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retired cynic  Nov 28, 2020 • 9:38:38pm

That’s class.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:09:46pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:12:36pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:30:48pm

re: #3 Dread Pirate Ron

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Eeeeehhhhhh

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:40:12pm
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Teukka  Nov 28, 2020 • 10:54:20pm

So, found this short film…

Iframe

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:38:33pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:50:29pm

hi

So after a week of shying away from the new straight razor my wife bought, with images of a cut throat dancing through my head, I sat down and watched a ton of “so this is your first straight razor” videos on YouTube.

I had at least six weeks of beard growth because I’m lazy, so I watched a couple of understudies for ZZTop taking a razor to their faces.

Went in a bit more positive about it.

Came out looking like the shower scene in “Psycho” but mostly the bleeding has stopped.

I assume I will get better at this.

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Targetpractice  Nov 28, 2020 • 11:54:03pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron

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So the NYT staff are dedicating themselves to 4 years of kissing Joe’s ass and writing up puff pieces about Hunter? Well, if that’s what they think is for the best…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:09:31am
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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:13:40am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

hi

So after a week of shying away from the new straight razor my wife bought, with images of a cut throat dancing through my head, I sat down and watched a ton of “so this is your first straight razor” videos on YouTube.

I had at least six weeks of beard growth because I’m lazy, so I watched a couple of understudies for ZZTop taking a razor to their faces.

Went in a bit more positive about it.

Came out looking like the shower scene in “Psycho” but mostly the bleeding has stopped.

I assume I will get better at this.

Straight razors are … interesting… as you’re discovering. I prefer, when I shave, a nice safety razor with good platinum coated blades :D These days I have a beard trimmer instead.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:25:42am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

Prowse appeared in many films; several Hammer horror films as well as A Clockwork Orange. Less well-known is that he helped Christopher Reeves bulk up for his role in Superman - Prowse was his personal trainer.

RIP.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:30:28am

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Also, Britain’s greatest superhero;

Green Cross Code 1

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:36:55am

Karma, sometimes it comes at you fast
Should be RHOC (Real Housewives of Orange County)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 12:47:25am

Thread, nine tweets.

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Jack Burton  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:03:13am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, nine tweets.

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The delusional asshats responding to that thread are aneurysm inducing.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:09:49am

A few minutes of watching this and you’ll either be hypnotized or right dizzy:

FULL FLIGHT OF PROBE INTO SPACE BY SLIVKISHOW!

..

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:11:11am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, nine tweets.

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A quick glimpse at that thread, since it’s past my bedtime and I found the following response: “You cannot accommodate bad faith with anything substantive.”

Words to remember.

Goodnight, all.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:17:21am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:19:33am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:40:31am

re: #18 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

A quick glimpse at that thread, since it’s past my bedtime and I found the following response: “You cannot accommodate bad faith with anything substantive.”

Words to remember.

Goodnight, all.

That’s why I argue conservatism is a religion. Facts cannot penetrate what conservatives just know is true. It can only be mocked; it cannot be reasoned with.

If a conservative in good faith wants to know about why this is true or that is not, then sure, give them that answer. Bad faith arguments which are PRATTs do not deserve any of your time any more than bad faith religious arguments which are PRATTs. (If people evolved from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? If the USA evolved from England, why is there still an England? Treat conservative bad-faith arguments like that.)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:48:45am

re: #14 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

Karma, sometimes it comes at you fast
Should be RHOC (Real Housewives of Orange County)

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They apparently buy their own bullshit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Of course, the news that her mom tested positive is no surprise. Contrary to Dodd’s denialism on national television, arm-in-arm with her Fox News reporter husband, covid-19 does not pick and choose who it will infect. I’ve

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:03:50am

re: #15 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thread, nine tweets.

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Nate’s absolute right, Repubs always start talking “election security” right after they lose an election. Look for wingnut-majority legislatures to try to clamp down on absentee ballot voting before the midterms, with special emphasis on closing any loopholes in the law that allow for such voting due to a health emergency.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:06:30am

re: #23 Targetpractice

Nate’s absolute right, Repubs always start talking “election security” right after they lose an election. Look for wingnut-majority legislatures to try to clamp down on absentee ballot voting before the midterms, with special emphasis on closing any loopholes in the law that allow for such voting due to a health emergency.

There hasn’t been much talk of that in my state, but I”ll bet we’re going to hear the same we heard after NE-2 went for Obama in 2008, that we need to count all our electoral votes as one state rather than three separate districts.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:20:40am

re: #24 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

There hasn’t been much talk of that in my state, but I”ll bet we’re going to hear the same we heard after NE-2 went for Obama in 2008, that we need to count all our electoral votes as one state rather than three separate districts.

Not much talk about it right now here in VA, but I imagine that has something to do with the fact that the VA GOP no longer have control over the General Assembly. In decades past, there would have already been talk started about new/tighter voting legislation in time for the gubernatorial election next November. But with both houses and the top three spots in the hands of the Dems, there’s little chance of more than a few wingnut city/town gov’ts trying to “keep ‘those people’ in line.”

How bad is it for Repubs in this state right now? So bad that they’re putting their hopes on the “tradition” of the opposition party to the party in the WH winning the governor’s mansion.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:25:30am

Panhandle Public Health District doesn’t update the state of our genocide-in-progress over the weekends. However, they spend the weekends trying to do contact tracing.

I am considering calling PPHD to ask them to help contact tracing, since they are falling behind.

New cases: +8 on November 27 (this will go up on Monday).
Total cases: 5,839 (doubled since November 8)
Weekly positivity rate: Down to 43.1%
Cumulative positivity rate since the first case on March 29: 22.2%
Total in hospital with Covid-19: 71
All beds in the Panhandle: 215

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:31:00am
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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:37:14am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:43:08am

re: #29 Targetpractice

Yes please. Kill it good.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:55:37am

re: #29 Targetpractice

And here comes this zombie lie again.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:56:07am

It’s tiring, honestly.

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electrotek  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:56:22am

Trump supporters being petty and childish as always:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:58:06am

re: #33 electrotek

Trump supporters being petty and childish as always:

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Fuck them. I won’t waste an ounce of effort because not one of them is worth it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:58:16am

And more than a quarter million are dead.

“So we’ve determined you’re a genocidaire, all we need to negotiate now is how many bodies are acceptable to you.”

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Jack Burton  Nov 29, 2020 • 2:59:10am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And here comes this zombie lie again.

“Why should I pay for your health care”

Completely ignoring that the plan they probably get at work is them paying for other people.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:05:42am

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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And more than a quarter million are dead.

“So we’ve determined you’re a genocidaire, all we need to negotiate now is how many bodies are acceptable to you.”

Do you know if there are studies on paying effects (affects?)? I know there are the “long haulers” and I’ve seen permanently scarred lungs (and even fertility issues in men), but what had been shown for most people? Is it “no big deal” or long lasting problems?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:15:58am

Wyoming “truthers” are a thing. The subreddit r/wyomingdoesntexist has more people than the subreddit dedicated to Wyoming.

BRAD STAMAN: Is Wyoming really not real?

For those who think they exist and live in a state about 40 miles west of Scottsbluff, there is bad news. Wyoming, the state you call home, doesn’t exist.

This shocking news comes from a strange internet theory. If you read the story in this week’s Hometowns or on the Star-Herald’s website you might still be scratching your head or trying to recover from laughing so hard it hurt. If this is the first you’ve heard of it-surprise.

In reading the story it is clear it started as a joke, but some truly believe the Cowboy state is a figment if our imagination.

As stupid (wait a second stupid is probably politically incorrect, so how about as geographical challenged) as these individuals are let’s think this through. If you live in this nonexistent place, do you really exist? And if you don’t really exist then do you have to pay taxes to the IRS?

(Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:20:24am

From the opening of Return of the Jedi - even though of course James Earl Jones does some flawless voice acting in this scene, Dave Prowse’s physical performance in the Vader costume meshed with it perfectly, creating one of my favorite opening scenes in all of the Star Wars franchise.

Star Wars Episode VI Return Of The Jedi Opening Scene HD720p

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:21:47am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And here comes this zombie lie again.

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Of all the tricks the devil pulled, the greatest was convincing millions of Americans that they are “rugged individualists” if they don’t know they’re benefiting from a social contract. You got a health insurance policy? Every dollar past what you pay in deductibles is coming out of somebody else’s pocket. Yes, that even includes the co-pays, the discounted meds, the free/discounted exams, the “cheap” glasses and dental fillings, and so many other items that you’re not paying full freight for.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:22:15am

re: #37 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Do you know if there are studies on paying effects (affects?)? I know there are the “long haulers” and I’ve seen permanently scarred lungs (and even fertility issues in men), but what had been shown for most people? Is it “no big deal” or long lasting problems?

There really can’t be any longitudinal studies, since the disease has only been around since last December.

As Their Numbers Grow, COVID-19 “Long Haulers” Stump Experts (Journal of the American Medical Association, September 23, 2020)

In a recent JAMA research letter, 125 of 143 Italian patients ranging in age from 19 to 84 years still experienced physician-confirmed COVID-19-related symptoms an average of 2 months after their first symptom emerged. All had been hospitalized, with their stays averaging about 2 weeks; 80% hadn’t received any form of ventilation.

Physicians at a Paris hospital recently reported that they saw an average of 30 long haulers every week between mid-May, when the COVID-19 lockdown ended in France, and late July. The patients’ average age was around 40 years, and women outnumbered men 4 to 1.

As with SARS, many COVID-19 long haulers are health care workers who had massive exposure to the virus early in the pandemic, neuroimmunologist Avindra Nath, MD, of the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS), noted in a recent editorial.

Overall, approximately 10% of people who’ve had COVID-19 experience prolonged symptoms, a UK team estimated in a recently published Practice Pointer on postacute COVID-19 management. And yet, the authors wrote, primary care physicians have little evidence to guide their care.

(more, not paywalled)

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:26:06am

re: #33 electrotek

Trump supporters being petty and childish as always:

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Contrary to what they may be reading in the corporate media, we’re not looking to make nice with MAGAts. If one is a diehard Trump supporter and their response to his loss is childish shit like that tweet, then they can feel free to get fucked.

Oh, and to cry harder, because their tears are a great source of nourishment in these trying times.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:29:19am

re: #42 Targetpractice

Contrary to what they may be reading in the corporate media, we’re not looking to make nice with MAGAts. If one is a diehard Trump supporter and their response to his loss is childish shit like that tweet, then they can feel free to get fucked.

Oh, and to cry harder, because their tears are a great source of nourishment in these trying times.

I peeked over into Freeperville, and most of them are still breathing that rarified air in the alternate reality they inhabit. Only a relative handful seem to recognize the truth of the situation.

When the EC votes that Biden is indeed the duly elected 46th President of the United States of America, it’s going to break their minds. And I’m sure it won’t be just them - the MAGAts will be in full-on meltdown too.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:38:28am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

I peeked over into Freeperville, and most of them are still breathing that rarified air in the alternate reality they inhabit. Only a relative handful seem to recognize the truth of the situation.

When the EC votes that Biden is indeed the duly elected 46th President of the United States of America, it’s going to break their minds. And I’m sure it won’t be just them - the MAGAts will be in full-on meltdown too.

Yeah, reading through tweets produced through “Supreme Court” and “SCOTUS” searches in the past 48 hours has been a hoot. They’ve gone full Heaven’s Gate, totally divorced from reality and babbling about how the moment Ellis gets her case before the USSC bench, it’s gonna totally blow up the election and Biden’s gonna be on his way to prison while Trump takes the oath of office with a grinning ACB holding the Bible.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:51:15am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I mean, there’s this big square in the Rocky Mountains on maps, but have you ever met anyone from Wyoming?

Have you ever seen a car with Wyoming license plates?

Sure, those of us in the Nebraska Panhandle can say you see almost as many cars with Wyoming license plates as Nebraska license plates in Scottsbluff, but would you even believe those eyewitness accounts? Who names a town Scottsbluff, anyway?

Sometimes I wonder if some conspiracy theories start out as gags. Zetetic astronomy (flat eartherism) was promoted in the mid-XIX Century, and the guy who came up with it distributed pamphlets on the subject. That was later taken up as a cause célèbre by one Lady Blount, who put her considerable wealth behind establishing a Zetetic Society in both the UK and the USA, and distributing the pamphlets, then a book on the subject.

So one wonders if “Wyoming” might become a serious conspiracy theory in the future, with those of us who live near the state in on the conspiracy to hide the fact no people actually live there.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:51:54am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Yeah, reading through tweets produced through “Supreme Court” and “SCOTUS” searches in the past 48 hours has been a hoot. They’ve gone full Heaven’s Gate, totally divorced from reality and babbling about how the moment Ellis gets her case before the USSC bench, it’s gonna totally blow up the election and Biden’s gonna be on his way to prison while Trump takes the oath of office with a grinning ACB holding the Bible.

They’re gonna totally lose their shit when Biden is sworn in come January.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:54:58am

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

They’re gonna totally lose their shit when Biden is sworn in come January.

We won’t even have to wait that long. They’re set to go nuclear in the next couple weeks, when the EC votes and the courts don’t magically overturn it all.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 3:56:12am

re: #47 Targetpractice

We won’t even have to wait that long. They’re set to go nuclear in the next couple weeks, when the EC votes and the courts don’t magically overturn it all.

Yeah - it’s going to a Chernobyl-esque meltdown, not just on FR but on the other RWNJ sites, too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:06:55am

re: #47 Targetpractice

We won’t even have to wait that long. They’re set to go nuclear in the next couple weeks, when the EC votes and the courts don’t magically overturn it all.

Many Trump supporters display some of the characteristics of an apocalyptic cult.

From “rounding up all the deep state criminals” to magical thinking about their “end times” (a second election victory), many will not be able to process the fact he lost the election (by a bigger margin: He won with 304 electoral votes, and I’m aware of the faithless electors but the fact remains those electors didn’t vote for him) versus 306 for Biden (assuming no faithless electors).

Explanations for why the election did not go their way get more absurd by the day, from massive amounts of in-person voter fraud to “states dumping ballots from who knows where” (that claim comes up from Republicans nearly every election though).

Most Trump supporters aren’t Q-nuts, but those folks are goading on Trump supporters with their bullshyte claims, as is the Republican Party itself.

While some apocalyptic cults simply fade away and others re-calibrate when their predictions don’t pan out, a lot of members of such groups will commit suicide.

Can Trump’s Followers Be Called a “Cult”? (Psychology Today, November 13, 2020)

Definitions vary, but a basic one that applies across disciplines is, “A religion or sect, generally considered to be extremist or false, under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader for whom members exhibit fixed, even religious, veneration.” Mr. Trump’s most devoted followers are a relatively small part of the U.S. electorate. They tend to believe in a very specific idea of patriotism that includes international isolationism and xenophobia, under the guidance of a man who some claim was “chosen by God” to lead them.

(more at the link, not paywalled)

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:09:48am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And here comes this zombie lie again.

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you already do pay for other people health care. were only talking about how and when.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:13:33am

re: #40 Targetpractice

Of all the tricks the devil pulled, the greatest was convincing millions of Americans that they are “rugged individualists” if they don’t know they’re benefiting from a social contract. You got a health insurance policy? Every dollar past what you pay in deductibles is coming out of somebody else’s pocket. Yes, that even includes the co-pays, the discounted meds, the free/discounted exams, the “cheap” glasses and dental fillings, and so many other items that you’re not paying full freight for.

and the other way too…
a year with no significant health costs, where do you think all your premiums went?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:15:41am

I don’t think some of these people actually believe this. Listen to them. It’s like a joke to them.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:15:43am

re: #43 Dr Lizardo

I peeked over into Freeperville, and most of them are still breathing that rarified air in the alternate reality they inhabit. Only a relative handful seem to recognize the truth of the situation.

When the EC votes that Biden is indeed the duly elected 46th President of the United States of America, it’s going to break their minds. And I’m sure it won’t be just them - the MAGAts will be in full-on meltdown too.

they’ll move the goalposts to “its not official until congress…”

then they’ll have to settle on we all know there was massive fraud, they just wouldn’t let us prove it.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:20:17am

re: #49 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I recall reading here not long ago some interview with a QAnon nut Trump supporter (maybe it was you who posted it) and that supporter sounded, IMHO, like she’d commit suicide and kill her kids as well if Trump lost the election and Biden became POTUS. She was worried “the cabal” was going to take them and eat them or whatever insane nonsense these people believe in.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:22:14am

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

I recall reading here not long ago some interview with a QAnon nut Trump supporter (maybe it was you who posted it) and that supporter sounded, IMHO, like she’d commit suicide and kill her kids as well if Trump lost the election and Biden became POTUS. She was worried “the cabal” was going to take them and eat them or whatever insane nonsense these people believe in.

Natural selection. 👋🏼

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:25:33am

re: #52 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t think some of these people actually believe this. Listen to them. It’s like a joke to them.

Well, there’s the issue of someone sticking a microphone and camera in your face, which can upset you.

There is also the issue of “man-on-the-street” interviews, where people tend to pull either the most absurd or most supportive clips, depending on their agenda.

Plus, the fellow was interviewing a person selling a craptonne of Trump gear, which I presume he had to put his own money into first.

We already have reports of people travelling around to Trump rallies like they’re groupies at a Grateful Dead concert. All those people (a few score in some places, more in others) out in so-called “Stop the Steal” rallies or anti-mask rallies aren’t doing it for the lulz. Neither are folks like the Proud Boys.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:38:37am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:39:45am

re: #54 Dr Lizardo

I recall reading here not long ago some interview with a QAnon nut Trump supporter (maybe it was you who posted it) and that supporter sounded, IMHO, like she’d commit suicide and kill her kids as well if Trump lost the election and Biden became POTUS. She was worried “the cabal” was going to take them and eat them or whatever insane nonsense these people believe in.

I do too, though I can’t find it now. I did find this from FOX News (May 15, 2019):

Actor Isaac Kappy dead at 42 after he ‘forced himself off’ a bridge, posted ominous apology to Trump, QAnon

Actor Isaac Kappy died Monday morning after he “forced himself off” a bridge in Arizona. He was 42 years old.

Around 7:30 a.m. Monday, state troopers responded to call at Interstate 40 after a man “forced himself off” the Transwestern Road bridge near Bellemont onto the highway, Arizona Department of Public Safety spokesman, Bart Graves, told The Arizona Daily Sun.

Two teens reportedly attempted to stop Kappy from jumping but were unsuccessful, and he was then struck by a passing vehicle.

(More)

In the article, which details his thinking, he compares himself to the reincarnation of Judas Iscariot for failing Q and Trump.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:42:52am

Morning Lizardim.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:43:36am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:44:19am

re: #59 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim.

No it’s not. It’s still dark. /s

hi

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:45:40am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:48:22am

re: #58 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I do too, though I can’t find it now. I did find this from FOX News (May 15, 2019):

Actor Isaac Kappy dead at 42 after he ‘forced himself off’ a bridge, posted ominous apology to Trump, QAnon

(More)

In the article, which details his thinking, he compares himself to the reincarnation of Judas Iscariot for failing Q and Trump.

What on Earth does “forcing himself off” mean?

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:53:41am

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No it’s not. It’s still dark. /s

hi

Like it or not, it is a morning. “Good” is yet to be determined.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:55:46am

Awwwww.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:56:38am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 4:56:58am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 5:02:28am

How it started:

Where it went:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 5:13:28am

Is the morning good yet?

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 5:25:51am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:05:17am

re: #38 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wyoming “truthers” are a thing. The subreddit r/wyomingdoesntexist has more people than the subreddit dedicated to Wyoming.

BRAD STAMAN: Is Wyoming really not real?

(Goes to the Scottsbluff, Nebr. Star-Herald)

There was a similar theory about the city of Bielefeld in Germany.

I am sure that Santa Claus wonders if there really is a Virginia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:07:58am

re: #40 Targetpractice

Of all the tricks the devil pulled, the greatest was convincing millions of Americans that they are “rugged individualists” if they don’t know they’re benefiting from a social contract.

“Rugged” = individuals and families with limited income and resources negotiating one-on-one with multi-billion international corporations for terms of health insurance, employment, or financial services.

Because anything else would not be as ruggedly individualistic.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:14:38am

re: #72 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Rugged” = individuals and families with limited income and resources negotiating one-on-one with multi-billion international corporations for terms of health insurance, employment, or financial services.

Because anything else would not be as ruggedly individualistic.

Labor unions? Socialized medicine? We don’t need any of that, The Corporation (tm) knows what is best for you and The Corporation (tm) will take good care of you.

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jeffreyw  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:19:20am

It’s a Mystery

Good morning!

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:21:32am

This site makes a definitive and convincing case on how Biden stole the election: howbidenstoletheelection.com.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:44:27am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:44:46am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:51:11am

re: #10 Dr Lizardo

re: #66 DodgerFan1988

RIP Mr Prowse.

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mmmirele  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:52:22am

I’m going picketing this morning, and the target is Evident Life Church of Gilbert, whose pastor, Eric Jones, believes the (false) prophets who are telling him that Trump really won.

(video behind the button)

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Here are my signs:

That said, I had a disquieting conversation with my brother yesterday:

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:53:58am

re: #33 electrotek

Trump supporters being petty and childish as always:

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It’s true. We showed Trump exactly the same respect that he showed Obama.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:55:58am

re: #79 mmmirele

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:56:30am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 6:57:24am

re: #33 electrotek

🤷🏽‍♀️ Who cares? We already know how they feel about President Biden and we saw the disrespect and racism they showed President Obama and Mrs Obama. We don’t expect them to change.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:00:33am

Blind squirrel david brooks finds half an acorn
Not realizing he helped plant the original acorn and tended the tree that dropped this half acorn

Are they “detached from reality” or have their collective iqs merely dropped 100 points?

David Brooks: “In a recent Monmouth University survey, 77 percent of Trump backers said Joe Biden had won the presidential election because of fraud. Many of these same people think climate change is not real. Many of these same people believe they don’t need to listen to scientific experts on how to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.”

“We live in a country in epistemological crisis, in which much of the Republican Party has become detached from reality.”

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:03:27am
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A Cranky One  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:05:16am

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:05:50am

re: #84 dangerman

“We live in a country in epistemological crisis, in which much of the Republican Party has become detached from reality.”

You have to wonder at the number of people holding up the behavior of Trump and his spineless supporters as something they want their own children to emulate.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:07:02am

re: #85 jaunte

To me, this absolutely defines Trumpism; doing the opposite of what should be done. Pure trump.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:07:24am

High school basketball game descends into chaos when losers won’t accept final score.
Trump says we win if we feel like we won!

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:10:05am

Emergency memetic- comic relief delivery:

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:10:53am

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

To me, this absolutely defines Trumpism; doing the opposite of what should be done. Pure trump.

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It became clear in hindsight that this was his overall strategy: Claim victory on the early returns, and if he wound up losing based on mail-in ballots, try to get all of them thrown out. To that end, his exhorting his cult to vote in-person makes sense; he wanted to make sure that a sweeping anti-mail-in-ballot initiative wouldn’t wind up screwing himself over. Where he fell short is that even his judicial appointees have enough integrity, or survival instinct, or whatever you want to call it, to refuse to just blatantly cast aside the results of a legal and legitimate election based on the whims of the man who would be king. As a result, his failure to encourage his supporters to vote by any means necessary looks like a mistake in hindsight - and it definitely was - but it was also a deliberate part of his overall gambit.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:13:04am

re: #78 PhillyPretzel

RIP Mr Prowse.

The body is gone
The voice lives on

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:13:21am

re: #91 thedopefishlives

It became clear in hindsight that this was his overall strategy: Claim victory on the early returns, and if he wound up losing based on mail-in ballots, try to get all of them thrown out. To that end, his exhorting his cult to vote in-person makes sense; he wanted to make sure that a sweeping anti-mail-in-ballot initiative wouldn’t wind up screwing himself over. Where he fell short is that even his judicial appointees have enough integrity, or survival instinct, or whatever you want to call it, to refuse to just blatantly cast aside the results of a legal and legitimate election based on the whims of the man who would be king. As a result, his failure to encourage his supporters to vote by any means necessary looks like a mistake in hindsight - and it definitely was - but it was also a deliberate part of his overall gambit.

Exactly what the GA SoS said. Trump screwed his own pooch. (Ewwww, sorry!)

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:14:19am

re: #92 dangerman

Yes. James Earl Jones has a very memorable voice.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:14:19am
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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:16:35am

Coordinated propaganda push

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:17:18am

My question is, what dim-witted “adviser” came up with this hare-brained scheme that involved getting courts to invalidate potentially millions of mail-in ballots? I mean, jeez, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together could surely see that even IF the courts ruled in their favor, it would be an untold disaster that still might backfire on them.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:18:19am

re: #96 jaunte

Coordinated propaganda push

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Someone needs to have a chyron under the President*: “[citation needed]”

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:20:52am

re: #90 Teukka

Emergency memetic- comic relief delivery:

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Sauce: reddit.com

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:21:23am

re: #98 thedopefishlives

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:22:41am

re: #100 jaunte

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Oh, it’s on Faux. Well, that’s not getting fact-checked.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:23:06am

re: #88 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

To me, this absolutely defines Trumpism; doing the opposite of what should be done. Pure trump.

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The first part is true. Pre election he needed more mail in ballots.

The second is nonsense. Utter nonsense.

The order the ba!lots are counted is meaningless.
There is no “lead” that is “lost”.
The single significant result is the total after *all* the ballots are counted.
Any intermediate status report is arbitrary and worthless
It signifies absolutely nothing

Stop feeding this idiotic frame!

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:23:19am

re: #91 thedopefishlives

It became clear in hindsight that this was his overall strategy: Claim victory on the early returns, and if he wound up losing based on mail-in ballots, try to get all of them thrown out. To that end, his exhorting his cult to vote in-person makes sense; he wanted to make sure that a sweeping anti-mail-in-ballot initiative wouldn’t wind up screwing himself over. Where he fell short is that even his judicial appointees have enough integrity, or survival instinct, or whatever you want to call it, to refuse to just blatantly cast aside the results of a legal and legitimate election based on the whims of the man who would be king. As a result, his failure to encourage his supporters to vote by any means necessary looks like a mistake in hindsight - and it definitely was - but it was also a deliberate part of his overall gambit.

I’m not sure that the word ‘strategy’ really applies. As with all ideas that originate in right wing media, the words are simply noises and bodily emanations that convey an unspoken emotion or concept. In this case, the concept is quite clear - votes from ‘those people’ should not count, can’t possibly be legal or right. Republicans have been building towards this for a while, but as with everything in the Trump era, the quiet part is now spoken more loudly. Hence the disbelief from Trump voters and FOX news hosts - how could Joe Biden possibly have gotten 80 million votes? They know, they just know, like they know everything they are so incredibly certain of in their little reptile brains, that there is no way those 80 million votes are legal, because they know that the people who cast them aren’t legal. They’re just not. They’re not legal because that’s what the law is - it’s a mechanism that defines those people as not people, and us, the real Americans, as people. So there’s no way 80 million actual people voted for Biden, because they know who the actual people are.

This same principle applies to all other right wing ideas. When people say they voted the way they did because of ‘court packing’, or ‘abortion’, or whatever magic word they choose, it’s not true. The truth is, they consume right wing media, and in the FOX cinematic universe, they were told who the villains were. Their response was as natural as it was mandatory - the words mean nothing, and are just regurgitations.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:23:28am

re: #101 thedopefishlives

I love the giant ON THE PHONE explainer.

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dangerman  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:23:48am

re: #89 jaunte

High school basketball game descends into chaos when losers won’t accept final score.
Trump says we win if we feel like we won!

It’s what happens when everyone gets a trophy

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:23:50am

CALLING IT IN, AS USUAL

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:24:23am

re: #104 jaunte

I love the giant ON THE PHONE explainer.

Well, let’s be fair, probably 2/3 of their audience can’t read.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:26:33am

Now for a day of massive dumps jokes.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:27:34am

re: #94 PhillyPretzel

Yes. James Earl Jones has a very memorable voice.

And a good presence. He played one of my favorite villains, Thulsa Doom, in Conan the Barbarian.

Smart casting choice too - he brought his considerable acting experience and gravitas to the role, which helped elevate that flick to pretty much the gold standard of the “sword and sorcery” fantasy genre.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:29:35am
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:30:42am
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sagehen  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:31:56am

Sunday Ethics Exercise:

If Trump had responded appropriately to the pandemic, if he’d been even minimally competent, there would have been fewer than half as many deaths. And, he probably would have been reelected.

WOULD IT BE WORTH IT?

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:32:32am

re: #109 Dr Lizardo

He was in The Hunt for Red October. He very good in that movie too.

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Nojay UK  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:34:23am

re: #71 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a similar theory about the city of Bielefeld in Germany.

It’s like the city of Ausgang in Germany, it’s signposted to hell and gone on the autobahn but if you take the exit you can never find it.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:34:43am
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:35:11am
Trump whines to Maria Bartiromo about the “massive dumps” he says cost him the election

We are going to have to flush this turd 10-15 times.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:36:42am

re: #113 PhillyPretzel

He was in The Hunt for Red October. He very good in that movie too.

He had a small role as the B52 bombardier in Dr Strangelove, 1964.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:37:02am

re: #114 Nojay UK

It’s like the city of Ausgang in Germany, it’s signposted to hell and gone on the autobahn but if you take the exit you can never find it.

And the “Not Exit” door when the building is on fire and you are desperately trying to find a way out.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:37:03am
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BigPapa  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:38:36am
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Nojay UK  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:43:02am

re: #92 dangerman

The body is gone
The voice lives on

Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard

From about 1:20 onwards.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:43:06am

re: #3 Dread Pirate Ron

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:44:55am

re: #30 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Yes please. Kill it good.

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I remember a few years back the senior Senator from South Carolina said that going for DT would destroy the Republican Party. And they would deserve it.

I don’t agree with the guy much, but it’s looking like he may have been right.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:45:04am

re: #33 electrotek

Trump supporters being petty and childish as always:

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in other words, he’ll show Biden and the Democrats exactly the same level of respect he spent eight years showing Obama and the Democrats who voted for him: absolutely none.

No amount of disrespect directed toward Trump can equal or exceed the amount of disrespect Trump has demonstrated over four years to the Office of the Presidency, the nation, and the world.

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lizardofid  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:47:15am

re: #108 jaunte

Now for a day of massive dumps jokes.

Massive dumps and his rage tweeting. I guess the question it comes down to the same old question. Causation or correlation?

Oh, hello everyone!

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:47:52am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Yeah, reading through tweets produced through “Supreme Court” and “SCOTUS” searches in the past 48 hours has been a hoot. They’ve gone full Heaven’s Gate, totally divorced from reality and babbling about how the moment Ellis gets her case before the USSC bench, it’s gonna totally blow up the election and Biden’s gonna be on his way to prison while Trump takes the oath of office with a grinning ACB holding the Bible.

Will the Marshall of the Supreme Court be the one arresting Biden?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:49:03am

Interesting article that as President of the Senate, Kamala Harris can give priority recognition to other Senators instead of Yurtle even if the GOP has the majority. I hope they consider this option to get covid relief enacted early if Yurtle is in full obstruction mode if the Democrats don’t sweep the Georgia runoffs. newsflector.com

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:50:33am

re: #127 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Interesting article that as President of the Senate, Kamala Harris can give priority recognition to other Senators instead of Yurtle even if the GOP has the majority. I hope they consider this option to get covid relief enacted early if Yurtle is in full obstruction mode if the Democrats don’t sweep the Georgia runoffs. newsflector.com

Would this also apply to Biden’s cabinet nominees, could they be brought to a vote by the same means?

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:50:53am

Going out as he came in, ignorant of his ignorance

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:51:27am

re: #74 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

And a good morning to you and all the Lizard Nation.

Soon to be fresh baked banana nut bread.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:54:22am

re: #128 thedopefishlives

Would this also apply to Biden’s cabinet nominees, could they be brought to a vote by the same means?

Yes. Kamala Harris can give priority recognition to any Senator for any purpose.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:55:48am

re: #129 jaunte

Trump really believes he’s a dictator. He’s anti-democratic to the hilt.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:57:16am

He really believes that Amy will reverse the election for him. “I’d like you to do me a favor though.”

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lizardofid  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:57:42am

re: #129 jaunte

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Going out as he came in, ignorant of his ignorance

Like Randy Newman said about the good ole boys at LSU.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:57:47am

The Great Toilet Paper Hoarding Frenzy is on again.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:58:25am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 7:58:39am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Great Toilet Paper Hoarding Frenzy is on again.

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People are STUPID.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:00:26am

re: #113 PhillyPretzel

He was in The Hunt for Red October. He very good in that movie too.

And Field of Dreams.

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lizardofid  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:01:24am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Great Toilet Paper Hoarding Frenzy is on again.

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The national stockpile has been wiped out!

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:01:27am
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jaunte  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:02:06am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:02:23am

re: #137 thedopefishlives

People are STUPID.

Santa has noticed and will be taking the month off. With the election over, we don’t even have printed political propaganda to take up the slack. Maybe the Trumpsters will add mass mail to their anti-democracy campaign:

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:03:21am

re: #141 jaunte

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He literally has never given a shit about the pandemic or doing anything about it. It doesn’t even register on his radar. He only cares about himself and not going to jail once Tish James gets her hands on him.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:03:51am

They are buying toilet paper again. I think I have enough.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:06:44am

re: #115 jaunte

If there is any doubt that Republicans are fascists, this should put that doubt to rest. Keep in mind that the Georgian SoS is receiving death threats for doing his freaking job.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:07:24am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

COVID-19 is, to the best of my knowledge, not known to attack the bunghole.

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TedStriker  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:07:25am

re: #113 PhillyPretzel

He was in The Hunt for Red October. He very good in that movie too.

“I said speak your mind, Jack, but Jesus!”

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:08:01am

re: #147 TedStriker

“I said speak your mind, Jack, but Jesus!”

I saw that movie for the first time a few weeks ago. What a star-studded cast, holy shit. It was a phenomenal film.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:10:21am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

COVID-19 is, to the best of my knowledge, not known to attack the bunghole.

It’s being spread by assholes though.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:13:08am

re: #74 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Teukka  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:13:56am

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The Great Toilet Paper Hoarding Frenzy is on again.

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Crapture?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:16:47am
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Teukka  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:19:13am

Content Warning: Troll.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:22:55am

re: #152 The Pie Overlord!

Just waiting for Trump himself to tell his supporters cultists, “You know, it’s all rigged there in Georgia and if I were you, I wouldn’t even bother to vote, don’t even bother, it’s rigged, the Democrats, they’re gonna win Georgia.”

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:24:03am

re: #137 thedopefishlives

People are STUPID.

The first time around there were actual supply chain issues. This time? People not thinking it through and the media stoking fears with breathless reports. I’ve had more than one person tell me I should get more TP while I can. Since I just broke into a Costco-Pak of TP that ought to last the 2 of us for 3 months or so, I’ve declined to acquire more. But, I was at Costco a couple weeks ago and probably 80% of the carts had TP, paper towels, or both in them.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:27:05am

re: #82 Belafon

Normie Transition Team
@CalmSporting
the staggering death totals probably mean that we will never get a full accounting of just how reckless and selfish we have been. the shame should persist forever, but of course it will not. because that would require a collective conscience we do not possess.

As I enter the tenth month of “stay at home,” I do not accept the “reckless and selfish” label, and I don’t believe in collective conscience (collective responsibility, yesterday). The people who should be ashamed will probably never read this, and certainly will never accept that they did anything wrong. Even if their loved ones — or even if they themselves — suffer or die of this, they will whine all the way to their graves about everyone who’s out to get them.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:29:00am

re: #154 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately he’s scheduled to rally for the Republican candidates on the Saturday before the election. That may be enough for them to win. I guess he could back out but who knows?

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:31:02am

re: #100 jaunte

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Trump whines to Maria Bartiromo about the “massive dumps” he says cost him the election

Go take a massive dump, DT.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:32:37am

re: #119 jaunte

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Random Words.

Strung together.

Repeat.

Nothing more.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:32:52am

re: #155 calochortus

re: #137 thedopefishlives

People are STUPID.

The first time around there were actual supply chain issues. This time? People not thinking it through and the media stoking fears with breathless reports. I’ve had more than one person tell me I should get more TP while I can. Since I just broke into a Costco-Pak of TP that ought to last the 2 of us for 3 months or so, I’ve declined to acquire more. But, I was at Costco a couple weeks ago and probably 80% of the carts had TP, paper towels, or both in them.

And even the first time around, the “supply chain issues” were almost entirely demand-driven: mainly due to hoarding behavior: the (somewhat more-credible) fears of people being unable to get “out” to shop for stuff (and not wanting to get caught in a lockdown running out of bogroll) - and the (less-credible) apprehensions that COVID would disrupt production.
Though in the end, the shortages of paper goods still materialized, and still are.
Self-fulfilling prophecy, indeed.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:33:26am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:35:08am

re: #155 calochortus

Since I just broke into a Costco-Pak of TP that ought to last the 2 of us for 3 months or so, I’ve declined to acquire more. But, I was at Costco a couple weeks ago and probably 80% of the carts had TP, paper towels, or both in them.

Yesterday my Costco was out of toilet paper. Today it was in stock, so I bought a pack of 36 rolls of Scott-branded TP.

I also saw a whole lot of people buying paper toweling, and they got plenty in stock, so I’m not so worried about that.

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:35:13am

re: #160 Jay C

And even the first time around, the “supply chain issues” were almost entirely demand-driven: mainly due to hoarding behavior: the (somewhat more-credible) fears of people being unable to get “out” to shop for stuff (and not wanting to get caught in a lockdown running out of bogroll) - and the (less-credible) apprehensions that COVID would disrupt production.
Though in the end, the shortages of paper goods still materialized, and still are.
Self-fulfilling prophecy, indeed.

Many people actually did need more at home because they weren’t at work all day and the kids weren’t at school. Hoarding caused it all to snowball, as it were.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:35:28am

re: #157 Patricia Kayden

Unfortunately he’s scheduled to rally for the Republican candidates on the Saturday before the election. That may be enough for them to win. I guess he could back out but who knows?

I’d love it if he nixed that rally out of spite against the GOP.

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BigPapa  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:35:47am

re: #158 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

Go take a massive dump, DT.

Fact: family code for ‘release the Kraken’ means ‘I have to take a massive dump, you’ll need to stay out of there for a while.’

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:37:26am

re: #162 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yesterday my Costco was out of toilet paper. Today it was in stock, so I bought a pack of 36 rolls of Scott-branded TP.

I also saw a whole lot of people buying paper toweling, and they got plenty in stock, so I’m not so worried about that.

I will admit to fortuitous timing on my TP purchases. When the first shortage hit I had bought Costco TP in the previous few weeks, so it lasted until they had more in stock, and again, I have a good supply this time around.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:38:00am

re: #144 PhillyPretzel

I also have some paper towels.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:38:14am

re: #137 thedopefishlives

People are STUPID.

I did my hoarding (one extra large package) a couple of months ago. Need to hit the stores again around January.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:38:20am

And fresh out of the oven. nom, nom, nom.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:39:13am

re: #168 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I did my hoarding (one extra large package) a couple of months ago. Need to hit the stores again around January.

I just picked up a package from Amazon before the Thanksgiving trip. If I remember correctly, it should last my family and I for around 2 months.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:39:20am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

The Hunt for Red October

One helluva movie, damn near perfection across the board.

This film broke the mold for Tom Clancy movies - and they have never been able to paste it back together.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:39:42am

re: #169 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And fresh out of the oven. nom, nom, nom.

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Tonight’s dinner is going to be an oven-roasted pork butt with mashed potatoes and mac and cheese. Yes, I like starch, why do you ask?

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calochortus  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:40:21am

re: #167 PhillyPretzel

I also have some paper towels.

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So you do.
I only use a few rolls (3?) per year, so not a deep need here.

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mmmirele  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:41:44am

Back from the church, but going out again in a few minutes. I came home to make a The guy who was putting out the sign for the bilingual (Spanish/English) service was hostile. The sign was on the public sidewalk, so I made a point of blocking it with my fat self. I also had someone take my picture.

I’m currently watching their church service on YouTube, and the pastor is going on about a prophecy he says God gave him two years ago about the Spanish members. *rolls eyes* OH MY. I believe the guy sitting on the platform with the pastor is HOSTILE DUDE.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:44:21am

re: #162 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yesterday my Costco was out of toilet paper. Today it was in stock, so I bought a pack of 36 rolls of Scott-branded TP.

I also saw a whole lot of people buying paper toweling, and they got plenty in stock, so I’m not so worried about that.

The last time I went shopping, I cruised by the paper products aisle, as one does, and it was completely full of paper towels. No TP seen.

So at least there’s a substitute.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:46:21am
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gwangung  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:46:59am

Hm. My take is that there are definitely hiccups in the supply chain in my area, but if you have a watchful eye, you can snag decent amounts of toilet paper, paper towels and disinfectant wipes.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:49:24am

Talking to my father and it appears a probate lawyer is poking his nose around looking for me and the other nieces and nephews of a relative who passed a few years ago but mentioned us all in his will. Hopefully he was as well off as he liked to present himself as being :D but honestly it’s more likely nothing much. It’ll be entertaining to see what happens.

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A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:49:28am

re: #173 calochortus

So you do.
I only use a few rolls (3?) per year, so not a deep need here.

I use cloth towels, so I’m on (I think) my third roll in thirty years. During the Great Toilet Paper shortage, they had a roll of reusable paper towels, which I’d never seen before, so I bought one. I’ll use it when my current roll runs out. If I live that long.

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mmmirele  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:50:21am

re: #174 mmmirele

Oh, it turns out Hostile Dude is “Pastor Jose”, apparently the leader of a Spanish-speaking congregation which is apparently merging or something.

Dammit, Eric Jones is now going on about “the wall.” *rolls eyes* Jesus didn’t tell you to go on about that stuff, Eric.

Going back out…back later.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:51:25am

re: #167 PhillyPretzel

I also have some paper towels.

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I love you but you’re a piker on both counts. 😂 I was going to stop my auto-shipments because we had so much (8 24 packs of TP and 8 12 rolls of paper towels). Hubs was giving me all kinds of shit and I said I’d pare back after the second wave. I flatly refuse to use three phone book to wipe my butt.

Funny story. Last time when everything was scarce I bought some bright red TP from Amazon. I was unaware that it was perfumed. I have a small cabinet in the bathroom that holds about 15 rolls of TP and it’s had 6 rolls of the red stuff for months. Every time I open it, the entire bathroom is perfumed. It’s delightful. Unfortunately, perfumed cooch paper is a non starter. So the occasional butt wipe it is.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:54:09am

The stores in my area never stopped the 2/customer limits (or 1 in some cases) even as the supply chain was reestablished and the hoarding ended. I haven’t seen any serious tissues issues.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:56:52am

re: #179 A hollow voice says,1st round on points. Onward!

I use cloth towels, so I’m on (I think) my third roll in thirty years. During the Great Toilet Paper shortage, they had a roll of reusable paper towels, which I’d never seen before, so I bought one. I’ll use it when my current roll runs out. If I live that long.

I have dogs, some of which have the occasional accident.

One has on purposes regularly. 😠🤬

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 8:59:38am

re: #183 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I have dogs, some of which have the occasional accident.

One has on purposes regularly. 😠🤬

We have two small children, with the same result.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:00:12am

re: #177 gwangung

Hm. My take is that there are definitely hiccups in the supply chain in my area, but if you have a watchful eye, you can snag decent amounts of toilet paper, paper towels and disinfectant wipes.

The toilet paper intended for office buildings and schools comes in enormous rolls, packs of enough for the whole building, and it’s not as soft or scented as the stuff intended for consumers.

The same problem happened with food early on; vegetables, pasta, rice, peanut butter, milk, eggs, etc intended for school or company cafeterias, or busy restaurants, are entirely different packaging than what you’d buy for home. The farms were still growing just as much, it was the packaging companies that had to do pandemic-retooling.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:01:04am

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Tonight’s dinner is going to be an oven-roasted pork butt with mashed potatoes and mac and cheese. Yes, I like starch, why do you ask?

I’ll probably do up a country fried steak, mashed potatoes/gravy and corn. Quick and simple.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:01:43am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:02:02am

re: #186 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I’ll probably do up a country fried steak, mashed potatoes/gravy and corn. Quick and simple.

Our “Christmas” dinner, which my mom cooked on the day after Thanksgiving (!), was a ham loaf, mac and cheese, and corn pudding. There’s just no substitute for the classics sometimes.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:04:26am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:08:45am
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Teukka  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:08:52am

re: #189 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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“vexatious litigant: /n./ An irredeemable pest in the eyes of the court.”

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:12:54am

re: #188 thedopefishlives

Our “Christmas” dinner, which my mom cooked on the day after Thanksgiving (!), was a ham loaf, mac and cheese, and corn pudding. There’s just no substitute for the classics sometimes.

I’ll probably do our traditional dinner as well. Hickory smoked boneless ham, mashed potatoes/stuffing/gravy veggie, and dinner rolls. We don’t do deserts.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:14:35am

re: #192 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I’ll probably do our traditional dinner as well. Hickory smoked boneless ham, mashed potatoes/stuffing/gravy veggie, and dinner rolls. We don’t do deserts.

We had TWO vinegar pies because my mom was unhappy with the first one. (The second one turned out the same. We ate them both anyway.) My sister brought a pumpkin pie.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:17:23am

It’s funny how Trump thinks Fox News sucks and is against him but he’s always more than happy to take their call.

/

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:26:32am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:27:54am

re: #194 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s funny how Trump thinks Fox News sucks and is against him but he’s always more than happy to take their call.

/

It’s the P.T. Barnum school of grifting: I don’t care what you say about me, just spell my name right give me air time.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:28:25am

Security Experts Fear State Secrets Won’t Be Safe With Indebted Donald Trump

Security experts are raising concerns about the safety of state secrets accessible to Donald Trump, particularly as massive debts on his businesses come due.

Trump already has access to secrets that could be devastating to the U.S. if they were leaked or sold. In addition, presidents typically continue to be briefed on national security in certain circumstances even after they leave office, NBC News reports.

Trump has proven to be dangerously reckless with intelligence and confoundingly supportive of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

But classified information could also now represent a “profit center” to the heavily indebted president, according to NBC. The New York Times recently reported that Trump owes $421 million in business debt that he has personally guaranteed. Forbes investigations have indicated Trump could owe closer to $1 billion.

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BigPapa  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:28:38am

I had to look up pettifogger. Won’t worry, I won’t call any of you one. As long as you don’t deserve it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:30:02am

re: #197 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

In addition, presidents typically continue to be briefed on national security in certain circumstances even after they leave office

Well, shit.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:33:09am

re: #8 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

re: #11 William Lewis

Straight razors are … interesting… as you’re discovering. I prefer, when I shave, a nice safety razor with good platinum coated blades :D These days I have a beard trimmer instead.

I use a safety razor for my dailybiweekly shave. I have a vintage straight razor that I’ve used once or twice but no strope, so I can’t keep it sufficiently sharp. It really is amazing how much of a better shave I get doing it the old fashioned way compared to the modern multi blade products

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:33:32am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

In addition, presidents typically continue to be briefed on national security in certain circumstances even after they leave office

Well, shit.

I doubt that the orange anus will continue to receive any Intel of relevance.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:34:29am

re: #201 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I doubt that the orange anus will continue to receive any Intel of relevance.

I don’t see it either. Not under Biden. Hopefully trump will be long gone before another Republican is elected.

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John Hughes  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:35:06am

re: #146 Dr Lizardo

COVID-19 is, to the best of my knowledge, not known to attack the bunghole.

Sorry, you’re wrong. Digestive upsets are a known symptom.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:35:20am

re: #201 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I doubt that the orange anus will continue to receive any Intel of relevance.

I might almost be tempted to give him some fake briefings and see if he leaks anything.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:38:22am

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

In addition, presidents typically continue to be briefed on national security in certain circumstances even after they leave office

Well, shit.

Only if they have to be, and he won’t have to be.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:39:34am

re: #203 John Hughes

Sorry, you’re wrong. Digestive upsets are a known symptom.

So I’ve read, but I don’t think that necessitates buying a year’s worth of toilet paper in one go.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:40:26am

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I might almost be tempted to give him some fake briefings and see if he leaks anything.

That’d be a good idea. It’d be immediately clear if he sold any info for cash.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:42:51am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

That’d be a good idea. It’d be immediately clear if he sold any info for cash.

Well it would be interesting to see if he can fly once they found out he sold them bad intel.

//// X1/2

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:47:25am

re: #176 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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And Joe’s pick up a few hundred more votes because of it.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:47:59am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

So I’ve read, but I don’t think that necessitates buying a year’s worth of toilet paper in one go.

There’s really no reason for that. A box like I get from Amazon has 4 6-packs in it - 24 rolls total. It will last my 4-person family for 1.5-2 months at normal usage. If we all came down with a bad case of the runs, we might - MIGHT - go through half a pack at once. TL:DR; panic buying is not justified by the potential for digestive dysfunction. A typical stock is enough to manage.

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John Hughes  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:48:18am

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Tonight’s dinner is going to be an oven-roasted pork butt with mashed potatoes and mac and cheese. Yes, I like starch, why do you ask?

Tchep blanc here ( thiébou dieune bou wékh) if you prefer.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:49:44am

re: #188 thedopefishlives

Our “Christmas” dinner, which my mom cooked on the day after Thanksgiving (!), was a ham loaf, mac and cheese, and corn pudding. There’s just no substitute for the classics sometimes.

We’re having Chinese takeout, as per tradition.

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sagehen  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:49:58am

re: #201 Colère Tueur de Lapin

I doubt that the orange anus will continue to receive any Intel of relevance.

He could be a useful conduit of disinformation…

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:51:24am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:51:35am

re: #212 The Pie Overlord!

We’re having Chinese takeout, as per tradition.

I dunno what we’re going to do at home alone this year. There is no chance we are meeting up with any of Mrs. Fish’s family; her parents are old and vulnerable, the rest of her family either is or has recently been sick with the disease. I want nothing to do with that pack of plague rats. One of them, apparently, went around telling people that their family had the cold, but admitted to my parents-in-law that they had tested positive.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:51:47am

re: #213 sagehen

That might work with certain countries. North Korea for example.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:53:32am

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? Gah.

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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:54:06am

re: #217 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? Gah.

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They don’t care about the dead or dying; it’s not them. They just want their freedumbs.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:54:52am

Did Trump blurt out info about a secret nuclear weapons program?

It’s difficult to choose the single most astonishing thing Donald Trump told the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, but among my personal favorites was the president’s willingness to boast about a secret nuclear weapons program.

In the midst of reflecting upon how close the United States had come in 2017 to war with North Korea, Trump revealed: “I have built a nuclear — a weapons system that nobody’s ever had in this country before. We have stuff that you haven’t even seen or heard about. We have stuff that Putin and Xi have never heard about before. There’s nobody — what we have is incredible.”

The Post’s article on this added that Woodward’s sources “later confirmed that the U.S. military had a secret new weapons system, but they would not provide details, and that the people were surprised Trump had disclosed it.”

Trump’s disregard for security, whether carelessness or something more sinister, extends well beyond military secrets (though that alone is terrifying). I think it is the reason federal law enforcement cannot fully or effectively investigate foreign influence, money laundering, and a variety of other offenses in which Trump and the GOP might have an interest. He can tip off the targets of these investigations and even betray confidential sources. Has this happened? Who knows but it is easy to see that an FBI or SEC agent would not take the risk, and potential sources definitely would not.

One of my best friends, someone I have known since about 1980, had been in the Air Force in the ’60s. He was always a little cagey about what he did for them. I knew that he had been in Turkey, and at SAC headquarters at Offutt, but not his specific job. Interestingly he never went to Vietnam or anywhere else in East Asia. He was a lefty and anti-war activist in civilian life but he also believed that people who reveal military secrets should be thrown in prison till they rot. It was only in the 21st century, decades after the fact, that he felt he could reveal what he did, since the program had finally been de-classified. He was a satellite image analyst, at a time when satellite reconnaissance was one of the most closely guarded secrets in the world. It was common knowledge that such a thing existed but no one outside the IC had any idea just what the capability was, and wasn’t, and they wanted to keep it that way.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:55:22am
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thedopefishlives  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:56:35am

re: #217 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I think, and we’ve seen this with other polls, there’s also an element of not knowing what she’s actually (not) doing. Like the people who believe that Trump supports wearing masks - he doesn’t, those of us who pay attention to him know that, but his average everyday follower doesn’t actually listen to what he says specifically and couldn’t tell you what he does or doesn’t believe if asked. I imagine the same is likely true of Noem and South Dakotans.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:58:46am

re: #209 Eventual Carrion

And Joe’s pick up a few hundred more votes because of it.

Those extra 219 votes the recounts picked up for Joe and Kamala in WI are probably irrelevant, though. Unless the Trumpsters have finally decided to face reality and give up (unlikely, with all that unrealized grift floating around), it’s far more likely that the recount was just a formality to get out of the way before they go (yet again) to challenge the results and/or certification in (yet another) court, on whatever specious bullshit grounds Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell can defecate out.
Of course, they are taking the chance that the courts in whatever Circuit Wisconsin is in will treat the Trump campaign’s claims any better/differently than the ones in PA, but what have they got to lose (besides the case)? It’s not their money, and it’s not like they presently have much else to do with their time.

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KGxvi  Nov 29, 2020 • 9:59:50am

re: #217 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Politicians approval rating is basically “they are doing what I want them to do”. In New Zealand the will of the people was “stop the virus” so support for a national quarantine made sense. In South Dakota the will of the people is apparently cartmanesque “I do what I want”, so the Governor saying “fuck it do what you want” makes sense

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2020 • 10:03:09am

re: #220 The Pie Overlord!

strip clubs? Why are those open?

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2020 • 10:05:31am

re: #217 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? Gah.

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The dead don’t answer polls.

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mmmirele  Nov 29, 2020 • 10:19:59am

The people at Evident Life Church are seriously hostile. I had one woman tell me, as she was driving out, “Nobody cares, bitch.” Pastor Jose said I was “hateful” several times. I told him I was amused. I also told him that their hostility was worse than Scientology’s. Thinking about it, maybe they’re *tied*. But seriously, the hostility was bad. Other churches have sent people out to talk to me nicely, offer me water, etc.

That said, I did have a nice chat with a guy wearing an El Salvador jacket and a mask (unlike many of the other attendees). This was his first time at the church. He agreed with my revised sign and I warned him that the congregation is all in on Trump conspiracy theories. I pointed him to the church’s YouTube channel so that he wouldn’t think I was talking nonsense. So that was my one good deed of the day.

(The other side said “Pastor Eric Jones: The Constitution TRUMPS your False Prophets!” but you’ve seen that before.)

Next week I’ll make a point of having one sign in español. My Spanish is lousy but it’s good enough to come up with a pithy sentence about how their pastor is a false prophet. Apparently the people think Eric Jones is a prophet of some sort. So yeah, I’m going to amp it up just a tad.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 29, 2020 • 10:32:46am

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And here comes this zombie lie again.

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Would he understand better if somebody else, with auto insurance from the same company as his, asked why they should pay for his car accident?
Probably not. If they ever admit that they know how insurance works, they would lose one of their emotional appeals to selfishness. Then all they would have left are ridiculous lies about how, and how well, Canadian and European healthcare works.

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jeffreyw  Nov 29, 2020 • 10:40:09am

re: #181 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Unfortunately, perfumed cooch paper is a non starter. So the occasional butt wipe it is

Was there a poll?

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cat-tikvah  Nov 29, 2020 • 1:23:32pm

re: #220 The Pie Overlord!

Who wants to tell him Hanukkah, while symbolically profound, is a minor holiday…..the big holidays for us were over weeks ago.


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