Saturday Jam: Bonnie Raitt, “Unintended Consequence of Love”
Now that’s a groove
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This, my friends, is what is known to musicians as an insanely deep pocket. Bonnie Raitt brings the major funk on her new album.
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I’m going to be picking up a vinyl copy of her new record this Tuesday (also the new one by the James Hunter band). Been a fan of Bonnie since the Give It Up album came out.
I heard bits of a bunch of songs off this album, and it was Sooper!
In re: people who think Twitter is censoring hashtags.
Does anyone know how to search twitter trends by date and time? Any graphs involved?(I love graphs)
Ayatollah Mesbah Yazdi lost. The spiritual leader of the Resistance Front who gave us Ahmadinejad et al. pic.twitter.com/hCL74vNBUM
— Negar نگار (@NegarMortazavi) February 27, 2016
Iran final election results are not announced yet. Poll monitors say the final results will not make the hardliners happy.
— Negar نگار (@NegarMortazavi) February 27, 2016
Hatchling says LGF should give no attention to the raving, freakazoid nut sandwich. I guess a green football avatar does resemble an egg. I can’t believe the video is almost 6 years old already.
From last thread:
Three people were stabbed, one critically, and several others arrested when a Ku Klux Klan rally in Anaheim erupted in violence Saturday, police said.
A small group of people representing the Klan had announced that it would hold a rally at Pearson Park at 1:30 p.m., police said. By 11 a.m., several dozen protesters showed up at the park to confront the Klan.
About an hour later, several men in black garb with Confederate flag patches arrived and were escorted by police around the edge of the park.
Violence erupted and some of the counter-protesters could be seen kicking a man whose shirt read “Grand Dragon.” At some point, a counter-protester collapsed on the ground bleeding, crying that he had been stabbed.
A Klansman in handcuffs could be heard telling a police officer that he “stabbed him in self-defense.” Several other people were also handcuffed.
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
From last thread:
it’s really fucked up that we’re still dealing with the KKK after all these years.
I don’t know what the poutragers have been doing (we know it wasn’t voting in 2010 & 2014), but WE OUTCHEA, FAM! https://t.co/F0Iew4zwN7
— Blackerys Targaryen (@EbonyStarr5) February 27, 2016
South Carolina’s black voters turned out early en masse https://t.co/jiS9igYwC9 pic.twitter.com/8Dh1aYSA6S
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) February 27, 2016
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
From last thread:
Allowing public demonstrations is one thing. Allowing terrorist organizations to operate openly can only lead to bad things. We wouldn’t let Deash demonstrate in a US city; the same standard should apply to the Klan.
re: #11 Big Beautiful Door
Allowing public demonstrations is one thing. Allowing terrorist organizations to operate openly can only lead to bad things. We wouldn’t let Deash demonstrate in a US city; the same standard should apply to the Klan.
I very much agree with this. The KKK is a terrorist organization.
re: #7 goddamnedfrank
From last thread:
The slideshow in this article seems to show an American flag on a lightweight pole at the stabbing spot.
re: #12 HappyWarrior
I very much agree with this. The KKK is a terrorist organization.
The KKK went Muslim? I hadn’t heard…
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re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They’ll call this one for Clinton early I’m thinking. I think it’ll be a big win for her.
The #WhereWasBLM hashtag is a good current source of lulz.
Dr. Sleepy has issues. https://t.co/DCDAZTKK5Q @Bencjacobs
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2016
Trump just complained that the USA hasn’t sold any missiles to Iran.
Trump complaining that Iran is ordering missiles from outside of the United States. https://t.co/moYjhgaXXL
— Josh Jordan (@NumbersMuncher) February 27, 2016
#WhereWasBLM When this happened to Gregory Hines? pic.twitter.com/49pN5unKoK
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 27, 2016
re: #19 Danack
Trump just complained that the USA hasn’t sold any missiles to Iran.
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This is the GOP frontrunner huh. Good luck guys.
Is there though a small possibility that Trump is saying we didn’t have a response to that?I hate to give the asshole a bod.
re: #22 HappyWarrior
This is the GOP frontrunner huh. Good luck guys.
This is the guy that the senate is shutting down to wait for.
re: #24 stpaulbear
This is the guy that the senate is shutting down to wait for.
It boggles the mind, sometimes. I have to wonder, though - what happens if the American people pick a GOP candidate that the GOP machine don’t like? Will they let Obama push through his nominee then?
re: #25 thedopefishlives
It boggles the mind, sometimes. I have to wonder, though - what happens if the American people pick a GOP candidate that the GOP machine don’t like? Will they let Obama push through his nominee then?
Not a chance, because, Obama.
re: #26 Big Beautiful Door
Not a chance, because, Obama.
Oh, I know. It was a rhetorical question. It’s an interesting thought experiment; perhaps Obama’s nominee would be more palatable to them than, say, Trump’s. Or Hillary’s.
re: #25 thedopefishlives
It boggles the mind, sometimes. I have to wonder, though - what happens if the American people pick a GOP candidate that the GOP machine don’t like? Will they let Obama push through his nominee then?
I talked to my mom a little bit about the Christie endorsement yesterday while walking to the hockey game. I don’t talk politics a lot with my mom because she’s a little prone to MBFing things, and not quite as socially liberal as I am, but she is INCREDIBLY anti-Trump.
I don’t know. I see a lot online where people are supporting Trump and I don’t doubt that this is crazy and dangerous and yet part of me still wants to hope that people aren’t that stupid.
Which is probably naive and silly, but.
Monday: “WE HATE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! SUCK IT UP PUSSIES!”
Tuesday: “WE NEED TO REWRITE THE LIBEL LAWS!” @mckaycoppins @MMonides— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 27, 2016
re: #25 thedopefishlives
It boggles the mind, sometimes. I have to wonder, though - what happens if the American people pick a GOP candidate that the GOP machine don’t like? Will they let Obama push through his nominee then?
I think the Senate GOP has convinced itself that the GOP will both retain the Senate (and House) and win the presidency in 2016, with absolute certainty.
re: #19 Danack
Trump just complained that the USA hasn’t sold any missiles to Iran.
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The US is the absolute last country Iran would buy missiles from. During the Falklands War Margaret Thatcher used the threat of a nuclear strike on Argentina to cajole the defeat codes for all Exocet missiles from France. Ever since then countries have been much more circumspect about how they source their complex weapon systems.
The Onion called it https://t.co/XuoNhSVHhJ @MMonides @mckaycoppins
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) February 27, 2016
re: #28 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well, and we have to keep in mind the possibility of the Luap Nor effect; sometimes things appear to be magnified via the Internet. I don’t doubt that Trump’s support is real and dangerous, but will it be enough to win him the nomination? Maybe not. And if it does, it’s even less likely to win him the election.
re: #30 EPR-radar
I think the Senate GOP has convinced itself that the GOP will both retain the Senate (and House) and win the presidency in 2016, with absolute certainty.
Ah, so, the Mitt Romney school of thought.
Maybe the supposed Bernie youth around me just aren’t showing it, but I see college kids daily now with Trump shirts and stickers on their computers. Not in great numbers, but they’re there.
re: #33 thedopefishlives
Well, and we have to keep in mind the possibility of the Luap Nor effect; sometimes things appear to be magnified via the Internet. I don’t doubt that Trump’s support is real and dangerous, but will it be enough to win him the nomination? Maybe not. And if it does, it’s even less likely to win him the election.
At this point, I’m not discounting the support he’s gotten. He’s won states. Multiple. More than any other candidate. Polls suggest that he is going to win the nomination.
I’m looking at the general now. And it is pretty terrifying.
re: #23 HappyWarrior
Is there though a small possibility that Trump is saying we didn’t have a response to that?I hate to give the asshole a bod.
No, he really said it in the context of US trade. It’s about 43-44 minutes into this:
Twitter feels so empty without @rsmccain, @adambaldwin and @yesnicksearcy to spew random abuse at people.
(Not.)— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) February 27, 2016
re: #33 thedopefishlives
Well, and we have to keep in mind the possibility of the Luap Nor effect; sometimes things appear to be magnified via the Internet. I don’t doubt that Trump’s support is real and dangerous, but will it be enough to win him the nomination? Maybe not. And if it does, it’s even less likely to win him the election.
Trumpism may be magnified by the internet, but it is also there on the ground in terms of votes. More like than not, super tuesday will put Trump firmly on the path to the GOP nomination.
Meanwhile, Hillary is crushing Bernie in South Carolina.
re: #33 thedopefishlives
Well, and we have to keep in mind the possibility of the Luap Nor effect; sometimes things appear to be magnified via the Internet. I don’t doubt that Trump’s support is real and dangerous, but will it be enough to win him the nomination? Maybe not. And if it does, it’s even less likely to win him the election.
When you look at the polls, Trump’s support is real. We know the polls are accurate because of the landslide victories he has won in the last three contests. His support cuts across the entire ideological spectrum of the GOP, from very conservative, to conservative, to moderate. Barring a miraculous turnaround, he will be the GOP nominee for President. The good news is that he is extremely unpopular with Democrats, independents and Hispanics, so he is unlikely to win the presidency.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
Yeah, but what’s gonna happen in Rhode Island? Bernie will come roaring back/
re: #42 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN
Yeah, but what’s gonna happen in Rhode Island? Bernie will come roaring back/
Rhodies don’t get to vote until April 26. I think the REVOlution will be OVER by then.
re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Final numbers are 53,986 ballots returned, 41,028 from black voters (76 percent).
Sam Wang posted his projected delegate totals for Tuesday:
Trump 272, Cruz 196, Rubio 82, Kasich 10, Carson 8
re: #46 worldknot
Sam Wang posted his projected delegate totals for Tuesday:
Trump 272, Cruz 196, Rubio 82, Kasich 10, Carson 8
That sounds awfully generous for Cruz. Texas isn’t WTA, and I don’t think he’s doing that well in the rest of the South.
re: #43 Brian J.
Rhodies don’t get to vote until April 26. I think the REVOlution will be OVER by then.
There was recently an incredibly lengthy and detailed analysis of Sanders’ possible paths to the (D) nomination on Daily Kos.
It would be truly remarkable if the CA primary in June ended up being important, as several of these scenarios called for.
re: #40 Charles Johnson
Meanwhile, Hillary is crushing Bernie in South Carolina.
The poutrage will overflow the Twitter servers by midnight.
re: #48 Tigger2
DK will be full of conspiracy theory diaries tonight.
That would be ridiculous, but is likely. Nobody thought Sanders would win or even come close in South Carolina.
re: #19 Danack
Trump just complained that the USA hasn’t sold any missiles to Iran.
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Guys, we have found the true heir to the Reagan legacy right here.
re: #46 worldknot
Sam Wang posted his projected delegate totals for Tuesday:
Trump 272, Cruz 196, Rubio 82, Kasich 10, Carson 8
That will keep Cruz in the race, and Trump will finish Rubio off on March 15 when he wins Florida, barring a big Rubio comeback.
How fucking politically segregated is South Carolina? Black voters constituted 1% of the GOP Primary, 61% of Democratic. #SCPrimary
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 27, 2016
re: #49 EPR-radar
There was recently an incredibly lengthy and detailed analysis of Sanders’ possible paths to the (D) nomination on Daily Kos.
It would be truly remarkable if the CA primary in June ended up being important, as several of these scenarios called for.
Well, I’m happy to vote in it.
But I really don’t think it will be important. You know what? I’ll be voting anyway.
re: #51 EPR-radar
That would be ridiculous, but is likely. Nobody thought Sanders would win or even come close in South Carolina.
I have read some of the diaries over there and some of those people thought Bernie would win every caucus.
(1/2) Over 4/5 Dem #SCprimary voters say reducing gun violence more important than protecting gun rights pic.twitter.com/ITWmtok6q8
— CBS News Politics (@CBSPolitics) February 27, 2016
re: #49 EPR-radar
There was recently an incredibly lengthy and detailed analysis of Sanders’ possible paths to the (D) nomination on Daily Kos.
It would be truly remarkable if the CA primary in June ended up being important, as several of these scenarios called for.
I suspect those scenarios involve a lot of wishful thinking.
re: #46 worldknot
Sam Wang posted his projected delegate totals for Tuesday:
Trump 272, Cruz 196, Rubio 82, Kasich 10, Carson 8
Looking at his vote shares, Wang has 7 percent of Republican voters not voting for any of these candidates (That is, the total vote share for these guys is 93 percent). That seems awfully unlikely, and even one or two extra points would help Rubio immensely.
re: #48 Tigger2
DK will be full of conspiracy theory diaries tonight.
Preliminary exit poll results: More than 7 in 10 #SCPrimary voters say Clinton is honest, versus 6 in 10 for Sanders https://t.co/7scz7MNDFi
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) February 27, 2016
yep
On the topic of fascism, the Ur-Fascism article by Umberto Eco includes this FDR quote (emphasis added).
I venture the challenging statement that if American democracy ceases to move forward as a living force, seeking day and night by peaceful means to better the lot of our citizens, fascism will grow in strength in our land.
It is certainly true that today’s GOP is pretty much the exact opposite of “a living force, seeking day and night by peaceful means to better the lot of our citizens”.
re: #54 goddamnedfrank
1% for the Republicans is too high, of course.
re: #52 Timothy Watson
Guys, we have found the true heir to the Reagan legacy right here.
Boom! You win the thread!
re: #62 EPR-radar
1% for the Republicans is too high, of course.
That is literally true of their absentee votes- they had 479 black absentee votes out of more than 60,000 cast.
re: #56 Tigger2
I have read some of the diaries over there and some of those people thought Bernie would win every caucus.
Primaries and caucuses are very different, and I would expect Sanders to do better in caucuses than in primaries.
re: #54 goddamnedfrank
GOP going to try and get rid of that 1% of minorities who did vote for them. @goddamnedfrank
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) February 27, 2016
Bernie is probably going to do really well in Minneapolis although I’m not sure about the rest of the state. Keith Ellison has endorsed him. I still think Hillary will win statewide.
I’ve been to a couple of caucuses in the past and I’m not a big fan of the system. I’m fairly safe in that my district pretty well represents what I want anyway (although we may swing to Bernie due to an influx of young artists to my neighborhood). I can’t go this Tuesday because I have to be in Minneapolis at the same time as the caucus.
re: #65 EPR-radar
Primaries and caucuses are very different, and I would expect Sanders to do better in caucuses than in primaries.
To me they are all the same they vote for the person they want to get the nomination.
re: #58 Big Beautiful Door
I suspect those scenarios involve a lot of wishful thinking.
That was my thought at well. Even if I commented at Daily Kos, I would have said nothing about it there. It was like an entire cathedral of wishful thinking and it would be rude to take a wrecking ball to it.
re: #37 KingKenrod
No, he really said it in the context of US trade. It’s about 43-44 minutes into this:
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Thanks. Holy shit.
re: #67 stpaulbear
Bernie is probably going to do really well in Minneapolis although I’m not sure about the rest of the state. Keith Ellison has endorsed him. I still think Hillary will win statewide.
I’ve been to a couple of caucuses in the past and I’m not a big fan of the system. I’m fairly safe in that my district pretty well represents what I want anyway (although we may swing to Bernie due to an influx of young artists to my neighborhood). I can’t go this Tuesday because I have to be in Minneapolis at the same time as the caucus.
I prefer primaries too. In and out. Never have caucused before though.
I am thinking about buying an SSD to supplement my HDD but do I really want to go to the trouble of reinstalling Windows?
re: #52 Timothy Watson
Guys, we have found the true heir to the Reagan legacy right here.
Okay pay up guys. We have a winner.
re: #73 Timothy Watson
I am thinking about buying an SSD to supplement my HDD but do I really want to go to the trouble of reinstalling Windows?
Yes.
The performance increase is worth it.
re: #68 Tigger2
To me they are all the same they vote for the person they want to get the nomination.
A primary is pretty much a normal election.
A caucus is where party activists gather together, make their views known and try to persuade other caucus-goers to support their candidates. Turnouts are much smaller than in a primary election, and skew very strongly towards people with the time and energy to devote several hours to something like this.
So it is reductionist to the point of error to view them as being the same because people are voting for candidates.
People, sheesh.
@Bunker555 I’d advise that you take a look at my timeline and then reconsider the fucking tone you’re taking with me.
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 27, 2016
re: #73 Timothy Watson
I am thinking about buying an SSD to supplement my HDD but do I really want to go to the trouble of reinstalling Windows?
I will add: get one big enough to cover your needs for a long time.
I just updated my 120gig (which was too small) to a 1TB (thanks in-laws!) which is good because I was out of room. Entirely.
Sexy, sexy SSD.
re: #79 klys (maker of Silmarils)
I will add: get one big enough to cover your needs for a long time.
I just updated my 120gig (which was too small) to a 1TB (thanks in-laws!) which is good because I was out of room. Entirely.
Sexy, sexy SSD.
I have 2 250GB jobs, one in each tower. They’re small-ish, but plenty enough for our purposes.
I finally finished a bicycle that has been here since before my accident. Nothing difficult, but it was also nothing pressing. Its owner is an old guy with a long, white mustache who calls me ‘mija’ [pronounced mee-ha, it is a contraction meaning ‘my daughter’]. He comes in regularly to give me a hug and ‘see how I’m doing’. When I called him, he was out of town, taking care of his very old, very feeble father. I’ll get my hug (and get rid of the bike) next week.
re: #77 EPR-radar
A primary is pretty much a normal election.
A caucus is where party activists gather together, make their views known and try to persuade other caucus-goers to support their candidates. Turnouts are much smaller than in a primary election, and skew very strongly towards people with the time and energy to devote several hours to something like this.
So it is reductionist to the point of error to view them as being the same because people are voting for candidates.
By the time I go to vote my mind is made up who I’m going to vote for. and I’m sure most people are like that someone talking isn’t going to change that.
re: #77 EPR-radar
A primary is pretty much a normal election.
A caucus is where party activists gather together, make their views known and try to persuade other caucus-goers to support their candidates. Turnouts are much smaller than in a primary election, and skew very strongly towards people with the time and energy to devote several hours to something like this.
So it is reductionist to the point of error to view them as being the same because people are voting for candidates.
Anyone know how long they’ve been doing caucuses?
re: #80 thedopefishlives
I have 2 250GB jobs, one in each tower. They’re small-ish, but plenty enough for our purposes.
Well. It does depend on what you want on them. But WoW + Adobe stuff + OS + …it adds up. Even if you shift things like the user folder off to another drive, which works for about half of it. Why hello AppData.
Now I can have everything on there and enjoy that space-y goodness.
I have 3 2TB drives for actual storage purposes.
re: #82 Tigger2
By the time I go to vote my mind is made up who I’m going to vote for. and I’m sure most people are like that someone talking isn’t going to change that.
Right. I think I’ve had one time where I had no idea who I was voting for going in.
re: #84 klys (maker of Silmarils)
Well. It does depend on what you want on them. But WoW + Adobe stuff + OS + …it adds up. Even if you shift things like the user folder off to another drive, which works for about half of it. Why hello AppData.
Now I can have everything on there and enjoy that space-y goodness.
I have 3 2TB drives for actual storage purposes.
My only 1TB hard drive bit the dust back in 2014, costing me my entire collection of legacy games and videos. I’ve never really used much storage aside from that collection; the rest of my systems all have less than 500GB.
I voted around 3 pm—like to go mid-afternoon to see how the numbers look. I was #85, and when I voted, I was the only person there. As I was leaving, a Bernie guy came in and 5 or 6 older ladies. So that brought it up to 90 or so. I’ve voted in some local elections where only 50 or so Dems show up in the precinct.
re: #71 HappyWarrior
I prefer primaries too. In and out. Never have caucused before though.
The democratic caucuses I’ve been to were incredibly well organized and usually run by people who could do it in their sleep. They’re either highly experienced or well trained. That said, it feels a bit like sorting cattle, and there’s lots of cajoling to get you to volunteer for the next level (which I did once). Lots of mundane business matters to attend to, and everyone gets their say regarding motions.
edit: and you have to be there on time - unlike a primary.
re: #86 thedopefishlives
My only 1TB hard drive bit the dust back in 2014, costing me my entire collection of legacy games and videos. I’ve never really used much storage aside from that collection; the rest of my systems all have less than 500GB.
I didn’t intend to get 3. I bought one because I was frustrated and wanted to consolidate …and my birthday was a week later and my in-laws gave me two more.
So I’m really set on plenty of storage space. :D
re: #88 stpaulbear
The democratic caucuses I’ve been to were incredibly well organized and usually run by people who could do it in their sleep. They’re either highly experienced or well trained. That said, it feels a bit like sorting cattle, and there’s lots of cajoling to get you to volunteer for the next level (which I did once). Lots of mundane business matters to attend to, and everyone gets their say regarding motions.
Yeah it just sounds tedious.
re: #83 HappyWarrior
Anyone know how long they’ve been doing caucuses?
From 1800 to 1824 the American Caucus was used to nominate Party candidates for the office of President and Vice-President, but in 1824 the Party Convention system was adopted and took the place of the former caucus nominations. From that time on there is a twofold use of the word, on the one hand for any conference group working in congress or another legislative body, but also for the vestigial Presidential caucus which has survived as a pre-voting Party conference with the same agenda as it had in the pre-1824 period.
re: #73 Timothy Watson
I am thinking about buying an SSD to supplement my HDD but do I really want to go to the trouble of reinstalling Windows?
Running Windows from an SSD is great. Boots up in seconds instead of minutes.
Oh look, Trump found yet another white nutter to quote-tweet:
“@NeilTurner_: @realDonaldTrump There’s only one real candidate, and it’s you! Donors control the other candidates! #VoteTrump” Thank you.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 27, 2016
Another RT from Trump that is beyond questionable. Feature not a bug. #NeverTrump pic.twitter.com/tLFdz6fHpr
— Andrew Staroska (@astaroska) February 27, 2016
Yeah, Trump’s a racist. He’s pandering to racists. And continues doing so regardless of whoever points this out.
re: #93 lawhawk
Oh look, Trump found yet another white nutter to quote-tweet:
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Yeah, Trump’s a racist. He’s pandering to racists. And continues doing so regardless of whoever points this out.
It’s his base.
re: #95 HappyWarrior
It’s his base.
It is the GOP. That’s who’s supporting him. That’s the base. Make no mistake.
But that Trump continues picking out random people who happen to be white supremacists? It’s as though he’s going out of his way to find them.
re: #73 Timothy Watson
I am thinking about buying an SSD to supplement my HDD but do I really want to go to the trouble of reinstalling Windows?
Yep. What everyone else said, best upgrade for the bucks for an existing system.
You should be able to copy your existing boot drive to the SSD and then just boot from that drive afterwards. 250GB is a decent size for OS and programs which make the best use of the extra speed. Put all your data, media etc. on another drive — you can repurpose your existing HDD for that. You may need to compress partitions to do the copy.
Backup everything important before you attempt this though.
Backup everything important before you attempt this though.
Backup everything important before you attempt this though.
If you’re not sure how to do it drop fifty bucks at a reputable computer store to do it for you, or find a five-year-old child and pay her five bucks instead.
re: #96 lawhawk
It is the GOP. That’s who’s supporting him. That’s the base. Make no mistake.
But that Trump continues picking out random people who happen to be white supremacists? It’s as though he’s going out of his way to find them.
Yeah it’s something else.
re: #95 HappyWarrior
It’s his base.
Which has an exceedingly high overlap with the GOP base. Nationwide, there might be as many as several dozen members of the GOP base that vote GOP only in order to reduce taxes for the Koch brothers. These few and proud orthodox GOPers will not fall for the likes of Trump.
For everyone else, it’s all about hating on others.
re: #100 EPR-radar
Which has an exceedingly high overlap with the GOP base. Nationwide, there might be as many as several dozen members of the GOP base that vote GOP only in order to reduce taxes for the Koch brothers. These few and proud orthodox GOPers will not fall for the likes of Trump.
For everyone else, its all about hating on others.
No doubt. It’s so so fucked up. And to think I have family that support this racist asshole.
re: #83 HappyWarrior
Anyone know how long they’ve been doing caucuses?
I went to my first caucus in 1972 so I could support George McGovern. I had just turned 18 and Vietnam was still a thing. I went with a friend and we were the only two McGovern supporters there.
Trouble was, I didn’t live anywhere near my friend, so I was at the wrong caucus. I had no idea how they worked.
Jan Brewer endorses Trump, frets about “our open, bleeding border.” pic.twitter.com/BCAMy7wiVV
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) February 27, 2016
And the hit parade of xenophobes and ignoramuses endorsing Trump rolls on.
Evening Lizards and hope y’all’s Saturday went well.
The only questions tonight is how big HRC’s win will be in SC and how badly the cross Berners will react.
re: #11 Big Beautiful Door
Allowing public demonstrations is one thing. Allowing terrorist organizations to operate openly can only lead to bad things. We wouldn’t let Deash demonstrate in a US city; the same standard should apply to the Klan.
The problem is that there is no such thing as THE Klan, with a corporate existence that could be held accountable for actions committed under its name. There hasn’t been since 1944, when the 1915 Klan was dissolved for failure to pay its taxes. Instead we have an endless array of small, often temporary groups, that flit in and out of existence like maggots and flies. This is why we sometimes see Klan groups demonstrating against each other, and why it is so hard to keep track of them.
re: #105 b.d.
Evening Lizards and hope y’all’s Saturday went well.
The only questions tonight is how big HRC’s win will be in SC and how badly the cross Berners will react.
The former will be big enough that the latter will be YUGE!
re: #106 Shiplord Kirel
The problem is that there is no such thing as THE Klan, with a corporate existence that could be held accountable for actions committed under its name. There hasn’t been since 1944, when the 1915 Klan was dissolved for failure to pay its taxes. Instead we have an endless array of small, often temporary groups, that flit in and out of existence like maggots and flies. This is why we sometimes see Klan groups demonstrating against each other, and why it is so hard to keep track of them.
To spin the thread’s title a bit; Unintended Consequence of Hate.
Well, I’ve put lubuntu.net onto the netbook (1 gig ram, 1.6 gig Atom processor) and I have to say that it’s pretty nice. Definately prefers Firefox to Chromium, the interface isn’t flashy with effects, but works very well. Good performance for web surfing and the kind of stuff that I would use it for.
My biggest fear going in is that I’d have to ungrep a tarball (or something like that) to install apps. The package manager in it handles all that, even a total linux newb like me can make it work.
After having gone on the record with several of my friends that “it will be a cold day in hell before you see me running linux”, I’m wondering if crow tastes better braised with a Provencal sauce, or grilled with mesquite.
RBS
re: #107 Targetpractice
The former will be big enough that the latter will be YUGE!
And MSNBC calls SC for HRC
re: #21 goddamnedfrank
#WhereWasBLM When Bruce Wills whipped John Amos ass on the wing of that plane in Die Hard 2
— Agent P (@Mr25Smith) February 27, 2016
Ah, that was funny today
Serious question. How the fuck can anyone actually take Trump seriously when he talks about his big fucking wall? It’s obvious to anyone with a brain that such a thing, as he describes it, is politically and logistically impossible. That alone should make any rational, thinking person realize that he’s just talking out his ass.
The exit polls are in- they’re projecting Hillary 68-32.
re: #108 wrenchwench
To spin the thread’s title a bit; Unintended Consequence of Hate.
And that may be tonight’s internet win.
RBS
re: #112 thedopefishlives
Serious question. How the fuck can anyone actually take Trump seriously when he talks about his big fucking wall? It’s obvious to anyone with a brain that such a thing, as he describes it, is politically and logistically impossible. That alone should make any rational, thinking person realize that he’s just talking out his ass.
We’re talking about his true believers, the hard core derp heads, the ones that are convinced that Obama is a secret Muslim from Kenya. In other words, morons.
RBS
There actually are a few bright spots for the Sandbaggers, according to the poll: they won voters under 30 by 63-37 (but lost those over 45, two thirds of the total by more than 3-1). They won the independent vote 62-37 (18% of voters) and the first-timer vote 70-30 (15% of voters). But that 5-1 margin among the nonwhite voters, who were 2/3 of the total, ouch ouch ouch.
re: #122 Brian J.
There actually are a few bright spots for the Sandbaggers, according to the poll: they won voters under 30 by 63-37 (but lost those over 45, two thirds of the total by more than 3-1). They won the independent vote 62-37 (18% of voters) and the first-timer vote 70-30 (15% of voters). But that 5-1 margin among the nonwhite voters, who were 2/3 of the total, ouch ouch ouch.
The non-white lack of support is going to kill Bernie.
re: #112 thedopefishlives
Serious question. How the fuck can anyone actually take Trump seriously when he talks about his big fucking wall? It’s obvious to anyone with a brain that such a thing, as he describes it, is politically and logistically impossible. That alone should make any rational, thinking person realize that he’s just talking out his ass.
And Jan Brewer knows that better than anyone.
In comeback bid, Shkreli’s old company gets OK to buy life-saving drug
American greed knows no limits.
After firing the infamous Martin Shkreli as its CEO, filing for bankruptcy, and getting delisted from the NASDAQ stock exchange, KaloBios Pharmaceuticals, Inc. may now be poised for a comeback—thanks to a Shkreli-inspired plan to jack-up the price of a life-saving drug and exploit a federal voucher system.
On Friday, KaloBios’ bankruptcy court in Delaware authorized the pharmaceutical company to enter into a binding deal to buy the worldwide rights to one of only two drugs used to treat Chagas disease, a neglected and life-threatening parasitic infection. With the deal, which was planned by Shkreli prior to his departure, the company plans to raise the price of the drug possibly by 600-fold or more. It will also use the drug’s status as one that treats a neglected tropical disease to earn a voucher from the Food and Drug Administration. Such vouchers allow drug companies to move through the drug-approval process faster, and they could be sold to other pharmaceutical companies for hundreds of millions of dollars.
re: #123 HappyWarrior
The non-white lack of support is going to kill Bernie.
Needs moar Cornel West.
//
re: #125 Skip Intro
In comeback bid, Shkreli’s old company gets OK to buy life-saving drug
American greed knows no limits.
On Friday, KaloBios’ bankruptcy court in Delaware authorized the pharmaceutical company to enter into a binding deal to buy the worldwide rights to one of only two drugs used to treat Chagas disease, a neglected and life-threatening parasitic infection
When it comes to parasites, he’s #1!
Here are the striking exit poll numbers on two key Clinton demos in #SCprimary.
Among women: Clinton 74-26%
Among blacks: Clinton 84-16%— Ryan Struyk (@ryanstruyk) February 28, 2016
The former is especially of note, as the narrative Sandbaggers have been pushing for weeks is Hillary is losing the woman vote to Bernie.
Three men shot dead “execution-style” in Fort Wayne home. From the article:
“I wanted to reassure the community that we have no reason to believe that this was focused at these young men because of their religion or their nationality. We don’t believe that’s the case at all,” York said.
No offense, but they were shot to death execution-style. My bet is some Trump-humper found himself some guys he thought to be Muslims or otherwise “undesirable” and took matters into his own hands.
Seems like not many people felt the bern. Well, it was a steep hill for him to climb. No way to cruise around it (car’s on its last breath, okay? sick), no trump up his sleeve, no robots to carry him over…
Amazing stat of the evening… Clinton won the black vote by 68 points. Obama only won black voters in 08 SC primary by 59 points.
— Harry Enten (@ForecasterEnten) February 28, 2016
re: #131 Nyet
Seems like not many people felt the bern. Well, it was a steep hill for him to climb. No way to cruise around it (car’s on its last breath, okay? sick), no trump up his sleeve, no robots to carry him over…
You so clever.
re: #129 Targetpractice
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The former is especially of note, as the narrative Sandbaggers have been pushing for weeks is Hillary is losing the woman vote to Bernie.
As I said, he’s got a very real problem. Hillary’s showing among younger voters is a fair concern too but this is a key Democratic Party demographic that he’s struggling big time with. Now to Clinton’s credit, she’s shown a lot of leadership that didn’t go unnoticed by the African-American community but I think something needs to be said about how poorly with African-Americans Bernie is doing.
re: #131 Nyet
Seems like not many people felt the bern. Well, it was a steep hill for him to climb. No way to cruise around it (car’s on its last breath, okay? sick), no trump up his sleeve, no robots to carry him over…
I thought the best example of Bernie’s problem was the picture I saw of his Flint town hall just the other day, where in a city that’s 53% black, he decided to show up at a white church to a crowd that was almost entirely as lily-white as he is.
re: #132 Tigger2
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Which should put the myth to rest that African-Americans vote for other African-Americans simply because they’re African-American aside. If Obama hadn’t ran last in 2008, I think Clinton would have done quite well with that demographic..
re: #131 Nyet
Seems like not many people felt the bern. Well, it was a steep hill for him to climb. No way to cruise around it (car’s on its last breath, okay? sick), no trump up his sleeve, no robots to carry him over…
It’s alright, there aren’t any other Southern states out there with similarly proportioned primary electorates, except for Alabama. And Virginia. And Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas all voting in 72 hours. And Louisiana a week from today. And Mississippi in ten days. And Florida and North Carolina a week after that.
And it’s not like there are Northern states with lots of minority Democrats voting soon, other than Michigan on March 8th and Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri a week later.
re: #135 Targetpractice
I thought the best example of Bernie’s problem was the picture I saw of his Flint town hall just the other day, where in a city that’s 53% black, he decided to show up at a white church to a crowd that was almost entirely as lily-white as he is.
He also had very few African-American volunteers in a state (SC) whose Democratic electorate is nearly half black if not more so.
re: #109 Reality Based Steve
Well, I’ve put lubuntu.net onto the netbook (1 gig ram, 1.6 gig Atom processor) and I have to say that it’s pretty nice. Definately prefers Firefox to Chromium, the interface isn’t flashy with effects, but works very well. Good performance for web surfing and the kind of stuff that I would use it for.
My biggest fear going in is that I’d have to ungrep a tarball (or something like that) to install apps. The package manager in it handles all that, even a total linux newb like me can make it work.
After having gone on the record with several of my friends that “it will be a cold day in hell before you see me running linux”, I’m wondering if crow tastes better braised with a Provencal sauce, or grilled with mesquite.
RBS
Grilled with mesquite.
re: #137 Brian J.
It’s alright, there aren’t any other Southern states out there with similarly proportioned primary electorates, except for Alabama. And Virginia. And Georgia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas all voting in 72 hours. And Louisiana a week from today. And Mississippi in ten days. And Florida and North Carolina a week after that.
And it’s not like there are Northern states with lots of minority Democrats voting soon, other than Michigan on March 8th and Illinois, Ohio, and Missouri a week later.
The Sandbaggers already have an excuse for any Southern states Bernie loses: “Those states won’t vote for Hillary in November! The only states that matter are blue states where Bernie is winning!”
re: #112 thedopefishlives
Serious question. How the fuck can anyone actually take Trump seriously when he talks about his big fucking wall? It’s obvious to anyone with a brain that such a thing, as he describes it, is politically and logistically impossible. That alone should make any rational, thinking person realize that he’s just talking out his ass.
This was posted by a co-worker friend of mine this morning. I watched the linked video. Transcript: Something something executive orders build a wall argle blurg. OK, it had more words, but honestly it was complete empty bullshit.
Edit: Just for kicks, I went over to the White House website and perused every executive order posted in the last three years. The only ones that stuck out as controversial were the Iran deal, and for some reason I couldn’t find the directives on studying gun violence which Frump calls “an attack on the second amendment” (again, total fucking bullshit). As for the border… Well, our immigration policies and bureaucracies suck, I’ll give anybody that. But it doesn’t boil down to “BULD A WALL HRUP”
My friend is not a stupid person. This was posted by a 60-year-old white Texan with an engineering certification who claims to be basically allergic to managerial BS… Yet he is somehow utterly convinced that Trump is some kind of… I don’t know what. Real leader? Somebody with a plan?
I don’t even know what to say to my friend anymore when he goes on for twenty minutes about this cheese. He seems especially hung up on the U.S. being seen as “wimpy” but he couldn’t point to any specific case where we were threatened.
Trump must be appealing to some psychological knot that I simply don’t have.
I just can’t evenIn the really important clash this evening, Willie Wilson is beating Martin O’Malley for third, 43 to 27.
re: #132 Tigger2
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Hillary has made it impossible for the media to spin this as Bernie “winning” by exceeding expectations. Looks like a complete blow-out. Doesn’t augur well for Bernie Tuesday.
re: #141 Pawn of the Oppressor
I think I called it the other day in another thread, where I said that the first thing the GOP would do if they won the Presidency - they, who railed so loud and long against Obama and his “illegal executive orders” - would be to issue a bunch of illegal executive orders.
“Well, Bernie’s winning the young vote!”
Yeah, about that…
NBC’s exit poll is saying SC voters under 30 make up 13% of today’s vote. https://t.co/vrZ3MB1Sdf
— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) February 27, 2016
re: #143 Big Beautiful Door
Hillary has made it impossible for the media to spin this as Bernie “winning” by exceeding expectations. Looks like a complete blow-out. Doesn’t augur well for Bernie Tuesday.
Democratic race is tilting strongly to Clinton. Her victory in SC was expected, but margin is a problem for Sanders. https://t.co/KPhztwc1EB
— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) February 28, 2016
re: #140 Targetpractice
The Sandbaggers already have an excuse for any Southern states Bernie loses: “Those states won’t vote for Hillary in November! The only states that matter are blue states where Bernie is winning!”
How very inclusive of him.
re: #144 thedopefishlives
I think I called it the other day in another thread, where I said that the first thing the GOP would do if they won the Presidency - they, who railed so loud and long against Obama and his “illegal executive orders” - would be to issue a bunch of illegal executive orders.
Yeah but that would be OKIYAR.
re: #143 Big Beautiful Door
Doesn’t augur well for Bernie Tuesday.
Unless something remarkable happens on that day, that’s almost certainly going to be the end of the campaign for him.
It’s probably too soon to end campaigning before then - but (apart from Vermont) he’s likely to lose massively again……dragging the nomination out when it’s obvious he’s lost really doesn’t help anyone.
re: #148 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
GOP Article of Faith #27: It’s not tyranny when you’re the boot.
re: #141 Pawn of the Oppressor
This was posted by a co-worker friend of mine this morning. I watched the linked video. Transcript: Something something executive orders build a wall argle blurg. OK, it had more words, but honestly it was complete empty bullshit.
Edit: Just for kicks, I went over to the White House website and perused every executive order posted in the last three years. The only ones that stuck out as controversial were the Iran deal, and for some reason I couldn’t find the directives on studying gun violence which Frump calls “an attack on the second amendment” (again, total fucking bullshit). As for the border… Well, our immigration policies and bureaucracies suck, I’ll give anybody that. But it doesn’t boil down to “BULD A WALL HRUP”
My friend is not a stupid person. This was posted by a 60-year-old white Texan with an engineering certification who claims to be basically allergic to managerial BS… Yet he is somehow utterly convinced that Trump is some kind of… I don’t know what. Real leader? Somebody with a plan?
I don’t even know what to say to my friend anymore when he goes on for twenty minutes about this cheese. He seems especially hung up on the U.S. being seen as “wimpy” but he couldn’t point to any specific case where we were threatened.
Trump must be appealing to some psychological knot that I simply don’t have.
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Watched some of Trump’s speech today in Arkansas.
I’m not a psychologist, but I’m pretty sure Trump is insane.
The exit poll may actually be low. Seventeen counties are reporting at least some votes so far, and Bernie’s only at his predicted 32% of the vote in two of them (Aiken and Pickens). On the other hand, there are no votes in from Charleston or Columbia.
re: #148 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
Yeah but that would be OKIYAR.
They’d be perfectly legal, because a white guy would be signing them.
re: #145 Targetpractice
“Well, Bernie’s winning the young vote!”
Yeah, about that…
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— Antonio French (@AntonioFrench) February 28, 2016
And the “young vote” is not monolithic. Seems like when pundits talk about the young vote, it is only part of the young vote they are really talking about.
re: #154 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
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And the “young vote” is not monolithic. Seems like when pundits talk about the young vote, it is only part of the young vote they are really talking about.
That’s been the case throughout this entire primary. It’s frustrating to me and I’m white. I cannot begin to imagine how frustrating it must feel to someone who belongs to one of the groups that is systematically being erased and/or taken for granted.
re: #154 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
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And the “young vote” is not monolithic. Seems like when pundits talk about the young vote, it is only part of the young vote they are really talking about.
Precisely. Saw largely the same thing out in Nevada, where the black youth vote that did show up went almost entirely to Hillary. Sanders’ appeal seems to be almost entirely to the young, white, liberal crowd. Hence why it was a mistake to base the state of the race upon the votes in two lily-white states.
re: #156 klys (maker of Silmarils)
That’s been the case throughout this entire primary. It’s frustrating to me and I’m white. I cannot begin to imagine how frustrating it must feel to someone who belongs to one of the groups that is systematically being erased and/or taken for granted.
You’re a woman, your time will come soon enough. Alas that we have to spend so much time and effort marginalizing people just because of their skin color/gender/sexual orientation.
What kind of goddamned war criminal takes up FOUR parking spots for their Hyundai shitbox?
— goddamnedfrank (@goddamnedfrank) February 28, 2016
I’m not a psychologist, but I’m pretty sure Trump is insane.
I’m wondering about that myself. Just watching him labor to form sentences makes me wonder if he has some sort of problem. The man doesn’t speak above a 3rd grade level and watching him choke trying to describe his plans and coming up with “going after the BAD ones”… SMH, as the kids say.
I was raised with this crazy idea that one of the goals of an American was to educate themselves, and to value education. My own father is notoriously bothered by the fact that one of the consequences of the oil crisis in the 70’s was the price of books going up, making it harder for a person to become well-read.
Now we’re on the fast track to electing a marble-mouthed reality TV thug into executive control of 7K+ active nuclear warheads. I just don’t know where we went wrong.
Some sense at DKos:
On a similar topic, I had a revelation of sorts on my flight home from North Carolina on Friday. We got stuck on the plane for about 45 minutes because, of all things, the airport did not have a driver for the jetway bridge, and when one did arrive, they were unable to get the bridge to move in the correct direction. While we were waiting, the three guys in the row behind me, who had been drinking heavily on the flight, were being quite obnoxious. When I was thinking about relating this story, my first words to describe them were “these three black guys”. Then I thought, wait, why does their color matter? It’s three guys. Three people, even; neither their skin color nor their gender actually relates to the story. (Aside from the male stereotypes and the fact that one of the three ripped a noxious fart, then they all started laughing because they thought it was hilarious, causing the guy across the aisle from me to go into an apoplexy of rage.) It made me realize just how easy it is to unintentionally slip in unnecessary qualifiers that carry implicit racism/sexism.
re: #147 Testy Toad T
How very inclusive of him.
This is unfair of me.
Paraphrasing what a smart man once said, I very much like your Bernie. I do not like your Berniebros. They are so unlike your Bernie.
Anyway, yeah, Bernie lives in a place that is full of white middle class people fearing they may fall to the lower middle class, and so he has a message crafted almost entirely for white middle class people fearing they may fall to the lower middle class, and so he ends up doing very well with white middle class people fearing they may fall to the lower middle class, while pretty much everybody else goes with the consensus candidate.
There is nothing new under the sun. Factional candidates win factions.
HRC vote slipping—below 80% now.
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re: #158 thedopefishlives
You’re a woman, your time will come soon enough. Alas that we have to spend so much time and effort marginalizing people just because of their skin color/gender/sexual orientation.
Most of them don’t think they’re doing it. That’s what’s so frustrating. I can understand the sentiment of those who would prefer to deal with openly racist folks because at least they’re not fooling themselves into thinking they’re helping someone while simultaneously contributing to the system that’s hindering them.
There are a lot of white liberals out there who make me ashamed. The time and place for me, as a white person, to open my mouth on racial issues is when talking to other white people - using my voice to amplify those that might not otherwise be heard and contribute to breaking down the barriers. Not to lecture minorities about what they should be thinking on this issue.
re: #134 HappyWarrior
As I said, he’s got a very real problem. Hillary’s showing among younger voters is a fair concern too but this is a key Democratic Party demographic that he’s struggling big time with. Now to Clinton’s credit, she’s shown a lot of leadership that didn’t go unnoticed by the African-American community but I think something needs to be said about how poorly with African-Americans Bernie is doing.
And the under 30 turnout here in SC was lower than any of the previous states—I think they showed 12% (going from memory.) And that’s who Bernie’s campaign targeted here. Oops. Yeah, they’ll go to rallies but they just don’t vote. (I also can probably name individually each of the over 65 black women who voted for Bernie//)
I missed this.
That time one of my weekly rants went viral 😮
⚡️ “Long-read: Defense attorney reflects on flawed justice system”https://t.co/BlNRI2ClsK— T. Greg Doucette (@greg_doucette) February 25, 2016
re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)
See my story above; I’m coming to the same conclusion, myself. I’m working on consciously modifying my speech/thought patterns to eliminate some of these habits that I picked up as a wingnut child.
re: #165 klys (maker of Silmarils)
And this still probably manages to fuck it up somehow, but. I learn best by listening, and then by trying to teach - and people who need educating on issues of race tend to be the ones who don’t have to live with the consequences of it in their face day in and day out.
re: #164 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse
HRC vote slipping—below 80% now.
//
Good news for John McCain!
re: #168 thedopefishlives
See my story above; I’m coming to the same conclusion, myself. I’m working on consciously modifying my speech/thought patterns to eliminate some of these habits that I picked up as a wingnut child.
Dude, it’s not just being a wingnut child. I grew up in a very liberal home, but in an unbelievably monocultural area, so I DID NOT KNOW anyone who wasn’t white until Junior year of high school, and even then it was just a kid whose parents had moved to the mainland from Puerto Rico long ago.
It’s a natural reaction. Being conscious of it and not responding from it is the key.
Oh, and farts are funny. When you’re stuck on a plane and you have no choice but to let one rip, the only response is laughter.
re: #154 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs
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And the “young vote” is not monolithic. Seems like when pundits talk about the young vote, it is only part of the young vote they are really talking about.
That’s correct as well and it’s something that the media has largely ignored.
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