My friend Carlos Vega plays drums in this video. Rest in peace, Carlos. I’ll always miss you.
Music video by James Taylor performing The Frozen Man (from Squibnocket). (C) 1993 Columbia Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment
Killed the last threa with this. Sorry
TL:DR - Humans, especially males, are not made up solely of testosterone-driven processes. Cortisol levels are also present and very important. High testosterone, low cortisol individuals may be selected in some cultural environments , while high cortisol, low testosterone men are selected in others.
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There was a discussion a few stories down about bonoboes and chimps. The former has a matriarchal society while the chimps have a patriarchal. Interesting, the two species show very different hormonal responses wrt competition. Bonoboes see little change in testosterone levels but big swings in cortisol. Chimps, on the other hand, see a big shift in testosterone.
Turns out human males can do both. Human males are much more diverse wrt competition than many people think. Some respond with higher testosterone aggression, like chimps. And some respond with higher cortisol, like bonoboes. And thus we end up having a type of natural selection as women pick the men whose competitive responses are best for the cultural environment they inhabit.
Sometimes we may need more testosterone males and sometimes more cortisol males.
Humans before about 70,000 years ago, lived much like chimpanzees. In separated tribes that had some genetic transfer but little transfer of things like tool use. And high testosterone levels were predominant. This was seen in the skulls of males, which are particularly susceptible to post puberty testosterone levels.
Then 70,000 or so years ago when the things we call culture (ie burials, trade, art) appeared almost instantaneously, there was a significant drop in male testosterone levels, reducing hyperaggression and allowing trade, new tools and economies to emerge, as shown by the skulls of males.
Likely those communities where the males had lower testosterone levels were the ones that were most successful with the trading economies that arose, where hyperaggression was selected against. Competitive drives came more from non-zero sum games derived in a trading economy than anything else. Cortisol males led.
The richest were those with lower testosterone. And women chose them over the higher testosterone males.
The next huge shock came from agriculture, which required a very diffferent approach for success (ie more hierarchical). Here we see an increase in testosterone levels based on the skulls of males. Competitive drives came from a zero-sum game where if I take your land, you cannot grow anything. Women ended up with men showing more testosterone driven aggression. Testosterone males led.
And now, that we are entering a period where diversity and collaboration are the best ways to compete. Hyperaggression is not the sure way to success as it used to be. Back to many non-zero sum games. And what do we see? Drops in testosterone levels once again. Likely women are once again choosing males with higher cortisol responses because they generally are the ones doing better in an IT society.
So, human males do it both ways. The cultural environment helps select for the ones that pass on their genes, just as a natural environment does. And we are seeing that those communities overbalanced by men with large testosterone responses are failing (ie Boeing is just the latest. ) in today’s modern cultural environment that is tilting more towards IT needs, not assembly line.
Interestingly, this paper shows that high testosterone, low cortisol correlates quite well with male leadership in many businesses. Low testosterone, low cortisol males were almost always found in lower positions.
But for high cortisol individuals, the testosterone levels had nothing to do with social status. From the conclusions:
If high cortisol silences testosterone and testosterone-driven processes it may open up the door for other processes to play a more prominent role in advancement. If dominance and dominance-related factors (suchTestosterone, Cortisol, and Attained Status 16 as testosterone) become less important when cortisol is high, other dimensions, such as social competence and leadership abilities (e.g., the ability to effectively manage a team) may exert greater influence. If so, then high cortisol individuals are not necessarily destined to low (or moderate) levels of organizational status; rather their advancement may simply hinge on traits and behaviors besides testosterone and testosterone-fueled behavior.
We are more complex than just a low-high testosterone axis. And it appears likely that high cortisol individuals are finding greater success in the IT society than in an agricultural one.
Jen Psaki Drops A Truth Bomb On Trump Defenders Over ‘Bloodbath’ Remark
The full context is more than a sentence or two before the ‘bloodbath’ comment. The full context includes a lot of violent rhetoric while supporting those who are violent.
re: #2 silverdolphin
Saved that paper for further study into the directory where I keep my Human evolution — Paleoanthropology materials. It seems that psych paper is appropriate to that study as well.
Thank you!
re: #4 William Lewis
Saved that paper for further study into the directory where I keep my Human evolution — Paleoanthropology materials. It seems that psych paper is appropriate to that study as well.
Thank you!
I can also dig out the paper looking at skulls of human males to determine testosterone levels 50-70 K years ago, in modern foragers and modern agricultural societies. Testosterone el=nlarges the brow ridges and also the central area of the face.
re: #2 silverdolphin
tl;dr: “Low testosterone” is a lot like “Beta male,” i.e. it’s a term used by douchebros with zero scientific or medical training to make their balls feel bigger.
Trump Says January 6 Committee Should Be Jailed
Asked about Liz Cheney, he writes that she and all the committee needs to be in jail. Waiting for some Republican to explain the context of this ;-)
re: #6 Targetpractice
tl;dr: “Low testosterone” is a lot like “Beta male,” i.e. it’s a term used by douchebros with zero scientific or medical training to make their balls feel bigger.
Not quite sure what your point is since many scientific and medical papers use the term “low testosterone”. Especially the paper I cited shows that is is likely that low testosterone level but high cortisol males can be very high on social status and anything but a Beta male. Could you clarify?
re: #5 silverdolphin
I can also dig out the paper looking at skulls of human males to determine testosterone levels 50-70 K years ago, in modern foragers and modern agricultural societies. Testosterone el=nlarges the brow ridges and also the central area of the face.
Please!
re: #8 silverdolphin
Not quite sure what your point is since many scientific and medical papers use the term “low testosterone”. Especially the paper I cited shows that is is likely that low testosterone level but high cortical males can be very high on social status and anything but a Beta male. Could you clarify?
My point is that while “low testosterone” is a legitimate scientific term, much like “beta males” used to be, both are misused by certain subcultures across the globe to belittle men who do not fit the uber-masculline “real man” stereotype. Not just by those dickheads whose brains have been rotted by anabolic steroids, but asshats like the “manly men” in the far-right media who obsess about and even spin conspiracy theories about average testosterone levels in modern society.
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re: #11 Targetpractice
My point is that while “low testosterone” is a legitimate scientific term, much like “beta males” used to be, both are misused by certain subcultures across the globe to belittle men who do not fit the uber-masculline “real man” stereotype. Not just by those dickheads whose brains have been rotted by anabolic steroids, but asshats like the “manly men” in the far-right media who obsess about and even spin conspiracy theories about average testosterone levels in modern society.
Understood. What is amazing to me is that recent data demonstrates that those high testosterone individuals may actually be losing status in the new cultural environment driven by IT thus why they are so defensive. What is important, in reality, looks to be the combination of testosterone levels and cortisol levels. Something much more complex than the right wing bros can fathom.
And that in IT settings, the more successful approach may come from individuals with higher cortisol levels, no matter what their testosterone levels are. So, we are entering a time when humans who act like bonobos see greater success than those acting like chimps.
re: #9 William Lewis
Please!
Craniofacial Feminization, Social Tolerance, and the Origins of Behavioral Modernity Author(s): Robert L. Cieri, Steven E. Churchill, Robert G. Franciscus, Jingzhi Tan, and Brian Hare
Source: Current Anthropology, Vol. 55, No. 4 (August 2014), pp. 419-443
Published by: The University of Chicago Press on behalf of Wenner-Gren Foundation for Anthropological Research
Stable URL: jstor.org . Can be downloaded for free at ResreachGate.
Accessed: 17/07/2014 22:19
re: #9 William Lewis
Please!
This also provides good background comparing humans, chimps and bonobos:
Survival of the Friendliest: Homo sapiens Evolved via Selection for Prosociality, Annual Review of Psychology
Vol. 68:155-186 (Volume publication date January 2017)
First published online as a Review in Advance on October 12, 2016
doi.org
On January 6, 2021, the United States Capitol Building in Washington, D.C., was attacked by a mob of supporters of then-U.S. president Donald Trump, two months after his defeat in the 2020 presidential election. They sought to keep Trump in power by occupying the Capitol and preventing a joint session of Congress counting the Electoral College votes to formalize the victory of President-elect Joe Biden. The attack was ultimately unsuccessful in preventing the certification of the election results. According to the House select committee investigating the incident, the attack was the culmination of a seven-part plan by Trump to overturn the election.
Within 36 hours, five people died: one was shot by Capitol Police, another died of a drug overdose, and three died of natural causes, including a police officer. Many people were injured, including 174 police officers. Four officers who responded to the attack died by suicide within seven months. As of July 7, 2022, damages caused by attackers exceed $2.7 million.
Encouraged by Trump, on January 5 and 6 thousands of his supporters gathered in Washington, D.C., to support his false claims that the 2020 election had been “stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats” and to demand that then-Vice President Mike Pence and Congress reject Biden’s victory. Starting at noon on January 6, at a “Save America” rally on the Ellipse, Trump gave a speech in which he repeated false claims of election irregularities and said, “If you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” As Congress began the electoral vote count, thousands of attendees, some armed, walked to the Capitol, with hundreds breaching police perimeters. Among the rioters were leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers militia groups, who conspired to use violence and interfere with the peaceful transfer of power.
More than 2,000 rioters entered the building, with many vandalizing and looting, including the offices of then-House speaker Nancy Pelosi and other Congress members. Rioters also assaulted Capitol Police officers and reporters, and attempted to capture and harm lawmakers. A gallows was erected west of the Capitol, with rioters chanting to “Hang Mike Pence” after he rejected requests, from Trump and others, to use his authority to overturn the election results.
With building security breached, Capitol Police evacuated and locked down both chambers of Congress and several buildings in the Complex. Rioters occupied the empty Senate chamber while federal law enforcement officers defended the evacuated House floor. Pipe bombs were found at both the Democratic National Committee and Republican National Committee headquarters, and Molotov cocktails were discovered in a vehicle near the Capitol.
Trump resisted sending the National Guard to quell the mob. Later that afternoon, in a Twitter video, he reasserted the inaccurate claim that the election was “fraudulent”, and told his supporters to “go home in peace”. The Capitol was cleared of rioters by mid-evening, and the electoral vote count was resumed and completed by the early morning of January 7. Pence declared President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris victorious. Pressured by his cabinet, the threat of removal, and many resignations, Trump later conceded to an orderly transition of power in a televised statement.
A week after the attack, the House of Representatives impeached Trump for incitement of insurrection, making him the only U.S. president to be impeached twice. In February, after Trump had left office, the Senate voted 57-43 in favor of conviction, but fell short of the required two-thirds, resulting in his acquittal. Senate Republicans blocked a bill to create a bipartisan independent commission to investigate the attack, so the House instead approved a select investigation committee consisting of seven Democrats and two Republicans. They held nine televised public hearings on the attack in 2022, voted to subpoena Trump, and recommended that the Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecute Trump. On August 1, 2023, following a special counsel investigation, Trump was indicted on four charges.
More than 1,200 people have been charged with federal crimes relating to the attack. As of December 2023, 728 defendants had pleaded guilty, while another 166 defendants were convicted at trial; a total of 745 defendants have been sentenced. Many participants in the attack were linked to far-right extremist groups or conspiratorial movements, including the Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, and Three Percenters. Numerous plotters were convicted of seditious conspiracy, including Oath Keepers and Proud Boys members; the longest sentence to date was given to then-Proud Boy chairman Enrique Tarrio, who was sentenced to 22 years in prison.
All true. Except to the MAGA cult.
‘Flummoxed’ White House reporter says Trump’s ‘bloodbath’ warning was about more than cars
“Not to be a ‘backlash to the backlash’ guy, but I’m so flummoxed by folks insisting Trump was talking about a bloodbath *for the auto industry* if Biden is reelected,” Egger said Sunday, including a transcript of the comments Trump made. “He plainly says that car industry problems *will be the least of our worries* in the bloodbath to come!”
Correct, IMHO.
The remaining vents are still pretty strongly going, shooting lava into the air:
Whether or not it will merge into one cone or not is yet to be seen.
re: #20 teleskiguy
Is this a joke? I don’t get it.
Bishops on a chess board can only move diagonally.
re: #21 A Three Hour Tour
Bishops on a chess board can only move diagonally.
Ah! Last time I played chess was in jail.
Guess 4…SMDH!
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re: #15 silverdolphin
This also provides good background comparing humans, chimps and bonobos:
Survival of the Friendliest: Homo sapiens Evolved via Selection for Prosociality, Annual Review of Psychology
Vol. 68:155-186 (Volume publication date January 2017)
First published online as a Review in Advance on October 12, 2016
doi.org
I’m very pleased my comment a few threads down, an idea I’ve been chewing on awhile and finally posted, sparked this interesting discussion!
re: #24 No Malarkey!
I’m very pleased my comment a few threads down, an idea I’ve been chewing on awhile and finally posted, sparked this interesting discussion!
I am happy also. Humans are such incredibly complex animals and I hate it when people simplify us too much. For example, like a lot of social animals, we live not so much by nature, bloody tooth and claw, but by enhancing the ability of the entire group to survive (oh no. socialism), not just the individual. We have the most complex social structure in nature. That is likely the reason we have been so successful. It makes us highly adaptive in the face of almost any calamity. And in a functioning society, once one community knows how to adapt, all humans should know.
That is why I hold out hope we will make it through the climate crisis caused by not dealing properly with our waste products. This is the crisis point I think every intelligent species in the universe has to eventually overcome. It will not be easy but I expect we will, as we do every time, make it by the Skin of Our Teeth. I expect we will have to add a 4th act.
re: #10 jeffreyw
Jackson: Five!
re: #25 silverdolphin
I am happy also. Humans are such incredibly complex animals and I hate it when people simplify us too much. For example, like a lot of social animals, we live not so much by nature, bloody tooth and claw, but by enhancing the ability of the entire group to survive (oh no. socialism), not just the individual. We have the most complex social structure in nature. That is likely the reason we have been so successful. It makes us highly adaptive in the face of almost any calamity. And in a functioning society, once one community knows how to adapt, all humans should know.
That is why I hold out hope we will make it through the climate crisis caused by not dealing properly with our waste products. This is the crisis point I think every intelligent species in the universe has to eventually overcome. It will not be easy but I expect we will, as we do every time, make it by the Skin of Our Teeth. I expect we will have to add a 4th act.
David Brin has an interesting take on that concept in his novel “Existence”
I recommend it.
So easy to describe things in basic terms: “Me Alpha, Big Balls, Much Manly”.
re: #25 silverdolphin
I am happy also. Humans are such incredibly complex animals and I hate it when people simplify us too much. For example, like a lot of social animals, we live not so much by nature, bloody tooth and claw, but by enhancing the ability of the entire group to survive (oh no. socialism), not just the individual. We have the most complex social structure in nature. That is likely the reason we have been so successful. It makes us highly adaptive in the face of almost any calamity. And in a functioning society, once one community knows how to adapt, all humans should know.
That is why I hold out hope we will make it through the climate crisis caused by not dealing properly with our waste products. This is the crisis point I think every intelligent species in the universe has to eventually overcome. It will not be easy but I expect we will, as we do every time, make it by the Skin of Our Teeth. I expect we will have to add a 4th act.
I think humanity will survive this era, unless we hit a tipping point for runaway climate change that turns the Earth into Venus, or launch a global thermonuclear war, and I don’t expect those things to happen. Human civilizations have collapsed in the past, many times, and ours may do so as well. We certainly think about the possibility a lot, with all of the dystopian books and films we have been producing the last few decades. I don’t know if his predictions will prove accurate or not, but I’ve been seeing a lot of videos by Peter Zeihan on Youtube predicting an end to globalization because the U.S. is withdrawing its protection of the sea lanes which make global trade possible, part of the grand bargain to secure allies in the Cold War. Ironically, the nation most reliant on the freedom of the seas made possible by the U.S. Navy is China, which meets most of its energy and food needs through trade, and he is predicting China’s population will drop by half in the next decade or so due to a combination of famine and the collapse in its birth rate which began decades ago with the one child policy. He also predicts that North America will fare relatively well because the US is a net exporter of food and energy and the bulk of our trade is with Mexico and Canada and so not dependent on freedom of the seas, though we will suffer a bout of high inflation and there will be disruptions such as in advanced computer chip production, which is dependent on input from a number of countries specializing in different stages of manufacture. Zeihan may be full of shit, but his videos are interesting and provide food for thought.
re: #27 William Lewis
David Brin has an interesting take on that concept in his novel “Existence”
I recommend it.
Oh hell yes. A great book. I am a Briniac! He has had a huge impact on my life.
I have everything he has published and follow his blog (Only optimism can save us. But plenty of reasons for optimism! is the latest and it fits right in here)
We even almost connected in college. He graduated from CalTech in 1973 while I started there in 1974. He was there when women were first admitted in 1970, which impacted his world views tremendously.
Not only is he my favorite hard science fiction writer (I so want to see a show based on the Uplift War). but The Transparent Society is a must read for anyone living today. Hs writings here helped me gain a much better understanding of my own politcal views.
Thank you for bringing him up. I now need to go back and re-read Startide Rising, one of the best books written in the last 100 years. IMHO.
re: #28 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So easy to describe things in basic terms: “Me Alpha, Big Balls, Much Manly”.
The inability to deal with real complexity is a trait of authoritarian, testosterone driven men. They make things ver simple, because it makes it easier to take a quick action. And action is what they crave.
re: #31 silverdolphin
The inability to deal with real complexity is a trait of authoritarian, testosterone driven men. They make things ver simple, because it makes it easier to take a quick action. And action is what they crave.
Because quick action is what sets manly alpha men apart!!!
I have been spending some time learning to decipher this old German script. Sometimes it really pays off like this ad for “Wichsmädel Bohner Wachs”
Note that bohnern (from the word Bohne for “bean”) is German for applying (carnuba bean) wax.
And the term wichsen also literally means to “buff” but over time has come to have a different meaning involving polishing another sort of knob, if you get my drift…
So yes, “Wankmaiden boner wax”
“smells like cleanliness”
re: #29 No Malarkey!
Just like every one of us alive today can trace ourselves back to the very first free-dwelling cell on the planet, every society can also trace itself back to the first one. One of the important things current complex societies can do is destroy themselves as they remake a new society to deal with a new cultural environment.
We are seeing that today, as the societal organization that produced a successful society for the last 80 years or so collapses because it can no longer provide a selective advantage. Today’s IT-driven cultural environment moves information around much too fast for that oder structure to remain successful. Without a replacement, humanity would also collapse.
But simultaneously a new society is rising, based on a new organizational structure that can deal with rapid information flow of the IT-driven cultural environment and make wise decisions. It reduced hierarchy, enhanced democratic processes and pushed power to the edges.This makes it much more adaptive to complexity.
In many ways humanity has solved most of the problems facing any animal on the planet. Our complex social structures have allowed this Now we are left with some of the most complex problems ever - climate change and human health. I expec that in many ways these will be solved in the next 100 years,
These periods of creative destruction have happened several times in the last 250 years. They always result in turbulent periods when the declining society and the rising one have roughly equal power and come into conflict. And each time we ave seen a new polirical party system arise, just as we are seeing today.
It is easy to tell which society will eventually win - the losing side always makes what are obviously stupid decisions because its organizational structure does not allow the right information to get to the right people at the right time in order to make a wise decision. The decisions it makes are maladaptive. Easy examples are Gettysburg, opening a 2nd front by the Nazis, the offensive that produced the Battle of the Bulge, and, most recently Dobbs).
I think we are almost over this current turbulent period. Many bits of information suggest that this year will be a watershed as the old society final collapses too far to maintain any real power.
And AI is going to do two things:
render a lot of jobs no longer economically viable
and
make it impossible to tell real videos from fakes, allowing humanity to split off into their own realities governed and dictated by their own preconceived notions of what the world looks like and rejecting the rest until and unless it overwhelms them.
re: #32 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I have been spending some time learning to decipher this odd old German script.
Because quick action is what sets manly alpha men apart!!!
It defineitely sets authoritarian, hierarchical people apart. And there is a biological reason for this. Human, and most social animals, have a three-fold hierarchy - each level up increases the size by 3. They also have a proclivity to break things down into the simplest of binary questions - black or white with me or against me. This because it becomes very easy to always get an authoritative action when three groups vote on a binary question. There can never be a tie’ either 2 out of three agree or it is unanimous.
Hierarchy always drives for simplicity so it can take a quick action, even if that action is not wise. Complexity breaks it. It is only as smart as the guy at the top. ANd there are too many steps in the ladder to traverse when moving information around.
The balancing approach is a distributed, democratic one. A very flat structure that looks very much like the social web graphs we can now see. This one pushes towards consensus rather than authority. It likes a diverse group of views to make sure all vewpoints are seen and heard. It can move around huge amounts of information and when one person/group knows the answer, everyone does.
The problem is that it can be very slow to action. These groups always want more information to make even a better solution.There is even a name for it - the Seattle process, where talking is often more important than action.
So any successful society needs a balance of these two approaches. I worked at a bioetc in Seattle that praciced the Seattle process. Lots of discussions and vetting. A 60 minute meeting could veer ovet a wide range of topics for 45 of thos eminutes. Then someone would say that a decision needed to be made and Boom, Boom, Boom, it would all be laid out. It allowed us to be very efficient finding success with one third to one half as many researchers as Big Pharma.
The GOP will fail. Its structure is to take actions, even if they are stupid. The modern Dems, by using diversity and flat structures to produce wise actons, will rise to take over.
re: #34 silverdolphin
Just like every one of us alive today can trace ourselves back to the very first free-dwelling cell on the planet, every society can also trace itself back to the first one. One of the important things current complex societies can do is destroy themselves as they remake a new society to deal with a new cultural environment.
We are seeing that today, as the societal organization that produced a successful society for the last 80 years or so collapses because it can no longer provide a selective advantage. Today’s IT-driven cultural environment moves information around much too fast for that oder structure to remain successful. Without a replacement, humanity would also collapse.
But simultaneously a new society is rising, based on a new organizational structure that can deal with rapid information flow of the IT-driven cultural environment and make wise decisions. It reduced hierarchy, enhanced democratic processes and pushed power to the edges.This makes it much more adaptive to complexity.
In many ways humanity has solved most of the problems facing any animal on the planet. Our complex social structures have allowed this Now we are left with some of the most complex problems ever - climate change and human health. I expec that in many ways these will be solved in the next 100 years,
These periods of creative destruction have happened several times in the last 250 years. They always result in turbulent periods when the declining society and the rising one have roughly equal power and come into conflict. And each time we ave seen a new polirical party system arise, just as we are seeing today.
It is easy to tell which society will eventually win - the losing side always makes what are obviously stupid decisions because its organizational structure does not allow the right information to get to the right people at the right time in order to make a wise decision. The decisions it makes are maladaptive. Easy examples are Gettysburg, opening a 2nd front by the Nazis, the offensive that produced the Battle of the Bulge, and, most recently Dobbs).
I think we are almost over this current turbulent period. Many bits of information suggest that this year will be a watershed as the old society final collapses too far to maintain any real power.
This coming Winter is a key inflection point. Either the old society will seize power one more time, which will make the transition longer and more destructive than it otherwise needed to be, or Trumpism will fail again, allowing continued progress. Even if MAGA fails to secure the presidency for Trump, the transition will continue to be a bumpy road, since the old society still controls a lot of veto points in our system of government in the states, Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court.
re: #36 silverdolphin
The GOP will fail. Its structure is to take actions, even if they are stupid. The modern Dems, by using diversity and flat structures to produce wise actons, will rise to take over.
In an ideal world, the GOP will fail, but they are past masters at sowing misinformation and chaos and have shown us that they do not shrink from violence if they find it justiried in the name of what they call “God and Country”.
re: #37 No Malarkey!
This coming Winter is a key inflection point. Either the old society will seize power one more time, which will make the transition longer and more destructive than it otherwise needed to be, or Trumpism will fail again, allowing continued progress. Even if MAGA fails to secure the presidency for Trump, the transition will continue to be a bumpy road, since the old society still controls a lot of veto points in our system of government in the states, Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court.
Absolutely. Demographc changes have made 2024 the year I hope it really begins to shift. The average number of years from an economic debacle essentially caused by dislocatons from disruptive technologies until a clear winner emerges is about 17 years. So, taking the 2007 housing crash, which could only have been produced by the disruptove technology of IT, as the start, 2024 works. As does the fact that for the first time, the Boomers will not be the largest cohort, supplanted by Millennials and a fraction of Gen Z.
Thinsg can change politically really fast. The Republicans in the 1850s took over the House, Senate and President in 3 election cycles. Hope it happens in 2024.
The American dream of study hard, work hard, save money, buy a house, raise a family is becoming less and less viable for a growing number of young people.
re: #38 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
In an ideal world, the GOP will fail, but they are past masters at sowing misinformation and chaos and have shown us that they do not shrink from violence if they find it justiried in the name of what they call “God and Country”.
Very true. We are not necessarily out of the woods. However, the GOP is simply not organized to make wise decisions in the complex cultural enironment we inhabit today. This leads to them making stupid decisions. That get worse and worse.
They can still do a lot of damage. But I am hopeful we can be much more adaptive and route around the damage quickly. I think that it is possible that the GOP could be destroyed as a national party in just a few years.
Texas is, IMHO, actually close to flipping. People are moving to the suburbs of big cities in Texas in huge numbers Houston and Dallas in particular. Biden lost Texas by 600,000 people. Houston and Dallas have together added about 300,000 people a year. so 1.2 million in the 4 years form 2020 to 2024. Both cities are overwhelmingly Democratic, as are most of the high tech people moving there. Millennials prefer Dems 2-1 Gen Z hates the GOP even more. We shall see.
The GOP have chosen the wrong hills to die on: abortion bans without exception, and by etension anti-contraception and anti-IVF positions put off a lot of otherwise socially conservative voters
And outside of a handful of isolationist Amerika Fi(r)sters, most people support Ukraine and want to see us and NATO continue to materially aid their efforts.
And again, outside of extreme homophobes and genitalia-obsessed bigots, most people are fine with alternate approaches to sexuality and gender identity.
re: #40 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The American dream of study hard, work hard, save money, buy a house, raise a family is becoming less and less viable for a growing number of young people.
IN truth, that dream was mainly one created solely in the era of fossil fuel driven ICE and assembly line production. From roughly 1910 . The era of mass production. Of Levittown where all the homes looked alike.
We are now well into the era of personal production which will have different dreams. I firmly believe that WFH will transform the dreams, allowing people to own homes in cheaper aeas of the country that will have economies based on WFH rather than extractive industries.
EDIT - education will change rapidly. It is now possible for people to be trained in a new industry quite rapidly, making it easier to move around to the best place to work. The best thing a college education can now do is to train people to learn quickly.
re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
The GOP have chosen the wrong hills to die on: abortion bans without exception, and by etension anti-contraception and anti-IVF positions put off a lot of otherwise socially conservative voters
And outside of a handful of isolationist Amerika Fi(r)sters, most people support Ukraine and want to see us and NATO continue to materially aid their efforts.
And again, outside of extreme homophobes and genitalia-obsessed bigots, most people are fine with alternate approaches to sexuality and gender identity.
To solve really complex problems wisely and quickly, requires a large group of people with diverse viewpoints and backgrounds. The 5 blind men would have pretty accurately described an elephant if they had worked together in a concensus driven group.
The GOP wants to disempower women and minorities, removing diverse view and producing an epistemically closed community, a cult. A cult is totally unstable because of this lack of diversity. Remember, Nature always wins and the truth will eventually get out.
re: #42 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
And with that, Wendell,I have to go to sleep. Having a hard time focussing on the keyboard. We will talk more in a few hours, I expect.
re: #43 silverdolphin
IN truth, that dream was mainly one created solely in the era of fossil fuel driven ICE and assembly line production. From roughly 1910 . The era of mass production. Of Levittown where all the homes looked alike.
…education will change rapidly. It is now possible for people to be trained in a new industry quite rapidly, making it easier to move around to the best place to work. The best thing a college education can now do is to train people to learn quickly.
The single-home, quarter-acre suburban dream is as much a matter of urban planning and policy as it is of demand: people are increasingly attracted to denser units that are more public transport-friendly and still have the facilities for families.
And if Internet connectivity is strong enough, they need not necessarily even live where they work.
Education will be turned on its head: students will get their lessons at home from a Chat Bot and then come into school to do their homework and take tests in a controlled Internet/IT environment.
There was a 50/50 there, but I beat it this morning.
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re: #34 silverdolphin
I think we are almost over this current turbulent period. Many bits of information suggest that this year will be a watershed as the old society final collapses too far to maintain any real power.
Define “almost over”. Sometimes I think you’re a little too optimistic;
re: #48 sagehen
Define “almost over”. Sometimes I think you’re a little too optimistic;
It will take a long time before the SCOTUS recovers, unless the Dems go full nucular on it and add four more seats, it is going to be a millstone around the neck of social progress for decades
re: #49 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It will take a long time before the SCOTUS recovers, unless the Dems go full nucular on it and add four more seats, it is going to be a millstone around the neck of social progress for decades
Maybe not. If we get lucky, Biden might get to appoint two Justices to the Court in his next term and swing it back to the center.
re: #50 No Malarkey!
Maybe not. If we get lucky, Biden might get to appoint two Justices to the Court in his next term and swing it back to the center.
current ages:
Justice Thomas, 75.
Justice Alito, 73.
Justice Sotomayor, 69.
Chief Justice Roberts, 69.
Justice Kagan, 63.
Justice Kavanaugh, 58.
Justice Gorsuch, 56.
Justice Jackson, 53.
Amy Coney Barrett, 52
re: #50 No Malarkey!
If Biden should win the ‘24 election, I find it highly doubtful, barring a medical situation, that Thomas or Alito would retire until after the ‘28 presidential election hoping that a Republican would be elected.
re: #53 terraincognita
If Biden should win the ‘24 election, I find it highly doubtful, barring a medical situation, that Thomas or Alito would retire until after the ‘28 presidential election hoping that a Republican would be elected.
I will still never forgive Mitch McConnell for what he did with the SCOTUS
YOU LIBS BETTER STOP LYING ABOUT TRUMP SUPPORTING VIOLENCE OR YOU WILL NOT LIKE WHAT HAPPENS
— John Fugelsang (@JohnFugelsang) March 17, 2024
re: #53 terraincognita
If Biden should win the ‘24 election, I find it highly doubtful, barring a medical situation, that Thomas or Alito would retire until after the ‘28 presidential election hoping that a Republican would be elected.
Correct; we would have to get lucky.
re: #47 Nerdy Fish
There was a 50/50 there, but I beat it this morning.
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re: #48 sagehen
Define “almost over”. Sometimes I think you’re a little too optimistic;
There’s a difference between forever and in our lifetimes. The Inquisition lasted, what, 400 years?
re: #58 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
There’s a difference between forever and in our lifetimes. The Inquisition lasted, what, 400 years?
Still in business—changed their letterhead.
With the exception of the Papal States, the institution of the Inquisition was abolished in the early 19th century, after the Napoleonic Wars in Europe and the Spanish American wars of independence in the Americas. The institution survived as part of the Roman Curia, but in 1908 it was renamed the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office. In 1965, it became the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.[7] In 2022, this office was renamed the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.
re: #60 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
What else would you expect?
No one expects the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.
re: #61 Decatur Deb
No one expects the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.
The die is indeed cast
re: #47 Nerdy Fish
There was a 50/50 there, but I beat it this morning.
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Anyone on who has use an on line Will service?
I have 2 things I need to do this week. Prepare a Will and secure cremation services for myself.
I find myself angry about this…..
re: #66 Dave In Austin
Anyone on who has use an on line Will service?
I have 2 things I need to do this week. Prepare a Will and secure cremation services for myself.
I find myself angry about this…..
I found an online living will, basically jut pull the plug if I am on life support, sent a copy to my eldest daughter and informe the others where the other copy is located.
I don’t have enough of an estate to dispute, just to dispose of…
re: #55 Belafon
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re: #68 Dangerman
Let ‘em spin. Then repeat the question, ‘Why are you defending violent rhetoric?’
re: #61 Decatur Deb
No one expects the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Just doesn’t roll off the tongue.
Holy CENSORED
This morning Wonkette had a link to this
“Tradwives” offer an alluring vision of right-wing Christianity — online warriors are fighting back
The #FundieSnark movement battles to “deconstruct” those picture-perfect images of Christian social media
Read this to see just how f’d up, how g’d up, how hijklmnop’d up the Wacko Xtian movement is.
re: #72 Joe Bacon ✅
Just from the first paragraph I could see it is completely f’ed up.
re: #66 Dave In Austin
Anyone on who has use an on line Will service?
I have 2 things I need to do this week. Prepare a Will and secure cremation services for myself.
I find myself angry about this…..
I really need to do this also. My wife had a will, but we never setup any prepaid services. After going through that with her and what we just did with my dad (he had everything paid and planned 20 years ago), it is much easier and cheaper to preplan/prepay.
re: #66 Dave In Austin
Anyone on who has use an on line Will service?
I have 2 things I need to do this week. Prepare a Will and secure cremation services for myself.
I find myself angry about this…..
Dave when I turned 45 I did my funeral arrangements thru the Neptune Society. I’ll be cremated and my ashes will be deposited in the ocean. At that time the cost for pre-planning was $795.
Compare that to the $19K for Mom and $16K for Dad’s funerals.
The Neptune Society also had a discount with Legal Zoom to make a simple will. When I die my possessions will be willed to the local Council Thrift Shop and any cash left over will be willed to HIAS. The last thing I want is for Jesusbot relatives to get a hold of my bank accounts and give the $$$ to TV Pulpit Pimps…or the Republican Party…
Thanks all.
I’ll leave you with something you’ll never see.
petapixel.com
re: #75 Joe Bacon ✅
When I get my settlement from my case that is when I will write up my will. Most of what I have will go to WHYY/PBS because of my kid sister.
re: #72 Joe Bacon ✅
On the one hand, if your goal and dream of happiness and fulfillment in this life is to submit to your partner, and (here’s the catch) if that husband is also totally supportive and devoted to you and treats you like a million-dollar trophy wife, then go for it.
But we know the general scenario - the woman submits, the husband neglects (or abuses), she is browbeaten and simply accepts what God and her Husband heap on her without complaining and it all goes to hell in a handbasket.
We hear less from those wives than from the Mormonoid momfluencers.
re: #79 darthstar
BREAKING: King Charles has not died.
So we can start repeating this every day just like with Franco?
re: #79 darthstar
BREAKING: King Charles has not died.
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re: #79 darthstar
Nothing about HM King Charles III being dead on AP.
A COBOL programmer, tired of all the extra work and chaos caused by the impending Y2K bug, decides to have himself cryogenically frozen for a year so he can skip all of it.
He gets himself frozen, and eventually is woken up when several scientists open his cryo-pod.
“Did I sleep through Y2K? Is it the year 2000?”, he asks.
The scientists nervously look at each other. Finally, one of them says “Actually, it’s the year 9999. We hear you know COBOL.”
re: #75 Joe Bacon ✅
Dave when I turned 45 I did my funeral arrangements thru the Neptune Society. I’ll be cremated and my ashes will be deposited in the ocean. At that time the cost for pre-planning was $795.
Compare that to the $19K for Mom and $16K for Dad’s funerals.
The Neptune Society also had a discount with Legal Zoom to make a simple will. When I die my possessions will be willed to the local Council Thrift Shop and any cash left over will be willed to HIAS. The last thing I want is for Jesusbot relatives to get a hold of my bank accounts and give the $$$ to TV Pulpit Pimps…or the Republican Party…
Got my will done (and the executors have copies). Got my beneficiaries set for my retirement accounts. Now I need to set up a transfer on death deed. That should be the major things.
re: #79 darthstar
BREAKING: King Charles has not died.
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Why can’t we hear it from him? Personally?
I need to set up a will. My account beneficiaries have been set for years, but I don’t have a formal will to make life easy on Mrs. Fish.
re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
We need hourly updates…
Someone will make a website for it. Something like “ischarliedeadyet.com” or similar.
re: #89 Nerdy Fish
Someone will make a website for it. Something like “ischarliedeadyet.com” or similar.
This was from a friend today:
“I asked a friend who has crossed 70 & is heading towards 80 what sort of changes he is feeling in himself? He sent me the following:
1. After loving my parents, my siblings, my spouse, my children and my friends, I have now started loving myself.
2. I have realized that I am not “Atlas”. The world does not rest on my shoulders.
3. I have stopped bargaining with vegetable & fruit vendors. A few pennies more is not going to break me, but it might help the poor fellow save for his daughter’s school fees.
4. I leave my waitress a big tip. The extra money might bring a smile to her face. She is toiling much harder for a living than I am.
5. I stopped telling the elderly that they’ve already told that story many times. The story makes them walk down memory lane & relive their past.
6. I have learned not to correct people even when I know they are wrong. The onus of making everyone perfect is not on me. Peace is more precious than perfection.
7. I give compliments freely & generously. Compliments are a mood enhancer not only for the recipient, but also for me. And a small tip for the recipient of a compliment, never, NEVER turn it down, just say “Thank You.”
8. I have learned not to bother about a crease or a spot on my shirt. Personality speaks louder than appearances.
9. I walk away from people who don’t value me. They might not know my worth, but I do.
10. I remain cool when someone plays dirty to outrun me in the rat race. I am not a rat & neither am I in any race.
11. I am learning not to be embarrassed by my emotions. It’s my emotions that make me human.
12. I have learned that it’s better to drop the ego than to break a relationship. My ego will keep me aloof, whereas with relationships, I will never be alone.
13. I have learned to live each day as if it’s the last. After all, it might be the last.
14. I am doing what makes me happy. I am responsible for my happiness, and I owe it to myself. Happiness is a choice. You can be happy at any time, just choose to be!
I decided to share this for all my friends. Why do we have to wait to be 60 or 70 or 80, why can’t we practice this at any stage and age?”
re: #90 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
It says can’t find server.
re: #92 PhillyPretzel ✅
It says can’t find server.
It doesn’t exist yet. He was continuing the joke.
King Charles is not dead.
He’s just taking a tour of Russia’s new submarine.
Here is what the BBC has on HM King Charles III. It seems that he is alive.
bbc.com
re: #94 A Cranky One
King Charles is not dead.
He’s just taking a tour of Russia’s new submarine.
That actually got an audible guffaw out of me. Well done.
re: #23 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
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re: #82 PhillyPretzel ✅
Nothing about HM King Charles III being dead on AP.
Nope…he’s just dead on X and Russian media.
re: #92 PhillyPretzel ✅
It says can’t find server.
they have already blocked it to keep the truth from exscaping!!!
re: #99 Hecuba’s daughter
4 for me.
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re: #91 Dave In Austin
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10. I remain cool when someone plays dirty to outrun me in the rat race. I am not a rat; neither am I in any race.
I think it was Lily Tomlin who said “Even if you win the Rat Race, you are still just a rat!”
re: #95 PhillyPretzel ✅
Here is what the BBC has on HM King Charles III. It seems that he is alive.
bbc.com
Well, yeah: as of four days ago!
That’s like forever in blog-minutes!
How do we know King Chaz didn’t croak on Friday night, and the Palace has been working frantically ever since to get the Royal AI simulation* up and working ?
*yes, I realize it might be difficult to tell the difference.
I just noticed that headphones I’ve had for a year have a ruler built in, making them also suitable for phrenology. I just put them on my ears, then push the strap down, so don’t know why anyone would need this measure. Maybe that’s because I don’t have a personal headphone assistant to adjust my headphones by number and put them on my head.
re: #98 Joe Bacon ✅
I KNEW IT!
He’s really Davros!
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re: #76 Dave In Austin
Thanks all.
I’ll leave you with something you’ll never see.
petapixel.com
That’s right up there with nines09’s latest catch.
I gotta say, the heron is a bit more dramatic than the tennis ball.
re: #108 darthstar
Happy news to start a Monday.
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I wonder what business it is of the appeals court that he can’t get a bond for the judgment amount. Unless he’s crying for the amount to get reduced because he can’t secure a bond and doesn’t want to lose his properties to the State of New York while appeals (which he will CERTAINLY WIN) are ongoing.
re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
So we can start repeating this every day just like with Franco?
“Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still seriously dead.”
re: #79 darthstar
BREAKING: King Charles has not died.
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How would it be any different if he actually did die?
Stupid monarchy.
re: #110 Nerdy Fish
I wonder what business it is of the appeals court that he can’t get a bond for the judgment amount. Unless he’s crying for the amount to get reduced because he can’t secure a bond and doesn’t want to lose his properties to the State of New York while appeals (which he will CERTAINLY WIN) are ongoing.
He’s probably knocking on the door of the appeals court like Sheldon.
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re: #112 JC1
How would it be any different if he actually did die?
Stupid monarchy.
A decidedly British problem.
re: #113 darthstar
He’s probably knocking on the door of the appeals court like Sheldon.
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For a supposed billionaire (and even the most realistic estimate I’ve seen of his assets puts his net worth somewhere north of $1B), he seems to have a serious problem laying his hands on most of his money without doing something irrevocable like selling property. It’s almost like there are consequences for being a lifetime fraud and tax cheat.
Found myself commenting on an old thread, as I do, but I wanted to know if people can read Apple News links, so I am bringing it forward:
re: #91 Nojay UK
Given the pairs of glasses visible in the picture I’d guess she’s extremely long-sighted and needs a monitor positioned well back from her chair.
The article is behind a paywall. Posters who think the story is worth reading by others might consider that not everyone has a subscription to the poster’s favourite sources of news on the internet.
Can people see the Apple News link below? It isn’t on News+ which you pay for, so I am hoping you can.
re: #112 JC1
How would it be any different if he actually did die?
Stupid monarchy.
His mom seriously tried to outlive him, and nearly succeeded…
re: #116 Nerdy Fish
For a supposed billionaire (and even the most realistic estimate I’ve seen of his assets puts his net worth somewhere north of $1B), he seems to have a serious problem laying his hands on most of his money without doing something irrevocable like selling property. It’s almost like there are consequences for being a lifetime fraud and tax cheat.
The wonders of modern accounting. It is not just a boring acribic matter of counting and sorting into colums and adding and subtracting.
It is a truly cryptic and Byzantine arcana designed to create the illusion of holding large assets while concealing even larger debts.
HE’S BACK FOR AN ENCORE!
Paul Manafort, Felon Pardoned by Trump, in Line for New Trump Campaign Gig: Report
Paul Manafort, the former campaign manager who Donald Trump pardoned, is expected to be given a new role on Trump’s 2024 campaign as an adviser later this year, according to The Washington Post. Sources familiar with the matter told the Post that job discussions have mostly focused on the Republican convention in Milwaukee in July and may see Manafort being involved in fundraising for Trump’s campaign. The GOP presumptive nominee has reportedly told advisers that he feels loyal to Manafort because Manafort served time in prison and because he’s continued to say nice things about Trump both in public and private. Manafort was convicted on federal tax evasion and bank fraud charges as part of Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump then pardoned Manafort during his final days in office in 2020. The former president is now determined to bring Manafort back into the fold, sources told the Post, describing his potential hiring as expected.
re: #111 A Three Hour Tour
“Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still seriously dead.”
So is Kissinger…
re: #120 Joe Bacon ✅
And being pardoned means that he *did* do the crime. So Trump wants to re-employ criminals. But it’s all good since they crimed in his favor.
re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
THe wonders of modern accounting. It is not just a boring acribic matter of counting and sorting into colums and adding and subtracting.
It is a truly arcane and Byzantine art of creating the illusion of holding large assets while concealing even larger debts.
I looked briefly at the filing (the whole thing runs north of 4900 pages; most of that is in an affidavit and its related exhibits, not in the actual brief itself). Basically, he’s asking the court for a stay of execution on the judgment because he can’t get a bond. Not that he hasn’t been trying; the affidavit is from an insurance professional who has detailed the efforts to try to secure a bond. Basically, the problems boil down to: 1) Very few bond agencies have the capital to be able to cover a nearly half-billion judgment, and 2) none of those want to hold his properties as collateral for the bond. Chubb, his insurer for the E. Jean Carroll bond, apparently shot him down, saying that they weren’t prepared to accept the risk of holding properties in exchange for the bond. Womp, womp, motherfucker.
re: #116 Nerdy Fish
For a supposed billionaire (and even the most realistic estimate I’ve seen of his assets puts his net worth somewhere north of $1B), he seems to have a serious problem laying his hands on most of his money without doing something irrevocable like selling property. It’s almost like there are consequences for being a lifetime fraud and tax cheat.
re: #117 Charmingly Persistent
Found myself commenting on an old thread, as I do, but I wanted to know if people can read Apple News links, so I am bringing it forward:
I come from a far-off country and the proprietors of your Colonial newssheets and puffery-press erect stout barriers agin foreign intrusion and daisy-picking of the purportedly informative writings they boast. It may perhaps be not a problem for you who are locally sited to those emporia of erudition but it is for me, bucko.
A short excerpt or summary of the press reports rather than just a bare link is always welcome.
Timothy Snyder comments on the Strongman Fantasy
I lived in eastern Europe when memories of communism were fresh. I have visited regions in Ukraine where Russia imposed its occupation regime. I have spent decades reading testimonies of people who lived under Nazi or Stalinist rule. I have seen death pits, some old, some freshly dug. And I have friends who have lived under authoritarian regimes, including political prisoners and survivors of torture. Some of the people I trusted most have been assassinated.
So I think that there is an answer to this question.
Strongman rule is a fantasy. Essential to it is the idea that a strongman will be your strongman. He won’t. In a democracy, elected representatives listen to constituents. We take this for granted, and imagine that a dictator would owe us something. But the vote you cast for him affirms your irrelevance. The whole point is that the strongman owes us nothing. We get abused and we get used to it.
re: #120 Joe Bacon ✅
HE’S BACK FOR AN ENCORE!
Paul Manafort, Felon Pardoned by Trump, in Line for New Trump Campaign Gig: Report
Paul Manafort, the former campaign manager who Donald Trump pardoned, is expected to be given a new role on Trump’s 2024 campaign as an adviser later this year, according to The Washington Post. Sources familiar with the matter told the Post that job discussions have mostly focused on the Republican convention in Milwaukee in July and may see Manafort being involved in fundraising for Trump’s campaign. The GOP presumptive nominee has reportedly told advisers that he feels loyal to Manafort because Manafort served time in prison and because he’s continued to say nice things about Trump both in public and private. Manafort was convicted on federal tax evasion and bank fraud charges as part of Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Trump then pardoned Manafort during his final days in office in 2020. The former president is now determined to bring Manafort back into the fold, sources told the Post, describing his potential hiring as expected.
Manafort has the contacts with Russian Intelligence Trump needs to sell America out.
re: #104 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I think it was Lily Tomlin who said “Even if you win the Rat Race, you are still just a rat!”
My favorite Lily Tomlin bits:
“You buy a trash can, they put it in a bag for you. You take it home, take it out of the bag, and put the bag in the trash can.”
and
“I have actually seen two women sitting together in a restaurant, talking, and a man walks over and asks ‘Are you alone?’”
Whomp whomp. So sad. 😂
Trump has failed to get appeal bond for $454 mln civil fraud judgment, lawyers say
re: #55 Belafon
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“What we can’t let happen is let this primary become a negative bloodbath,” Biden told more than 100 donors gathered at a private residence in Bethesda, Maryland. “I know I’m going to get a lot of suggestions on how to respond to what I suspect will be an increasingly negative campaign that the Bernie brothers will run. But we can’t tear this party apart and re-elect Trump,” Politico reported late Friday.
re: #123 Nerdy Fish
All this practice of overinflating the value of his properties is coming back to bite his butt while he tries to borrow money on them…
With all that said, I would imagine the appeals court grants him a stay. Courts tend to be risk averse, and while I’m sure there’s a universe where they could say, “Your appeal is unlikely to succeed on the merits, Ms. James now owns your ass,” the safe play is to stay the judgment while the appeals play out. The State of New York would have to hold any seized assets in escrow anyway; no lawyer would risk being disbarred for allowing property awarded in judgment to be disbursed before the appeals had run their course.
re: #127 Joe Bacon ✅
Strongman rule is a fantasy. Essential to it is the idea that a strongman will be your strongman. He won’t.
When all power emanates from the top down, the practical effect is that there is no means of appeal for those who are subjected to arbitrary abuses of justice from the mid-level management.
You are at the an entire battery of mini-tyrants each defending their own turf and interests.
Those Ruby Slippers gonna get you in a mess of trouble!
Man Threatened Woman With Sex Tape Over ‘Wizard of Oz’ Slippers
A 76-year-old man has become the second to face charges over the theft of a pair of ruby red slippers worn by Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz, according to an indictment released Sunday and obtained by the Associated Press. Jerry Hal Saliterman of Crystal, Minnesota, was charged with theft of a major artwork and witness tampering, accused of knowing the slippers were stolen and even threatening a woman with a sex tape if she spoke out about the stolen items, adding he allegedly told her that would “take her down with him.” It is unclear how he is connected to the slipper thief, 76-year-old Terry Jon Martin. Martin pleaded guilty in October last year to theft of a major artwork and was sentenced to time served due to ill health. According to the Associated Press, Saliterman, who was in a wheelchair and on supplemental oxygen at his court appearance on Friday at U.S. District Court in St. Paul, did not enter a plea. The indictment claims Saliterman “received, concealed, and disposed of an object of cultural heritage” between August 2005 to July 2018. The slippers were stolen from the Judy Garland Museum in Minnesota and remained missing until 2018. After his court appearance Saliterman’s attorney told the Associated Press his client was not guilty. “He hasn’t done anything wrong, ” John Brink said. Saliterman declined to comment and was released on his own recognizance.
re: #133 Nerdy Fish
With all that said, I would imagine the appeals court grants him a stay. Courts tend to be risk averse, and while I’m sure there’s a universe where they could say, “Your appeal is unlikely to succeed on the merits, Ms. James now owns your ass,” the safe play is to stay the judgment while the appeals play out. The State of New York would have to hold any seized assets in escrow anyway; no lawyer would risk being disbarred for allowing property awarded in judgment to be disbursed before the appeals had run their course.
IANAL. Doesn’t NY law state that if you can’t post the bond, you can’t appeal?
They won’t stop.
Comer Fudd and Half-Dressed Jimmy are vowing to ‘lock Biden up’ — have fun with that, morons
you have to wonder if Hog Romancin’ Jimmy Comer spreads rakes around his bed at night, so he can wake up in the morning and get right to work humiliating himself.
who the fuck knows what shouty half-dressed degenerate wrestling coach Jimmy Jordan does to prepare himself for the humiliations to come. maybe he dresses like the Gimp from Pulp Fiction.
Please Jeff…spare us!!!! 😵💫
re: #137 JC1
IANAL. Doesn’t NY law state that if you can’t post the bond, you can’t appeal?
I am also not a lawyer, but from what I’ve read from New York lawyers, he can appeal, but the judgment is allowed to proceed while the appeal takes place - that is, unless the appeals court grants an injunction staying the judgment, which is what he asked for here.
From the AP: The EPA bans asbestos.
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re: #131 Hecuba’s daughter
People have brought up Biden’s use of the word “bloodbath” back in 2020. Guardian headline back then: Biden warns against primary bloodbath as Sanders sharpens attacks ahead of key contests
Biden’s actual words, per the Guardian:
Context matters, and the context with Trump is that he’s trying to overthrow our form of government.
Madness. One rule for Trump, one rule for everyone else.
Our Supreme Court, ladies and gents. https://t.co/6fDujn2W1C— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) March 18, 2024
re: #143 DodgerFan1988
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Trump was never charged/prosecuted for 1/6. So not exactly the same.
Also, this was with regards to holding state office not federal.
re: #133 Nerdy Fish
With all that said, I would imagine the appeals court grants him a stay. Courts tend to be risk averse, and while I’m sure there’s a universe where they could say, “Your appeal is unlikely to succeed on the merits, Ms. James now owns your ass,” the safe play is to stay the judgment while the appeals play out. The State of New York would have to hold any seized assets in escrow anyway; no lawyer would risk being disbarred for allowing property awarded in judgment to be disbursed before the appeals had run their course.
Would NY State seizing assets also mean they get all the paperwork showing real valuation of those assets and also the liens indicating how much Trump has borrowed against them? And how secret is that information once the state has it since I expect Trump is certainly interested in hiding how leveraged his ass is to other entities?
re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
When all power emanates from the top down, the practical effect is that there is no means of appeal for those who are subjected to arbitrary abuses of justice from the mid-level management.
You are at the an entire battery of mini-tyrants each defending their own turf and interests.
Though those little fiefdoms and general ability to suffer arbitrarily from them is not limited to just authoritarian systems.
re: #68 Dangerman
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Trying to spin bloodbath into flowers, puppies, and chocolate bunnies should be interesting.
re: #147 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Though those little fiefdoms and general ability to suffer arbitrarily from them is not limited to just authoritarian systems.
yes, but in other systems there are avenues of appeal.
re: #142 Nerdy Fish
At least until Sam Alito bans the EPA.
After all, the authors of The Constitution were all in on lung cancer and mesothelioma.
re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
yes, but in other systems there are avenues of appeal.
Supposedly. (But better chance than an fully authoritarian system I will grant.)
re: #140 PhillyPretzel ✅
From the AP: The EPA bans asbestos.
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I used to be a paralegal at a firm that defended one of the major asbestos manufacturers.
By the time the Sumner Simpson documents were found and authenticated, all the 1930’s members of the Asbestos Manufacturers Council were long dead — that’s why the asbestos litigation is an enormous sprawling civil case that’s been going for more than 50 years, the trust fund paying settlements is tens of billions of dollars, and the combined legal fees are more than the GDP of a developing nation.
Had those documents surfaced while any of the Council were still alive, it would have been the most enormous mass murder trial in American history.
re: #88 Eventual Carrion
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re: #105 Jay C
Well, yeah: as of four days ago!
That’s like forever in blog-minutes!
How do we know King Chaz didn’t croak on Friday night, and the Palace has been working frantically ever since to get the Royal AI simulation* up and working ?*yes, I realize it might be difficult to tell the difference.
Quite the conundrum. Sort of a Schrödinger’s King thingy.
re: #152 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Supposedly. (But better chance than an fully authoritarian system I will grant.)
authoritarian systmes are institutional: since all power comes from the top, all responsibility must flow there and they don’t want to make the entire system look bad when just say one police officer or one basketball coach or one youth pastor has a brief moral failling and gives into his base desires…
re: #155 sizzzzlerz
Quite the conundrum. Sort of a Schrödinger’s King thingy.
At this point he is presumed dead unless he can give some current live proof of viability
re: #151 sizzzzlerz
After all, the authors of The Constitution were all in on lung cancer and mesothelioma.
An originalist interpretation leads me to conclude that those words don’t exist.
re: #158 Belafon
An originalist interpretation leads me to conclude that those words don’t exist.
how about rickets and whooping cough?
re: #120 Joe Bacon ✅
HE’S BACK FOR AN ENCORE!
Paul Manafort, Felon Pardoned by Trump, in Line for New Trump Campaign Gig: Report
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If tRump wins the White House will look more like a prison release halfway house than a presidential manor.
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”This editorial is solely my own opinion.I alone am responsible for the content”
A personal story about Donald Trump, Marla Maples. The “Carpet King” Bob Shaw, Adolph Hitler and my wife Martha.
My wife is a computer… pic.twitter.com/5nZSMNKhMx— Marty Taylor (@RealMartyT7) March 17, 2024
re: #66 Dave In Austin
Anyone on who has use an on line Will service?
I have 2 things I need to do this week. Prepare a Will and secure cremation services for myself.
I find myself angry about this…..
I prepared a will using some standard boilerplate language, and then had a teller at the bank, and the bank’s notary public, make it all official. I’m just giving everything to siblings and hoping to be turned into compost for a tree, so nothing too complicated.
New toy day:
The toy in question is the adapter that is allowing that 1937 Zeiss collapsible lens, a 50/2 Sonnar, origially for Zeiss Contax II range finders but tweaked to work correctly on Nikon rangefinders, to work on my Leica M 240 Digital Rangefinder.
I have a bunch of other beautiful old Nikon RF glass that this will also let me use on this camera too. Lots of lovely fun to be had.
Breaking!
London: In an extraordinary emergency session, Parliament has approved the re-institution of the death penalty for the newly defined crime of seditious bullshittery. Beefeaters and SAS snatch squads have fanned out all over the country arresting bloggers, influencers, Xitterati and other shit-posters for falsely claiming the death of HM King Charles III. Suspects will be held in London Stadium pending trial. Executions will be held at the Tower and skilled axe-persons are invited to audition. BBC governors are mulling over the pay-per-view rights.
re: #164 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines
According to Yahoo HM King Charles III is officially a “hot” topic.
BREAKING: based on this vid just aired on @BBCNews I have some King of England questions #Obama pic.twitter.com/X0w0pZvULr
— Keith Olbermann⌚️ (@KeithOlbermann) March 18, 2024
re: #116 Nerdy Fish
For a supposed billionaire (and even the most realistic estimate I’ve seen of his assets puts his net worth somewhere north of $1B), he seems to have a serious problem laying his hands on most of his money without doing something irrevocable like selling property. It’s almost like there are consequences for being a lifetime fraud and tax cheat.
he’s in real estate. he’s leveraged out the wazoo. and rising interest rates are probably killing him when he has to roll over loans.
re: #167 steve_davis
he’s in real estate. he’s leveraged out the wazoo. and rising interest rates are probably killing him when he has to roll over loans.
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re: #160 Eventual Carrion
If tRump wins the White House will look more like a prison
release halfway housethan a presidential manor.
re: #167 steve_davis
he’s in real estate. he’s leveraged out the wazoo. and rising interest rates are probably killing him when he has to roll over loans.
Which is why he panicked like a deer in the headlights when he saw Covid coming down the pike in 2020: he feared his revenue streams drying up and being unable to service his rather hefty loans to banks in China and Saudia Arabia.
Wat do think was behind his half-trillion-dollar financial sector bailout package with only minimal oversight? Plenty of wiggle room there to put that money through some shell companies and get it to him in time to cover those loans.
re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Which is why he panicked like a deer in the headlights when he saw Covid coming down the pike in 2020: he feared his revenue streams drying up and being unable to service his rather hefty loans to banks in China and Saudia Arabia.
Wat do think was behind his half-trillion-dollar financial sector bailout package with only minimal oversight? Plenty of wiggle room there to put that money through some shell companies and get it to him in time to cover those loans.
I don’t think there has been enough investigation of the PPP loan scandal. They rammed through a program to disburse money for struggling small businesses and nearly all of it got hoovered up by cronies, and Trump insisted on not allowing oversight into who got what. I have very little doubt that a ton of it made it directly to his shell companies.
re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Which is why he panicked like a deer in the headlights when he saw Covid coming down the pike in 2020: he feared his revenue streams drying up and being unable to service his rather hefty loans to banks in China and Saudia Arabia.
Wat do think was behind his half-trillion-dollar financial sector bailout package with only minimal oversight? Plenty of wiggle room there to put that money through some shell companies and get it to him in time to cover those loans.
Republicans are used to spinning up imaginary crises to brag about solving. A real crisis like covid is a major problem to people who base their politics on solving problems they entirely invented.
“Hitler was not nearly as transphobic as we are.” is a very strange flex.
— Ed Mix (@EdMix13) March 18, 2024
re: #161 gocart mozart
Should have copied all that. It’s illuminating.
My wife is a computer engineer. She sets up and runs large computer servers for companies and the government. She has worked all over the country from Connecticut where she set up servers used to support our nuclear submarine fleet. To Dallas where she worked for Ross Perot at EDS and many other large corporations. In 1996. Martha was working at Shaw Industries Group in Dalton, Georgia. Shaw is the largest carpet manufacturer in the world. Dalton, Georgia is dominated by the carpet and flooring industry. The CEO was Bob Shaw. His family built the carpet business and he was very influential in Georgia Republican politics.
In 1996, Donald Trump has been married to Dalton native Marla Maples since 1993. Since Marla had family in Dalton, she and Trump visited often. They were seen around town many times. But on this particular visit, Trump was meeting with Bob Shaw for dinner. Shaw invited some of his employees to the dinner at the popular Dalton restaurant “The Depot”. My wife Martha was one of those employees invited to have dinner with Shaw, Marla Maples and Donald Trump. It was a dinner she will never forget.
Although my wife and I have only been married for a few years. We have known each other since we were in High School in Tennessee. We were always great friends. And always kept in touch. Martha shared the details of this story to me many time before Trump was President or even being mentioned as a candidate. I have heard the story for almost 30 years and the story never changes. What happened that night at the Depot is a real eye opener and tells us a lot about who and what Donald Trump is and always has been.
As the Trump’s ate dinner that night in Dalton , Georgia with ‘The Carpet King’ Bob Shaw and his semi interested employees who were bored by the bragging and buffoonish action towards the staff by Donald Trump. It was obvious that even Bob Shaw was not interested in Trump’s incessant bragging about one building or another. So Trump decided to change the conversation to his political ideas and where his political theory came from. The dinner was about to take a dark turn that no one in attendance would ever forget.
The first words that got the groups attention was when Trump said” Hitler did some great things and had some great ideas. He just didn’t get to finish what he started.” The table grew quiet as Shaw and his startled employees threw furtive glance at each other, all were hoping that maybe Trump was drunk or kidding. But his glass only held Diet Coke and the look on Donald Trump’s face was deadly serious. He was not kidding. This is what Trump believed then and believes now.
As Trump continued to regale the now silent table with his admiration of Adolph Hitler and how he thinks America needs to be more like Nazi Germany, his wife Marla tried to mitigate the words that were coming out of her husbands mouth. ” Oh Donald, you don’t believe all that. Stop it.” Marla turned to Bob Shaw and said “Donald keeps that book by Hitler beside our bed, it’s the only thing he ever reads. And he watches tapes of Hitler’s speeches. But I don’t think he believes all of that stuff.”. “Yes I do Marla” Trump said as he waved his hands to dismiss his wife. “And America would be a lot better if we had someone like HItler in charge”
As the evening went on Trump continued with his lavish praise for Adolph Hitler and the Nazi’s. When anyone tried to disagree or question him they were shut down by the loud and obnoxious Donald Trump. When the Shaw employees finally left the Depot that night. They were shocked and disgusted by Trump’s words. My wife’s co worker Marianne was especially upset as she was Jewish and my wife also has Jewish heritage. But the conversation ended in the parking lot at the Depot that night with Martha and Marianne ensuring each other that “at least Donald Trump will never be President.” Boy were they wrong.
I have heard this story for years. My wife Martha and other Shaw employees have all verified the facts and conversation at the Depot in Dalton that night. Just yesterday Donald Trump said that immigrants are”not human” this followed Trump claiming that immigrants are “poisoning the blood of our country” and calling immigrants “vermin”. These statements are taken from Hitlers Mein Kampf and his own words. There can be no doubt that Donald is emulating the words and deeds from that dark time in world history. We must never allow this in America. Donald Trump decided a long time ago that America should be more like Nazi Germany. His goal is in sight. The only thing standing in Donald Trumps way is you and I. We will never let the dark vision of Donald Trump and Adolph Hitler become reality in the United States. We will stand against Donald Trump and all who support him. We will not bend nor break. America’s future depends on it.
still here, busy weekend.
mrsdm is in NJ visiting her mom
i got the shunt and battery monitor installed this weekend
this is what the panel looks like now
i’m working on a write-up with pix of the evolution from the beginning
freed an iguana that got caught in a rain gutter and couldnt get out
when we built the raised beds against the deck, we blocked where the rain water was running off. now it pools by the house. NG
there’s a step down so im building a sort of rain gutter that should catch most of the runoff (when it pours here, it’s *a lot*).
that will feed into the pipe we ran out to the rain garden. pix to come.
the hydroponic trough is finished and water tested. drilled and installed the bulkhead for the return line.
started on a very small VAWT diy windmill project last year.
if we can generate any electricity ever, it’ll be a fun thing to boast about. maybe we get an amp, sometimes.
it didnt go well and actually broke in half during a strong wind.
with the help of a clever nephew and youtube came up with a much better design. stronger, easier to build, etc.
yeah i could buy one but where’s the fun in that?
so i started building the frame for the center axle for that.
no pix yet.
re: #178 Dangerman
Poor Freed! I’m glad you got him out! 😉
re: #170 jeffreyw
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when Deborah posts a page over on the right here at LGF we can duke it out…
my take:
counting the cooling time is only releveant if you need the eggs !right now! otherwise put the eggs in a bowl and refrigerate till you need them. then steaming takes 12 minutes (or 13 if you prefer).
how you peel your eggs is not part of the cooking process.
you could try the bake and shake method of peeling no matter how you cooked your eggs
this boil/ simmer uses way too much water
i cant believe you cant get that result with less water.
a little experimentation, please.
that’s why i went to the fasta pasta microwaver when i first saw it and never looked back.
no one eating my pasta (or eggs) can tell how the food was cooked
grrr
re: #173 Unabogie
I don’t think there has been enough investigation of the PPP loan scandal. They rammed through a program to disburse money for struggling small businesses and nearly all of it got hoovered up by cronies, and Trump insisted on not allowing oversight into who got what. I have very little doubt that a ton of it made it directly to his shell companies.
re: #181 Dangerman
I don’t think there has been enough investigation of the PPP loan scandal. They rammed through a program to disburse money for struggling small businesses and nearly all of it got hoovered up by cronies, and Trump insisted on not allowing oversight into who got what. I have very little doubt that a ton of it made it directly to his shell companies.
The US Treasury as your personal f’in piggy bank.
re: #133 Nerdy Fish
With all that said, I would imagine the appeals court grants him a stay. Courts tend to be risk averse, and while I’m sure there’s a universe where they could say, “Your appeal is unlikely to succeed on the merits, Ms. James now owns your ass,” the safe play is to stay the judgment while the appeals play out. The State of New York would have to hold any seized assets in escrow anyway; no lawyer would risk being disbarred for allowing property awarded in judgment to be disbursed before the appeals had run their course.
That shouldn’t be in the Court’s calculus. The only party that would need to worry about a successful appeal is the State. They’re the ones that would need to disgorge funds.
re: #182 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
The US Treasury as your personal f’in piggy bank.
“But the pension fund was just sitting there!”
re: #160 Eventual Carrion
If tRump wins the White House will look more like a prison release halfway house than a presidential manor.
It’ll be Animal House on Steroids…
re: #182 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
The US Treasury as your personal f’in piggy bank.
when you’re the president, (with an R congress) they let you do it
re: #181 Dangerman
Oversight is always weak during a crisis, and idiot criminals take advantage of that, but they often wind up in deep trouble when the crisis passes, and the payments are reviewed for fraud.
re: #161 gocart mozart
re: #176 Yeah Sure WhatEVs
Should have copied all that. It’s illuminating.
Do we have corroborating evidence of that story? Why did no one follow up on it in 2016 when he apparently first reported it? There have certainly been many other stories of Trump’s fondness for Hitler, but nothing like this.
re: #178 Dangerman
Glad that little fella was freed from the rain gutter!
re: #188 Hecuba’s daughter
Do we have corroborating evidence of that story? Why did no one follow up on it in 2016 when he apparently first reported it? There have certainly been many other stories of Trump’s fondness for Hitler, but nothing like this.
No idea.
re: #180 Dangerman
when Deborah posts a page over on the right here at LGF we can duke it out…
my take:
counting the cooling time is only releveant if you need the eggs !right now! otherwise put the eggs in a bowl and refrigerate till you need them. then steaming takes 12 minutes (or 13 if you prefer).
how you peel your eggs is not part of the cooking process.
you could try the bake and shake method of peeling no matter how you cooked your eggsthis boil/ simmer uses way too much water
i cant believe you cant get that result with less water.
a little experimentation, please.that’s why i went to the fasta pasta microwaver when i first saw it and never looked back.
no one eating my pasta (or eggs) can tell how the food was cookedgrrr
About the only thing I took away was the easier peeling when you dump cold eggs into boiling water. I have been using the start cold, bring to boil, then cover and turn off the heat. Peeling is then hit and miss. I’m with you on the amount of water, I think enough to cover is plenty.
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