Video: Legal Analyst: Re-Arresting FBI Ex-Informant Highlights How 'Terrified' Prosecutors Are

Video: Legal Analyst: Re-Arresting FBI Ex-Informant Highlights How ‘Terrified’ Prosecutors Are

PoliticsFebruary 2024 • Views: 11,940

Here’s the latest news on Alexander Smirnov, the former FBI informant who was trumpeted by the Republican Party as a “bombshell witness” in their attempted impeachment of President Biden — until he was found to be lying.

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CNN legal analyst Elie Honig calls the re-arrest of Alexander Smirnov, an ex-FBI informant who lied about President Joe Biden, “unprecedented” and breaks down the seriousness of his re-arrest, calling it a “black eye” for the FBI. #CNN #News

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131 comments

Belafon Feb 23, 2024 • 11:07:10am

And why is the rearrest a black eye?

PhillyPretzel ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 11:08:41am

re: #1 Belafon

I have no idea.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 11:10:24am

re: #591 Teddy’s Person

I’ve been pondering Trump’s VP pick. He will pick some version of Mike Pence. Someone who won’t have more press coverage than his orangeness would be his first priority in picking a running mate.

As far is picking a woman or person of color, I think that’s a non-starter in Trump’s addled brain. I might be giving him too much credit, but I assume he understands that the VP could potentially replace him. No way does he want to give the impression that a woman or person of color could replace him.

Pence was basically Reek in Trumpworld (until Jan. 6), but at least he’s a white man.

replace him assumes he’d consider himself vulnerable and mortal
Not that you’re wrong

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 11:10:37am

re: #1 Belafon

Because they never should have listened the guy and started this prosecution of Hunter Biden. It was all bogus and based on Russian agitprop.

It was a Russian election interference effort, and the FBI fell for it, as did every last motherfucking GOPer in Congress that could get their hands on it - especially Comer, Jordan, and the truly Trumpers.

The FBI should be looking at investigating everyone up and down the chain of command who allowed this “informant” to spread this BS, amplified his BS, and even look at the prosecutor himself for misconduct.

PhillyPretzel ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 11:11:37am

re: #4 lawhawk

I understand.

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 11:13:51am

re: #4 lawhawk

Yeah, they got hoodwinked pretty badly, and it makes them look foolish, to say the least.

Some props for quickly re-arresting the guy, correctly realizing this guy was an enormous flight risk.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 11:14:09am

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 11:15:11am

re: #3 Dangerman

replace him assumes he’d consider himself vulnerable and mortal
Not that you’re wrong

That’s the part that I have trouble including in my thinking. I imagine narcissists don’t spend much time contemplating their mortality.

Anytime I try to come up with a person, my mind goes to motherfucking Jared. Not sure why. Maybe Trump has admiration for the dude banging his daughter?

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 11:16:56am

re: #8 Teddy’s Person

That’s the part that I have trouble including in my thinking. I imagine narcissists don’t spend much time contemplating their mortality.

Anytime I try to come up with a person, my mind goes to motherfucking Jared. Not sure why. Maybe Trump has admiration for the dude banging his daughter?

And getting the Saudis to cough up $2,000,000,000.

Florida Panhandler Feb 23, 2024 • 11:17:44am

This “black eye” arrest is going to turn out be the lynchpin for getting a lot of Trump ass-licking criminal accomplices out of the FBI and other Federal agencies.

It will also be the evidence and witness used to launch a massive massive lawsuit from the Biden family against Fox News, numerous right wing toadie outlets, and individual Republican Congress monsters whose only purpose in life is to spread cruelty and empower liars, thieves and cowards.

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 11:18:56am

re: #591 Teddy’s Person

Who will Trump annoint to be his running mate?

Whomever kisses his ass the most.

Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 11:20:27am

re: #11 Joe Bacon ✅

Who will Trump annoint to be his running mate?

Whomever kisses his ass the most.

JD Vance has the right mix of servile toady cringe

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 11:20:59am

Other legal news:

There’s a status conference involving Trump and the 1/6 insurrection. It’s a civil trial, and Judge Mehta is overseeing that case. He’s hoping to streamline proceedings by getting the sides to stipulate to certain facts, especially regarding tweets, the statements at the Ellipsis, etc.

Per Klasfeld on Twitter.

BeachDem Feb 23, 2024 • 11:23:28am

And speaking of heartless, disgusting pigs—

Russian authorities sharply increased the pressure on Alexei Navalny’s mother on Friday to agree to bury him in a quiet, private funeral — issuing her a three-hour ultimatum and threatening to inter him on the grounds of the prison colony where he died suddenly last week, a former top aide to the late opposition leader said…

Navalnaya, 69, insisted on her legal right to claim her son’s body from the morgue in the Arctic city of Salekhard, where it has been held for more than a week, and to bring him to Moscow for burial.

This week, she signed his death certificate, in which authorities said Navalny died of “natural causes.” His family and his team say he was murdered and that authorities have withheld the body to cover up the evidence.
washingtonpost.com

Natural causes, uh huh, pull the other one.

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 11:24:29am

re: #12 Scottish Dragon

JD Vance has the right mix of servile toady cringe

JD is a real fartsnorter but I think Trump is gonna go for someone who is even more of an asshole like Gym Shorts.

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 11:25:40am

re: #12 Scottish Dragon

JD Vance has the right mix of servile toady cringe

Hand not thought about him. Man. ✅ White.✅ Servile.✅ Toady.✅

And also the right mix of elite education for the money people and hillbilly appeal for the run of the mill MAGA.

He checks the right boxes.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Feb 23, 2024 • 11:27:39am

Wonder if Trump will drop Ted Cruz’ name a few times in the lead up to the selection simply to troll him.
//

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 11:28:20am

re: #15 Joe Bacon ✅

JD is a real fartsnorter but I think Trump is gonna go for someone who is even more of an asshole like Gym Shorts.

Yeah, but does Gym grab too many headlines? Trump needs him a Mr. Cellophane.

Chicago - Mr. Cellophane

danarchy Feb 23, 2024 • 11:28:31am

re: #13 lawhawk

Other legal news:

There’s a status conference involving Trump and the 1/6 insurrection. It’s a civil trial, and Judge Mehta is overseeing that case. He’s hoping to streamline proceedings by getting the sides to stipulate to certain facts, especially regarding tweets, the statements at the Ellipsis, etc.

Per Klasfeld on Twitter.

Other other legal news Trump’s team has filed an analysis of Nathan Wade’s cell phone data that potentially shows Wade and Willis lied about when their relationship began. Not sure how the defense team got the cell tower records, seems like something you would need a subpoena for.

11alive.com

EPR-radar Feb 23, 2024 • 11:29:12am

re: #16 Teddy’s Person

Hand not thought about him. Man. ✅ White.✅ Servile.✅ Toady.✅

And also the right mix of elite education for the money people and hillbilly appeal for the run of the mill MAGA.

He checks the right boxes.

JD Vance is a wholly owned tool of Peter Thiel. So Trump would have to cut a deal with Thiel to use Vance as his VP meat-puppet.

Ace Rothstein Feb 23, 2024 • 11:31:10am

re: #12 Scottish Dragon

JD Vance has the right mix of servile toady cringe

He looks like a foosball player. (I heard that somewhere and can’t stop laughing)

Jay C Feb 23, 2024 • 11:31:31am

re: #16 Teddy’s Person

Had not thought about [JD Vance]: Man. ✅ White.✅ Servile.✅ Toady.✅

And also the right mix of elite education for the money people and hillbilly appeal for the run of the mill MAGA.

He checks the right boxes.

To which we should add that indispensable attribute in TrumpWorld:

Nasty Asshole ✅

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 11:32:16am

Alabama hospitals and reproductive care centers closing their IVF facilities because of the threat of lawsuits, ending hopes of AL residents trying to have children because of the asinine decision handled down by the Christian fascist state supreme court.

They’ll chase away any competent health care providers and professionals, because who would want to work in a state where caring for women could land you in prison. The people who’ll suffer the most are the women and families seeking IVF treatment in the state who cannot afford to move out of the state to get care.

There’s a reason that AL is among the worst states to live for education outcomes, health care outcomes, maternal life expectancy, etc.

The fascist GOP are intent on making lives worse for all residents.

Meanwhile, the NRSC sent out a statement to senators on how to “navigate” the AL IVF decision, and it’s as asinine and backwards as you’d expect from the lying propagandists running that GOP org. They just want to keep lying about how they support IVF, all while they back far more extreme anti-abortion methods that formed the basis of the anti-IVF outcome we saw.

Every last motherfucking GOPer is out to control women. They want to deny them agency over their bodies. They want to limit their reproductive care options. They want to limit their ability to have children. They want to limit their ability to have housing/food/education. They are doing everything possible to roll back decades of progress on civil and human rights.

Because GOPers in power want to accumulate power in the handful of rich white guys who run the party. They’ll lie and rely on a bigoted base that buys in to every conspiracy theory and lie thrown their way, even if the GOP acts against the base’s own interests (like with the infrastructure bill, CARES act, etc.)

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 11:34:46am

re: #19 danarchy

The proof that they talked to each other isn’t proof of anything than they had conversations. That’s it.

And it’s likely illegally obtained, and the judge should throw it out as inadmissible, referring the matter to the FBI/state police.

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 11:34:46am

re: #19 danarchy

Not sure how the defense team got the cell tower records, seems like something you would need a subpoena for.

Yeah…that thought occurred to me as well. If I were a judge, I’d be asking, “Excuse me? And how exactly did you come by this evidence?”

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 11:34:50am

re: #20 EPR-radar

JD Vance is a wholly owned tool of Peter Thiel. So Trump would have to cut a deal with Thiel to use Vance as his VP meat-puppet.

More and more people are saying Trump is excellent at making deals. He’s got an art to it so to speak. Doable.

Ace Rothstein Feb 23, 2024 • 11:35:27am

LOL, it was Bob Cesca.

BlueSpotinAL ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 11:38:02am

David defeating the Ammonites

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 11:41:24am

re: #28 BlueSpotinAL ✅

David defeating the Ammonites

And many hideous, eldritch abominations from the vast gulfs of infinity were slaughtered that day.

ckkatz Feb 23, 2024 • 11:42:22am

re: #14 BeachDem

One para from the cited WaPo article:

On Thursday, Navalnaya said one investigator had threatened that if she did not agree to a secret burial, her son’s body would be allowed to decompose.

ckkatz Feb 23, 2024 • 11:43:55am

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

I was thinking seafood!

Then realized that it probably wasn’t Kosher.

BeachDem Feb 23, 2024 • 11:43:56am

re: #30 ckkatz

One para from the cited WaPo article:

Utterly gross (Trump’s hero)

danarchy Feb 23, 2024 • 11:47:26am

re: #24 lawhawk

The proof that they talked to each other isn’t proof of anything than they had conversations. That’s it.

And it’s likely illegally obtained, and the judge should throw it out as inadmissible, referring the matter to the FBI/state police.

If you read the actual document it seems like more than just talking. In one instance Willis calls Wade at 11:30pm at which point his phone moves from the his residence to her condo, is stationarty there until 5am and then goes back to his residence. I mean, that’s a booty call if I’ve ever seen one, and it happened months before he was hired as special prosecutor.

wether the tower and call records were obtained legally or not I have no idea.

Belafon Feb 23, 2024 • 11:54:00am

re: #33 danarchy

And, once again, this is relevant to the prosecution of this case how?

Dave In Austin Feb 23, 2024 • 11:55:32am

re: #28 BlueSpotinAL ✅

David defeating the Ammonites

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I consider this one of the better things I’ve seen on the intertubes today.

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 11:56:22am

re: #34 Belafon

And, once again, this is relevant to the prosecution of this case how?

The aim is to discredit and question her judgment.

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 11:56:54am

re: #33 danarchy

But how they got hold of the cell tower/call records is what I don’t get. Doesn’t that normally require a subpoena or a warrant?

I’m pretty sure some jabroni can’t just walk in off the street to Verizon or T-Mobile and say, “Hey, buddy - I need ya to pull up the records for (phone number) and print those off for me. Capiche?”

danarchy Feb 23, 2024 • 11:58:09am

re: #34 Belafon

And, once again, this is relevant to the prosecution of this case how?

As far as I am concerned it isn’t, except that now they have both testified under oath that the relationship didn’t begin until after Wade was hired as a special councel, and if the judge determines they perjured themselves I don’t see how the case doesn’t get handed to someone else.

Mike Lamb Feb 23, 2024 • 11:59:52am

re: #38 danarchy

As far as I am concerned it isn’t, except that now they have both testified under oath that the relationship didn’t begin until after Wade was hired as a special councel, and if the judge determines they perjured themselves I don’t see how the case doesn’t get handed to someone else.

Ya. It would be real bad based on their testimony.

Semper Fi Feb 23, 2024 • 12:00:12pm

re: #17 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wonder if Trump will drop Ted Cruz’ name a few times in the lead up to the selection simply to troll him.
//

That’s mean but I like it.
Nobody more deserving than Cruz.

GlutenFreeJesus Feb 23, 2024 • 12:02:28pm

Well. Having sex with someone doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a relationship. But at this point, that’s just splitting hairs.

danarchy Feb 23, 2024 • 12:04:06pm

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

But how they got hold of the cell tower/call records is what I don’t get. Doesn’t that normally require a subpoena or a warrant?

I’m pretty sure some jabroni can’t just walk in off the street to Verizon or T-Mobile and say, “Hey, buddy - I need ya to pull up the records for (phone number) and print those off for me. Capiche?”

Yeah I don’t get it either, but the filing says they are submitting “Certified AT&T records” Not sure how you get certified records if it is done illegally though

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:05:41pm

re: #42 danarchy

Yeah I don’t get it either, but the filing says they are submitting “Certified AT&T records” Not sure how you get certified records if it is done illegally though

Oh if Gym Shorts and Comer Pyle had anything to do with that…

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 12:06:30pm

re: #42 danarchy

Yeah I don’t get it either, but the filing says they are submitting “Certified AT&T records” Not sure how you get certified records if it is done illegally though

Then I’d respectfully suggest the judge in this case needs to ask some very pointed questions as to exactly how they got those “certified AT&T records”.

Charles Johnson Feb 23, 2024 • 12:08:08pm

Mastodon

Trump supports availability of IVF, thereby guaranteeing it will be on the chopping block if he’s elected.

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:09:09pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Trump supports availability of IVF, thereby guaranteeing it will be on the chopping block if he’s elected.

Ha!

Fat chance that’s gonna happen!

wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 12:09:49pm

re: #41 GlutenFreeJesus

Well. Having sex with someone doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a relationship. But at this point, that’s just splitting hairs.

Those hairs were split in the testimony. She said there was still relationship after the sex ended. He said the relationship ended when the sex ended.

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 12:10:29pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Well, that’s quite the pickle for the Alabama GOP, isn’t it? Now they’ll have to choose which god they worship.

The God of the Bible…or the God of the MAGA cult.

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 12:12:03pm

re: #46 Joe Bacon ✅

Every last one of the Christian fascists he put on the bench has every reproductive care option on the chopping block, because they believe that life begins at conception.

Their religious beliefs contradict medical science as well as other religious beliefs (such as Judaism). Therefore, limiting IVF is a violation of my 1A right. It is an unconscionable restriction of medical care that should be available based on my religious beliefs.

Trump doesn’t care what happens with IVF or reproductive care. He continues to seek and get support of the Christian fascists, and they got the judges they wanted. They will continue to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else through judicial fiat.

Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 12:13:07pm

re: #28 BlueSpotinAL ✅

David defeating the Ammonites

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And the Burgess Shale fauna did rise from lightless depths and seek the dwelling places of Kenshereem and Bekaleth to bring the gifts of Dagon to the dwellers
who grew hideous of aspect. And God spake unto David and commanded him to raise an army of Israel. The people of Israel rejoiced and many spears were cast by the sons of Benjamin and Caleb to expel the fauna back. Dagon spread many unclean offerings to the unfaithful, who became as fishmen themselves and turned away from God with bulging eyes and wet skin, but David heeded their croaking not and truly they received their reward.

aatharuv Feb 23, 2024 • 12:13:49pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Trump supports availability of IVF, thereby guaranteeing it will be on the chopping block if he’s elected.

We know he’s only saying this because he has to reach out to those on the fringe of support and prevent them from either not voting, or voting for Biden.

EstebanTornado1963 Feb 23, 2024 • 12:15:52pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

He didn’t write that. Somebody else wrote that and dt read it and did random capitalizations.

Charles Johnson Feb 23, 2024 • 12:16:06pm

Trump knows the US media will take his “I support IVF” statements at face value without a hint of skepticism, and start another round of BS about him “moderating” his positions on women’s rights.

After being found liable for rape, of course.

Dr Lizardo Feb 23, 2024 • 12:16:54pm

Time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards and stay healthy.

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:17:05pm

Awwwww Somebody’s Fee Fees are hurt!

yahoo.com

Bill Ackman Makes New Threats Against Business Insider Over Articles Accusing His Wife of Plagiarism

Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 12:18:15pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Trump knows the US media will take his “I support IVF” statements at face value without a hint of skepticism, and start another round of BS about him “moderating” his positions on women’s rights.

After being found liable for rape, of course.

The ppl around Trump know that the anti IVF/contraceptives kick is absolutely poisonous in a general election

darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:19:07pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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Trump supports availability of IVF, thereby guaranteeing it will be on the chopping block if he’s elected.

Alabama will give him credit for the legislation they are already desperately trying to write to dig themselves out of this hole.

BlueSpotinAL ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:19:39pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon ✅

Awwwww Somebody’s Fee Fees are hurt!

yahoo.com

Bill Ackman Makes New Threats Against Business Insider Over Articles Accusing His Wife of Plagiarism

What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander’s goose.

lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 12:20:05pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Trump’s a guy that most people believe probably paid for a bunch of abortions, but he also supported installing Christian fascists on the courts to push extreme anti abortion positions that would guarantee that they’d roll back Roe. They’d also rule against reproductive health.

That’s the problem.

He can say something like “I support IVF services” but his actions show he’s far more devious and cruel. The media cant’ be bothered to dig into this, because both sides and all.

The GOP is all in on anti-abortion, despite the latest claims by some GOPers claiming support for IVF services (which is impossible to reconcile given that they believe life begins at conception). The AL SCT took this to their logical conclusion, and it reveals just how debased the right wing Christian fascist GOP are - and their goal is to keep rolling back women’s rights.

sizzzzlerz Feb 23, 2024 • 12:20:18pm

re: #48 Dr Lizardo

Well, that’s quite the pickle for the Alabama GOP, isn’t it? Now they’ll have to choose which god they worship.

The God of the Bible…or the God of the MAGA cult.

I think that we all know the answer to that one

Charles Johnson Feb 23, 2024 • 12:22:06pm

re: #56 Scottish Dragon

The ppl around Trump know that the anti IVF/contraceptives kick is absolutely poisonous in a general election

Right, because unlike most of their evil policies, eliminating IVF mostly hurts middle/upper class women.

TedStriker Feb 23, 2024 • 12:25:36pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

Right, because unlike most of their evil policies, eliminating IVF mostly hurts middle/upper class women.

And, just a guess, it hurts mostly white middle/upper-class women, which puts a bit of a dent in the nativist bigots’ “we need more white, Christian babies!” talking point.

Hence, why I’m sure that Stephen Miller has his arm up Trump’s ass to make a statement on this, because I doubt Trump would give two squirts of piss otherwise

Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:25:57pm

Aw shit…

New Records Show Supreme Court’s Sonia Sotomayor Took Unusual Step Of Traveling With A Medic

huffpost.com

Teddy's Person Feb 23, 2024 • 12:26:57pm

re: #55 Joe Bacon ✅

Awwwww Somebody’s Fee Fees are hurt!

yahoo.com

Bill Ackman Makes New Threats Against Business Insider Over Articles Accusing His Wife of Plagiarism

Poor Bill opened a Pandora’s Box of plagiarism and the chickens came home to roost. Something, something, glass houses…

What I’ve read, his wife plagiarized Wikipedia which tells me all I need to know about the Mrs. Ackman’s scholarly acumen.

GlutenFreeJesus Feb 23, 2024 • 12:28:23pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

Those hairs were split in the testimony. She said there was still relationship after the sex ended. He said the relationship ended when the sex ended.

But when did it begin?

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lawhawk Feb 23, 2024 • 12:31:40pm

re: #61 Charles Johnson

1 in 10 women have sought fertility services according to Pew. But just 2% of those who sought fertility services actually went through with IVF (mostly because it’s expensive as heck and most insurers don’t cover it particularly well - or at all).

Also, 1-2% of all births nationwide are result of IVF services.

Families seeking fertility treatment will now face higher costs, loss of providers in states where the GOP are pushing ahead with life at conception laws, and it will actually drive fertility rates down, especially in the South.

KGxvi Feb 23, 2024 • 12:33:05pm

re: #59 lawhawk

Trump’s a guy that most people believe probably paid for a bunch of abortions, but he also supported installing Christian fascists on the courts to push extreme anti abortion positions that would guarantee that they’d roll back Roe. They’d also rule against reproductive health.

That’s the problem.

He can say something like “I support IVF services” but his actions show he’s far more devious and cruel. The media cant’ be bothered to dig into this, because both sides and all.

The GOP is all in on anti-abortion, despite the latest claims by some GOPers claiming support for IVF services (which is impossible to reconcile given that they believe life begins at conception). The AL SCT took this to their logical conclusion, and it reveals just how debased the right wing Christian fascist GOP are - and their goal is to keep rolling back women’s rights.

I don’t think Trump cares about abortion or any social policy. He saw the social conservative/Christian Nationalist movement as something he could exploit for his own gain - so he did. He gave them what they wanted once in office because the issues simply didn’t matter to him, so he could get what he wanted (fame, power, money) without having to give up anything that meant anything to him.

TedStriker Feb 23, 2024 • 12:34:15pm

re: #67 KGxvi

I don’t think Trump cares about abortion or any social policy. He saw the social conservative/Christian Nationalist movement as something he could exploit for his own gain - so he did. He gave them what they wanted once in office because the issues simply didn’t matter to him, so he could get what he wanted (fame, power, money) without having to give up anything that meant anything to him.

I have no doubt that Stephen Miller is the impetus for Trump’s IVF comments.

KGxvi Feb 23, 2024 • 12:36:06pm

re: #68 TedStriker

I have no doubt that Stephen Miller is the impetus for Trump’s IVF comments.

Yeah, Miller is definitely Trump’s Rasputin.

BeenHereAwhile Feb 23, 2024 • 12:37:31pm

re: #25 Dr Lizardo

Yeah…that thought occurred to me as well. If I were a judge, I’d be asking, “Excuse me? And how exactly did you come by this evidence?”

The usual practice is to get raw info from an inside guy at the carrier to perfect the subpoena for cell tower records.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 12:38:22pm

re: #19 danarchy

Other other legal news Trump’s team has filed an analysis of Nathan Wade’s cell phone data that potentially shows Wade and Willis lied about when their relationship began. Not sure how the defense team got the cell tower records, seems like something you would need a subpoena for.

11alive.com

apparently there was a subpoena

how i’d defend it: you’re assuming i must have been everywhere you think my phone was

Patricia Kayden Feb 23, 2024 • 12:38:41pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I’m trying to figure out why anyone would take Trump at his word for any dang thing. He’s a proven liar. The only facts he has told are his first, middle and last name. Everything else he claims is a lie.

Alabama Supreme Court justices effectively banning IVF is the logical conclusion of equating fetuses with babies. I assume SCOTUS, with its rightwing majority, will support Alabama’s decision if it’s appealed.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 12:41:43pm

re: #38 danarchy

As far as I am concerned it isn’t, except that now they have both testified under oath that the relationship didn’t begin until after Wade was hired as a special councel, and if the judge determines they perjured themselves I don’t see how the case doesn’t get handed to someone else.

to split a hair:
lots of people have sex who arent in a ‘relationship’

and then later some are
others never are

(of course depends on how the questions under oath were asked)

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 12:42:06pm

re: #41 GlutenFreeJesus

Well. Having sex with someone doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a relationship. But at this point, that’s just splitting hairs.

damn! i just wrote that!

dangerman never reads ahead.
alas

darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:42:52pm

re: #71 Dangerman

apparently there was a subpoena

how i’d defend it: you’re assuming i must have been everywhere you think my phone was

Aren’t they trying to introduce new evidence after the hearing has ended? You can’t just come back and say, oh, we missed this before!

wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 12:43:56pm

re: #74 Dangerman

damn! i just wrote that!

dangerman never reads ahead.
alas

The only ‘hatchling’ aspect of that is having any concern about it. Scratch the ‘alas’.

PhillyPretzel ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 12:46:49pm

Grr. I just got in from my little driveway. On Wednesday our trash was collected and one bag broke open across the way from me. Today I went out to check my little driveway and someone had tossed the junk onto my grass. I put it into a large trash bag and into my can. Hopefully no one else dumps trash onto my grass.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 12:47:12pm

re: #75 darthstar

Aren’t they trying to introduce new evidence after the hearing has ended? You can’t just come back and say, oh, we missed this before!

of course they can
they just tried to post hoc negotiate the judgement in the NY case

sizzzzlerz Feb 23, 2024 • 12:47:17pm

With regards to the ‘bama SC insane declaration that frozen embryos are people, maybe it is time for people to start ignoring the court and it’s rulings. Once the justice system loses its credibility and starts to make rulings based on religiously motivated rationales, sane people may declare that the court does not speak for them. Is that good for society as a whole? Hell, no, but neither is being forced into one dictated by religious extremists.

Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 12:48:21pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

The only ‘hatchling’ aspect of that is having any concern about it. Scratch the ‘alas’.

i know
i do it all the time
it’s part of my charm (i hope)
like recognizing everyone is not as tall as i thought

darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:49:56pm

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darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:51:00pm

re: #81 darthstar

I know…no apostrophe in COMMAS.

A Cranky One Feb 23, 2024 • 12:51:42pm

Patricia Kayden Feb 23, 2024 • 12:51:50pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

I agree with you except that states like Alabama aren’t going to disobey the dictates of a right wing court. They welcome such decisions.

Belafon Feb 23, 2024 • 12:51:52pm

re: #81 darthstar

Although a good csv dump wraps strings with commas in quotes.

darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:52:25pm

re: #78 Dangerman

of course they can
they just tried to post hoc negotiate the judgement in the NY case

They just need a little more time to whatever.

wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 12:53:12pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

With regards to the ‘bama SC insane declaration that embryos are people, maybe it is time for people to start ignoring the court and it’s rulings. Once the justice system loses its credibility and starts to make rulings based on religiously motivated rationales, sane people may declare that the court does not speak for them. Is that good for society as a whole? Hell, no, but neither is being forced into one dictated by religious extremists.

Doctors would need to risk arrest. They have a lot invested in their doctorhood. The country’s trend is that more doctors are becoming employees of large corporations, and fewer are independent business people.

wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 12:53:42pm

re: #82 darthstar

I know…no apostrophe in COMMAS.

It’s a flying comma.

darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 12:54:18pm

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Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 12:57:32pm

Almost end of the school day

Ace Rothstein Feb 23, 2024 • 12:58:19pm

Q: Why do embryos have rights in Alabama?

A: Because they’re not women yet.

Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 12:59:44pm

re: #90 Scottish Dragon

Almost end of the school day

That gif was a bit too much lmao

Ace Rothstein Feb 23, 2024 • 1:01:57pm

It’s 2024 and Republicans are having to state whether they support IVF or not.

Scottish Dragon Feb 23, 2024 • 1:02:05pm

Ok the uncanny valley ad girls at the bottom of the page are giving me the serious creeps.

wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 1:05:24pm

re: #93 Ace Rothstein

It’s 2024 and Republicans are having to state whether they support IVF or not.

Maybe if they’d started earlier… Lots of IVF babies can vote. And still have moms and dads who can vote.

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 1:05:33pm

re: #94 Scottish Dragon

Ewwww. Ewwww. Ewwww.

jeffreyw Feb 23, 2024 • 1:06:23pm

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retired cynic Feb 23, 2024 • 1:08:20pm

re: #90 Scottish Dragon

I don’t have epilepsy, but that sure blasted my headache!

Belafon Feb 23, 2024 • 1:09:15pm

re: #97 jeffreyw

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If we used it enough, we could turn that into a word.

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retired cynic Feb 23, 2024 • 1:09:24pm

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Joe Bacon ✅ Feb 23, 2024 • 1:09:27pm

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TedStriker Feb 23, 2024 • 1:10:48pm

re: #97 jeffreyw

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wrenchwench Feb 23, 2024 • 1:13:21pm

Needs homeopathic money.

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sizzzzlerz Feb 23, 2024 • 1:20:05pm

re: #87 wrenchwench

Doctors would need to risk arrest. They have a lot invested in their doctorhood. The country’s trend is that more doctors are becoming employees of large corporations, and fewer are independent business people.

I don’t suggest that there isn’t risk involved. Black people risked arrest when they sat at the front of the bus or at the Woolworth’s lunch counter, or tried to go to school, for god’s sake! Look where civil disobedience got them. All I know is that if I were selected for a jury to judge a doctor for disobeying such a ruling, I’d vote not guilty all day long.

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darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 1:20:08pm

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sizzzzlerz Feb 23, 2024 • 1:23:43pm

re: #97 jeffreyw

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Darn it, Jenny, you had one job to do!

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darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 1:24:38pm

Trouble in paradise?

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EPR-radar Feb 23, 2024 • 1:24:53pm

re: #38 danarchy

As far as I am concerned it isn’t, except that now they have both testified under oath that the relationship didn’t begin until after Wade was hired as a special councel, and if the judge determines they perjured themselves I don’t see how the case doesn’t get handed to someone else.

Are we really going to have a repeat of the Bill Clinton blowjob scandal here?

People that lie under oath in Republican fishing expeditions should be getting medals for civic service, not dragged through the mud in scandals.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Feb 23, 2024 • 1:25:32pm

Sad news from Lubbock. Isiac (spelled thusly), a semi-feral tomcat who had been living around the guardshack at an industrial plant SINCE 1998, was found dead this week. There was no obvious cause other than extreme old age. He had reportedly slowed a lot but was still mobile and able to catch birds and rodents right to the end. The receptionist at the plant noticed him as a kitten, started feeding him, and turned the job over to the security director when she retired in 2014. They buried him in a corner of the flowerbed outside the office and reportedly ordered a nice marker.

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darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 1:27:16pm

Happy tick tock mother fucker day to all who celebrate.

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Ace Rothstein Feb 23, 2024 • 1:28:34pm

re: #110 darthstar

Happy tick tock mother fucker day to all who celebrate.

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Good luck getting the money, broke ass hoe.

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Patricia Kayden Feb 23, 2024 • 1:29:37pm

re: #109 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I wish someone had adopted him as a kitten. Sigh.

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Decatur Deb Feb 23, 2024 • 1:30:17pm

re: #110 darthstar

Happy tick tock mother fucker day to all who celebrate.

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There’s a man who really wishes he had hired a very old, very smart, male lawyer.

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darthstar Feb 23, 2024 • 1:33:55pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

There’s a man who really wishes he had hired a very old, very smart, male lawyer.

He always won in court against people who sued him for money because he could out wait them with delays. He just never went up against the state until now (Trump University not withstanding).

Funny how the old tricks don’t work the same with a different audience.

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Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 1:37:55pm

re: #110 darthstar

Happy tick tock mother fucker day to all who celebrate.

Judge Engoron formally says Trump owes $454 million in civil fraud case

30 Day Countdown starts for him to put up the money for appeal

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remember tfg doesnt have to put up the money in order to appeal.
you do that to protect your assets.

if he doesnt, then NYS can go after his (relevant) assets while he appeals.

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Dangerman Feb 23, 2024 • 1:38:35pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

There’s a man who really wishes he had hired a ~~very old~~, very smart, ~~male~~ lawyer.

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cat-tikvah Feb 23, 2024 • 1:40:09pm

Anyone familiar with this organization?
I hope they can make some inroads with their fellow party members.
accountability.gop
this page:
accountability.gop Amen

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GlutenFreeJesus Feb 23, 2024 • 1:43:46pm

Was this posted yet?

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Backwoods Sleuth Feb 23, 2024 • 1:44:17pm

looks like Chinese balloons are back

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Patricia Kayden Feb 23, 2024 • 1:47:43pm

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Feb 23, 2024 • 1:48:12pm

re: #119 Backwoods Sleuth

looks like Chinese balloons are back

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I wonder how this determination is made when the origin and purpose are unknown.

The object has been determined to be non-threatening, but its origin and purpose is unknown.

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Decatur Deb Feb 23, 2024 • 1:49:23pm

re: #116 Dangerman

He’s having poor luck with the legal sorority. The last one thought she was a sea monster.

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Decatur Deb Feb 23, 2024 • 1:50:21pm

re: #121 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I wonder how this determination is made when the origin and purpose are unknown.

It has Mickey Mouse ears.

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Hecuba's daughter Feb 23, 2024 • 1:52:00pm

re: #121 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I wonder how this determination is made when the origin and purpose are unknown.

Suspect it means that it will not be attacking anything directly —- not that it won’t be gathering intel and sending this information to another site that may have hostile intentions.

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Eclectic Cyborg Feb 23, 2024 • 1:57:50pm

re: #121 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

I wonder how this determination is made when the origin and purpose are unknown.

Simple. It’s a Chinese made balloon. U.S. authorities don’t know who launched it or why.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Feb 23, 2024 • 2:08:00pm

re: #125 Eclectic Cyborg

Simple. It’s a Chinese made balloon. U.S. authorities don’t know who launched it or why.

A balloon could drop anything. I’m wondering if there’s a size threshold or something else they use to come to the conclusion that it’s just gathering data.

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Belafon Feb 23, 2024 • 2:08:23pm

A pox on both houses:

NPR did a story about a Gaza blogger who fled south with his family after the Hamas attack on Israel. When the Israeli special forces rescued the two men recently, the Israeli Air Force did a massive bombing campaign as a “distraction” and, in the process, killed his mother, father, brother, and twin nieces. He happened to be sleeping somewhere else that night.

npr.org

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Feb 23, 2024 • 2:13:00pm

The Texas Hair War continues:

Protesters gather near Texas superintendent’s home ahead of trial over Black teen’s dreadlocks

One loctician set up a salon chair and styled protesters’ hair in a show of support for Darryl George, a high school junior who has been suspended for most of the school year.

Yokels reportedly drove by yelling “Go home!” at the protesters.

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jeffreyw Feb 23, 2024 • 2:13:22pm

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Backwoods Sleuth Feb 23, 2024 • 2:32:40pm

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Feb 23, 2024 • 3:24:20pm

re: #37 Dr Lizardo

But how they got hold of the cell tower/call records is what I don’t get. Doesn’t that normally require a subpoena or a warrant?

I’m pretty sure some jabroni can’t just walk in off the street to Verizon or T-Mobile and say, “Hey, buddy - I need ya to pull up the records for (phone number) and print those off for me. Capiche?”

I dunno, it has a Hunter’s laptop vibe to it.

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