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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Doomcasting — [Explicit Content] The Russian invasion of Ukraine. The misinformation on social media. Our policy for covering the war. Richard Engel’s mistake about Chernobyl. Biden’s statement. Why it’s important to vote for sane, rational leadership in Washington. What this means for Putin. Trump’s praise for Putin and Russia continues. Charlie Kirk’s foreign policy. Tucker Carlson’s confirmation bias. Steve Bannon likes Putin because he’s not woke. Who does Ronny Jackson want to sanction? The New York DA and prosecuting Trump. The 18 other pending legal cases against Trump. With Jody Hamilton and David TRex Ferguson, and music by Ukraine’s Pasha Black. And more!

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228 comments
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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:42:26pm

Biden’s deputy press secretary:

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:42:45pm

I love the fresh thread smell. It’s even better without the ads mucking up the page. Thanks Charles for today’s help in getting my subscription renewed.

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John Hughes  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:43:21pm
Seth Meyers: Trump Praises Putin’s “Genius” and “Savvy” as Ukraine Crisis Worsens

Ukraine “crisis”?

Unprovoked, illegal, invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Maybe “Russia crisis”, but certainly not “Ukraine crisis”.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:44:25pm

Brought up from last thread:

Hostomel/Antonov Airport
(You can zoom it in further.)

google.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:46:32pm

re: #1 Belafon

Biden’s deputy press secretary:

DAYUM! Good on him!

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b.d  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:46:43pm

re: #1 Belafon

Biden’s deputy press secretary:

Damn, he was pretty tough on Putin.

//

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:52:31pm

I was hoping Anonymous would join the party.

The Taiwan News and other sites are reporting that Anonymous hacked a Chinese site (chineseculture.com.cn) and inserted a page detailing its compromise of a Russian device as a “warning shot.”

The hacktivist stated, “Anonymous will formally attack Russian websites or devices later” in retaliation for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:52:51pm

Assuming Ukraine has been testing the javelins on accurate depictions of caged Russian tanks, this could be good news for the effectiveness of those missiles.

Youtube Video

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HypnoToad  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:52:55pm

re: #4 ckkatz

Brought up from last thread:

Hostomel/Antonev Airport
(You can zoom it in further.)

google.com

Single runway without a full length parallel taxiway and limited road access; should be easy to block/disable that airport. The international apt. on the opposite side of Kyiv has more ramp space and better access—it’s also slightly closer to the city center. That makes it more likely the place for an assault to establish a bridgehead near the city.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:53:48pm

re: #3 John Hughes

Ukraine “crisis”?

Unprovoked, illegal, invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Maybe “Russia crisis”, but certainly not “Ukraine crisis”.

Seth’s video was recorded before the invasion.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:55:15pm
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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:56:42pm

re: #8 GlutenFreeJesus

Assuming Ukraine has been testing the javelins on accurate depictions of caged Russian tanks, this could be good news for the effectiveness of those missiles.

From 2021:

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Speaking purely as an armchair pacifist, I do hope the Javelins have a 90% or better success rate. But I fear that if they inflict too much damage Putin will go straight to war crimes and begin carpet bombing.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:57:28pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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I guess their cries of “WE’RE THE REAL VICTIMS HERE!!!” didn’t impress the judge much.

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:57:54pm

re: #11 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Good. Start holding parents accountable and you’ll start seeing parents a little more attentive to their children’s access to guns.

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Ming5000  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:58:53pm

I am only going to look at video/pictures of Putin forces destroyed. I am not going to watch general Ukrainian fleeing, damage, etc..
It may make me a hypocrite, but I have to firewall my rage and sadness.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 2:59:10pm

re: #8 GlutenFreeJesus

Javelins fire a missile that arcs upward and then attack the target from above almost straight down. Tanks by nature are generally weak to this.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:01:09pm

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:03:10pm

re: #12 darthstar

Speaking purely as an armchair pacifist, I do hope the Javelins have a 90% or better success rate. But I fear that if they inflict too much damage Putin will go straight to war crimes and begin carpet bombing.

According to the Google, both Lithuania and Latvia have sent them Stinger SAMs.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:05:21pm

re: #14 darthstar

Good. Start holding parents accountable and you’ll start seeing parents a little more attentive to their children’s access to guns.

What doesn’t seem to be helping their case is that every time the prosecution presents new evidence, it just furthers the picture of a pair of shitheels that were more focused on their own problems than their kid:

“Now my mom thinks I take drugs,” reads one text, according to prosecutors. “She thinks that’s the reason why I’m so mad and sad all the time, and she doesn’t worry about my mental health. They make me feel like I’m the problem.”

Another text shows Ethan Crumbley indicating that he had asked his father to take him to the doctor, but he refused.

“He just gave me some pills and told me to suck it up,” the text read, according to prosecutors.

Gee, I can’t imagine how these two could be Trump supporters.///////

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:06:54pm

re: #14 darthstar

Good. Start holding parents accountable and you’ll start seeing parents a little more attentive to their children’s access to guns.

You’d think wanting their children to live and to not murder anyone would be reason enough, but it clearly isn’t.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:08:15pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

What doesn’t seem to be helping their case is that every time the prosecution presents new evidence, it just furthers the picture of a pair of shitheels that were more focused on their own problems than their kid:

Gee, I can’t imagine how these two could be Trump supporters.///////

Why didn’t he shoot his parents, rather than innocent students at his school? They’re the problem.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:08:29pm

re: #20 Punish Domestic Terrorists

You’d think wanting their children to live and to not murder anyone would be reason enough, but it clearly isn’t.

People like that think their kids are a burden. I truly believe they will be glad to be free of him, even at the expense of their own freedom.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:08:32pm

Psychotic.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:10:26pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

What doesn’t seem to be helping their case is that every time the prosecution presents new evidence, it just furthers the picture of a pair of shitheels that were more focused on their own problems than their kid:

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Gee, I can’t imagine how these two could be Trump supporters.///////

After my middle son went off to college, my youngest son started feeling alone. He didn’t tell us, but he told his friends that he was trying to hurt himself because he felt unwanted. After one of their moms came and told us, we made some pretty quick changes to how we were interacting with him.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:14:06pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:14:34pm

re: #22 GlutenFreeJesus

People like that think their kids are a burden. I truly believe they will be glad to be feee of him, even at the expense of their own freedom.

Given the revelations about their financial situation and how much time they were devoting to their own desires, I’ve a strong suspicion that all they saw when he came to them with his mental issues was doctor bills they couldn’t afford and time spent looking after him rather than doing what they wanted.

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:16:05pm

re: #16 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Javelins fire a missile that arcs upward and then attack the target from above almost straight down. Tanks by nature are generally weak to this.

So those explosive plates on the front of Russian tanks to deflect artillery are worthless. I’m okay with that.

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:18:55pm

Also, the oh shit factor has to be intense.

And I see where it got its name.

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JC1  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:19:23pm

re: #12 darthstar

Speaking purely as an armchair pacifist, I do hope the Javelins have a 90% or better success rate. But I fear that if they inflict too much damage Putin will go straight to war crimes and begin carpet bombing.

Russians don’t see Ukrainians as ‘others’ (brown people, scary religion, etc.); They see them as cousins. Not sure how much the Russian public would support war crimes in Ukraine. Maybe Putin will be stopped from within.

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:20:02pm

re: #29 JC1

Russians don’t see Ukrainians as ‘others’ (brown people, scary religion, etc.); They see them as cousins. Not sure how much the Russian public would support war crimes in Ukraine. Maybe Putin will be stopped from within.

That’s the best solution.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:20:17pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:25:04pm

re: #23 jaunte

MrBWS asked “who is he talking about?”
Me: “us”.
Him: “Whaaaa?”
Me: “people NOT like them..that ‘us’.”
more Cruz blather:
MrBWS: “He’s partially right. I’d like to destroy him right about now..”

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:26:42pm

re: #29 JC1

Russians don’t see Ukrainians as ‘others’ (brown people, scary religion, etc.); They see them as cousins. Not sure how much the Russian public would support war crimes in Ukraine. Maybe Putin will be stopped from within.

Hence the subterfuge and the deliberate strong-arming of the military into becoming “contract soldiers” while also confiscating their phones and other mobile devices, the need to maintain total control over all information coming from the front lines on the Russian side.

This isn’t Chechnya where they can BS the populace that they’re uncivilized savages who must be put down with uncompromising force, these are their brothers/cousins who they wish to bring back into the fold. Which is why they’re emphasizing that their targets are the government and the military, because they want to convince people that the civilians are simply “victims” of Zelensky and others.

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Ming5000  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:31:06pm

Ukrainians have had the difficult and tragic history where something like this is a thing.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:37:52pm

re: #12 darthstar

Speaking purely as an armchair pacifist, I do hope the Javelins have a 90% or better success rate. But I fear that if they inflict too much damage Putin will go straight to war crimes and begin carpet bombing.

well, they’ll never know if they don’t try. and I’m pretty sure if they go to carpet bombing, NATO will go to “okay, we tried to stay out of this, but there are war crimes being committed. Here, let us fuck you in the ass with 100 coalition divisions, and massive air cover.”

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:38:31pm

Thousands protesting in the streets despite knowing they’ll face arrest and we’re not even 48 hours into open fighting. That does not bode well for the Russian gov’t.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:40:49pm

re: #15 Ming5000

I am only going to look at video/pictures of Putin forces destroyed. I am not going to watch general Ukrainian fleeing, damage, etc..
It may make me a hypocrite, but I have to firewall my rage and sadness.

I know, I feel the same way. And I understand that yes, there were people in the tanks who often had no desire to be there. And I also understand that if you’ve ever seen Fury, or read Pliever’s Stalingrad, you know they really do have to wash the last guys out before they can recondition salvageable tanks.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:44:52pm
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A Cranky One  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:49:01pm

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:49:51pm

re: #39 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

No, you’ll know it’s bad when Waffle House closes its locations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:50:43pm

re: #34 Ming5000

Ukrainians have had the difficult and tragic history where something like this is a thing.

[Embedded content]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:51:38pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Captain Magic  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:53:00pm

Thus spake the mooch:

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:53:54pm

According to ABC Evening News, more than 1700 have been detained protesting.

Edit: it was in Russia, if you didn’t get the location. I forgot to add that in my haste.

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EPR-radar  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:53:57pm

re: #40 steve_davis

No, you’ll know it’s bad when Waffle House closes its locations.

That reminds me of the old question “How do we know WWII was total war?”

A: Each side broke the other side’s copyrights.

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BeachDem  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:55:44pm

re: #42 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That lady and Jennifer Rubin should be a tag team. Jennifer’s questions the media should be asking Republicans:

Is Putin a war criminal? Would you reject a political leader who praised him? Is such a person fit to be commander in chief?

Is Putin a “genius”? Are you comfortable that Russian state networks think remarks from Trump-acolytes are so effective that they air them on TV?

How can you criticize President Biden for being weak when Trump appeased Putin for four years and still roots for him?

Why did you not stand up to Trump during his presidency when he attempted to extort Ukraine and so often sided with Putin? Was that “America First”?

How can you call yourself an advocate of a strong U.S. foreign policy if you’d support Trump for president again?

Don’t you think fawning over Putin gives him the impression that the West is divided? Doesn’t this aid his invasion?

washingtonpost.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:57:22pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

What’s the white cloth around the Russian soldier’s leg signify? Anyone?

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Jay C  Feb 24, 2022 • 3:57:55pm

re: #44 Belafon

According to ABC Evening News, more than 1700 have been detained protesting.

Dunno about Mooch’s “ass-kicking” prediction (though I fervently hope he’s correct), but Russia isn’t normally the sort of place where spontaneous demonstrations just pop up….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:02:56pm

re: #39 A Cranky One

[Embedded content]

But what about the Waffle Houses?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:03:40pm

Reminder that Putin passed a law last year that could potentially keep him in power until 2036.

Somehow, I have my doubts he’ll get there.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:05:09pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder that Putin passed a law last year that could potentially keep him in power until 2036.

Somehow, I have my doubts he’ll get there.

From your lips to the Mother’s ear.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:08:30pm

re: #34 Ming5000

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:09:19pm

re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg

Reminder that Putin passed a law last year that could potentially keep him in power until 2036.

Somehow, I have my doubts he’ll get there.

Now taking wagers on how many days until Putin is hanging upside down in Red Square with his balls stuffed in his mouth. The Over/Under is 15 days.

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mmmirele  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:10:20pm

I’ve seen a number of comments about how “some people” have become experts on the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication aka SWIFT. However, I suspect 99 percent of those people don’t have a job where they have to pull up a consolidated screen with transaction flows on it for monitoring purposes, and a few of those flows are for SWIFT. Let me just say that when there are problems with SWIFT, it’s a really bad day at work.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:11:16pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:11:49pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

But what about the Waffle Houses?

The index is based on Waffle House’s reputation for having good disaster preparedness and staying open during extreme weather or reopening quickly afterwards.

If you get there and the Waffle House is closed? That’s really bad…[8]

— Craig Fugate, Former Head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency

en.wikipedia.org

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:12:09pm

re: #54 mmmirele

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garzooma  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:12:59pm

re: #53 Florida Panhandler

Now taking wagers on how many days until Putin is hanging upside down in Red Square with his balls stuffed in his mouth. The Over/Under is 15 days.

Where’s Marshal Zhukov when you need him? He knew how to deal with KGB shits:

YouTube

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jeffreyw  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:13:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:15:17pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:17:28pm

re: #58 garzooma

Where’s Marshal Zhukov when you need him? He knew how to deal with KGB shits:

[Embedded content]

Video

Jason Isaacs was so great in that movie.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:18:28pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

But what about the Waffle Houses?

You are too late, my friend! This is a crowd that lets no good zingers pass it by for very long.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:20:27pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

This goes back to a discussion had earlier today about possible resistance against Russian occupation. The idea that people who are lining up right now to fight back against the invasion would simply throw down their arms and welcome their new overlords if a puppet government orders it is looking more and more far-fetched. If Russia decides to occupy the country, they’re in it for the long haul.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:21:34pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

I didn’t catch any of that but at the end I recognize that Well Fuck You tone.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:22:52pm

re: #63 Targetpractice

This goes back to a discussion had earlier today about possible resistance against Russian occupation. The idea that people who are lining up right now to fight back against the invasion would simply throw down their arms and welcome their new overlords if a puppet government orders it is looking more and more far-fetched. If Russia decides to occupy the country, they’re in it for the long haul.

At this point, they’d really better hope they take out the government, because if they suffer even a thousand dead before returning with their tail between their legs, Putin will have some uncomfortable moments.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:23:39pm

Given the conscription, the “cousins” aspect and a common language, I wonder how big a problem desertions will become for the Russian army after a week of this?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:23:43pm
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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:25:14pm

re: #53 Florida Panhandler

Now taking wagers on how many days until Putin is hanging upside down in Red Square with his balls stuffed in his mouth. The Over/Under is 15 days.

Hopefully before he gets a chance to push the red button.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:25:49pm

re: #64 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I didn’t catch any of that but at the end I recognize that Well Fuck You tone.

so did we before I found the translation!

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:34:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:35:55pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:36:26pm

re: #65 steve_davis

At this point, they’d really better hope they take out the government, because if they suffer even a thousand dead before returning with their tail between their legs, Putin will have some uncomfortable moments.

That’s just it, they’re gonna be committed to an open-ended occupation if they choose to depose the existing government in favor of a pack of quislings. Between how Vlad’s handled elections back home and the open efforts in the past 2 decades to influence Ukrainian elections, nobody but the truly naive are gonna accept any votes taken under Russian occupation as legit. Which means months or even years of keeping Russian troops in-country until they can stand up a large enough force of loyal Ukrainian troops willing to replace them.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:37:31pm

THREAD

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Ming5000  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:47:20pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth
“She filmed it.”

Whoa…. she knew it was risky.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:48:29pm

On a non-war note, I thought you all might enjoy this poem I wrote some months ago for a gender fluid friend of mine:

DEFENDER

A lot of folks don’t understand you.
That’s their problem and not yours.
You might live a little differently
But you’re still human to the core.

They will say abrasive, awful things
They will yell and scream and curse,
But if they’re out to hurt you,
Then they’ll have to beat me first.

If they’re trying to snuff your light out,
Or send panic through your bones.
Then I’m gearing up and rolling out.
You’re not fighting this alone.

Don’t let ‘em chain you down with fear,
Or sow you full of doubt.
Burn your haunted house away,
And drive the ghosts right out.

I assure you, I’m fast and and nimble
And I can really throw a punch.
So let them try and take me down,
I’ll thrash the entire bunch.

I’m fighting for a person.
I’m fighting for a heart.
I’m fighting for a vibrant soul
I won’t let get torn apart.

I won’t give up that battle,
As long as I can breathe,
Because I know that you are worth it
And in truth and justice, I believe.

So in the brightest light of day,
Or the darkest depth of night.
Call me if you ever need me.
I’m always ready for a fight.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:51:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:54:35pm

My grandfather was Rom and I actually am not outraged about this workshop because I am very familiar with those particular “gypsies”.
They may or may not be Rom but they are most definitely con artists and thieves.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 4:56:00pm

This will be the Ukrainian version of General McAuliffe reply of NUTS when German forces demanded his surrender. All 13 members of the unit were killed in the bombardment.

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wrenchwench  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:01:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:01:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:05:34pm

I was a big fan of Tears for Fears back in the day but I have to admit their new music doesn’t really do it for me. I wanted to like it, I was ready to like it, but I don’t really like it much.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:09:41pm

re: #70 gocart mozart

It was worse than that. Gregorovich Kelliski said during that unhinged rant:

1. Get rid of term limits
2. Implied just having a dictator so they don’t have to “bother campaigning every couple of years”
3. He apparently think Xi Jingping has been in power for like 20 years… because he’s a fucking moron.*
4. Implied Biden, GW Bush, and Clinton were “clownish amateurs” but Clownstick was a “pro”

I can name off the top of my head the 3 leaders of the PRC before Xi. I bet Gregorvich would have to look it up.

Deng Xiaoping, Jing Zemin and Hu Jintao… btw

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:12:08pm

I just realized it would have been fucking hilarious if Hu Jintao was still running China during the Clownshow.

“President Who?”
“Hu”
“Yes that’s what I’m asking who?”
“Right.”

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:13:30pm

re: #83 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

That is as good as the old “Who is on First?”

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:14:06pm

One of the greatest treasures of the world and history
In 1989, Iraqi archaeologist Muzahim Mahmoud discovered the tombs of three Assyrian queens in the palace of the Assyrian king Ashurnasirpal in the city of Nimrud Kalho in the Nineveh Governorate in northern Iraq.

wondersofthepast.quora.com

Glorious! It helps to have something beautiful to look at.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:15:31pm

re: #85 retired cynic

Yes, it is beautiful.

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:18:00pm

Fuck.

My sister called me. I knew that meant dad’s on the downhill slope. Doctors say he’s in level 4/5 of Parkinsons. Can’t move himself. Can’t eat. Can’t control his bowel.

Flying down Saturday to say goodbye. Or tomorrow if shit goes downhill overnight.

I just want him to stop suffering. His brain is still as fuckin’ sharp as ever, so I know he’s feeling tortured.

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PhillyPretzel  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:19:29pm

re: #87 darthstar

You and your father are in my prayers.

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Jay C  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:21:35pm

re: #85 retired cynic

Not only aesthetically pleasing - but amazing to consider it was crafted using what we would think of as incredibly crude technology.
But of course, jewelry has always been the exception….

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darthstar  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:22:43pm

re: #88 PhillyPretzel

Thanks. I can put up with family craziness for a few days to say goodbye, but it’s going to be a fuckin’ nightmare. Booking myself a hotel room so I have a place to decompress…and a car.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:22:45pm
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JC1  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:24:03pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

My grandfather was Rom and I actually am not outraged about this workshop because I am very familiar with those particular “gypsies”.
They may or may not be Rom but they are most definitely con artists and thieves.

My grandmother warned me about gypsy women. I still have a thing for brunettes.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:40:06pm

I hope someone in his newly drawn district opposes sedition.

Challenges seeking to bar U.S. Rep. Madison Cawthorn from running for reelection cannot move forward as long as Cawthorn remains a candidate in the district he filed in, which has now been moved halfway across the state, the N.C. State Board of Elections said Thursday.

Challenges to Madison Cawthorn can’t proceed under new district, elections board says (News & Observer)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:40:21pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:40:55pm
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bratwurst  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:42:55pm

Fuck.
This.
Shit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:43:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:44:35pm

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:45:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:45:54pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

Taking his snowball and going home, is he?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:47:27pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:48:50pm

re: #96 bratwurst

Fuck.
This.
Shit.

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Jay C  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:49:46pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

So Inhofe is retiring?
One the one hand, good fucking riddance.
On the other hand, it’s Oklahoma: who knows what sort of disgraceful GOP hack is likely to replace him?

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:49:59pm

re: #87 darthstar

You and your father are in my thoughts. Peace be upon you.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:51:27pm

re: #87 darthstar

Sorry Man.. Seriously. I’ve been thru it already. You know this family is here for you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:51:49pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:53:23pm

re: #103 Jay C

As bad as Inhofe was, he still was not of the burn-down-gov’t-at-all-costs type of right-wing hack that MTG is, for example. Inhofe would go along with funding bills, etc. Sure, he made his money with this gig, but most Senators do.

Given it’s Oklahoma, I’d expect the next person to be a religious right fanatic, and unlike Inhofe may go all in with the Trump-wing extremists.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:53:48pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is some PLAIIOS!S!!S!!! coming out of Bannon’s pie hole.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:54:31pm

Love you, Darth.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 5:56:08pm
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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:05:27pm

So the Witcher ending was one I didn’t see coming.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:07:30pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Interesting, but Taibbi still sucks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:11:18pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:11:18pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

As if “western misbehavior” is within an order of magnitude of the shit dictators like Putin do… He’s STILL both-sides-ing things even in this “apology”.

Get fucked Taibbi.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:11:40pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:12:18pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:18:42pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

There was a time when Matt Taibbi was a respectable and thoughtful reporter. He lost that credibility over the years, maybe he is hoping to regain that status and is reforming. We will have to wait and see his next comments on this tragedy.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:18:54pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:23:50pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

There was a time when Matt Taibbi was a respectable and thoughtful reporter. He lost that credibility over the years, maybe he is hoping to regain that status and is reforming. We will have see his next comments on this tragedy.

I expect him to make this Hillary Clinton’s fault somehow before it’s over.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:24:26pm

re: #118 Belafon

Isn’t this “Trucker Convoy” like… 8 trucks too?

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wrenchwench  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:24:29pm

re: #108 The Pie Overlord!

PLAIIOS!S!!S!!!

I was absent that day. Could you please tell me what this means?

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:26:06pm

Video of Russian forces at the Chernobyl site

Youtube Video

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:29:58pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:32:05pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Putin’s Olympic visit paying off. So much for China’s “one world, one people” message.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:34:21pm

re: #117 Hecuba’s daughter

There was a time when Matt Taibbi was a respectable and thoughtful reporter. He lost that credibility over the years, maybe he is hoping to regain that status and is reforming. We will have see his next comments on this tragedy.

I doubt it, but who knows? Stranger things have happened.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:34:27pm

re: #121 wrenchwench

I was absent that day. Could you please tell me what this means?

PLAIIOS!S!!S!!! = Projecting Like An IMAX In Outer Space! SPAACE!! SPAAACE!!!

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:36:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:37:01pm

spinning, spinning, spinning…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:37:37pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

Kyiv will “fall”, But IMHO, it’ll turn into a Stalingrad moment for Putin. He’s forgetting/ignoring his history lessons. These people will fight, and die for their Country. Please see see post up thread.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:39:45pm
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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:40:14pm

re: #128 Backwoods_Sleuth

If only Ukraine hadn’t been thinking about wearing that provocative dress.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:42:16pm

re: #106 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The USSR had three votes in the General Assembly BECAUSE they asserted that Ukraine was a different country in free association with the Soviet Union.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:48:52pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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The USSR had three votes in the General Assembly BECAUSE they asserted that Ukraine was a different country in free association with the Soviet Union.

I did not know/remember this. Thanks. (and many future updings).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:51:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:53:06pm
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No Malarkey!  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:53:55pm

Republican on education.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:54:14pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Taibbi is still a jerk. Look at his articles at that link.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:55:22pm

re: #133 I Would Prefer Not To

I did not know/remember this. Thanks. (and many future updings).

Ukraine and the United Nations

Ukraine signed the Charter of the United Nations as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic on 26 June 1945 and came into force on 24 October 1945. Ukraine was among the first countries that signed the United Nations Charter, becoming a founding member of the United Nations among 51 countries. This provided the Soviet Union (a permanent Security Council member with veto powers) with another vote in the General Assembly.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:56:08pm

re: #120 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I left this out:

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 6:57:08pm

re: #139 Belafon

How many embedded NYT reporters?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:00:03pm

re: #140 jaunte

How many embedded NYT reporters?

one for each truck and spare.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:00:58pm

re: #87 darthstar

Fuck.

My sister called me. I knew that meant dad’s on the downhill slope. Doctors say he’s in level 4/5 of Parkinsons. Can’t move himself. Can’t eat. Can’t control his bowel.

Flying down Saturday to say goodbye. Or tomorrow if shit goes downhill overnight.

I just want him to stop suffering. His brain is still as fuckin’ sharp as ever, so I know he’s feeling tortured.

I’ve got a 72 yo friend with Parkinsons who’s going to be in town from CA in early March for his husband’s grandmother’s memorial service (she lived to 101). This is probably the couple’s last trip back home to MN (his partner is blind so they can’t travel without a caretaker). Last time I talked to him was on his birthday in January. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know who I was. It was a one minute conversation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:03:05pm

niterz. lizardz!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:06:50pm

Yep.

bXNPRkdldzhPRCtGV2FXcTF6WjBYT3ViZlJtUDB0ZnVmM2FsOC9LdmpDTHE1QlVqbVJrOVR1TCtaTE50RUhsL1NlTnV2QXlpeHo4ME5RR0RISEYwamFSOWFuUXRNakZWU1p3aXdLUXVtM2J4M2dJUU5wT1RHMkVtUHZVdC9xRVVjMnZxRzJnVTQ5ZFVCVUdLVWk3ajVBWlIva1RnUTZIM25RRmxyNDZUdmRFPTo6zXB1uLcj1KONTAP6690QyQ==

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Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:07:11pm

Don’t know…..
americanmilitarynews.com

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Jay C  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:07:34pm

re: #114 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

As if “western misbehavior” is within an order of magnitude of the shit dictators like Putin do… He’s STILL both-sides-ing things even in this “apology”.

Get fucked Taibbi.

Quite agree. For whatever reason, I was just browsing Rod Dreher’s blather on the Russia/Ukraine shit over at TAC, and it’s pretty much the same BS: like “Well, Putin’s invasion is bad, wrong, and criminally unjustified, but WE (mainly “The West”) aren’t entirely blameless…” because reasons…..
Usually crap about NATO or “decadence”….

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:07:48pm

The hosts of the SAV website have been silent for the past 3 days. 4 days ago Vaxman announced that he had COVID but hoped to be back the next day. He admitted that Omicron made him sicker than he had ever been before but was grateful that he was fully vaxxed. Not a word since then.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:11:18pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Both hugging and the standoffish dad have been around for millions of years.

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:15:17pm

re: #127 gocart mozart

Let’s just see what happens in the next six months.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:15:46pm

re: #133 I Would Prefer Not To

I did not know/remember this. Thanks. (and many future updings).

Yep they put the Byelorussian SSR and Ukrainian SSR in the UN as separate countries.
They justified it by allowing them to have some foreign relations outside of USSR foreign policy, and allowing each to have it’s own “army” (in dick quotes). It was of course all a sham in classic Russian bullshittery.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:16:57pm

re: #146 Jay C

Quite agree. For whatever reason, I was just browsing Rod Dreher’s blather on the Russia/Ukraine shit over at TAC, and it’s pretty much the same BS: like “Well, Putin’s invasion is bad, wrong, and criminally unjustified, but WE (mainly “The West”) aren’t entirely blameless…” because reasons…..
Usually crap about NATO or “decadence”….

It’s classic Russian whataboutism.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:17:45pm

rather enjoyed the Kingsman. fuck ‘em for not giving actual credit to the best of the British war poets.

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gocart mozart  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:18:16pm

Mocha Joe with the retort.

Youtube Video

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:21:01pm

re: #153 gocart mozart

This reminds me…

Larry David is doing cryptocurrency commercials now. It was funny at the beginning when I didn’t notice what it was for. Then I noticed.

He’s fucking dead to me now.

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Jay C  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:23:23pm

re: #154 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

This reminds me…

Larry David is doing cryptocurrency commercials now. It was funny at the beginning when I didn’t notice what it was for. Then I noticed.

He’s fucking dead to me now.

Inorite,?
I saw that one on the Super Bowl the first time, and my only thought was “I hope Larry got paid for this crap in *real* money…”

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:24:29pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:26:43pm

I got to the point of just grouping Matt Taibbi with assholes like this:

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:28:14pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:28:27pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

Matt Taibbi - “focused on western misbehavior” should have NEVER given a tyrant like Putin the benefit of the doubt for ANYTHING. Fuckin’ useful idiot. Could have done plenty of stories on Russian oligarchs and corruption - there is no comparison.

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Belafon  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:31:20pm

The youth are already making the same Cold War jokes we were making when I was a kid.

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steve_davis  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:32:35pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Yep.

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fuck, if I was filming and saw that happen, I’d be breathing hard afterwards as well. that definitely would kick-start the adrenaline.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:36:27pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Yep.

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Made me think of the Tianjin and Beruit chemical explosions.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:37:32pm

re: #159 BlueSpotinAL

Matt Taibbi - “focused on western misbehavior” should have NEVER given a tyrant like Putin the benefit of the doubt for ANYTHING. Fuckin’ useful idiot. Could have done plenty of stories on Russian oligarchs and corruption - there is no comparison.

Most people know jack and shit about Russian oligarchs because the American media cant be assed to report on them, but we sure do know a lot of made up bullshit about the Clintons and Bidens.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:39:16pm

A pilot is having a very bad night

Youtube Video

ETA: Looks like it’s the same one as the video Shiplord Kirel posted

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Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:41:51pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:43:55pm

re: #163 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Most people know jack and shit about Russian oligarchs because the American media cant be assed to report on them, but we sure do know a lot of made up bullshit about the Clintons and Bidens.

Taibbi certainly knew better than most. He made his career out of chastising the American financial services industry, but he chose not to focus on people equally if not more heinous in Russia. We’ve all speculated why, but his apology seems to be evidence that it was personal issues rather Russia having something on him.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:44:43pm

re: #165 Dave In Austin

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The Battle of Snake Island is already in Wiki.

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Teddy's Person  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:46:39pm
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No Malarkey!  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:47:25pm

If this is true a Russian army with rock bottom morale is going to find rough going in Ukraine.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:49:33pm

re: #169 No Malarkey!

If this is true a Russian army with rock bottom morale is going to find rough going in Ukraine.

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I have a real hard time believing this but… I sure as fuck hope it’s true.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:50:44pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:54:28pm

With the exception of “reopening Keystone”, because it wasn’t built yet there’s nothing to reopen, and fuck Canada for yet again trying to make *their* pipeline spills our problem…

I agree 100% with the rest of this thread. Cut them out of *everything* to complete isolation and then ignore them so hard they question their own existence.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:54:30pm

re: #169 No Malarkey!

If this is true a Russian army with rock bottom morale is going to find rough going in Ukraine.

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There was the retaking of the airport outside of Kiyv from elite Russian paratroopers as well.

And this:

and from a week ago as Ukrainians got ready:

It’s a hornet nest.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 24, 2022 • 7:58:35pm

I know too many disabled people who are tankies.

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sagehen  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:00:07pm

Until this week, I never realized Ukranians were so fucking badass.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:00:14pm

re: #144 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:01:45pm

re: #175 sagehen

Until this week, I never realized Ukranians were so fucking badass.

There’s a lot of people out there who can be serious bad asses when a desperate situation calls for it.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:04:34pm
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:05:13pm

About three weeks ago we had an ice storm event (with snow). By the time we got up at 5am, there were already multiple reports of cars sliding off roads locally. My wife asked to cancel her morning client, a bed-ridden French-Canadian woman. The company called the family and they said it was ok, she could re-do on Saturday. Then later that day the company sent out an email emphatically thanking the caregivers who had taken risks to get to their clients.

That day was the first day my wife ever was so afraid to drive that she declined. She has driven on bad two-lane roads in blizzards, but she didn’t want to do ice. There were never mass emails thanking people before. It may have been a fluke (probably), but she took it personally.

So, snow is supposed to start here around 3am; between 7 and 10am we’re supposed to get over an inch an hour, and it will continue until about 8pm. Wife didn’t want to drive, but didn’t want to cancel. The son of the client drives a big pick-up with a plow, so at first the idea was that I would drop her off (it’s about 10 miles from here) in the morning and the son would drive her home. But she got scared of me driving when there would already be at least 5” on the road. I told her that the plows would be out and the main roads passable. She instead called the family and asked if I could drop her off tonight to spend the night, and then the son with the big truck could get her home. So, for her $15/hr pay she is spending the night all to not be shamed for not traveling in a storm. She still only gets the 4 morning hours that she is scheduled for.

I have some issues with her employer and they need to rethink their “in all weather” policy. But I went in with my wife and the first thing we saw was the elderly husband holding on to the countertop. He said, “today I went to l’hospital and ze doctor he give me blood thinner; I have no strength. Merci for your wife to stay tonight.”

She remembers her clients’ birthdays and brings flowers and sometimes candy. I know she sometimes breaks rules to do more than is allowed, but she was raised by her grandmother and has always enjoyed the company of elderly people.

Anyway, lonely tonight, but due to cancellations I won’t have to get up at 5am. Unless the dog bounds up the stairs, leaps onto the bed, and sits her 60# on my head to let me know it’s time for food and a walksie.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:12:26pm

re: #118 Belafon

The leadership grabbing up all the funds and not ‘trickling’ anything down to the ‘cannon-fodder’ seemed to happen in the Ottawa occupation as well.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:14:08pm

re: #123 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

I wonder what kind of discount the Chinese got from the Russians.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:17:11pm

Also the original “Hot Lips Houlihan” from M*A*S*H (movie) (Nominated—Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress)

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:18:35pm

re: #168 Teddy’s Person

So did Obama. Those photos of the two of them make that quite clear.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:19:02pm

re: #145 Dave In Austin

Don’t know…..
americanmilitarynews.com

There was reportedly a small reconnaissance section that surrendered to the Ukrainians. I think that they are referring to that incident.

The NCO in charge was interviewed on video. He was kind of down on the whole military adventure into Ukraine thing. I suspect that he will regret that interview if he makes it back to Putin’s Russia.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:21:06pm

re: #182 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:22:46pm

Corruption kills.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:28:18pm

re: #185 Punish Domestic Terrorists

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I may have told this story before, but my junior high church youth group took a trip to stay a weekend in a church in south Chicago. Our hapless most Reverend (I loved this guy) promised that after volunteering at a homeless ministry we would get to go to a movie. There was only one theater in walking distance and they were showing “MASH” (Altman’s). I don’t know how he got about 15 thirteen-year-olds in, but it was quite an experience.

ETA: it was called “youth club.” Later “youth club” became a go-to place for information on parties and how to get nickle and dime bags. Late ’70s, early ’80s, so you know the vibe—terry cloth, etc.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:29:53pm

re: #47 GlutenFreeJesus

What’s the white cloth around the Russian soldier’s leg signify? Anyone?

The white cloth is probably white engineer tape. It comes in long rolls and is used to mark paths, minefields, etc. It can be tied in pieces on barbed wire so that soldiers dont walk into it at night.

In this case, I suspect that it is being used as recognition device, to identify members of a specific unit.

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sagehen  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:29:58pm

Julia Ioffe is on Colbert tonight.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:31:58pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

Lt Col Vindman (ret) mentioned this incident on MSNBC this evening. So there may be an element of truth to it.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:33:33pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:34:15pm

Stephanie Ruhl is on The 11th Hour talking about sanctions.
The Russians have their own lesser adopted SWIFT like system that would be adopted by anyone who still wants to trade with Russia if they get thrown off of SWIFT.

It seems to be a pointless exercise that would leave us weaker and Russia more powerful.

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:35:46pm

There is always that one guy:

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:44:42pm

Likely : google.com

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:51:28pm

re: #116 gocart mozart

If the Russians can’t take Kyiv, Putin’s gonna be in big trouble. Such failures can prove deadly to dictators, as it starts making some mid-level military brass types think that leadership is either incompetent or has royally fucked up the situation.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:51:54pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 8:56:36pm

re: #196 jaunte

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:04:49pm

” … “U.S. District Judge James Donato told a lawyer representing the former president that while technology and law might change and evolve, ‘one thing that’s been more or less a constant going back 20 years is that private companies like Twitter are not subject to the First Amendment,’” Courthouse News reports.

Judge Donato made the statement Thursday during a hearing in San Francisco on Twitter’s motion to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Trump last year, seeking the reinstatement of his account. According to Courthouse News, Donato signaled “a strong inclination” to rule in favor of Twitter’s motion.

“You’ve got a mountain of law saying ‘no’ to your First Amendment claim. It’s not clear to me how you are traversing that,” Donato told Trump attorney Marie Fiala.

Trump’s attorneys have argued that Twitter acted in concert with Democratic lawmakers to ban him, thereby making the company a “state actor.” But Donato rejected that claim.

“It’s perfectly fine for a politician to express dissatisfaction with conduct. I’m not looking for what a Democrat said at a committee hearing but an actual threat,” Donato said. “We’re talking express threats of government prosecution, some kind of criminal sanction, a taking.”

He added that as alleged by Trump, “the threat factor seems pretty low.”

“I read, reread and read again your complaint and I’m not seeing any coercive statements by state actors and that is the hook you are hanging your hat on,” Donato said, according to a report on the hearing from Bloomberg. … “

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:08:54pm

re: #186 jaunte

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:11:10pm

re: #190 ckkatz

Lt Col Vindman (ret) mentioned this incident on MSNBC this evening. So there may be an element of truth to it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:12:08pm

I am just overwhelmed with pessimism about the outcome of this conflict.

The Poles fought valiantly too against the armies of Germany and Russia, with no outside help. They lasted 26 days. I do not see this ending well for the good guys; based on their history, the Russian military is likely to have no restrictions on its use of force against civilian populations. The anecdotes that suggest a lack of enthusiasm for this war are just that — anecdotes; there is no reason to expect that such attitudes are prevalent among the military forces. They will be brutal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:13:48pm

re: #200 ckkatz

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stpaulbear  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:15:10pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

If the Russians can’t take Kyiv, Putin’s gonna be in big trouble. Such failures can prove deadly to dictators, as it starts making some mid-level military brass types think that leadership is either incompetent or has royally fucked up the situation.

Putin realizing that he’s fucked up + access to nukes scares the crap out of me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:16:39pm

re: #203 stpaulbear

If he nukes Ukraine, someone bombs Moscow in retaliation. No way Vlad wants that.

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:18:17pm

re: #204 Eclectic Cyborg

I think all of us wonder just how rational he is.

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William Lewis  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:19:12pm

re: #195 Dr Lizardo

If the Russians can’t take Kyiv, Putin’s gonna be in big trouble. Such failures can prove deadly to dictators, as it starts making some mid-level military brass types think that leadership is either incompetent or has royally fucked up the situation.

I think it’s more likely that they’ll take it, mostly, but not be able to hold it. A little village on the Volga river comes to mind… ;)

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:20:42pm

re: #206 William Lewis

I think it’s more likely that they’ll take it, mostly, but not be able to hold it. A little village on the Volga river comes to mind… ;)

They’ll take control of the city in principle, but in reality they’re looking at days or even weeks of urban warfare that has to be handled delicately if they want anything to be left standing when it’s all over.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:20:52pm

re: #206 William Lewis

I think it’s more likely that they’ll take it, mostly, but not be able to hold it. A little village on the Volga river comes to mind… ;)

The “battlefield math” post in 178 makes this likely.

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:24:37pm


“Putin is a dickhead”
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:26:21pm

re: #209 jaunte

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:30:04pm

re: #200 ckkatz

I’ve seen that too. Speculation is that he or she might be flying out of a nearby NATO airfield.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:31:07pm

re: #211 Dr Lizardo

I’ve seen that too. Speculation is that he or she might be flying out of a nearby NATO airfield.

If it was a woman flying that plane…holy shit that would be incredible.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:32:01pm

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:32:17pm

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

I am just overwhelmed with pessimism about the outcome of this conflict.

The Poles fought valiantly too against the armies of Germany and Russia, with no outside help. They lasted 26 days. I do not see this ending well for the good guys; based on their history, the Russian military is likely to have no restrictions on its use of force against civilian populations. The anecdotes that suggest a lack of enthusiasm for this war are just that — anecdotes; there is no reason to expect that such attitudes are prevalent among the military forces. They will be brutal.

But if Russia starts carpet bombing Ukrainian civilian areas, that could be a tipping point where NATO says, “OK, fuck this shit - we’re imposing a no-fly zone over the whole of Ukraine and any Russian target in the air gets blown out of the sky.”

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:36:11pm

Biden makes decision on Supreme Court nominee, with announcement as soon as Friday

cnn.com

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:47:08pm

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

I am just overwhelmed with pessimism about the outcome of this conflict.

The Poles fought valiantly too against the armies of Germany and Russia, with no outside help. They lasted 26 days. I do not see this ending well for the good guys; based on their history, the Russian military is likely to have no restrictions on its use of force against civilian populations. The anecdotes that suggest a lack of enthusiasm for this war are just that — anecdotes; there is no reason to expect that such attitudes are prevalent among the military forces. They will be brutal.

It is true that war is horrific and brutal. It is also true that the Russians may choose to be deliberately more brutal. And it is true that the Ukrainians could still lose this stage of the war.

It is far too early to know the outcome. And even if the Russians succeed in occupying Ukraine, they still have to ‘pacify’ it and create a successful puppet government. Or tie down much of their military for years to come.

And yes, it’s a terrible human tragedy on a scale that has not been seen in Europe since World War 2.

None of us have any control over any of this. Stressing ourselves out over things we cannot control damages our ability to manage things we can control. A lot of folks are recommending that we pace ourselves and, if needed, take time off for self-care.

I have been studying this stuff for almost 60 years. And there times when it gets so intense that I need to take a break. In the end, not one bit of any stress on my part is going to mean diddly (scientific term) to how the war proceeds.

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retired cynic  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:49:24pm

re: #216 ckkatz

good advice, even if it seems heartless — Ukraine has suffered so much for generations

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:50:14pm

Russie, va te faire foutre !

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:51:39pm

Thread on some of the questions yet to be answered regarding Russia’s attack on Ukraine. Maybe Russia has thought it all through. But that certainly isn’t apparent right now:

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jaunte  Feb 24, 2022 • 9:53:17pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:03:24pm

re: #201 Hecuba’s daughter

I am just overwhelmed with pessimism about the outcome of this conflict.

The Poles fought valiantly too against the armies of Germany and Russia, with no outside help. They lasted 26 days. I do not see this ending well for the good guys; based on their history, the Russian military is likely to have no restrictions on its use of force against civilian populations. The anecdotes that suggest a lack of enthusiasm for this war are just that — anecdotes; there is no reason to expect that such attitudes are prevalent among the military forces. They will be brutal.

The Poles were effectively abandoned from the very beginning, as France and Britain had guaranteed their sovereignty without any plan on how to actually defend it. Their defense plans had assumed that they were only facing German aggression and that they simply had to hold the line until pressure could be taken off or their numbers reinforced with foreign assistance. They had no way of knowing that the Reich and the Soviets had negotiated a pact in secret to carve up the country to expand their own spheres of influence. The final factor was that they’d taken to military modernization and reorganization much later than Germany had, so that they were technologically behind and what weapons they had that were of equal measure were in short supply.

None of these are a real factor here with regards to the current conflict. Ukraine hasn’t been abandoned, it has one of the world’s largest military alliances at its back. It’s getting economic and military support, even if those countries cannot get involved directly. It’s fighting a single foe who is handicapped by the need to maintain a facade that this is anything but a war of conquest. And it is at least technologically on par with its opponent, even if its forces are numerically inferior to them. Even if Kyiv falls and the government is forced into exile, the people will continue to fight on until either Russia leaves or until they are all dead. I’m not saying that they will win in the end, what I am saying is that Russia is not going to have an easy time of taking and keeping the whole of the country.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:34:02pm

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ckkatz  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:34:12pm

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:38:12pm

re: #223 ckkatz

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Yeah, that’s one of the minor knock-on effects of this fighting, that game and software developers located in Russia now have to worry that their products may face either backlash or even bans in the West.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:40:19pm

re: #223 ckkatz

There’s a guy on YouTube known as Kreosan. He’s a mad Ukrainian who tinkered with lithium batteries and spent the past few months in the Chernobyl exclusion zone. His last video was 5 days ago, of him scuba diving (!!!) amongst the reactor tunnels.

I hope he’s ok.

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sagehen  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:53:43pm

re: #224 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s one of the minor knock-on effects of this fighting, that game and software developers located in Russia now have to worry that their products may face either backlash or even bans in the West.

BREAKING: CARNEGIE HALL DROPS GERGIEV
slippedisc.com

The hall announced tonight that, in consultation with the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, it has agreed that Valery Gergiev should not conduct this weekend, nor should Denis Matsuev appear as soloist. Both are close associates and apoligists for President Putin.

Gergiev will be replaced by Yannick Nézet-Séguin.

(they haven’t yet announced who the replacement pianist is to be. Dare I hope for Jon Batiste?).

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Moe Avattar  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:58:08pm

re: #182 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

158 imdb credits over 6 decades. That’s a good run.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2022 • 3:54:34am

re: #175 sagehen

Until this week, I never realized Ukranians were so fucking badass.

You never know what you’re capable of until it, whatever it is, happens. Ukrainian’s are saying “this is our country, fuck you Russia! If you think we’re going to roll over, think again.”


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