The Bob Cesca Interview: Legal Expert Dr. Tracy Pearson

Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Dr. Tracy Pearson — Dr. Tracy is a legal expert who shares Wednesday nights with Bob on Tell Me Everything with John Fugelsang. She’s also a regular contributor on Dr. Phil, Newsnatiion, CheddarNews, and TV affiliates across the country. Follow Dr. Tracy on Twitter @TracyExplains. Today Bob peppered Dr. Tracy with questions about Trump’s New York City criminal fraud trial and more – you’ll want to stick around for the part about Trump potentially getting tossed in jail for contempt. Meantime, don’t forget to support this podcast by subscribing us at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by The Donnies The Armys.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 17, 2024 • 2:49:43pm

bsky.app

gocart mozart Apr 17, 2024 • 2:54:33pm

https://t.co/cvVPVNBGr6

— Edwin Mix (@EdMix13) April 17, 2024

Patricia Kayden Apr 17, 2024 • 2:55:55pm

And stocks and sneakers.

IngisKahn Apr 17, 2024 • 2:56:24pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

I think most usages of LLMs are misguided. For my usage it’s been a game changer for NLP.

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 2:59:10pm

Mastodon

gwangung Apr 17, 2024 • 3:02:52pm

re: #5 darthstar

The problem, of course, is all the other car drivers, who think it’s their God given duty to mow down any bicyclist on the road, electric or manual….

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 3:16:38pm

re: #6 gwangung

The problem, of course, is all the other car drivers, who think it’s their God given duty to mow down any bicyclist on the road, electric or manual….

That’s a mostly American problem…and becoming less so in communities that are making bike lanes more visible (green paint) or putting bike paths next to the road. I can get downtown (5 miles) without getting on Highway 1 at all except to cross it at a light. Granted, I do that in my Ram 1500, but I COULD do it on an e-bike…I just couldn’t take the dogs with me.

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 17, 2024 • 3:20:04pm

The Democrats took back the Michigan House in a special election.
theguardian.com

PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 3:21:17pm

re: #8 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Good.

Egregious Philbin Apr 17, 2024 • 3:29:41pm

re: #6 gwangung

I see it first hand every day. I am on track to do 3500-4000 miles on my e-bike this year. I put less miles on my car.

Vicious Babushka Apr 17, 2024 • 3:31:24pm

re: #8 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

The Democrats took back the Michigan House in a special election.
theguardian.com

Mastodon

EPR-radar Apr 17, 2024 • 3:32:23pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

More to the point is this — Christians have warned about the antiChrist for millennia, and when he shows up, the US religious right worships him.

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 3:38:41pm

re: #7 darthstar

That’s a mostly American problem…and becoming less so in communities that are making bike lanes more visible (green paint) or putting bike paths next to the road. I can get downtown (5 miles) without getting on Highway 1 at all except to cross it at a light. Granted, I do that in my Ram 1500, but I COULD do it on an e-bike…I just couldn’t take the dogs with me.

Green is for going between the right-turn lane and the going straight lane, it is for going straight without being killed by a right turning vehicle. Visibility is good, but the green lane has that specific use. Unless the various states each have their own rules.

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 3:40:04pm

re: #3 Patricia Kayden

And stocks and sneakers.

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And snake oil.
Hydroxychloroquine could have caused 17,000 deaths during Covid, study finds
Former US President Donald Trump said: ‘What do you have to lose? Take it.’

BeenHereAwhile Apr 17, 2024 • 3:40:13pm

More Re Long Covid:

Director of the Institutes of Health (NIH), Monica Bertagnolli, states that Covid is a chronic infection and that they believe this is the cause of Long Covid disease much to the surprise of Dr Faust from the Medpage website interviewing her…

Faust: I just want to follow up on something you said a moment ago about where this virus can be found in tissues. Are you suggesting that long COVID is actually, the mechanism of that, is persistent live virus in humans?

Bertagnolli: We see evidence of persistent live virus in humans in various tissue reservoirs, including surrounding nerves, the brain, the GI [gastrointestinal] tract, to the lung.

Faust: OK. And you’re saying this goes beyond the PCR’s [polymerase chain reactior test] ability to get it in a regular swab so that we are missing chronic cases of SARS-CoV-2?

Bertagnolli: Correct. The virus can persist in tissues for months, perhaps even years

Faust: OK. I think that’s certainly one theory, but I’m not sure that that’s settled. Is that fair? I mean, there’s one thing between people who are autopsy, they died of viral sepsis, as opposed to people walking around. Is there a distinction there?

Bertagnolli: Our emerging data shows that the virus can persist into tissues in the long term, and I think that’s really critical because it does help us think about possible ways to combat it, one being better antivirals. I think there’s a lot of focus on developing new antivirals as a possible way of preventing long COVID, and the other might be more aggressive treatment with antiviral therapy upon initial diagnosis.

x.com

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 3:41:59pm

I do hope Honest Don enjoyed his day off from criminal trial today. I predict he’ll be drooping by 11:30 tomorrow.

nines09 Apr 17, 2024 • 3:46:46pm

re: #14 jaunte

And snake oil.
Hydroxychloroquine could have caused 17,000 deaths during Covid, study finds
Former US President Donald Trump said: ‘What do you have to lose? Take it.’

Remember the GOP did everything they could to block body counts and outbreaks.
They hid information that most likely was criminal in intent.
To make the virus look less deadly. Not vax, no mask, crawl over people with masks, start shit, be the glowing example of Republican compassion.
I feel warm and fuzzy knowing the majority of those deaths were GOP and Trump voters who thought he was a caring, loving murderer.
Nope. Just a murderer.

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 3:49:55pm

Clarence Thomas didn’t recuse himself from the J6 case…

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 3:49:57pm

re: #17 nines09

Remember the GOP did everything they could to block body counts and outbreaks.
They hid information that most likely was criminal in intent.
To make the virus look less deadly. Not vax, no mask, crawl over people with masks, start shit, be the glowing example of Republican compassion.
I feel warm and fuzzy knowing the majority of those deaths were GOP and Trump voters who thought he was a caring, loving murderer.
Nope. Just a murderer.

Maybe Trump should wear a mask while in court.

nines09 Apr 17, 2024 • 3:53:58pm

re: #19 wrenchwench

Fall down a flight of marble stairs….Twice.

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 3:58:45pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

bsky.app

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Disclaimer: I’ve been involved with an AI startup for about a year.
IMHO she’s mostly off base on AI. It is already incredibly useful in some domains, and will only become more so as time goes on. The comparison to block chain is off base. Block chain is an interesting idea looking for legit use cases. AI can help accelerate many things that are already being done. It’ll increase productivity by more than office PCs did.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 4:02:02pm

re: #7 darthstar

That’s a mostly American problem…and becoming less so in communities that are making bike lanes more visible (green paint) or putting bike paths next to the road. I can get downtown (5 miles) without getting on Highway 1 at all except to cross it at a light. Granted, I do that in my Ram 1500, but I COULD do it on an e-bike…I just couldn’t take the dogs with me.

And my 25 mile drive to work, which is now 10 times rougher because they are doing work on it, would destroy a moped.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 4:05:21pm

Machine learning (ML), a subset of AI that enables computers to learn from training data, has been highly effective at predicting various types of cancer, including breast, brain, lung, liver, and prostate cancer. In fact, AI and ML have demonstrated greater accuracy in predicting cancer than clinicians.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.

I often see people comment on something like machine learning and assume their particular use is the only one happening.

Charles Johnson Apr 17, 2024 • 4:06:00pm

It’s Raining Bullshit

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 4:11:30pm

Mastodon

Ron Wyden is my favorite Senator.

jeffreyw Apr 17, 2024 • 4:17:34pm

post.news

Ace Rothstein Apr 17, 2024 • 4:23:12pm

I had a deep cleaning done to my teeth the last two Tuesdays. My dumb ass went way too long without visiting the dentist and I paid some serious stupid tax because of it. The procedure is not that bad, the only thing that’s even remotely painful (this is after you’re given the topical) is the needle with the anesthesia into the front gums. Then I just listened to music while the hygienist did her thing, and it’s remarkable how good my teeth and gums look. Next, a trip to the orthodontist. Turns out getting braces in your early 50s is much more common these days.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 4:24:16pm

The story I put up last night about Lakepointe Church using the same apology as another church made the news.

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 4:28:08pm

re: #13 wrenchwench

In MD, the law states that bike are equivalent to cars. The link in Montgomery Co., but it’s state wide. I would use that in the north or east. But the counties closed to DC are pretty safe. And we have been lanes, too.

ckkatz Apr 17, 2024 • 4:30:06pm

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Dangerman Apr 17, 2024 • 4:31:48pm

How humiliating. The Charlotte GOP accidentally mocked a word-for-word transcript of Donald Trump’s incoherent speech without realizing it was Trump’s words. pic.twitter.com/djVmrOcZPk

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) April 17, 2024

🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 17, 2024 • 4:37:17pm

re: #31 Dangerman

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The person running that account thinks they know what they’re doing because no one hurt their feelings when they failed earlier.

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 4:38:18pm

re: #29 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

In MD, the law states that bike are equivalent to cars. The link in Montgomery Co., but it’s state wide. I would use that in the north or east. But the counties closed to DC are pretty safe. And we have been lanes, too.

Most states consider cyclists to be vehicles, with the same rights and responsibilities, and a few more restrictions. In Oregon, a cyclist has the right to use any road, except freeways when they are in urban areas. The rest of the places, freeways are OK.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 4:39:12pm

Kaitlyn Clark will make…. $76,000 for her first year in the WNBA.

Ace Rothstein Apr 17, 2024 • 4:40:48pm

re: #34 Belafon

Kaitlyn Clark will make…. $76,000 for her first year in the WNBA.

Correct, though she’s already made $3.1M from various NIL deals.

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 4:42:35pm

re: #31 Dangerman

Are the Meidas people sure that’s not a parody?

teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 4:42:44pm

re: #34 Belafon

Kaitlyn Clark will make…. $76,000 for her first year in the WNBA.

Lebron James makes almost six times that much money per game.

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 4:46:22pm

re: #7 darthstar

That’s a mostly American problem…and becoming less so in communities that are making bike lanes more visible (green paint) or putting bike paths next to the road. I can get downtown (5 miles) without getting on Highway 1 at all except to cross it at a light. Granted, I do that in my Ram 1500, but I COULD do it on an e-bike…I just couldn’t take the dogs with me.

By a fluke of neighborhood geography, we are located 1 mile from a hospital/medical complex, two large groceries, and a slew of restaurants and such. At our age, an electric 2-seater trike is starting to look attractive if there is an affordable one out there. A hidden benefit is that it would extend the useful life of the Mommyvan by taking the wear off it.

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 4:48:05pm

re: #31 Dangerman

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It’s an account with 300 followers. Many of them probably gained since MT retweeted them.

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 4:49:37pm

NBA vs WNBA: Revenue, Salaries, Viewership, Attendance and Ratings
wsn.com

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 4:52:38pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

etrikeco.com

Charles Johnson Apr 17, 2024 • 4:54:17pm

the best thing about this trial may be hearing all the cable news hosts trying to keep a straight face when they say “david pecker.”

yes, i am that juvenile.

Charles Johnson Apr 17, 2024 • 4:56:01pm

At least his name isn’t Richard Pecker.

Romantic Heretic Apr 17, 2024 • 4:58:21pm

re: #1 goddamnedfrank

The motivations for AI should always be remembered.

The rich and powerful want their slaves back.

The techbros want to build hot women who will fuck them for free.

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 4:58:32pm

re: #41 darthstar

Checking it/them out.

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 5:00:05pm

re: #44 Romantic Heretic

The motivations for AI should always be remembered.

The rich and powerful want their slaves back.

The techbros want to build hot women who will fuck them for free.

More like execs want AI to do analytical tasks that they’d normally outsource to a big 4 consulting firm for $350/hr per junior analyst.

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 5:00:54pm

re: #45 Decatur Deb

Checking it/them out.

The in-line seating should handle better than side-by-side.

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 5:03:21pm

re: #47 wrenchwench

The in-line seating should handle better than side-by-side.

The rear seat could be removable for heavy shopping. Got to check AL street legality, but almost everything is.

danarchy Apr 17, 2024 • 5:03:53pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

At least his name isn’t Richard Pecker.

Hey, there used to be a congressman named Dick Swett, you’d think with that last name he might opt to go with Rich or Rick.

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 5:08:15pm

re: #48 Decatur Deb

The rear seat could be removable for heavy shopping. Got to check AL street legality, but almost everything is.

I’ve had a trailer for over a year, in case of heavy shopping. I’ve used it twice. I’m hoping to take it camping someday.

Last weekend my friend from Seattle visited, and we took our bikes for a ride. Loaded them in her truck, drove to a bird sanctuary, and went for a hike. when we got back, we took the bikes out of the truck.

Charles Johnson Apr 17, 2024 • 5:10:51pm

re: #30 ckkatz

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Romantic Heretic Apr 17, 2024 • 5:11:23pm

re: #21 JC1

And like the increase of productivity of office PCs most of the wealth generated by that increase will go to the already wealthy.

It’s how our economic system works.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 5:12:01pm

re: #44 Romantic Heretic

The motivations for AI should always be remembered.

The rich and powerful want their slaves back.

The techbros want to build hot women who will fuck them for free.

Wow, seriously fucked that statement is. Might as well say it about physics, math, engineering, and philosophy.

TarHellion Apr 17, 2024 • 5:12:02pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

There was a kid in my high school named Harland Dick. Everyone called him Harry. Also, the plumbing company I once managed did a service call for a guy named Dick Washer

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 5:15:31pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Richard Cranium.

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 5:16:20pm

re: #50 wrenchwench

That ebike seems workable for this environment. It would probably never be asked to get wet or make a 10 mile trip. The 18mph top speed is a little risky, but with a little titivation….

Lancelot Link Returns! Apr 17, 2024 • 5:16:49pm

re: #55 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Randy Johnson, “The Big Unit”

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 5:17:05pm

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 5:17:34pm

The new deputy commissioner for human foods at FDA is Jim Jones. Nothing fucked up there. At least he does joke about it.

Nerdy Fish Apr 17, 2024 • 5:17:45pm

re: #53 Belafon

Wow, seriously fucked that statement is. Might as well say it about physics, math, engineering, and philosophy.

I don’t want to set anyone off with this take, but honestly, that’s not really the case. Unlike those fields, the people promoting AI have actually stated that this is what they want. Their whole goal for AI is to “improve productivity” (read: use computers to do jobs currently done by people, hence, “want their slaves back”), and as for the sex robots, I think I saw several articles here about LLM-based chat bots that were intended to “provide companionship for lonely men.” While the original poster’s phrasing may have been slightly crude and blunt, I don’t think they’re wrong.

Romantic Heretic Apr 17, 2024 • 5:18:25pm

re: #46 JC1

Well, slavery hasn’t always been brute labour. As I understand it, many slaves in Greece and Rome were well educated and did intellectual work.

All their owners had to do was feed and house them.

I wonder if I should teach AI to say, “I am Spartacus!”

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 5:19:12pm

re: #59 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

The new deputy commissioner for human foods at FDA is Bob Jones. Nothing fucked up there. At least he does joke about it.

What’s his policy on drink mixes?

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 5:21:20pm

re: #61 Romantic Heretic

Well, slavery hasn’t always been brute labour. As I understand it, many slaves in Greece and Rome were well educated and did intellectual work.

All their owners had to do was feed and house them.

I wonder if I should teach AI to say, “I am Spartacus!”

Wasn’t all bad for all slaves in the South. There was a class called “Domestic Specialists” or something similar.

teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 5:21:32pm

I worked beverage carts at the new golf course in town when I was a teenager. My boss’s name was Harry Johnson.

ckkatz Apr 17, 2024 • 5:22:36pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

>Oh, good. I didn’t do anything but I’ll gladly take the credit!

Something may have timed out.
But, heck, you built it.
And, it seems to me that you usually get blamed for stuff.
So, it seems to me that you deserve credit when things resolve , even if auto-magically.

>You know you can download your library in a ZIP file, right?

Err… Mongo did not know that…

Nerdy Fish Apr 17, 2024 • 5:22:53pm

Note: This amendment was offered for the standalone Israel funding bill. Yes, that’s right, Margarine Tater-Greens wants to take over the fucking Jewish Space Laser.

Eventual Carrion Apr 17, 2024 • 5:23:08pm

re: #54 TarHellion

There was a kid in my high school named Harland Dick. Everyone called him Harry. Also, the plumbing company I once managed did a service call for a guy named Dick Washer

In high school we had an athletic director and gym teacher named Dick Angle, of course we called him Bent Penis (not to his face of course).

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 5:23:46pm

re: #64 teleskiguy

I met a guy in my college dorm who introduced himself,
“I’m Fielding Cocke haha I laughed so you don’t have to.”

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 5:26:37pm

re: #66 Nerdy Fish

At last, we’ll be able to measure the distance to the horizon on the border.

“…The laser light is at 532 nanometers, a bright green on the visible spectrum. It is fast-firing - it sends 10,000 pulses per second, as compared to the laser on the first ICESat, which sent 40 pulses per second. With this incredibly fast pulse rate, ATLAS can take measurements every 2.3 feet along the satellite’s ground path.”
https://icesat-2.gsfc.nasa.gov/space-lasers#:~:text=ATLAS%20carries%20two%20lasers%2C%20one,sent%2040%20pulses%20per%20second.

Dangerman Apr 17, 2024 • 5:27:03pm

re: #60 Nerdy Fish

I don’t want to set anyone off with this take, but honestly, that’s not really the case. Unlike those fields, the people promoting AI have actually stated that this is what they want. Their whole goal for AI is to “improve productivity” (read: use computers to do jobs currently done by people, hence, “want their slaves back”), and as for the sex robots, I think I saw several articles here about LLM-based chat bots that were intended to “provide companionship for lonely men.” While the original poster’s phrasing may have been slightly crude and blunt, I don’t think they’re wrong.

In a narrow sense it’s what computers are.
What word processors are
Spreadsheets
Cad/cam
databases
Other applications..order processing a/r, a/p invoicing inventory, tax,
On and on

Automate the repetitive, remove a lot of error-prone parts. Do the same tasks with less people, faster and with better control, allowing the remaining users to function at a higher level.

Nerdy Fish Apr 17, 2024 • 5:27:37pm

re: #69 jaunte

At last, we’ll be able to measure the distance to the horizon on the border.

She posted an amendment for the Ukraine bill that requires any representative who votes for the bill to join the Ukrainian military. She’s a real piece of work.

wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 5:29:07pm

Mastodon

Nerdy Fish Apr 17, 2024 • 5:29:12pm

And yes, I’m aware these amendments are all purely performative, meant only to try to kill the bill should they become attached. But you’d think she could come up with more original bullshit.

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 5:33:02pm

re: #61 Romantic Heretic

Well, slavery hasn’t always been brute labour. As I understand it, many slaves in Greece and Rome were well educated and did intellectual work.

All their owners had to do was feed and house them.

I wonder if I should teach AI to say, “I am Spartacus!”

The potential of AI is so huge, that it almost doesn’t matter what the motivation is. One constant of computer tech is that stuff gets cheaper and more powerful over time. I’m typing this on a phone that’s more powerful than the world’s most powerful computer a few decades ago.

Pretty much everyone has a smartphone. For $20/month (a fraction of the average cable bill or cell bill) you can get access to ChatGPT plus, which gives you access to GPT 4 Turbo, one of the most capable models available today.
API access pricing is getting cheaper, and this trend won’t stop.
The tech will only get better and will be available to virtually everyone.

And we’re still at the barely crawling stages of this.

cat-tikvah Apr 17, 2024 • 5:33:43pm

re: #71 Nerdy Fish

She posted an amendment for the Ukraine bill that requires any representative who votes for the bill to join the Ukrainian military. She’s a real piece of work.

Okay, then, anyone who votes against must join the Russian infantry

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 5:35:31pm

re: #75 cat-tikvah

And give up their positions in the nomenklatura?

Dangerman Apr 17, 2024 • 5:36:43pm

re: #73 Nerdy Fish

And yes, I’m aware these amendments are all purely performative, meant only to try to kill the bill should they become attached. But you’d think she could come up with more original bullshit.

Why? ;-)

Decatur Deb Apr 17, 2024 • 5:38:26pm

re: #77 Dangerman

Why? ;-)

The well-known GOP passion for excellence.

teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 5:43:34pm

New avalanche dog at Beaver Creek | Instagram

sagehen Apr 17, 2024 • 5:50:47pm

re: #40 jaunte

NBA vs WNBA: Revenue, Salaries, Viewership, Attendance and Ratings
wsn.com

now do soccer.

Lancelot Link Returns! Apr 17, 2024 • 5:51:37pm

re: #74 JC1

Wow! More convincing bullshit than ever before! Hoo-ray!

sagehen Apr 17, 2024 • 5:53:48pm

re: #59 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

The new deputy commissioner for human foods at FDA is Bob Jones. Nothing fucked up there. At least he does joke about it.

at least it’s not Jim Jones

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 5:57:02pm

re: #81 Lancelot Link Returns!

Wow! More convincing bullshit than ever before! Hoo-ray!

Yep. Total bullshit like medical diagnosis with up to date best practices and advances. Sounds horrible.

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 5:57:44pm

Cyber truck is a cyber suck

Mastodon

jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 6:03:25pm

re: #84 darthstar

Also from Jalopnik:

A Tesla Fanatic Said He Called The Cops On A Rivian Driver For Using A Supercharger Station
Rivian vehicles are compatible with Tesla’s charging network now

darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 6:03:56pm

Nerdy Fish Apr 17, 2024 • 6:08:22pm

re: #86 darthstar

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It took me a good 3 minutes to process what was going on in that photograph. When it finally made sense, I literally facepalmed IRL.

steve_davis Apr 17, 2024 • 6:10:34pm

re: #21 JC1

Disclaimer: I’ve been involved with an AI startup for about a year.
IMHO she’s mostly off base on AI. It is already incredibly useful in some domains, and will only become more so as time goes on. The comparison to block chain is off base. Block chain is an interesting idea looking for legit use cases. AI can help accelerate many things that are already being done. It’ll increase productivity by more than office PCs did.

AI is just dumb as fuck. I’m sure it will likely get better, but it doesn’t seem to be “learning” anything that I can see. Essentially what I’m doing is helping a LLM sound like it knows what it’s talking about so that it can answer questions from people without hallucinating about stuff. That’s not intelligent. That’s just something that’s proficient at running a con.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 6:10:44pm

re: #85 jaunte

Also from Jalopnik:

A Tesla Fanatic Said He Called The Cops On A Rivian Driver For Using A Supercharger Station
Rivian vehicles are compatible with Tesla’s charging network now

How dare “those” people demand equal access!

Charles Johnson Apr 17, 2024 • 6:12:27pm

I know I’m a few years behind the times but I just started watching “War for the Planet of the Apes” and I gotta say it’s much better than I expected.

steve_davis Apr 17, 2024 • 6:18:26pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Lebron James makes almost six times that much money per game.

Lebron James also probably gets watched by 200 times the number of people that a pro women’s game will draw. The women need to do like pro women’s soccer and build significant public interest so that somebody offers the league a billion dollar, 5-year deal, rather than the paltry amount they’re currently contracted for.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 6:18:28pm

re: #88 steve_davis

AI is just dumb as fuck. I’m sure it will likely get better, but it doesn’t seem to be “learning” anything that I can see. Essentially what I’m doing is helping a LLM sound like it knows what it’s talking about so that it can answer questions from people without hallucinating about stuff. That’s not intelligent. That’s just something that’s proficient at running a con.

Have you ever dealt with tech support and realized that the person is looking up your questions and responses in a notebook or in an in-house database? That’s all some of these systems are. They’re just better at doing the searching.

Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 6:19:43pm

re: #91 steve_davis

Lebron James also probably gets watched by 200 times the number of people that a pro women’s game will draw. The women need to do like pro women’s soccer and build significant public interest so that somebody offers the league a billion dollar, 5-year deal, rather than the paltry amount they’re currently contracted for.

What would be interesting would be to compare Larry Bird and Magic Johnson’s salary to theirs.

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 6:20:45pm

re: #82 sagehen

at least it’s not Jim Jones

It is Jim Jones - I had a brain fart. Fixed my post.

steve_davis Apr 17, 2024 • 6:21:35pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

At least his name isn’t Richard Pecker.

Clemson has an assistant basketball coach named Dick Bender. His name can’t even be used in discussion posts because the filter kicks it out as a vulgarity.

Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 17, 2024 • 6:31:03pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

More to the point is this — Christians have warned about the antiChrist for millennia, and when he shows up, the US religious right worships him.

They don’t just worship it.
They kiss its’ ass endlessly.

Romantic Heretic Apr 17, 2024 • 6:39:02pm

re: #70 Dangerman

This raises the question.

What will happen to a society like ours, that literally worships ‘work’, when there is little actual work to do?

Romantic Heretic Apr 17, 2024 • 6:42:13pm

re: #84 darthstar

Sounds just like a wankpanzer to me.

JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 6:45:04pm

re: #88 steve_davis

AI is just dumb as fuck. I’m sure it will likely get better, but it doesn’t seem to be “learning” anything that I can see. Essentially what I’m doing is helping a LLM sound like it knows what it’s talking about so that it can answer questions from people without hallucinating about stuff. That’s not intelligent. That’s just something that’s proficient at running a con.

Which model are you using?
With either Anthropic’s or OpenAI’s better models, it’s fairly easy to eliminate hallucinations if you restrict the answers to be based on the content of some documents that you provide (RAG approach). If you’re trying to fine-tune a model using RLHF then you’ll have a tougher time.

AI isn’t yet at the point of the automatic camera setting that takes nearly perfect pics most of the time. You still have to tweak the dials to make it do what you need, and there is a bit of art involved as well. Different models have different peculiarities.

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JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 6:46:37pm

re: #91 steve_davis

Lebron James also probably gets watched by 200 times the number of people that a pro women’s game will draw. The women need to do like pro women’s soccer and build significant public interest so that somebody offers the league a billion dollar, 5-year deal, rather than the paltry amount they’re currently contracted for.

The women’s NCAA march madness semifinal was watched by more people than the men’s. But yeah it’s got a ways to go.

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 6:49:16pm

re: #97 Romantic Heretic

This raises the question.

What will happen to a society like ours, that literally worships ‘work’, when there is little actual work to do?

More people will make art.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 17, 2024 • 6:53:39pm

re: #97 Romantic Heretic

This raises the question.

What will happen to a society like ours, that literally worships ‘work’, when there is little actual work to do?

Make fun of the unemployed people. Tell them to switch to service sectors jobs or “be enterpreneurs” in the gig economy.

Propose that maybe they have a cultural problem and don’t deserve help as they cycle into privation and despair.

I’m mean, that’s what happened when they shuttered all the national industry in England: blame the Northerners now signing up for the dole for not being agile and hungry enough, question whether they were trying hard enough to find new work. It’s also what’s happened in coal country in my state; it’s in the background of the horror of working homeless in California, too. Hollywood writers went on strike because they could envision a future in which they were never hired to be a writer, but only got a few hours of gig work cleaning up an LLM generated script that was based on their past work.

The worship of work has always been paired with a basically-eugenicist understanding of individual worth: If you’re not making it, it’s you’re fault and no one has to care, in fact caring is to the detriment of society in general. A lot of folks have internalized this, and actively work against labor rights and safety nets because they view “no handouts” as a moral issue. I see no reason that’s going to change.

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 6:54:51pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

More people will make art.

And others will run around calling us all heretics for not worshipping their god.

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Dangerman Apr 17, 2024 • 6:55:51pm

Whoever quoted from the book Wise Blood in the last few weeks, I just finished it.

It was….interesting.

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Markm1960 Apr 17, 2024 • 6:58:51pm

re: #95 steve_davis

Clemson has an assistant basketball coach named Dick Bender. His name can’t even be used in discussion posts because the filter kicks it out as a vulgarity.

Has anyone brought up the immortals Dick Button and Dick Trickle?

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JC1 Apr 17, 2024 • 6:59:14pm

re: #97 Romantic Heretic

This raises the question.

What will happen to a society like ours, that literally worships ‘work’, when there is little actual work to do?

Universal basic income and lots of leisure time would be ideal, and may happen in Western Europe.
No idea what will happen in the US.

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darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 7:01:52pm

Mastodon

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 7:06:58pm

Mastodon

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DodgerFan1988 Apr 17, 2024 • 7:26:31pm

Rodgers is repeating a Soviet-created psyop from the 1980s, an idea so stupid that even the Soviets can’t believe we fell for it.
This does not mean Rodgers is in bed with the Russians. He’s just too dumb to know where this particular conspiracy theory came from. https://t.co/ASE6pKFztC

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) April 17, 2024

Too many hits to the helmet.

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Cheechako Apr 17, 2024 • 7:29:18pm

What’s in a name?

Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn

The owner was skinny.
His name was Dick.
The Inn (Roadhouse) is halfway between Fairbanks and Nenana Alaska.

(And, yes, they have many risque items for sale.)

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 7:29:30pm

@miriam.lol

Social media makes me so angry but every now and then I come across something like this photo of a family of elephants sleeping and I’m in awe

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 7:36:18pm

re: #111 jaunte

@miriam.lol

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Elephantasy.

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:38:30pm

re: #91 steve_davis

Spoken like a true red blooded Capitalist.

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:39:20pm

steve_davis has to be a Capitalist. He’s in South Carolina. If he not a Capitalist he’s liable to get shot.

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 7:39:40pm

re: #112 wrenchwench

I identify with the one at lower left.

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sagehen Apr 17, 2024 • 7:42:22pm

re: #111 jaunte

@miriam.lol

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I thought elephants slept standing up?

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:42:37pm

There’s some… tension in here.

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 7:45:21pm

re: #117 teleskiguy

There’s some… tension in here.

Have an elephant.

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 7:46:15pm

re: #116 sagehen

My quick search says:

“…In captivity, elephants sleep 3 to 7 hours at night, lying down for 1 to 5 hours at a time and getting up to feed between naps. But in the wild in their natural surrounding the elephants rested for only two hours, mainly at night. The elephants in the wild sometimes went up to 46 hours without sleep while walking far distances to avoid threats such as lion or human poachers. African and Asian elephant still manage to lie down to sleep, both are sleeping on their sides for long periods, or take a nap while standing, leaning against a tree for support.”
elephantparade.com.

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:48:06pm

I fucking hate men. They are the worst.

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 7:48:26pm

“Elephants’ six inch thick skulls make measuring the brain’s electrical activity rather difficult, but it is thought that a reason for elephants needing to lie down to sleep from time to time is for REM sleep to occur, for the benefit of this deep sleep on creating their renowned remarkable memories.”
herd.org.za.

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 7:48:48pm

Dreaming elephants.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 17, 2024 • 7:49:08pm

Revealed: how companies made $100m clearing California homeless camps

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:51:17pm

When so many of my generation and younger are shut out of things like stable healthcare and home ownership I get quite offended by “Oh well, Lebron is paid better because he makes more money” arguments.

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:52:51pm

re: #95 steve_davis

Clemson has an assistant basketball coach named Dick Bender. His name can’t even be used in discussion posts because the filter kicks it out as a vulgarity.

That’s so fucking funny. I bet he’s paid handsomely, better than professors that are actually dispensing knowledge.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 7:56:19pm

re: #97 Romantic Heretic

This raises the question.

What will happen to a society like ours, that literally worships ‘work’, when there is little actual work to do?

This was a question in one of my philosophy classes many decades ago.

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 7:59:10pm

I have to leave.

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EstebanTornado1963 Apr 17, 2024 • 7:59:35pm

👋

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TedStriker Apr 17, 2024 • 8:03:24pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

At least his name isn’t Richard Pecker.

I once worked for a man named Dick Cary…

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Sherlock Hound Apr 17, 2024 • 8:07:03pm

re: #87 Nerdy Fish

It took me a good 3 minutes to process what was going on in that photograph. When it finally made sense, I literally facepalmed IRL.

Gets better: A boat—a boat!—was found one morning on the tracks at the commuter rail station in Cambridge. No one knows how or why it got on the tracks. Trains don’t usually meet up with boats unless one of them ends up in the water unexpectedly.

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sizzzzlerz Apr 17, 2024 • 8:31:47pm

re: #111 jaunte

@miriam.lol

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I wonder if they keep a guard elephant awake while the rest of the herd snoozes. Or maybe some part of their brains stay alert while asleep and it can rouse the creature when it senses danger. Then again, is there even a predator that would risk attacking a herd of sleeping elephants?

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jaunte Apr 17, 2024 • 8:34:02pm

re: #131 sizzzzlerz

Kariega Game Reserve, South Africa:
“…Some of the elephants in the herd stay awake while others take a nap. If there is any danger, the elephants who are awake, and probably feeding, will alert the rest of the herd and wake them up. The matriarch, the biggest and oldest female in the herd, might not sleep for many days to make sure her herd is safe. She will only to take a nap when she knows all of the elephants are safe.”
kariega.co.za

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Targetpractice Apr 17, 2024 • 8:34:44pm

re: #84 darthstar

Cyber truck is a cyber suck

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It’s not a workhorse, it’s a show horse. And just like a show horse, you’re not meant to actually do anything with it besides stow it in a covered shelter, pamper it to the maker’s exacting standards, and take it shows in a special trailer or on a dry and sunny day so that others may admire the otherwise useless hunk of scrap that you spent a king’s ransom to saddle yourself with.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 17, 2024 • 8:35:30pm

Wow Raskin and Comer are going at it pic.twitter.com/JalLGlLiF4

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 17, 2024

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 17, 2024 • 8:39:34pm

re: #110 Cheechako

What’s in a name?

Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn

The owner was skinny.
His name was Dick.
The Inn (Roadhouse) is halfway between Fairbanks and Nenana Alaska.

(And, yes, they have many risque items for sale.)

Along those lines:

The Uranus Fudge Factory.

Because (as the website says) “What happens in Uranus, stays in Uranus.”

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Apr 17, 2024 • 8:40:49pm

YouTube

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sizzzzlerz Apr 17, 2024 • 8:45:34pm

re: #133 Targetpractice

It’s not a workhorse, it’s a show horse. And just like a show horse, you’re not meant to actually do anything with it besides stow it in a covered shelter, pamper it to the maker’s exacting standards, and take it shows in a special trailer or on a dry and sunny day so that others may admire the otherwise useless hunk of scrap that you spent a king’s ransom to saddle yourself with.

Sounds like one of trump’s wives

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 8:51:41pm

re: #137 sizzzzlerz

Sounds like ~~one of~~ trump~~’s wives~~

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 8:53:13pm

The Reykjanes volcano is still going, and drone operator Leon Frey does a great job of getting 4K footage:

Grindavik Volcano Update – Drone Shots, April 17

..

The volcano has built up quite the lava platform.

How long it will last is unknown. The ground is still uplifting from magma feeds deep underground, so perhaps another fissure will open somewhere.

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 8:53:16pm

Camper Van Beethoven - Good Guys and Bad Guys

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 9:03:04pm

So the third episode of Ari Wallach’s documentary is out:

Once Upon a Time Episode 3

What can I say that I have not already said?

In this episode Hayhoe explicitly mentions that (in the US anyway) those who want to mitigate against climate change dare not argue that Americans will have to do with less.

This of course flies in the face of reality.

We have to consume less.

But if that is a politically impossible message, then what we’re left with is inevitable disastrous climate change.

Her kind of activism has completely surrendered to consumerism.

Wallach’s premise in this episode is that human society works by telling ourselves stories.

I guess I can’t argue with that.

But he misses, probably intentionally, the corollary: we also tell ourselves fantasies.

Wallach wants to believe that if we just change the narrative on what the future will be then our future is going to be dandy.

No dystopian stories for him.

And a part of the episode is explicitly showing clips from dystopian cinema masterpieces.

His belief is based on a fallacy: that the reason we are facing ecological crises is because we’ve told ourselves the wrong stories.

But it makes him feel better to believe that if he tells positive stories of the future then the future will be better.

In my view the only way to have a future that avoids great crises is through hard work and sacrifices.

And by sacrifices I do not mean killing people (as humans have done in the past) but buying, and expecting, less.

But I guess that is not popular enough to sell.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 9:04:06pm

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

He does have Monbiot on to mention that we don’t have infinite resources.

Wallach is afraid to come right out and say we need to buy less.

Instead it is implied through Monbiot’s bit.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 9:08:20pm

re: #141 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wallach also interviews a company local here in San Diego, who are making synthetic tuna muscle.

They grow the cells in a vat.

Personally I don’t go for such things, but I’m also not a big tuna fan.

I also doubt that the world is going to embrace lab-tuna.

It also reminds me of the movie Soylent Green, another dystopian classic that somehow Wallach left out of the episode.

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mmmirele Apr 17, 2024 • 9:15:47pm

Y’all are talking about guys with unfortunate names.

The girls vice principal at my high school in the mid-1970s was named Wana Hickey. Her husband, Ed, taught shop. At the time I was in high school, she was in her mid-50s. She died at the age of 92, after no doubt terrorizing a couple of generations of young women worrying about whether their skirts were too short or too long (why yes, granny dresses got banned at one point).

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Targetpractice Apr 17, 2024 • 9:18:51pm

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Wallach also interviews a company local here in San Diego, who are making synthetic tuna muscle.

They grow the cells in a vat.

Personally I don’t go for such things, but I’m also not a big tuna fan.

I also doubt that the world is going to embrace lab-tuna.

It also reminds me of the movie Soylent Green, another dystopian classic that somehow Wallach left out of the episode.

Sure they will, just find a lawyer-friendly term for it, like “mechanically-separated chicken” or “lean finely textured beef” (aka “pink slime”) and you’re good to go. Hell, call up Subway, I’m sure if you can sell it to them cheap enough they’ll buy lab-grown tuna by the tanker-full. Remember, we’re the nation that gave the world Spam and consume mountains of the hockey pucks that McDonald’s laughably calls “meat,” we’ll find some way to stomach lab-grown meat if it’s sold cheap.

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mmmirele Apr 17, 2024 • 9:20:50pm

re: #88 steve_davis

AI is just dumb as fuck. I’m sure it will likely get better, but it doesn’t seem to be “learning” anything that I can see. Essentially what I’m doing is helping a LLM sound like it knows what it’s talking about so that it can answer questions from people without hallucinating about stuff. That’s not intelligent. That’s just something that’s proficient at running a con.

AI doesn’t learn *jack*. It doesn’t THINK. It’s just allegedly better algorithms based on deep scraping of other people’s intellectual property.

I am fairly sure you cannot teach an AI when and how to start bearing down on a bunch of engineers to get them to fix an incident. Because, sometimes you gotta let them spend five or eight minutes talking out the alternative solutions that might not work before saying, “so how can we solve this problem?” I did this just today.

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 9:25:32pm

re: #144 mmmirele

Y’all are talking about guys with unfortunate names.

The girls vice principal at my high school in the mid-1970s was named Wana Hickey. Her husband, Ed, taught shop. At the time I was in high school, she was in her mid-1950s. She died at the age of 92, after no doubt terrorizing a couple of generations of young women worrying about whether their skirts were too short or too long (why yes, granny dresses got banned at one point).

The principal at my high school was Mr. Looney. The vice principal in charge of discipline was Mr. Buster.

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BeachDem Apr 17, 2024 • 9:26:11pm

re: #93 Belafon

What would be interesting would be to compare Larry Bird and Magic Johnson’s salary to theirs.

Well, In his career, Bill Russell made the All-Star Game twelve out of the thirteen years he played and he won 11 championships with the Boston Celtics, the most any professional athlete has ever won. Russell was also named MVP of the league five different times, he led the league in rebounds four different seasons and he was named an All-NBA performer eleven different times. In 1965, he made $100,001 ($1more than Wilt Chamberlain). Even translated to today’s $, that would only be just under a million.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 9:29:23pm

re: #145 Targetpractice

Sure they will, just find a lawyer-friendly term for it,…

Like … Charlie ???

Other options:
TunaBits;
SeaSnacks;
BlueFun;
MeatOfTheSea.

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:29:47pm

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

If factory grown meat becomes cheaper than farm grown, poorer people will buy it.

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Mattand Apr 17, 2024 • 9:30:18pm

re: #84 darthstar

Cyber truck is a cyber suck

Things to note:
- Rebooting the truck takes 5 hours
- The owners manual cautions against ever washing the truck in direct sunlight
- It must be put into Car Wash Mode before washing
- Car washes can void the warranty

- Do not taunt Tesla Cybertruck

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:31:29pm

re: #146 mmmirele

Amazon taught a program when to start harassing and firing its drivers.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Apr 17, 2024 • 9:31:32pm

re: #150 Belafon

I’d rather go Vegetarian.

Heck, I’m almost there now.

Most of the animal products I now consume comes from cow’s milk.

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:33:15pm

re: #148 BeachDem

Well, In his career, Bill Russell made the All-Star Game twelve out of the thirteen years he played and he won 11 championships with the Boston Celtics, the most any professional athlete has ever won. Russell was also named MVP of the league five different times, he led the league in rebounds four different seasons and he was named an All-NBA performer eleven different times. In 1965, he made $100,001 ($1more than Wilt Chamberlain). Even translated to today’s $, that would only be just under a million.

Only just under a million. As we said, Kaitlyn will start at $76,000. Now, I am too young to know when men’s basketball became big, so I’m not sure what era would be most comparable to women’s basketball now.

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:35:15pm

Has anyone else seen this before:

I found it at a bookstore in Norman, OK.

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goddamnedfrank Apr 17, 2024 • 9:41:18pm

bsky.app

Also, limiting the compare / contrast to the NBA vs WNBA misses one fairly large recent data point.

The final game, between South Carolina’s Gamecocks and the University of Iowa’s Hawkeyes, averaged about 18.7 million viewers and peaked at a whopping 24 million combined on ESPN and ABC, making it the first time in history that a women’s final has drawn a larger TV audience than the men’s, according to ESPN.

In contrast, the victory of the men’s Division 1 UConn Huskies over Purdue averaged 14.82 million on TBS and TNT.

But it’s not the only sports glass ceiling that was crushed; Sunday’s game was also the most-watched basketball game, either men’s or women’s and college or professional, since 2019.

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Targetpractice Apr 17, 2024 • 9:41:50pm

re: #153 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’d rather go Vegetarian.

Heck, I’m almost there now.

Most of the animal products I now consume comes from cow’s milk.

Ah, how could I have forgotten “Impossible Meats” and other purveyors of plant-based meat substitutes that rely heavily upon genetic engineering and other tricks to create faux burgers and other “meats” for vegetarians who want to scratch that particular itch.

The reality is that Soylent Green is slowly becoming reality, the reprocessing of “cheap” foods and even lab-grown proteins into ready-made meals is the future. So long as inflationary forces continue to outpace wage growth for much of the population, there will be a ready market for “cheap” foods whose relation to “real” meat is sketchy at best.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 17, 2024 • 9:53:57pm

What I find most disturbing about this twitter exchange is that Dan Crenshaw is being ratioed by thousands of Tucker fans who accuse him of supporting the globalists who support Ukraine rather than America. How are we going to survive when most of the GOP is either directly in the pocket of Putin or are isolationists who would have happily stayed out of Europe during WW2?

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:54:47pm

The two seasons of Ghost in the Shell are available on adult swim:
adultswim.com

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:56:58pm

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

Isolationists were around before WW2. The answer is we go through and around them.

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wrenchwench Apr 17, 2024 • 9:57:54pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Ah, how could I have forgotten “Impossible Meats” and other purveyors of plant-based meat substitutes that rely heavily upon genetic engineering and other tricks to create faux burgers and other “meats” for vegetarians who want to scratch that particular itch.

The reality is that Soylent Green is slowly becoming reality, the reprocessing of “cheap” foods and even lab-grown proteins into ready-made meals is the future. So long as inflationary forces continue to outpace wage growth for much of the population, there will be a ready market for “cheap” foods whose relation to “real” meat is sketchy at best.

Back in the 70s, I ate at a Seventh Day Adventist restaurant in Loma Linda, Ca. Everything was vegetarian, but most items had something masquerading as meat. It was the least food-like stuff I ever ate.

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Belafon Apr 17, 2024 • 9:58:08pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

We are also going to get better and better and making lab grown meat.

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BeachDem Apr 17, 2024 • 10:03:05pm

re: #154 Belafon

Only just under a million. As we said, Kaitlyn will start at $76,000. Now, I am too young to know when men’s basketball became big, so I’m not sure what era would be most comparable to women’s basketball now.

Russell made $24,000 his rookie year, which would be around $275,000 in today’s dollars. That was 1957—hard to really rate/compare the popularity.

But when you see what today’s NBA rookies are making this kind of money, Kaitlin is getting royally screwed.

First pick: Victor Wembanyama, $10,132,300. Second pick: Brandon Miller, $9,065,600. Third pick: Scoot Henderson, $8,141,200.Jun 23, 2023

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BeenHereAwhile Apr 17, 2024 • 10:04:40pm

re: #104 Dangerman

Whoever quoted from the book Wise Blood in the last few weeks, I just finished it.

It was….interesting.

Jesus died to redeem you,” she said.
“I never ast him,” he muttered.
-Flannery O’Connor, Wise Blood-

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Targetpractice Apr 17, 2024 • 10:37:43pm

re: #160 Belafon

Isolationists were around before WW2. The answer is we go through and around them.

Isolationism pretty much crumbled after Pearl Harbor, with the only argument offered by the hardcore adherents being about the priority of defeating the Japanese Empire versus the Third Reich. There were some that thought we could defeat Japan and reach a negotiated peace with Germany, but they weren’t the diehards pre-war who argued that America should stay within its cozy borders and let the rest of the world tear itself apart while we watched.

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darthstar Apr 17, 2024 • 10:40:55pm

Mastodon

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GlutenFreeJesus Apr 17, 2024 • 10:47:27pm

re: #165 Targetpractice

Republicans today would want to lock up any democrat administration if something like Pearl Harbor, or even 9/11 happened during their term.

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sagehen Apr 17, 2024 • 10:58:12pm

re: #133 Targetpractice

It’s not a workhorse, it’s a show horse. And just like a show horse, you’re not meant to actually do anything with it besides stow it in a covered shelter, pamper it to the maker’s exacting standards, and take it shows in a special trailer or on a dry and sunny day so that others may admire the otherwise useless hunk of scrap that you spent a king’s ransom to saddle yourself with.

Show horses work hard. They train 6 or 7 hours a day, seven days a week, for YEARS before they ever enter a show. Besides the physical work they do every day, there’s the massages, the special food, the grooming, the companion goats, the pampering is to keep them mentally strong and emotionally secure enough to truly believe they’re better than the other horses and deserve to win…

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teleskiguy Apr 17, 2024 • 11:02:57pm

Mastodon

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs Apr 17, 2024 • 11:35:56pm

Been awhile since I got a beagle.

🏌️🏻‍♀️🐶

Second night in a row I woke up at 1:00 am. Yay me.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 12:28:58am

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Targetpractice Apr 18, 2024 • 1:00:43am

We’re eventually going to learn that the Cybertruck was released as-is because building it to Elmo’s desires would bankrupt the company but canceling the project entirely would have bankrupted his ego. He’s John DeLorean, trying to convince the public that a half-assed final product is what he always intended to ship out and no he totally didn’t downgrade the specs just to save a few bucks.

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JC1 Apr 18, 2024 • 1:05:08am

re: #150 Belafon

If factory grown meat becomes cheaper than farm grown, poorer people will buy it.

Doesn’t even have to be cheaper, just close enough in price and taste. I stopped eating mammals for ethical reasons. I would have no problem with eating a lab grown steak or pulled pork.

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JC1 Apr 18, 2024 • 1:08:22am

re: #158 Hecuba’s daughter

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What I find most disturbing about this twitter exchange is that Dan Crenshaw is being ratioed by thousands of Tucker fans who accuse him of supporting the globalists who support Ukraine rather than America. How are we going to survive when most of the GOP is either directly in the pocket of Putin or are isolationists who would have happily stayed out of Europe during WW2?

Ratio probably driven by Russian bots. Twitter is not a reflection of reality.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 1:12:28am

Two German-Russian nationals have been arrested in Germany on suspicion of plotting sabotage attacks, including on U.S. military facilities, in an effort to undermine military support for Ukraine, prosecutors said on Thursday.
Authorities have searched the homes and workplaces of the two suspects, who are accused of working for a foreign secret service, the German prosecutor’s office said in a statement.

One of the suspects, identified as Dieter S., had since October 2023 discussed possible plots with a person linked to the Russian secret service, the statement said.

Germany has become one of Kyiv’s biggest suppliers of military aid since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022, and is a major target for Russian spying operations, authorities have said.

Dieter S. had been prepared to carry out bomb and arson attacks on military facilities, including those operated by U.S. forces, the statement said, adding that he took photos and videos of military transport and equipment.

According to Spiegel magazine, the facilities included the Grafenwoehr army base in the southern state of Bavaria where Ukrainian soldiers receive training to use U.S. Abrams tanks.

reuters.com

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William Lewis Apr 18, 2024 • 1:14:04am

re: #164 BeenHereAwhile

Jesus died to redeem you,” she said.
“I never ast him,” he muttered.
-Flannery O’Connor, Wise Blood-

Jesus died for somebody’s sins, but not mine
Meltin’ in a pot of thieves
Wild card up my sleeve
Thick heart of stone
My sins, my own
They belong to me, me
People say, “Beware!” But I don’t care
The words are just rules and regulations to me, me
I walk in a room, you know I look so proud
I’m movin’ in this here atmosphere
Well, a-a-anything’s allowed
Then I go to this, here party but oh, I just get bored
Until I look out the window, see a sweet young thing
Humpin’ on the parking meter, leanin’ on the parking meter, oh
She looks so good, oh, she looks so fine
And I got this crazy feeling, and then
I’m gonna ah-ah make her mine
Ooh, I’ll put my spell on her
Here she comes, walkin’ down the street
Here she comes, comin’ through the door
Here she comes crawlin’ up the stair
Here she comes in a pretty red dress, in a pretty red dress
And oh, she looks so good, oh, she looks so fine
And I got this crazy feeling that I’m gonna ah-ah make her mine
I hear this knockin’ on my door, knockin’ on my door
And I look up into the big tower clock
And say, “Oh my God, it’s midnight!”
And my baby is walkin’ through the door
Layin’ on my couch, she whispers to me and I take the big plunge
And oh, she was so good, ooh, oh, she was so fine
And I’m gonna tell the world that I just ah-ah made her mine
I said darling, tell me your name, she told me her name
She whispered to me, she told me her name
She told me her name, she told me her name
She told me her name, she told me her name
And her name is, and her name is, and her name is
And her name is
G-L-O-R-I-A
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria, oh Gloria
It was at the stadium
Oh, twenty thousand girls called their names out to me
Marie Ruth, but to tell you the truth
I didn’t hear them, I didn’t see
I let my eyes rise to the big tower clock
And I heard those bells chimin’ in my heart
Going ding-dong ding-dong ding-dong ding-dong
Ding-dong ding-dong ding-dong ding-dong
Calling the time, when you came to my room
And you whispered to me and I took the big plunge
And oh, you were so good, oh, you were so fine
And I’ve got to tell the world that I made ya mine, made ya mine
Made ya mine, made ya mine, made ya mine, made ya mine
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R I-A Gloria
G-L-O-R-I-A Gloria
When the tower bells chime
Ding-dong they chime
I said that Jesus died
For somebody’s sins
But not mine
London!
G-L-O-R-I-A
Gloria

Patti Smith Gloria

That was the schizzle that changed my world…

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 2:48:39am

re: #143 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

“I also doubt that the world is going to embrace lab-tuna.“

I can see environmentalists and animal activists being the first people to embrace lab-tuna and then when celebrities embrace it, a lot of other people will as well. I’d try it and if it tastes good, I’m in. I eat veggie burgers pretty much once a week.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 2:48:54am

This year’s Fourth of July picnic for the Kennedys is gonna be…..awkward.

The Kennedy family is set to endorse President Biden in his reelection campaign on Thursday during an event in Philadelphia, a strong rebuke of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s independent White House bid.

The Biden campaign is expecting 15 members of the Kennedy clan to attend Thursday’s event alongside the president. Kerry Kennedy, the younger sister of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., will deliver remarks outlining her family’s support for Biden.

“President Biden has been a champion for all the rights and freedoms that my father and uncles stood for,” Kerry Kennedy will say, according to excerpts provided by the Biden campaign.

“I can only imagine how Donald Trump’s outrageous lies and behavior would have horrified my father, Robert F. Kennedy, who proudly served as Attorney General of the United States, and honored his pledge to uphold the law and protect the country,” Kerry Kennedy will say, directly invoking her father. “Daddy stood for equal justice, human rights, and freedom from want and fear. Just as President Biden does today.”

After the endorsement, Biden and the Kennedys in attendance will join local volunteers at a grassroots organizing event, where they will participate in voter outreach that includes phone calls and door knocking.

thehill.com

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sagehen Apr 18, 2024 • 3:00:03am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

This year’s Fourth of July picnic for the Kennedys is gonna be…..awkward.

thehill.com

Maria Shriver’s endorsement of Obama made a HUGE diference in the 2008 California primary. Before that, he was neck-and-neck with Hillary.

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William Lewis Apr 18, 2024 • 3:09:37am

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

“I also doubt that the world is going to embrace lab-tuna.“

I can see environmentalists and animal activists being the first people to embrace lab-tuna and then when celebrities embrace it, a lot of other people will as well. I’d try it and if it tastes good, I’m in. I eat veggie burgers pretty much once a week.

For me, it’s cost. I still eat real chicken and beef because I can’t afford Impossible burgers or Walnut burgers (yummy). If you can get Vat-Tuna that tastes the same when maguro but costs the same, I’ll be the first in line.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 3:29:12am

re: #180 William Lewis

Reactor grown meats and fishes are in their infancy. It’s a brilliant method to use fewer resources to grow animal flesh for consumption. The big issue is see is if they can create growth structures to make the other organoleptic characteristics match “real” animal flesh. Right now,, the technology is making flesh-mush, the end-goal is to create more useful whole cuts.

I’m having more fun with this watching how various states are trying to ban this technology (at least sales of it) and other aspects of things that are federally regulated. If states start banning certain food because feelings, and it is upheld in the courts, there’s is going to be a food price increases and shortage; large companies are not going to taikor make different formulations for different states. And this startups are rare except for bespoke, high-profile niche items.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 3:30:27am

Well, that was a shock to say the least. Thought I’d just eat some letters.
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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 3:32:05am

There were two directions I could’ve gone with this. Obviously, I like the one I picked.

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 3:47:13am

I submit to you some drive time music on this very fine Animal Cracker Day! Celebrate in your own special way!

Iron & Wine w. Fiona Apple – All in Good Time (Umbrellas of Cherbourg)

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 3:57:06am

re: #184 Shropshire Slasher

I remember my cousin throwing a tantrum when her mother gave her animal crackers because “I’m not an animal!”
😂 😂
I guess there’s a day for every dang thing.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 4:04:04am

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 4:04:53am

Heroes walk among us.

A Taco Bell manager in Bucks County is being hailed as a hero after she sprang into action to save a baby’s life.

It happened on Saturday at the Taco Bell drive-thru in Richboro, Pennsylvania.

Natasha Long said she had just come from picking up a prescription at a local pharmacy with her 11-week-old son, Myles, when she decided to stop at Taco Bell to get some food.

When she pulled into the drive-thru, Long said she heard baby Myles struggling to breathe, so she immediately got out of the vehicle to check on him.

“I ran out of the car and ran around and opened the car door,” said Long. “I pulled him out and he turned completely blue and was lifeless. At that point I just completely blacked out. I didn’t know what to do.”

Long says she started to scream in a panic. Her cries for help were heard by Taco Bell Manager Becky Arbaugh, who dropped everything she was doing to help once she realized how dire the situation was.

“I threw my headset. I ran outside,” explained Arbaugh. “I took the baby and I started to do chest compressions on the baby and then he finally started to breathe.”

6abc.com

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 4:24:28am

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 4:27:02am

Oopsy. Probably toxic Cuomo.

State officials are investigating a major cyberattack on the government agency charged with drafting state budget bills.

The investigation comes as the Legislature and governor are finalizing the details of the $237 billion state budget.

“It was unexpected. The 4:30 a.m. call said the commission that’s responsible for legislative bill drafting was under attack,” Gov. Kathy Hochul said in an interview with NY1.

Hackers attacked the Legislative Bill Drafting Commission — the primary system used to print the final version of Hochul’s state budget.

“It’s under an active investigation. So we’ll be disclosing as much as we can when we’re able to, but this is very active. There were impacts, but we’re still very much functioning,” Hochul said. “This is, right now, confined to the legislative bill drafting commission. It’s actually run by appointees from the Speaker and the Majority Leader. And it’s an independent commission, to my knowledge, that is the extent of the attack.

Lawmakers shared their initial reactions.

“Well, the timing is very suspicious. No question. Although, there’s no evidence yet to link it any way to the budget or the closing down of the budget,” Democratic State Assemblyman David Weprin said.

“I couldn’t help but chuckle to myself, wondering, ‘everyone’s hating the budget?’ Because it’s that type of year. The more it gets delayed, the more everybody gets unhappy,” Democratic State Assemblywoman Pat Fahy said.

Although the incident appears contained, Hochul did not confirm whether the hit qualifies as a ransomware attack — a situation where hackers hold private data hostage, and often request large sums of money for their return.

“If this is a ransomware attack and the attackers have communicated with them saying ‘pay us,’ then the question becomes: do you pay them? If you do, you get the data back instantly but it may not come without embedded malware,” Michael Balboni, who served as the State Power Authority’s chair of the Cyber and Physical Security Committee, said.

New York ranks third nationwide for the most ransomware attacks, according to a state comptroller’s report released last year. Attacks on critical infrastructure nearly doubled within the first six months of 2023.

ny1.com

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 4:43:11am

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 4:46:30am

The stuff of nightmares right here. Watch the video.

Boston Dynamics unveiled Wednesday a new version of its humanoid robot, “Atlas,” that the company says is “designed for real-world applications.”

Like many of its previous announcements, the company released a video of its robot in action.
The company is moving full steam (or spark) ahead with its new fully electric iteration of Atlas, and retiring its previously hydraulic-powered model.

At the core of the transition is Boston Dynamics’ partnership with Hyundai — which the company credits for aiding in, “building the next generation of automotive manufacturing capabilities,” according to Boston Dynamics’s blog post.

“In the months and years ahead, we’re excited to show what the world’s most dynamic humanoid robot can really do — in the lab, in the factory, and in our lives,” read the company’s blog.

However, beyond the nuts and bolts of the robot’s new design, the release left many on social media sputtering with skepticism. Some users on X likened the launch of Atlas to something out of James Cameron’s iconic post-apocalyptic “Terminator” franchise.

“It’s giving ‘call an ambulance … but not for me,’” joked tech YouTuber Marques Brownlee.

nbcnews.com

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 4:47:37am

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Sherlock Hound Apr 18, 2024 • 4:48:59am

re: #191 Shropshire Slasher

Boston Dynamics will be the future creator of ED-209.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 4:49:48am

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

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Sherlock Hound Apr 18, 2024 • 4:50:43am

It hasn’t hit the news, but there has been an arrest in the Satanic Temple attempted bombing last week.

salemma.gov

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 4:53:52am

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

There’s nothing like adding violations to a gag order while awaiting a hearing for violating a gag order. I hope Jesse Watters’ post lands him in a no-social media zone.

Also..

Mastodon

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 4:54:54am

re: #192 Patricia Kayden

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watch his defense:

“I didnt say it. i pointed out that someone else said it.”

plus even “I was helping you”

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 4:55:52am

re: #196 darthstar

There’s nothing like adding violations to a gag order while awaiting a hearing for violating a gag order. I hope Jesse Watters’ post lands him in a no-social media zone.

Also..

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here’s hoping that closes in on the unfortunate mike dukakis pic

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 4:59:37am

re: #197 Dangerman

watch his defense:

“I didnt say it. i pointed out that someone else said it.”

plus even “I was helping you”

That was addressed last night by one of the legal analysts…won’t fly with Merchan.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:15:36am

editorial decisions:
- what is reported
- when it’s reported
- how it’s reported
are all important

so is
- choosing to not report it at all

Fox Continues to Pretend Trump Is Not on Trial

As you can see, none of the top 19 stories even mention the fact that Trump is on trial.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:16:42am

re: #199 darthstar

That was addressed last night by one of the legal analysts…won’t fly with Merchan.

the “i was getting you a cookie” defense wont work?

i am aghast

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 5:18:57am

File this under ‘nobody could have predicted…’

Mastodon

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 5:20:11am

re: #201 Dangerman

the “i was getting you a cookie” defense wont work?

i am aghast

“Many people are saying the jury selection is corrupt!” - that kind of cookie leaves a bad taste in the judge’s mouth.

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 5:22:08am

re: #182 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Well, that was a shock to say the least. Thought I’d just eat some letters.
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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 5:22:21am

Indonesian authorities issued a tsunami alert Wednesday after eruptions at Ruang mountain sent ash thousands of feet high. Officials ordered more than 11,000 people to leave the area.
The volcano on the northern side of Sulawesi island had at least five large eruptions in the past 24 hours, Indonesia’s Center for Volcanology and Geological Disaster Mitigation said. Authorities raised their volcano alert to its highest level.

Indonesia’s Mount Ruang continues to erupt, spewing smoke and lava | DW News
time.com

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 5:26:08am

Greets and saluts from the damp NYC metro area, as Trump heads back to court to get his zzz’s while jury selection continues. Make no mistake, this trial is going forward, and opening statements are likely to as early as Monday (with 2 day break for Passover), or Thursday. This is happening, and Trump’s insane claims and statements before and after being in the courtroom show that he knows he’s fooked, and all he has is railing against the process, which has bent over backwards to be accommodating to this corrupt, criminal, and repeat offender of various gag orders designed to protect those working in the courthouse, court officers, witnesses, and the judge. If this was anyone else, including mob bosses, they’d be hauled into Rikers to await trial because of violating those gag orders would have actual consequences.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:29:52am

A new Harvard Institute of Politics poll of voters under age 30 finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump 56% to 37% among likely voters.

Biden’s lead is 6 points among young men and 33 points among young women.

can we just let women run everything, please?

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 5:34:42am

re: #207 Dangerman

Biden’s lead is 6 points among young men and 33 points among young women.

can we just let women run everything, please?

So despite all the doom and glooming over the Palestine protest vote, the kids really are alright. Whoda thunk.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 5:40:36am

re: #202 darthstar

Fake it til you make it.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 5:43:22am

re: #207 Dangerman

Except for the Black radio stations I listen to, I’m not seeing any political ads. But it’s refreshing to hear that President Biden is successfully using targeted media ads to get his message out to young people. 👍🏿

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Belafon Apr 18, 2024 • 5:44:22am

I do agree with this ruling: the Supreme Court sided with a guy who was suing Texas because work the state did on a road increased flooding on his property.

khou.com

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:48:14am

re: #210 Patricia Kayden

Except for the Black radio stations I listen to, I’m not seeing any political ads. But it’s refreshing to hear that President Biden is successfully using targeted media ads to get his message out to young people. 👍🏿

its still way early

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DodgerFan1988 Apr 18, 2024 • 5:50:02am

This is seriously a new level of being a douchebag.

- You directly undermine Ukraine’s defense effort by turning Starlinks off for the Ukrainian military right in the middle of important operations and letting the Russian military use it despite U.S. sanctions
- You spread the… pic.twitter.com/6iUAl8FzaD

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) April 18, 2024

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:55:13am

re: #211 Belafon

I do agree with this ruling: the Supreme Court sided with a guy who was suing Texas because work the state did on a road increased flooding on his property.

khou.com

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s Office also issued a press release about this ruling. They are calling it a win for them as well.

The plaintiff’s attorneys were surprised by that release.

“The Texas AG sent a release saying he won this case, but what Texas wanted was to not be sued under the 5th Amendment,” said McNamara. “What the Court said is that Texas can be sued under the Fifth Amendment. That means we won because we got what we wanted and Texas lost because they’re the ones getting sued.”

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 5:58:14am

…. bills in mostly red states that aim to restrict which books libraries can offer and threaten librarians with prison or thousands in fines for handing out ‘obscene’ or ‘harmful’ titles. At least 27 states are considering 100 such bills this year.”

they cant get what they want so they threaten innocents who cant risk fighting back

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 6:04:49am

re: #215 Dangerman

they cant get what they want so they threaten innocents who cant risk fighting back

Doing it this way saves on the price of matches to burn the books.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 6:17:17am

Free markets!!
(Until it hurts meeeeee)

Trump Media is telling its shareholders how to prevent their stock from being loaned to short sellers — who bet the price of the shares will drop,” CNBC reports.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 6:17:36am

re: #215 Dangerman

These fascist bills need to be challenged in court. If SCOTUS upholds them, blue states should ban the Bible as chock full of genocide, slavery, xenophobia, homophobia, and misogyny.

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Patricia Kayden Apr 18, 2024 • 6:19:28am

re: #213 DodgerFan1988

Imagine hoping that Ukraine loses its pushback if Russia’s invasion and war crimes? I’m sorry but I can never understand conservatives. It’s as if we’re living in two completely separate worlds.

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 6:21:50am

re: #217 Dangerman

Premarket: DJT is down fractionally (another 2.2%), signaling yet another plunge…

Poor fucking Trump. No really. I want him poor.

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 6:26:48am

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 6:27:58am

re: #218 Patricia Kayden

These fascist bills need to be challenged in court. If SCOTUS upholds them, blue states should ban the Bible as chock full of genocide, slavery, xenophobia, homophobia, and misogyny.

And massive seminal emissions

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 6:37:21am

re: #220 lawhawk

Premarket: DJT is down fractionally (another 2.2%), signaling yet another plunge…

Poor fucking Trump. No really. I want him poor.

5 minutes in, down 7.5%

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 6:39:19am

Wisconsin official blames homelessness on “sin,” then votes against aid for the poor

Jeff Weigand, a conservative Christian, said before his vote that sin was the “root cause” of homelessness

And what does this “born again Xtian” do? You guessed it folks! Just like the real god he worships, Ayn Rand, he flips the bird to the needy.

On April 4, the Dane County Board in Wisconsin (which includes the city of Madison) proposed giving a $231,005 grant to Porchlight, a non-profit organization that helps the homeless by providing them with shelters, food, access to telehealth, and more. Seemed like a no-brainer. In fact, only one board member, Jeff Weigand, stood up to oppose the proposal.

He explained that his problem was that Porchlight wasn’t addressing the root cause of homelessness, therefore this grant was just putting a short-term bandage on the wound.

“For every dollar that we invest in providing someone a temporary place to sleep,” he said, “we should be investing an equal amount, or putting an equal amount of energy, towards finding solutions towards the root cause.”

There was a follow-up from fellow supervisor Anthony Gray: What do you think is the root cause of homelessness?

Weigand, clearly expecting this question, responded with a smile: “Sin.”

When non-profit news outlet Madison365 asked Weigand to explain his callous thinking, he told them his own church (which he refused to name) helps the poor and addresses sin.

He also casually pointed out that the help is not unconditional. Anyone who wanted food, clothing, or housing assistance had to learn about Jesus first.

friendlyatheist.com

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 6:39:32am

The memory remains.
Metallica frontman James Hetfield has revealed a new tattoo in memory of late rocker Lemmy — using some of the Motörhead star’s ashes.

Hetfield, 60, showed off the tattoo — featuring Motörhead famous “Ace of Spades” logo — made with “black ink mixed with a pinch of his cremation ashes that were so graciously given to me.”

Fittingly, it was on the middle finger of his right hand, making it visible while pulling his idol’s favored pose of flipping the bird.

“So now, he is still able to fly the bird at the world,” wrote the Metallica star of his “salute to my friend and inspiration Mr. Lemmy Kilmister.”

nypost.com

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 6:39:50am

re: #223 Dangerman

5 minutes in, down 7.5%

oops, i lied

8%…

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 6:45:34am

Putin is expanding his war.

Mastodon

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jeffreyw Apr 18, 2024 • 6:49:03am

Good morning!

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 6:52:15am

NBC News:

Trump is using his phone in the courtroom, openly flouting the rules of the courtroom. Blanche just told him to stop and Trump tucked the phone in his pocket while looking annoyed.

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 6:52:52am

Mastodon

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A Cranky One Apr 18, 2024 • 6:54:07am

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 6:56:42am

re: #228 jeffreyw

Cheetah: I was not going fast.
Officer: You were clocked at 65 mph in a 30 mph zone.
Cheetah: But it is the first time I have been out all year.
Officer: You were still going 65 mph in a 30 mph zone.
Cheetah: Okay. You can give me the citation if you can catch me. Cheetah runs off. Officer gets into car and tries to catch Cheetah.

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gocart mozart Apr 18, 2024 • 7:00:37am

Just submitted an amendment to Bill drafting appointing MTG as Putin’s Special Envoy to the United States Congress. https://t.co/Gn8Dd3lZwj

— Jared Moskowitz (@JaredEMoskowitz) April 18, 2024

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines Apr 18, 2024 • 7:00:43am

Gospel concert was going well till angel’s entrance…

Iframe

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 7:01:29am

re: #228 jeffreyw

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speeding?

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 7:01:42am

@emily.gorcen.ski

WaPo showing up to court in a hot dog costume

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 7:02:27am

re: #232 PhillyPretzel ✅

Cheetah: I was not going fast.
Officer: You were clocked at 65 mph in a 30 mph zone.
Cheetah: But it is the first time I have been out all year.
Officer: You were still going 65 mph in a 30 mph zone.
Cheetah: Okay. You can give me the citation if you can catch me. Cheetah runs off. Officer gets into car and tries to catch Cheetah.

damn!

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A Cranky One Apr 18, 2024 • 7:03:50am

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 7:12:17am

@thetattooedprof.bsky.social

Any journalist publishing identifying information about the jurors is committing a serious ethical breach, and compromising the trial itself. And no, you can’t fall back on, “well this info is available in the juror packets” or whatever other weak sauce you’ve used to rationalize it so far.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 7:16:57am

Sounds like maybe two jurors are being excused - #4 may have been arrested for tearing down political signs in the past.

As for the seven additional violations of the gag order in the last two days, Trump’s lawyers say they were ‘political speech’ - I’m not sure how posting an attack on a witness (albeit on a campaign website) skirts that issue…nor do I see how spreading conspiracy theories about jury integrity does either. But IANAL.

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Decatur Deb Apr 18, 2024 • 7:17:33am

re: #239 jaunte

@thetattooedprof.bsky.social

“A serious ethical breach” isn’t likely to worry these people. This isn’t going to work until someone, perhaps several someones, eat jail food.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 7:19:42am

re: #240 darthstar

It’s just their go-to. This is merely my opinion on the matter, so I apologize for any offense, but I believe they are continuing to make the argument that the very existence of this trial is illegal political persecution (“ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!”), in an attempt to convince some friendly judge somewhere to make the whole thing go away, because we can’t prosecute presidential candidates in an election year (except LOCK HER UP HILLARY).

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Decatur Deb Apr 18, 2024 • 7:24:36am

re: #242 Nerdy Fish

It’s past time to invoke the FAFO rule.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 7:26:02am

Mastodon

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 7:27:07am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

It’s past time to invoke the FAFO rule.

“Bailiff! Whack his pee-pee!”
“I can’t find it, your honor.”

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 7:27:31am

re: #240 darthstar

Sounds like maybe two jurors are being excused - #4 may have been arrested for tearing down political signs in the past.

As for the seven additional violations of the gag order in the last two days, Trump’s lawyers say they were ‘political speech’ - I’m not sure how posting an attack on a witness (albeit on a campaign website) skirts that issue…nor do I see how spreading conspiracy theories about jury integrity does either. But IANAL.

Prosecutors are the ones who did the research and came up with a possible match with various criminal acts by someone with the same name, including tearing down political signs, and a possible deferred prosecution deal, as well as a possible corruption case. Defense agreed that this person might not be a good juror.

There’s already a hearing scheduled to deal with Trump’s incessant violations of the gag order, and he should get slapped with sanctions. He is not above the law, and the judge should hold him to the same standard as every other defendant in the NYS criminal justice system who violates gag orders - plural. He keeps violating them, and should end up in jail for his misconduct.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 7:28:26am

re: #243 Decatur Deb

It’s past time to invoke the FAFO rule.

I’m coming around to the belief that this is never going to happen. (Again, qualified with, this is all my opinion, and I apologize for any offense.) As much as we’re enjoying the schadenfreude of him being tied up in court for weeks on end undergoing this criminal trial, ain’t nothin’ gon’ happen. No one in our justice system actually has the gravitas to enforce any kind of punishment. He’ll die soon, at home, fat and pampered, and the mess he left behind will fall on I’m Eric and Cokehead McGee. The only question that really remains is if we have what it takes to keep him out of the White House, so at least he can’t literally wave his hand and make his legal troubles disappear.

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mmmirele Apr 18, 2024 • 7:29:26am

re: #217 Dangerman

Free markets!!
(Until it hurts meeeeee)

Someone(s) is/are pumping that stock. Just looked at it now.

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jeffreyw Apr 18, 2024 • 7:30:05am

re: #235 Dangerman

speeding?

Following that impala too closely.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 7:31:03am

re: #249 jeffreyw

I prefer my explanation.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 7:31:18am

re: #246 lawhawk

Prosecutors are the ones who did the research and came up with a possible match with various criminal acts by someone with the same name, including tearing down political signs, and a possible deferred prosecution deal, as well as a possible corruption case. Defense agreed that this person might not be a good juror.

There’s already a hearing scheduled to deal with Trump’s incessant violations of the gag order, and he should get slapped with sanctions. He is not above the law, and the judge should hold him to the same standard as every other defendant in the NYS criminal justice system who violates gag orders - plural. He keeps violating them, and should end up in jail for his misconduct.

Fines won’t do it, so jail is the only option. Unfortunately, he’d probably have wingnut guards who’d treat him like a king until they really got to know him. My brother became a wingnut while working as a guard. There’s more to it than that, but that was part of it.

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mmmirele Apr 18, 2024 • 7:31:53am

re: #224 Joe Bacon ✅

Wisconsin official blames homelessness on “sin,” then votes against aid for the poor

Jeff Weigand, a conservative Christian, said before his vote that sin was the “root cause” of homelessness

He also casually pointed out that the help is not unconditional. Anyone who wanted food, clothing, or housing assistance had to learn about Jesus first.

friendlyatheist.com

*FUCK* that guy. Jesus told his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Mt. 25:31-46) and at no point did he say to predicate that help on listening to a sermon first. *FUCK* that guy.

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Decatur Deb Apr 18, 2024 • 7:32:38am

re: #247 Nerdy Fish

Most of the actual virtue in the trial accrued just by getting him into court. A bit more will result from publication of the prosecution’s case. After November I don’t care whether he dies in jail or chokes on a cheeseburger on some tropical island.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 7:32:50am

re: #246 lawhawk

He has his phone on him in court. Blanche had to ask him to put it away and he scowled (via Laffy via someone else).

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 7:33:40am

re: #252 mmmirele

*FUCK* that guy. Jesus told his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Mt. 25:31-46) and at no point did he say to predicate that help on listening to a sermon first. *FUCK* that guy.

He’s “Conservative.” There’s no Jesus in his Christianity.

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Joe Bacon ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 7:36:09am

re: #234 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Gospel concert was going well till angel’s entrance…

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There’s just something so appropriate that “angel” landed on a guy and stuck his jockstrap in the guy’s face…

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 7:36:25am

re: #253 Decatur Deb

Most of the actual virtue in the trial accrued just by getting him into court. A bit more will result from publication of the prosecution’s case. After November I don’t care whether he dies in jail or chokes on a cheeseburger on some tropical island.

I guess I’m just sick and tired of the rich and powerful getting to play by different rules. Call me an idealist or whatever, but I really hope that someday - maybe in my grandkids’ world, if I am so blessed as to have them - we can dispense with this nonsense and treat all (alleged or actual) criminals with respect, dignity, but also sternness and strict adherence to the rules.

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Jay C Apr 18, 2024 • 7:38:30am

re: #252 mmmirele

*FUCK* that guy. Jesus told his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Mt. 25:31-46) and at no point did he say to predicate that help on listening to a sermon first. *FUCK* that guy.

SRSLY: if this asshole’s church wants to make listening to sermons a condition of giving help to the homeless or hungry, well, that’s their perogative: “free exercise of religion”, and all. But Dane County, WI isn’t a religious organization: they have no business foisting sectarian proselytizing on the public.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 7:42:25am

re: #257 Nerdy Fish

I guess I’m just sick and tired of the rich and powerful getting to play by different rules. Call me an idealist or whatever, but I really hope that someday - maybe in my grandkids’ world, if I am so blessed as to have them - we can dispense with this nonsense and treat all (alleged or actual) criminals with respect, dignity, but also sternness and strict adherence to the rules.

If our right-wing assholes drank bleach and stuck UV lights up their asses, we could have that, but they did not follow their leader’s advice, so we’re stuck with an abusive “justice” system.

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 7:46:24am

re: #252 mmmirele

*FUCK* that guy. Jesus told his followers to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned (Mt. 25:31-46) and at no point did he say to predicate that help on listening to a sermon first. *FUCK* that guy.

So those people are Sodomites

Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version
“‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 7:48:16am

re: #259 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

If our right-wing assholes drank bleach and stuck UV lights up their asses, we could have that, but they did not follow their leader’s advice, so we’re stuck with an abusive “justice” system.

I’m not at all convinced there are that many people on the left who want that, to be honest. Again, I’m not trying to offend anyone with my opinions, but it seems like the whole culture of “criminals deserve to be abused/raped/shanked” is so pervasive across all of American culture. It’s like we’ve grown up with generations of people who have made jokes about the awful conditions in our prisons, such that people all along the political spectrum have become desensitized to the consequences of unfair prosecutions. And yes, all this only marginally relates to the problem of the rich and powerful not having to endure these things, but it does relate. Rather than bringing them down to that level, I’d rather the poor Black men suffering in prison under unjust laws or prejudiced cops receive better treatment from the justice system. That’s why I don’t think there’s many on the left who share my ultimate vision.

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 7:53:46am

In the first bunch of prospective jurors this morning, 57 of the group of 96 prospective jurors have self-identified as being unable to sit on Trump’s jury because they cannot be fair and impartial. They have been excused.

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Shropshire Slasher Apr 18, 2024 • 7:55:59am

Gotye & Kimbra - Somebody That I Used To Know (Live You Oughta Know)

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 7:56:46am

re: #262 lawhawk

In the first bunch of prospective jurors this morning, 57 of the group of 96 prospective jurors have self-identified as being unable to sit on Trump’s jury because they cannot be fair and impartial. They have been excused.

Anyone who consumes news knows that he’s been committing crimes for his entire life.
Jurors have to have been living in a cave to miss knowing what Trump is.

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 8:03:56am

re: #264 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

There’s plenty of those folks around. Not everyone is as connected as those who inhabit LGF, or social media like xT.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Apr 18, 2024 • 8:16:17am

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 8:16:51am

re: #170 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Been awhile since I got a beagle.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 18, 2024 • 8:20:20am

I was worried from the beginning that finding a proper jury for Trump was going to be difficult.

Now, with the media damn near doxxing jurors with Trump egging them on, it may be near impossible.

Be interesting to see how dragged out this selection process gets.

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 8:21:17am

re: #173 JC1

Doesn’t even have to be cheaper, just close enough in price and taste. I stopped eating mammals for ethical reasons. I would have no problem with eating a lab grown steak or pulled pork.

I haven’t eaten mammal for 30 years. And have no interest in foods that taste like meat.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 8:22:51am

re: #267 Hecuba’s daughter

5 and blue, yellow, purple, green.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 8:24:29am

Mastodon

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 8:24:52am

re: #174 JC1

Ratio probably driven by Russian bots. Twitter is not a reflection of reality.

Yet most House Republicans support Putin — and Vance, Paul, and Hawley are not driven by bots. Twitter is definitely a home for Trump supporters.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 8:26:31am

Mastodon

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 8:29:57am

re: #177 Patricia Kayden

“I also doubt that the world is going to embrace lab-tuna.“

I can see environmentalists and animal activists being the first people to embrace lab-tuna and then when celebrities embrace it, a lot of other people will as well. I’d try it and if it tastes good, I’m in. I eat veggie burgers pretty much once a week.

My preference is Portobello sandwiches.

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wrenchwench Apr 18, 2024 • 8:30:35am

re: #266 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 8:30:39am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

I was worried from the beginning that finding a proper jury for Trump was going to be difficult.

Now, with the media damn near doxxing jurors with Trump egging them on, it may be near impossible.

Be interesting to see how dragged out this selection process gets.

This comes up periodically in cases of a sensational nature - going back to OJ Simpson (both times he went on trial for criminal acts - the double homicide and later armed robbery charges in Nevada). Serial killers. Mass shooters. White collar criminals like Bernie Madoff. They all get lots of press and much is made of the problem of finding a jury that can be impartial.

Yet every time we manage to get a jury that is impartial. We’ll get one here as well. It make take longer than some to get a jury seated (though it still looks like that’ll happen this week). But it will happen.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 18, 2024 • 8:33:32am

re: #276 lawhawk

On that note: Would you consider Trump more or less polarizing than O.J. Simpson?

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 8:33:42am

Mastodon

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Apr 18, 2024 • 8:37:33am

Flowers from the Australs.

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lawhawk Apr 18, 2024 • 8:38:57am

re: #277 Eclectic Cyborg

On that note: Would you consider Trump more or less polarizing than O.J. Simpson?

More. Vastly more. And far more likely to get people to act on his words/intent.

It still wont stop a jury from being seated though. The courts will get a jury seated. They have accounted for quite a bit of this, including bringing in far more to be in the prospective jury pool, and even having a larger than average number of alternate jurors who will be seated in case the regular jurors get dismissed.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 8:40:50am

re: #279 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Those are very pretty.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 8:46:43am

Mastodon

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JC1 Apr 18, 2024 • 8:47:15am

re: #264 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

Anyone who consumes news knows that he’s been committing crimes for his entire life.
Jurors have to have been living in a cave to miss knowing what Trump is.

I know what Trump is. I feel that I could compartmentalize that and still be impartial. I can play lawful neutral even though I’m not in real life.

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JC1 Apr 18, 2024 • 8:48:51am

re: #272 Hecuba’s daughter

Yet most House Republicans support Putin — and Vance, Paul, and Hawley are not driven by bots. Twitter is definitely a home for Trump supporters.

Most house Republicans don’t support Putin. That number is probably in the 2 dozen range. They’re just some of the most vocal performance artists.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 8:49:52am

re: #282 Backwoods Sleuth

Wow. Those Romans knew how to build a solid bridge.

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wrenchwench Apr 18, 2024 • 8:50:17am

re: #282 Backwoods Sleuth

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My mind goes straight to Monty Python. ‘What have the Romans ever done for us?’ Well, there’s this bridge…

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William Lewis Apr 18, 2024 • 8:57:06am

I tweaked my range toy again…

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BeachDem Apr 18, 2024 • 8:57:15am

re: #276 lawhawk

This comes up periodically in cases of a sensational nature - going back to OJ Simpson (both times he went on trial for criminal acts - the double homicide and later armed robbery charges in Nevada). Serial killers. Mass shooters. White collar criminals like Bernie Madoff. They all get lots of press and much is made of the problem of finding a jury that can be impartial.

Yet every time we manage to get a jury that is impartial. We’ll get one here as well. It make take longer than some to get a jury seated (though it still looks like that’ll happen this week). But it will happen.

And more recently, the Murdaugh trial:

… started from a much wider pool of people on Jan. 23. A total of 900 people were called as potential jurors in the case and by Jan. 24 it had been whittled down to around 150, with further eliminations taking place one-on-one in judge’s chambers. The jury selection process revealed just how connected the Murdaugh family and its law firm were around the Lowcountry of South Carolina, and how highly publicized this case has become, with a many potential jurors being excused for a potential conflict of interest.

A jury of 12, and six alternates, were selected on Jan. 25 and sworn in for the Murdaugh trial.

greenvilleonline.com

So, two days to seat the jury (and 2+ hours to find him guilty)

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Eventual Carrion Apr 18, 2024 • 9:15:39am

re: #274 Hecuba’s daughter

My preference is Portobello sandwiches.

The other day a friend and I were talking about food. She has been staying away from meat for almost a year now. She has lost quite a bit of weight and is feeling good. She mentioned mushroom sandwiches. I have never tried it that way, tho’ I put mushrooms on/in a lot of things.

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wrenchwench Apr 18, 2024 • 9:18:26am

Schrader’s latest can of food is chicken and tuna. I told him he’s getting chicken of the sea and yard fish.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 9:18:54am

snerk

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 9:26:43am

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 9:28:52am

Complaint Asks the FBI to Probe Trump Claims on a $50 Million Loan
A watchdog group is asking the Justice Department to investigate whether Donald Trump repeatedly lied in sworn statements to the federal government—including his own administration—about a $50 million loan that apparently never existed in the first place, and which could be evidence of tax evasion.

The criminal complaint, filed on Thursday by watchdog Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and first obtained by The Daily Beast, asks the FBI and the Justice Department’s Public Integrity Unit to probe whether Trump “knowingly and willfully” lied about the mystery loan on his personal financial disclosures.

Trump has filed nine of those annual statements with the Federal Election Commission and the Office of Government Ethics over the years, personally swearing to their accuracy, which could expose him to criminal liability if the claims are found to have been intentionally false.

thedailybeast.com

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 9:29:16am

re: #276 lawhawk

This comes up periodically in cases of a sensational nature - going back to OJ Simpson (both times he went on trial for criminal acts - the double homicide and later armed robbery charges in Nevada). Serial killers. Mass shooters. White collar criminals like Bernie Madoff. They all get lots of press and much is made of the problem of finding a jury that can be impartial.

Yet every time we manage to get a jury that is impartial. We’ll get one here as well. It make take longer than some to get a jury seated (though it still looks like that’ll happen this week). But it will happen.

The difference here is that one side is actively threatening jurors; they definitely don’t want an impartial jury.

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jeffreyw Apr 18, 2024 • 9:31:52am

Not my size. Do better.

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 9:33:06am

re: #294 Hecuba’s daughter

The difference here is that one side is actively threatening jurors; they definitely don’t want an impartial jury.

Technically, neither side wants an impartial jury. The state would love it if they could load the jury box with anti-Trump New Yorkers who would vote in a New York minute to convict him. But the state, at least, doesn’t try to directly intimidate jurors into voting to convict, or else. However else the criminal process is stacked against the defendant, at least they have that going for them.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 9:35:13am

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 9:38:31am

Reporters are mad that their own reporting has caused the judge to constrain what they can say. Gee, dumb shits, maybe if you didn’t report on jurors in a way that exposes them to the stochastic terrorists on the rabid right, you wouldn’t find the judge handing down a gag order on you.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 9:39:54am

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Randall Gross Apr 18, 2024 • 9:41:26am

Andy Prieboy (songwriter, performer, former lead singer & frontman for Eye Protection and Wall of Voodoo,) is gifting White Trash Wins Lotto here

andyprieboy.com

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:41:32am

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 9:42:45am

re: #298 Nerdy Fish

They want to describe the jurors? Here you go, as a hypothetical…

“The jury consists of 12 adults, seven women and five men, ranging in age from 26 to 58. All are residents of New York City and represent diverse professional and educational backgrounds.”

See? No problemo.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:44:27am

re: #298 Nerdy Fish

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Reporters are mad that their own reporting has caused the judge to constrain what they can say. Gee, dumb shits, maybe if you didn’t report on jurors in a way that exposes them to the stochastic terrorists on the rabid right, you wouldn’t find the judge handing down a gag order on you.

They were hoping to get the scoop on a story about a juror getting pictures of their kids at school left on their car window. The media’s thirst for drama knows no bounds.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:45:13am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

Needs more Crichton.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 9:45:42am

M. Night Shyamalan has a new film coming up. An intriguing trailer:

Trap | Official Trailer

Stars Josh Hartnett, Ariel Donoghue, Saleka Shyamalan, Hayley Mills and Allison Pill. Written and directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

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wrenchwench Apr 18, 2024 • 9:47:10am

re: #302 Dr Lizardo

They want to describe the jurors? Here you go, as a hypothetical…

“The jury consists of 12 adults, seven women and five men, ranging in age from 26 to 58. All are residents of New York City and represent diverse professional and educational backgrounds.”

See? No problemo.

If they want to get into personal details, they could speculate whether Trump is using Juvederm in his face to make his cheek bones look a little more prominent, and the rest of his face a little less saggy.

Looked that way when he’s sleeping with his head tipped back.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:47:33am

I really think this jury will need to be sequestered.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 9:47:41am

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 9:49:02am

re: #264 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

In the first bunch of prospective jurors this morning, 57 of the group of 96 prospective jurors have self-identified as being unable to sit on Trump’s jury because they cannot be fair and impartial. They have been excused

Anyone who consumes news knows that he’s been committing crimes for his entire life.
Jurors have to have been living in a cave to miss knowing what Trump is.

fwiw
being a regular consumer of news, i like to believe i’d have no problem leaving my ‘prejudices’ at the door

i like to think i could weigh the case just based on the evidence presented and the judge’s instructions

compartmentalizing is not really that hard

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 9:49:03am

This is from an Amazon listing for a scratching box. Posting to show you the unusual cat, not the box.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 9:49:31am

re: #268 Eclectic Cyborg

I was worried from the beginning that finding a proper jury for Trump was going to be difficult.

Now, with the media damn near doxxing jurors with Trump egging them on, it may be near impossible.

Be interesting to see how dragged out this selection process gets.

we’re gonna need a bigger jury pool…

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wrenchwench Apr 18, 2024 • 9:49:57am

re: #307 darthstar

I really think this jury will need to be sequestered.

Same for the defendant. Separately, of course. Behind bars.

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gocart mozart Apr 18, 2024 • 9:51:02am

‘People are dying!’ Rep. Rosa DeLauro explodes with anger during foreign aid hearingpic.twitter.com/zVkrrKPC7h

— Molly Ploofkins™ (@Mollyploofkins) April 18, 2024

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:51:35am

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 9:51:58am

re: #283 JC1

I know what Trump is. I feel that I could compartmentalize that and still be impartial. I can play lawful neutral even though I’m not in real life.

damn!
damn!

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 9:52:16am

re: #307 darthstar

I really think this jury will need to be sequestered.

That might not be such a bad idea. This is a very high-profile case.

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 9:53:12am

Add it to the pile.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:53:21am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

That might not be such a bad idea. This is a very high-profile case.

They could stay at Trump Tower!

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Nerdy Fish Apr 18, 2024 • 9:53:37am

re: #313 gocart mozart

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They don’t care. In fact, to them, that’s a benefit. They are all in favor of bloodshed, as long as it isn’t their own.

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 9:55:47am

re: #298 Nerdy Fish

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Reporters are mad that their own reporting has caused the judge to constrain what they can say. Gee, dumb shits, maybe if you didn’t report on jurors in a way that exposes them to the stochastic terrorists on the rabid right, you wouldn’t find the judge handing down a gag order on you.

it’s not fair to us if a judge decides to use an anonymous jury

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:56:01am

I like this guy…

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Hecuba's daughter Apr 18, 2024 • 9:56:21am

re: #316 Dr Lizardo

That might not be such a bad idea. This is a very high-profile case.

And how many people can afford to spend a month or more away from their family and their career?

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:57:05am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many people can afford to spend a month or more away from their family and their career?

Don’t they get something like seven bucks a day?

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 18, 2024 • 9:58:09am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many people can afford to spend a month or more away from their family and their career?

Businesses can’t legally fire you for taking time off for jury duty.

Also I think sequestered jurors get a small stipend for their services.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 9:58:20am

re: #323 darthstar

In Philly you get $9 for the first 3 days then it jumps I think to $25 a day.

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darthstar Apr 18, 2024 • 9:59:10am

re: #325 PhillyPretzel ✅

In Philly you get $9 for the first 3 days then it jumps I think to $25 a day.

Ka-ching!

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 9:59:24am

re: #322 Hecuba’s daughter

And how many people can afford to spend a month or more away from their family and their career?

Sometimes there’s simply no other choice. The jury was sequestered for some eight months during the O.J. Simpson trial, another infamously high-profile case.

In this case, where the defendant is a former President and has a legion of violent thugs at his disposal, I’d strongly recommend sequestration.

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Backwoods Sleuth Apr 18, 2024 • 10:02:03am

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 10:03:45am

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 10:04:14am

After Jesse Watters ran this segment and Trump posted it, this juror asked to be excused because she was concerned about her identity becoming public. Fox & Trump are coordinating to intimidate jurors. pic.twitter.com/Fz8JC4A0n8

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 18, 2024

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 10:05:21am

re: #330 Dangerman

Trump and right-wing media are targeting normal average people doing their jury service the same way they targeted normal average people serving as poll workers.

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 18, 2024

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 10:06:02am

re: #331 Dangerman

no one ever had to live in fear that Joe Biden would find out their identity, just saying

— Jeff Tiedrich (@itsJeffTiedrich) April 18, 2024

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 10:06:05am

re: #330 Dangerman

Sounds like Jesse there needs to be investigated for jury tampering.

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Jay C Apr 18, 2024 • 10:07:45am

re: #319 Nerdy Fish

They don’t care. In fact, to them, that’s a benefit. They are all in favor of bloodshed, as long as it isn’t their own or any of their voters’.

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The Ghost of a Flea Apr 18, 2024 • 10:17:31am

re: #329 jaunte

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So…she’s works for American imperialism?

Because “withdraw from NATO” isn’t a thing that started with Putin, it’s a thing that reactionaries have been saying for a very long time because they think we should have unilateral relationships where we’re bullying everyone into doing what we want.

Liking Putin is a symptom of shit the reactionaries in this country have always been on about.

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Eclectic Cyborg Apr 18, 2024 • 10:19:27am

Marge Gone Wild: “I don’t care if the Speaker’s office becomes a revolving door … The days are over of the old Republican Party that wants to fund foreign wars and murder people while they stab the American people in their face!” pic.twitter.com/yUrQ814Nwp

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) April 18, 2024

This woman is a cancer.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS Apr 18, 2024 • 10:23:45am

re: #323 darthstar

Don’t they get something like seven bucks a day?

$40 per day.

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Randall Gross Apr 18, 2024 • 10:23:57am

re: #329 jaunte

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It’s a kneejerk fascist thing to oppose any flavor of internationalism not based in tribal feudalism. The fascists themselves do occasionally cooperate; hence U.S. conservatism’s secret love connection with imperialist/colonialist Russia.

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jaunte Apr 18, 2024 • 10:24:08am

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 10:43:57am

re: #339 jaunte

Geez. They are describing almost every juror in great detail. That in itself can be considered intimidation. I am glad I live in Philly.

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Mike Lamb Apr 18, 2024 • 10:47:24am

re: #340 PhillyPretzel ✅

Geez. They are describing almost every juror in great detail. That in itself can be considered intimidation. I am glad I live in Philly.

Pretty certain that is parody/hyperbole.

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PhillyPretzel ✅ Apr 18, 2024 • 10:48:50am

re: #341 Mike Lamb

Hmm. Possible.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈 Apr 18, 2024 • 10:49:33am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

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This woman is a cancer.

She’s a moron, and I think we should section and study her brain ASAP to see what went wrong.

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Dr Lizardo Apr 18, 2024 • 10:49:55am

BAND-MAID dropped a new single. This was co-written with Mike Einziger of Incubus.

Bestie

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Dangerman Apr 18, 2024 • 10:50:03am

re: #341 Mike Lamb

Pretty certain that is parody/hyperbole.

so far

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Axolotl Apr 18, 2024 • 11:35:58am

re: #70 Dangerman

In a narrow sense it’s what computers are.
What word processors are
Spreadsheets
Cad/cam
databases
Other applications..order processing a/r, a/p invoicing inventory, tax,
On and on

Automate the repetitive, remove a lot of error-prone parts. Do the same tasks with less people, faster and with better control, allowing the remaining users to function at a higher level.

From what I have seen, AI is not more than another tool for repetitive tasks or maybe data analysis. Even in those areas it is very limited and lightyears away from where people imagine it is.

Spy Auto

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