Some More News: Moral Panics and How to Spot Them

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Hi. In today’s episode, we look at the similar patterns followed by nearly all moral panics, whether they’re about teenagers eating Tide Pods or nonsense stories about litter boxes in school restrooms. These moral panics may seem silly, but they have very real and dangerous consequences for marginalized groups.

Executive Producer - Katy Stoll
Directed by Will Gordh
Written and Produced by Jonathan Harris
Edited by Gregg Meller
Associate Producer - Quincy Tucker
Post-Production Supervisor - John Conway
Researcher - Marco Siler-Gonzales
Graphics by Clint DeNisco
Story Editor - Tom Reimann
Head Writer - David Christopher Bell

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro: Panic-Tastic Freaks And Where To Find Them
4:02 - Step One: Take A True Story And Lie About It
12:18 - Step Two: Othering Language
20:20 - Step Three: Media Exacerbation
40:10 – Step Four: The “Right” People Are Victimized
49:32 – Un-Panicking

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292 comments
1
Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:37:08am

Amazon thought Alexa would be the next iPhone. Turns out it’s a ‘glorified clock radio.’

Amazon’s Alexa was Jeff Bezos’ pet project; now it’s a target for the company’s cost-cutting.

Insider reported the Amazon division that built Alexa is on track to lose $10 billion this year.

Voice assistants were supposed to be revolutionary, but no one’s figured out how to make them profitable.

businessinsider.com

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:38:01am

Um no

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:39:01am

From downthread (enjoying Oz’s misery):
re: #271 Dangerman

stick your feet up and have a crudite

That’s easier than before, as we got our new couches this morning

.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:39:53am

Sure, Jan,

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:40:18am

I feel bad leaving the old stuff outside like this - hopefully someone will take it - leather/down filled - the most comfortable furniture I’ve ever had…it was just time to go.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:40:47am

re: #1 Joe Bacon

Amazon thought Alexa would be the next iPhone. Turns out it’s a ‘glorified clock radio.’

Amazon’s Alexa was Jeff Bezos’ pet project; now it’s a target for the company’s cost-cutting.

Insider reported the Amazon division that built Alexa is on track to lose $10 billion this year.

Voice assistants were supposed to be revolutionary, but no one’s figured out how to make them profitable.

businessinsider.com

If you can’t charge for it and you can’t sell ads on it, where are you going to make money.

I do regret that they’re cutting it, even if I don’t use Alexa. It’s R&D, which is not going to be profitable, but it’s where a lot of advancements are made.

I still consider that one of the things that has hurt the US is when AT&T required Bell Labs to make a profit.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:41:01am

re: #2 Dangerman

Um no

Oh I like Mike…almost as much as I love having a rheumatoid arthritis attack…

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:42:00am

re: #2 Dangerman

Why would we love him? They’re so delusional.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:42:12am

I do love being able to ask Google questions rather than always having to open up a browser.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:42:48am

re: #6 Belafon

If you can’t charge for it and you can’t sell ads on it, where are you going to make money.

They were hoping most of us would routinely use Alexa to order shit off Amazon. Didn’t exactly work out that way.

It’s unfortunate, really. The virtual assistants have many good uses, but pretty much none of those uses are profitable. Apple can keep rolling with Siri because Siri was never meant to be a huge moneymaker.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:43:41am

re: #9 Belafon

I do love being able to ask Google questions rather than always having to open up a browser.

Alexa tells us the weather, plays my pandora stations, and my SiriusXm ones (“Alexa, I need a miracle!” launches the Grateful Dead channel), and lets me know when packages arrive.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:43:53am

re: #5 darthstar

Freecycle. Or reach out to Habitat for Humanity.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:44:24am

re: #12 lawhawk

Freecycle. Or reach out to Habitat for Humanity.

I’ve got it on NextDoor. Will ping Habitat though. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:44:57am

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:45:01am

Is it surprising that Fucker Carlson is prominently featured by Cody on instigating moral panics? No.

Carlson regularly initiates them, and Fox amplifies regularly. It’s what they do.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:46:02am

re: #13 darthstar

I’ve got it on NextDoor. Will ping Habitat though. Thanks for the suggestion.

Yeah, Habitat will take good quality stuff and can sometimes pick up furniture, especially if they don’t have to go inside to get it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:46:08am
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:46:43am

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Why would we love him? They’re so delusional.

The other democrats

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Jay C  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:48:56am

re: #4 Patricia Kayden

Sure, Jan,

Why do I think “ramping up screening” really means “slip the Nazis in the side door to avoid publicity”??

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:49:12am

re: #2 Dangerman

Um no

No more than I love my other house plants.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:50:36am

Mrs. Fish finally gets a long-awaited call… from an unexpected source. A couple of years ago, one of the neighbors up the block was sitting outside with her dogs. We knew these dogs; we’d walked by that house many times, and seen the woman’s husband sitting out there with those same dogs. We had never seen her, though. We asked to approach, and the dogs let us come up, and we started talking to her. Turns out, the old goat was a royal dickwad, and had been abusive to her; so she kicked his ass out, and kept the dogs. Mrs. Fish left her number and told her to ask if she ever needed help with anything. Well, today’s the day. She’s a couple of years older now, since last we spoke, and she’s been having problems with falling when she goes to collect her mail. So she asked Mrs. Fish if she could come and get it for her, and she agreed, since she already leaves the house most days in the afternoons to go and get our son from school. The easiest way to show you love God isn’t to be a sanctimonious asshole to people you don’t know, it’s to be kind to the little old lady on the corner who doesn’t have anyone left to rely on.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:50:36am

re: #19 Jay C

Why do I think “ramping up screening” really means “slip the Nazis in the side door to avoid publicity”??

This is backhand admitting security was lax.
You know when all those boxes of classified dox were there….

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:52:45am

re: #10 Eclectic Cyborg

I find Siri very useful.

Hey Siri. Set a fifteen minute timer. Hey Siri. What’s the weather like? Hey Siri. Remind me to take my meds in an hour.

If I had to pay for it though, I’d just do all those things the old fashioned way.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:53:07am

Email sent to Habitat. Hopefully they have someone in the area picking things up. Suppose to get rain later this week…I’ll have to make room in the garage in that case.

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jeffreyw  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:53:29am

re: #6 Belafon

If you can’t charge for it and you can’t sell ads on it, where are you going to make money.

I do regret that they’re cutting it, even if I don’t use Alexa. It’s R&D, which is not going to be profitable, but it’s where a lot of advancements are made.

I still consider that one of the things that has hurt the US is when AT&T required Bell Labs to make a profit.

And the networks’ demand that the news divisions turn a profit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:55:45am

re: #19 Jay C

Why do I think “ramping up screening” really means “slip the Nazis in the side door to avoid publicity”??

I bet if I had a nice suit and a MAGA hat, I could EASILY get in to Mar-A-Lago.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:56:32am

re: #25 jeffreyw

And the network’s demand that the news divisions turn a profit.

Which is why so many news divisions turned to peddling the drugs fear, anger, and hatred.

Selling addictive drugs is always profitable.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:56:40am

re: #2 Dangerman

Um no

Republicans in the US truly live in their own protective bubble universe separate and apart from 98% of the world population.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:57:56am

re: #5 darthstar

I feel bad leaving the old stuff outside like this - hopefully someone will take it - leather/down filled - the most comfortable furniture I’ve ever had…it was just time to go.

[Embedded content]

I have not seen furniture in that color since the 1970’s.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:58:04am

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all ages, I can safely say I have found the cinematic masterpiece that will certainly win the Palme d’Or, the BAFTAs, the Berlinale and the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2024. A motion picture experience for the ages.

Without further ado, I give you….Cocaine Bear.

Cocaine Bear | Official Trailer [HD]

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:58:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:59:05am
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jeffreyw  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:59:09am

“Alexa, will it rain today?”

**Maybe! Here’s a closer look at today’s weather outlook, brought to you by The Weather Channel**

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 10:59:29am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all ages, I can safely say I have found the cinematic masterpiece that will certainly win the Palme d’Or, the BAFTAs, the Berlinale and the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2024. A motion picture experience for the ages.

Without further ado, I give you….Cocaine Bear.

[Embedded content]

I, for one, am disappointed in the lack of realism present in this title.

A wild bear would obviously have overdosed on fentanyl.///

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:00:11am

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I wouldn’t believe anything he says; it needs independent confirmation.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:02:50am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:03:16am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:03:36am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

The only thing missing is Samuel L. Jackson.

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:03:46am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

Mrs. Fish finally gets a long-awaited call… from an unexpected source. A couple of years ago, one of the neighbors up the block was sitting outside with her dogs. We knew these dogs; we’d walked by that house many times, and seen the woman’s husband sitting out there with those same dogs. We had never seen her, though. We asked to approach, and the dogs let us come up, and we started talking to her. Turns out, the old goat was a royal dickwad, and had been abusive to her; so she kicked his ass out, and kept the dogs. Mrs. Fish left her number and told her to ask if she ever needed help with anything. Well, today’s the day. She’s a couple of years older now, since last we spoke, and she’s been having problems with falling when she goes to collect her mail. So she asked Mrs. Fish if she could come and get it for her, and she agreed, since she already leaves the house most days in the afternoons to go and get our son from school. The easiest way to show you love God isn’t to be a sanctimonious asshole to people you don’t know, it’s to be kind to the little old lady on the corner who doesn’t have anyone left to rely on.

I don’t think a person being nice to another person has anything to do with any god, and I doubt that your wife needs religion to make her a good person.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:04:48am

re: #36 Charles Johnson

Time to first lie: First bullet point.

First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

Demonstrably untrue; your policy re: COVID misinformation has been explicitly bypassed.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:05:29am

Musk is just searching his own name on Twitter and randomly banning people who are trashing him.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:05:30am

re: #34 Dopamine Fish

I, for one, am disappointed in the lack of realism present in this title.

A wild bear would obviously have overdosed on fentanyl.///

The film was inspired by an actual event; in 1985, a 175-pound black bear ate a duffel bag of cocaine that had been tossed out of an airplane. Of course, the unfortunate ursine promptly died. He is, however, on display at the Kentucky Fun Mall in Lexington.

Obviously, what we’re seeing with Cocaine Bear is a bit of dramatic license.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:06:46am

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘Absolutist free speech” strikes again.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:06:48am

re: #39 Crush White Nationalism

I don’t think a person being nice to another person has anything to do with any god, and I doubt that your wife needs religion to make her a good person.

I never said any such thing. I was merely pointing out that for those who claim to be Christians, if you really mean it, then being kind is the way to do it, not going around being a fuckstick and condemning people as “sinners” because you think it will make God love you more.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:09:26am

re: #21 Dopamine Fish

I am currently rereading the Tiffany Aching sub-series of the Prachett Discworld books. And a big key to the services that witches provide there is essentially that. They watch out for those that need that extra bit of help. (There is a lot more to it, but they are essentially an important rural community service in those books.)

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:11:17am

re: #8 Patricia Kayden

Why would we love him? They’re so delusional.

republicans in Indiana didn’t even love him.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:12:20am

re: #35 Hecuba’s daughter

I wouldn’t believe anything he says; it needs independent confirmation.

True. Otoh this seems to be prima facie against his interest to reveal this.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:13:31am
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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:13:43am

I don’t see this winning any Oscars, but it looks like it could be fun.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:14:14am

re: #46 Barefoot Grin

republicans in Indiana didn’t even love him.

Your semi-regular reminder that Pence was about to have his ass run out of Indianapolis on a rail, before Trump came along and threw him a political lifeline.

Nobody likes Pence. NOBODY.
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darthstar  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:14:17am

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all ages, I can safely say I have found the cinematic masterpiece that will certainly win the Palme d’Or, the BAFTAs, the Berlinale and the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2024. A motion picture experience for the ages.

Without further ado, I give you….Cocaine Bear.

[Embedded content]

Of course someone got to it first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:14:33am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:15:53am

re: #49 darthstar

I don’t see this winning any Oscars, but it looks like it could be fun.

[Embedded content]

It’s directed by Elizabeth Banks, who played Effie in The Hunger Games films.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:15:59am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

The film was inspired by an actual event; in 1985, a 175-pound black bear ate a duffel bag of cocaine that had been tossed out of an airplane. Of course, the unfortunate ursine promptly died. He is, however, on display at the Kentucky Fun Mall in Lexington.

Obviously, what we’re seeing with Cocaine Bear is a bit of dramatic license.

I was gonna say it must be a bear of the 80s.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:16:10am

re: #45 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I am currently rereading the Tiffany Aching sub-series of the Prachett Discworld books. And a big key to the services that witches provide there is essentially that. They watch out for those that need that extra bit of help. (There is a lot more to it, but they are essentially an important rural community service in those books.)

Your actions come back threefold. Good actions come back with good actions to you x3, bad comes back bad x3.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:16:37am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Conservatives: Women should dress more modestly so men will be better behaved.

Also Conservatives: The idea a woman should want to look sexy is something the Left finds truly vile.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:17:08am

re: #47 Nyet

True. Otoh this seems to be prima facie against his interest to reveal this.

I have this vision of various regulatory and law enforcement agencies suddenly focusing on him the way predators do when prey draws their attention.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:17:46am

re: #56 Eclectic Cyborg

Conservatives: Women should dress more modestly so men will be better behaved.

Also Conservatives: The idea a woman should want to look sexy is something the Left finds truly vile.

They want to look at sexy women, but other men should leave their sexy women alone.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:19:38am

re: #57 Romantic Heretic

I have this vision of various regulatory and law enforcement agencies suddenly focusing on him the way predators do when prey draws their attention.

As if they weren’t already eyeballing him after all his remarks along the lines of “This is all my fault” that caused his lawyers to literally go, “Dude, would you SHUT THE FUCK UP.”

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:21:26am

re: #39 Crush White Nationalism

I don’t think a person being nice to another person has anything to do with any god, and I doubt that your wife needs religion to make her a good person.

No, but if you claim to believe in God this is the way to do it:

The easiest way to show you love God isn’t to be a sanctimonious asshole to people you don’t know, it’s to be kind to the little old lady on the corner who doesn’t have anyone left to rely on.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:21:42am

re: #57 Romantic Heretic

I have this vision of various regulatory and law enforcement agencies suddenly focusing on him the way predators do when prey draws their attention.

He’s on tape saying: “Fuck regulators.”

So you’re probably right about this.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:22:01am

re: #50 Dopamine Fish

Your semi-regular reminder that Pence was about to have his ass run out of Indianapolis on a rail, before Trump came along and threw him a political lifeline.

[Embedded content]

If you haven’t got a Pence a Walker may do.
If you haven’t got a Walker, God Bless You!

// ;)

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:23:30am

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

Women should look sexy, but they should cover it up because it may cause alpha males to lust and that it totally the fault of the women you should want to look sexy.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:26:16am

re: #57 Romantic Heretic

I have this vision of various regulatory and law enforcement agencies suddenly focusing on him the way predators do when prey draws their attention.

Pretty sure that the FTX fiasco was sufficient to get their attention…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:27:05am
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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:31:39am

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Musk is just searching his own name on Twitter and randomly banning people who are trashing him.

I feel inadequate. I’ve been mocking him and have not been banned.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:32:35am
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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:33:33am

Shoq@shoq@mastodon.social

I’m tire of reading about white supremacists, and Elon’s bedside table. Have you read anything substantial about what the Fediverse could be? You know, something informative and forward looking? I want to collect all the articles I can find on this. It’s not even 9am, and I’ve already found none so far.
Nov 29, 2022

Jeff Jarvis@jeffjarvis@mastodon.social
@shoq
This was an attempt from me.

medium.com

It’s really quite simple: Join any server, set up your profile (say who you are, please), and start looking for folks to follow: search for friends and follow whom they follow, or click on the local (your server) or federated (every server) timeline to see who’s strolling by the front porch, then follow hashtags to interesting conversations and people. A few tips from my vast experience of days: Go to the settings and switch to light mode (really, it makes a difference; it’s not just my dark-mode phobia) and enable the advanced web interface (it’s like Tweetdeck). Boost posts you like (no quote tweets here). Use the verb “to toot” at your option. If it slows down for a bit, just remember Twitter’s Fail Whale of yore, know that your server is run by volunteers (led by the amazing Eugen Rochko), and chill; it’ll speed up speedily.

There are more than 3,000 Mastodon servers, all built on and connected via the ActivityPub protocol. There are also related services you can connect to (e.g., Pixelfed, an Instagram that doesn’t Zuck). You may follow folks from any server, so where you start isn’t all that important. Later, if you want, you can move yourself to another server (you’ll keep your followers but lose your posts).

Here’s the most important thing about this open architecture: No one owns it. Musk can’t buy it (not that he can afford to buy a bagel anymore). I predict this will give censorious and authoritarian governments fits when they realize that a federated, distributed conversation is impossible to control (just as the printing press was; I have a book about that coming out soon). **That immunity from control is a reason to love it — and also to be concerned, for there is no central authority to verify identity or kill bad accounts.**

[…]

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:34:42am

re: #63 Belafon

Women should look sexy, but they should cover it up because it may cause alpha males to lust and that it totally the fault of the women you should want to look sexy.

You’re not supposed to be able to win with fascists, which is one reason they should never have power over others.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:38:23am

re: #58 Dopamine Fish

They want to look at sexy women, but other men should leave their sexy women alone.

Hey, where the white women at? /Sheriff Bart

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nines09  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:38:47am

Cooper is tuned in to FedEx and UPS delivery trucks. Hears them a block away. Gets frantic. “IT MIGHT COME HERE” is what I hear…
And I was waiting on a FedEx delivery so when he started dancing, yep, UPS.
So I peeked and saw a box on the stoop.
Went and got it.
Not mine, one of the retards across the street.
And it was from My Pillow.
jfc at this stage….. My Pillow.
This is the strap who threw his prop American flag in the driveway when he was cleaning his gutters. The flag with no light on it in the dark. The flag beside the “Faith, Family, Freedom” made in China prop.
My Pillow.
jfc how stupid is you?

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:43:44am

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

The film was inspired by an actual event; in 1985, a 175-pound black bear ate a duffel bag of cocaine that had been tossed out of an airplane. Of course, the unfortunate ursine promptly died. He is, however, on display at the Kentucky Fun Mall in Lexington.

Obviously, what we’re seeing with Cocaine Bear is a bit of dramatic license.

Keith Richards: noob!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:44:05am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:44:49am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:45:34am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

A democrat belongs to a leftist group???

NO WAY!

/////

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:48:06am

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

CRT walks among them!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:48:42am

re: #76 wrenchwench

CRT walks among them!

“Now show us on the doll where the CRT touched you.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:49:46am
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Thanos  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:51:03am

Today’s moral panic: Rainbow fentanyl. Aren’t you sick of seeing that shit every time you turn on the TV?

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:53:03am

re: #77 Dopamine Fish

“Now show us on the doll where the CRT touched you.”

Rosa Parks’ husband was a groomer!

/He was a barber.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:53:40am

Unlike with the Holocaust, the question of whether the Holodomor falls under the UN definition of genocide is wide open among the historians specializing in the famine, due to the vagueness of evidence about the Soviet intent (and specific intent plays the key role in whether something is genocide or some other type of mass murder under the official definition; for example, if the aim is to suppress a political or a social group, the number of victims could be in the hundreds of millions and it might still not be a genocide ). Numerous mainstream historians have rejected the idea, including Robert Conquest, who first popularized the topic in the West.

Parliaments playing historians is a bad idea.

German parliament labels 1930s Ukraine famine as genocide

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:56:20am

Clarence Gilyard, Jr died on the 28th. He was the tech genius in Die Hard, the partner in Walker, Texas Ranger, and the private detective on Matlock.

cnn.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 11:56:43am
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:00:53pm

re: #71 nines09

Cooper is tuned in to FedEx and UPS delivery trucks. Hears them a block away. Gets frantic. “IT MIGHT COME HERE” is what I hear…
And I was waiting on a FedEx delivery so when he started dancing, yep, UPS.
So I peaked and saw a box on the stoop.
Went and got it.
Not mine, one of the retards across the street.
And it was from My Pillow.
jfc at this stage….. My Pillow.
This is the strap who threw his prop American flag in the driveway when he was cleaning his gutters. The flag with no light on it in the dark. The flag beside the “Faith, Family, Freedom” made in China prop.
My Pillow.
jfc how stupid is you?

If your neighbor wants to rest his head on a bag of doorknobs and teeth, that’s his First Amendment Right.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:05:13pm
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JC1  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:05:47pm

Polish keeper is having an amazing game. Saved a Messi penalty that never should have been awarded.

Edit, lol. And just like that I spoke too soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:06:52pm
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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:08:35pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Read it carefully: Congress is supposed to stand up TO the military, not FOR them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:08:36pm
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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:08:37pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Is ‘Standing up to’ the opposite of ‘Standing up for’?

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aatharuv  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:10:36pm

re: #81 Nyet

Unlike with the Holocaust, the question of whether the Holodomor falls under the UN definition of genocide is wide open among the historians specializing in the famine, due to the vagueness of evidence about the Soviet intent (and specific intent plays the key role in whether something is genocide or some other type of mass murder under the official definition). Numerous mainstream historians have rejected the idea, including Robert Conquest, who first popularized the topic in the West.

Parliaments playing historians is a bad idea.

German parliament labels 1930s Ukraine famine as genocide

The UN playing a moral gatekeeper to what is a genocide is also a bad idea.

The UN’s definition of genocide from the Genocide Convention, includes mass murder in an intent to destroy national, ethnic, religous, or ethnic groups, but does not include attempts to destroy a “class” group — i.e, Kulak’s, or a “political group”. That was done to get the Soviets on board.

Rafael Lemkin, who authored the UN definition of genocide, himselfn considered the Holodomor to be a genocide.

Of course, if you redefine an ethnic group as a class group, by the narrow definition, several groups of deliberate mass murders (for example the murder of 1 million ethnic-Chinese Indonesians (in the guise of “anti-Communism”) around Suharto’s rise to power, Cambodia’s purge of pretty much anyone who was theoretially an intellectual, the Holodomor against Ukrainians declaring them to be Kulak’s, don’t count as genocide.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:10:59pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

Is ‘Standing up to’ the opposite of ‘Standing up for’?

yeah, the phrasing…

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cat-tikvah  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:12:24pm

re: #45 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I sent a copy of Hat Full of Sky to a fellow nursing school alum (we graduated a zillion years ago). It’s really about being healers.

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:12:59pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:15:27pm
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nines09  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:16:27pm

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

Can’t fix stupid.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:18:20pm
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nines09  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:19:38pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

Still #1 with a bullet on who deserves flaming bags of dog shit thrown at him.

“I have no idea who put that flag up behind me. Honest.”
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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:19:39pm

re: #91 aatharuv

That’s one of the reasons I think using term democide is useful to describe those situations. They’re state sanctioned mass killings, but not necessarily because of race or ethnicity.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:20:46pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes this one really hurts and makes me so sad. RIP Christine

insider.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:20:51pm

Speaking of flaming bags of dog shit

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:22:37pm

God I wish Nick Fuentes would slither back under whatever rock he lived under before social media helped float him. I can’t stand to see that jibbering assmunch.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:24:28pm

The concept of “legal entities” goes over some people’s heads, but it’s pretty straightforward when viewed in this context. In order to do business in Europe, Twitter has to have some way of complying with European law. That is by means of a legal entity, without which Twitter is not allowed to operate in Europe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:24:30pm

*blink*

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:25:09pm

Is there an issue with embedding mastodon posts & graphics in LGF?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:25:25pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

We wouldn’t have inflation, we’d have a secure border.

Uhh, Kevin… What the ACTUAL EVER-LOVING FUCK does that have to do with the railway deal?!?!?

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:25:40pm

re: #105 BeenHereAwhile

Is there an issue with embedding mastodon posts & graphics in LGF?

Yes. The Boss (tm) is actively working on it, if I recall correctly.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:26:45pm

re: #102 Barefoot Grin

God I wish Nick Fuentes would slither back under whatever rock he lived under before social media helped float him. I can’t stand to see that jibbering assmunch.

What is so depressing is remembering when I was a kid and Dad and I would walk around the neighborhood and see mimeographed Bircher shit stapled to telephone poles. Dad and I would rip them off the poles and tear them up.

Back then Birchers and other assorted assholes just had mimeographing machines. Now those assholes have Sleazy E giving them carte blanche on The Bird.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:28:13pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

Uhh, Kevin… What the ACTUAL EVER-LOVING FUCK does that have to do with the railway deal?!?!?

Dissembling word salad that makes you ignore that he never answered the fucking question posed. He doesn’t have a plan, hopes that the strike occurs because it would harm the economy and therefore thinks it scores points against Biden when all it does is harm American businesses and consumers.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:31:48pm

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

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The concept of “legal entities” goes over some people’s heads, but it’s pretty straightforward when viewed in this context. In order to do business in Europe, Twitter has to have some way of complying with European law. That is by means of a legal entity, without which Twitter is not allowed to operate in Europe.

Maybe Mitt Romney can explain ‘legal entities’ to them. ‘Corporations are people too, my friend.’

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Thanos  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:33:57pm

Fleetwood Mac-Christine McVie - SongBird

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:37:14pm

re: #105 BeenHereAwhile

Is there an issue with embedding mastodon posts & graphics in LGF?

Yes, and it locked up a thread yesterday. Do not attempt to post Mastodon embed codes until Charles figures them out.

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Thanos  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:37:44pm

R.I.P. Christie McVie

cbsnews.com

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:40:39pm

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

The concept of “legal entities” goes over some people’s heads, but it’s pretty straightforward when viewed in this context. In order to do business in Europe, Twitter has to have some way of complying with European law. That is by means of a legal entity, without which Twitter is not allowed to operate in Europe.

IIRC, Twitter has servers based in EU Ireland.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:42:05pm

re: #114 BeenHereAwhile

IIRC, Twitter has servers based in EU Ireland.

And staff, many of whom were terminated*

* = he “fired” them via his trademark late-night email blast, but corporate law in the EU doesn’t recognize that as a legal termination, so technically he’s paying (or supposed to pay) a bunch of people who no longer have access to the stuff they need to work on.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:47:07pm

Sure…

Donald Trump’s allies want a chaperone to ‘be present with him at all times’ after Nick Fuentes dinner

We know what kind of “chaperone” they’re talking about…😈

alternet.org

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:47:12pm

re: #114 BeenHereAwhile

IIRC, Twitter has servers based in EU Ireland.

Twitter has business offices in London, Dublin, and Paris. That’s sufficient for EU rules to attach to Twitter business practices that have to comply across borders (transnational requirements).

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Jay C  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:47:38pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #109 lawhawk

Jeez Louise! Is Kevin McCarthy really that big of an imbecile, or does he just like to play one on the Internet?
Leaving railroad wages/benefits/conditions up to the “private sector” to set (preferably unilaterally and unregulated) is why there’s a strike threatened in the first place: In pursuit of “efficiency” (i.e. corporate profits), said “private sector” would be only too willing to force their workers to accept sub-starvation wages, give them no benefits whatsoever, and work them every hour they can wring from them until they drop; and then fire them and toss them out on the street.
Just because railroads are a 19th-Century technology is no excuse to impose 19th-Century labor standards. Unless you’re a Republican, of course….

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:48:00pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon

That was Ivanka’s role, or so his excusers repeatedly told us.

With her out of the supposed picture this time around, they’ll get a lookalike to do it.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:48:36pm

re: #112 Belafon

Yes, and it locked up a thread yesterday. Do not attempt to post Mastodon embed codes until Charles figures them out.

I figured. Thus - in an abundance of caution - my text only #68 upstairs..

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:49:54pm

re: #91 aatharuv

The UN playing a moral gatekeeper to what is a genocide is also a bad idea.

The UN’s definition of genocide from the Genocide Convention, includes mass murder in an intent to destroy national, ethnic, religous, or ethnic groups, but does not include attempts to destroy a “class” group — i.e, Kulak’s, or a “political group”. That was done to get the Soviets on board.

Rafael Lemkin, who authored the UN definition of genocide, himselfn considered the Holodomor to be a genocide.

Of course, if you redefine an ethnic group as a class group, by the narrow definition, several groups of deliberate mass murders (for example the murder of 1 million ethnic-Chinese Indonesians (in the guise of “anti-Communism”) around Suharto’s rise to power, Cambodia’s purge of pretty much anyone who was theoretially an intellectual, the Holodomor against Ukrainians declaring them to be Kulak’s, don’t count as genocide.

I mostly agree. Myself, I would prefer the definition to be expanded or to be abandoned in favor of using the term “democide”. I don’t see how mass murdering “peasants” or “gays” is better than mass murdering “Jews” or “Russians”. That said, while the def is as it is, “forcing” historical events to conform to the definition seems like a poor idea to me.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:50:05pm

Remind me the number of times @Jack tweeted out to his millions of followers who they should vote for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:50:24pm

re: #119 lawhawk

That was Ivanka’s role, or so his excusers repeatedly told us.

With her out of the supposed picture this time around, they’ll get a lookalike to do it.

maybe they can bring back Hope Hicks

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coin operated  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:51:21pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

maybe they can bring back Hope Hicks

Beat me to it…

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:52:05pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

They’ve got Trump’s current real estate attorney.. Alina Habba… so there’s that.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:52:17pm

Rev. Warnock I love you but I sure don’t need 50+ e-mails from you and your pals in my e-mail today…and it’s not even 1PM here in Los Angeles!

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:53:34pm

re: #125 lawhawk

They’ve got Trump’s current real estate attorney.. Alina Habba… so there’s that.

I was going to say, she’s also a True Believer, so I’m pretty sure she’d be happy to be a… distraction.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:55:31pm

Elon looking for another subsidy for Starlink.

arstechnica.com

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:56:06pm

re: #126 Joe Bacon

Rev. Warnock I love you but I sure don’t need 50+ e-mails from you and your pals in my e-mail today…and it’s not even 1PM here in Los Angeles!

I donated $50 to his campaign last month and the number of emails and text messages have become very annoying. I keep unsubscribing with only minor results.

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garzooma  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:56:50pm

re: #120 BeenHereAwhile

I figured. Thus - in an abundance of caution - my text only #68 upstairs..

I did one yesterday:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:57:39pm

re: #101 The Pie Overlord!

Speaking of flaming bags of dog shit

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Wile E. Wonka  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:57:42pm

re: #45 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I am currently rereading the Tiffany Aching sub-series of the Prachett Discworld books. And a big key to the services that witches provide there is essentially that. They watch out for those that need that extra bit of help. (There is a lot more to it, but they are essentially an important rural community service in those books.)

Terry Pratchett’s witches are the best. By my lights, between them and Diane Duane’s “Young Wizards” series, we have a complete magic primer for our kids and that neo-Edwardian prep school-plus-magic-wands franchise can go inflict itself on itself. ;)

“First Sight means you can see what really is there, and Second Thoughts mean thinking about what you are thinking. And in Tiffany’s case, there were sometimes Third Thoughts and Fourth Thoughts although these…sometimes led her to walk into doors.”
— from I Shall Wear Midnight

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2022 • 12:58:13pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

Uhh, Kevin… What the ACTUAL EVER-LOVING FUCK does that have to do with the railway deal?!?!?

It’s the new Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts. It’s all they know… parrot whatever the talking point du jour is over and over. BWAK! Polly want a tax cut! except now it’s inflation, open borders and whatever other phrase is IN today.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:00:11pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon

“Chaperone”
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:04:03pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh that sucks. RIP

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:06:59pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hmmm…Now I’m just waiting for Franky Graham Cracker to chime in on what Ali Alexander said.

Oh and I’m just dying to hear a comment from the Mormon Council of 12 as well.

I’ve said all along it is only a matter of time before the Religious Right Radicals turn on each other Mormons, fundy Protestants and Catholics will go after each other and hopefully marginalize themselves in the process.

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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:07:11pm

Vital Impacts Launches a Winter Print Sale with Photos from Jane Goodall, David Doublet, and Beth Moon to Raise Money for Conservation
thisiscolossal.com

Amazing photos! This one really hit me:

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Wile E. Wonka  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:07:45pm

re: #63 Belafon

Women should look sexy, but they should cover it up because it may cause alpha males to lust and that it totally the fault of the women you should want to look sexy.

It’s all about making women do what they don’t want to. I swear, to these cats it ain’t even sexy unless there’s some degradation involved.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:11:07pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:15:50pm

re: #138 Wile E. Wonka

I hate when the idiots have their names covered up.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:16:29pm

re: #139 Captain Ron

Post em online just before the new congress convenes.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:18:01pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:23:26pm

re: #96 nines09

Can’t fix stupid.

Even duct tape can’t fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:25:46pm

Twitter’s ad revenue in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa is down 15% in 2022, and weekly advertising bookings in the region are down a stunning 49%, according to internal company discussions reviewed by the Platformer newsletter. That would be bad news any time, but it’s disastrous during the Black Friday shopping season, the most profitable time of year for ad companies by far. The lost opportunity is even worse considering the World Cup is on, another factor that should drives up ad sales. One former Twitter executive told Platformer the situation is “catastrophic.”

New reports suggest that Twitter’s mass layoffs and resignations hit critical ad technology teams. Musk wants to change Twitter’s business model through schemes like subscription fees for verified accounts, but any significant revenue from that program is a long way off. In the meantime, advertising is essentially the only way Twitter makes money, and Musk is flailing to turn the company’s ad problems around. So far those efforts have failed, and the layoffs to the metrics teams could make the platform even less appealing to advertisers going forward.

Staffing losses are particularly steep among Twitter’s measurement and analytics teams, according to sources who spoke with Ad Age. These personnel run absolutely essential advertising technology. That includes systems that calculate how well ad campaigns are working and tools that ensure brand safety, the industry term for checking to make sure that ads aren’t running next to offensive or otherwise damaging content. According to Ad Age:

“The Audience Insights unit, which was heavy with technical talent and looked at conversation volume and trends and worked with Twitter sales and marketing teams, lost 70% of its staff,” the source said.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:26:25pm

re: #139 Captain Ron

And less than 60 days before the new GOP Congress sends them to the shredder.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:26:52pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

Uhh, Kevin… What the ACTUAL EVER-LOVING FUCK does that have to do with the railway deal?!?!?

The GOP has fully absorbed the Guliani Process. Fact*, Fact*, Talking Point.

* - Fact optional. Can freely substitute misinformation, lies, or another talking point.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:28:36pm

re: #116 Joe Bacon

Sure…

Donald Trump’s allies want a chaperone to ‘be present with him at all times’ after Nick Fuentes dinner

We know what kind of “chaperone” they’re talking about…😈

alternet.org

I’m sire Lindsey and Ted would volunteer to go to Florida and play that role.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:29:21pm

re: #136 Joe Bacon

Hmmm…Now I’m just waiting for Franky Graham Cracker to chime in on what Ali Alexander said.

Oh and I’m just dying to hear a comment from the Mormon Council of 12 as well.

I’ve said all along it is only a matter of time before the Religious Right Radicals turn on each other Mormons, fundy Protestants and Catholics will go after each other and hopefully marginalize themselves in the process.

My youngest brother is both a Mormon and a Trumpster. I have asked him how he can align himself with people who think his religion is a perverted cult, and whose not-too-distant predecessors lynched its founder. His answers are tu quoque (“Liberals hate us too!) and some kind of gibberish about liberalism being a greater threat. I ran down a list of pogroms and religious wars between branches of Christianity, he says that’s all in the past. *sigh*

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:33:16pm

re: #147 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I’m sire Lindsey and Ted would volunteer to go to Florida and play that role.

Only a fucking idiot would believe that trump would listen to a Chaperone.

only a bigger fucking idiot would vote for someone that needs a chaperone to not eat dinner with fucking nazis.

edit. added more fucks.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:34:09pm

thread

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:34:43pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:36:34pm

Lava for you:

Youtube Video


..

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:37:14pm

re: #139 Captain Ron

apparently “shall” meant “shall” all along

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Crush White Nationalism  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:37:39pm

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

My youngest brother is both a Mormon and a Trumpster. I have asked him how he can align himself with people who think his religion is a perverted cult, and whose not-too-distant predecessors lynched its founder. His answers are tu quoque (“Liberals hate us too!) and some kind of gibberish about liberalism being a greater threat. I ran down a list of pogroms and religious wars between branches of Christianity, he says that’s all I’m the past. *sigh*

Liberals hate bigoted assholes. It’s clearly possible to be a Mormon without being a bigoted asshole, just like with most religious sects.

Liberals don’t hate your brother if he’s not openly bigoted. He’ll just have been told so by propagandists.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:39:12pm

re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To

Only a fucking idiot would believe that trump would listen to a Chaperone.

only a bigger fucking idiot would vote for someone that needs a chaperone to not eat dinner with fucking nazis.

edit. added more fucks.

imo still not enough

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:39:25pm

re: #153 Dangerman

apparently “shall” meant “shall” all along

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So the audit is over?

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Dizzy  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:46:12pm

re: #139 Captain Ron

Now that the House Ways and Means Committee has Trump’s tax returns, can someone with more knowledge of US politics tell me what they can do with it before the GOP take over and bury it? My take is that someone must leak them to the public or they will be useless until the Dems take control again.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:46:21pm

Nothing is more masculine than having to be babysat full-time because you’re uncapable of making rationale decisions. Madison Cawthorn (R-Nazi Gimp) must be proud:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:48:13pm
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Dr. Matt  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:48:54pm

re: #153 Dangerman

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I fear that 1) there is a nothing burger there or 2) they won’t have enough time to thoroughly vet them since the GQP is taking over in Jan.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:49:01pm

Must-read if you’re disabled and on social networks. This is why I won’t join Post.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:52:58pm

re: #157 Dizzy

Now that the House Ways and Means Committee has Trump’s tax returns, can someone with more knowledge of US politics tell me what they can do with it before the GOP take over and bury it? My take is that someone must leak them to the public or they will be useless until the Dems take control again.

can always hand it over as evidence to the DoJ

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:53:14pm

re: #47 Nyet

True. Otoh this seems to be prima facie against his interest to reveal this.

My brain-dead Trumpster FB friend had a whole FB post on how corrupt the Democrats are for having this criminal donating money to them — and that he donated a billion dollars. So he may want to have the Republicans share in the infamy of being tied to him.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 1:57:24pm

re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To

Only a fucking idiot would believe that trump would listen to a Chaperone.

only a bigger fucking idiot would vote for someone that needs a chaperone to not eat dinner with fucking nazis.

edit. added more fucks.

Whenever fucking nazis are mentioned, you simply cannot go overboard with them.

Whenever the fucking TFG is mentioned, again, fuck away.

When you have fucking nazis and fucking TFG together, the number of fucks can achieve astronomical proportions which then collapse into a massive black hole of fucks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:07:55pm

re: #161 Sherlock Hound

What is Post?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:09:08pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:10:00pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh my God, they actually got all the spelling right.

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Jay C  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:11:13pm

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh my God, they actually got all the spelling right.

*Ahem*. “GOVENOR” ??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:11:14pm

re: #167 Eclectic Cyborg

Oh my God, they actually got all the spelling right.

‘GOVENOR”

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:12:15pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

‘GOVENOR”

Their nothing but a bunch of semee-literal troles.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:12:33pm

re: #148 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

My youngest brother is both a Mormon and a Trumpster. I have asked him how he can align himself with people who think his religion is a perverted cult, and whose not-too-distant predecessors lynched its founder. His answers are tu quoque (“Liberals hate us too!) and some kind of gibberish about liberalism being a greater threat. I ran down a list of pogroms and religious wars between branches of Christianity, he says that’s all in the past. *sigh*

“liberals hate me so i must vote for x” says all you need to know
it’s nonsensical
because they got nothing logical or substantive - or even arguable

when it comes down to it, I don’t care about your politics or your political affiliations. It’s not your position or who you vote for. I care how you decide who to vote for.

how you develop that position, how you make your evaluations and decisions. The process - the critical thinking, the info gathering, acceptance of what you hear and see, that is more of a window on who you are (and aren’t) than anything else.

If you come to it rationally, with something you can support, then fine. If it’s just ‘your feelings’ then i have no time for you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:13:46pm
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:13:47pm

re: #158 Dr. Matt

Nothing is more masculine than having to be babysat full-time because you’re uncapable of making rationale decisions. Madison Cawthorn (R-Nazi Gimp) must be proud:

hey… like herschel

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:17:14pm
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Thanos  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:18:50pm

Good article from Ars on the security conundrums mastodon creates.

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jeffreyw  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:19:01pm

I have questions..

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sagehen  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:21:42pm

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Ladies and gentlemen, Lizards of all ages, I can safely say I have found the cinematic masterpiece that will certainly win the Palme d’Or, the BAFTAs, the Berlinale and the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2024. A motion picture experience for the ages.

Without further ado, I give you….Cocaine Bear.

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Video

I want to see that in a theater full of black people. That’s the audience reaction experience I crave.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:23:58pm
“Immigration and Customs Enforcement accidentally posted the names, birthdates, nationalities and locations of more than 6,000 immigrants who claimed to be fleeing torture and persecution to its website on Monday,” the Los Angeles Times reports.

no one ‘accidentally’ posts this kind of information to a public website

or ‘mistakenly’
or ‘erroneously’
or ‘somehow’
or ‘unintentionally’
or

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:26:18pm

re: #168 Jay C

*Ahem*. “GOVENOR” ??

Damn malfunctioning eyes.

/

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:26:48pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

I love how Judge Judy says, “It’s his dog.” I can’t imagine how I would deal with anyone stealing my dogs. They’re family.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:27:08pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oooh, all of ten loony protestors. That’s a groundswell.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:27:12pm

re: #178 Dangerman

It’s ICE. Hanlon’s Razor does not apply; the whole organization is so corrupt, it is actually safer to assume malicious intent rather than stupidity.

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gocart mozart  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:28:14pm

re: #153 Dangerman

apparently “shall” meant “shall” all along

I literally learned that in my first class on my first day in law school.

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gocart mozart  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:31:06pm

Before Christine and Stevie joined the band.

Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac - “Oh Well”, Live@ Music Mash 1969

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:32:13pm

Enjoy this excellent drag performance:

Swan Lake Act II - Little Swans - Les Ballets Trockadero de Monte Carlo

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:32:19pm

re: #158 Dr. Matt

Why the brouhaha over this dinner when Trump has been cuddling up to White Supremacists and extremists for his entire presidency? This reaction from many on the right seems odd.

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gocart mozart  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:32:43pm

Groomer James is hoisted on his own petard

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:33:52pm

Sam Bankman-Fried is giving a live interview to the New York Times. This seems to capture the magnitude of the situation.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:35:24pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:37:10pm

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

Why the brouhaha over this dinner when Trump has been cuddling up to White Supremacists and extremists for his entire presidency? This reaction from many on the right seems odd.

There a lack of deniability with Fuentes that makes old-school Republicans nervous. Everyone else knows the mainstream media does not require deniability from Republicans, and likely never did.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:40:42pm

re: #188 Dopamine Fish

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nines09  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:43:39pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

Weekly meeting of the “I Shit The Bed” club?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:44:34pm

In extremely local news, the plumber just left after extracting $280 from us for repairs. $130 of that is the charge to come all the way the hell out here.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:45:53pm
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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:46:06pm

re: #173 Dangerman

a top campaign aide will now ‘be present with him at all times’

It’s a safe bet that these are the same people that keep talking about “Biden’s handlers.”

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:47:13pm

These are the only things Milo wanted to correct about the NBC report, so it’s a confirmation.

Telegram

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:47:18pm

re: #195 jaunte

It’s a safe bet that these are the same people that keep talking about “Biden’s handlers.”

It’s always projection with these lying GOP scumbags.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:50:39pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:51:29pm

re: #198 Nyet

BWA HAHAHAHA!

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:53:08pm

re: #199 Dopamine Fish

Dudebro don’t fly here.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:54:01pm

re: #200 Nyet

Dudebro don’t fly here.

So he’s in violation of the GDPR, EU employment law, what else can we get him on? It’s clear he has no experience working with a global enterprise.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:57:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:58:27pm
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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:58:36pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What is Post?

Post(dot)News

It’s a new social media site. Recently started up. Folks on it seem to have nice things to say about it. And, apparently, it is completely overwhelmed. When I applied on November 25th, I was approximately #181,000 on the waitlist. I have not heard back from them since.

At the time, some number of referrals with a specific code were supposed to get one jumped to the head of the queue.

While I am posting mine below, if someone has a burning desire to go first, I would recommend using their referral instead.

Here is my referral code from their email:

“Feel free to share your referral code on Social Media:” post.news

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:58:49pm

I saw our very own @jaunte retweet this, and just had to post it here. A big legal victory here in Minnesota, as the George Floyd protesters prevail in their civil suit against the Minneapolis Police Department for their heavy-handed tactics in the summer of 2020. Part of their punishment:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 2:58:59pm

and for the no shit, Sherlock, file:

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:00:15pm

re: #198 Nyet

You mean there are actually places in the world where the law protects workers?

//

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:01:03pm

re: #133 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

It’s the new Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts, Tax Cuts. It’s all they know… parrot whatever the talking point du jour is over and over. BWAK! Polly want a tax cut! except now it’s inflation, open borders and whatever other phrase is IN today.

Kevin wants to destroy the Biden presidency; he will do nothing to help our nation if it could also benefit a single Democrat. This is the modern GOP playbook: no cooperation unless refusal would harm Republicans.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:02:32pm

Some afternoon color.

Lucy by the lake
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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:02:51pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

You mean there are actually places in the world where the law protects workers?

//

Having lived in Canada, Elmo should have known that such places exist…//

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:04:39pm

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

You mean there are actually places in the world where the law protects workers?

AND they have good railroad networks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:04:55pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:05:25pm

re: #206 Backwoods_Sleuth

Dear Ted Cruz:

Decent people don’t hate Trump for no reason at all (hate for no reason is what you right wing nut jobs do). Decent people despise bigots and criminals, and the criminals should be tried for their crimes and sentenced accordingly if found guilty.

Trump is a bigot and a criminal. I know you believe, sincerely, that it is impossible for a Republican to also be a criminal, but the reality is different, and, in fact, “Republican” and “criminal” are damn near synonyms these days.

With high hopes that this note finds you in the process of slowly and painfully disappearing up your own rectum,

Sincerely,

a target of your hatred.

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Joe Bacon  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:06:22pm

And we catch another QAsshole who just happens to be…YOU GUESSED IT FOLKS!

QAnon Influencer Sues Newspaper, Gets Exposed as Alleged Child Predator

Phil Godlewski’s lawsuit against a Pennsylvania paper wound up revealing how he groomed a 15-year-old for sex, The Daily Beast reports

QANON LEADER PHIL Godlewski accidentally outed himself as an alleged child predator after filing a defamation lawsuit against a local paper that exposed old court records to public scrutiny, according to a report from The Daily Beast. Despite Godlewski and QAnon’s obsessive fixation with pedophile cabals running the government, it seems in this case the call is coming from inside the house.

In 2010, Godlewski was charged as a result of his relationship with a 15-year-old girl, identified in records as “B.D.” According to police records and testimony from the victim, Godlewski began a sexual relationship with the girl in 2008, when Godlewski was 25 and working as a high school basketball coach near Scranton, Pennsylvania. B.D. reportedly stopped cooperating with law enforcement after Godlewski threatened suicide, and Godlewski ultimately pleaded guilty to charges of “corruption of a minor,” and served three months of house arrest.

By 2021, Godlewski had established himself as a major figure within the QAnon world, and was raking in cash hawking multi-level marketing schemes to his hundreds of thousands of followers. Godlewski reportedly purchased a $1.7 mansion using the funds this year.

rollingstone.com

thedailybeast.com

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danarchy  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:06:34pm

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

I saw our very own @jaunte retweet this, and just had to post it here. A big legal victory here in Minnesota, as the George Floyd protesters prevail in their civil suit against the Minneapolis Police Department for their heavy-handed tactics in the summer of 2020. Part of their punishment:

[Embedded content]

I guess the catch here is defining lawful protestors. How many people in a group of protestors have to cross the line into unlawful behavior before the police can use those things to disperse the whole group? And while the city settled, I am willing to bet most of the cops who were there still think they were breaking up unlawful protests.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:07:45pm

re: #215 danarchy

I guess the catch here is defining lawful protestors. How many people in a group of protestors have to cross the line into unlawful behavior before the police can use those things to disperse the whole group? And while the city settled, I am willing to bet most of the cops who were there still think they were breaking up unlawful protests.

I’m taking it to mean that there are/can be penalties if a cop is found to be in violation of any of those guidelines after the fact, since there’s nothing stopping a cop from actually arresting a protestor or using a flashbang/foam-tipped bullets at the scene except other cops.

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:08:21pm

re: #214 Joe Bacon

Godlewski reportedly purchased a $1.7 mansion using the funds this year.

Confiscate it and give it to the Ukrainian refugees.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:09:07pm

re: #211 jaunte

AND they have good railroad networks.

Next, you’ll tell me they have healthcare that won’t bankrupt me, won’t you?

//

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EPR-radar  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:10:13pm

re: #214 Joe Bacon

Naturally. That QAnon shit is pure projection. Everyone who seriously peddles that shit undoubtedly has a hard drive that would be of great interest to law enforcement.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:10:21pm

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

Why the brouhaha over this dinner when Trump has been cuddling up to White Supremacists and extremists for his entire presidency? This reaction from many on the right seems odd.

They [hopefully] feel a change coming on.

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:12:50pm

re: #180 Patricia Kayden

I love how Judge Judy says, “It’s his dog.” I can’t imagine how I would deal with anyone stealing my dogs. They’re family.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:14:26pm

re: #161 Sherlock Hound

Must-read if you’re disabled and on social networks. This is why I won’t join Post.

This (from that article)…

Disabled people need social media platforms that expose politicians, government officials, management in business and non-profit sectors, academics, policymakers, and journalists to disability culture and priorities. Disabled people also want platforms that amplify their individual work beyond the disability community, and effectively boost their creative, business, and career opportunities.

…is not something that any social media system offers, it’s a result of a good social media system that people want to use, which in turn brings in those people mentioned above. And Twitter didn’t become that over night or over months…It took years and years and it took people making Twitter THE preferred system which in turn brought in the journos, politicians, and so on.

I mention this because if this is a Must Have, there will never be a Twitter replacement, at least for the next several years.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:15:33pm

TFG tax returns:

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Nyet  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:17:56pm

re: #223 jaunte

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it enough to simply submit something as a part of the record?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:18:10pm

re: #186 Patricia Kayden

Why the brouhaha over this dinner when Trump has been cuddling up to White Supremacists and extremists for his entire presidency? This reaction from many on the right seems odd.

They just got their asses kicked in an election they expected to dominate. Evidently, some of them seem to think trying to soften their messaging is the way to go.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:18:37pm

re: #224 Nyet

Yes, it doesn’t have to be read in, just a document add.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:18:59pm

I think in the form of a motion.

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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:19:35pm

Grrr…

I went to Amazon using the Firefox browser a few minutes ago and all the product pages were essentially greyed/darkened out. After a bunch of googling and some testing, the solution was to force a full page reload (hold shift key down and left click the reload icon).

That is all.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:20:19pm

re: #149 I Would Prefer Not To

Not enough fucks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:20:36pm

re: #140 GlutenFreeJesus

I hate when the idiots have their names covered up.

That is a requirement to post commentary at Reddit.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:21:49pm

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yeah. Still hate it. 😂

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:29:53pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:29:58pm

I just went with the dogs in the rain. Usually I try and work through material for an upcoming show (Monday night, more latter). Today I couldn’t get the video clips of Fuentes out of my mind. My conclusion is that I couldn’t be in the same room as him without attempting to take a swing or two. How is that POS still alive? Fuck him and all nazis.

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:31:16pm

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beautiful voice, great keyboards. A major part of the Fleetwood Mac sound.

RIP, Christine.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:31:38pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:32:42pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

I saw a Twitter thread that lined up with my understanding of the process from back when I worked in Apple App development. The gist of it:

Apple probably sent Twitter a notification that an update to their app was rejected. This has probably happened hundreds of times; Twitter has probably been in violation of these policies for a while, but previously, both Apple and Twitter had contacts to work out these violations and get the app manually approved. But Elon probably sacked the person at Twitter who was responsible for this process, so the notification went nowhere. It does have an auto-escalation process, so Elon probably eventually got wind of it, and that’s when he went on the warpath.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:33:43pm

Toxoplasma gondii is a ubiquitous protozoan parasite that can infect any warm-blooded species. In lab studies, infection with T. gondii has been shown to increase dopamine and testosterone levels along with risk-taking behaviors in hosts including rodents, chimps, and hyenas. Oh, and humans.

But its effects have not really been studied in the wild, so some researchers decided to assess how infection impacts gray wolves in Yellowstone National Park. They found that “the odds that a seropositive [infected] wolf becomes a pack leader is more than 46 times higher than a seronegative wolf becoming a pack leader.”

arstechnica.com

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:33:43pm

re: #168 Jay C

*Ahem*. “GOVENOR” ??

Had me worried for a bit but all is now right with the world

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:35:51pm

re: #106 Dopamine Fish

Uhh, Kevin… What the ACTUAL EVER-LOVING FUCK does that have to do with the railway deal?!?!?

Just playing another game of Wingnut Buzzword Bingo.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:37:11pm

re: #223 jaunte

TFG tax returns:

The second day when they’re in charge in the House, Greene will submit Biden’s taxes to the record. Democrats should all have copies of them in hand to wave at her when she does.

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sagehen  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:42:11pm

She’s already “threatened” to subpoena them. Even though he put them online himself. Every year for the last… however many years there’s been such a thing as “online”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:45:47pm
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austin_blue  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:48:44pm

re: #45 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

I am currently rereading the Tiffany Aching sub-series of the Prachett Discworld books. And a big key to the services that witches provide there is essentially that. They watch out for those that need that extra bit of help. (There is a lot more to it, but they are essentially an important rural community service in those books.)

Great series.

“Crivens! Where’s our Great Wee Hag?”

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:53:29pm

Where have Ivanka & Jared been all this time since the Fuentes brouhaha? Have they said a word? I thought they were the “Jew Whisperers.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 3:54:43pm

thread

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:00:02pm

re: #201 Dopamine Fish

So he’s in violation of the GDPR, EU employment law, what else can we get him on? It’s clear he has no experience working with a global enterprise.

The type of international relations Elon appreciates is the type he has in China, where he knows if he missteps one millimeter out of line the Chinese Government will come down on him like a hammer on his massive factory and sales operations there.

Dude-bros and right wing trolls love them some dictatorship-level power. They really do appreciate and respect it. They have no concerns or love for democracy. In short, it would be easy to call Elon a coward since he has never said anything remotely bad about Chinese authorities and their lack of freedoms (absolutist free speech, anyone?), but that would mean he didn’t actually love them. He’s not a coward, he’s a willing partner swimming in hubris and hypocrisy.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:01:53pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

Shit, I could go to Home Depot and buy a ladder that would get me over that wall easily.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:02:29pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:03:57pm
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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:07:22pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:09:46pm
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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:11:17pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

thread

Your typical settler emergency barriers in The Walking Dead look better than that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:11:25pm
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austin_blue  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:13:58pm

re: #103 Dopamine Fish

The concept of “legal entities” goes over some people’s heads, but it’s pretty straightforward when viewed in this context. In order to do business in Europe, Twitter has to have some way of complying with European law. That is by means of a legal entity, without which Twitter is not allowed to operate in Europe.

Huh.

You know, where I come from there is this thing called “Due diligence”. This is what someone does before buying a property they want to turn into a subdivision, because it might once have been a landfill that accepted waste from chemical and oil refineries. You know, that whole Love Canal thing that resulted in CERCLA and the Superfund Acts.

Surely, the Genius Elon Musk’s crack legal team were told to check out the EU’s rules and regs before the The Boss opened his Cakehole and offered to buy Twitter for $44 b-b-b-billion, right?

Right? Surely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:16:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:17:40pm
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:20:27pm

re: #239 sizzzzlerz

Just playing another game of Wingnut Buzzword Bingo.

And this man may be the next speaker of the house of Representatives. Are you terrified? I know I am.

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:24:55pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

What is Post?

A new social site that people are waitlisted for. They said this recently:

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:25:25pm

re: #222 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

[…]

I mention this because if this is a Must Have, there will never be a Twitter replacement, at least for the next several years.

There will be, we just won’t know which one it is.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:27:18pm

re: #213 EPR-radar

Dear Ted Cruz:

Decent people don’t hate Trump for no reason at all (hate for no reason is what you right wing nut jobs do). Decent people despise bigots and criminals, and the criminals should be tried for their crimes and sentenced accordingly if found guilty.

Trump is a bigot and a criminal. I know you believe, sincerely, that it is impossible for a Republican to also be a criminal, but the reality is different, and, in fact, “Republican” and “criminal” are damn near synonyms these days.

With high hopes that this note finds you in the process of slowly and painfully disappearing up your own rectum,

Sincerely,

a target of your hatred.

PS: Decent people don’t hate you for no reason at all either.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:27:25pm

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In extremely local news, the plumber just left after extracting $280 from us for repairs. $130 of that is the charge to come all the way the hell out here.

My brother just had a water heater break, which required a new tank to be installed. The tank was under warranty and thus the tank cost was $0. The labor for installation and a few fitting parts were not covered by the warranty and came to about $900.

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:28:51pm

Later that same day…

Sunscreen
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:29:57pm

re: #205 Dopamine Fish

I saw our very own @jaunte retweet this, and just had to post it here. A big legal victory here in Minnesota, as the George Floyd protesters prevail in their civil suit against the Minneapolis Police Department for their heavy-handed tactics in the summer of 2020. Part of their punishment:

Watch the rules of what constitutes a “lawful protest” change rapidly.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:30:47pm

re: #259 wrenchwench

There will be, we just won’t know which one it is.

No matter what void happens, it will be filled. Nature abbhors a vacuum.

Not a good thing
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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:34:07pm

….

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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:42:39pm

re: #222 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

We made Twitter. The disabled community and everybody else who stayed and built.
Neither Mastodon or Post can give me that.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:47:17pm

Cochise County opted into the fucking around. They are about to find out.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:48:36pm
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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:48:56pm
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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:50:36pm

re: #264 Colère Tueur de Lapin

A friend once noted:

“Nature may abhor a vacuum. But not half as much as a cat.”

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:52:35pm

re: #270 ckkatz

A friend once noted:

“Nature may abhor a vacuum. But not half as much as a cat.”

Nature abhors a cat?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:57:12pm

Ha. Just saw this on Counter Social

People who don’t know the difference between entomology and etymology bug me more than I can put into words.

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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 4:57:20pm

The loss of content and community when Musk ratfucked twitter is being mourned by a lot of content creators and their communities.

I have not had much chance yet to look at other social media platforms, but I do see noticeably less posting by useful content creators on twitter. From what I can see, many creators are retreating to their own websites or things like substack. I do wonder if some billionaire will try and grab that material as well.

Definitely a tragedy of the commons.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:01:11pm
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:01:14pm

re: #270 ckkatz

A friend once noted:

“Nature may abhor a vacuum. But not half as much as a cat.”

And what separates us from the animals is that we are not afraid of vacuum cleaners.

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ckkatz  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:01:41pm

re: #271 Dangerman

:)

And back atcha -

(Need to scroll to see the comment at the bottom of the picture.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:05:07pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:05:16pm

Crowder Goes Full Nazi While Addressing Kanye Vs Tim Pool

Spoilered, because ugly while not explicitly slurs:

Click to Reveal

Look is there a conversation to be had about secular humanists with Jewish last names in Hollywood exploiting people in positions of, you know, the performance arts talent? Yeah! is there a disproportionate number of people with Jewish last names in higher banking? That’s an argument that can be made.

This is a three sentence condensation of what I’ve been ranting about for a fortnight.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:11:14pm

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:16:43pm

Tomorrow’s Wordle is late, is late, for a not very important date.

Click to Reveal

Run of the mill. Humdrum. Everyday. Unexceptional.

Wordle 530 4/6

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SibData: 4,4,4

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(((Archangel1)))  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:19:35pm

Bwahahahahaha, oh PLEASE may this happen!

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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:23:23pm

Never seem this amount of knob polishing, it’s pathetic

(This is a lie)

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jaunte  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:24:38pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:32:44pm

re: #281 (((Archangel1)))

Bwahahahahaha!

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As I said downstairs, if this holds, it is very bad. This case disenfranchises their voters. But if it worked, the next time the strategy would be used to disenfranchise “those people”. They don’t want Democrats to have a chance to win in a purple (or red state) and they will engage in any dishonest ploy to stop these votes from being included, as Trump repeatedly tried to do in the 2020 election.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:34:54pm

re: #279 Eventual Carrion

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Want

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:36:21pm

re: #285 Barefoot Grin

Want

[Bart Simpson]

Mom, get me Flintstones chewables with morphine!

[/Bart Simpson]

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:40:14pm

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

As I said downstairs, if this holds, it is very bad. This case disenfranchises their voters. But if it worked, the next time the strategy would be used to disenfranchise “those people”. They don’t want Democrats to have a chance to win in a purple (or red state) and they will engage in any dishonest ploy to stop these votes from being included, as Trump repeated tried to do in the 2020 election.

The democrats are suing so republican voters are not being disenfranchised. Hobbs is leading that lawsuit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 30, 2022 • 5:40:51pm

re: #224 Nyet

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it enough to simply submit something as a part of the record?

They can, but how many people actually read the Congressional Record?

On of the big whinges the GOP has over the January 6 committee is it’s being broadcast publicly. They know if the committee did its work and simply published it in the Record, no one would read it.

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Jay C  Nov 30, 2022 • 6:04:04pm

re: #284 Hecuba’s daughter

As I said downstairs, if this holds, it is very bad. This case disenfranchises their voters. But if it worked, the next time the strategy would be used to disenfranchise “those people”. They don’t want Democrats to have a chance to win in a purple (or red state) and they will engage in any dishonest ploy to stop these votes from being included, as Trump repeatedly tried to do in the 2020 election.

Why would this “work”?
Maybe I’m missing something here, but AFAIK, the Cochise County vote totals - the ones these idiots seem so hellbent reluctant to certify - would give the victory (and the House seat) to the Republican. I can sorta understand these fascists trying to disenfranchise opposition votes, but it seems a Special Kind Of Stupid to blank votes for your own side….
😳

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piratedan  Nov 30, 2022 • 6:45:47pm

re: #289 Jay C

and the other point not mentioned, is that is the federal offices and state offices are affected (and they are) think about all of the down the ballot items, including the state propositions and each and every local election, from county supervisors to local town mayors and selectmen, county constables and law enforcement.

and I would be hard pressed to believe that any judge, state or federal would allow them to pull this kabuki and condone all of the potential reverberations, especially when their “arguments” are so well grounded in legal niceties, like “feelings”.

The other consideration is that these aren’t rational people and they’ve had plenty of time to call into question how the process and validation are done and if anything, it’s been improved since 2020 when Hobbs took over as Sec of State and she won a close race because the previous GOP office holder fucked up so egregiously, that she was denied re-election.

while these asshats are dangerous people, they are NOT serious people in that they have about as much understanding of civics as they do quantum theory.

How we go about disabusing them of continued asshattery is an interesting concept, short of exposing them as being incredulously misguided and shaming them as being unworthy of holding a public office.

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TedStriker  Nov 30, 2022 • 7:02:11pm

re: #252 Florida Panhandler

Your typical settler emergency barriers in The Walking Dead look better than that.

And the first big sustained gusts hit that “wall” broadside, it’s going over.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2022 • 8:55:20pm

re: #281 (((Archangel1)))

Bwahahahahaha, oh PLEASE may this happen!

Is that a precedent we want? Imagine if the people in charge of certifying Harris Co or Fulton Co become a GQP majority and decide to pull this sort of stunt on purpose to overturn a Democrat winning?


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