re: #27 lawhawk

Never go beyond the rail at the South Rim El Tovar.

I’ve walked the South Rim Trail. Visited the North Rim and did some smallish hikes there.

South Rim: significant crowds, especially where the bus stops are along the South Rim.
North Rim: nary a soul.

I’ve stopped going to the south rim during peak visitor season. The last couple of times, I went in winter. Much less stressful and you get a different view of the canyon. The north rim is definitely much quieter and even gives you just as awesome views. With 4WD, you can drive to overlooks where there is absolutely no one.