A Surreal Dystopian Fable About Late Stage Capitalism: “The Employment”

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A man prepares and goes to work in a bizarre world, where the meaning of human workforce is taken to another level.

This animated short film won numerous awards including:

-Freedom of Expression - Honorary Award - CinEuphoria Awards, Portugal, 2010
-Audience Award - Hiroshima International Animation Festival, Japan, 2010
-Best Short Film - Lleida Latin-American Film Festival, Spain, 2009
-Grand Jury Prize, Best Animation & Audience Award - ANIMA - Córdoba International Animation Festival, Argentina, 2009
-FIPRESCI Prize - Annecy International Animated Film Festival, France, 2009
-Best Argentinian Short Film - Mar del Plata Film Festival, Argentina, 2008
-Best Short Film - Havana Film Festival, Cuba, 2008
-Special Mention - Tirana International Film Festival, Albania, 2008

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Original title - El Empleo (The Employment)
Direction - Santiago ‘Bou’ Grasso, Patricio Plaza
Writers - Patricio Plaza, Santiago Grasso
Production - Ojo Raro, Opusbou
Animation - Santiago Grasso, Patricio Plaza
CGI - Lautaro González González
Storyboard - Patricio Plaza
Special effect - Santiago Grasso
Sound - Patricio Plaza
Year - 2008

© Licensed by Patricio Plaza

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1
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:29:48pm

Repost from the end of the dead thread:

*****

re: #98 jaunte

So yes, Constantine could use Christianity to political ends.

Sounds like a dictator-wannabe we all know.

But for those with a historical bent: we should be careful to use the term “Christianity”. When Constantine decided to convert/exploit the new religion, “orthodoxy” was still taking shape, with the followers of Irenaeus and his cohorts pushing out other groups, especially in the east.

Professor Tabor (retired NT scholar) likes to call the original movement the John-the-Baptist-Jesus-James Movement, because he sees the split off from the Temple Jewish leaders as happening over several decades, by a small group that were likely influenced by the zealotry of the extremists in the desert.

The point of this little digression is this: you will find all sorts of Christian fundamentalists claiming they are preaching/teaching/living what “Jesus” taught, but in reality they are just the latest evolution in a long line of a somewhat plastic religion.

2
Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:34:38pm

In 1983, the X-Men visited the State Fair of Texas:

marvel.fandom.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:36:16pm

re: #116 Belafon

Bsky and Mastadon aren’t ready for them.

Concur. Wish Bsky was farther along in their development.

As far as Mastodon: it’s beginning to look more like an alternative to Discord in some ways, minus the ability to embed more functionality.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:43:16pm

(From the last thread)
re: #112 Decatur Deb

Been There, Done That

(Guided tour) (Not Virgil)

Just curious - do you think it would be possible to get a sunburn there?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:44:06pm

re: #4 Lancelot Link Returns!

Hell, yes.

6
Nerdy Fish  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:46:22pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Hell, yes.

No, Hell, Michigan.

7
Dangerman  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:47:10pm

They just break laws left and right

The IRS has placed a lien on Rudy Giuliani’s $4.5 million penthouse after accusing the fallen attorney of owing more than half a million dollars in unpaid taxes, the Daily Mail reports.

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Dangerman  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:50:55pm

re: #7 Dangerman

They just break laws left and right

The IRS has placed a lien on Rudy Giuliani’s $4.5 million penthouse after accusing the fallen attorney of owing more than half a million dollars in unpaid taxes, the Daily Mail reports.

people dont pay their taxes when they get greedy or desperate.

Because the system is voluntary
And enforcement is a joke. Until it becomes too obvious to ignore

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:52:39pm

re: #7 Dangerman

They just break laws left and right

The IRS has placed a lien on Rudy Giuliani’s $4.5 million penthouse after accusing the fallen attorney of owing more than half a million dollars in unpaid taxes, the Daily Mail reports.

Just waiting for Rudy to have his Navin Johnson moment.

Born a poor black child

10
Dangerman  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:52:55pm

Any champagne left?

11
jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:56:18pm

Floorplan and 11 photos at link:

“Rudy Giuliani, the embattled former New York City mayor and personal lawyer for Donald Trump, has put his longtime, luxury Upper East Side apartment on the market for $6.5 million amid his mounting legal troubles.”
sothebysrealty.com

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2023 • 5:59:39pm

re: #10 Dangerman

Any champagne left?

Some cold duck.
en.wikipedia.org

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:01:45pm

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:05:11pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Some cold duck.
en.wikipedia.org

some of us have thrown some gamey buttocks on the grill from downstairs

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No Malarkey!  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:05:19pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:07:19pm

re: #15 No Malarkey!

So much winning…there will be so much winning…you will get to the point where you say Please Mr. President stop with the winning…it’s too much…

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Grunthos the Flatulent 🇳🇿  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:07:29pm

I call Tomorrow’s Wordle The Lighthouse.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 839 5/6

⬜⬜⬜🟨⬜
⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩
⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩
⬜⬜🟩⬜🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Switching to a poker metaphor, the gang managed to get a straight.

SibData: 2,3,4,5,6

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:07:56pm

re: #14 Backwoods Sleuth

some of us have thrown some gamey buttocks on the grill from downstairs

Oh? I missed a troll? They’ve gotten so rare these days…

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:08:50pm

well…

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:11:05pm

re: #18 William Lewis

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:14:20pm

Does anyone still go to Threads?

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:15:24pm

We are so fucked if this happens.

‘I will do it if necessary’: Trump not ruling out being new House speaker

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:16:42pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

We are so fucked if this happens.

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He wants to be in the Speaker’s chair when the House votes to impeach Joe and Kamala. It will be his ultimate revenge.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:19:40pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

re: #23 Joe Bacon ✅

He’s also willing to be Frederick the Great and Cleopatra. Wouldn’t worry about it.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:19:53pm

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:20:31pm
Greg Abbott on Thursday asked lawmakers to come back for a special session that tackles ways to provide state funds for private-school tuition, to intensify Texas’ efforts to discourage undocumented immigrants and to bar private employers from requiring vaccination for COVID-19.

Abbott did not include additional funding for public schools, including teacher pay raises, to the agenda of the year’s third special session, which begins at 1 p.m. Monday.

He may yet do so, though. [My edit] House leaders want Abbott to include enhanced state support of public schools and changes to the education accountability system, in which both districts and campuses are given letter grades, largely based on standardized test scores.

dallasnews.com

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:20:46pm

Caitlin Collins just said that Trump’s indictments prevent him from being Speaker. She’s the first person to do so on TV.

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:20:50pm

re: #12 Decatur Deb

Some cold duck.
en.wikipedia.org

Eddie Harris - Cold Duck Time - Live at Montreux 1969

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:21:22pm

re: #23 Joe Bacon ✅

He wants to be in the Speaker’s chair when the House votes to impeach Joe and Kamala. It will be his ultimate revenge.

And then what? It’ll pass the Senate?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:23:28pm

re: #29 Belafon

And then what? It’ll pass the Senate?

I’m seeing on several right wing sites that they want Trump in the Speakers chair, Joe and Kamala impeached and they want the Republicans in the House to shut down the government and keep it shut until Joe and Kamala are forced to resign so Trump can get back in the White House.

They have no clue as to what will happen when they try to pull that off.

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Lancelot Link Returns!  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:24:23pm

re: #24 Decatur Deb

He’s also willing to be Frederick the Great and Cleopatra. Wouldn’t worry about it.

If he wants to be Cleopatra I’m sure someone could loan him an asp.

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:25:19pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:25:31pm

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:25:44pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

Precise.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:27:40pm

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:28:38pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:29:03pm

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:29:14pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

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I got a feeling Mikey doesn’t believe that applies to Hare Krishna members.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:31:02pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

I got a feeling Mikey doesn’t believe that applies to Hare Krishna members.

Or Lubavitchers. Or Catholics.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:31:11pm

re: #37 darthstar

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As a cat person, I can confidently say we take for granted that our pets defy gravity. When the kitten invades my desk, I can pick her up and yeet her onto the foam bean bag chair on the other side of my office, without worrying about any repercussions other than perhaps getting my toes assaulted.

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:32:37pm

Nerdy Fish yeets kittens!

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:32:46pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

I got a feeling Mikey doesn’t believe that applies to Hare Krishna members.

Mikey would do well to remember that his particular brand of crazy was so toxic, he was about to be voted out as governor of one of the most Bible belt states in the country.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:35:50pm

re: #15 No Malarkey!

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NEVER SURRENDER!!!!

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:40:15pm

Old People

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:42:45pm

re: #20 Backwoods Sleuth

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Charles Johnson  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:43:36pm

re: #21 Belafon

Does anyone still go to Threads?

Nope.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:47:24pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Nope.

Only time I remember it exists is when the force a bit into my Instagram feed. I ignore it and move on. Even among the really hardcore IG/Facebook people I know of, I know no one who bothers with Threads.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:48:11pm

Mastodon

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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:53:09pm

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:54:49pm

Mastodon

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:54:56pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Wouldn’t TFG have to know how to operate the rules of order to be Speaker?

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:55:38pm

re: #51 jaunte

Wouldn’t TFG have to know how to operate the rules of order to be Speaker?

He’ll make them up as he goes along (or Jim Jordan whispers in his ear)

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:56:18pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

That would be an all day job.

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calochortus  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:58:14pm

We’re finally getting around to looking at electric vehicles. Yay?
I find it too easy to rule various models out, so this could take a while, but does anyone have any experience with the Hyundau Ioniq EVs? Their reliability is apparently good, but not as good as Kia’s offerings. However, I disliked the Kia EV6 and haven’t had a chance to test drive the Niro.
We’re looking for safe, reliable, comfortable, and not huge.

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:58:32pm

The House of Representatives run like the Trump Organization is a horrifying prospect.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 6:59:28pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

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Never been certain, but from the readings I’ve done, I always had the impression that yes he did have a streak of antisemitism and racism in him, not nearly as vicious as say Lindbergh who was a real piece of work, but still real. That said, and perhaps it was Eleanor’s influence, I got the impression he worked against it in his later life. Wishful thinking perhaps.

Speaking of Lindbergh, I read an interesting article the other day (can’t find the link now darn it) that suggested that he, embarrassed by his son’s genetic defect, might have killed him, faked the kidnapping and happily let an innocent man be executed for the “crime”. It was quite in keeping with other things I’ve read about him so I didn’t find it too hard to imagine.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:07:16pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

I am going to memorize the Thomas Paine quote:

mas.to

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:10:50pm

re: #57 Belafon

Reload

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Dangerman  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:10:53pm

re: #15 No Malarkey!

[Embedded content]

What I read

judge had ordered Trump to sit for a deposition in the case starting Monday morning in New York. Tfg scheduled a campaign rally in New Hampshire for Monday at noon. ( wasn’t about to be put under oath.)

Apparently

Trump brought the suit and then filed a plea to get out of having to make a deposition. According to Cohen’s comments to the media, any defamation suit can’t go forward without a deposition from the plaintiff declaring how he has be defamed—the deposition that Trump was trying to block. Cohen was laughing has he explained the whole thing, a few weeks ago, on one of the online legal blogs. Trump apparently realized, belatedly, that if he couldn’t make a deposition without incriminating himself.

So he just gave up

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:12:24pm

re: #56 William Lewis

Speaking of Lindbergh, I read an interesting article the other day (can’t find the link now darn it) that suggested that he, embarrassed by his son’s genetic defect, might have killed him, faked the kidnapping and happily let an innocent man be executed for the “crime”. It was quite in keeping with other things I’ve read about him so I didn’t find it too hard to imagine.

Yes I have heard this story about Lindbergh killing his own child. But didn’t Hauptmann confess to the crime?

Charles Lindbergh - Did He Take His Son’s Life?

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:16:13pm

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:16:55pm

re: #61 Vicious Babushka

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Except he can’t miss court appearances for it.

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Dangerman  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:17:49pm

re: #59 Dangerman

I hope someone soon disabuses him of the notion that his campaigning for prez somehow makes him holy and untouchable and gets priority over his legal obligations.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:20:50pm

I thought TFG can’t become Speaker because of the 91 felonies.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:23:04pm

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

Yes I have heard this story about Lindbergh killing his own child. But didn’t Hauptmann confess to the crime?

[Embedded content]

Remembering that anyone will say anything to get torture to end and knowing what police in America are capable of…

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:24:09pm

Mastodon

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:25:47pm

Morning, all. I wake up here in Europe and see that Trump’s shenanigans just never stop…

Shortly after he left office, former President Donald J. Trump shared apparently classified information about American nuclear submarines with an Australian businessman during an evening of conversation at Mar-a-Lago, his private club and residence in Florida, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The businessman, Anthony Pratt, a billionaire member of Mar-a-Lago who runs one of the world’s largest cardboard companies, went on to share the sensitive details about the submarines with several others, the people said, potentially endangering the U.S. nuclear fleet.
Federal prosecutors working for the special counsel, Jack Smith, learned about Mr. Trump’s disclosures of the secrets to Mr. Pratt, which were first revealed by ABC News, and interviewed him as part of their investigation into the former president’s handling of classified documents, the people said.

nytimes.com

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:25:53pm

re: #54 calochortus

Check the VW ID.4 as well. It’s crossover SUV’ish but not huge.

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calochortus  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:51:38pm

re: #68 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ll look into it. Thanks.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:54:53pm

re: #64 Vicious Babushka

I thought TFG can’t become Speaker because of the 91 felonies.

I don’t think there’s actually any House rule against it. Someone pointed out earlier that the rule a lot of people keep quoting relates to being in charge of some part of the Republican party’s apparatus.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 5, 2023 • 7:57:12pm

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:04:03pm

@larry-macdougall.bsky.social

Recent watercolour illustration for the second Gwelf book, Into the Hinterlands. Archer mouse in winter. More soon.

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wrenchwench  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:04:34pm

Mastodon

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:08:15pm

Possibly the best “reaction to a song” video I’ve watched…

Johnny Cash “Hurt” REACTION & ANALYSIS by Vocal Coach/Opera Singer

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:20:32pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon ✅

I’m seeing on several right wing sites that they want Trump in the Speakers chair, Joe and Kamala impeached and they want the Republicans in the House to shut down the government and keep it shut until Joe and Kamala are forced to resign so Trump can get back in the White House.

They have no clue as to what will happen when they try to pull that off.

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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:24:32pm

re: #74 William Lewis

Possibly the best “reaction to a song” video I’ve watched…

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Agreed. She’s a great reviewer of song and also a hell of an expert in vocals.

You should watch all of her stuff. The Charismatic Voice is one of the best things on YouTube.

And good night! Sweet dreams.

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austin_blue  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:28:04pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Agreed. She’s a great reviewer of song and also a hell of an expert in vocals.

You should watch all of her stuff. The Charismatic Voice is one of the best things on YouTube.

And good night! Sweet dreams.

Oh, and we got 1.83” of rain at Casa 78704 this morning. Yay us!

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:31:12pm

re: #76 austin_blue

Agreed. She’s a great reviewer of song and also a hell of an expert in vocals.

You should watch all of her stuff. The Charismatic Voice is one of the best things on YouTube.

And good night! Sweet dreams.

Been watching her for a long time, just not sure if I’d shared this here before. Re-watching her review of “The Chain” right now and wishing for a 2 hour major motion picture biopic film of the making of Rumors because it would be amazing. Ending with the first live performance of The Chain… because that song saved the band.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:35:32pm

re: #77 austin_blue

Oh, and we got 1.83” of rain at Casa 78704 this morning. Yay us!

It’s been snowing above 10,000 ft. around these parts the last few days. The mountains above treeline have had a frosty appearance as of late. Weather is gonna be very good tomorrow, I’m brush cutting at Sunlight ski area so I’m thankful.

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:42:17pm

re: #79 teleskiguy

It’s been snowing above 10,000 ft. around these parts the last few days. The mountains above treeline have had a frosty appearance as of late. Weather is gonna be very good tomorrow, I’m brush cutting at Sunlight ski area so I’m thankful.

You’ll be slipping around on those waxed wood sticks pretty soon 😉 Glad for you even if my knees hurt every time I think of skiing (Uncle Sam damaged my knees badly with cross country skiing training) 😲 I’ve never had a pleasant experience skiing personally so I’m really glad you have so much time doing so. It’s a good reminder to me that we all have different joys 😎

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:49:15pm

re: #80 William Lewis

Skiing saved my life. To this day it has given me some kind of compass in life. It’s a fucked up compass with a lot of what have youse. I cannot discount the joy it has brought to me and a feeling that I’m the luckiest shithead alive. I even got a tattoo.

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:50:43pm

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:51:41pm

re: #81 teleskiguy

Skiing saved my life. To this day it has given me some kind of compass in life. It’s a fucked up compass with a lot of what have youse. I cannot discount the joy it has brought to me and a feeling that I’m the luckiest shithead alive. I even got a tattoo.

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Perhaps I should get a camera as a tattoo … ;) Not sure of anyone who could do a Nikon S2 credit though LOL!

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:56:02pm

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:56:38pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Perhaps I should get a camera as a tattoo … ;) Not sure of anyone who could do a Nikon S2 credit though LOL!

I, for real, actually know a guy that could do this for you.

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:58:23pm

Here’s a little xmas gift idea for the snowflake in your life…

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 8:59:36pm

Mastodon

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jaunte  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:00:04pm

re: #86 darthstar

Dixagonal.

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darthstar  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:00:12pm

As you may have noticed…I’m posting random shit until I fall asleep. I hope to stop soon.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:06:46pm

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:13:50pm

re: #85 teleskiguy

I, for real, actually know a guy that could do this for you.

If I lived I Colorado, I’d be tempted :)

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:20:56pm

re: #83 William Lewis

Perhaps I should get a camera as a tattoo … ;) Not sure of anyone who could do a Nikon S2 credit though LOL!

Before you get a tattoo, ask the artist about what is necessary to maintain the tattoo as you age, what colors he recommends for your tattoo, and how cautious you should be about exposing the tattoo to sunlight.

One of my best friends who was a tattoo artist said these were important considerations before getting a tattoo. He also refused to tattoo anyone who was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

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teleskiguy  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:31:28pm

re: #91 William Lewis

If you wanted to spend a week on vacation in Glenwood Springs - an exceedingly nice place to wander and the most exquisite place to take a swim in an Olympic sized hot springs pool, 87° water temp *year round.* So wild to swim in that pool in a snowstorm!

Tattoo artist’s name is Matt Hays. His father is the General Manager of Sunlight Mountain Resort.

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:37:44pm

Trump has groomed the Republican Party:

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William Lewis  Oct 5, 2023 • 9:58:07pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

If you wanted to spend a week on vacation in Glenwood Springs - an exceedingly nice place to wander and the most exquisite place to take a swim in an Olympic sized hot springs pool, 87° water temp *year round.* So wild to swim in that pool in a snowstorm!

Tattoo artist’s name is Matt Hays. His father is the General Manager of Sunlight Mountain Resort.

If I am anywhere near there ever, then I’ll really consider that as a tat but the odds are against it.

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Captain Ron  Oct 5, 2023 • 10:02:29pm

Yesterday I missed my bike ride because I was going to get my COVID shot but Kaiser went on strike and by then it was too hot. Today I missed it because it got too hot too early. Tomorrow will probably be the same. 97 degrees.

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Belafon  Oct 5, 2023 • 10:10:14pm

Luffy will be a float in the Macy’s parade this year.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2023 • 10:29:24pm

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

Yes I have heard this story about Lindbergh killing his own child. But didn’t Hauptmann confess to the crime?

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re: #65 William Lewis

Remembering that anyone will say anything to get torture to end and knowing what police in America are capable of…

People routinely confess to crimes they have not committed, especially when they are not affluent with high-priced attorneys to protect them or in high-profile cases that police are under pressure to solve quickly.

FWIW
Hauptmann’s last words were:

I am at peace with God. I repeat, I protest my innocence of the crime for which I was convicted. However, I die with no malice or hatred in my heart.

My impression is that there remains uncertainty about whether he was actually guilty.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 5, 2023 • 10:33:32pm

Just got texts on my phone that Trump endorsed Jordan for Speaker. Doesn’t look like he has any interest in a gig that requires real work and listening to others.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 12:16:23am

Several dating methods agree that fossil human footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, date to 21k-23k years ago. That is about 7.5k-9.5k years before artifacts from Clovis, New Mexico, traditionally considered the oldest evidence of human activity in the Western Hemisphere.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2023 • 12:42:23am

re: #78 William Lewis

Been watching her for a long time, just not sure if I’d shared this here before. Re-watching her review of “The Chain” right now and wishing for a 2 hour major motion picture biopic film of the making of Rumors because it would be amazing. Ending with the first live performance of The Chain… because that song saved the band.

The Chain is, IMHO, one of the best songs ever written/performed.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 1:06:29am

Wisconsin Republicans are upset that a teenage girl participated in the naked bike ride, because it’s important for children to know that they should be ashamed of their bodies, I guess.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 1:12:45am

Remember that under Calvinist Protestantism, work is a virtue unto itself, and we should be ready and willing to work for the sake of working and look on any remuneration for it simply as an added (but undeserved) bonus.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2023 • 1:40:03am

Assuming we survive the era of Fox News and the right wing noise machine, I hope the Murdoch name becomes synonymous with Benedict Arnold for all eternity and every one of his offspring and their offspring and theirs (and so on, etc.) lives with the shame.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:11:46am

re: #74 William Lewis

Cash’s version of Hurt is awesome. Real voice, real emotion, real musical tralent on the instruments. No fucking autotune.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:17:12am

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:24:28am

re: #90 So Cal Greek Hippie

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When I see the dogs in red bandanas I think they’ve joined the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War. Probably P.O.U.M.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:27:38am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

Several dating methods agree that fossil human footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, date to 21k-23k years ago. That is about 7.5k-9.5k years before artifacts from Clovis, New Mexico, traditionally considered the oldest evidence of human activity in the Western Hemisphere.

It fits with the dates proposed for the Meadowcroft site, south of PGH, a continent away.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:30:39am

re: #103 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember that under Calvinist Protestantism, work is a virtue unto itself, and we should be ready and willing to work for the sake of working and look on any remuneration for it simply as an added (but undeserved) bonus.

Well before Calvin, it is a key idea in RC monasticism. “Ora et Labora” quickly becomes “Labor est Ora”.

en.wikipedia.org

edit: fixed declension.

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William Lewis  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:35:48am

re: #110 Decatur Deb

Well before Calvin, it is a key idea in RC monasticism. “Ora et Laboris” quickly becomes “Laboris est Ora”.

Which of course turns into a heresy… O_o oops!

;)

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Amory Blaine  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:38:36am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

Several dating methods agree that fossil human footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, date to 21k-23k years ago. That is about 7.5k-9.5k years before artifacts from Clovis, New Mexico, traditionally considered the oldest evidence of human activity in the Western Hemisphere.

They have been verified to belong to Keith Richards.

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Targetpractice  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:53:08am

re: #112 Amory Blaine

They have been verified to belong to Keith Richards.

Nah, wrong shoe size, those are Abe Vigoda’s footprints.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:59:39am

For all the geeks out there:

Secret History: Apple’s first attempt at making a CPU

..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:08:31am

re: #29 Belafon

And then what? It’ll pass the Senate?

Once they purge the treasonous members, yes, just like the Enabling Act.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:11:47am

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

Yes I have heard this story about Lindbergh killing his own child. But didn’t Hauptmann confess to the crime?

Yes, but problably under a level of duress that would make Gitmo look like Club Med.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:12:39am

re: #64 Vicious Babushka

I thought TFG can’t become Speaker because of the 91 felonies.

“Those aren’t exactly rules, they’re more, like, well guidelines!”

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:32:31am

re: #108 Decatur Deb

When I see the dogs in red bandanas I think they’ve joined the Republican side in the Spanish Civil War. Probably P.O.U.M.

When I speak to Europeans, I always have to remind them that “Republican” in a Spanish or Irish context is a very VERY different thing from what it means in an American context.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:35:06am

re: #118 sagehen

When I speak to Europeans, I always have to remind them that “Republican” in a Spanish or Irish context is a very VERY different thing from what it means in an American context.

Not to mention Red vs Blue states, and “liberal” to them means Free Market Libertarianism

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:35:44am

TGIF! Some early morning drive time music.

Murder By Death - Everything Must Rest

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:35:47am

re: #116 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Yes, but problably under a level of duress that would make Gitmo look like Club Med.

The Central Park Five all confessed. After 16 hours of interrogation, with no food or water or lawyers, while the cops subbed in fresh replacement interrogators every 2 or 3 hours.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:36:40am

re: #119 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not to mention Red vs Blue states, and “liberal” to them means Free Market Libertarianism

Now WE get to use “Better dead than red”.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:42:42am

re: #121 sagehen

The Central Park Five all confessed. After 16 hours of interrogation, with no food or water or lawyers, while the cops subbed in fresh replacement interrogators every 2 or 3 hours.

It also bears noting that police are allowed to lie during interrogations. Most importantly, they frequently say that they have hard evidence that will put the suspect away for a long time, and then imply that they can get a reduced sentence if they confess. Presented with a choice between confessing to a crime you didn’t commit and maybe getting off easy, or apparently getting railroaded into a long and painful prison sentence, who among us wouldn’t choose the first option?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:48:22am

re: #123 Nerdy Fish

It also bears noting that police are allowed to lie during interrogations.

so courts are allowed to use confessions obtained under false pretenses?

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:54:44am

re: #121 sagehen

The Central Park Five all confessed. After 16 hours of interrogation, with no food or water or lawyers, while the cops subbed in fresh replacement interrogators every 2 or 3 hours.

“Bennie” Bedwell confessed to the murders of the Grimes sisters (an infamous cold case in the Chicagoland area) back in 1957 after three days of absolutely relentless interrogation by the Chicago PD.

Turned out his “confession” didn’t match the cause of death of either of the girls, and furthermore, he was at work on the very day he confessed to having committed the crime and even better, he was working on the day and time when it’s believed the murders actually occurred.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 3:57:21am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

so courts are allowed to use confessions obtained under false pretenses?

Absolutely, as long as the defense isn’t able to prove that it’s obtained under false pretenses. Unless a lawyer asks them, the cops don’t have to tell the court they offered a false bargain to the defendant - and a prosecutor, whose job rating depends on getting convictions, certainly isn’t going to ask.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:00:11am

An update on Porkchop. He is happily living in a garage with access to the outside and now goes by the name Efco. He is still skittish, filling out nicely but hasn’t had his first visit to the vet. I am dropping off some soft food and toys for him today to his ironworker momma.

I don’t have any new pictures of him, so I will leave you with a site picture of efco towers in action and a picture of his tubby brother Dunny.

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TarHellion  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:01:48am

To paraphrase Dr. Beeper from Caddyshack, “Probably just a routine birbie.”

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:02:22am

50/50 burned me again. But, all green today for this cold fall Friday.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:04:49am

An interesting thought: One way to improve the American justice system would be to make a video of the interrogation a required piece of evidence in order to introduce a confession. If you aren’t willing to go on camera for the judge and jury and show how you got the confession, then the confession is thrown out. There are ways to interview a hostile subject and obtain key evidence without resorting to interrogation techniques that break innocent people.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:06:18am

re: #107 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Pulls a birb out of the sand.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:21:40am
A 7-year-old girl died choking on a ball that dislodged from a candy rollerball treat, prompting a recall of more than 70 million containers of two different products.

Candy Dynamics recalled 70 million containers of Slime Licker Sour Rolling Liquid Candy because of a choking hazard, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission said in an Thursday announcement.

In a separate recall Thursday, KGR Candies recalled about 145,800 tubes of Cocco Candy Rolling Candy because the treat’s rolling ball can dislodge and get trapped in a person’s throat, potentially causing death, the safety commission reported.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:36:41am

re: #132 Shropshire Slasher

I didn’t even know they made a candy like that. Sounds like something out of the 1970s - you know, the Golden Age of Deadly Projectile Kid’s Toys.

Oh, and taking a look at the actual product…yeah, that’s not candy, that’s a roll-on deodorant or something.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2023 • 4:51:08am

OK. Off to work. Back later.

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Shropshire Slasher  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:03:30am

the horror.

Why has the story of the budding romance between superstar singer Taylor Swift and NFL player Travis Kelce so overtaken social media?

It feels familiar when so much of the world has gone insane.
But why is their liaison so front and center? Why is social media wall-to-wall with this couple? Why are there so many spin-off memes (“Taylor put Travis Kelce on the map” and “Seemingly Ranch” are two of the bigger ones) and an insane amount of hoopla?

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It’s less about their political leanings than about the fact Taylor is a blue-state girl and Travis is a red-state boy and they’re into each other.

They don’t make mustaches like that in the blue states. She should put that in a song.

The truth is that after years of division and tumult, it’s fun to watch the girl who looks like a homecoming queen get together with the star football player and have their romance right out in the open.

It feels familiar when so much of the world has gone insane.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:06:17am

RCA TVR - 1966 - juggling batons optional.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:09:52am

re: #136 darthstar

RCA TVR - 1966 - juggling batons optional.

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“compact”. It only takes up most of your closet.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:16:33am

re: #84 darthstar

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:21:45am

re: #130 Nerdy Fish

An interesting thought: One way to improve the American justice system would be to make a video of the interrogation a required piece of evidence in order to introduce a confession. If you aren’t willing to go on camera for the judge and jury and show how you got the confession, then the confession is thrown out.

It’s a state-by-state thing, with a couple of dozen states requiring exactly that. (In New York, this law has only been in effect since 2018)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:23:02am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Jesus plays a Tele.

He plays a Transubstantiocaster!

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:25:27am

re: #78 William Lewis

Been watching her for a long time, just not sure if I’d shared this here before. Re-watching her review of “The Chain” right now and wishing for a 2 hour major motion picture biopic film of the making of Rumors because it would be amazing. Ending with the first live performance of The Chain… because that song saved the band.

Another crucial movie scene would be Warner Electra Asylum (WEA) deciding, “it’s just gonna be another mediocre sales Fleetwood Mac album. We’re not going to release it.”

And somehow Don Schmitzerle, head of Reprise Records (Fleetwood Mac’s label) convinced them to release it.

Then after record sales (pun intended) everyone was a hero.

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:26:45am

re: #135 Shropshire Slasher

the horror.

Why has the story of the budding romance between superstar singer Taylor Swift and NFL player Travis Kelce so overtaken social media?

nypost.com

Because Taylor Swift has 265 million Instagram followers, most of whom live on their phones. That’s the reason.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:27:58am

re: #139 sagehen

It’s a state-by-state thing, with a couple of dozen states requiring exactly that. (In New York, this law has only been in effect since 2018)

There was a big blow up in a classic “24” case in Frankfurt, Germany with a still-alive missing child whose life was in jeopardy, and yet the police got in trouble for threatening a suspect tht they would “make things hot as hell” (ihm die Hölle heiss machen)for him if he did not reveal the whereabouts of the missing boy.

Germany are very tetchy about anything resembling police abuse of powers.

On the other hand, German police shot 11 people and injured 30 in all of 2022

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:28:38am

re: #139 sagehen

It’s a state-by-state thing, with a couple of dozen states requiring exactly that. (In New York, this law has only been in effect since 2018)

“Homocide: Life In The Street” had a very good episode regarding interrogations based around the character filming a documentary in the department and a sort of 4th-wall breaking approach where the detectives where talking about interrogation stuff directly to the camera (implying they were being filmed by the guy doing the documentary).

And they pretty much make it clear that the police officers are *not* on your side if you are in that room being asked questions.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:30:24am

re: #144 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

“Homocide: Life In The Street” had a very good episode regarding interrogations based around the character filming a documentary in the department and a sort of 4th-wall breaking approach where the detectives where talking about interrogation stuff directly to the camera (implying they were being filmed by the guy doing the documentary).

And they pretty much make it clear that the police officers are *not* on your side if you are in that room being asked questions.

Police are never on your side. And they will make up shit if they are pretty sure there is no way to contradict it (i.e. video).

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:31:03am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

Police are never on your side. And they will make up shit if they are pretty sure there is no way to contradict it (i.e. video).

The very reason it’s important to have a good lawyer for criminal defense is that they can figure out what the state actually has on you, i.e. whether the cops are lying to you or whether they really are about to put you away for life.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:32:48am

re: #8 Dangerman

people dont pay their taxes when they get greedy or desperate.

Because the system is voluntary
And enforcement is a joke. Until it becomes too obvious to ignore

There’s a reason the GOP wants to gut and filet IRS enforcement, and made up all kinds of bulkshit about the IRS funding that included adding 87,000 customer service, audit, and investigator workers to the IRS, mostly to cover retirements and attrition over the next decade.

It still does little to improve audit rates on the millionaire class, which is far more likely to take advantage of lax enforcement to engage in scams and tax fraud.

It isn’t surprising Rudy is facing tax problems, on top of everything else.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:33:23am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

Police are never on your side. And they will make up shit if they are pretty sure there is no way to contradict it (i.e. video).

I remember someone pointing out that policemen like to use the semantic trick of asking: “Do you mind if we have a look around?” so that they can claim you had given them permission to search regardless of whether you answered “yes” or “no”.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:34:27am

re: #145 Eventual Carrion

Police are never on your side. And they will make up shit if they are pretty sure there is no way to contradict it (i.e. video).

Police lying during interrogations is also a plot point in Fritz Lang’s “M”. (A really good movie if anyone has not seen it.)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:34:39am

re: #147 lawhawk

GOP has us convinced those people are going to be sent out to remove religious tax exemptions and nickel-and-dime small businesses to death.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:35:04am

The U.S. economy created 336,000 jobs in September, and the July and August numbers were revised upwards by 119,000. Why this is bad news for Joe Biden.

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steve_davis  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:39:32am

ran into my first just complete dick on bluesky. It was demoralizing, but I guess not completely unexpected. Now I really understand why Charles puts the random folks on a short leash, because if I’d just said “fuck off and die” after the first exchange, while blocking, it would have saved me 10 minutes of wanting to bite the motherfucker’s ear off.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:40:12am

re: #150 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

GOP has us convinced those people are going to be sent out to remove religious tax exemptions and nickel-and-dime small businesses to death.

GOP is also aware that a lot of groups deserve to have those tax exemptions removed.

My personal preference would be to level the playing field, remove the exemption for religious reasons, and make them follow the same rules as an other 501(c) non-profit. Many places also grant some property tax breaks to non-profits and charities to allow them to support a small headquarters building or two. But you don’t get to build the huge reserves of non-taxable real estate that some have collected.

(Aside) I find this “issue” sort of interesting since one reason Henry VIII went Protestant was to get the opportunity to seize a bunch of Church lands that could otherwise not be taxed. It’s also a basis (to a degree) for an early Black Adder episode.

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Markm1960  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:44:34am

re: #126 Nerdy Fish

Absolutely, as long as the defense isn’t able to prove that it’s obtained under false pretenses. Unless a lawyer asks them, the cops don’t have to tell the court they offered a false bargain to the defendant - and a prosecutor, whose job rating depends on getting convictions, certainly isn’t going to ask.

Look up and read about Jon Burge the Chicago cop who was able to elicit quite a few “confessions” and convictions during his career. False confessions are way more common than people realise.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:46:13am

September wasn’t just warm…

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:49:08am

re: #135 Shropshire Slasher

the horror.

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It has much to do with Taylor Swift handling her career at almost Dolly Parton levels of craft. The real status of Taylor and Travis’s relationship, I don’t have a clue. Just sit back and watch the media feed.

I can’t name any of her hit songs, but admire her public ability to perform at her level, and still project the personna of, “Look I’m in on the joke, so let’s have a good time.”

Sh’e’s made some mistakes, not controlling her initial masters was a big one, but that won’t happen again. And Kudos for bonuses paid to her production staff and crew at the end of her last tour.

So yea, even tho I haven’t purchased any of her product, I’m a fan and wish her well.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:49:18am

re: #154 Markm1960

Look up and read about Jon Burge the Chicago cop who was able to elicit quite a few “confessions” and convictions during his career. False confessions are way more common than people realise.

Is that the one who invented the method that’s still being taught to cops today as an effective method of extracting a confession from a suspect?

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:51:00am

re: #130 Nerdy Fish

An interesting thought: One way to improve the American justice system would be to make a video of the interrogation a required piece of evidence in order to introduce a confession. If you aren’t willing to go on camera for the judge and jury and show how you got the confession, then the confession is thrown out. There are ways to interview a hostile subject and obtain key evidence without resorting to interrogation techniques that break innocent people.

Instead, SCOTUS may eliminate many protections for criminal defendants, such as Miranda Warnings and public defenders.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:51:10am

re: #156 BeenHereAwhile

Taylor swift brings more people into stadiums for a concert than the NFL does for a game, and she charges a lot more for her tickets, too…

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:56:31am

re: #153 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

(Aside) I find this “issue” sort of interesting since one reason Henry VIII went Protestant was to get the opportunity to seize a bunch of Church lands that could otherwise not be taxed. It’s also a basis (to a degree) for an early Black Adder episode.

oh, honey. The reason Henry VIII went protestant is because the Pope wouldn’t let him annul his marriage to Catherine.

The property seizures was just icing on the cake.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 5:58:20am

re: #131 Eventual Carrion

OMG, totally unexpected. 2/6

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A Cranky One  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:00:39am

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steve_davis  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:01:01am

re: #40 Nerdy Fish

As a cat person, I can confidently say we take for granted that our pets defy gravity. When the kitten invades my desk, I can pick her up and yeet her onto the foam bean bag chair on the other side of my office, without worrying about any repercussions other than perhaps getting my toes assaulted.

Paris, for the brief time I knew him, exited the apartment by jumping down from the balcony. I mean, it was probably 12 feet onto concrete. Even the guy downstairs who likes to sit out there and smoke dope, wondered out loud if the cat didn’t injure itself doing that, and maybe he did, because he did it one morning and never came back. Could be he blew an ACL, or got a stress fracture somewhere, and cats are life’s only non-hypocritical libertarians: if they take an injury, they will go off and die rather than seek socialized medicine.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:04:38am

re: #163 steve_davis

Paris, for the brief time I knew him, exited the apartment by jumping down from the balcony. I mean, it was probably 12 feet onto concrete. Even the guy downstairs who likes to sit out there and smoke dope, wondered out loud if the cat didn’t injure itself doing that, and maybe he did, because he did it one morning and never came back. Could be he blew an ACL, or got a stress fracture somewhere, and cats are life’s only non-hypocritical libertarians: if they take an injury, they will go off and die rather than seek socialized medicine.

Not my house cats. I’ve spent close to $9k on their medical bills the last two years!

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BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:07:10am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Taylor swift brings more people into stadiums for a concert than the NFL does for a game, and she charges a lot more for her tickets, too…

She performs only every several years in a NFL stadium with no real time public broadcast of her show. Whereas each NFL stadium gets at least 10 gamedays each season, with live broadcast of each event.

Signed, someone who was being paid to be on the sidelines of many NFL games, and watching the clock to see how long before the game is over.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:09:58am

Trump maximizes shareholder value, so don’t expect coverage to change.

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Markm1960  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:10:09am

re: #153 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

GOP is also aware that a lot of groups deserve to have those tax exemptions removed.

My personal preference would be to level the playing field, remove the exemption for religious reasons, and make them follow the same rules as an other 501(c) non-profit. Many places also grant some property tax breaks to non-profits and charities to allow them to support a small headquarters building or two. But you don’t get to build the huge reserves of non-taxable real estate that some have collected.

(Aside) I find this “issue” sort of interesting since one reason Henry VIII went Protestant was to get the opportunity to seize a bunch of Church lands that could otherwise not be taxed. It’s also a basis (to a degree) for an early Black Adder episode.

At the local level not for profits use resources and pay for none of them. Police, fire, sewer, street wear tear and maintenance. Hospitals, churches, colleges both private and public, all consume local resources and don’t pay taxes to support those services.

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Markm1960  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:11:44am

re: #157 Nerdy Fish

Is that the one who invented the method that’s still being taught to cops today as an effective method of extracting a confession from a suspect?

I’m not certain about that, he was known for torturing suspects.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:15:08am

Payrolls increased by 336,000 in September. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:15:11am

re: #151 No Malarkey!

The U.S. economy created 336,000 jobs in September, and the July and August numbers were revised upwards by 119,000. Why this is bad news for Joe Biden.

Because the media will never actually report it.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:16:58am

re: #170 Belafon

Because the media will never actually report it.

Sorry, #170 beat me to it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:19:07am

re: #165 BeenHereAwhile

She performs only every several years in a NFL stadium with no real time public broadcast of her show. Whereas each NFL stadium gets at least 10 gamedays each season, with live broadcast of each event.

Signed, someone who was being paid to be on the sidelines of many NFL games, and watching the clock to see how long before the game is over.

That is why I phrased it that way. Cannot, however compare Swifts to swallows or apples to pears

Signed, someone who has not cared about the outcome of a pro football game since the 1969 Super Bowl

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:20:28am

re: #169 Ace Rothstein

Payrolls increased by 336,000 in September. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden.

It means that Job Creators will hve to pay higher wages and that is bad for them: and remember, Job Creators are the only Americans that matter

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:21:19am

re: #156 BeenHereAwhile

Sh’e’s made some mistakes, not controlling her initial masters was a big one, but that won’t happen again. And Kudos for bonuses paid to her production staff and crew at the end of her last tour.

So yea, even tho I haven’t purchased any of her product, I’m a fan and wish her well.

Her tour isn’t even done; that was just the US and Mexico City. She’s goes back out again in a few weeks — 9 dates in Brazil in November, then 17 dates in Australia and Asia in February/March, 40-some European dates in May-August, then 15 dates in Toronto and the US in Oct/Nov 2024. It’s a monster of a tour.

genius.com

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:30:17am

Everything Trump Touches Dies. Too bad, so sad.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:38:11am

re: #175 No Malarkey!

Everything Trump Touches Dies. Too bad, so sad.

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And Crackhead Mike is getting what he deserves.

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:40:02am

re: #175 No Malarkey!

Everything Trump Touches Dies. Too bad, so sad.

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Lindell joined Trump’s coup to sell pillows. Fuck around. Find out.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:43:36am

re: #177 darthstar

Lindell joined Trump’s coup to sell pillows. Fuck around. Find out.

“Jesus told me to overthrow the government and make Trump King”.

Sure he did…Tell us another lie…

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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:47:33am

Good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:52:03am

One major brakthrough for me was to learn to wait a whole hour (minimum) after waking up to have my first cuppa coffee. If I really need a stimulant, I will have a cup of peppermint tea or something.

As I understand, any caffiene you drink within the first 60-90 minutes does of waking not have a useful effect, you are just wired and tired, it really only kicks in once your body’s own wake-up hormones have become activated.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:58:26am

Youngkin stacking the deck in Virginia.

VA Dems demand ‘immediate investigation’ after voters mistakenly listed as felons purged from rolls

An unknown number of Virginia voters have been wrongly purged from the rolls after being mistakenly listed as felons, and Virginia Democrats are calling for the United States Department of Justice to take action.

Axios reports that Virginia Democrats have been hammering Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin after his administration “recently acknowledged it had incorrectly classified the voting status of some residents with felony convictions,” thus leaving them ineligible to vote under Virginia state law.

“There must be an immediate investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice into how this happened in the run-up to a very consequential election next month,” Rep. Bobby Scott (D-Va.) told Axios.

axios.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:00:14am

Birbie.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:00:19am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

Several dating methods agree that fossil human footprints in White Sands, New Mexico, date to 21k-23k years ago. That is about 7.5k-9.5k years before artifacts from Clovis, New Mexico, traditionally considered the oldest evidence of human activity in the Western Hemisphere.

The typical response from the Pueblo peoples, Navajos, and Apaches:

And we’re still here.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:00:35am

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:01:51am

re: #184 wrenchwench

The typical response from the Pueblo peoples, Navajos, and Apaches:

Lost Siberians.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:03:24am

re: #186 Decatur Deb

Lost Siberians.

Also, ancient ocean-goers.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:03:50am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

McCarthy refused to supply aid to Ukraine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:04:52am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

The Freedom Caucus would have moved against him sooner or later for the sin of disobeying the wishes of their Fearless Leader.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:08:44am

re: #188 Belafon

McCarthy refused to supply aid to Ukraine.

As part of the CR, yes. But I thought that he was going to support it as a separate resolution.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:09:25am

re: #190 Hecuba’s daughter

As part of the CR, yes. But I thought that he was going to support it as a separate resolution.

at which point they would have ousted him

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:10:27am

Dow Jones Falls 225 Points On Strong Jobs Report; Tesla Slides On Price Cuts
investors.com

The Dow is not on your side.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:11:40am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Dow Jones Falls 225 Points On Strong Jobs Report; Tesla Slides On Price Cuts
investors.com

The Dow is not on your side.

again, Job Creators and Hedge Fund Managers are the only Americans who matter

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:13:55am

re: #54 calochortus

We’re finally getting around to looking at electric vehicles. Yay?
I find it too easy to rule various models out, so this could take a while, but does anyone have any experience with the Hyundau Ioniq EVs? Their reliability is apparently good, but not as good as Kia’s offerings. However, I disliked the Kia EV6 and haven’t had a chance to test drive the Niro.
We’re looking for safe, reliable, comfortable, and not huge.

One of my friends bought an Audi EV, but it may be too large and too expensive for you. But she likes it.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:15:40am

Alexa just offered Wife a routine re-order. She said “No, Thank You”.

How polite are you to ‘bots? The answer could be quite significant.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:15:55am

Mastodon

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:20:20am

re: #192 Decatur Deb

Dow Jones Falls 225 Points On Strong Jobs Report; Tesla Slides On Price Cuts
investors.com

The Dow is not on your side.

“The workers have too much power.”

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:21:34am

I eliminated all the incorrect possibilities with my first guess. /

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:22:21am

re: #197 Belafon

“The workers have too much power.”

“We need more penury.”

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:22:52am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:24:25am

Wow! I can’t wait to ignore this “debate”!

Fox News’ Bret Baier to Moderate GOP Speaker Candidate Debate

Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier will moderate a closed debate and conversation between the leading Republican candidates for House speaker, Punchbowl News reported on Friday.

While the Monday discussion will be closed to the press aside from Fox News, the debate will be televised on the network, though it isn’t clear if it will be aired live or pre-taped.

According to Punchbowl, the participants will be House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, and Republican Study Committee Chair Kevin Hern. While Jordan and Scalise have announced their candidacy,

Hern hasn’t officially tossed his hat in the ring to replace Kevin McCarthy.

The Fox-moderated debate comes on the heels of Fox News star Sean Hannity and Hannity’s pal Donald Trump endorsing Jordan for the speakership. Following the debate, the GOP caucus will hold a candidate forum on Tuesday—which Trump is expected to attend—before moving to a closed door vote Wednesday. It is undetermined when the fight for the speakership will hit the House floor.

thedailybeast.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:24:59am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

I won’t concur with that since the Dems helping McCarthy even when he is a lying treasonweasel who won’t keep deals simply reinforces the theory that the Republicans can do what they want, say what they want, lie all they want, and the Democrats will just roll over and comply every single time.

And how can you differ McCarthy’s behavior from that of “the traitor cult” in any case so far? The GOP has agency and a majority in the House. They have a job to do and their failures to do it are their failures and not the Democrats.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:25:13am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Alexa just offered Wife a routine re-order. She said “No, Thank You”.

How polite are you to ‘bots? The answer could be quite significant.

That was a thread discussed in Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy concerning the fact that no matter how smarmy and deferential machines were to us, we were under no cupulsion to be nice to them…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:26:23am

re: #199 Decatur Deb

“We need more penury.”

“People will not work hard unless they live in constant fear of winding up living in a cardboard box under the freeway!”

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Unabogie  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:27:37am

re: #147 lawhawk

There’s a reason the GOP wants to gut and filet IRS enforcement, and made up all kinds of bulkshit about the IRS funding that included adding 87,000 customer service, audit, and investigator workers to the IRS, mostly to cover retirements and attrition over the next decade.

It still does little to improve audit rates on the millionaire class, which is far more likely to take advantage of lax enforcement to engage in scams and tax fraud.

It isn’t surprising Rudy is facing tax problems, on top of everything else.

I look forward to the GOP whining that paying taxes late isn’t a crime, and there should be no restrictions on gun purchases, but also that Hunter Biden should be in prison for both of those things and his dad should be too for just being his dad.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:28:14am

re: #201 Joe Bacon ✅

I’d recommend listening to the back half of this, where Cassidy Hutchinson gets interviewed and talks about all these fuckers.

Donald Trump As House Speaker? Republicans Thrown Into Chaos After They Throw Kevin McCarthy Out

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:28:24am

re: #201 Joe Bacon ✅

Wow! I can’t wait to ignore this “debate”!

Fox News’ Bret Baier to Moderate GOP Speaker Candidate Debate

Fox News chief political anchor Bret Baier will moderate a closed debate and conversation between the leading Republican candidates for House speaker, Punchbowl News reported on Friday.

While the Monday discussion will be closed to the press aside from Fox News, the debate will be televised on the network, though it isn’t clear if it will be aired live or pre-taped.

According to Punchbowl, the participants will be House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, and Republican Study Committee Chair Kevin Hern. While Jordan and Scalise have announced their candidacy,

Hern hasn’t officially tossed his hat in the ring to replace Kevin McCarthy.

The Fox-moderated debate comes on the heels of Fox News star Sean Hannity and Hannity’s pal Donald Trump endorsing Jordan for the speakership. Following the debate, the GOP caucus will hold a candidate forum on Tuesday—which Trump is expected to attend—before moving to a closed door vote Wednesday. It is undetermined when the fight for the speakership will hit the House floor.

thedailybeast.com

One would think the other media companies should be a bit upset with the GOP for FOX getting exclusive access to this. And they well might. But they won’t say or do anything about it. (Other than maybe asking for more abuse I guess.)

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:28:26am

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

at which point they would have ousted him

Put another way, the Freedumb Caucus was always going to try this eventually. Qevin McCarthy did nothing to reassure Democrats that he would try to govern sensibly if they supported him, and he had burned them several times in the past - most notably, by refusing to consider funding government spending at levels agreed upon in their deal to get the debt limit ceiling raised. Democrats owed nothing to Qevin.

There’s one key fact missing from the analysis, if you’re afraid a true Trump-humper is going to gain the Speakership: There are Republicans who, while socially no less batshit insane than the more fanatical fire-breathers, are not completely stupid. Like Qevin himself, they recognize that there are certain things they need to do, such as fund the government and support our allies. They are not going to vote for a complete nutbar such as Matt “Gaspedal” Gaetz or Margarine Tater-Greens. The Democrats may not be able to singlehandedly stop the Republicans from electing someone truly dangerous as Speaker of the House, but under no circumstances will the current crop of Republicans allow that to happen. In another timeline, that might have been a concern, but in that case, they would already be Speaker and we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:29:21am

re: #205 Unabogie

I look forward to the GOP whining that paying taxes late isn’t a crime, and there should be no restrictions on gun purchases, but also that Hunter Biden should be in prison for both of those things and his dad should be too for just being his dad.

That’s not beyond their power of delusion.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:30:56am

re: #207 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

One would think the other media companies should be a bit upset with the GOP for FOX getting exclusive access to this. And they well might. But they won’t say or do anything about it. (Other than maybe asking for more abuse I guess.)

The Horse Race isn’t drawing the eyeballs yet, so they’re covering a Goat Rodeo.

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Unabogie  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:33:10am

re: #209 Decatur Deb

That’s not beyond their power of delusion.

They’re the same people who think Trump is the most religious person in politics.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:33:52am

re: #195 Decatur Deb

Alexa just offered Wife a routine re-order. She said “No, Thank You”.

How polite are you to ‘bots? The answer could be quite significant.

I’m always polite with my Dodge Ram……

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:34:29am

re: #156 BeenHereAwhile

It has much to do with Taylor Swift handling her career at almost Dolly Parton levels of craft. The real status of Taylor and Travis’s relationship, I don’t have a clue. Just sit back and watch the media feed.

I can’t name any of her hit songs, but admire her public ability to perform at her level, and still project the personna of, “Look I’m in on the joke, so let’s have a good time.”

Sh’e’s made some mistakes, not controlling her initial masters was a big one, but that won’t happen again. And Kudos for bonuses paid to her production staff and crew at the end of her last tour.

So yea, even tho I haven’t purchased any of her product, I’m a fan and wish her well.

Just going to point out that Taylor Swift was 16 when her first album was released. Unless she was an emancipated minor (and I’m pretty sure she was not), some of that blame has to rest on her parents and the lawyers they engaged. In any case, she’s handling the issue of her masters, well, masterfully, by rerecording the songs and (apparently) improving them in the process.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:36:12am

re: #212 Dave In Austin

I’m always polite with my Dodge Ram……

For a couple of years after schooling with the monks and nuns, I would catch myself saying “Thank You” to vending machines. Fur reel.

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garzooma  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:39:08am

Taner Akcam, a professor of Turkish descent who has done groundbreaking research into the Armenian genocide, has a trenchant observation on anti-Armenian racism:

There is a saying in Turkish that says, the arrival of Thursday is obvious from Wednesday. Azerbaijan had even smashed the tombstones of Armenian cemeteries in Nahchivan. Now they have begun to erase Armenian traces from all places under their control. Churches are turning into mosques. Now the history of this also fits this.
I understand everything, actually trying to understand. But believe me I don’t understand why Church is converted to Mosque in 21st century. What kind of animosity is this… Isn’t it a shame?[emphasis added]

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:39:50am
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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:40:08am

Ramaswamy claims that protesters rammed his car. Iowa police: ZERO evidence it ever occurred as Ramaswamy claims. Rather, someone completely unconnected to the protest or protesters accidentally backed up into a car and was issued summons for unsafe backup.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:40:48am

Mastodon

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:42:10am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

The next Speaker will have no leverage because shutting down the government will only hurt Republicans. After a few days, the government will reopen, and aid for Ukraine will be included, because the Senate, which is united on this issue, will insist on it.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:42:46am

re: #216 Dangerman

Satan’s Tinkerbelle Strikes (out) Again

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mmmirele  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:43:33am

re: #214 Decatur Deb

For a couple of years after schooling with the monks and nuns, I would catch myself saying “Thank You” to vending machines. Fur reel.

After going to a Texas middle school, it was “yes, ma’am” and “yes, sir” for me. My younger brother got whacked in a Texas elementary school for not using the appropriate deferential language. And my sister…! My mom complained once that she couldn’t tell if my sister was being sassy or not when she said “yes, ma’am.”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:45:28am

re: #216 Dangerman
“Formal”.
Assuming the Hillary quote is accurate, it is a fairly true and totally stupid thing to say.

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Unabogie  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:46:17am

re: #216 Dangerman

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So suddenly Republicans no longer believe in conversion therapy?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:47:39am

GOP donors give up on finding a Trump alternative: ‘We’ve stopped spending money’

Awww. Haley, Tim Scott, ilDuce and the rest of the stooges have a sads…

Republicans who oppose Donald Trump are giving up and conceding that he’ll most likely win the party’s presidential nomination.

Many anti-Trump Republicans have begun to realize their favored alternatives aren’t breaking through with the GOP’s base, and they’ve scaled back their efforts to push for other presidential candidates after spending millions, reported Axios.

“We have stopped spending money in the primary,” said Sarah Longwell, head of the Republican Accountability PAC.

Win It Back PAC, which is affiliated with the conservative group Club for Growth, reportedly spent $6 million on 40 anti-Trump messages, but they’ve done nothing to dent the former president’s support.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was once seen as the most viable alternative, but two of his biggest donors - hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow and Citadel CEO Ken Griffin - have paused their support or given up on him entirely, and even Trump has largely moved on from attacking him and turned his focus to Nikki Haley.

Republican Senate candidates are lining up behind the ex-president and casting their own opponents as anti-Trump, and even GOP officials like Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who clashed with him over the 2020 election, have said they would support him if he’s the party’s nominee.

axios.com

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Mike Lamb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:50:40am

re: #151 No Malarkey!

The U.S. economy created 336,000 jobs in September, and the July and August numbers were revised upwards by 119,000. Why this is bad news for Joe Biden.

This one isn’t hard to imagine though—good job numbers has the perverse effect of causing the Fed to continue interest rate hikes until they can put enough people out of a job that inflation comes down. The additional interest rate hikes obviously raise the risk of the Fed overcooking it and missing the “soft landing.”

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:53:09am

re: #225 Mike Lamb

Let’s see if we can manage enough IT layoffs to assure adequate numbers of gift-wrap temps for Christmas.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:55:47am

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:56:59am

He’s not wrong - Gaetz told fundraisers that the Biden impeachment effort by Jordan and the House GOPers was unserious.

Well, yeah, it was completely bullshit, and the witnesses explicitly stated as much.

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lizardofid  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:57:24am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Jesus plays a Tele.

re: #140 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Jesus plays a Guitarrón.

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dat_said  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:58:10am

Daily Beast: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Judge Who Doomed His Company
NBS: Trump drops his $500 million lawsuit against former attorney Michael Cohen

All in the last 24 hours. Running out of money/lawyers? No longer an effective grift? Certainly not because he’s listening to someone’s advice.

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Florida Panhandler  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:59:45am

re: #230 dat_said

Daily Beast: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Judge Who Doomed His Company
NBS: Trump drops his $500 million lawsuit against former attorney Michael Cohen

All in the last 24 hours. Running out of money/lawyers? No longer an effective grift? Certainly not because he’s listening to someone’s advice.

Probably his lawyers demanding they all be paid multi-$$$ million retainers up front in cash.

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calochortus  Oct 6, 2023 • 7:59:50am

re: #194 mmmirele

One of my friends bought an Audi EV, but it may be too large and too expensive for you. But she likes it.

Thanks, that is a lot of money for a bigger vehicle than we want. :)

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:01:11am

re: #230 dat_said

Daily Beast: Trump Drops Lawsuit Against Judge Who Doomed His Company
NBS: Trump drops his $500 million lawsuit against former attorney Michael Cohen

All in the last 24 hours. Running out of money/lawyers? No longer an effective grift? Certainly not because he’s listening to someone’s advice.

In his lawsuit against Cohen, Trump was going to be deposed, which could only have ended badly for him.

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Dizzy  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:01:15am

re: #138 Barefoot Grin

Jesus plays a Tele.

Moses plays an Epiphone.

//I’ll show myself out.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:02:35am

re: #231 Florida Panhandler

Or that his current batch of lawyers is seeing writing on wall that every prior lawyer has gotten sanctioned, facing disbarment, and realizes that bs claims and frivolous suits are just going to get them sanctioned/disbarred to and therefore withdrawing those, all while minimizing the remaining legal bills.

Or, Trump can’t afford all the suits he’s filing, and the bill has come due.
Or, Trump thinks he’s going to get favorable review from media by withdrawing these suits?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:04:55am

re: #235 lawhawk

Or he realized that sitting in court day after day for the rest of his life is worse than being in Club Fed.

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dat_said  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:06:52am

Politico: How Trump was talked into — and out of — a run for speaker

The story triggered panic among House Republicans. It wasn’t that anyone seriously thought he’d win the 218 votes to be elected. In fact, most who were familiar with the conference’s internal dynamics believed he couldn’t even get the conference nomination, requiring a simple majority of Republicans.

Not only would he lose to Scalise or Jordan, they told him but that he could receive just a handful of votes since the nomination process is done by secret ballot — meaning Republicans were free to vote their conscience without MAGA blowback. In fact, they warned, Trump might not even be admitted to the closed-door election, which are typically held in “executive session” where outsiders and even most staff are kicked out of the room.

Panic and fear.

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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:07:18am

Mastodon

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:07:35am

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Well, at the current rate of his trial accumulation, then yeah, he could be spending a lot of time in prison.

And bankrupted for all of his legal bills on its own.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:08:35am

re: #238 jeffreyw

Star Trek?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:08:56am

Mr. Cheese got smacked down by the judge again.

Trump lawyer’s motion to dismiss likened to Monty Python’s ‘dead parrot’ in judicial smackdown

A judge on Friday made quick work of former Trump lawyer Ken Chesebro’s motion to dismiss his case based on a clerical error.

In the original motion, Chesebro argued that his case should be dismissed on the grounds that Fulton County special prosecutor Nathan Wade did not properly file his oath of office for the case in a timely fashion, which makes all the work that Wade had done on his case to that point “void as a matter of law.”

But in a ruling flagged on Twitter by Atlanta Journal Constitution reporter Tamar Hallerman, Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee put an official end to Chesebro’s longshot bid to have all charges against him dismissed.

At the end of his ruling, McAfee made reference to the famous Monty Python sketch in which a pet store owner tries to convince a customer that the dead parrot he sold him is actually alive.

“If this parrot of a motion is somehow not yet dead, the Defendant has failed to establish how Special ADA Wade’s actions resulted in prejudice, i.e., how his assignment singlehanded changed any specific actions taken during the investigation or resulted in the true bill of the indictment,” the judge argued. “Nor has Defendant established a constitutional violation or structural defect in the grand jury process sufficient to justify outright dismissal.”

“The motion is DENIED,” the judge concluded.

rawstory.com

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:10:59am

re: #241 Joe Bacon ✅

The judges are not without a sense of humor when dealing with these frivolous suits that are without merit or legal or factual basis.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:11:55am

re: #241 Joe Bacon ✅

There is a definite sense that reality is out there, starting to re-assert itself. Might get messy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:11:55am

re: #242 lawhawk

The judges are not without a sense of humor when dealing with these frivolous suits that are without merit or legal or factual basis.

Mr. Cheese’s latest motion was merely pining for the fiords…

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:12:55am

re: #23 Joe Bacon ✅

He wants to be in the Speaker’s chair when the House votes to impeach Joe and Kamala. It will be his ultimate revenge.

Political theater. Ridiculous

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sagehen  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:12:55am

re: #238 jeffreyw

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1. Star Wars, not Star Trek
2. They’re brother and sister.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:13:10am

re: #242 lawhawk

The judges are not without a sense of humor when dealing with these frivolous suits that are without merit or legal or factual basis.

If you are relying on “one weird trick” to convince a judge to dismiss criminal charges against you in a sprawling criminal conspiracy case, you are having a bad time and you will probably go to jail today. Or some time in the near future.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:15:12am

Mastodon

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:16:20am

re: #247 Nerdy Fish

I’m also thinking that Chesebro might consider a plea deal following this latest setback. My thinking is that he wanted an accelerated trial to minimize his legal bills, and these motions have all been to minimize his legal bills and now, he’s run out of the longshot claims.

That leaves a plea deal and admitting guilt.

Trial is set to begin in 2 weeks.

Crackers is in just as bad a situation.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:17:34am

RIP Dick Butkus. Died yesterday.

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lizardofid  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:19:33am

re: #74 William Lewis

Possibly the best “reaction to a song” video I’ve watched…

Her reaction really is great. Cash was such a legend. That song was so in his wheelhouse, and, as she mentioned in her comments, the production was spot on. (Shout out to Rick Rubin)

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:20:45am

re: #249 lawhawk

I think Quacken and Cheesebro were both banking on DA Willis not being ready to go with her case on such short notice. That presumes that DA Willis is ignorant of Georgia law and did not prepare for the possibility that some, most, or all of the defendants would request a speedy trial. Essentially, they called her bluff, except it wound up not being a bluff.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:21:34am

re: #231 Florida Panhandler

Probably his lawyers demanding they all be paid multi-$$$ million retainers up front in cash.

Probably realizing that being forced to testify under oath wasn’t going to turn out well for him.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:22:59am

re: #237 dat_said

Politico: How Trump was talked into — and out of — a run for speaker

Panic and fear.

and humiliation

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:23:10am

As expected…

Judge Cannon hands Trump another legal victory with pause in classified documents case

Judge Aileen Cannon has handed Donald Trump another legal win in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case.

The former president’s legal team had asked the federal judge to delay his trial in that case until after the 2024 election due to delays in creating a secure facility for him to view the documents, and Cannon granted a temporary stay while she decides whether to push back the pre-trial schedule, reported The Guardian’s Hugo Lowell.

Trump’s lawyers argued their defense is being stymied by a three-month delay in setting up a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF, in the Fort Pierce, Florida, courthouse where Cannon presides. The facility provides a safe place to view highly classified information.

Cannon ordered a SCIF to be built on an expedited timetable in July, and construction is expected to take about three months to complete.

Special counsel Jack Smith’s office had not opposed a short delay for Trump’s deadline under the Classified Information Procedures Act, but Cannon instead granted an indefinite stay.

The trial is currently scheduled to begin in May.

Gee it sure pays to pack the courts with corrupted assholes from the Federalist Society.

rawstory.com

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nines09  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:26:22am

Well got my Moderna booster yesterday and I feel fine. No rhyme, no reason, some make me ill, some do not.
I’ll take the do not.
Nice.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:27:03am

re: #255 Joe Bacon ✅

As expected…

Judge Cannon hands Trump another legal victory with pause in classified documents case

Judge Aileen Cannon has handed Donald Trump another legal win in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case.

The former president’s legal team had asked the federal judge to delay his trial in that case until after the 2024 election due to delays in creating a secure facility for him to view the documents, and Cannon granted a temporary stay while she decides whether to push back the pre-trial schedule, reported The Guardian’s Hugo Lowell.

Trump’s lawyers argued their defense is being stymied by a three-month delay in setting up a sensitive compartmented information facility, or SCIF, in the Fort Pierce, Florida, courthouse where Cannon presides. The facility provides a safe place to view highly classified information.

Cannon ordered a SCIF to be built on an expedited timetable in July, and construction is expected to take about three months to complete.

Special counsel Jack Smith’s office had not opposed a short delay for Trump’s deadline under the Classified Information Procedures Act, but Cannon instead granted an indefinite stay.

The trial is currently scheduled to begin in May.

Gee it sure pays to pack the courts with corrupted assholes from the Federalist Society.

rawstory.com

the contrast between her behavior and the other judges will be obvious

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:27:30am

re: #255 Joe Bacon ✅

…….
Gee it sure pays to pack the courts with corrupted assholes from the Federalist Society.

rawstory.com

Voters elect Republicans — that is the Court system they are going to get — as well as an explosion in voter disenfranchisement and suppression.

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Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:28:20am

re: #255 Joe Bacon ✅

To be honest, while the classified documents saga is outrageous, and I want him to go through some things for treating our nation’s secrets like his personal trophies, I always assumed the DC case would be the centerpiece. That case is the capstone at the top of the DOJ’s prosecution of 1/6, and that saga won’t be complete until he and his top-level conspirators have been served justice.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:30:13am

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:31:22am

This term SCOTUS will have to decide whether to follow the logical conclusion of its latest 2d Amendment ruling, which would be that laws banning people with DVOs from possessing firearms are unconstitutional, because in the 19th Century not only was it not illegal for men to “discipline” their wives, it was expected.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:32:12am

re: #222 Decatur Deb

“Formal”.
Assuming the Hillary quote is accurate, it is a fairly true and totally stupid thing to say.

oh she said it

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steve_davis  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:32:47am

re: #185 Hecuba’s daughter

So far, nothing has transpired that has changed my opinion that the Democrats should have helped McCarthy remain in office. He may have been a coward, liar, and untrustworthy but I remain concerned that whoever follows will be in a true believer of the traitor cult and refuse to provide aid to Ukraine.

“whoever follows him….” Whoever is going to follow him? Let Republicans burn themselves to the ground and end up with Jim “I was very good with children, but none of it was ever proven” Jordan or Steve “the nazis did many wonderful things we dare not talke about” Scalise. If Democrats want to stop being looked at as the Mommy party, then they need to stop acting like the dutiful wife who gently guides her drunk husband out of the faculty party.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:37:21am

re: #240 PhillyPretzel ✅

Star Trek?

I think the joke is a Star Trek person making fun of Star Wars, especially the dramatic irony.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:37:52am

re: #263 steve_davis

“whoever follows him….” Whoever is going to follow him? Let Republicans burn themselves to the ground and end up with Jim “I was very good with children, but none of it was ever proven” Jordan or Steve “the nazis did many wonderful things we dare not talke about” Scalise. If Democrats want to stop being looked at as the Mommy party, then they need to stop acting like the dutiful wife who gently guides her drunk husband out of the faculty party.

huffpo on liz cheney

“Jim Jordan knew more about what Donald Trump had planned for January 6th than any other member of the House of Representatives,” Cheney said. “Jim Jordan was involved, was part of the conspiracy in which Donald Trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election.”

She said Democrats made a “principled” decision in choosing not to save McCarthy’s job given his track record…

Cheney said, “I think they did exactly the right thing, and it was a courageous show of leadership.”

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:38:40am

Musk can’t even figure out how to make Premium X work, that he’s now splitting premium into tiers.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:40:01am

re: #265 Dangerman

GOPers are perfectly content with not having a speaker, and going with a speaker pro tem.

They think that this could result in a shutdown, and follow through on all the threats they’ve been making all along - wrecking the economy and somehow blaming Democrats for it (which the media will dutifully regurgitate uncritically, despite fact that it is all on the GOP).

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:40:16am

Posted this 3 years ago today.

Attention, all Grinches, Scrooges, and Puritan allies!
I am declaring a cease-fire in the War on Christmas, for this year only.
The downtrodden masses need all the good cheer they can get, even if it is an orgy of materialism*, bad music, and drunkenness rationalized by a hijacked pagan festival.
(I will even refrain from denouncing mince pies, though not pumpkin spice, since the latter is not specific to Christmas.)
*not much of that this year anyway, owing to the lack of material goods like food, clothing, shelter and medicine.

Needless to say, the truce has long since expired. You know what to do.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:40:28am

re: #262 Dangerman

oh she said it

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Sometimes there’s a lot to be said for shutting the fuck up.

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:41:18am

Top 10 worst breaches of US nat sec, courtesy of Trump leaking classified info to persons not entitled to possess it.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:41:56am

re: #267 lawhawk

GOPers are perfectly content with not having a speaker, and going with a speaker pro tem.

They think that this could result in a shutdown, and follow through on all the threats they’ve been making all along - wrecking the economy and somehow blaming Democrats for it (which the media will dutifully regurgitate uncritically, despite fact that it is all on the GOP).

it’s gonna get harder to blame on the Ds that the Rs cant elect a speaker

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TedStriker  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:42:55am

re: #240 PhillyPretzel ✅

Star Trek?

re: #246 sagehen

1. Star Wars, not Star Trek
2. They’re brother and sister.

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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:42:57am

re: #240 PhillyPretzel ✅

Star Trek?

That’s what it says on the tin.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:43:19am

re: #270 lawhawk

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Top 10 worst breaches of US nat sec, courtesy of Trump leaking classified info to persons not entitled to possess it.

selective prosecution at the minion level shows we do not take this seriously

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TedStriker  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:44:57am

re: #260 Dangerman

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In a just world, Mark Burnett would be in the dock at The Hague for enabling crimes against humanity.

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nines09  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:45:02am

re: #266 lawhawk

Elon doles out levels of access to piles of shit for the right money.
It’s a Sucker Fest of broken minds.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:51:31am

not sure if I saw this here or somewhere else in the last day or two

so here it is again


To amplify Trump? Or not to amplify? There’s actually a good answer.

The thrust of these stories should be that the current state of American politics is such that he isn’t being roundly condemned by his party even as he threatens core American values like the rule of law and freedom of the press.

These stories would ultimately be about his level of support, and why he still has any — a question we don’t raise nearly often enough as he goes further and further off the rails.

When, for instance, he accuses public officials and the media of treason punishable by death, reporters should categorically state that what he is doing is classically authoritarian behavior. Then they should ask Republican leaders and Trump supporters to say whether or not they agree with him and why.

And reporters should do that every time Trump says something alarming.

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Romantic Heretic  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:52:13am

re: #200 Belafon

I’m the same way with Siri.

I make sure to say, “Thank you,” when she’s done as well.

Can’t help it. I’m Canadian.

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 8:59:45am

Mastodon

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:00:12am

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:03:01am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

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I will have to continue to follow X, of course, because it’s part of my job.

Also; The moral case for not engaging with Bloomberg.

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Vicious Babushka  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:04:52am

He’s wrecking it harder.

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nines09  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:05:47am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

If a Nazi comes and sits with you and two friends, and you don’t get up and walk away, there are 4 Nazis at the table.

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jeffreyw  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:09:20am

Mastodon

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Charmingly Persistent  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:12:31am

re: #135 Shropshire Slasher

“It’s less about their political leanings than about the fact Taylor is a blue-state girl and Travis is a red-state boy and they’re into each other.”

Isn’t she from Tennessee?

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:16:35am

re: #279 wrenchwench

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He was pulled over for speeding and then tried to flee the scene (I like Zootopia).

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Joe Bacon ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:19:14am

‘Insanity’: Republicans appalled at plan to turn speaker race into Fox News ‘circus’

That’s Bullshit. Republicans are all in with this…

Some Republican members of the House of Representatives are not happy that the leading candidates to become the next House Speaker will be appearing on Fox News next week for what is being described as a “closed debate” hosted by Bret Baier.

Sure. Tell us another lie, CNN

CNN’s Melanie Zanona now says she’s heard from “multiple” House Republicans whom she describes as “infuriated” by the decision to turn the race into a made-for-Fox News spectacle.

“One lawmaker called it ‘insanity’ and said ‘people are pissed,’” Zanona wrote on Twitter. “Another Republican complained that this will turn their speaker’s race into a ‘circus.’ A third predicted event won’t go on as planned because of the pushback it’s already getting.”

Indeed, Zanona is reporting that several members have “already communicated those frustrations to the speaker candidates” about the planned Fox News appearance.

rawstory.com

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:22:32am

re: #260 Dangerman

Nope. The real culprits are the American voters who elected a racist buffoon. They had a much better option.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:24:55am

lol

Mastodon

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Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:25:18am

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

Nope. The real culprits are the American voters who elected a racist buffoon. They had a much better option.

The only justification for bombing Germany flat 80 years ago was that they lost control of their politics.

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dat_said  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:25:59am

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

Christopher Andrews, a Drew University sociologist who wrote “The Overworked Consumer,” told CNN last year that, far from being the autonomous money collectors retailers were hoping for, self-checkout stations required supervision, maintenance, and IT support.

Self-checkout “delivers none of what it promises,” he told the outlet.

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

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Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:28:40am

re: #291 dat_said

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

When I’m at Kroger, there’s one person watching the 8 auto checkout stations. Half of them are generally blinking, needing help, and sometimes you can end up waiting 3 or 4 minutes for the person to get to you.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:32:18am

Mastodon

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gwangung  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:37:46am

re: #291 dat_said

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

I am not as down on self-checkout as other people; I don’t mind them.

But the articles shows a systemic flaw in most business thinking (it happens time and time again), I wonder if it’ll ever get compensated for.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:39:15am

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

Nope. The real culprits are the American voters who elected a racist buffoon. They had a much better option.

yes you’re right

the apprentice is more ‘proximate cause’

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lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:40:13am

re: #289 Backwoods Sleuth

Trump truly has the worst lawyers money can buy.

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dat_said  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:40:32am

re: #293 Backwoods Sleuth

From an article three days ago: visualcapitalist.com

CEOs are still scared about a recession (84%). Federal Reserve is optimistic about avoiding one (0% chance).

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darthstar  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:41:05am

So Trump gave Jordan the kiss of death for the Speakership - his endorsement. Soon we’ll find out if every Republican is willing to go on record as supporting the attempted coup on January 6 or not.

I can’t even begin to fathom what an unmitigated disaster Jordan would be as Speaker.

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Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:41:18am

re: #291 dat_said

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

cook your own food restaurants are not new

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:42:23am

re: #292 Belafon

My local Acme has 5 self-serve checkouts monitored by one person. In most cases the regular lines are closed forcing the customers to use the self-service checkouts. That is why I go on Sunday morning when they first open because my favorite cashier has a regular lane open.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:42:32am

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:42:50am

re: #294 gwangung

I am not as down on self-checkout as other people; I don’t mind them.

But the articles shows a systemic flaw in most business thinking (it happens time and time again), I wonder if it’ll ever get compensated for.

At the local Safeway, I have a friend who I used to work with at a different store. He’s confirmed my observations of the unpleasant store manager at Safeway. When there was a line for the self-checkouts, she came up front and opened check stand #1. Nobody went to it. She had to come out and call somebody. I went, and she was nicer than usual.

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KGxvi  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:44:06am

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

Nope. The real culprits are the American voters who elected a racist buffoon. They had a much better option.

there were several witting and unwitting co-conspirators in this mess. The Apprentice producers gave him a life line. The talk radio jackasses inflated him when he went birther during the Obama years. The RNC could have (and probably should have) barred him from the debates in 2016, but they wanted ratings and were worried he’d run third party. The news networks gave him way too much free media in 2016. The Senate GOP could have convicted him in the first impeachment and ran out the clock with President Pence and would have got mostly the same policy results with slightly less chaos. The Senate GOP could have convicted him the second time and barred him from seeking office again. There are generations of bankers and prosecutors who could have rejected his loans or investigated his business dealings long before he became president. And then there are the GOP voters who decided they wanted grievances over policy.

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No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:44:40am

A month out, Andy Beshear is up 16 points over Daniel Cameron in the Kentucky Governor’s race. Andy is popular and I think Cameron is being crushed by the abortion issue. If Andy is reelected, him and his dad Steve will have gone 4-0 in governor’s races in deep red Kentucky, and Andy becomes a dark horse Presidential candidate in 2028, who could end up as someone’s VP selection if he isn’t the nominee.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:46:50am

re: #292 Belafon

When I’m at Kroger, there’s one person watching the 8 auto checkout stations. Half of them are generally blinking, needing help, and sometimes you can end up waiting 3 or 4 minutes for the person to get to you.

The supermarkets here in Ostrava all have self-checkout. I’ve only seen a couple of the machines go down, and as far as requiring assistance goes, the staff is on it quick.

I use it most of the time - we have a scan and go option, so I pick up the scanner gun on the way in (I could also use the app, which uses your camera as the scanner), scan the UPC codes as I shop, take to the automated checkout, scan the little QR code, it totals it all up, and I’m done in less than one minute. Better than waiting in ungodly long lines for 12 minutes (that’s the average wait time for a traditional cashier).

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dat_said  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:47:26am

re: #298 darthstar

So Trump gave Jordan the kiss of death for the Speakership - his endorsement. Soon we’ll find out if every Republican is willing to go on record as supporting the attempted coup on January 6 or not.

I can’t even begin to fathom what an unmitigated disaster Jordan would be as Speaker.

From what I read here politico.com - it’s a secret ballot for the nomination. They won’t have to go on record quite just yet.

the nomination process is done by secret ballot — meaning Republicans were free to vote their conscience without MAGA blowback.

The quote is about Trump but would apply to Jordan too.

307
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:48:45am

re: #294 gwangung

I am not as down on self-checkout as other people; I don’t mind them.

But the articles shows a systemic flaw in most business thinking (it happens time and time again), I wonder if it’ll ever get compensated for.

self check out is good and can be faster if:

you dont have a lot of items or multi-quantities
you know they are all labeled and scannable
you know how to use the self checkout lane (scanner gun, quantities, payment methods)
the waiting line’s not too long

grocery stores are generally more complicated because a greater percentage of fresh produce, weighing, having to look up codes by the pictures, etc

home depot etc can get more complicated when you start dealing with large carts of lots of things. then a checker can scan much fast than the average customer - especially with quantities

308
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:50:43am

re: #296 lawhawk

Trump truly has the worst lawyers money can buy. who trust a promise to pay

309
garzooma  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:51:08am

re: #297 dat_said

From an article three days ago: visualcapitalist.com

CEOs are still scared about a recession (84%). Federal Reserve is optimistic about avoiding one (0% chance).

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Given that the Fed has a lot to say about avoiding one, this is very good news.

310
KGxvi  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:52:40am

re: #307 Dangerman

yeah, I only use self-checkout if I’ve got five items or less. Although I was recently at Target and they only had one traditional lane open so I ended up using the self check out. I’m still not a big fan, but I suppose it could be worse.

311
gwangung  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:53:00am

re: #307 Dangerman

self check out is good and can be faster if:

you dont have a lot of items or multi-quantities
you know they are all labeled and scannable
you know how to use the self checkout lane (scanner gun, quantities, payment methods)
the waiting line’s not too long

grocery stores are generally more complicated because a greater percentage of fresh produce, weighing, having to look up codes by the pictures, etc

home depot etc can get more complicated when you start dealing with large carts of lots of things. then a checker can scan much fast than the average customer - especially with quantities

Yeah, pretty much so. I tend to shop 10 items or less, all items pretty well known. Straight forward, down to bagging them.

312
KGxvi  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:55:08am

re: #297 dat_said

From an article three days ago: visualcapitalist.com

CEOs are still scared about a recession (84%). Federal Reserve is optimistic about avoiding one (0% chance).

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CEOs are always scared of a recession. They tend to not be good for the bottom line or stock prices. But considering we’re averaging over a quarter of a million new jobs per month over the last three months, I don’t think we have a recession on the horizon.

(also, working in commercial construction and seeing the continued run of tenant improvement projects, I am not worried at all)

313
wrenchwench  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:55:30am

Mastodon

314
Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:57:29am

You can’t self-checkout wine or cigarettes in Alabama.

315
Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:58:45am

Oh, this is RICH!

Joshua J. Friedman @joshuajfriedman.com
*
14m
Trump seeks emergency stay of Judge Engoron’s summary-judgment order in his NY civil-fraud trial: “Supreme Court clearly does not comprehend the scope of the chaos its decision has wrought”

MISTER Trump, with all due respect (which is to say, absolutely none at all): New York has faced down bigger threats than you, and systematically dismantled them. The destruction of your empire is, in comparison to some of the legends of the past they have taken down, small potatoes.

316
PhillyPretzel ✅  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:59:34am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

Similar in Philly. No self-serve on wine.

317
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 9:59:45am

re: #288 Patricia Kayden

Nope. The real culprits are the American voters who elected a racist buffoon. They had a much better option.

Except the person millions knew was the reality show successful businessman and billionaire, a fictional character created by NBC for audience entertainment.

318
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:00:37am

re: #311 gwangung

Yeah, pretty much so. I tend to shop 10 items or less, all items pretty well known. Straight forward, down to bagging them.

just to kvetch, i saw this in whole foods the other day at the self checkout line

scan, beep put down, repeat ad nauseum
tick tock tick tock
open wallet, find credit card, process card, etc
put credit card away
take a bag
put an item in
put the next item in
etc etc etc

must have taken more than 4 minutes

i stand in line with card ready, i mean I know i’m gonna….
scan and place in bag - again i know i’m gonna…

im through in a minute

ps - at publix in the cashier lanes, i put my c/c in the slot after the first item is scanned. i’ve got my card back in my pocket before the cashier is done scanning and bagging.

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gwangung  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:01:47am

re: #312 KGxvi

CEOs are always scared of a recession. They tend to not be good for the bottom line or stock prices. But considering we’re averaging over a quarter of a million new jobs per month over the last three months, I don’t think we have a recession on the horizon.

(also, working in commercial construction and seeing the continued run of tenant improvement projects, I am not worried at all)

Commenters at ballon-juice are always commenting that people and small businesses are busy and ready to buy, not luxury items, but lots of stuff they have choice over. And, yeah, that’s not a sign of a recession if people are buying; there may be inflation, but you’re employed and buying….

320
garzooma  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:03:21am

re: #307 Dangerman

[…]

home depot etc can get more complicated when you start dealing with large carts of lots of things. then a checker can scan much fast than the average customer - especially with quantities

Home Depot has incentive to make sure their machines work: they sell sledgehammers.

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gwangung  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:03:24am

re: #317 Hecuba’s daughter

Except the person millions knew was the reality show successful businessman and billionaire, a fictional character created by NBC for audience entertainment.

Though, on the other hand, millions also saw the racism and selfishness and LIKED that.

322
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:03:40am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

You can’t self-checkout wine or cigarettes in Alabama.

re: #316 PhillyPretzel ✅

Similar in Philly. No self-serve on wine.

huh

whoda thought florida was progressive

i can check out my own wine in publix

323
nines09  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:04:06am

re: #296 lawhawk

Trump truly has the worst lawyers money can buy.

Trump has the worst lawyers he promised to pay but never will.

324
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:04:50am

re: #320 garzooma

Home Depot has incentive to make sure their machines work: they sell sledgehammers.

+1

325
BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:04:59am

re: #224 Joe Bacon ✅

GOP donors give up on finding a Trump alternative: ‘We’ve stopped spending money’

Awww. Haley, Tim Scott, ilDuce and the rest of the stooges have a sads…

Republicans who oppose Donald Trump are giving up and conceding that he’ll most likely win the party’s presidential nomination.

Many anti-Trump Republicans have begun to realize their favored alternatives aren’t breaking through with the GOP’s base, and they’ve scaled back their efforts to push for other presidential candidates after spending millions, reported Axios.

“We have stopped spending money in the primary,” said Sarah Longwell, head of the Republican Accountability PAC.

Win It Back PAC, which is affiliated with the conservative group Club for Growth, reportedly spent $6 million on 40 anti-Trump messages, but they’ve done nothing to dent the former president’s support.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was once seen as the most viable alternative, but two of his biggest donors - hotel entrepreneur Robert Bigelow and Citadel CEO Ken Griffin - have paused their support or given up on him entirely, and even Trump has largely moved on from attacking him and turned his focus to Nikki Haley.

Republican Senate candidates are lining up behind the ex-president and casting their own opponents as anti-Trump, and even GOP officials like Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp, who clashed with him over the 2020 election, have said they would support him if he’s the party’s nominee.

axios.com

People are forgetting that RFK announced his presidential campaign in March 1968.

We’re in October of the year before the election year.

There’s plenty of time for a *fresh*face* like Brian Kemp, Spencer Cox, or Glenn Youngkin to jump into the race when Trump craters.

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sizzzzlerz  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:06:55am

re: #291 dat_said

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

Already done. Tipsy Robot bar in the Planet Hollywood Hotel in Las Vegas.

Robot bartender serves drinks in Las Vegas

327
Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:07:24am

On self checkout: I have had mostly painless experiences with them, and tend to prefer them to personal interaction where possible. That being said, it appears to be a common fallacy that businesses look at fancy automation and assume it will be a self-maintaining utopian solution. “Just install it, fire all your workers, and reap the benefits!” the salesmen cry happily. There is no consideration given to the fact that machines are built in the real world, and in the real world, SHIT BREAKS DOWN. Radiation fries computer chips and causes software to go haywire. Weather plays havoc with wireless signals, power distribution, and uneven expansion and contraction that leads to accelerated wear. Lubricants eventually disappear from surfaces. Aggravated customers beat and bang on machines and cause unseen damage. (Especially when it comes to cash; ever seen someone go apeshit on a vending machine?) IT’S NEVER FREE. Automated solutions always come with overhead, but they never think about that when they have dollar signs in their eyes.

328
Hecuba's daughter  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:08:49am

re: #310 KGxvi

yeah, I only use self-checkout if I’ve got five items or less. Although I was recently at Target and they only had one traditional lane open so I ended up using the self check out. I’m still not a big fan, but I suppose it could be worse.

Our 24 hour Woodman’s has no traditional lanes from about 10 PM to (maybe) 7 AM. But I’m ok with that — just to have the convenience of 24 hour service. I use self-service in stores only when in a hurry with only a couple items.

329
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:09:56am

Troy Nehls announced Trump’s endorsement of Jordan.

so he ruined tfgs attempt to gain publicity by traveling to Capitol Hill next week

now tfg’s team is discussing why go at all

shorter: if there’s nothing in it for ME!!! why bother?

330
BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:11:25am

re: #250 lawhawk

RIP Dick Butkus. Died yesterday.

Off the field - nice guy to deal with.

331
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:16:07am

re: #271 Dangerman

it’s gonna get harder to blame on the Ds that the Rs cant elect a speaker

But of course it’s the Dems fault for not automatically voting for whomever the Rs nominate!
///

332
nines09  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:16:20am

Not surprising at all to me. Notice the names of the dead. Probably told them they walk out, they’re fired.
Probably had a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy do the gas line work.
Same as it ever was.

West Reading chocolate factory did not evacuate employees before explosion despite gas leak, federal investigation finds
Officials from the popular Pennsylvania candy company failed to evacuate workers after several reported a natural gas odor, the OSHA report found.

333
Dr Lizardo  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:17:23am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

You can’t self-checkout wine or cigarettes in Alabama.

Interesting - here in Czech Republic, you can do it. No problem. You scan the item, and the clerk will come, make sure you are indeed 18 and they hit “proceed” on the touch screen.

334
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:17:42am

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Sometimes there’s a lot to be said for shutting the fuck up.

Why? She’s 100% right.

335
No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:19:11am

re: #334 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why? She’s 100% right.

She’ll never be a candidate again, so Clinton can say what she really thinks without getting pummeled for it.

336
BeenHereAwhile  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:19:45am

re: #252 Nerdy Fish

I think Quacken and Cheesebro were both banking on DA Willis not being ready to go with her case on such short notice. That presumes that DA Willis is ignorant of Georgia law and did not prepare for the possibility that some, most, or all of the defendants would request a speedy trial. Essentially, they called her bluff, except it wound up not being a bluff.

They FA’d, and found out that you don’t underestimate a competent, ambitious, pissed off, black lady DA who doesn’t get mad, she gets even.

Even Brian Kemp does not eff with with Fani Willis.

337
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:20:01am

just thinking

tfg is still whining that he’s not getting a jury trial

based on some comments that because the AG is only seeking equitable relief, it seems a jury trial is not available under New York law

forget that his attorneys didnt ask for one. maybe they knew this.

seems to me that makes his continued ranting about a jury trial even more pathetic

and that’s even besides that these people dont care what’s true

338
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:21:18am

re: #331 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

But of course it’s the Dems fault for not automatically voting for whomever the Rs nominate!
///

well they havent been given an opportunity yet ///

339
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:21:58am

re: #298 darthstar

So Trump gave Jordan the kiss of death for the Speakership - his endorsement. Soon we’ll find out if every Republican is willing to go on record as supporting the attempted coup on January 6 or not.

I can’t even begin to fathom what an unmitigated disaster Jordan would be as Speaker.

Poster boy of “Rule of Law doesn’t apply to Republicans” since he refused to obey a Congressional subpoena. It’s pretty much what will be mentioned every time his name comes up in relation to any subpoena action in Congress anywhere near where he is involved.

340
Belafon  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:22:00am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

You can’t self-checkout wine or cigarettes in Alabama.

Here in Texas, it requires the checkout monitor to verify your address, something they would have done if they had been doing the checkout for you.

341
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:23:24am

re: #286 Belafon

He was pulled over for speeding and then tried to flee the scene (I like Zootopia).

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick!

342
No Malarkey!  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:25:51am

I’m starting to believe Trump will face justice before election day.

343
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:28:43am

re: #291 dat_said

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

There’s a restaurant by where I used to live that has indoor BBQ pits, huge ones. You’d buy a steak (think 2” thick T-Bone) and cook it yourself. They’d serve all the sides, soup, salad, whatever, but you’d cook your own steak.

I loved that place!

344
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:29:29am

re: #318 Dangerman

just to kvetch, i saw this in whole foods the other day at the self checkout line

scan, beep put down, repeat ad nauseum
tick tock tick tock
open wallet, find credit card, process card, etc
put credit card away
take a bag
put an item in
put the next item in
etc etc etc

must have taken more than 4 minutes

i stand in line with card ready, i mean I know i’m gonna….
scan and place in bag - again i know i’m gonna…

im through in a minute

ps - at publix in the cashier lanes, i put my c/c in the slot after the first item is scanned. i’ve got my card back in my pocket before the cashier is done scanning and bagging.

I bring my own canvas bags and often after I punch in my discount card info I start bagging the stuff myself* while the cashier is still scanning it. When the cashier is done I put my c/c in the slot since I have it ready. And then one of us finishes bagging the remaining items. Sometimes the cashier thanks me for helping with the bagging work.

* - I am picky about how items are loaded into bags. (I blame my mother.) Some cashiers/baggers just toss things in as they pile up and apparently have not been trained well about how to handle more delicate items. I also try to control the process somewhat by putting my canned goods and tougher items on the belt first so that they are there to put in the bottom of the bag first.

345
Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:33:39am

re: #322 Dangerman

huh

whoda thought florida was progressive

i can check out my own wine in publix

In Alabama a checkout clerk younger than 21 can’t handle booze or cigs.

346
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:33:41am

re: #270 lawhawk

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Top 10 worst breaches of US nat sec, courtesy of Trump leaking classified info to persons not entitled to possess it.

Just pointing out that trump did this so many times there’s a freaking top 10 list

347
lawhawk  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:37:16am

re: #346 Dangerman

Not included in the top 10 - keeping all those classified materials in the fucking bathroom that is locked from the inside, and anyone could access.

348
Decatur Deb  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:37:50am

re: #334 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Why? She’s 100% right.

I said it was fairly true, but calling for ‘Formal’ deprogramming just fed the RW assholes another year or two of ‘re-education centers’, ‘gulags’, etc. It was all unneeded.

349
Nerdy Fish  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:39:12am

re: #348 Decatur Deb

I said it was fairly true, but calling for ‘Formal’ deprogramming just fed the RW assholes another year or two of ‘re-education centers’, ‘gulags’, etc. It was all unneeded.

It’s “basket of deplorables” all over again. She’s not wrong, but it’s a PR nightmare.

350
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:39:16am

re: #344 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I bring my own canvas bags and often after I punch in my discount card info I start bagging the stuff myself* while the cashier is still scanning it. When the cashier is done I put my c/c in the slot since I have it ready. And then one of us finishes bagging the remaining items. Sometimes the cashier thanks me for helping with the bagging work.

* - I am picky about how items are loaded into bags. (I blame my mother.) Some cashiers/baggers just toss things in as they pile up and apparently have not been trained well about how to handle more delicate items. I also try to control the process somewhat by putting my canned goods and tougher items on the belt first so that they are there to put in the bottom of the bag first.

yes Yes YES!!!

And then they ignore it….

351
Dangerman  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:57:08am

re: #347 lawhawk

Not included in the top 10 - keeping all those classified materials in the fucking bathroom that is locked from the inside, and anyone could access.

And in that case he’s “only” accused of possessing, not disseminating!

352
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 6, 2023 • 10:58:28am

re: #314 Decatur Deb

You can’t self-checkout wine or cigarettes in Alabama.

In Idaho you can checkout beer/wine at a self check station but it locks up the terminal until a human comes and checks ID if needed and then enters a code to unlock the terminal. Cigarettes have to bought from a human cashier though.

353
BeachDem  Oct 6, 2023 • 11:34:05am

re: #291 dat_said

Insider: Retailers appear to be facing a self-checkout reckoning

I’m certain at least one Silicon Valley start-up has pitched a “cook your own meal” restaurant where you punch in your order at a kiosk, a little robot gathers and preps your meal, and then delivers it to your cook station where the appliances have been properly programmed. Just think of all the labor cost savings.

Now that I’m thinking about it, is there someone out there making an automatic cocktail dispenser? I may have to call up some of my VC friends if there isn’t.

Kramer’s Pizza Pie Plan | Male Unbonding | Seinfeld

354
TedStriker  Oct 6, 2023 • 2:13:55pm

re: #332 nines09

Not surprising at all to me. Notice the names of the dead. Probably told them they walk out, they’re fired.
Probably had a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy do the gas line work.
Same as it ever was.

West Reading chocolate factory did not evacuate employees before explosion despite gas leak, federal investigation finds
Officials from the popular Pennsylvania candy company failed to evacuate workers after several reported a natural gas odor, the OSHA report found.

R.M. Palmer.. typically the cheapest shit milk chocolate (to me, it makes Hershey’s butyric acid-heavy chocolate taste like ambrosia) floating around the dollar stores and on the discount shelves at Wal-Mart and Kroger during Christmas and Easter.

Given that, how this story is unfolding isn’t really surprising me.

355
Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:44:47pm

re: #191 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

at which point they would have ousted him

AGAIN!!

356
Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:47:19pm

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

again, Job Creators and Hedge Fund Managers are the only Americans who matter

Worker creators be damned

357
Eventual Carrion  Oct 6, 2023 • 6:49:15pm

re: #198 wrenchwench

I eliminated all the incorrect possibilities with my first guess. /

Wordle 839 2/6*

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Boom


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