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JC1  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:21:01pm

If Trump lives long enough for Lindsay to run another term, he’ll make his life miserable.

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Captain Magic  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:39:47pm

Alabama successfully executes prisoner using Nitrogen hypoxia.

apnews.com

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Amory Blaine  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:44:54pm

America, the innovator.

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austin_blue  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:48:28pm

re: #2 Captain Magic

Alabama successfully executes prisoner using Nitrogen hypoxia.

apnews.com

Hard not to. No oxygen, no life.

Haggis time.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:49:58pm

re: #2 Captain Magic

Alabama successfully executes prisoner using Nitrogen hypoxia.

apnews.com

And the Sleazy Six on the Corrupted Court give their blessing.

Nitrogen gas is the new Zyklon B for the Fascists in the Federalist Society.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:56:49pm

re: #5 Joe Bacon ✅

And the Sleazy Six on the Corrupted Court give their blessing.

Nitrogen gas is the new Zyklon B for the Fascists in the Federalist Society.

It took 22 minutes for him to die, with minutes spent thrashing on the gurney. Lethal injection takes 2 minutes ( when they find a vein). A firing squad takes less than 1 second (when they hit the target). Hell, the horrible electrocution from Shawshank Redemption took less than 3 minutes.

Barbaric.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:59:26pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

There was some discussion here that it might be quick and painless, due to oxygen deprivation, as opposed to slow and painful asphyxiation. I don’t know if this means the State of Alabama fucked up, or if there’s some other mechanism not currently understood, but that’s a horrific way to die.

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wrenchwench  Jan 25, 2024 • 6:59:45pm

Mastodon

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:00:56pm

Well it now comes out as to why Matty Mattel booted McCarthy from the Speaker’s chair!

Matt Gaetz Privately Told Colleagues His Real Motivation for Kevin McCarthy Ouster Was Ethics Probe

Payback…

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has been adamant that his move to oust former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) was rooted in policy disagreements and wasn’t a personal vendetta related to the congressional ethics investigation against him.

In private, he told a different story.

According to private correspondence reviewed by The Daily Beast, Gaetz indicated to a friend that his effort to undercut, isolate, and ultimately remove McCarthy was, indeed, payback for the ethics probe.

The Daily Beast reviewed these communications, but is not allowed to quote from them for fear that Gaetz would be able to identify the recipient. In fact, the source who provided the communications was so nervous about retribution that The Daily Beast isn’t allowed to say in what form the correspondence took place. Suffice to say, however, it’s clear from the communications that Gaetz’s targeting of McCarthy wasn’t borne out of his concern for reckless Washington spending.

thedailybeast.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:01:17pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

It took 22 minutes for him to die, with minutes spent thrashing on the gurney. Lethal injection takes 2 minutes ( when they find a vein). A firing squad takes less than 1 second (when they hit the target). Hell, the horrible electrocution from Shawshank Redemption took less than 3 minutes.

Barbaric.

That’s a complete failure, and definitely not as advertised. It may put an end to the practice, and some people will be in real trouble after this fiasco.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:03:57pm

re: #8 wrenchwench

@jaunte.bsky.social

Not allowed through the cat door.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:04:02pm

re: #7 Nerdy Fish

There was some discussion here that it might be quick and painless, due to oxygen deprivation, as opposed to slow and painful asphyxiation. I don’t know if this means the State of Alabama fucked up, or if there’s some other mechanism not currently understood, but that’s a horrific way to die.

They (people who were consulted by the media about the effects of nitrogen suffocation) said the mask might not be airtight and air (containing oxygen) could leak inside and prolong the suffering.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:05:28pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

It took 22 minutes for him to die, with minutes spent thrashing on the gurney. Lethal injection takes 2 minutes ( when they find a vein). A firing squad takes less than 1 second (when they hit the target). Hell, the horrible electrocution from Shawshank Redemption took less than 3 minutes.

Barbaric.

Guillotine takes less than a second from the time the blade is released. Of course cleaning up is a bitch.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:07:11pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

They (people who were consulted by the media about the effects of nitrogen suffocation) said the mask might not be airtight and air (containing oxygen) could leak inside and prolong the suffering.

That would be consistent with my initial hypothesis that the State of Alabama half-assed it. Great going, guys, you done fucked up and committed a crime against humanity, to boot.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:07:33pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

Vengeance is mine, saith the State.

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:08:31pm

re: #10 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

That’s a complete failure, and definitely not as advertised. It may put an end to the practice, and some people will should be in real trouble after this fiasco.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:08:59pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

They (people who were consulted by the media about the effects of nitrogen suffocation) said the mask might not be airtight and air (containing oxygen) could leak inside and prolong the suffering.

It sounds like that’s exactly what happened. I hope the reaction to this is to stop rather than trying over and over until they get it right. We’ll see.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:09:35pm

re: #7 Nerdy Fish

There was some discussion here that it might be quick and painless, due to oxygen deprivation, as opposed to slow and painful asphyxiation. I don’t know if this means the State of Alabama fucked up, or if there’s some other mechanism not currently understood, but that’s a horrific way to die.

And that is why this was so pathological - experimentation on humans. They did not know it would turn out this way. Just like the guy in Shawshank Redemption did not know the reason for a wet sponge.

Edit: Brain fart. I meant Green Mile. Guess I can’t run for President ;-)

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:10:28pm

“…Kagan wrote that, due to the “exceptional circumstances” of the state’s attempt to use this new method of execution, they would have granted review of the case and granted Smith a stay of execution in the meantime so that the court could consider his Eighth Amendment challenge in regular order.

The majority allowing Alabama to proceed in trying to kill Smith on Thursday night — consisting of at least five of the six Republican appointees — provided no reasoning for their decision.”
lawdork.com

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:11:20pm

Seems as if the highest court should provide reasoning for its decisions.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:11:28pm

re: #14 Nerdy Fish

That would be consistent with my initial hypothesis that the State of Alabama half-assed it. Great going, guys, you done fucked up and committed a crime against humanity, to boot.

I wonder if the effects of nitrogen narcosis (which can occur in scuba divers who breathe inert gases, including nitrogen) would be on this killing method, considering the horrific effect that it has on divers.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:11:46pm

re: #20 jaunte

Seems as if the highest court should provide reasoning for its decisions.

It’s the Calvinball Court. Their reasoning basically amounts to, “Because We said so, that’s why.”

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:13:49pm

re: #18 silverdolphin

And that is why this was so pathological - experimentation on humans. They did not know it would turn out this way. Just like the guy in Shawshank Redemption did not know the reason for a wet sponge.

We’re wealthy enough that we shouldn’t have a death penalty at all. We’re able to remove people from our society to protect the public without resorting to execution. It cheapens life and clearly leads to horrifying medical experiments.

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:17:18pm

Er Shawshank…???

I think the Green Mile

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:17:31pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

It wouldn’t because its straight nitrogen. Nitrogen narcosis is from nitrogen oxide which you get under pressure at a certain depth. I have had a touch of it diving below 100 feet. Deepest dive I did was The Devil’s Throat in Cancun, only because I dove with some people the day before, and I impressed them with my diving skills. I had a dive computer that said I only had about 2 minutes at the depth I was at, before I would be decomped, (somewhere around 120 or more, I can’t remember), so I ascended about 10 feet and I had about 10 minutes, and then more and more as I came up. Do your deepest dive first, wait an hour or more to expel some of that nitrogen (it takes 24 hours, don’t fly for 12 hours after diving) and on you second dive, go much more shallow. And if you can use Nitrox, do it, (32-36% Oxygen displacing Nitrogen, we called it “Hangover Gas”)

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:19:06pm

re: #2 Captain Magic

“Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who along with two other liberal justices dissented, wrote: “Having failed to kill Smith on its first attempt, Alabama has selected him as its ‘guinea pig’ to test a method of execution never attempted before. The world is watching.”

The majority justices did not issue any statements.”

So the rightwing Catholic justices are anti-abortion but not anti-death penalty. 🤔

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:19:52pm

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

I wonder if the effects of nitrogen narcosis (which can occur in scuba divers who breathe inert gases, including nitrogen) would be on this killing method, considering the horrific effect that it has on divers.

Not likely at sea level atmospheric pressure

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:22:30pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

“Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who along with two other liberal justices dissented, wrote: “Having failed to kill Smith on its first attempt, Alabama has selected him as its ‘guinea pig’ to test a method of execution never attempted before. The world is watching.”

The majority justices did not issue any statements.”

So the rightwing Catholic justices are anti-abortion but not anti-death penalty. 🤔

Have they passed Taney yet

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:23:59pm

re: #25 Egregious Philbin

It wouldn’t because its straight nitrogen. Nitrogen narcosis is from nitrogen oxide which you get under pressure at a certain depth. I have had a touch of it diving below 100 feet. Deepest dive I did was The Devil’s Throat in Cancun, only because I dove with some people the day before, and I impressed them with my diving skills. I had a dive computer that said I only had about 2 minutes at the depth I was at, before I would be decomped, (somewhere around 120 or more, I can’t remember), so I ascended about 10 feet and I had about 10 minutes, and then more and more as I came up. Do your deepest dive first, wait an hour or more to expel that nitrogen and on you second dive, go much more shallow. And if you can use Nitrox, do it, (32-36% Oxygen displacing Nitrogen, we called it “Hangover Gas”)

LOL thanks for explaining that. I have never dived in my life, don’t plan on it. Isn’t that why people watch YouTube? I was thinking of something called “The Bends” that can happen if divers decompress too quickly, like the passengers on that Titanic submarine would have, if they weren’t squashed to death first.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:24:35pm

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:26:02pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

“Justice Sonia Sotomayor, who along with two other liberal justices dissented, wrote: “Having failed to kill Smith on its first attempt, Alabama has selected him as its ‘guinea pig’ to test a method of execution never attempted before. The world is watching.”

The majority justices did not issue any statements.”

So the rightwing Catholic justices are anti-abortion but not anti-death penalty. 🤔

Given the Catholic Church’s long and storied history of killing in the name of God, this is unsurprising.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:26:30pm
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William Lewis  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:29:07pm

re: #14 Nerdy Fish

That would be consistent with my initial hypothesis that the State of Alabama half-assed it. Great going, guys, you done fucked up and committed a crime against humanity, to boot.

Alabama - the state that can even fuck up Judicial Murder.

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:30:55pm

I didn’t know tfg testified.
Sounds like it was about as long as the stormy Daniels encounter

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:32:53pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

It took 22 minutes for him to die, with minutes spent thrashing on the gurney. Lethal injection takes 2 minutes ( when they find a vein). A firing squad takes less than 1 second (when they hit the target). Hell, the horrible electrocution from Shawshank Redemption took less than 3 minutes.

Barbaric.

My god. I will never comprehend why conventional anesthesia, followed up with a heart-stopping drug is not how they execute those that get the death penalty. Not that I would approve, capitol punishment is a throwback to barbaric practices like the rack. The media fascination with how we execute is just another symptom of a sickness within our culture.

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Dangerman  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:33:58pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

LOL thanks for explaining that. I have never dived in my life, don’t plan on it. Isn’t that why people watch YouTube? I was thinking of something called “The Bends” that can happen if divers decompress too quickly, like the passengers on that Titanic submarine would have, if they weren’t squashed to death first.

Decompression sickness is one of reasons I said last night nitrogen is biochemically inert but not biomechanically

Bubbles can kill ya

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:34:02pm

re: #26 Patricia Kayden

They’re pro-vengeance, against both criminals and women.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:34:03pm

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

The bends occur when you get too much nitrogen saturated into your body. Its like the carbon dioxide in a soda. Its in there and if you pour it correctly it doesn’t bubble out. If you shake it, all hell breaks loose. Divers who are breathing normal air (80% Nitrogen, 20% Oxygen) use tables, or now computers that track your depth, and calculate how much Nitrogen you have absorbed (you absorb more at depth, anything greater than 33 feet, because of the pressure), if you go too deep, for too long, you will absorb too much. When you dive, as you ascend, you shed some of this, on a typical dive, where you aren’t decomped, you make a safety stop at 15 feet or 5 meters for 3 minutes. Now, nitrox gas has much less nitrogen, with 32-36% Oxygen displacing the 80% nitrogen, so less nitrogen gets in your system, and you can do more dives in a day because your body is working off less nitrogen. The dive computers also can be set for Nitrox and the percentge. Then there is Tri-mix, that is a whole other subject for another day, Oxygen, Helium (or other noble gas) and much more reduced Nitrogen. However…there are depth limits to diving with more oxygen, because at certain depths, depending on how much oxygen you are breathing, you can really get into trouble, because you will go into convulsions, and bad things will happen.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:35:17pm

In somewhat mildly noteworthy news…

Former President Donald Trump will no longer be coming to Arizona this week, where he was scheduled to speak during a GOP rally Friday evening in Phoenix. The AZGOP Freedom Fest has also been canceled, an Arizona Republican Party spokesperson confirmed to Arizona’s Family.

Trump was scheduled to be the keynote speaker at the event. Other speakers who were scheduled to appear included Congress members Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar and Eli Crane, as well as U.S. Senate candidate Kari Lake, Abe Hamadeh, Charlie Kirk and Tyler Bowyer. Tickets to the event were sold through eventbrite, and a state GOP spokesperson says refunds will be issued.

The announcement that Trump wouldn’t be coming to Arizona was made soon after the former president briefly took the stand in a New York defamation trial that will determine how much he could owe advice columnist E. Jean Carroll. It’s unclear if the trial had any bearing on the decision to cancel the trip.

The news also comes a day after the Chairman of the Arizona Republican Party resigned. Jeff DeWit stepped down amid pressure after a British tabloid released secretly recorded audio clips of him reportedly trying to bribe Lake to keep her from running for U.S. Senate.

azfamily.com

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:36:30pm

re: #37 jaunte

They’re pro-vengeance, against both criminals and women.

Somehow we can’t extend the mercy shown in how we euthanise stray animals in how we kill certain kinds of criminals. Revenge is for the morally/intellectually weak.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:37:34pm

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

Trust me, we are all rejoicing in the Valley of the Sun.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:37:52pm

re: #40 Rightwingconspirator

It seems to have a large constituency in the U.S. Maybe 20-25% of voters.

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austin_blue  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:38:36pm

I don’t think torturing a prisoner for twenty minutes while killing him is out of bounds.

Playing with your prey is perfectly reasonable if you are protecting your populace. Desperate times call for desperate measures, ask any cat.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:39:34pm

re: #35 Rightwingconspirator

My god. I will never comprehend why conventional anesthesia, followed up with a heart-stopping drug is not how they execute those that get the death penalty. Not that I would approve, capitol punishment is a throwback to barbaric practices like the rack. The media fascination with how we execute is just another symptom of a sickness within our culture.

No licensed anesthesiologist in the US will do this. They would lose their license. As should any other doctor involved. I wonder if Alabama used a doctor or not?

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:41:43pm

Good.

Over 50 years ago, the late and great George Carlin listed off the seven words you couldn’t say on television. Based on a lawsuit from the iconic comedian’s estate filed in federal court in California today, at least two of those words may apply to the creators of an AI generated special that uses Carlin’s style and voice to a 2024 effect.

AKA: “a bastardization of Carlin’s real work,” the copyright infringement complaint says.

“Defendants’ AI-generated “George Carlin Special” is not a creative work,” it goes on to exclaim. “It is a piece of computer-generated click-bait which detracts from the value of Carlin’s comedic works and harms his reputation.”

“Defendants sought to capitalize on the name, reputation, and likeness of George Carlin in creating, promoting, and distributing the Dudesy Special and using generated images of Carlin, Carlin’s voice, and images designed to evoke Carlin’s presence on a stage,” states the filing, put in the federal docket in California Thursday against podcast hosts Will Sasso and Chad Kultgen and a handful of John Does.

“No Comedic or Creative Value”: George Carlin’s Estate Takes Online AI Version Of Comedy Icon To Court (Deadline)

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:43:35pm

re: #41 Egregious Philbin

Trust me, we are all rejoicing in the Valley of the Sun.

Quite understandable. I wonder what was the reason behind all this - on the surface, sounds like the AZ GOP is wracked with scandal and infighting, much like their counterparts in Michigan.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:44:19pm

Oh, I was optimistic. Gallup says 53% in favor of death penalty.
news.gallup.com

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:45:33pm

Okay… Went out to dinner at our local Italian place and had a good lasagna so I’m back in my own skin again.

Unfortunate timing put us next to Darla…a local trans woman who is quite lonely and will strike up an unending conversation with whomever is next to her. Tonight it was me. Still a pleasant experience overall and we chatted with her until we got the check and made our escape. She over shares. Starts to get awkward after a while. Talked about everything from taking her son to Tahoe to skiing in Michigan (didn’t challenge) to her divorce to her mom’s estate to her discomfort with the sports bra she was wearing.

Just in case you thought I was exaggerating with the over sharing part.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:48:20pm

re: #47 jaunte

Oh, I was optimistic. Gallup says 53% in favor of death penalty.
news.gallup.com

I did not expect it to be that high either. Mistrust of the government is high in America, but that many people are OK with the government killing Americans anyway.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:48:33pm

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

They went from having like a half a million dollars in their war chest to 50,000, and now they are at 15,000. DeWit tried to inject some logic, but Lake wants to run the show. Her campaign is floundering, she is a creepy assed snitch taping everyone she speaks with. This will not help her, the AZ republican folks are gonna ace her out, and if she gets her people in power, they won’t be able to raise any $. Who knows if Sinema even runs for re-election, there is no scenario where she gets more than 20-30%. If it comes down to Gallego vs Lake, Reuben kicks her ass, by much more than a week ago when these shenanigans came to light.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:49:14pm

re: #43 austin_blue

I don’t think torturing a prisoner for twenty minutes while killing him is out of bounds.

Playing with your prey is perfectly reasonable if you are protecting your populace. Desperate times call for desperate measures, ask any cat.

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This explains why they fucked up - they did not follow the information from those who have followed right to die patients.

You do not use a facemask. Because the gasps of the person break the seal, allowing him to grab breaths of air. And a beard, which he had, also prevents a tight seal. Finally, as he loses consciousness, his face become more flaccid, again allowing the seal to be broken. If this does not eventually result in death, it will cause brain damage (I wonder if they will look at this in an autopsy?)

This doctor predicted this. He testified in court about the right way to do this - a pod that surrounds the entire head and can be closed off. The Supreme Court conservatives have blood on their hands for this crime against humanity.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:50:42pm

re: #49 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

“Well, they would never kill me.”

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:51:00pm

Lock this fucker up now.

Mastodon

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austin_blue  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:54:49pm

And the vegetarian version of a haggis with the whiskey cream sauce was good.

You can’t make a proper Haggis in the US because lungs cannot be used as an ingredient in anything. So, the proper Haggis requirement that it uses the ground portions of a Sheep’s Pluck (the liver, heart, and lungs) is taboo in the US.

Oh, by the way, the term “lights” referring to an animal’s lungs became the source of a boxer getting his “lights punched out”.

It wasn’t about him getting his lights turned off, it was about him getting his ribs so battered that he couldn’t breathe.

And night all. Sweet scaly dreams.

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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:57:33pm

WE shouldn’t be killing people.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:58:59pm

re: #49 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

I did not expect it to be that high either. Mistrust of the government is high in America, but that many people are OK with the government killing Americans anyway.

But according to Pew Research, the support has dropped 6-7% since 2019. So perhaps things are changing. This support is not absolute, with almost 80% worried about innocent people being killed because there are not enough safeguard. And most recognize it hurts minorities more than Whites.

But Pew also showed that support is very different if one uses phone calls or online polls. Support drops almost 15% using the phone. So the numbers are pretty soft if the method used makes that much difference.

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austin_blue  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:59:34pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

WE shouldn’t be killing people.

Of course not, but so many of us just LOVE seeing it happen.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 7:59:43pm

re: #55 teleskiguy

WE shouldn’t be killing people.

Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and other countries do it… Why shouldn’t we aspire to the same standards?
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Yes. It is shameful.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:06:25pm

We will never stop the wrong people from getting guns.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:07:17pm

re: #58 darthstar

Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and other countries do it… Why shouldn’t we aspire to the same standards?
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Yes. It is shameful.

And the Shameful Six on the SCOTUS have blood on their hands for this crime against humanity. Experimenting on humans like this is some Nazi-level shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:07:20pm

re: #51 silverdolphin

That explains it. I (admittedly not a doctor) was of the opinion that nitrogen execution would likely only be truly effective in a purpose-built gas chamber, which - if I’m not mistake - Arizona does indeed have.

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jaunte  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:10:39pm

@thx4sharingjerk.bsky.social

One thing that isn’t ever mentioned: Closing the border and beginning the process of deporting undocumented immigrants will immediately shut down the hotel, restaurant, and construction industries and create a overnight economic recession

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:11:49pm

re: #61 Dr Lizardo

That explains it. I (admittedly not a doctor) was of the opinion that nitrogen execution would likely only be truly effective in a purpose-built gas chamber, which - if I’m not mistake - Arizona does indeed have.

Yep, that is how it is done. So-called Suicide bags allow the expelled Carbon dioxide to be released, allowing only nitrogen to be breathed in (The doctor in the original article I referenced is itsw inventor.). But it has become harder to get nitrogen gas because of the possibility it will be used for suicide.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:15:55pm

re: #63 silverdolphin

A simple non rebreather mask (used by paramedics everywhere) and a tank of inert gas will do the trick.

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Captain Ron  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:19:36pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:20:23pm

re: #44 silverdolphin

No licensed anesthesiologist in the US will do this. They would lose their license. As should any other doctor involved. I wonder if Alabama used a doctor or not?

Same problem as the drugs involved. Not even the makers of oxy contin can sell drugs to the state that would use them to kill.

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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:20:55pm
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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:23:32pm

re: #62 jaunte

@thx4sharingjerk.bsky.social

And how in the world will they move 10 million people? This would make it one of the largest in human history. So the economic impacts are not onluy fropm loss of workers but the trillions reauired to root them out and move them. But to where?

This is all BS. The problem we have is not that a huge number of illegal migrants are entering the country - that has not changed in a decade. What we are seeing is a large number of legal migrants, who enter the US and go through a judicial process. If we want to get them out of the US faster, give Biden more judges. He has already removed more of these migrants than Trump did. Biden returns a majority of these migrants while Trump only returned less than 50%. In absolute terms, Biden is returning 3.5 times as many to their countries as Trump is. And that is from the Cato Institute. All this crap about an invasion and Biden doing nothing is BS. He is following the law and anyone who claims it is an open border is a liar. But the media does not fight back at all.

Give him more judges and he will remove those who are not asylum seekers faster.

But the GOP won’t. It would rather violate Federal law.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:24:16pm

re: #45 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Good.

“No Comedic or Creative Value”: George Carlin’s Estate Takes Online AI Version Of Comedy Icon To Court (Deadline)

I thought satire and parody were protected by the First Amendment?

The creators straight up say the voice in the video is not George Carlin.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:25:48pm

re: #65 Captain Ron

Of course the replies are infested with anti-vaxxers instantly blaming covid shot, but …

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:26:34pm

re: #69 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought satire and parody were protected by the First Amendment?

The creators straight up say the voice in the video is not George Carlin.

This will be an interesting test. How far can you go, which is always the question even without the algorithms.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:28:38pm

re: #64 darthstar

A simple non rebreather mask (used by paramedics everywhere) and a tank of inert gas will do the trick.

The problem is that a hard seal has to be made with the face. Apparently any sort of plastic facemask can open up breaks along the mask as the person fights. And beards also can prevent a hard seal. These can allow air to get in, mixing with the nitrogen and extending the death process. This is what right-to-die people have seen and warned against.

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teleskiguy  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:32:31pm
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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:34:14pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:38:03pm

re: #72 silverdolphin

The problem is that a hard seal has to be made with the face. Apparently any sort of plastic facemask can open up breaks along the mask as the person fights. And beards also can prevent a hard seal. These can allow air to get in, mixing with the nitrogen and extending the death process. This is what right-to-die people have seen and warned against.

If you’re going to off yourself what the fuck is the point of keeping the beard? This is how you know people aren’t discussing the topic honestly.

Oh…poor dudebro is still alive to realize his crypto losses because he spent three years building the perfect mountain man cos play beard. Woe is he.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:40:18pm

re: #71 Belafon

This will be an interesting test. How far can you go, which is always the question even without the algorithms.

IANAL. But parody, which must use the original work in its criticism, is protected under fair use. Satire may not be, depending on the circumstances. So using a song melody with new lyrics to make fun of the song is parody and is likely covered by fair use. But using a song melody to make fun of something entirely different is satire and may not be . It then fmay require a court to determine fair use.

I think it is very likely that using unlicensed versions of Carlin’s performances to create novel works would be covered under satire. But since they are trying to make money or notoriety purely using Carlin’s image/voice, the best one can say is it is satire and I suspect that fair use does not fit.

Only the courts can tell us.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:41:09pm

Also, a hard seal isn’t necessary to make a person a true MAGAt. Seven minutes of nitrogen and minimal oxygen will turn you into a vegetable… maybe not a turnip, but at least a squash.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:42:58pm

re: #75 darthstar

If you’re going to off yourself what the fuck is the point of keeping the beard? This is how you know people aren’t discussing the topic honestly.

Oh…poor dudebro is still alive to realize his crypto losses because he spent three years building the perfect mountain man cos play beard. Woe is he.

Yep, but apparently the man murdered in Alabama by the state had a beard and they did not shave it, from the reports I have seen. And they used a plastic mask, pretty much explaining why it took over 20 minutes for him to day, with him thrashing in the gurney for minutes. If that is so, then the state should be open to a wrongful death suit.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:43:14pm

re: #45 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

George’s daughter Kelli is an amazing person, bright, funny and realistic, she wrote an amazing book and has appeared on several podcasts to talk about her experiences. She is 100% in the right on this, I hope she wins bigly.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:43:34pm

re: #77 darthstar

Also, a hard seal isn’t necessary to make a person a true MAGAt. Seven minutes of nitrogen and minimal oxygen will turn you into a vegetable… maybe not a turnip, but at least a squash.

I expect that if they do a full autopsy, they will find brain damage from the hypoxia.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:44:01pm

Listening to random Natalie Merchant songs on Alexa right now. She’s got a soothing voice. Coming to town this spring. She’s my age. May try to get tickets when it gets closer.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:44:49pm

re: #53 darthstar

Lock this fucker up now.

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It’s always the same bullshit, always the same bait-and-switch. Scream that we’re being “invaded,” that the “hordes” are at the gates, and that we need to “do something.” So immigration reform is proposed, dealing with the reality of millions already here and millions more wishing to move here. Cue squealing that we can’t talk reform until we’ve “secured the border” and “removed all the ‘illegals’” from every state.

Then you ask them what they’d propose to do if that hypothetical situation were ever reached…and they admit they still wouldn’t talk reform, because their goal was only ever to get Dems to agree with them to kick all the “illegals” out.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:45:42pm

re: #78 silverdolphin

Yep, but apparently the man murdered in Alabama by the state had a beard and they did not shave it, from the reports I have seen. And they used a plastic mask, pretty much explaining why it took over 20 minutes for him to day, with him thrashing in the gurney for minutes. If that is so, then the state should be open to a wrongful death suit.

Oh shit. I didn’t realize Alabama fucked up the “humane” execution. That sucks.

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:46:23pm


More power to her.

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piratedan  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:47:42pm

re: #81 darthstar

If you run out of her songs, give The Sundays a try, especially Here’s Where The Story Ends….

The Sundays - Here’s Where The Story Ends

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:48:51pm

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:48:57pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

It’s always the same bullshit, always the same bait-and-switch. Scream that we’re being “invaded,” that the “hordes” are at the gates, and that we need to “do something.” So immigration reform is proposed, dealing with the reality of millions already here and millions more wishing to move here. Cue squealing that we can’t talk reform until we’ve “secured the border” and “removed all the ‘illegals’” from every state.

Then you ask them what they’d propose to do if that hypothetical situation were ever reached…and they admit they still wouldn’t talk reform, because their goal was only ever to get Dems to agree with them to kick all the “illegals” out.

Biden is removing 3.5 times more migrants per month than Trump did. He could remove more if they gave him more judges. The number of undocumented migrants has not changed in a decade - about 10 million, Those coming across are not undocumented and they are being removed. There is no invasion and no open border.

So why does everyone believe the liars? I blame the media, where many of the MSM still call them illegal migrants instead of reporting they are following the law and this lawful migrants.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:49:44pm

re: #84 DodgerFan1988

There’s a whole genre of porn focused on fake images and videos of celebrities. It usually ranges from not great to laughably bad.

But with the A.I. improvements we are seeing, I believe the situation Taylor has found herself in will be an ongoing problem for the foreseeable future.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:51:07pm

re: #78 silverdolphin

Yep, but apparently the man murdered in Alabama by the state had a beard and they did not shave it, from the reports I have seen. And they used a plastic mask, pretty much explaining why it took over 20 minutes for him to day, with him thrashing in the gurney for minutes. If that is so, then the state should be open to a wrongful death suit.

It reads to me as their state trying to do the execution on the cheap. Why get a special air-tight helmet and spend time shaving the inmate when you can just grab a canister of nitrogen and a surgical mask from the prison infirmary? So what if the guy thrashes around for 22 minutes, the end goal was achieved and they got bonus points for it being painful and disturbing to watch. There’s at least one asshole in the next meeting that is going to argue that advertising it will take 20+ minutes to die by this method of execution could act as a “deterrent,” in the same way other states used to advertise how long and painful being executed by electric chair was.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:51:19pm

re: #83 darthstar

Oh shit. I didn’t realize Alabama fucked up the “humane” execution. That sucks.

Yep. Here is a description of the ordeal.

The execution took about 22 minutes, and Smith appeared to remain conscious for several minutes. For at least two minutes, he appeared to shake and writhe on the gurney, sometimes pulling against the restraints. That was followed by several minutes of heavy breathing, until breathing was no longer perceptible.

Experts told theState and the courts that using a face mask on a bearded man was a recipe for disaster, having learned the hard way the proper procedure. They were right.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:52:47pm

re: #90 silverdolphin

Sounds intentional… And evil

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HypnoToad  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:54:45pm

re: #90 silverdolphin

This may not have been a fuck-up. They might have wanted him to suffer, either as a ‘deterrent’ or because they are sick bastards. I don’t see how they could have messed this up so badly otherwise.

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darthstar  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:56:02pm

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piratedan  Jan 25, 2024 • 8:57:03pm

re: #92 HypnoToad

“casual cruelty” is part of their MO. We’ve got too many examples to think it’s just a coincidence.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:00:10pm

re: #92 HypnoToad

This may not have been a fuck-up. They might have wanted him to suffer, either as a ‘deterrent’ or because they are sick bastards. I don’t see how they could have messed this up so badly otherwise.

I’m thinking a wrongful death suit might open some eyes. His family was present.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:02:43pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

There’s a whole genre of porn focused on fake images and videos of celebrities. It usually ranges from not great to laughably bad.

But with the A.I. improvements we are seeing, I believe the situation Taylor has found herself in will be an ongoing problem for the foreseeable future.

Almost anyone will be able to generate these images for private use. But I expect that distributing these will be a crime. Especially to make money off of her image. No fair use protection there, I believe. I mean, one cannot sell images of Disney princesses without licensing. If someone legitametly wants to sell T-shirts with Taylor’s miage, they have to license.

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HypnoToad  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:03:26pm

re: #90 silverdolphin

The proper way to use inert gas asphyxiation requires a fair volume of the inert gas around the condemmed, not the small amount contained under a mask. When you breathe, you do not use all of the oxygen you take in with each breath, a lot is exhaled. That is recirculated within a mask, prolonging the procedure even if the mask is tightly sealed. You need the volume of something like a small room to dilute this exhaled O2 quickly.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:09:13pm

re: #97 HypnoToad

The proper way to use inert gas asphyxiation requires a fair volume of the inert gas around the condemmed, not the small amount contained under a mask. When you breathe, you do not use all of the oxygen you take in with each breath, a lot is exhaled. That is recirculated within a mask, prolonging the procedure even if the mask is tightly sealed. You need the volume of something like a small room to dilute this exhaled O2 quickly.

Actually, a small bag that fits over the head can work. It only works with gases less dense than air (like nitrogen or helium). The exhaled gases flow out the bottom as the bag is filled with the inert gas.

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:12:39pm

re: #87 silverdolphin

Biden is removing 3.5 times more migrants per month than Trump did. He could remove more if they gave him more judges. The number of undocumented migrants has not changed in a decade - about 10 million, Those coming across are not undocumented and they are being removed. There is no invasion and no open border.

So why does everyone believe the liars? I blame the media, where many of the MSM still call them illegal migrants instead of reporting they are following the law and this lawful migrants.

For the same reason that the lie has been around for ages: Because if you’re creative enough, you can blame practically anything on immigrants.

No jobs? Immigrants took all of them.

Everything’s more expensive? Immigrants are holding wages down.

Schools falling apart? Immigrant kids sucking up resources.

Neighborhood gone to shit? All those immigrants moving in.

Of course, these are lies that are so old and worn that you can easily swap in whatever group you want to rage against in with little effort. Why? Because people who want excuses for why their life has gone to shit will always be willing to blame “The Other” rather than take responsibility for their actions.

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HypnoToad  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:15:38pm

The slight density differences might not be enough by themselves. You should maintain some positive pressure in the bag to ensure that exhaled air flows out and is replaced by the inert gas. The reason the NASA accident I mentioned yesterday was so quick was the larger volume inside the engine compartment of the shuttle. Because of that incident, all labs NASA wide had O2 monitors installed if they had any kind of compressed gases in use. Or LN2 cryo as well!

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:21:42pm

‘Misogynist’: Internet explodes after GOPer says veterinarian job means he knows abortion

The ads write themselves. Equating women to animals. Saying his veterinary tarining makes him capable of making medical decisions.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:35:24pm

I just read just how fucked Alabama is. Kenneth Eugene Smith had his first trial through out. In his second trial, the jury recommended 11-1 that he get life in prison. The judge overruled this and sentenced him to death. This law allowing the judge to do this has since been repealed. But that did not stop them from putting the man to death.

So much for a jury trial. I thought that was in the constitution.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:38:57pm

The method to Donald Trump’s madness

Sure, he may be strengthening his grip on his base. But a lot of the necesssary suburban moms he need sto have a shot will not appreciate how he treats her, seeing as how it fits right in with how he treats E. Jean Carroll.They already are worried about abortion rights. Add misogyny and he might well lose too much of the woman’s vote.

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Belafon  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:40:08pm

When your throat is sore, those giant liquid gel pills are very hard to swallow.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:52:06pm

re: #31 Nerdy Fish

Given the Catholic Church’s long and storied history of killing in the name of God, this is unsurprising.

Doctrines can change.

“On August 2, 2018, the Vatican announced that it had formally changed the official Catechism of the Catholic Church on the death penalty, calling capital punishment “an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person” and deeming it “inadmissible” in all cases.”

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Targetpractice  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:54:51pm

re: #103 silverdolphin

The method to Donald Trump’s madness

Sure, he may be strengthening his grip on his base. But a lot of the necesssary suburban moms he need sto have a shot will not appreciate how he treats her, seeing as how it fits right in with how he treats E. Jean Carroll.They already are worried about abortion rights. Add misogyny and he might well lose too much of the woman’s vote.

Within the course of 72 hours, three things happened that would have made practically any other campaign shit their pants:

1. Trump came out of barely winning New Hampshire to growl that the party belongs to him, that Nikki Haley is opposing him, and thus any who support her past NH have no place in the party.

2. It was revealed that the GQP leadership appear to realize just how damaging the primaries are to Trump and so put forward a draft motion to just declare him the winner now and fuck the opinion of anybody not already in his camp.

3. Trump ordered the Senate GQP to kill the very conservative immigration reform bill under consideration because he wants to run on “SCARY ILLEGALS!!!”…and the immediate response from the Senate GQP leadership after days of beating the MAGAts in their caucus over the head with how good this bill is for them was “Yes, Mr. Soprano.”

The overall message is simple: If you’re a “moderate” or “independent” who planned to make-believe anybody but Trump had a chance in the primaries and then hold your nose to vote for him in November, then you’ve no place in the party anymore. If you’re not already wearing a scarlet “T” armband and marching in lockstep, then you’re no longer a member of the party in good standing and that will be reflected in how you are treated going forward.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:56:25pm

re: #49 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

They aren’t mistrustful of government. They’re distrustful of government that doesn’t behave the way they think the government should behave. They don’t like being ‘losers’.

Which is how they think when they ‘lose’ an election.

Someone should explain to them that an activity based on competition is an activity that consists mostly of losers.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 25, 2024 • 9:58:05pm

re: #6 silverdolphin

It took 22 minutes for him to die, with minutes spent thrashing on the gurney. Lethal injection takes 2 minutes ( when they find a vein). A firing squad takes less than 1 second (when they hit the target). Hell, the horrible electrocution from Shawshank Redemption took less than 3 minutes.

Barbaric.

I hope the witnesses saw the prolonged agony and will remember it for the rest of their lives. The whole damn state should be ashamed

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:00:20pm

The Rise & Fall of the Second Trump Reich: Tick Tock…

Nice fiction but fiction is all it is. It depicts no agency for anyone against Trump. But the military and the police and even the militias he raises are not enough to subdue his enemies. They could maybe subdue California and New York. But not Texas and Floridxa, which have more Democrats than any state but California. The US is just too populous and too large for these tactics to easily work. And power is just too dispersed.

The military is not just going to follow his orders, especially after outlawing the Democratic party. And the logistics to move what he has around the ciuntry would be horrendous.

But the main thing ignored are the economic effects. Kill the California economy and the US fails. Talk about a depression. Almost all trade goes thrugh the ports in Blue states. DIsrupt those and things go south quickly. Poland communism fell because of the port workers. Trump would not have business behind him.

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William Lewis  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:02:48pm

re: #108 sizzzzlerz

I hope the witnesses saw the prolonged agony and will remember it for the rest of their lives. The whole damn state should be ashamed

NPR had this story the other day:

Carrying out executions took a secret toll on workers — then changed their politics

Pretending to die isn’t typically part of a correctional officer’s job. But when the court issues a death warrant, there’s often a team that has to rehearse the execution of the prisoner. In Nevada, one of the people they practiced on was officer Catarino Escobar.

Escobar wasn’t nervous when his colleagues handcuffed him and escorted him out of the holding cell. But then the officers took him into the gas chamber. About the size of a bathroom stall, the room is framed with large bay windows so people can watch from outside as prisoners take their last breaths. It was inside that space that something strange started to happen to him.

As the officers strapped Escobar down to the gurney, his vision narrowed. He yearned for his mother, then his brother. Escobar wanted his family with him, he said, because for what felt like 20 minutes, he was absolutely certain his life was over.

“I wasn’t acting or playing,” said Escobar. “I believed that I was being executed.”

During the past 50 years, more than 1,550 death sentences have been carried out across the U.S. Hundreds of people like Escobar played a role in each of those executions, and again, hundreds of others are getting to work. Five states scheduled seven executions over the last two months of 2022 alone.

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:04:03pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

The overall message is simple: If you’re a “moderate” or “independent” who planned to make-believe anybody but Trump had a chance in the primaries and then hold your nose to vote for him in November, then you’ve no place in the party anymore. If you’re not already wearing a scarlet “T” armband and marching in lockstep, then you’re no longer a member of the party in good standing and that will be reflected in how you are treated going forward.

I expect we will see some intereting things happening on Fox News. And some of those billionaires that want to prevent their employees from leaving en mass are going to have some interesting tap dancing to do. I think he is really going to alienate a lot of the business sector. And Biden will know how to sweep them up. The progressives may not like it but it will assure Biden the election.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:10:18pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:16:07pm

re: #100 HypnoToad

MRI machines have gas alarms for the same reason. If liquid helium gets out and vents, it’ll displace the oxygen in the MRI room.

I also read that San Quentin had a gas chamber that was taken out of service because the gas used was very corrosive, and would attack the seals, endangering the techs and the witnesses.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:16:25pm

Motherfather is playing with fire and he and his stooges are gonna get burned.

Trump Calls for ‘All Willing States’ to Deploy National Guard Troops to Texas

Amid Texas’ spat with the federal government over razor wire along the U.S.-Mexico border, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is calling on “all willing States to deploy their [national] guards to Texas to prevent the entry of Illegals, and to remove them back across the Border.” Trump’s comments on Truth Social Thursday came a day after the Supreme Court ruled against Texas’ Republican governor and attorney general by allowing border patrol agents to remove the wire. Trump added that he would “work hand in hand” with Abbott, who has defended his controversial immigration policies by saying that “the only thing that we’re not doing is we’re not shooting people who come across the border, because of course the Biden administration would charge us with murder.”

thedailybeast.com

If this ain’t sedition.
If this ain’t rebellion.
What the F is?

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silverdolphin  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:39:38pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon ✅

Motherfather is playing with fire and he and his stooges are gonna get burned.

Trump Calls for ‘All Willing States’ to Deploy National Guard Troops to Texas

Amid Texas’ spat with the federal government over razor wire along the U.S.-Mexico border, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is calling on “all willing States to deploy their [national] guards to Texas to prevent the entry of Illegals, and to remove them back across the Border.” Trump’s comments on Truth Social Thursday came a day after the Supreme Court ruled against Texas’ Republican governor and attorney general by allowing border patrol agents to remove the wire. Trump added that he would “work hand in hand” with Abbott, who has defended his controversial immigration policies by saying that “the only thing that we’re not doing is we’re not shooting people who come across the border, because of course the Biden administration would charge us with murder.”

thedailybeast.com

If this ain’t sedition.
If this ain’t rebellion.
What the F is?

Insurrection for sure. And like the South in 1860, it expects Biden to do nothing. I bet a lot of those National Guardsmen would love not to have to go down to hot as hell in Texas that is that part of the Rio Grande.

Maybe they should read up on the Nullification Crisis, when President Jackson said:

Yes I have; please give my compliments to my friends in your State and say to them, that if a single drop of blood shall be shed there in opposition to the laws of the United States, I will hang the first man I can lay my hand on engaged in such treasonable conduct, upon the first tree I can reach.

What will they do if Biden federalizes the Texas National Guard and requires them, along with the Border Patrol, to follow his orders or face courts martial? Orders like dealing with legal migrants legally, perhaps in collaboration with Mexico. Maybe set up camps across the Rio Grande from the park and use the riverrine forces of the Coast Guard to bring them to entry points.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:45:53pm

re: #114 Joe Bacon ✅

So they’re not shooting people because President Biden would charge them with murder. It has nothing to do with it actually BEING MURDER? Republicans must be missing the texts in the Bible where Jesus talks about helping strangers. Who Would Jesus Shoot?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 25, 2024 • 10:49:17pm

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

So they’re not shooting people because President Biden would charge them with murder. It has nothing to do with it actually BEING MURDER? Republicans must be missing the texts in the Bible where Jesus talks about helping strangers. Who Would Jesus Shoot?

Right Wing Jay-Zuss would gladly shoot anyone who ain’t a follower of his Anointed King Trump.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 26, 2024 • 12:03:19am

re: #113 Sherlock Hound

I managed the plating baths and rinse tanks for a chrome plating shop, plus racked and ran a few tons of parts. One of the processes used (Rochelle copper plating) was used to start the plating process for metals that are reactive in an acid plating bath, such as raw steel. The copper, nickle & chrome baths are all acid based and the Rochelle process is alkaline based (base based? ;) ) and we used cyanide. Fun stuff to work with, not!

A steel part (or a repaired chromed steel part) is prepared for plating (one of the steps uses hydrofluoric acid, real toxic stuff) suspended in the plating tank, forming the cathode and sacrificial copper slugs are suspended from the anodes (a row of ‘sacks’ hung on each side of the tank with the cathode down the middle, think huge tank).

The real fun was pulling the part (imagine giant 1940 bumpers, for example) after the copper strike (term used for quick thin layer of copper electroplating) and tipping it back and forth to try and drain all of the cyanide solution from it. Once you think you got it all you lift it up and move to the first drag-back rinse tank for a rinse. Drain it as good as possible and move to the second drag-back rinse and repeat.

Then off to a quick 10% sulfuric acid rinse under a huge hood that sucks up the fumes (you hope) and watch for puffs of smoke (or not). Then it’s off to the acid bath tanks and more fun! The drag-back rinse is uses water from the first rinse to refill the heated (non-aerated) cyanide plating tank. The second tank would refill the first when it was low and the second would be refilled with fresh water.

It was an interesting job and gave me something to do with the chem stuff I learned at community college. I got hired because they had a calcium buildup problem in their nickle plating tank (heated, aerated bath and hard local water). I came up with the solution (sodium bifluoride), how much and spent a weekend with the owner precipitating and filtering out a whole lot of calcium. Got a new job (company I was working for was going through bankruptcy) and was able to plate the rear axle in our Mustang and a lot more while living dangerously with modern science.

Very toxic work. I left about six months later to be the head mechanic at a marine dealership, which was a whole ‘nother nightmare…lol!

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 12:54:40am

Poor Alabama. First time we try to do something innovative and scientific-y, and everyone shits all over us.

(It’s stupid to argue over the technology to do something evil. Stop the death penalty.)

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Jan 26, 2024 • 1:56:34am

re: #53 darthstar

Lock this fucker up now.

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I expect Trump wanted a payoff in order to support the immigration deal. That’s how a king or boss works - he gets his cut in order to give his blessing. Otherwise he will act to put the kibosh on it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 2:02:19am

re: #35 Rightwingconspirator

My god. I will never comprehend why conventional anesthesia, followed up with a heart-stopping drug is not how they execute those that get the death penalty. Not that I would approve, capitol punishment is a throwback to barbaric practices like the rack. The media fascination with how we execute is just another symptom of a sickness within our culture.

Because that would have to be administered by a doctor and doctors are forbidden to do so due to their Hippocratic Oath

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 26, 2024 • 2:09:04am

Well, this wasn’t a good time. 6/6

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 2:29:08am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Tough one.

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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2024 • 2:38:18am

re: #120 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I expect Trump wanted a payoff in order to support the immigration deal. That’s how a king or boss works - he gets his cut in order to give his blessing. Otherwise he will act to put the kibosh on it.

Trump is desperate for a big issue to run on, and so far reality refuses to abide. Despite his biggest wishes and the efforts of the House GQP, the economy keeping refusing to crash and voters are beginning to take notice. He also thought Biden would be impeached by now, but that dog-and-pony show still continues to go nowhere fast. Every attempt he’s made to try to present himself as a “moderate” on issues like healthcare reform and abortion has been laughed at. And Ukraine continues to fight on despite assumptions that it would fold within a year. So he’s asking the Senate GQP to sabotage the only real hope in ages of getting immigration reform done simply so he can spend the next few months screaming “SCARY ILLEGALS!!!” in that increasingly ridiculous belief of the GQP that attracting new voters and winning back old ones isn’t as important as getting the base fired up.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:30:26am

re: #62 jaunte

@thx4sharingjerk.bsky.social

No it won’t.
Proud Americans deprived of those jobs (because furriners took them) will rush to fill them

//

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:39:17am

re: #91 darthstar

Sounds intentional… And evil

Callous and indifferent at best

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:44:22am

re: #102 silverdolphin

I just read just how fucked Alabama is. Kenneth Eugene Smith had his first trial through out. In his second trial, the jury recommended 11-1 that he get life in prison. The judge overruled this and sentenced him to death. This law allowing the judge to do this has since been repealed. But that did not stop them from putting the man to death.

So much for a jury trial. I thought that was in the constitution.

He got his jury trial, now let him enforce it

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:45:57am

re: #106 Targetpractice

Within the course of 72 hours, three things happened that would have made practically any other campaign shit their pants:

1. Trump came out of barely winning New Hampshire to growl that the party belongs to him, that Nikki Haley is opposing him, and thus any who support her past NH have no place in the party.

2. It was revealed that the GQP leadership appear to realize just how damaging the primaries are to Trump and so put forward a draft motion to just declare him the winner now and fuck the opinion of anybody not already in his camp.

3. Trump ordered the Senate GQP to kill the very conservative immigration reform bill under consideration because he wants to run on “SCARY ILLEGALS!!!”…and the immediate response from the Senate GQP leadership after days of beating the MAGAts in their caucus over the head with how good this bill is for them was “Yes, Mr. Soprano.”

The overall message is simple: If you’re a “moderate” or “independent” who planned to make-believe anybody but Trump had a chance in the primaries and then hold your nose to vote for him in November, then you’ve no place in the party anymore. If you’re not already wearing a scarlet “T” armband and marching in lockstep, then you’re no longer a member of the party in good standing and that will be reflected in how you are treated going forward.

Mtg said she wants them expelled. That’s pretty explicit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:46:54am

Some interesting news out of Japan…

A former member of a Japanese radical leftist group behind deadly bombings in the 1970s may finally have been caught after almost 50 years on the run, local media said Friday.
Now 70, Satoshi Kirishima’s youthful, bespectacled and long-haired mugshot has featured on “wanted” posters outside police stations across Japan for decades.

Police were still trying to confirm his identity, but on Thursday a man believed to be Kirishima was detained at a hospital west of Tokyo, broadcaster TBS reported.

The man, who checked into hospital under another name, is terminally ill with cancer and while receiving treatment he confessed that he was Kirishima, NHK said.

Police declined to comment when contacted by AFP.

japantimes.co.jp

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:55:42am

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:56:22am

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 3:57:43am

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Captain Magic  Jan 26, 2024 • 4:53:02am

What I’m really surprised about is the fact that with the nitrogen hypoxia they didn’t also use a anesthetic gas like xenon or halothane.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 4:59:20am

Well, when you say it like that…

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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:05:31am

And the spin is in:

After playing video clips of Republican senators acknowledging that Trump is putting pressure on them to tank the deal, Carter argued that this kind of sabotage of bipartisan negotiations is exactly what many pro-Trump voters want.

“You look at the base who say… Trump is back, he’s going to make sure we’re tougher, we’re getting better deals, the deal wasn’t good enough, it wasn’t strong enough,” she said. “What they’re trying to position this as saying is we’re trying to do a tougher deal and we’re going to say no to a deal that’s going to tie this to Ukraine.”

The bolded in particular is laugh-worthy in itself because it was the GQP who insisted that any funding for Ukraine be dependent upon “securing the border” and then kept adding to the wish list once the WH agreed to link the two.

Everything old is new again, as here comes “Successful Businessman” Trump to declare that the GQP needs to stop any and all negotiations until after the election because he’ll force the Dems to sit at the table and won’t accept anything less than a perfect deal. Those of us old enough to remember the Trump years remember quite clearly that his days as a “dealmaker” were brief before he started whining and screaming that the Dem leadership wouldn’t do as he demanded and spent the rest of administration trying to rule by decree…er, executive order.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:06:50am

re: #134 darthstar

Christ. That picture. That’s the total maleness every beta male is or should be after?

Nope. That’s just gross and disgusting.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:13:01am

…whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:13:11am

Why Steve Bannon is facing a ‘maelstrom of his own making’

In January 2024, lawyers who have represented far-right MAGA Republican Steve Bannon are fighting one another.

Former Bannon attorney Robert Costello and the firm Davidoff Hutcher and Citron sued Bannon for failing to pay him tensions of thousands of dollars he owed, and a judge ordered Bannon to pay $480,487. But now, Bannon’s current lawyer, Harlan Protass, is trying to prevent the firm from reviewing Bannon’s bank statements and finances.

The Daily Beast’s Jose Pagliery, in an article published on January 26, lays out some reasons why the “financial colonoscopy” that Davidoff Hutcher and Citron favors and Protass opposes could create even more legal problems for Bannon.

Pagliery explains, “Steve Bannon is in a maelstrom of his own making…. Bannon has asked a New York state judge to block Costello’s law firm from perusing through his bank statements and reviewing his assets, a request that has required Bannon to awkwardly concede that his personal finances likely have evidence that could bolster the Manhattan District Attorney’s case against him.”

Bannon was convicted on criminal charges because of his involvement in We Build the Wall, a MAGA project for crowdfunding a U.S./Mexico border wall. The “War Room” host, according to prosecutors, defrauded donors.

“The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York criminally charged Bannon and his business partners over the ordeal in 2020,” Pagliery notes, “but the one-time Trump White House chief strategist managed to score a pardon from his former boss. That pardon, however, didn’t stop Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg Jr. from going after Bannon for breaking state laws in 2022. That case is set for trial in May.”

The Daily Beast reporter continues, “Bannon bizarrely ghosted his own lawyers when the DA’s case got rolling in January 2023, the first signs that he was worsening his own situation. And his refusal to pay Costello seemed like a particularly stinging insult, given that Costello found himself on the wrong end of an FBI surveillance effort for working with Bannon. Meanwhile, Bannon is louder than ever — outright rejecting the American democratic system on his ‘War Room’ podcast and calling for a vengeful and violence-laden dictatorial return for Trump in the White House — even as his legal woes are mounting.”

alternet.org

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:17:30am

re: #34 Dangerman

I didn’t know tfg testified.
Sounds like it was about as long as the stormy Daniels encounter

Longer.

But it’s also clear that Trump never listens beyond the word no.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:19:33am

re: #139 lawhawk

Longer.

But it’s also clear that Trump never listens beyond the word no.

I have to admit, it was kinda cathartic to see the text of him and Habba getting smacked around by the judge and Carroll’s attorney. Trump, and by extension Habba, were clearly hoping that they could sneak something by the judge and the attorney by rambling on past the plain answer to the question being asked.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:21:01am
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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:22:28am

Molly Ringwald is on GMA this morning, for those interested.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:33:49am

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Targetpractice  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:34:04am

re: #140 Nerdy Fish

I have to admit, it was kinda cathartic to see the text of him and Habba getting smacked around by the judge and Carroll’s attorney. Trump, and by extension Habba, were clearly hoping that they could sneak something by the judge and the attorney by rambling on past the plain answer to the question being asked.

No, that was last week when she tried to actually pull an “Aha!” moment while questioning Carroll, first asking her about what she did with the death threats she received by email, and then accused her of destroying evidence and immediately moving for a mistrial.

And yes, Judge Kaplain told the Wannabe Columbo to knock that shit off and pointed out she had a year to bring this up to the court (i.e. back during discovery).

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:40:34am

re: #144 Targetpractice

No, that was last week when she tried to actually pull an “Aha!” moment while questioning Carroll, first asking her about what she did with the death threats she received by email, and then accused her of destroying evidence and immediately moving for a mistrial.

And yes, Judge Kaplain told the Wannabe Columbo to knock that shit off and pointed out she had a year to bring this up to the court (i.e. back during discovery).

Trump had more than a year. He had all the time leading up to the first trial, and failed to address any of this at that time. His counsel didn’t make any of those claims in filings because they were not legit, and could have resulted in sanction. The trial found Trump guilty - this trial is for damages only.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:46:02am

ICJ rules that Israel needs to stop targeting civilians- taking steps to prevent genocide, but not to stop all military action.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:56:01am

Oh goodie. Trump’s on his way to the federal courthouse in Manhattan for closing arguments in the damages trial for defaming E Jean Carroll.

Mind you, he doesn’t have to attend any of this, but is going to spew lies and agitprop outside the courtroom, despite the fact that a jury found him guilty of sexually assaulting Carroll and defaming her.

Closing arguments are this morning, and the jury should get the case this afternoon. It is quite possible that they could return a verdict before the end of the day (especially the way a jury took almost no time to find him liable in the trial).

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2024 • 5:58:50am

Ham & Egg Fried Rice

Good morning!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:02:37am

re: #148 jeffreyw

AH memories of Christmas dinner when I was a kid with…this…

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:06:51am

This should be interesting.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:07:20am

Iowa going the way of Texas with this.

Iowa Republicans want public schools to hire untrained Christian chaplains

and fire those Gawdless Social Workers in the name of Jay-Zuss!

Republicans in Iowa have advanced a bill to bring untrained chaplains to public schools in an effort to shove Christianity where it doesn’t belong. And if this sounds familiar, it’s because Texas already beat them to it.

In Texas, the law now allows schools to bring in local pastors who have no formal certification to work with children while dismissing the experts who are actually trained to help kids. Nothing in the bill prohibits chaplains from proselytizing to students. Nothing requires chaplains from one faith to serve students from a different religious background.

It’s such a disastrous plan that, last August, more than 100 Texas chaplains signed a letter urging school boards not to replace trained social workers with religious alternatives.

Yet for some reason, Iowa Republicans believe this is the best path forward.

The two bills—Senate Study Bill 3092 and House File 2073—would allow school boards to hire volunteer chaplains “to provide support, services, and programs for students.” Those chaplains don’t need any kind of license or endorsement. If they pass a background check, they can literally walk into school with a shirt that says “chaplain” on it and have access to kids.

The effect, of course, is that the people who are trained to provide support in these areas could see their roles in jeopardy as districts choose to replace hired professionals with volunteer nobodies.

The Christians backing this bill, Reps. Helena Hayes and Barb Kniff McCulla, fully admit they’re taking a page from Texas after attending an event with right-wing lobbyist Chuck Hurley.

friendlyatheist.com

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:16:53am

re: #131 Randall Gross

Biden should announce that any National Guard troops outside of their own state that are within 100 miles of an international border are automatically declared to be nationalized under the federal government’s command.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:21:39am

re: #138 Joe Bacon ✅

Autocorrect and poor editing give us:

… him tensions of thousands of dollars he owed, …

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:22:10am

Let’s make something explicitly clear:

Trump opposes any solution to the immigration issue now. He opposes it because it would deprive him and the GOP of a talking point for time immemorial. They don’t want a solution. They don’t want a deal. They’re seditious treasonweasel fascists who need poor minorities to fill jobs Americans wont do (or refuse to do under any circumstances, like grueling farm work or food prep), and know that undocumented persons are desperate for jobs and are cheap labor for millionaire owners of ag businesses to maximize their profits.

Biden can get a deal on immigration now. Trump is opposing it.

The GOP is therefore bound to Trump’s opposition, and the Senate realizes that this is a disaster for them.

It also shows that immigration isn’t the crisis that the GOP itself claims it to be.

They are fine with the status quo. They don’t want change. They need the talking points. They need the image of “crisis” even though there isn’t truly a crisis here. We are a nation built on immigration, but the GOP has gone full white nationalist nativist. They don’t want nonwhites coming here. They want only Christian white folks (especially males) to come here. All else aren’t welcome.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:28:57am

UNRWA admits that the allegations by Israel that staffers aided/abetted Hamas in carrying out terrorist actions were justified. They fired a bunch of staffers and launched an investigation.

“To protect the Agency’s ability to deliver humanitarian assistance, I have taken the decision to immediately terminate the contracts of these staff members and launch an investigation in order to establish the truth without delay. Any UNRWA employee who was involved in acts of terror will be held accountable, including through criminal prosecution.

“UNRWA reiterates its condemnation in the strongest possible terms of the abhorrent attacks of 7 October and calls for the immediate and unconditional release of all Israeli hostages and their safe return to their families.

“These shocking allegations come as more than 2 million people in Gaza depend on lifesaving assistance that the Agency has been providing since the war began. Anyone who betrays the fundamental values of the United Nations also betrays those whom we serve in Gaza, across the region and elsewhere around the world”.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:32:45am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Nice FAFO story.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:33:28am

re: #154 lawhawk

Let’s make something explicitly clear:

Trump opposes any solution to the immigration issue now. He opposes it because it would deprive him and the GOP of a talking point for time immemorial. They don’t want a solution. They don’t want a deal. They’re seditious treasonweasel fascists who need poor minorities to fill jobs Americans wont do (or refuse to do under any circumstances, like grueling farm work or food prep), and know that undocumented persons are desperate for jobs and are cheap labor for millionaire owners of ag businesses to maximize their profits.

Biden can get a deal on immigration now. Trump is opposing it.

The GOP is therefore bound to Trump’s opposition, and the Senate realizes that this is a disaster for them.

It also shows that immigration isn’t the crisis that the GOP itself claims it to be.

They are fine with the status quo. They don’t want change. They need the talking points. They need the image of “crisis” even though there isn’t truly a crisis here. We are a nation built on immigration, but the GOP has gone full white nationalist nativist. They don’t want nonwhites coming here. They want only Christian white folks (especially males) to come here. All else aren’t welcome.

^^^^^^^^^+ A bunch

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:36:53am

re: #154 lawhawk

Trump and the Border: Richard Nixon Back Again

We presume that most readers know that, in 1968, Richard Nixon believed that “I’m the guy who can end the Vietnam War” was his ticket to the White House. That line of attack would have been rendered moot if the war, you know, ended. So, he pulled some shenanigans behind the scenes so as to derail the peace talks that were, by all accounts, close to a successful conclusion. The American public was none the wiser, at least not when they cast their ballots, and so the former VP was sent to the White House, where he found other, more inventive ways to destroy his career.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:38:15am

re: #156 No Malarkey!

Only 2 more months, unfortunately.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:38:38am

re: #159 Dangerman

Trump’s problem here is that, in contrast to Nixon, the cat is already out of the bag. First of all, McConnell’s closed-door comments are no longer closed-door, and Democrats can use them against Trump to show that the former president isn’t really serious about the border, he’s only serious about using the border to drive up his own vote totals. And let us pause here to note that it’s at least possible that McConnell’s comments leaked out because… McConnell (or an ally) leaked them. News that makes the Minority Leader look like a good soldier, but that undermines Trump sounds just like the sort of 3-D chess that the Kentuckian sometimes plays

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:38:42am

re: #150 No Malarkey!

This should be interesting.

[Embedded content]

I am going to “live tweet” the year 1933, the year Hitler took office.

I will begin on Jan 30th, with his swearing in.

The goal of this project is so people can see how Germany went from a democracy to dictatorship in just 6 months.

Carnegie Hall is in step:

Fall of the Weimar Republic: Dancing on the Precipice
carnegiehall.org

“The centerpiece of Carnegie Hall’s 2023-2024 season is a powerful exploration of one of the most complex and consequential chapters in modern human history: Germany’s Weimar Republic of 1919-1933. Across a vast array of concerts and events that span numerous genres and art forms—and in partnership with top organizations across New York City and beyond—we investigate the forces that led to the fall of the Weimar Republic, as well as the many lessons about the fragility of democracy that can be gleaned from its extraordinary collapse. “

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:44:54am

Link

We put these items together because it is simply not conceivable that a political party can have a successful election cycle (or even an average election cycle) with so much backbiting going on. Recent history makes this clear; the Republicans blew a golden chance in 2022, in significant part because the MAGA and non-MAGA/semi-MAGA members just could not come together. Maybe they’ll work things out during the winter and spring, and will present a united front by the summer and fall, although with Trump leading the party, we very much doubt it. And if the squabbling within the ranks continues, then it’s going to be another disappointing cycle for the GOP. (Z)

Let this be the cycle the dems unify and win big

You don’t win you get nothing.
Actually worse than nothing. See Trump admin 1.0

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:49:56am

re: #154 lawhawk

Let’s make something explicitly clear:

Trump opposes any solution to the immigration issue now. He opposes it because it would deprive him and the GOP of a talking point for time immemorial. They don’t want a solution. They don’t want a deal.

There are too many industries and parties interested in maintaining a flow of immigrants to be put to work in American agriculture, food processing, food service, domestic & hospitality services, construction, maintenance, landscaping/gardening, etc…

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:50:46am

Judge Kaplan is “”this close to throwing Habba in jail for contempt.
via Klasfeld:

Judge Kaplan to Alina Habba:

“You are on the verge of spending some time in the lockup. Sit down.”

Trump’s lawyers wanted to include a slideshow of tweets, none of which were entered as evidence.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:53:10am

re: #161 Dangerman

Phrase it as “Donald Trump is actively trying to sabotage the US government in order to boost his chances of regaining the presidency…and Republicans in the House and Senate are helping him.” Because that’s what it is.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:53:14am

re: #164 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are too many industries and parties interested in maintaining a flow of immigrants to be put to work in American agriculture, food processing, food service, domestic & hospitality services, construction, maintenance, landscaping/gardening, etc…

The Jews probably thought they were indispensable to Germany in 1933. Then the Nazis dispensed with them. In a second Trump administration, the Nazis will have free reign, because there won’t be any adults in the room to restrain them. If Stephen Miller wants to round up millions of undocumented immigrants and put them in camps, no-one is going to tell him no.

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steve_davis  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:53:30am

re: #141 Shropshire Slasher

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Never tell an ambitious person that something is “too far.” That merely spurs them on. And I don’t think we want dogs to be motivated to develop rocketry just yet.

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William Lewis  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:54:37am

Interesting to note last night at the hotel that we had two prototype electric cars charging at one of our charging stations. No obvious mfg marks, Michigan manufacturers plates. The others in the party were driving Hyundai cars but that could be as much camo as the black and white color scheme.

Anyway, had to drag out the Leica 😈

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:55:10am

re: #167 No Malarkey!

The Jews probably thought they were indispensable to Germany in 1933. Then the Nazis dispensed with them. In a second Trump administration, the Nazis will have free reign, because there won’t be any adults in the room to restrain them. If Stephen Miller wants to round up millions of undocumented immigrants and put them in camps, no-one is going to tell him no.

There will still be people coming into the country to find work, the camps will mostly be for show.

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William Lewis  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:55:34am

Still foggy for the drive home though it made for a nice picture at one of the usual places on the way…

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:56:54am

re: #149 Joe Bacon ✅

AH memories of Christmas dinner when I was a kid with…this…

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My mom served the same meal to us many times. I liked the crispy noodles.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 6:58:14am

1968—Nixon uses Claire Chennault to torpedo the Paris Peace Talks and keep the Vietnam war going

1980—Pruneface Reagan’s operatives make a deal with the Ayatollah to keep the hostages until after the election

2024—Trump torpedoes immigration reform while his pals at 19th Century Fox continue to stoke fears of “illegal caravans bringing fentanyl into the US”.

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steve_davis  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:00:20am

re: #153 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Autocorrect and poor editing give us:

And also “perused through” which is just fucking illiterate. Makes me feel like I’m reading Raw Story.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:00:41am

Haley going on Fox News to call Trump “totally unhinged” is music to my ears. She’s still going to endorse him after she drops out of the race, I bet.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:01:59am

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:07:12am

Trump just walked out on the plaintiff’s closing argument because he can’t take the heat.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:08:48am

re: #176 Joe Bacon ✅

A Trumptaur.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:09:58am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Trump just walked out on the plaintiff’s closing argument because he can’t take the heat.

[Embedded content]

Coward.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:10:36am

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:12:01am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Trump just walked out on the plaintiff’s closing argument because he can’t take the heat.

[Embedded content]

He walked out so he can go out to the mob of reporters and double down on slandering E. Jean.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:12:20am

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:13:34am

re: #180 Randall Gross

As super annoying as Musk is, don’t equate the two. Musk is a symptom of business in America and the internet, but his influence is a few percent of the American public. Trump is in an entirely different league.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:13:45am

re: #181 Joe Bacon ✅

He walked out so he can go out to the mob of reporters and double down on slandering E. Jean.

A little media discipline would be good here. Nobody point a camera at him. Nobody lift a mic. Just stare.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:14:24am

re: #2 Captain Magic

Alabama successfully executes tortures a prisoner to death using Nitrogen hypoxia.

apnews.com

FTFY.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:15:28am

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:18:08am

The walkout is being staged but the Judge shuts it down. Boris The Boob tried to walk out and got butt-bongoed by Judge Kaplan.

After Trump left the courtroom in the middle of closing arguments, Kaplan told Trump’s attorney Boris Epshteyn to “remain seated.”

nbcnews.com

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:19:55am

The GOP refuses to tighten security at the border; will impeach Secretary Mayorkas for not tightening security at the border.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:22:29am

re: #188 No Malarkey!

GOTV for Joe and clean out the nest of vipers that exists in the House of Reps. The Senate can use a good cleaning too.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:23:01am

re: #187 Joe Bacon ✅

The walkout is being staged but the Judge shuts it down. Boris The Boob tried to walk out and got butt-bongoed by Judge Kaplan.

After Trump left the courtroom in the middle of closing arguments, Kaplan told Trump’s attorney Boris Epshteyn to “remain seated.”

nbcnews.com

Be great for Trump to poke his head back in and say, “Boris? Are you coming or not?” and get slapped with contempt.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:24:57am

re: #183 Belafon

As super annoying as Musk is, don’t equate the two. Musk is a symptom of business in America and the internet, but his influence is a few percent of the American public. Trump is in an entirely different league.

They are both fascists at heart. They both want to intimidate and make people fear others, they both want power. Trump got 170 million votes, Musk has 170 million followers and could run in 2028 someone else as the next face of populism in America.

Trump was a TV host with a smaller audience when he started. I could go on and on. Who is more dangerous — the demagogue who struts and frets upon the stage, or the guy pulling millions of views into that theater? I don’t equate the two, but they are both freaking dangerous and should not be ignored.

I also recall people telling me to ignore that Horowitz xenophobic hate machine as well, and now the Trump campaign’s & GOP’s whole raison d’etre is that fear of the brown peoples at the border.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:25:07am

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:25:44am

re: #191 Randall Gross

Fortunately, Musk wasn’t born in the US.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:26:42am

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:29:05am

re: #194 darthstar

Compensatory damages is likely to be within the $7-12 million range.

Punitive damages? Sky’s the limit.

I’d say that Trump Tower is sufficient punitive damages.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:33:27am

re: #193 darthstar

Fortunately, Musk wasn’t born in the US.

Calvinball court. :P

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:36:44am

re: #196 Randall Gross

Calvinball court. :P

But seriously speaking if the techbro billionaires ever got together and backed one candidate, that would be a problem.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:37:12am

re: #196 Randall Gross

Calvinball court. :P

There are plenty of real things to worry about. Why make up impossible things to fear?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:38:27am

Donald has just left the courtroom
that’s his trail of slime right there
Donald has just left the courtroom
And now he runs down the stairs

He gave away pardons once in a while;
Had sex with a porn star
Yes, he had style!
5 foot long red ties
That’s them in a pile,
But he don’t need’em now,
‘Cause he’s makin’ Putin smile!

Donald has just left the courtroom
that’s his trail of slime right there
Donald has just left the courtroom
And now he stumbles down the stairs

Republicans all love him,
He brings them relief
With puffs or methane
From his filled up Depends
Hannity and Watters
Whizz over his head —
As he strolls out
To wish E. Jean Dead

Donald has just left the courtroom
that’s his trail of slime right there
Donald has just left the courtroom
And now he stumbles down the stairs

So what if he looks like a wart-hog in heat?
Republicans love him —
They just watch him eat,
So take down the foil
From his mansion retreat,
And bring back Gawd’s King
For Red Hats in the street!

Donald has just left the courtroom
that’s his trail of slime right there
Donald has just left the courtroom
And now he stumbles down the stairs

He’s all in with Putin in his big Kremlin chair!

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:39:06am

re: #198 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

There are plenty of real things to worry about. Why make up impossible things to fear?

That being said, hearing that Musk probably lost tens of billions of dollars in Tesla stock tanking yesterday warmed the cockles of my heart!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:40:01am

re: #116 Patricia Kayden

So they’re not shooting people because President Biden would charge them with murder. It has nothing to do with it actually BEING MURDER? Republicans must be missing the texts in the Bible where Jesus talks about helping strangers. Who Would Jesus Shoot?

Anyone who wasn’t a white immigrant from the Nordic countries? We are talking about Republican Jesus here, aren’t we?

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:40:48am

re: #198 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

There are plenty of real things to worry about. Why make up impossible things to fear?

Wooosh! right over… Haven’t had my coffee - forgot Elon’s not eligible, made a joke…

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:42:08am

re: #197 Randall Gross

But seriously speaking if the techbro billionaires ever got together and backed one candidate, that would be a problem.

Not just because of their money. Techbros could use AI to make personalized interactive phone calls to everyone in America.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:43:08am

re: #203 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Not just because of their money. Techbros could use AI to make personalized interactive phone calls to everyone in America.

Right, it’s the power of their platforms that make them worrisome.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:43:54am

re: #200 No Malarkey!

That being said, hearing that Musk probably lost tens of billions of dollars in Tesla stock tanking yesterday warmed the cockles of my heart!

Yeah, he’s now only the 2nd richest man in America.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:45:26am

Fox getting behind the 2nd civil war

bsky.app

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:45:27am

re: #203 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Not just because of their money. Techbros could use AI to make personalized interactive phone calls to everyone in America.

Of which most are ignored. Like how Twitter is ignored by most Americans.

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Egregious Philbin  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:47:30am

re: #199 Joe Bacon ✅

Good Zappa re-do.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:47:33am

re: #203 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Not just because of their money. Techbros could use AI to make personalized interactive phone calls to everyone in America.

…and 75% of them wouldn’t take the call. 🤭

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Shropshire Slasher  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:47:53am

re: #206 Randall Gross

Fox getting behind the 2nd civil war

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bsky.app

President Biden can call them out in his next State of the Union speech.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:49:05am

re: #210 Shropshire Slasher

President Biden can call them out in his next State of the Union speech.

They would honestly love that, it would give them cred with the GOP base

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:49:36am

Looks like I should be glad I pulled out the par.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:54:11am

Just what is this flower trying to attract? (bat orchid)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:54:16am

re: #172 jeffreyw

My mom served the same meal to us many times. I liked the crispy noodles.

that and the fact that the gravy was not all gray and opaque.

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Unabogie  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:54:44am

The adjudicated fact that Donald Trump is a rapist is almost never mentioned by the media. And do you know who else just ignored this? Every single person running against him for the nomination. Anyone who wasn’t just running for VP ought to have started every debate asking the audience: “Donald Trump was found liable for raping a woman, by a jury. He raped someone. How can you look your kids in the eye and say you knowingly voted for a rapist? Vote for me instead.”

But they’re all cowards.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:55:29am

re: #175 No Malarkey!

Haley going on Fox News to call Trump “totally unhinged” is music to my ears. She’s still going to endorse him after she drops out of the race, I bet.

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Liz Chaney sits, watches, and waits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:57:04am

re: #177 No Malarkey!

Donald Trump has tried to normalize this conduct.

That is what the modern Right Wing is about: they want to normalize Fascism, White Supremacy, misogyny, homophobia and xenophobia to the point that they can demonize and ostracize those who call them out for it.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:58:58am

re: #215 Unabogie

NBC news is covering the ongoing trial with a lede that:

What to know about E. Jean Carroll’s defamation damages case
A jury found Donald Trump liable last year for sexually abusing Carroll in a New York department store in the 1990s and defaming her after she wrote about the incident.

The current trial focuses only on what damages Trump will have to pay for defaming Carroll. She is seeking at least $10 million in compensatory damages and an unspecified amount in punitive damages. The jury could reach a verdict as early as today.

Prosecutors and Trump’s lawyers concluded testimony yesterday after the former president briefly took the stand and called Carroll’s accusation “false.” He is expected to attend the closing arguments in the trial, which is being presided over by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 7:59:29am

re: #216 BeenHereAwhile

Liz Chaney sits, watches, and waits.

She’ll be waiting a long time. The GOP voting base will never forgive her for betraying the Orange Messiah. If she ever wants to hold elective office again, she needs to move to a purple state, become a Democrat, and moderate a lot of her stances. She earned a lot of good will with Democrats with her performance on the J6 Committee.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:00:50am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That is what the modern Right WIng is about: they want to normalize Fascism, White Supremacy, misogyny, homophobia and xenophobia to the point that they can demonize and ostracize those who call them out for it.

Those things are all American traditions. They’re just mad that the rest of us moved on after realizing that the assholes who want to abuse anyone different are the problem.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:02:57am

re: #220 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

Those things are all American traditions. They’re just mad that the rest of us moved on after realizing that the assholes who want to abuse anyone different are the problem.

Fascism and White Supremacy are not to be seen as aceepted points of view on the political spectrum: they are anathema to every thing America stands for and has fought for in the past.

That is what irks me.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:03:07am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

She’ll be waiting a long time. The GOP voting base will never forgive her for betraying the Orange Messiah. If she ever wants to hold elective office again, she needs to move to a purple state, become a Democrat, and moderate a lot of her stances. She earned a lot of good will with Democrats with her performance on the J6 Committee.

They’ll never forgive her for still being a Conservative at a time that they’ve dropped the mask revealing the face of fascism. As one of the most hardcore Conservatives in the nation, she’ll never be a Democrat.

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Dave In Austin  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:05:28am

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:06:42am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Fascism and White Supremacy are not to be seen as aceepted points of view on the political spectrum: they are anathema to every thing America stands for and has fought for in the past.

That is what irks me.

There was a time when very few white Americans opposed white supremacy. It’s one of our ugly traditions. Fascism took pretty deep root in the past as well, and we’re just lucky the Japanese were insane enough to attack Pearl Harbor, landing us firmly with the Allies.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:07:17am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

Oh no. My crystals all told me she was the one to save America.
/

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gocart mozart  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:07:21am
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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:08:30am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

If no one noticed, would anyone care? /

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calochortus  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:09:16am

re: #213 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Just what is this flower trying to attract? (bat orchid)

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Apparently all kinds of small bugs and ants. Midges are a favorite.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:09:29am

re: #224 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

There was a time when very few white Americans opposed white supremacy. It’s one of our ugly traditions. Fascism took pretty deep root in the past as well, and we’re just lucky the Japanese were insane enough to attack Pearl Harbor, landing us firmly with the Allies.

No laws against being racist. But there are laws against denying people their rights because you think their skin color makes them inferior.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:09:59am

re: #228 calochortus

Apparently all kinds of small bugs and ants. Midges are a favorite.

They are going for midge hits…

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Unabogie  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:10:47am

re: #218 lawhawk

NBC news is covering the ongoing trial with a lede that:

Even that fails to point out that Trump did it. I am trying to think of another example, but let’s go with Charles Manson. I’m willing to bet that articles about him call him a cult leader who led a murder cult. The fact that Manson always offered excuses and denials is ignored. Manson did it. Trump did it.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:10:56am

Mastodon

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:12:22am

re: #219 No Malarkey!

She’ll be waiting a long time. The GOP voting base will never forgive her for betraying the Orange Messiah. If she ever wants to hold elective office again, she needs to move to a purple state, become a Democrat, and moderate a lot of her stances. She earned a lot of good will with Democrats with her performance on the J6 Committee.

I don’t see Liz Chaney again seeking elective office.

She and the Chaney group will back some surrogate(s) who will suffer the slings and arrows of political office.

Suspect she will align (if not already) with and become a force in a political $$$ think tank.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:12:38am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

Pulled a muscle?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:12:51am

re: #222 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

They’ll never forgive her for still being a Conservative at a time that they’ve dropped the mask revealing the face of fascism. As one of the most hardcore Conservatives in the nation, she’ll never be a Democrat.

That depends on how ambitious she is because she will never hold elective office as a Republican again. I guess Biden could appoint her to one of the administration positions often given to Republicans like Secretary of State or something. A Cheney as SoS in a Democratic Administration would be quite the twist no-one could’ve predicted 20 years ago!

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:13:43am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

I’m sure it dawned on her that she wasn’t getting the attention she got four years ago and that she wasn’t going anywhere.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:14:44am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

If she endorses Dean Phillips, their combined voter base could help him finish within about 50 points of Biden in South Carolina! I wonder if he has called her yet … /

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:14:58am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

re: #226 gocart mozart

Was she ever in it?

Nope. Now she can go back to doing what she does best—Fleecing the marks.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:15:49am

re: #237 No Malarkey!

If she endorses Dean Phillips, their combined voter base could help him finish within about 50 points of Biden in South Carolina! I wonder if he has called her yet … /

He probably did call her begging for her endorsement…right after he called Susan Sarandon….

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gocart mozart  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:16:51am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:16:55am

re: #224 🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈

There was a time when very few white Americans opposed white supremacy. It’s one of our ugly traditions. Fascism took pretty deep root in the past as well, and we’re just lucky the Japanese were insane enough to attack Pearl Harbor, landing us firmly with the Allies.

One of Hitler’s big mistakes was declaring war on the U.S. If he had stayed neutral, there would’ve been pressure on FDR to focus on the Pacific War and limit aid to Britain and the Soviets.

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:18:11am

re: #235 No Malarkey!

That depends on how ambitious she is because she will never hold elective office as a Republican again. I guess Biden could appoint her to one of the administration positions often given to Republicans like Secretary of State or something. A Cheney as SoS in a Democratic Administration would be quite the twist no-one could’ve predicted 20 years ago!

Maybe Joe can appoint her as Sec’y of DHS if they impeach Mayorkas….

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:19:33am

re: #233 BeenHereAwhile

I don’t see Liz Chaney again seeking elective office.

She and the Chaney group will back some surrogate(s) who will suffer the slings and arrows of political office.

Suspect she will align (if not already) with and become a force in a political $$$ think tank.

That is a sensible career trajectory for her. She could also probably get a show on CNN or MSNBC if she decided on a media career.

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:20:57am
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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:23:38am

re: #236 darthstar

I’m sure it dawned on her that she wasn’t getting the attention she got four years ago and that she wasn’t going anywhere.

She was probably counting on there being debates to give her a chance to increase her customer base.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:23:43am

re: #243 No Malarkey!

That is a sensible career trajectory for her. She could also probably get a show on CNN or MSNBC if she decided on a media career.

I could see her serve on Biden’s cabinet next term. Turn that laser focus of hers to do something constructive and boost her for any future runs for office.

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:24:53am

re: #245 No Malarkey!

She was probably counting on there being debates to give her a chance to increase her customer base.

So she’ll be back in four years when it’s an open Democratic primary.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:25:57am

So when Trump re-entered the courtroom did his attorneys play that “Zarathustra” thing as he appeared in a Fat Elvis jumpsuit?

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:26:17am

re: #246 darthstar

I could see her serve on Biden’s cabinet next term. Turn that laser focus of hers to do something constructive and boost her for any future runs for office.

Serving in a Democratic Administration will do zero to boost future runs for office in the GOP.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:26:22am

The family of Kenneth Smith’s murder-for-hire victim:

“It’s kind of a bittersweet day. We’re not going to be jumping around, hootin’ and hollering ‘hooray’ and all that, that’s not us,” Mike Sennett said. “We’re glad this day is over.”
al.com

The hire was made by the victim’s husband, a local pastor.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:28:52am

re: #247 darthstar

So she’ll be back in four years when it’s an open Democratic primary.

Most probably. But the field is going to be so large, she will be relegated to the also rans debates.

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Belafon  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:30:50am

re: #240 gocart mozart

I want to be her netrunner.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:31:02am

This seems bad. Is this bad?

Joshua J. Friedman @joshuajfriedman.com
*
1h
Last day of the E. Jean Carroll trial!

Judge Kaplan to Alina Habba: “You are on the verge of spending some time in the lockup. Now sit down.”

(after an argument over showing tweets that hadn’t been entered into evidence)

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:31:03am

Trump’s boasts are going to maximize the damages against Trump. Carroll’s lawyer noted Trump claimed his properties like MAL were worth more than $1 billion and that his total value was worth more than $10 billion.

His lawyers objected and were overruled.

This is going to end badly for Trump. And I’m grabbing for the popcorn.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:32:23am

re: #253 Nerdy Fish

Yes. This is bad. Very bad. Stupendously bad.

And it wont be the worst thing to happen to Trump today.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:32:28am

Only par today but my current streak reached 200. My previous streak ended at 141.

Wordle 951 4/6

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:33:04am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, this wasn’t a good time. 6/6

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Wordle 951 4/6

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Guess 3 was wrong. It was only after entering it, that I realized my error — letter in place I knew it didn’t belong..

Group: 4,4,,6,6

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darthstar  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:33:26am

re: #255 lawhawk

Yes. This is bad. Very bad. Stupendously bad.

And it wont be the worst thing to happen to Trump today.

Apparently he came back in for Habba’s closing, thus reminding the jury that he stormed out previously.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:34:06am

re: #255 lawhawk

Yes. This is bad. Very bad. Stupendously bad.

And it wont be the worst thing to happen to Trump today.

I mean, having your attorney spending time in the slammer for contempt of court seems like it’s a pretty bad thing, but I think the question now is not if, but when, the jury throws the book at him.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:34:36am

re: #255 lawhawk

Yes. This is bad. Very bad. Stupendously bad.

And it wont be the worst thing to happen to Trump today.

OK I’ll bite. What else is happening to Trump today?

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:34:55am

re: #253 Nerdy Fish

@joshuajfriedman.com

Habba: Ladies and gentlemen, I have received three threats this week —
Judge Kaplan: Counsel, that was inappropriate. Jury will disregard.
Habba: They have six threats, only from 2023. Why not before? She deleted them. Or perhaps they didn’t exist. (via Inner City Press)

Many people have said they wouldn’t mind seeing her locked up for a bit.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:37:31am
Trump’s lawyer Alina Habba hand-waves the threats against E. Jean Carroll:

“Ladies and gentleman, I received three this week alone. That’s me on a good day.”

Objection

Judge Kaplan sustains that, calls the remark “inappropriate,” and instructs the jury to ignore it.

Habba keeps trying to introduce evidence not before the court, and the jury keeps getting told to disregard her comments.

This is not going to end well..

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:39:19am

re: #247 darthstar

So she’ll be back in four years when it’s an open Democratic primary.

OK, I feel better now knowing America’s great hope will be back.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:40:43am

@joshuajfriedman.com

Meanwhile, while Trump is sitting at the defense table with his hands clasped during his attorney’s closing, his Truth Social account is posting the familiar denials and attacks on E. Jean Carroll and Judge Kaplan

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:41:53am

re: #131 Randall Gross

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The governor of Florida has backed Abbott, while Florida leaks more ‘inadmissible immigrants’ through Miami International Airport than any point on the Mexican border.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:47:04am

Some people just need to believe in imaginary things. The article does close with pushback from a scientist.

Recently, the viral app TikTok made an internet sensation out of a rock created by a meteorite impact: moldavite.

Videos on the app professing the crystal’s intense powers made moldavite into a hot commodity among young audiences, and #moldavite has more than 47.3 million views on TikTok.

Linda Bonds, the owner of Stones of Spirit rock shop in Knoxville, Tennessee, wasn’t aware of the TikTok sensation but said that many people have ventured into the shop in search of the crystal.

“Right now they’re driving me crazy for moldavite. … They’re all wanting it,” Bonds said. “They don’t know really why they want it, or maybe that video that I didn’t see is the reason why.”

The rock is on the more expensive side — a small stone is about $20 and a pendant necklace is around $40 — but that hasn’t stopped customers from buying up Bonds’ stock.

The moldavite trend, however, is just one glimpse into a larger American movement toward New Age practices, such as astrology and psychic powers. According to the Pew Research Center, 42% of Americans believe that spiritual energy can be harnessed from physical objects such as crystals. Younger Americans in particular are leaving organized religion in favor of New Age practices, which often differ from Western organized religions in the sense that they are more focused on personal spirituality and often don’t involve worshipping a particular god.

“Healing” crystals offer New Age spirituality for young Americans, science questions their validity (The Daily Beacon-student paper)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:49:13am

re: #241 No Malarkey!

One of Hitler’s big mistakes was declaring war on the U.S. If he had stayed neutral, there would’ve been pressure on FDR to focus on the Pacific War and limit aid to Britain and the Soviets.

The USA was already de facto fighting the Battle of the Atlantic and had already engaged German U-boats in the Western approaches, which it had declared an exclusionary zone for foreign military vessels.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:49:15am
Joshua J. Friedman @joshuajfriedman.com
*
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Reply to Joshua J. Friedman
Habba: All he did was tell his truth.
Roberta Kaplan: Objection!
Judge Kaplan: I’ll deal with it in my instruction. (via Inner City Press)

What the hell is “his truth”? There’s ONE TRUTH. Reality is not a choose your own adventure!

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:52:23am

I know America, so I expect that the darker-shelled robots work behind the scenes and the white ones get the prominent high-paid robot jobs.

Problems of racial and gender bias in artificial intelligence algorithms and the data used to train large language models like ChatGPT have drawn the attention of researchers and generated headlines. But these problems also arise in social robots, which have physical bodies modeled on nonthreatening versions of humans or animals and are designed to interact with people.

The aim of the subfield of social robotics called socially assistive robotics is to interact with ever more diverse groups of people. Its practitioners’ noble intention is “to create machines that will best help people help themselves,” writes one of its pioneers, Maja Matarić. The robots are already being used to help people on the autism spectrum, children with special needs and stroke patients who need physical rehabilitation.

But these robots do not look like people or interact with people in ways that reflect even basic aspects of society’s diversity. As a sociologist who studies human-robot interaction, I believe that this problem is only going to get worse. Rates of diagnoses for autism in children of color are now higher than for white kids in the U.S. Many of these children could end up interacting with white robots.

So, to adapt the famous Twitter hashtag around the Oscars in 2015, why #robotssowhite?


Why are so many robots white?
(The Conversation)

White and super-creepy
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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 8:57:03am

re: #267 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The USA was already de facto fighting the Battle of the Atlantic and had already engaged German U-boats in the Western approaches, which it had declared an exclusionary zone for foreign military vessels.

Which was a big reason why Hitler went ahead and declared war on the U.S., because he felt like they were already at war. But there were still powerful voices in the US opposed to us getting into the war in Europe, and they could’ve made the case that it was Japan that attacked America, not Germany, so we should focus on the War with Japan. Could FDR had made the “Germany First” case if Hitler had not declared war on the US, had maybe even announced German neutrality in the Pacific War? We’ll never know, because Hitler made the decision for him by declaring war.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:01:52am

Protest Convoy Headed to Southern Border Is Calling Itself an ‘Army of God’

Experts say that the Christian nationalist rhetoric adds a dangerous dimension to the standoff between Texas and the Federal Government.

A trucker convoy of “patriots” is heading to the U.S. border with Mexico next week, as the standoff between Texas and the federal government intensifies.
The organizers of the “Take Our Border Back” convoy have called themselves “God’s army” and say they’re on a mission to stand up against the “globalists” who they claim are conspiring to keep U.S. borders open and destroy the country.

“This is a biblical, monumental moment that’s been put together by God,” one convoy organizer said on a recent planning call. “We are besieged on all sides by dark forces of evil,” said another. “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God. It is time for the remnant to rise.” (The remnant, from the Book of Revelation, are the ones who remain faithful to Jesus Christ in times of crisis).

Experts say that the Christian nationalist overtones in this rhetoric adds a dangerous dimension to an already fraught situation.

“When people believe that they are working on behalf of God, they might be willing to resort to relatively extreme measures,” said Ruth Braunstein, assistant professor of sociology at the University of Connecticut and author of “Prophets and Patriots: Faith in Democracy Across the Political Divide.” “And so you have a politically volatile situation that could become much more so, in part because of this rhetoric.”

The organizers current plan is for the convoy to depart Virginia Beach on Monday and snake down through the southeast, stopping over in Jacksonville, Florida before making its way to several stops along the border. The convoy will then split up for separate rallies on Feb. 3, one near Eagle Pass, Texas, a second in Yuma, Arizona, and a third in San Ysidro, California.

A group of six patriot-world influencers, including Kim Yeater, who runs a self-empowerment self-help group and an anti-voter fraud group, started organizing the convoy around a month ago. “God’s army is rising up,” she said on the planning call. “We all have been chosen for this time.”

vice.com

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dat_said  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:04:00am

Minneapolis 10-day forecast 1/26/2024

All the snow in my neighborhood has melted. The pond ice is dubious. Freezing fog in the morning. Traditionally one of the coldest weeks of the year and forecast is all highs above freezing. I’m really not liking this.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:05:48am

re: #271 Joe Bacon ✅

We have a lunatic problem. I’ve updated my username to be more specific about the problem we face.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:07:36am

I’ve had it about up to here with judges allowing Trump’s lawyers to give lip to them and straight up lying to the juries.

Habba is straight up lying about the case - the trial found Trump sexually assaulted Carroll. That’s indisputable fact - the jury found that after a trial where Trump and his team put on evidence to support their side. They jury didn’t buy into Trump’s lies.

Judge Kaplan should start slapping fines on Habba for lying. $100k per lie sounds about right.

And before anyone else gets an idea that this is somehow undermining the requirement for zealous representation - lawyer professional guidelines prohibit lying to the court. That’s stuff of disbarment.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:10:30am

re: #271 Joe Bacon ✅

A group of six patriot-world grifters says “God told us to take your money and send you on an armed goose chase”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:10:33am

re: #206 Randall Gross

Fox getting behind the 2nd civil war

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(Of course my asshole of a governor is in that group).

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:17:06am

@brooklynmarie.bsky.social

The Dipshit Brigade heading to the border in Texas is the trucker convoy is the antivaxxers is QAnoner is Pizzagaters is hardcore MAGA is white supremacist bootlickers. Same people and for the same reasons

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:18:00am

re: #271 Joe Bacon ✅

Very in synch with the white nationalist forces that opposed Kennedy (like those border immigrants he was Catholic…) & those that killed Alan Berg

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:21:00am

Mercifully, the closing arguments by Habba is done. Lunch then jury instructions/deliberations/verdict.

UPDATE:
Forgot that Carroll’s team gets a rebuttal before lunch/jury instructions.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:21:13am

re: #173 Joe Bacon ✅

1968—Nixon uses Claire Chennault to torpedo the Paris Peace Talks and keep the Vietnam war going

1980—Pruneface Reagan’s operatives make a deal with the Ayatollah to keep the hostages until after the election

2024—Trump torpedoes immigration reform while his pals at 19th Century Fox continue to stoke fears of “illegal caravans bringing fentanyl into the US”.

it’s the only way they can win

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:22:18am

re: #280 lawhawk

Mercifully, the closing arguments by Habba is done. Lunch then jury instructions/deliberations/verdict.

Oh, so they’re getting lunch before deliberations. I wonder if that means we’ll have a verdict before dinner.

/half

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:23:27am

re: #179 darthstar

Coward.

also from today’s electoral-vote.com

We note this news because it’s an illustration of something we have seen many times. Trump can talk like a dictator or strongman or fascist, but he just doesn’t have the stones to walk like one. Can you imagine Stalin changing his “election” plans because it might hurt some people’s feelings? We can’t. And we continue to believe that Trump’s fundamental lack of courage and conviction, his unwillingness to do the really unpleasant stuff, is one of the best insurance policies against a potential Trump presidency v2.0 becoming Trump dictatorship v1.0. (Z)

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:23:50am

re: #282 Nerdy Fish

We might get one before rush hour. /half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:23:58am

Abbot + wire = abbatoir

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:26:08am

re: #282 Nerdy Fish

Oh, so they’re getting lunch before deliberations. I wonder if that means we’ll have a verdict before dinner.

/half

Get in on those Ketchup futures while you can…

/

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:26:46am

re: #284 PhillyPretzel ✅

We might get one before rush hour. /half

Oh, right, New York. Yeah, that’s probably more accurate.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:28:57am

re: #223 Dave In Austin

Marianne Williamson is out of the race.

Didn’t post tweet……

she outlasted desantis

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:29:31am

re: #90 silverdolphin

Yep. Here is a description of the ordeal.

Experts told theState and the courts that using a face mask on a bearded man was a recipe for disaster, having learned the hard way the proper procedure. They were right.

When my son joined the IDF, he had a beard. He was told that he did not have to shave his beard, but it was optional in case he wanted to do it. This was a haredi unit so at first he said he wouldn’t shave. Then he realized what a hassle it was getting on a gas mask. Then he realized how gross it was doing training exercises face down in the mud. The next time I saw him (they paid for him to fly home for his sister’s wedding) he was clean shaven.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:37:13am

re: #268 Nerdy Fish

What the hell is “his truth”? There’s ONE TRUTH. Reality is not a choose your own adventure!

the jury hears a lot during the course of a trial like this
it’s a deluge
sure they remember some of it.
but like any teacher knows, maybe 5-10% is even retained short term

if they have questions or ask for testimony to be read back, none of the nonsense will be in there.

these kind of stunts are transparent

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:39:48am

re: #282 Nerdy Fish

Oh, so they’re getting lunch before deliberations. I wonder if that means we’ll have a verdict before dinner.

/half

The Verdict / Paul Newman:

the jury foreman

But, Your Honour, are we limited on the size of the award?

What l mean, sir…

Are we permitted to award an amount greater than the amount the plaintiff asked for?

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:41:51am

re: #291 Dangerman

The Verdict / Paul Newman:

the jury foreman

I had attempted some similar humor earlier, when discussing more of Habba’s fuckups, saying that the jury would send back a note to the judge:

“Is ‘all the money’ a valid amount for the award?”

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:42:09am

Maggie Haberman is so transparently kissing Trump’s orange orfice that it is painful. She thinks Trump was comparatively restrained in the court, thanks to Judge Kaplan’s stern handling of matters.

Yeah, Trump needs to be handled like a dog, where you rub their nose in the shit that they just laid on your expensive carpet? Or forced to sit in a corner like a kid who broke your favorite coffee mug?

Trump is a bully, sociopath, and dangerous to the nation, and his outbursts yet again prove his incapability to deal with real power. Or norms or morals or ethics or the law.

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danarchy  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:43:43am

re: #265 wrenchwench

The governor of Florida has backed Abbott, while Florida leaks more ‘inadmissible immigrants’ through Miami International Airport than any point on the Mexican border.

I am trying to understand how this works? Don’t you have to clear US customs on the other end before ever getting on an international flight? I didn’t think they would even let you boad a flight without a valid visa.(Or at least a passport for a country in the visa waiver program)

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:46:56am

re: #294 danarchy

I am trying to understand how this works? Don’t you have to clear US customs on the other end before ever getting on an international flight? I didn’t think they would even let you boad a flight without a valid visa.(Or at least a passport for a country in the visa waiver program)

You do not have to clear US customs to get on a US-bound flight from another country. Customs is done when you are exiting the international terminal; if you are using a US airport as a connecting destination between two international flights, you actually never have to traverse US customs at all. As for letting you board a flight, that is entirely up to the security in the country of origin; US customs checks your passport or visa status on the way in, which is where the inadmissible immigrants would get nabbed.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:49:12am

re: #277 jaunte

@brooklynmarie.bsky.social

There will probably not be another Civil War, no matter how great the nostalgia value. If there is, there will be no Gettysburg, no Vicksburg, no March to the Sea. As we are positioned and divided, the next one would be house-to-house.

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Dizzy  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:50:43am

re: #295 Nerdy Fish

You do not have to clear US customs to get on a US-bound flight from another country. Customs is done when you are exiting the international terminal; if you are using a US airport as a connecting destination between two international flights, you actually never have to traverse US customs at all. As for letting you board a flight, that is entirely up to the security in the country of origin; US customs checks your passport or visa status on the way in, which is where the inadmissible immigrants would get nabbed.

I don’t believe that is true for Canada. In Canadian airports, US border control maintains a checkpoint that travelers must pass through before boarding.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:51:48am

re: #297 Dizzy

I don’t believe that is true for Canada. In Canadian airports, US border control maintains a checkpoint that travelers must pass through before boarding.

That would make sense, and may even be true in Mexico as well, but I know for certain that this isn’t true for European flights, as well as for my flight from Dubai to New York.

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Randall Gross  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:53:26am

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:55:19am

re: #299 Randall Gross

That was peak SNL imho

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:56:49am

re: #138 Joe Bacon ✅

Man, they’re all such awful, deranged, dangerous trolls. No redeeming values whatsoever. These are the idiots Trump will surround himself with in his administration if he wins again.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 9:59:08am

re: #271 Joe Bacon ✅

From your link:

The organizers current plan is for the convoy to depart Virginia Beach on Monday and snake down through the southeast, stopping over in Jacksonville, Florida before making its way to several stops along the border. The convoy will then split up for separate rallies on Feb. 3, one near Eagle Pass, Texas, a second in Yuma, Arizona, and a third in San Ysidro, California.

They don’t have a rally scheduled in New Mexico. They have to cross it (it’s between Texas and Arizona. They’d have to go to Colorado or Old Mexico to miss it.) Perhaps Michelle Lujan Grisham scares them. Oh, wait. ‘Army of God’. Not scared, God told them New Mexico is holy.

When they go to Florida, they have no plans to go anywhere near the number one site of entry for inadmissible aliens. It’s way in the south part of the state, but when you’re headed for California, it’s a tiny side trip. When they DO get to California, they will arrive at the number 2 most common entry point for inadmissible aliens, San Ysidro.

The locations for the Arizona and California rallies haven’t been posted yet.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:00:43am

re: #150 No Malarkey!

Extremely important given what we’re facing should Orange Bigot resume his White House stunt. I’m not on Twitter so hopefully someone here can keep us updated on this thread.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:04:36am

re: #227 lawhawk

If no one noticed, would anyone care? /

They wouldn’t care if they did, so….

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:08:37am

re: #294 danarchy

I am trying to understand how this works? Don’t you have to clear US customs on the other end before ever getting on an international flight? I didn’t think they would even let you boad a flight without a valid visa.(Or at least a passport for a country in the visa waiver program)

The quotation from my link;

For instance, during the fiscal year of 2023, Office of Field Operations officials at U.S. ports of entry recorded the most inadmissible immigrants —94,852 — at Miami International Airport, Florida, followed by 78,781 at San Ysidro, California and 75,230 at Brownsville, Texas.

cites the Office of Field Operations officials at U.S. ports of entry, so they might know. I don’t.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:09:13am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:11:15am

re: #306 Captain Ron

43 former top national security officials in Israel—including ex heads of the Israel Defense Forces, Mossad intelligence agency and Shin Bet domestic security service—sent a letter to Israel’s president and parliament speaker calling for Netanyahu to be removed from power.

Does this make them all anti-Semites?

/

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:11:57am

re: #306 Captain Ron

It would have been a lot cooler to have done that before all the killings.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:12:03am

re: #306 Captain Ron

Remove Bibi and Likud.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:13:54am

re: #122 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well, this wasn’t a good time. 6/6

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:17:22am

According to the Alabama Attorney General, last night’s execution was a “textbook” success. He offered to teach other states how to do it.

“As everyone knows, they are the first team in the country to carry out nitrogen execution,” Marshall said. “And what occurred last night was textbook. They deserve a great deal of thanks and credit for being willing to be the one to step up first in the country to do so and I now suspect that many states will follow.

al.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:22:21am

re: #310 Eventual Carrion

Literally every one of you guys beat me today.

I’m such a LOSER.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:22:56am

re: #312 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Literally every one of you guys beat me today.

I’m such a LOSER.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:24:57am

re: #310 Eventual Carrion

4/6

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:25:03am

re: #281 Dangerman

it’s the only way they can win

re: #302 wrenchwench

From your link:

They don’t have a rally scheduled in New Mexico. They have to cross it (it’s between Texas and Arizona. They’d have to go to Colorado or Old Mexico to miss it.) Perhaps Michelle Lujan Grisham scares them. Oh, wait. ‘Army of God’. Not scared, God told them New Mexico is holy.

When they go to Florida, they have no plans to go anywhere near the number one site of entry for inadmissible aliens. It’s way in the south part of the state, but when you’re headed for California, it’s a tiny side trip. When they DO get to California, they will arrive at the number 2 most common entry point for inadmissible aliens, San Ysidro.

It’s a 700 mile detour from I-10 in Jacksonville - Miami - Jacksonville I-10.

And if God’s convoy attempted to protest at MIA the Miami-Dade Airport PD (airport streets are their turf) would seize and tow their trucks to impound.

MIA is too big of an economic engine for God’s convoy to eff with.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:29:05am

re: #315 BeenHereAwhile

It’s a 700 mile detour from I-10 in Jacksonville - Miami - Jacksonville I-10.

And if God’s convoy attempted to protest at MIA the Miami-Dade Airport PD (airport streets are their turf) would seize and tow their trucks to impound.

MIA is too big of an economic engine for God’s convoy to eff with.

I always thought god’s convoy would be on donkeys…I misread something. Maybe it was that bogus catechism teacher.

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jaunte  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:29:37am

re: #315 BeenHereAwhile

Those idlers are going to be bored out of their minds on that trip, unless they get to shoot someone.

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:31:59am

re: #307 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does this make them all anti-Semites?

/

No, just “self-loathing Jews”*

*possible exception when the object of their (quite justified) loathing is Jewish as well.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:32:11am

Trump: block all immigration reform from happening under Biden. Only I can make this deal happen.

Greg Sargent via Twitter: umm… about that:

A strange thing about media coverage of Trump and the border: It largely erases his term as president. He didn’t fix anything. He too released many migrants. He couldn’t get his own plan passed *with unified GOP control.* My new piece gets into this:

Emphasis added.

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:33:08am

re: #316 wrenchwench

I always thought god’s convoy would be on donkeys…I misread something. Maybe it was that bogus catechism teacher.

No, in this case, the asses are the riders, not the ridden.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:33:29am

re: #317 jaunte

Those idlers are going to be bored out of their minds on that trip, unless they get to shoot someone.

They should pass on I-10 about 30 miles from here. I still have Obama and Biden yard signs.

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Captain Ron  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:34:45am
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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:35:17am

re: #319 lawhawk

Trump: block all immigration reform from happening under Biden. Only I can make this deal happen.

Greg Sargent via Twitter: umm… about that:

Emphasis added.

Trump is impossible to please, and only cares about himself and keeping his crime spree going. Trying to please him is stupid, unpatriotic, and self-destructive.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:36:38am

re: #316 wrenchwench

I always thought god’s convoy would be on donkeys…I misread something. Maybe it was that bogus catechism teacher.

You mean they won’t be like JC entering Jerusalem riding a velociraptor? 😏

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:38:39am

re: #317 jaunte

Those idlers are going to be bored out of their minds on that trip, unless they get to shoot someone.

From Joe’s Vice link:

We’re not going to make waves…This is just to make a statement, have music, pray,” Saks added. “It’s only a call to arms if the people around us make it a call to arms.”

They’ll be ready for those on the other side of the border.

Members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel (CJNG) pose for a photo at an undisclosed location in Michoacan state Mexico. One of the men bears the insignia of the Delta hit squad that reports to cartel leader Nemesio Oseguera and that U.S. federal investigators say received a gun that came from the Racine gun store. REUTERS/Stringer
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aatharuv  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:38:48am

re: #297 Dizzy

I don’t believe that is true for Canada. In Canadian airports, US border control maintains a checkpoint that travelers must pass through before boarding.

re: #295 Nerdy Fish

You do not have to clear US customs to get on a US-bound flight from another country. Customs is done when you are exiting the international terminal; if you are using a US airport as a connecting destination between two international flights, you actually never have to traverse US customs at all. As for letting you board a flight, that is entirely up to the security in the country of origin; US customs checks your passport or visa status on the way in, which is where the inadmissible immigrants would get nabbed.

Actually….

US CBP runs what are called Immigration Pre-clearance in a number of international airports and seaports, some in Canada, but also in the main airport of Ireland (Shannon?), the Bahamas, and Abu Dhabi in the UAE.
(I’ve been through the last one.) Not every airport in Canada has them.

Basically, you get your passport (and visas if you need them) checked go through customs, by CBP agents, and then your flight lands in a domestic terminal in the US. The Benefits are that the plane can land at a domestic terminal or a domestic airport without a CBP presence.
The drawbacks are that you have no recourse if you get turned away (even with a valid visa) when not on US soil. (The US has prevented numerous foreign nationals and at least one US citizen from boarding flights to the US.)

Also, for pretty much any flight to the US, every one gets questioned in the boarding area while outside the US (or has been for at least the past 20 years) — many international airports have a closed off area for flights to the US. This happens everywhere. The people are not CBP employees from what I’ve seen.

And if you are connecting between two international flights in the US, you do have to clear immigration at least (not 100% sure about customs). Being an American, or having a valid visa or status to be in the US at least temporarily is required.

Note that Customs and immigration checks are independent of each other. Usually going through one means you have to go through both, but there are parts of the US which are in a different customs zone (like the US Virgin Islands), which means you need to go through Customs without going through passport control.

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sizzzzlerz  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:38:48am

re: #299 Randall Gross

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How ‘bout that. A parody movie about a parody TV show. How meta.

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Nerdy Fish  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:41:17am

re: #326 aatharuv

Yes. I tried to distinguish between immigration and customs where possible, but I don’t think I was all that successful.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:41:51am

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:42:50am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

According to the Alabama Attorney General, last night’s execution was a “textbook” success. He offered to teach other states how to do it.

“As everyone knows, they are the first team in the country to carry out nitrogen execution,” Marshall said. “And what occurred last night was textbook. They deserve a great deal of thanks and credit for being willing to be the one to step up first in the country to do so and I now suspect that many states will follow.

al.com

Ghouls

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:47:44am

Kari Lake’s Campaign Manager doesn’t trust Black doctors. They don’t even try to hide the racism anymore.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:49:50am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

According to the Alabama Attorney General, last night’s execution was a “textbook” success. He offered to teach other states how to do it.

“As everyone knows, they are the first team in the country to carry out nitrogen execution,” Marshall said. “And what occurred last night was textbook. They deserve a great deal of thanks and credit for being willing to be the one to step up first in the country to do so and I now suspect that many states will follow.

al.com

So they’re going with denial after torture-killing a prisoner. Should have expected that. Denial is big these days.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:51:17am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

Kari Lake’s Campaign Manager doesn’t trust Black doctors. They don’t even try to hide the racism anymore.

As white nationalists strive to hold on to control of this country despite the will of the voters, they have no way to hide it and promote their movement at the same time.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:51:37am

re: #319 lawhawk

Trump: block all immigration reform from happening under Biden. Only I can make this deal happen.

Greg Sargent via Twitter: umm… about that:

Emphasis added.

“Biden” is turning away 2-3x the number that tfgs admin did
Iirc

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:51:47am

The Carroll case against Trump has gone to the jury. I’m hoping for an 8 figure judgment, maybe even nine.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:52:18am

re: #333 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Next thing will be she does not trust Jewish doctors. /

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:53:05am

And the jury now has the defamation damages case:
Via @innercitypress on Twitter:

Judge Kaplan: We will break at 4:30 pm if there is no verdict, unless you send a note that you would like to stay somewhere later.
[No pizza like in US v. Sam Bankman-Fried final day?]
Judge Kaplan: Andy will take the exhibits. Videos on a laptop.

Judge Kaplan: Anything else we have to do before we go off and have lunch? None? OK.
[Thread will continue below as notes are brought in, and /or… a verdict?
book: amazon.com

Kaplan oversaw the SBF trial, and let the jury know that they could stay to dinner/through dinner, and they did - finding a guilty verdict in the process. This may be in line with that outcome.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:54:02am

re: #334 Dangerman

“Biden” is turning away 2-3x the number that tfgs admin did
Iirc

Obama was the ‘deporter in chief’. Biden was his VP. He learned there.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:56:49am

Turd Johnson saying any senate immigration bill is dead. And they’re going to start impeachment proceedings of Mayorkas. 😂😂😂

Fucking useless taints.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:57:19am

Core PCE came in under the Fed’s target on both the 3 month and six month range, 1.5% and 1.9% respectively. Traders are pricing a 46% chance of a rate cut in March. Bidenomics is an unqualified success, and consumers have begun to realize it.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:58:20am

re: #336 PhillyPretzel ✅

Next thing will be she does not trust Jewish doctors. /

My Grandmother was like that. She was a mess, and died of a cancer that people who drink and smoke a lot get, but she did outlive all of her children.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 10:59:38am

re: #339 GlutenFreeJesus

Turd Johnson saying any senate immigration bill is dead. And they’re going to start impeachment proceedings of Mayorkas. 😂😂😂

Fucking useless taints.

They’re going to impeach Mayorkas for not addressing immigration, all while the House GOP blocks any action on the bipartisan immigration bill under consideration.

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:00:09am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

Kari Lake’s Campaign Manager doesn’t trust Black doctors. They don’t even try to hide the racism anymore.

Is it ok for a black doctor to refuse to treat white patients? // (1/2, maybe not so much)

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:02:19am

re: #339 GlutenFreeJesus

Turd Johnson saying any senate immigration bill is dead. And they’re going to start impeachment proceedings of Mayorkas. 😂😂😂

Fucking useless taints.

*if* the Senate does come through he will have to bring it up

And it’ll likely pass

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Dangerman  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:03:51am

re: #342 lawhawk

They’re going to impeach Mayorkas for not addressing immigration, all while the House GOP blocks any action on the bipartisan immigration bill under consideration.

His opening statement will be: here’s a bill. Your bill. pass it now.
Ill wait and walk it to the prez myself.

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gocart mozart  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:07:35am
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Florida Panhandler  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:08:42am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

Kari Lake’s Campaign Manager doesn’t trust Black doctors. They don’t even try to hide the racism anymore.

We must remember that here in America, where everyone gets a fair shake and opportunities, anti-discrimination programs are no longer needed.

Give me a fucking break.

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:10:04am

re: #347 Florida Panhandler

These are the same fuckers who think that black pilots can’t be trusted to fly planes.

They’re fucking nativist white nationalist fascists. Goddamned Nazis. Their bigotry and hate is all they know how to do. They have and offer no solutions except more cruelty and harm to anyone who isn’t white and privileged.

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Vicious Babushka  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:10:32am

re: #169 William Lewis

Interesting to note last night at the hotel that we had two prototype electric cars charging at one of our charging stations. No obvious mfg marks, Michigan manufacturers plates. The others in the party were driving Hyundai cars but that could be as much camo as the black and white color scheme.

Anyway, had to drag out the Leica 😈

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Those are Ford vehicles. Edge body type. Ford likes to use zebra & optical illusion covers on their new models/upgrades.

GM uses a checkerboard pattern on their experimental vehicles.

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:10:53am

re: #331 No Malarkey!

Kari Lake’s Campaign Manager doesn’t trust Black doctors. They don’t even try to hide the racism anymore.

they pretend not to know (or maybe they really did forget) that Ben Carson and Clarence Thomas got into college and grad school through Affirmative Action. Admissions offices had to go to extra lengths to find capable talented black candidates who didn’t have the family connections, alumni recommendations, the “right” kind of extracurriculars, to make a special push for these students to apply…

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sagehen  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:13:01am

re: #336 PhillyPretzel ✅

Next thing will be she does not trust Jewish doctors. /

any racist will tell you to *only* trust Jewish doctors. And lawyers. And accountants.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:13:39am

re: #343 Dangerman

Is it ok for a black doctor to refuse to treat white patients? // (1/2, maybe not so much)

I’d be in a hurt if mine did. He has fixed my cataracts, stopped my glaucoma, and kept me off glasses at 79. (Not just Black, Jamaican. Not just Black/Jamaican, but a fucking genius.)

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lawhawk  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:14:03am

DOJ settles with the NYS Executive Branch over ex-gov Andrew Cuomo sex harassment claims.

The New York executive chamber formally settled with the U.S. Department of Justice on Friday after a federal investigation found that former Gov. Andrew Cuomo had sexually harassed 13 current and former state employees.

According to the settlement, Cuomo “repeatedly subjected these female employees to unwelcome, non-consensual sexual contact; ogling; unwelcome sexual comments; gender-based nicknames; comments on their physical appearances; and/or preferential treatment based on their physical appearances.” Federal prosecutors concluded that the executive chamber “failed to effectively remediate the harassment on a systemic level,” and that senior Cuomo staff were aware of the behavior and retaliated against some of the women involved.

As part of the settlement, the executive chamber agreed to implement several reforms - some of which Gov. Kathy Hochul had previously undertaken. Those included removing staff allegedly involved with the pattern of harassment, creating a human resources department and creating a workplace sexual harassment hotline. The agreement also listed further actions the executive chamber must take under the settlement. They include expanding the new HR department, separate training for supervisors and developing an alternative process to file complaints against senior officials.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:18:13am

re: #352 Decatur Deb

I’d be in a hurt if mine did. He has fixed my cataracts, stopped my glaucoma, and kept me off glasses at 79. (Not just Black, Jamaican. Not just Black/Jamaican, but a fucking genius.)

I have some suspicions regarding that glaucoma treatment.

The Toyes - Smoke Two Joints

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:18:18am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

The man struggled for 22 minutes. But I guess killing him was a huge success because he suffered before he died. Smh

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:19:10am

re: #351 sagehen

any racist will tell you to *only* trust Jewish doctors. And lawyers. And accountants.

The Bunker Principle.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:19:47am

re: #355 Patricia Kayden

The man struggled for 22 minutes. But I guess killing him was a huge success because he suffered before he died. Smh

We’re too much like Russia, with authorities just lying their asses off when something goes wrong, calling a failure a great success.

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Jay C  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:19:51am

re: #342 lawhawk

They’re going to impeach Mayorkas for not addressing immigration, all while the House GOP blocks any action on the bipartisan immigration bill under consideration.

So what is the “there” there (on the (quite) dubious assumption that there IS anything to the House Republicans’ animus toward Sec’y Mayorkas outside of partisan bullshit, overheated demagoguery on a largely phantom “border crisis”, and the Congressional GOP’s desperate flailing to try to deflect attention away from their own dysfunction by mindless dumping on a largely successful Biden Admin)?

IMO, the whole Mayorkas impeachment thing has the potential to become another spectacular embarrassing flameout for the GOPers: they only have a Majority of a few votes - one assumes the Democratic caucus will be in full array to vote “no” on any impeachment resolution - all it would take is a handful of Reps to refuse to sign on to this nonsense, and the KooKoo Kaucus gets another well-publicize FAIL… (not that they seem to care)

Although even if the impeachment goes through (by a one- or two-vote party-line margin) I can’t imagine the Senate convicting; though the usual Senate Asshole Caucus will likely make a lot of noise.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:21:20am

re: #354 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I have some suspicions regarding that glaucoma treatment.

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I played with that, to the point of copping some very nice bud from a friend. When I Did My Own Research, I found that it works, but only if you stay high most of your waking hours. Gave it back.

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steve_davis  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:21:25am

re: #292 Nerdy Fish

I had attempted some similar humor earlier, when discussing more of Habba’s fuckups, saying that the jury would send back a note to the judge:

“Is ‘all the money’ a valid amount for the award?”

apparently, it is considered fine to ask for punitive damages up to ten times the compensatory award. If I were the foreman, I might suggest that we make compensatory 30 million to account for the most recent liable, and then just call 300 million the reasonable punitive award.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:21:48am

re: #339 GlutenFreeJesus

So what happens when they impeach Mayorkas? Nothing. He will still be the Secretary for the Department of Homeland Security. This is strictly political theater

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:22:19am

re: #171 William Lewis

Still foggy for the drive home though it made for a nice picture at one of the usual places on the way…

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Shot I took last night at the confluence of the river. Very foggy all day yesterday.

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No Malarkey!  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:22:48am

re: #357 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

We’re too much like Russia, with authorities just lying their asses off when something goes wrong, calling a failure a great success.

For humane execution, nothing beats the guillotine. As long as the blade is nice and sharp, it is nearly instantaneous and relatively painless.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:24:29am

re: #311 Decatur Deb

According to the Alabama Attorney General, last night’s execution was a “textbook” success. He offered to teach other states how to do it.

“As everyone knows, they are the first team in the country to carry out nitrogen execution,” Marshall said. “And what occurred last night was textbook. They deserve a great deal of thanks and credit for being willing to be the one to step up first in the country to do so and I now suspect that many states will follow.

al.com

The Alabama execution squad did their own research.

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jeffreyw  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:26:46am

re: #363 No Malarkey!

For humane execution, nothing beats the guillotine. As long as the blade is nice and sharp, it is nearly instantaneous and relatively painless.

There are, however, no first person confirmations of this.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:28:14am

re: #300 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was peak SNL imho

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jan 26, 2024 • 11:28:37am

re: #363 No Malarkey!

For humane execution, nothing beats the guillotine. As long as the blade is nice and sharp, it is nearly instantaneous and relatively painless.

Nearly isn’t good enough if it gives you time to see your decapitated body from the head basket.

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wrenchwench  Jan 26, 2024 • 12:32:10pm

re: #359 Decatur Deb

I played with that, to the point of copping some very nice bud from a friend. When I Did My Own Research, I found that it works, but only if you stay high most of your waking hours. Gave it back.

Gotta work your way up. Goals are good.

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silverdolphin  Jan 26, 2024 • 1:25:02pm

re: #241 No Malarkey!

One of Hitler’s big mistakes was declaring war on the U.S. If he had stayed neutral, there would’ve been pressure on FDR to focus on the Pacific War and limit aid to Britain and the Soviets.

Great example of the stupid mistakes the losing side makes. HItler declared war on the US because he thought his subs would win the Battle of the Atlantic, prevent England from getting the supplies it needed, forcing it to surrender.But the US won the Battle of the Atlantic, which coupled with Midway, pretty much set the Axis on the path to failure.

And they make stupid mistakes because they are not organized to deal with the complexity of the world. Authoritarian cultures are only as smart as the guy at the top. Distributed cultures (ie liberal democracies) are as smart as the whole culture.


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