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No Malarkey!  Feb 24, 2022 • 10:59:41pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:10:54pm

I was wondering when we would see this.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:12:02pm
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No Malarkey!  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:16:01pm

re: #3 Dave In Austin

Dog, I hope these reports are true.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:17:28pm
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electrotek  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:26:56pm

Oh FFS

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:34:38pm

Concerning, to say the least. Brest is only about 10 miles (17 km) from the Polish border with Belarus.

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Targetpractice  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:49:06pm

re: #6 electrotek

Oh FFS

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Right, which is why he did everything in his power to fuck over our allies while arguing aloud on multiple occasions why we couldn’t be closer friends with Russia.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:52:08pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 24, 2022 • 11:56:13pm

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 12:07:02am

So, one of the Swedish Battalions posted this on their Facebook page. Good advice. I’ll share, as well as a generic version of it. Maybe something to combine with reused posters of old, as memes? 🤔🤔🤔

“The Armed Forces’ ships, vehicles, aircraft and soldiers will be visible in many places in Sweden in the future. Do not post information about where and when you see different parts of the defense appear, whether it is as a picture, film or text.”

Generic version:

The Armed Forces’ ships, vehicles, aircraft and soldiers will be visible in many places in in the future. Do not post information about where and when you see different parts of the defense appear, whether it is as a picture, film or text.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 12:16:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:05:55am

The Putinversteher over at moonofalabama posted today that the war in Ukraine was mostly America’s fault for backing Putin into a corner.

I am done with those dicks. Granted, there are some grievances and Ukraine has some major issues but nothing that would warrant an all-out invasion.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:08:07am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Putinversteher over at moonofalabama posted today that the war in Ukraine was mostly America’s fault for backing Putin into a corner.

I am done with those dicks. Granted, there are some grievances and Ukraine has some major issues but nothing that would warrant an all-out invasion.

I thought the ex-KGB thug dispelled most of those talking points the other day when he outright declared that he doesn’t believe Ukraine has the right to exist and he’s planning to take the country over to defeat the “Nazis”?

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:19:06am

Hadn’t heard of that place before.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:24:01am

re: #14 Targetpractice

I thought the ex-KGB thug dispelled most of those talking points the other day when he outright declared that he doesn’t believe Ukraine has the right to exist and he’s planning to take the country over to defeat the “Nazis”?

And that is what amazed me: those fuckers over there just doubled down in blaming the West and the Zionist/Nazi thugs running Ukraine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:27:28am

re: #15 William Lewis

Hadn’t heard of that place before.

MoA was a shadow site of whiskeybar, which I used to frequent around the time of the Iraq War. It has since been overrun by people who hate Western corporate Zionist capitalists so much that they will support anyone whose agenda counters their interests, to the point of supporting Lukaschenko.

They are the ones who brought me here over the Mohammad cartoons, when I came out against the mullahs calling for blood over a set of editorial cartoons, someone said “shouldn’t you be posting over at LGF?”

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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:27:49am

Tough one today.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:38:07am

re: #17 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It has since been overrun by people who hate Western corporate Zionist capitalists so much that they will support anyone whose agenda counters their interests, to the point of supporting Lukaschenko.

So you mean like half the lefties on Twitter.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:44:13am

re: #18 JC1

I got it in 4 after narrowing it down to 2 possibilities. My coin flip picked the wrong one of the 2 on line 3.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2022 • 1:47:37am

re: #16 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And that is what amazed me: those fuckers over there just doubled down in blaming the West and the Zionist/Nazi thugs running Ukraine.

Just reading the front page along feels like reading Soviet-era Pravda. Did you know that the Euromaiden revolution was actually a CIA-backed coup to remove the popular pro-Russian government in favor of a pro-US puppet? Or that Vlad had no choice but to invade now, as the US is totally planning to invade Russia by way of forcing Ukraine into NATO membership? Guessing by the posts, apparently his dick also must be more addictive than crack and heroin combined, from how hard they’re slobbering all over it.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2022 • 2:03:12am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 2:05:39am

re: #19 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

So you mean like half the lefties on Twitter.

so far left that they rationalize their support for right-wing authoritarian dictators as being “anticapitalist”, so “anti-Zionist” that they are more anti-Semitic than the Nazis.

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Targetpractice  Feb 25, 2022 • 2:39:59am

From all accounts, Russia is having a hell of a time executing that plan to just roll over the Ukrainian military and plant their flag. Even if only half the reports are accurate, they’ve lost several aircraft and tanks, they’ve had troops captured or deserted, and they’ve failed to take and hold vital objectives if they wanted a swift end to things. And this is just the invasion portion, we haven’t even begun the long slog that will be the inevitable occupation.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 25, 2022 • 3:31:16am

re: #1 No Malarkey!

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 3:35:07am

Well now, isn’t this interesting?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 3:52:00am

re: #26 William Lewis

Well now, isn’t this interesting?

Mind your Mannerheims!

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Ming5000  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:07:44am

Tucker Carlson enrages me.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:13:21am

*rolls eyes* Retire this “empath” bullshit ASAP. Like, empathy is not a special esper ability, it’s something almost all of us are friggin’ born with.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:22:47am

Mornin’ everyone. Sincere gratitude for the support in the previous thread. Needless to say my mind’s been racing all night. I’ve been preparing for this for some time. I’ll be fine. Just need to say thanks and good bye to dad. Everything else - family politics, estate concerns, etc. is really meaningless at this point.

Doing my ‘put the laptop on my chest and fall asleep to the warm glow of the screen’ thing I often do in the mornings.

Oh, and wordle tried to fuck me…but I eliminated all the consonant blends so the solution stood out fairly brightly.
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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:29:09am

re: #2 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I was wondering when we would see this.

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a slight warning that scrolling down that thread, we come to a photo of what i assume is a russian soldier who took a bullet to the head and is quite dead. fortunately, I saw don mctavish on youtube getting completely destroyed in the Permatex 300, so my stomach is stronger than it once was, but your results may vary.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:31:58am

Building a shit-ton of respect for the Ukranian people…and their women in particular.

independent.co.uk

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:33:10am

re: #29 Teukka

*rolls eyes* Retire this “empath” bullshit ASAP. Like, empathy is not a special esper ability, it’s something almost all of us are friggin’ born with.

Key word: Almost. The problem is, there seems to be a rather disturbing rise in those born without it. Either that, or people are choosing to abandon it, which is almost more disturbing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:36:22am

re: #29 Teukka

*rolls eyes* Retire this “empath” bullshit ASAP. Like, empathy is not a special esper ability, it’s something almost all of us are friggin’ born with.

I will tolerate empaths if they display cleavage like Commander Deana Troy…

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:36:42am

re: #20 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

I got it in 4 after narrowing it down to 2 possibilities. My coin flip picked the wrong one of the 2 on line 3.

yeah, one of those typical ones where my third choice was right except for the first letter, and then had to remember one of the easily forgotten rules—even in the same damned problem!—in order to finally get that one.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:38:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:38:59am

re: #33 Dopamine Fish

Key word: Almost. The problem is, there seems to be a rather disturbing rise in those born without it. Either that, or people are choosing to abandon it, which is almost more disturbing.

Some people seem to be born without it. This is seen as a form of mental illness.

For others, it is simply seen as a sign of weakness. (“Fuck your feelings!”) Which is a sickness in itself.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:39:37am
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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:43:09am

My standard starting words eliminated a lot of possibilities, leaving me racking my brain for possibilities that were actual English words I knew. First word that matched turned out to be the word.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:44:07am

Since I had to post this elsewhere, for thy copy/pasting needs. Links go to wikipedia pages on the topics.

A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians or intentionally killing prisoners of war, torture, taking hostages, unnecessarily destroying civilian property, deception by perfidy, wartime sexual violence, pillaging, the conscription of children in the military, committing genocide or ethnic cleansing, the granting of no quarter despite surrender, and flouting the legal distinctions of proportionality and military necessity.

War crimes, murder, massacres, dehumanization, genocide, ethnic cleansing, deportations, unethical human experimentation, extrajudicial punishments including summary executions, use of weapons of mass destruction, state terrorism or state sponsoring of terrorism, death squads, kidnappings and forced disappearances, use of child soldiers, unjust imprisonment, enslavement, torture, rape, political repression, racial discrimination, religious persecution and other human rights abuses may reach the threshold of crimes against humanity if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice.

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:45:45am

Wonder if they’ll take fat 58 year olds?

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:48:23am

Interesting idea over at dKos. Kick Russia out of the UEFA Champions League.

Russians love their soccer.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:49:24am

re: #30 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone. Sincere gratitude for the support in the previous thread. Needless to say my mind’s been racing all night. I’ve been preparing for this for some time. I’ll be fine. Just need to say thanks and good bye to dad. Everything else - family politics, estate concerns, etc. is really meaningless at this point.

Doing my ‘put the laptop on my chest and fall asleep to the warm glow of the screen’ thing I often do in the mornings.

Oh, and wordle tried to fuck me…but I eliminated all the consonant blends so the solution stood out fairly brightly.
Wordle 251 4/6

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I loved my mother dearly, but my dad’s death affected me more mentally, probably because I’d been hanging out with him, looking after him, for quite some time. And when it came time to break up the estate, it turned out that even four siblings who mostly really like each other can get pretty heated with one another, so just be prepared for that.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:53:27am

Here in Czech Republic, there’s a bank run on Sberbank underway, as jittery Czech accountholders are nervous that upcoming sanctions may force Sberbank out of the EU.

The Russo-Ukrainian war forced the Czech clients of Sberbank to act. They are starting to leave her and on Friday she even lost her internet banking.

Private individuals, companies and non-profit organizations have accounts with the Russian-connected Sberbank. Now they are distancing themselves from it due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Clients are cancelling their accounts with Sberbank and transferring to other companies. “We withdraw money from accounts with Sberbank and cancel it,” said the governor of the South Moravian Region, Jan Grolich, on Twitter.

“I am waiting here to transfer the money to another account, because the bank has lost its internet banking today. I’m worried about my money, I’m afraid they’re not safe here, “said one of the bank’s clients.

Another client in the approximately 30-meter queue is waiting to withdraw cash from his savings account. “I’m waiting for a cash withdrawal. I have to transfer it to another bank because I can’t leave it at home under the mattress. The fall of internet banking has not brought me here, I want cash withdrawals because I am worried that no financial orders done through Sberbank will work in the coming days. I no longer trust them”, the client said.

“We are afraid they will have no more cash for us. We’ve been waiting here for over an hour. I was here yesterday and they warned me that cash withdrawals can be a problem”, added another client waiting for cash deposited in the bank.

seznamzpravy.cz

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:53:54am

re: #43 steve_davis

I’ve got one brother who’s a lawyer - now disbarred - who has pissed away his family, their kids’ college education savings (they managed without his help), and whom my mother has been supporting financially for over a decade…and he believes in Qanon. He can fight with the others.

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Ming5000  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:56:28am

“Close the sky today”. I think Zelinski requests a no-fly zone.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 4:59:53am

re: #45 darthstar

I’ve got one brother who’s a lawyer - now disbarred - who has pissed away his family, their kids’ college education savings (they managed without his help), and whom my mother has been supporting financially for over a decade…and he believes in Qanon. He can fight with the others.

This is going to sound really cynical, but just be prepared for him to turn out to be the sane one when it comes to probate. I mean, I know movies make it look like people only fight over big stuff, like who’s getting money and how much, but in reality, the thing that caused us immediate tension was that my dad had designated my mom as the personal rep for the estate, and she pre-deceased him by some 20 years, so we had to spend the first month sweating that the son-of-a-bitch rotten lawyer that everyone hated might help himself to 10-15% of the estate in order to fulfill that function. I hated the guy, and he apparently hated me, but for some reason, he just took a real shine to my older sister and he allowed her to be the personal rep. He died an apparently horrible death roughly six months after the estate settled, so, I guess no comment on that one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:04:19am

I am concerned about what an occupied Ukraine will look like if partisan warfare spreads. It could get really ugly, especially as it will likely attract foreign mercenaries.

When Ukraine became independent, there was discussion of erecting a monument to the partisan leader Stepan Bandera, who fought against both the German and Russian occupiers during and after WW2.

Someone suggested that he be shown holding a crucifix in one and and in the other, a pitchfork with a dead Russian hanging from it. “Yes,” added a commentator, “and every day we change it out for a new dead Russian!”

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:20:20am

re: #48 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It’s not nice of me but I find that really funny ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:22:46am

re: #49 William Lewis

It’s not nice of me but I find that really funny ;)

Right after Gagarin’s flight, a young Ukrainian boy runs up to his grandpa: “Didushka! The Russians have flown into space!”

Grandpa’s eyes light up: “Really? All of them!”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:23:02am

DarthStar…….

Thinking of you today Brother. Stay strong. Private me your FB if you’re still on.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:23:51am
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DodgerFan1988  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:25:43am
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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:29:42am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The Putinversteher over at moonofalabama posted today that the war in Ukraine was mostly America’s fault for backing Putin into a corner.

I am done with those dicks. Granted, there are some grievances and Ukraine has some major issues but nothing that would warrant an all-out invasion.

We on the left have to stop qualifying our statements like this.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:32:07am

Too soon?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:33:39am

re: #54 Belafon

We on the left have to stop qualifying out statements like this.

At this point, yes. There was a time when I could even see some validity to Russia’s claims to the Crimea, but not the use of military force to exert them. And this invasion is well beyond the pale of what the world should even begin to accept.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:34:24am

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:35:08am

re: #29 Teukka

*rolls eyes* Retire this “empath” bullshit ASAP. Like, empathy is not a special esper ability, it’s something almost all of us are friggin’ born with.

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There definitely different levels, and a whole lot of people feel nothing. I know where she’s coming from. I can’t watch sitcoms because the awkward situations in those make me physically hurt. I think it’s those with a large amount of empathy that end up with PTSD.

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:37:35am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:38:13am
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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:38:55am
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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:40:10am

re: #42 darthstar

Interesting idea over at dKos. Kick Russia out of the UEFA Champions League.

Russians love their soccer.

They’ve been denied the right to host games by the UEFA.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:43:26am
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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:50:08am

re: #57 Dave In Austin

Kyiv.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:51:54am

re: #64 lawhawk

Kyiv.

Not effective as white propaganda—not enough walking-around people know it.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:55:21am

I’m fine with this.

She’d be better at the job than every last right winger on the bench.

She’s had to be to get where she is .

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:57:06am

re: #66 lawhawk

I’m fine with this.

She’d be better at the job than every last right winger on the bench.

She’s had to be to get where she is .

WOO HOO! She sounds like a great choice, from what I’ve heard. I can’t wait to hear the wingnuts screaming about ZOMG HE NOMINATED A BLACK WOMAN LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD and ZOMG HE’S TRYING TO DISTRACT FROM HIS FAILURE IN UKRAINE BY NOMINATING A HIGHLY DIVISIVE SCOTUS APPOINTEE. Count on it.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 5:57:58am

re: #64 lawhawk

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:00:08am

Given his denial of Ukraine as a nation, isn’t Putin technically committing genocide?

….genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
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His goal is to destroy the concept of Ukrainian as an identity and Ukraine as a nation.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:03:31am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

Given his denial of Ukraine as a nation, isn’t Putin technically committing genocide?

His goal is to destroy the concept of Ukrainian as an identity and Ukraine as a nation.

Putin should hang, but he has nuclear weapons, so the Russian people have to get that job done themselves.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:07:36am
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Florida Panhandler  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:09:38am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

Given his denial of Ukraine as a nation, isn’t Putin technically committing genocide?

His goal is to destroy the concept of Ukrainian as an identity and Ukraine as a nation.

Putin and his lapdogs in Russia have long expressed similar resentments and eliminationist rhetoric towards “the West” and much of the world in general.

Putin is much more than a mere genocidal maniac. Based on his rhetoric and now his actions he is a xenophobic threat to the entire world and I’m sure those around him used to wealth and power who thought he could be contained are now convinced the monster is loose and cannot be re-chained again. I suspect many of them now realize he must be eliminated the old school Russian way. Look for internal purges soon conducted by Putin as a dead giveaway.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:13:31am
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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:14:39am

re: #72 Florida Panhandler

Putin and his lapdogs in Russia have long expressed similar resentments and eliminationist rhetoric towards “the West” and much of the world in general.

Putin is much more than a mere genocidal maniac. Based on his rhetoric and now his actions he is a xenophobic threat to the entire world and I’m sure those around him used to wealth and power who thought he could be contained are now convinced the monster is loose and cannot be re-chained again. I suspect many of them now realize he must be eliminated the old school Russian way. Look for internal purges soon conducted by Putin as a dead giveaway.

it’s time for NATO to commit troops to this. I know it’s easy for me to say behind a keyboard, but fuck, so far what we’ve offered by way of pushback is pretty thin gruel. The Ukrainians are doing the best they can, but unless we would like to have the lesson for the world from this be that eliminating your nuclear weapons and having a democracy will get you overrun by your neighboring madman, it’s time to kick some ass.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:15:32am

re: #72 Florida Panhandler

Putin’s probably terrified his end comes like this - just imagine Putin in the place of Beria (played by Simon Russel Beale):

Youtube Video

The “old school Russian way”, indeed.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:20:35am

re: #74 steve_davis

it’s time for NATO to commit troops to this. I know it’s easy for me to say behind a keyboard, but fuck, so far what we’ve offered by way of pushback is pretty thin gruel. The Ukrainians are doing the best they can, but unless we would like to have the lesson for the world from this be that eliminating your nuclear weapons and having a democracy will get you overrun by your neighboring madman, it’s time to kick some ass.

It’s not having a democracy that subjects you to possible overthrow or invasion, it’s not having nuclear weapons. I doubt we would have been so eager to invade Iraq if Saddam actually possessed them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:22:58am

re: #75 Dr Lizardo

Putin’s probably terrified his end comes like this - just imagine Putin in the place of Beria (played by Simon Russel Beale):

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The “old school Russian way”, indeed.

Except Putin is Stalin not Beria in this scenario. None of Stalin’s minions would have dared to try to overthrow him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:27:37am
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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:28:46am

re: #78 The Pie Overlord!

Unless it was used as a shelter for troops, if I have my war crimes law correct - which is dubious at best.

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Florida Panhandler  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:28:54am

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Putin is Stalin not Beria in this scenario. None of Stalin’s minions would have dared to try to overthrow him.

There were many attempts to assassinate Stalin. They all failed.

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Captain Magic  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:30:30am

re: #69 Hecuba’s daughter

His goal is to destroy the concept of Ukrainian as an identity and Ukraine as a nation.

Sounds like what China is doing to Uyghurs, no?

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:31:28am

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Stalin was feared even as he was on his deathbed. Everyone feared he’d rise up from the dead like some Rasputin-like figure.

Putin’s end will come soon. Perhaps not soon enough for the majority of Russians, let alone Ukraine. The longer the invasion of Ukraine goes without a clear Russian win, the worse it gets for Putin and the more likely it becomes that the military sees this as a folly.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:35:22am

re: #82 lawhawk

Stalin was feared even as he was on his deathbed. Everyone feared he’d rise up from the dead like some Rasputin-like figure.

Putin’s end will come soon. Perhaps not soon enough for the majority of Russians, let alone Ukraine. The longer the invasion of Ukraine goes without a clear Russian win, the worse it gets for Putin and the more likely it becomes that the military sees this as a folly.

I’m worried for zelensky and family. I understand the rationale behind staying in the capitol, but the government needs to continue to function, even if it has to be a shadow government from elsewhere. Granted, Zelensky may be calculating that if he’s captured and executed, it might be the only way to force NATO to recover Ukraine from the Russians, but I think it would still work better for Ukraine if he continues to be the head of a government in exile, inspiring fighters and preventing Russia from being able to install a “legitimate” successor.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:36:32am

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Putin is Stalin not Beria in this scenario. None of Stalin’s minions would have dared to try to overthrow him.

There’s long been talk that Beria may have killed Stalin.

Beria would’ve known damn well that another purge was coming (the “Doctor’s Plot”) and he certainly remembered the fate of his predecessors, Yogoda and Yezhov. Beria could’ve easily obtained poison - the most commonly mentioned is warfarin - and he and Stalin would hang out quite frequently.

After the deaths of both Stalin and Beria, there was Kremlin gossip that Beria had a hand in Stalin’s demise. Now to be fair, Stalin was no spring chicken and had been chain-smoking for the better part of six decades. Stalin’s official cause of death was a massive cerebral hemorrhage, as per the autopsy.

Of course, there’s no proof (to the best of my knowledge) that Stalin was poisoned by a fearful Lavrenty Beria, worried that Stalin was gonna purge him next (Stalin’s motto being “stone dead hath no fellow”…another way of saying “dead men tell no tales”). And if proof someday did emerge, given Beria’s monstrous nature, I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:37:00am

re: #76 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s not having a democracy that subjects you to possible overthrow or invasion, it’s not having nuclear weapons. I doubt we would have been so eager to invade Iraq if Saddam actually possessed them.

Correct. Now, if Putin didn’t have nukes, his military would be non-existent after this BS.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:39:36am

re: #78 The Pie Overlord!

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:39:59am
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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:40:25am

Seriously, the reason I think they went after Chernobyl is to be a staging area where they think the could be free from counter attacks because of the risk of releasing radiation into the environment. Seems like the Russians did that anyways.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:41:08am

re: #74 steve_davis

it’s time for NATO to commit troops to this. I know it’s easy for me to say behind a keyboard, but fuck, so far what we’ve offered by way of pushback is pretty thin gruel. The Ukrainians are doing the best they can, but unless we would like to have the lesson for the world from this be that eliminating your nuclear weapons and having a democracy will get you overrun by your neighboring madman, it’s time to kick some ass.

No. As tragic as this is for Ukraine, we can’t risk a nuclear war. If Putin thinks he can swiftly install a puppet government in Kyiv then all will be well, he is going to learn some hard lessons we just spent 20 years learning in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:46:40am

re: #89 No Malarkey!

No. As tragic as this is for Ukraine, we can’t risk a nuclear war. If Putin thinks he can swiftly install a puppet government in Kyiv then all will be well, he is going to learn some hard lessons we just spent 20 years learning in Iraq and Afghanistan.

For me, it’s a tough call. Maybe if Russian soldiers started committing mass atrocities against the civilian population, that might be enough to spark a NATO intervention in Ukraine. As for the risk of nuclear war, we’ve been much closer to the brink than this. Hell, the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example. The question is that delicate game of chicken: Say we intervened - how far could we push Russia out of Ukraine before the red balloon goes up?

Personally, I say the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, plus Crimea. That’s Putin’s absolute red line. He would go nuclear rather than lose Crimea.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:47:26am

re: #89 No Malarkey!

No. As tragic as this is for Ukraine, we can’t risk a nuclear war. If Putin thinks he can swiftly install a puppet government in Kyiv then all will be well, he is going to learn some hard lessons we just spent 20 years learning in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Putin is doing fine with his puppet government in Belarus.

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jeffreyw  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:47:50am

winner, winner

Good morning!

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:52:00am

re: #28 Ming5000

Tucker Carlson enrages me.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:52:58am

Just a little update on the Sberbank situation I posted earlier, Sberbank Czech Republic closed all of its branches in the country at 2 pm local time, no reason was given. No word yet either on when they’ll reopen.

There’s also a boycott of all Russian services underway here in Czech Republic as protest against Russia’s illegal war and occupation against Ukraine.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:53:04am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

For me, it’s a tough call. Maybe if Russian soldiers started committing mass atrocities against the civilian population, that might be enough to spark a NATO intervention in Ukraine. As for the risk of nuclear war, we’ve been much closer to the brink than this. Hell, the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example. The question is that delicate game of chicken: Say we intervened - how far could we push Russia out of Ukraine before the red balloon goes up?

Personally, I say the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, plus Crimea. That’s Putin’s absolute red line. He would go nuclear rather than lose Crimea.

I say help Ukraine as much as we can to fight for themselves. Putin has just shown he isn’t a rational actor, and he has the biggest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world, so we can’t make assumptions for what his red line for the use of nukes would be if NATO forces engaged Russians in Ukraine. As Iraqis showed us, a committed insurgency can keep large regular army units tied up for years to come, and send a lot of Russians home in body bags with crude but effective weapons.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:53:40am

re: #89 No Malarkey!

No. As tragic as this is for Ukraine, we can’t risk a nuclear war. If Putin thinks he can swiftly install a puppet government in Kyiv then all will be well, he is going to learn some hard lessons we just spent 20 years learning in Iraq and Afghanistan.

we have ways of avoiding that. biden can have a very private talk with putin, indicating that NATO will play with sandbox rules in Ukraine: everything will be contained in Ukraine, we won’t spill over into Russian territory. Russia can bring as many troops as it wants into the Ukraine conflict and that will be fine. We won’t attack Russian forces outside the Ukraine zone. Hell, we did it in Korea and Vietnam.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:54:53am

re: #93 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:55:47am
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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:55:49am

re: #96 steve_davis

we have ways of avoiding that. biden can have a very private talk with putin, indicating that NATO will play with sandbox rules in Ukraine: everything will be contained in Ukraine, we won’t spill over into Russian territory. Russia can bring as many troops as it wants into the Ukraine conflict and that will be fine. We won’t attack Russian forces outside the Ukraine zone. Hell, we did it in Korea and Vietnam.

And what makes you think Putin is willing to play by rules made in D.C.? If this Ukraine adventure ends in rapid, humiliating defeat for Russia, Putin is as good as dead, and he is entirely likely to be willing to take the entire world with him.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:57:28am

re: #95 No Malarkey!

I say help Ukraine as much as we can to fight for themselves. Putin has just shown he isn’t a rational actor, and he has the biggest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world, so we can’t make assumptions for what his red line for the us of nukes would be if NATO forces engaged Russians in Ukraine. As Iraqis showed us, a committed insurgency can keep large regular army units tied up for years to come, and send a lot of Russians home in body bags with crude but effective weapons.

Remember though, the Russian military is notorious for carrying out atrocities against civilian populations. I can all too easily imagine them pulling a modern-day Lidice Massacre as reprisal measures.

Then the question becomes, do we - as NATO - sit back while Russian soldiers gun down entire villages, men, women and children, and wag our finger at Putin, telling him to stop being such a naughty boy?

I have little doubt whatsoever that the Russian military will carry out atrocities against Ukrainian civilians.

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:57:47am

Arms distribution to anyone willing to fight for Ukraine:

Youtube Video

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:58:57am

re: #91 Hecuba’s daughter

Putin is doing fine with his puppet government in Belarus.

And if Putin thinks Ukraine is Belarus and not Iraq or Afghanistan, he may have made a very serious miscalculation.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 6:59:36am

re: #98 Teukka

Putin is calling PM and President of Ukraine Nazis. Both are Jewish.

Putin isn’t making a secret of his absolute disregard for reality (just like another thug - Trump).

Zelensky is the legitimately elected leader of the sovereign Ukraine. Putin’s the autocrat who rewrote laws to stay in power. This is just more projecting like IMAX.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:00:25am

re: #78 The Pie Overlord!

I can confirm, the images are really graphic. Turns my stomach. I may describe if asked, but only behind spoiler… If Vlad and the Kremlin Krew don’t pay for this in full…
*roars and breathes fire*

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:01:43am

re: #71 Dr Lizardo

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All too often they call personnel carriers “tanks”. Not this time :D

Those are Challenger II’s. Arguably the most advanced tank in the world. I’d not want to be in a T90 against that.

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William Lewis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:04:47am

re: #79 Dopamine Fish

Unless it was used as a shelter for troops, if I have my war crimes law correct - which is dubious at best.

If troops were in there, it would be a legitimate target.

I doubt that there would be. Ukrainian Ground Forces have shown themselves too professional and disciplined for that.

What you had was a pilot who didn’t care what the target was.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:06:01am

re: #100 Dr Lizardo

Remember though, the Russian military is notorious for carrying out atrocities against civilian populations. I can all too easily imagine them pulling a modern-day Lidice Massacre as reprisal measures.

Then the question becomes, do we - as NATO - sit back while Russian soldiers gun down entire villages, men, women and children, and wag our finger at Putin, telling him to stop being such a naughty boy?

I have little doubt whatsoever that the Russian military will carry out atrocities against Ukrainian civilians.

Maybe so. But there are very close ties between Ukrainians and Russians, lots of them have relatives in Ukraine, and there is a good chance they will refuse such orders. I thought the Red Army would massacre the protestors in Moscow in 1991, but they didn’t, and the coup failed. In any event, a global nuclear holocaust is too great a risk to take; Biden’s first duty is the defense of the U.S.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:07:26am

Our pilots didn’t target Iraqi weddings, but we hit a few. There is a lot of optimism in the terms “precision weapon” and “military intelligence”..

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:08:15am

Czech Republic has suspended the issuance of visas (with the singular exception of educational visas) to all Russians. Family visas, work visas, all of them are scrapped for Russians. You simply cannot get a visa if you’re Russian.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:08:57am

Jesus…apparently the car’s driver survived.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:10:06am

Another one for “We’re not making this shit up, really”…

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:10:49am

Czech Republic and Poland have closed their respective airspace for all Russian airliners.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:11:17am

re: #111 Teukka

Another one for “We’re not making this shit up, really”…

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If reports are true that some Russian soldiers are dressed in Ukrainian uniforms, well, we might see it.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:11:44am

re: #111 Teukka

Heh. Sounds like things aren’t going so well for Putin if he’s having to resort to that.

Smells like….flop sweat.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:14:22am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

More sauce for the goose. You aren’t making demands like this if you’re winning and can finish off the Ukrainian govt. It’s something that reeks of trying to cut losses and hope people are bluffed into accepting a bad hand.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:14:24am

re: #114 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Sounds like things aren’t going so well for Putin if he’s having to resort to that.

Smells like….flop sweat.

Also, the thing about the call with Xi that occurs to me—China is in a fix if the global economy sinks. They manage public approval through propaganda of course, but what really matters is economic growth. It’s why they kept the renminbi artificially low for so long.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:18:04am

re: #110 darthstar

Jesus…apparently the car’s driver survived.

Now I’m severely pissed off…..

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:19:03am

re: #115 lawhawk

More sauce for the goose. You aren’t making demands like this if you’re winning and can finish off the Ukrainian govt. It’s something that reeks of trying to cut losses and hope people are bluffed into accepting a bad hand.

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Yep. I’d change the Ukrainian demands.

Russia withdraws from the entirety of Ukraine, including Crimea. However, understanding that it’s important for the Black Sea Fleet, we’ll lease it to you for $10 a year.

Russia will accept Ukraine’s accession to the EU and NATO, if it so chooses.

Vladimir Putin will shoot himself on live TV, after saying, “I hereby resign, effective immediately.” If that’s too much for Pootie-Poot, he will submit to arrest and be handed over for trial on war crimes and crimes against humanity charges.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:20:07am

It gets WILDER:

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:20:37am

So, Graham’s busy kvetching over Biden’s pick of Jackson for the Court.

Graham voted to confirm Jackson to the Circuit Court just this past June. Does that make Graham a blackout drunk who can’t remember what happened, a radical lefty for approving her for the Court, or both?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:21:50am

re: #119 Teukka

It gets WILDER:

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OK, time to tell Putin to go pound sand. Finland and Sweden tell the Russians to go fuck themselves and state quite clearly, “We’ll do as we goddamn please.”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:22:42am
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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:23:44am

re: #119 Teukka

It gets WILDER:

CONFIRMED:

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:26:11am

re: #123 Teukka

CONFIRMED:

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So Russia is basically threatening NATO.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:26:56am

re: #123 Teukka

CONFIRMED:

Russian foreign ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova warns Finland and Sweden they would ‘face some military and political consequences’ if they tried to join Nato

Consequently, Finland and Sweden they will ‘face some military and political consequences’ if they don’t join NATO.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:27:27am

re: #119 Teukka

It gets WILDER:

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oh well, if I know the Finns, that’ll definitely keep them out /////

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:27:33am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Consequently, Finland and Sweden they will ‘face some military and political consequences’ if they don’t join NATO.

Well, Finland will, for sure. Does Russia consider Sweden one of its historical territories?

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:28:01am

re: #124 darthstar

So Russia is basically threatening NATO.

Yep. Why do I feel that Sweden will trip the Readiness Alarm before this weekend is out?

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:29:11am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

Well, Finland will, for sure. Does Russia consider Sweden one of its historical territories?

Their statement indicates that they consider it a nation whose foreign policy they can dictate.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:29:28am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

Well, Finland will, for sure. Does Russia consider Sweden one of its historical territories?

yes, finnish consequences would be 1) a whole shit ton of NATO forces would be happy to bolster its defenses; and 2)Russia would cut off political ties, which probably aren’t going to amount to much anyway considering the sanctions on Russia aren’t coming off anytime soon.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:31:25am

This is interesting….

At least two of China’s largest state-owned banks are restricting financing for purchases of Russian commodities, underscoring the limits of Beijing’s pledge to maintain economic ties with one of its most important strategic partners in the face of sanctions by the U.S. and its allies.

Maybe behind-the-scenes, we asked the Chinese, “Hey, would you like some sanctions too? We got sanctions for every motherfucker all up in here!!”

Read more at: bloombergquint.com

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:31:29am

Important considerations mitigating against NATO intervention into Ukraine, besides the risk of nuclear war, are that first, I doubt Russia has the capacity to sustain a long term military occupation of Ukraine, so this adventure is likely to fail if we just give it time. Second, a lot of Russians are opposing this war and its possible that domestic opposition could become a serious problem for Putin. If NATO intervenes, it could rally Russians around the flag. Third, most of the world is opposing this blatantly illegal imperialist attack; if we widen the conflict to make it NATO v. Russia, suddenly its Russia that looks like the victim of Western imperialists, at least in some places, such as China. I am very confident that NATO forces are not going to enter Ukraine to fight the Russian army.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:34:37am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

Just threaten to freeze WalMart and China will bend.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:35:16am

re: #132 No Malarkey!

Important considerations mitigating against NATO intervention into Ukraine, besides the risk of nuclear war, are that first, I doubt Russia has the capacity to sustain a long term military occupation of Ukraine, so this adventure is likely to fail if we just give it time. Second, a lot of Russians are opposing this war and its possible that domestic opposition could become a serious problem for Putin. If NATO intervenes, it could rally Russians around the flag. Third, most of the world is opposing this blatantly illegal imperialist attack; if we widen the conflict to make it NATO v. Russia, suddenly its Russia that looks like the victim of Western imperialists, at least in some places, such as China. I am very confident that NATO forces are not going to enter Ukraine to fight the Russia army.

I’m just a little queasy about the Ukrainian government agreeing to really bad terms, just in the interests of keeping its populace alive. I want us to offer some kind of help beyond just the javelins and some sanctions that Russia prepared for, though I also realize coming in like Crusaders isn’t realistic. Will the Ukrainians be able to resist long enough and hard enough to make Russian occupancy untenable?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:35:29am

re: #132 No Malarkey!

Important considerations mitigating against NATO intervention into Ukraine, besides the risk of nuclear war, are that first, I doubt Russia has the capacity to sustain a long term military occupation of Ukraine, so this adventure is likely to fail if we just give it time. Second, a lot of Russians are opposing this war and its possible that domestic opposition could become a serious problem for Putin. If NATO intervenes, it could rally Russians around the flag. Third, most of the world is opposing this blatantly illegal imperialist attack; if we widen the conflict to make it NATO v. Russia, suddenly its Russia that looks like the victim of Western imperialists, at least in some places, such as China. I am very confident that NATO forces are not going to enter Ukraine to fight the Russia army.

Those are very good points. And it seems like despite surface appearances, things might not be going so well for the Russian Army.

Hoo, boy….could you just imagine if the Russians were forced to withdraw back to those so-called “People’s Republics” in Donetsk and Luhansk? It’d be a strategic debacle and Putin would end up looking like a reckless adventurer who rolled the dice and squandered it all.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:36:58am

Looks like the Pennsylvania branch of the Onevoy is over.
dailykos.com

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:37:23am

Man did I stare long and hard at this one.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:37:33am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Those are very good points. And it seems like despite surface appearances, things might not be going so well for the Russian Army.

Hoo, boy….could you just imagine if the Russians were forced to withdraw back to those so-called “People’s Republics” in Donetsk and Luhansk? It’d be a strategic debacle and Putin would end up looking like a reckless adventurer who rolled the dice and squandered it all.

I take great pleasure in thinking about Putin realizing that every Russian tank destroyed is basically coming with a “hi, I was made in the good ol’ USA!” message attached to the killing device.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:38:40am

re: #66 lawhawk

I’m fine with this.

She’d be better at the job than every last right winger on the bench.

She’s had to be to get where she is .

So presumably Joe found a way to mollify the South Carolinians (who had their own homegirl to put up)? Though maybe there’s another senior seat to fill….

ETA: oops, didn’t see #120

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:38:47am

It’s Pop Geopolitics, but didn’t the reports state that we had guaranteed Ukrainian territorial integrity somewhere along the way? Making that a sham will have long-term global consequences.

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lizardofid  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:39:22am

re: #131 Dr Lizardo

This is interesting….

Maybe behind-the-scenes, we asked the Chinese, “Hey, would you like some sanctions too? We got sanctions for every motherfucker all up in here!!”

Read more at: bloombergquint.com

Looks like they might be telling Putin, we’ll still trade, but we’re not going to wash your money for you.

Oh, good morning!

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:40:23am

re: #89 No Malarkey!

No. As tragic as this is for Ukraine, we can’t risk a nuclear war. If Putin thinks he can swiftly install a puppet government in Kyiv then all will be well, he is going to learn some hard lessons we just spent 20 years learning in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How many European countries are you willing to give up to avoid nuclear war?

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:42:19am

re: #134 steve_davis

I’m just a little queasy about the Ukrainian government agreeing to really bad terms, just in the interests of keeping its populace alive. I want us to offer some kind of help beyond just the javelins and some sanctions that Russia prepared for, though I also realize coming in like Crusaders isn’t realistic. Will the Ukrainians be able to resist long enough and hard enough to make Russian occupancy untenable?

Yes, if they have the will to. US resources are essentially limitless, and yet Iraqi and Afghan insurgents eventually rendered our occupation untenable. Russia’s resources are vastly more limited than ours, and this war is already unpopular in Russia.

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lizardofid  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:42:22am

re: #133 darthstar

Just threaten to freeze WalMart and China will bend.

Just announcing that Sec. Blinken is making an official trip to Bentonville might do it.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:43:32am

re: #98 Teukka

I suspect Ukraine isn’t going to settle for China and Russia deciding their borders.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:44:42am

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Those are very good points. And it seems like despite surface appearances, things might not be going so well for the Russian Army.

Hoo, boy….could you just imagine if the Russians were forced to withdraw back to those so-called “People’s Republics” in Donetsk and Luhansk? It’d be a strategic debacle and Putin would end up looking like a reckless adventurer who rolled the dice and squandered it all.

That is exactly what I think is going to happen, which is why I was frankly surprised that Putin was willing to gamble on a reckless full scale invasion of Ukraine, instead of a limited occupation of the separatist regions.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:47:42am

re: #119 Teukka

It gets WILDER:

How to get countries to join NATO.

Step 1:

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HRH Stanley Sea  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:47:50am

Tough.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:48:13am

Several pro-Kremlin Czech language websites have just been taken offline by order of the Ministry of the Interior.

The following websites were taken down: Aeronet, Protiproud, Ceskobezcenzury, Voxpopuliblog, Prvnizpravy, Czechfreepress, Exanpro and Skrytapravda.

These were super-hardcore pro-Kremlin disinformation websites, all primary sources of the vast majority of Russian disinfo circulating in the country.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:48:52am

If you need a five-minute break for some beautiful cat footage (I’ve been to the Nebuta festival featured at the end; it’s really something).

www3.nhk.or.jp

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:49:42am

re: #142 Belafon

How many European countries are you willing to give up to avoid nuclear war?

Ukraine. Russia doesn’t have the capacity to invade any other country while most of its army is tied down in Ukraine. Putin will have no way to free them up for other adventures without losing Ukraine, because any puppet government he installs would fall as fast as Kabul did last year without the Russian army to back it up.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:55:07am

Above and beyond

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:56:48am

re: #127 Dopamine Fish

Well, Finland will, for sure. Does Russia consider Sweden one of its historical territories?

Former mortal enemy.

The Russians still say that somebody “fell like a Swede at (the Battle of) Poltava” when they go down hard, be it from drinking, a bar fight, a rolling pin to the forehead etc…

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:57:08am

Ukraine ready for talks with Russia about maintaining a neutral status. news.yahoo.com

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 7:59:57am

Can’t wait to learn how many times she took the 5th.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:01:36am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:01:50am

re: #155 lawhawk

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Can’t wait to learn how many times she took the 5th.

or drinks one

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sagehen  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:01:54am

re: #139 Jay C

So presumably Joe found a way to mollify the South Carolinians (who had their own homegirl to put up)? Though maybe there’s another senior seat to fill….

ETA: oops, didn’t see #120

I was sort of pulling for Childs as well. Because

1) she’s not Ivy.
2) Jim Clyburn deserves a flashy win.

But Ketanji doesn’t bother me. And maybe Childs will be named to Ketanji’s seat on the DC Appellate Court.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:04:15am

re: #29 Teukka

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:04:44am

re: #147 Belafon

How to get countries to join NATO.

Step 1:

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:05:44am

re: #154 No Malarkey!

Ukraine ready for talks with Russia about maintaining a neutral status. news.yahoo.com

Just guessing here, but if this were going to end well for Putin, it would have ended already. Everything anyone publishes in this kind of situation is bullshit, but Ukraine still obviously exists, and that’s all it has to do.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:07:58am

re: #159 Belafon

Dealing with reports of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide will be rough on anyone. Take breaks from the task, especially if it involves gross crimes. Take measures to mitigate what’s known in the field as “vicarious traumatization”.

CW/TW: War Crimes bellingcat.com Although originally intended for the conflict in Syria, this will show you the basic ropes on what vicarious traumatization is, how it expresses itself, and how you can take steps to mitigate and treat it. CW/TW: War Crimes

Wikipedia articles on subject: en.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:08:26am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:09:16am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:10:02am

re: #162 Teukka

Dealing with reports of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide will be rough on anyone. Take breaks from the task, especially if it involves gross crimes. Take measures to mitigate what’s known in the field as “vicarious traumatization”.

CW/TW: War Crimes bellingcat.com Although originally intended for the conflict in Syria, this will show you the basic ropes on what vicarious traumatization is, how it expresses itself, and how you can take steps to mitigate and treat it. CW/TW: War Crimes

Wikipedia articles on subject: en.wikipedia.org and en.wikipedia.org

The US has a couple hundred cable channels streaming atrocity porn 24/7. We’re pretty well de-sensitized.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:13:31am

re: #163 Dopamine Fish

Ted is a real pusillanimous fuck. In certain boneheaded circles, PP is thought to be gay and she and Marcie are a lesbian couple. I have little doubt that TC had that nuance at the back of his twisted little mind when he came out with those comments.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:15:53am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:16:11am

I spent way too much time staring at the abyss before the abyss stared back at me.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:18:02am

re: #153 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Former mortal enemy.

The Russians still say that somebody “fell like a Swede at (the Battle of) Poltava” when they go down hard, be it from drinking, a bar fight, a rolling pin to the forehead etc…

Heh. Russians have long memories: I think they’re still pissed at France over Napoleon’s invasion: and they haven’t forgotten either that they’re only a maritime power because Peter the Great had to conquer the Baltic shores from the Swedes in the early 1700s.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:19:06am
In line with the Statute of the Council of Europe, the Committee of Ministers has today decided to suspend the Russian Federation from its rights of representation in the Committee of Ministers and in the Parliamentary Assembly with immediate effect as a result of the Russian Federation’s armed attack on Ukraine.

The decision adopted today means that the Russian Federation remains a member of the Council of Europe and party to the relevant Council of Europe conventions, including the European Convention on Human Rights.

The judge elected to the European Court of Human Rights in respect of the Russian Federation also remains a member of the Court, and applications introduced against the Russian Federation will continue to be examined and decided by the Court. Suspension is not a final measure but a temporary one, leaving channels of communication open.

coe.int

“How To Win Friends and Influence People: Kremlin Edition”

LOLOL

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lizardofid  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:22:13am

I too stared into the abyss. Perhaps even longer.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:22:24am

re: #158 sagehen

I was sort of pulling for Childs as well. Because

1) she’s not Ivy.
2) Jim Clyburn deserves a flashy win.

But Ketanji doesn’t bother me. And maybe Childs will be named to Ketanji’s seat on the DC Appellate Court.

Kinda what I thought. Is Judge Jackson’s seat senior to the one Childs currently occupies, or would it be a “sideways promotion”?

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:23:02am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:25:41am

re: #173 Teukka

That should settle it, then.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:26:49am

Becoming a loaf.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:27:03am

re: #173 Teukka

Putin surrenders immediately.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:27:13am

re: #173 Teukka

“I am the Lion of Love”

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:30:32am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:30:35am

re: #177 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“I am the Lion of Love”

Send these guys over to the Kremlin, and Putin will immediate capitulate and hail Mr. Lordi as Russia’s new Tsar….

Lordi - Hard Rock Hallelujah (Finland) 2006 Eurovision Song Contest Winner

And yeah…..Lordi actually won that year’s Eurovision contest.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:30:49am

re: #146 No Malarkey!

That is exactly what I think is going to happen, which is why I was frankly surprised that Putin was willing to gamble on a reckless full scale invasion of Ukraine, instead of a limited occupation of the separatist regions.

I wonder if Putin over-estimated how much help his western fifth column would be, that massive pro-Russian demonstrations and political action would force western governments to withdraw their support for Ukraine or even advise immediate surrender. They have certainly paid a lot of attention to Tucker Carlson and similar tools. How could the Russians miscalculate so badly when they have conducted the most successful propaganda and subversion campaign in history during the last few years? I think their efforts succeeded only because they had such a vast supply of willing accomplices in the corrupt Republican party and its European analogs. They are not really especially good at it, as shown by their support for the farcical California and Texas secession movements.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:32:17am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:32:41am

Not gonna happen.

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sagehen  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:33:25am

re: #172 Jay C

Kinda what I thought. Is Judge Jackson’s seat senior to the one Childs currently occupies, or would it be a “sideways promotion”?

per wiki:
en.wikipedia.org

In January 2021, U.S. Representative Jim Clyburn sent a letter to President Biden’s transition team encouraging Biden to nominate Childs to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit.[27] On December 23, 2021, Biden announced Childs as his nominee for that court,[28] and her nomination was sent to the Senate on January 10. Childs’s nomination is pending before the Senate Judiciary Committee.[27] The seat had been vacated by Judge David S. Tatel, who will assume senior status upon confirmation of a successor.[29]

On January 28, 2022, the White House stated that Childs was among those being considered for nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court, to fill the seat that will be left vacant after Justice Stephen Breyer’s retirement.[30][31] Two days later, one of her home-state U.S. senators, Republican Lindsey Graham, voiced his support for her potential nomination.[32] Childs’ surprising ascent from district court judge to supreme court finalist can also be attributed to Jim Clyburn, the number 3 Democrat in the house who has been lobbying Biden to nominate Childs notwithstanding concerns over Childs’ conservative record as a judge and trial lawyer.[33]

Labor rights groups have voiced their displeasure with Childs’ consideration for the U.S. Supreme Court given her private sector experience working at a law firm many considered to be an “anti-union” law firm.[34]


ETA: 11th Appellate Circuit is definitely a promotion.from district court judge. Any appellate seat would be, but especially the 11th.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:34:35am

Mark Zuckerberg should send Putin a butthurt report form….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:34:53am

Night is upon Kyiv again, and the sirens are wailing

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:37:46am

re: #185 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Night is upon Kyiv again, and the sirens are wailing

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Video

Blackouts aren’t as effective as they used to be, but where is their sense of nostalgia?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:38:04am

re: #185 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Night is upon Kyiv again, and the sirens are wailing

[Embedded content]

OK, a number of fighters are flying around overhead here in Jacksonville as I posted that.
Invokes a rather weird feeling hearing the two sounds together, though continents apart

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:38:53am

re: #90 Dr Lizardo

For me, it’s a tough call. Maybe if Russian soldiers started committing mass atrocities against the civilian population, that might be enough to spark a NATO intervention in Ukraine. As for the risk of nuclear war, we’ve been much closer to the brink than this. Hell, the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example. The question is that delicate game of chicken: Say we intervened - how far could we push Russia out of Ukraine before the red balloon goes up?

Personally, I say the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, plus Crimea. That’s Putin’s absolute red line. He would go nuclear rather than lose Crimea.

We were dealing with Khrushchev then and not Putin. Khrushchev was a thoroughly rational actor and not a reckless paranoid planning to restore a lost empire.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:40:08am

re: #188 Hecuba’s daughter

We were dealing with Khrushchev then and not Putin. Khrushchev was a thoroughly rational actor and not a reckless paranoid planning to restore a lost empire.

You’re defining a “Nutcase Veto”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:41:55am

re: #179 Dr Lizardo

Send these guys over to the Kremlin, and Putin will immediate capitulate and hail Mr. Lordi as Russia’s new Tsar….

And yeah…..Lordi actually won that year’s Eurovision contest.

A buddy of mine was working in Finland the year that they won and named his project

Laser-Organic Digital Interface

(LORDI)

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:44:16am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:46:23am

re: #191 Teukka

Russia trying to piss everyone off, it seems.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:46:27am

BOOM

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:46:48am

re: #77 Hecuba’s daughter

Except Putin is Stalin not Beria in this scenario. None of Stalin’s minions would have dared to try to overthrow him.

Beria would. I have long suspected that Beria did.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:47:06am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:47:20am

re: #125 Decatur Deb

Consequently, Finland and Sweden they will ‘face some military and political consequences’ if they don’t join NATO.

Bully rants louder as the playground kids realize that banding together is the only viable way to stop the bully.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:47:51am

re: #192 Eclectic Cyborg

Russia trying to piss everyone off, it seems.

Did their submarines surface to machine-gun the survivors?

They are really trying to play Kaiser Wilhelm in 1917.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:48:51am

re: #190 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A buddy of mine was working in Finland the year that they won and named his project

Laser-Organic Digital Interface

(LORDI)

My ex were watching that and when Lordi won, my ex turned to me and said, “What?! Seriously?”

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:50:39am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

My ex were watching that and when Lordi won, my ex turned to me and said, “What?! Seriously?”

*whistles as he walks by and drops an URL*

Lordi - Hard Rock Hallelujah

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:51:30am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I think Putin’s overestimated one helluva lot of things. From all accounts, he’s been cooped up the last two years because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Left pretty much alone, with his thoughts, and getting high on his own flatulence.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:51:41am
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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:56:38am

re: #200 Dr Lizardo

I think Putin’s overestimated one helluva lot of things. From all accounts, he’s been cooped up the last two years because of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Left pretty much alone, with his thoughts, and getting high on his own flatulence.

Plausible.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 8:58:12am

The hits just keep on comin’…..

Translation: “German authorities have terminated export credit insurance for Russia - Handelsblatt newspaper, citing sources in the Ministry of Economy”

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:00:06am

re: #191 Teukka

Going at merchant shipping is how you get the United States to go to war. Just ask the Germans how well it went in 1917 when they sank the Lusitania.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:00:33am

Translation: “Since February 24, the German brand Audi has stopped shipping cars to dealerships in the Russian Federation. In addition, messages of a similar nature were recorded from General Motors, Volkswagen, Skoda and Land Rover.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:00:38am

re: #198 Dr Lizardo

My ex were watching that and when Lordi won, my ex turned to me and said, “What?! Seriously?”

Eurovision is a mystery. I have an Australian friend who is a big fan (Australia is an honorary member of Eurovision, go figure) and every time I watch it with her I come away shaking my head in dispbelief.

There was already a big blowup over a Ukrainian artist doing a song that Russia found offensive from 2016 about how the Russians ethically cleansed the Crimean Tatars for supporting Germany in WW2.

Youtube Video

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:01:47am

re: #137 Eventual Carrion

Man did I stare long and hard at this one.

Wordle 251 4/6

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You and I faced a similar dilemma!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:02:57am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

Going at merchant shipping is how you get the United States to go to war. Just ask the Germans how well it went in 1917 when they sank the Lusitania.

Zimmerman Tweet.

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:04:07am

re: #207 Hecuba’s daughter

You and I faced a similar dilemma!

Wordle 251 4/6
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similar, yet…

Wordle 251 4/6

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:05:06am

The gang from NASASpaceflight are streaming the west coast SpaceX Starlink launch.
TO about 7 minutes away

Youtube Video

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:07:16am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:07:18am

If the votes of the right 50,000 Americans had been suppressed or discounted, Putin would have a free hand to do anything he wants.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:08:20am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:09:10am
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:09:21am

re: #209 wrenchwench

similar, yet…

Wordle 251 4/6

⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
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⬜⬜⬜🟧⬜
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That’s my 3rd one without any correct letters in incorrect places. In a row.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:09:34am

re: #204 Dopamine Fish

Going at merchant shipping is how you get the United States to go to war. Just ask the Germans how well it went in 1917 when they sank the Lusitania.

Minor points: it was May, 1915, and the Lusitania was a British, not an American vessel, and thus somewhat of a vaguely “legitimate” target. Especially as it was suspected (and later confirmed) that she was, indeed, carrying some armaments. Not that most U-boat captains would have cared anyway…

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:09:54am

Zing!!

and

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:09:56am

Another possible motivation: Putin was advised that his economy was steering off a cliff. What is the best way for him to distract from it and blame the faltering economy on Western Sanctions?

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Dopamine Fish  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:10:30am

re: #216 Jay C

Minor points: it was May, 1915, and the Lusitania was a British, not an American vessel, and thus somewhat of a vaguely “legitimate” target. Especially as it was suspected (and later confirmed) that she was, indeed, carrying some armaments. Not that most U-boat captains would have cared anyway…

Sorry, you’re right on the date. And yes, while the RMS Lusitania was a British vessel (which I knew), the presence of Americans on board the ship, as well as the secret nature of the armaments it was carrying (by necessity), caused widespread outrage in the States.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:12:48am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Another possible motivation: Putin was advised that his economy was steering off a cliff. What is the best way for him to distract from it and blame the faltering economy on Western Sanctions?

He also could’ve subscribed to the notion that war stimulates the economy. Which really only works if you don’t end up getting your ass handed to you in the long run.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:14:11am

re: #219 Dopamine Fish

Sorry, you’re right on the date. And yes, while the RMS Lusitania was a British vessel (which I knew), the presence of Americans on board the ship, as well as the secret nature of the armaments it was carrying (by necessity), caused widespread outrage in the States.

I could swear reading that the Germans actually published a notice in one of the big American newspapers that the RMS Lusitania was liable to be sunk as a legit war target, and warned Americans not to sail on her.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:14:23am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

He also could’ve subscribed to the notion that war stimulates the economy. Which really only works if you don’t end up getting your ass handed to you in the long run.

That might work (at least in the short term) in a capitalist economy that needs a shot in the arm, not in his oligarchic mess that is staggering along and barely functioning.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:15:24am

re: #180 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

I wonder if Putin over-estimated how much help his western fifth column would be, that massive pro-Russian demonstrations and political action would force western governments to withdraw their support for Ukraine or even advise immediate surrender. They have certainly paid a lot of attention to Tucker Carlson and similar tools. How could the Russians miscalculate so badly when they have conducted the most successful propaganda and subversion campaign in history during last few years? I think their efforts succeeded only because they had such a vast supply of willing accomplices in the corrupt Republican party and its European analogs. They are not really especially good at it, as shown by their support for the farcical California and Texas secession movements.

I wonder if the separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine told Putin they had lots and lots of supporters in the rest of Ukraine that would help out and make things easier since the Ukrainian government had no real support and would fold quickly to a Russian show of force.

In other words, Putin was fed garbage by some puppets and wanted it to be true. So he essentially had propagandized himself.

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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:16:25am

re: #188 Hecuba’s daughter

We were dealing with Khrushchev then and not Putin. Khrushchev was a thoroughly rational actor and not a reckless paranoid planning to restore a lost empire.

The guy who beat the desk with his shoe was a rational actor?
I think that Putin is also a rational actor. He knew that we wouldn’t do anything besides sanctions.

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:16:49am

re: #221 Dr Lizardo

I could swear reading that the Germans actually published a notice in one of the big American newspapers that the RMS Lusitania was liable to be sunk as a legit war target, and warned Americans not to sail on her.

Yep.
More than one paper: the German warning was published just before the Lusitania sailed, in several major East-Coast journals, IIRC.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:17:00am

re: #223 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In other words, Putin was fed garbage by some puppets and wanted it to be true. So he essentially had propagandized himself.

And you know what? I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Putin has his “Steiner moment”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:17:09am

re: #223 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I wonder if the separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine told Putin they had lots and lots of supporters in the rest of Ukraine that would help out and make things easier since the Ukrainian government had no real support and would fold quickly to a Russian show of force.

In other words, Putin was fed garbage by some puppets and wanted it to be true. So he essentially had propagandized himself.

Sort of like how all the anti-vax propaganda they were spreading in the States led to disastrously low vaccination rates in Russia?

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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:18:36am

re: #223 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I wonder if the separatist leaders in eastern Ukraine told Putin they had lots and lots of supporters in the rest of Ukraine that would help out and make things easier since the Ukrainian government had no real support and would fold quickly to a Russian show of force.

In other words, Putin was fed garbage by some puppets and wanted it to be true. So he essentially had propagandized himself.

He threw shit at a mirror and it stuck.

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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:21:05am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Another possible motivation: Putin was advised that his economy was steering off a cliff. What is the best way for him to distract from it and blame the faltering economy on Western Sanctions?

When oil is above $70 or so, the Russian economy is fine.

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:21:33am

Someone I know is watching Russian news for domestic consumption:…
Example:

Putin at Security Council accused Ukrainian military of deploying artillery systems in the cities ‘so we have to bomb them”. Calls for military take over of the power

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:26:58am

re: #224 JC1

The guy who beat the desk with his shoe was a rational actor?
I think that Putin is also a rational actor. He knew that we wouldn’t do anything besides sanctions.

Of course we’re not going to get into a nuclear war with Russia.
Those sanctions will do a lot of damage to Russia, and are the rational response to Vlad’s irrational invasion of Ukraine.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:28:17am

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Decatur Deb  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:29:34am

re: #232 Eclectic Cyborg

The brass and the suits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:31:41am

re: #229 JC1

When oil is above $70 or so, the Russian economy is fine.

I think that Covid hit it a lot more than anyone wants to officially admit

and oil is up, but it spent over a year well below $70 per barrel in 2019-20

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:34:12am

re: #223 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

In other words, Putin was fed garbage by some puppets and wanted it to be true. So he essentially had propagandized himself.

I’m not so sure: for all of Vladimir Putin’s manifold shortcomings, I can’t imagine that “credulous belief in his own carefully-manufactured propaganda” is one of them.

Though it is an interesting point to raise about just how much the Russians may have mis-estimated the effects of their decades-long online disinformation campaigns and social-media message-leveraging. I wonder how Vlad’s Ukrainian adventure is doing in approval polling (in the part of the world that is Not-Russia)?

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:36:08am

re: #229 JC1

When oil is above $70 or so, the Russian economy is fine.

What’s Russia’s break even point on oil production?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:37:12am

Vlad is a cold, calculating long-game player. This is only an opening gambit. I cannot imagine him being surprised by any outcome or not having a contingency in place to deal with it.

We need to recognize that.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:38:13am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Russia’s trying to see if there’s a limit before NATO gets involved.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:38:26am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Vlad is a cold, calculating long-game player. This is only an opening gambit. I cannot imagine him being surprised by any outcome or not having a contingency in place to deal with it.

We need to recognize that.

So you think all this might be a negotiating move in order to get the Ukrainian government to accept the puppet “republics” with their old oblast borders?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:38:47am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

What’s Russia’s break even point on oil production?

From what I read, around $70.

But they need $100 if they want to grow and expand, and that has not been happening for a long time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:39:21am
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b.d  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:40:10am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Vlad is a cold, calculating long-game player. This is only an opening gambit. I cannot imagine him being surprised by any outcome or not having a contingency in place to deal with it.

We need to recognize that.

He is playing a game the rest of the world quit playing. If he wanted to help his country he would help his country, this isn’t helping. The image of Putin being a stable genius is just a sham. Putin has kept Russia from being prosperous, not helped.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:40:23am

This seems….unusual.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:40:39am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:40:43am

re: #239 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

So you think all this might be a negotiating move in order to get the Ukrainian government to accept the puppet “republics” with their old oblast borders?

I think it goes well beyond that. He has gone for broke on this one, Belarus is now under his control and he is going to start reporting on how ethnic Russians in other republics are struggling for “self-determination” and how Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia do not have any historical justification, etc…

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:41:22am

re: #243 Dr Lizardo

This seems….unusual.

[tinfoil] Planning use of some new weapon which may cause a mass casualty event? [/tinfoil]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:41:53am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:42:02am

re: #242 b.d

He is playing a game the rest of the world quit playing. If he wanted to help his country he would help his country, this isn’t helping. The image of Putin being a stable genius is just a sham. Putin has kept Russia from being prosperous, not helped.

He does seem to have a personal grudge against how the West has treated Russia.

And I believe that it was a mistake to buck NATO right up against his borders.

But none of that justifies what he is doing now by a long shot.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:42:37am

re: #237 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Vlad is a cold, calculating long-game player. This is only an opening gambit. I cannot imagine him being surprised by any outcome or not having a contingency in place to deal with it.

We need to recognize that.

There’s a very thin line between genius and crazy, especially when it comes to power.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:43:01am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

From what I read, around $70.

But they need $100 if they want to grow and expand, and that has not been happening for a long time.

Dammit, I wish we could pressure the Saudis and their pals to get oil down to about $15/barrel. Keep that price there for the next 12 to 18 months.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:44:18am
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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:46:21am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He does seem to have a personal grudge against how the West has treated Russia.

And I believe that it was a mistake to buck NATO right up against his borders.

But none of that justifies what he is doing now by a long shot.

The only reason this has anything to do with NATO is Putin doesn’t want the former Soviet controlled countries to be able to determine their future without Russia’s input. If NATO had stayed out and those countries formed their own alliance, they would still be in this situation.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:47:57am

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, the Irish know a thing or two about their neighbors invading and colonizing their country.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:49:45am

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:49:54am

This is not a drill….

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:50:17am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:51:05am

re: #252 Belafon

The only reason this has anything to do with NATO is Putin doesn’t want the former Soviet controlled countries to be able to determine their future without Russia’s input. If NATO had stayed out and those countries formed their own alliance, they would still be in this situation.

You all know my ongoing rant about how his long-term goal is to re-unite the old Russian Empire or at least bring those areas into his sphere of economic, political and military interest.

NATO is anathema to that.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:52:17am

re: #257 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You all know my ongoing rant about how his long-term goal is to re-unite the old Russian Empire or at least bring those areas into his sphere of economic, political and military interest.

NATO is anathema to that.

The European Union as well.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:53:31am

And another BOOM…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:56:09am
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The Pie Overlord!  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:56:20am

I asked Lee Weissman if he could share a link for aid to Ukraine since there are many Breslov Hasidim living in Ukraine. He said Breslov sucks at fundraising but he would RT any link that I sent him.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:56:26am

I think this real estate is gonna cost Russia more than “two dollars in sanctions”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:56:43am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:57:21am

A minor correction….

Clever. Plausible deniability. If/when the Russians start screeching, NATO can turn around and say, “Hey man, it’s not us. It’s Poland (or Czech Republic, or Slovakia, or Estonia). Go talk with them.”

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Teukka  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:57:57am

re: #256 Teukka

Remember that report about “medical emergency” expected on the Russian side? $.02 on this being related

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 9:59:32am

re: #265 Teukka

Remember that report about “medical emergency” expected on the Russian side? $.02 on this being related

Contingency in the event this war expands beyond Ukraine.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:00:03am

re: #265 Teukka

Remember that report about “medical emergency” expected on the Russian side? $.02 on this being related

Maybe the Russians are planning a false flag terrorist incident. Some kind of mass casualty attack on a high-value target in Moscow or St. Petersburg.

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Belafon  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:00:25am

re: #264 Dr Lizardo

A minor correction….

Clever. Plausible deniability. If/when the Russians start screeching, NATO can turn around and say, “Hey man, it’s not us. It’s Poland (or Czech Republic, or Slovakia, or Estonia). Go talk with them.”

Biden: We’re not supplying weapons to Ukraine at this moment. But we are supplying them to Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Estonia.

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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:01:12am

re: #234 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that Covid hit it a lot more than anyone wants to officially admit

and oil is up, but it spent over a year well below $70 per barrel in 2019-20

According to some estimates, Russia had over a million excess covid deaths. The highest percentage of any country.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:01:30am
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Florida Panhandler  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:02:31am

re: #260 Backwoods_Sleuth

A common trope amongst Gun-humpers in the US is Hitler “took away people’s guns” and this defines fascism.

Well, here we are with the Ukrainian Government issuing arms directly to citizens… for better or worse, I can’t think of a more effective way to get them on Ukraine’s side, especially if pointed out Putin restricts guns in Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:02:52am

re: #269 JC1

According to some estimates, Russia had over a million excess covid deaths. The highest percentage of any country.

They already had “supply chain issues” before Covid hit. That’s gonna leave a real mark.

Living standards have been going down for all but the oligarchs now for years.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:03:12am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:04:17am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:05:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:07:36am
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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:07:57am

re: #246 Teukka

[tinfoil] Planning use of some new weapon which may cause a mass casualty event? [/tinfoil]

The war is a mass casualty event. Lots of badly wounded Russian soldiers are going to be needing medical care.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:08:14am

re: #268 Belafon

Biden: We’re not supplying weapons to Ukraine at this moment. But we are supplying them to Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Estonia.

Biden: And what they do with them, well…you’re gonna have to ask them. We’re not their boss.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:10:02am

Russia done gone and fucked up. The Mrs… who is far more dovish than I am, is calling for hellfire to rain down on Putin’s regime and the Russian military and that the US and NATO should do more than issue platitudes, sanctions, and get into the fight even if it means a wider conflict.

I am the one trying to talk her down from what could turn into a world war because Putin thinks Russian imperialism is his manifest destiny and that Ukraine isn’t a legitimate sovereign nation.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:11:11am

re: #277 No Malarkey!

The war is a mass casualty event. Lots of badly wounded Russian soldiers are going to be needing medical care.

Wounded Russian soldiers needing care on top of an exhausted health care delivery infrastructure ruined by covid.

Yeah, that’ll really work out well for those who are injured in Putin’s quest to build a new Russian empire.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:12:30am

re: #274 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Maybe he realized what happens to collaborators is usually quite unpleasant.

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aatharuv  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:16:33am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

And another BOOM…

And another boom, this time, Germany. Weren’t Germany and Italy the two countries blocking removing Russia from Swift?

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:19:01am

The Dow is booming today, after the Nasdaq jumped up 3% yesterday. finance.yahoo.com

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electrotek  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:19:49am
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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:20:27am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

What’s Russia’s break even point on oil production?

keep in mind, 70 dollar oil for Russia isn’t the same as 70 dollar oil for Exxon. Exxon is high-tech and mostly corruption-free, except the bribes I assume they pay in places like Nigeria to keep the workers happy and local governments off their backs. For Russia, they have the issue of what I’d guess is crummy infrastructure in the oil industry, combined with oligarchs raking off their cuts, as well as local governments raking off theirs, and Putin ultimately racking off his. I’d guess that Putin really needs oil at least at 100 to keep everybody swimming. At 70, I’d bet they’re all mostly just breaking even.
And that means any additional jolts at all will tend to do real damage.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:21:15am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:22:51am

re: #284 electrotek

I don’t see that as a bad thing. The person she’s replying to is a child, but anything that builds sympathy for the Ukranian people is helpful.

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Dangerman  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:24:54am
Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) objected to the timing of President Biden’s announcement of a Supreme Court nominee on Friday, the HuffPost reports.

Said Blackburn: “President Biden’s announcement just days after an unprovoked full scale invasion by Russia is extremely inappropriate. Once again, Biden is putting the demands of the radical progressive left ahead of what is best for our nation.”

R’s are jealous that dems can walk and chew gum

or more accurately, counter russia and announce a scotus nominee

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electrotek  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:25:21am
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sagehen  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:27:48am

re: #246 Teukka

[tinfoil] Planning use of some new weapon which may cause a mass casualty event? [/tinfoil]

Chernobyl is just full of “weapons”.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:28:36am

re: #255 Dr Lizardo

This is not a drill….

[Embedded content]

Putin kicked the hornet’s nest - twice - first by invading Ukraine and then by threatening NATO and Finland and Sweden

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:29:28am

re: #288 Dangerman

R’s are jealous that dems can walk and chew gum

or more accurately, counter russia and announce a scotus nominee

SCOTUS has nothing to do with Russia. Fuck Republicans are stupid.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:30:09am

Maybe President Biden should just leave the seat vacant until Russia gives Ukraine back.

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No Malarkey!  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:30:44am

re: #292 darthstar

SCOTUS has nothing to do with Russia. Fuck Republicans are stupid.

There is literally nothing Biden could do that they won’t attack him for doing it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:30:53am

re: #293 darthstar

Maybe President Biden should just leave the seat vacant until Russia gives Ukraine back.

it’s way too close to the next election…

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:32:04am

re: #282 aatharuv

And another boom, this time, Germany. Weren’t Germany and Italy the two countries blocking removing Russia from Swift?

[Embedded content]

Threatening Sweden and Finland and the rest of NATO wasn’t a great move on Putin’s part. Hard to walk back words like that.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:33:35am

re: #291 darthstar

Putin kicked the hornet’s nest - twice - first by invading Ukraine and then by threatening NATO and Finland and Sweden

Yep, and I think he wasn’t expecting this. He probably figured it’d be another Crimea cakewalk, where the world shakes their heads in disappointment, but other than that, it’s business as usual.

Now he’s getting sanctioned up the wazoo, it’s looking like Ukraine may end up being a tougher nut to crack then he’d anticipated, and if Finland (at least) did end up throwing in their lot with NATO, all he will have succeeded in doing is….getting a lot of soldiers killed, expending God knows how much money on a ridiculous military adventure and - ironically - expanded NATO by one country.

Good job, Putin.

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electrotek  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:34:50am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:36:21am

re: #296 darthstar

Threatening Sweden and Finland and the rest of NATO wasn’t a great move on Putin’s part. Hard to walk back words like that.

Look, as soon as he made that speech about the Ukraine’s political and historical viability, it was clear that he was going to go whole hog. He is not finessing, he falling back on intimidation and threat.

He also made it clear that all the former Soviet Republics were Russia’s sphere of influence and that he saw any western involvement in them as a provocation - and now he is done being provoked.

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steve_davis  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:37:22am

re: #289 electrotek

[Embedded content]

presumably there just aren’t enough icelandic women to meet demands.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:37:28am

re: #297 Dr Lizardo

Yep, and I think he wasn’t expecting this. He probably figured it’d be another Crimea cakewalk, where the world shakes their heads in disappointment, but other than that, it’s business as usual.

Had he stopped at occupying the “breakaway republics” it might have worked, but he clearly has designs that go far beyond lopping off more territory from Ukraine.

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electrotek  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:37:38am

I’ll laugh so fucking hard if Japan uses this moment to take back the Kuril Islands from Russia while Russia is preoccupied with Ukraine.

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darthstar  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:38:06am

re: #283 No Malarkey!

The Dow is booming today, after the Nasdaq jumped up 3% yesterday. finance.yahoo.com

Oy…my one big Pharmaceutical buy I did early in Covid because they had a promising treatment (200 shares at 2.33) is now at 0.45. How did they screw the pooch so bad? Well, they still make a decent HIV, cancer, and other drugs. Also my investment in penis pills isn’t rising to the occasion. Don’t invest in companies that advertise on facebook. Still have one solid stock though…and my ESPP at work is solid.

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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:38:47am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had he stopped at occupying the “breakaway republics” it might have worked, but he clearly has designs that go far beyond lopping off more territory from Ukraine.

Gonna have to slap him down then.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:39:02am
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Dr Lizardo  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:39:53am
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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:40:22am

re: #236 Dr Lizardo

What’s Russia’s break even point on oil production?

Their production costs are in the low to high $40 range, depending on whether on or offshore. I think that they need oil at around 70 to not run deficits.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:41:04am

re: #305 DodgerFan1988

Dinesh de Felon has thoughts…

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jaunte  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:47:11am
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:47:35am
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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:47:58am
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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:48:17am

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Dammit, I wish we could pressure the Saudis and their pals to get oil down to about $15/barrel. Keep that price there for the next 12 to 18 months.

Not enough oil in the world for that. OPEC doesn’t have much excess capacity left. If we allowed Iran to pump and sell all they can then we’d make a dent. But, if Russia decided to take half their production offline, there just wouldn’t be enough oil left to meet supply.

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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:51:55am

re: #312 JC1

Not enough oil in the world for that. OPEC doesn’t have much excess capacity left. If we allowed Iran to pump and sell all they can then we’d make a dent. But, if Russia decided to take half their production offline, there just wouldn’t be enough oil left to meet supply.

It’s not just the ability to pump oil out of the ground, but to refine it into gasoline and other fuels. There’s some additional capacity there, but not enough to truly dent the price of oil. OPEC has cut production precisely to keep prices artificially high. This maximizes profits and the markets spiked above that thanks to the Russian invasion. US continues with record production and is essentially energy independent, but the price of oil doesn’t budge because the market is global.

Want to fundamentally change the price of oil and its effect on the global economy? Get off fossil fuels as a cornerstone of energy production, transport, and product manufacturing.

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Crush White Nationalism  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:53:17am

I just looked at my Facebook friend requests for the first time in years. There’s a lot of cleavage in there from sex workers who wanted to be “friends.”

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Jay C  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:53:46am

re: #298 electrotek

[Embedded content]

Chechens, huh?
So I’m guessing when they end up in Allah’s Anteroom courtesy of those Javelin missiles, it’s gonna be like:

WUT? You guys are up here cause of fighting for the Russians???? Sorry, dudes: the down escalator is over there. But you’re gonna have to wait….

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Rightwingconspirator  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:54:29am

re: #312 JC1

If I recall $100 a bbl is high enough to trigger a lot more production right here. That should put downward pressure on prices.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:55:19am
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wrenchwench  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:57:13am

Approximately now.

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retired cynic  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:59:19am

Russia’s Assault on Ukraine Has a Crusader Element
A religious historian breaks down the Orthodox Christian aspect to Putin’s calculations.
esquire.com

Butler Bass goes on to an account of the historic role that Ukraine played in the formation both of the Russian state and the effect that the split between Ukrainian and Russian Orthodox churches have played in that history. And this is not ancient history, either.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine had several different Orthodox churches, only one of which was in close relationship to Moscow. In 2018, two of those Ukrainian churches and some of the Moscow-leaning Orthodox parishes joined in a union and created a newly unified Orthodox Church of Ukraine, a fully independent national ecclesial body under no control from Moscow, with its head in the ancient seat of Orthodoxy in Kyiv.
Putin and the Moscow Russian Orthodox church authorities protested. They’ve been claiming the 1,000 years of Kyiv Christianity as its own — basically appropriating Ukraine’s church history — to the point of erecting a gigantic (and controversial) statue of St. Vladimir outside of the Kremlin.


Just what this nightmare needs: the influence of a 13th-century religious conflict.

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JC1  Feb 25, 2022 • 10:59:24am

re: #316 Rightwingconspirator

If I recall $100 a bbl is high enough to trigger a lot more production right here. That should put downward pressure on prices.

For sure. A lot of US production will come back online. But it’ll still amount to under 1m barrels per day extra. Nigeria and Angola are actually not meeting their OPEC quota, probably due to decaying infrastructure.

Maybe Putin is seeing the writing on the wall with the electric car revolution. By far the largest use of petroleum products is for transportation. As the world goes more electric, Russia and OPEC will be done.

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BlueSpotinAL  Feb 25, 2022 • 11:09:43am
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lawhawk  Feb 25, 2022 • 11:12:19am

re: #320 JC1

The same oil companies are sitting on tons of oil leases without developing them precisely because the costs are far higher than it takes to develop and extract the oil and gas from them.

The breakeven point isn’t there - and may never be there. But these same energy companies are more than happy to rack up record profits because global oil prices remain high because OPEC cuts supply and keeps oil artificially high during the pandemic, and then keeps them high as the demand bounces back.

So of course Pence is trying to show that he remains a know nothing with no clue how anything actually works.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Feb 25, 2022 • 11:29:18am

re: #88 lawhawk

Seriously, the reason I think they went after Chernobyl is to be a staging area where they think the could be free from counter attacks because of the risk of releasing radiation into the environment. Seems like the Russians did that anyways.

I think they gave up their nukes and Chernobyl gives them materials to make dirty bombs.

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John Hughes  Feb 25, 2022 • 11:37:17am

re: #138 steve_davis

I take great pleasure in thinking about Putin realizing that every Russian tank destroyed is basically coming with a “hi, I was made in the good ol’ USA!” message attached to the killing device.

The NLAWs are made by SAAB.

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austin_blue  Feb 25, 2022 • 11:39:03am

re: #149 Dr Lizardo

Several pro-Kremlin Czech language websites have just been taken offline by order of the Ministry of the Interior.

The following websites were taken down: Aeronet, Protiproud, Ceskobezcenzury, Voxpopuliblog, Prvnizpravy, Czechfreepress, Exanpro and Skrytapravda.

These were super-hardcore pro-Kremlin disinformation websites, all primary sources of the vast majority of Russian disinfo circulating in the country.

Good! Keep squeezing them!


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