Crazy Eyes Bachmann: Obama Peddling ‘Crack Cocaine of Dependency’

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Think real hard. Guess which publication gave Crazy Eyes Bachmann a platform to peddle this nonsense?

In an interview published today on the conspiracy-theory-happy website WorldNetDaily…

We have a winner!!!

“I think the reason is because President Obama can’t wait to get Americans addicted to the crack cocaine of dependency on more government health care.

“Because, once they enroll millions of more individual Americans, it will be virtually impossible for us to pull these benefits back from people,” the congresswoman explained.

“All they want to do is buy love from people by giving them massive government subsidies,” Bachmann summed up.

Hat tip: Right Wing Watch

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378 comments
1 Skip Intro  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 4:25:14pm

I checked how I’d make out under the ACA. Sorry Michelle, but no subsidies for me. I get to pay the full price.

Speaking of massive government subsidies, how’s that $250,000 in federal subsidies for your “family farm” working out for you?

2 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:14:39pm

Yeah, we should just pray to Jay-sus for all our healthcare needs.

3 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:16:50pm

re: #2 Kragar

Yeah, we should just pray to Jay-sus for all our healthcare needs.

Republican Jesus sez, “Fuck you and go get a job, moocher.”

4 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:18:54pm
5 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:20:15pm

Ow! The problem with having high-frequency hearing is that you hear the dog whistles. And they hurt.

And note to whoever does Michele Bachmann’s laundry: You didn’t use enough fabric softener on her Klan Ladies Auxiliary outfit. Again.

6 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:21:20pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

The nerve of the GOP in playing the “voters’s will” card in this confrontation is amazing.

There were collectively fewer votes for GOP house members than for Democratic party house members in 2012.

7 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:21:40pm

Instead of the crack-cocaine dependency of Government healthcare, Americans need the cool, pure water of bankruptcy from medical bills!

8 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:23:01pm

re: #7 GeneJockey

Bankruptcy and such hardships build character!!!!!

Jesus was poor and happy!!!!

//

9 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:23:41pm

I don’t think the government will be providing my healthcare. Kaiser will, just like last year.

10 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:23:42pm

re: #8 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Bankruptcy and such hardships build character!!!!!

Jesus was poor and happy!!!!

//

That’s what Joel Osteen told me!

11 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:23:49pm

re: #6 EPR-radar

The nerve of the GOP in playing the “voters’s will” card in this confrontation is amazing.

There were collectively fewer votes for GOP house members than for Democratic party house members in 2012.

Everyone knows that the great people of Podunk Iowa electing a mouthbreather as their Congressman trumps the nationwide election of the POTUS for what people want for the nation.

12 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:23:55pm

Wow, do I love being able to do traffic school online. I had to go to traffic school a long time ago, pre-Internet, and it was a real drag - an all-day bore-fest.

But today I was able to complete the whole thing in less than 30 minutes, and it’s already electronically filed with the DMV. And it wasn’t super expensive, even with a one-day rush electronic filing.

And I learned SO much about being a safer driver! I am the safest driver on the road now! I will never go 33 in a 25mph zone again, or at least not for about 18 months.

13 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:24:05pm

crack cocaine of dependency

she should read that ‘nickle and dimed’ book on working for minimum wage and try a little reality therapy for herself

seriously i bet the woman has less experience supporting herself on blue collar wages than i do

14 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:24:22pm

re: #8 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Bankruptcy and such hardships build character!!!!!

Jesus was poor and happy!!!!

//

That sounds like Hippie Jesus, not Free Market Jesus.

15 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:25:22pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Wow, do I love being able to do traffic school online. I had to go to traffic school a long time ago, pre-Internet, and it was a real drag - an all-day bore-fest.

But today I was able to complete the whole thing in less than 30 minutes, and it’s already electronically filed with the DMV. And it wasn’t super expensive, even with a one-day rush electronic filing.

And I learned SO much about being a safer driver! I am the safest driver on the road now! I will never go 33 in a 25mph zone again, or at least not for about 18 months.

You’ve also done your bit to keep the economy humming.

16 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:25:40pm

There is a caller into CSPAN right now who is lighting the GOP up. He is a sane and rational person and it’s amazing that he bothered to call CSPAN.

17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:25:58pm

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

18 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:26:02pm

re: #11 Kragar

Everyone knows that the great people of Podunk Iowa electing a mouthbreather as their Congressman trumps the nationwide election of the POTUS for what people want for the nation.

Not to mention that Dems are elected by ‘The Cities’, where people don’t count for as much as REAL Americans - maybe like 3/5 as much…

19 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:26:10pm

That’s how mainstream republicans view the American people. As degenerate, thieving bums.

20 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:26:40pm

People get used to government handouts and never want them to end……just ask the oil companies.

21 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:27:32pm

Good luck, everybody!

22 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:27:53pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

Sounds like a trick question.

23 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:28:04pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

LOL

Whoever wrote that question was perhaps inspired by “Death Race 2000”.

24 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:28:20pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

You get more points that way, true.

25 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:28:35pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

That would have been hard not to give a ‘T’.

Reminds me of the online Sexual Harassment Panda Training I took last year. The answers were so frakkin obvious I wanted to give COMPLETELY the wrong answer just for shits and giggles, but I didn’t want a lecture from HR.

26 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:30:03pm

Since when was playing Frogger part of traffic school?

27 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:31:30pm

Listening to CSPAN, one R-Idiot actually proclaimed the ACA was “dictatorial”. A law passed by both houses of Congress in 2010 and signed by the President. And upheld, as to the part that was challenged, by the Supreme Court.

Yes, so, so dictatorial.

Every single R speaker I heard lied about ACA, in some small way, or in large ones.

When committing malfeasance in office, by lying and general dishonesty, before millions of onlookers, has become a routine way of doing the People’s business, this country is in deep, deep shit.

28 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:31:49pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

nobody ever lets me have any fun

29 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:32:21pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

Half True
-Politifact

30 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:34:02pm

re: #28 dog philosopher

nobody ever lets me have any fun

That question is obviously false, because you’re actually supposed to accelerate toward those people to scatter them, not scare them.

31 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:34:39pm

re: #21 jaunte

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Good luck, everybody!

Finally, mass production of Soylent Green!

32 psddluva4evah  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:35:06pm
33 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:35:53pm

re: #31 Carlos Danger

Finally, mass production of Soylent Green!

There is seriously a company producing a food product called Soylent.

I shit you not.

34 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:35:56pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

In the day, the Army held Driving School on Saturday, taught by the “senior offender present”.

35 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:36:21pm

re: #33 klys

There is seriously a company producing a food product called Soylent.

I shit you not.

What side effects?

36 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:36:40pm

re: #35 jaunte

What side effects?

They didn’t say, and I decline to test.

37 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:36:40pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

The local technique is to slow down, give the pedestrian an encouraging wave across, then accelerate.

38 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:36:45pm

re: #32 psddluva4evah

The GOP has been such a bunch of assholes that the Democrats have actually located their spines. Let’s hope this continues over the next few weeks.

39 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:37:10pm

re: #37 wrenchwench

The local technique is to slow down, give the pedestrian an encouraging wave across, then accelerate.

Too bad francis doesn’t live in NM.

I mean….

40 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:37:24pm

re: #35 jaunte

What side effects?

Uncontrollable urge to overact.

41 Iwouldprefernotto  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:37:34pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

In Grand Theft Auto or for reals?

42 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:37:42pm
43 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:37:44pm

re: #33 klys

There is seriously a company producing a food product called Soylent.

I shit you not.

Which is fine, if you’re 80 and have no teeth left, since it’s a liquid.

44 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:38:03pm

re: #41 Iwouldprefernotto

In Grand Theft Auto or for reals?

Oh, in that case use the tank’s turret.

45 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:38:40pm

re: #21 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Good luck, everybody!

There’s been a name change on that account.

46 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:39:10pm

re: #39 klys

Too bad francis doesn’t live in NM.

I mean….

Now, now….

47 piratedan  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:39:24pm

re: #42 jaunte

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gotta be comforting to know that while you may indeed work at the club, that by no means indicates that you’re actually a member of the club….

48 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:39:33pm

re: #45 wrenchwench

49 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:39:51pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

That question is obviously false, because you’re actually supposed to accelerate toward those people to scatter them, not scare them.

“When pedestrians try to cross,
“I always show them who’s the boss,
“I never blow my horn or give them warning.
“I ride all over town
“Trying to run them down,
“It’s seldom that they’ll live to see the morning,

“Plastic Jesus, Plastic Jesus,
“Riding on the dashboard of my car.
“His halo fits just right,
“And I use it for a sight,
“They’ll scatter or they’ll splatter near and far.”

50 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:40:50pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Now, now….

Sorry mom, I’ll behave.

51 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:41:28pm

re: #47 piratedan

gotta be comforting to know that while you may indeed work at the club, that by no means indicates that you’re actually a member of the club….

A good fraction of these GOP staffers are probably quivering with delight at being abused by their masters, in the hopes that one day they too will become a master entitled to abuse others for the hell of it.

Authoritarians just can’t help themselves, even when they are being abused.

52 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:41:45pm

The Crack cocaine of Dependency.

The Black-tar Heroin of Proper Nutrition for Poor Kids.

The Reefer of Affordable Psychiatric Care.

The Up-tempo Negro Music of Birth Control.

The Shamelessly Revealed Ankles of Multiculturalism

53 alpuz  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:42:39pm

“All they want to do is buy love from people by giving them massive government subsidies,” Bachmann summed up.


google.com

54 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:42:43pm

re: #50 klys

Sorry mom, I’ll behave.

I think The Ghost of a Flea may have run him over anyway.

55 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:43:06pm

Seeing amazing meltdowns from conservatives on various message boards tonight. They’re claiming that they refuse to pay anything, government is gonna have to force them at gunpoint, etc.

56 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:43:24pm

Sing it, Bette!

57 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:43:30pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

A good fraction of these GOP staffers are probably quivering with delight at being abused by their masters, in the hopes that one day they too will become a master entitled to abuse others for the hell of it.

Authoritarians just can’t help themselves, even when they are being abused.

Those assholes probably also think they’re Randian ‘Producers’. I find most ‘Producers’ are one or another kind of symbiont. Usually commensal, sometimes mutualistic, but also sometimes just parasitic.

58 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:43:39pm

re: #48 jaunte

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State Department employees only matter when they can be used as props to attack Obama. Otherwise, they are part of the federal government and therefore evil.

59 piratedan  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:44:36pm

re: #53 alpuz

“All they want to do is buy love from people by giving them massive government subsidies,” Bachmann summed up.

google.com

what’s fun is looking up how much Michie gets in ag subsidies a year…..

60 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:45:03pm

re: #53 alpuz

“All they want to do is buy love from people by giving them massive government subsidies,” Bachmann summed up.

google.com

where, oh where is my magic wand that makes people experience the real life consequences of their propaganda statements?

61 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:45:28pm
62 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:45:29pm

re: #52 The Ghost of a Flea

The Crack cocaine of Dependency.

The Black-tar Heroin of Proper Nutrition for Poor Kids.

The Reefer of Affordable Psychiatric Care.

The Up-tempo Negro Music of Birth Control.

The Shamelessly Revealed Ankles of Multiculturalism

The Krocodil of safe air travel.

The Bath Salts of meat and product inspection.

63 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:45:41pm

Just saw a Mike’s Hard Lemonade ad that said “Mike’s is hard. So is prison. Don’t drink and drive.” Mike’s Hard Lemonade: like prison for your mouth.

64 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:46:32pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

I think The Ghost of a Flea may have run him over anyway.

Nope, he has peeled himself off the pavement.

65 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:46:47pm

From the “Things Not To Say When You’re Making a Mistake” file, we get John Boehner’s latest hit:

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

House Speaker John Boehner sought to blame President Obama’s refusal to negotiate over Obamacare for the looming government shutdown.

“All the president has to do is say yes, and the government is funded tomorrow,” Boehner said on the House floor Monday night.

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

66 Skip Intro  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:47:02pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

But today I was able to complete the whole thing in less than 30 minutes, and it’s already electronically filed with the DMV. And it wasn’t super expensive, even with a one-day rush electronic filing.

Things must have changed since the last time I did it one line. There was a built-in governor that prevented you from going to the next question until a specific amount of time passed. No way to do it in 30 minutes.

67 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:47:57pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

I think The Ghost of a Flea may have run him over anyway.

He’s a zombie. It won’t stop it.

68 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:48:12pm

Rep Jack Kimble - author of “Profiles in Courageousness”

69 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:48:25pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

From the “Things Not To Say When You’re Making a Mistake” file, we get John Boehner’s latest hit:

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

As I recall, Osama bin Ladin also had a specific set of conditions the US could have followed to ensure no further attacks from Al Qaida.

70 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:48:57pm

re: #66 Skip Intro

Things must have changed since the last time I did it one line. There was a built-in governor that prevented you from going to the next question until a specific amount of time passed. No way to do it in 30 minutes.

Cripes, the online Sexual Harassment thing was like that. Every section I finished with at least 6 minutes to spare. You HAD TO take 2 hours. No choice.

71 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:49:14pm

re: #69 EPR-radar

As I recall, Osama bin Ladin also had a specific set of conditions the US could have followed to ensure no further attacks from Al Qaida.

I don’t think healthcare was mentioned in those.

72 piratedan  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:49:17pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

From the “Things Not To Say When You’re Making a Mistake” file, we get John Boehner’s latest hit:

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

as in Yes, I’ve suspended Habeus Corpus and had the entire Republican delegation arrested in the House and Senate for sedition and they’re being transported via UN Black Helicopters to await arraignment for their crimes in a secret FEMA camp that is disguised as a Texas Fertalizer plant. America, I urge you not to seek these people as I have declared them enemies of the United States of America.

73 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:49:35pm

re: #67 klys

He’s a zombie. It won’t stop it.

But if you destroy the brain, that should stop him.

Oh, wait. I think I see a flaw….

74 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:03pm

re: #73 GeneJockey

But if you destroy the brain, that should stop him.

Oh, wait. I think I see a flaw….

WINNAR!!!!!!

75 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:17pm

Later, lizards.

76 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:26pm

re: #70 GeneJockey

Cripes, the online Sexual Harassment thing was like that. Every section I finished with at least 6 minutes to spare. You HAD TO take 2 hours. No choice.

What do you have to do to be sentenced to Online Sexual Harassment training?

77 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:39pm

re: #68 darthstar

Rep Jack Kimble - author of “Profiles in Courageousness”

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FYI, there is no Congressman Jack Kimble

78 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:43pm

Image: 1380392_168768949984144_99610408_n.jpg

79 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:50:50pm

re: #66 Skip Intro

The only timer I saw was on the final exam - you were supposed to complete it within an hour.

80 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:51:08pm
81 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:51:42pm

re: #67 klys

He’s a zombie. It won’t stop it.

I’m not interested in stopping him. He’s entitled to write what he wants. He’s entitled not to use sources. He’s entitled to make balloon animals out of logic “defending” his “ideas.”

And I’m entitled to point out that it’s liking reading political missives from a shoujo anime character writing op-eds about US politics with only FreeRepublic.com and spatters of owl shit as an information source.

82 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:52:02pm

SENTENCES THAT DO NOT ENDEAR YOU TO YOUR SPOUSE:

(spouse): I have avoided mentioning this to you, as I don’t want to think about it myself.
(spouse): I have picked up twice-weekly 9:30a call-in meetings
(spouse): first one is tomorrow

83 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:52:28pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

What do you have to do to be sentenced to Online Sexual Harassment training?

Work for a corporate employer.

84 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:52:43pm

re: #77 b.d.

FYI, there is no Congressman Jack Kimble

Oh yeah…54th district. Ha!

85 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:53:06pm

Tea Party: “America keeps assaulting my fist with its face.”

86 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:53:20pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

What do you have to do to be sentenced to Online Sexual Harassment training?

Got promoted.

When I managed nobody but a Temp, I wasn’t REALLY a manager, but I apparently did it so well that they gave me a group of 5 to manage. With a tiny amount of power, comes great responsibility. Apparently one of these is not to ask your direct reports for sexual favors in exchange for raises and promotions, or simply not being fired.

Who knew?
//////////////////////////

87 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:54:43pm

re: #81 The Ghost of a Flea

I’m not interested in stopping him. He’s entitled to write what he wants. He’s entitled not to use sources. He’s entitled to make balloon animals out of logic “defending” his “ideas.”

And I’m entitled to point out that it’s liking reading political missives from a shoujo anime character writing op-eds about US politics with only FreeRepublic.com and spatters of owl shit as an information source.

Nice analogy. I’m also reminded of an old Vernor Vinge science fiction novel where there was an intergalactic internet, and one of the running jokes in the book was a persistent poster whose thesis was that human behavior could be explained in light of the fact that humans were hexapodal.

88 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:54:50pm

re: #83 klys

Work for a corporate employer.

Pffftt. Was hoping for a cathartic self-revelation.

89 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:55:08pm

re: #86 GeneJockey

You’d be surprised at how many people don’t appear to know this.

90 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:56:16pm

If anyone looks like they’re on crack cocaine, it’s old Crazy Eyes Bachmann.

91 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:56:39pm

Angry dudebros still angry.

92 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:58:58pm

re: #86 GeneJockey

Got promoted.

When I managed nobody but a Temp, I wasn’t REALLY a manager, but I apparently did it so well that they gave me a group of 5 to manage. With a tiny amount of power, comes great responsibility. Apparently one of these is not to ask your direct reports for sexual favors in exchange for raises and promotions, or simply not being fired.

Who knew?
//////////////////////////

Army curriculum was simpler:
1. Keep it in your pants.
2. Don’t shit in your own nest.
3. There are always survivors.

93 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:59:00pm

Sexual Harassment training

i took this but didn’t get any better at sexually harassing anybody

on the plus side, i’m happy to know that “leering” is not a lost art of times long gone by

94 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:59:08pm

re: #91 jaunte

Ohh Noohzz!! All mah Linux distros are belongs to them!!!

95 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 5:59:31pm
96 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:00:28pm

Appears 9 House Dems broke ranks to vote in favor of the GOP’s latest brain fart. No names yet, but I’m guessing they’re all red-staters who are facing reelection next year.

97 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:00:36pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

If the bad guys win the GOP civil war, then we will have Civil War round 2 in a few more years.

98 Mike Lamb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:00pm

She’s got part of it right…once people get the benefits, they can’t pull them back, because people like actually having health insurance. That’s what terrifies the GOP. They become more marginalized…

99 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:04pm

re: #89 calochortus

You’d be surprised at how many people don’t appear to know this.

I know that in academia, undergrads were considered part of the perqs of being a Professor.

I also know that my wife, back before she was my wife, worked for a guy who placed what you’d think would be a rather private call, in a loud voice, with his office door open:

“Hello, San Francisco Sperm Bank? This is [name redacted because I can’t remember it]. Do you have the results of my sperm count?

“Really? Zero? So, you’re saying there’s NO WAY I could get a woman pregnant?

“Okay, thank you. Bye.”

She thought that was really weird. Later in the day, he did it again, in a LOUDER voice.

100 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:07pm
101 Mike Lamb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:30pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

Isn’t the identity of the pedestrian a necessary context to answering correctly?

102 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:42pm

re: #91 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Angry dudebros still angry.

Because copyrights are for little people.
/

103 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:47pm

re: #96 Targetpractice

Appears 9 House Dems broke ranks to vote in favor of the GOP’s latest brain fart. No names yet, but I’m guessing they’re all red-staters who are facing reelection next year.

They didn’t break ranks, they all waited until the bill had passed before voting yea. Pelosi kept them in check right up until it was clear that it wouldn’t do any good.

104 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:01:57pm

re: #98 Mike Lamb

It will be interesting in the future to see what gyrations they go through to pretend they didn’t oppose the ACA.

105 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:02:01pm

re: #87 EPR-radar

Nice analogy. I’m also reminded of an old Vernor Vinge science fiction novel where there was an intergalactic internet, and one of the running jokes in the book was a persistent poster whose thesis was that human behavior could be explained in light of the fact that humans were hexapodal.

If you don’t read Stanislav Lem, you should.

The Star Diaries includes a segment where a human ambassador is brought before a universal congress, only to have a delegate inrevocably demonstrate that human are impossible, as they a pile of mucilage from a planet orbiting a single star, covered in far too much water, have bilateral symmetry, etc.

It goes on at length about the impossibility of human live, and resolves in determining that all biological life on Earth was the product of a malicious prank, with the culprit forced to pay cosmic alimony.

106 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:02:08pm

re: #99 GeneJockey

Sperm count or number of brain cells? You be the judge.

107 compound_Idaho  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:02:18pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Wow, do I love being able to do traffic school online. I had to go to traffic school a long time ago, pre-Internet, and it was a real drag - an all-day bore-fest.

But today I was able to complete the whole thing in less than 30 minutes, and it’s already electronically filed with the DMV. And it wasn’t super expensive, even with a one-day rush electronic filing.

And I learned SO much about being a safer driver! I am the safest driver on the road now! I will never go 33 in a 25mph zone again, or at least not for about 18 months.

I have taken numerous OSHA and MSHA classes online. There is always a time requirement. I could finish an 8 hr refresher in about 30 minutes, but that is unacceptable. You must sit there for 8 hrs. If you don’t page or move the mouse occasionally you get kicked out of the class so no mowing the yard when you are supposed to be training. However, there is no mechanism to see if you have a beer sitting the the desk and the game on.

108 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:02:21pm

re: #99 GeneJockey

I know that in academia, undergrads were considered part of the perqs of being a Professor.

I also know that my wife, back before she was my wife, worked for a guy who placed what you’d think would be a rather private call, in a loud voice, with his office door open:

“Hello, San Francisco Sperm Bank? This is [name redacted because I can’t remember it]. Do you have the results of my sperm count?

“Really? Zero? So, you’re saying there’s NO WAY I could get a woman pregnant?

“Okay, thank you. Bye.”

She thought that was really weird. Later in the day, he did it again, in a LOUDER voice.

I am very grateful to have avoided this in grad school.

109 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:02:30pm

re: #100 Charles Johnson

Godspeed li’l dude!!

110 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:03:22pm

re: #103 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

They didn’t break ranks, they all waited until the bill had passed before voting yea. Pelosi kept them in check right up until it was clear that it wouldn’t do any good.

Yeah, this is what I miss when I don’t watch the vote live and instead get it via TPM, who seem to be trying to decide whether or not they’re gonna give into the “false balance” temptation.

111 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:04:01pm

Dinner calls. BBL

112 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:04:07pm

re: #110 Targetpractice

Yeah, this is what I miss when I don’t watch the vote live and instead get it via TPM, who seem to be trying to decide whether or not they’re gonna give into the “false balance” temptation.

It’s hard to remember all the things that don’t make sense.

113 Mike Lamb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:04:20pm

re: #104 jaunte

It will be interesting in the future to see what gyrations they go through to pretend they didn’t oppose the ACA.

Something similar to what we’re seeing with the Civil Rights Act. They’ll go back to the original Heritage Foundation idea, skip forward 15-20 years, and presto….they’ll have always been at war with ACA-sia.

114 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:05:18pm

re: #113 Mike Lamb

Yep they will point to the original Heritage plan and say that democrats opposed it.

115 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:05:31pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Army curriculum was simpler:
1. Keep it in your pants.
2. Don’t shit in your own nest.
3. There are always survivors.

“Let’s see if I get this straight.
“1. There’s always a nest.
“2. Keep it in the survivors.
“3. Don’t shit in your pants. “

116 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:05:40pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Army curriculum was simpler:
1. Keep it in your pants.
2. Don’t shit in your own nest.
3. There are always survivors.

Not if you nuke ‘em from orbit!

////

117 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:06:24pm

Listening to CSPAN, it’s amazing how much some people will whore the message of their masters for so little nothing in return.

118 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:06:27pm

re: #116 Dark_Falcon

Not if you nuke ‘em from orbit!

////

It’s the only way to be sure.

119 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:08:29pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

A good fraction of these GOP staffers are probably quivering with delight at being abused by their masters, in the hopes that one day they too will become a master entitled to abuse others for the hell of it.

Authoritarians just can’t help themselves, even when they are being abused.

Their happiest moment is “getting spit in the face by the Congressman Thursday.”

120 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:10:45pm

120 Days of Sodumb. By Marquis de Derp

121 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:11:23pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

From the “Things Not To Say When You’re Making a Mistake” file, we get John Boehner’s latest hit:

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

C’mon, Mr. President. Your mouth is saying no, but your body is saying yes. Have another drink of Champagne.

122 Belafon  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:11:55pm

re: #66 Skip Intro

Yeah, I kind of wonder what he’s actually taking. If it’s defensive driving, then it’s supposed to take at least six hours. The online versions that are authorized here in Texas have to take that long, and act like you described. You can get in serious trouble if you don’t do it right. It’s meant to take at least six hours so that if they don’t convince you to drive safe, they’ll at least make it hurt enough to make you think twice.

123 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:12:26pm

re: #121 aagcobb

C’mon, Mr. President. Your mouth is saying no, but your body is saying yes. Have another drink of Champagne.

So up until now, the GOP has been negging the President?

Man, their PUA is weak. Not enough peacocking.

124 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:12:57pm

re: #70 GeneJockey

Cripes, the online Sexual Harassment thing was like that. Every section I finished with at least 6 minutes to spare. You HAD TO take 2 hours. No choice.

That just gives you lots of time to surf porn between questions.

125 Skip Intro  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:13:06pm

re: #95 Stanley Sea

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Bernard Goldberg made total sense on O’Reilly?

Is this some alternate universe he’s talking about?

126 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:13:10pm

I got wingnuts and fence-sitters alike who are now trying to nervously assure themselves that Senate Dems will suddenly change their votes on this third bill, if only to seem “fair” about the Congressional subsidies.

127 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:13:11pm

Senate session here: c-span.org

128 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:13:46pm

Well, that should speed things up.

129 EPR-radar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:14:20pm

re: #114 Amory Blaine

Or they could remain stubborn about it. E.g., undying GOP opposition to Medicare and social security.

Bob Dole: In 1996, while running for the Presidency, Dole openly bragged that he was one of 12 House members who voted against creating Medicare in 1965. “I was there, fighting the fight, voting against Medicare … because we knew it wouldn’t work in 1965.”

“Now, we don’t get rid of it in round one because we don’t think that that’s politically smart, and we don’t think that’s the right way to go through a transition. But we believe it’s going to wither on the vine because we think people are voluntarily going to leave it — voluntarily.”
~Newt Gingrich, admitting that while they won’t kill Medicare outright, Republicans will try to make it wither on the vine and die.

MS. MADDOW: This is an—I mean, you said in 1995 that “Medicare is a program I would have no part of in a free world.”

REP. ARMEY: Right. Absolutely right.

MS. MADDOW: You said in 2002, “We’re going to have to bite the bullet on Social Security and phase it out over a period of time.”

REP. ARMEY: And I’m going to enumerate exactly what I’m talking about. Medicare…

130 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:14:25pm

re: #128 jaunte

Heh.

131 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:14:48pm

12 Republicans Vote ‘Nay’ On House GOP Anti-Obamacare Bill

132 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:15:17pm

When Pete King has become your party’s voice of reason, it’s time to realize that it needs to be put down.

133 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:15:28pm

CNN:

4. Pass the ammunition: Not so fast. A shutdown would affect the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Translation: That gun permit you wanted processed wouldn’t happen anytime soon. cnn.com

134 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:15:46pm

re: #124 aagcobb

That just gives you lots of time to surf porn between questions.

And call your employees over to watch, while you make suggestive comments. That thought would never have occurred to me!

135 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:17:19pm

re: #129 EPR-radar

They could hold multiple positions simultaneously, all the while denouncing both positions. Like they do right now.

Weeeeeeee !

136 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:17:35pm

re: #124 aagcobb

That just gives you lots of time to surf porn between questions.

re: #134 GeneJockey

And call your employees over to watch, while you make suggestive comments. That thought would never have occurred to me!

EDIT - Seriously, however - it claimed to be based on how much time it was the window in front.

137 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:18:23pm

Not really surprising to see this. Once the latest bill is sent back, Boehner has nowhere to go. All previous “concessions” have been rebuked, but any further ones will drive off further TP votes.

138 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:18:28pm
139 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:19:08pm

Lol.

140 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:19:52pm

re: #128 jaunte

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Well, that should speed things up.

Not sure it actually works that way.

The NICS Examiner will provide the FFL with the date of the third business day after the firearm check was initiated. Business days do not include the day the check was initiated, Saturdays, Sundays, and any day state offices in the state of purchase are closed. If the FFL has not received from the NICS a final determination after three business days have elapsed since the delay response, it is within the FFL’s discretion whether or not to transfer the firearm (if state law permits the transfer).

So that’s fucked up. If this shutdown goes on for any length of time FFLs may well be able to transfer firearms on their own recognizance.

141 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:19:56pm

re: #138 jaunte

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And after years with Woody Allen, she may have some insight….

142 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:20:03pm

re: #104 jaunte

It will be interesting in the future to see what gyrations they go through to pretend they didn’t oppose the ACA.

They will start calling it Romneycare, and warn that replacing free market exchanges with socialist single payer will bankrupt the country and lead to rationing health care and death panels.

143 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:20:33pm

I think Dante saw Bachmann in the 8th circle walking the Penrose stairs backwards in honor of circular logic.

144 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:21:28pm

Dependency on government? Whatcha talkin’ about there Bachmann?

Dependency on private insurers to provide policies that don’t discriminate against those with preexisting conditions?

Dependency on private insurers to provide policies that have preventative care requirements that should help reduce health care costs by catching problems before they get seriously expensive?

This isn’t socialism by any stretch, and it isn’t creating a dependency, but what’d you expect from Bachmann.

After all, the exchanges are simply a marketplace where government set ground rules and insurers provide policies based on those rules. The rates get set like any other insurance policy for a given state, and then the government provides subsidies for up to 400% of the poverty level to those who can’t afford the insurance straight up.

Oh, that part? How’s that dependency any different from how agribusinesses can’t do without farm subsidies or banks and Wall Street can’t do without tax breaks like net operating loss deductions and can write off R&D and other incentives that warp the tax code left and right?

Oh yeah, poor people. And folks in the South - to a far greater degree because their health, and their health insurance options were far more limited.

145 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:22:21pm

re: #143 Amory Blaine

Well, she is going to hell.

146 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:23:39pm

re: #145 ProTARDISLiberal

Well, she is going to hell.

Nope.
You all in Heaven get stuck with her.
Suckers!
:P

147 Areopagitica  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:26:05pm

I think we can conclude that she is the dumbest person in the world. And that’s being nice to Sarah Palin. I would like to think that the people in her district who elected her would be severely embarrassed by her pablum but they probably lap up just about everything that comes out of her speak-hole.

Can someone explain to me why the (t)GOP suddenly hates trying to reform health care and health insurance in this country? If they are such lovers of capitalism, on what planet do they think it’s socially and economically acceptable for massive amounts of people to file for bankruptcy should they suffer a severe illness or injury and to promote an expensive, manipulated and partially wasteful system? Does this party really just want to create another sub-population of financially ruined citizens?

148 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:26:32pm

Boom, dead.

149 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:27:16pm

re: #144 lawhawk

Dependency on government? Whatcha talkin’ about there Bachmann?

Dependency on private insurers to provide policies that don’t discriminate against those with preexisting conditions?

Dependency on private insurers to provide policies that have preventative care requirements that should help reduce health care costs by catching problems before they get seriously expensive?

This isn’t socialism by any stretch, and it isn’t creating a dependency, but what’d you expect from Bachmann.

After all, the exchanges are simply a marketplace where government set ground rules and insurers provide policies based on those rules. The rates get set like any other insurance policy for a given state, and then the government provides subsidies for up to 400% of the poverty level to those who can’t afford the insurance straight up.

Oh, that part? How’s that dependency any different from how agribusinesses can’t do without farm subsidies or banks and Wall Street can’t do without tax breaks like net operating loss deductions and can write off R&D and other incentives that warp the tax code left and right?

Oh yeah, poor people. And folks in the South - to a far greater degree because their health, and their health insurance options were far more limited.

A lot of crazy-ass horseshit, packed to the scuppers with half-truths and bald-faced lies, and all in the service of comforting the comfortable at the expense of those less well off.

She doesn’t disappoint!

150 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:27:34pm

re: #148 Varek Raith

Boom, dead.

Much like the Aryans on BB last night.

151 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:28:05pm
152 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:28:10pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

The Teahadis are gonna go berserk if that turns out to be true.

Ah, sweet schadenfreude.

153 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:29:55pm

Senate votes to send “clean” CR back to House. Back to you, Johnny.

154 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:30:42pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Senate votes to send “clean” CR back to House. Back to you, Johnny.

Now Cruz is gonna cut it with baby laxative.

155 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:31:04pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Senate votes to send “clean” CR back to House. Back to you, Johnny.

We shall see, but this may be where the Human Cheeto capitulates.

156 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:31:15pm

re: #153 Targetpractice

Senate votes to send “clean” CR back to House. Back to you, Johnny.

How long did it take? heh

157 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:31:31pm

Evening, Lizards! Been off running errands and having dinner. What’s the latest on the GOP’s War on America?

158 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:32:19pm

re: #147 Areopagitica

I think we can conclude that she is the dumbest person in the world. And that’s being nice to Sarah Palin. I would like to think that the people in her district who elected her would be severely embarrassed by her pablum but they probably lap up just about everything that comes out of her speak-hole.

Can someone explain to me why the (t)GOP suddenly hates trying to reform health care and health insurance in this country? If they are such lovers of capitalism, on what planet do they think it’s socially and economically acceptable for massive amounts of people to file for bankruptcy should they suffer a severe illness or injury and to promote an expensive, manipulated and partially wasteful system? Does this party really just want to create another sub-population of financially ruined citizens?

“Hey everybody! The new sheriff is a Ni-CLANG!”

Well, it’s not JUST that, and it’s not OVERTLY that. But it is about the loss of white privilege (or more accurately being asked to share it) in a time of self-inflicted economic uncertainty, while increasingly not being universally supported in their various bigotries. The world is changing around them, and they want to stop it, and make it go backwards.

Add to that an elitist view of how economics works (rich people shit out jobs, so we need to feed them more), and how easy it is to get a good job (there’s that white privilege again), and you get people with a severely warped understanding of reality, the need to stop any change, and the desire to punish anyone they see as undeserving, especially if they are darker hued.

159 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:32:27pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

How long did it take? heh

Less than an hour. And so far as I can tell, there were no Dem defections in the Senate, despite wingnut hopes that this would be the one that they’d vote for out of fear of reelection next year.

160 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:33:10pm

Hey D_F, are you proud of your party right now? Is this extortionist bullshit fun for you?

161 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:34:44pm

So now we see if Boehner’s got the balls to stand up to his caucus or if he’ll try another hare-brained scheme in the hopes that he can catch the Senate sleeping.

162 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:36:28pm
163 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:36:57pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

So now we see if Boehner’s got the balls to stand up to his caucus or if he’ll try another hare-brained scheme in the hopes that he can catch the Senate sleeping.

Next, without one iota of shame, they’re going to demand that Obama sing Mammy on the House floor.

164 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:37:51pm

54-46

165 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:38:01pm

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

166 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:39:25pm

Steve Stockman, I would like to introduce you to a giant stinging hornet.

167 dog philosopher  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:39:31pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

54-46

ok hopefully a clean bill will pass the house now and we can end this little badminton game

168 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:39:48pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

killers

169 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:39:52pm

re: #164 Varek Raith

54-46

Wow, have to laugh at Collins for complaining earlier about her party’s brinkmanship and still voting with the House.

170 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:40:25pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!

171 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:40:26pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

That falls into the “not my concern” category for me.

172 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:40:56pm

re: #157 Lidane

Evening, Lizards! Been off running errands and having dinner. What’s the latest on the GOP’s War on America?

Heavy funding for the new law enforcement War on Jazz.

Mandatory ultrasounds for hemlines above knee.

Flush toilets will now be coal powered.

Spent fracking fluid will now be distributed as an alternate to water, which has been shown to be liberally biased.

Since all health inspections to food have been stopped, dysentery is now Freedom Bowels.

173 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:41:04pm
174 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:41:21pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

Image: 25yuswsw28295.gif

175 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:42:09pm

re: #174 Varek Raith

Image: 25yuswsw28295.gif

Fuck that. Nuke them from orbit, just to be sure.

176 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:42:48pm

Been lurking around some forums tonight and it’s pretty heartening how some people are learning about the new law… and actually finding out how it works for them. Not every forum is polarized. Nice to see the process in real time.

177 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:43:16pm

re: #173 Lidane

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There’s not enough booze in Bevmo to make me watch that.

178 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:43:53pm

Oh, to be a fly on the wall when the House GOP caucus goes behind closed doors again to discuss the next step. Somehow, I don’t expect they’re gonna come out smiling and boastful again.

179 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:44:53pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

i.chzbgr.com

180 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:47:01pm
181 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:47:35pm
182 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:47:37pm

re: #178 Targetpractice

Oh, to be a fly on the wall when the House GOP caucus goes behind closed doors again to discuss the next step. Somehow, I don’t expect they’re gonna come out smiling and boastful again.

For some reason, I just flashed on ‘Duck Dodgers In the 25th and a half Century’, the scene where Daffy pulls out his disintegrater,

“And boy, when it dithintegrateth, it DITHINTEGRATETH!”

*BBZzzzt*

“Well…what do you know…it…dithintegrated.”

183 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:49:58pm

Godwin level derpathon.

184 aagcobb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:51:34pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

185 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:52:48pm
186 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:53:24pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

Youtube Video

187 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:54:23pm

No green M&M’s in the oil lobby chamber.

188 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:54:48pm

re: #184 aagcobb

I for one welcome our new insect overlords.

That’s what flew through my window and buzzed around the apartment a few years ago in Prague. My girlfriend at the time freaked right the hell out; she’d never seen anything like it (and neither had I) and she thought maybe it was a wasp from Chernobyl or something.

As to how it ended up in Prague, it could have come over on a flight from East Asia. I never saw another one ever again, and if it was the only one, when it died off, that’s that.

189 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:55:43pm

re: #187 Amory Blaine

No green M&M’s in the oil lobby chamber.

Senator Vitter is insistent about more diaper changing stations.

190 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:55:50pm

re: #186 Targetpractice

Death Star has cleared the planet…

191 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:56:11pm
192 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:56:28pm

“My momma always told me, ‘Crazy is as crazy does’. And that’s all I’ve got to say about that.”

193 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:57:53pm

It’d be a hell of a thing if an actual GOP revolt got underway and got blocked by a half-dozen scared blue dogs who vote aye.

194 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:59:31pm
195 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:00:55pm

Cantor currently performing on CSPAN.

196 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:00:56pm

re: #194 Lidane

Looking up Flake, he looks like a stupid frat boy.

197 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:01:29pm
198 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:02:41pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

From the “Things Not To Say When You’re Making a Mistake” file, we get John Boehner’s latest hit:

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

But we didn’t say when.

199 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:04:37pm

He’s Alpha Beta all the way.

200 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:06:05pm

re: #199 Amory Blaine

What do Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, and Zeta have in common?

201 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:06:14pm

re: #76 Decatur Deb

What do you have to do to be sentenced to Online Sexual Harassment training?

I guess if you’re really horrible at it, and you need some coaching?

RBS
What??? it’s training NOT to do that… oh, that’s a whole different story

202 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:06:55pm

IDK what do Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, and Zeta have in common?

203 PT Barnum  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:07:02pm

Jesus these guys are just delusional. I’d like to think we’ve finally hit peak wingnut, but it appears that is just wishful thinking anytime it’s considered

204 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:07:21pm
205 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:07:41pm

re: #97 EPR-radar

If the bad guys win the GOP civil war, then we will have Civil War round 2 in a few more years.

That one will be won by the same people that won the Yugoslavian Civil War.

206 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:08:08pm

What sorcery is this? I selected some text and a context menu came up with a little twitter bird in it.

207 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:08:26pm

re: #202 Amory Blaine

I was the one who asked the question. :P

208 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:08:42pm

re: #203 PT Barnum

Jesus these guys are just delusional.

Related:

209 PT Barnum  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:09:09pm

re: #201 RealityBasedSteve

I guess if you’re really horrible at it, and you need some coaching?

RBS
What??? it’s training NOT to do that… oh, that’s a whole different story

first thing they teach you is that harass is only one word.

210 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:10:13pm
211 PT Barnum  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:10:44pm

re: #208 Lidane

Related:

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Clap Louder! If we clap loud enough Tinkerbell will live and Obamacare will get repealed

212 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:10:48pm

re: #105 The Ghost of a Flea

If you don’t read Stanislav Lem, you should.

The Star Diaries includes a segment where a human ambassador is brought before a universal congress, only to have a delegate inrevocably demonstrate that human are impossible, as they a pile of mucilage from a planet orbiting a single star, covered in far too much water, have bilateral symmetry, etc.

It goes on at length about the impossibility of human live, and resolves in determining that all biological life on Earth was the product of a malicious prank, with the culprit forced to pay cosmic alimony.

I’m fond of this particular bit of SF humour.

213 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:11:17pm
214 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:12:22pm

re: #210 Lidane

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Seriously? They spend months refusing to hash out the difference between the budget bills, now they want to do it in the dead of the night?

215 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:12:37pm

re: #213 Lidane

I think the proper response here is:

OBUMMEr HASN”T PaSSED A BUDGET IN YEARS WHY DOES HE CARE NOW???!?!?!?!??!!!!?!?!?!!1/1/1?!/1/

216 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:12:40pm

re: #209 PT Barnum

first thing they teach you is that harass is only one word.

Just had a “diet rootbeer out the nose” moment from that one.

RBS
I used to believe in politicians working together to craft plans for best interests of the people of this country, and I used to believe in Unicorns. I am still holding out hope for the unicorn thing.

217 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:12:51pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

Seriously? They spend months refusing to hash out the difference between the budget bills, now they want to do it in the dead of the night?

They’re desperate.

218 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:13:06pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

Seriously? They spend months refusing to hash out the difference between the budget bills, now they want to do it in the dead of the night?

Yep. NOW they want to do their jobs.

These guys are worse at cramming for a test than I ever was. WTF.

219 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:13:16pm

re: #217 Dr Lizardo

They’re desperate drunk.

220 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:13:58pm

re: #219 klys

They’re desperate drunk.

Well, yes, that too.

221 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:14:48pm

Full term platitudes are borne here. ~ M. Bachmann

222 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:15:52pm

I can see why they’d suddenly want to tackle the budget now, part of the Ryan “Plan” was zeroing out funding for the ACA.

223 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:16:26pm
224 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:18:10pm
225 Amory Blaine  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:19:11pm

Yep Tea Party caucus is stepping all over the stuff. Can’t even cook it up decent.

226 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:19:33pm

What Happens to the Federal Courts in a Government Shutdown?

“…In an attempt to help prepare members of the judiciary for what could be coming, the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts circulated a memo to its members warning a shutdown would result in widespread court furloughs and would worsen the “grave judicial crisis” that exists thanks to the $350 million Congress already stripped from the judiciary’s budget this year. According to the memo, the federal courts have enough reserve funds to run for about ten business days before shutting down all but their most essential functions.”

227 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:22:03pm

I cannot even …

228 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:22:39pm


Very plausible…

229 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:23:50pm

re: #165 Vicious Babushka

While we are all freaking out over crack cocaine Obamacare or shutdown or whatnot, people in China are being chased down and murdered to death by giant stinging hornets.

WARNING BEFORE YOU CLICK ON THE LINK: Some things can’t be unseen.

The local bees have no problems with them.

Youtube Video

230 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:24:47pm
231 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:25:08pm

re: #228 jaunte

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Very plausible…

Not surprising in the least. Drag out the drama in the hopes that public opinion will shift in their favor. Spineless fuckwits.

232 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:25:24pm

my corgi just shut down. thanks obama. #freedom #ronpaul

233 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:27:02pm

re: #228 jaunte

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Very plausible…

But so incredibly goddamned cynical. To refuse conferencing for months and months and then ask for it two hours before shutdown.

234 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:28:05pm
235 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:28:45pm

re: #233 goddamnedfrank

But so incredibly goddamned cynical. To refuse conferencing for months and months and then ask for it two hours before shutdown.

It’s about breathing room for them. Hour’s late and they can’t seem to string together the votes to put out another CR tonight. Expect that they can spend tomorrow if not Wednesday piecing together a new volley.

236 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:31:28pm

Making VB’s olive pasta salad again. Cannot praise that enough. It has completely entered the standard I’m-lazy dinner rotation. Tasty *and* easy.

237 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:32:16pm
238 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:33:24pm

Ugh, my loaf baking pan is leaving clear rust streaks when I wipe it out with paper towels. :(

239 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:33:59pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

It’s about breathing room for them. Hour’s late and they can’t seem to string together the votes to put out another CR tonight. Expect that they can spend tomorrow if not Wednesday piecing together a new volley.

Boehner can pass a clean CR any time he wants to. In the end that’s what he’d going to do anyway, his bitch ass is going to cave and then he’ll face a leadership challenge.

240 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:35:47pm
241 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:38:18pm

Yeah, let’s go ahead and define “compromise”:

a settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands.

What concession are Republicans offering up? Downgrading their demands from “Defund” to “Delay” is not a concession. Funding the government is not a concession. In fact, nothing they’ve put on the table has been a concession to Democrats. So this argument that Reid is refusing to “compromise” by not agreeing to the GOP’s ransom demands is BULLSHIT!

242 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:40:01pm

re: #240 Targetpractice

Cheesy.

243 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:40:06pm

So the GOP is going to end the sequester?

No?

So where is the GOP compromise?

Fuck them.

244 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:43:07pm

re: #241 Targetpractice

Yeah, let’s go ahead and define “compromise”:

What concession are Republicans offering up? Downgrading their demands from “Defund” to “Delay” is not a concession. Funding the government is not a concession. In fact, nothing they’ve put on the table has been a concession to Democrats. So this argument that Reid is refusing to “compromise” by not agreeing to the GOP’s ransom demands is BULLSHIT!

And yet the sheep like francis buy it hook, line, and sinker.

245 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:44:31pm

re: #240 Targetpractice

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Youtube Video

246 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:45:35pm

Talking points can’t save you now!

247 b.d.  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:46:19pm

At this point the Republicans are yelling at the iceberg.

248 ObserverArt  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:46:32pm

re: #185 Lidane

[ Rashid Hussein Obama @rashid7053

Breaking: As final demand not to shutdown government, republicans demand that NFL rehire Tim Tebow. Any team.
9:45 PM - 30 Sep 2013
]

I think we can work with this. Just so long as there is no language on how long team needs to keep him on active roster.

249 kirkspencer  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:47:14pm

re: #248 ObserverArt

I think we can work with this. Just so long as there is no language on how long team needs to keep him on active roster.

Or position.

250 J A P  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:48:12pm

re: #65 Targetpractice

Boehner: ‘All The President Has To Do Is Say Yes’

“Just give us the money and we’ll return your child to you, safe and sound.”

Funny, that’s what the guy who threatened to throw acid in my face if I didn’t marry him said to me. He didn’t do it. Does that make him saner than the GOP?

251 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:48:19pm

Help me, Jon Stewart. You’re my only hope.

252 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:48:23pm

It’s not even a conference committee on the budget, it’s on the CR. As in the GOP want to continue trying to portray their attempts to override the last election as two sides with separate demands.

253 Patricia Kayden  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:48:33pm

re: #243 Kragar

So the GOP is going to end the sequester?

No?

So where is the GOP compromise?

Fuck them.

Are Dems demanding that the Republicans end the sequester? Hadn’t heard that.

Tonight Rachel Maddow showed video clips dating back two-three years of various Republicans threatening to shut down the government. Looks like that has always been their plan from the get go. This is no surprise.

254 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:48:39pm
255 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:49:32pm

Yokel media news:
None other than Erick Erickson of Red State will be a guest on the Chad Hasty show on KFYO 790 AM at 9:05 CDT Tuesday morning. They do have live streaming and toll free call-in if you want to speak Erick in person.

256 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:49:38pm

re: #253 Patricia Kayden

Are Dems demanding that the Republicans end the sequester? Hadn’t heard that.

Tonight Rachel Maddow showed video clips dating back two-three years of various Republicans threatening to shut down the government. Looks like that has always been their plan from the get go. This is no surprise.

I think it is more a representation of where Democrats have compromised already and had it go nowhere.

And Republicans have gotten what they wanted.

257 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:50:11pm
258 calochortus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:50:28pm

I’ve been interested in the relatively low number of comments on the whole shutdown/Obamacare thing on Free Republic. There is some discussion, but overall, not much. The latest thread on the topic has a significant number of posts suggesting prayer.
The only thing I can make of it is that they know somewhere deep inside that this isn’t going to end well for them.

259 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:50:37pm
260 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:50:53pm

Jennifer Rubin again showing why the WaPo pays her the big bucks.///

261 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:51:23pm

re: #259 jaunte

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No U Sessions.
Do your fucking job.
Ahem.

262 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:51:42pm

Haha, the top rated comment on an article about Newt Gingrich on CNN:

Come on, people, it’s Newt. Newt tends to exaggerate. Saying the House gets to dictate terms because Republicans control the ‘People’s House’ when Newt knows more people voted for Democratic candidates than Republican in 2012. The only reason Republicans control the House is because they gerrymandered the districts. If Newt wants to see democracy in action he should urge Boehner to have a vote on a clean continuing resolution. Let’s have democracy. Let’s have a vote.

263 Stanley Sea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:51:57pm
264 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:52:29pm
265 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53:15pm

re: #258 calochortus

They are about to find out how the MB is thought of in Egypt, and Jamaat-i-Islami is thought of in Bangladesh.

The hard way.

266 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53:21pm

re: #181 Lidane

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That’s very good, Harry.

267 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53:26pm

re: #264 Lidane

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Well, if he insists on Chicago style it’s no wonder.

268 bws58  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:53:59pm

Front page of HuffPo above the fold in bright red

Many Congressmen Drinking so much you can smell it

269 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:54:16pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

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He’s actually an albino.

270 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:54:45pm

re: #268 bws58

Front page of HuffPo above the fold in bright red

Many Congressmen Drinking so much you can smell it

I thought you were joking

271 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:55:04pm

Obligatory picture of Orange

272 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:55:07pm

re: #267 klys

Well, if he insists on Chicago style it’s no wonder.

Chicago style pizza is a waste of bread. NY style thin crust slice FTW.

273 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:55:15pm

re: #253 Patricia Kayden

Are Dems demanding that the Republicans end the sequester? Hadn’t heard that.

Tonight Rachel Maddow showed video clips dating back two-three years of various Republicans threatening to shut down the government. Looks like that has always been their plan from the get go. This is no surprise.

Senate Dems: We’ve Already Compromised By Keeping Sequestration

274 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:55:30pm

re: #272 Lidane

Chicago style pizza is a waste of bread. NY style thin crust slice FTW.

I grew up in NJ. There is no other kind.

275 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:56:05pm
276 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:56:32pm

Grand Marnier?

277 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:56:32pm

“I’M FIFTY YEARS OLD AND THIS PRESIDENT IS THE MOST BLACK PARTISAN PRESIDENT IN MY LIFE” - every republican caller on cspan today

278 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:56:40pm

re: #274 klys

I grew up in NJ. There is no other kind.

So did I.
Toms River and then Lakewood.

279 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:56:52pm

From the No Shit, Sherlock files —

280 palomino  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:57:19pm

once they enroll millions of more individual Americans, it will be virtually impossible for us to pull these benefits back from people


At least she’s honest about gop motivations, perverse though they may be. It’s the same thing they said 50 years ago about Medicare and 75 years ago about Social Security.

Bachmann seems to look forward to the day when we “can pull those benefits back from people” meaning she sees it as a victory for her side if the number of uninsured goes way back up. The reasons can only be explained through a rigid mean-spirited ideology or the realization that Dems will get ALL the cred if Obamacare every becomes really popular.

Since the percentage of Americans getting health insurance through work has been dropping—slowly but steadily—for many years, we were likely to reach some sort of tipping point in the next decade or two. The gop has ignored this and come up with nothing as a replacement. They aren’t serious about healthcare reform because it’s an issue they don’t care about. Richard Fucking Nixon and Bob Dole were the last Republicans to offer any solutions.

281 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:57:26pm

re: #275 jaunte

Shorter Reid:

Youtube Video

282 ninja cat  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:57:30pm

I’m thrilled that no matter how much crazy the GOP has thrown up against the wall, the ACA goes into effect in just a few hours. They can be celebrating their 100th repeal attempt in a few years but that train is about to leave the station.

283 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:57:43pm

THREAT LEVEL: ORANGE

284 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:58:16pm

Alcee Hastings is pwning them.

285 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:58:20pm

re: #278 Varek Raith

So did I.
Toms River and then Lakewood.

Right up the road from me!

Red Bank/Middletown here. My parents are still there, at least for another 2 years or so.

286 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:59:09pm

re: #278 Varek Raith

So did I.
Toms River and then Lakewood.

Went to middle school band competitions in Lakewood, and then on to Six Flags Great Adventure.

Ah, good times. I had a flute solo in 8th grade that lasted all of 2 measures. I think we won 3rd that year.

287 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:59:13pm

re: #268 bws58

Front page of HuffPo above the fold in bright red

Many Congressmen Drinking so much you can smell it

The quick march to Rangarok. Strap in, people. These people are a serious as a heart attack.

May the Flying Spaghetti Monster help us.

288 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 7:59:54pm

re: #285 klys

For non-NJ folks, I should clarify here that up = down. In my head.

shush.

289 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:00:00pm

c-span.org

290 J A P  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:00:47pm

The Panda Cam is down.

291 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:00:51pm

re: #289 Varek Raith

c-span.org

YOU CAN’T MAKE ME WATCH THE CRAZY.

292 palomino  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:00:54pm

re: #272 Lidane

Chicago style pizza is a waste of bread. NY style thin crust slice FTW.

I’ve always thought of Chicago style pizza more like lasagna than pizza. It’s thick like lasgana, has multiple layers of sauce and cheese, is baked in a casserole dish, takes 45 minutes to cook (a NY pie maybe 10 minutes), and you eat it with knife and fork. It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s not pizza.

293 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:01:23pm

re: #292 palomino

I’ve always thought of Chicago style pizza more like lasagna than pizza. It’s thick like lasgana, has multiple layers of sauce and cheese, is baked in a casserole dish, takes 45 minutes to cook (a NY pie maybe 10 minutes), and you eat it with knife and fork. It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s not pizza.

That’s fine.

Except they call it pizza. And therefore need to be educated.

294 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:03:01pm

re: #292 palomino

I’ve always thought of Chicago style pizza more like lasagna than pizza. It’s thick like lasgana, has multiple layers of sauce and cheese, is baked in a casserole dish, takes 45 minutes to cook (a NY pie maybe 10 minutes), and you eat it with knife and fork. It’s not necessarily bad, but it’s not pizza.

Pizzaria Uno sez fuck you.

295 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:03:05pm

Speaking of which, I really miss real pizza. :( It’s always the first thing I have when I go back home. The second thing being Saladworks.

296 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:03:19pm

FOOD FIGHT!

297 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:03:29pm
298 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:03:38pm

re: #294 austin_blue

Pizzaria Uno sez fuck you.

Reality called. It would like to introduce you to real pizza.

299 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:04:00pm

Who is this Cole Woodall dude on C-SPAN? Sounds like a failed Blazing Saddles reject.

300 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:04:05pm

re: #296 Varek Raith

FOOD FIGHT!

Well hell, it’s more productive than the GOP right now.

Besides, the meatloaf is in the oven and I can’t finish the pasta salad until the husband gets home with the rest of it.

301 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:04:29pm

re: #299 Carlos Danger

Who is this Cole dude on C-SPAN? Sounds like a failed Blazing Saddles reject.

Rob Woodall.
He mad.

302 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:04:30pm

re: #294 austin_blue

Pizzaria Uno sez fuck you.

Pizzaria Uno uses frozen pizzas that it reheats in the store. Seriously.

303 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:05:14pm

re: #298 klys

Reality called. It would like to introduce you to real pizza.

Hey, agreed. If they can’t make a thin crust pie with white sauce and clams, it’s not an authentic pie shop.

304 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:05:34pm

There are very few food items I refuse to compromise on.

Pizza is one of them.

Bring it.

305 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:05:37pm

I hope Angus King breaks in and does his best impression of the Incredible Hulk

306 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:06:14pm
307 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:06:18pm

re: #303 austin_blue

Hey, agreed. If they can’t make a thin crust pie with white sauce and clams, it’s not an authentic pie.

All my real pizza joints can do that, so we’re good.

That being said, if the grease doesn’t drip off the pepperoni when you fold it, it is also not a real pizza joint.

308 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:06:32pm

re: #302 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Pizzaria Uno uses frozen pizzas that it reheats in the store. Seriously.

War.
/

309 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:06:58pm

re: #308 Kragar

War.
/

I’m sorry you have never met a real pizza in your life?

310 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:07:05pm

re: #293 klys

That’s fine.

Except they call it pizza. And therefore need to be educated.

I’ll eat my pizza as the Romans did, with bay leaves and honey.

Anything else is inauthentic.

311 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:07:12pm

re: #307 klys

All my real pizza joints can do that, so we’re good.

That being said, if the grease doesn’t drip off the pepperoni when you fold it, it is also not a real pizza joint.

Youtube Video

312 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:07:29pm

re: #309 klys

I’m sorry you have never met a real pizza in your life?

He’s in Cali, so no.

313 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:07:50pm

re: #298 klys

Reality called. It would like to introduce you to real pizza.

Real pizza is made in a forno a legna and eaten with a fork, at Pizzeria Moise, near the Pisa railroad station.

314 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:08:01pm

re: #307 klys

That being said, if the grease doesn’t drip off the pepperoni when you fold it, it is also not a real pizza joint.

THIS.

Also, it’s not pizza if I don’t burn the roof of my mouth at least once, even with the slice folded.

315 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:08:49pm

Fuck it, I’m off to NY for some pizza.

316 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:09:12pm

re: #313 Decatur Deb

Real pizza is made in a forno a legna and eaten with a fork, at Pizzeria Moise, near the Pisa railroad station.

I’m sorry you are delusional, but real pizza is done NY style. The Italians may claim otherwise, but they’re full of bullshit.

//

317 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:09:42pm

re: #309 klys

I’m sorry you have never met a real pizza in your life?

You’re sticking up for frozen pizzas?

318 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:09:57pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

He’s in Cali, so no.

There is a place here that ALMOST BUT NOT QUITE gets it.

It makes me so sad that they come SO CLOSE but fall short. I think it’s the seasonings, honestly. Maybe the water in the crust. I dunno.

319 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:10:14pm
320 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:10:19pm

re: #317 Kragar

You’re sticking up for frozen pizzas?

You’re advocating that a chain can make real pizza?

321 palomino  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:10:27pm

re: #293 klys

That’s fine.

Except they call it pizza. And therefore need to be educated.

You’ll never be able to educate those “Chicago thugs.”

Hell, I grew up in Houston back in the 70’s when it was little more than an overstuffed cow/oil town with nothing but Tex-Mex and the ubiquitous BBQ. Even we Texas pizza neophytes knew back then that “thick crust” pizza was junk. And we actually did refer to it as a “loaf of bread” when they introduced it at Pizza Hut in the early 70’s. And, to make matters even worse, real Chicago “pizza” is like twice as thick. They should call it pasta-less lasagna.

We have our own problems here in Cali now with cheeseless pizza. I’ve learned to like sushi and lots of other Cali foods, but I’m not gonna eat something that calls itself pizza but doesn’t have fucking cheese on it.

322 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:10:42pm
323 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:10:55pm

re: #316 klys

I’m sorry you are delusional, but real pizza is done NY style. The Italians may claim otherwise, but they’re full of bullshit.

//

“I hate Marco Polo. He stole one of our national treasures. He stole pizza from Korea.”

slice.seriouseats.com

324 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:11:12pm

re: #315 Varek Raith

Fuck it, I’m off to NY for some pizza.

Plz send some, will provide address.

Extra pepperoni.

325 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:11:44pm
326 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:11:57pm

re: #323 Decatur Deb

“I hate Marco Polo. He stole one of our national treasures. He stole pizza from Korea.”

slice.seriouseats.com

Good, true NY style pizza is one of the things I regret the most about moving away from the East Coast.

The other are probably my friends. I’m pretty sure that’s the only other positive.

327 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:12:26pm

re: #321 palomino

YWe have our own problems here in Cali now with cheeseless pizza.

Cheeseless pizza is a disgrace and a sin and should be jettisoned into space yesterday. Just because someone wants to be vegan doesn’t mean they get to ruin a perfectly good pizza by leaving the cheese off.

328 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:12:34pm

Senate Dems repeating the same theme over and over: “We won’t negotiate with a gun to our heads.”

329 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:13:08pm

re: #326 klys

Good, true NY style pizza is one of the things I regret the most about moving away from the East Coast.

The other are probably my friends. I’m pretty sure that’s the only other positive.

Were the friends Sicilian? NY pizza is.

330 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:13:09pm

re: #322 Charles Johnson

WHOA. I hope no one was hurt.

331 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:14:27pm

re: #330 Lidane

WHOA. I hope no one was hurt.

Seems to have been related to a power outage, reports are minor injuries only.

More info here.

332 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:14:31pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

Another pic:

Image: explosion.FANG_.jpg

dailycal.org

333 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:15:18pm

re: #329 Decatur Deb

Were the friends Sicilian? NY pizza is.

I have had Sicilian style pizza. It is definitely distinct these days from NY style.

The friends are sadly in MD, mostly. A few in NJ. :( None of them have seen fit to move out to CA with me.

334 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:15:40pm
335 palomino  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:16:11pm

re: #327 Lidane

Cheeseless pizza is a disgrace and a sin and should be jettisoned into space yesterday. Just because someone wants to be vegan doesn’t mean they get to ruin a perfectly good pizza by leaving the cheese off.

It’s like crust-less pies and bread-less sanwiches. A total contradiction in terms and a culinary atrocity.

336 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:16:54pm

re: #327 Lidane

Cheeseless pizza is a disgrace and a sin and should be jettisoned into space yesterday. Just because someone wants to be vegan doesn’t mean they get to ruin a perfectly good pizza by leaving the cheese off.

I could never be vegan because I could never give up cheese.

I could never be vegetarian because I could never give up pepperoni.

337 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:17:07pm

re: #331 klys

Seems to have been related to a power outage, reports are minor injuries only.

More info here.

A loud bang here is, in order of likelihood:

1. Transformer
2. Shotgun
3. Meth lab going trans-sonic.

338 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:17:24pm

There’s about 25 pizza joints in a ten mile radius around my area

339 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:18:28pm

re: #338 Carlos Danger

There’s about 25 pizza joints in a ten mile radius around my area

So? We have Papa John’s and Domino’s.

340 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:18:29pm

re: #337 Decatur Deb

A loud bang here is, in order of likelihood:

1. Transformer
2. Shotgun
3. Meth lab going trans-sonic.

Given the photo of the fireball linked above, I am ruling out #2 unless that is a hell of a shotgun. Underground transformer possible. I don’t know what labs/classes/etc. are in California Hall because Berkeley is our unhallowed rivals, but I still wish them the best in recovering from this.

They can just lose the damn axe anyway.

341 darthstar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:19:03pm
342 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:19:42pm

re: #338 Carlos Danger

There’s about 25 pizza joints in a ten mile radius around my area

It doesn’t count if they are 24 Pizza Huts and a Papa John’s.

343 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:20:23pm

re: #307 klys

All my real pizza joints can do that, so we’re good.

That being said, if the grease doesn’t drip off the pepperoni when you fold it, it is also not a real pizza joint.

Here’s the real deal in Austin:

homeslicepizza.com

Connecticut ex-pats. The white clam (I add anchovies and basil leaf) is just killer bee.

So do you think pineapple is ever appropriate on a pie? I think it is of Satan.

344 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:20:54pm

re: #341 darthstar

Maybe this will highlight the hazards and costs of copper theft, which I am sure the GOP will just highlight as the hazards of the free market.

/half

345 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:20:55pm

re: #341 darthstar

That’s a pretty fucking amazing power failure. Like the one in Manhattan during Sandy.

346 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:22:03pm

re: #343 austin_blue

Here’s the real deal in Austin:

homeslicepizza.com

Connecticut ex-pats. The white clam (I add anchovies and basil leaf) is just killer bee.

So do you think pineapple is ever appropriate on a pie? I think it is of Satan.

They make it in N. Italy, but they blame it on German tourists.

347 Carlos Danger  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:22:07pm

re: #342 klys

It doesn’t count if they are 24 Pizza Huts and a Papa John’s.

I wasn’t even counting those two… heh

348 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:22:32pm

re: #343 austin_blue

Here’s the real deal in Austin:

homeslicepizza.com

Connecticut ex-pats. The white clam (I add anchovies and basil leaf) is just killer bee.

So do you think pineapple is ever appropriate on a pie? I think it is of Satan.

I have never, ever done pineapple on a pie. I have no opinion.

There should be grease dripping off it even if it is only cheese.

I would use set notation to express this but apparently my keyboard is missing a key button, so you are all spared.

349 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:22:52pm

re: #347 Carlos Danger

I wasn’t even counting those two… heh

Then don’t rub it in. :(

350 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:22:58pm

re: #336 klys

I could never be vegan because I could never give up cheese.

Vegan’s not an option. I like cheese too much. Also, while I enjoy some vegan sweets and desserts (I’m in Austin, after all) , I’m not giving up real tiramisu or ice cream, thanks.

I could never be vegetarian because I could never give up pepperoni.

Barbecue is what keeps me a meat eater. I will never give up a good brisket. Ever.

351 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:23:45pm

re: #350 Lidane

Vegan’s not an option. I like cheese too much. Also, while I enjoy some vegan sweets and desserts (I’m in Austin, after all) , I’m not giving up real tiramisu or ice cream, thanks.

Barbecue is what keeps me a meat eater. I will never give up a good brisket. Ever.

Next time you end up the Silicon Valley direction, tell me and I will host a Lizard party.

With meat. And cheese.

352 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:24:31pm

re: #348 klys

I have never, ever done pineapple on a pie. I have no opinion.

There should be grease dripping off it even if it is only cheese.

I would use set notation to express this but apparently my keyboard is missing a key button, so you are all spared.

Now see, that’s comedy. Well played!

353 jaunte  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:24:36pm
354 Kragar  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:24:41pm

Reid Refuses To Entertain Conference Committee Plan

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) in no uncertain terms said Senate Democrats would not go to a conference committee with House Republicans unless they send a clean continuing resolution to the Senate.

“We will not go to conference with a gun to our head,” Reid said late Monday night on the Senate floor. “The first thing the House has to do is pass a clean six-week C.R. They have that before them they can do that right now.”

355 alpuz  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:25:29pm

re: #317 Kragar

Yes! Might as well, I’ve been involved in dumber ‘disagreements’ all day.

I’ve worked as a pizza cook in about every goddamn kinda pizza establishment on planet earth. I’ve done Chicago style - deep dish, thin crust & stuffed. During that stint I was schooled by a crazy englishman(on mushrooms) on how the sicilians make ‘real’ thin crust pizza.

Then I spent a couple years in Austin, Texas learning ‘New York’ Pizza from some Mexican guys working for an Iranian couple. I’ve also spent about 10 or so months working in big chains thawing and spec cupping pizzas before I put them through the assembly line stove.

I’ve tossed, spun, freakin machined more pizza crust than most people here on planet earth & I still love a good frozen pizza.

356 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:25:54pm

re: #352 austin_blue

Now see, that’s comedy. Well played!

This is SINCERE REGRET FOR NON-NY STYLE PIZZA played out in realtime.

THERE IS A LESSON HERE, CHILDREN. STAY WHERE YOU CAN GET REAL FOOD.

Obamacare doesn’t cover shipping NY pizza to me. :(

357 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:25:57pm

re: #353 jaunte

358 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:26:38pm

Apparently we have worn Charles out with the pizza discussion. Or prompted an open thread.

359 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:27:49pm

re: #358 klys

Apparently we have worn Charles out with the pizza discussion. Or prompted an open thread.

Maybe he got hungry and decided to go get a pizza.

360 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:27:50pm

re: #358 klys

Apparently we have worn Charles out with the pizza discussion. Or prompted an open thread.

Pizza is always appropriate when a government dies. The Yeltsin Rule.

361 austin_blue  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:28:44pm

re: #325 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Not a bomb. Sub-surface electrical junction.

362 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:30:12pm

Things that are so much easier after a 1700C furnace:

putting ketchup on the meatloaf in the oven at 400F.

363 Varek Raith  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:31:36pm

CNN playing MBF.

364 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:32:33pm

re: #363 Varek Raith

CNN playing MBF.

WHERE’S MY PIZZA.

365 Lidane  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:33:43pm

re: #363 Varek Raith

CNN playing MBF.

That’s a feature, not a bug.

366 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:34:04pm

Hey now, everybody knows St Louis style pizza is the best.
//

367 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:42:44pm

Slaughter sure doesn’t sound like she’s from Rochester

368 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:44:13pm

re: #327 Lidane

Cheeseless pizza is a disgrace and a sin and should be jettisoned into space yesterday. Just because someone wants to be vegan doesn’t mean they get to ruin a perfectly good pizza by leaving the cheese off.

They correctly call it “tomato pie” and not pizza in Philly. First place I came across it.

369 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:45:22pm

re: #346 Decatur Deb

They make it in N. Italy, but they blame it on German tourists.

Remember to say nothing about the war!

370 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:47:12pm

The Magical Balance Eldritch Horror has awoken.

371 GeneJockey  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:48:49pm

re: #350 Lidane

Vegan’s not an option. I like cheese too much. Also, while I enjoy some vegan sweets and desserts (I’m in Austin, after all) , I’m not giving up real tiramisu or ice cream, thanks.

Barbecue is what keeps me a meat eater. I will never give up a good brisket. Ever.

MEAT is what keeps me a meat eater.

372 klys  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:58:00pm

re: #370 The Ghost of a Flea

The Magical Balance Eldritch Horror has awoken.

Feels more appropriate.

373 sagehen  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 8:58:04pm

re: #176 Carlos Danger

Been lurking around some forums tonight and it’s pretty heartening how some people are learning about the new law… and actually finding out how it works for them. Not every forum is polarized. Nice to see the process in real time.

Are there such things as centrist political forums? Or are these sports and car and sci-fi forums going off-topic?

374 SnowdenBaggerVance  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 9:05:54pm

re: #373 sagehen

Are there such things as centrist political forums? Or are these sports and car and sci-fi forums going off-topic?

LGF is a centrist political forum. Unless you’re a zombie fucking teahadi douchebag.

375 EmmaAnne  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 9:11:45pm

re: #123 The Ghost of a Flea

So up until now, the GOP has been negging the President?

Man, their PUA is weak. Not enough peacocking.

xkcd.com

376 sagehen  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 9:13:56pm

re: #338 Carlos Danger

There’s about 25 pizza joints in a ten mile radius around my area

There’s about 25 pizza joints in a ten block radius around my area.

377 thecommodore  Tue, Oct 1, 2013 2:06:03am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

My favorite test question: “If pedestrians enter the street, you should immediately accelerate toward them, to scare them and teach them a lesson. True or False?”

On the Ohio written test, “Somebody died here” was a choice on every multiple choice question.

378 kerFuFFler  Tue, Oct 1, 2013 7:07:51am

So, are all the folks on Medicare like “crack addicts” because of their government dependency? Everyone on Medicare needs to recognize that that is what the GOP is suggesting.

Why the elderly give the GOP so much support beats me, but dementia and racism could account for some of it…


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