A Picture of the End of a War

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The US war in Afghanistan is officially finished tonight. US Central Command tweeted the photo above, of the last US soldier boarding a plane to leave Kabul, and while it’s undeniably unsettling, it also somehow seems fitting.

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b.d. (War Is Over! Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:42:44pm

And he ain’t looking back.

Thank God that the war is over.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:46:33pm
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darthstar  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:48:10pm

re: #1 b.d. (Cough Louder Conservatives!)

And he ain’t looking back.

Thank God that the war is over.

Well, everything behind him was destroyeddemilitarized moments later.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:49:04pm

As the war ends, the hot takes continue unabated:

“The United States was not able to achieve its mission in Afghanistan,” he explained. “The mission in Afghanistan was to defeat the Taliban and establish a democratic government that could command the legitimacy of the Afghan people and control the country.”

Yeah, no, that’s not the mission that I and millions of my fellow Americans got told was why we were sending tens of thousands of our own to fight. We were told that the “bad guys” who’d orchestrated 9/11 were hiding there and our mission was to go over there, find them, and “bring them to justice.”

We accomplished that mission in 2011, 10 years after we had an opportunity at Tora Bora and pissed it away.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:49:53pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:50:10pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:52:37pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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Continuing the theme that Afghanistan is my generation’s Vietnam, we’re now watching the media beginning the mantra that will continue for decades: “If only we’d stayed longer, maybe we could have won!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:54:06pm

Endless numbers of people whinging about dogs left behind in that thread.

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b.d. (War Is Over! Cough Louder Conservatives!)  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:54:19pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

Continuing the theme that Afghanistan is my generation’s Vietnam, we’re now watching the media beginning the mantra that will continue for decades: “If only we’d stayed longer, maybe we could have won!”

I think if we stayed another 20 years then the Iraqi Army would have lasted a whole week when we left.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:55:41pm

So can we maybe now, oh, I don’t know, focus on the fucking pandemic that’s mutating and killing a lot of people and damaging others? Maybe?

We have got to do something about our stupid media, none of this would be happening without their help. Not to this degree. Corporate lobbying in all levels of government and truly shitty “news” media is how we got here. It won’t get better without some serious housecleaning.

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:57:00pm

I am reminded of this:

There Are Only 22 Countries in the World That the British Haven’t Invaded

Of the almost 200 current member states (and one observer state) of the United Nations, the British have, at some point in history, invaded and established a military presence in 171 of them.

This is what British historian Stuart Laycock learned after his son asked him how many countries Britain had invaded. He dug into the history of almost 200 nations and found only 22 that the Brits hadn’t marched into. He talks about each one in All the Countries We’ve Ever Invaded: And the Few We Never Got Round To, released in 2012.

There’s a little wiggle room to make some arguments with Laycock’s number. For example, he lists the countries based on their current geographic borders and names, and some of the invasions occurred when one or both of those things were different. Some of them even happened before the formation of the British state. “Invasion” is defined pretty broadly, too, and includes raids or intrusions into a territory by British pirates, privateers or armed explorers operating with approval of the Crown. If you don’t quibble with his methodology, though, Britain has an impressive 88 percent world domination rate.

mentalfloss.com

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:58:03pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

You could start to suspect that our media is annoyed at losing this carnival and having to focus on domestic policy.

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William Lewis  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:58:32pm

The last US troops out of the Vietnam war were those sent after the SS Mayaguez in May 1975. At the end of that clusterfuck Lance Corporal Joseph N. Hargrove, Private First Class Gary L. Hall, and Private Danny G. Marshall were left on the beach and eventually executed by the Khmer Rouge. Theirs are the last three names on the Wall.

I am pretty damn sure that Major General Chris Donahue didn’t leave any men behind him.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 5:59:37pm

They have their white woman saviour who was betrayed by Centcom, and conservatives are all running with it.

twitter.com

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:00:55pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:01:13pm

re: #10 A Mom Anon

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:01:37pm

re: #14 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:04:38pm

Ambled into the record store in Minturn for the first time today. Cramped little place on the lower level of the dude’s house, I think. Got this and this. Will definitely be going back.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:04:58pm

re: #12 jaunte

You could start to suspect that our media is annoyed at losing this carnival and having to focus on domestic policy.

The media went in big from the get-go that the “failure” was going to be that tens of thousands were “left behind” by the hasty withdrawal. They were in a competition for days about who could write the cringiest headlines about “betrayal” and “abandoned Americans.” And then the evacuations began to pick up and started numbering in the tens of thousands, at which point they migrated to “ZOMG! WE’RE NOT STAYING PAST THE DEADLINE!” And now it’s a competition to see who can come up with the most ridiculous “This is the biggest foreign policy failure EVAH!”

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:06:23pm

“Republican Math” also accounts for the abuse of healthcare workers required to care for the ideologically unvaccinated.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:07:36pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:08:02pm

re: #6 Charles Johnson

As best as I can tell, we’re headed towards becoming a one-party fascist theocratic state after 2024, which means we’ll be annexing the Sudetenland Mexico as soon as possible.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:08:15pm

re: #16 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:10:46pm

re: #22 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As best as I can tell, we’re headed towards becoming a one-party fascist theocratic state after 2024, which means we’ll be annexing the Sudetenland Mexico as soon as possible.

Leave Mexico alone. I love going there. Annexing it would ruin it.

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:11:33pm

re: #11 ckkatz

I am reminded of this:

mentalfloss.com

If you don’t quibble with his methodology, though, Britain has an impressive 88 percent world domination rate.

If we put our minds to it, we can beat that. Let’s get to it, American exceptionalism!!

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ckkatz  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:11:54pm

It seems to me that the media loved having all of the content that tfg provided them, Since he finally f@cked off and we now have a highly competent, low key guy instead, the media are looking at a massive downsizing. To stay employed they need to crawl to the top of the heap. And the results are not pretty.

It’s been interesting watching even MSNBC personalities search desperately for new niches. And they still have a lot of content creation from Desantis, Abbot, Kemp etc.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:12:09pm

The population of my county is 55,731. The equivalent of the population of my county times eleven and some change, the number of covid fatalities in the United States. 11 of my county…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:12:31pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:12:51pm

re: #22 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As best as I can tell, we’re headed towards becoming a one-party fascist theocratic state after 2024, which means we’ll be annexing the Sudetenland Mexico as soon as possible.

We had plenty of filibusters who tried, and one who succeeded in overthrowing Nicaragua’s government, installing himself as dictator, and re-implementing slavery.

He was ousted two years later by a coalition of Central American nations.

en.wikipedia.org

He was evacuated by the US Navy when he was ousted from power. He went back and tried again but was captured by the United Kingdom, turned over to Honduras, and executed (to great howls of American conservative slavers).

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JOE 🥓  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:14:45pm

re: #22 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

As best as I can tell, we’re headed towards becoming a one-party fascist theocratic state after 2024, which means we’ll be annexing the Sudetenland Mexico as soon as possible.

Mexico?

Nope. Republicans will demand to annex Canada’s Alabama—Alberta.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:15:52pm

niterz, lizardz!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:17:01pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I got which country who captured William Walker wrong. It was the United Kingdom, not El Salvador. Fixed above.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:17:27pm

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Let FloriDUMB sink into the ocean.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:20:56pm

re: #33 JOE 🥓

Let FloriDUMB sink into the ocean.

Just wait.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:27:15pm

re: #23 A Mom Anon

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:27:20pm

re: #34 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Just wait.

Yeah, it’s just a matter of time. In another decade they will be building sea walls along what used to be beaches.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:27:32pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:28:40pm

re: #36 darthstar

I almost retired at 45’ above sea level, but I think things are going to move faster than we imagine.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:28:55pm

re: #33 JOE 🥓

Let FloriDUMB sink into the ocean.

Nope. No one has organised this kind of derp in my school district, but if they do, I’ll be there to oppose it. I’m a taxpayer in my school district.

Better yet, figure out a way to keep out people who do not live in the school district, and start arresting feral conservatives when they get violent.

When our town first started the water project to install RO units in town, we had people who got violent with the village board. When I moved here, we still had an armed sheriff’s deputy at the meetings to keep peace.

When conservatives don’t get their way they get violent. In the case of the anti-vaccine movement starting with the first vaccine for smallpox, they have been violent every time there was any sort of public health measure, and almost always claiming it was God’s will or politicians were playing God or God will protect them.

What we’re seeing at these meetings has been seen in every mandatory vaccination programme, including polio.

(Polio is often held up as millions of grateful parents lining their children up as soon as they could, but there were violent conservative outbreaks then as well, particularly after the Cutter Incident.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:35:18pm

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:36:42pm

Why are GOP insurrectionists like Madison whatshisname and Boebert and others talking about or insinuating the need for violence? The commission is asking telecom companies to preserve their phone records to be submitted for investigation. They’re scared.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:37:12pm

re: #38 jaunte

I almost retired at 45’ above sea level, but I think things are going to move faster than we imagine.

I’m at 45’ myself. I’ve seen some considerable erosion along the beach and highway 1 - in fact five years ago they had to reinforce the shore along surfer beach. Some of that reinforcement has washed away, and the steps the put down to the beach are already listing as the concrete base at the bottom has shifted.
Stairs with steps going down to sand (note no concrete foundation) - Feb 8, 2021

Steps just about eight months later. (Jul 21, 2021)

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:37:42pm

re: #29 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We had plenty of filibusters who tried, and one who succeeded in overthrowing Nicaragua’s government, installing himself as dictator, and re-implementing slavery.

He was ousted two years later by a coalition of Central American nations.

en.wikipedia.org

He was evacuated by the US Navy when he was ousted from power. He went back and tried again but was captured by El Salvador and executed (to great howls of American conservative slavers).

Thomas Saltus Lubbock, for whom the city and county of Lubbock, Texas are named, was a “very worthy and zealous” member of a secret society called the Knights of the Golden Circle. Their plan was to conquer ALL the lands around the Caribbean and turn them into feudal slave states. This would have required re-instituting slavery, since all the target countries had abolished it. Rendered moot by the Civil War, the knights bequeathed some of their symbolism and many of their members to the Ku Klux Klan.

Lubbock had participated in the filibustering Santa Fe expedition of 1841, when a force of Texians from the then-independent Republic of Texas attempted to conquer New Mexico. They were captured outside Santa Fe and sent to jail in Mexico City. Lubbock escaped and returned to Texas.

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darthstar  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:41:40pm

re: #42 darthstar

There is some natural shift. Yesterday when my wife and I went surfing the sand came up to just below the bottom concrete step.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:42:32pm

re: #37 jaunte

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I still remember that pundit circle jerk during the 2018 SOTUA, that glimmering moment when they all wanted so badly to believe that Donny was finally putting aside the animosity and bravado to “reach across the aisle.”

And then he declared Dems “traitors” for not clapping for him and followed that up by declaring that he’d love a shutdown to happen over immigration.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:42:42pm

My Name Is Giovanni Giorgio

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:47:45pm

The first year of the Trump presidency was spent by the press trying to convince Americans that it hadn’t been a massive mistake and that even if he was a ginormous asshole the people around him were competent folk who would curb his worst impulses.

And then year two came, they realized nobody was buying that shit anymore, and they just started meeting criticism with “that’s just Trump being Trump.”

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:54:06pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

We don’t have all over the choices in that matter. What if China invades Taiwan? What if North Korea bombs Seoul? What if Russia sends troops into Ukraine?

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Charles Johnson  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:54:29pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:56:17pm
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Amory Blaine  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:57:52pm

I don’t think sea walls will help Florida. Won’t the water seep right in from the ground?

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:57:59pm

“The Oxford English Dictionary lists Afghanistanism as a U.S. colloquialism; the first written citation it provides is from 1948.”
en.wikipedia.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:58:50pm

re: #50 jaunte

Definition of Afghanistanism

: the practice (as by a journalist) of concentrating on problems in distant parts of the world while ignoring controversial local issues

First Known Use of Afghanistanism

1943, in the meaning defined above
History and Etymology for Afghanistanism

Afghanistan + -ism; from the remoteness of Afghanistan

merriam-webster.com

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 6:59:54pm

We will never be out of Afghanistanism.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:00:49pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:01:52pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:03:36pm
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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:03:54pm

re: #50 jaunte

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And that’s really how it has worked for the past 2 decades: When a Repub was in office then the August period would be spent commenting on how we’re “winning” the war in Afghanistan/Iraq, while a Dem would spend August getting bombarded with stories about how we’re “losing the peace” in Afghanistan/Iraq. But the theme was always the same: Domestic issues could wait, we needed to focus on foreign adventurism.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:04:36pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:05:13pm

I have a friend whose family has a cabin in South Tahoe. They’re pretty sure it’s gone. ☹️

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:08:19pm

re: #59 DodgerFan1988

Schrodinger’s Afghans:

1) Why aren’t we doing more to save those who worked with us, and women and girls who will be oppressed.

2) Why are we letting them into the United States? They’ll all vote for Democrats!

(On the last, Afghans are socially-conservative. Another natural constituency for conservatives they will drive away because of their racist and religious bigotry.)

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:10:45pm

re: #59 DodgerFan1988

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Im pretty sure the first of those Afghans that will be allowed to vote will be their children born here.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:11:05pm

re: #61 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And this is an actual “news” segment.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:15:35pm

A coworker’s husband posted “ASHLI BABBIT, SAY HER NAME!” to his FB. I see this dude with some regularity at the ski area, so he’s gonna hear from me. “Nope. She’s a terrorist.” I reply. He comes back with some shit, says she was an unarmed peaceful protester - and this is what set me off - and said “she’s done more with her life than you.” I shared the NYT video of the insurrection, and called him a shithead. He unfriended me sometime today.

He got considerable pushback, not one person that commented supported him, with a few people in the comments cutting ties with him altogether.

Sometimes you think you know a guy. Ought to be interesting when I see him up at the ski area.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:16:00pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:20:15pm

Unfortunately Charles, we are fighting a war right now. This one just happens to be within our own neighborhoods.

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:22:50pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:24:39pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

Ashli Babbitt say-her-name was a propagandized criminal who died foolish.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:26:07pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:27:29pm
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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:33:58pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:35:00pm

Trolling conservatives at a school board meeting on Long Island (2:20)

Note the points at which they clap.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:38:00pm

re: #71 Punish Domestic Terrorists

The Southern Poverty Law Center collects articles on Manuel Riog-Franzia which skirt the line of fascism or racism.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:41:02pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:41:37pm

My family’s scorecard for 20 years of war-enriched contractors:
Two 100% disabled Army veterans.
One 20 year Air Force mechanic/weapons specialist with PTSD.
One (recovering) alcoholic.
One divorce.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:42:45pm
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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:44:50pm

Anecdotal of course, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a common story.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:45:34pm

..

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jaunte  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:45:48pm

In other words, the hidden social costs of the military-industrial complex are unsustainable.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:49:45pm

I promise I will stop after this one:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:50:30pm

re: #75 jaunte

I’m sorry so many in your family have suffered so much. [[[Jaunte]]]

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:51:08pm

*exhales*

Today I literally begged a contractor I know to the get vaccine. He’s scared shitless and his GP is apparently some old dude who’s also scared and uncertain. So I gave it my earnest best shot and then doubled down when he told me he was expecting his third kid.

I’m…burnt out right now because I’m dialectically furiously angry and incredibly sad. Over the weekend I learned someone that cared for me as a child died of COVID in April, and someone my mom depends on is sick right now with maybe-Delta but hasn’t been tested.

What I hate is that it isn’t that shit rolls downhill…it’s that people are making shit roll downhill.

Same applies to Afghanistan. We’re watching test runs of narratives that attribute blame to somebody other than the incredibly cozy set of politicians, generals, defense contractors, and media hacks that hang out together. Suddenly the blame is some kind of collective failure of America rather than mistakes and fuck-ups by the dudes who made decisions that the rest of us weren’t privy to.

Jesus, I’m tired.

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:51:32pm

Someone on Facebook was blaming Biden for thousands of deaths in Afghanistan and Hillary for the four in Benghazi. I got onto her for still believing the debunked crap about Benghazi, and mentioned that not only was our current situation in Afghanistan based on Trump’s decisions, but that we weren’t much use in a country that could collapse as easy as the government did, and that people who are only paying attention the country for the last two weeks don’t really have enough understanding to form a worthwhile opinion.

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:55:45pm

Happy Birthday Molly Ivins! You’d Hate 2021, But Oh My, You’d Have Plenty To Say

wonkette.com

Afghanistan is to nation-building what Afghanistan is to war — pretty much the last place on earth you’d choose, if you had any choice at all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 30, 2021 • 7:58:24pm

Okay. (3:30)

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:01:49pm

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

He’s scared shitless and his GP is apparently some old dude who’s also scared and uncertain.

Assuming this guy isn’t an anti-vaxxer in general or a raging wingnut pretending to be scared of not having FreeDUMB, and is honestly afraid of *something*, what the fuck is he afraid of?

Seriously, I don’t get these people. People have been taking these shots for well over a year if you count the trials. No one has died from the mRNA ones, and a couple of people out of *millions* got blood clots from the Adenovirus ones. Seriously WTF does he think is going to happen that hasn’t happened yet? Blood clots that wait 2+ years to show up? Sterility? Cancer? Fucking Autism? What?

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retired cynic  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:07:45pm

re: #86 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Assuming this guy isn’t an anti-vaxxer in general or a raging wingnut pretending to be scared of not having FreeDUMB, and is honestly afraid of *something*, what the fuck is he afraid of?

Seriously, I don’t get these people. People have been taking these shots for well over a year if you count the trials. No one has died from the mRNA ones, and a couple of people out of *millions* got blood clots from the Adenovirus ones. Seriously WTF does he think is going to happen that hasn’t happened yet? Blood clots that wait 2+ years to show up? Sterility? Cancer? Fucking Autism? What?

There are all sorts of stories circulating around here of people who have dropped dead just after taking the vaccines. And some people believe them. It breaks my heart.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:08:49pm

re: #75 jaunte

My family’s scorecard for 20 years of war-enriched contractors:
Two 100% disabled Army veterans.
One 20 year Air Force mechanic/weapons specialist with PTSD.
One (recovering) alcoholic.
One divorce.

And all I had was one son who went to fight (INSERT RACIAL SLURS HERE) for Jesus…and he was killed…And for 16 years or 32 FU’s after his death Tom Friedman the originator of the Friedman Unit (F.U.) NEVER apologized for lying us into that war.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:10:07pm

re: #12 jaunte

You could start to suspect that our media is annoyed at losing this carnival and having to focus on domestic policy.

Being a war reporter has had a lot of cache since at least the 1860s.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:10:29pm
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JOE 🥓  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:11:12pm

re: #12 jaunte

You could start to suspect that our media is annoyed at losing this carnival and having to focus on domestic policy.

The DC Press Corpse idea of Domestic Policy—-counting the number of times Major Biden bites a Secret Service agent…

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:17:11pm

re: #48 Belafon

We don’t have all over the choices in that matter. What if China invades Taiwan? What if North Korea bombs Seoul? What if Russia sends troops into Ukraine?

All extremely unlikely, and only one of which will involve U.S. forces.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:18:50pm

re: #86 Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David

Lack of an episteme: they don’t know how to think about how something is true.

Most people I know in my area (even the wealthy educated ones) don’t understand empiricism, let alone the process of scientific publication and thus one paper is as valid as another. What they have in place of that is a set of people they trust and authority figures, but even then they don’t have the critical thinking skills to sort claims by validity.

From there, there’s the narcissistic types that don’t care to know and the anxious types who feel overwhelmed. The former intentionally live in make-believe, but the latter are just decision-locked because they can’t discern a paper that debunks vaccine injuries from a counterfeit that claims they’ll be hurt.

I gave it my best shot…pointed out that vaccines are old science and even RNA vaccines are well understood compared to treatments…but I have no idea what to do. There’s no way in a conversation to teach people enough high school science that they absorb the core concepts and can then apply that thinking…and what you’re up against is bad faith operators who aren’t constrained by honesty, who sex up their stories with miracle cures and lurid instant death.

I dunno. At this point I’m just beaten.

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:19:50pm

re: #30 JOE 🥓

Mexico?

Nope. Republicans will demand to annex Canada’s Alabama—Alberta.

Better not. I know how Canada can beat America in a war.

Won’t happen though. The GQP has already implemented my plan.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:20:19pm

re: #51 Amory Blaine

I don’t think sea walls will help Florida. Won’t the water seep right in from the ground?

The new Hugh Jackman movie isn’t great, but it does some interesting world building, mostly set in a Miami in which people boat around town because it’s partially submerged, while the rich live on high ground behind sea walls.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:22:18pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

And that’s really how it has worked for the past 2 decades: When a Repub was in office then the August period would be spent commenting on how we’re “winning” the war in Afghanistan/Iraq, while a Dem would spend August getting bombarded with stories about how we’re “losing the peace” in Afghanistan/Iraq. But the theme was always the same: Domestic issues could wait, we needed to focus on foreign adventurism.

I’m old enough to remember Dan Rather going to Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation to report on the rebels.

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Mattand  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:25:00pm

re: #82 The Ghost of a Flea

*exhales*

Today I literally begged a contractor I know to the get vaccine. He’s scared shitless and his GP is apparently some old dude who’s also scared and uncertain. So I gave it my earnest best shot and then doubled down when he told me he was expecting his third kid.

Pre-vax, I got into a huge blowout with a woman from an online study group I’m in. She was six months pregnant at the time and in full-on COVID denial. Masks don’t work, big fan of Plandemic, etc. And she was just outside of Vancouver, so it’s not like she was in a sparsely populated area of Canada.

The baby was born healthy, so they dodged a bullet there, but I’m assuming she’s anti-vax at this point. I genuinely worry for the baby’s health, given her past views.

I’m torn between feeling sorry for your contractor’s family and just wanting to yell at him for being a fucking idiot. And, yeah, I know, that’s not the way to change minds, but dude sounds like a lost cause. It doesn’t help that it sounds like he knows he’s wrong and knows his doctor is wrong, but the fear of being seen as a bad conservative is more important to him than his kids’ health.

But, yeah, it’s exhausting to realize that basically the entire South and Midwest of this country, with limited exceptions, are literally like “I’d rather die than take a vaccine that prevents my death, saves others, and keeps my local healthcare system from collapsing.”

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:28:37pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

Make sure he keeps his hands in sight at all times, and makes no sudden moves.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:29:39pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trolling conservatives at a school board meeting on Long Island (2:20)

Note the points at which they clap.

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gocart mozart  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:30:46pm

Neil Young - Sugar Mountain

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:35:01pm

I’ve actually been on top of an Aspen mountain. The skiing is pretty fun.

Instagram

Highland Bowl was all time today.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:36:27pm

Is there anything better than Stuart’s autochrome restorations? There might be.

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:36:31pm

Well, school started off with a BANG here in my county:

6,800 Horry Schools students are quarantined less than two weeks after classes start

Around 15% of Horry County Schools (HCS) student body is in quarantine less than two weeks since the start of classes during an intense surge in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations in the area…The district has a total enrollment of around 45,000 students.

The district also reported 628 active cases in students, and 51 current staff cases. There are also 161 staff members in quarantine…

The most recent numbers come as the district has foregone many of its coronavirus protocols that were in place last year to stem the spread of the virus. The district isn’t requiring masks, as a one-year law in the state budget called a proviso has prohibited schools from doing so. The plexiglass barriers meant to minimize the virus’ spread that cost the district millions have also been removed.

myrtlebeachonline.com?

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bratwurst  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:37:18pm
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sagehen  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:39:12pm

re: #97 The Ghost of a Flea

$10,000 Invested in Defense Stocks When Afghanistan War Began Now Worth Almost $100,000

a $10,000 investment at Google’s IPO (2004) would be worth $136,980 today.
a $10,000 investment at Amazon’s IPO (1997) would be worth $2,224,573 today.
a $10,000 investment at Apple’s IPO (1980) would be worth $2,581,552 today
a $10,000 investment at Microsoft’s IPO (1986) would be worth $6,192,264 today

and that’s not even counting all the dividends they’ve paid in the meantime.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:40:06pm

re: #102 teleskiguy

The day I took these there were once-in-a-lifetime avalanches all over Colorado, including one that slid right behind me that ripped for a couple of miles, took out hundred year old trees, snow traveled up the other side of the valley when it reached the valley floor. This happened two days prior on US 40 on the south side of Berthoud Pass:

Disney March 5, 2019

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No Malarkey!  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:55:35pm

A thread on evacuation.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2021 • 8:56:00pm

Massive Anvil Restoration!

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:04:19pm

2016: Jack (RIP) and Luke at the now defunct Hill of Beans Miramonte, California

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:05:09pm

re: #83 Belafon

I also mentioned that we shouldn’t be involved in a war people aren’t paying attention to. (That was actually my ultimate point, and the I forgot it when I wrote the above stuff.)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:06:10pm

Bullshit on Parade

/

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:11:38pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:13:36pm

Thank fucking dog this war is over. 38m Afghans, and 70-85k Taliban. If the people want their country, they have to take it themselves. We gave you 20 years. No more.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:13:53pm

re: #107 teleskiguy

The day I took these there were once-in-a-lifetime avalanches all over Colorado, including one that slid right behind me that ripped for a couple of miles, took out hundred year old trees, snow traveled up the other side of the valley when it reached the valley floor. This happened two days prior on US 40 on the south side of Berthoud Pass:

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Was that a planned avalanche to relieve a dangerous stress on the hill to keep it open?

Sure looks planned to me, but I’m no snow savant.

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teleskiguy  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:14:41pm

re: #115 austin_blue

That was purposefully set in motion with explosives, yes. The highway was closed.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:24:57pm

Hey pourmecoffee, you’re famous in a group chat among my friends. :) Forgive my random blur swipe on the tail. lol

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:30:12pm

re: #116 teleskiguy

That was purposefully set in motion with explosives, yes. The highway was closed.

Good. I’m going to jab some ‘roids and go lift weights now to increase my mental testosterone.

By the way, why are so many cops willing to ingest vast quantities of steroids which turns their balls into raisins, but absolutely terrified of taking an FDA approved vaccine to keep them from a one on one meeting with The Reaper?

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BeachDem  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:46:20pm

Hmmmm

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:47:25pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:48:21pm
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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:49:51pm

Maybe it’s Manchin and Sinema: “How are we supposed to run as spoilers if they keep accomplishing stuff?”

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:53:13pm

Nothing quite like the calming sound of an erupting volcano to help one fall asleep:

EPIC AERIAL FOOTAGE WITH REAL SOUND! NEW LAVA FLOW AT ICELAND VOLCANO ERUPTION! Aug 28, 2021

..

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Belafon  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:53:19pm
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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 9:53:21pm

re: #119 BeachDem

Hmmmm

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Oops.

I am absolutely sure none of that $380 grand/year was kicked back to Kevin. Well, pretty sure, because that would be wrong. Pretty sure.

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:22:10pm

re: #125 austin_blue

Oops.

I am absolutely sure none of that $380 grand/year was kicked back to Kevin. Well, pretty sure, because that would be wrong. Pretty sure.

so when they say “brother-in-law”, is that his wife’s brother, or his sister’s husband? Not sure it matters, but.

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sagehen  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:34:12pm

re: #119 BeachDem

Hmmmm

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:34:54pm

So after I got interested in how Joe was handling the deal TFG made with the folks that protected Osama Bin Laden when he was hanging in Tora Bora (Hey, Mr. Taliban, tally me bananas!), I asked a simple question on Google, and got this:

cnn.com

April 14.

This was when Biden and his staff announced they had started to put together a hugely complex plan to safely remove American assets, both military and civilian, along with coalition assets. They had started this work much earlier.

Because every NATO member was part of the Afghanistan response by the West. Every single country in NATO sent troops. Every country took casualties.

So every country was needed to be on board for the withdrawal. To identify and prioritize they’re Afghan assets.

So, starting on April 14th, both the US and NATO started calling in their chips, to get their assets out of the war zone.

Biden changed the original withdrawal date from May and changed it to August 31st, with Taliban approval.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:35:47pm

re: #124 Belafon

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Assuming they make it past 4:

5. Get vaccinated…hey, where’s everybody going?

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:37:55pm

re: #126 sagehen

so when they say “brother-in-law”, is that his wife’s brother, or his sister’s husband? Not sure it matters, but.

It *should* matter. It’s theft and/or graft. Anyone involved should be prosecuted.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:38:55pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2021 • 10:41:51pm

re: #114 GlutenFreeJesus

Thank fucking dog this war is over. 38m Afghans, and 70-85k Taliban. If the people want their country, they have to take it themselves. We gave you 20 years. No more.

Hard to take control of your country when there are actors throughout the world —more powerful, wealthier, nations such as Russia, Pakistan, the United States et al — infiltrating guerrillas, arming insurgents, and perhaps invading themselves — all to destabilize your nation or remake it in their image. Too bad we don’t have a department that includes experts on how to run a nation. Of course, if we did, those experts should probably be training Americans on how we should be managing our own nation.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 30, 2021 • 11:03:50pm
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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 11:09:05pm

Late. I’m out. Sleep well.

I dare anyone to tell me how the air evacuation, when the airport was the only facility that was completely controlled by Americans, could have been done any better.

Did the Taliban set up their 20 mm machine guns at both ends of the active runways and shoot down C-130s and C-17s as they took off full of staff and refugees?

No.

Did any of our or coalition aircraft, carrying around 300 passengers each, get shot down?

No.

Did a huge chunk of American citizens and dependents get left behind in Kabul?

Apparently not, the numbers are certainly less than 300, and the Taliban have said they will be protected.

What about the folks that helped the coalition?

This is the sad part of the story. We started to tell Afghans who helped and US citizens and Afghans with green cards to get out if they could in April. And May, and June and July.

The Tornado Warning Siren was screaming across the country. And people made plans or they didn’t. The worst part of the story is the generation of women and girls who’d had a sniff of freedom and are about to become chattel after twenty years of self-determination.

But that’s not our fault, really. We upset the ancient status quo for twenty years and gave the society enough room to grow to educate girls and women. It just didn’t work. It never took hold. The Taliban is just the culture’s default status quo ante.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 30, 2021 • 11:25:58pm

re: #134 austin_blue

…
But that’s not our fault, really. We upset the ancient status quo for twenty years and gave the society enough room to grow to educate girls and women. It just didn’t work. It never took hold. The Taliban is just the culture’s default status quo ante.

The Taliban are not the culture’s default — at least not the urban culture. There were educated women in Afghanistan before the Soviet invasion, not in the rural areas but in the cities. The Taliban arose in opposition to the Soviets — created by Pakistan, armed by the Cia. So again it comes down to others interfering with Afghanistan, leaving it far worse off.

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Targetpractice  Aug 30, 2021 • 11:32:25pm

I’m rereading that statement made upthread:

“The United States was not able to achieve its mission in Afghanistan,” he explained. “The mission in Afghanistan was to defeat the Taliban and establish a democratic government that could command the legitimacy of the Afghan people and control the country.”

And if that is the mission you think we went in to accomplish, rather than catching/killing OBL and the Al-Q leadership, then you have to be truly disassociated from reality to think it was still an achievable goal.

“Defeat the Taliban”? We whiffed on that at Tora Bora and had been chasing our tails ever since. To truly defeat the Taliban would have meant chasing them in to Pakistan or forcing the Pakistani gov’t to hand them over, neither scenario remotely plausible so long as we wanted to avoid escalating things to potential nuclear exchanges. By all indications, the Taliban recovered years ago and has only been growing stronger ever since.

“Establish a democratic government”? Well, we did achieve that…at first. And then we watched as the new government became a den of thievery and graft, culminating in a reelection rife with allegations of ballot-stuffing and intimidation, the result of which was a deeply unpopular president “winning” when his opponent in the run-off decided to drop out at the last second. For those who remember their history, it was our continued support of the South Vietnamese “President” that ultimately bit us in the ass.

“That could command the legitimacy of the Afghan people and control the country”? HA! Once a government loses legitimacy, as it did in the eyes of many when Karzai “won” a second term, it’s difficult to impossible to ever regain it. And every indication is that the only way to maintain control over anything was through money. Want the warlords to stop fucking with you? Pay them off. Want the Army to act like they give a shit? Pay them. When a government and its legitimacy is built upon money, then it will last right up until the cash stops flowing.

The truth is…the game was rigged from the start.

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austin_blue  Aug 30, 2021 • 11:48:43pm

re: #135 Hecuba’s daughter

The Taliban are not the culture’s default — at least not the urban culture. There were educated women in Afghanistan before the Soviet invasion, not in the rural areas but in the cities. The Taliban arose in opposition to the Soviets — created by Pakistan, armed by the Cia. So again it comes down to others interfering with Afghanistan, leaving it far worse off.

That’s not what I meant. The Taliban are the culture’s defender’s of their splinter of Islam, because they have Kabul. Their splinter of Islam means they can treat women like chattel slaves.

That’s all. It’s the reality for anyone who doesn’t have a penis, which makes them inferior to anyone who has one, no matter how small.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 31, 2021 • 12:27:26am

Watching this documentary on the tragedy of Apollo 18.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:11:11am
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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:15:47am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:26:47am

re: #62 Belafon

Im pretty sure the first of those Afghans that will be allowed to vote will be their children born here.

shh! don’t distract the idiots who were too busy playing pocket pool in civics class

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:32:29am

50-some years ago I read a kid’s book about a pioneer girl in Canada. I can’t remember the name of the book, the author, or how things turned out in the end, I’m not even sure if it was a novel or a memoir. But there’s a scene that stuck with me for all these years, vividly, about a brushfire approaching their pioneer town.

All the villagers ran into the river, where they crouched, up to their necks, and waited for the exact right moment to hold their breath and duck underwater, holding their breath for as long as they could, hoping it was long enough for the fire to pass overhead and not kill them all.

They came up to relatively smoky air, they coughed and wheezed, some of them had lung problems from that day forward, but nobody burned to death.

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Jack Burton, Gunner on Death Star of David  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:52:56am

re: #136 Targetpractice

The Game Was Rigged From The Start

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John Hughes  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:58:04am

re: #136 Targetpractice

“Defeat the Taliban”? We whiffed on that at Tora Bora

what?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 1:59:57am

re: #136 Targetpractice

“The United States was not able to achieve its mission in Afghanistan,” he explained. “The mission in Afghanistan was to defeat the Taliban and establish a democratic government that could command the legitimacy of the Afghan people and control the country.”

you cannot do nation building without nationable material

that was simply not present.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 2:19:12am

re: #139 Dread Pirate Ron

Watching this documentary on the tragedy of Apollo 18.

I thought it was a great album

Dig My Grave

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 2:29:54am

Two of the latest three dead of Covid-19 at sorryantivaxxer.com are women in their thirties who lived in small Alabama towns next to each other and who both died yesterday. sorryantivaxxer.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 2:52:44am

re: #148 No Malarkey!

Two of the latest three dead of Covid-19 at sorryantivaxxer.com are women in their thirties who lived in small Alabama towns next to each other and who both died yesterday. sorryantivaxxer.com

the only ones I feel sorry for are the ones they infected on their way to dying to own the liberals.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2021 • 4:13:51am

So apparently the non-attorney who has taken up the cases of those insurrectionists (and Rittenhouse, assumably), isn’t just a non-attorney but one who has felony issues himself (fraud).

How fitting.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 4:16:38am

re: #150 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So apparently the non-attorney who has taken up the cases of those insurrectionists (and Rittenhouse, assumably), isn’t just a non-attorney but one who has felony issues himself (fraud).

How fitting.

In the meantime, their Attorney in Name Only is still God-only-knows where, as his associates say he is not in the hospital intubated for COVID, despite the fact that someone explicitly told the court this last week.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 31, 2021 • 4:21:42am

re: #15 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 31, 2021 • 4:22:56am

re: #150 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

So apparently the non-attorney who has taken up the cases of those insurrectionists (and Rittenhouse, assumably), isn’t just a non-attorney but one who has felony issues himself (fraud).

How fitting.

Linky: rawstory.com

The government also notes that Marshall is currently facing felony charges in two different cases for allegedly defrauding a widow and her late husband. Among other things, Marshall was charged last year with conspiracy, theft, and tampering with public records.”

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:03:02am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

An average of four planes are crashing in Florida on a daily basis as nearly 1,000 souls are dead due to a wholly preventable pandemic and the disastrous handling of the response by GOPers from Trump on down to DeSantis - a Trump protégé.

In other words, more Americans have died in Florida from covid19 in the past week thanks to DeSantis and the GOP failures, than who died in 20 years of conflict in Afghanistan.

The media isn’t particularly interested in this because it’s not nearly as graphic. Yeah, not as graphic. No explosions. No bodies strewn about. No somber photos of servicemembers.

Just the endless parade of bodies shuffled off to refrigerator trucks that had to be ordered to handle hospital overflows across Florida (and other Gulf Coast states). Vaccination rates are below the national average, and even in counties that have vaccination rates above 50%, I’d argue that this is undermined by the sheer number of people in neighboring counties and locales that have not vaccinated to the point that exposures- you need to look at regions, and the South is a cesspool of delta that endangers absolutely everyone.

The GOP will never admit to being wrong on covid, let alone take responsibility for their disastrous policies that enable still more death and misery.

GOP delenda est.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:10:16am

re: #124 Belafon

I’d argue that there’s a 12 step for covid denialism.

1. denial
2. anger
3. don’t be a sheep
4. conspiracies to take our freedom
5. coughing and low grade fever
6. ivermectin
7. hacking up a lung
8. ER visit
9. intubation
10. thoughts and prayers needed
11. 90% admit vaccination might have help; 10% are true believers that this is still a hoax
12. gofundme for funeral/medical expenses

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:19:51am
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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:23:05am

The Afghanistan War In One Sentence

Associated Press: “The United States completed its withdrawal from Afghanistan late Monday, ending America’s longest war and closing a chapter in military history likely to be remembered for colossal failures, unfulfilled promises and a frantic final exit that cost the lives of more than 180 Afghans and 13 U.S. service members, some barely older than the war.”

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jeffreyw  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:28:19am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:28:23am

re: #157 Dangerman

The Afghanistan War In One Sentence

They left out the part about how it’s all Biden’s fault and that he should resign or face impeachment…

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:28:32am

there is no bottom to what this man will do

Florida’s Department of Education announced Monday it has withheld funds from two districts that defied Gov. Ron DeSantis’ (R) order banning mask mandates in schools, Axios reports.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:28:34am

Current mood:

Queensryche - Revolution Calling

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 5:30:30am

re: #158 jeffreyw

Good morning!

Reminds of a joke I heard from my GF from New Jersey (who had some of the best jokes I’ve ever heard/retold)

A woman is standing in the surf, suddenly a large wave hits her and carries away her bathing suit top. Confused, she grabs her breasts and heads out into deeper water.

An old guy sitting on the beach cries out: “Lady, if you’re gonna drown those puppies, I’ll take the one with the pink nose!”

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:13:18am

re: #155 lawhawk

I’d argue that there’s a 12 step for covid denialism.

1. denial
2. anger
3. don’t be a sheep
4. conspiracies to take our freedom
5. coughing and low grade fever
6. ivermectin
7. hacking up a lung
8. ER visit
9. intubation
10. thoughts and prayers needed
11. 90% admit vaccination might have help; 10% are true believers that this is still a hoax
12. gofundme for funeral/medical expenses

you can live in denial for only so long

eventually your body’s gonna do what it’s gonna do and your brain will have to catch up (or not)

(paraphrased from The Closer)

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:30:50am

re: #118 austin_blue

Good. I’m going to jab some ‘roids and go lift weights now to increase my mental testosterone.

By the way, why are so many cops willing to ingest vast quantities of steroids which turns their balls into raisins, but absolutely terrified of taking an FDA approved vaccine to keep them from a one on one meeting with The Reaper?

Tell me about it.

They prance around in the YMCA locker room thinking they are the next Mr. Olympia and you can plainly see the needle tracks in their thighs and butts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:36:46am

re: #164 JOE 🥓

Tell me about it.

They prance around in the YMCA locker room thinking they are the next Mr. Olympia and you can plainly see the needle tracks in their thighs and butts.

I recall reading about Raiders defensive end Lyle Alzado whose fatal cancer was most likely caused by steroid abuse

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:40:21am

re: #164 JOE 🥓

Tell me about it.

They prance around in the YMCA locker room thinking they are the next Mr. Olympia and you can plainly see the needle tracks in their thighs and butts.

They aren’t taking the vaccine because they are members of the Trump cult who will do anything to guarantee that Biden fails. These are the officers who would have supported Trump’s Beer Hall Putsch on January 6; they are akin to those GOP public officials who insist on recounting the November ballots in the hopes of discrediting the election and reinstating their hero; they are willing to sacrifice their lives and those of others around them to achieve their goal.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:42:47am
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:43:27am
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:46:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:47:14am

re: #126 sagehen

so when they say “brother-in-law”, is that his wife’s brother, or his sister’s husband? Not sure it matters, but.

wife’s brother, William Wages

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:47:38am

re: #65 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not seeking the link to what happened although the comments in the thread are mentioning racism.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:47:46am

re: #168 Belafon

How does someone that stupid get elected outside of Alabama?

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:49:36am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:50:42am

re: #167 Belafon

Over 3,000,000 Vietnamese perished in that war as compared to about 100,000 Afghans. For anyone to proclaim how this is “worse” than Vietnam at this early stage is sheer hubris. But given he is British, it is not surprising. They are still suffering from psychological wounds occasioned by their loss of empire and they think that we should keep a “strong upper lip” and let our men and women die in order to preserve our pseudo empire.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:54:08am

re: #167 Belafon

58,000+ Americans died in Vietnam
2,400+ Americans died in Afghanistan over ~20 years.

Nearly 7,000 have died in the US from covid this week thanks to GOP dumbfuckery.
650,000+ Americans have died from covid19 since last January (2020). Since vaccinations became available, nearly all deaths and hospitalizations can and should be considered avoidable deaths. Heck, even before vaccinations were available, masking and social distancing could prevent spread of disease.

GOP refused to do either and this led to further spread and more deaths and disease.

Let’s put the blame squarely where it belongs: on the GOP.

Of course, some fucknut will point to Cuomo and his mishandling of the pandemic. Ummm yeah, let’s delve into that. The state referred all covid deaths to the CDC, so the CDC stats are reflective of all covid deaths. Cuomo massaged the data he provided in his public briefings to exclude deaths that occurred outside of hospital or nursing home settings. That’s just nuts, and wrong. But the CDC had the numbers including deaths at homes and hospices.

That compares to Florida and other states that are purposefully limiting data to the CDC and instead trying to minimize the reporting of the massive death toll caused by GOP malfeasance every step of the way. Florida and the gulf coast/South/central US are the epicenter of a massive outbreak of cases and deaths, and the states’ GOPers are refusing to take any measures that might protect lives of residents. In fact, they’re actively opposing measures that would save lives, like masking or vaccinations, even to the point of promoting junk science and woo (animal dewormer) or experimental treatments that are wishful thinking (regeneron).

They can’t and wont admit being wrong, so they double down on the dumbfuckery. The consequences are entirely predictable.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:56:20am
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:58:55am

Rising cases in children

From Good Morning America.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 6:59:57am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:01:03am
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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:02:14am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:02:22am

re: #165 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall reading about Raiders defensive end Lyle Alzado whose fatal cancer was most likely caused by steroid abuse

Alzado decided to inject himself with HGH (Human Growth Hormone) because he wanted one last shot at the pros. He had to do the Sunday Gladiator thing again. The HGH triggered a cancer in his pituitary gland which metastasized into his brain.

Just another dead jock jerk who wanted to look like The Hulk…and wound up dead because he loved the admiration of Rome.

Another reason why I hate football and haven’t watched it for years.

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lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:02:55am

re: #179 Belafon

As a member of House Moderna, I’m happy to see that. I just wonder if that is also a factor of the time between doses. Moderna was spaced further apart, which means more time to elicit a response.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:04:09am

re: #181 JOE 🥓

Alzado decided to inject himself with HGH (Human Growth Hormone) because he wanted one last shot at the pros. He had to do the Sunday Gladiator thing again. The HGH triggered a cancer in his pituitary gland which metastasized into his brain.

Just another dead jock jerk who wanted to look like The Hulk…and wound up dead because he loved the admiration of Rome.

Another reason why I hate football and haven’t watched it for years.

I think the last time I cared about pro football was the Chicago Bears’ 1972 season…I sometimes watch the Super Bowl but more for social reasons than out of any interest for the sport.

And NCAA College football is just the unpaid NFL minor leagues and just as sick and corrupt.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:04:38am

I want to see more studies, but:

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:06:15am

re: #178 Dopamine Fish

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

These people eat sheep dip.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:06:18am

re: #168 Belafon

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JC1  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:08:08am

WTF? Judge in Ohio orders a hospital to a patient ivermectin for Covid19.

theguardian.com

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:09:43am

re: #187 JC1

WTF? Judge in Ohio orders a hospital to a patient ivermectin for Covid19.

theguardian.com

Admittedly, the family got a quack to write him a prescription, so there’s at least a tenuous legal basis for the ruling. With that said, the hospital is undoubtedly going to ensure they get a liability waiver before administering a drug that is officially and specifically discouraged for use in treating COVID-19 and was prescribed by a physician who does not have the ability to practice medicine at that hospital.

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:10:24am

Joni Mitchell on the story behind Neil Young’s “Sugar Mountain” (and her “The Circle Game”):

“In 1965 I was up in Canada, and there was a friend of mine up there who had just left a rock’n’roll band (…) he had just newly turned 21, and that meant he was no longer allowed into his favourite haunt, which was kind of a teeny-bopper club and once you’re over 21 you couldn’t get back in there anymore; so he was really feeling terrible because his girlfriends and everybody that he wanted to hang out with, his band could still go there, you know, but it’s one of the things that drove him to become a folk singer was that he couldn’t play in this club anymore. ‘Cause he was over the hill. (…) So he wrote this song that was called “Oh to live on sugar mountain” which was a lament for his lost youth. (…) And I thought, God, you know, if we get to 21 and there’s nothing after that, that’s a pretty bleak future, so I wrote a song for him, and for myself just to give me some hope. It’s called The Circle Game.”

en.wikipedia.org

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Nojay UK  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:10:29am

re: #174 Hecuba’s daughter

Over 3,000,000 Vietnamese perished in that war as compared to about 100,000 Afghans. For anyone to proclaim how this is “worse” than Vietnam at this early stage is sheer hubris. But given he is British, it is not surprising. They are still suffering from psychological wounds occasioned by their loss of empire and they think that we should keep a “strong upper lip” and let our men and women die in order to preserve our pseudo empire.

Why are Americans so obsessed with the British Empire, something that hasn’t existed for over fifty years? It’s a bit of a puzzle for me, a Brit who is actually old enough to remember as a child the closing days of the Empire and the gradual removal of administrative and military forces from one colony after another as they were handed back to the local inhabitants. Here in the UK today the Empire is hoary old history, taught for a semester in school along with the Romans and Vikings but for some reason it occupies mindspace in the strangest places.

The poster of the original BBC article is a pontificating prat of course but it’s August, a quiet time for newsrooms and anything can be inflated beyond its actual importance. It’s not like the US is giving up, say, South Korea or Okinawa or Diego Garcia or Hawaii or even Guantanamo Bay, it’s just pulling out of a country it’s spent twenty years propping up along with its NATO allies.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:11:48am

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

Vaccine is elitist Dr. Fauci Big Pharma-Soros poison, while Invermectin is good ol’ Horse Doctor medicine, something they feel they can trust.

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JC1  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:12:57am

re: #182 lawhawk

As a member of House Moderna, I’m happy to see that. I just wonder if that is also a factor of the time between doses. Moderna was spaced further apart, which means more time to elicit a response.

I think that the Moderna shot was a higher dose as well.

Edit: Pfizer is 30 micrograms per dose, Moderna is 100 micrograms per dose. 3.3x more.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:13:41am

re: #184 Belafon

I want to see more studies, but:

This was on local Chicago news yesterday. NWU is dedicating a lot of resources to study of the virus.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:14:29am

re: #190 Nojay UK

Six counties are under John Bull’s tyranny.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:15:33am

re: #178 Dopamine Fish

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

I got relatives who INSIST that there is no such thing as Covid. They believe the bullshit on Facebook that their Pulpit Pimp Pastors recite about Fauci is killing people in hospitals. Oh and the “vaccine” deliberately infects you plus puts nanobots in your brain so Bill Gates can turn you into an atheist zombie.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:17:53am

re: #190 Nojay UK

Why are Americans so obsessed with the British Empire, something that hasn’t existed for over fifty years?

It’s our go-to when the Brits want to criticize our foreign policy. We still need another 20 years to even come close to the problems caused by the break up of the Ottoman empire.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:18:28am

re: #178 Dopamine Fish

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

You can’t fail high school if you don’t go.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:18:44am

re: #195 JOE 🥓

I got relatives who INSIST that there is no such thing as Covid. They believe the bullshit on Facebook that their Pulpit Pimp Pastors recite about Fauci is killing people in hospitals. Oh and the “vaccine” deliberately infects you plus puts nanobots in your brain so Bill Gates can turn you into an atheist zombie.

The sleep of reason breeds monsters…

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:19:51am
Just four days before he was set to stand trial for a fatal hit-and-run accident, South Dakota Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg (R) got his seventh speeding ticket in seven years, KSFY reports.

Ravnsborg cut a deal last week with prosecutors to avoid trial in the hit-and-run case and he pleaded no contest to lesser charges.

7.
And a dead pedestrian
White justice

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:23:08am

Prolonged nostalgia for colonialism and slavery largely depend on which end of the whip your people were on.

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garzooma  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:24:10am

re: #185 Decatur Deb

These people eat sheep dip.

Hey, they went from fish medicine to sheep medicine. Progress!

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Acemarilllion  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:25:03am

re: #161 lawhawk

That reverse gated snare though.

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sagehen  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:28:40am

re: #196 Belafon

It’s our go-to when the Brits want to criticize our foreign policy. We still need another 20 years to even come close to the problems caused by the break up of the Ottoman empire.

In the late 70’s, I had a British friend who’d get sniffy with me when I tried to assert America’s preeminent position in the world. He’d pull out how “back in the day, the sun never set on the British Empire.” I’d tell him “let’s speak about this again when the US has three planets.”

Joke’s on me, I suppose. We really dropped the ball on that one.

And the UK of today, or at least the UK of shortly pre-Brexit, is superior in every measurable way to the UK of the late 1970’s.

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Ming5000  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:28:49am

Expert, DOCTOR, endorsed medical advice, ya’ll.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:30:36am

re: #119 BeachDem

Hmmmm

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:32:50am

re: #178 Dopamine Fish

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

It doesn’t go away — but it preserves your approval ratings. China successfully concealed the total number of cases and deaths and no one will ever know the truth. This has been a successful ploy of autocrats and dictators the world over: if information is not officially reported or recorded, it didn’t happen and you can get away with murder. For the bonus round, you attribute any deaths to minorities or undocumented immigrants, so it’s someone else who is responsible. And your base will lap it up and regurgitate your lies — or alternative facts.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:37:26am

re: #188 Dopamine Fish

Admittedly, the family got a quack to write him a prescription, so there’s at least a tenuous legal basis for the ruling. With that said, the hospital is undoubtedly going to ensure they get a liability waiver before administering a drug that is officially and specifically discouraged for use in treating COVID-19 and was prescribed by a physician who does not have the ability to practice medicine at that hospital.

This may also be a case where, because of a dire prognosis, the family is demanding a “hail Mary pass”.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:38:52am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

This may also be a case where, because of a dire prognosis, the family is demanding a “hail Mary pass”.

Probably quite likely. In any case, it sounds like the guy is about to die, they’ll probably sue the hospital for malpractice because they didn’t give him the ivermectin right away, the hospital will move to dismiss and provide expert testimony and peer-reviewed studies showing that sheep dip doesn’t work, and that’ll be the last we hear of it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:43:11am
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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:44:00am

re: #188 Dopamine Fish

Admittedly, the family got a quack to write him a prescription, so there’s at least a tenuous legal basis for the ruling. With that said, the hospital is undoubtedly going to ensure they get a liability waiver before administering a drug that is officially and specifically discouraged for use in treating COVID-19 and was prescribed by a physician who does not have the ability to practice medicine at that hospital.

Watch it now pop up in other places cause, “precedent”

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:45:12am

The full spider dance video is also kind of interesting (1:20):

“THE SPIDER” amazing dance by Milena Sidorova (OFFICIAL VIDEO)

Which leads to:

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:49:16am

re: #210 Dangerman

Watch it now pop up in other places cause, “precedent”

Precedent is a weird thing in the law, though. While it’s certainly possible that the case could be used again elsewhere, it’s far more likely to apply as precedent if it goes to a higher court and is affirmed. The likelihood of that decreases, however, because higher courts tend to be more balanced politically and also not stupid as a general rule.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:51:13am

re: #209 The Pie Overlord!

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Example of real journalism.

Compare that to the endless GOP stenography practiced by the DC Press Corpse.

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:52:18am

re: #178 Dopamine Fish

What is this stupid fucking talking point?! I literally don’t get it. COVID doesn’t go away just because you stop testing for it. How does that make any fucking sense even in their warped and broken brains?!

we must constantly remember:
its not about logic, reason, science, or even consistency from day to day

the act is just for the rubes
they are simply betting that their constituents are too stupid to realize…whatever
they are betting that R primary voters won’t remember details from a year or three ago

they don’t have to be right in what they say, and they can contradict whatever they said yesterday. as long as their base sees them stirring the pot right this second (owning the libs)

when we debate the idiocy, wrongness, non-science, how could they possibly say this….
desantis, abbott, cawthorne, greene, bobert, gosar, on and on - they know exactly what they are saying

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:55:56am

David Donald Spears, 70, Evansville, IN, said we’d have to pay him $150K tax free to get vaccinated.

We didn’t pay him and now he’s taking a well deserved Dirt Nap.

sorryantivaxxer.com

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:57:03am

re: #212 Dopamine Fish

Precedent is a weird thing in the law, though. While it’s certainly possible that the case could be used again elsewhere, it’s far more likely to apply as precedent if it goes to a higher court and is affirmed. The likelihood of that decreases, however, because higher courts tend to be more balanced politically and also not stupid as a general rule.

bad word choice on my part
i just meant it’s a foot in the door so some other doctor can now say “it has been done before”

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:57:08am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

David Donald Spears, 70, Evansville, IN, said we’d have to pay him $150K tax free to get vaccinated.

We didn’t pay him and now he’s taking a well deserved Dirt Nap.

sorryantivaxxer.com

Wow, greedy much? Damn. I went and got vaccinated for free, because life doesn’t have a price tag.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:58:42am

re: #211 ckkatz

Not bad, but not as good as real spider dance…

Peacock Spiders dancing to Cuban Pete

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:58:54am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 7:59:30am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Wow, greedy much? Damn. I went and got vaccinated for free, because life doesn’t have a price tag.

If that asshole wanted $150,000 that bad he should have bought a Powerball ticket.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:00:12am

re: #209 The Pie Overlord!

Remember, it’s always projection with them. It makes sense to her because that is exactly what is happening on their end. Thousands of brain-dead zombies repeating their lies and working overtime to overthrow our government. The entire Federalist Society — every member — is on board with this. Our democracy is hanging by a thread and it won’t take much to destroy it, to the applause of tens of millions of our fellow Americans.

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:03:08am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

David Donald Spears, 70, Evansville, IN, said we’d have to pay him $150K tax free to get vaccinated.

We didn’t pay him and now he’s taking a well deserved Dirt Nap.

sorryantivaxxer.com

I guess that that grift attempt didn’t work. He’ll have to figure out a different one. Oh, wait…

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:06:03am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

David Donald Spears, 70, Evansville, IN, said we’d have to pay him $150K tax free to get vaccinated.

We didn’t pay him and now he’s taking a well deserved Dirt Nap.

sorryantivaxxer.com

How many will he take with him?

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:06:22am

You can once again count on the DC Press Corpse to give this a pass.

Trump Reveals His Master Plan for Afghanistan: We Should’ve ‘Let It Rot’

thedailybeast.com

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:07:23am

re: #76 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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So he is for abolishing police unions because those police are fucking idiots?

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:08:38am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

(Yes, the picture theme is Mexican, not Cuban. But…)

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:09:10am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

This may also be a case where, because of a dire prognosis, the family is demanding a “hail Mary pass”.

And to think, he could’ve just gotten vaccinated, for free.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:09:31am
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Eventual Carrion  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:12:28am

re: #90 gocart mozart

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I worked with a gal named McCracken years ago, and I always called her Phil.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:19:30am
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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:20:30am

Nasty one, relatable as an Ida death:

Louisiana man, 71, attacked by alligator in front of wife, presumed dead

al.com

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:21:19am

I agree with mistermix on this:

These are pediatricians practicing at a local hospital. Obviously, these are violent protests and the protesters should be arrested, but they won’t be, for a variety of reasons. The first reason is that they’re white. I assume the other reasons include the demonstrated inability of the police to stage a moderate response to a protest, as well as the hospital’s desire to avoid bad publicity. And did I mention that the protesters are white?

The same goes for the loud anti-mask mobs at school board meetings. They should be escorted out by security as soon as they yell over everyone, but they aren’t. Instead, meetings are being cut short.

Ignoring these people will not make them go away. Protestors at BLM marches go there prepared to be arrested. I’ll bet you that most of these people go to these protests with the same attitude as the 1/6 protesters, who are shocked when they receive consequences. Of course, the consequences that the 1/6 protesters have received so far pale in comparison to the average of 27 months that BLM protesters received. But at least being arrested and booked might deter some of these loudmouths. Our teachers and healthcare workers deserve it.

balloon-juice.com

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:21:42am

re: #229 Eventual Carrion

I worked with a gal named McCracken years ago, and I always called her Phil.

That would land you in sex harassment training now.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:23:26am

Stupidity is not limited to the US of A

‘F*cking Psychopath!’: Video Shows Furious Anti-Masker Peeing on Dairy Queen Counter

A furious anti-masker in Canada has carried out a disgusting protest in a Dairy Queen by taking a leak on the shop’s counter in front of horrified staff.

thedailybeast.com

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:23:32am

re: #228 JOE 🥓

This is interesting in a train wreck kind of way.

Will the GQP in the Arizona Senate finally throw CyberNinjas under the bus to save their own skins?

If so, will it be for non-performance, fraud, grift, or something else?

If not, how will the GQP try to spin and defend this fiasco?

Will it be “Squirrel!”, it’s Joe Biden’s fault, it’s the emails of Hilary Clinton’s fault?

Will the voters of Arizona finally throw in the towel and vote the GQP out?

Or will the voters not. Essentially saying “Please, Sir, may I have more”?

No matter what, it’s millions more tax dollars on the Arizona taxpayers.

Stay tuned…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:25:54am

re: #229 Eventual Carrion

I worked with a gal named McCracken years ago, and I always called her Phil.

Ben Dover and Phillip McCavitty
Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald
Pat McGroyne

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:27:36am

I fell for this satire until calochortus pointed it out to me.

But I still fear we have achieved Full Idiocracy and there is no turning back

Town of Ivermectin, CA Tells Medical Tourists to Stay Away

As many as a hundred sick medical tourists show up each day, clogging both the hardware store and the small clinic. The latter was already short-staffed.

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:28:10am

re: #235 ckkatz

This is interesting in a train wreck kind of way.

Will the GQP in the Arizona Senate finally throw CyberNinjas under the bus to save their own skins?

If so, will it be for non-performance, fraud, grift, or something else?

If not, how will the GQP try to spin and defend this fiasco?

Will it be “Squirrel!”, it’s Joe Biden’s fault, it’s the emails of Hilary Clinton’s fault?

Will the voters of Arizona finally throw in the towel and vote the GQP out?

Or will the voters not. Essentially saying “Please, Sir, may I have more”?

No matter what, it’s millions more tax dollars on the Arizona taxpayers.

Stay tuned…

That is not how the GQP works. No matter how flimsy the “report” on the fraudit is, they will triumphantly declare it to be incontrovertible evidence of massive voter fraud and that Trump won. The mainstram media will broadcast their lies with virtually no pushback.

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:30:36am

re: #231 Decatur Deb

I guess that we humans are not always at the top of the food chain.

But we used to address this by killing off anything that we thought might challenge us. We do not do this as much anymore.I wonder if we will be moving back in that direction.

What sayest you, the Alabama resident?

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:30:39am

re: #217 Dopamine Fish

Wow, greedy much? Damn. I went and got vaccinated for free, because life doesn’t have a price tag.

the astronomical odds of your individual, one time and never again, existence are…astronomical.

Your primary aim should be, must be, to do as much justice to that miraculous gift as you are able.

You have consciousness and self-awareness. You can recognize it.
You should be thankful, grateful to the fates, karma, the gods, God, or even plain random chance will do, that you, the unique you, exists.

To waste it, squander it purposely, or even live merely blindly is cosmically frivolous.

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calochortus  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:32:32am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot get over things like this

Just cannot

We have achieved Full Idiocracy and there is no turning back

Town of Ivermectin, CA Tells Medical Tourists to Stay Away

As many as a hundred sick medical tourists show up each day, clogging both the hardware store and the small clinic. The latter was already short-staffed.

Pretty sure it’s satire.

Edit, I looked at the site. Yup. Satire.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:34:24am

re: #239 ckkatz

I guess that we humans are not always at the top of the food chain.

But we used to address this by killing off anything that we thought might challenge us. We do not do this as much anymore.I wonder if we will be moving back in that direction.

What sayest you, the Alabama resident?

This is a theme discussed in Homo Sapiens: a Brief History

namely that it was not that long ago when we were much lower on the food chain and that is reflected in our behavior and character: always on the lookout for threats, real and potential to the point of paranoia.

Apex predators like lions can be very violent but they have a rather calm, what we would call “regal” nature because they are assured of their position in the food chain.

Look at how we are not only cruel and violent but seem to delight in cruelty. And the worse cases are often petty tyrants and tinhorn dictators who are insecure in their power and see potential conspirators all around them. And bullies are often sociopaths who suffer from an inferiority complex and want to pass the pain down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:35:44am

re: #241 calochortus

Pretty sure it’s satire.

yep, and I fell for it. Should have noted that Invermectin would be a Scottish name and not Swedish…

244
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:36:13am

re: #239 ckkatz

I guess that we humans are not always at the top of the food chain.

But we used to address this by killing off anything that we thought might challenge us. We do not do this as much anymore.I wonder if we will be moving back in that direction.

What sayest you, the Alabama resident?

When we moved here, this was about the northern edge of the alligator line. There was a tiny visitor the kids named “Izard” in the stream a couple hundred yards away. Now they are killing 900 pounders in the lake 50 miles north of us. Wife and daughter paddled their kayak up to a 12 footer pretending to be a log.

Bees and dogs are still more likely to kill one of us.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:36:49am

re: #235 ckkatz

…….

Will the voters of Arizona finally throw in the towel and vote the GQP out?

Or will the voters not. Essentially saying “Please, Sir, may I have more”?

No matter what, it’s millions more tax dollars on the Arizona taxpayers.

Stay tuned…

.

Just a reminder — Americans cannot vote them out if they CANNOT vote. And Arizona is doing its best to stop minorities from voting — restrictions that received the hearty approval of the racist majority on SCOTUS. The Republicans are doing their best to turn us into a new version of the old South Africa where only whites could vote.

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:38:26am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This is a theme discussed in Homo Sapiens: a Brief History

namely that it was not that long ago when we were much lower on the food chain and that is reflected in our behavior and character: always on the lookout for threats, real and potential to the point of paranoia.

Apex predators like lions can be very violent but they have a rather calm, what we would call “regal” nature because they are assured of their position in the food chain.

Look at how we are not only cruel and violent but seem to delight in cruelty. And the worse cases are often petty tyrants and tinhorn dictators who are insecure in their power and see potential conspirators all around them.

That was an excellent book! If I recall correctly, the author even (essentially) addressed the US loss in Afghanistan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:39:50am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

When we moved here, this was about the northern edge of the alligator line. There was a tiny visitor the kids named “Izard” in the stream a couple hundred yards away. Now they are killing 900 pounders in the lake 50 miles north of us. Wife and daughter paddled their kayak up to a 12 footer pretending to be a log.

Bees and dogs are still more likely to kill one of us.

There was a BBC article about a woman from a town in the Santa Monica Mountains who chased off a mountain lion attacking her son.

I think the article headline should have read “Mountain Lion Defends its Territory from Encroaching Humans”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:40:47am

re: #245 Hecuba’s daughter

.

Just a reminder — Americans cannot vote them out if they CANNOT vote. And Arizona is doing its best to stop minorities from voting — restrictions that received the hearty approval of the racist majority on SCOTUS. The Republicans are doing their best to turn us into a new version of the old South Africa where only whites could vote.

Things have only been going downhill since they expanded the franchise past White Male Landowners who can trace their ancestry back to William the Conqueror.

249
plansbandc  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:40:59am

re: #229 Eventual Carrion

Did she smack you?

250
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:42:43am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

When we moved here, this was about the northern edge of the alligator line. There was a tiny visitor the kids named “Izard” in the stream a couple hundred yards away. Now they are killing 900 pounders in the lake 50 miles north of us. Wife and daughter paddled their kayak up to a 12 footer pretending to be a log.

Bees and dogs are still more likely to kill one of us.

Deer — let’s not forget deer! Aren’t they the mammal most likely to cause our death in this country?

But for mass deaths — it’s viruses and bacteria FTW.

251
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:44:11am

re: #249 plansbandc

Did she smack you?

Reminds me of another joke from my NJ girlfriend:

A guy comes to work with two black eyes.

“What happened?” asks his colleague.

“I was riding the escalator and there was a woman in front of me in a green dress that was stuffed up the crack of her butt, so I pulled it out for her and she turned around and smacked me in the eye.”

“But what happened to the other eye?”

“I saw she didn’t like that I’d pulled it out so I tried to stuff it back in for her!”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:44:16am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

Deer — let’s not forget deer! Aren’t they the mammal most likely to cause our death in this country?
…

Nope. People.

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ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:48:44am

re: #250 Hecuba’s daughter

Deer — let’s not forget deer! Aren’t they the mammal most likely to cause our death in this country?

That reminds me, it’s just about deer breeding season locally. Aka “The Rut”. Thousands of distracted deer will be running through traffic. Particularly after dark.

Reportedly, about 7000 deer a year manage to catch a car in Fairfax County.

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KGxvi  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:49:01am

I keep thinking about the Taliban’s offer of surrender in December 2001 and Rumsfeld’s refusal to even consider it because the Taliban wanted Omar to basically live out his life under house arrest in Kandahar.

How different the last 20 years could have been if we would have agreed with the then new Afghan government and accepted the surrender…

255
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:53:05am

More crazy.

256
ckkatz  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:53:43am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

When we moved here, this was about the northern edge of the alligator line. There was a tiny visitor the kids named “Izard” in the stream a couple hundred yards away. Now they are killing 900 pounders in the lake 50 miles north of us. Wife and daughter paddled their kayak up to a 12 footer pretending to be a log.

Bees and dogs are still more likely to kill one of us.

The DC region is still north of the alligator range. But every year that line seems to creep a bit closer. Right now it is supposed to be the North Carolina/Virginia border.

My county is also supposed to be north of the Cottonmouth/Water moccasin, Africanized Bee and Fire Ant ranges as well. But, as you point out, the region still has millions of humans.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:54:01am

re: #254 KGxvi

I thought it had to do with the Taliban wanting to send bin Laden to a third country, not the US?

258
KGxvi  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:54:04am

re: #254 KGxvi

For context if anyone doesn’t remember (I certainly didn’t until recently).

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:54:35am

re: #254 KGxvi

I keep thinking about the Taliban’s offer of surrender in December 2001 and Rumsfeld’s refusal to even consider it because the Taliban wanted Omar to basically live out his life under house arrest in Kandahar.

How different the last 20 years could have been if we would have agreed with the then new Afghan government and accepted the surrender…

Let’s not put the entire blame on Rumsfeld. Cheney was running things — and he was thirsting for war, especially with Iraq.

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Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:54:52am

re: #255 No Malarkey!

More crazy.

Boy, do I have a website for her. The Christians aren’t sticking around.

261
BlueSpotinAL  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:55:01am
262
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:55:36am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a BBC article about a woman from a town in the Santa Monica Mountains who chased off a mountain lion attacking her son.

I think the article headline should have read “Mountain Lion Defends its Territory from Encroaching Humans”

Had a mountain lion written the headline, it would have.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:56:49am

re: #255 No Malarkey!

More crazy.

performance art

264
KGxvi  Aug 31, 2021 • 8:57:57am

re: #257 Belafon

I thought it had to do with the Taliban wanting to send bin Laden to a third country, not the US?

I believe that was before the war. Which I think most observers believed to be a stall tactic (it’s probably when Bid Laden got out of Afghanistan, considered with hindsight).

265
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:02:07am

The diametric opposite of white nationalist American Jesus.

266
sagehen  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:02:36am

re: #239 ckkatz

I guess that we humans are not always at the top of the food chain.

But we used to address this by killing off anything that we thought might challenge us. We do not do this as much anymore.I wonder if we will be moving back in that direction.

What sayest you, the Alabama resident?

I’m a NYC cynic; I say she’s lying. There was no alligator. She killed him with a kitchen knife, and made up a story.

267
Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:04:32am

re: #265 No Malarkey!

The diametric opposite of white nationalist American Jesus.

I absolutely love that. I wonder where the original is so I can steal it.

268
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:07:06am

re: #255 No Malarkey!

More crazy.

[Embedded content]

These assholes screaming at School Board members remind me of the fucking Teabaggers who attacked congressmen and senators during the Obamacare debate. And who is the #1 person pushing these assholes?

Mike Flynn.

Why hasn’t he been arrested?

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No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:09:44am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:20:21am

re: #266 sagehen

I’m a NYC cynic; I say she’s lying. There was no alligator. She killed him with a kitchen knife, and made up a story.

I’m pretty sure that possibility has occurred to the local police.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:20:36am

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272
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:25:51am

What do assholes like Gosar, Brooks, Biggs & Cawthorn have to do to get arrested?

273
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:29:38am
274
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:32:59am

re: #273 No Malarkey!

275
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:33:40am

And we got another Kook calling the police on a disabled Black woman…

Guy Calls Cops On Black Woman Who He Doesn’t Believe Is Disabled—And Gets His A** Handed To Him

comicsands.com

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:33:45am

re: #271 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:38:15am

re: #272 JOE 🥓

What do assholes like Gosar, Brooks, Biggs & Cawthorn have to do to get arrested?

Join a protest supporting BLM?

278
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:39:49am

re: #275 JOE 🥓

And we got another Kook calling the police on a disabled Black woman…

Guy Calls Cops On Black Woman Who He Doesn’t Believe Is Disabled—And Gets His A** Handed To Him

comicsands.com

jfc, everyone doesn’t limp

sometimes it’s aerobic limits

279
Dopamine Fish  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:40:24am

re: #278 Dangerman

jfc, everyone doesn’t limp

sometimes it’s aerobic limits

It could even be mental limits. Disabilities aren’t always physical.

280
Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:41:10am

re: #275 JOE 🥓

And we got another Kook calling the police on a disabled Black woman…

Guy Calls Cops On Black Woman Who He Doesn’t Believe Is Disabled—And Gets His A** Handed To Him

comicsands.com

I knew a black guy with severe asthma who had to deal with this kind of person more than once over his handicapped plates.

281
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:51:09am

re: #280 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew a black guy with severe asthma who had to deal with this kind of person more than once over his handicapped plates.

I’ve had to deal with Kooks and Karens who have screamed at me saying I’m faking it walking with side canes. They won’t shut up so I engage in a bit of Tongue Fu® that I learned at the feet of the master Harlan Ellison…

282
Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:53:29am

re: #276 Dopamine Fish

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2021 • 9:56:02am

re: #279 Dopamine Fish

It could even be mental limits. Disabilities aren’t always physical.

And the thing about the physical and the mental is they can’t be separated. Can’t have one without the other. Which is weird, because the main function of the mental seems to be to draw lines between things.

284
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:00:02am

re: #272 JOE 🥓

What do assholes like Gosar, Brooks, Biggs & Cawthorn have to do to get arrested?

Not be white.

/

285
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:05:18am

re: #284 Eclectic Cyborg

Not be white.

/

That doesn’t explain why Ali Alexander is still free.

286
lawhawk  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:07:55am
287
wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:11:47am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

That doesn’t explain why Ali Alexander is still free.

Whiteness is a social construct.

288
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:15:17am

re: #279 Dopamine Fish

It could even be mental limits. Disabilities aren’t always physical.

fair point

289
Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:15:25am
290
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:15:53am

re: #280 Punish Domestic Terrorists

I knew a black guy with severe asthma who had to deal with this kind of person more than once over his handicapped plates.

you got a problem, you take it up with the state that issued the permit

291
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:17:40am

re: #286 lawhawk

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i stopped believing florida’s numbers a year ago

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wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:18:32am

re: #290 Dangerman

you got a problem, you take it up with the state that issued the permit

Each government bureaucracy will need a Karen Dept.

293
Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:20:46am

My dog lives for berry hunting…

294
jaunte  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:22:34am
295
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:24:56am

Pick your poison.

296
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:33:16am

Add this ass to the list that needs to be arrested.

Lauren Boebert demands Kamala Harris be impeached for not invoking the 25th Amendment

rawstory.com

297
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:34:49am

re: #287 wrenchwench

Whiteness is a social construct.

sounds terribly critically racist

298
Patricia Kayden  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:34:55am

re: #232 Belafon

Call the police. Tell the police to pretend that the idiots are unarmed Black protesters.

299
DodgerFan1988  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:35:32am
301
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:36:47am

re: #215 JOE 🥓

David Donald Spears, 70, Evansville, IN, said we’d have to pay him $150K tax free to get vaccinated.

We didn’t pay him and now he’s taking a well deserved Dirt Nap.

sorryantivaxxer.com

Just wondering that if instead he asked for $200k taxable he might still be alive. //

302
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:41:03am

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

My dog lives for berry hunting…

[Embedded content]

Berry good

303
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:42:25am

re: #299 DodgerFan1988

The green room started to be like the bar scene in the first Star Wars film,” he explained. “These people are freaks. Ah, and then you realize, you’re one of the freaks!” he said of his dawning self-awareness.

304
teleskiguy  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:42:40am
305
Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:44:01am

re: #303 Eclectic Cyborg

The green room started to be like the bar scene in the first Star Wars film,” he explained. “These people are freaks. Ah, and then you realize, you’re one of the freaks!” he said of his dawning self-awareness.

“Are we the baddies?”

306
Egregious Philbin  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:45:33am

re: #293 Barefoot Grin

So does mine, but she likes to eat the little green passion fruits that drop from my vine.

307
Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:45:46am

re: #296 JOE 🥓

Add this ass to the list that needs to be arrested.

Lauren Boebert demands Kamala Harris be impeached for not invoking the 25th Amendment

rawstory.com

Loon

308
wrenchwench  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:47:43am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

sounds terribly critically racist

Theoretically.

309
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:52:20am

re: #285 Hecuba’s daughter

That doesn’t explain why Ali Alexander is still free.

some tokens have privileges

310
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:53:48am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

some tokens have privileges

Especially stooges like Ali Alexander who are planning another coup for the Republican Party!

311
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:54:01am

re: #309 Backwoods_Sleuth

some tokens have privileges

If he’s free, he’s useful to someone. That might even be us.

312
Eventual Carrion  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:54:50am

re: #304 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

And I hope this next time they mow down every motherfucking one of them.

313
JOE 🥓  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:55:39am

re: #312 Eventual Carrion

And I hope this next time they mow down every motherfucking one of them.

No:

Refurbish Alcatraz and stick every last traitor there for the rest of their lives.

314
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:58:30am

re: #313 JOE 🥓

No:

Refurbish Alcatraz and stick every last traitor there for the rest of their lives.

Render them harmless and put them through the slow, defective legal process. That’s what we’re trying to preserve.

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Dangerman  Aug 31, 2021 • 10:58:46am

re: #304 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

Someone didn’t get the memo

Former Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) told WISN there should be no question that President Donald Trump lost the 2020 presidential election.

Said Ryan: “It was not rigged. It was not stolen. Donald Trump lost the election. Joe Biden won the election. It’s really clear

316
Mattand  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:02:14am

re: #244 Decatur Deb

Bees and dogs are still more likely to kill one of us.

“I’m watching you. ALWAYS.”

I made the mistake of letting this one live with me. It’s just a matter of time before he finishes the job.

317
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:02:17am

There are a handful of Republicans around who still have a grip on reality but they have no control over the rest of the party

318
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:03:33am
319
Belafon  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:03:36am

re: #317 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

here are a handful of Republicans around who still have a grip on reality but they have no control over the rest of the party

Except they think they can save the party.

320
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:04:16am

re: #319 Belafon

Except they think they can save the party.

Bless their souls.

321
No Malarkey!  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:05:00am

re: #319 Belafon

Except they think they can save the party.

They can’t though. The GQP is thoroughly radicalized.

322
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:05:04am

re: #319 Belafon

Except they think they can save the party.

They might be around to pick up the pieces if the party truly self-destructs but I do not see that happening.

323
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:06:04am

re: #315 Dangerman

What kind of fucked up reality are we in when Rand Paul sounds like a sane person?

324
Decatur Deb  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:07:01am

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of fucked up reality are we in when Rand Paul sounds like a sane person?

When did that happen?

325
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:07:02am

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of fucked up reality are we in when Rand Paul sounds like a sane person?

Quote is from Paul Ryan not Rand Paul

Ayn Rand fan

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:08:14am

re: #322 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They might be around to pick up the pieces if the party truly self-destructs but I do not see that happening.

That’s what they’re betting on, mostly because they have no other option. They think of Democrats as the enemy. Are they going to join a fringe party where they’ll never hold office again?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 31, 2021 • 11:14:40am

re: #316 Mattand

[Embedded content]

I made the mistake of letting this one live with me. It’s just a matter of time before he finishes the job.

That’s a handsome lad. They’re the most devious.

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gocart mozart  Aug 31, 2021 • 12:04:10pm

re: #265 No Malarkey!

329
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 31, 2021 • 12:18:26pm

re: #323 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of fucked up reality are we in when Rand Paul sounds like a sane person?


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