Some More News: The GOP’s Martha’s Vineyard Stunt Backfired and Then… They Just Lied About It

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Hi. This week, we’re taking a look at the cruelty and shamelessness of when Ron DeSantis human trafficked a bunch of migrants to Martha’s Vineyard. This did not go how the GOP thought it would, so they spent the last few weeks lying and pretending it did.

Executive Producer - Katy Stoll
Directed by Will Gordh
Written by David Christopher Bell
Edited by Gregg Meller
Producer - Jonathan Harris
Associate Producer - Quincy Tucker
Post-Production Supervisor – John Conway
Researcher - Marco Siler-Gonzales
Graphics by F. Clint DeNisco
Head Writer - David Christopher Bell

Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
07:09 - Ron DeSantis’ Cruel Kidnapping Stunt…
21:25 - …And How It Really Backfired
29:25 - What This Stunt Says About The GOP
41:49 - The GOP Lied About How This Went For Them

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:23:42am
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:25:06am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:26:55am

re: #2 Crush White Nationalism

Maybe they’re more affluent because they refused to pay Snap, Crackle, and Pop’s salaries.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:28:02am

re: #2 Crush White Nationalism

And I bet Deathsantis didn’t even give them a little package of peanuts or at least water on the plane.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:28:49am
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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:28:59am

re: #2 Crush White Nationalism

Liberals not giving immigrants their own homes on Martha’s Vineyard is supposed to expose something hypocritical about liberals to an audience in favor of kidnapping immigrant children to discourage them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:33:08am
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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:34:07am
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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:34:22am

re: #291 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie
> Russia in particular has a long history, dating to the 19th century, of such operations (see Protocols of the Elders of Zion)

It’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine, so I decided to comment on this secondary point: the origin of the Protocols is still unknown, and there’s no credible evidence connecting them to the Okhranka (the testimonies about Rachkovsky’s participation having been discredited). See M. Hagemeister’s studies on this point.

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:35:00am
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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:40:37am
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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:40:59am

Photos and stories of the Russians who managed to cross the border.

meduza.io

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A Cranky One  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:50:48am

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:52:08am
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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:53:27am

re: #10 William Lewis

….Truth to an “Evangelical” is like sunlight to a vampire…..

If only. Evangelicals ignore the truth and keep spreading their lies.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:53:38am

Look at this. Naples. South of where it’s coming ashore. Holy fuck.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:54:35am

re: #9 Nyet

> Russia in particular has a long history, dating to the 19th century, of such operations (see Protocols of the Elders of Zion)

It’s a bit of a pet peeve of mine, so I decided to comment on this secondary point: the origin of the Protocols is still unknown, and there’s no credible evidence connecting them to the Okhranka (the testimonies about Rachkovsky’s participation having been discredited). See M. Hagemeister’s studies on this point.

Indeed, but they probably did originate in Russia and were obviously created in furtherance of Russian policy objectives of the time. My purpose is not to accuse specific government agencies per se, especially considering that most present-day influence operations are not the work of official Russian agencies, but of the regime’s supporters in the oligarchy. It is analogous to the lies pumped out by the Republican National Committee during the Trump administration. Official agencies were not usually involved but the lies were very much in support of Trump and his policies.
To take it further, I have actually had the idea that the American stooge tail wags the Kremlin dog in this. American collaborators are incomparably more skilled and experienced at grifting Americans than Russia’s own assets could ever be. It is they who develop and package the specifics, while the Russians provide overall direction, specific objectives, and assets (like the troll farms) to assist in the spread of disinformation. They also provide the incentive, of course, but I seriously doubt that very much of this involves involves actual money changing hands. Rather, it would be in the form of coordinated propaganda support, confidential information to help in investments and political strategy, and the protection of critical information about the American accomplices (that is, blackmail).

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:57:06am

Holy shit, I hope this is a traffic cam and not an actual person with a camera.

No no not Lara trump

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 10:58:17am

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

I bet she had an umbrella to protect herself and her camera.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:02:54am

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

Holy shit, I hope this is a traffic cam and not an actual person with a camera.

Is her son’s name Kyle?

Youtube Video

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:12:03am

Youtube Video

Camera 9 is under water now.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:15:00am
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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:16:11am

Bonita Beach is about to be 12’ deep in storm surge.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:17:45am

re: #18 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:23:55am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:28:38am
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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:33:38am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:38:48am

re: #27 Crush White Nationalism

hahahahaaa

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:39:14am

re: #27 Crush White Nationalism

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2 * 0 = 0, so she’s correct mathematically.

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nines09  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:42:14am

Meanwhile in Pennsylvania Doug Fascist trolls the bottom feeders.

As campaign struggles, Doug Mastriano plans ‘40 days of fasting and prayer’
The Republican gubernatorial candidate is losing some support among GOP allies as his cash-strapped campaign turns to Twitter memes and, apparently, divine intervention

A few more Mastriano and Oz signs have popped up here.
The usual brain dead bozos who were delirious with joy when Trump infected the WH.
If they don’t know by now they never will. All the anti Fetterman ads are just outright lies. He’s going to let all the black criminals out to rape and maim you white peoples.
But what else is new?
Unbelievably stunningly stupid.
I’ve cut old friends loose. I am done.
There are lines you do not cross.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:55:11am
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No Malarkey!  Sep 28, 2022 • 11:57:55am
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:01:00pm

re: #32 No Malarkey!

More than we should learn about Robert E. Lee.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:03:59pm

re: #32 No Malarkey!

“How much can we learn about Harriet Tubman?”

“Anything” would be a start.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:05:03pm

re: #32 No Malarkey!

Of course Greg Kelly is too stupid to understand a lot of the kids going the African-American museums ARE BLACK.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:05:03pm
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:05:34pm

Fetterman went to Daily Kos to talk about his tattoos: dailykos.com

I have nine dates tattooed on my right forearm. Each one is a day on which someone died violently in Braddock, Pennsylvania, while I was mayor. Gun violence and violent crime might be jokes to someone like Carlson, but they are very real to people in towns like Braddock.

The first one that I tattooed on my arm is “01.16.06.” That’s the date on which Christopher Williams was shot dead while delivering pizzas. This was a man about my age at the time. He had a 12-year-old daughter. I just couldn’t get over the fact that he was never going home to her.

Another tattoo reads “02.03.07,” the date that 23-month-old Nyia Page was found dead after her father sexually assaulted her and left her in the bitter cold. Her tiny footprints in the snow led an officer to her body. And I have “09.16.13,” the date Derrail Roilton, a father of two, was found dead in the yard next to his mother’s home after being shot three times.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:07:58pm

About those votes in the occupied areas:

Russian soldiers are already going house to house in some villages and writing down the names of male residents, local residents say. They claim soldiers have told them to be ready for a call-up after the referendum.

bbc.com

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:08:55pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course Greg Kelly is too stupid to understand a lot of the kids going the African-American museums ARE BLACK.

No, that’s exactly who he doesn’t want to go there. The first step in cultural genocide is destroying the knowledge of history.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:09:49pm

re: #22 jaunte

aww

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:12:45pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:14:38pm
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:16:14pm
Federal authorities said earlier this month that Tiffani Shea Gish left three threatening voicemails for Florida Judge Aileen Cannon. In one voicemail, she said to the judge, “I’m also Trump’s hitman, so consider it a bullet to your head from Donald Trump himself.”

In another voicemail, she said, “you’re full of shit, and I’m going to fucking have you shot myself, I’ve already ordered snipers and a bomb to your fucking house.”

In these voicemail messages, Gish referred to herself as “Evelyn Salt” and said she was in “charge of nuclear for the United States Government.”

dailykos.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:16:50pm

the “sharks” ALWAYS show up during hurricanes…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:19:48pm
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A Three Hour Tour  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:21:16pm

I’m back briefly. Haven’t had time to catch up with the day’s news. Landline came back up Monday evening, then went down again for a few hours yesterday afternoon, came back up again let’s afternoon and stayed up through the evening until we lost dialtone again thisafternoonsometime between 12:20 and 12:40. It was still down when my son and I left for the library twenty minutes ago.

We’ve had no internet access at home since Saturday afternoon, and a technician is supposed to come out tomorrow.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:25:21pm

Early heads up for you folks hanging out in this thread - tomorrow morning I’m putting the site in “maintenance mode” (you’ll only be able to get to the maintenance page), so we can dump the database to an enormous SQL file, send it over to the new server, and import it into MySQL. The first part only takes a few minutes but importing the whole DB will probably take a while; not sure exactly how long because it’s the latest MariaDB and a very fast server, but it could be several hours.

I’ll put up a post about it so everyone can see it. And you can reach me on Twitter if anyone needs me.

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:27:36pm

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:27:37pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

please to provide progress reports on twitter?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:28:50pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

also, “tomorrow morning”…Pacific time o’clock?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:30:21pm

heh

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Shropshire Slasher  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:30:33pm

Animal House - All Is Well!

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Charles Johnson  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:31:01pm

I’m thinking probably about 10:00 am Pacific time, unless something changes. I have to coordinate with our web host.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:32:53pm

re: #51 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

MrBWS thinks that’s a manta ray at the end of the clip

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nines09  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:33:53pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:34:03pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

I’m thinking probably about 10:00 am Pacific time, unless something changes. I have to coordinate with our web host.

OK, so us east coast lizards will still have all morning.
whew!

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:37:50pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS thinks that’s a manta ray at the end of the clip

Sharkicain. Ray’s are in the shark family aren’t they?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:38:14pm

Let’s hope DeSantis gets busted for misusing federal hurricane relief funds in the near future.

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TarHellion  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:39:48pm

re: #55 nines09

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A Cranky One  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:43:03pm

re: #47 Charles Johnson

Oh noes.

Guess I’ll have to find alternate entertainment. Maybe play some guitar with friends.

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Captain Ron  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:43:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:44:06pm

re: #58 GlutenFreeJesus

Let’s hope DeSantis gets busted for misusing federal hurricane relief funds in the near future.

Probably be able to add it to TFGs list of crimes too.

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nines09  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:45:01pm

re: #59 TarHellion

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:45:16pm

re: #61 Captain Ron

DELETED DUE TO BAD MATH.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:48:46pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

4 miles a second would be 60 miles a minute would be 3600 MPH.

4 miles per second would be 240 miles in a minute would be 14400 MPH.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:51:25pm

re: #57 Eventual Carrion

Sharkicain. Ray’s are in the shark family aren’t they?

they always show up for the hurricane photo ops…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:51:52pm

re: #65 Belafon

4 miles per second would be 240 miles in a minute would be 14400 MPH.

You are correct. D’oh!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:52:04pm

re: #57 Eventual Carrion

Sharkicain. Ray’s are in the shark family aren’t they?

Ian Ziering needs a new movie. Sharkicane is as good as anything else.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:53:15pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

4 miles a second would be 60 miles a minute would be 3600 MPH.

re: #65 Belafon

4 miles per second would be 240 miles in a minute would be 14400 MPH.

There’s ALWAYS math here!

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No Malarkey!  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:54:07pm

re: #67 Eclectic Cyborg

You are correct. D’oh!

Its OK. My daughter showed her chemistry professor he miscalculated a problem on her exam!

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:55:56pm

re: #68 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ian Ziering needs a new movie. Sharkicane is as good as anything else.

I didn’t know who that was, so I looked him up.
That’s a crash and burn of a career.

Ian Andrew Ziering is an American actor and voice actor best known for his role as Steve Sanders on the television series Beverly Hills, 90210, which he played from 1990 to 2000. He is also the voice of Vinnie on Biker Mice from Mars. From 2013 to 2018, he starred as Fin Shepard in the Sharknado film series.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:58:06pm

re: #71 Crush White Nationalism

I didn’t know who that was, so I looked him up.
That’s a crash and burn of a career.

Tara Reid, as well.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 12:58:42pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:02:12pm

Now with Ian’s landfall and local area tide chart, my old property on Lemon Bay projected to get ~6-8 ft storm surge. Don’t know how much of a buffer 5 mile long Manasota Key (IIRC elevation 3 meters) between Lemon Bay and Gulf of Mexico, will be.

Hope the new owners come thru with as little damage as possible, and given the property is in a FEMA flood plain, renewing their homeowner’s insurance is gonna be a bitch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:03:12pm

re: #73 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS says that’s one phase down, you can see the single line down.
He doesn’t understand why isn’t it kicking out (blowing a fuse or knock the line out or kicking the breaker at the substation).
It’s wild. Shouldn’t be happening like that.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:05:44pm

re: #71 Crush White Nationalism

I didn’t know who that was, so I looked him up.
That’s a crash and burn of a career.

None of the actors from there really went anywhere else big. A few had more success than others, but they couldn’t translate their roles into big success.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:06:33pm

re: #76 Belafon

None of the actors from there really went anywhere else big. A few had more success than others, but they couldn’t translate their roles into big success.

Luke Perry managed to rebound a little bit…until he passed away unexpectedly.

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danarchy  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:06:54pm

re: #74 BeenHereAwhile

Now with Ian’s landfall and local area tide chart, my old property on Lemon Bay projected to get ~6-8 ft storm surge. Don’t know how much of a buffer 5 mile long Manasota Key (IIRC elevation 3 meters) between Lemon Bay and Gulf of Mexico, will be.

Hope the new owners come thru with as little damage as possible, and given the property is in a FEMA flood plain, renewing their homeowner’s insurance is gonna be a bitch.

Homeowner’s shouldn’t be a problem, but generally doesn’t cover flood damage, especially in a flood plain. It’s the supplemental flood insurance that is going to be a real bitch.

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gocart mozart  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:06:56pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:12:48pm

I don’t know if this is an artifact, but it sure looks like Ian tried to spin off a second eye.

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:14:22pm

re: #76 Belafon

None of the actors from there really went anywhere else big. A few had more success than others, but they couldn’t translate their roles into big success.

Jason Priestley has had a pretty good career.
imdb.com

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:17:03pm

re: #63 nines09

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John Hughes  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:17:27pm

re: #65 Belafon

Use sensible units FFS.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:17:58pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s ALWAYS math here!

Impressive? That’s about .00000215 of the speed of light.

Shit we are slow af.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:18:11pm
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:19:16pm

re: #57 Eventual Carrion

Sharkicain. Ray’s are in the shark family aren’t they?

They are cartilaginous fishes, as are sharks.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:19:17pm

re: #84 Florida Panhandler

Impressive? That’s about .00000215 of the speed of light.

Shit we are slow af.

Watched it live. Loved the last shot and then all the NASA folx hugging.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:22:46pm
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John Hughes  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:23:19pm

re: #79 gocart mozart

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

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Captain Ron  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:24:10pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:24:33pm

Florida Man

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:24:36pm

re: #83 John Hughes

Use sensible units FFS.

Not everyone understands furlongs/fortnight.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:25:47pm

re: #91 The Pie Overlord!

Fire coral and jellyfish have ways of fixing that behavior.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:26:39pm

In Texas the storm surge uses fire ants to deter waders.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:27:19pm

Be advised: Volume Warming

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:29:35pm

re: #91 The Pie Overlord!

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:29:40pm

re: #92 Belafon

Not everyone understands furlongs/fortnight.

“Furlongs” should only be used in horse racing, and “fortnight” should be used everywhere.

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Crush White Nationalism  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:30:48pm

re: #88 Backwoods_Sleuth

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:31:23pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:32:09pm

re: #77 Eclectic Cyborg

Luke Perry managed to rebound a little bit…until he passed away unexpectedly.

Jason Priestley has done ok. He had a series up here in Canada for 5 years that just ended. Really good show, too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:35:10pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Of course Greg Kelly is too stupid to understand a lot of the kids going the African-American museums ARE BLACK.

Greg Kelly is declaring that those blacks kids aren’t American, and that things that happened to black people aren’t American history. He’s further stating that history is a rhetorical exercise in which marginalized and persecuted people are not entitled to participate.

I mean, it’s an explicit statement of what’s implicit in Great Man liberal history: history is the history of the imperial core and the bourgeois individuals of the imperial core, framed as the imperial core dictates: the stigmatized and persecuted may physically be in the country but their experiences are not of the country. The notion that they belong, that their experiences matter and constitute a part of the machinery that create and maintain the society, is in direct opposition to the needs of the state.

It’s not stupidity, it’s the same thing that colonial powers did to their subjects. The marginal people must exist and be marginal—ideally trained to accept that they will always be marginal—and this is achieved curation of culture to omit both their place within the society and their marginal qualities that grant them distinctiveness.

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Captain Ron  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:38:54pm
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dat_said  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:40:11pm

re: #97 Grunthos the Flatulent

“Furlongs” should only be used in horse racing, and “fortnight” should be used everywhere.

And rods should only be used by Voyageur reenactors on portages in the BWCA.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:41:28pm

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

When eye-wall replacement goes on the eye-wall is often not in the exact same place as the old one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:44:51pm

re: #94 jaunte

In Texas the storm surge uses fire ants to deter waders.

Youtube Video

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:44:51pm

Uhm.

Did I miss something? Has Decatur Deb been around? I haven’t seen him posting in awhile.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:45:47pm

re: #106 William Lewis

Wanted to ask too.

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A Cranky One  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:48:33pm

re: #106 William Lewis

Uhm.

Did I miss something? Has Decatur Deb been around? I haven’t seen him posting in awhile.

He shows in the list of logged in users.

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:48:57pm

re: #107 Nyet

Wanted to ask too.

I meant to ask you, I posted a youtube video and a telegram video the other day about conscription follies - but I don’t have any Russian to be able to get a feel for the accuracy of the videos. Did you see them?

Here: littlegreenfootballs.com

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John Hughes  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:49:14pm

re: #97 Grunthos the Flatulent

Furlongs are very useful if you’re plowing a straight line with two oxen.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:50:07pm

re: #109 William Lewis

No, sorry. Could you send me the links?

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Captain Ron  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:50:31pm
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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:51:06pm

re: #111 Nyet

No, sorry. Could you send me the links?

Edited my post

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John Hughes  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:52:33pm

re: #91 The Pie Overlord!

You don’t know what may be in this water, including chemicals shit!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:58:31pm

re: #95 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Be advised: Volume Warming

If I’m sleeping on that bed, I see a serious fundamental flaw in the design of the cat entertainment unit.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:58:51pm

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea

Remember that “assimilation” exists to be a moving goalpost.

You’re supposed to remove your distinctiveness to be accepted by the hegemony (the people running the imperial core) but since they need you to not have equal rights—you exist to do cheap labor and destroy your body, under threat of state terror—and not have social standing (that culturally gestures at a legal entitlement to rights) they will never accept you without provisions, without compliance checks.

The point of what reactionaries are doing with history is to establish an educational system that demands assimilation—deny both that you have a distinct history, but also deny that your history is reflective of disenfranchisement within the official history—with the full knowledge that it is lose/lose.

They’re especially angry that AA kids are going to AA museums, because what they want is for those kids to try…and fail…to adhere to the hegemonic narrative, precisely because it will reduce the quality of their lives.

Racism isn’t always about hate, but racism always is about making concrete an entirely ephemeral power distinction because that way you can take more from the deemed-inferior party. Racist history exists to make the abuses of the present seem inevitable and necessary: this is ideally achieved by parasitically inserting it into the people most harmed by it.

African American history is thus a kind of trilemma problem for the racist.

If it is presented as authentically American, it suggests that people not subject to racism empathize with those subject to racism…and to see the commonalities between what has been achieved by racism and what has been achieved by, say, class narratives and xenophobia.

If it is presented as one valid subset of American historical experience, that suggests there is no one unifying, top-down-dictated narrative.

If it is presented as exclusively the concern of African Americans distinct from other Americans, then implicitly African Americans are entitled to narrative their own American experience.

None of this is acceptable, so African American history cannot be valid, period.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2022 • 1:58:52pm

re: #78 danarchy

Homeowner’s shouldn’t be a problem, but generally doesn’t cover flood damage, especially in a flood plain. It’s the supplemental flood insurance that is going to be a real bitch.

Dunno know YMMV.

FL’s ins market is EF’d up with major carriers refusing to write, or to raise rates X3 Fire/non Windstorm in FL.

Personal knowledge, friend on the east coast, house above FEMA food plain, upper middle class subdivision, two miles from Atlantic ocean Fire/non Windstorm will not be renewed by State Farm. He’s willing to pay higher rate - only fire/non windstorm ins available thru State of FL backed Citizens Insurance (insert Twilight Zone theme).

A Bayfront house in FEMA flood plain, having suffered recent storm surge, YMMV.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:00:50pm

re: #101 The Ghost of a Flea

You forgot to mention his plug for the Air and Space Museum to help discount any non-yt people. He also showed Discovery, which is not in DC, but at the Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia

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TarHellion  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:04:34pm

re: #116 The Ghost of a Flea

The National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis should be on everyone’s to-visit list. Really shows the long struggle for a modicum of equality. And they have preserved the Lorraine Motel where MLK was assassinated. A truly moving experience that revealed how much was overlooked or willfully ignored in my high school history classes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:05:50pm

re: #106 William Lewis

Uhm.

Did I miss something? Has Decatur Deb been around? I haven’t seen him posting in awhile.

re: #107 Nyet

Wanted to ask too.

It’s busy season for run up to midterms.
He’s doing his usual GOTV.

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:08:29pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s busy season for run up to midterms.
He’s doing his usual GOTV.

That’s good to know. I simply value his contributions here very highly and was concerned that I hadn’t noted him in a couple of months.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:10:58pm

re: #121 William Lewis

That’s good to know. I simply value his contributions here very highly and was concerned that I hadn’t noted him in a couple of months.

Unless BeachDem has heard from him otherwise, he’s fine.

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Florida Panhandler  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:11:11pm

re: #117 BeenHereAwhile

Dunno know YMMV.

FL’s ins market is EF’d up with major carriers refusing to write, or to raise rates X3 Fire/non Windstorm in FL.

Personal knowledge, friend on the east coast, house above FEMA food plain, upper middle class subdivision, two miles from Atlantic ocean Fire/non Windstorm will not be renewed by State Farm. He’s willing to pay higher rate - only fire/non windstorm ins available thru State of FL backed Citizens Insurance (insert Twilight Zone theme).

A Bayfront house in FEMA flood plain, having suffered recent storm surge, YMMV.

The Florida real estate insurance situation is already a dire fuck up right now that will explode into cinders and ashes once the cleanup and rebuilding bills start to add up from this catastrophic hurricane. Federal Flood Insurance assistance has been scaling back for years now and with it insurance companies going bankrupt and pulling out of the market entirely.

Traditional Republican ideology is for “free market” forces to magically fix problems out of thin air, but DeSantis is not old GOP. He is a fascist more than willing to use populism and more traditionally “left” ideas involving government intervention in order to further his overall agenda of personal power, cynical cronyism and racism. I expect DeSantis to announce direct government programs to back underwriters and even a Florida State Insurance program …direct Socialism.

Socialism here in Florida will be needed to even buy a home here now or allow for flood insurance. And Republican voters will end up cheering for it. …Because it furthers a racist power hungry despot.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:16:34pm

re: #102 Captain Ron

I was wondering when the infamous Jim Cantore was going to make his appearance. If the weather is going to be catastrophic, he will be there!

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:16:56pm

re: #113 William Lewis

I don’t know about this particular guy, but I don’t have a reason to doubt his story. The whole mobilization is pretty chaotic, as you have heard, with the public promises not corresponding to the “facts on the ground”. More about that here: meduza.io

So it is very plausible that some are being sent to the front even without training. The question is rather, what’s the percentage of such cases.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:17:23pm
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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:17:40pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Glad to hear that!

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:21:12pm

re: #125 Nyet

I don’t know about this particular guy, but I don’t have a reason to doubt his story. The whole mobilization is pretty chaotic, as you have heard, with the public promises not corresponding to the “facts on the ground”. More about that here: meduza.io

So it is very plausible that some are being sent to the front even without training. The question is rather, what’s the percentage of such cases.

That was rather my feeling but since I had little way of knowing, I put the disclaimer in the post. As a vet I shudder at the thought of these people being thrown against battle hardened Ukrainian troops like the kids in the Battle of Berlin.

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:21:26pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:22:15pm

Cape Coral southern end is even lower than Ft. Meyers, so I suspect it too is under water:

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:23:28pm

Carved Gemstones Embed Intricate Patterns from Ancient Symbols, Architecture, and Nature
thisiscolossal.com

Fractals, grids, religious symbols, and ancient architecture are among the eclectic patterns translated into elaborately engraved gemstones by Bryan D. Drummond. The Las Vegas-based artist carves naturally occurring motifs and geometric designs into jewels like blue topaz, citrine, and tourmaline, adding depth to the glimmering surfaces. …

If I was into jewelry, this would sure be on my list.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:25:07pm

re: #128 William Lewis

Here I must say that I have more symapthy with them than with the contract soldiers. But my sympathy is limited. There’s always prison as the alternative to murdering Ukrainians.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:25:10pm

re: #130 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Speaking of Cape Coral:

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DodgerFan1988  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:27:12pm

Comrade Charlie parroting the Kremlin line.

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:27:21pm

re: #129 retired cynic

Ehm. Do I understand it correctly that Hayes is advocating for giving up to the Russian fascism?

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:28:54pm

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EPR-radar  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:30:35pm

re: #135 Nyet

Ehm. Do I understand it correctly that Hayes is advocating for giving up to the Russian fascism?

It sure looks that way. So Hayes is a natural born appeaser or is paid to be that way.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:30:37pm

re: #134 DodgerFan1988

Comrade Charlie parroting the Kremlin line.

Pregnant women are suffering and guns are everywhere. Who the fuck cares about Nordstream with regard to the midterms?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:32:07pm

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

Russian assets?

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Nyet  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:35:10pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

Well, in that case let him fuck himself sideways (with a rusty chainsaw).

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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:37:44pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

It sure looks that way. So Hayes is a natural born appeaser or is paid to be that way.

Or he’s scared of a nuclear exchange.

You know, the coercive force that’s the reason that a tiny number of national operators could play proxy war games on the rest of the world?

Like, the actual lesson of the Cold War is that nuclear weapons threaten simply by existing, by being the bottom floor of what is possible in any international crisis. They’re terror weapons and always have been: either using them is an atrocity or the user has adopted an understanding of total war so broad that atrocity does not exist.

I’m not surprised that people are individually, or collectively, terrified, and coming to conclusions I disagree with.

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EPR-radar  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:39:18pm

re: #141 The Ghost of a Flea

Or he’s scared of a nuclear exchange.

You know, the coercive force that’s the reason that a tiny number of national operators could play proxy war games on the rest of the world?

Like, the actual lesson of the Cold War is that nuclear weapons threaten simply by existing, by being the bottom floor of what is possible in any international crisis. They’re terror weapons and always have been: either using them is an atrocity or the user has adopted an understanding of total war so broad that atrocity does not exist.

I’m not surprised that people are individually, or collectively, terrified.

Being scared is no excuse for objectively stupid thinking that can only increase the risk.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:40:13pm

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

Pregnant women are suffering and guns are everywhere. Who the fuck cares about Nordstream with regard to the midterms?

If it’s leaking oil into waters, isn’t it a potential environmental catastrophe?

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:42:09pm

re: #135 Nyet

Ehm. Do I understand it correctly that Hayes is advocating for giving up to the Russian fascism?

He’s done dumb shit like that in the past.

He lost credibility with me years ago.

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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:42:17pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

If it’s leaking oil into waters, isn’t it a potential environmental catastrophe?

Charlie doesn’t care about that.

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EPR-radar  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:43:46pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

If it’s leaking oil into waters, isn’t it a potential environmental catastrophe?

It’s a natural gas pipeline, not an oil pipeline. Stupidly dumping excess methane into the atmosphere is idiotic because of the climate change crisis (although I don’t think the numbers from a single leak like this have planetary significance).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:44:12pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

If it’s leaking oil into waters, isn’t it a potential environmental catastrophe?

Absolutely, but it’s off the European coast. I just can’t see how that has much bearing on the American mid-terms.

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Dopamine Fish  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:44:21pm

re: #138 Eclectic Cyborg

Pregnant women are suffering and guns are everywhere. Who the fuck cares about Nordstream with regard to the midterms?

They’re trying to make it a thing because they’re desperate to distract from just how fucking awful they are.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:45:15pm

re: #135 Nyet

Ehm. Do I understand it correctly that Hayes is advocating for giving up to the Russian fascism?

I don’t read it that way. But I have a cold (not covid, but I feel like crap). I think he’s asking to make the case for any course of action.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:45:42pm

Ron Desantis: The worst of the storm has passed.

No, really. He just said that.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:52:25pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis: The worst of the storm has passed.

No, really. He just said that.

Also is asking for donations.

The new America is crowd funded.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:52:59pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

Ron Desantis: The worst of the storm has passed.

No, really. He just said that.

NAS in Jacksonville will be relieved to hear that.

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EPR-radar  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:53:12pm

re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t read it that way. But I have a cold (not covid, but I feel like crap). I think he’s asking to make the case for any course of action.

I don’t think that interpretation can work, since his call for activism is immediately preceded by his statement that he thinks appeasement is best.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:53:49pm

re: #151 HRH Stanley Sea

Also is asking for donations.

The new America is crowd funded.

Nah, Ron just spent all the extra money on planes for migrants.

/

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:55:46pm

re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To

I don’t read it that way. But I have a cold (not covid, but I feel like crap). I think he’s asking to make the case for any course of action.

My sister and BIL have had colds for the past week — they repeatedly have tested negative and no one around them became ill so they are confident it really is just a cold. After 3 weeks, I finally tested negative today so am hoping I am finally done with COVID but that will depend on whether tomorrow will confirm today’s results.

I am disappointed in Chris; his suggestion that we stop arming Ukraine seems designed to lead them into defeat. The issue of what to do in the face of nuclear blackmail is real; we’ve never previously had to confront such a possible outcome with a desperate actor who has such weaponry and who is losing his war of choice.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:56:15pm

So, let’s move on from nuclear terrorism, defense ration, and pipeline destruction into something worse

I been watching You on Netflix; I’ve only just started season 2 and while I intellectually get psychological horror shows, this one is evil.

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BeenHereAwhile  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:56:45pm

re: #154 Eclectic Cyborg

Nah, Ron just spent all the extra money on planes for migrants.

/

I imagine there’s more than a few folk in the Sarasota - Ft Meyers area who would rather be in Martha’s Vineyard.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 28, 2022 • 2:58:44pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle must be British. It’s complaining about the weather again.

Click to Reveal

Many birbies likely. For me the 50:50 fell the wrong way.

Wordle 467 4/6

⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟨🟩🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

SibData: 3,3,4,4,4

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:04:43pm

Traditional Sunday roast dinner but on a Wednesday

roast beef, yorkshire pud, and sprouts.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:06:26pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Traditional Sunday roast dinner but on a Wednesday

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roast beef, yorkshire pud, and sprouts.

I’m making goulash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:07:47pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:11:08pm

re: #160 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

I’m making goulash.

we are stuffed like the proverbial ticks right now…I was so hungry, that’s why the pic is kinda blurry.
I was in a FEED ME SEYMOUR frame of mind.

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A Cranky One  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:13:46pm

re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth

Looks better than what I’m preparing.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:14:14pm
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nines09  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:14:50pm

re: #129 retired cynic

And right there is the reason you will never have the press on your side.
Chris fucking Hayes…..
Jesus Fucking Christ.
“They just want the Sudetenland. Can’t we understand? That’s all.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:14:54pm

re: #163 A Cranky One

Looks better than what I’m preparing.

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SO, what you’re saying is that Ripley’s to dinner…

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William Lewis  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:15:25pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Traditional Sunday roast dinner but on a Wednesday

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roast beef, yorkshire pud, and sprouts.

Beef stew & some bread. Store bought apple pie for dessert.

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A Cranky One  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:16:03pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oops

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nines09  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:19:22pm

re: #163 A Cranky One

You need to show up at the door screaming with that on your face with blood all over the front of you on Halloween.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:19:37pm

re: #167 William Lewis

Beef stew & some bread. Store bought apple pie for dessert.

Wife is oft to a funeral out of state, child number two is off with the girlfriend. I’m ordering Thai.

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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:21:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:21:33pm
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jaunte  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:22:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:26:47pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:27:31pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

Being scared is no excuse for objectively stupid thinking that can only increase the risk.

And the point of a terror weapon is to put people into a mental place where compliance seems safer.

I’m not agreeing with Hayes, but I don’t think the tweet merits the intensity.

I’m also being a two very specific kinds of dickhead:

On one hand I’m gesturing towards the fact that Americans are suddenly having to negotiate the kind of fear they used to inflict on others. I find it interesting because it appears to be yet another demonstration that fascism is the violence of the imperial periphery returning to the core. Cold War fear of annihilation was textured by MAD; we’re now in a different era where limited nuclear exchange is feasible, the hegemonies aren’t clear. The whole strikes me as half a sigma from the bell curve of “well, I didn’t expect the face-eating leopards to eat my face.”

On the other I’m pointing out that social media is built to create endless chains of reaction, and does so via the twin engines of (1) being a shitty media in which it’s easy to misread, decontexualize a statement, or attribute the quality of truth to something said casually because everyone’s responding fast in what’s effectively a room of shouting attention-seekers, (2) specifically providing people with shit to be upset about.

The tweet Hayes is responding to is doing some tedious moralizing about another response to something else that amounts to boomer griping: “look at these tweeting kids how indifferent they are to nuclear war, aren’t they dumb and can’t solve all our problems.” Hayes is going a personal vector of “I guess the only thing we could do is…” in response to that initial thought-smear; it’s not a smart response (the smart response being to delete Twitter) but it’s pertinent to the constrained hypothetical moralized the boor has stated: this is a possible “do something” the US could do.

His next tweet is the qualifier that it’s not a good idea.

It’s just…not worth the energy to condemn because it’s just parsing one tweet—and that tweet reveals something far more interesting since it’s actually an unintentionally revelatory response demonstrating how nuclear terror functions and how Americans just kind of haven’t digested the reality that somebody could get nuked for, like, piddly little nothing. The boomer-brain he’s responding to is still thinking in Cold War terms where the it’s all grand ideological motives and the bad guy gives a shit about their nation and also assumes they’ll be second strike; we’re in a brave new world of Dudes with Nukes Who Say They’ll Do First Strike and people are not going to react well.

Mind you, none of that is interesting as the other Americans who are really excited by the idea of showing naked dominance through nukes and thus still like and “understand” Putin…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:34:26pm

can confirm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:35:12pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:35:52pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

Biggest fear with my 93-yo mother

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:36:58pm

re: #178 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Biggest fear with my 93-yo mother

reason #1 why I really hate “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” jokes.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:38:35pm

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

reason #1 why I really hate “I’ve fallen and can’t get up” jokes.

Never really thought about that, but you’re right.

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The Pie Overlord!  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:40:00pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

Traditional Sunday roast dinner but on a Wednesday

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roast beef, yorkshire pud, and sprouts.

I had roast beef sandwich from holiday leftovers.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:40:16pm

re: #102 Captain Ron

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:42:41pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

…..
I’m not agreeing with Hayes, but I don’t think the tweet merits the intensity.

……..
His next tweet is the qualifier that it’s not a good idea.

……

Hayes next tweet was:

I think there are also some pretty thorny long term arms control issues around that course, independent of what it would mean for Ukrainians. You don’t *really* want to incentive threatening nukes as a means of winning conflicts or annexing territory more broadly.

I think he should have also said that he was retracting his suggestion that American stop arming Ukraine.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:44:03pm
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Belafon  Sep 28, 2022 • 3:44:29pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Sep 28, 2022 • 4:02:25pm

re: #137 EPR-radar

It sure looks that way. So Hayes is a natural born appeaser or is paid to be that way.

If you’re going to define public figures, people who produce hours of speech every week, by one tweet lifted out of all they’ve said in the last six months, why not this one for Chris Hayes: “Putin is a monster.”

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retired cynic  Sep 28, 2022 • 4:10:31pm

re: #186 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

If you’re going to define public figures, people who produce hours of speech every week, by one tweet lifted out of all they’ve said in the last six months, why not this one for Chris Hayes: “Putin is a monster.”

I posted that for the immortal words of our friend, Goddamned Frank. Not to get us all to hate on Chris Hayes. But here we are anyway.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 28, 2022 • 4:16:30pm

re: #187 retired cynic

I posted that for the immortal words of our friend, Goddamned Frank. Not to get us all to hate on Chris Hayes. But here we are anyway.

It’s not like Chris Hayes hasn’t spouted off with some not-so-acceptable opinion in the past.

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austin_blue  Sep 28, 2022 • 4:52:57pm

re: #60 A Cranky One

Oh noes.

Guess I’ll have to find alternate entertainment. Maybe play some guitar with friends.

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Kaiju!

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The Reverend Sam Hill  Sep 28, 2022 • 5:35:21pm

re: #2 Crush White Nationalism

Martha’s Vineyard is not especially affluent. A lot of well-off people have vacation homes there, but the people who live there have incomes below the state average — and have to deal with high housing costs.

Ron DeSantis dumped on working class people. But that’s what Fascists Republicans do.

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The Reverend Sam Hill  Sep 28, 2022 • 5:40:01pm

re: #134 DodgerFan1988


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