And Now, a Joyous Tiny Desk Concert by Chicano Batman

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Felix Contreras | April 17, 2017 - These guys had me at their name.

Ever since I heard the first EP back in 2009 I’ve watched Chicano Batman grow, with a sound that perfectly captures dark lounges, quinceñera dances, car shows and backyard parties.

Lots of other folks have heard something in this music — since that debut the band has played some of the biggest outdoor music festivals for diverse crowds around the country.

The magic of a band like this is in the details, and their performance here allows us to fall into the non-stop groove and passion of a sound that gets better and better with each performance. See for yourself.

Freedom is Free is available now. (iTunes) (Amazon)

Set List

“Freedom Is Free”
“Friendship (Is A Small Boat In A Storm)”
“Jealousy”

Musicians

Bardo Martinez (vocals, keys, guitar); Eduardo Arenas (bass); Carlos Arevalo (guitar); Gabriel Villa (percussion); Nya Parker Brown (vocals); Piya Malik (vocals)

Credits

Producers: Felix Contreras, Bronson Arcuri; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Niki Walker, Morgan Noelle Smith, Bronson Arcuri; Production Assistant: A Noah Harrison; Photo: Maria Carrasquero/NPR.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:36:02pm

Sorry, but Hasan Minhaj isn’t very funny. He’s bombing.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:37:24pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but Hasan Minhaj isn’t very funny. He’s bombing.

It’s too bad. There’s a great opportunity here, with Drumpf off tooting his own horn in Bumfuck, PA.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:48:39pm
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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:51:52pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:52:43pm

After showing a video of Trump praising Fox and Friends and a clip with Steve Doocy going “wow, what do you think of that!” Samantha Bee said: A 70 year old white guy from Queens watches Fox News. Stop the Presses!

Yep, Fox News created Trump and Trump is a Fox News junkie.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:53:50pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Sorry, but Hasan Minhaj isn’t very funny. He’s bombing.

Interesting. Samantha Bee should have the gig. She’s doing really well skewering the media in her special.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:55:00pm

re: #7 ObserverArt

Interesting. Samantha Bee should have the gig. She’s doing really well skewering the media in her special.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she’d already made plans to do her gig by the time they asked her and so she wasn’t available.

Of course my knowledge of the timelines involved is such that I could be completely wrong.

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ObserverArt  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:56:38pm

Heh…Will Ferrel just came out to do George W. Bush as the special guest.

“How do you like me now!”

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:58:38pm

Samantha Bee’s unedited “dinner” is about to be re-aired on Twitter.

twitter.com

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 7:59:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:03:38pm
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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:03:43pm

I watched Hasan Minhaj’s WHCD gig. He landed some zingers and skewered the big cable news outlets pretty good. And he admitted that it was a thankless job that no one wanted and that it was one of the weirdest moments of his professional career.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:05:43pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:08:22pm

A New LGF Page: President Trump Must Ask Congress to Draft Articles of Cyberwar Against Russia - or Else

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retired cynic  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:09:05pm

re: #14 Timothy Watson

If I was going to be seated at the same table as Lord, I wouldn’t fucking go.

Neither would I.

We are in that great dark green and yellow blotch in the middle of the country, with rain falling hard and without stopping. Our farm creek is out everywhere, but so far I am lucky. I’ve got power, and even some satellite internet. This whole section of west central Illinois is under water. Blah!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:10:22pm

Turns out you bastards all ran off upstairs while I was writing. So here!

re: #180 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our lawn consists of juniper bushes in the front and concrete around some tree landscaping in the back. mr. klys did not want a high maintenance lawn. (I keep fantasizing about changing it to something else low maintenance but…)

I’d love to put in some raised beds in the backyard, but the reality is that I have no idea how long we’re going to stay here and the dirt would be a decent chunk of $$$ so I opted against it for this year. If it looks like we’re still going to be here through next summer, I may work on it then and see about adding in a split to the irrigation pipe in the back that I installed with my dad so that I can put in some drip irrigation into there as well.

In the meantime, pots.

We had a lawn in front, but when the drought started, we ripped it out and covered it in mulch. One problem is that when MOST people do that, they put down landscape cloth, so that the weeds don’t grow. Not Mrs. FBW! No, she HATES landscape cloth, and insisted we’d just pull the weeds when they came up, till they finally gave up trying.

Turn out by ‘We’, she meant ME. So, this afternoon, I spent two hours pulling grass tufts. Enough to fill the Big Green Compost Bin from Recology. Probably 150# of that shit. This is after pulling TWO big green bins full of thistles in the back yard two weeks ago!

I like weeding better than gardening, oddly enough. Weeding is satisfying. It restores order and gives one the brief hope that one can actually control something.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:11:35pm

re: #14 Timothy Watson

If I was going to be seated at the same table as Lord, I wouldn’t fucking go.

Oh, I don’t know. Might be fun. You just ask him things like how he can articulate and fellate at the same time, or what Trumps balls taste like.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:11:56pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Congratulations, you’ve been CL’d.

…Aaaaand, I’m crying again.

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Jenner7  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:12:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:12:24pm

I’m not watching, but following on twitter. But this is good.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:14:42pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

Congratulations, you’ve been CL’d.

…Aaaaand, I’m crying again.

I know. Me too. I miss her, but it was an honor to know her, and now these little things remind us of her.

Fuck. Now I’m really misting up.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:16:47pm

The yam’s idea of friendly is the yam talking & the other party silent.

The fuck

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:18:42pm

re: #23 Stanley Sea

The yam’s idea of friendly is the yam talking & the other party silent.

The fuck

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:19:37pm

re: #19 thedopefishlives

Congratulations, you’ve been CL’d.

…Aaaaand, I’m crying again.

I’m still in disbelief & looking hard at my own mortality.

The fuck this happened.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:26:50pm

re: #25 Stanley Sea

I’m still in disbelief & looking hard at my own mortality.

The fuck this happened.

The best ones are always gone too soon.

Which means I will be with you guys until Armageddon.///

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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:29:43pm

re: #25 Stanley Sea

I’m still in disbelief & looking hard at my own mortality.

The fuck this happened.

I think we’ll be grieving for a while. Aminah was one of the most respected lizards & one of the most human. It’s easy to feel close to someone you admire.

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Kragar  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:29:52pm
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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:34:56pm

Anybody else feel angry CL is gone? I’m finding myself feeling angry sometimes among all the sadness.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:36:40pm

re: #29 b_sharp

Angry? No, not really. I mean, I get why others would feel that way. I’m more disappointed. She was doing such a great thing in her community. She is missed. But I’m not angry.

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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:38:48pm

re: #30 thedopefishlives

Angry? No, not really. I mean, I get why others would feel that way. I’m more disappointed. She was doing such a great thing in her community. She is missed. But I’m not angry.

It’s kind of “why the fuck did it have to be CL?” anger. Not really a rational feeling but it is what it is.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:39:52pm

re: #29 b_sharp

Anybody else feel angry CL is gone? I’m finding myself feeling angry sometimes among all the sadness.

Yes, actually, though I’ve been hesitant to say so until now. She was only in her mid-50s - that’s *way* the fuck too young to just die in your sleep. I can only assume it was due to some underlying condition, perhaps complications from the aneurysm that nearly killed her a few years before…in which case, were the signs her doctors missed, something they should have looked for but didn’t? That’s always going to bother me.

And don’t even get me started on the fact that she’s gone while the oxygen thieves polluting the current US gov are very much alive…

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Puss Power  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:40:06pm

re: #17 Blind Frog Belly White

Turns out you bastards all ran off upstairs while I was writing. So here!

We had a lawn in front, but when the drought started, we ripped it out and covered it in mulch. One problem is that when MOST people do that, they put down landscape cloth, so that the weeds don’t grow. Not Mrs. FBW! No, she HATES landscape cloth, and insisted we’d just pull the weeds when they came up, till they finally gave up trying.

Turn out by ‘We’, she meant ME. So, this afternoon, I spent two hours pulling grass tufts. Enough to fill the Big Green Compost Bin from Recology. Probably 150# of that shit. This is after pulling TWO big green bins full of thistles in the back yard two weeks ago!

I like weeding better than gardening, oddly enough. Weeding is satisfying. It restores order and gives one the brief hope that one can actually control something.

Because of the drought, some of the college lawns around here were left unwatered for a couple of years, so they’re now studies in various wild shrubs — grasses and other plants — and every space is different. I find myself liking them at least as well as boring grass plots, so you might consider not pulling them after all.

(I always hated weeding.)

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:41:59pm

re: #29 b_sharp

Anybody else feel angry CL is gone? I’m finding myself feeling angry sometimes among all the sadness.

This whole existence is angry. Seriously since the election I’m not a good person. Going through the motions etc. But fuck.

The reporters need to interview US.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:42:26pm

re: #31 b_sharp

It’s kind of “why the fuck did it have to be CL?” anger. Not really a rational feeling but it is what it is.

Like I said, I get it. I don’t feel the same way, but I get it. I can empathize.

{{{Lizardim}}}

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:43:10pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

This whole existence is angry. Seriously since the election I’m not a good person. Going through the motions etc. But fuck.

The reporters need to interview US.

Same here. I’ve always been flippant and sarcastic at least as an act, but now it isn’t an act…

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:45:10pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

This whole existence is angry. Seriously since the election I’m not a good person. Going through the motions etc. But fuck.

The reporters need to interview US.

AND the loss of the most peaceful person ever has made it that much worse.

So angry.

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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:45:21pm

re: #34 Stanley Sea

This whole existence is angry. Seriously since the election I’m not a good person. Going through the motions etc. But fuck.

The reporters need to interview US.

Yah, my normal state is at least semi-angry. I used to take meds to moderate it. This year has made it worse.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:46:05pm

re: #32 Interesting Times

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:48:00pm

On a lighter note, this is how my twitter trending list looks:

Tangering Tyrant’s rally comes in third place - SAD!
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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:48:21pm

re: #37 Stanley Sea

AND the loss of the most peaceful person ever has made it that much worse.

So angry.

I just hope Aminah knew how much she was affecting others. I don’t want to sound all corny, but she really was helping make this corner of the world a better place.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:48:31pm

A day without Felix Randomkitty (sniff)

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From the previous thread:
re: #162 thedopefishlives

People like me are in the most vulnerable position: Apostates from the Righteous Path, people who have abandoned evangelicalism and hard-core right-wing politics and who have embraced moderation in political and religious life. I expect both church and state to come down hard on people in my position sooner rather than later, but there’s no way in hell I’m going to just roll over and die.

I suspect me first: Lifelong liberal, lifelong atheist, living in an extremely conservative area and locally-well known.

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Kragar  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:50:33pm
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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:53:05pm

lolwut

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:53:12pm

re: #39 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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In her sleep. Just like every other night.

You couldn’t do anything although you wished you could.

Rest. Peace.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:54:25pm

re: #41 b_sharp

I just hope Aminah knew how much she was affecting others. I don’t want to sound all corny, but she really was helping make this corner of the world a better place.

She knew, because she kept trying.

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Kragar  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:54:42pm

re: #44 electrotek

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:54:48pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

In her sleep. Just like every other night.

You couldn’t do anything although you wished you could.

Rest. Peace.

I know. Intellectually, rationally, I know.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:58:22pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know. Intellectually, rationally, I know.

It’s brutal.

I’ve had two close friends lose their parents recently. I’m older. My parents are still kicking.

This life.

How we deal with it.

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mmmirele  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:58:43pm

Here’s an article discussing how various groups in France are shaking out in the runup to the second round of voting. The decision is being played as (my interpretation) “Macron is a generally bad choice, but Le Pen is decidedly more horrible. I’m voting for Macron.”

The former Socialist mayor of Paris, Bertrand Delanoë, told RTL radio he would follow his party’s call to vote for Macron, reminding listeners: “Hitler was elected by universal suffrage. I don’t want to make anyone feel guilty. I’m calling for responsibility, conscience … and generosity. At this given moment we have to put France before our old resentments.”

The conservative Les Républicains party, whose presidential candidate François Fillon was defeated in the first round, has also called for an electoral “barrage” against Le Pen, though some in its traditional Catholic right wing have drifted to the far right.

Even Macron’s arch-nemesis, sheep farmer José Bové, the European ecologist MP and anti-globalisation militant famous for once dismantling a McDonalds restaurant, said he would vote for the En Marche! candidate “without ambiguity or hesitation”. Bové said he had no time for “leftwing purists” like the hard-left firebrand, Jean-Luc Mélenchon.

theguardian.com

These people sound shittons more sensible than Young Mr. Douthat at the NYTimes, who doesn’t seem to have a problem with Marine Le Pen becoming president of France. At least these people understand that Macron is not a great choice, but miles better than an unrepentant Fascist.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:59:11pm

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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 8:59:26pm

re: #48 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I know. Intellectually, rationally, I know.

Grief isn’t rational. Sometimes we have to let go of the rational & just allow ourselves to be emotional.

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b_sharp  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:01:24pm

Fuckit, I’m going to bed.

Group hug.

{{{lizards}}}

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:01:54pm

re: #44 electrotek

Marine Le Pen just fired her brand new party leader over Holocaust denial, but no, she’s not a fascist.

I suspect the world would improve if social media sites all went off the air.

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:08:27pm

re: #54 Anymouse

Marine Le Pen just fired her brand new party leader over Holocaust denial, but no, she’s not a fascist.

I suspect the world would improve if social media sites all went off the air.

Don’t forget that there was a member of her party who once praised Anders Breivik as a hero and compared him to fucking Charles Martel. I shit you not.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:09:10pm

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Timothy Watson  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:09:22pm

re: #54 Anymouse

Marine Le Pen just fired her brand new party leader over Holocaust denial, but no, she’s not a fascist.

I suspect the world would improve if social media sites all went off the air.

She’s also working hard on draining that swamp:
National Front fake jobs case cost Parliament €5M

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:09:54pm

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:11:11pm

re: #55 electrotek

Don’t forget that there was a member of her party who once praised Anders Breivik as a hero and compared him to fucking Charles Martel. I shit you not.

It would appear that the various party leaders in France are urging their supporters to vote strategically in the French run-off: The choice between a former banker (who would not appeal much to the left or right) is far-and-away a superior choice to the (former) leader of the National Front.

Hopefully the French electorate can see what Donald Trump is doing here and reject that. The Netherlands already did.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:12:11pm

Someone else here, when the news about CL first broke, remarked that she wouldn’t get to see America return to sanity :( (let’s leave aside the “none of us will” jokes for now).

As someone who’s not religious and doesn’t believe in any sort of afterlife, it’s especially upsetting for me to think of all the things she won’t live to see or experience - yet another indignity to heap on the sheer unfairness of it pile.

I try not to think of my own mortality too much, but when I do it always seems to come back to whether I’ll live long enough to see one of two things:

1) Discovery of extraterrestrial life
2) The end of civilization as we know it

I just can’t shake this weird, bizarre, not-at-all-based-in-reality feeling that the choice is either one or the other, and dammit, I want to know how the story ends…

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:15:20pm

re: #41 b_sharp

I just hope Aminah knew how much she was affecting others. I don’t want to sound all corny, but she really was helping make this corner of the world a better place.

She really did. And did it one at a time. I know I’m not the only person she stepped up and helped with some code help or a kind word. Or a perspective altering smack when needed. I feel a selfish pain too, I lost a valued touchstone. I learned a lot from her.

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jaunte  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:16:30pm
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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:18:22pm

re: #59 Anymouse

It would appear that the various party leaders in France are urging their supporters to vote strategically in the French run-off: The choice between a former banker (who would not appeal much to the left or right) is far-and-away a superior choice to the (former) leader of the National Front.

Hopefully the French electorate can see what Donald Trump is doing here and reject that. The Netherlands already did.

I hope so, but Islamophobia is one hell of a drug for the otherwise-stubborn French.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:18:46pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:18:51pm

I’m out. Thanks for the CL thoughts. Even though I’m still shocked & devastated, thinking about her resistance & education helps.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:20:11pm

re: #59 Anymouse

I saw this earlier and immediately thought of you - did you write it?

People in “Red America” are not voting against their own interests.

The hard reality is that we, as a Democratic Party, have sent the political message that we do not care about them. Yes, in poll after poll, no matter the region of the country, our policy positions are viewed more favorably than the Republican position.

So, how is it we have made it clear to people in these areas we do care about them if they agree with us on most of the issues? Simple, we do not ask for their vote, we do not seek to represent them. In the last election cycle, 1,479 state legislative districts were not contested by the Democratic Party. Those districts represent around 117,000,000 constituents. We did not care enough about them to ask for their vote. Not contesting a seat is a powerful statement about your priorities, it is the most powerful statement of who a political party desires to represent.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:22:35pm

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Because…………..our CIC is addled.

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Interesting Times  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:24:03pm

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“sparked a global” should totally be a new expression for this day and age.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:33:32pm

re: #63 jaunte

This is what happens when news media outlets are interested in clickbait and eyeballs rather than journalism.

There were several smaller outlets and foreign sources that knew where the USS Carl Vinson was, as well as the Navy Department and the Department of Defense. No one bothered to check with them.

It didn’t help HR McMaster, James Mattis, and Donald Trump threw more red meat to the media rather than correcting them. (I doubt Trump could have corrected them, but the others could.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:36:57pm

It was very concerning to hear the NY Times published an article supporting Le Pen. That is a true outrage especially after their hiring of Bret Stephens. But then I actually saw the column and was reassured: it was just the usual nonsense from Ross Douthat; if we are fortunate perhaps this would be the time for the NY Times to announce that Douthat is leaving. After all, there is no need for his presence now there is a new right wing columnist writing nonsense for the paper.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:39:56pm

re: #72 Hecuba’s daughter

If I want right-wing opinion I can read my local paper, which discontinued George Will’s column as too liberal.

From a news outlet such as the New York Times I would want accurate and factual reporting. In opinion pieces (which by definition aren’t news), I would still want them to present facts with their opinion pieces (not something like that climate denialist derp they published the other day).

Free speech does not equal giving every crackpot a platform in your privately-owned newspaper.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:46:19pm

re: #70 Anymouse

This is what happens when news media outlets are interested in clickbait and eyeballs rather than journalism.

There were several smaller outlets and foreign sources that knew where the USS Carl Vinson was, as well as the Navy Department and the Department of Defense. No one bothered to check with them.

It didn’t help HR McMaster, James Mattis, and Donald Trump threw more red meat to the media rather than correcting them. (I doubt Trump could have corrected them, but the others could.)

Prosperity Bible = Greed

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 9:48:40pm

re: #75 teleskiguy

Duterte’s literal war on drugs in The Philippines is a human rights horror show from most sane accounts. Fuckface Von Clownstick probably *likes* that approach and will ask Duterte the easiest ways to implement such horror.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:01:10pm

CIC is GIC

GRIFTUS not POTUS

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:11:46pm

Ugh.

I just got my mail - there was a card from the local veterinarian that we normally use reminding us Felix is due for his rabies shot next month. I will have to call her to tell her to close out his record.

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:13:01pm

Out of boredom, I’m listening to Michael Savage’s radio broadcast from the day the USS Cole was attacked, and fast-forward to 14:40 to see Michael Savage arguing against bombing all of Yemen as retaliation:

Michael Savage Radio Show air date 10/12/2000 USS Cole

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:14:07pm

Conservatives say they would punish only doctors. With new medicines, there are none.

You’ve heard the stories of the coat hanger and the back alley, those bloody days before Roe v. Wade. Sen. Patrick J. Leahy told one recently at the Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Judge Neil M. Gorsuch. As a Vermont prosecutor in 1968, three years before the court struck down state abortion bans, cops woke Leahy up in the middle of the night, because “a young co-ed nearly died from bleeding from a botched abortion.” The senator’s drift was clear: If confirmed, Gorsuch could cast a vote, or several, to bring back those horrors (if not the archaic phrase “co-ed”).

This is by now a rehearsed conflict. Mention dying women to antiabortion activists, and they insist that women weren’t prosecuted for having unlawful abortions before Roe v. Wade and won’t be if abortion is banned. Women, in this formulation, are victims of cruel abortionists. Indeed, Leahy wound up prosecuting the seedy go-between in that case, not the woman.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:14:29pm

re: #82 Anymouse

Ugh.

I just got my mail - there was a card from the local veterinarian that we normally use reminding us Felix is due for his rabies shot next month. I will have to call her to tell her to close out his record.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:16:43pm

re: #83 electrotek

Out of boredom, I’m listening to Michael Savage’s radio broadcast

You’re crazy. A masochist in the purest sense.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:17:27pm

re: #84 Birth Control Works

Trump gave away the game (we already knew it, though) that the anti-abortion foetus cult really wants to punish women and abolish contraceptives.

As far as medications that facilitate an abortion (or prevent a pregnancy), they don’t mean much if you can’t get them. (Most pharmacies in this area do not carry any contraceptives or drugs like Plan B. You can’t force a private business to carry a product it doesn’t want to sell.)

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electrotek  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:20:00pm

re: #86 teleskiguy

You’re crazy. A masochist in the purest sense.

I’m gauging how their language changed pre-9/11 and post-9/11. One way is that before they would always refer to ‘Arab’ terrorists, but after 9/11, it was Muslim terrorists.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:21:21pm

re: #88 electrotek

I’m gauging how their language changed pre-9/11 and post-9/11. One way is that before they would always refer to ‘Arab’ terrorists, but after 9/11, it was Muslim terrorists.

You’re doing yeoman’s work, you’re still crazy.

:)

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:28:11pm

re: #88 electrotek

I’m gauging how their language changed pre-9/11 and post-9/11. One way is that before they would always refer to ‘Arab’ terrorists, but after 9/11, it was Muslim terrorists.

Interestingly, President Geo. W. Bush made a point right after Sept. 11’s attacks to go to a mosque and call for calm in treatment of Muslim-Americans.

That didn’t take.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:28:47pm

Vichy LePen’s performance in the upcoming runoff will be a good heads up on how the rest of the world perceives the Trump horror: They will either go over the edge with us or take a step back and contemplate the depths below.

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BigPapa  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:33:57pm

re: #83 electrotek

Out of boredom, I’m listening to Michael Savage’s radio broadcast…

I recall when he first got Sat slots in the Bay Area on KNBR. I didn’t think he was real.

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freetoken  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:34:25pm

Morning breaks on the water horses:

African Watering Hole Camera powered by EXPLORE.org

And they’re doing exactly what they were when we left them last night.

I have yet to see them do anything but nap - mostly in the water, sometimes on the banks of the river. A few times I’ve seen the little ones grazing on grass on the bank, so slowly you could barely make out their movements.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:37:34pm

For anyone who thinks Mike Pence would even be slightly better than Donald Trump:

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:37:37pm

Germany’s Foreign Minister Just Gave The Trump Family The Perfect Label

“There are things that are strange to me, for example the visit of his daughter to Germany which was treated almost like a world event. This mix of politics with family and business smacks of nepotism and would be unimaginable here.

“It always bothers me when members of a family, who have never been elected, show up suddenly as official state representatives and are treated almost as if they were members of a royal family.”

I may be repeating myself, or someone else. I’m tired

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:41:04pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:42:02pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:48:39pm

Truly Dark Days for America

Judge Allows White Ala. Town to Return to Segregation

shameless …

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Kragar  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:56:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:58:14pm

re: #98 Birth Control Works

Truly Dark Days for America

shameless …

What in the everloving fuck??

I can’t even.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 10:58:46pm

re: #98 Birth Control Works

Truly Dark Days for America

shameless …

Back to Jim Crow.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:00:12pm

re: #99 Kragar

Yeah, “I’m uncomfortable” is not a reason to assault anyone.

Unfortunately, Mr. Erickson has a lot of followers who believe exactly as he.

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teleskiguy  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:10:21pm
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Fat fucking chance.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:12:45pm

GOP Congressman Wept As He Begged God To Forgive U.S. For Marriage Equality
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Please stop this ride, I wanna get off

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:17:29pm
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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:18:05pm

A fellow named Claude Taylor (who claims to have worked on President Bill Clinton’s staff) says that two grand juries have been convened in the FBI investigation of Mr. Trump.

I’m guessing either wishful thinking or not-news. Also, whoever this Mr. Taylor is, why would he be in on such a thing even if it was true?

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:19:20pm

re: #107 Anymouse

Thing is, if they find the smoking gun and it has GRIFTUS finger prints on it —how do they proceed. There is no precedent.

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:22:34pm

re: #105 Birth Control Works

GOP Congressman Wept As He Begged God To Forgive U.S. For Marriage Equality
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Please stop this ride, I wanna get off

The counter to that is a YouTube video (I can’t find it now) where a same-sex equality ordinance was being debated by a Missouri city council. A minister rose up to speak about the bill, reading all the evils this would cause, then noted at the end he had the wrong speech, that was the one given about Jim Crow in the past, noting they were making precisely the same arguments.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:25:00pm

re: #109 Anymouse

Probably one of my favorite youtube clips ever.

Youtube Video

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Anymouse  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:42:31pm

re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg

Probably one of my favorite youtube clips ever.

That’s the one I was thinking of. That was quite a smackdown in Springfield, Mo. city council.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 29, 2017 • 11:44:38pm

nytol

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:20:59am

How Western Civilisation Could Collapse (Goes to the BBC)

Essentially the argument is rising income inequality will first destroy the middle class and poor, followed by the wealthy who are supported by them.

Good to see the BBC is getting on board with what liberals in the USA have been saying ever since Ronald Reagan was elected - “trickle-down” economics doesn’t work.

That economic stratification may lead to collapse on its own, on the other hand, came as more of a surprise to Motesharrei and his colleagues. Under this scenario, elites push society toward instability and eventual collapse by hoarding huge quantities of wealth and resources, and leaving little or none for commoners who vastly outnumber them yet support them with labour. Eventually, the working population crashes because the portion of wealth allocated to them is not enough, followed by collapse of the elites due to the absence of labour. The inequalities we see today both within and between countries already point to such disparities.

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Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:38:54am

re: #113 Anymouse

How Western Civilisation Could Collapse (Goes to the BBC)

Essentially the argument is rising income inequality will first destroy the middle class and poor, followed by the wealthy who are supported by them.

Good to see the BBC is getting on board with what liberals in the USA have been saying ever since Ronald Reagan was elected - “trickle-down” economics doesn’t work.

Somewhere in the afterlife, Marx is laughing his ass off.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:39:59am

re: #114 Targetpractice

Somewhere in the afterlife, Marx is laughing his ass off.

“I told you so.”

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Targetpractice  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:44:41am

Apparently we’re supposed to welcome the return of feudalism because “Jobs!”

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:09:35am

Still one of the prettiests of compositions:

Delius: Hassan: 1959 Beecham Recording. (Complete).

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:13:28am

Wasn’t Ms. Fairbanks a Sanders supporter at one time (now apparently in the White House with Mike Cernovich):

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wheat-dogg  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:16:03am

re: #113 Anymouse

How Western Civilisation Could Collapse (Goes to the BBC)

Essentially the argument is rising income inequality will first destroy the middle class and poor, followed by the wealthy who are supported by them.

Good to see the BBC is getting on board with what liberals in the USA have been saying ever since Ronald Reagan was elected - “trickle-down” economics doesn’t work.

The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Chinese revolution, the Cuban revolution were all responses to the extreme economic and political disparities between the ruling classes and the working classes. The ruling classes never learn from history.

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teleskiguy  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:16:45am

re: #116 Targetpractice

Apparently we’re supposed to welcome the return of feudalism because “Jobs!”

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:17:55am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Chinese revolution, the Cuban revolution were all responses to the extreme economic and political disparities between the ruling classes and the working classes. The ruling classes never learn from history.

It’s not such much as never learning from history as thinking it’ll be different this time; sort of like, “We know the lessons of history, therefore, it won’t happen to us this time”.

Hubris.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:18:58am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The French Revolution, the Russian Revolution, the Chinese revolution, the Cuban revolution were all responses to the extreme economic and political disparities between the ruling classes and the working classes. The ruling classes never learn from history.

I suspect that XXI Century technology (military and security) would make it a lot tougher to overthrow the wealthy if it came to that.

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:19:44am

re: #119 wheat-dogg

The difference in those 4 and America today, and in parts of the history of Christendom, is that when the upper elite control the religion, or at least are not at war with the religion, than the masses can be held at bay through guilt as well as plain old power.

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Lani  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:22:52am

re: #118 Anymouse

Wasn’t Ms. Fairbanks a Sanders supporter at one time (now apparently in the White House with Mike Cernovich):

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:28:38am

Trump is stripping the State department of specialists, all the while the world turns bleaker for freedom.

E.g., Turkey:

Turkey blocks Wikipedia access under national security law

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:28:53am

re: #123 freetoken

The difference in those 4 and America today, and in parts of the history of Christendom, is that when the upper elite control the religion, or at least are not at war with the religion, than the masses can be held at bay through guilt as well as plain old power.

See also: Mike Pence.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:35:58am

theregister.co.uk
Why is the FCC Boss Being Such a Jerk?

The move was not unexpected [to end net neutrality]. But what was surprising was how FCC chair Pai decided to relay it: rather than outline the logical policy reasons for why such a big change was necessary, he instead embarked on a fact-free, frequently misleading and highly partisan speech that bordered on a rant, even going so far as to mock and dismiss anyone who opposed his idea.

Interest in the decision was significant but rather than talk to any number of telecom policy experts or reporters about the topic, Pai instead decided to give an exclusive interview with Breitbart - the hard-right website masterminded by odious presidential Svengali Steve Bannon. An odd choice.

Pai has been avoiding interviews for months with journalists who cover communications, technology, and policy, only turning up to softball interviews with outlets that he knows will praise him or light TV shows more interested in fashion trends than telecom policy.

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:40:13am

re: #127 Anymouse

Elections have consequences.

The FCC is just one of the many gears in the machinery of government. Yet its decisions can impact the political process significantly through control of the information transmission throughout our society.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:42:29am

Emmylou Harris, Dolly Parton & Linda Ronstadt - Apple Jack

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teleskiguy  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:57:23am
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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:58:17am

Decided to brush up on my E&M after many years have passed since I last studied it… and I realize how very boring the textbooks are.

No wonder I didn’t like it the first time around.

In my later life now, I have come to believe that science education has been long forced to be too many things without really being the most important thing: interesting.

E&M ought to be taught with emphasis first on phenomena, I propose. Go through the history of discoveries, and unfold the problems as they naturally occurred in time.

Instead, textbooks all too often start with eigenvectors, Green’s functions, etc.

As much as I like mathematics, I think that’s just fundamentally wrong.

And even for intro-physics, which starts with basic calculus instead of all that messy Bessel function stuff… if you really want to engage a young mind then present them with problems, hands-on demonstrations, and such.

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freetoken  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:04:24am

And while I’m being an old curmudgeon shouting at clouds… let me shout about science in our public schools.

Not only should evolution be taught, but I believe it should be central to the curriculum, as I believe biology needs to play a much bigger role in the education of children.

Now that is hot topic for two reasons - evolution, and sex. Both subjects seem to upset some parents. Perhaps most parents in some part of this country.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:09:43am

Saw a meme posted elsewhere:

Only two presidents have skipped the White House Correspondents Dinner in the last thirty-six years.

Ronald Reagan because he was nursing his gunshot injury after the assassination attempt.
Donald Trump because he was nursing his ego.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:32:57am

Great White - Rock Me

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:42:54am

The new Ag Secretary Sonny Perdue is anti-NAFTA.

One of my senators, Ben Sasse (R-NE) took him to task for that position (something something destroy Nebraska agriculture).

krvn.com

Today, shortly after Sonny Perdue was sworn in as the U.S. Agriculture Secretary, U.S. Senator Ben Sasse invited the new secretary to Nebraska and urged him to “be a champion for free trade” inside the administration.

“As you assume your new position in the Administration, I call on you to be a champion for free trade,” wrote Sasse. “Your leadership on these important issues is vital now more than ever because the Administration has provided little certainty that they understand the importance of free trade policy and its many benefits for America’s farmers, ranchers, and small businesses. Specifically, I call on you to prioritize the following critical areas: 1) Advocate for free trade policies in any consideration of the North American Free Trade Agreement; 2) Advocate for U.S. leadership in the Pacific markets post Trans-Pacific Partnership; 3) Prioritize bilateral trade deals; and 4) Expand market access and make America more competitive.”

More at KRVN

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:45:57am

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 2:46:23am

The shitslide to nowhere.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:16:57am

Amazon down here, 2 nights in a row.

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:19:52am

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:28:11am

Want

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William Lewis  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:32:02am

re: #138 Amory Blaine

Amazon down here, 2 nights in a row.

Up here just fine. Just checking on the new guitar books I ordered (one shipped. 2 waiting).

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:43:45am

Changed my mind. Buying my Whip-Its locally.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:46:19am

re: #140 Amory Blaine

I have this picture from The Onion in a nightlight:

theonion.com

“Kitten Thinks of Nothing but Murder All Day”

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 3:48:56am

re: #143 Anymouse

I love it.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 4:00:24am

re: #144 Amory Blaine

I love it.

I was always convinced my cat would have done me in if he thought he could take me.

Felix had a tendency to sleep on my chest with his paws around my throat. He would sometimes exercise his claws, waking me up.

Now I don’t have a cat threatening my life every night. It will be tough to sleep without wondering if I won’t wake up… .

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 4:01:57am

I have a few kitty shirts. My current favorite:

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 4:19:32am

Asia Only time will tell

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Amory Blaine  Apr 30, 2017 • 4:35:57am

No Sugar Tonight The Guess Who 1970

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 30, 2017 • 5:20:16am

re: #73 Anymouse

“From a news outlet such as the New York Times I would want accurate and factual reporting. In opinion pieces (which by definition aren’t news), I would still want them to present facts with their opinion pieces (not something like that climate denialist derp they published the other day).”

100% agree with this. I don’t expect nonsense and untruths to be published in the NYT for any reason — clickbait, to attract more ads, to appease Rightwingers. There are tons of Rightwing rags which already wallow in untruths. NYT needs to be different and should be concerned with providing truthful accounts to their readers. Sad to see that they are now employing climate change deniers when we have an administration which has no problems with lying to the public.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:05:46am

re: #118 Anymouse

Wasn’t Ms. Fairbanks a Sanders supporter at one time (now apparently in the White House with Mike Cernovich):

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:10:54am

re: #118 Anymouse

Wasn’t Ms. Fairbanks a Sanders supporter at one time (now apparently in the White House with Mike Cernovich):

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She works for Sputnik, so probably never a real Sanders supporter.

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I cannot.  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:12:39am

re: #150 Joe Bacon

If I didn’t know better, I’d say her entire pre-Dem Convention persona, including her cultivation of a following on social media could have been a carefully maintained fraud for the purpose of getting into “The Left [tm]” and then dropping bombs, and she maintained that fraudulent personality full-time…almost like it was her job, or something.

Come to think of it, I DON’T know better…

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:20:20am

Absolutely agree with Joy Reid (almost always): “lock her up!” chants at yesterday’s rally put the lie to the “economic anxiety” argument about Trump supporters.

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jeffreyw  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:23:59am

Imgur
Good morning!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:40:25am

re: #151 Barefoot Grin

She works for Sputnik, so probably never a real Sanders supporter.

She was always a lunatic, long before Bernie. I’m fairly certain she was a ratfucker pretending to be a Sanders supporter. She’s always liked being a shit-stirrer.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2017 • 6:55:31am

I’m at my desk supposed to be working. That’s why all the posts this morning. Love this:

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:02:00am

Heh, I’m watching the Russian Grand Prix and they are in the driver’s cool down room right before the celebrations.

Vlad Putin is there congratulating the drivers and then he starts chattering. His interpreter is explaining to the drivers how the hotels in the Sochi area are filled up and the grandstands are the fullest since this race started 4 years ago.

Drivers don’t seem to care too much…tired from a hot two hours in a high-speed race car. And the winner is pumped up after winning his first ever GP. Fuck the politics.

Reminds me of Trump and how it is not about the subject at hand but how awesome his leadership is to allow this upsurge in attendance. I guess the drivers and race teams should be glad Vlad is allowing this.

And there is Vlad on the winners platform handing out the Trophy’s and he is ducking out fast so he doesn’t get sprayed with champagne. Guys on TV just warned drivers to not spray little Vlad.

Hmmm. I have a feeling Trump will want to be in Austin Texas in November for the U.S. Grand Prix.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:16:13am

he’s ranting again

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:25:33am

White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus tells @jonkarl: Changing the libel laws “is something that we’ve looked at.” #ThisWeek

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Birth Control Works  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:35:17am

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:48:41am

re: #67 Interesting Times

I saw this earlier and immediately thought of you - did you write it?

People in “Red America” are not voting against their own interests.

No, but I’ll go read it … when I write at Daily Kos (rarely, as I find this place more interesting), I write under the name “Village Vet.”

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:55:49am

Mike Pence is really unlikable. He was on Meat the Chuck. That is all.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 7:56:47am

this transcript…good grief…

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:00:06am

Happy Sunday folks. Go have some fun, get some rest and above all don’t let the so called POTUS get ya down. The image below is one my drone guy captured on a shoot downtown for me. Aminah took a liking to it and did the contrast crop and color. Then was kind enough to send me a bunch of prints.

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Ace Rothstein  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:03:11am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

this transcript…good grief…

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I watched it. JFC, his tells are so obvious. When he has no idea what he’s talking about (almost all the time, I know) he interrupts and filibusters until the questioner backs off. And the bags under his eyes, holy fucking shit.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:18:05am

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

this transcript…good grief…

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Honestly, John, I’m okay. But why didn’t Podesta and the Democrats, why didn’t they allow the F.B.I. to eject the server? They hired some company who somebody said some pretty bad things about, to go and check their server and give the information. So they were hacked. Why didn’t they — the Democrats allow the F.B.I.? They told the F.B.I., “We are not going to allow you to do it.” Why did they do that? Why did they do that, John? Why wouldn’t they let the F.B.I. go in and check? And by the way, why didn’t the F.B.I. complain about it?

JOHN DICKERSON: Mr. President, I think we’re going to have to end it there. [Because interviewing you is fucking pointless.]

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:18:46am

re: #67 Interesting Times

Okay, I read it, and gave basically the same response there I write here about contesting elections. Let’s see how the folk at the Great Orange Satan take it.

dailykos.com
(goes to my comment at Daily Kos)

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:21:56am

re: #168 Anymouse

Okay, I read it, and gave basically the same response there I write here about contesting elections. Let’s see how the folk at the Great Orange Satan take it.

dailykos.com
(goes to my comment at Daily Kos)

Fella, I gave a recommend to your post. It’s just getting too depressing when I post there and I get endless replies that are obsessed with nitpicking.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:22:13am

Amelia Molitor’s Story Is Better, And More Important, Than Joe Mixon’s

With one right hook to her face, Amelia Molitor’s life changed. The girl who’d grown up a Sooner through and through - whose family had been Oklahoma season ticket-holders growing up, had matriculated to the only school she ever dreamed of attending. She’d been an active participating in the Oklahoma University community, joining clubs, attending sporting events, and working to help pay her way through.

One night in Norman, a nice, although maybe not ideal college life was interrupted. Some words. A shove. And ultimately a punch that’s still reverberating.

Amelia lay prone on the floor of a place called Pickleman’s, her famous football-playing assailant having long since bailed, friends and onlookers trying to help and comfort, and her face in a mangled mess of broken jaw and cheek bones.

From there, things got worse. Physically. Eight hours of surgery. A jaw wired shut for weeks. A steady liquid diet. Numbness in her face for six months.

… .

The guy who punched her will play for the Cincinnati Bengals this fall.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:25:05am

re: #169 Joe Bacon

Fella, I gave a recommend to your post. It’s just getting too depressing when I post there and I get endless replies that are obsessed with nitpicking.

I find Little Green Footballs to be more pragmatic, more upbeat, and generally more interested in what’s going on.

I opened an account there before I ever heard of this place. Since I found LGF, my posting at Kos has declined precipitously, to the point I hardly go there any more.

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BigPapa  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:26:10am

I wonder what the agitprop wingnuts ranting about free speech at Berkeley think about Priebus commentary on libel laws.

I have little doubt all the 1A Patriots on Twitter will fall in line because liberals.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:26:40am

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:30:18am

MTP had an interview with both U.S. Senators from Maine…Angus King and Susan Collins. At the end of it Chucky said that wasn’t so bad and maybe others will see it is good to have people from across the isles on and speaking with each other.

King is a workable independent like Sanders* but is not a Democrat. Maybe Chucky’s words would mean more if there was an actual Democrat.

And now his stupid panel is running down Democrats for going too far left on social issues and Trump spoke for the common man.**

Gawd, some of this stuff is just really bumming me the fuck out. Everyone is right, everyone is wrong and everyone is hunkered down in their own foxholes.

* What’s with New England Senators being independent.

** So sick of this common man bullshit. He spoke for the ignorant common man that doesn’t know crap and is finding out it was crap.

Arrrrrggghh! I need to give up watching politics on TV!!! They are not helping. But it is obvious ALL of this is the Democrats problem. I guess it was up to them to stop Trump and since they didn’t they own it. Hell, that’s the way Sanders thinks.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:32:49am

re: #170 Birth Control Works

Reading that reminds me first of high school where the only thing the school cared about was having a winning football team. Why? Because in Western Pennsylvania, Football is the REAL religion. High School football players are treated like Gods.

Then going to Pitt and seeing it taken to an even further extreme. Football players rarely in class but getting A’s and B’s. They’re eating at the local steakhouse while we were eating dorm food. Players would beat up people and the school would come to their defense as well as the local media. Players got girls pregnant and alumni would take care of arranging the abortion.

And then I see picture of my High School reunions which I never would go to and see all those high school jocks who now realize that their life peaked at 18 and from then it was all downhill…

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:33:02am

re: #174 Eric The Fruit Bat

Can I borrow your E-mail and use it for my US House rep?

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:35:14am

re: #176 Joe Bacon

My high school class does not invite me to reunions.

I was not popular with them when I was a poor atheist liberal hippie then, and that appears to be the case now.

That’s okay, I wasn’t in school for a popularity contest anyway. Following my class of seventeen people on-line, I don’t think I’m missing much either.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:36:59am

re: #174 Eric The Fruit Bat

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I’m too ignorant about Internet, but is there a way to decouple Russia for awhile? Seems like an act of war like this should get a very harsh response.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:37:48am

Get to Know the Memes of the Alt-Right and Never Miss a Dog-Whistle Again

All you need to know is that when Donald Trump uses this phrase, a contingent of his base hears “Jews.” So now you know to be a bit concerned if cousin Wendy starts peppering that into the family newsletter come Christmas.

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:44:19am

re: #113 Anymouse

It is interesting that those most opposed to Marx work so hard to prove that his analysis of capitalism was correct.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:44:43am

re: #175 ObserverArt

That’s why I refer to Chuck’s GOP Suckfest as Press the Meat!

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:45:46am

re: #121 Dr Lizardo

It’s not such much as never learning from history as thinking it’ll be different this time; sort of like, “We know the lessons of history, therefore, it won’t happen to us this time”.

Hubris.

Pride isn’t a Deadly Sin because it sounds cool.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:46:20am

bbl

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:49:33am
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retired cynic  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:49:54am

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I have an attic that looks very comfortable to some squirrels, and let me tell you, the experiences of trying to discourage them makes me realize that squirrels have a MUCH longer attention span than DT.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:50:03am

re: #179 Anymouse

My high school class does not invite me to reunions.

I was not popular with them when I was a poor atheist liberal hippie then, and that appears to be the case now.

That’s okay, I wasn’t in school for a popularity contest anyway. Following my class of seventeen people on-line, I don’t think I’m missing much either.

Fella, I know that all too well. While the jocks were treated as kings I was looked down on because I was just a chess and bridge player. But I got even with them! My bridge playing was sharp enough that I’d partner with some of their mothers at tournaments. I found that was a great way to meet older women! And I made some nice $$$ partnering with them at the bridge table. Especially when I partnered with the wife of the football coach…

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Teukka  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:55:14am

re: #174 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Puss Power  Apr 30, 2017 • 8:55:39am

re: #174 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’m stealing this as a template for my letter.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:09:44am

re: #190 Puss Power

I’m stealing this as a template for my letter.

I already did. I’m sure since I’m on Adrian “I only represent Republicans” Smith’s shred before reading list, he won’t do anything with it, but we’ll see.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:14:39am

re: #188 Joe Bacon

Fella, I know that all too well. While the jocks were treated as kings I was looked down on because I was just a chess and bridge player. But I got even with them! My bridge playing was sharp enough that I’d partner with some of their mothers at tournaments. I found that was a great way to meet older women! And I made some nice $$$ partnering with them at the bridge table. Especially when I partnered with the wife of the football coach…

I’m guessing we don’t want to know any more here other than you might have made a grand slam or two.

(I’m talking about bridge there of course.)

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:18:11am

re: #192 Anymouse

I’m guessing we don’t want to know any more here other than you might have made a grand slam or two.

(I’m talking about bridge there of course.)

Ah, Frank Zappa was so right when he sang this…

What’s The Ugliest Part Of Your Body and Reprise - Mothers of Invention/Frank Zappa (Full Cover)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:19:08am

Well, considering he thinks the earth is 6,000 years old, “short-term” takes on a whole new meaning.
Pence: Tax Plan Could Increase Deficit ‘Maybe in The Short Term’

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:23:32am

re: #194 GlutenFreeJesus

Well, considering he thinks the earth is 6,000 years old, “short-term” takes on a whole new meaning.
Pence: Tax Plan Could Increase Deficit ‘Maybe in The Short Term’

Is that the reasoning behind “trickle down economics?” The idea that the world won’t be around long enough to actually do the trickle-down part?

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Timothy Watson  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:27:46am

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Does that count?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:27:48am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump doesn’t do anything except complain and surround himself with spineless yes men.

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Donkey With No Name  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:28:12am

re: #131 freetoken

In my later life now, I have come to believe that science education has been long forced to be too many things without really being the most important thing: interesting.

E&M ought to be taught with emphasis first on phenomena, I propose. Go through the history of discoveries, and unfold the problems as they naturally occurred in time.

Instead, textbooks all too often start with eigenvectors, Green’s functions, etc.

Err, what textbook are you using? The only texts that *start* with Green’s functions are graduate level, which kind of assume that you’ve gotten the historical motivations out of the way earlier.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:33:08am

re: #175 ObserverArt

Giving up cable news will do wonders for your health. It feels as if MSNBC is swerving to the Right. Not sure why since they’re not going to draw away the Rightwingers who are enamored with Fox News. Seems like a fool’s errand to try to compete for the angry White Working Class viewers who swear by Hannity.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:35:27am

re: #187 retired cynic

I have an attic that looks very comfortable to some squirrels, and let me tell you, the experiences of trying to discourage them makes me realize that squirrels have a MUCH longer attention span than DT.

It’s the difference of needing nuts vs being nuts.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:35:39am

re: #131 freetoken

Decided to brush up on my E&M after many years have passed since I last studied it… and I realize how very boring the textbooks are.

No wonder I didn’t like it the first time around.

In my later life now, I have come to believe that science education has been long forced to be too many things without really being the most important thing: interesting.

E&M ought to be taught with emphasis first on phenomena, I propose. Go through the history of discoveries, and unfold the problems as they naturally occurred in time.

Instead, textbooks all too often start with eigenvectors, Green’s functions, etc.

As much as I like mathematics, I think that’s just fundamentally wrong.

And even for intro-physics, which starts with basic calculus instead of all that messy Bessel function stuff… if you really want to engage a young mind then present them with problems, hands-on demonstrations, and such.

Well, you left me behind firmly with my twelfth-grade education. I recognise those are English-language words; I do not know to what they refer. (:: Someone has to be on the right-hand side of the education bell curve; might as well be me.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:37:08am

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Jim Wright is, as usual… right!

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Romantic Heretic  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:38:10am

re: #195 Anymouse

That was James Watt’s excuse for not looking after the environment.

That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the Interior must have: to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns; whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:38:39am

re: #203 Anymouse

Well, you left me behind firmly with my twelfth-grade education. I recognise those are English-language words; I do not know to what they refer. (:: Someone has to be on the right-hand side of the education bell curve; might as well be me.

Don’t feel bad, I took applied calculus in college and I don’t know what he’s talking about. :)

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:40:02am

Female former border patrol agent alleges the agency is rife with sexual assault on female agents, moral failure, and corruption.
crooksandliars.com

I am proud of my accomplishments as a former federal agent with the Border Patrol. Less than 5% of agents are women. That has been a consistent statistic for over twenty years. To say that the Patrol is not fond of women is being kind. To graduate and last six years is even more rare as most women drop out much sooner.

…

But with that pride in serving my country comes a fairly equal amount of shame. Like any other law enforcement agency, the USBP likes to promote the image of honor and integrity. The only problem is that they have none of that. They are instead an agency systemically full of corruption, abuse, hypocrisy, racism and sexism. While it’s true that there are a “few bad apples” in every agency, the USBP is in reality the opposite; there are instead a “few good apples.”

(more at Crooks and LIars)

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allegro  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:41:24am

re: #205 Romantic Heretic

That was James Watt’s excuse for not looking after the environment.

Being a Fish & Wildlife Service biologist was such a joy at that time. // That ass decimated it. I left. Still pissed about that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:46:18am

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:46:51am

re: #195 Anymouse

Is that the reasoning behind “trickle down economics?” The idea that the world won’t be around long enough to actually do the trickle-down part?

I think it has more to do with the GOP politicians will be out of office after having rewarded themselves and their buddies. Then when the Trump supporters realize the trickle isn’t trickling some poor sod Democrat will have to do another recovery that will be his and the party’s problem.

Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat. Keep rinsing and repeating forever.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:49:50am

re: #205 Romantic Heretic

That was James Watt’s excuse for not looking after the environment.

Brings back long suppressed memories when my Aunt made me go to her Foursquare church whose Pulpit Pimp Preacher always filled his BS sermons with the latest GOP talking points.

One day, James Watt shows up and gave his “testimony” that there was no reason to conserve any natural resources because JC and his Sonshine Band were going to return to Earth in less than a year and when JC returns he will make all the resources that the faithful need.

I sat in that pew and tuned out the bullshit to the best of my ability as my aunt stood up and tried to outshout every other brainwashed fool in that church…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:51:42am

re: #207 Anymouse

“Talk to any federal law enforcement agent aside from Border Patrol agents, and they will tell you that USBP is by far the most corrupt. This is in part due to the the minimal hiring standards which have become more and more lenient as administrations have tried to increase the numbers. Unlike other agencies, Patrol agents are not required to have a high school degree or even job experience. A valid driver’s license and passing grade on a drug test and criminal background check is it.

That is to say a background check must be started. While on duty, I saw other agents fired because their background checks finally came back as failing only after they had graduated the academy and were assigned to a station. These agents had been on duty and armed without clearing their backgrounds. The Patrol does not administer polygraphs or psychological tests like most other agencies. Many agents are in fact in the Patrol because no other agency would accept them.”

Holy shit.

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gwangung  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:53:43am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

“Talk to any federal law enforcement agent aside from Border Patrol agents, and they will tell you that USBP is by far the most corrupt. This is in part due to the the minimal hiring standards which have become more and more lenient as administrations have tried to increase the numbers. Unlike other agencies, Patrol agents are not required to have a high school degree or even job experience. A valid driver’s license and passing grade on a drug test and criminal background check is it.

That is to say a background check must be started. While on duty, I saw other agents fired because their background checks finally came back as failing only after they had graduated the academy and were assigned to a station. These agents had been on duty and armed without clearing their backgrounds. The Patrol does not administer polygraphs or psychological tests like most other agencies. Many agents are in fact in the Patrol because no other agency would accept them.”

Holy shit.

Why does this not surprise me?

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:54:59am

re: #200 Patricia Kayden

Giving up cable news will do wonders for your health. It feels as if MSNBC is swerving to the Right. Not sure why since they’re not going to draw away the Rightwingers who are enamored with Fox News. Seems like a fool’s errand to try to compete for the angry White Working Class viewers who swear by Hannity.

I only watch Rachel and Lawrence and a little Chris Hayes but that isn’t all the time. And I like Joy Reid but am too busy doing stuff on weekends to catch. I was a long time MTP on NBC watcher and it has been difficult to shake it.

I know there has always been us and them thinking but the media was better at explaining what was going on. Now the media seems to be hands off let ‘em say what they want and we’ll watch where the chips fall and report on that.

There is zero political education going on and we are paying for it.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:58:11am

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Now you know why the Border Patrol’s union was solidly behind Donald Trump.

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TedStriker  Apr 30, 2017 • 9:59:11am

re: #215 Anymouse

Now you know why the Border Patrol’s union was solidly behind Donald Trump.

Sturmabteilung, American style.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:00:35am

Sunday guinea pigs for Aminah:

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:03:06am

Okay, another one.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:03:49am

re: #176 Joe Bacon

And then I see picture of my High School reunions which I never would go to and see all those high school jocks who now realize that their life peaked at 18 and from then it was all downhill…

And that’s why they voted for the Dolt 45. Sounds like we went to the same high school. I even skipped my fiftieth because, as I told my HS girlfriend on The Book of Faces, “I just know I would end up yelling at some people.”

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:19:55am

re: #214 ObserverArt

IT’S NOW BSRNC!
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Puss Power  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:40:35am

re: #221 Anymouse

It’s not the unemployment rate when you start, it’s the one when you finish.

Thanks, Obama!

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:42:30am

re: #223 Puss Power

It’s not the unemployment rate when you start, it’s the one when you finish.

Thanks, Obama!

And only three months into an administration, the unemployment rate is the one left over from the last.

So what FOX is showing here is Democrats leave high employment, and Republicans leave high unemployment.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:43:07am

re: #223 Puss Power

It’s not the unemployment rate when you start, it’s the one when you finish.

Thanks, Obama!

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:46:09am

re: #225 Joe Bacon

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:48:39am

re: #226 Anymouse

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jeffreyw  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:48:57am

Soup’s on!

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jaunte  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:52:03am
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This isn’t going to work for him a year from now.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:53:38am

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This isn’t going to work for him a year from now.

If Orange Foolius had put the mike by his butt and farted the crowd would have been in absolute ecstasy!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:57:39am

re: #223 Puss Power

It’s not the unemployment rate when you start, it’s the one when you finish.

Thanks, Obama!

re: #229 jaunte

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This isn’t going to work for him a year from now.

You are overestimating the intelligence, ethics, and/or morality of his voters. They will fall for the Fox News graphic and his dishonesty every time. Fox news knows their audience

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2017 • 10:59:09am

re: #229 jaunte

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This isn’t going to work for him a year from now.

Oh, but I’m sure Trump will think it’s working. I mean, the towns - and the crowds - are going to be smaller, and the percentage of skinheads with swastikas in the audience will be larger; but the WH media people will simply crowd the dais more, dolly the cameras in tighter, and show the Pres (only) glowing reviews from Fox News and Breitbart. Winning!!! Bigly!!!

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Stanley Sea  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:01:20am

re: #228 jeffreyw

Soup’s on!

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Homemade rolls? They look nice!

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:02:28am

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

You are overestimating the intelligence, ethics, and/or morality of his voters. They will fall for the Fox News graphic and his dishonesty every time. Fox news knows their audience

The Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine is so strong it will keep the masses brainwashed. Between Fox, CNN, BSRNC, Hate Radio, Right wing newspapers, Right wing websites and Pulpit Pimp Preachers and Priests pushing Frank Luntz talking points the masses will continue to bow down before King Pinochet just as his consort Omarosa decreed!

Besides, those Trump Voters get off on casting a Republican ballot because they love smacking down people of color!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:06:40am

re: #234 Joe Bacon

You are correct about that. I just got off the phone with my Ward Leader. All he mentioned was the price of the tickets to the “cocktail” party. Nothing else. He knows I can see through the BS and I do not tolerate it very well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:07:49am

re: #224 Anymouse

And only three months into an administration, the unemployment rate is the one left over from the last.

So what FOX is showing here is Democrats leave high employment, and Republicans leave high unemployment.

Exactly, but Fox knows their dumbass viewers either won’t understand that or won’t care.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:08:43am

re: #235 PhillyPretzel

You are correct about that. I just got off the phone with my Ward Leader. All he mentioned was the price of the tickets to the “cocktail” party. Nothing else. He knows I can see through the BS and I do not tolerate it very well.

Paraphrasing Ricky Nelson!

“If you got to go to cocktail parties, I wish you a lot of luck, ‘cause if memories were all i’d need, I’d rather drive a truck…”

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:09:24am

re: #230 Joe Bacon

If Orange Foolius had put the mike by his butt and farted the crowd would have been in absolute ecstasy!

Upding for Orange Foolius.

Man, Trump has so many hilarious nicknames.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:12:54am

re: #237 Joe Bacon

re: #238 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m late but upding to Joe for JC & the Sonshine Band in previous comment.

You have a way with the wordies.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:15:54am

re: #236 Eclectic Cyborg

Exactly, but Fox knows their dumbass viewers either won’t understand that or won’t care.

We already know that, while Dems’ and independents’ view of the economy is largely the same now as a few months ago, Republicans’ has jumped YOOGELY.

Similarly, while Democrats’ and Independents’ views of the war against ISIS have stayed relatively constant, Republican’s surge from 28% ‘going well’ to 72% - with no new facts on the ground.

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It really is all about who’s in charge for them, not what’s actually happening.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:18:22am

re: #178 Anymouse

Be my guest.

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jeffreyw  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:18:24am

re: #233 Stanley Sea

Homemade rolls? They look nice!

Nope, they are mini-ciabatta rolls I get at the Kroger deli/bakery when they have them, not a sure thing. They come pre-sliced and are perfect for sliders.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:18:55am

re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White

We already know that, while Dems’ and independents’ view of the economy is largely the same now as a few months ago, Republicans’ has jumped YOOGELY.

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It really is all about who’s in charge for them, not what’s actually happening.

The ISIS poll really illustrated it.

They are scared witless about ISIS but now think all’s OK?

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:20:33am

re: #240 Blind Frog Belly White

The only thing Republicans care about is power. They crave power the same way a junky craves heroin. And hats of to PhRMA for hooking more people on opiates every day!

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:21:01am

re: #241 Eric The Fruit Bat

Be my guest.

I took your silence as acceptance: I already sent it.

Not that I expect Adrian Smith or his staff to respond, but he knows there is at least one person in his district paying attention (well, two, because my wife messaged him too).

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:34:48am
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PhillyPretzel  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:36:20am

Darn. This is one of the few times that there is very little on either PBS station in my area. I am going to watch one of my favorite series “Victoria.”

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:36:49am

Mrs. Betty Bowers‏ @BettyBowers 4h4 hours ago

As America’s most prodigious publisher of lies, Trump is the LAST citizen who should wish to limit #FirstAmendment.

Text did not appear with the video above … Twitter still doesn’t behave correctly on my computer.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:42:48am
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retired cynic  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:44:16am

re: #248 Anymouse

Mrs. Betty Bowers‏ @BettyBowers 4h4 hours ago

As America’s most prodigious publisher of lies, Trump is the LAST citizen who should wish to limit #FirstAmendment.

Text did not appear with the video above … Twitter still doesn’t behave correctly on my computer.

Click on the twitter bird at the bottom right of the video.

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Puss Power  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:45:11am

re: #249 Charles Johnson

If it can do that, there won’t be any trouble with throwing unicorns for everyone, right?

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:45:51am

re: #249 Charles Johnson

I think I am going to need these for the stuff that is going to start coming.
cabelas.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:47:23am

re: #249 Charles Johnson

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JOHN DICKERSON: Okay. So what I hear you saying is pre-existing is going to be in there for everybody, it’s not going to be up to the states?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Pre-existing is going to be in there and we’re also—

JOHN DICKERSON: And it’s not up to the states?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: —going to create pools.

JOHN DICKERSON: Okay.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: And pools are going to take care of the pre-existing.

JOHN DICKERSON: But on that crucial question, it’s not going to be left up to the states? Everybody gets pre-existing, no matter where they live?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: No, but the states—

JOHN DICKERSON: Guaranteed?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: —are also going to have a lot to do with it because we ultimately want to get it back down to the states.

JOHN DICKERSON: Okay. Is it a guarantee?

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Look, because if you hurt your knee, honestly, I’d rather have the federal government focused on North Korea, focused on other things, than your knee, okay? Or than your back, as important as your back is. I would much rather see the federal government focused on other things—

trump has no freaking clue what’s in the bill.
And he contradicts himself on pre-existing conditions.

cbsnews.com

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:54:19am

re: #250 retired cynic

Click on the twitter bird at the bottom right of the video.

How ‘bout that!

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JordanRules  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:54:28am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:55:09am
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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:57:08am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gaaaa. And so many people thought that he was “the One” for whatever reason.

Ronald Reagan was an actor, but at least he had government experience before he ran for President. Donald Trump is exactly why you don’t put someone who’s never had government experience in a high office; certainly not the highest office in the land.

I’m smart enough to know I wouldn’t have a freakin’ clue on what it takes to be President.

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JordanRules  Apr 30, 2017 • 11:59:22am

re: #256 Charles Johnson

He’s gonna lose every lawsuit (like all his EOs) until he dismantles the judiciary. Idiot. And yeah, he has threatened to do just that, but for now he’s a perpetual loser in court.

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Dave In Austin  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:00:29pm

Fascinating program on PBS about the Nuke Missle Accident in Ark back in 1980 ( I think). This was produced this year on American Experience.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:03:59pm

re: #215 Anymouse

Now you know why the Border Patrol’s union was solidly behind Donald Trump.

job security

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:09:22pm

re: #260 Birth Control Works

job security

I’m just spitballin’ here, but I don’t think Hillary Clinton would have sent the Border Patrol to the unemployment line …

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BeachDem  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:15:24pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

trump has no freaking clue what’s in the bill.
And he contradicts himself on pre-existing conditions.

cbsnews.com

So we’re back to high-risk state pools. Yeah, that’s a great idea that works so fucking well.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:16:40pm

re: #256 Charles Johnson

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Preibus has the gall to complain about stories not rooted in fact or reality?

Jesus, these people.

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wrenchwench  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:18:16pm

re: #261 Anymouse

I’m just spitballin’ here, but I don’t think Hillary Clinton would have sent the Border Patrol to the unemployment line …

She may have required the background checks to be completed.

/I hate catching those things

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BeachDem  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:21:14pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

Also in that interview

The relationship I have with China, it’s been already acclaimed as being something very special, something very different than we’ve ever had.

Uhh, who are these mysterious people who have “acclaimed” his relationship with China?

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jaunte  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:21:29pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

trump has no freaking clue what’s in the bill.
And he contradicts himself on pre-existing conditions.

cbsnews.com

I think he just told us all “Don’t bug me about your piddling healthcare, I’ve got foreign policy to deal with.”

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thedopefishlives  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:21:54pm

re: #267 BeachDem

Also in that interview

The relationship I have with China, it’s been already acclaimed as being something very special, something very different than we’ve ever had.

Uhh, who are these mysterious people who have “acclaimed” his relationship with China?

The voices in his head, natch.

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Interesting Times  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:29:18pm

re: #97 Birth Control Works

@PoliticusSarah

Erick Erickson Says Gays Make People Uncomfortable and Should Expect to be Assaulted

Pasty, racist white men with smug & self-righteous expressions make me uncomfortable. Can I thwack them over the head with a baseball bat? I’m only standing my ground, y’all //

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Joe Bacon  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:33:37pm
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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:36:32pm

For your perusal, a bizarre coincidence from television.

From 1957 to 1959, CBS aired a Western called “Trackdown.” The show was about a Texas Ranger who went from town to town saving people.

en.wikipedia.org

One episode was called “The End of the World.”

imdb.com

In that episode, a travelling snake-oil salesman named Trump offers to save the town by building a wall around it. The character Trump in the episode frequently threatens to sue people. The Ranger has to convince the town that Trump is conning the town. The sheriff doesn’t like the Ranger and will not listen to him telling the sheriff Trump is a known con man.

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:37:35pm

re: #248 Anymouse

Mrs. Betty Bowers‏ @BettyBowers 4h4 hours ago

As America’s most prodigious publisher of lies, Trump is the LAST citizen who should wish to limit #FirstAmendment.

Text did not appear with the video above … Twitter still doesn’t behave correctly on my computer.

Are you clicking on the little blue twitter bird you see in the bottom right hand corner? That opens the text that will then show on top of the image…not below it. That is a feature of twitter it shouldn’t have anything to do with your browser.

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Jay C  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:39:17pm

re: #261 Anymouse

I’m just spitballin’ here, but I don’t think Hillary Clinton would have sent the Border Patrol to the unemployment line …

Probably not, but I think it unlikely that she would have boosted its numbers up, and lowered recruitment standards to (apparently) try to turn it into some sort of neo-Sturmabteilung,

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ObserverArt  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:40:41pm

re: #254 Anymouse

How ‘bout that!

I think VB told you to click on the blue bird a few weeks back. I gots a good memory!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:43:47pm

re: #267 BeachDem

Also in that interview

The relationship I have with China, it’s been already acclaimed as being something very special, something very different than we’ve ever had.

Uhh, who are these mysterious people who have “acclaimed” his relationship with China?

Donald Jr, Eric and Ivanka?

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goddamnedfrank  Apr 30, 2017 • 12:49:37pm

re: #273 ObserverArt

Are you clicking on the little blue twitter bird you see in the bottom right hand corner? That opens the text that will then show on top of the image…not below it. That is a feature of twitter it shouldn’t have anything to do with your browser.

Agreed, it has nothing to do with browser compatibility. I wish Twitter had implemented that better though, pretty sure it confuses most people at first. I’d have made it so the text and time data appeared in a shadow box in the lower third of the still image and then disappear when the play button is pressed.

It’s a basic UX problem, on Twitter itself people almost always read the tweet text before clicking the video. With this embedding scheme they’ve encouraged the reverse, so a lot of people are clicking on the video without knowing the intended context.

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Anymouse  Apr 30, 2017 • 1:01:17pm

re: #275 ObserverArt

I think VB told you to click on the blue bird a few weeks back. I gots a good memory!

I don’t have a good memory. I cultivate my lack of memory.


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