cnn

A federal judge on Wednesday wrote that Donald Trump’s “Big Lie” that the 2020 election was stolen from him could still inspire some of the former President’s supporters to take up arms, as they did in January during the deadly US Capitol insurrection.

The judge’s blunt assessment of the current, charged political climate came in a legal decision about a defendant who was drawn to Washington, DC, in January. And it adds to a growing chorus of warnings from the officials most closely weighing the aftermath of the Capitol riot about what the threat level still might be.

“The steady drumbeat that inspired defendant to take up arms has not faded away; six months later, the canard that the election was stolen is being repeated daily on major news outlets and from the corridors of power in state and federal government, not to mention in the near-daily fulminations of the former President,” Judge Amy Berman Jackson of the DC District Court wrote in an opinion to keep defendant Cleveland Meredith Jr. in jail because he could endanger the public if released.

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Mattand  May 27, 2021 • 7:20:58am

re: #129 Egregious Philbin

I switched to a Prius a few years back. I typically get 55-60 mpg now, though I rarely drive it more than 20 miles a day, sometimes not at all. I do a lot on my electric bike though, usually the trips to the dive bar…LOL.

I am looking at the Prius prime, 25 miles of electric, then hybrid.

Buddy of mine just picked up a used one. He’s really happy with it. His drives are local enough that he’s using mostly electric. He estimates that he’s used maybe a quarter of the tank from the last time he filled up.

I went all electric with the Chevy Bolt 3.5 years ago. Best car I’ve ever had. Cannot say enough good things about it. It has its issues but it’s the only car I’ve owned I’ve ever actually cared about.

My partner is circling the plug-in hybrid RAV4 for maybe next year.

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Mattand  May 27, 2021 • 7:23:11am

re: #132 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’ve found the best way to unite any group of religious people, regardless of how strong their faith is, is to simply state “I really don’t believe in that stuff any more.”

Even the most liberal person in the group will slowly start inching away from you, LOL.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2021 • 7:24:31am

Fucking hell.

On Wednesday, WSMV reported that a woman in eastern Tennessee was arrested after she drove recklessly through a drive-in COVID-19 vaccination site to protest the administration of the vaccine — nearly hitting several health workers in the process.

“Deputies arrested Virginia C. Brown, 36, of Greenback, TN, on Monday morning after she drove through a vaccination center set up at the Foothills Mall,” reported Chuck Morris. “Deputies assigned to assist at the site saw a blue Chrysler SUV traveling at a high rate of speed through a closed cone course and through an enclosed tent with several Health Department and National Guard personnel working under the tent. The deputy observed the Chrysler SUV exit the tent and continue to drive recklessly through the cone course. A deputy was able to follow Brown after she drove through the site and arrest her. She was charged with seven counts of felony reckless endangerment.”

According to the report, workers reported that she shouted something that sounded like “No vaccine!” as she blew past them, and after being apprehended, she denied driving recklessly.

“While sitting in the back of the deputy’s car, she made several statements to deputies about wanting to protest the vaccine,” said the report. “She said she was driving through the course and once she got to the tent, she told the personnel working she was not there for the vaccine. She told deputies she was only doing 5 miles per hour through the tent.”

I wonder if the GOP will start passing laws to make doing this legal too?

Half /

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So Cal Greek Hippie  May 27, 2021 • 7:25:25am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rudy Giuliani’s head seepage would be the new stigmata if 1/6 were successful in overturning the Government

Buffalo head dude would have his own TV show on Fox

Dying of covid19 would be spun as a tribute to Trump

Counting my blessings multiple times a day for missing that timeline

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lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 7:28:43am

Media outlets keep amplifying the whole China lab started the pandemic bulkshit, despite no actual evidence.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 7:28:53am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

The same type of mentality of the guy above who took time out to take a picture of the cereal box and tweet about it.

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darthstar  May 27, 2021 • 7:28:53am

The guy’s good at crunching baseball stats and sometimes poll numbers, but he’s no virologist.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 7:30:13am

re: #149 lawhawk

I do like that Palmer has adopted the Game of Thrones Biden avatar.

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2021 • 7:30:42am

I’m not hopeful, but I have my fingers crossed. In an interview posted on vox.com, one analyst said that if HR1 doesn’t pass, his analysis of the crisis level is “move to another country after 2024.” And it won’t pass unless the filibuster is reformed.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 7:32:52am

re: #151 darthstar

The guy’s good at crunching baseball stats and sometimes poll numbers, but he’s no virologist.

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I see Silver isn’t a Bayesianist.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 7:34:18am

re: #153 No Malarkey!

I’m not hopeful, but I have my fingers crossed. In an interview posted on vox.com, one analyst said that if HR1 doesn’t pass, his analysis of the crisis level is “move to another country after 2024.” And it won’t pass unless the filibuster is reformed.

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Joe has a lot of “Why are you helping the blacks?” constituents.

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2021 • 7:34:35am

Initial jobless claims fell for a fourth straight week to 406k, a new pandemic low.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2021 • 7:36:13am

I am getting tired of that lab leak theory. And also, even if it DID somehow get released from a lab due to human error, that’s STILL not proof it was CREATED there.

What if it had been found in nature and some samples had been collected and taken to the lab for analysis and then a problem occurred?

And we don’t know why those 3 lab workers ended up in the hospital and even if it was something they came into contact with at work, there’s no guarantee it was Covid-19.

There had to have been any number of other biological pathogens in that lab.

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lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 7:38:55am
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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 7:39:17am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Fucking hell.

On Wednesday, WSMV reported that a woman in eastern Tennessee was arrested after she drove recklessly through a drive-in COVID-19 vaccination site to protest the administration of the vaccine — nearly hitting several health workers in the process.

“Deputies arrested Virginia C. Brown, 36, of Greenback, TN, on Monday morning after she drove through a vaccination center set up at the Foothills Mall,” reported Chuck Morris. “Deputies assigned to assist at the site saw a blue Chrysler SUV traveling at a high rate of speed through a closed cone course and through an enclosed tent with several Health Department and National Guard personnel working under the tent. The deputy observed the Chrysler SUV exit the tent and continue to drive recklessly through the cone course. A deputy was able to follow Brown after she drove through the site and arrest her. She was charged with seven counts of felony reckless endangerment.”

According to the report, workers reported that she shouted something that sounded like “No vaccine!” as she blew past them, and after being apprehended, she denied driving recklessly.

“While sitting in the back of the deputy’s car, she made several statements to deputies about wanting to protest the vaccine,” said the report. “She said she was driving through the course and once she got to the tent, she told the personnel working she was not there for the vaccine. She told deputies she was only doing 5 miles per hour through the tent.”

I wonder if the GOP will start passing laws to make doing this legal too?

Half /

half is generous

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2021 • 7:41:14am

re: #155 Belafon

Joe has a lot of “Why are you helping the blacks?” constituents.

Thanks to the nearly miraculous sweep of the Georgia Senate runoffs, the Democrats have this window of opportunity to save democracy and head off a massive crisis in 2024-25. But that window will close soon if all 50 Democratic Senators don’t come together to seize the moment. It’s not just Manchin and Sinema either, there are others reluctant to end their hoary old tradition.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 7:42:34am

re: #145 Mattand

My partner is circling the plug-in hybrid RAV4 for maybe next year.

I get to go for a ride in a Tesla this weekend, buddy is coming out in his model that he has had for over a year now…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 7:51:23am

re: #149 lawhawk

Media outlets keep amplifying the whole China lab started the pandemic bulkshit, despite no actual evidence.

And it’s still a deflection from the awful response of the maladministration.

While the origin is important (to prevent future outbreaks), it is immaterial to statements like Tex. Lt. Gov. Patrick’s assertion that grandma should die for the economy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2021 • 7:51:40am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Initial jobless claims fell for a fourth straight week to 406k, a new pandemic low.

I was told everything would go straight to hell if Joe was elected.

What’s taking so long?

/

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Egregious Philbin  May 27, 2021 • 7:52:50am

re: #145 Mattand

My GF bought a regular Rav4 last year, she loves it. She finally got something new after 250,000 miles on her ancient Matrix. I think the Matrix will survive nuclear war, but all the hub caps fall off on the model, its quite fun to spot them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 7:53:38am

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

I was told everything would go straight to hell if Joe was elected.

What’s taking so long?

/

Trump did such a job of Making America Great that it is taking Joe longer than expected to wreck it…

/////

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 7:57:57am

re: #147 Eclectic Cyborg

Explain the difference to me between extremist Muslims who kill vaccination workers, and extremist Christians who kill vaccination workers?

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No Malarkey!  May 27, 2021 • 7:58:12am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump did such a job of Making America Great that it is taking Joe longer than expected to wreck it…

/////

If you listened only to Fox News, you would think the nation is falling apart, with hyperinflation and an ongoing terrorist onslaught at the southern border. /

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 7:59:20am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Explain the difference to me between extremist Muslims who kill vaccination workers, and extremist Christians who kill vaccination workers?

Nothing, but did the story identify her as a Christian?

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 8:06:51am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

If you listened only to Fox News, you would think the nation is falling apart, with hyperinflation and an ongoing terrorist onslaught at the southern border. /

Which my relatives believe…just like they believe Crackhead Mike saying that Trump will be restored to the Presidency on Memorial Day and JFK Jr. will become Vice-President…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 8:08:14am

re: #166 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Explain the difference to me between extremist Muslims who kill vaccination workers, and extremist Christians who kill vaccination workers?

One of the worships the True God and the other is an Infidel.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 8:09:13am

And the Communist, er, Republican brainwashing continues…

Michele Bachmann Claims the ‘Progressive Left’ Carried Out the Capitol Insurrection

And my brainwashed sister voted for this ass in the 2012 Republican Primary because Jesus told her to…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 8:13:09am

re: #171 🌹UOJB!

“It’s all been put down the memory hole. Which is why we need to forget about it and move on…”

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lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 8:13:20am

re: #171 🌹UOJB!

And yet the GOP doesn’t want to hold a bipartisan investigation to err… prove… these allegations. Weird.

That’s not weird. It’s just proof that the GOP knows they are 100% at fault for 1/6, the subsequent coverups to protect Trump and their fellow GOP treasonweasels.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 8:15:34am

Matt Gaetz was one of the first to offer “proof” that it was an Antifa false flag.

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garzooma  May 27, 2021 • 8:18:40am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And it’s still a deflection from the awful response of the maladministration.

While the origin is important (to prevent future outbreaks), it is immaterial to statements like Tex. Lt. Gov. Patrick’s assertion that grandma should die for the economy.

What gets me is that it ignores all the full-some praise that Trump lavished on Xi Jinping. Politico has a list. Some examples:

Jan. 24, Twitter:

“China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

Feb. 7, Remarks at North Carolina Opportunity Now Summit in Charlotte, N.C.:

“I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we’re working on the — the problem, the virus. It’s a — it’s a very tough situation. But I think he’s going to handle it. I think he’s handled it really well. We’re helping wherever we can.”

Feb. 23, remarks before Marine One departure:

“I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He’s working very hard. I think he’s doing a very good job. It’s a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He’s working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem. OK?”

Trump was basically doing PR for China.

The notion that this was an engineered bio-weapon only makes it worse:
“So you’re saying that Trump downplayed an attack with a deadly virus and you think this makes him look good?”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2021 • 8:19:32am

re: #175 garzooma

What gets me is that it ignores all the full-some praise that Trump lavished on Xi Jinping. Politico has a list. Some examples:

Trump was basically doing PR for China.

The notion that this was an engineered bio-weapon only makes it worse:
“So you’re saying that Trump downplayed an attack with a deadly virus and you think this makes him look good?”

It had nothing to with Trump wanting to look good. it had to do with him wanting to protect his business interests in China.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 8:21:41am

re: #176 Eclectic Cyborg

It had nothing to with Trump wanting to look good. it had to do with him wanting to protect his business interests in China.

We lived in a Media Reality where what he said at one venue to one audience had no relation to what he said at a different spot to a different group of people.

That Media Reality still exists to a degree but it is losing its ability to distract our attention from that Man Behind the Curtain.

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2021 • 8:23:44am

re: #171 🌹UOJB!

And the Communist, er, Republican brainwashing continues…

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And my brainwashed sister voted for this ass in the 2012 Republican Primary because Jesus told her to…

Well if that is the case then all these “patriots” should be in favor of hanging every insurrectionist that raided the house, right? Death sentence for all of them, those fucking antifa, leftist scum. We have them on video, what more evidence do we need?

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 8:23:48am

re: #118 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Sidewalk cracks… the last frontier

(There are three or four of these bushes in the plot behind this (you can see the bases in the picture. This one is the largest.)

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 8:24:23am

I’m not making this shit up, really…

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Eventual Carrion  May 27, 2021 • 8:26:17am

re: #180 Teukka

I’m not making this shit up, really…

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“Battle Gays”. Is that a game I can get on Epic Games site?

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2021 • 8:27:29am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 8:29:20am

re: #180 Teukka

“Battle gays are attacking Belarus from the Baltics”

and from Scotland:

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 27, 2021 • 8:32:34am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

“Battle Gays”. Is that a game I can get on Epic Games site?

No, but you can get Unreal from Epic and build it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 8:35:56am

re: #151 darthstar

The guy’s good at crunching baseball stats and sometimes poll numbers, but he’s no virologist.

Yeah, Nate, we call this “a guess.”

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 8:41:29am

re: #183 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and from Scotland:

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Stole and weaponized:

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 8:42:52am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

I am getting tired of that lab leak theory. And also, even if it DID somehow get released from a lab due to human error, that’s STILL not proof it was CREATED there.

What if it had been found in nature and some samples had been collected and taken to the lab for analysis and then a problem occurred?

And we don’t know why those 3 lab workers ended up in the hospital and even if it was something they came into contact with at work, there’s no guarantee it was Covid-19.

There had to have been any number of other biological pathogens in that lab.

When this was first bruited about, the arguments that it was not lab-created were also reviewed (I don’t remember them well enough to relay them here), and I found them convincing. Also, with a two-week incubation it would be a lousy biological war weapon, and who would bother creating viruses in a lab when there are so many natural ones?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 8:44:30am

re: #168 Belafon

Nothing, but did the story identify her as a Christian?

No it did not.

However, the number of atheistic/humanist organisations promoting “vaccines are evil” are around nil.

The number of Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and other religions outside of Christianity in the USA are tiny percentages.

Innumerable churches of all denominations are promoting they are evil.

When you have God on your side and you are fighting evil, then you can rationalise everything as “opposition to evil.”

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 27, 2021 • 8:48:06am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

“Battle Gays”. Is that a game I can get on Epic Games site?

$39.99 For the regular version

$59.99 for the Extra Fabulous Edition

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2021 • 8:49:47am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

When you have God on your side and you are fighting evil, then you can rationalise everything as “opposition to evil.”

Except for the lack of ‘rational’ in ‘rationalise’.

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b.d. (The GOP Hate America)  May 27, 2021 • 8:51:45am

re: #151 darthstar

The guy’s good at crunching baseball stats and sometimes poll numbers, but he’s no virologist.

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People think Nate is smart just because he doesn’t bathe. He must be one of those pre-occupied geniuses!

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 8:55:03am

re: #173 lawhawk

And yet the GOP doesn’t want to hold a bipartisan investigation to err… prove… these allegations. Weird.

That’s not weird. It’s just proof that the GOP knows they are 100% at fault for 1/6, the subsequent coverups to protect Trump and their fellow GOP treasonweasels.

Also, that they know they’re lying when they say antifa had something to do with it. (If they believed it, there would be 50 repug votes for the commission.)

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A Three Hour Tour  May 27, 2021 • 8:55:24am

re: #90 steve_davis

No, it makes you nauseated that republicans are generally nauseous. This goes along with my other pet peeve (okay, one of my many pet peeves), where people say something like “give it to whomever asks for it,” and I find myself shouting at them like John Malkovich in Burn After Reading, with that almost monologue quality to the shouting. It happened again last night, while watching episode 2 of season 3 star trek discovery. Somebody who was supposed to be smart said something like “you’ll give it to whatever r whomever asks for it,” and I was shouting “to WHOEVER asks for it, you stupid c*&^!” and I was wearing headphones at the time, so the entire apartment complex may have heard me shouting that, as I shouted it loud enough so I could hear myself shouting it over the noise cancellation headphones.

“To whomever” is grammatically correct. Object of the preposition.

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 8:57:30am

re: #144 Dangerman

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 8:59:44am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, Nate, we call this “a guess.”

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That’s why I said he wasn’t a Bayesianist. I see no consideration of any prior knowledge of how viruses mutate in his “estimate.”

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 9:00:40am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah, Nate, we call this “a guess.”

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(From Wikipedia… much more to be found there)

Bayesian inference is a method of statistical inference in which Bayes’ theorem is used to update the probability for a hypothesis as more evidence or information becomes available. Bayesian inference is an important technique in statistics, and especially in mathematical statistics. Bayesian updating is particularly important in the dynamic analysis of a sequence of data. Bayesian inference has found application in a wide range of activities, including science, engineering, philosophy, medicine, sport, and law. In the philosophy of decision theory, Bayesian inference is closely related to subjective probability, often called “Bayesian probability”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:02:23am

“Baesian probability” is the chance that my bae is gonna be on time for our next date…

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 9:03:30am

re: #193 A Three Hour Tour

“To whomever” is grammatically correct. Object of the preposition.

Actually, they both are, since it’s an object of one clause and the subject of the other. This generates lengthy discussions among grammarians.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 9:04:02am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:07:03am

re: #199 🌹UOJB!

Despite every effort of the Woke left and its allies in the left-wing news media, a recent poll for Gingrich 360 found most Americans remain proud of our country and value patriotism.

Patriotism is much more than blind chauvinism and ignoring/suppressing/rewriting/CANCELLING bad things that have happened.

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wrenchwench  May 27, 2021 • 9:10:42am

re: #194 Teukka

Word of the day:

canard

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:12:15am

re: #201 wrenchwench

Word of the day:

canard

Drink of the day:

kanar

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The Pie Overlord!  May 27, 2021 • 9:13:39am

re: #199 🌹UOJB!

Yeah I am sure that each and every one of the treasonous criminal mob who ransacked The Capitol on 1/6 considered themselves PATRIOTZZZ!!11!! who LOOOOOVE AMURIKKKA!!!!1!!1!!!

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2021 • 9:13:47am
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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:14:24am

re: #199 🌹UOJB!

Newt Gingrich, treating Americans like 8 year olds.

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Mattand  May 27, 2021 • 9:15:04am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

“Battle Gays”. Is that a game I can get on Epic Games site?

The DLC is fabulous.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 27, 2021 • 9:15:26am

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 9:15:43am

re: #201 wrenchwench

Word of the day:

canard

1. canard (plural canards): n. A false or misleading report or story, especially if deliberately so.
2. (aviation) A type of aircraft in which the primary horizontal control and stabilization surfaces are in front of the main wing.
3. (aviation, by extension) A horizontal control and stabilization surface located in front of the main wing of an aircraft.
4. (transport, engineering, by extension) Any small winglike structure on a vehicle, usually used for stabilization.

Le Sauce: en.wiktionary.org

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Mattand  May 27, 2021 • 9:16:05am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

$39.99 For the regular version

$59.99 for the Extra Fabulous Edition

Goddamnit, I need to scan the thread before posting my Original Witty Takes™.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 9:16:31am

re: #201 wrenchwench

Word of the day:

canard

Job of the day:

canner

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 27, 2021 • 9:17:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:18:31am

re: #208 Teukka

1. canard (plural canards): n. A false or misleading report or story, especially if deliberately so.
2. (aviation) A type of aircraft in which the primary horizontal control and stabilization surfaces are in front of the main wing.
3. (aviation, by extension) A horizontal control and stabilization surface located in front of the main wing of an aircraft.
4. (transport, engineering, by extension) Any small winglike structure on a vehicle, usually used for stabilization.

The French word for “duck”

Funny that German uses Ente and Russian утка (útka) for the very same thing. They both mean “duck”

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 9:20:11am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The French word for “duck”

Funny that German uses Ente and Russian утка (útka) for the very same thing. They both mean “duck”

I dunno why, but this line of thought came to mind…
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The Pie Overlord!  May 27, 2021 • 9:22:11am
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A Cranky One  May 27, 2021 • 9:22:32am

re: #213 Teukka

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What the duck?!!!

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:24:00am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Spanish word is “pato.” I guess ducks were discovered after the romance language split?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:26:27am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

That is just fucking astounding…the total lack of self-awareness. “I’m doing nothing wrong”.

Remember how many times black people have been told that they have nothing to fear if they have done nothing wrong?

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A Three Hour Tour  May 27, 2021 • 9:26:42am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

The Trump-worshipping white dude should’ve complied with the cops.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:28:20am

re: #218 A Three Hour Tour

The Trump-worshipping white dude should’ve complied with the cops.

Sovereign Citizens do not have to…it’s not his homestead, but whatever.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 9:28:32am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

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Memories of my aunt’s prayer altar with a picture of Pruneface Reagan on it…and she actually prayed to Pruneface because her Pulpit Pimp told her to.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:29:05am

re: #216 Belafon

The Spanish word is “pato.” I guess ducks were discovered after the romance language split?

that sounds perfectly pato-logical

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 27, 2021 • 9:29:58am

The Christian Nationalist Bible has been cancelled. Cancel culture strikes again. It’s not safe to be a fascist anymore.

friendlyatheist.patheos.com (Patheos)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 9:30:01am

re: #220 🌹UOJB!

Memories of my aunt’s prayer altar with a picture of Pruneface Reagan on it…and she actually prayed to Pruneface because her Pulpit Pimp told her to.

Nancy had a White House Astrologer but they still revered Ronnie…

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 9:30:32am

re: #198 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Actually, they both are, since it’s an object of one clause and the subject of the other. This generates lengthy discussions among grammarians.

right up there with the oxford comma, two spaces between sentences, and pineapple on pizza.

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 9:31:53am

More on 🇧🇾 :

24 minutes after the plane was diverted.

It is said that people who lie for too long lose the “compass” that tells them what they can get away with…

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Jay C  May 27, 2021 • 9:32:18am

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

$39.99 For the regular version

$59.99 for the Extra Fabulous Edition

Aren’t ALL the versions Fabulous???

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 9:33:07am

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Job of the day:

canner

actor of the day

Kinnear (greg)

228
The Pie Overlord!  May 27, 2021 • 9:33:11am

It’s like Abraham begging G-D not to destroy Sodom if he can find 10 righteous people.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 9:34:07am

re: #216 Belafon

The Spanish word is “pato.” I guess ducks were discovered after the romance language split?

Doubtful, ducks are everywhere. Sometimes local terms are picked up and turn into standards for no particular reason.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 9:34:11am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is just fucking astounding…the total lack of self-awareness. “I’m doing nothing wrong”.

Remember how many times black people have been told that they have nothing to fear if they have done nothing wrong?

different definitions of ‘wrong’

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The Pie Overlord!  May 27, 2021 • 9:38:20am
232
Dr Lizardo  May 27, 2021 • 9:39:22am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

LOL one of the comments on the stream was “SAVE ME TOM CRUISE!!”

That’s same Grade-A dumbassery.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:41:17am

re: #228 The Pie Overlord!

It’s like Abraham begging G-D not to destroy Sodom if he can find 10 righteous people.

[Embedded content]

Maybe someone should send those verses to him.

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 9:41:22am

re: #208 Teukka

Why a duck?

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 9:42:00am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

[Embedded content]

is part of a senator’s job description and obligations to do ‘personal favors’ ?

for anyone

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:42:04am

re: #228 The Pie Overlord!

It’s like Abraham begging G-D not to destroy Sodom if he can find 10 righteous people.

[Embedded content]

“I’m not willing to destroy our government.” But you are, Joe, you just think you’re not.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 9:43:00am

re: #234 John Hughes

Why a duck?

here we go….

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DesertDenizen  May 27, 2021 • 9:43:13am

re: #236 Belafon

“I’m not willing to destroy our government.” But you are, Joe, you just think you’re not.

He’s destroying it in order to save it.

///

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:44:28am

re: #238 DesertDenizen

He’s destroying it in order to save it.

///

More the reverse.

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JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 9:45:29am

re: #236 Belafon

“I’m not willing to destroy our government.” But you are, Joe, you just think you’re not.

This is how empires fall.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2021 • 9:49:41am

I was just followed by a Greg Housh with 124K followers. I wondered who this guy was and so I Googled and cool, I guess.

imdb.com

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 9:50:51am

re: #229 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Doubtful, ducks are everywhere. Sometimes local terms are picked up and turn into standards for no particular reason.

Canard for duck is from the old French “quanart”, probably from the sound ducks make — “coin coin” (pronounced KWAN KWAN) in French.

What noise do Spanish ducks make?

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 9:51:50am

re: #231 The Pie Overlord!

A “personal” favor? What is Mitch worried they’d find?

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Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 9:51:55am

re: #214 The Pie Overlord!

Looking at the thread, I see that someone cried “Havoc!” and let slip the dogs of war twitter sleuths…

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John Hughes  May 27, 2021 • 9:53:08am

re: #236 Belafon

“I’m not willing to destroy our government.” But you are, Joe, you just think you’re not.

He actually means “I’m not willing to defend our government”.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  May 27, 2021 • 9:56:32am

re: #243 John Hughes

A “personal” favor? What is Mitch worried they’d find?

That was my first thought, but the second was that the former guy may have asked Mitch for a personal favor.

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Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 9:59:27am
248
Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 10:00:18am

Edit: I applaud their use of the word massacre.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  May 27, 2021 • 10:01:54am

re: #248 Belafon

Critical Race Theory, anyone?

250
Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 10:04:09am
251
JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 10:04:59am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Critical Race Theory, anyone?

You can bet Screwpert Murdoch will be beating that drum all week long.

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ericblair  May 27, 2021 • 10:19:17am

re: #228 The Pie Overlord!

It’s like Abraham begging G-D not to destroy Sodom if he can find 10 righteous people.

[Embedded content]

I think this isn’t some act; he honestly is this confused by the goopers’ behavior.

I haven’t ever followed his career in detail, but is it possible that he may be, how should I put this, stupid?

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 10:22:37am

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DesertDenizen  May 27, 2021 • 10:24:55am

re: #252 ericblair

In my experience people of good faith assume everyone operates in good faith, and people of bad faith assume everyone operates in bad faith. The Republicans operate in bad faith and presume everyone else does too. Is Machin so naive that he assumes otherwise?

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A Mom Anon  May 27, 2021 • 10:29:42am

re: #254 DesertDenizen

He’s more worried about his job as a Democrat in a red state. He’s not that dumb, just worried about his own ass. Same with his buddy Sinema.

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gocart mozart  May 27, 2021 • 10:30:08am

Crazy play

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 10:31:30am

re: #252 ericblair

I think this isn’t some act; he honestly is this confused by the goopers’ behavior.

I haven’t ever followed his career in detail, but is it possible that he may be, how should I put this, stupid?

i ‘believe’ he is not stupid

he’s old school. he knows these arent republicans of old** but he hasn’t yet come to accept it yet.

i ‘hope’ he pushes it as far as he can and in the end says ‘i did everything i could and now there’s no choice”

that would likely mean reconciliation for infrastructure and hope he holds the line on the originally $4T and tax increases (because there’s no point in sticking with any now abandoned R proposal since zero of them are gonna vote for it)

and going back to a talking filibuster on voting rights, police, DC ,etc

**rollcall via electoral-vote.com

Former Republican senator John Warner of Virginia, a towering figure, died on Tuesday.
Warner’s death reminds Washington what it’s missing

.

258
DesertDenizen  May 27, 2021 • 10:34:45am

re: #255 A Mom Anon

I live in Arizona, and while the rural areas like I’m in are getting reactionary red, but the overall urbanization is solidly turning the state blue.

259
Belafon  May 27, 2021 • 10:35:58am

re: #255 A Mom Anon

He’s more worried about his job as a Democrat in a red state. He’s not that dumb, just worried about his own ass. Same with his buddy Sinema.

Someone should ask Sinema why Kelly is polling better than she is, and why her polling went down after he defeating the minimum wage hike.

260
Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 10:37:33am

anyone post this yet?

261
DesertDenizen  May 27, 2021 • 10:38:44am

re: #259 Belafon

Someone should ask Sinema why Kelly is polling better than she is, and why her polling went down after he defeating the minimum wage hike.

Bingo. I don’t know who she’s trying to pander to, since Kelly is so much more popular.

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Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 10:38:56am

re: #255 A Mom Anon

He’s more worried about his job as a Democrat in a red state. He’s not that dumb, just worried about his own ass. Same with his buddy Sinema.

she could lose to a D who could still win the general

Manchin cannot

263
JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 10:39:47am

A Proud Boys member seen wielding an ax handle during the U.S. Capitol insurrection wants to be released from jail so his disability payments aren’t discontinued.

Fuck you, Asshole. If you’re in jail your benefits are stopped. Period.

alternet.org

264
JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 10:40:34am

re: #262 Dangerman

she could lose to a D who could still win the general

Manchin cannot

Just remember the Berniebot who challenged Caputo in West VIrgina got slaughtered at the polls last November.

265
gocart mozart  May 27, 2021 • 10:40:57am

I did not know this existed.

266
A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  May 27, 2021 • 10:42:41am

re: #242 John Hughes

Canard for duck is from the old French “quanart”, probably from the sound ducks make — “coin coin” (pronounced KWAN KWAN) in French.

What noise do Spanish ducks make?

Cuac cuac.

267
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 27, 2021 • 10:44:41am
268
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 27, 2021 • 10:46:04am

re: #256 gocart mozart

That’s some little league magic

269
Teukka  May 27, 2021 • 10:46:23am

re: #266 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Cuac cuac.

What is this quackery?

270
TedStriker  May 27, 2021 • 10:47:49am

re: #265 gocart mozart

I did not know this existed.

Tina Turner - Whole Lotta Love

Damn, this is the first I’ve heard this cover as well, but Tina ripped the hell out of this…it just oozes sex.

271
jeffreyw  May 27, 2021 • 10:49:19am

re: #229 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Doubtful, ducks are everywhere. Sometimes local terms are picked up and turn into standards for no particular reason.

272
JOE 🥓  May 27, 2021 • 10:50:30am

re: #265 gocart mozart

I did not know this existed.

[Embedded content]

And then there’s Prince’s version…

Prince - Whole Lotta Love (Live At The Aladdin, Las Vegas, 12/15/2002)

273
ericblair  May 27, 2021 • 10:55:39am

re: #257 Dangerman

i ‘believe’ he is not stupid

he’s old school. he knows these arent republicans of old** but he hasn’t yet come to accept it yet.

i ‘hope’ he pushes it as far as he can and in the end says ‘i did everything i could and now there’s no choice”

that would likely mean reconciliation for infrastructure and hope he holds the line on the originally $4T and tax increases (because there’s no point in sticking with any now abandoned R proposal since zero of them are gonna vote for it)

and going back to a talking filibuster on voting rights, police, DC ,etc

I’m willing to entertain that he’s the Last Dinosaur, although you would think he would have noticed the lack of any other remaining dinosaurs by now and not be sniffing around like a confused puppy.

I would also be quite happy if he is maneuvering himself out of his support for the filibuster, or possibly being maneuvered out of it, and most of the things he has said could be consistent with that. But this crap about “destroying the government”; where the fuck did he get that? It sounds like it came right out of the Turtle’s mouth.

Sinema seems to be some sort of pathological contrarian. The stunt with her curtsy voting against the increased minimum wage was disgusting: that could have made so many people’s lives so much better, and all she could manage was a flippant no. I’m thinking that she may be trying to be McCain II: the Mavericky Senator from Arizona, who gets all the attention and great press. She’s been a disaster at reading the room, but I think if she’s the last holdout she’d fold. Maybe.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 27, 2021 • 11:00:23am

re: #234 John Hughes

Why a duck?

“And you’ll duck soup the rest of your life.”

275
Dangerman  May 27, 2021 • 11:01:17am

Guess we gotta get used to this

Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R) “is hiring retired police officers to investigate aspects of the November election, joining with Republicans from around the country who have questioned President Joe Biden’s victory,” the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports. “Is there a whole lot of smoke or is there actual fire? We just don’t know yet,” Vos said.

No smoke
No fire
Just one big liar

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ipsos  May 27, 2021 • 11:02:28am

re: #262 Dangerman

she could lose to a D who could still win the general

Manchin cannot

All the Very Serious Pundits seem to have coalesced around the idea that Manchin is somehow this miraculous once-in-a-generation Democrat who can keep winning general elections in WV as a Democrat as long as he hews to some sort of magic right-of-center line.

I call bullshit on that. If Manchin were up for reelection in 2022, or if he’d been up in 2020, he’d lose to a Republican in the general, period. You’d have (or you’ll have) TFG and the Trumpsters out there pulling away all those mythical (and now probably dead) “moderates” who may still be registered as Dems for historical reasons, but who voted for Justice for governor and TFG for president. They’re not just going to send a Democrat (even Manchin) to the Senate because grandpa used to vote for Democrats and had a picture of JFK hanging above the fireplace. His percentage of the vote plummeted from 60% in 2012 to just under 50% in 2018, and WV isn’t getting bluer.

And when those West by god Virginians go to the polls in 2024 to vote for TFG or Junior or whoever the hell ends up as the R nominee, they’re not going to split the ticket then, either. The TV ads and social media and pronouncements from the pulpit will all be a constant drumbeat of how liberal Manchin is and how a vote for him is a vote for soshulism, and that’s going to be the case no matter how he votes on ANYTHING for the rest of this session while he still holds a little power. (It’s almost impossible to imagine that after the 2022 elections, he’s still going to be vote #50 for the Dems - either we do well and he’s a less-relevant vote #53 or 54 or 55, or we do worse and he’s vote #49 and still irrelevant.)

Manchin has to know this, deep down inside, which makes his weird attempts at self-preservation even weirder. He’s in his last three years in office, period. If he wants a legacy beyond 2024, he ought to try to become president of WVU or somesuch.

And yes, it’s a VERY different situation from Sinema, who just seems to be unable to read the room and see the very different way her state is shifting and the likelihood that she’ll be primaried in 2024 and lose.

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Scottish Dragon  May 27, 2021 • 11:04:56am

re: #248 Belafon

Edit: I applaud their use of the word massacre.

It was an organized pogrom. Also see Rosewood (1922), Ocoee (1920) and all of the events of the Red Summer of 1919. This was a confluence of law enforcement, local government and ad hoc militias engaging in ethnic cleansing.

278
VaughnIAM  May 27, 2021 • 11:05:36am

re: #263 🌹UOJB!

Benefits will stop only when he is convicted.

279
lawhawk  May 27, 2021 • 11:07:34am

re: #275 Dangerman

Guess we gotta get used to this

No smoke
No fire
Just one big liar

We don’t gotta get used to any of this.

These saboteurs and insurrectionist adjacents are intent on undermining legitimacy of elections because they will question any and all elections they do not win and cast them as illegitimate.

Trump signaled as much way back in 2017. He followed through in 2020. The GOP is all-in on this approach, because the GOP cannot win nationally without it - they can’t win the popular vote, and voter suppression is their best chance of retaining power in Congress and the state level.

They will use all the levers of power within their grasp to consolidate their power and refuse to relinquish it even after losing elections handily.

None of these elections were particularly close. None of the down-ballot races were in question. They seated themselves in Congress and the statehouses, even as they questioned Trump’s loss on the very same ballots.

Fuck all the GOP to Hell and then on through all the Planes of Hell. Tartarus isn’t good enough for them.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 27, 2021 • 11:10:57am

re: #265 gocart mozart

I did not know this existed.

Rob Thomas
@robt77
One thing I learned from CRUELLA is that Tina Turner once covered “Whole Lotta Love” and it’s incredible.

Tina Turner - Whole Lotta Love

The intro to Tina”s cover made me think of this:

The Temptations Papa Was A Rolling Stone 1972 Single Version


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