Polish Acoustic Guitar Phenom Marcin: Paganini’s Caprice No. 5 on One Guitar

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Caprice no. 5 arranged, performed and produced by Marcin. Originally by Paganini.
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Many thanks to both Fishman and Ibanez for supporting the creation of this session.
Marcin played on an Ibanez guitar and used a Fishman Loudbox Artist amplifier & Fishman PowerTap Earth pickups.

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You can learn this piece by buying the tabs/sheet music available on Marcin’s website.
Only these tabs are written by Marcin himself and are 100% accurate.

Arranged, produced and performed by Marcin.
Originally a composition by Niccolo Paganini.
Mix & Mastering by Piotr Patrzalek: piotr@potrus.pl

Video direction: Mortvideo
Executive producer: Marcin
Production company: Mortvideo
DOP, Editing, Color Grading: Marcin Kopiec (Mortvideo)
Assistant: Krystian Tuzimski
Closing logo: Empadé Design Studio
Special thanks: Piotr, Lidia & Michal Patrzalek

Recorded in Studio S4 - Warsaw, Poland, 2021

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218 comments
1
Belafon  Dec 28, 2021 • 8:08:02pm

The played the John Madden clip where he talked about Troy Aikman not being able to grow a beard on the tribute to Madden tonight on WFAA. I suspect that clip will be everywhere.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 28, 2021 • 8:11:17pm

Harry Reid and John Madden, two giants in their fields. RIP.

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Rightwingconspirator  Dec 28, 2021 • 8:14:12pm

The year-end reviews of celebrity deaths were always bittersweet. Still is but people have dropped all around all of us in the pandemic years.

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2021 • 8:55:13pm

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:13:39pm
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Belafon  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:19:53pm
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:21:53pm
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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:41:52pm

So I can buy the tab for that Marcin piece.

Now if only I could buy the skill needed to perform it. Sigh.

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:42:05pm

Everybody got quiet. So I gotta stare at these all night?

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:47:09pm

YouTube

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:49:15pm

It’s following me!

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A Cranky One  Dec 28, 2021 • 9:59:13pm

CuriousLurker once posted a link to some creepy wig stands.

I was getting ads for weeks after with creepy mannequin heads.

It’s scary. And I miss CL.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:02:25pm

re: #5 Patricia Kayden

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Meanwhile, most folks by now have come to understand that the same toxic ideology that motivated Roof to massacre a church congregation and sends armed yahoos to the border also motivated thousands of white folks with “economic anxiety” to storm the Capital Building.

Of course, the reason why they want to dismiss 1/6 is because the people who were bashing in doors, smearing shit on the walls, and (oh yeah) trying to assassinate elected officials look too similar to themselves for comfort. They want to put the face of a drugged out loser or beered-up redneck assholes on the movement because that allows them to continue telling themselves that their well-dressed neighbor screaming about “STOLEN ELECTIONS!!!” is a good guy who’s just “misinformed.”

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:03:07pm

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s following me!

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The newest browsers track eye movement. //

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:05:47pm

Since it’s obvious we’re a family website, I ran across this the other day: 68 Porn Movies With Great Plots and Better Sex. I knew of Marie Claire, but I didn’t know you could find this kind of helpful information there.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:17:11pm

re: #13 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, most folks by now have come to understand that the same toxic ideology that motivated Roof to massacre a church congregation and sends armed yahoos to the border also motivated thousands of white folks with “economic anxiety” to storm the Capital Building.

Of course, the reason why they want to dismiss 1/6 is because the people who were bashing in doors, smearing shit on the walls, and (oh yeah) trying to assassinate elected officials look too similar to themselves for comfort. They want to put the face of a drugged out loser or beered-up redneck assholes on the movement because that allows them to continue telling themselves that their well-dressed neighbor screaming about “STOLEN ELECTIONS!!!” is a good guy who’s just “misinformed.”

Those who want to dismiss 1/6 have bought into Stolen Elections and have persuaded themselves that the only bad thing that happened that day was the death of their martyr Ashli Babbitt; these were unarmed peaceful protestors. And these same collaborators continue to believe that the only reason the pandemic isn’t over is the failure to prescribe hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin; in any case, Fauci and Biden are fearmongering over a disease that is no longer dangerous at all.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:18:10pm

re: #6 Belafon

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Even if you limit “the American people” to just adults 18+, 15% of the US adult population works out to roughly 39 million Americans carrying student debts.

Quick Google search says that the average student graduated last year with close to $30,000 in student loan debts. So let’s average that out at $10,000 because a lot of students have since begun paying off those debts. That is $390 billion in money that could be used to pull people up out of poverty that is going to a bank ledger instead.

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Belafon  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:18:49pm
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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:29:28pm

re: #15 Belafon

That’s some ancient porn. I saw some of those in a S.F. theater.

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Targetpractice  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:32:14pm

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

Those who want to dismiss 1/6 have bought into Stolen Elections and have persuaded themselves that the only bad thing that happened that day was the death of their martyr Ashli Babbitt; these were unarmed peaceful protestors. And these same collaborators continue to believe that the only reason the pandemic isn’t over is the failure to prescribe hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin; in any case, Fauci and Biden are fearmongering over a disease that is no longer dangerous at all.

I have to disagree, the quoted tweet is more an example of those less in denial of objective reality and more in denial about the people around them. The ones who responded to the outpouring of hate and bile after Trump won in 2016 by whining that people needed to stop calling his supporters “racists” or “bigots” because it was harshing their mellow. Who have lectured us over the last four holiday seasons about how we need to be understanding and accepting of the MAGAts at the dinner table. And who now look at images of 1/6 and see not a lawless rabble but that uncle on their mother’s side or their coworker or the friendly neighbor down the street with a “TRUMP 2020” flag still high up the flagpole but makes such an amazing cheese dip for the game on Sunday.

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 10:34:30pm

YouTube

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 11:04:58pm

My daughter gave me a bluetooth speaker for Christmas. When I opened the box it was empty. We should get a replacement soon.

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Captain Ron  Dec 28, 2021 • 11:26:17pm

Um..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:33:49am

re: #23 Dread Pirate Ron

The movie that revived the mechanical bull industry…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:41:09am

Right-wing violence. Remember a Presidential candidate who once offered to pay the legal fee of anyone who assaults a heckler at one of his rallies?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:42:44am

re: #17 Targetpractice

Even if you limit “the American people” to just adults 18+, 15% of the US adult population works out to roughly 39 million Americans carrying student debts.

Quick Google search says that the average student graduated last year with close to $30,000 in student loan debts. So let’s average that out at $10,000 because a lot of students have since begun paying off those debts. That is $390 billion in money that could be used to pull people up out of poverty that is going to a bank ledger instead.

If we ban flogging, that is an insult to those who have been flogged…

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:45:47am

re: #25 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Right-wing violence. Remember a Presidential candidate who once offered to pay the legal fee of anyone who assaults a heckler at one of his rallies?

That was a “joke,” dontchaknow?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:47:07am

re: #27 Targetpractice

That was a “joke,” dontchaknow?

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“performance art” is the preferred term as used in the Alex Jones defense…

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Targetpractice  Dec 29, 2021 • 1:14:35am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we ban flogging, that is an insult to those who have been flogged…

Nah, it’s the usual bit about minimizing the suffering of others, so the more accurate analogy is “The people who are being flogged are a small minority compared to those us in pain from other methods of torture!” The implication being that it’s “unfair” if all you focus on is helping those being flogged.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2021 • 3:04:50am

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Youtube Video


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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 3:08:56am

re: #29 Targetpractice

Nah, it’s the usual bit about minimizing the suffering of others, so the more accurate analogy is “The people who are being flogged are a small minority compared to those us in pain from other methods of torture!” The implication being that it’s “unfair” if all you focus on is helping those being flogged.

If you don’t solve all the problems all at once you shouldn’t solve any..especially if what you’re focusing on is not one I care about

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Dec 29, 2021 • 3:15:03am

re: #18 Belafon

I’m going to push back against that, just a little…

Many years ago I bought a house out here. I had a professional job, ok salary, and single. I was only able to afford a “starter home”, but I held onto it long enough that it paid for itself.

However, that does not mean all people my age could do so. My per-capita income was above the average (pointedly, being single there is no real demand for support outside of oneself.)

House ownership was always a challenge in the 20th century. Even if there was a brief window (say 50’s to the 60’s) when home ownership was expected if one had a well paying job, even by the 70’s that was slipping away.

I remember growing up living completely in rentals.

Let’s not try to paint the past as a “golden age” of house ownership.

I have plenty of ancestors who were on the go-west-and-take-the-captured-Indian-lands ticket. Several of them owned property because they served in the military (that was the capture-the-land part.)

That period in US history has left a mark, I think, on Americans thinking they should expect to own land and a house.

But here in the 21st century we are long past finding more land and stealing it. Most of us want to live in urban areas, and that means entering the price war for property.

And as I’ve pointed out over the past year, that battle has become quite heated. No person, no couple, starting out in San Diego can afford to buy a house here unless they get help from parents or win the lottery or become celebrities with big deals.

I think the time has come that we need a new national myth, one that does not depend upon moving west and putting down stakes and building a house.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 3:31:41am

But of course

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:21:10am

re: #32 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

House ownership was always a challenge in the 20th century. Even if there was a brief window (say 50’s to the 60’s) when home ownership was expected if one had a well paying job, even by the 70’s that was slipping away.

we all know that has to do with the price of avocados…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:22:33am

re: #31 Dangerman

If you don’t solve all the problems all at once you shouldn’t solve any..especially if what you’re focusing on is not one I care about

I also see someone with $30K in student debt as a different thing matter a person with $30K in debt from an oversized pick-up truck, a 90” plasma screen with wrap-around sound and multiple trips to Vegas and Disneyworld…

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:32:41am

re: #13 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, most folks by now have come to understand that the same toxic ideology that motivated Roof to massacre a church congregation and sends armed yahoos to the border also motivated thousands of white folks with “economic anxiety” to storm the Capital Building.

Of course, the reason why they want to dismiss 1/6 is because the people who were bashing in doors, smearing shit on the walls, and (oh yeah) trying to assassinate elected officials look too similar to themselves for comfort. They want to put the face of a drugged out loser or beered-up redneck assholes on the movement because that allows them to continue telling themselves that their well-dressed neighbor screaming about “STOLEN ELECTIONS!!!” is a good guy who’s just “misinformed.”

Nope, the insurrection was largely made up of middle aged professionals and businessmen radicalized by Fox News into believing the Great Replacement Theory. Much like German fascism was a movement of middle aged WWI veterans radicalized by Hitler’s Stab in the Back Theory.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:35:20am

re: #18 Belafon

In 1972, my dad wondered what he got himself into when he took out a $13,000 mortgage to buy our first house. I know, inflation; that was half a century ago.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:39:34am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s following me!

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It also got Paul’s interest.

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JC1  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:39:35am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

In 1972, my dad wondered what he got himself into when he took out a $13,000 mortgage to buy our first house. I know, inflation; that was half a century ago.

If a college degree helps you earn an extra 30k/yr during your working years, it’s probably worth the 1k/month or whatever in loan payments. It is a problem when jobs requiring degrees don’t pay enough to make the degrees worthwhile.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:41:27am

re: #33 Dangerman

But of course

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It’s time we find out why he had to quit the Medford police department.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 4:51:54am

Finger. Lickin’. Good. You go, Colonel.

Click to Reveal
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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:01:13am

re: #41 darthstar

Finger. Lickin’. Good. You go, Colonel.

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The 70s was the best decade…even though I was a kid through it.

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Ming5000  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:01:29am

Perusing SorryAntiVaxer this morning. People are still strolling into death with willful ignorance. The families often shock me with their antics while the soon to be dead struggle on life support.

They see failure to cure as active murder.
They demand alternate cures like ivermectin.
Sometimes they really rely on the medical experts for success, which flies in the face of their otherwise anti-science mentality.

I enjoy a lot of the comments on there, too.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:06:48am

I don’t often want toys…

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Ming5000  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:09:47am

I know we have programmers and people in IT here on LGF.
I found this interesting:

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:11:50am

re: #4 A Cranky One

Naw… for me it’s Bluey.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:14:14am

Just checking…

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:19:39am

Sociopaths are everywhere.

A guy I know has gone full MAGA and tries to claim that persons of color are far less likely to be vaccinated.

He points to racial breakdown of vaccinations. Whites are more likely to be vaccinated than Blacks (which is how CDC stats call them) or Hispanics, but once you throw in political leaning, you see that the white GOP is the least vaccinated group, well below persons of color, and the only reason that white Americans are more vaccinated is because Democrats are more likely to be vaccinated.

African Americans do need to get their vaccination levels up. But so does the GOP. Instead, we get the clown car of crazy from Fox and right wing outlets spreading misinformation daily, and the pandemic’s worst effects are focused tightly on the unvaccinated ending up in hospitals and dying.

Omicron does present more challenges for those who are vaccinated, but people get protections from vaccinations and masking - together, they reduce the spread (again something my now full MAGA friend claims is bunk despite all the evidence to the contrary). Delta has not gone away either.

But at least there’s one less superspreader out there knowingly infecting others with intent to cause harm:

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:22:10am

Good morning!

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:22:13am

The Denver shooter was a white nationalist terrorist.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:30:33am

re: #50 No Malarkey!

Right wing domestic terrorist murdered 5, injured several others, including a cop. He apparently impersonated a cop as well, while on his shooting spree.

Once again, a right wing domestic terrorist carries out violent fantasies, and the media continues to snooze. The comparison between this and the Boston Marathon bombing is relevant and on point. At the same point hours later, everyone was running the Marathon bombing as the top story and focused on the manhunt for those involved. Here, we have a spree shooter who targeted people in an attempt to cause multiple mass casualty events, and killed 5. But because it’s not sufficiently high body count, media has decided this isn’t sufficient to warrant above the fold coverage. NYT can’t even be bothered.

If the news isn’t covering it, people aren’t seeing it. That’s an editorial decision that kills.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:46:38am

re: #27 Targetpractice

That was a “joke,” dontchaknow?

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Of course it was. Did anyone honestly expect Trump to actually pay for someone else’s legal fees? He won’t even pay his own! That’s what Republicans are for.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:49:16am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

In 1972, my dad wondered what he got himself into when he took out a $13,000 mortgage to buy our first house. I know, inflation; that was half a century ago.

My first house was $40k. I couldn’t sleep the night before because I was so freaked out about going that much in debt.

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:54:59am

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:55:20am

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we ban flogging, that is an insult to those who have been flogged…

people made bad financial decisions. I don’t want to bail them out so they can make more bad financial decisions. For everybody struggling to pay off their student loan debt, there is my friend and coworker, who used student loans for everything as a student, treating himself to new computers, borrowing enough so that he could eat out constantly. Now, he makes certain he doesn’t make enough money to trigger automatic repayments because he’s discovered if he just pays nothing for 20 years, the debt is forgiven.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 29, 2021 • 5:56:55am

re: #50 No Malarkey!

Once upon a time, I had a blog. Back in the day. I wrote a lot about having a child on the autism spectrum,gardening and liberal politics.

I attracted the attention of a right wing religious lunatics who called himself Patriarch Verlch. He left awful responses to my posts, blogspot wouldn’t do much back then. One morning I opened my email to find a satellite photo of my son’s school with the words “you should visit the school today” as the only text in the email. I called the police, who said they couldn’t do anything because the sender was likely from another state. So I called the GBI, no help there either. I shut down the account rather than risk anyone’s safety. At the time my sister was dating an IT guy who fixed computers for a living and he was able to track the email to a location in Washington state. This dude was a self proclaimed MRA who made it his life goal to “eradicate the scourge of feminism and the damage it has done to men and the American family”. This was almost 20 yrs ago. These fuckers have only become more united and pissed off, they truly hate everyone.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:04:22am

re: #45 Ming5000

I know we have programmers and people in IT here on LGF.
I found this interesting:

One of the images in the thread references, “Whatever happened to a two-week notice?” The answer is this: That is merely a professional courtesy. If you are being absolute assholes to your employees, they are not obligated, by any law, to provide you with two weeks’ notice of resignation. At-will employment works both ways; an employee can simply refuse to show up for work the next day. What are you going to do, fire them? Sadly, this is a pretty typical panic response from bosses who aren’t prepared to lose critical members of their team.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:04:54am

re: #56 A Mom Anon

Once upon a time, I had a blog. Back in the day. I wrote a lot about having a child on the autism spectrum,gardening and liberal politics.

I attracted the attention of a right wing religious lunatics who called himself Patriarch Verlch. He left awful responses to my posts, blogspot wouldn’t do much back then. One morning I opened my email to find a satellite photo of my son’s school with the words “you should visit the school today” as the only text in the email. I called the police, who said they couldn’t do anything because the sender was likely from another state. So I called the GBI, no help there either. I shut down the account rather than risk anyone’s safety. At the time my sister was dating an IT guy who fixed computers for a living and he was able to track the email to a location in Washington state. This dude was a self proclaimed MRA who made it his life goal to “eradicate the scourge of feminism and the damage it has done to men and the American family”. This was almost 20 yrs ago. These fuckers have only become more united and pissed off, they truly hate everyone.

That must have been terrifying.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:06:52am

This is wild. I knew this dude growing up. Also, his sister went on to become a powerful lawyer. She was recently sentenced to 6 weeks in jail and significant fines for being part of the fraudulent scheme to get kids into exclusive colleges. I hope Chris is ok. I’d hate to be held by the Russian state (or any state, for that matter).

‘Is this 1931 Soviet Union?’ Russia jails prominent U.S.-born investor August Meyer pending trial for fraud
10:37 am, December 9, 2021
Source: Meduza

A St. Petersburg court has jailed prominent investor August Meyer for two months pending trial for fraud. Meyer, a U.S.-born businessman who now holds Russian citizenship, is the owner of the beauty chain Rive Gauche and co-owner of the online retailer Ulmart. He stands accused of two counts of fraud totaling 2.4 billion rubles ($32.6 million). Meyer’s wife, Inna, is also a suspect in the case and was placed under house arrest. Speaking in court, in English (see the video below), Meyer recounted coming under pressure from Russian investigators. Allegedly, he was told that if he plead guilty, the authorities would release his wife. “Is it appropriate to hold a wife hostage?” Meyer asked. “Is this 1931 Soviet Union?”

meduza.io

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:13:34am

re: #55 steve_davis

people made bad financial decisions. I don’t want to bail them out so they can make more bad financial decisions. For everybody struggling to pay off their student loan debt, there is my friend and coworker, who used student loans for everything as a student, treating himself to new computers, borrowing enough so that he could eat out constantly. Now, he makes certain he doesn’t make enough money to trigger automatic repayments because he’s discovered if he just pays nothing for 20 years, the debt is forgiven.

A share of the tuition costs should be at least forgiven. That should not exist. And I thought that student debt could not be defaulted on.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:14:55am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

One of the images in the thread references, “Whatever happened to a two-week notice?” The answer is this: That is merely a professional courtesy.

In many other countries, a written notice period (on both sides) is a matter of labor law. A boss can send you home from one day to the next but still has to pay you.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:15:03am

re: #59 Barefoot Grin

This is wild. I knew this dude growing up. Also, his sister went on to become a powerful lawyer. She was recently sentenced to 6 weeks in jail and significant fines for being part of the fraudulent scheme to get kids into exclusive colleges. I hope Chris is ok. I’d hate to be held by the Russian state (or any state, for that matter).

‘Is this 1931 Soviet Union?’ Russia jails prominent U.S.-born investor August Meyer pending trial for fraud
10:37 am, December 9, 2021
Source: Meduza

A St. Petersburg court has jailed prominent investor August Meyer for two months pending trial for fraud. Meyer, a U.S.-born businessman who now holds Russian citizenship, is the owner of the beauty chain Rive Gauche and co-owner of the online retailer Ulmart. He stands accused of two counts of fraud totaling 2.4 billion rubles ($32.6 million). Meyer’s wife, Inna, is also a suspect in the case and was placed under house arrest. Speaking in court, in English (see the video below), Meyer recounted coming under pressure from Russian investigators. Allegedly, he was told that if he plead guilty, the authorities would release his wife. “Is it appropriate to hold a wife hostage?” Meyer asked. “Is this 1931 Soviet Union?”

meduza.io

It’s Putin’s Russia, 2021.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:15:14am

re: #58 No Malarkey!

It was. My husband was traveling a lot for work back then, when this happened he was in the DC metro for the week. I think the asshole went through every post and spent a lot of time trying to figure out my location. I didn’t realize back then I was leaving clues all over my blog. We have an alarm system that rarely got used until this happened. Scared the hell out of me.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:16:05am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

I think the part that burns me is in the replies, several people saying that the whole thing is fake. I can assure you, this is not unheard of. It’s an open secret in the IT industry that management, in general, does not treat IT professionals very well. Everyone knows that the only way to get a proper raise in the industry is to quit and take a new position somewhere else; your company will not give you anything more than the most minimum cost-of-living raise. We’re treated as expendable components until something happens, at which point they promise all sorts of things that magically never materialize. Management is quick to point the blame for failures, but rarely acknowledges us for heroic efforts or major successes.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:20:46am

re: #45 Ming5000

I know we have programmers and people in IT here on LGF.
I found this interesting:

Sounds too good to be true, but I sure hope it is. That manager is an idiot. Follows “what makes you think you’re worth more than ME!” with “come back and save the company.” That’s why he’s worth more than you, moron.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:23:40am

re: #64 Dopamine Fish

My sister’s old boyfriend, who used to work in IT for First Union Bank(I think Bank of America bought them later on) ended up quitting and going into business with a friend, fixing and updating home computers. They opened a second location a few years ago. I’ve taken more than one device to them for repairs or to show non tech savvy me how something works or answer my questions. At reasonable prices too. Both guys said they got tired of being treated like shit by bosses and decided to go into business for themselves. In their case, it paid off well, and they are good at what they do.

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JC1  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:23:58am

re: #62 No Malarkey!

It’s Putin’s Russia, 2021.

It’s not like this is a surprise. Why would any self respecting business person want to deal with Russia?

China is a large enough market that it’s difficult for firms to ignore, but Russia? Third world shit hole with nuclear weapons and an economy smaller than several states.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:30:17am

re: #67 JC1

It’s not like this is a surprise. Why would any self respecting business person want to deal with Russia?

China is a large enough market that it’s difficult for firms to ignore, but Russia? Third world shit hole with nuclear weapons and an economy smaller than several states.

Nobody is going to invest for the long run or to do something beneficial for the country. That sort of approach gets punished with failure or abuse.

The only people who would want to do business there are the ones who go in, scoop up as much profit as they can and scoot. In other words, the very sort of Capitalists that the Communist Party warned Russia about.

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:30:57am

re: #37 No Malarkey!

In 1972, my dad wondered what he got himself into when he took out a $13,000 mortgage to buy our first house. I know, inflation; that was half a century ago.

My folks bought a four bedroom house in the early 70’s. I forget what the price was, but my dad always told me about their decision not to get central air: it would have added $25 to the already exorbitant $200 monthly mortgage.

Flash forward to 1991: we’ve moved back to NJ in 1976 and got a new house. I move out and discover that the rent on my first one bedroom apartment is the same as their mortgage: $425.

Today, I live in a three bedroom in the burbs with a mortgage that’s equal to or possibly cheaper than a one bedroom apartment in Philly.

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Mattand  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:33:52am

re: #69 Mattand

EDIT: reply fail. I was responding to No Marlakey@37. I put in the change but you need to refresh.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:34:02am

re: #67 JC1

It’s not like this is a surprise. Why would any self respecting business person want to deal with Russia?

China is a large enough market that it’s difficult for firms to ignore, but Russia? Third world shit hole with nuclear weapons and an economy smaller than several states.

I just did a brief search. Chris was all up in Putin’s butt as recently as 2017; he renounced his US citizenship many years ago (I didn’t know that). Every once in awhile I’d see a pretty photo of St. Petersburg on my FB page from him and he would extol the virtues of the place. I don’t think he read the room very well.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:38:31am

Oh good, the wind chill has fallen off this morning. Before the sun rose, the air temperature was -11 °F (-23.9 C) and the wind chill was -21 °F (-29.4 C); now the air temperature is up to -9 °F (-22.8 C), but the wind chill is the same temperature. Perhaps now I should go shovel the driveway.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:39:11am

Regarding that hilarious IT thread.
I’d be like “Well, I’ve become a consultant. Here’s my hourly rate. Cut a PO.. Click…”

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:41:42am

re: #73 Dave In Austin

Countless businesses lay off productive employees, only to realize they need their skills to get to done. So they hire them back as contractors. Even if they give a higher pay, they save in long term because they don’t have to give the benefits package of a full time hire.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:46:22am

re: #74 lawhawk

At this point I prefer contract employment

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:50:59am
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Jay C  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:52:47am

Here’s a mystery (of some sort or other): After my latest W10 upgrades, I noticed I had a little weather icon on my bottom taskbar - so, when I clicked on it for the first time this morning (I usually go to Weather Channel) - I noticed it opened up a Microsoft Edge* box with some “articles of interest” - most of which has a definitely right-wing slant. The lead one was some imbecilic piece from The Hill (blech!) about how the Democratic Party is “alienating” non-white voters by becoming “the Party of ‘Karens’”… Also, pieces from Fox and the NY Daily News.
Is this MS’s choice to provide?
I (like, probably, most Net-surfers) tend to pick and choose by news/opinion sources**, but it just chafes me that MS’s default “news” has, apparently, a notable right-wing slant. Anyone else have this issue?

*A browser I seldom, if ever, use.
** Mainly LGF, fwiw.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:54:04am

Well, I’m up after less than five hours sleep waiting for the leak detection guy from the plumbing company to locate whether the massive leak the water department called to warn us about is under the yard or under the concrete slab on which the house is built.

Please let it be under the yard.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 6:56:21am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

One of the images in the thread references, “Whatever happened to a two-week notice?” The answer is this: That is merely a professional courtesy. If you are being absolute assholes to your employees, they are not obligated, by any law, to provide you with two weeks’ notice of resignation. At-will employment works both ways; an employee can simply refuse to show up for work the next day. What are you going to do, fire them? Sadly, this is a pretty typical panic response from bosses who aren’t prepared to lose critical members of their team.

always have resumes in the drawer for every job
and cross train

like making backups and storing them offsite - you dont need em till you do

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:05:04am

re: #49 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

Under the clouds, the air is clear as glass.
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:05:22am

re: #57 Dopamine Fish

One of the images in the thread references, “Whatever happened to a two-week notice?” The answer is this: That is merely a professional courtesy. If you are being absolute assholes to your employees, they are not obligated, by any law, to provide you with two weeks’ notice of resignation. At-will employment works both ways; an employee can simply refuse to show up for work the next day. What are you going to do, fire them? Sadly, this is a pretty typical panic response from bosses who aren’t prepared to lose critical members of their team.

Yep. It took the company I walked away from last May about 3 months to quit calling me about problems with a certain type of progressive controller. They either got tired (or just gave up) of calling and getting told, I wrote a fucking SOP on those things, READ IT!, to my favorite, IF you read the SOP and still can’t figure it out, call the vendor (IGT, so many $$$) for tech support. It may have also been me blocking their number(s) on my phone.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:07:45am

So, now Fox is concerned about wages eroded because of inflation, but when you point this out over decades of stagnant wages (like the minimum wage), they don’t give a shit.

Fox claims that inflation has gutted the military wage hike of 2.7%.

This is what Fox does. Always.

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JC1  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:08:21am

re: #74 lawhawk

Countless businesses lay off productive employees, only to realize they need their skills to get to done. So they hire them back as contractors. Even if they give a higher pay, they save in long term because they don’t have to give the benefits package of a full time hire.

And even if it ends up costing more in reality, it doesn’t look that way from an accounting perspective. Like firms selling their HQ building and the leasing it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:08:48am

re: #76 Dave In Austin

You believe in Individual Freedom.

Freedom has consequences and responsibilities

Nobody is forcing you to vaccinate.

Now face the consequences and act responsibly.

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jeffreyw  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:09:19am

re: #77 Jay C

I don’t like the clutter so I turned the news and weather off.

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:10:56am

re: #75 Dave In Austin

At this point I prefer contract employment

I worked at Ford for 20 years as a contractor. My first contract assignment included overtime pay which I earned a ton of, it being Y2K and also we had some incompatible systems that had to be manually rebooted on weekends and at 4:00AM when the financial markets opened in the UK.

My last contract was very stingy wrt PTO and health benefits. I already had Medicare so the health part was taken care of. My manager was very generous about letting me work from home for 6 weeks after my foot surgery and let me take a week off (unpaid of course) when my mother passed away.

I still get calls from recruiters but nah I like being retired.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:18:01am

re: #79 Dangerman

always have resumes in the drawer for every job
and cross train

like making backups and storing them offsite - you dont need em till you do

I periodically update my linked in profile with high level job duties. Since my title changed last year to Director I get a lot more contacts from vendors than recruiters, and a lot of the recruiter stuff is for positions I held 6 or 7 years ago…offshore keyword searching cold callers.

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:23:45am

re: #67 JC1

It’s not like this is a surprise. Why would any self respecting business person want to deal with Russia?

China is a large enough market that it’s difficult for firms to ignore, but Russia? Third world shit hole with nuclear weapons and an economy smaller than several states.

…Also ruled by an utterly corrupt autocracy of Putin oligarchs who will lavish wealth and women/girls/boys on businessmen who do business there, and cynically or actively provide the Russian state the means to troll and threaten much of the rest of the world.

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:27:37am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also see someone with $30K in student debt as a different thing matter a person with $30K in debt from an oversized pick-up truck, a 90” plasma screen with wrap-around sound and multiple trips to Vegas and Disneyworld…

you really shouldn’t. it’s entirely possible the student debt was wracked up for stupider reasons than, perhaps, the hvac guy who has an oversized pickup truck so that he can move his crew around to worksites, the person who purchased a 90” plasma screen because they live in a shitty neighborhood and television becomes the only viable means of killing time in the house between shifts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:30:47am

re: #88 Florida Panhandler

…Also ruled by an utterly corrupt autocracy of Putin oligarchs who will lavish wealth and women/girls/boys on businessmen who do business there, and cynically or actively provide the Russian state the means to troll and threaten much of the rest of the world.

I tried to work there with people in the early 90’s who really wanted to just do normal business in the area of electronics, food and beverage and pharmaceutical production. They quickly found that the financial system and the general regulatory system made it nearly impossible for them to accomplish anything without resorting to extraordinary and semi-legal means.

It was right about this time in early 1993 that I visited my buddies’ electronics venture to find it full of German Christmas chocolates which they had purchased cheap (after Christmas) to resell in time for Orthodox Christmas.

Another buddy was working with a cognac distillery in Ukraine. They tried to pay him for his work repeatedly but Russian banks refused to accept Ukrainian Grivny. So he wound up taking 2,000 bottles of cognac in delivery, which he had to sell off at the markets.

The only people making money were the ones selling natural resources in exchange for consumer goods. When Rolls Royce opened its first dealership in Moscow, its first customer was a young man in his 20’s who paid $225K in cash.

When asked where a man like himself came into so much cash money, he replied “It’s only 100 grams of emeralds!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:33:24am

re: #89 steve_davis

you really shouldn’t. it’s entirely possible the student debt was wracked up for stupider reasons than, perhaps, the hvac guy who has an oversized pickup truck so that he can move his crew around to worksites, the person who purchased a 90” plasma screen because they live in a shitty neighborhood and television becomes the only viable means of killing time in the house between shifts.

Then the pickup is not oversized, it is a business expense.

And yes, I have seen students spend their money unwisely, but the bulk of it is tuition costs.

When I attended state universities in the late 70’s, tuition costs were something you could cover with a summer’s worth of minimum-wage jobbing. They have since more than tripled even accounting for inflation.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:33:47am

re: #67 JC1

It’s not like this is a surprise. Why would any self respecting business person want to deal with Russia?

China is a large enough market that it’s difficult for firms to ignore, but Russia? Third world shit hole with nuclear weapons and an economy smaller than several states.

There is a list of countries that, because of AML concerns, many US banks blacklist. Russia is one of them.

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Sherlock Hound  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:34:41am

re: #89 steve_davis

you really shouldn’t. it’s entirely possible the student debt was wracked up for stupider reasons than, perhaps, the hvac guy who has an oversized pickup truck so that he can move his crew around to worksites, the person who purchased a 90” plasma screen because they live in a shitty neighborhood and television becomes the only viable means of killing time in the house between shifts.

Besides, big-screen TV’s are commodities at Walmart, even the “expensive” ones (not plasma anymore, but OLED).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:35:15am

re: #92 darthstar

There is a list of countries that, because of AML concerns, many US banks blacklist. Russia is one of them.

…while Trump does business with them.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:35:26am
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gwangung  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:36:22am

re: #91 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Then the pickup is not oversized, it is a business expense.

And yes, I have seen students spend their money unwisely, but the bulk of it is tuition costs.

When I attended state universities in the late 70’s, tuition costs were something you could cover with a summer’s worth of minimum-wage jobbing. They have since more than tripled even accounting for inflation.

We tell students right now that they cannot possibly cover tuition with a job, even if it’s full time.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:38:04am

re: #94 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

…while Trump does business with them.

That reminds me…I have quarterly training modules to complete this week…I’ve done some of them so many times I could skip to the knowledge check but there are click-thru requirements.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:38:43am
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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:39:09am

When I graduated in 1986 I had 5K in student debt. Almost my entire tuition was paid for with Pell grants.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:44:57am
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Belafon  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:45:17am

This could be huge:

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Florida Panhandler  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:46:39am

re: #101 Belafon

This could be huge:

If it really works this is straight out of Star Trek.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:47:07am

Just got a big grocery delivery from Walmart. I offhandedly remarked to the DoorDash lady about how much I appreciated the service, especially out here in the dim boonies. She immediately started in on a Fox News mantra about supply chain problems and bare shevles, claimed she couldn’t get anything for Christmas cooking, etc. The order was $290.51, virtually all food, and every single item I ordered was there, with no cancellations and no substitutions. Btw, though brainwashed, she did deliver the goods (even if she apparently couldn’t see them right in front of her) so she will get the usual bigger than average tip.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:51:14am

re: #101 Belafon

This could be huge:

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PCR test kit - single use - will be in stock on Amazon again next week. Just looked at it - pretty cool. Be even better if you could re-use the base and buy multiple swab/vials to insert.

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Dizzy  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:52:52am

re: #11 Dread Pirate Ron

It’s following me!

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I used to get those ads. Now that I’m getting older, I have to look at ads for toe-nail fungus cures.

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2021 • 7:53:50am

re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A share of the tuition costs should be at least forgiven. That should not exist. And I thought that student debt could not be defaulted on.

there is apparently some kind of 20 year window. at least that is what my friend seems to believe. the problem with forgiving even a portion of student loans is that you then incentivize universities to up tuition, with the idea that part of it will be forgiven down the road for students. When I was seriously considering law school, more than one author of “what to expect as an L1” bemoaned the fact that when they went to law school in the early 80’s, they didn’t have to take out any loans, or the loans they took were minimal, whereas now it costs 250k to get through a fourth tier program. The reason is that there are lots of and lots of ways now to get loans for law school, so law schools have simply bumped up tuition costs, year after year.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:02:01am

re: #106 steve_davis

there is apparently some kind of 20 year window. at least that is what my friend seems to believe. the problem with forgiving even a portion of student loans is that you then incentivize universities to up tuition, with the idea that part of it will be forgiven down the road for students. When I was seriously considering law school, more than one author of “what to expect as an L1” bemoaned the fact that when they went to law school in the early 80’s, they didn’t have to take out any loans, or the loans they took were minimal, whereas now it costs 250k to get through a fourth tier program. The reason is that there are lots of and lots of ways now to get loans for law school, so law schools have simply bumped up tuition costs, year after year.

I feel so guilty, at times, that I had a full tuition scholarship to Michigan Law in the late ‘70s.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:06:07am

re: #104 darthstar

PCR test kit - single use - will be in stock on Amazon again next week. Just looked at it - pretty cool. Be even better if you could re-use the base and buy multiple swab/vials to insert.

I suspect 2.0 will be coming soon.

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Mike Lamb  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:14:49am

re: #17 Targetpractice

Even if you limit “the American people” to just adults 18+, 15% of the US adult population works out to roughly 39 million Americans carrying student debts.

Quick Google search says that the average student graduated last year with close to $30,000 in student loan debts. So let’s average that out at $10,000 because a lot of students have since begun paying off those debts. That is $390 billion in money that could be used to pull people up out of poverty that is going to a bank ledger instead.

Additionally, how does that 15% carrying student debt rate as the single most common debt? Is there another common thread running through the other 85% that the federal gov’t could forgive for those folks? Would it have the same impact? Is there something wrong with grabbing the low hanging fruit?

What about the prospect of student loan debt discouraging kids from attending college or getting a post-graduate degree? What about student loan debt discouraging graduates from entering certain professions because the pay does not able them service their debt?

I also haven’t heard anyone framing student loan forgiveness as THE number one problem, so the whole thing feels like a straw man set up from the jump.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:22:25am

re: #109 Mike Lamb

That 390 billion would be an almost immediate boost to the economy as well since those servicing their student debts would likely spend the money on other things with retailers.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:29:16am
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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:32:06am

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

The delivery woman reminds me of the lady who walks my dogs. I left my dogs with her when I visited Canada over Christmas. When I returned to pick them up, I mentioned how Ontario was going through a Covid-19 spike. She tried to belittle this by claiming that it’s just the flu. Never knew she was a Rightwinger until that very moment. Oh well.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:34:44am

re: #109 Mike Lamb

Additionally, how does that 15% carrying student debt rate as the single most common debt? Is there another common thread running through the other 85% that the federal gov’t could forgive for those folks? Would it have the same impact? Is there something wrong with grabbing the low hanging fruit?

What about the prospect of student loan debt discouraging kids from attending college or getting a post-graduate degree? What about student loan debt discouraging graduates from entering certain professions because the pay does not able them service their debt?

I also haven’t heard anyone framing student loan forgiveness as THE number one problem, so the whole thing feels like a straw man set up from the jump.

I don’t know if it’s the number one problem, but it does get support from people because student loan debt is known to force delay of other life decisions that promote investment, economic activity, and population growth (in no particular order): getting married, buying cars, homes, having kids, and investing for retirement. If you free up some percentage of student debt to reorient to those other goals, the thinking is that you’d get people spending and growing the economy rather than simply servicing debt.

The problem with this approach is that it misses the fundamental problem: student loan debt is a outgrowth of how education system values higher education, how we pay for it, and how government has unburdened itself particularly in state university systems of affordable higher education. Contain those costs, making it more affordable to go to college and having employers paying a proper wage.

If you consider all debt to be equal - debt is debt - then student loan interest is no more deserving of relief than any other kind, then allowing discharge via bankruptcy should be allowable too (since other kinds of debt can be discharged in bankruptcy).

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Patricia Kayden  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:35:19am

re: #101 Belafon

Great! I need one of those. Will wait for the price to lower from $80.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:36:38am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:39:42am

re: #87 darthstar

I periodically update my linked in profile with high level job duties. Since my title changed last year to Director I get a lot more contacts from vendors than recruiters, and a lot of the recruiter stuff is for positions I held 6 or 7 years ago…offshore keyword searching cold callers.

I checked a disused email mailbox over the weekend. It has accumulated multiple recruiter posts over the past two years. Which have all been caused by a LinkedIn account that I have not updated in a decade and is also an account I told LinkedIn to delete about seven years ago. (Which I did in a snit over their inability to carry out a password update in a timely manner and the fact that they were constantly asking for new data from me which they could then sell.)

It was also interesting to look over a bunch of the spoofed spam, grift, and phishing emails that were there as well. I presume my current email account is getting them as well, but the filters are being pretty good at shunting them into a spam folder.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:42:58am

re: #116 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I was just on my gmail looking for a verification code and deleted all 11,000 unread messages in my ‘promotions’ folder. Felt good.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:44:26am

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Crush White Nationalism  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:46:21am
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TedStriker  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:47:50am

re: #118 darthstar

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The Pie Overlord!  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:48:07am

re: #111 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Why hasn’t Twitter suspended the “Roman McClay” account?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:48:22am

Student loan forgiveness is a good idea, but unfortunately it does nothing to address the underlying problem of how stupidly fucking expensive a good education can be.

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lawhawk  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:52:13am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:55:08am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 8:56:29am
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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:02:01am

re: #33 Dangerman

But of course

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Fuck him. See no euphemism needed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:07:58am

re: #123 lawhawk

Meanwhile my social feeds are full of photos of people on vacation, at concerts, at restaurants, at bars, at sporting events…

There’s no middle ground. People are either seriously concerned about Omicron or absolutely don’t give a fuck about Covid anymore.

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A Three Hour Tour  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:13:36am

Good news on the plumbing front. The massive leak in the water pipe is out in the yard, not under the slab under the house. We won’t have to rip up the flooring inside the house and jackhammer through concrete to fix this, just dig up the front yard and replace the water-line to the house.

Still expensive, but less disruptive to life inside the home.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:17:02am

thread about that anti-vax rally in NYC

lots more insanity in the thread

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Dr Lizardo  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:20:40am

re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth

FFS, they’re a real-life version of Thulsa Doom’s cult from Conan the Barbarian.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:22:17am

re: #118 darthstar

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‘you gonna put those cones up yourself?”….

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A Cranky One  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:23:20am

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:23:42am

re: #124 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

That’s a lot of words to get around saying ‘White nationalist terrorist’

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:23:58am

Yikes! This is from Next Door Lubbock:

Most responses advise her to contact police, get her contacts with the manager in writing, and record as much as possible. This is good advice but involving the cops with a mental case is always iffy (though Lubbock police are not overly trigger happy by Texas standards). It makes me wish they still had the mental health emergency response team like they did in the 80s. If someone threatened suicide or violent intent, they sent out a team with a specially trained plain clothes cop, 2 psychiatric RNs, a counselor, and an EMT. This was paid for with a federal grant. People today are astounded that such a thing ever existed.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:24:02am

re: #131 Dangerman

‘you gonna put those cones up yourself?”….

That’s not what we meant!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:30:08am

re: #99 The Pie Overlord!

When I graduated in 1986 I had 5K in student debt. Almost my entire tuition was paid for with Pell grants.

I was lucky to graduate in 1981 without debt. I had some BEOG funding, also had Social Security (my father died when I was young) and tuition was around $300 per semester.

Had a ten-hour-a-week job University library later bussed tables at a Mexican restaurant to help cover costs.

A TA position in grad school covered most of those costs along with working occasionally as a beekeeper.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:30:40am

re: #133 darthstar

That’s a lot of words to get around saying ‘White nationalist terrorist’

wait till they come out with ‘he was a law abiding citizen up to that point’

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:31:20am

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Meanwhile my social feeds are full of photos of people on vacation, at concerts, at restaurants, at bars, at sporting events…

There’s no middle ground. People are either seriously concerned about Omicron or absolutely don’t give a fuck about Covid anymore.

Talked to a friend last night (vaccinated + boosted) who had been very serious about avoiding COVID. All his food was delivered to his door or outside pickup at the store; no inside shopping like me. Several weeks ago he relaxed his precautions and started dining indoors with friends at restaurants. Now, thanks to omicron, he is retreating inside again and avoiding all unnecessary in-person contact with others.

For years, his cleaning women have been sisters who come to his place every other week. Since the pandemic, he leaves the apartment when they are there. Turns out they weren’t vaccinated and one of them (and her husband) just came down with COVID. Now he is looking to replace them with a service that provides vaccinated house cleaners.

So at least some of those who started ignoring the pandemic are rethinking their strategy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:31:59am

re: #106 steve_davis

the problem with forgiving even a portion of student loans is that you then incentivize universities to up tuition, with the idea that part of it will be forgiven down the road for students.

Which just shows how screwed up a private university education system is.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:32:49am

re: #110 darthstar

That 390 billion would be an almost immediate boost to the economy as well since those servicing their student debts would likely spend the money on other things with retailers.

Invest in avocado toast futures.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:34:39am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which just shows how screwed up a private university education system is.

I could have gotten into a decent University without a problem, but I chose to do four years of community college instead. One of the primary reasons for that is that it cost way the hell less than University.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:34:45am

re: #115 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I’d hate to be an elementary school science teacher these days and to explain how quick “science” changes

Change = progress, and we have a word for people who complain about that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:34:50am
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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:37:02am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This seems like something knowable in advance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:37:41am

re: #128 A Three Hour Tour

Good news on the plumbing front. The massive leak in the water pipe is out in the yard, not under the slab under the house. We won’t have to rip up the flooring inside the house and jackhammer through concrete to fix this, just dig up the front yard and replace the water-line to the house.

Still expensive, but less disruptive to life inside the home.

We had a major plumbing renewal day, replaced old two-handled kitchen tap with a mixing tap and cleaned out the drain under the sink. But only because my oldest daughter threatened to let me die alone and toothless if I didn’t…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:40:41am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Probably also failed to get the MANDATORY PCR test as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:41:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:41:38am

re: #146 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Probably also failed to get the MANDATORY PCR test as well.

probably didn’t even bother

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:42:22am

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

He claims he has a sold out show in Canada. He’s trying to stir up shit with border vaccination requirements. This is why the FAA should require vaccination on all airline flights until we get to 90% vaccination or the virus disappears.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:45:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:46:55am

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:47:25am
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sagehen  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:47:45am

re: #113 lawhawk

I don’t know if it’s the number one problem, but it does get support from people because student loan debt is known to force delay of other life decisions that promote investment, economic activity, and population growth (in no particular order): getting married, buying cars, homes, having kids, and investing for retirement. If you free up some percentage of student debt to reorient to those other goals, the thinking is that you’d get people spending and growing the economy rather than simply servicing debt.

It gets support from “people” because most of the low-level staff in newsrooms and ad agencies and PACs and think tanks and hill staffers are… wait for it… recent college grads with more loans their employment can cover.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:48:53am

re: #153 sagehen

It gets support from “people” because most of the low-level staff in newsrooms and ad agencies and PACs and think tanks and hill staffers are… wait for it… recent college grads with more loans their employment can cover.

Again, because treating higher education as a commodity in America is a big social and economic mistake.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:49:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:50:12am
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jaunte  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:50:37am

re: #149 darthstar

He claims he has a sold out show in Canada.

“There are people lined up all the way across the border, waiting to get in.”

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:51:40am

re: #139 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Which just shows how screwed up a private university education system is.

the school gets paid up front.
if they had to underwrite and grant the loan, then wait to get paid and then service the debt, (ie take the actual risk), my guess is costs would come down

i believe (but cant prove) that there’s a lot of bloat in the costs because it’s not their risk and not their money

same situation with the ‘mortgage crisis’
virtually anyone could originate a loan, skim the fees, then sell off the long term servicing.
that incentivized getting everyone approved one way or another.
last bank holding the loan gets screwed

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:52:49am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

But something something cancel culture.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:54:28am
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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 9:55:58am

re: #149 darthstar

He claims he has a sold out show in Canada. He’s trying to stir up shit with border vaccination requirements. This is why the FAA should require vaccination on all airline flights until we get to 90% vaccination or the virus disappears.

i understand they do internationally

domestically fauci says we should, he would.
but it’s politically not feasible - and that’s not because ‘biden would take a hit’

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:00:38am

welp…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:02:03am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:04:22am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

It’s looking like MN is finally on the downhill side of the curve. I said that once before, but looking at the past 2 weeks of data, it looks like it’s been in a real decline. I haven’t looked at breakthrough infections vs. unvaccinated, but I’m sure the story there is nothing different than anywhere else. Vaccinations are up - 76.2% 18+, 67.4% 5+, with new shots in November the highest since May - but that’s obviously not going to be enough. I didn’t look at the county-level data yet.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:05:50am

DeWine is blaming the unvaccinated

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JC1  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:06:11am

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

DeWine is blaming the unvaccinated

He’s right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:06:47am

re: #166 JC1

He’s right.

of course he is. I’m fascinated that he is saying it out loud.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:07:07am

here’s an online link to his presser

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:08:23am
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jaunte  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:10:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:11:32am
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sagehen  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:13:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:14:39am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:16:35am

re: #170 jaunte

Yeah, you think anyone’s going to actually do that? Didn’t Abbott strike all those down anyway?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:16:37am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

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If Texas and Florida don’t experience similar surges in cases and hospitalizations, the anti-vax legions will continue to hold sway over much of the nation. If DeathSantis can no longer conceal the effects of the pandemic in his state, maybe we will have a chance at gaining control of the pandemic.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:19:23am

eejit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:22:50am
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Teddy's Person  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:23:22am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

You know who’s never scared me: a homeless person

You know who terrifies me daily: each and every elected Republican

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sagehen  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:24:00am

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

.
@Tom_Suozzi, who is running for Governor, takes a shot at @GovKathyHochul saying she “has never lived in New York City.”

“She’s never commuted on the Long Island Railroad. She’s got to come here and see this facility and walk around”

And of course when it’s a candidate who’s from NYC, they whine about s/he doesn’t understand what it’s like in the rest of the State, which is after all about 95% of NYS’s acreage…

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:27:55am

re: #19 Dread Pirate Ron

That’s some ancient porn. I saw some of those in a S.F. theater.

Mitchell Brothers?

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:29:14am

re: #175 Hecuba’s daughter

If Texas and Florida don’t experience similar surges in cases and hospitalizations, the anti-vax legions will continue to hold sway over much of the nation. If DeathSantis can no longer conceal the effects of the pandemic in his state, maybe we will have a chance at gaining control of the pandemic.

Florida Mayor Says DeSantis ‘Missing in Action’

Associated Press: “The mayor of one of Florida’s largest counties on Tuesday blasted Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, saying he has been missing in action during the latest wave of Covid-19, as some counties brought back mask mandates for government workers and other municipalities opened up new testing sites in response to overwhelming demand.”

Said Orange County Mayor Jerry Demings: “We have not received any assistance from the state of Florida at our testing sites. All Florida residents should be outraged … where is Ron DeSantis now?”

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Captain Ron  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:29:56am

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

welp…

odd

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:30:59am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is. I’m fascinated that he is saying it out loud.

Back in July, Kay Ivey did the same, but did she impose any requirements or support mandates? I don’t think so. Talk is cheap; she wouldn’t do anything to offend the brainwashed GOP masses who have been persuaded that mandates are the work of freedom hating devils, and that ivermectin cures everything.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:31:07am

Buckinghamshire, England:

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:31:49am

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

Atheist parents should visit every library in Oklahoma and demand the bible be removed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:32:24am

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

At what point does it become okay for sane people to physically fight back against these assholes?

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cat-tikvah  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:33:51am

re: #185 darthstar

But then outraged so-called Christians will target those families.
Better to have a Christian ally do it.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:34:49am

re: #187 cat-tikvah

But then outraged so-called Christians will target those families.
Better to have a Christian ally do it.

1) Atheists will be targeted anyway. Christofascists don’t need provocation.
2) They’ll target ANYBODY who dares disrespect the Bible that way. Christians killing Christians is nothing new for this world.

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:34:53am

re: #35 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I also see someone with $30K in student debt as a different thing matter a person with $30K in debt from an oversized pick-up truck, a 90” plasma screen with wrap-around sound and multiple trips to Vegas and Disneyworld…

You forgot the fiberglass/metal flake bass boat with the 200 HP outboard motor.

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:35:19am

re: #189 BeenHereAwhile

You forgot the fiberglass/metal flake bass boat with the 200 HP outboard motor.

That’s lying at the bottom of Lake Travis.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:35:49am

re: #182 Dread Pirate Ron

odd

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There was a time in the pandemic when that sent shivers up my spine and I wouldn’t go out my front door without a mask and my hands always smelled of rubbing alcohol…three shots later I merely weep for the doctors and nurses and hope they get through the wave - also, bedside manners should be waived for the unvaccinated…here, suck on this O2 and we’ll come back in four hours and increase the flow if you’re going downhill, asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:36:14am

at DeWine’s presser:

jeebus:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:36:35am

Meanwhile, as the Omicron variant runs rampant in this state, our useless GOP Governor is tweeting about…the weather.

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Teddy's Person  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:37:41am

re: #181 Dangerman

Florida Mayor Says DeSantis ‘Missing in Action’

Where is DeSantis? Between a rock and a hard place. His policy of basically ignoring covid isn’t working. Trump got booed by suggesting people get a vaccine so DeSantis can’t start encouraging people to take covid seriously. Going into hiding is about his only option at this point. Meanwhile, rona’s enjoining free rein in all the red states.

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sizzzzlerz  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:37:50am

re: #54 Patricia Kayden

Kitties have a Queen thang goin’ on here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:43:26am
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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:45:38am

re: #194 Teddy’s Person

Where is DeSantis? Between a rock and a hard place. His policy of basically ignoring covid isn’t working. Trump got booed by suggesting people get a vaccine so DeSantis can’t start encouraging people to take covid seriously. Going into hiding is about his only option at this point. Meanwhile, rona’s enjoining free rein in all the red states.

Blue states are having problems too. Per worldometer, Illinois has the highest new case level ever, a third above our previous record high, and the reported deaths for yesterday were the highest since late February. Of course, much of the problem relates to the high level of unvaccinated in blue states. But this is sweeping almost everywhere throughout this country.

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No Malarkey!  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:47:00am

re: #197 Hecuba’s daughter

Blue states are having problems too. Per worldometer, Illinois has the highest new case level ever, a third above our previous record high, and the reported deaths for yesterday were the highest since late February. Of course, much of the problem relates to the high level of unvaccinated in blue states. But this is sweeping almost everywhere throughout this country.

Outside of the Chicago metro area, Illinois is basically Indiana.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:48:45am

re: #185 darthstar

Atheist parents should visit every library in Oklahoma and demand the bible be removed.

this moronic book banning in OK isn’t quite a thing yet.

first - - he’s not worried that schools would have to also remove “The Bible,” for example, given that the Old Testament’s “Song of Songs” contains graphic sexual depictions, because he contends that schools don’t have Bibles on library shelves.

the kicker is this: Standridge said if a district refuses to remove a book, a parent would have to sue and get an arbiter.

psst: (that means $$$)

“Most likely these things will end up in court,” Standridge said. “My guess is the schools won’t comply and the parents will have to seek injunctive relief. That will be up to the trier of fact

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:52:29am

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

at DeWine’s presser:

[Embedded content]

wanna stop it all, almost instantly, and probably end the cycle?

vaccinate
mask
distance
wash

easy

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Captain Ron  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:52:34am
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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:54:17am

The stupid, it burns…

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:56:07am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

The stupid, it burns…

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does the interstate commerce commission really have jurisdiction?
(yes, i know…)

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:56:37am

re: #203 Dangerman

does the interstate commerce commission really have jurisdiction?
(yes, i know…)

They probably have more jurisdiction than the ICC does, but don’t tell these idiots that - they’ll try it, too.

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Eventual Carrion  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:57:12am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course he is. I’m fascinated that he is saying it out loud.

Dewine hasn’t been near as shitty as most repug Govs. He has been up front about the numbers and has been answering questions from reporters and regular people. I hear him on NPR giving his updates pretty often (I listen to WKSU from Kent State University). Not that he has done all he could, but he is better than most.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:57:18am

an incredible feat of pretzel logic

Conservative radio host Wayne Allyn Root wants to stage an “intervention” with Donald Trump over the former president’s support for the Covid-19 vaccine, the Daily Beast reports.

Said Root: “He’s been right on everything except this issue. He’s so horribly wrong on this issue, and the best way to put it, ironically, is that he’s dead wrong, because people are dying!”

He added: “When everyone I know dies, you are getting the blame, President Trump!”

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:59:07am

re: #203 Dangerman

does the interstate commerce commission really have jurisdiction?
(yes, i know…)

Not our ICC; in Britain. The International Criminal Court.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:59:11am

hypocrisy is their thing, not consistency

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Dopamine Fish  Dec 29, 2021 • 10:59:52am

re: #208 Dangerman

hypocrisy is their thing, not consistency

It’s saying what they think the audience wants to hear, not what they genuinely believe.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:00:01am

re: #206 Dangerman

an incredible feat of pretzel logic

Anti-vax “Conservative radio host” in the age of covid is the equivalent of wearing a red shirt in Star Trek.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:04:11am

re: #209 Dopamine Fish

It’s saying what they think the audience wants to hear, not what they genuinely believe.

Because they created the stories, infected their audience with these beliefs, and are now continuing to support these lies because they don’t care that people will die, especially given their knowledge that the death rate (overall) is 1%(unless a new more lethal variant comes around) and that most of their base will survive their encounter with this disease.

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Dangerman  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:07:55am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:09:48am

re: #212 Dangerman

Great job, crazy ass wingnuts. You’ve finally succeeded in turning the whole country red.

/

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steve_davis  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:17:59am

re: #107 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I feel so guilty, at times, that I had a full tuition scholarship to Michigan Law in the late ‘70s.

the market for schools is so lucrative that the fourth-tier schools will, if you have a signs-of-life lsat score, offer you the first year for free, knowing damned well that almost no one will have the class standing to continue the free ride for the remaining two years, and then what do you do? You either shell out the enormous tuition costs or your law school experience comes to an immediate end.

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Belafon  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:24:02am

re: #160 Dopamine Fish

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jaunte  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:24:27am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

“a deliberate attempt at genocide, which will kill a large proportion of the UK population within 18 months”

‘And if that deadline passes, we have others.’

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BeenHereAwhile  Dec 29, 2021 • 11:30:35am

re: #149 darthstar

He claims he has a sold out show in Canada. He’s trying to stir up shit with [Canadian] border vaccination requirements.

As if Canada gives a shit.

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darthstar  Dec 29, 2021 • 12:00:07pm

re: #208 Dangerman

hypocrisy is their thing, not consistency

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She’s looking to come in and be the female face of the GOP after MTG and Boebert are gone.


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