Mike Dawes’ Tribute to Eddie Van Halen: “Jump” (Solo Acoustic Guitar)

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When I was 14 I heard Eddie Van Halen play for the first time and his playing changed my world. From transcribing his iconic ‘Beat It’ solo at school to attempting his signature techniques on the acoustic guitar.

I hadn’t played guitar for 2 months due to ‘2020’. Upon hearing the shocking news of Eddie’s passing the impulse to pick up the guitar again came pouring out. There was a great video of Ed going around telling a young fan to ‘play music, just play music man’. I stayed up until 6am that night just playing.

This is made with 100% love and sincerity. It’s a free download with no monetisation or ads on the video (unless the Van Halen publisher wants them)

I wanted to create a tribute in honour of a legend that inspired so many players out there and I hope I’ve done it justice. Maybe it will inspire you to play too.

RIP EVH

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394 comments
1
i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:19:11pm

GOTFV! Steady on to Tuesday!

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:19:43pm

re: #1 i(m)p(each)sos

GOTFV! Steady on to Tuesday!

We’re almost there. Our marathon is almost at an end. Pheidippes would be proud.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:22:48pm

Almost there.

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mmmirele  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:24:17pm

This is a long article by the Australian state broadcaster ABC. It is, I think, an important article about Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon. The center of the article is a guy who left China, had an anti-Chinese Communist Party gig going and got hooked up with Guo and Bannon. The ABC says that this Guo-Bannon outfit are the source of all the Hunter Biden trash.

John Pan is the guy who used to work with Guo-Bannon, but left. This is what happened:

A few days after having a conversation about it with Mr Guo, Mr Guo told his 1.4 million followers in his online broadcasts that Mr Pan was a “CCP spy”, and urged them to attack him.

“He started calling me a fraud and a scam. A Chinese government spy. I should deserve to die,” Mr Pan said.

“I can’t sleep. I’m quite shocked. I had a panic attack.”

On October 8 this year, a group of the online harassers picketed outside his house in Brisbane, waving flags and banners of the New Federal State of China and chanting slogans: “Kick the CCP agent out of Australia.”

This incident frightened Mr Pan, who said his “whole body” was shaking.

The protesters have openly broadcast on social media they will return.

As recently as October 9, Mr Guo’s organiser in Sydney published a call-out to Mr Guo’s Australian followers to travel to Brisbane where Mr Pan lives, once the Queensland border restrictions are lifted, and “carry out the campaign to eliminate the traitor to the end”.

Mr Pan’s name is on a Guo hit list with about 10 other Chinese dissidents around the world.

abc.net.au

Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui are evil people. I hope both end up in prison for a very long time.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:24:52pm
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:30:00pm

re: #4 mmmirele

This is a long article by the Australian state broadcaster ABC. It is, I think, an important article about Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon. The center of the article is a guy who left China, had an anti-Chinese Communist Party gig going and got hooked up with Guo and Bannon. The ABC says that this Guo-Bannon outfit are the source of all the Hunter Biden trash.

John Pan is the guy who used to work with Guo-Bannon, but left. This is what happened:

abc.net.au

Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui are evil people. I hope both end up in prison for a very long time.

And as I’m sure you know Guo has been sponsoring the same kind of suppression activities against Chinese dissidents inside the US.

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William Lewis  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:31:25pm

Ah, that answers my question from downstairs. The Jasmine S35 by Takamine it is.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:41:07pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:42:00pm
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plansbandc  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:45:10pm

Forty-one years ago today, I attended my first Fleetwood Mac concert. It was at McNichols Sports Arena in Denver.

Fabulous show. I was thisclose to getting one of Mick Fleetwood’s drumsticks.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:49:57pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:50:35pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

I agree - and when I look at the mounting desperation of the GOP and their increasingly dangerous (and violent) voter-suppression tactics, it tells me the GOP realizes they’re on the brink of getting their asses handed to them and they’re scared shitless.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 8:57:01pm

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

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I was just talking about this earlier. The WI Democratic Party has done a great job with these.

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BeachDem  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:01:51pm

re: #13 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I was just talking about this earlier. The WI Democratic Party has done a great job with these.

They did a really good job tonight. It was quite the production—and I read somewhere that they put it together in like four days. Very well done. (and the best was in the opening Brad and Janet number, Janet held up a card saying, “Sorry I’m not Susan Sarandon” and I yelled at my computer, “I’m so happy you’re not.”)

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Dave In Austin  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:06:36pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:08:20pm

re: #14 BeachDem

They did a really good job tonight. It was quite the production—and I read somewhere that they put it together in like four days. Very well done. (and the best was in the opening Brad and Janet number, Janet held up a card saying, “Sorry I’m not Susan Sarandon” and I yelled at my computer, “I’m so happy you’re not.”)

That’s great. What’s been cool for me is seeing people having fun and being hopeful about the future.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:12:30pm
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Jack Burton  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:15:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:17:27pm

re: #18 Jack Burton

I’m with John Dean. It’s shocking that Trump still has a viable path to re-election despite showing us over and over again that he’s completely unqualified to hold the office of POTUS. But I’m still hoping for a landslide on Tuesday night. We’ve seen enough.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:19:43pm

It’s a motley list of the worst pulpit pimps in the country.

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i(m)p(each)sos  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:20:21pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

Tax the crap out of all of them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:21:54pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

“You can put your weed in it.”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:22:51pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

It’s a motley list of the worst pulpit pimps in the country.

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Kick every Pulpit Pimp off of the tax-exempt Gravy Train!

TAX THE CHURCHES AND TAX THE BUSINESSES OWNED BY CHURCHES!

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:23:39pm

If I may interject an entirely different topic, I have now watched five episodes of the new Star Trek: Lower Decks. I was worried about it, because of just how bad a Star Trek “comedy” could be — but I approve. In fact, I’m limiting myself to one episode per day so I don’t run out too soon.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:25:37pm

re: #19 Patricia Kayden

I’m with John Dean. It’s shocking that Trump still has a viable path to re-election despite showing us over and over again that he’s completely unqualified to hold the office of POTUS. But I’m still hoping for a landslide on Tuesday night. We’ve seen enough.

The GOP have a hard 40% floor. No matter how shitty a candidate is, they are guaranteed at least 40% of the vote. Why? Because their party’s orthodoxy says that even the worst Republican is better than a good Democrat.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:31:15pm

re: #14 BeachDem

They did a really good job tonight. It was quite the production—and I read somewhere that they put it together in like four days. Very well done. (and the best was in the opening Brad and Janet number, Janet held up a card saying, “Sorry I’m not Susan Sarandon” and I yelled at my computer, “I’m so happy you’re not.”)

That was Rachel Bloom (whom I love!)

And dang, Rumor Willis can sing! She was amazing!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:35:06pm

m.facebook.com
“LOL! This Halloween costume is hilarious!”

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Jay C  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:39:39pm

re: #4 mmmirele

This is a long article by the Australian state broadcaster ABC. It is, I think, an important article about Guo Wengui and Steve Bannon. The center of the article is a guy who left China, had an anti-Chinese Communist Party gig going and got hooked up with Guo and Bannon. The ABC says that this Guo-Bannon outfit are the source of all the Hunter Biden trash.

John Pan is the guy who used to work with Guo-Bannon, but left. This is what happened:

abc.net.au

Steve Bannon and Guo Wengui are evil people. I hope both end up in prison for a very long time.

Yeah, Guo Wengui sounds like a real piece of work: unfortunately, as long as he has the “anti-Communist” thing going for him, he’ll find (or pay) somebody to cover his ass for him, however sleazy his dealings….

Also: weirdly, all the site problems I had yesterday on my iPad seem to have cleared up today: all of LGF is loading and working just fine. Go figure.

Also, too: free bourbon tasting rating: 92* for Evan Williams Single Barrel Vintage. Mine says it was barreled in 7/2012 and bottled in April of this year. So 7 years and 9 months time well spent. Smooth, lightish flavor, subtle finish/nose. 86.6 proof; $37 at my local place, which strikes me as a bargain.

* Just MHO

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:39:47pm
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Belafon  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:48:31pm

Watching the video of the truck pushing the SUV away from the Biden bus, and you can tell at the beginning of the video that the SUV is initially closer to the bus than the truck:

According to the Dallas Morning News, the Trump people are trying to claim that the SUV was swerving all over the place, but it doesn’t look like it. dallasnews.com

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:49:44pm

re: #29 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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It’s almost a guarantee we will, especially in the next two months as millions of people ignore expert advice to travel home for the holidays. I’ve seen plenty of tweets from assholes insisting they’re going home for Thanksgiving no matter what, so expect to see reports of hospitals filling up by Christmas.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:51:07pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Ron

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“You can put your weed in it.”

“Dude, your mom uses pleated sandwich bags?”

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:52:52pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

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It’s a change jar for your pocket, obviously.

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BeachDem  Oct 31, 2020 • 9:54:47pm

re: #26 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That was Rachel Bloom (whom I love!)

And dang, Rumor Willis can sing! She was amazing!

Tim Curry was kind of sad to watch, but you could tell when he talked at the end that he was really glad to be there.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:00:22pm

re: #34 BeachDem

Tim Curry was kind of sad to watch, but you could tell when he talked at the end that he was really glad to be there.

He got better as it went on. I’m glad he was there.

I recorded TRHPS as it was on network TV tonight. Tim Curry had a great ass! 😁

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stpaulbear  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:01:14pm

re: #241 Dave In Austin

Poppy Mathobela
@PopMathobela
What was or is this thing used for?

It’s a container for dead hearing aid batteries.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:02:12pm

It’s Halloween night…a full moon…and I keep reflexively knocking on wood anytime I find myself thinking that it’s gonna be a quiet night at work.

Paranoid? Me? NEVER!

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William Lewis  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:02:55pm

Welcome to November in the CDT zone, though in two hours that will change back to CST.

Count me in the do away with Daylight savings camp. Just get us all back on standard time and leave it alone.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:03:39pm

re: #38 William Lewis

Welcome to November in the CDT zone, though in two hours that will change back to CST.

Count me in the do away with Daylight savings camp. Just get us all back on standard time and leave it alone.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:03:46pm

I do not like the time shift. Messes with my medication doses.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:04:43pm

re: #38 William Lewis

Welcome to November in the CDT zone, though in two hours that will change back to CST.

Count me in the do away with Daylight savings camp. Just get us all back on standard time and leave it alone.

Yeah! Both my clocks will be right again! (We have one giant clock that I can’t quite get to so it’s always an hour off during DST.)

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:06:10pm

I don’t like DST because unlike all you daywalkers who get an hour more to sleep, DST means ghouls like myself end up working a 9 hour shift.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:07:38pm

re: #22 Dread Pirate Ron

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:08:39pm

The nicest Fuck You I’ve seen today.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:19:14pm

re: #44 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The nicest Fuck You I’ve seen today.

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Yeah, I do hope Dr. Fauci understands that if Trump loses next week, he’s on the short list of people that will be fired before year’s end as part of the campaign of spite and anger that Donny will embark upon.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:21:07pm

re: #45 Targetpractice

Yeah, I do hope Dr. Fauci understands that if Trump loses next week, he’s on the short list of people that will be fired before year’s end as part of the campaign of spite and anger that Donny will embark upon.

And then Biden can simply re-hire Dr. Fauci.

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Sherlock Hound  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:25:30pm

re: #39 teleskiguy

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The Vox article is really handwavy: it advocates UTC for everything. I use UTC at work—all our network devices are set to that time zone—and at home as well, as a ham radio operator. But it doesn’t follow that everyone can work like that.

People hate DST in New England, though. People have floated the idea of us moving zones to Atlantic Time (+1 hour from Eastern Time) year-round.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:26:25pm

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

And then Biden can simply re-hire Dr. Fauci.

I suspect he will, as will several others that have been fired or are likely to be fired by Donny before this all ends.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:28:07pm

I wonder if Biden has talked to Fauci. Dunno if they know each other or not.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:30:35pm

Realistically, no matter who wins Tuesday, Trump is gonna spend time in the next months going after everybody who (we were told) was safe from his wrath. If he wins, it will be about him going after those he’s felt “disloyal” to him but couldn’t afford to fire before the election. And if he loses, it will be about going after those he feels hampered his campaign and did not carry out the orders he felt would have led to his victory.

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William Lewis  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:31:54pm

re: #47 Sherlock Hound

The Vox article is really handwavy: it advocates UTC for everything. I use UTC at work—all our network devices are set to that time zone—and at home as well, as a ham radio operator. But it doesn’t follow that everyone can work like that.

People hate DST in New England, though. People have floated the idea of us moving zones to Atlantic Time (+1 hour from Eastern Time) year-round.

The military does alot in UTC (zulu time) but still tracks local time.

Just do away with DST and be done with it.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:32:50pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Realistically, no matter who wins Tuesday, Trump is gonna spend time in the next months going after everybody who (we were told) was safe from his wrath. If he wins, it will be about him going after those he’s felt “disloyal” to him but couldn’t afford to fire before the election. And if he loses, it will be about going after those he feels hampered his campaign and did not carry out the orders he felt would have led to his victory.

Yeah win or lose, it’s gonna be a Donnie resentment tour when he continues to do rallies after the election. I just hope as it grows colder and the virus worse that people just turn out of them and ignore him.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:33:31pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Realistically, no matter who wins Tuesday, Trump is gonna spend time in the next months going after everybody who (we were told) was safe from his wrath. If he wins, it will be about him going after those he’s felt “disloyal” to him but couldn’t afford to fire before the election. And if he loses, it will be about going after those he feels hampered his campaign and did not carry out the orders he felt would have led to his victory.

As long as he spends time in front of a judge and jury I don’t give a fuck what he does. It can all be undone.

We have a Fox News problem that needs to be addressed.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:35:19pm

re: #52 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Yeah win or lose, it’s gonna be a Donnie resentment tour when he continues to do rallies after the election. I just hope as it grows colder and the virus worse that people just turn out of them and ignore him.

Yeah, that was another thing on my mind the other day, that Donny is gonna insist upon continuing to do rallies after next week. If he wins, it’ll be a “victory tour” with him going out to thank the peons while promising them that he’ll spend the next 4 years going after all of his political enemies. And if he loses, it will be (as you said) “resentment tour” about his bashing all those he feels cost him the election, swearing retribution upon them, and promising he’ll do everything in his power to ensure his influence remains even if they force him out in a “coup.”

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:37:12pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

Realistically, no matter who wins Tuesday, Trump is gonna spend time in the next months going after everybody who (we were told) was safe from his wrath. If he wins, it will be about him going after those he’s felt “disloyal” to him but couldn’t afford to fire before the election. And if he loses, it will be about going after those he feels hampered his campaign and did not carry out the orders he felt would have led to his victory.

I strongly suspect that if Trump loses, he’s gonna go all scorched earth. I wouldn’t be surprised if his supporters started saying, “AMERICA MUST BE DESTROYED!!” despite their claims of patriotism.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:42:46pm

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

I strongly suspect that if Trump loses, he’s gonna go all scorched earth. I wouldn’t be surprised if his supporters started saying, “AMERICA MUST BE DESTROYED!!” despite their claims of patriotism.

I really do worry about him fueling a possible civil war. He’s not going to take defeat or victory well. I just hope there are indictmentsvwith his name waiting to be handed to him and his family from NY so there can be no way Barr can actively obstruct. We need to heal and the best way to do that is if he’s not stirring up his followers.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:46:17pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:46:59pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Yeah, that was another thing on my mind the other day, that Donny is gonna insist upon continuing to do rallies after next week. If he wins, it’ll be a “victory tour” with him going out to thank the peons while promising them that he’ll spend the next 4 years going after all of his political enemies. And if he loses, it will be (as you said) “resentment tour” about his bashing all those he feels cost him the election, swearing retribution upon them, and promising he’ll do everything in his power to ensure his influence remains even if they force him out in a “coup.”

It’s gonna be a mess. I’ve never worried about a transition. Yeah I didn’t like Bush but I knew he would assist Obama in the transition. His wife and daughters did the same for Michelle and the girls so if people wonder why Michelle doesn’t despise W that’s probably why. There was a lot the Bush administration was horrible at but handing the reigns to Obama’s team wasn’t one of those things. Trump’s transition I worry about given the cronyism in Trump’s inner circle.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:56:08pm

In memory of Mr. C.

Here’s a parody that made my grandma laugh so hard she almost fell off the couch!

james tont Eurospy english language.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2020 • 10:56:10pm

re: #58 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s gonna be a mess. I’ve never worried about a transition. Yeah I didn’t like Bush but I knew he would assist Obama in the transition. His wife and daughters did the same for Michelle and the girls so if people wonder why Michelle doesn’t despise W that’s probably why. There was a lot the Bush administration was horrible at but handing the reigns to Obama’s team wasn’t one of those things. Trump’s transition I worry about given the cronyism in Trump’s inner circle.

If Trump loses (knock on wood) his inner circle of cronies is going to be shredding documents and destroying hard drives nonstop between November 4 and Inauguration Day.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:00:43pm

re: #58 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s gonna be a mess. I’ve never worried about a transition. Yeah I didn’t like Bush but I knew he would assist Obama in the transition. His wife and daughters did the same for Michelle and the girls so if people wonder why Michelle doesn’t despise W that’s probably why. There was a lot the Bush administration was horrible at but handing the reigns to Obama’s team wasn’t one of those things. Trump’s transition I worry about given the cronyism in Trump’s inner circle.

There was an article I read earlier today where it said that WH staff and “insiders” are dreading next week and already preparing for a Biden win. How? By working in any way they can to sabotage the man before he takes office, such as working to create ways to prevent him from undoing the damage done on the foreign policy front.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:11:31pm

3 days.
This reminds me, oddly enough, of being “short” in Vietnam, ie having fewer and fewer days left on my tour and not wanting to buy the farm on, or near the final day. You get wary, nervous and even superstitious (on the grounds that it couldn’t hurt). The rotational system, when you knew the date you would be leaving the entire time you were there, was something new in warfare, and had an endlessly corrosive effect on morale in general. During World War II, for example, soldiers did not know when they would go home and but they did know that it depended to a great extent on the progress of the war. In Vietnam, we had people rotate out, just up and leave, right in the middle of the siege of An Loc, one of the most desperate battles of the war. Sometimes there were short extensions, but not often. Sometimes people left early, as I eventually did, because their units were withdrawn.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:21:30pm

re: #61 Targetpractice

There was an article I read earlier today where it said that WH staff and “insiders” are dreading next week and already preparing for a Biden win. How? By working in any way they can to sabotage the man before he takes office, such as working to create ways to prevent him from undoing the damage done on the foreign policy front.

Yeah, the Trumpies are going to do their worst to try to monkeywrench an incoming Biden administration. I think McConnell will be doing his own brand of monkeywrenching if the GOP loses the Senate too.

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Targetpractice  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:25:12pm

re: #63 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, the Trumpies are going to do their worst to try to monkeywrench an incoming Biden administration. I think McConnell will be doing his own brand of monkeywrenching if the GOP loses the Senate too.

He’s already pledged to void another long-running Senate “tradition” and keep the Senate voting on judges right up until Schumer finally replaces him in January. It’s just a blatant power grab at this point, the minority party dead-set on ensuring its rule for as long as it can.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:28:50pm

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:31:43pm

Finished phone banking for the day at 930 and decompressing. Still dealing with a slice of folks who see nothing wrong with Trump and a block of callers let their racism flow like the dam was broke especially in Pennsylvania.

Texas was the other side. Lots of friendly and nice people. Lots of them already voted and bunch are taking others to the polls on Tuesday.

Well tomorrow I’ll start bright and early again calling in Texas, Georgia, Ohio and Kansas.

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teleskiguy  Oct 31, 2020 • 11:01:17pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:40:04am

re: #67 teleskiguy

Pleasant music for these unpleasant times.

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ericblair  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:41:17am

A member of US Congress was on the bus that was attacked by presumably armed terrorists. From the thread, it looks like (of course) the terrorists were bragging about this on social media.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:48:47am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:00:36am

Is what’s happening in Poland now a taste of things to come in the US with the advent of the Mad SCOTUS?

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Jack Burton  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:06:43am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:11:44am

Can a President pardon himself for crimes while in office?

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steve_davis  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:12:42am

re: #42 Targetpractice

I don’t like DST because unlike all you daywalkers who get an hour more to sleep, DST means ghouls like myself end up working a 9 hour shift.

I don’t like it because I’m now up at 4 o’clock, feeling like I’ve been asleep forever, and my manual alarm clock says 5, which explains it all. The only useful thing is that it will now be light at 6:30 rather than 7:30, and I actually find that kind of heartening. The fact that it will now be dark at freakin’ 6 in the evening hasn’t sunk in yet.

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steve_davis  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:14:39am

re: #47 Sherlock Hound

The Vox article is really handwavy: it advocates UTC for everything. I use UTC at work—all our network devices are set to that time zone—and at home as well, as a ham radio operator. But it doesn’t follow that everyone can work like that.

People hate DST in New England, though. People have floated the idea of us moving zones to Atlantic Time (+1 hour from Eastern Time) year-round.

yeah, i seem to remember from my time at Breadloaf that the world started to get light at 4:30 or so in the morning. I got the impression somebody really goofed up time zones when it came to Vermont.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:19:30am

re: #73 Nyet

Can a President pardon himself for crimes while in office?

Unknown. To the best of my knowledge, there’s simply no legal precedent for it one way or the other. That being said, I could see Trump doing that as some kind of desperate hail mary play.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:22:06am

re: #64 Targetpractice

He’s already pledged to void another long-running Senate “tradition” and keep the Senate voting on judges right up until Schumer finally replaces him in January. It’s just a blatant power grab at this point, the minority party dead-set on ensuring its rule for as long as it can.

And I do wonder if this is the GOP overplaying a losing hand to the point that it makes it obvious that a Democratic majority will need to go scorched earth in return. Filibuster gone. Court expansion and realignment to restore balance, etc. etc.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:27:55am

re: #72 Jack Burton

I think this came up here a while ago, when he just came out.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:30:19am

‘Morning. What time is it?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:46:20am

re: #9 teleskiguy

Just every indication is Biden will win, & probably win big. But we need to do everything possible to help him win by such a big margin that Trump & the Repubs can’t steal the election

It has to be clear by the end of the day on Tuesday or Trump will drag this out until it winds up in front of his compliant SCOTUS

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 1:54:33am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just every indication is Biden will win, & probably win big. But we need to do everything possible to help him win by such a big margin that Trump & the Repubs can’t steal the election

It has to be clear by the end of the day on Tuesday or Trump will drag this out until it winds up in front of his compliant SCOTUS

We need to do a lot more than just shoehorn Biden into the WH. If we don’t crush the GOP across the board, no lessons are learned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 2:03:58am

re: #81 Decatur Deb

We need to do a lot more than just shoehorn Biden into the WH. If we don’t crush the GOP across the board, no lessons are learned.

Even with Dems in control of both houses and the Presidency, it will take years to undo the damage already done.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2020 • 2:51:03am

re: #49 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

I wonder if Biden has talked to Fauci. Dunno if they know each other or not.

Of course they do.

Biden was on the foreign relations committee during SARS, then VP during H1N1 and ebola.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:31:30am
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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:37:13am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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A scenario to turn your shit white: The thought of what these domestic terrorists are gonna do when their leader fails to win another term and decides that he’s willing to use the powers of the federal government to give them cover for as long as he continues to wield it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:40:14am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:45:47am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

his face needs some […]

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:46:23am

hi

Regional news: Covid-19 is entirely out of control in the Nebraska Panhandle.
Panhandle Public Health District Dashboard

There were 140 new cases October 29, breaking the previous record set October 23 of 107. October 26 was revised upward to 104. October 30 has 76 new cases.

The same three villages have never had a case (mine, Lisco, and Llewellyn).

Almost two-thirds of all cases have been since October 1; the first case was April 1.

I put a question to the village board about what sort of plans they intend to impose (if any) for the epidemic, including photocopies of the Broadwater, Nebr. News from 1918 showing the frankly draconian measures the village board imposed during the 1918 epidemic.

Then, the village sealed itself off entirely (no traffic could stop in town, backed by the town marshal and a posse), no crowds larger than two people unless a family, only two people were allowed in stores at a time (orders were placed by telephone and put on the sidewalk or delivered), the Isis Theatre and restaurants were closed, the library was closed, masks were mandatory in all spaces outside your home, the school was closed. (This was a somewhat bigger village then.)

In the 1918 epidemic, several nurses from the Colorado Springs TB sanitarium came to assist the town doctor. A handful of people came down with the flu and were immediately quarantined by the doctor and nurses until they recovered. Two died.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:48:14am

I am still anxious. Trump is showing signs of desperation and I do not doubt that he will resort to extreme measures to try and save his ass, cost what they may.

And he clearly enjoys the support of armed terror groups, police forces and other criminal organizations.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 3:58:44am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:02:08am

re: #84 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:10:45am

This ongoing thread is one to be read.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:15:14am

The effing president of the united States (well, parts if it)

And the texas GOP chair

Oh yes such fine fine people
Not deplorable at all.
Trump included

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Ming5000  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:15:28am

Just donated to the ACLU. First time ever.
There is too much at stake.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:15:45am

re: #85 Targetpractice

A scenario to turn your shit white: The thought of what these domestic terrorists are gonna do when their leader fails to win another term and decides that he’s willing to use the powers of the federal government to give them cover for as long as he continues to wield it.

When he loses, they have much less to gain and greatly increased risk. Most will shut up, some will claim they were unsung resistance heroes.

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William Lewis  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:21:17am

re: #95 Decatur Deb

When he loses, they have much less to gain and greatly increased risk. Most will shut up, some will claim they were unsung resistance heroes.

There were more members of the French Resistance in 1960 than ever were in 1944…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:21:32am

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This ongoing thread is one to be read.

Especially all the crazy wingnuts in the thread.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:23:17am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:23:23am

re: #96 William Lewis

There were more members of the French Resistance in 1960 than ever were in 1944…

In 2040, people cleaning up Granpa’s estate will be surprised at the trinkets in the bottom drawer.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:24:40am

re: #32 Barefoot Grin

“Dude, your mom uses pleated sandwich bags?”

Baggies alligator

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:28:36am

re: #100 dangerman

Baggies alligator

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Young Wife was so naive when she got to NYC that she thought a nickel bag cost a nickel.

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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:30:12am

Good morning!

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:34:54am

re: #72 Jack Burton

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How’d that work out for us Miles?

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:35:09am

re: #73 Nyet

Can a President pardon himself for crimes while in office?

Asking for a nation?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:37:12am

The NE-2 race has become the most expensive House race in history. Massive donations have poured into Kara Eastman’s (D) campaign from small donors across the country. She has raised and spent far more money than Rep. Don Bacon (R), who’s donations primarily come from groups such as Americans for Prosperity and ALEC. (Gov. Pete Ricketts founded the Nebraska ALEC chapter.)

Aside from direct donations from the Democratic Party, the only PACs Kara Eastman’s campaign has accepted are from Meidicare for All PAC, the Congressional Progressive Caucus PAC, and the Justice Democrats.

Recent Federal Election Commission reports show that the Bacon campaign had spent about $2.7 million by mid-October, compared with about $3.7 million by Eastman’s campaign.

That’s an increase of more than a million bucks from what the two campaigns laid out last time.

But the bigger bump is in spending by outside groups, which have tossed in more than $13 million thus far. That compares with about $2.5 million in outside spending in 2018.

and

Consider that Eastman raised significantly more money in the third quarter of this cycle than Bacon, fueled in part by donors from outside Nebraska, in places such as New York and California.

Eastman has criticized Bacon for accepting donations from corporate political action committees and groups that do not disclose their donors.

As cash keeps flowing in, campaign spending in Nebraska’s 2nd District more than doubles last cycle (Omaha World-Herald)

Meanwhile in Nebraska oligarchy:

Ricketts family spends nearly $1 million this election cycle (OWH)

LINCOLN — Led by Gov. Pete Ricketts, his family — the owners of the Chicago Cubs and the former owners of TD Ameritrade — has spent nearly $1 million so far this election cycle to elect conservative state lawmakers and fend off approval of casino gambling in Nebraska.

The Republican governor had donated more than $138,000 directly to state legislative candidates through Oct. 19, according to state campaign reports, and has contributed $240,000 over the past two years to the Nebraska Republican Party, which has spent heavily in legislative races.

Ricketts recently provided $350,000 toward defeating a trio of measures on the November ballot to allow casino games at state thoroughbred racetracks.

If you add the $200,000 provided by his parents, Joe and Marlene Ricketts, to the state GOP this summer, you arrive at $928,000 — and that was with two weeks left until the voting on Tuesday.

Ricketts argues it’s unfair to characterise his spending as anything other than exercising his free speech.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:37:47am

re: #80 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Just every indication is Biden will win, & probably win big. But we need to do everything possible to help him win by such a big margin that Trump & the Repubs can’t steal the election

It has to be clear by the end of the day on Tuesday or Trump will drag this out until it winds up in front of his compliant SCOTUS

It will be clear the same time it’s always been clear
When the states say so
He will try to get it to scotus anyway. It won’t matter.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:51:49am

Doug Jones’ campaign released this bit of traffic from a text volunteer.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:56:06am
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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:57:20am

The question is, whether this the “youth vote” or whatever; or whether this is the protofascist cult vote energized by Trump.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:57:33am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

If Trump loses (knock on wood) his inner circle of cronies is going to be shredding documents and destroying hard drives nonstop between November 4 and Inauguration Day.

I’ve already stated we are going to see actual smoke and flames from department buildings in DC when Trump loses. Our main hope right now concerns employees with a shred of decency left making thumb drive copies of everything they can.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:58:34am

CNN reports that “Dr” Scott Atlas, Trump’s herd immunity guru, gave an extended interview to Russian propaganda network RT, and that interview appears to have been done from the grounds of the White House.

U.S. intelligence agencies have repeatedly labeled RT as an instrument of GRU interference in our electoral system. In other words, it’s just another Sunday in TrumpWorld™.

However, if he’s preaching herd immunity to the Russians……we should be all for it?!!….. Dump the masks! Social distancing is for capitalists! Hugs and kisses all around.

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:59:37am

re: #111 dangerman

However, if he’s preaching herd immunity to the Russians……we should be all for it?!!….. Dump the masks! Social distancing is for capitalists! Hugs and kisses all around.

Ehm. How so?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 4:59:46am

re: #103 dangerman

How’d that work out for us Miles?

No points for blowing the whistle on criminality after you left the criminal’s employ.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:04:35am

re: #113 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

No points for blowing the whistle on criminality after you left the criminal’s employ.

None. He did say he realizes we should never forgive him (to which I responded, don’t worry no one ever will) so he’s cognizant that he’s a total douchebag, one who hopefully will never be allowed back into polite society.

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Nojay UK  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:07:33am

re: #111 dangerman

However, if he’s preaching herd immunity to the Russians……we should be all for it?!!….. Dump the masks! Social distancing is for capitalists! Hugs and kisses all around.

Disease doesn’t work like that. If Russia is a big reservoir of COVID-19 with lots of people infected then everyone on the planet suffers because, absent a few special cases of island polities like Taiwan and New Zealand which were able to shut the doors and enforce strict sanitary measures from visitors, this easily transmissible disease will get in one way or another and cause reinfections and further outbreaks even if it is brought under temporary control for a time in your locale.

Wishing someone ill in this situation is wishing everyone ill, including yourself. Bummer, isn’t it?

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Nyet  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:10:25am

Wishing that a whole country’s population becomes ill is not fascist how?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:20:08am

re: #116 Nyet

Wishing that a whole country’s population becomes ill is not fascist how?

Old habits…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:20:46am

re: #92 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

This ongoing thread is one to be read.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:21:12am

Latest model runs for Eta are even crazier than the earlier ones (which showed Eta doing a ricochet off of Nicaragua, then again off of Belize, before bounding off of Cuba before hitting southern Florida.)

Currently models show Eta going a bit farther inland into central America, then a remnant low/depression reversing course back into the Caribbean, then northward to Cuba, then a sharp left in the strait between Cuba and Florida, then in the GoM doing a double left-turning loop, then a right-turning loop, then a left turning loop, before being consumed by a cold front.

I doubt that will happen but at this time of year the monsoonal flow in that part of the western hemispere apparently makes for some wildly unpredictable events.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:21:33am

“Herd immunity” had a certain appeal because it seemed to be the least economically damaging, especially to leaders like the UK who were reeling from Brexit chaos, or the US where a heavily-leveraged President was worried that losing his revenue streams and having to default on loans to foreign banks would make him look really bad in an election year…

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:24:39am

re: #2 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We’re almost there. Our marathon is almost at an end. Pheidippes would be proud.

speaking of marathons, the keys100 miles in 10 days ended yesterday and the results are in:

13 runners did the official (and insane)100 miles in 32 hrs or less
the winner did it in 21.5 hours.

236 folks are doing 100 miles in 50 days, that’s ongoing through the 19th or so.

Out of the 74 who ran the 100 in 10, I managed to come in 5th.
Klys came in a scorching 13th!

On an age adjusted basis, I squeak up to 4th overall.
fwiw, Maria, the fastest over 60 year old, bested me by 3 seconds per mile

Yesterday was also the end of the WWF Species Step Challenge.
26th out of 521 in total miles
71/521 in total steps (many people wear their watch all day)

And it marked the end of my unbroken running streak at 204 days.

The next event will be the in person A1A marathon next valentine’s day.
Tomorrow begins the long, slow, focused climb to 26.2 honed readiness.

Following a program with rest days and cross training days is paramount.
So today was a long overdue and well earned sleep late / day off.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:24:43am

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

… This association is the Rosetta Stone of anti-science in general. I use the term “Big Woo” for the industry behind this. In particular, almost every conspiracy theorist seems to have a line of supplements or other quack products.

There is a great deal of overlap (as with anti-vaxxers) between moonbats who distrust Big Pharma and and Western Medicine on the one hand, and wingnuts who distrust Big Government and Modern Science on the other.

It leads to a dangerous critical mass of derpitude that is powerful enough to get people killed.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:26:24am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:27:46am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is a great deal of overlap (as with anti-vaxxers) between moonbats who distrust Big Pharma and and Western Medicine on the one hand, and wingnuts who distrust Big Government and Modern Science on the other.

It leads to a dangerous critical mass of derpitude that is powerful enough to get people killed.

That’s why preventing the next Trump starts in Pre-K, earlier if you’re looking for a basic ethical revival.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:31:35am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

That’s why preventing the next Trump starts in Pre-K, earlier if you’re looking for a basic ethical revival.

We were taught civics in Social Studies, and the scientific and historical methods in our science and history classes. We were taught about literary genres and interpreting texts in English class. These are all things that have been abandoned and glossed over.

Heck, I remember that our 6th-grade history class devoted an entire semester to South American history. I am still grateful for that, I even know the difference between Paraguay and Uruguay!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:32:04am

re: #116 Nyet

Wishing that a whole country’s population becomes ill is not fascist how?

Pretty much the same when folks say “well I hope those people in those red states get what they deserve.”

In the Nebraska Panhandle, the weekly positivity rate (last reported October 25) was 58.4%. That will go up. Women and girls are still 2/3 of cases.

Statewide, the daily positivity rate (they don’t give weekly) is 11.1%, rising steadily since September 5, when it was 7%. Women and girls statewide are 43% of cases.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:36:40am

re: #116 Nyet

Wishing that a whole country’s population becomes ill is not fascist how?

Don’t forget to blame Donald Trump.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:39:35am

the second letter in today’s mailbag at electoral-vote.com is…comforting

N.G. in Agoura Hills, CA, writes: With 90 million votes already banked and 150+ million total votes now a very real possibility, perhaps it’s time for nervous Democrats to stop freaking out about each and every polling dip from now until Election Day and focus instead on the daunting mathematical reality facing the president: Trump needs to significantly increase his number of total votes from four years ago to have even a snowball’s chance of re-election.

In 2016, Trump won some 63 out of 134 million total votes, for around 47% of the vote. That same number in a hypothetical 150 million vote scenario would only bring him to 42% this time around. Both polls and anecdotal evidence suggest that Trump has lost a small, but not insignificant, number of his 2016 voters. At the same time, he’s made very little effort to expand upon the coalition of voters that brought him to power. He may still reach 63 million and maybe even increase that number to 65 million if he’s picked up some new converts along the way, but I have a difficult time seeing how he can get to much more than that.

Put another way, Trump would need 70+ million votes to equal the 47% he managed in 2016 if 150 million people do indeed wind up voting. That still might not be enough in 2020 but it at least puts him back in “drawing to an inside straight” territory. Unless a credible case can be made showing where those additional 7+ million votes might be found, I’d submit that Trump’s re-election is a virtual impossibility. This little exercise in number crunching may not be enough to calm the fears of the “b-b-b-but 2016” crowd but it has helped me sleep better at night.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:42:31am

re: #128 dangerman

the second letter in today’s mailbag at electoral-vote.com is…comforting

Here’s the thing: We all know, or at least suspect, that this is not 2016. However, the way that 2016 happened - and knowing how bad the damage is now, and how much worse it will be if he gets four more years - has us continuing to run in panic mode, just to make absolutely certain that it doesn’t happen again.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:43:26am

I know that Trump’s actions might not be enough to cause his supporters to go out and vote blue, but it might be enough to suppress their turnout at this point.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:43:52am
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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:44:17am

re: #112 Nyet

Ehm. How so?

re: #115 Nojay UK

re: #116 Nyet

that’s why the qeustion mark, though as usual i forget the snark tags

and that was kind of my point - it was from the white house - so is this an ‘official’ event / US policy?

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:45:45am

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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virtually unregulated
easy to sell
and a ready, willing, in fact eager, market

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:47:54am
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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:48:17am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Herd immunity” had a certain appeal because it seemed to be the least economically damaging, especially to leaders like the UK who were reeling from Brexit chaos, or the US where a heavily-leveraged President was worried that losing his revenue streams and having to default on loans to foreign banks would make him look really bad in an election year…

it is also the easiest to implement
no strategy required
nothing to ‘do’
no rigor, no thought, no benchmarks - whatever happens, by definition, was meant to happen. it can’t fail.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:50:07am

re: #133 dangerman

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easy to sell
and a ready, willing, in fact eager, market

To play devils advocate you could argue that it’s big Pharma attacking remedies that already exist, like aspirin. Aspirin also works as birth control/////

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:51:17am

re: #133 dangerman

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easy to sell
and a ready, willing, in fact eager, market

It fits the RW’s predatory outlook. The fundamental difference between L and R is that lefties see humans as potential allies, while righties see them as prey.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:52:31am

re: #134 Patricia Kayden

With coronavirus exploding in Europe, hospitals calculate how long until they hit capacity

Germans are already showing up and reserving ICU beds with their beach towels…

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:52:47am

re: #136 Shropshire Slasher

To play devils advocate you could argue that it’s big Pharma attacking remedies that already exist, like aspirin. Aspirin also works as birth control/////

sure, if you hold the bottle firmly between your knees //

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:53:07am

re: #129 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Here’s the thing: We all know, or at least suspect, that this is not 2016. However, the way that 2016 happened - and knowing how bad the damage is now, and how much worse it will be if he gets four more years - has us continuing to run in panic mode, just to make absolutely certain that it doesn’t happen again.

Reassuring news out of Pennsylvania today. Two A+ rated pollsters have Biden at +6 and +7.

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:53:11am

re: #128 dangerman

the second letter in today’s mailbag at electoral-vote.com is…comforting

That letter uses the wrong metric. Nobody thinks Republicans will get a majority of the votes. There will be millions more votes for Democrats across the country. The problem is that most of those votes won’t count.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:53:58am

re: #124 Decatur Deb

That’s why preventing the next Trump starts in Pre-K, earlier if you’re looking for a basic ethical revival.

My SIL was an educator until she retired and she used to teach kindergartners empathy. She brought in a baby and used various techniques to get them to relate better to each other.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:54:20am

re: #141 Renaissance_Man

That letter uses the wrong metric. Nobody thinks Republicans will get a majority of the votes. There will be millions more votes for Democrats across the country. The problem is that most of those votes won’t count.

that is the issue, Trump knows that he has zero chance of winning even a plurality of popular votes and a diminished chance of pulling out an EC win.

That leaves only extralegal methods at his disposal…

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:55:41am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is the issue, Trump knows that he has zero chance of winning even a plurality of popular votes and a diminished chance of pulling out an EC win.

That leaves only extralegal methods at his disposal…

The biggest difference between this year and previous years is that now those methods will be ‘legal’.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:56:03am
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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:56:45am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that is the issue, Trump knows that he has zero chance of winning even a plurality of popular votes and a diminished chance of pulling out an EC win.

That leaves only extralegal methods at his disposal…

We already know his playbook. Actually, a court case out of Minnesota, of all places, was what woke me to it, before the Kavanaugh ruling from last week. The GOP sued the state to keep ballots received after Election Day segregated from ballots received on or before. They didn’t say not to count them; they just wanted them kept and counted separately. It’s clear that their challenge is going to be, DONALD TRUMP WON ON ELECTION DAY, NOTHING ELSE COUNTS!!!

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Decatur Deb  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:57:15am

re: #144 Renaissance_Man

The biggest difference between this year and previous years is that now those methods will be ‘legal’.

6-3.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:57:52am

They’re all thieves.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:58:01am

re: #145 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

GOP politicians see people as costs, not resources.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:58:20am

True story. I’ll eat anything, tell me where to go.

The average couple argues 156 times every year over where to order dinner from, according to new research. The study of 2,000 Americans who’ve ever been in a relationship revealed the typical couple gets in a fight three times a week over just where to eat. Mealtime is such a big deal, that two in five of those polled said a lack of “food compatibility” would be a relationship deal-breaker for them. It takes the average couple 17 minutes of deliberation to finally make a decision where dinner is coming from but 16% will take 30 minutes or more.

yahoo.com

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 5:59:16am

re: #150 Shropshire Slasher

Same. I’ve never had that argument.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:01:35am

re: #146 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

We already know his playbook. Actually, a court case out of Minnesota, of all places, was what woke me to it, before the Kavanaugh ruling from last week. The GOP sued the state to keep ballots received after Election Day segregated from ballots received on or before. They didn’t say not to count them; they just wanted them kept and counted separately. It’s clear that their challenge is going to be, DONALD TRUMP WON ON ELECTION DAY, NOTHING ELSE COUNTS!!!

It won’t work. If Biden wins Pennsylvania by five points, there won’t be enough “late” ballots to disqualify to make up that large a margin. And the courts aren’t going to order counting of timely ballots stopped just because the clock struck midnight. Ballots don’t turn into pumpkins. Plus if plan A works, Biden winning Florida on election day, Pennsylvania won’t matter anymore.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:02:06am

re: #30 Belafon

Watching the video of the truck pushing the SUV away from the Biden bus, and you can tell at the beginning of the video that the SUV is initially closer to the bus than the truck:

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According to the Dallas Morning News, the Trump people are trying to claim that the SUV was swerving all over the place, but it doesn’t look like it. dallasnews.com

They say. But they are also lying sacs of shit, so you have to take that into account.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:02:22am
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:02:38am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:02:45am

re: #144 Renaissance_Man

The biggest difference between this year and previous years is that now those methods will be ‘legal’.

Also in the “millions of votes won’t count” are overwhelming margins in states which normally vote for Democrats, such as California and New York. (The Republican votes in those states don’t really count either.)

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:04:11am

re: #150 Shropshire Slasher

True story. I’ll eat anything, tell me where to go.

yahoo.com

My wife gets mad at me because I don’t care. Since I got bariatric surgery, I don’t order meals from restaurants; I just eat her leftovers.

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sagehen  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:04:27am

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Heck, I remember that our 6th-grade history class devoted an entire semester to South American history. I am still grateful for that, I even know the difference between Paraguay and Uruguay!

My social studies class did a deep dive on Russian history, starting with the Rus (about 1200 years ago) up until the Revolution.

It was my junior high Spanish class that got into Central and South America. Before I took that class, I had sort of a general impression that Hispanics were mostly Mexican, but Señora Perez-Pena wouldn’t let that notion stand. We looked at ALL the countries, their history, music/art/traditional clothes/food, etc. Listened to records to hear the accents. Mayans, Incas, Aztecs for the pre-columbian stuff, up through all the politics of the 20th century. (she was Cuban). Argentina is sorta Texas-y, Incas did great things with fabrics and terraced farms, Ecuador is great for seafood, Aztec calendars and clothes made out of feathers, California is Andalusia, etc. And OMG, salsa, tango, rumba, mariachi, merengue, Bossa nova, etc.

Maybe not enough vocabulary lists and verb conjugations, but I think the trade-off was worth it.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:05:21am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It won’t work. If Biden wins Pennsylvania by five points, there won’t be enough “late” ballots to disqualify to make up that large a margin. And the courts aren’t going to order counting of timely ballots stopped just because the clock struck midnight. Ballots don’t turn into pumpkins. Plus if plan A works, Biden winning Florida on election day, Pennsylvania won’t matter anymore.

Oh, I agree that it won’t work. I think he will try to do it on a nationwide scale, but the vast majority of the country will tell him to go fuck himself. The few states it might work in won’t be enough to win him the election.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:06:22am

re: #155 jaunte

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He should be arrested immediately; he’s a menace.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:07:08am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:08:07am

re: #60 Dr Lizardo

If Trump loses (knock on wood) his inner circle of cronies is going to be shredding documents and destroying hard drives nonstop between November 4 and Inauguration Day.

More things to convict them of then.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:11:00am

re: #155 jaunte

And of course he hasn’t been arrested which is true for the rest of thugs who participated in this blatant act of political terrorism.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:12:21am
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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:12:56am

A note on early voting in NYS. AOC recently decried the long lines. What I didn’t know is that during early voting here not all polling places are open. In NYC there are 88 early polling places open and 1,200 on Election Day. In my county there are three early polling places, and today is the last day.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:13:19am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:14:18am
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Renaissance_Man  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:17:03am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It won’t work. If Biden wins Pennsylvania by five points, there won’t be enough “late” ballots to disqualify to make up that large a margin. And the courts aren’t going to order counting of timely ballots stopped just because the clock struck midnight. Ballots don’t turn into pumpkins. Plus if plan A works, Biden winning Florida on election day, Pennsylvania won’t matter anymore.

And when the courts discard votes from the largest counties because they’re somehow unconstitutional? Or go through every ballot from a large city to discard them for any reason at all? Or declare that for some reason, all the ballots from another large Democratic area are somehow tainted, and thus any results should be invalidated? Or if a large bag of fraudulent Democrat votes is somehow ‘found’, and breathlessly reported as a scandal across every news network, thus ‘proving’ that Democrats cheated and the results should be invalidated?

The play isn’t just stop counting votes. It’s the same as it’s been before - stop people from voting in areas that are populated and Democratic, and throw the votes out from those areas when they do come in. That doesn’t have to happen Election Day. It can happen in the weeks afterwards too, and that then gives time for some judge to declare it legal and for the news to cast doubt on any Democratic win.

Again, I think there are many reasons to be optimistic about this year. But I’ll say it again, fascists don’t give up power just because the slaves say so. Trumpism is many things, but at its core is simply doing blatantly corrupt things in the open and declaring, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re accepting bribes and selling the secrets of the US to our enemies, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re giving up controlling a deadly disease and letting people die, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re simply not going to do anything legislative that might help people, and will instead put brown people in concentration camps and steal judicial seats, what are you going to do about it? So the question is, when they simply say, sure, we saw you vote, but none of those votes count and we won, what are you going to do about it?

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:23:58am

re: #167 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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My friend’s daughter is at American University. They’ve been told to get enough food/water like preparing for a 🌀!!!

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:24:38am

“Right now, Abbott and U.S. Sen. John Cornyn are the only leaders holding onto the remnants of the old Republican Party majority, with the old Tea Party crowd determined to tear it apart.”

Let them fight.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:26:06am

re: #170 jaunte

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Let them fight.

I’ll bring the popcorn.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:28:24am

re: #170 jaunte

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Let them fight.

They embraced the Tea Party, now it can destroy them. Still dunno what they were thinking handing the reins of their state party to a guy who served one term in Congress and not from their state but let em destroy each other.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:29:31am

re: #172 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They embraced the Tea Party, now it can destroy them. Still dunno what they were thinking handing the reins of their state party to a guy who served one term in Congress and not from their state but let em destroy each other.

He’s Black and was in the military, they can hold him up as a trophy, like, “No, we don’t hate Black people, the chair of our state party is Black, and a vet to boot.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:31:49am

re: #161 Barefoot Grin

And endless “but what about drone strikes” in that thread.

I despise the ignorance of the horseshoe left and right.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:32:07am

re: #168 Renaissance_Man

And when the courts discard votes from the largest counties because they’re somehow unconstitutional? Or go through every ballot from a large city to discard them for any reason at all? Or declare that for some reason, all the ballots from another large Democratic area are somehow tainted, and thus any results should be invalidated? Or if a large bag of fraudulent Democrat votes is somehow ‘found’, and breathlessly reported as a scandal across every news network, thus ‘proving’ that Democrats cheated and the results should be invalidated?

The play isn’t just stop counting votes. It’s the same as it’s been before - stop people from voting in areas that are populated and Democratic, and throw the votes out from those areas when they do come in. That doesn’t have to happen Election Day. It can happen in the weeks afterwards too, and that then gives time for some judge to declare it legal and for the news to cast doubt on any Democratic win.

Again, I think there are many reasons to be optimistic about this year. But I’ll say it again, fascists don’t give up power just because the slaves say so. Trumpism is many things, but at its core is simply doing blatantly corrupt things in the open and declaring, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re accepting bribes and selling the secrets of the US to our enemies, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re giving up controlling a deadly disease and letting people die, what are you going to do about it? Sure, we’re simply not going to do anything legislative that might help people, and will instead put brown people in concentration camps and steal judicial seats, what are you going to do about it? So the question is, when they simply say, sure, we saw you vote, but none of those votes count and we won, what are you going to do about it?

If the Court tries to rubber stamp a Trump theft of a clear Biden victory, the nation is going to explode. Which is why I think it won’t.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:32:14am
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TarHellion  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:32:17am

re: #108 dangerman

Impressive numbers across the board for NC. Wake and Durham counties, both pivotal for Biden, have reported turnout of nearly 67 percent. Of course, even my redneck paradise in Western NC has reported a 65.5 turnout. And, yes, FFVCS will be making a stop here this evening just a couple miles from my office.

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dangerman  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:32:51am

re: #152 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It won’t work. If Biden wins Pennsylvania by five points, there won’t be enough “late” ballots to disqualify to make up that large a margin. And the courts aren’t going to order counting of timely ballots stopped just because the clock struck midnight. Ballots don’t turn into pumpkins. Plus if plan A works, Biden winning Florida on election day, Pennsylvania won’t matter anymore.

Agreed
As convoluted as it is, state laws determine what gets counted based in when it arrives.
No fed court can stop the initial counting or “declare” ballots ineligible that state law clearly says arrived timely

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:33:30am

re: #170 jaunte

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Let them fight.

Except…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:33:39am

re: #173 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s Black and was in the military, they can hold him up as a trophy, like, “No, we don’t hate Black people, the chair of our state party is Black, and a vet to boot.”

The national GOP did the same with Michael Steele (minus the vet part), and as soon as he was out of that position GOP politicians were openly questioning why they ever hired a Black guy. (The guy who helped deliver a huge number of new Republican seats.)

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:34:19am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

Kaleb Franks of Waterford, a recovering heroin addict who says he has turned his life around after doing time for cocaine and home invasion

If he wasn’t white, Trump would want him put to death.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:34:39am

re: #173 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s Black and was in the military, they can hold him up as a trophy, like, “No, we don’t hate Black people, the chair of our state party is Black, and a vet to boot.”

It does seem that way.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:35:51am

re: #176 Patricia Kayden

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Should have thought about that before you became a domestic terrorist, Jackass.

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A Cranky One  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:38:48am
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b.d.  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:41:57am

re: #172 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

They embraced the Tea Party, now it can destroy them. Still dunno what they were thinking handing the reins of their state party to a guy who served one term in Congress and not from their state but let em destroy each other.

I’m with you on not knowing their long term goal here? Looks like they just don’t have one. Screaming crazy sh*t through bullhorns isn’t a long term winner.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:45:57am

re: #185 b.d.

I’m with you on not knowing their long term goal here? Looks like they just don’t have one. Screaming crazy sh*t through bullhorns isn’t a long term winner.

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He really is nuts. I’m glad he was one and done in Congress.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:46:33am

re: #177 TarHellion

Impressive numbers across the board for NC. Wake and Durham counties, both pivotal for Biden, have reported turnout of nearly 67 percent. Of course, even my redneck paradise in Western NC has reported a 65.5 turnout. And, yes, FFVCS will be making a stop here this evening just a couple miles from my office.

Shutdown and stay safe at home if you can, the superspreader tour is bringing infection and death.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:48:37am

re: #185 b.d.

I’m with you on not knowing their long term goal here? Looks like they just don’t have one. Screaming crazy sh*t through bullhorns isn’t a long term winner.

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Republicans in disarray!

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TarHellion  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:50:22am

re: #187 NO SMOCKING GUN!

We are concerned that these cultists are going to use our parking lot. I’ll be using a sanitizing wipe when opening any outside doors tomorrow.

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:50:36am

From one of my chiweenie groups…

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HRH Stanley Sea  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:51:24am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:53:53am

re: #189 TarHellion

We are concerned that these cultists are going to use our parking lot. I’ll be using a sanitizing wipe when opening any outside doors tomorrow.

Can your firm cordon off the parking lot?

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 6:56:41am

Of one thing I’m certain: if Trump stays in power and we actually succeed in fascist completion, the Allen Wests, Dan Bonginos, and Sebastian Gorkas will all be flying the helicopters dropping teachers into oceans and forests or manning the rifles in the firing squads. They overtly seethe with the rage driving the rest of the conservative cult.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:03:03am

re: #155 jaunte

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Attempted vehicular homicide for starters.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:04:47am

In Omaha:

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:05:05am

I pimped a video of a friend the other day, I’ll probably post it again through the election. It’s quite the protest song.

“Deflection Blues” by Long Tall Deb, Colin John & Chris Butler

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:05:37am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What is “N”?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:05:44am
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:09:17am

re: #197 Dr Lizardo

Ndependent.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:09:35am

(Non-partisan)

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TarHellion  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:09:42am

re: #192 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Technically it is a public facility, so no much we can really do. Just hope they don’t mess with our organization’s vehicles that are parked there.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:11:59am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:14:36am

Breakfast incoming: My wife is making mild tacos (with ghost peppers and cumin).

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:17:10am

re: #177 TarHellion

Impressive numbers across the board for NC. Wake and Durham counties, both pivotal for Biden, have reported turnout of nearly 67 percent. Of course, even my redneck paradise in Western NC has reported a 65.5 turnout. And, yes, FFVCS will be making a stop here this evening just a couple miles from my office.

What’s the population of each area?

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:18:29am

Just heard from GDF. He’s good, changing things up for some self care. I feel samesies, been doing other stuff to take care of myself. I’m cooking and doing a networking cert to keep busy, trying not to check 538 every 10 minutes. Once an hour is acceptable.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:21:00am

re: #204 Belafon

What’s the population of each area?

Wake County: 1,111,761 (1st)
Durham County: 267,587 (6th)

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:21:07am

I wonder if Harris County is going to open their polling places at midnight on Tuesday?

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garzooma  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:21:07am

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:21:46am

Iowa was a little shocka yesterday but 538 already input that poll and recalibrated the averages. We’re getting to the point where there won’t be many polls left until the one that matters. All that’s left is the longest day.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:22:26am

re: #199 jaunte

Ndependent.

Here in PA the designation is “NF” (not affiliated)

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:26:52am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Wake County: 1,111,761 (1st)
Durham County: 267,587 (6th)

Thanks. What about the area TarHellion lives in? Even a 1% difference between significantly different sized areas could mean a difference in the outcome.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:30:17am

From the October 19 event in Lubbock.
WATCH: Trump Train circles Loop 289 from Cook’s Garage
List of speakers for this yokel super-spreader event:

Pastor Jake Fehr
Cochran County Commissioner Eric Silhan
Mayor Kim Silhan - Morton
Mayor Shannon Thomason - Big Spring
Pastor Steve Friskup
Abraham Enriquez Founder of Bienvenido
Betty Cardenas Chairwoman of the Republican National Hispanic Assembly
Mark Lee Dickson Director of Right to Life of East Texas
Dustin Burrows Texas State Representative
Jackie Schlegel Founder & Executive Director at Texans for Vaccine Choice
Steve Munisteri Senior Advisor to John Cornyn Campaign and Former Republican Party of Texas Chairman
Jodey Arrington United States Congressman
Pastor Carl Toti

Arrington is one of the tools who expressed “concern” about Jade Helm in 2015, and also supported the Texas secession ballot initiative.
“Organizers” claimed that 8000 vehicles participated. That would be one every 45 feet completely around Loop 289, even if they took all three lanes. It looks more like 300 in the video, unless they have a couple of thousand acres of parking that nobody has noticed yet.
Cook’s Garage hosted indicted terrorist rich folks Mark and Patricia McCloskey for a meet ‘n greet a couple of days after this.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:31:44am

re: #151 jaunte

Same. I’ve never had that argument.

Meal time is not a democracy in my house. I cook, they either eat or don’t. Ordering, no one really ever evinces any opinion. Going out, either my wife or I make a reservation and we go, very seldom is there a discussion about sheet we are going.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:32:47am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:32:48am

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JC1  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:34:53am

re: #133 dangerman

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virtually unregulated
easy to sell
and a ready, willing, in fact eager, market

The DSHEA needs to be repealed. With Hatch retiring it might actually happen.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:36:34am
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:38:09am
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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:41:01am
104-year-old Ruth Rosner on casting her vote
New Yorker Ruth Rosner first voted for a president in 1936, casting her ballot for FDR. Last week, on the first day of early voting, correspondent Faith Salie accompanied the 104-year-old to the polls, and her social media posts helped make Rosner a viral star. She talked with Salie about participating in her 22nd presidential election, the importance of voting, and why not even COVID-19 could keep her from making her voice heard.

Watch the video.

cbsnews.com

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:42:55am

I think we know early turnout is driven by COVID, more likely people who take COVID seriously. Election Day turnout will be better for Trump.

It appears we’re going to have high turnout. Will all the new voters be for Biden or Trump?

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:43:41am

re: #85 Targetpractice

A scenario to turn your shit white: The thought of what these domestic terrorists are gonna do when their leader fails to win another term and decides that he’s willing to use the powers of the federal government to give them cover for as long as he continues to wield it.

Or as one of my online friends posted the other day:

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:44:41am

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:45:32am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:46:01am

Glad for the extra hour of sleep. Going to start the last day of phone banking for Joe at 8AM. Concentrating on Texas, Ohio, Georgia and I’m going to see if I can get some Iowa calls in too.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:46:45am

re: #178 dangerman

Agreed
As convoluted as it is, state laws determine what gets counted based in when it arrives.
No fed court can stop the initial counting or “declare” ballots ineligible that state law clearly says arrived timely

Yeah, this is something that keeps getting lost in all the “ZOMG! 6-3!!” The USSC only has so much sway in how states conduct their elections, and can choose not to take cases just as readily. Plus it has no real enforcement mechanism, which means if a state gov’t gets told “Stop counting ballots” by Trump’s stooges, that gov’t can flip them off and keep counting. The state is the arbitrator of which votes will be considered valid, not six “tyrants in black robes” as one wingnut asshole once dubbed them.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:48:20am
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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:50:18am

re: #102 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:53:05am

re: #221 mmmirele

Or as one of my online friends posted the other day:

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If the world is over, what would moving to another country do? Also that last part is a bit of a red flag to me.

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:53:29am

COVID Voter

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:56:18am

re: #223 Patricia Kayden

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:57:36am

re: #226 DodgerFan1988

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For the same reason that generations were okay with men being lynched in the South: It maintains their control, it keeps those they hate “in line,” and it ensures that the people who represent them are as white as they are.

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ericblair  Nov 1, 2020 • 7:58:57am

re: #224 🌹UOJB!

Glad for the extra hour of sleep. Going to start the last day of phone banking for Joe at 8AM. Concentrating on Texas, Ohio, Georgia and I’m going to see if I can get some Iowa calls in too.

Thanks, Joe, you’re doing a lotta good work there.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:00:17am
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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:02:21am

Shithead got some bad polling on the black vote.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:03:00am

re: #224 🌹UOJB!

Glad for the extra hour of sleep.

Sadly, for me, I got paged into a Severity 1 ticket because our core platform wasn’t up. Turns out that swapping to new CPUs during a time-change, which would have given them an hour leeway, didn’t quite worked out as planned.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:03:00am

re: #233 Citizen K

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I guess this means Trump better hope that he’s ahead when midnight rolls around.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:03:13am

re: #231 Targetpractice

For the same reason that generations were okay with men being lynched in the South: It maintains their control, it keeps those they hate “in line,” and it ensures that the people who represent them are as white as they are.

His fans are trying to be nice, but they’re essentially saying that.

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:03:29am

The right is operating on a false pretense they’ve concocted: all votes ‘must’ be counted on Nov 3rd or they’re invalid because of the threat of vote fraud.

This is fraud.

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:03:40am

Meme time:

Yellow/Black is the ball color for anarchocapitalists.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:05:02am

re: #238 BigPapa

The right is operating on a false pretense they’ve concocted: all votes ‘must’ be counted on Nov 3rd or they’re invalid because of the threat of vote fraud.

This is fraud.

No election in history has ever counted all the votes on Election Night. They’re basing it on a false pretense of the major media networks “calling” states on Election Night, conflating this with the final official election results, which don’t come out until weeks later.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:07:26am

re: #175 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If the Court tries to rubber stamp a Trump theft of a clear Biden victory, the nation is going to explode. Which is why I think it won’t.

Also too, neither Gorsucks nor Weepy-Rapey have voted in lockstep with DT.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:07:35am

Again, Republican desperation is almost palpable. It is far beyond simple anxiety over the loss of power. Thousands of them will be implicated in treason and crimes against humanity. This will be the scandal of the century when it breaks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:07:37am

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:07:38am

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sadly, for me, I got paged into a Severity 1 ticket because our core platform wasn’t up. Turns out that swapping to new CPUs during a time-change, which would have given them an hour leeway, didn’t quite worked out as planned.

My on-call coworker has already been paged 4 times this weekend, all of them for things that aren’t his responsibility. Tomorrow morning is going to be fun…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:08:29am

re: #241 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Also too, neither Gorsucks nor Weepy-Rapey have voted in lockstep with DT.

They have lifetime appointments I.e absolutely nothing to lose by voting against his wishes.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:08:36am

re: #243 Eclectic Cyborg

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Well, I mean, he isn’t wrong. It’s just not going to happen the way he thinks.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:09:23am

re: #236 Targetpractice

I guess this means Trump better hope that he’s ahead when midnight rolls around.

Trust me, if Biden is ahead by midnight on the 3rd, Trump’s sycophants will do a U-turn and argue that all ballots should be counted and doing otherwise is stealing the election.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:09:29am
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Patricia Kayden  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:10:55am

re: #248 Belafon

Great suggestion. I don’t even like it when MSNBC shows constantly show clips of him running his mouth. I don’t need to hear his voice. Enough.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:11:49am

Binging on The Queen’s Gambit right now with Mrs. Fish. I love chess, I used to play it as a teenager, and often wondered if I could have made grandmaster if I had kept at it. Probably not, but I can dream.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:12:14am

re: #240 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No election in history has ever counted all the votes on Election Night. They’re basing it on a false pretense of the major media networks “calling” states on Election Night, conflating this with the final official election results, which don’t come out until weeks later.

And that is why their plans to go through the courts are ultimately going to fail. State courts are going to laugh in their faces when they try to file suit demanding the counting be halted, and attempts to appeal through the federal courts will be met with the same level of amusement. Even assuming it reaches the USSC bench, who wants to be the one who steps up and installs a dictator while shredding the Constitution?

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:13:00am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:14:02am

A covid test that works….

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retired cynic  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:16:20am

Trump didn’t build his border wall with steel.
He built it out of paper. By Catherine Rampell

Americans may assume that most of what Trump has done, at least in the field of immigration, can be undone by Joe Biden, should he be elected. But immigration analysts, lawyers and federal officials warn that the country’s immigration infrastructure will remain crippled long after Trump leaves office. Numbers of newcomers may be depressed for years, if not longer, diminishing the country’s economic growth, global influence and cherished role as a beacon of freedom and opportunity.

This is likely to be true even if the next president tries to roll back, one by one, every single action Trump has taken.

Deep dive, and why it won’t be easy to fix.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:17:51am

re: #220 BigPapa

I think we know early turnout is driven by COVID, more likely people who take COVID seriously. Election Day turnout will be better for Trump.

It appears we’re going to have high turnout. Will all the new voters be for Biden or Trump?

Also by vote-by-mail anxiety and anger about attempts (or the possibility of attempts) at voter suppression. At this point, I have no idea what will happen on election day.

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:19:48am

re: #252 (((Archangel1)))

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:19:58am

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sadly, for me, I got paged into a Severity 1 ticket because our core platform wasn’t up. Turns out that swapping to new CPUs during a time-change, which would have given them an hour leeway, didn’t quite worked out as planned.

Been there before, sending a hug!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:20:19am
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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:20:21am
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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:21:29am

re: #255 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Also by vote-by-mail anxiety and anger about attempts (or the possibility of attempts) at voter suppression. At this point, I have no idea what will happen on election day.

Yup. I’m pretty sure ‘something’ is going to happen. Just not sure how big it will be, and if it will be enough to offset the cheating and subversion.

The fact that’s he’s *only* polling -10 right now despite all that’s happened is extremely stressful.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:21:59am

re: #255 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Also by vote-by-mail anxiety and anger about attempts (or the possibility of attempts) at voter suppression. At this point, I have no idea what will happen on election day.

My best advice: Ignore exit polls or at least take them with a massive grain of salt. There have been polls and surveys in recent weeks showing that Republicans are largely waiting until Tuesday to vote in-person, driven by Hair Furor’s screaming about how mail ballots are rife with “fraud” and only in-person ballots count. So expect exit polls on Tuesday evening to be heavily slanted to Repub voters and expect the MAGAt press to insist this shows that A) Donny is headed towards a landslide and B) any vote totals that go Biden’s direction are proof of “fraud.”

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:22:34am

Purell - check
Cloth Mask - check
Cap/Shield - check
Spray Disinfectant - check
Power Strip w/long cord - check
Election Rules Book - check
4 pairs of Latex Gloves - check
I think I have the stuff I need for Election Day.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:23:54am

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Kilroy was here  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:24:15am

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:24:44am

re: #262 PhillyPretzel

Purell - check
Cloth Mask - check
Cap/Shield - check
Spray Disinfectant - check
Power Strip w/long cord - check
Election Rules Book - check
4 pairs of Latex Gloves - check
I think I have the stuff I need for Election Day.

Did you forget the taser and pepper spray in case people don’t want to observe social distancing?

//

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:25:16am

Foreign influence in the Republican Party is nothing new.
In 1940, Ulrich von Gienanth, nominally second secretary at the German embassy but actually the head of the Gestapo in the US, advised his agents that they could best support the Reich by joining the Republican dominated America First Committee.
For many years after the 1949 communist take-over, US China policy was a complete trainwreck because of the influence of the (Taiwan/missionary) China Lobby, a virtually 100% Republican phenomenon and a pillar of such groups as the John Birch Society (named for China missionary John Birch).
During the 1968 campaign, the China Lobby (in the person of Nationalist luminary Anna Chennault) was the go-between in Nixon’s treasonous deal to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks.
The lobby’s influence only declined when Nixon had the guts to defy them and reach out to the Chicoms, a move that reversed the balance in the Cold War and, arguably, hastened the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Trump is actually a late arrival in the Russian tool-box. Russian influence was pervasive in the GOP at least from the beginning of the Obama administration. This is seen in the effort to legitimize the absurd Texas and California secession movements (2014), and the massively successful Jade Helm conspiracy claim of 2015.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:25:23am

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:26:18am

re: #265 Targetpractice

As for distancing we will have Plexiglas shields as per the Voting Commission.

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:26:57am

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Nojay UK  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:28:08am

re: #235 Eric The Fruit Bat

Sadly, for me, I got paged into a Severity 1 ticket because our core platform wasn’t up. Turns out that swapping to new CPUs during a time-change, which would have given them an hour leeway, didn’t quite worked out as planned.

The Iron Law of Sysadminning is “change one thing at a time”. Reset the clock and only once that’s been successfully achieved and tested do you change anything else, including your underwear.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:28:53am

re: #250 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Binging on The Queen’s Gambit right now with Mrs. Fish. I love chess, I used to play it as a teenager, and often wondered if I could have made grandmaster if I had kept at it. Probably not, but I can dream.

I used to be pretty good at chess until RA and Type 2 slowed me down. Sad that computers have taken all the fun out of it.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:29:47am
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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:30:11am

re: #260 BigPapa

Yup. I’m pretty sure ‘something’ is going to happen. Just not sure how big it will be, and if it will be enough to offset the cheating and subversion.

The fact that’s he’s *only* polling -10 right now despite all that’s happened is extremely stressful.

Something to help with the stress: At 2 days before Election Day in ‘16, Hillary’s lead in the national polls (avg. 3.5%) was 3 times smaller.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:30:38am

re: #211 Belafon

Thanks. What about the area TarHellion lives in? Even a 1% difference between significantly different sized areas could mean a difference in the outcome.

I’m not sure where TarHellion lives.

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:31:50am

re: #270 Nojay UK

The Iron Law of Sysadminning is “change one thing at a time”. Reset the clock and only once that’s been successfully achieved and tested do you change anything else, including your underwear.

F that safety BS. Firmware Update Fridays are best after you start drinking at lunch.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:32:08am

re: #260 BigPapa

The wild card this election and Trump’s Ace on the hole is a 6-3 Supreme Court with no reservations about handing victory to a Trump dictatorship if at all possible. I have been reading up on subjects like this article:

google.com

If we now include the USA as a current Hybrid Regime authoritarian regime the net economic dominance of such countries dwarfs Western Democracies. This may be the last objective free and fair election in the USA for the next 20 years at least.

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:32:29am

re: #260 BigPapa

Yup. I’m pretty sure ‘something’ is going to happen. Just not sure how big it will be, and if it will be enough to offset the cheating and subversion.

The fact that’s he’s *only* polling -10 right now despite all that’s happened is extremely stressful.

Even in the times we live in, there’s a solid block of people who pay no attention of any sort to current events that don’t happen under their noses. Some of them working multiple jobs while raising kids, some of them just aren’t interested. I’m thinking that they represent at last half of the locked-in vote (both D and R). And certainly there’s a fair number of people who only absorb what they want to hear of the news.

We have to keep reminding ourselves that the online world doesn’t really reflect what’s out there, particularly in many deep red states where the internet is practically nonexistent.

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Jay C  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:33:31am

re: #254 retired cynic

Americans may assume that most of what Trump has done, at least in the field of immigration, can be undone by Joe Biden, should he be elected. But immigration analysts, lawyers and federal officials warn that the country’s immigration infrastructure will remain crippled long after Trump leaves office. Numbers of newcomers may be depressed for years, if not longer, diminishing the country’s economic growth, global influence and cherished role as a beacon of freedom and opportunity.

True, most likely, but - to the mindset of the “average Trump supporter” (sic) - the bolded bit is probably going to be seen as an unmitigated positive: Trump’s (and, lately, Republicans’ in general) principal appeal on “immigration issues” is - and always has been - prejudiced xenophobic “nativism”: dealing with “newcomers” by basically/immediately slamming the immigration door shut (and fuck anyone whose fingers get caught in it); violently agitate against “illegals” to give a “law and order” color to their prejudices, and push incessantly for policies designed to make absolutely sure that “economic growth”, “global influence” and “freedom of opportunity” are permanently reserved for “Real Americans” already here. Who they assume, of course, will all be *themselves* (White Wingnut Republicans).

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:33:42am

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:33:57am

re: #263 The Pie Overlord!

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Happy Birthday fella! Many more to come!

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NetworkKed  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:35:44am

Hmm.

538 is up a tick this morning - remember that the link to the forcast on the front page is itself a histogram of the most recent model run, except instead of 100 dots, it has about 400 (18x22, WHY???) dots so each one is about a quarter percent. And it has one more blue dot than last night, so things are moving in a normal direction (we should see one or two change per day because of the uncertainty draining out of the model as time runs out) this morning.

There’s a big dump of good polling from last night and this morning, and nothing jumps out. Biden has ticked up a bit nationally and in one or two states - I’d say MI is waaaay out of reach now, FL is maybe a bit tighter, and PA is right at that 5-7 point range despite the fearmongering I woke up to on CNN this morning.

CNN was really woke for a few weeks starting from the first debate, but they’ve slid back into really gross horserace hyping in the last few days. They have utterly failed in describing threats to the election, though MSNBC hasn’t done much better, not even Maddow.

I would note that pretty much every prez election I remember has had some kind of surprise dump about something nasty - true or not - in the last weekend, and I’m not seeing it this year. It’s disconcerting.

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TarHellion  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:38:35am

re: #274 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I am in the NC Foothills between Charlotte, Asheville and Boone. Alexander, Burke, Caldwell and Catawba counties. Typically Republican, with the exception of the Hickory enclave. The population has not changed much in the past 10 years, let alone the last 4. My county (Caldwell) is almost to its overall vote total of 4 years ago (35 thousand and change thus far versus a little over 36 thousand overall 4 years ago). Burke has a similar number of voters, and Alexander less than half that. Catawba has the biggest number at about 111,000.

Meanwhile, Wake, Orange, Durham, Mecklenburg, Guilford, Forsyth and New Hanover are the population centers. These are the areas where Biden should run up big margins.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:41:57am

re: #276 Florida Panhandler

This may be the last objective free and fair election in the USA for the next 20 years at least.

You underestimate the willingness of many Americans on the left as on the right to resort to violence when they feel they have no other choice.
A 6-3 decision to undo voter rights and invalidate the constitutional will of many millions in order to foist another Darth Orange term means that those 6 will end up spending the rest of their lives fearing for their very existence every living moment. The same goes for a bunch of powerful but nonetheless mortal others leading in the subsequent dictatorship.

This is not in any way my calling out for violence, but pointing out that in a nation where access to dangerous weapons is ridiculously easy, the potential for violence is ridiculously high.
None of them are stupid enough to not be aware of that.
And I don’t think any of them want to die a martyr for the cause.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:42:38am

re: #281 NetworkKed

I would note that pretty much every prez election I remember has had some kind of surprise dump about something nasty - true or not - in the last weekend, and I’m not seeing it this year. It’s disconcerting.

They really tried with “Hunter’s Laptop”, but that kind of fizzled out (although it did result in Tucker Carlson utterly beclowning himself).

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:45:30am

There was more than one Hunter’s Laptop. Why not try? It only took one laptop last election, might as well try 2 or 3 this time.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:46:05am
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Jay C  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:48:16am

re: #284 Ace-o-aces

They really tried with “Hunter’s Laptop”, but that kind of fizzled out (although it did result in Tucker Carlson utterly beclowning himself).

There was also the breathless hyping of the “Spygate” “Indictments” which were supposed to come down pre-election and (somehow) derail the (D) campaign: but even a hackish toad(y) like Bill Barr couldn’t even hoke up a viable attack on that line. So I guess the “October Surprise” is that there is no “October Surprise”??

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:48:32am

re: #281 NetworkKed

Hmm.

I would note that pretty much every prez election I remember has had some kind of surprise dump about something nasty - true or not - in the last weekend, and I’m not seeing it this year. It’s disconcerting.

Tara Reade didn’t work, Hunter Biden didn’t work. It’s looking like “Biden is a racist” is this week’s surprise, and it’s not working either.

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:49:57am

re: #286 teleskiguy

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- Donald ‘Shadow’ Rimgale, “Backdraft” (1990)

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:51:32am

re: #284 Ace-o-aces

They really tried with “Hunter’s Laptop”, but that kind of fizzled out (although it did result in Tucker Carlson utterly beclowning himself).

Hunter’s Laptop, Hunter’s Laptop
Nothing There, Nothing There
Bunch of Russian Bullshit, Bunch of Russian Bullshit
Press won’t care, Press won’t care…

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:53:05am

It is sort of a joke about laptops, but seriously, last election was decided by a laptop in the last month. This time they tried a few laptops in the last few weeks.

We’re such easy marks.

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Jay C  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:53:55am

re: #288 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Tara Reade didn’t work, Hunter Biden didn’t work. It’s looking like “Biden is a racist” is this week’s surprise, and it’s not working either.

SRSLY. This is the Trump campaign’s “appeal” to (one presumes) Black voters? Reaching back a quarter-century to contrast:

Joe “Voted For the 1994 Crime Bill” Biden vs.
Donald “Execute the Central Park Five” Trump ??

Brillliant. ///

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BeachDem  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:56:00am

Lindsey’s closing argument to women (of the 19th century)

“I want every young woman to know that that there’s a place for you in America if you’re pro-life, if you embrace your religion and you follow traditional family structure,” he added, “that you can go anywhere, young lady.”

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:57:21am

re: #293 BeachDem

Lindsey’s closing argument to women (of the 19th century)

“I want every young woman to know that that there’s a place for you in America if you’re pro-life, if you embrace your religion and you follow traditional family structure,” he added, “that you can go anywhere, young lady.”

That’s why I sent another $50 to Jamie on Friday. I want that closet queen on the unemployment line.

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KGxvi  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:57:45am

Heh, kevin bacon voting psa…

Kevin Bacon Voted

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:58:13am

re: #293 BeachDem

Lindsey’s closing argument to women (of the 19th century)

“I want every young woman to know that that there’s a place for you in America if you’re pro-life, if you embrace your religion and you follow traditional family structure,” he added, “that you can go anywhere, young lady.”

“Under His Eye”

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:58:55am

re: #293 BeachDem

Lindsey’s closing argument to women (of the 19th century)

“I want every young woman to know that that there’s a place for you in America if you’re pro-life, if you embrace your religion and you follow traditional family structure,” he added, “that you can go anywhere, young lady.”

You can go anywhere: The kitchen, the bedroom, the living room. Just not out of the house. That’s a man’s world.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 8:59:53am

re: #295 KGxvi

That was well done. Kevin Bacon seems to know a lot of someones.

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gwangung  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:00:30am

re: #283 (((Archangel1)))

You underestimate the willingness of many Americans on the left as on the right to resort to violence when they feel they have no other choice.
A 6-3 decision to undo voter rights and invalidate the constitutional will of many millions in order to foist another Darth Orange term means that those 6 will end up spending the rest of their lives fearing for their very existence every living moment. The same goes for a bunch of powerful but nonetheless mortal others leading in the subsequent dictatorship.

This is not in any way my calling out for violence, but pointing out that in a nation where access to dangerous weapons is ridiculously easy, the potential for violence is ridiculously high.
None of them are stupid enough to not be aware of that.
And I don’t think any of them want to die a martyr for the cause.

Yeah, it’s one thing if this was a 50.5-49.5 election. If the margin is 5% or greater, it’s a totally different thing.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:00:34am

re: #291 BigPapa

It is sort of a joke about laptops, but seriously, last election was decided by a laptop in the last month. This time they tried a few laptops in the last few weeks.

We’re such easy marks.

It made sense at the time if you considered the elements:

1. Comey’s grilling by Repubs had him remarking on live TV that the only reason he hadn’t recommended criminal charges was because of lack of evidence to prove criminal intent.

2. Despite fact-checking by various sources, there was still this constant repetition everywhere that emails were “missing” that might be the “smoking gun” to prove that intent.

3. The laptop was linked to Huma, who was spun as the most likely accomplice if Hillary wanted to hide anything related to her work as SecState.

So when that letter hit the press, it ignited all the worst expectations that the “smoking gun” might be about to turn up and Hillary would be indicted “any day now.”

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BeachDem  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:00:59am

re: #296 jaunte

“Under His Eye”

Truly, as he was singing Barrett’s praises at the time.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:03:14am

re: #275 BigPapa

F that safety BS. Firmware Update Fridays are best after you start drinking at lunch.

I assume that the Second Law of Sysadmins is Not Followed: If a change is made to fix a problem, and the problem does not resolve, roll it back! Keep rolling back until you reach status quo ante, the place and time before the problem took place.

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Targetpractice  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:03:52am

re: #299 gwangung

Yeah, it’s one thing if this was a 50.5-49.5 election. If the margin is 5% or greater, it’s a totally different thing.

Basically, for Trump to win at this point, the polls would have to be so far off that no reputable pollster would be able to show their faces after Tuesday.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:06:11am

re: #303 Targetpractice

Basically, for Trump to win at this point, the polls would have to be so far off that no reputable pollster would be able to show their faces after Tuesday.

FiveThirtyEight tweeted a map (which I saw here) showing what would happen if the polls were off as much as they were in 2016. I don’t remember the final total, but it was still a solid Biden win.

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NetworkKed  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:08:40am

I need something to distract myself this afternoon.

Oh, I can bet on football! Any tips on Minn/GB?

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:10:08am

re: #305 NetworkKed

I need something to distract myself this afternoon.

Oh, I can bet on football! Any tips on Minn/GB?

I can’t be distracted because my job is one of those Trump is reclassifying so I can be fired.

My job is on the line and that’s why I’m busing my ass phonebanking for Joe.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:10:42am

re: #305 NetworkKed

I need something to distract myself this afternoon.

Oh, I can bet on football! Any tips on Minn/GB?

Minnesota Sucks.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:11:04am

re: #304 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

FiveThirtyEight tweeted a map (which I saw here) showing what would happen if the polls were off as much as they were in 2016. I don’t remember the final total, but it was still a solid Biden win.

IIRC, if the polls were that far off, Biden would win 335 EVs.

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ericblair  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:11:31am

re: #291 BigPapa

It is sort of a joke about laptops, but seriously, last election was decided by a laptop in the last month. This time they tried a few laptops in the last few weeks.

We’re such easy marks.

Trump seems to be trying to run exactly the same campaign as 2016, down to the emails and the laptops and the fucking with Pennsylvania. Guess he figured it worked once, so if you brainlessly do the same thing again it will work again.

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BeachDem  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:11:38am

And we’re off…

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:14:10am

Quote for the day:

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:14:38am

re: #240 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No election in history has ever counted all the votes on Election Night. They’re basing it on a false pretense of the major media networks “calling” states on Election Night, conflating this with the final official election results, which don’t come out until weeks later.

or… .

They’re lying.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:15:33am

re: #309 ericblair

Trump seems to be trying to run exactly the same campaign as 2016, down to the emails and the laptops and the fucking with Pennsylvania. Guess he figured it worked once, so if you brainlessly do the same thing again it will work again.

nobody about to try and tell him otherwise. either they have moved on or given up

or both

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:15:41am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:16:28am

re: #240 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No election in history has ever counted all the votes on Election Night. They’re basing it on a false pretense of the major media networks “calling” states on Election Night, conflating this with the final official election results, which don’t come out until weeks later.

They know that, but that will be the basis for building a “case” against the outcome.

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Nojay UK  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:16:46am

re: #302 Sherlock Hound

I assume that the Second Law of Sysadmins is Not Followed: If a change is made to fix a problem, and the problem does not resolve, roll it back! Keep rolling back until you reach status quo ante, the place and time before the problem took place.

That’s also known as the Lost Puppy Fallacy of Sysadminning. The problem follows you all the way back to when it first made itself known (which is not necessarily the time when it actually took place) and then it piddles all over your system state backups too. Give it enough time and you’ll find toothmarks in your fibre runs.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:17:04am

re: #283 (((Archangel1)))

You underestimate the willingness of many Americans on the left as on the right to resort to violence when they feel they have no other choice.
A 6-3 decision to undo voter rights and invalidate the constitutional will of many millions in order to foist another Darth Orange term means that those 6 will end up spending the rest of their lives fearing for their very existence every living moment. The same goes for a bunch of powerful but nonetheless mortal others leading in the subsequent dictatorship.

This is not in any way my calling out for violence, but pointing out that in a nation where access to dangerous weapons is ridiculously easy, the potential for violence is ridiculously high.
None of them are stupid enough to not be aware of that.
And I don’t think any of them want to die a martyr for the cause.

I scared myself a little last night.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:17:13am

re: #311 Teukka

And from Grace Hopper too. That was nice, thank you. :)

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:19:13am

re: #315 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They know that, but that will be the basis for building a “case” against the outcome.

And we don’t have to give them the agency to believe they can win.

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:19:22am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:20:12am

No hurricanes were harmed in this event.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:20:26am
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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:20:56am

Unless Biden is standing at the top of a ramp.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:21:17am

Look at this lying fucker, blaming everybody else FOR ALL THE STUFF THAT HE HAS DONE.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:21:41am

My main concern is that the GOP will somehow manage to disqualify enough votes to change outcomes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:22:01am

re: #323 jaunte

Unless Biden is standing at the top base of a ramp.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:22:40am

re: #325 Eclectic Cyborg

My main concern is that the GOP will somehow manage to disqualify enough votes to change outcomes.

Just to hang them up long enough…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:22:54am

Please share with all the “but both sides” people you know.

fb.watch

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:25:26am
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makeitstop  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:25:37am

Thread:

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:26:22am

re: #328 GlutenFreeJesus

The Texas GOP already both-sided it because a Trump supporter was killed in Portland.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:26:23am

Our electoral system is based on mutual trust and goodwill and I am afraid it was not designed to be robust enough to stand up intact against the level of fuckery that is going to be directed at it on Tuesday.

Again, this is an unprecedented situation: an incumbent who knows he faces criminal charges as soon as he leaves office and every motivation to use underhanded and criminal methods to influence the outcome in his favor.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:28:01am

Theory: If Trump somehow wins he will fire Bill Barr and replace him with an even more crackpot AG.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:28:03am
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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:28:11am

re: #275 BigPapa

F that safety BS. Firmware Update Fridays are best after you start drinking at lunch.

The end/beginning of the month is supposed to be locked down for all but emergency changes. Things still break despite no changes, however.

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No, of course I didn’t have any lunch, and my mother? The legally blind woman? She was convinced I’d lost weight, so to humor her I went and weighed myself and sure enough, I’d lost five pounds in the last two weeks, mostly from subsisting on a diet of bagels, corn chips and diet Coke. (Don’t yell. My brother already did.) I just don’t feel like eating and I know it’s the election.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:30:17am

re: #329 teleskiguy

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I’ve got this whacked out Trump cultist acquaintance that’s been going on for months about how she’s going to leave IL for FREEDOM LOVING TEXAS!!!!! If TX turns blue, it might be worth unblocking her on FB to ask where she’s going to move now that it’s blue and Biden is President. *snicker*

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:30:42am

re: #335 mmmirele

I’m pretty sure I ended up with those pounds.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:31:33am

re: #335 mmmirele

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:33:03am

re: #336 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ve got this whacked out Trump cultist acquaintance that’s been going on for months about how she’s going to leave IL for FREEDOM LOVING TEXAS!!!!! If TX turns blue, it might be worth unblocking her on FB to ask where she’s going to move now that it’s blue and Biden is President. *snicker*

Welcome to Texas, Illinois lady. Have we got a surprise for you!

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plansbandc  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:33:30am

re: #322 jaunte

What a fucking asshole.

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b.d.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:34:41am

re: #333 Eclectic Cyborg

Theory: If Trump somehow wins he will fire Bill Barr and replace him with an even more crackpot AG.

I think there will be a bunch of firings Wednesday AM either way. If Trump loses he’ll fire Fauci and a lot others to try and get the headlines away from his loss and if he wins he’ll fire the same guys just because.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:35:35am

re: #333 Eclectic Cyborg

I believe Barr has been operating with a level of personal calculus where he believes he can escape criminal prosecution upon a Trump defeat. If Trump manages a return to the White House Barr’s velvet gloves will come off and the iron fist of a 100% corrupt Christian Theocracy with Trump as a virtual Pope will be revealed.

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:35:58am

Even when they get it right, they still have to do so with the underlying frame of giving the GOP and only GOP voices credence.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:36:34am

re: #341 b.d.

I think there will be a bunch of firings Wednesday AM either way. If Trump loses he’ll fire Fauci and a lot others to try and get the headlines away from his loss and if he wins he’ll fire the same guys just because.

I don’t think we’ll know Wednesday AM who wins. I think it’ll be next weekend before enough states have reported enough totals to call a winner. With that said, I think we will have clear indications on Wednesday morning as to who the eventual winner will be.

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:36:54am

re: #316 Nojay UK

That’s also known as the Lost Puppy Fallacy of Sysadminning. The problem follows you all the way back to when it first made itself known (which is not necessarily the time when it actually took place) and then it piddles all over your system state backups too. Give it enough time and you’ll find toothmarks in your fibre runs.

Networking Philosophy on Sunday at LGF. This place still has it’s suprises.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:38:29am

If Trump does not win on Tuesday then the election is a clearly sham…throw out the fake results and let the SCOTUS decide who should be our next President-for-Life with the power to appoint his successor!!!

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:39:07am

re: #302 Sherlock Hound

I assume that the Second Law of Sysadmins is Not Followed: If a change is made to fix a problem, and the problem does not resolve, roll it back! Keep rolling back until you reach status quo ante, the place and time before the problem took place.

We have some changes that are so extensive that the only thing which can be done is “fix and fall forward.” The less said about this, the better.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:39:08am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:39:35am

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:42:37am

re: #316 Nojay UK

That’s also known as the Lost Puppy Fallacy of Sysadminning. The problem follows you all the way back to when it first made itself known (which is not necessarily the time when it actually took place) and then it piddles all over your system state backups too. Give it enough time and you’ll find toothmarks in your fibre runs.

We had an issue reported to us this past week. It was a known issue, and it was very, very, very low level. But for some reason, someone had a bee in their bonnet about needing to get it fixed right now. One of my teammates was able to get rid of the issue after learning this had been going on since 2011, so obviously not urgent enough to fix over the last nine years.

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b.d.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:44:31am

Sweet!

A rout would be nice.

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BigPapa  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:46:40am

re: #350 mmmirele

We had an issue reported to us this past week. It was a known issue, and it was very, very, very low level. But for some reason, someone had a bee in their bonnet about needing to get it fixed right now. One of my teammates was able to get rid of the issue after learning this had been going on since 2011, so obviously not urgent enough to fix over the last nine years.

LOL. Friday 11AM email from people having a vacation home with 6 TV’s:

‘Our TV has been acting up all week, we’ve been trying to get it to work. Can you come out today and look at it? There’s a lot of sports we don’t want to miss.’

Then they get cranky when you tell them you charge more for Emergency Rates. Then ask you if you come first thing thing the very next day, as if it makes it all better.

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:47:28am

re: #331 Belafon

The Texas GOP already both-sided it because a Trump supporter was killed in Portland.

And then the police (under the guidance of the Trump Administration) proceeded to assassinate the alleged killer. Let’s not forget Michael Reinoehl did not get his day in court, but was instead killed. You’d think they’d want this guy alive to trot him around as evil Antifa but they didn’t. There’s more behind this than meets the eye, I’m sure.

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:47:41am

re: #347 mmmirele

We have some changes that are so extensive that the only thing which can be done is “fix and fall forward.” The less said about this, the better.

This happens in my company a lot.

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jeffreyw  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:47:48am

re: #269 plansbandc

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Stolen and tweet to both of my followers! Hi Mom!

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NetworkKed  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:48:10am

re: #344 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I don’t think we’ll know Wednesday AM who wins. I think it’ll be next weekend before enough states have reported enough totals to call a winner. With that said, I think we will have clear indications on Wednesday morning as to who the eventual winner will be.

Will all the votes be counted? No, of course not.

But will there be data to call the race on Tuesday? I’d argue yes. This should not be as close as 2016, or even 2012, and those were called before midnight. (So was 2008, and pretty much every election from 1996 back to the 60s.) So much early voting will mean that the process of counting proceeds differently, but in most places this means that it will go faster. PA and WI are the only meaningful states where that will not be true. WI is not close enough for that to matter, so ONLY in the case where PA is literally the deciding state, not the much-discussed so-called tipping point state are we going to be deep into Wednesday… and even then it’s probably not going to be that long.

The media’s fixation on this theorycrafted long count is gross, and frankly is a manipulation by the Trump campaign to try to shape expectations to suit their post-election hijinks. Don’t believe it.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:48:44am
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:50:46am

re: #347 mmmirele

We have some changes that are so extensive that the only thing which can be done is “fix and fall forward.” The less said about this, the better.

Yes, that can happen. A machine is broken and needs an update to fix. But there is no “good, known state” to go from. Sometimes these devolve into a “forklift upgrade” or “checkbook upgrade”.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:51:07am

re: #351 b.d.

That would be very sweet. I would love to see PA go blue. :)

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mmmirele  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:52:44am

re: #337 Belafon

I’m pretty sure I ended up with those pounds.

Well, I was kind of proud of not putting on the “COVID 15” (pounds) but I really didn’t expect to drop more weight. Except that I went back and looked at what I’d been eating and it was…(a) not good and (b) not enough.

For the record, my cat has extraordinary ham radar. I’m eating a prepared food with pieces of ham in it and she first got aggressive because I wasn’t sharing, but now is happy because I gave her some. I’ve never had a cat who was so aggressive about …ham.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 9:58:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:00:14am

re: #361 jaunte

That is good news.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:01:05am

re: #362 PhillyPretzel

I’m glad someone is organizing a defense against the ratfuckery.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:02:45am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:03:35am

re: #363 jaunte

PA has a Democratic Governor Tom Wolf. Say what you will he has been in the GOP sights and knows how to counteract it.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:07:13am

re: #365 PhillyPretzel

PA has a Democratic Governor Tom Wolf. Say what you will he has been in the GOP sights and knows how to counteract it.

Asshole Proud Boy grandnephew threatened Tom Wolf. I took a screenshot and sent to the PA Attorney General. As far as I’m concerned I’ve fucking had it with those assholes!

Tired of these fucking assholes insulting me, bullying and reciting verses from their book of fractured fairy tales.

PS Fuck their churches. It’s time to take churches off of the tax-exempt gravy train. TAX THE FUCKING CHURCHES!

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:10:11am

So I found this here….
Does it take one to know one? Endorsement of conspiracy theories is influenced by personal willingness to conspire.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:11:26am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:17:54am

Ah Texans are telling me Crenshaw is full of shit.

LOVE IT!

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Dopefish: Ever hopeful.  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:18:29am

re: #369 🌹UOJB!

Ah Texans are telling me Crenshaw is full of shit.

LOVE IT!

Keep on keeping on. Have faith. We WILL do this.

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teleskiguy  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:19:13am

re: #286 teleskiguy

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Teukka  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:20:54am

re: #367 Teukka

And another find:
Belief in conspiracy theories and intentions to engage in everyday crime -

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:22:58am

Wallowing in the shit.

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SteelPH  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:24:15am

Wow. This garbage is the exact opposite of reality.
(Berner BS behind the button)

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The underlying, unspoken argument here is that black people vote, and that’s apparently very unfair.

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Jay C  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:24:19am

re: #336 GlutenFreeJesus

I’ve got this whacked out Trump cultist acquaintance that’s been going on for months about how she’s going to leave IL for FREEDOM LOVING TEXAS!!!!! If TX turns blue, it might be worth unblocking her on FB to ask where she’s going to move now that it’s blue and Biden is President. *snicker*

I dunno: even if that chart in #329 turns out to be an accurate prediction for the TX Statehouse, it’s not like there’s going to be a Blue Tsunami Up The Colorado - yes, it is absolutely a Good Thing but it seems like the next Lege is either going to be a narrow (D) majority, a narrow (R) Majority, or possible a tie or near-tie. And, it IS Texas: if assumed (as seems likely) the local GOPers are going to hang together in a unified - and desperate - bloc, there’s probably not much a Dem-controlled Legislature will be able to accomplish.

Not to disparage the efforts, though: TX has been considered a “Republican bastion” and Wingnut Central for so long that even the prospect of a Blue Trifecta (Biden/Harris winning the state, Democrats taking the Lege, Cornyn getting the boot) is almost just Too Much Schadenfreude…
Almost.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:25:29am

re: #374 SteelPH

Wow. This garbage is the exact opposite of reality.
(Berner BS behind the button)

[Embedded content]

The underlying, unspoken argument here is that black people vote, and that’s apparently very unfair.

[private]These are the same people who wanted the DNC to make Bernie the nominee four years ago based on polls. They’re the ones who are anti democracy.[/private

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:25:32am

re: #371 teleskiguy

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SteelPH  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:28:12am

re: #376 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Pure projection on their part.

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jamesfirecat  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:29:10am

re: #373 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Wallowing in the shit.

2 30 minutes of hate.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:32:22am
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SteelPH  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:33:04am

re: #378 SteelPH

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:33:11am

That 5min video includes a lot of footage and sound from Trump supporters gleefully joining the mob.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:33:44am

Dodged that bullet.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:40:50am
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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:41:25am

It’s time to take off the gloves with corrupted Republican judges.

Every last fucking Republican judge who engages in voter suppression needs to be indicted. Every last one of them and that includes the crooks on the Supreme Court.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:41:30am

re: #373 jaunte

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Citizen K  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:43:27am

re: #383 jaunte

The Federal challenge in front of District Judge Hanen is still set for this Monday though and considering his history, there’s still the potential for 11th hour fuckery.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:43:45am
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ericblair  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:44:54am

re: #383 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Dodged that bullet.

I’m confused. I thought this was resolved by the Texas SC already, and tomorrow is a hearing before a Federal court. If this means that the Texas SC just denies an appeals court petition, I guess it puts the Federal case in a pretty bad spot, but doesn’t get rid of it.

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Ace-o-aces  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:45:38am
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calochortus  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:45:44am

re: #374 SteelPH

Wow. This garbage is the exact opposite of reality.
(Berner BS behind the button)

[Embedded content]

The underlying, unspoken argument here is that black people vote, and that’s apparently very unfair.

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🌹UOJB!  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:46:08am

re: #389 ericblair

I’m confused. I thought this was resolved by the Texas SC already, and tomorrow is a hearing before a Federal court. If this means that the Texas SC just denies an appeals court petition, I guess it puts the Federal case in a pretty bad spot, but doesn’t get rid of it.

You got a right wing whore judge who will gladly do anything for the Republican Party.

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jaunte  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:52:12am

re: #389 ericblair

I hope Hanen takes it as a yellow card.

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Belafon  Nov 1, 2020 • 10:53:51am

re: #392 🌹UOJB!

You got a right wing whore judge who will gladly do anything for the Republican Party.

Which the Robert’s court hasn’t looked too kindly on.


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