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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:00:48pm

That Gibson dreadnought sounds amazing.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:01:01pm

Figures. I CLed (PBUH) the pie post. Here’s the link.

littlegreenfootballs.com

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:04:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:05:40pm

I used to listen to Jackson Browne via my older sister’s albums, but when I went to see him on the “Running on Empty” tour with my sister I fell asleep. No drugs involved. It was just too slow and boring for my teenage self.

So thank you for posting these videos. In later years I’ve come to learn how integral he has been to American music in a low-key way. This one was especially good somehow. Thanks again.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:08:44pm

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:09:05pm

The cowards are getting dragged on every post they make.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:09:07pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:09:12pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:12:37pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

To be honest I think I made to the episode where baby Yoda was eating the eggs and then stopped. That may have been because I was working 10-12 hours days and then, well you know.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:17:03pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

In my opinion yes but one of the annoying things about the show is that it borrows heavily from the Star Wars: Clone Wars animated series so if you haven’t seen that you’ll be missing a fair bit of backstory on what is going on.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:22:55pm

Left for judgement of the members:

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teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:24:29pm

Flash flood has shut down Interstate 70 through Glenwood Canyon today, rained hard on the Grizzly Creek Fire burn scar, mud is seven feet deep on the highway at one spot. I drove through there yesterday.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:26:29pm

re: #141 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

My theory is any frozen store pizza is greatly improved by simply covering it with shredded Mozzarella.

It works.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:30:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I found the series very uneven.

Some episodes are definitely better than others.

Season 2 plot is more expansive, includes more types of characters.

re: #9 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

To be honest I think I made to the episode where baby Yoda was eating the eggs and then stopped.

Grogu. His name is Grogu. No evidence of any close relation of Yoda, though Disney could always retcon that in some future series.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:30:50pm

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My theory is any frozen store pizza is greatly improved by simply covering it with shredded Mozzarella.

It works.

I like a few more topping than they put on them as well as the added cheese. In this cake Parmesan. Would have used Mozzarella, but I am currently out.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:32:34pm

re: #14 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I found the series very uneven.

Some episodes are definitely better than others.

Season 2 plot is more expansive, includes more types of characters.

Grogu. His name is Grogu. No evidence of any close relation of Yoda, though Disney could always retcon that in some future series.

Picky, picky, picky :-)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:33:36pm

The kids are alright.

As Parents Forbid Covid Shots, Defiant Teenagers Seek Ways to Get Them (New York Times)

Most medical consent laws require parental permission for minors to get a vaccine. Now some places are easing restrictions for Covid shots while others are proposing new ones.

Teenagers keep all sorts of secrets from their parents. Drinking. Sex. Lousy grades.

But the secret that Elizabeth, 17, a rising high-school senior from New York City, keeps from hers is new to the buffet of adolescent misdeeds. She doesn’t want her parents to know that she is vaccinated against Covid-19.

Her divorced parents have equal say over her health care. Although her mother strongly favors the vaccine, her father angrily opposes it and has threatened to sue her mother if Elizabeth gets the shot. Elizabeth is keeping her secret not only from her father, but also her mother, so her mom can have plausible deniability. (Elizabeth asked to be identified only by her middle name.)

The vaccination of children is crucial to achieving broad immunity to the coronavirus and returning to normal school and work routines. But though Covid vaccines have been authorized for children as young as 12, many parents, worried about side effects and frightened by the newness of the shots, have held off from permitting their children to get them.

A recent poll by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that only three in 10 parents of children between the ages of 12 through 17 intended to allow them to be vaccinated immediately. Many say they will wait for long-term safety data or the prod of a school mandate. But with many teenagers eager to get shots that they see as unlocking freedoms denied during the pandemic, tensions are crackling in homes in which parents are holding to a hard no.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:40:30pm

And done. Will let it sit a bit to firm up before cutting. You can see the GASP! pineapple in this one. Evil laugh. :-)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:47:16pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Forty states restrict teenagers from getting vaccinations under the age of 18.

In Nebraska, the legal age for medical consent is 19.

Teenagers are having to hide their vaccination status from parents like they are atheists hiding their lack-of-faith, for fear of punishment (or worse).

A woman started a Website a couple years ago before this mess started, to help teenagers navigate their rights and the law, since ofttimes they know neither.

The site also lists the required vaccinations for schools and such, since teenagers ofttimes don’t know that either.

vaxteen.org

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:53:20pm

re: #19 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Medical consent age should be 16.

Change my mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:54:47pm

Anti-vaxxer who made a disgusting attack on the Make-a-Wish foundation over childhood vaccines gets her account restored to Twitter after appeal.

Vicious Babushka still banned for calling out Nazis.

Catie doubled down on her disgusting attack on the Make A Wish foundation… (Reddit/r/VaxxHappened)

She is a fookin’ lunatic. Recommend Mr. Johnson’s Automatic Blocking Function. (Is there an app for that? /s)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 6:57:26pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Medical consent age should be 16.

Change my mind.

Paediatricians generally note consent for vaccines should be around twelve. Most children by that age are able to understand the benefits and risks.

Part of the problem with the coronavirus vaccine is still the Emergency Use Authorisation. Doctors and medical firms are gun shy of being sued for vaccinating a minor without parental consent.

It also happens in Canada: Several years ago a British Columbia family found out a school vaccinated their teenage daughter without informing them, and sued the crap out of them.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:01:43pm

Gonna be interesting when a vaxx reluctant kid cant get into school.

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:02:52pm

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Medical consent age should be 16.

Change my mind.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:05:43pm

Another issue is generally a physician does not need parental consent from either parent in an emergency. If a procedure or a medication is immediately warranted, the law protects the physician.

There is a special carve-out for vaccines in many states either for religious or philosophical reasons. (Last time I checked, philosophy cured no disease ever.)

Some states like South Carolina are moving to prohibit requiring the coronavirus vaccine for school or other functions.

That EUA really needs to be converted to “approved.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:19:45pm

Since I seem to have killed the thread, I’ll just keep posting random stuff from Twitter or Reddit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:22:15pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:24:20pm

From Pro Publica:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:28:07pm

Los Angeles Times reporter.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:28:18pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

Skip it for now and watch Invincible on Prime. You’re welcome.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:29:37pm

So. Have the builders/contractors for the Miami high rise left the country yet? They. Are. Fucked.

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Dangerman  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:30:07pm

re: #27 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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not “insane workouts”
they are stunts
for the camera

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:33:15pm

Tucker Carlson had this guy on his show, after the Daily Mail lied about him.

Daily Mail spreading misinformation as always. This person *did not* invent mRNA vaccines. (Reddit/r/VaxxHappened)

He told Mr. Carlson young adults and teens should not get the vaccine.

Highest comment in the thread:

The person in question did not invent mRNA vaccines, he has not even had a single candidate in clinical trials. The only evidence for his claim is \his own website*, which now states he is the inventor of mRNA vaccines. Interestingly, if you check via Wayback Machine it only started claiming that after COVID vaccines became successful, before it claimed he invented “DNA vaccinations” (see: web.archive.org). His entire claim seems to stem from a single paper he co-authored in the 1990s which merely described the idea of using RNA.

He can also be found amongst those pushing unproven drug Ivermectin as alternative to vaccinations and miracle cure for COVID (see his tweet).

Several other medications, like ivermectin, carrimycin, and nitazoxanide, are claimed to treat COVID-19, but data regarding this effect lack scientific evidence (1).

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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jaunte  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:34:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:34:35pm

re: #31 GlutenFreeJesus

So. Have the builders/contractors for the Miami high rise left the country yet? They. Are. Fucked.

“Alexa, name non-extradition treaty countries.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:35:19pm

re: #34 jaunte

A spare piano arrangement? There are two? /s

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:36:33pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Alexa, name non-extradition treaty countries.”

Cuba is just a short swim away.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:38:56pm

re: #34 jaunte

If it’s your recommendation, I’ll listen. Tomorrow. I really don’t like David Crosby. I know how stupid that is, but hey. Anyway, I have to go to bed.*

*I may post again from my bed, but I have to go there to do that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:41:32pm

Good thing which happened at the store today: I snared a bottle of Sailor Jerry’s. No more drinking this awful paint thinner Military Special my wife bought at the Exchange.

Bad thing which happened at the store today (aside from being exposed to Covid by half the damn county): I won absolutely nothing in the Lotto.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:47:32pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 7:58:19pm

Review Site Trolls Are Targeting Restaurants That Ask for Proof of Vaccination (Food & Wine, June 14, 2021)

If you’ve recently visited Mother’s Ruin, a bar in Manhattan, and want to leave a review on Yelp, you’re out of luck right now. Any visitor to the bar’s Yelp page will see a pop-up advising them that they’ll need to “check back at a later date” in order to post their star rating. “This business recently received increased public attention, which often means people come to this page to post their views on the news,” the message from Yelp reads. “While we don’t take a stand one way or the other when it comes to this incident, we’ve temporarily disabled the posting of content to this page as we work to investigate the content you see here reflects actual consumer experiences rather than the recent event.”

The recent event that has caused everyone to pay attention to Mother’s Ruin-and for Internet randos to post their fictitious “experiences” there-was a sign that was placed outside the bar. The unassuming-looking signage read “Vaccinated Only” above an arrow pointing into the joint, and an arrow pointing toward outdoor seating for “Unvaccinated” customers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:05:35pm

Just to be clear, Canada closing the border doesn’t do a damn thing about their own morans.

Canadian antivaxxer Chris Sky says he’s prepared to die but he’d “rather take all of them with me first” (The Georgia Straight, Vancouver, BC)

One of Canada’s most famous antivaxxers has ramped up his rhetoric against government officials who’ve curtailed business activities to control the spread of COVID-19.

In an interview posted on the video-hosting service BitChute, Chris Sky said that he’s “so ready to die” for his beliefs.

“You think I want to live in the world they want to create?” Sky said. “I’d rather take them all with me first.”

Sky recently wrote a book called Just Say No, which is his manifesto against COVID-19 vaccines. Even though the number of infections has fallen sharply in many provinces since these immunizations were rolled out, Sky maintains on his Twitter feed that they don’t work.

“Yes, there’s no way I’m living in a frigging world with a vaccine passport,” Sky said in the interview. “There’s no way I’m living in a world where they can shut down my business at any time because they say so. No fucking way. And I think a lot of people around the world are ready to die for what they believe in, too. I mean, you know who’s not ready die?”

On May 20, Toronto Police Service announced five criminal charges against Sky, a.k.a. Chris Saccocia, including three counts of uttering death threats.

Police have alleged in court documents that he threatened to kill all the premiers in Canada, according to an article in the Toronto Sun. Police have cited a former associate of Sky’s, right-wing political activist Rob Carbone, as their source.

(more at the link)

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:05:51pm

2011: Top Engine 2000-Honda CR-V DOHC

Goofy early decade Samsung effect
I repaired burnt valve at by removing cylinder head at 103k and taking it to a machine shop who made it like new

I put everything together including new timing belt, water pump and head gasket using genuine Honda parts and it ran another 135k until a total from freeway debris

A great slow motion DIY process. Very gratifying to fire it up and have it run on take 1. Lessons learned: Garage space and Organization is important, cleanup is important, magnets can be your friend, aftermarket parts suck on Honda, if you’re fighting it you’re doing it wrong, and people like to hang out where work is being done even if they have no idea what’s going on

Photo is from midway through the repair process.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:11:01pm

re: #42 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Sky maintains on his Twitter feed that they don’t work.

Remember how Twitter said they would get rid of the Covid misinformation?

Yeah about this guy Sky or the antivax woman Catie above in re: #21, the same rule always applies.

Never get between a libertarian and his money.

Antivaxxers are a license to print money as far as Twitter is concerned. Twitter will equivocate (or flat out lie), but they will not remove the antivax information no matter how many times it’s reported or how many times they say they will. (Even if they wanted to, that would require hiring more moderators, then refer to “never get between a libertarian and his money.”)

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:20:16pm

re: #41 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I look at some 1 star reviews as negative endorsement: we were looking for Greek food in Palm Desert and a couple of 1 star reviews regarding the owners telling diners’ kids to be quiet. Hell yes we say. Now there was a 1 star we took seriously regarding salty avgolemeno soup so we asked for extra lemons to dose our soup. Left a 5 star review —food was excellent!

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sagehen  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:23:03pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

“Alexa, name non-extradition treaty countries.”

Russia, China, and Mongolia.
Brunei.
The Gulf States.
Montenegro.
Eastern Europe: Ukraine and Moldova.
South-East Asia: Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos.
Island Nations: Maldives, Vanuatu, and Indonesia.
Africa: Ethiopia, Botswana, and Tunisia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:24:33pm

Timelapse of yesterday’s eruption:

Overview timelapse June 26th 2021, Geldingadalir Volcano, Iceland

I usually post the “close up” view, but that camera seems to have gone offline yesterday. So this is the “overview” camera. It is farther away, which means seeing less, but also less deception by perspective.

This camera is looking northwest. The close up camera was located on that hill which is on the left side of your screen, and that camera was situated so it was slightly below the rim of the volcano.

That camera also gave a sense of the rivers of lava flowing into Geldingadalir valley, which is on the west side of hill.

Even though the bright daylight in the middle of the day makes seeing the lava difficult, if from your fiew you see where the hill intersects the built of lava shield you can see a steady stream of lava flowing southwest into Geldingadalir.

Low clouds come in at the end and creates a white-out condition.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:26:09pm

re: #45 So Cal Greek Hippie

I look at some 1 star reviews as negative endorsement: we were looking for Greek food in Palm Desert and a couple of 1 star reviews regarding the owners telling diners’ kids to be quiet. Hell yes we say. Now there was a 1 star we took seriously regarding salty avgolemeno soup so we asked for extra lemons to dose our soup. Left a 5 star review —food was excellent!

Our one restaurant (the Starr Street Diner) has no reviews.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:30:16pm

Suns/ Clippers down to 2 mins. Neck and neck Suns. Good Sportsball here.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:36:14pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:39:27pm

re: #50 Belafon

The cruelty is the point.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:42:24pm
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JC1  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:43:30pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

Don’t know. I gave up after 6.

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A Cranky One  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:53:17pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:54:09pm

Good luck with that, Prime Minister.

Trudeau says Pope should apologize on Canadian soil for church’s role in residential schools (Reuters)

OTTAWA, June 25 (Reuters) - Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Friday he has asked the pope to come to Canada to apologize for the Catholic Church’s role running residential schools for indigenous children, after nearly 1,000 bodies were found in two mass graves.

“I have spoken personally directly with His Holiness Pope Francis to press upon him how important it is not just that he makes an apology but that he makes an apology to indigenous Canadians on Canadian soil,” Trudeau told reporters in Ottawa.

“I know that the Catholic church leadership is looking and very actively engaged in what next steps can be taken.”

Next steps? Moving anyone who is still alive and responsible. Spending vast sums of money to fight off victims. Pressing people harder for bigger donations to Peter’s Pence.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:55:17pm

re: #54 A Cranky One

That pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 8:59:27pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

The cruelty is the point.

He had to leave Surfside early so he could make sure to be back in time to sign his university political vetting bill and get on television.

Priorities.

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Belafon  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:01:01pm

re: #51 Eclectic Cyborg

The cruelty is the point.

What’s a few residents of Florida compared to keeping illegals out of the country.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:04:24pm

Last night, The Satanic Temple’s spokesperson Lucien Greaves issued this statement about the planned event and why they chose this particular monument:

It is important to note that our acceptance of the Satanization of the Bladensburg Cross is a narrow ruling on the part of The Satanic Temple in response to the unique circumstances surrounding this particular monument and is not a blanket acceptance of religious monuments which indicate one particular viewpoint disingenuously said to convey a secular, inclusive message.

To put it bluntly, we find it rather bizarre and somewhat hilarious that theocratic activists hailed a ruling allowing the cross to stand, even as that ruling explicitly stripped the cross of any religious context, robbed it of sacred purpose, and imbued it with mixed religious meaning, which is surely nothing short of blasphemy to any serious practitioners of the Christian faith.

So go ahead and celebrate that the cross remains on public grounds blissfully ignorant to what you have lost. As Satanism is a religion that truly values pluralism and inclusiveness, the codified and judicially affirmed redefinition of the Bladensburg Cross in particular makes it more Satanic than Christian.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:09:04pm

Fwiw, The song “The Weight” is a combination of Southern (Arkansas) small town and surrealism all moved to Nazarath Pa. Nazarath, besides having the biblical name is also home of the Martin Guitar Factory and Museum.

From wiki:

The colorful characters in “The Weight” were based on real people that members of The Band knew, as Levon Helm explained in his autobiography, This Wheel’s on Fire. In particular, “young Anna Lee” mentioned in the third verse is Helm’s longtime friend Anna Lee Amsden, and, according to her, “Carmen” was from Helm’s hometown, Turkey Scratch, Arkansas. “Crazy Chester” was an eccentric resident of Fayetteville, Arkansas, who carried a cap gun. Ronnie Hawkins would tell him to “keep the peace” at his Rockwood Club when Chester arrived.

According to Robertson, “The Weight” was inspired by the movies of Spanish filmmaker Luis Buñuel. Buñuel’s films are known for their surreal imagery and criticism of organized religion, particularly Catholicism. The song’s lyrics and music invoke vivid imagery, the main character’s perspective is influenced by the Bible, and the episodic story was inspired by the predicaments Buñuel’s film characters faced that undermined their goals for maintaining or improving their moral character. Of this, Robertson once stated:

(Buñuel) did so many films on the impossibility of sainthood. People trying to be good in Viridiana and Nazarín, people trying to do their thing. In “The Weight” it’s the same thing. People like Buñuel would make films that had these religious connotations to them but it wasn’t necessarily a religious meaning. In Buñuel there were these people trying to be good and it’s impossible to be good. In “The Weight” it was this very simple thing. Someone says, “Listen, would you do me this favour? When you get there will you say ‘hello’ to somebody or will you give somebody this or will you pick up one of these for me? Oh? You’re going to Nazareth, that’s where the Martin guitar factory is. Do me a favour when you’re there.” This is what it’s all about. So the guy goes and one thing leads to another and it’s like “Holy shit, what’s this turned into? I’ve only come here to say ‘hello’ for somebody and I’ve got myself in this incredible predicament.” It was very Buñuelish to me at the time.[18]

en.wikipedia.org

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:19:44pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Ha! Bladensburg Maryland. Currently a ‘burb of Washington DC.

Site of a battle in August 1814 when the Maryland militia tried to stop a veteran regular British force on its way to capture Washington DC. The militia were unsuccessful in a rather dramatic way. The result was a rout of US forces that was described as the “Bladensburg Races”.

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sagehen  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:19:58pm

So I’m actually watching Maher… and OMG is he fucked up about Covid.

“It only killed 1%, why do people panic and lockdown…”

It only killed 1% BECAUSE we locked down. It slowed the spread enough that hospitals could keep up. There were enough beds, enough vents, etc… without the lockdowns, we’d look like India.

Sort of like “Y2K was no big deal, why did people make such a fuss?” It was no big deal BECAUSE people made such a fuss, because a bazillion people took action and prevented it being such a big deal.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:21:20pm
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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:23:08pm

re: #62 sagehen

So basically, he was implying it only killed the ‘little people’, not rich, important TV personalities like him. What a f*cking narcissistic sociopathic blowhard.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:24:31pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was getting a little confused so checked through google and learned that there are two separate Satan based “religions”, neither one of which believes in Satan: The Satanic Temple and the Church of Satan. Your posting involved the first organization which was established in 2013; the second was founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, a fan of Ayn Rand.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:25:24pm

Did Melania show up with Trump tonight?

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:37:29pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

I was getting a little confused so checked through google and learned that there are two separate Satan based “religions”, neither one of which believes in Satan: The Satanic Temple and the Church of Satan. Your posting involved the first organization which was established in 2013; the second was founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, a fan of Ayn Rand.

The lady I currently date is formally trained as a Chaplain and does volunteer work at several hospitals. She occasionally talks about issues she encounters.

She has had to identify and call in chaplains from various different Pagan religions. I guess that I am naive, I had not realized that there were any, let alone such a variety.

At one point a Japanese family had their son pass away and she had to identify which Buddhist division they were aligned with. She was able to do so and arrange for the appropriate Chaplain to assist them.

I do not think that she has had any requests for Satanists, though.

I do need to ask her about the protocol if an atheist requests assistance generally associated with Chaplains.

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sagehen  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:37:47pm

re: #64 ckkatz

So basically, he was implying it only killed the ‘little people’, not rich, important TV personalities like him. What a f*cking narcissistic sociopathic blowhard.

He also brought up how “curable” it is because look what happened with Trump’s case… ignoring that all that drugs that saved Trump were only just invented. That very week, in fact. And he got $200,000 worth of care.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:41:52pm

re: #68 sagehen

He also brought up how “curable” it is because look what happened with Trump’s case… ignoring that all that drugs that saved Trump were only just invented. That very week, in fact. And he got $200,000 worth of care.

Sheesh, does he have any socially redeeming features? He and his staff cannot collectively be that stupid. So I guess that I got to go with callous.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:53:27pm

re: #65 Hecuba’s daughter

I was getting a little confused so checked through google and learned that there are two separate Satan based “religions”, neither one of which believes in Satan: The Satanic Temple and the Church of Satan. Your posting involved the first organization which was established in 2013; the second was founded in 1966 by Anton LaVey, a fan of Ayn Rand.

The Satanic Temple is the organisation which asserts religious rights for secular purposes. They are organised as a church, but unlike Christian churches, they pay taxes even though they are not required to.

Amongst other things, when Christian privilege asserts itself in the public square, they will come roaring in to assert the religious rights (or rites) of others.

In the case of the Bladensberg Cross case, the cross is a monument put up on public land to honour war dead.

Non-Christians took a case all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States, arguing that the cross is an explicitly religious symbol, supported with tax money, and therefor a violation of the Establishment Clause.

The Supreme Court ruled that the cross, due to being there for a long time, did not represent a particular religion.

Now, since the Court has claimed the cross has no religious purpose (despite being a Latin Cross, the very execution device of a religion), The Satanic Temple is going to rededicate the cross to Satan and Satanists who fell serving in the Armed Forces.

Should the Christians who cheered on the idea of keeping the cross up on public land come out and object “that’s a Christian symbol, you can’t do that!” then the Satanic Temple (along with the ACLU which was involved in the original case) can go back to the Supreme Court and show that it is in fact a religious symbol.

The Satanic Temple also holds abortion as a sacred rite. Although they lost a religious freedom case in Missouri over that, they are trying again to get Texas’s oppressive abortion laws struck down under the state Religious Freedom Act. That case is pending in the Texas courts.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:55:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:55:10pm

re: #69 ckkatz

Sheesh, does he have any socially redeeming features? He and his staff cannot collectively be that stupid. So I guess that I got to go with callous.

Go with “libertarian.”

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 9:57:41pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Go with “libertarian.”

True, that behavior would certainly fit with the “I got mine. F*ck You” school of Libertarianism.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:03:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:06:10pm
An anonymous member of The Satanic Temple, which is a self-described national atheistic religious group based in Massachusetts, recently sued Texas health officials in federal court.

The plaintiff, who according to the lawsuit lives “at least 100 miles from the nearest abortion clinic” in Houston, is challenging the state’s mandatory sonogram requirement for an abortion, as well as the mandatory 24-hour waiting period following the sonogram.

Lucien Greaves, the co-founder and spokesperson for The Satanic Temple, said the state’s regulations “interrupt” the group’s own ritual for women who receive abortions, which he said is akin to a ritualized counseling process aimed at eliminating shame and guilt for the person receiving the procedure.

“It’s something that’s an affirmation and meant to make somebody feel comfortable and secure with their decision,” he said.

Greaves said the state’s laws also run afoul of two of The Satanic Temple’s seven tenets, which include that “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone,” and “beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world [and] one should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.”

Greaves said the state’s required sonograms, which he believes are medically unnecessary, are “an imposition upon [The Satanic Temple’s] religious liberty and religious practice.”

The group, which in the lawsuit describes itself as “a nontheistic branch of Satanism,” has also filed lawsuits in Missouri challenging its abortion restrictions.

(more at KUT radio, Austin’s NPR station)

The case is filed in federal district court in Houston. Texas has moved to have the court dismiss the case on the grounds of lack of standing on the free exercise clause of the I Amendment, and that Texas law is not in conflict with Planned Parenthood v Casey, on June 1.

The Satanic Temple Sues Texas Over Abortion Regulations It Argues Infringe On Members’ Religious Beliefs (February 19, 2021)

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:06:33pm

Currently listening to Keb Mo

Youtube Video

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A Cranky One  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:09:47pm

I’ll be having nightmares tonight.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:10:41pm

re: #67 ckkatz

At one point a Japanese family had their son pass away and she had to identify which Buddhist division they were aligned with. She was able to do so and arrange for the appropriate Chaplain to assist them.

My first guess would’ve been Jōdo Shinshū, then Jōdo Shū, then Tendai.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:18:37pm

re: #78 Dr Lizardo

My first guess would’ve been Jōdo Shinshū, then Jōdo Shū, then Tendai.

You certainly have a far better grasp of the Japanese Buddhist world than I do. Sounds like some interesting stories may be involved.

I actually do not remember. But what impressed me was that the Hospital actually had a contact list that included pastors in the appropriate division who were local and available.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:20:49pm

re: #77 A Cranky One

Isn’t that entire thing supposed to be hidden under raised flooring? Preferably scattered across several rooms… :)

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Targetpractice  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:24:16pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Go with “libertarian.”

More “glibertarian.” As in the “self-made” douchebag variety who thinks that being personally inconvenienced makes him a “victim” rather than all the people who are actually suffering.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:25:07pm

re: #67 ckkatz

I do need to ask her about the protocol if an atheist requests assistance generally associated with Chaplains.

At the Cheyenne VA, the chaplain will normally ask if there is something they can do for you or your friends and family, or if there is someone you would like to contact.

When my wife went in for surgery in Oklahoma, someone in the administration department changed the entry on her intake form from “atheist” to “Baptist.”

When a Southern Baptist pastor came round to pray with her when she was recovering from surgery, she went bananas.

It wasn’t really the pastor’s fault: He just goes through the intake forms and identifies Christians. The form had been changed and he didn’t know.

When my wife told me about it, I went down to the administration department and chewed butt for about fifteen minutes. They refused to change the entry. It took a threat to sue to get them to change it back.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:38:37pm

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

At the Cheyenne VA, the chaplain will normally ask if there is something they can do for you or your friends and family, or if there is someone you would like to contact.

When my wife went in for surgery in Oklahoma, someone in the administration department changed the entry on her intake form from “atheist” to “Baptist.”

When a Southern Baptist pastor came round to pray with her when she was recovering from surgery, she went bananas.

It wasn’t really the pastor’s fault: He just goes through the intake forms and identifies Christians. The form had been changed and he didn’t know.

When my wife told me about it, I went down to the administration department and chewed butt for about fifteen minutes. They refused to change the entry. It took a threat to sue to get them to change it back.

So sorry that your lady, and you, had to deal with that. Sounds like you did the right thing. And as you note, it sounds like the pastor, as a human, was just trying to be helpful. Even though there are many folks who are not really interested in that particular help.

As you mention, I also understand that someone from the Chaplain’s department usually comes by, non-denominationally, to see if there is anything they can do to help. And to identify what of their resources would be best.

Beyond, religious support, they can often help with other issues. Often times the doctors and specialists are basically ‘parts workers’. If it doesn’t involve their specialty, they are not of much help. The nurses often provide a more general overview of how the patient and family are doing. But the chaplain can sometimes provide an alternative pathway to the appropriate folks if there is a medical or administrative issue falls through the cracks.

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Teukka  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:39:24pm

re: #77 A Cranky One

I’ll be having nightmares tonight.

You want even worse nightmares?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:42:57pm

re: #83 ckkatz

Chaplains can provide all sorts of resources to an atheist, such as connexions to support groups, suggestions for community resources, &c (pretty much the same thing they would do outside of a religious context for a religious patient).

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 10:54:41pm

re: #85 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And, if an atheistic patient’s family hasn’t disowned them, the chaplain can provide spiritual counselling to the family members as well.

My encounters with VA and military chaplains have been all positive.

When I first checked in to NAS Oceana, going through the command indoctrination classes where the senior leadership introduce themselves and tell about what their duties are, one of those was the Command Chaplain.

He introduced himself by saying he would break the ice with a joke. “What’s the difference between a fairy tale and a sea story?”

One begins “Once upon a time” and the other begins “No shit!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:00:27pm

re: #84 Teukka

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:03:51pm

Police Called To Stop ‘Exorcism’ Happening In Pa. Home Depot (CBS Pittsburgh)

DICKSON CITY, Pa. (KDKA) — People don’t normally associate the words “Home Depot” and “exorcism” together, but that’s exactly what was happening in a Home Depot in Lackawanna County, according to police.

The Dickson City Police Department said around 3:30 p.m. on June 21, they responded to people holding an exorcism in an aisle at a Home Depot on Commerce Boulevard.

Police added that the ritual was in the lumber aisle, and the demonstrators were doing it for “the dead trees.”

(more, with video report)

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:03:57pm

Keb Mo - The old me better

The Old Me Better

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Cheechako  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:05:51pm

re: #77 A Cranky One

Somewhere there’s a person who built that arrangement and knows what each and every connection is associated with. And they do not know how valuable they are to the company.

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ckkatz  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:14:45pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And, if an atheistic patient’s family hasn’t disowned them, the chaplain can provide spiritual counselling to the family members as well.

My encounters with VA and military chaplains have been all positive.

When I first checked in to NAS Oceana, going through the command indoctrination classes where the senior leadership introduce themselves and tell about what their duties are, one of those was the Command Chaplain.

He introduced himself by saying he would break the ice with a joke. “What’s the difference between a fairy tale and a sea story?”

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I was kind of curious about your thoughts on Chaplains and how they can be of help rather than hindrance. Your story about the Navy Chaplains shows that the smart ones learned and managed. Those who didn’t learn, I suspect, were riffed fairly quickly.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:27:54pm

re: #91 ckkatz

I was kind of curious about your thoughts on Chaplains and how they can be of help rather than hindrance. Your story about the Navy Chaplains shows that the smart ones learned and managed. Those who didn’t learn, I suspect, were riffed fairly quickly.

The roll of a chaplain is of course spiritual guidance, but it is also morale.

Although there have been douchecanoe chaplains (notably Gordon Klingenschmitt, which autocorrect wants to change his last name to a German fighter aircraft), mostly because you can find douchecanoes in all professions, I’ve never run into one.

People from all religions and none have served in the US Armed Forces all the way back to the Revolution, so the Chaplaincy has a long tradition of trying to serve all people’s needs. They don’t always get it right, but usually that happens because people sometimes make mistakes or lack knowledge.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:36:18pm

Chaplains also get a rather thankless duty, which I first learned about when I was seven; coming to the home of a fallen member of the Armed Forces to inform the family their family member was killed in combat.

Like in other situations, besides delivering that awful news, the chaplain is there to offer the family spiritual guidance (if they want that), and help navigating military and civilian programmes to help the family in the aftermath of that loss.

Even in the tiny Michigan town I spent most of my childhood in, I instantly knew what it meant when I saw the black Navy staff car pulling up in front of our house.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 26, 2021 • 11:55:34pm

I’m going to mosey off to bed. It should be warmer there.

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Targetpractice  Jun 27, 2021 • 12:11:55am

This seems to be the growing consensus over Friday’s freakouts by Senate Repubs:

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2021 • 12:19:47am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 27, 2021 • 12:26:09am

Schrodinger’s Cat-toast.

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2021 • 12:57:56am

God damn fucking privileged asshole golf groups. And I have 2 of them this weekend. Feh. That’s all just needed a quick grump

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 27, 2021 • 1:00:20am
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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 1:07:08am

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2021 • 1:44:07am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2021 • 1:49:03am

re: #92 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I hope you noticed the prologue.

This is the test given to 16 year olds.

In America, 16 year olds are in 10th grade. They likely have never had a physics class (which is usually in 12th grade in the US, perhaps 11th grade.)

It has often been remarked how low achieving US schools are when compared to many nations, as far as the last sequences in standard education.

British system teaches more, expects more. Then if one wants they can get their first college level degree a couple of years younger than many Americans.

We waste our youth.

We really do.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:24:30am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

Maybe I was expecting too much but I’m not too impressed with “The Mandalorian” so far. Visual effects are nice but the plot feels kinda skimpy. Four episodes in. Does it get better?

final two episodes are exciting and high-energy, right up there with the best stuff from the Star Wars series, but overall, it is kinda draggy and more of a sci-fi Western.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:25:27am

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My theory is any frozen store pizza is greatly improved by simply covering it with shredded Mozzarella.

It works.

I see it as the pizza equivalent of ramen noodles: meant to be customized.

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Targetpractice  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:26:53am

If I had a nickel for every series I’ve been told to check out with the caveat “It starts slow, but it gets better later!”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:28:09am

re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think The Bad Batch is better.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:35:52am

re: #70 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Should the Christians who cheered on the idea of keeping the cross up on public land come out and object “that’s a Christian symbol, you can’t do that!” then the Satanic Temple (along with the ACLU which was involved in the original case) can go back to the Supreme Court and show that it is in fact a religious symbol.

So they are there to remind Christians that they can’t have it both ways…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 2:40:11am

re: #103 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It has often been remarked how low achieving US schools are when compared to many nations, as far as the last sequences in standard education.

British system teaches more, expects more. Then if one wants they can get their first college level degree a couple of years younger than many Americans.

We waste our youth.

We really do.

Especially since the Reagan Era, we have come to look on Education as just another expense to be minimized to increase the bottom line.

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:07:06am

re: #48 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Our one restaurant (the Starr Street Diner) has no reviews.

obviously no one’s ever eaten there

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:13:12am

re: #69 ckkatz

Sheesh, does he have any socially redeeming features? He and his staff cannot collectively be that stupid. So I guess that I got to go with callous.

it’s lying.
just done more subtly.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:29:39am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:32:12am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:46:19am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:24:12am

re: #113 Dave In Austin

Oh fuck off you manipulative hamster.

His mother was a hamster and his father reeked of elder-r-r-r-r-rberries

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:27:48am

re: #115 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Oh fuck off you manipulative hamster.

His mother was a hamster and his father reeked of elder-r-r-r-r-rberries

I used that the other day and the mods at Wisconsin Public Radio deleted my comment. Fortunately the Foghorn Leghorn based insults still get allowed.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:33:36am

re: #116 William Lewis

I used that the other day and the mods at Wisconsin Public Radio deleted my comment. Fortunately the Foghorn Leghorn based insults still get allowed.

dumber than a bag of hammers, they are…

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William Lewis  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:49:09am

re: #117 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

dumber than a bag of hammers, they are…

Yep, sharp as a bowling ball.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:55:23am

re: #118 William Lewis

Yep, sharp as a bowling ball.

sharp as a pound of wet liver

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:34:23am

Two high-ranking Trump political appointees at the Environmental Protection Agency arranged for a pair of agency employees to reap tens of thousands of dollars in salaries even after they were fired,” Politico reports.

“The improper payments were directed by former chief of staff Ryan Jackson and carried out by former White House liaison Charles Munoz, and totaled almost $38,000.”

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:37:37am

Also, on the Florida Condo Collapse, check out the 2018 report, it says that beams and columns were spalling and rebar was visible. And a next-of-kin to two of those confirmed killed in the collapse had seen the rebar sticking out long before the collapse.
And the Condo Association had spent 3 years trying to wriggle out of the at least $10 mn repair bill, which, listen to this, according to the 2018 report, should be done in a timely fashion.
Next, google Sampoong Department Store Collapse “spalling”. Next google similar collapses with the keyword ”spalling” (quotes around spalling to force search to include the word). Then you realize how serious a warning spalling of concrete in load bearing beams, slabs and columns is…
I sniff a criminal case regarding criminal neglicence and related homicide. Well, if you’d have a criminal system that worked in the state, that is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:39:34am

re: #121 Teukka

Also, on the Florida Condo Collapse, check out the 2018 report, it says that beams and columns were spalling and rebar was visible. And a next-of-kin to two of those confirmed killed in the collapse had seen the rebar sticking out long before the collapse.
And the Condo Association had spent 3 years trying to wriggle out of the at least $10 mn repair bill, which, listen to this, according to the 2018 report, should be done in a timely fashion.
Next, google Sampoong Department Store Collapse “spalling”. Next google similar collapses with the keyword ”spalling” (quotes around spalling to force search to include the word).
I sniff a criminal case regarding criminal neglicence and related homicide. Well, if you’d have a criminal system that worked in the state, that is.

Maybe the condo association was hoping that if they just stuck it out long enough, they wouldn’t have to worry about it.

And they were right. /s

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:40:24am

Two months after Republican congressional candidate Derrick Van Orden lost his 2020 race, he joined “stop the steal” rioters on the grounds of the U.S. Capitol—and he paid for the trip with donor money left over from his failed campaign,” the Daily Beast reports.

“Now Van Orden is running again, and has already scored major endorsements from senior GOP House leadership, including Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA).”

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:40:53am

re: #121 Teukka

Side note, the Condo association I rent from discovered spalling in the concrete slab roof above one of our basements. They put every non-vital investment on hold and had the old one torn down and a new slab poured. A matter of months. And it wasn’t even load-bearing…

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:44:14am
“My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time. If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bullshit.”

— Former Attorney General William Barr, quoted by The Atlantic, on former President Donald Trump’s claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election

Too little too late

Shoulda said it at the time. Profiles in courage and all.

Ps won’t help your career rehab nohow

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:44:17am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Maybe the condo association was hoping that if they just stuck it out long enough, they wouldn’t have to worry about it.

And they were right. /s

That “/s” (if it was the 2018 engineering firm “/s”) likely did the “/s” equivent of the joke in this here GIF, eh?

Giphy

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:52:00am

re: #122 Dr Lizardo

Maybe the condo association was hoping that if they just stuck it out long enough, they wouldn’t have to worry about it.

And they were right. /s

I think a lot if Florida condo boards are filled with people who act like they’ll be gone before whatever it is becomes a “real” a problem. Meantime keep costs and fees as low as possible.

You know like Rs and national infrastructure

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:53:30am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 5:58:49am

re: #128 Dangerman

MTG is a closeted lesbian who is secretly smitten by AOC and tries to hide the pain of rejection by lashing out against the object of her affection.

Why aren’t the mainstream networks reporting on this?

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Sufficient unto the day...  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:02:30am

re: #129 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Always have some ready, just in case…
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:05:32am

AOC is the object of so much attention because she is urban, ethnic, educated and, well, hot.

But unavailable. And that gets the GOP upset and uncomfortable under the collar. They are used to having their way with women.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:07:48am

re: #127 Dangerman

I think a lot if Florida condo boards are filled with people who act like they’ll be gone before whatever it is becomes a “real” a problem. Meantime keep costs and fees as low as possible.

You know like Rs and national infrastructure

When the firm that did the 2018 report said “must be fixed in a timely fashion”, they most likely meant “Y’all, when you get this here report, y’all begin preparing for the fix, mmmmkay?

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:21:58am

re: #121 Teukka

Also, on the Florida Condo Collapse, check out the 2018 report, it says that beams and columns were spalling and rebar was visible. And a next-of-kin to two of those confirmed killed in the collapse had seen the rebar sticking out long before the collapse.
And the Condo Association had spent 3 years trying to wriggle out of the at least $10 mn repair bill, which, listen to this, according to the 2018 report, should be done in a timely fashion.
Next, google Sampoong Department Store Collapse “spalling”. Next google similar collapses with the keyword “spalling” (quotes around spalling to force search to include the word). Then you realize how serious a warning spalling of concrete in load bearing beams, slabs and columns is…
I sniff a criminal case regarding criminal neglicence and related homicide. Well, if you’d have a criminal system that worked in the state, that is.

Two videos on why concrete needs rebar and some stress tests which shows the failure mode:

What is Concrete?

Why Concrete Needs Reinforcement

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:25:39am

re: #133 Teukka

Two videos on why concrete needs rebar and some stress tests which shows the failure mode:

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So there’s really a height limit to concrete as a load bearing material.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:25:39am

re: #127 Dangerman

I think a lot if Florida condo boards are filled with people who act like they’ll be gone before whatever it is becomes a “real” a problem. Meantime keep costs and fees as low as possible.

You know like Rs and national infrastructure

Yep….always trying to do things on the cheap, not stopping to realize that in the long run, it costs far more to cheap it out rather than invest the money to do it right. And in this tragic instance, that cost was human lives.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:29:24am

re: #134 Belafon

So there’s really a height limit to concrete as a load bearing material.

Yep, you move from simply reinforced concrete to a steel plate encased reinforced concrete structure for pillars, for example (method was used in the construction the super pillars of Taipei 101).

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:30:46am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Yep….always trying to do things on the cheap, not stopping to realize that in the long run, it costs far more to cheap it out rather than invest the money to do it right. And in this tragic instance, that cost was human lives.

It’s scary how many times accidents in history up until now have been caused by lack or neglect of timely service. Like the title of an episode of “Air Crash Investigation” said:
“Service and Survive”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:31:51am

re: #134 Belafon

So there’s really a height limit to concrete as a load bearing material.

I live in a 13-storey panelák - made up of interlocking pre-stressed concrete panels.

Panelák
Panelák heaven
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:37:21am
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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:38:06am
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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:39:55am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Yep….always trying to do things on the cheap, not stopping to realize that in the long run, it costs far more to cheap it out rather than invest the money to do it right. And in this tragic instance, that cost was human lives.

Generally its other peoples lives
Maybe not so much in this case

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:39:58am

The writer doesn’t really understand that rejection of the vaccines has nothing to do with mRNA, or J&J would be in more demand:

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jeffreyw  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:41:42am

Good morning!

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:41:43am

re: #137 Teukka

It’s scary how many times accidents in history up until now have been caused by lack or neglect of timely service. Like the title of an episode of “Air Crash Investigation” said:
“Service and Survive”

That cable car crash 2 months or so ago

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nines09  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:44:15am

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:46:21am
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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:48:52am

re: #140 Belafon

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Hey coach,

You make em wash their uniforms?

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JOE 🥓  Jun 27, 2021 • 6:51:53am

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Chaplains also get a rather thankless duty, which I first learned about when I was seven; coming to the home of a fallen member of the Armed Forces to inform the family their family member was killed in combat.

Like in other situations, besides delivering that awful news, the chaplain is there to offer the family spiritual guidance (if they want that), and help navigating military and civilian programmes to help the family in the aftermath of that loss.

Even in the tiny Michigan town I spent most of my childhood in, I instantly knew what it meant when I saw the black Navy staff car pulling up in front of our house.

They didn’t come to my apartment. A Marine came to my workplace without a chaplain based on instructions from the mother. My reply was “I’m not surprised. He chose to do that and thank you for letting me know that I’m not welcome at the funeral. Oh don’t salute. Just get the fuck out of my sight.”

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teleskiguy  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:14:21am

He made possibly the strangest presidential campaign ad ever.

Mike Gravel - Rock -

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:21:30am

re: #138 Dr Lizardo

I live in a 13-storey panelák - made up of interlocking pre-stressed concrete panels.

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Speaking of Paneláks, that construction method was used in the Ronan Point Tower, which subsequently collapsed partially due to a gas accident. When one of its sibling towers were dismantled in the 90’s (I believe), they found that the builders had cheated on the sibling tower, sticking empty concrete bags and trash where you should be filling concrete, etc. It is very likely that the same was the case with Ronan Point, which, if memory serves me right, was built by the same contractor.
TL;DR what may have caused the collapse wasn’t the gas explosion, but shoddy work from the contractor…

You can build tall buildings with concrete, it’s just that building according to spec and with attention to detail throughout the building and design process is a non-negotiable requirement…

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:24:20am

re: #144 Dangerman

That cable car crash 2 months or so ago

Yep. Before that, the airplane N963AS (Air Alaska 261). And before that, the airplane N110AA (American Airlines 191). And many, many, many more.

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:38:37am

re: #112 Dave In Austin

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:45:15am

re: #124 Teukka

Side note, the Condo association I rent from discovered spalling in the concrete slab roof above one of our basements. They put every non-vital investment on hold and had the old one torn down and a new slab poured. A matter of months. And it wasn’t even load-bearing…

They addressed it promptly because they aren’t Americans and the building was not in the United States and, especially, not in Florida. Deferring essential expenditures is the name of the game here. The Ayn Rand capitalism that infects this nation poisons every decision.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:47:20am

re: #96 Targetpractice

Watch those pesky Romulan politicians on Star Trek the Next Generation to gain a sense of the current day Republican Party tactics, attitudes and horrible fashion sense

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:49:57am

re: #142 Belafon

The writer doesn’t really understand that rejection of the vaccines has nothing to do with mRNA, or J&J would be in more demand:

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There are people who were against the mRNA vaccines but not against vaccines in general. Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying were on Bill Maher months ago. She expressed concern that the mRNA vaccines were rushed to market without sufficient experience (they are the first mRNA vaccines), but made it clear that she had no problem with the others that were available at that time.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 7:56:59am

re: #153 Hecuba’s daughter

They addressed it promptly because they aren’t Americans and the building was not in the United States and, especially, not in Florida. Deferring essential expenditures is the name of the game here. The Ayn Rand capitalism that infects this nation poisons every decision.

My condolences (not /S)…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:01:43am

Renovation news. Scroll over if not interested.

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nines09  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:03:57am

Now I’m hungry….

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ericblair  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:04:20am

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

There are people who were against the mRNA vaccines but not against vaccines in general. Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying were on Bill Maher months ago. She expressed concern that the mRNA vaccines were rushed to market without sufficient experience (they are the first mRNA vaccines), but made it clear that she had no problem with the others that were available at that time.

And, of course, how do we get “experience” with the vaccines? By other people using them; there’s no other way, since that’s the only way to interpret “experience”. So, they are waiting for other people to do what they have said is too dangerous for their precious selves, while the pandemic continues and we need as many people vaccinated as possible.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:13:47am

re: #159 ericblair

And, of course, how do we get “experience” with the vaccines? By other people using them; there’s no other way, since that’s the only way to interpret “experience”. So, they are waiting for other people to do what they have said is too dangerous for their precious selves, while the pandemic continues and we need as many people vaccinated as possible.

But they were willing to take other vaccines. I think it was AstraZeneca that she explicitly mentioned.

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Jay C  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:19:46am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Yep….always trying to do things on the cheap, not stopping to realize that in the long run, it costs far more to cheap it out rather than invest the money to do it right. And in this tragic instance, that cost was human lives.

Lengthy disquisition on condominiums behind tags.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:21:29am

re: #103 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I hope you noticed the prologue.

This is the test given to 16 year olds.

In America, 16 year olds are in 10th grade. They likely have never had a physics class (which is usually in 12th grade in the US, perhaps 11th grade.)

It has often been remarked how low achieving US schools are when compared to many nations, as far as the last sequences in standard education.

British system teaches more, expects more. Then if one wants they can get their first college level degree a couple of years younger than many Americans.

We waste our youth.

We really do.

What are you talking about? This is physics I learned in middle school in 8th grade.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:21:29am
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ericblair  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:23:39am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

But they were willing to take other vaccines. I think it was AstraZeneca that she explicitly mentioned.

Bully for them. So no new vaccines, though, because they will only use vaccines that have “experience”, which means other people have to use them, which means that those people will be using vaccines without “experience”, which is bad.

This is a classic free rider problem, because of course everyone else is supposed to do the supposedly dangerous thing for them to feel safe. It’s one thing if it’s an elective procedure, but this is a public health emergency, where your vaccination is necessary for other people’s safety.

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JOE 🥓  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:23:51am

And for today’s episode of Pulpit Pimp Theater!

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:24:27am

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

There are people who were against the mRNA vaccines but not against vaccines in general. Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying were on Bill Maher months ago. She expressed concern that the mRNA vaccines were rushed to market without sufficient experience (they are the first mRNA vaccines), but made it clear that she had no problem with the others that were available at that time.

The number of people who are concerned about mRNA vaccines but will actively seek out other vaccines for safety is vanishingly, incredibly small. People like Bret Weinstein, who favours pseudotreatments like ivermectin, are not going to be in that group. This is the same sort of faux-intellectual contrarianism that always seems to be pro-right wing fascism while being opposed to anything that benefits the common good.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:25:03am

re: #161 Teukka

The US in unlikely to agree to any eco-cide treaty, at least as long as the current GOP has more than 39 seats in the Senate.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:25:21am

re: #164 No Malarkey!

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Dangerman  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:26:04am

re: #125 Dangerman

Too little too late

Shoulda said it at the time. Profiles in courage and all.

Ps won’t help your career rehab nohow

Cowards all:

Barr told me that Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnel had been urging him to speak out since mid-November. Publicly, McConnell had said nothing to criticize Trump’s allegations, but he told Barr that Trump’s claims were damaging to the country and to the Republican Party. Trump’s refusal to concede was complicating McConnell’s efforts to ensure that the GOP won the two runoff elections in Georgia scheduled for January 5.”

“Republicans needed to make the argument that with Biden soon to be in the White House, it was crucial that they have a majority in the Senate to check his power. But McConnell also believed that if he openly declared Biden the winner, Trump would be enraged and likely act to sabotage the Republican Senate campaigns in Georgia. Barr related his conversations with McConnell to me. McConnell confirms the account.

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Mattand  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:27:39am

re: #155 Hecuba’s daughter

There are people who were against the mRNA vaccines but not against vaccines in general. Bret Weinstein and his wife Heather Heying were on Bill Maher months ago. She expressed concern that the mRNA vaccines were rushed to market without sufficient experience (they are the first mRNA vaccines), but made it clear that she had no problem with the others that were available at that time.

I read about that segment after it aired. That whole interview was Maher floating a trial balloon to see if he could get away with mRNA vax denial the way he does with the flu vaccine. Given his normal anti-vax stance, I don’t doubt he was chomping at the bit to start dispensing the same “Just eat right and exercise and you’ll never need a vaccine again” idiocy he does with the flu.

I imagine the fact that COVID vax denial became an almost MAGAt-exclusive viewpoint probably helped keep him off that ledge.

I will also acknowledge he didn’t go apeshit when he tested COVID positive after getting vaccinated, although I really don’t think we got the full story there. Like, he went to some quack offering an ‘alternate’ COVID vaccine and conveniently forgot to mention that.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:27:47am

re: #168 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The US in unlikely to agree to any eco-cide treaty, at least as long as the current GOP has more than 39 seats in the Senate.

The thing is, International Law operates under an evolved set of the Nuremberg/Nürnberg Rules:
1. Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.
2. The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law.
3.The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law, acted as Head of State or responsible government official, does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.
4. The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.
5. Complicity in the commission of genocide, a war crime, or a crime against humanity is a crime under international law.
6. Any person charged with a crime under international law has the right to a fair trial on the facts and law.

Most international laws operate under universal jurisdiction, meaning any country may investigate, prosecute and try people for violations of it…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:28:04am

re: #170 Dangerman

Cowards all:

And of course the GOP lost the Georgia Senate runoffs anyway as Trump convinced enough of his voters that the election was rigged so they didn’t bother to vote.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:29:17am

re: #158 nines09

Now I’m hungry….

Now that’s one hell of a pie.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:31:08am

re: #172 Teukka

Here’s the thing: “international law” is only a reality when nations agree (treaty) to it. It doesn’t exist out there in the universe by itself.

Ontologically speaking, all human laws, including “international law”, only exist through humans agreeing to them.

Not just the US, but many nations I suspect would not sign on to an international agreement wherein eco-cide is strongly defined.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:33:09am

re: #160 Hecuba’s daughter

But they were willing to take other vaccines. I think it was AstraZeneca that she explicitly mentioned.

If they give Novavax emergency use authorization, there will be conspiracies come out overnight about it. The microchip tracking device theory had nothing to do with the type of vaccine.

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darthstar  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:33:33am
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ericblair  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:34:42am
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:35:21am

re: #178 ericblair

Yay.

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:36:49am

re: #168 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The US in unlikely to agree to any eco-cide treaty, at least as long as the current GOP has more than 39 seats in the Senate.

And you have to lower your number to at least 32 seats since it will require a 2/3 majority to pass.

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Mattand  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:38:40am

180° topic shift: any Boston-area Lizards out there? I might be seeing the Phils play the Sox at Fenway, and am wondering how safe it would be to wear a Phillies jersey.

Is this because I’ve attended Philly sports events for nearly half a century, and see what absolute shitholes Philadelphia fans can be to opposing team supporters?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

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Jay C  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:42:45am

re: #179 PhillyPretzel

Yay.

I wouldn’t doo too much cheering: it sounds like the WI SC rejected the plan because it had been filed as a “petition” by (presumably) a private citizen. With the usual legal “non-clarity”.

I would imagine a far easier way to get said restrictions into place would be to simply get one’s Republican Assemblyman to introduce it as a bill under the guise of “election reform”…

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:45:17am

re: #182 Jay C

It is not a big celebration. With elections every little step counts. The fact that one state allows something good to happen shows other states they can do it too.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:47:15am

re: #143 jeffreyw

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ipsos  Jun 27, 2021 • 8:48:53am

re: #181 Mattand

180° topic shift: any Boston-area Lizards out there? I might be seeing the Phils play the Sox at Fenway, and am wondering how safe it would be to wear a Phillies jersey.

Is this because I’ve attended Philly sports events for nearly half a century, and see what absolute shitholes Philadelphia fans can be to opposing team supporters?

Yes.

Yes, it is.

Former Bostonian here. You’ll be fine.

Times have changed. You could even go to Fenway in a Yankees jersey and you’re not going to get beer “accidentally” knocked on you. Everyone’s paid $100 or more to be there and they’re less rowdy than they used to be back in the day.

And nobody in Boston gives a rat’s ass about the Phillies anyway….

/s

/not really s

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:06:34am

re: #172 Teukka

The thing is, International Law operates under an evolved set of the Nuremberg/Nürnberg Rules:

US Government has this rather pecuilar habit of following international laws when it suits them, and ignoring them when it may cause the US Government to lose face.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:09:04am

re: #186 Eric The Fruit Bat

US Government has this rather pecuilar habit of following international laws when it suits them, and ignoring them when it may cause the US Government to lose face.

I think that a wedge can be driven in by focusing on individuals where the cost/benefit ratio is too lousy for the US government to really get involved…

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garzooma  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:10:15am

re: #185 ipsos

Former Bostonian here. You’ll be fine.

Times have changed. You could even go to Fenway in a Yankees jersey and you’re not going to get beer “accidentally” knocked on you. Everyone’s paid $100 or more to be there and they’re less rowdy than they used to be back in the day.

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Also, winning multiple World Series’ takes the edge off.

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garzooma  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:13:47am

re: #162 Jay C

Lengthy disquisition on condominiums behind tags.

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Given that figure of $10M which I saw cited as the estimated cost of repairs to the concrete at the building (and given the size of the structure, that doesn’t seem wildly out of line), I can see why the Board might not rush to get the work started - engineers’ recommendations notwithstanding - since paying for a project of that size is not going to be an easy sell. Somebody is going to have to fork up that 10 mil; and how “the building” is/was going to pay for it was likely a matter for a LOT of debate. Just doing rough figures off the top of my head, I’m guessing the cost of the structural remediation/repairs would average out (see note) at about $60 - 70,000 per unit. Which is not going to be an easy sell: especially if the Board would need owner approval to assess that level of “special” funding.
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Would insurance be relevant?

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:18:13am

re: #187 Teukka

I think that a wedge can be driven in by focusing on individuals where the cost/risk ratio is too lousy for the US government to really get involved…

The US is not a party to the Rome statutes, does not recognize the authority of the ICC
over US citizens and is not likely to allow such a precedent to be set just because it is an unpopular defendant.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:21:38am
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Jay C  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:29:34am

re: #189 garzooma

Would insurance be relevant?

Not before disaster strikes, I would imagine. Most condo-board insurance, as I recall, is liability-related: i.e., if a chunk of concrete falls off a pillar in the garage and damages your car, the condo should pay for it. However, if that chunk of concrete falls off and takes the whole building with it, that’s another matter. I don’t think insurance covers those sort of structural issues (not for a 40-year-old building on the beachfront, anyway)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:37:20am
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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:41:17am

re: #55 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Good luck with that, Prime Minister.

Trudeau says Pope should apologize on Canadian soil for church’s role in residential schools (Reuters)

Next steps? Moving anyone who is still alive and responsible. Spending vast sums of money to fight off victims. Pressing people harder for bigger donations to Peter’s Pence.

I’ve been on a tear on Twitter in the last week over the US council of Catholic bishops wanting to impose an abortion litmus test on communion. (ETA they’ve since been smacked down but I still hold this position.) I’ve now gotten to the point where I think every one of the bishops should go to prison because they were all involved (and, for all I know, could still be involved) in a decades-long conspiracy to move pedo priests around. I managed to really irritate the hell out of a priest for Regnum Christi, which is an offshoot of the Legionaires of Christ, which was founded by Marcel Maciel, a truly horrible guy who assaulted boys, young men, women…he was an equal opportunity sexual assaulter. Boy, I gave that guy hell.

I am serious…the Catholic church is an organized pedo protecting organization, and they do it because the leadership (and some of the members) believe that when a man is ordained, they stand “alter Christus” and are somehow different from the rest of us. This isn’t a new thing; back in the Middle Ages there were two judicial systems, one for clergy and one for everyone else. If you were a guy, you could weasel your way into the system if you could read, because learning how to read was a requirement of being a priest or brother. Anyway, fast forward 800 years, and this attitude has hardened and been wrapped around with all sorts of mysticism, and guess what? Pedophiles, ephebophiles and suchlike found the Catholic church a *great* place.

Let me be clear, I’m not cutting other churches any slack, but the thing is, they’re generally not as *organized* about it. (However, I’d point out that the anti-denomination denomination the Southern Baptist Convention is so not organized that they won’t even put together a database of their *convicted* sexual predators.) But the Catholic church is *organized*, has a hierarchy, and thousands of children, now adults, some dead through passage of time, some dead because they killed themselves, have been impacted, and their families, and their communities. I am TIRED these asshats get a pass and then they have the *chutzpah* to whine about abortion!

/end rant/sermon for Sunday.

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:43:26am

re: #190 danarchy

The US is not a party to the Rome statutes, does not recognize the authority of the ICC
over US citizens and is not likely to allow such a precedent to be set just because it is an unpopular defendant.

The pressure could be intense enough for the US government to be able not to have to hand over the person, they have to investigate, prosecute and try the individual(s) themselves.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:51:46am

Son of a …

Just realized the Tour de France started yesterday, and that I’ve entirely missed the first two stages.
I haven’t missed the opening stages in 18 years

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Belafon  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:54:09am
Following months of protests seeking justice and a systemic overhaul following the death of George Floyd, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler announced important changes aimed at decreasing racial disparities in policing. “One, officers are no longer going to focus on enforcing low-level traffic violations, like expired tags and equipment issues, and will instead focus on enforcing traffic violations that are a direct threat to public safety,” Wheeler said in a Twitter thread on Tuesday. “Two, officers will follow new consent search procedures that create more documentation and provide more information to people who are being asked for their consent to a search.”

That new protocol consists of three key changes. “First, officers will make an audio recording of their request when they ask for consent to search,” city officials said in a news release. “Second, officers will submit the recording with the report they will be required to write about the consent search.”

City officials continued: “Third, officers will provide information in writing about the right to refuse a consent search to any person who has been asked for their consent to search. In short, people will be informed that consent is theirs to grant or revoke, and the whole interaction will be documented.”

m.dailykos.com

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2021 • 9:56:05am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

At the Cheyenne VA, the chaplain will normally ask if there is something they can do for you or your friends and family, or if there is someone you would like to contact.

When my wife went in for surgery in Oklahoma, someone in the administration department changed the entry on her intake form from “atheist” to “Baptist.”

When a Southern Baptist pastor came round to pray with her when she was recovering from surgery, she went bananas.

It wasn’t really the pastor’s fault: He just goes through the intake forms and identifies Christians. The form had been changed and he didn’t know.

When my wife told me about it, I went down to the administration department and chewed butt for about fifteen minutes. They refused to change the entry. It took a threat to sue to get them to change it back.

When my dad was in hospice, comatose and dying, my mother got a wild hair that she wanted him to have the Last Rites. I have *no idea* where she got that from because so far as I know, neither mom nor dad had ever been in a Catholic or Episcopalian church. (That said, I’m pretty sure it was from TV.) My brother was all, “what mom wants, mom gets,” consulted with the hospice front desk, found out an Episcopalian priest was the chaplain and he’d be *happy* to give the Last Rites to dad. Which happened. At that point, psychologically, dad had died for mom and she was no longer interested in going to hospice to sit with him. Which left me to be the only person with him when he died. Yeah, I’m still working through that, seven years later.

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danarchy  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:00:57am

re: #195 Teukka

The pressure could be intense enough for the US government to be able not to have to hand over the person, they have to investigate, prosecute and try the individual(s) themselves.

That is pretty much the US position, we can try our own thank you. It would depend on how much the ecocide law overlapped with existing US environmental laws though.

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:01:40am

Ruth Graham is the religion reporter for the New York Times (previously she freelanced for a number of publications). There is a thread.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:03:56am

re: #194 mmmirele

I’ve been on a tear on Twitter in the last week over the US council of Catholic bishops wanting to impose an abortion litmus test on communion. (ETA they’ve since been smacked down but I still hold this position.) I’ve now gotten to the point where I think every one of the bishops should go to prison because they were all involved (and, for all I know, could still be involved) in a decades-long conspiracy to move pedo priests around. I managed to really irritate the hell out of a priest for Regnum Christi, which is an offshoot of the Legionaires of Christ, which was founded by Marcel Maciel, a truly horrible guy who assaulted boys, young men, women…he was an equal opportunity sexual assaulter. Boy, I gave that guy hell.

I am serious…the Catholic church is an organized pedo protecting organization, and they do it because the leadership (and some of the members) believe that when a man is ordained, they stand “alter Christus” and are somehow different from the rest of us. This isn’t a new thing; back in the Middle Ages there were two judicial systems, one for clergy and one for everyone else. If you were a guy, you could weasel your way into the system if you could read, because learning how to read was a requirement of being a priest or brother. Anyway, fast forward 800 years, and this attitude has hardened and been wrapped around with all sorts of mysticism, and guess what? Pedophiles, ephebophiles and suchlike found the Catholic church a *great* place.

Let me be clear, I’m not cutting other churches any slack, but the thing is, they’re generally not as *organized* about it. (However, I’d point out that the anti-denomination denomination the Southern Baptist Convention is so not organized that they won’t even put together a database of their *convicted* sexual predators.) But the Catholic church is *organized*, has a hierarchy, and thousands of children, now adults, some dead through passage of time, some dead because they killed themselves, have been impacted, and their families, and their communities. I am TIRED these asshats get a pass and then they have the *chutzpah* to whine about abortion!

/end rant/sermon for Sunday.

Was something like benefit of clergy operating anywhere but England? I thought it was a common-law thing, also that it came about because of the “reforms” of Henry Ii.

Also, benefit of clergy was extended to anyone who could read by statute, and was used to allow leniency for first offenders (you could only use it once) — so not really a privilege of clergy by then.

That said, you go girl. Give those bishops hell.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:08:32am

So, getting ready to open my last pint of pickles and will be making more here in a bit. Thinking about doing a jar of baby carrots as well just to see if I like them. Comments?

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Ming5000  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:10:42am

re: #202 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Pickles are magical, in a way.

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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:21:19am

re: #201 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

Was something like benefit of clergy operating anywhere but England? I thought it was a common-law thing, also that it came about because of the “reforms” of Henry Ii.

Also, benefit of clergy was extended to anyone who could read by statute, and was used to allow leniency for first offenders (you could only use it once) — so not really a privilege of clergy by then.

That said, you go girl. Give those bishops hell.

I’m thinking while it may not have been codified in other Western European jurisdictions, it existed as a matter of custom. (“jurisdiction” because I was thinking, I can’t say “country,” most of Europe was carved up into various smaller administrative units until the 19th century.) The church and the priesthood had a great deal of power prior to the modern era.

I would note that we (USA) pretty much had an uncodified version of benefit of clergy until the Spotlight report came out in 2001. The local police were also involved in hiding priestly sexual abuse in places where Catholics were either the majority or a super-minority.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:23:22am

I like this. A nice, simple vehicle with minimal bells and whistles.

The Suzuki Jimny Is the Affordable Off-Roader America Needs

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:27:11am

re: #200 mmmirele

“Message: America’s Godly Heritage.”

FFS.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:30:39am
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mmmirele  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:31:27am

re: #206 Eclectic Cyborg

“Message: America’s Godly Heritage.”

FFS.

Fuck that noise. I’m sorry, I’ve had it with this nonsense. It’s all white supremacist bullshit carrying the cross and wrapped in the American flag.

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jaunte  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:31:34am
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jaunte  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:32:13am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:36:49am

Number of times “America” or “The United States” is mentioned in the Bible: 0

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Teukka  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:41:45am

re: #210 jaunte

And the nation of Guatemala has been a glorified Charlie Foxtrot ever since 😢 …

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:42:57am

re: #194 mmmirele

Let me be clear, I’m not cutting other churches any slack, but the thing is, they’re generally not as *organized* about it. (However, I’d point out that the anti-denomination denomination the Southern Baptist Convention is so not organized that they won’t even put together a database of their *convicted* sexual predators.) But the Catholic church is *organized*, has a hierarchy, and thousands of children, now adults, some dead through passage of time, some dead because they killed themselves, have been impacted, and their families, and their communities. I am TIRED these asshats get a pass and then they have the *chutzpah* to whine about abortion!

/end rant/sermon for Sunday.

The Catholic Church also has a worldwide range of destinations where they can ship their “bad apples” to hide them; I don’t think any other denomination has that kind of range. (also, the Cardinal from Boston who was facing serious criminal charges… they transferred him to the Vatican. The Church has their very own recognized country, and it doesn’t do extraditions.)

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sagehen  Jun 27, 2021 • 10:50:29am

re: #210 jaunte

This is the origin of the term “banana republic”.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jun 27, 2021 • 11:40:47am

re: #192 Jay C

Not before disaster strikes, I would imagine. Most condo-board insurance, as I recall, is liability-related: i.e., if a chunk of concrete falls off a pillar in the garage and damages your car, the condo should pay for it. However, if that chunk of concrete falls off and takes the whole building with it, that’s another matter. I don’t think insurance covers those sort of structural issues (not for a 40-year-old building on the beachfront, anyway)

Plus if they try to file an insurance claim I am sure the insurance company will bring out that 2018 report and argue that the condo association was negligent in providing proper maintenance on the building and thus the insurance coverage was invalidated.

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Mattand  Jun 27, 2021 • 11:41:30am

re: #185 ipsos

Former Bostonian here. You’ll be fine.

Times have changed. You could even go to Fenway in a Yankees jersey and you’re not going to get beer “accidentally” knocked on you. Everyone’s paid $100 or more to be there and they’re less rowdy than they used to be back in the day.

And nobody in Boston gives a rat’s ass about the Phillies anyway….

/s

/not really s

LOL, thanks. I want to go in order to say that I saw a game at Fenway, and not so much for the Phillies, given their record this year.

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John Hughes  Jun 27, 2021 • 3:28:53pm

re: #205 Dr Lizardo

Just don’t try getting in the back seats.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 27, 2021 • 4:18:28pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

He had to leave Surfside early so he could make sure to be back in time to sign his university political vetting bill and get on television.

Priorities.

As long as my feet are dry


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