White House Steps on Another Rake, Emails Deceptive Ukraine Talking Points to House Democrats

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In today’s episode of “Stepping on Rakes,” the Trump White House released a “transcript” of his call to Ukrainian President Zelensky, then promptly emailed a list of deceptive talking points to all their cronies — and by mistake, to the House Democrats.

And among other grotesqueries, they misspelled Zelensky’s name throughout the document.

Even better, they followed up this boneheaded maneuver by emailing again and telling the Democrats they wanted to “recall the message.”

You can already see GOP politicians and right wing media clowns parroting these talking points. They’re good at following orders, if nothing else.

Oh, and that “transcript?” It’s pretty fishy, of course.

UPDATE at 9/25/19 11:14:53 am by Charles Johnson

Since Trump and his flunkies are already trying to claim this exonerates him completely, here’s a very important point to keep in mind:

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:34:09am
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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:34:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:34:55am
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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:38:40am

Already. This is Day #1 and Trump got to go first.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:38:41am

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

NO COLLUSION UR COLUSHION!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:39:11am
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:39:13am

I will buy Chuck Todd dinner if he will say to the next Republican he has on “So, you’ve made these two points. Let’s talk about the next talking point.”

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:39:26am

re: #4 b.d.

Already. This is Day #1 and Trump got to go first.

Also, too, not a transcript.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:40:01am
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:40:37am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Also, too, not a transcript.

I think it’s just the name of the document at this point, in the same way that Republican doesn’t mean republican.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:42:13am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:44:22am
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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:44:45am

My Rep is not yet on board…. pushing this waffling statement.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:46:13am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’ve come to hagfishes. They remind me of the @GOP. They have no backbone. They’re scavengers or predators. And when threatened, they exude lots of slime.

They make a living by tunneling through corpses.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:48:03am

i didnt read all the talking points. just these two:

nothing was ‘leaked’. a complaint was filed according to procedure

you investigate to see of a claim has merit. whether a conversation is heard first hand or not, filing a complaint doesnt undermine the office of the president

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:48:04am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:48:26am

re: #13 lawhawk

“We must let the facts guide our work.”

That was the faux-reasonable line Kennedy (R-LA) was pushing this morning as he babbled about getting more information out about just what the Bidens were up to.

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Chrysicat  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:50:13am

re: #273 Backwoods_Sleuth

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:51:01am

re: #4 b.d.

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Already. This is Day #1 and Trump got to go first.

he was definitely zugzwanged
we just didnt know how much he was gonna help

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:51:23am
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:53:02am

re: #8 Sir John Barron

Also, too, not a transcript.

“wait for it” (radar o’reilly)

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:53:20am

This shit is so crazy. How can any of this be real?

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Chrysicat  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:54:23am

re: #20 jaunte

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:54:29am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:54:32am

The Real Scandal™ Is This Is Sofa King Dumb

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:55:26am

re: #13 lawhawk

My Rep is not yet on board…. pushing this waffling statement.

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well he does believe his ‘utmost’ responsibility is to have two responsibilities, so…

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:55:31am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 10:59:36am
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mmmirele  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:00:05am

My congressman, the head of the FREEDUMB Caucus, has been going berserk. He put out three FB posts yesterday regarding impeachment. Here’s the first one today. He’s getting a lot of pushback from people who are identified as being in the district. The rest of them, I see them as trolls and I tell them “I smell borscht!”

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:00:20am

re: #27 jaunte

hey mitt:

if you endorse an impeachment inquiry that’s the process that will play out

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:01:11am

I’ve thought for some time their incompetence will be our only saving grace. Today, it’s clear their incompetence is the only thing that challenges their level of criminality. Barr is now implicated too, which may help in getting the DOJ back on the rails.

This shitshow is getting to the juicy parts.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:01:31am

re: #27 jaunte

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So Romney wants to “let [the] process play out”?? JFC, if he waffled any more, he’d have maple syrup on him: I guess this is Mittspeak for “see what the polls say and vote accordingly when it’s safe“….

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:02:23am

re: #28 Backwoods_Sleuth

a good number of your senate colleagues have already said they’d vote to acquit. the trial hasnt even started and they havent heard any evidence.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:03:48am

re: #29 mmmirele

hey congressman biggs:

when i dont speed it fulfills my promise not to break the law

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:04:20am

re: #30 DangerMan

hey mitt:

if you endorse an impeachment inquiry that’s the process that will play out

Mitt only supports the process before the process that processes whether there should be a process to process.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:06:59am

Mitt has Sasse/Collins By Proxy Syndrome: posturing care and concern when they know they’ll likely hold the party line.

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Sir John Barron  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:07:44am

re: #29 mmmirele

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My congressman, the head of the FREEDUMB Caucus, has been going berserk. He put out three FB posts yesterday regarding impeachment. Here’s the first one today. He’s getting a lot of pushback from people who are identified as being in the district. The rest of them, I see them as trolls and I tell them “I smell borscht!”

Was ‘Democrats frenzy’ in the WH talking points?

//

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:09:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:09:42am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:10:06am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:11:09am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

This shit is so crazy. How can any of this be real?

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality…

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:13:12am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

So, we have a whole lot of people that remember Trump committing an impeachable offense.

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:16:26am

Climate Change is a liberal hoax.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:16:30am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:17:00am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:17:25am

re: #44 Backwoods_Sleuth

Complete and total shitshow.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:20:14am

I said before that I believe Putin underestimated how mind blowingly stupid Trump actually is. I’m hoping I’m right about that and Tangerine Mans continual shooting of his own feet will be his downfall.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:20:57am
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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:21:30am

Watching the Banana Republicans fumble almost as bad a President Cartman himself, reminds me of Lindsay’s words:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:22:20am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

This shit is so crazy. How can any of this be real?

It is exactly as if Danny McBride wrote an HBO series about a corrupt president and his family.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:23:00am
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:23:13am

‘You Have Come into My Wheelhouse’

(in its entirety from politicalwire.com)

“Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Trump were discussing gun violence over the telephone Tuesday morning when the president abruptly changed the topic to an intelligence community whistle-blower complaint that had Democrats talking about impeachment,” the New York Times reports.

“Ms. Pelosi stopped him short.”

Said Pelosi: “Mr. President, you have come into my wheelhouse.”

“The remark was a reference to Ms. Pelosi’s quarter-century of experience with intelligence matters in Congress, an aspect of her biography that played a central role in her decision on Tuesday to open a formal impeachment inquiry into Mr. Trump.”

she played him
has been at least since the pelosi clap at the sotu

and yes, she scared a bunch of us. made us reconsider and wonder.

phillyfaker: “This is why I find Dems frustration with her ridiculous. There is no doubt in my mind that Nancy Pelosi is better at politics than me, or anyone else here.”

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:23:56am

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

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trump zugzwanged in a totally icarian way

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:24:19am

re: #42 Belafon

So, we have a whole lot of people that remember Trump committing an impeachable offense.

potential witnesses

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:29:13am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:29:36am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:29:55am

GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:30:32am

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

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Semper Fi  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:32:20am

re: #58 BigPapa

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

That would make great reading..

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:33:35am
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:33:56am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:36:31am

“Very Cool. Very legal.”

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:37:02am

re: #58 BigPapa

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

And he takes AF-1, turns it over to Russia as a gesture of good will, and Graham talks about how, as president, he has the right to do that.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:37:20am
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:37:49am

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:42:33am

re: #65 DangerMan

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sorry, that pic goes with this:

DOJ Axed Probe Of Trump Asking Ukraine President For ‘Favor’ On Joe Biden

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:43:58am

re: #63 Belafon

And he takes AF-1, turns it over to Russia as a gesture of good will, and Graham talks about how, as president, he has the right to do that.

“Former President Trump ordered the pilot to head to Russian airspace. He then secured four parachutes from the rear of the aircraft. He used three to secure large duffel bags of US currency and one for himself. Sometime in the next 30 minutes He tossed the three bags out the back door and then jumped himself. Neither former President Trump nor the duffel bags of cash have been located since.”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:44:53am

re: #63 Belafon

And he takes AF-1, turns it over to Russia as a gesture of good will, and Graham talks about how, as president, he has the right to do that.

I have no doubt Danny McBride will write a bang up series finale. I’m looking forward to the HBO version with McBride playing Trump.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:46:05am

re: #58 BigPapa

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

That’s about $1.50. I hope you can afford to lose!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:49:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:50:58am
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:52:07am

re: #71 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shut the Fuck up Donny! - Donny’s Best Moments

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:54:47am

re: #70 Charles Johnson

It’s not a transcript, but it’s close enough for government work.

To be serious for a moment though, calling it a transcript isn’t necessarily a bad thing for the anti-Trump side. You say “transcript” and people think “this is what they said.” That puts the pro-Trump side in the position of arguing “no, this thing we released wasn’t a transcript and isn’t actually accurate.” Which, given the circumstances, isn’t a great place to be.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:54:50am
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Skip Intro  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:55:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:55:27am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:55:54am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:56:07am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

This shit is so crazy. How can any of this be real?

This is what our New Media Reality has been building up to for years now…

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:58:40am

re: #75 Skip Intro

Imagine if, in the 1950s, we had proportional representation and blacks gained enough seats that the GOP could have had a majority had they formed a coallition, and wouldn’t do it.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2019 • 11:58:49am

Just heard an interview with Toolsi on Here and Now, where after a good start they started to question her on her upbringing. She began interrupting the host Robin Young and then demanded to explain her own faith, and Young said, please do. So Toolsi made a brief statement about her monotheistic Hindu faith and hung up. Hoo.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:00:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:01:38pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:02:03pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:03:21pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:03:23pm

Keep talking Donny, you’re just making it easier for us to nail you.

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:03:32pm

Freetoken

omg

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:04:42pm
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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:04:53pm

Day two….

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:05:41pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:06:39pm

re: #89 Dread Pirate

“Suddenly, liberals don’t want to ban miliary style weapons.”

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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:07:12pm

Per Cornyn, whistleblower complaint to be delivered to senate this afternoon….

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:07:14pm

In slightly unrelated news, Warren has taken the lead in California. 29-20-19, Warren, Biden, Sanders.

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:07:29pm

I HEREBY ORDER THAT NANCY IS NO LONGER SOTH, I WILL BE APPOINTING AN ACTING SOTH SOON, IMPEACHMENT IS OFF

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:09:48pm
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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:10:47pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Per Cornyn, whistleblower complaint to be delivered to senate this afternoon….

I’ll believe it when I see it.

10 bucks says it’ll be partial, with plenty of ‘classified’ stuff taken out.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:11:37pm

re: #93 b.d.

I HEREBY ORDER THAT NANCY IS NO LONGER SOTH, I WILL BE APPOINTING AN ACTING SOTH SOON, IMPEACHMENT IS OFF

Somebody must have “informed” Trump of that (statement? resolution? tweet?) by Kevin McCarthy and couple of his Freedom Caucus monkeys that Nancy Pelosi should be arrested for feloniously insulting the President, or whatever, and he took it as a given action….

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:12:57pm

just a general thought i posted back on 7/24/19

Do y’all recall the end of Force 10 From Navarone?

harrison ford and robert shaw set explosives deep down inside the dam
it blows up and “nothing happens”
(they run like hell and get out)

Miller (“you horrible little man”) sits on the hillside calmly smoking his pipe and says to carl weathers “You can’t expect an enormous volcano with three tiny bags of explosives. You have to let nature take her course”

patience, priscilla. let it drip, drip, drip

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:13:24pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:14:47pm

re: #98 jaunte

Everyone may want to invest in rain ponchos, the feces is preparing to meet the ventilation.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:15:50pm

re: #97 DangerMan

just a general thought i posted back on 7/24/20

patience, priscilla. let it drip, drip, drip

7/24/20? Getting ahead of yourself, there?

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Skip Intro  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:15:53pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

We knew that was coming.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:16:14pm

re: #97 DangerMan

just a general thought i posted back on 7/24/20

patience, priscilla. let it drip, drip, drip

You posted a thought in the future?

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:17:04pm
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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:17:50pm

re: #102 Belafon

You posted a thought in the future?

He’s very clever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:18:32pm
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Boyo  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:20:19pm

YouTube

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:20:35pm

Zalinsky Auto Parts King

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:20:53pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

I can imagine her cutting through his rambling with “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:21:27pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

she didn’t even know what he was talking about

In fairness, given his recent ramblings, nobody really knows what he’s talking about anymore.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:21:51pm

@AliVelshi just said that we are at 217 Congresspeople who are in for impeachment.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:22:11pm

re: #97 DangerMan

just a general thought i posted back on 7/24/20

patience, priscilla. let it drip, drip, drip

re: #102 Belafon

You posted a thought in the future?

re: #104 calochortus

He’s very clever.

Heard shortly before DangerMan posted the comment in question:

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:22:39pm

re: #110 jaunte

@AliVelshi just said that we are at 217 Congresspeople who are in for impeachment.

let’s see, carry the one… that means we need one more for a majority?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:23:16pm

re: #38 Charles Johnson

So they “yadda yadda’d” extortion.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:23:30pm

re: #112 KGxvi

I wonder if it will happen before 4 or slightly after.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:25:01pm

re: #114 jaunte

I wonder if it will happen before 4 or slightly after.

The dam breaks?

Relatedly, I’m ok with it being a secret vote:

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:25:49pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

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So Trump tried to dangle him agreeing to do away with the background check loophole for Nancy dropping the impeachment stuff? That is what that sounds like.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:26:07pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

“You know, Nancy, guns. Those things you use to make phone calls with. They have that little screen, which shows me all the time, and did you know you can now order McDonald’s and have it delivered?”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:28:37pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:30:31pm
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:30:45pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:30:47pm

re: #100 Jay C

7/24/20? Getting ahead of yourself, there?

fixed
thx

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:31:17pm

re: #102 Belafon

You posted a thought in the future?

i may have. and then…maybe not
will we have to wait and see?

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:31:33pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:32:20pm

re: #108 jaunte

I can imagine her cutting through his rambling with “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

that’s when she made the ‘wheelhouse’ comment

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:32:46pm

re: #58 BigPapa

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

We should be so lucky. That’s a pipe dream.

But I do like your enthusiasm. 😁

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:33:01pm

re: #120 jaunte

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Trump won’t serve more than two terms, I’m sure the judge will let them run concurrently.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:33:35pm

re: #126 b.d.

Prisondent for Life

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:35:49pm

re: #115 KGxvi

we all know this but, see, here’s the problem.

12 angry men, adapted:

If you want to vote not guilty, then do it because you are convinced the man is not guilty, not because “it would affect your career and reelection chances”

And if you think he is guilty, then vote that way.

Or don’t you have the guts to do what you think is right?

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:37:52pm

re: #123 jaunte

another take:

30 senators admit they are not capable of doing their jobs

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:38:44pm

re: #128 DangerMan

If you want to vote not guilty, then do it because you are convinced the man is not guilty, not because “it would affect your career and reelection chances”

only way this will change is if they decide that continuing to support Trump will hurt their re-election chances

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:39:16pm

re: #128 DangerMan

Here’s the bone, Guys. If you want to regain the control of your party, you’re going to have to convince those that you can that Trump needs to go. If you can’t do that, then it’s no longer your party, and eventually you will be a casualty.

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:40:06pm
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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:41:43pm

re: #117 Belafon

“You know, Nancy, guns. Those things you use to make phone calls with. They have that little screen, which shows me all the time, and did you know you can now order McDonald’s and have it delivered?”

You’re kinda scary sometimes.

You’re officially the Trump whisperer now.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:42:49pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:45:01pm

re: #128 DangerMan

Or go to the ballgame.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:49:44pm

re: #86 Stanley Sea

Freetoken

omg

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Be fair; Issa’s felonies were years and years ago, he served his sentence. Aren’t we the team that wants criminals to get all their rights back after they’ve paid their debt to society?

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:50:07pm

My favorite:

Trump 2020!

I don’t think he’ll get that long of a sentence but love the enthusiasm! 👍👍

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:50:48pm

re: #133 MsJ

You’re kinda scary sometimes.

You’re officially the Trump whisperer now.

Trump’s brain is a random walk algorithm. Come up with a topic, make a statement, and then trail off from your statement in some random direction that benefits Trump. Don’t just make random leaps, they must tie together in some way that’s associated with Trump.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:51:15pm

re: #134 jaunte

winner

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:51:29pm

re: #136 sagehen

Be fair; Issa’s felonies were years and years ago, he served his sentence. Aren’t we the team that wants criminals to get all their rights back after they’ve paid their debt to society?

Not to serve in public office. That should be permanently disqualifying, IMHO.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:51:30pm

re: #135 Ace Rothstein

Or go to the ballgame.

;-)

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:52:43pm

re: #136 sagehen

Be fair; Issa’s felonies were years and years ago, he served his sentence. Aren’t we the team that wants criminals to get all their rights back after they’ve paid their debt to society?

Yeah, but we were all implying not Issa.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:53:58pm

re: #136 sagehen

Be fair; Issa’s felonies were years and years ago, he served his sentence. Aren’t we the team that wants criminals to get all their rights back after they’ve paid their debt to society?

Yes, that’s true, Issa did formally repay his debt to society for the crimes he was convicted of decades ago. However, he certainly has not shown a positive change in character in the intervening years, which is why he still gets dragged as being a crook.

A Catch-22, to be sure.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Sep 25, 2019 • 12:56:23pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

This shit is so crazy. How can any of this be real?

That’s the thing, Chief. Fiction has to be logical. Reality has no such restrictions.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:02:05pm

4:01 PM ET…

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:02:22pm

Highly unlikely. But WhatEvs.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:03:49pm

it’s never been about whether we like him or not.

This is and always has been about the rule of law, the freedom of our election system from foreign meddling, and holding the president accountable.

Pelosi summed it up correctly:

“It is not part of his job to use taxpayer money to shake down other countries for the benefit of his campaign. Either the President does not know the weight of his words or he does not care about ethics or his constitutional responsibilities.”

i would add let alone that he thinks himself above the law

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:04:11pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:04:56pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:05:50pm

re: #148 Dread Pirate

and another angel gets its wings

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:05:59pm

re: #149 Charles Johnson

That does not surprise me at all.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:07:01pm

re: #147 DangerMan

Pelosi summed it up correctly:

“It is not part of his job to use taxpayer money to shake down other countries for the benefit of his campaign. Either the President does not know the weight of his words or he does not care about ethics or his constitutional responsibilities.”

Why not both??

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:09:15pm

re: #146 MsJ

Highly unlikely. But WhatEvs.

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Man, the bots are out in full force in the replies to that NYT piece.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:11:34pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:12:49pm

re: #154 lawhawk

maybe we see a quid amateur quo

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:16:21pm

corey booker is not wrong:

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) told MSNBC that Republican enablers of President Trump “will go down in history as despicable actors” who are “doing some of the worst things” in the history of the country.

Said Booker: “The truth about Donald Trump will come out. I have a very low regard for people who know he’s doing wrong but defend him and empower him to remain in that office.”

though i might have gone for ‘deplorable’ instead of ‘despicable’

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:17:01pm

nixon is pissed he’s now gonna be remembered as a piker

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:17:19pm

Holy moly! The Russian troll-masters have canceled all leave, called in reserves, and, for all I know, started drafting people off the street.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:20:30pm

Off topic: Greg Palast cops a plea.

Confession: I fixed my kids’ Admission into Top Colleges

… At my twins’ graduations this year were the uninvited ghosts of those who could have, should have, been admitted to their schools, but were crowded out by the privileged winners of the game.

This system sucks

This system sucks. It starts with our mad method of funding schools with local property taxes, an effective weapon of class war used by the rich to protect their progeny from the onslaught of the un-moneyed masses. Consider Compton City, which is just a 33-minute car-ride away from Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills’ public schools spend $15,886 per student, Compton just $10,237 (and Compton’s property tax rate is far higher than Beverly Hills’). …

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:21:07pm

re: #153 MsJ

Man, the bots are out in full force in the replies to that NYT piece.

Yep. I especially noted the one that (still!) repeated the old wheeze about how the Obama Admin’s “illegal coup” enabled “Ukrainian neo-Nazis” ….

At least they’ve gotten sophisticated enough not to list their nyms as “Oleg72387502” or “Svetlana9547039”….

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:22:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:22:38pm

moron

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cat-tikvah  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:23:52pm

re: #157 DangerMan

The first post-2016 election protest poster I made, when the GOP came to Philly in January 2017.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:24:51pm

re: #161 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:24:57pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Your demand is denied.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:25:39pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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You don’t get to demand shit. And you know what, maybe Hunter Biden shouldn’t be in Ukraine but your nepotistic Orange ass is the last one who should be throwing stones.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:26:01pm

re: #159 retired cynic

Beverley Hills High also sits on oil field that helps make that district incredibly wealthy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:26:07pm
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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:26:56pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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Demanding Donny

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:29:03pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:31:02pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

moron

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:31:36pm

its hard to keep track of all the moving parts

there’s a second whistleblower case. about trumps taxes.
it’s quieter because richard neal is handling it differently

The tax whistleblower, meanwhile, went straight to Congress ― specifically to the House Ways and Means Committee, which had sued the Trump administration for refusing to provide copies of the president’s tax returns in response to a formal request. Democrats say they need Trump’s returns to make sure the IRS properly enforces tax laws against the president.

But Ways and Means Chair Richard Neal (D-Mass.) is far less outspoken than Schiff, and his approach to the tax case has been cautious. He decided to stay focused on the lawsuit, using the whistleblower’s material to bolster that case.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:31:40pm
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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:31:58pm

My fishing buddy Pete. Hell of a mandolin player as well. (Band: Mother Neff).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:32:29pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:32:59pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JFC what an asshole.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:33:09pm

oh joy…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:33:41pm
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Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:33:46pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh joy…

He’s very low energy. Just read his tweets.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:33:50pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s the right thing to do. Stop acting like you care about unity when your father served Trump.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:34:03pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:35:01pm

I have to watch Daniel Dale

I can’t do it’s voice.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:35:10pm

re: #177 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh joy…

So he’s going to be whining. Hooray.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:35:33pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:35:57pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:35:59pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

first hand or fourth it doesnt matter. what matters are:
- is the complaint credible (apparently they decided it is)
- if so, are the allegations true
none of the rest of this nonsense matters a whit

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:37:07pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:37:32pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:38:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:38:24pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

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nicdanger  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:38:40pm

Yay Nicolle…Just stopped the live feed…have video,no sound.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:40:01pm

re: #186 DangerMan

first hand or fourth it doesnt matter. what matters are:
- is the complaint credible (apparently they decided it is)
- if so, are the allegations true
none of the rest of this nonsense matters a whit

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The whistleblowers are 1st hand witnesses (they’d have to have been in order to kick off the process with the IG DNI. The IG found it credible. Trump and Barr tried to spike it so that it wouldn’t get transmitted to Congress as required by statute.

That right there is evidence Trump knows the allegations are not only credible, but speak to multiple criminal acts. The coverup is additional criminal acts.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:40:02pm

sorry, that’s not how it works

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:41:55pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

Playing poker with a two, a three and a lint-covered cracker.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:42:12pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Then resign and let someone who actually is willing to get off their ass to do it. Hillary Clinton never bitched about the job. You’re just a racist and sexist shitbrain who saw a black president and a woman candidate and you thought you could do it better simply because you’re a white guyS

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:42:20pm

re: #191 nicdanger

Yay Nicolle…Jus tstopped the live feed…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:42:58pm
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Mescalero09  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:43:29pm

Now imagine the nut sacks huddled around their TV agreeing with every slobbering word he drools out.

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:43:35pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

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sorry, that’s not how it works

I thought that was supposed to be turned over at 4:00?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:44:02pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:45:06pm

re: #199 b.d.

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I thought that was supposed to be turned over at 4:00?

A report was turned over to the two Intelligence Committees.
I don’t know if it was a full report or redacted.

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Skip Intro  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:45:34pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

He, of course, didn’t write that because it doesn’t come close to matching his “style”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:46:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:47:23pm

re: #202 Skip Intro

He, of course, didn’t write that because it doesn’t come close to matching his “style”.

Yeah usually if a tweet is somewhat coherent or feel like it was yelled, chances are good he didn’t write it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:50:07pm

tossing Pence under the bus…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:51:34pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:51:57pm

re: #193 Backwoods_Sleuth

im ok with this:

Biden: Mr. Trump, your bogus conspiracy theory is bogus.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:53:18pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:53:24pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump demands an investigation of Biden and his son, but says he’s not trying to pressure anyone or anything like that.

if that’s what you want, talk to Barr.
im sure you have his number

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:54:12pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:55:22pm

re: #205 Backwoods_Sleuth

the democrats: we’re gonna need a bigger committee

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:55:57pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:56:49pm

Ah, how right they were. I’ve never seen a president so ready to douse himself and light a match on live TV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:56:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:57:15pm
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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:57:46pm

re: #213 Targetpractice

He’s done more crimes, more impeachable acts than every other president combined (those impeached or not). So, there’s a lot to work with.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:58:55pm

How much of that $5 Million that Trump raised came from murky Russian sources?

//

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:58:58pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:59:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 1:59:52pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

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He could have won with Reagan’s numbers and he would still deserve to be impeached. His victory wasn’t all that special really especially that he needed help from Vlad.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:00:19pm

Trump: My UN meetings were pretty staggering.

People at the UN: Who?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:01:02pm

Nixon won 1972 in a landslide. Even Nixon wasn’t craven enough to claim that didn’t merit impeachment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:01:20pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:01:35pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Nixon won 1972 in a landslide. Even Nixon wasn’t craven enough to claim that didn’t merit impeachment.

But remember: Nixon did have Fox News…or Twitter.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:02:02pm

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Nixon won 1972 in a landslide. Even Nixon wasn’t craven enough to claim that didn’t merit impeachment.

re: #157 DangerMan

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nixon is pissed he’s now gonna be remembered as a piker

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:02:36pm

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump: My UN meetings were pretty staggering.

People at the UN: Who? NEW PHONE WHO DIS?

FTFY…

/

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:03:09pm

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

But remember: Nixon did have Fox News…or Twitter.

he did have rosemary woods.
imagine if those 18 minutes werent erased

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:04:00pm

re: #224 Eclectic Cyborg

But remember: Nixon did have Fox News…or Twitter.

True. Nixon with Fox News. Man that’s a scary thought.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:04:38pm

I do admire British insults

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gwangung  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:05:27pm

re: #219 Barefoot Grin

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And remember….he’s STILL gonna getthe unquestioning support of 45% of the country.

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A Mom Anon  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:05:28pm

re: #216 lawhawk

Has he EVER had a consequence for anything he’s ever done wrong? I’m guessing not ever, even as a 5 yr old kid. He has to go to jail and lose everything or this is kicking the door open to complete lawlessness. It’s not just him either, Pence, McConnell, Miller, Conway, all of them. His kids, except Barron and Tiffany, Melania too.They’re all up to their eyeballs in this mess and it doesn’t stop there. We can’t let this shit go or it will come back again.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:05:40pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:06:26pm

*snerk*

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:07:12pm

re: #230 gwangung

And remember….he’s STILL gonna getthe unquestioning support of 45% of the country.

I know. There’s really no downside for him for standing up there and lying. Dale frequently has to note things like “this is the 25th time he’s given the incorrect electoral ballot count for Clinton” because it doesn’t matter when the goal is gas lighting.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:07:17pm

re: #213 Targetpractice

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Ah, how right they were. I’ve never seen a president so ready to douse himself and light a match on live TV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:07:35pm

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:08:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:09:01pm

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Can’t find this tweet right now: twitter.com ]

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:09:58pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reuters: “Ukraine president thought only U.S. side of Trump call would be published”reuters.com

— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) September 25, 2019

WOMP WOMP

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:10:00pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:10:16pm

re: #231 A Mom Anon

Has he EVER had a consequence for anything he’s ever done wrong? I’m guessing not ever, even as a 5 yr old kid. He has to go to jail and lose everything or this is kicking the door open to complete lawlessness. It’s not just him either, Pence, McConnell, Miller, Conway, all of them. His kids, except Barron and Tiffany, Melania too.They’re all up to their eyeballs in this mess and it doesn’t stop there. We can’t let this shit go or it will come back again.

We’re talking about a man who waxed poetic about beating up a teacher. I don’t believe the story fwiw but it speaks to who he is. In a different time, Trump is Charles I, thinking he was a divine being as king. The radical part of me wants Trump at some point to have to face the music the same way Charles did.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:11:13pm

re: #237 makeitstop

Trump, Pompeo and Mnuchin all seem like they’ve seen the angel of death waiting around the corner.

— Wajahat Ali (@WajahatAli) September 25, 2019

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:12:33pm

Fuck them all.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:14:00pm

re: #239 TedStriker

WOMP WOMP

YouTube

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:14:07pm

re: #243 DodgerFan1988

Not only does Trump’s inner circle appear to be scrambling in their own defense, they are pinning the blame for their actions on each other. But if nothing sordid occurred here and it’s all a ginned-up controversy, why would any of this be necessary? commentarymagazine.com

— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) September 25, 2019

Fuck them all.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:14:37pm

Michael Tracey was pushing this line earlier: it’s really about finding out the origins of the “witch hunt” AND how Manafort was wrongly framed—the premise is that the Mueller investigation was completely fraudulent because it was based on DEM-generated false accusations and therefore is perfectly reasonable to investigate.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:14:37pm

re: #237 makeitstop

Trump, Pompeo and Mnuchin all seem like they’ve seen the angel of death waiting around the corner.

Impeachment, indictment, federal prison, and no book deal… the four horsemen of the Trumpocalypse

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:14:42pm

re: #243 DodgerFan1988

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Fuck them all.

Scandals are all about messaging, and so far these morons can’t find a message, must less adopt it at the same time. Even today, they released not a single coherent message for the GOP to puppet but a list of them.

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steve_davis  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:15:29pm

re: #58 BigPapa

In How It All Ends Bingo, I got 100 rubles on:

Trump flies to Russia in one of his own planes for a ‘summit’ with Putin. Resigns once he’s on Russian soil, claims the witchhunt forced him out and (garble).

and immediately has his secret service sedate him and throw him into adult underwear for the rendition home.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:15:48pm

re: #231 A Mom Anon

One good thing about the Trump Crime Family is that it is full of swamp creatures who will turn on each other to avoid being sent to jail. Trump will be blowing vast amounts of cash on Mob Lawyers trying every skeevy trick in the book …and still be sent to prison.

Don jr. is the one most likely to cave to prosecutors and turn on the old man for a plea deal if it means saving his own inept skin. Ivanka is the one who will go down with the ship with public support in the hopes of some sort of wealth transfer when the old man is finally gone. All of them acting completely in their own interests and ready to eat each other when the inevitable comes.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:17:06pm

re: #246 Barefoot Grin

Michael Tracey was pushing this line earlier: it’s really about finding out the origins of the “witch hunt” AND how Manafort was wrongly framed—the premise is that the Mueller investigation was completely fraudulent because it was based on DEM-generated false accusations and therefore is perfectly reasonable to investigate.

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I totally believe it’s about been about Manafort since the beginning, that that has been the motivation behind every effort to dig through Ukrainian dumpsters in the hopes of finding something to attack Obama with.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:17:36pm

re: #250 Florida Panhandler

One good thing about the Trump Crime Family is that it is full of swamp creatures who will turn on each other to avoid being sent to jail. Trump will be blowing vast amounts of cash on Mob Lawyers trying every skeevy trick in the book …and still be sent to prison.

Don jr. is the one most likely to cave to prosecutors and turn on the old man for a plea deal if it means saving his own inept skin. Ivanka is the one who will go down with the ship with public support in the hopes of some sort of wealth transfer when the old man is finally gone. All of them acting completely in their own interests and ready to eat each other when the inevitable comes.

Like some even more fucked-up version of Lord of the Flies.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:20:23pm

re: #246 Barefoot Grin

Michael Tracey was pushing this line earlier: it’s really about finding out the origins of the “witch hunt” AND how Manafort was wrongly framed—the premise is that the Mueller investigation was completely fraudulent because it was based on DEM-generated false accusations and therefore is perfectly reasonable to investigate.

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Tracey is a pos hack.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:21:10pm

re: #250 Florida Panhandler

One good thing about the Trump Crime Family is that it is full of swamp creatures who will turn on each other to avoid being sent to jail.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:21:16pm

re: #253 HappyWarrior

Tracey is a pos hack.

Hasn’t been the same since Maxine Waters curbstomped him.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:21:47pm

re: #251 Targetpractice

I totally believe it’s about been about Manafort since the beginning, that that has been the motivation behind every effort to dig through Ukrainian dumpsters in the hopes of finding something to attack Obama with.

That was some of the original meddling that the Trump administration engaged in and needs to be investigated.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:22:46pm

Faux: “Biden! Biden!! BIDEN!!! Did we mention Joe Biden?!”

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:25:19pm

re: #255 Targetpractice

Hasn’t been the same since Maxine Waters curbstomped him.

I heard Waters ripped Tracey’s dick and balls off when she curbstomped him and keeps them in a jar.

It’d be irresponsible not to speculate about such things…

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:25:46pm

Playbook/politico: “Rudy Giuliani is going to be called on to testify on Capitol Hill. It’s a near certainty.”

“The release of the notes from this call has absolutely solidified the House Democratic leadership’s impeachment position. A few Democratic leadership aides said a narrowly tailored impeachment resolution just on the transcript would pass at this point.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:26:48pm
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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:27:48pm

CNBC weigh in.

-The stock market is shrugging off risks from the possible impeachment of President Donald Trump because it seems highly likely the Senate would acquit him if the House were to impeach him.

-There are possible moments of volatility for markets even though analysts do not believe the overall rally is at risk.

-J.P. Morgan analysts said there are some major wild cards for the markets that could be impacted by the impeachment process — the U.S.-China trade war; Iran relations and implications for the 2020 presidential and senate elections

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:27:58pm

Rest of media: “The contents of this transcript are damning.”

Faux: “NANCY LOOKS SO DUMB FOR NOT WAITING FOR THE TRANSCRIPT!!!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:30:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:30:08pm

re: #262 Targetpractice

Rest of media: “The contents of this transcript are damning.”

Faux: “NANCY LOOKS SO DUMB FOR NOT WAITING FOR THE TRANSCRIPT!!!”

Faux later: Remember when Obama admitted eating dog.//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:31:10pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:31:33pm

Faux is in full on regurgitation mode, screaming the same BS over and over again about Biden and the Ukrainian prosecutor, claiming it’s “the same as Hillary,” and overall just investing entirely in the idea that the way to beat this impeachment is whataboutism.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:32:08pm

re: #261 MsJ

CNBC weigh in.

-The stock market is shrugging off risks from the possible impeachment of President Donald Trump because it seems highly likely the Senate would acquit him if the House were to impeach him.

- yeah this is nonsense
- assumes all kinds of things no one knows about yet
- its way too early to have any idea whats going to happen and/or when

and there’s a host of worse things that ‘could’ happen unrelated to whether the senate gets a chance to hold a mock trial and acquit

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:32:51pm

re: #263 Backwoods_Sleuth

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All in all, Trumpism is all about what is good for Donald Trump. It’s not an ideology. It’s a self centered prick using the power of the American presidency to further his own interests only. And that’s what separates Trump from Nixon, Reagan, & Bush. Yes we can agree their doctrines were bad but they were not for that president’s personal interests.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:33:38pm

re: #266 Targetpractice

Faux is in full on regurgitation mode, screaming the same BS over and over again about Biden and the Ukrainian prosecutor, claiming it’s “the same as Hillary,” and overall just investing entirely in the idea that the way to beat this impeachment is whataboutism.

wont work this time

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:34:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:35:25pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:35:27pm

re: #270 Targetpractice

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Because they are.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:35:38pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

All in all, Trumpism is all about what is good for Donald Trump. It’s not an ideology. It’s a self centered prick using the power of the American presidency to further his own interests only. And that’s what separates Trump from Nixon, Reagan, & Bush. Yes we can agree their doctrines were bad but they were not for that president’s personal interests.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:36:05pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

All in all, Trumpism is all about what is good for Donald Trump. It’s not an ideology. It’s a self centered prick using the power of the American presidency to further his own interests only. And that’s what separates Trump from Nixon, Reagan, & Bush. Yes we can agree their doctrines were bad but they were not for that president’s personal interests.

It’s a cult of personality, following the same trajectory as most cults do when the guy at the center starts to look like he’s full of shit and their whole worldview begins to crumble.

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:36:47pm

re: #270 Targetpractice

even the media is starting to drip, drip, drip
guess they just needed some dems to show them how to do it

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:37:45pm

re: #270 Targetpractice

Why does Juan Williams let himself be used like that?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:38:52pm

re: #276 jaunte

Why does Juan Williams let himself be used like that?

Money.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:39:15pm

re: #276 jaunte

Why does Juan Williams let himself be used like that?

“Money, dear boy.”

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:39:30pm

re: #276 jaunte

Why does Juan Williams let himself be used like that?

Why do hookers let strange men fuck them?

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:40:03pm

re: #274 Targetpractice

It’s a cult of personality, following the same trajectory as most cults do when the guy at the center starts to look like he’s full of shit and their whole worldview begins to crumble.

And it usually ends with the leader of said personality cult either fleeing with as much cash as they can load on their getaway plane and into their offshore accounts or hanging from the end of a rope.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:40:15pm

Sometimes I let a rhetorical question get loose.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:40:22pm
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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:40:24pm

re: #279 I Would Prefer Not To

Indeed.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:40:58pm

re: #280 TedStriker

And it usually ends with the leader of said personality cult either fleeing with as much cash as they can load on their getaway plane or ending up hanging at the end of a rope.

Sadly, too many in history have taken as many of their disciples with them as possible on the way out.

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MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:41:11pm

re: #243 DodgerFan1988

RTing Noah Rothman is like RTing Joe Walsh (not the guitar player). It feels wrong and slimy.

Yet here we are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:42:37pm
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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:43:22pm

re: #279 I Would Prefer Not To

Why do hookers let strange men fuck them?

cause normal ones wont?

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:44:48pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

this argument against Biden is NOT going to work

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:45:13pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:46:04pm

Faux’s talking point in condensed form: “When Biden did it it was totally illegal, but Trump doing it now is not in any way criminal!”

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:47:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:47:56pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:48:01pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds familiar…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:48:26pm

re: #293 Blind Frog Belly White

Sounds familiar…..

I thought so, as well.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:51:10pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought so, as well.

Too many parallels.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:51:55pm

re: #295 Blind Frog Belly White

Too many parallels.

I mean it. In 50 years, historians will burst out in guffaws whenever they try to write about this time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:52:10pm

re: #221 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump: My UN meetings were pretty staggering.

People at the UN: Who?

He staggered in because he couldn’t walk due to the amount of drugs he had been taking.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:52:44pm

re: #261 MsJ

CNBC weigh in.

A whole lot of people are assuming the Senate would not vote to convict Trump in an impeachment trial if it came to that, but, given the GOP’s going to want to keep all of that power they’ve gotten with Trump in the WH and McConnell running the Senate, I fully expect there will be backroom dealings to shield Pence from his complictness in order to propel him to POTUS.

Not saying it would absolutely happen, but I guarantee McConnell and the GOP Senate and House leadership is wargaming that shit right now.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:52:48pm

re: #297 The Pie Overlord!

He staggered in because he couldn’t walk due to the amount of drugs he had been taking.

No STA-MI-NA!!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:52:56pm
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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:55:02pm

It’s almost 6 PM on the east coast. Wasn’t Rudy going to release damaging evidence against Biden today?

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:55:40pm

Who wants some Apple Cake?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:57:02pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Who wants some Apple Cake?

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ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:57:14pm

re: #301 Dread Pirate

It’s almost 6 PM on the east coast. Wasn’t Rudy going to release damaging evidence against Biden today?

Obama’s REAL birth certificate?

Melania’s immigration status press conference?

The Whitey Tape?

“This list in my hand of over 200 Communists employed by our Federal Government!”

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:57:46pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Who wants some Apple Cake?

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Only if I can have it with ice cream. It’s HOT!!!!

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:58:11pm

re: #292 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Jebediah, RBG  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:58:23pm

re: #174 Dave In Austin

My fishing buddy Pete. Hell of a mandolin player as well. (Band: Mother Neff).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:58:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 25, 2019 • 2:59:37pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:00:20pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:01:27pm

re: #277 Blind Frog Belly White

Money.

changes everything

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:03:13pm

re: #311 Barefoot Grin

changes everything

Makes the world go around,
the world go around,
the world go around.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:04:24pm

re: #309 The Pie Overlord!

I’ve listened to the audiobook version of Norma Ohler’s “Blitzed” so many times in the last three years.

It’s so damn true.

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:04:34pm

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That second clip…he knows he’s toast.

Also - thread.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:05:06pm

re: #312 Blind Frog Belly White

Makes the world go around,
the world go around,
the world go around.

Trash men didn’t get my trash today
Oh, why
Because they want more pay
Buses on strike want a raise in fare
So they can help pollute the air

But that’s what makes the world go ‘round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people’s heads around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go ‘round

Wall Street losing dough on every share
They’re blaming it on longer hair
Big men smoking in their easy chairs
On a fat cigar without a care

But that’s what makes the world go ‘round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people, heads around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go ‘round

But that’s what makes the world go ‘round
The up and down, the carousel
Changing people, heads around
Go underground, young man
People make the world go ‘round

People make the world go ‘round
People make the world go ‘round
People make the world go ‘round

People make the world go ‘round

Youtube Video

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Semper Fi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:05:17pm

re: #271 Backwoods_Sleuth

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She’s just a big sneezer…

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:06:56pm

The Susan Hennessey comment above about Trump’s comment as implied threat about former Ambassador to Ukraine should be read in the context of Strzok, Page, McCabe, and many others fucked by this administration.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:10:13pm

I suspect several dozen socks of mine, too. (Single, unmatched)

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:10:28pm

Don’t know why buy “Sympathy for the Devil” is the earworm for the day.

The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil (Lyric Video)

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Semper Fi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:11:48pm

re: #297 The Pie Overlord!

He staggered in because he couldn’t walk due to the amount of drugs he had been taking.

Trump surely wasn’t himself…subdued like just before the end of the world.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:13:05pm

re: #319 Dave In Austin

Don’t know why buy “Sympathy for the Devil” is the earworm for the day.

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As a teenager the “Get Yer Ya Ya’s Out” version* was a go to over the studio version. But I’ve come to appreciate the studio version for an artifact of another turbulent time polished in the studio.

*I’m aware that the “live” version was later enhanced with some studio performances.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:13:06pm

re: #311 Barefoot Grin

changes everything

Cyndi Lauper - Money Changes Everything (Official Live Video)

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DangerMan  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:15:10pm

this is apparently a thing

nothing against cheez-its
i am formally declaring i would eat pineapple on pizza before this

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:16:21pm

re: #321 Barefoot Grin

As a teenager the “Get Yer Ya Ya’s Out” version* was a go to over the studio version. But I’ve come to appreciate the studio version for an artifact of another turbulent time polished in the studio.

*I’m aware that the “live” version was later enhanced with some studio performances.

Artifact……. it is and that’s perfect, and the song is relevant >>>>>>RIGHT NOW<<<<<

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:16:57pm

re: #323 DangerMan

this is apparently a thing

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nothing against cheez-its
i am formally declaring i would eat pineapple on pizza before this

no no NO, HELL NO!!!

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:17:19pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Who wants some Apple Cake?

[Embedded content]

OH NUMMY!!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:17:33pm

re: #323 DangerMan

this is apparently a thing

[Embedded content]

nothing against cheez-its
i am formally declaring i would eat pineapple on pizza before this

My response to this is not really so much “For the love of god, WHY?!?” as it is “What. Is. That?”

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:20:50pm

Slightly late to the conversation, but I listened to some of Trump’s presser and I’ve never heard him sound so tired. He improved a bit as he got into his “Biden, Biden, Hillary” routine, but I was a bit taken aback. He usually shows a bit more energy.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:21:07pm

re: #323 DangerMan

I would eat the whole thing. MMMMMMCHEEEEEEEZITSSSSS

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:22:03pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

I DO!!

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:22:08pm

re: #328 calochortus

Slightly late to the conversation, but I listened to some of Trump’s presser and I’ve never heard him sound so tired. He improved a bit as he got into his “Biden, Biden, Hillary” routine, but I was a bit taken aback. He usually shows a bit more energy.

Timing meds is an art.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:23:24pm
This should have said “Chuck” of course.
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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:25:51pm

re: #331 Barefoot Grin

Timing meds is an art.

There are even a few Freepers that noticed the lack of energy and they aren’t getting a ton of pushback.
I hope it shows that he’s noticed he has a problem.

edit: someone did get banned for posting about Trump’s lack of energy. No wonder their fundraising goes on forever-they aren’t going to have anyone left on that site.

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makeitstop  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:26:39pm

re: #332 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This should have said “Chuck” of course.

Same dif.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:27:48pm

It’s hard to believe, I know, but Erick Erickson finally said something not stupid.

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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:28:01pm

re: #327 Blind Frog Belly White

My response to this is not really so much “For the love of god, WHY?!?” as it is “What. Is. That?”

re: #329 plansbandc

I would eat the whole thing. MMMMMMCHEEEEEEEZITSSSSS

It’s like what Dr. Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park: “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.”

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:28:25pm

Things are stoopid fluid today.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:29:07pm
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TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:30:09pm

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s hard to believe, I know, but Erick Erickson finally said something not stupid.

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Inorite?

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:30:29pm
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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:31:51pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:31:59pm

re: #339 TedStriker

Inorite?

“My account was hacked!”

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:34:30pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Seriously……. I’ll pay if you’ll ship…..

My weakness! My Joy! My Precious!!!!!

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:34:40pm

re: #337 teleskiguy

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Things are stoopid fluid today.

It’s amazing how quickly all those “moderates” jumped in line the moment Nancy blew the whistle. It’s almost like the months of arguing that she couldn’t move until she had the votes was total bunk.

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Mike Lamb  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:35:04pm

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s hard to believe, I know, but Erick Erickson finally said something not stupid.

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Wasn’t part of the reason that the prosecutor was fired is because he wouldn’t properly investigate the oligarch that was running the company where Hunter Biden was on the Board of Directors.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:36:07pm

re: #302 The Pie Overlord!

Where do you live again? I need a huge slice of that.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:36:35pm

re: #323 DangerMan

this is apparently a thing

[Embedded content]

nothing against cheez-its
i am formally declaring i would eat pineapple on pizza before this

You can always pick the pineapple off.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:37:51pm

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s hard to believe, I know, but Erick Erickson finally said something not stupid.

[Embedded content]

Amazing! Erick son of Erick actually viciously critiqued the RW nuts out there and supported the firing of the prosecutor.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:38:28pm

re: #341 goddamnedfrank

“[The accusations] are real, and they’re spectacular.”

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CarolJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:39:22pm

re: #344 Targetpractice

That’s exactly what happened. She knew that eventually Trump would get her those votes. Besides it’s been just 9 months as Speaker. Before moving, she had to at least get to know her crowd, get them to support her as speaker, let them get used to legislating, and then do the big ask. She could do that because she knows politics and psychology.

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:39:37pm

re: #335 Blind Frog Belly White

It’s hard to believe, I know, but Erick Erickson finally said something not stupid.

[Embedded content]

Okay, now I need to lie back and take calming breaths. This is a stopped century clock moment.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:41:09pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:41:10pm

re: #338 The Pie Overlord!

Adulthood and maturity is a spectrum. Which is why 30 states have the age of consent set at 16 (to some degree). And why you can get a drivers license at 16, vote at 18, drink and gamble at 21 (some places it’s 18), and be tried as an adult at like 13.

Nothing magically changes between 17 years 364 days and 18 years and 1 day.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:41:26pm

re: #344 Targetpractice

It’s amazing how quickly all those “moderates” jumped in line the moment Nancy blew the whistle. It’s almost like the months of arguing that she couldn’t move until she had the votes was total bunk.

Maybe, but someone on the PBS Newshour said that now the whistleblower’s report is out, there is apparently a possibility that the House is going to drop their other investigations to concentrate on this issue. Which means (to me, a total non-professional) that there must be more explicit stuff in there. Apparently this is the big, unambiguous lawbreaking they needed.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:41:41pm

re: #347 A hollow voice says, Inpeach…

You can always pick the pineapple off.

Sure, but the juice is in the cheese at that point…

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:43:40pm

Nebraska Speaks…….

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A hollow voice says, Inpeach...  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:44:42pm

re: #355 KGxvi

Sure, but the juice is in the cheese at that point…

Nor really. Water and fat aren’t soluble in each other, and if there’s enough cheese, it will keep the pineapple juice out of the crust. The pollution will be minimal.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:45:25pm

re: #354 calochortus

Maybe, but someone on the PBS Newshour said that now the whistleblower’s report is out, there is apparently a possibility that the House is going to drop their other investigations to concentrate on this issue. Which means (to me, a total non-professional) that there must be more explicit stuff in there. Apparently this is the big, unambiguous lawbreaking they needed.

Unless they think they can get the votes to convict and remove in the Senate on this issue, dropping the other investigations is a damn fool idea.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:45:47pm

re: #356 Dave In Austin

Nebraska Speaks…….

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You don’t know your party do ya Ben?

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:45:50pm

re: #356 Dave In Austin

Nebraska Speaks…….

[Embedded content]

Concerned, is he?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:46:29pm

re: #358 KGxvi

Unless they think they can get the votes to convict and remove in the Senate on this issue, dropping the other investigations is a damn fool idea.

Agree. There’s a lot he should be impeached over.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:46:47pm

re: #360 calochortus

Concerned, is he?

It’s his middle name.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:46:53pm

re: #353 KGxvi

Adulthood and maturity is a spectrum.

Which is why the internet is full of men, from their 20s to their 70s, who still mistake bravado and posturing for authentic strength; can’t tell their emotions from facts but think emotional expression invalidates a claim; and turn every subject into an exploration of their fears and preferences when it comes to power, fucking, and how scared they are that they won’t get to fuck anyone if they don’t have power.

If anything summarizes the US’s current political moment, it’s that we’re seeing the end stage of a culture where dudes have been encourage to think of acting like 10-year-old bullies as rebellious and brave.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:47:29pm
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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:48:03pm

re: #358 KGxvi

Unless they think they can get the votes to convict and remove in the Senate on this issue, dropping the other investigations is a damn fool idea.

If this is their best bet for showing clear lawbreaking, it might not be a bad idea to at least put the other investigations on hold. If the Senate won’t convict on Trump obviously breaking a clearly written law, I don’t know why they would convict on something more ambiguous.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:48:48pm

He lost Ben Sasse.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:48:56pm

re: #364 Dread Pirate

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Mike Pence, during the Impeachment Trial: “I vass chust followink orderss.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:49:35pm

re: #366 Ace Rothstein

He lost Ben Sasse.

Not exactly the same as losing Walter Cronkite.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:50:11pm

re: #366 Ace Rothstein

He lost Ben Sasse.

Maybe, although I love the way he says Dems shouldn’t have rushed to open an impeachment inquiry last night, but rather, waited till this afternoon.

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Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:50:42pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:52:07pm

re: #354 calochortus

Maybe, but someone on the PBS Newshour said that now the whistleblower’s report is out, there is apparently a possibility that the House is going to drop their other investigations to concentrate on this issue. Which means (to me, a total non-professional) that there must be more explicit stuff in there. Apparently this is the big, unambiguous lawbreaking they needed.

Honestly, I think it was more the realization after the op-ed was published Monday that if she allowed this scandal to pass, if she continued to stay opposed to impeachment, then she was fast facing a possible leadership challenge. That the message was becoming clear: “You’re on the losing side of this argument.”

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:52:50pm

re: #369 Blind Frog Belly White

Maybe, although I love the way he says Dems shouldn’t have rushed to open an impeachment inquiry last night, but rather, waited till this afternoon.

He needed time to grab his brown pants.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:54:37pm

Hopefully more and more Republicans in the coming days:

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:55:15pm

re: #371 Targetpractice

Honestly, I think it was more the realization after the op-ed was published Monday that if she allowed this scandal to pass, if she continued to stay opposed to impeachment, then she was fast facing a possible leadership challenge. That the message was becoming clear: “You’re on the losing side of this argument.”

Or an exciting combination of factors. We’ll probably never know for sure. In any event, they’re shooting at the king and this had better not be a miss. Even if Senate won’t convict, law breaking has to be proved unequivocally.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:56:10pm

re: #365 calochortus

If this is their best bet for showing clear lawbreaking, it might not be a bad idea to at least put the other investigations on hold. If the Senate won’t convict on Trump obviously breaking a clearly written law, I don’t know why they would convict on something more ambiguous.

My point is, if they don’t think they can get to 67 on any one charge, then they should force Republicans to vote on a couple dozen charges.

That said, I do see the potential for Republicans getting together and splintering their votes so there’s 60-65 votes to convict on each charge but not enough to remove on a single charge.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:56:59pm

re: #373 Ace Rothstein

Hopefully more and more Republicans in the coming days:

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We might see it if they’ll see that it’s Trump or them. Haven’t seen any polls since this.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:57:51pm

re: #363 The Ghost of a Flea

Adulthood and maturity is a spectrum.

Which is why the internet is full of men, from their 20s to their 70s, who still mistake bravado and posturing for authentic strength; can’t tell their emotions from facts but think emotional expression invalidates a claim; and turn every subject into an exploration of their fears and preferences when it comes to power, fucking, and how scared they are that they won’t get to fuck anyone if they don’t have power.

If anything summarizes the US’s current political moment, it’s that we’re seeing the end stage of a culture where dudes have been encourage to think of acting like 10-year-old bullies as rebellious and brave.

The dudebro era can’t come to an end soon enough. There will be so much stomping up stairs and doors slamming in the meantime.

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:58:36pm

Is Senator Collins very disappointed yet?

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:59:05pm

re: #376 HappyWarrior

Give it time.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:59:16pm

re: #375 KGxvi

My point is, if they don’t think they can get to 67 on any one charge, then they should force Republicans to vote on a couple dozen charges.

That said, I do see the potential for Republicans getting together and splintering their votes so there’s 60-65 votes to convict on each charge but not enough to remove on a single charge.

I think it all hinges on whether Mr. and Mrs. Middle America realize Trump is a crook. If they do, the Senate will scramble to convict. If not, probably not.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 3:59:18pm

re: #378 Dread Pirate

Just concerned.

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:02:04pm
383
Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:02:06pm

Life comes at you fast.

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gwangung  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:02:54pm

re: #374 calochortus

The calculus was ALWAYS that Pelosi had to be SEEN as being dragged kicking and screaming to impeachment. She could NEVER be seen as too eager to resort to it.

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garzooma  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:03:15pm

re: #345 Mike Lamb

Wasn’t part of the reason that the prosecutor was fired is because he wouldn’t properly investigate the oligarch that was running the company where Hunter Biden was on the Board of Directors.

That’s why it’s gaslighting. It’s obviously bogus. If they had anything legit, the FBI would be handling it.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:03:18pm

Do we have an active list of concerned/troubled Republicans yet?

I don’t think anyone has broken ranks in the House. In the Senate it’s Sasse, Romney, and Collins, at this point, right?

387
HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:04:55pm

re: #382 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

So a naked little girl would be fine. The Daily Wire is Ben Shapiro’s pathetic excuse for a rag.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:05:02pm

re: #344 Targetpractice

It’s amazing how quickly all those “moderates” jumped in line the moment Nancy blew the whistle. It’s almost like the months of arguing that she couldn’t move until she had the votes was total bunk.

They lined up because the Ukraine call was over the line for enough of them that they couldn’t deny it. Then Pelosi made her call.

389
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:06:15pm

Oh, hey….

390
piratedan  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:07:32pm

re: #384 gwangung

because as soon as she did, the GOP talking point and then the media focus would be equally on Pelosi’s ambitions as it would be Trump’s law-breaking.

For fucks sake, the media stayed doggedly focused on e-mail minutiae over multiple allegations of sexual assault, fraud , racism and lying… and for all we know, they STILL may do this despite the tacit understanding that this is the most corrupt administration in the history of our nation, not just in the cases of greed and self-aggrandizing behavior, but in actual treason to attain those aims and our fourth estate is STILL mostly concerned with stories that drive revenue over actual reporting of the news and facts.

391
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:08:15pm

*DING DING DING DING DING*

392
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:08:57pm

Christ, it sure feels like a Friday.

393
calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:10:34pm

Has there been a translation of Zelensky’s remarks in Ukrainian at the news conference?

394
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:10:53pm

re: #392 Blind Frog Belly White

Christ, it sure feels like a Friday.

How I wish…

395
Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:11:14pm

re: #392 Blind Frog Belly White

Christ, it sure feels like a Friday.

The rest of this week is going to be lit, yo.

/

396
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:12:22pm

re: #392 Blind Frog Belly White

Christ, it sure feels like a Friday.

By Friday we won’t even remember Wednesday….

397
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:14:18pm

re: #373 Ace Rothstein

Hopefully more and more Republicans in the coming days:

[Embedded content]

In the end, I hope Trump ends up like Henry Hill at the end of Goodfellas (though Hill’s life after the fictionalized events of the movies was, at times, just as interesting):

See, the hardest thing for me was leaving the life. I still love the life. And we were treated like movie stars with muscle. We had it all, just for the asking. Our wives, mothers, kids, everybody rode along. I had paper bags filled with jewelry stashed in the kitchen. I had a sugar bowl full of coke next to the bed. Anything I wanted was a phone call away. Free cars. The keys to a dozen hideout flats all over the city. I’d bet twenty, thirty grand over a weekend and then I’d either blow the winnings in a week or go to the sharks to pay back the bookies. Didn’t matter. It didn’t mean anything. When I was broke I would go out and rob some more. We ran everything. We paid off cops. We paid off lawyers. We paid off judges. Everybody had their hands out. Everything was for the taking. And now it’s all over. And that’s the hardest part. Today, everything is different. There’s no action. I have to wait around like everyone else. Can’t even get decent food. Right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I’m an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.

398
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:14:32pm

We have Acting DNI Director Maguire’s testimony to look forward to tomorrow, which should be of interest now that the whistleblower complaint has been “released.” I expect a lot of “I don’t recalls” and “I can’t speak about that in an open sessions” from him.

399
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:14:48pm

I still can’t believe this is going down and it is going down fast.

From zero to 200 in nothing flat, now I know how the astronauts feel like during liftoff.

400
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:16:38pm

re: #399 b.d.

I still can’t believe this is going down and it is going down fast.

From zero to 200 in nothing flat, now I know how the astronauts feel like during liftoff.

The Byrds - Eight Miles High (Audio)

401
gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:17:05pm

re: #389 Blind Frog Belly White

402
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:17:15pm
403
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:17:29pm
404
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:19:20pm

re: #402 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

McCarthy introducing a bill to complain about the placing of the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:20:17pm

Trump is done. Hopefully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:20:56pm
407
gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:21:20pm
408
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:22:16pm

The fact that Biden won’t even be the nominee at all will be the most ironic part of this historic downfall.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:22:28pm

re: #407 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

What’s the middle ground between equality and slavery?

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:22:28pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:23:23pm

re: #409 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s the middle ground between equality and slavery?

Indentured servitude?

(ducks)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:23:33pm

re: #408 b.d.

The fact that Biden won’t even be the nominee at all will be the most ironic part of this historic downfall.

President Warren will have a good laugh at that.

413
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:23:57pm

hmmmmm

414
Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:24:42pm

re: #386 KGxvi

Maybe Murkowski?

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:24:47pm

re: #407 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

There’s Nothing in the Middle of the Road but Yellow Stripes and Dead Armadillos

- Jim Hightower

amazon.com

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:25:06pm

Driving home listening to the day’s news being reported on NPR, and I couldn’t help but notice they’re really downplaying this dumpster fire. When did they decide to muffle the news that Trump is a disaster?

417
MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:25:17pm

re: #399 b.d.

I still can’t believe this is going down and it is going down fast.

From zero to 200 in nothing flat, now I know how the astronauts feel like during liftoff.

Well, their admitting to it really kicked everything into high gear.

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:26:19pm

re: #410 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

lol @ the Caddyshack reference

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:26:34pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

Possibly joining Amash as an independent?

420
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:27:52pm

re: #419 KGxvi

Possibly joining Amash as an independent?

I dunno…Ratcliffe was spouting all the pro-trump talking points up until just a few hours ago.

421
Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:28:32pm

Isn’t there a point where the mob boss is no longer useful?

422
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:28:35pm

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno…Ratcliffe was spouting all the pro-trump talking points up until just a few hours ago.

he got caught doing something would be my guess

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:28:37pm
424
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:28:43pm

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno…Ratcliffe was spouting all the pro-trump talking points up until just a few hours ago.

here’s his last tweet today:

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Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:10pm
426
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:31pm

re: #409 Blind Frog Belly White

What’s the middle ground between equality and slavery?

Wage slavery, obviously.

/

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b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:35pm

re: #421 Ace Rothstein

Isn’t there a point where the mob boss is no longer useful?

Pence is going to take the POTUS on a fishing trip.

Trump should call Carter and thank him for selling the presidential yacht.

428
gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:52pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Rabbi has blocked me, not sure why.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:52pm

re: #382 gocart mozart

And when we do, he won’t care.

430
EPR-radar  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:29:57pm

re: #358 KGxvi

Unless they think they can get the votes to convict and remove in the Senate on this issue, dropping the other investigations is a damn fool idea.

Yes, the House needs to investigate everything. The D media strategy needs to be tightly focused on the simplest/worst example of Trump’s lawlessness, but that’s different than the underlying work by the House on impeachment.

431
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:30:44pm
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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:31:20pm

re: #381 Ace Rothstein

Just concerned.

Brow watchers on high alert.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:31:57pm
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EPR-radar  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:32:08pm

re: #384 gwangung

The calculus was ALWAYS that Pelosi had to be SEEN as being dragged kicking and screaming to impeachment. She could NEVER be seen as too eager to resort to it.

I.e., the very best kind of political theater. Completely necessary and competently done.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:32:41pm
436
Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:33:15pm

re: #408 b.d.

The fact that Biden won’t even be the nominee at all will be the most ironic part of this historic downfall.

Isn’t it ironic? Lol.

437
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:33:45pm

re: #420 Backwoods_Sleuth

I dunno…Ratcliffe was spouting all the pro-trump talking points up until just a few hours ago.

re: #422 b.d.

he got caught doing something would be my guess

re: #424 Backwoods_Sleuth

here’s his last tweet today:

The Democrats continue to make false accusations about crimes that didn’t occur and promise evidence that doesn’t exist - and they can never deliver - this time at the expense of our national security. pic.twitter.com

— John Ratcliffe (@RepRatcliffe) September 25, 2019

Or, he’s realizing that Trump’s guilty as sin and he’s trying to distance himself as much as possible, short of a complete resignation from the House.

438
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:34:01pm

LOL, Incredibly tanned plastic man has it figured out! We’re doomed!!!!!

439
jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:36:25pm

Message from Bizarro World:

440
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:36:31pm

re: #426 Targetpractice

Wage slavery, obviously.

/

“We want our wages!”

“You don’t want to be wage slaves, do you? Well, you know what makes wage slaves? Wages!”

441
KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:36:50pm

What’s the filing deadline in Iowa and New Hampshire?

Hypothetically, let’s say this goes down the best way possible - Trump is impeached, the Senate convicts, removes, and bars him from public office. Pence becomes president (I know, but I said best way possible, not perfect). Obviously he has to get on ballots ASAP, but how many other Republicans immediate announce? Talk about a complete clusterfuck of a primary…

442
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:36:55pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

hmmmmm

[Embedded content]

Interesting. My useless rep.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:38:26pm

re: #419 KGxvi

Possibly joining Amash as an independent?

Ratcliffe is from one of the most conservative districts in the country. He isn’t going independent.

444
plansbandc  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:38:29pm

re: #438 b.d.

He’s profoundly stupid.

445
Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:38:34pm

re: #441 KGxvi

What’s the filing deadline in Iowa and New Hampshire?

Hypothetically, let’s say this goes down the best way possible - Trump is impeached, the Senate convicts, removes, and bars him from public office. Pence becomes president (I know, but I said best way possible, not perfect). Obviously he has to get on ballots ASAP, but how many other Republicans immediate announce? Talk about a complete clusterfuck of a primary…

I”m thinking those states that cancelled their primaries might look pretty silly.

446
MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:38:38pm

re: #441 KGxvi

What’s the filing deadline in Iowa and New Hampshire?

Hypothetically, let’s say this goes down the best way possible - Trump is impeached, the Senate convicts, removes, and bars him from public office. Pence becomes president (I know, but I said best way possible, not perfect). Obviously he has to get on ballots ASAP, but how many other Republicans immediate announce? Talk about a complete clusterfuck of a primary…

Especially since several States are not having a Republican primary.

Good job, GOP.

447
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:39:24pm

re: #384 gwangung

The calculus was ALWAYS that Pelosi had to be SEEN as being dragged kicking and screaming to impeachment. She could NEVER be seen as too eager to resort to it.

I realize that, but Pelosi cut it damn close, as evidenced by the frustrations being voiced by Charles and others here as recently as this weekend.

448
KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:40:12pm

re: #443 Belafon

Ratcliffe is from one of the most conservative districts in the country. He isn’t going independent.

I only meant “independent” in the sense that he’d resign from the GOP caucus. Amash had to give up his committee assignments when he left the caucus. Not like the House rules allow the minority to do much on the committees beyond grandstanding.

449
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:41:36pm
450
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:42:33pm

re: #449 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

“Ask me again, motherf*cker! I dare you! I double dare you, ask me one more time!”

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:42:41pm
452
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:42:58pm

re: #447 TedStriker

I realize that, but Pelosi cut it damn close, as evidenced by the frustrations being voiced by Charles and others here as recently as this weekend.

While true, we’re all armchair politicians.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:43:05pm

re: #438 b.d.

LOL, Incredibly tanned plastic man has it figured out! We’re doomed!!!!!

[Embedded content]

More projection than an IMAX theater.

454
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:43:32pm

re: #449 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

[Embedded content]

oh great, as if Samuel Jackson wasn’t everywhere already.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:43:53pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:44:18pm

re: #446 MsJ

Especially since several States are not having a Republican primary.

Good job, GOP.

So far, only Alaska, Arizona, Kansas, Nevada, and South Carolina have cancelled their primaries/caucuses.

Granted, the spectacle of a brokered convention after a president has been impeached/removed would be fucking magical. I’m rooting for the biggest shitshow we’ve ever seen on the GOP side, let it all burn.

457
Dave In Austin  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:44:24pm

The natives are restless this evening. The Bot count is also through the roof.

458
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:44:28pm

re: #449 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Samuel L. Jackson’s voice will soon be coming to Amazon Alexa devices cbsnews.com pic.twitter.com

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 25, 2019

re: #450 Targetpractice

“Ask me again, motherf*cker! I dare you! I double dare you, ask me one more time!”

“”What” ain’t no country I’ve ever heard of. They speak English in What?”

459
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:46:11pm

re: #458 TedStriker

“”What” ain’t no country I’ve ever heard of. They speak English in What?”

“Get up, Motherfucker!”

460
Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:46:24pm

re: #449 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Hold the cussing, Samuel.

461
TedStriker  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:46:27pm

re: #454 b.d.

oh great, as if Samuel Jackson wasn’t everywhere already.

NTTAWWT

462
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:46:41pm
463
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:47:08pm
464
KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:48:11pm

re: #450 Targetpractice

“Ask me again, motherf*cker! I dare you! I double dare you, ask me one more time!”

“Say what again!”

465
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:48:13pm

re: #461 TedStriker

NTTAWWT

If you watch Spider-man far from home, you can actually catch subtle clues of him pretending to be someone else being him.

466
Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:48:18pm

re: #438 b.d.

Thanks for the belly laugh. I needed that.

467
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:49:32pm

Not going to listen to the audio, the headline is good enough.

468
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:51:29pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:51:46pm

re: #467 b.d.

The best part of that is Williams saying something along the lines of “let’s get Katie in here and see if she has anything original to say.”

470
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:53:27pm

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:53:44pm

I’ve got to go start dinner, but first, I give you FoxNews’ take on today

BBL

472
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:56:14pm
473
MsJ  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:56:55pm

re: #463 Targetpractice

Not hot enough. Not until the GOP had been nuked, salted, crushed and spread to the four corners of the Earth.

And then each is nuked again for good measure.

474
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 4:58:59pm
475
gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:01:56pm
476
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:02:06pm
477
Dread Pirate  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:02:24pm

re: #449 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

My Brain just went there when I saw him.

YouTube

478
b.d. (Impeach them all)  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:02:36pm

re: #476 Belafon

[Embedded content]

damn! damn!!

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:05:00pm
480
jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:05:30pm
481
uriel  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:06:34pm

re: #445 Blind Frog Belly White

I”m thinking those states that cancelled their primaries might look pretty silly.

I read an analysis somewhere that, absent a primary, the delegates go to the convention essentially unbound from any candidate by a popular vote- they can nominate anyone they want.

So, it might actually be *better* for those states- they can turn on Trump whenever, for any reason, and throw their lot behind Pence. If he’s still around, that is.

482
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:08:37pm
483
Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:09:17pm

re: #479 gocart mozart

[Embedded content]

That’s been my suspicion since Biden was named as the target, that this was in some way an effort at “payback” for Manafort.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:10:12pm
485
Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:13:25pm

This trip started as a way to transport heavy household goods to the kid and grandkid’s new home in Denver. It has grown weird. Like “0330 wakeup for a dawn balloon flight” weird.

486
Stanley Sea  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:15:44pm

re: #428 gocart mozart

The Rabbi has blocked me, not sure why.

Same. I haven’t stumbled on being blocked. First time.

Must be a list.

487
PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:17:04pm

re: #486 Stanley Sea

Probably so.

488
teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:18:55pm

re: #485 Decatur Deb

FECKms/ii9nZpdT/A/GosAmfSqNzAmprCbnb15VlnkwoABtOKH8NMwVW3SlxdguHtXCIiAhuSio8dPkKPl7XJWXfYDcx3uHXKnsKjhT/dUzVfqy+RBzwfUXY2KqYVQzx1aa/WaVsljPL4gNCO4kwcQ==

You made it to California?

489
Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:19:46pm

re: #413 Backwoods_Sleuth

490
lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:26:53pm

re: #489 Belafon

Ayep.

Ratcliffe’s nomination to replace Coates was solely because he pushed the Trumpist line during the Mueller hearing. He’s been spewing Trumpist talking points for months, but the timing of this is highly curious.

You don’t drop out of the DHS Committee at this point unless the bulkshit is about to hit the fan.

491
PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:26:54pm

re: #489 Belafon

I think we are going to see a lot more of these sudden resignations in the next few weeks/months.

492
Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:27:10pm

re: #489 Belafon

Renan Levine
@RenanLevine
Ratcliffe was nominated to be DNI until people found out he inflated his bio. This is… 🤔
I suspect he is a possible witness, privy to info & participating in events since the Zelensky phone call happened the before he was nominated DNI

1
6:35 PM - Sep 25, 2019

Interesting — here Ratcliffe was ranting and defending the President; he must have had first hand knowledge of Trump’s attitude on Ukraine. If so, that would just confirm our widespread belief here that every Republican in the House is either totally corrupt or a coward (or both).

493
Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:30:37pm

re: #457 Dave In Austin

The natives are restless this evening. The Bot count is also through the roof.

We have troll-sign the like of which even God has not seen.

494
lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:32:12pm

re: #493 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Troll in the dungeon
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:33:22pm

re: #489 Belafon

[Embedded content]

Lizards are THE BEST at finding source material.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:33:25pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:33:30pm

Instagram

A special announcement from Nancy Pelosi. #TNYcartoons

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:33:38pm

re: #494 lawhawk

All heck is breaking loose. And almost everyone is running for cover.

499
Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:36:12pm

re: #488 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

You made it to California?

Not this trip. We looped I40 towards Grand Canyon with a diversion to Denver. We’ll drop down to I10 and home via NOLA if the bridges and hurricanes let us. Still in Albuquerque.

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lawhawk  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:36:51pm

Yup…. we’ve all seen how Trump ignores the rules and the rule of law to do whatever he wants if it’s to enrich himself or his cronies. You betcha that he’d violate opsec and document preservation rules if it’d implicate Trump in still more criminality.

501
Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:37:58pm
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Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:39:13pm

re: #497 Belafon

I don’t tell the doc when to cut on a spleen or kidney. Pelosi’s a pro, so I’m trusting her to say when or whether to remove this cancer.

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:50:31pm

re: #499 Decatur Deb

Not this trip. We looped I40 towards Grand Canyon with a diversion to Denver. We’ll drop down to I10 and home via NOLA if the bridges and hurricanes let us. Still in Albuquerque.

Anyone calling you George after a wrong turn?

504
Decatur Deb  Sep 25, 2019 • 5:52:15pm

re: #503 William Lewis

Anyone calling you George after a wrong turn?

Don’t catch on to George, but there was a pilot named “Wrong Way Corrigan” or such.

505
John Hughes  Sep 26, 2019 • 1:55:19am

re: #319 Dave In Austin

Orchestre National de Barbés Live - Sympathy for the Devil @ Sziget 2012


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A Water War Is Brewing Between the U.S. And Mexico. Here’s Why A water dispute between the United States and Mexico that goes back decades is turning increasingly urgent in Texas communities that rely on the Rio Grande. Their leaders are now demanding the Mexican government either share water or face ...
Cheechako
2 days ago
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Harper’s Magazine: Slippery Slope - How Private Equity Shapes a Ski Town …Big Sky stands apart for other reasons. The obvious distinction is the Yellowstone Club, a private resort hidden in the mountains above the community that Justin Farrell, a professor of sociology at Yale and the author of Billionaire Wilderness, ...
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4 days ago
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