PBS Eons: The Hazy Evolution of Cannabis

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How did such a strange plant like cannabis come to be in the first place? When and where did we first domesticate it? And why oh why does it get us high?

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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:05:39am
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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:12:53am

An end to the “art” discussion

“ONLY ORIGINALISM IS VALID!!!!” - Conservative SCOTUS

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:14:21am

Regarding the last thread:

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:17:23am

Two out of three Americans of adult age are clueless or dishonest according to this poll.
apnews.com

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:17:50am

re: #3 goddamnedfrank

Regarding the last thread:

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Maybe it was misplaced ego-driven faith the whole time.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:18:41am

re: #4 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Two out of three Americans of adult age are clueless or dishonest according to this poll.
apnews.com

Good news to be able to seat a jury then. Because these folks have no clue or inkling as to the facts or law behind the prosecution case in chief against Trump.

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Rightwingconspirator  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:27:12am

I was gonna post on this topic. But I forgot what I was thinking. ///

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:27:47am

re: #262 wrenchwench

I have seen a reference to Don Snorealone as being the MOST anti-woke ever. What I haven’t seen is anyone reaching back for that out-of-favor My Pillow guy. Don looks in need of a pillow, now more than ever.

Trump’s latest speeches have become indistinguishable from Mike Lindell’s.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:32:42am
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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:33:42am

Trump is going to be required to attend the contempt hearing on the 24th. He is not an optional attendee. The court order makes it explicit that if he fails to attend, he can and will be arrested and jailed for contempt.

documentcloud.org

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:36:08am

re: #10 wrenchwench

OSU research: Compounds in Cannabis sativa shown to prevent coronavirus infection

That’s not Ohio.

What if all stoner folklore is true, but the man doesn’t want us to know?

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:36:48am

Re: DJT stock

Of course, we should never forget Keynes famous remark: The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. After all, the stock has no legitimate value — it’s only if you believe that some nefarious actor will purchase it — and that is definitely a real possibility.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:42:36am

Via Xt - Erica Orden:

Merchan just admonished Trump, telling Blanche: “Your client was audibly uttering something…I won’t tolerate that. I will not have any jurors intimated in this courtroom. I want to make that crystal clear.”

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:45:11am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:46:28am

re: #15 lawhawk

And the Senate said that they would dismiss the case when it came to them.

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:46:47am

The House, having sabotaged the border enforcement bill that was negotiated in a bipartisan fashion and had both Senate GOP and WH support, is trying to impeach and remove DHS Mayorkas for failing to deal with the border.

Fuck the GOP. They can’t govern. They can barely handle an impeachment without going off the rails. They’ve failed to state a case, and have no facts or evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:47:45am

re: #14 lawhawk

Trump is not going to be able to control himself.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:50:00am

re: #18 jaunte

Trump is not going to be able to control himself.

And that’s why sleeping may be the best course for him — or can the judge demand that the lawyers keep him awake?

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:53:02am

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s why sleeping may be the best course for him — or can the judge demand that the lawyers keep him awake?

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 16, 2024 • 11:57:43am

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

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Vicious Babushka  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:00:17pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

And that’s why sleeping may be the best course for him — or can the judge demand that the lawyers keep him awake?

I’m thinking of that guy who was tied up and gagged all during his trial. Bobby Seale. The “Chicago 7” in 1968. Bunch of guys on trial for disrupting the Democratic Convention.

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Vicious Babushka  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:01:35pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

Probably a plant was hit by lightning or forest fire and cave man keep smelling, feel good.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:04:37pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

I suspect the first people to get high on cannabis probably ate it; this was right around the start of the agricultural revolution.

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Unabogie  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:04:39pm

History of cannabis:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
TL;DR

People used it for ropes and stuff, and heating the ropes made them realize the resin was nice.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:05:43pm

re: #25 Unabogie

They enjoyed that feeling of lasso tude.

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Jay C  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:05:51pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

Archeologists think it may have been a Scythian from the West Eurasian Steppe some time around 1500 BCE: ISTR they dug up a bronze bowl in (?Ukraine? Bulgaria?) and found that the crud still clinging to it was cannabis resin: it’s thought they burned the weed under the bowl, then picked it up and huffed the smoke.
But for whatever reason, they never got around to inventing the bong….

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:06:00pm

re: #13 Hecuba’s daughter

Re: DJT stock

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Of course, we should never forget Keynes famous remark: The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. After all, the stock has no legitimate value — it’s only if you believe that some nefarious actor will purchase it — and that is definitely a real possibility.

The big question is what,if any, effect the stock’s namesake’s sleeping through a criminal trial has on the price.

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:07:07pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:07:14pm
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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:08:19pm

re: #24 Charles

I suspect the first people to get high on cannabis probably ate it; this was right around the start of the agricultural revolution.

I think there was a fire and people near the fire felt the effects and got happy. Eating cannabis only works when it is decarbolized, cooked to a certain temp, that releases the happy parts of the plant.
But what do I know.
I suspect Kush was the Indica strain that met man and made friends.

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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:10:16pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

same guy who cooked the first lobster

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:11:09pm

re: #355 Decatur Deb

Getting arrested and put in jail is the point of civil disobedience. MLKs Letter from a Birmingham Snack Bar wouldn’t work. On the other hand, if the purpose of the demonstration is to gather support from the Well-Meaning Middle, then you don’t direct its impact against the Well-Meaning Middle.

Reactionaries have spent twenty years shifting the window on protest, inventing a bloodless whig mythos in which protest only succeeds when it’s civil—ignore that riots actually work, including the LA ones that actually made LAPD straighten up—and that any disruption is An Illegitimate Protest.

Until 9/11 after which all protest became terrorism-adjacent and the slightest disruption of civic status quo is an attack. There is no Well-Meaning Middle because time and effort has been put into making “the Middle” believe that their comfort is earned and the suffering of everyone else is deserved, and thus anything that disrupts their comfort can be met with disproportionate force. Protests are either pathetic and ineffectual or dangerous and misguided. The enemy is both weak and impossibly strong.

Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King developed modern protest as a kind of ideological judo: the civilized oppressor must be made to see the violence necessary to maintain their status quo, and when they flinch the victory is achieved. This creates an irony in which we teach children the importance of protest in school while pointing to these figure, and then respond with contempt when they do it, and if they continue to assert themselves we switch from contempt to fear.

Segregationists could be shamed; whatever label we want to throw over the status quo we have now have figured out the formula to circumvent shame. It’s a cocktail of equal parts moral panic and identity politics, where if you just can smear the right label on the other party they’re reduced as people. Human suffering is just entertainment, whether that’s reality TV shows or social media bloodsports. The violence inherent to the system is on full display, made a spectacle and an ad for itself.

Whatever brain worm makes people think politeness is a moral trait is now endemic, and it coincidentally leaves the door open for fascists and dictators that can use the right catchphrases. The country’s slowly being eaten by the polite fascists because they’re on-side versus the impolite…ignore that they have the same policy goals as impolite fascists, minus some euphemisms. We’ve built a system where saying “fuck the police” is viewed as impolitic and counterproductive while a standing policy of executing black and mentally ill people can only be talked about in ways that make cops and cop-lovers feel comfortable and safe. If you’re arguing like a battered woman telling her children they can’t complain about being hit by their dad because things will get worse you’re not helping, you’re enabling.

Reactionary society has responded to an era of protest by training its citizens not to flinch and honing the media into an instrument of moral panic such that any criticism becomes attack and all attack is part of the same meme-blob of dangerous unpersons. It’s done this well enough that libs still evoke “Guantanomo” like it’s not a scarlet letter on American notions of human rights, and people watch footage of war like it’s a game show.

I’m opposed to protests because they don’t work on people who’ve been taught everything they have is earned, including the right to just shovel some people in the Moloch every once in awhile.

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:13:26pm

From dkos

Trump gets scolded for talking aloud during Blanche’s complaint.

“I will not have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom. I want to make that crystal clear.”

Trump spoke in the direction of the juror who was not released from duty.

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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:14:50pm

re: #34 darthstar

We should try that when we are in court.
We’d be face down with a boot on our neck in a heartbeat.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:15:36pm

I feel like I need a shower after watching this.

Battleship Texas, Getting The Most Out Of Filthy Fuel!

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Randall Gross  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:16:10pm

In today’s mixed entertainment news:
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Renewed for Season 4; ‘Lower Decks’ to Conclude With Season 5
variety.com

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:17:01pm
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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:17:07pm

re: #27 Jay C

Archeologists think it may have been a Scythian from the West Eurasian Steppe some time around 1500 BCE: ISTR they dug up a bronze bowl in (?Ukraine? Bulgaria?) and found that the crud still clinging to it was cannabis resin: it’s thought they burned the weed under the bowl, then picked it up and huffed the smoke.
But for whatever reason, they never got to invent the bong….

no one hit the bronze bowl with a mallet?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:18:08pm

re: #26 jaunte

They enjoyed that feeling of lasso tude.

GIDDYAP!!!!!

YEE HAW!!!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:28:12pm

And this idiot shoots his mouth off again

Rep. Clay Higgins Wants EPA Chief Imprisoned For Regulating Pollution While Black

wonkette.com

Rep. Clay Higgins (R-Louisiana), the nastiest thing to come out of Louisiana since the state’s petrochemical industry, took a brave stand in defense of his fellow toxic emissions last week, with a tweet calling for EPA Administrator Michael Regan to “be arrested the next time he sets foot in Louisiana,” because the EPA last week rolled out tough new limits on cancer-causing pollutants spewed by chemical plants across the country. It’s a big fuckin’ environmental deal, it really is.

Now I wonder why that fine outstanding KKKristian would say such a thing…Maybe this screenshot can give me a clue…

Hmmm..gee I wonder what it is about that screenshot that sets Clay off to a fart orgy????

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:29:39pm
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prairiefire  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:29:48pm

Huge thunderhead cloud tithe NE with 2 discs underneath. Things will probably be spicy tonight!

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:31:01pm

Solid! Connections

Connections
Puzzle #310
🟪🟪🟨🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟦🟨🟦
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟨🟨🟨🟨

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lawhawk  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:34:04pm

re: #41 Joe Bacon ✅

Louisiana, which has a cancer cluster so vast, it’s called Cancer Alley, thanks to the petrochemical industry that has spent decades polluting the air, ground, and water - mostly in communities of color and poor folks who can’t afford to move anywhere else.

Of course local officials want to stop the EPA from holding those companies accountable and want to loosen restrictions.

You can always find more people to do those jobs and live in those areas. To them, people are replaceable. They fear that once you chase businesses out of the area with more regulation and accountability for the damage they’ve inflicted, they aint never coming back. That’s the fear, even though the regulations would make it safer for people to live in the state and downwind/downstream.

Mind you, all these are the not so hidden costs of the oil industry and petrochemicals.

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:36:13pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

kilgore trout @kilgoretrout.bsky.social

if they find one of him yelling “will you be my lawyer” at the lawnmower kid I’m gonna lose it

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:37:26pm

re: #45 lawhawk

Louisiana, which has a cancer cluster so vast, it’s called Cancer Alley, thanks to the petrochemical industry that has spent decades polluting the air, ground, and water - mostly in communities of color and poor folks who can’t afford to move anywhere else.

Of course local officials want to stop the EPA from holding those companies accountable and want to loosen restrictions.

You can always find more people to do those jobs and live in those areas. To them, people are replaceable. They fear that once you chase businesses out of the area with more regulation and accountability for the damage they’ve inflicted, they aint never coming back. That’s the fear, even though the regulations would make it safer for people to live in the state and downwind/downstream.

Mind you, all these are the not so hidden costs of the oil industry and petrochemicals.

Capitalism, standing next to a giant knob labelled “Death,” slowing turning it from “just passively cause people to die to make more money” to “actively kill people to make more money” while looking for signs somebody’s going to stop them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:37:29pm

re: #44 Eventual Carrion

Solid! Connections

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Perfect! for me

Connections
Puzzle #310
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟪🟪🟪🟪’

There was one that almost led me astray because (as usual) a word had 2 meanings and the second one didn’t dawn on me till late..

3 words to go in Bee — and I’m surrendering!!!

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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:39:33pm

One thing I do know is over the years growers have mixed so many strains together to create hybrids, they lost some original strains.
BITD it was Primo or Commercial and all manner of others from Michoacan and Panama and Columbia and red and gold and magic from Africa and Nam.
Ganja and black gold and Lumbo Buds that laid you low.
The medical I buy leaves me wanting that black hash taste and hit that I remember, and the Lebanon Red hash that slayed.
Grind enough flower and you get Kif, and that almost tastes like…no…
I have not found it yet.
WTF thought flavored vapes were a good idea?
Chemical and harsh and fuck I need to get to Colorado and mail myself some happiness.

Oh, and who remembers Park Lane filtered cigarettes from Nam? Tax stamp and everything, with Nam Gold inside.
Got a carton back in the day.
Tore my head off.
I vape and heat concentrate and still I haven’t found a familiar friend.
The closest was Red Headed Stranger, and that had the stemmy taste of a commercial grade, with a better finish.
Close. No Garcia Y Vega.
Comprede bon ami?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:39:50pm

re: #46 jaunte

kilgore trout @kilgoretrout.bsky.social

if they find one of him yelling “will you be my lawyer” at the lawnmower kid I’m gonna lose it

THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT!

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gwangung  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:40:39pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

There’s A LOT of similar posts going up.

They all are point out the orange one’s humiliation IN PUBLIC over them.

I am SO here for that.

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sagehen  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:42:11pm

re: #21 sizzzzlerz

What I’d like to know is who was that first person to come across a cannabis plant and say to themselves, “Hey. I wonder what would happen if I smoked that”.

Whoever it was, I’m a fan.

My guess: the fire-tender thought that looked like good kindling, tossed it on, it had a pleasing smell and the people sitting around began to feel, hey now what’s that, let’s put handprints on the walls, that dinner is delicious, tell me that story again I seem to have lost track….

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Randall Gross  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:42:24pm

“Reachmen say that fires only get dangerous when they’re bored; That’s why we tell them stories and let them lick our food”
— Bastian Hallix

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:43:37pm

Luddites: You’re firing all the skilled loom workers and replacing them with orphaned children who get maimed by the steam looms.

Capitalists: YOU’RE IMPEDING PROGRESS WHAT ARE YOU CAVEMEN

Guatemalan elected officials: We’d like to reclaim your unsused banana plantation so our people can grow food

Capitalists: SMEDLEY BUTLER SAVE US FROM THIS VIOLENCE

Modern mild critics of environmental pollution: Could you kindly not ejaculate cancer fluids into our air, water, and soil while literally rolling naked in your piles of money.

Capitalists: TYRANNY I WILL NOTIFY THE GOVERNOR OF YOUR TRANSGRESSION

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gwangung  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:44:39pm

re: #51 gwangung

bsky.app
there is an overwhelming probability that this is the first time Trump is actually seeing many or most of these memes

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:46:43pm

Sorry, it’s an Andreas Malm kind of day.

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JC1  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:47:34pm

So 6 jurors have been sworn in so far. Not bad.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:53:39pm

re: #57 JC1

So 6 jurors have been sworn in so far. Not bad.

Trump’s lawyers filing for a mistrial claiming that since only 6 jurors are in the box the State only has…half a case…

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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 12:58:10pm

The Constitution: That Delicate Balance
Campaign Spending

there were some heavy hitters
they were concerned
it’s gotten so much worse since this was recorded in 1984

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:01:44pm

Yesterday’s shirt was old enough to vote. Today’s shirt could run for the House. I can think of one that could run for president, but my mission is to find one that’s too young for president, but could run for the Senate. They each have at least one bicycle on them.

Note: I am not in favor of giving the right to vote to articles of clothing. I do want people who don’t have constitutional rights (minors) to be able to vote.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:06:14pm

re: #60 wrenchwench

Note: I am not in favor of giving the right to vote to articles of clothing. I do want people who don’t have constitutional rights (minors) to be able to vote.

They would have voted for Mr Rogers.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:07:44pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

They would have voted for Mr Rogers.

Me too, had he been on a ballot. I’d have put Captain Kangaroo in the military, too.

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Vicious Babushka  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:08:10pm

How would you like to sit on a train and have Vogon poetry screamed in your ears during the entire ride?

Mastodon

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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:11:22pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

Me too, had he been on a ballot. I’d have put Captain Kangaroo in the military, too.

He could report to Colonel Sanders.

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:15:04pm

re: #16 PhillyPretzel ✅

And the Senate said that they would dismiss the case when it came to them.

Part of me kinda wishes they would hold a trial. Never interrupt your opponents when they are making a mistake. Make them present whatever “evidence” they have. Make Republicans in the Senate vote to convict. Then beat them over the head with it on the campaign trial.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:15:48pm

The Office of the Provost sent an email Monday to the student body announcing that the valedictorian will not be speaking at this year’s graduation.

Andrew T. Guzman, the provost and senior vice president for academic affairs, said the decision was based on maintaining “campus security and safety” in the email. The valedictorian, Asna Tabassum, said in a public statement later Monday she feels the university has “abandoned” her.

“This decision is not only necessary to maintain the safety of our campus and students, but is consistent with the fundamental legal obligation - including the expectations of federal regulators - that universities act to protect students and keep our campus community safe,” said Guzman in the message to the USC community.

The decision was made after days of complaints from students, alumni and others who viewed the valedictorian’s social media activity as antisemitic.

“Anti-Muslim and anti-Palestinian voices have subjected me to a campaign of racist hatred because of my uncompromising belief in human rights for all… I was hoping to use my commencement speech to inspire my classmates with a message of hope. By canceling my speech, USC is only caving to fear and rewarding hatred,” Tabassum said in her two-page statement.

Guzman said the decision was made primarily out of concerns for on-campus safety. “The intensity of feelings, fueled by both social media and the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, has grown to include many voices outside of USC and has escalated to the point of creating substantial risks relating to security and disruption at commencement,” he wrote. “We cannot ignore the fact that similar risks have led to harassment and even violence at other campuses.”

In the statement, Tabassum wrote that she met with the Office of the Provost Sunday to express her own concerns about safety at commencement, to which they responded that “the University had the resources to take appropriate safety measures for my valedictory speech, but that they would not be doing so since increased security protections is not what the University wants to ‘present as an image.’”

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Dangerman  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:16:21pm
…Dewar allegedly submitted four fraudulent tax returns on behalf of a trust, aiming to secure refunds the trust wasn’t legitimately entitled to.

The indictment details that Dewar falsified information on these returns, claiming substantial income for the trust, fabricated payments to the IRS, and purported federal tax withholdings on behalf of the trust. …

She persisted in this deceitful behavior and false claims even after receiving notifications from the IRS which stated that her claims were suspicious. In total, she sought refunds amounting to over $1.9 million, of which approximately $500,000 was disbursed by the IRS.

….

Link

this is not a refundable credit like the EITC, where you can get a refund even if you paid nothing

i was not aware the IRS would disburse refunds of this type without even verifying that the tax had first been paid in

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:18:34pm

So this is a Ken Burns style “documentary” on Trump’s Gettysburg comments. Hilarious.

Gettysburg, Wow

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KGxvi  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:23:31pm

The last of the Boys of Summer has all gone to the great game of the beyond:

Carl Erskine, who pitched two no-hitters as a mainstay on the Brooklyn Dodgers and was a 20-game winner in 1953 when he struck out a then-record 14 in the World Series, died Tuesday. He was 97.

Sandy Koufax is the last surviving member of the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers team. He was a 19 year old rookie who pitched 41.2 innings over 12 games.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:27:03pm

re: #68 BlueSpotinAL ✅

The “lost his great general” bit bugs me. IIRC Lee didn’t lose a general of note there. The intern who wrote his gibberish was probably thinking of the friendly-fire shooting of Jackson at Chancellorsville.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:34:47pm

The one really weird thing from the Trump trial jury is that there’s already a foreperson. Admittedly I’ve only served on one jury but we selected our own foreperson during deliberation, having the Judge just pick some random juror early on before they’re all selected seems low key problematic.

bsky.app

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steve_davis  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:34:47pm

re: #27 Jay C

Archeologists think it may have been a Scythian from the West Eurasian Steppe some time around 1500 BCE: ISTR they dug up a bronze bowl in (?Ukraine? Bulgaria?) and found that the crud still clinging to it was cannabis resin: it’s thought they burned the weed under the bowl, then picked it up and huffed the smoke.
But for whatever reason, they never got around to inventing the bong….

because Coke wasn’t a company yet, so no ready-made emergency party device.

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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:37:41pm

re: #72 steve_davis

ROME SERIES- Funny hemp smoking scene

We did this with hash and a big pin. Take a chunk, stick a big pin in it, and heat it up and inhale the smoke.

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:38:50pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Like, we selected this one lady because she had 25 years experience as a paralegal under her belt, twenty years as an NCO in the Army JAG Corps and then five working for Amgen.

I mean it’s not a terribly difficult role but you def want someone in it who is unflappable and detail oriented.

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Mike Lamb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:42:34pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

The one really weird thing from the Trump trial jury is that there’s already a foreperson. Admittedly I’ve only served on one jury but we selected our own foreperson during deliberation, having the Judge just pick some random juror early on before they’re all selected seems low key problematic.

bsky.app

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The dude is hate watching/reading something. Question is, is which.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:43:08pm

re: #72 steve_davis

because Coke wasn’t a company yet, so no ready-made emergency party device.

Pretty sure they had apples

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Randall Gross  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:46:12pm
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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:46:47pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

THEY PICKED AN IMMIGRANT FOR MY JURY FOREMAN11!

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:47:01pm

re: #51 gwangung

There’s A LOT of similar posts going up.

They all are point out the orange one’s humiliation IN PUBLIC over them.

I am SO here for that.

Me too. Let’s get the next two dozen jurors up there to share their mockery of Trump. Read every single post into the record.

Ridicule is a sharp sword.

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:47:02pm
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steve_davis  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:47:14pm

re: #52 sagehen

My guess: the fire-tender thought that looked like good kindling, tossed it on, it had a pleasing smell and the people sitting around began to feel, hey now what’s that, let’s put handprints on the walls, that dinner is delicious, tell me that story again I seem to have lost track….

“that dinner was delicious….let’s have another….see if that Domino’s Patzutzu magnet card is still on the anvil. That dude makes the tastiest sacrificial virgins.”

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aatharuv  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:48:07pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

THEY PICKED AN IMMIGRANT FOR MY JURY FOREMAN11!

But he’s an immigrant from a “good” country, so that’s okay for Donnie *snark*

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darthstar  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:48:19pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

New York… first juror selected is the foreperson.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:48:47pm

The best way to answer the oft asked question:

What if everyone jumped at once?


..

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:49:03pm

HOA Neighborhood Goose Alert:

-We have a very protective goose keeping an eye on its nest. She is hissing and diving at people and cars that go by.
Please do not approach or interact with the goose, and please drive carefully.
The nest is on the pond side near the entrance to the subdivision-

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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:49:10pm

Hand pressed Black Afghan.
jfc
I can taste it from here….
dammit…

How Afghanistan Gets High (Growing Their Own Hash)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:50:01pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

That tweet seems like fuel for doxxing.

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steve_davis  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:51:18pm

re: #66 goddamnedfrank

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does she actually believe in “human rights for all,” or is she yet another in a long string of “push the jews into the sea” folks?

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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:51:24pm

re: #76 Lancelot Link Returns!

Pretty sure they had apples

Snek was bogarting all the apples.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:54:35pm

This should help with tomorrow’s trades:

Trump’s stock tumbles again after Truth Social announces it’s getting into streaming
cnn.com

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silverdolphin  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:56:11pm

re: #47 The Ghost of a Flea

Capitalism, standing next to a giant knob labelled “Death,” slowing turning it from “just passively cause people to die to make more money” to “actively kill people to make more money” while looking for signs somebody’s going to stop them.

Your description reminded me of the greatest depiction of this from Fritz LAng’s great movie, Metropolis. The more things change…

‘Moloch!’ clip from Metropolis 1927

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jaunte  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:56:40pm

re: #90 Decatur Deb

Not satisfied with the current rate of burn, Truth Social announces it’s getting into streaming.

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nines09  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:58:40pm

Is Jim Cramer anywhere on TV or streaming jacking up Truth Social as a good buy?
Effing stooge still has a job as he told people to invest in a sinking ship.
jfc the stupids…
Him a personality and he must have negatives of some stuff…

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 1:59:38pm

re: #88 steve_davis

does he actually believe in “human rights for all,” or is she yet another in a long string of “push the jews into the sea” folks?

Why don’t you go find out yourself?

Or is just repeating the accusation good enough?

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:01:03pm

re: #32 Dangerman

same guy who cooked the first lobster

Or ate an oyster.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:01:13pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

The one really weird thing from the Trump trial jury is that there’s already a foreperson. Admittedly I’ve only served on one jury but we selected our own foreperson during deliberation, having the Judge just pick some random juror early on before they’re all selected seems low key problematic.

bsky.app

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Daily Fail and Fox are red flags for me. MSNBC was a red herring.

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steve_davis  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:03:38pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

Why don’t you go find out yourself?

Or is just repeating the accusation good enough?

I’m not “repeating an accusation.” I’m asking a question. Do you have the answer?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:16:15pm

re: #78 Decatur Deb

THEY PICKED AN IMMIGRANT FOR MY JURY FOREMAN11!

Yeah but he’s from one of them there white countries so go back to sleep Don Snoreleone!

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:17:23pm

re: #97 steve_davis

I’m not “repeating an accusation.” I’m asking a question. Do you have the answer?

The article says:

Guzman, however, wrote that the valedictorian selection was made “based on various criteria - which did not include social media presence,” in the letter to the community. “Based on these faculty recommendations, I made the final decision.” The university had previously announced Tabassum as valedictorian on April 4 in an Academic Honors Convocation.

In her Instagram biography, Tabassum links to a pro-Palestine landing page that reads in part, “Learn about what’s happening in Palestine, and how to help.” Some students took to social media to express their opposition to her as their valedictorian due to the language on the landing page. The website states, “Zionism is a racist settler-colonial ideology that advocates for a Jewish ethnostate built on Palestinian land.”

I think it’s important to remember the nexus to power, and that this student has none, but is being silenced by the political sensibilities and gutless fears of those with immense power in this society, and they’re only doing it because she has no power.

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Captain Magic  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:19:15pm

I’m using my cochlear implant to hear 😀

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:24:13pm

re: #100 Captain Magic

I’m using my cochlear implant to hear 😀

They seem to be amazing devices.

Where is it on the satisfaction/ frustration spectrum?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:26:37pm

There’s literal famine in Gaza. Tens of thousands dead. About eight times as much explosive yield dropped per unit area as Hiroshima, but it’s some outraged USC valedictorian who is the problem, because lumping legit criticism with pat “push the jews into the sea” genocidal rhetoric is a very successful tactic people reflexively deploy to ignore shit they were never going to listen to in the first place.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:26:51pm

re: #96 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Daily Fail and Fox are red flags for me. MSNBC was a red herring.

I am waiting to be proven wrong, about my unpopular speculation that the jury will be hung because of at least one Trumper.

Yeah, anyone who continually consumes Fox News and the Daily Mail is not someone I trust to be able to sort truth from fiction.

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Captain Magic  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:30:45pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Music is what gets me in a bad state. Regular speech works well.
Depends on framing.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:31:04pm

Well look who came out of hiding and shot his mouth off about locking folks up!

Coming from the mouth of a sleazy Nazi who OUGHT to be in jail!

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silverdolphin  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:31:24pm

re: #103 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I am waiting to be proven wrong, about my unpopular speculation that the jury will be hung because of at least one Trumper.

Yeah, anyone who continually consumes Fox News and the Daily Mail is not someone I trust to be able to sort truth from fiction.

I think this could happen. But I really believe the things that will damage Trump will come from the trial itself. Six weeks of the details will sink in with a lot of people who have not been paying attention, thus why only 30% of Americans today think he did anything wrong. I think that number will increase a lot as the details come out. A mistrial does not make that go away, especially since he can be tried again.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:37:50pm

re: #105 Joe Bacon ✅

Well look who came out of hiding and shot his mouth off about locking folks up!

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Coming from the mouth of a sleazy Nazi who OUGHT to be in jail!

To be fair, that he and all his ilk can constantly talk about an active plan for violating everyone else’s rights and get no legal pushback, nor a shoe to the face, is a pretty good argument that he actually can say whatever he wants and never go to jail.

Whatever American imagines fairness and justice to be, de facto we let reactionaries off the hook because there’s a slim chance they let us keep most of our treats. And in turn, reactionaries let creeps and sadists off the hook because some animals are more equal than others, and if you’re the right kind of animal you can just…groom some teenage boys carte blanche.

Or you know, blow up a bunch of Yemeni kids with cluster munitions, vastly expanding the insurgency your bombs were supposed to stop.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:38:15pm

As we all predicted.

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:41:36pm
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retired cynic  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:45:52pm

re: #100 Captain Magic

I’m using my cochlear implant to hear 😀

That’s wonderful! I hope this is a permanent improvement!

I am dealing with an ongoing inner ear problem that causes a buildup of fluid inside. The left ear lost hearing altogether. It’s now between 10-50% depending on the day. There is a constant pressure and roar that makes anything other than a single voice very confusing. I am so much more empathetic to your issues than I was, although sympathy was always there.

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JC1  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:50:05pm

re: #109 gocart mozart

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Paraphrasing Ty Cobb or someone else?

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Captain Magic  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:55:09pm

re: #110 retired cynic

Cochlear implant gets you to understand speech at a good level, but it takes some understanding speech around 50%. Music absolutely blows. My other ear has some residual hearing available, but I am loathe to go bimodal as the surgery totally whacked hearing in the affected ear.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:56:13pm

There’s going to be a new war against PBS and NPR, this time with Christopher Rufo and others leading the charge. It’s all based on this article NPR Editor Url Berliner wrote a couple of weeks ago, where he claimed NPR was becoming “too progressive” and “agenda driven” - specifically to “damage or topple Trump’s presidency.”

I stopped reading the piece when I got to this paragraph:

But when the Mueller report found no credible evidence of collusion, NPR’s coverage was notably sparse. Russiagate quietly faded from our programming.

Berliner has been suspended by NPR, as discussed in this article.

Basically, he’s going to be the tool that helps Rufo and his goons try to take PBS out completely.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:58:28pm

re: #113 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

As I posted before about Rufo. He conspires with the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press to purge so-called liberals from everything.

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gocart mozart  Apr 16, 2024 • 2:59:34pm

re: #111 JC1

Ty Cobb reportedly

Cobb movie 1994 clip 3

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Captain Magic  Apr 16, 2024 • 3:00:34pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

The cochlear implant are great for speech and normal hearing, but suffer from trying to understand music.

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Vicious Babushka  Apr 16, 2024 • 3:12:53pm

re: #73 nines09

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We did this with hash and a big pin. Take a chunk, stick a big pin in it, and heat it up and inhale the smoke.

Youtube Video

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wrenchwench  Apr 16, 2024 • 3:15:17pm

re: #116 Captain Magic

The cochlear implant are great for speech and normal hearing, but suffer from trying to understand music.

That’s a huge come-down, but it’s not all the way down…


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