Paranoid Delusion of the Week

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Frank Gaffney’s post at Andrew Breitbart’s “Big Government” blog is titled, “Can This Possibly Be True?

I suggest an alternate title: “Could This Possibly Be Any More Paranoid and Ridiculous?

Now, thanks to an astute observation by Christopher Logan of the Logans Warning blog, we have another possible explanation for behavior that — in the face of rapidly growing threats posed by North Korean, Iranian, Russian, Chinese and others’ ballistic missiles — can only be described as treacherous and malfeasant: Team Obama’s anti-anti-missile initiatives are not simply acts of unilateral disarmament of the sort to be expected from an Alinsky acolyte. They seem to fit an increasingly obvious and worrying pattern of official U.S. submission to Islam and the theo-political-legal program the latter’s authorities call Shariah.

What could be code-breaking evidence of the latter explanation is to be found in the newly-disclosed redesign of the Missile Defense Agency logo (above). As Logan helpfully shows, the new MDA shield appears ominously to reflect a morphing of the Islamic crescent and star with the Obama campaign logo. (For a comparison, the previous logo is below.)

Even as the administration has lately made a show of rushing less capable sea- and land-based short-range (theater) missile defenses into the Persian Gulf in the face of rising panic there about Iran’s actual/incipient ballistic missile and nuclear capabilities, Team Obama is behaving in a way that — as the new MDA logo suggests — is all about accommodating that “Islamic Republic” and its ever-more aggressive stance.

Watch this space as we identify and consider various, ominous and far more clear-cut acts of submission to Shariah by President Obama and his team.

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667 comments
1 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:33:49pm

It's like the magic eye of crazy, if you stair at it long enough to see this as an secret Muslim signal, you've been looking at it too long...

2 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:34:27pm

The new logo can be printed with two colors of ink, instead of four or five. This represents an obviously Sharia-like conservatism.

3 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:34:47pm

I think it looks kinda cool....wtf?

4 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:34:56pm

If this is all they can come up with they are reaching. R e a c h i n g.

Fucking idiots.

5 darthstar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:35:19pm

I hear Michelle Obama's mother is in charge of the program, and it's real name is Michelle's Mama's Mooslim Missile Management System...

/ (for Breitbart, as he probably trolls here because he likes to see his name mentioned in any context)

6 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:35:46pm

as they say being paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you... the whole logo thing is a farce (not worth mentioning) but Iran is very real.

7 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:35:50pm

re: #5 darthstar

I hear Michelle Obama's mother is in charge of the program, and it's real name is Michelle's Mama's Mooslim Missile Management System...

/ (for Breitbart, as he probably trolls here because he likes to see his name mentioned in any context)

Well, so do I.

8 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:37:10pm

re: #7 Walter L. Newton

Well, so do I.

/I heard it was coded named "fat girls"...

9 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:37:56pm

OK I'm with Charles on this one. For every 7 time I disagree, I have to agree once, and this time it's really easy.

10 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:39:06pm

Frank Gaffney should not wear a Tea PArty Tri-Corner hat. Instead he should wear the belled cap of the Court Fool.

11 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:40:07pm

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Frank Gaffney should not wear a Tea PArty Tri-Corner hat. Instead he should wear the belled cap of the Court Fool.

Or a tin foil hat to keep out the CIA's mind control beams....

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:40:32pm

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

13 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:41:34pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

I think somebody then responded. "Do you honestly think there will be anybody out there crazy enough to care if we have a symbol for a missile defense plan that looks like our campaign logo?"

14 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:41:55pm

Sure I agree it was not intentional, and not a scandal... BUT it is a crescent and a star... I mean it really does have those elements...

AGAIN, not really a conspiracy to send the sekret muslim handshake...

BUT an unfortunate choice none the less.

15 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:07pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

those rubes?...I think not...bunch of kids having fun with their new toys

16 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:42:15pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

They might have thought that a plus. Logos are often designed to appeal to the party in power.

17 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:43:04pm

re: #13 jamesfirecat

I think somebody then responded. "Do you honestly think there will be anybody out there crazy enough to care if we have a symbol for a missile defense plan that looks like our campaign logo?"

you underestimate crazy...therefore you are not fit

18 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:43:07pm

Nefarious

19 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:43:41pm

They Updated: It Can’t Be True: More on that Missile Defense Agency logo

We have since learned that the logo has been used at the MDA website since at least October 2009. Matters are made more confusing by the fact that the agency continues to use its older shield-like logo for online and other purposes. The contract for a complete rebranding for MDA was let in 2007, during the Bush administration, although much of the work appears to have been done in 2008 in follow-on contracts during the presidential campaign in which the Obama logo was much in evidence.

Breitbart was pushing the government tracking chip implant thing last week too, no retraction on that one yet.

20 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:43:44pm

the thought that any foreign power would spend the time & money to develop a missile that could hit us when they could just wrap the bomb in cocaine & waltz it across the border is truly delusional...

21 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:44:00pm

Sometimes there's just not enough outrageous material to fill up everyone's column inches.

22 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:44:24pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

Sometimes I think they are just laughing, shaking their heads, saying, there's nothing we can do, nothing, that won't be torn apart as some radical threat.

Then they throw the crazies a new bone.

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:44:50pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Bam!
-Emeril

24 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:45:07pm

re: #20 brookly red

the thought that any foreign power would spend the time & money to develop a missile that could hit us when they could just wrap the bomb in cocaine & waltz it across the border is truly delusional...

And yet NK and Iran keep testing missles...

25 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:46:07pm

re: #14 Buck

Sure I agree it was not intentional, and not a scandal... BUT it is a crescent and a star... I mean it really does have those elements...

AGAIN, not really a conspiracy to send the sekret muslim handshake...

BUT an unfortunate choice none the less.

This and the birth certificate nonsense make me wonder sometimes if Obama isn't intentionally baiting the wingnuts. He is a jedi. That dry jedi wit comes through on things like this. He's probably kicking back in his white robes with the Mrs. guffawing about "judge me by that logo they do!"
{/nerd humor}

26 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:46:20pm

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bam!
-Emeril

Huh?

27 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:46:44pm

revolutions begin this way...a dispute over a design, unveil a conspiracy or two...BOOM!, Beaver Falls to the enemy

28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:47:17pm

re: #18 The Shadow Do

OBAMA'S TEAM STOLE THE LOGO FROM MDA!!
/

29 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:47:19pm

re: #24 Buck

And yet NK and Iran keep testing missles...

like the cocaine there is a market...

30 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:47:45pm

re: #24 Buck

And yet NK and Iran keep testing missles...

not for use against the USA

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:06pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

(I was agreeing with a "Bam!")
(Was giving credit)

32 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:12pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree this is a stupid, stupid ODS thingy.

I do have a question. Did anybody look at it on the design team and say, "Y'all do know people will think this looks like the Obama Campaign Logo, right?"?

Looking at it as a designer, I'd say you could start with the idea of missile defense and arrive at an earth's circle, a star, and a missile track, then use red white and blue for colors, without any thought of the Obama campaign logo.

33 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:41pm

re: #27 albusteve

revolutions begin this way...a dispute over a design, unveil a conspiracy or two...BOOM!, Beaver Falls to the enemy

Yes everyone knows that it was King George's revealing of "Wafty the Tea Bag" as a character who would be able to make the colonists far more willing to put a happy face on the entire Tea Tax thing.

That bug eyed smiling tea bag kicked off the revolutionary war....

34 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:42pm

One would think that an Iranian bomb would be crudely delivered, possibly in a cargo container, and that an anti-missile defense would not stop it.

35 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:48:55pm

re: #30 albusteve

not for use against the USA

no for sale and the scarier the better...

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:49:59pm

re: #32 jaunte

Think they saw any similarity to the Pepsi logo?
/

37 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:50:24pm

re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pepsi "Hits the Spot"

38 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:50:36pm

re: #34 Ojoe

One would think that an Iranian bomb would be crudely delivered, possibly in a cargo container, and that an anti-missile defense would not stop it.

don't think for a second that our enemies are not talking with the drug lords...

39 [deleted]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:50:56pm
40 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:51:11pm

re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(I was agreeing with a "Bam!")
(Was giving credit)

Thank you, sir.

41 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:51:33pm

re: #38 brookly red

don't think for a second that our enemies are not talking with the drug lords...

But if the drug lords blow us up, who will be left to buy their drugs?

Either way, clearly the message is that we need to start home growing our weed....

42 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:51:44pm

re: #38 brookly red

don't think for a second that our enemies are not talking with the drug lords...

move inland and hunker down...we are gonna get hit just as sure as shittin bro

43 avanti  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:52:09pm

As was pointed out earlier, it's the earth, in space with a missile trailing the pretty stripes and making a hit in space. Kinda cool, actually.

44 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:52:31pm

re: #38 brookly red

don't think for a second that our enemies are not talking with the drug lords...

It's the Smuggler's Blues:

45 Vambo  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:53:19pm

it looks like a finger scratching an eyeball.

actually it's a really ugly logo, but who the hell cares? the Missile Defense Agency is there for missiles and defense 'n stuff, not graphic design innovation.

46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:53:29pm

Well, we bitch about "flounces"... at least it wasn't here.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:54:05pm

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

CROCKETT! TUBBS!

48 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:54:12pm

re: #30 albusteve

right... aiming the test missile towards Hawaii, was an accident...

49 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:54:43pm

re: #42 albusteve

move inland and hunker down...we are gonna get hit just as sure as shittin bro

well I like to think that the fear of payback keeps us safe... well it used to keep us safe anyway... yeah there really is no reason for anyone to fear us any more. your right.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:55:43pm

re: #49 brookly red

Fear of payback only helps with people who value life.

51 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:56:01pm

re: #46 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, we bitch about "flounces"... at least it wasn't here.

Still, I hate it when people lose contact with reality, and that's how I see joining the stalker blog. If you do it, it means you've lost touch with reality.

52 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:56:30pm

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fear of payback only helps with people who value life.

what's payback?...who's on first?

53 avanti  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:56:49pm

Another conspirancy, Pepsi stole the Studebaker logo before they stole the Obama logo.

Studebaker.

54 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:57:32pm

It's a awful logo, full of neither sound nor fury and signifying....nothing.

You could use it for anything from a dry-cleaning chain to fast-food restaurants.

While pondering that, take a look at this, "America, the fragile empire", originally published in Foreign Affairs by Nial Ferguson, a professor at Harvard and Oxford.

55 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:57:55pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Still, I hate it when people lose contact with reality, and that's how I see joining the stalker blog. If you do it, it means you've lost touch with reality.

not in every case...there was a rule and it was broken....many cases had nothing to do with stalking

56 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:58:24pm

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fear of payback only helps with people who value life.

that is true, the people who order the terrorist actions all live in places like Paris, or Washington... out of harms way.

57 avanti  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:58:48pm

re: #51 Dark_Falcon

Still, I hate it when people lose contact with reality, and that's how I see joining the stalker blog. If you do it, it means you've lost touch with reality.

I don't get the stalker blog, some of the ex Lizards seem rational when they were here, but now eat this sort of stuff with a spoon.

58 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:59:17pm

re: #52 albusteve

what's payback?...who's on first?

What's on second, Steve

59 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:59:18pm

re: #14 Buck

Sure I agree it was not intentional, and not a scandal... BUT it is a crescent and a star... I mean it really does have those elements...

AGAIN, not really a conspiracy to send the sekret muslim handshake...

BUT an unfortunate choice none the less.

It's not a crescent. You are wrong. It's a circle within a circle occluded by another design element.

Knda like the Vulcan IDIC. Does this look like a crescent to you?

But go back to your silly whiny anti-Obama mumbojumbo.

60 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 6:59:47pm
Watch this space as we identify and consider various, ominous and far more clear-cut acts of submission to Shariah by President Obama and his team.

OK, this is ridiculous. Is "Big Government" considered journalism? When does someone call out yellow journalism verging on sedition? Or does he have distance because he's just linking to another story.

61 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:00:01pm

re: #56 brookly red

that is true, the people who order the terrorist actions all live in places like Paris, or Washington... out of harms way.

Not Washington or Paris, more like Damascus or Tehran.

62 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:00:25pm

re: #57 avanti

I don't get the stalker blog, some of the ex Lizards seem rational when they were here, but now eat this sort of stuff with a spoon.

you just don't get it do you?....it was not all about stalking, it was about where you posted

63 The Curmudgeon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:00:25pm

Everyone here is missing the big issue. That new logo is definitely loaded with sexual connotations.

64 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:01:05pm

re: #52 albusteve

what's payback?...who's on first?

Payback? well let's suppose that on 9/11 they flew a plane into the Kremlin... do you think Afghanistan would exist today?

65 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:01:11pm

re: #54 ryannon

It's a awful logo, full of neither sound nor fury and signifying...nothing.

You could use it for anything from a dry-cleaning chain to fast-food restaurants.

While pondering that, take a look at this, "America, the fragile empire", originally published in Foreign Affairs by Nial Ferguson, a professor at Harvard and Oxford.



He's a lunatic
and he;s suddenly very popular with the wingnuts because he predicting the end of the great American Empire. He's a douchebag and the people who believe his crap are idiots.

66 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:01:19pm

re: #1 jamesfirecat

It's like the magic eye of crazy, if you stair at it long enough to see this as an secret Muslim signal, you've been looking at it too long...

That's right. All part of a greater Illuminati conspiracy run from a bunker in Kenya.

I think it's a decent symbol and it gets the message across that it's representative of missile defense. In the parlance of our times, it's hip.

67 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:01:29pm

re: #59 WindUpBird

Rorshack tests don't have a wrong answer.

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:03:05pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

If this is all they can come up with they are reaching. R e a c h i n g.

Fucking idiots.

No. Reaching is one thing. This is...something else.

69 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:03:12pm

re: #63 The Curmudgeon

Everyone here is missing the big issue. That new logo is definitely loaded with sexual connotations.

Hot missile on missile action baby!

Of course you realize what that really means don't you?

TEH GAYZ!

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:03:35pm

re: #6 brookly red

as they say being paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you... the whole logo thing is a farce (not worth mentioning) but Iran is very real.

True, but not remotely related to this.

71 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:03:39pm

re: #63 The Curmudgeon

Everyone here is missing the big issue. That new logo is definitely loaded with sexual connotations.

"...When correctly viewed,
everything is lewd..."
Tom Lehrer

72 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:04:03pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

OK, this is ridiculous. Is "Big Government" considered journalism? When does someone call out yellow journalism verging on sedition? Or does he have distance because he's just linking to another story.

It's "journalism" the way a twinkie is considered a "meal". :D

Really, I could probably get better journalism by talking to the guy with the Gandalf beard on Hawthorne Street handing out Chick Tracts and rambling about the mark of the beast and the microchips the secret masters installed in his brain after they kidnapped him from his trailer in Medford.

73 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:04:37pm

re: #71 jaunte

"...When correctly viewed,
everything is lewd..."
Tom Lehrer

I could tell you things about the Peter Pan
Or the Wizard of Oz there's a dirty old man!

74 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:04:50pm

All of you sheeple clearly are missing that the logo represents the cabal of 13 Freemasons and Jews (12 when SFZ is here :P ) who meet in a vault 10 miles under the Earth in Switzerland in the center of that CERN atom smasher that warps time and space. The logo has an arrow pointing right to where they meet.

75 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:04:58pm

re: #14 Buck

Sure I agree it was not intentional, and not a scandal... BUT it is a crescent and a star... I mean it really does have those elements...

AGAIN, not really a conspiracy to send the sekret muslim handshake...

BUT an unfortunate choice none the less.

That's like saying that any design with crossing lines really Christian. What would YOU put on something that's supposed to be about, you know, stuff in orbit?

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:05:06pm

re: #67 keloyd

Rorshack tests don't have a wrong answer.

I'll bet if you reach over and grab the sheet out of the therapists hands, drop it on the floor and take a shit on it, then set it on fire; that would be considered a wrong answer.

77 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:05:09pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout


He's a lunatic
and he;s suddenly very popular with the wingnuts because he predicting the end of the great American Empire. He's a douchebag and the people who believe his crap are idiots.

Can you stop beating around the bush for once, Killgore, and just come out and let us know how you feel? :-)

I know what you're talking about, but like broken watches, even idiots....

Which is to say that there's a lot in his analysis of how things (like complex systems) fall apart which is interesting. Aside from that, no, I'm not about to move out to the sticks or construct a bunker - which is becoming a real niche market here in the EU, by the way.

78 brookly red  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:05:33pm

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

True, but not remotely related to this.

for sure... the logo is just a star trek delusion

79 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:06:03pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

They Updated: It Can’t Be True: More on that Missile Defense Agency logo

Breitbart was pushing the government tracking chip implant thing last week too, no retraction on that one yet.

Well, hell, what a bunch of naive little sheeple they are. They assume Bush could not have been signaling his submission to shariah? Don't they know how long this has been going on?

///

80 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:06:33pm

re: #64 brookly red

Payback? well let's suppose that on 9/11 they flew a plane into the Kremlin... do you think Afghanistan would exist today?

no, I think our payback is mild, not enough to deter future aggression towards us

81 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:06:45pm

re: #67 keloyd

Rorshack tests don't have a wrong answer.

It's just not a crescent is all. A crescent is an explicit design element. This isn't a damn crescent. it's one thing in front of another thing.

If I see a square with a triangle in front of it, what do i call it? a bunch of little triangles? Or a triangle in front of a square? I call it a triangle in front of a square. Because I'm not stupid. :D

/TIME CUBE BABY ALL CLOCK FACES ARE WRONG

82 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:07:18pm

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll bet if you reach over and grab the sheet out of the therapists hands, drop it on the floor and take a shit on it, then set it on fire; that would be considered a wrong answer.

Personal experience?

83 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:05pm

re: #59 WindUpBird

It's not a crescent. You are wrong. It's a circle within a circle occluded by another design element.

Knda like the Vulcan IDIC. Does this look like a crescent to you?

But go back to your silly whiny anti-Obama mumbojumbo.


Nothing like the Vulcan whatever.... It is a crescent element quite plainly. I am NOT saying it is a MUSLIM flag, or anything, but it is a crescent (and a star).

Look.... if they had used a 5 pointed star for the star.... One that looked almost like a Magen David.... and the designer said he meant the star found on sheriff badges....AND we accepted that.. BUT the crazies of the world saw Jooooish star...

You would have to agree it was an unfortunate choice.

84 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:07pm

re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist

That's like saying that any design with crossing lines really Christian. What would YOU put on something that's supposed to be about, you know, stuff in orbit?

An Obama campaign symbol with a red busters sign in front of it, oh and a donkey being beaten up by a elephant and also Ronald Reagan's smiling face made out of constellations OMG STAR WARS

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:08:14pm

re: #45 Vambo

it looks like a finger scratching an eyeball.

actually it's a really ugly logo, but who the hell cares? the Missile Defense Agency is there for missiles and defense 'n stuff, not graphic design innovation.

I'm just intrigued that a secretly Muslim president would carefully leave little...clues...to his true intentions. How stupid do they think this guy is?

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:09:18pm

re: #45 Vambo

it looks like a MIDDLE finger scratching an eyeball.

Oh noes! It's about Hillary Clinton!

87 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:09:30pm

re: #59 WindUpBird

It's not a crescent. You are wrong. It's a circle within a circle occluded by another design element.

Knda like the Vulcan IDIC. Does this look like a crescent to you?

But go back to your silly whiny anti-Obama mumbojumbo.

OMG!!!! The Vulcans are sekrit Muslims!!!!!

88 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:09:41pm

re: #83 Buck

Nothing like the Vulcan whatever... It is a crescent element quite plainly. I am NOT saying it is a MUSLIM flag, or anything, but it is a crescent (and a star).

Look... if they had used a 5 pointed star for the star... One that looked almost like a Magen David... and the designer said he meant the star found on sheriff badges...AND we accepted that.. BUT the crazies of the world saw Joooish star...

You would have to agree it was an unfortunate choice.

No, I don't. You're wrong, and you're silly. if you want to see ghosts in your room when you go to bed, if you see menacing eyes in every shadow in every alleyway, and if you want to see stars and crescents everywhere and fret about them, that's between you and your psychologist.

89 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:09:45pm

This is why we can't have nice logos.

90 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:10:01pm

Obviously it depicts the Temple of the Rosy-Cross, a tower surmounted by a dome in accordance with the Renaissance iconographic model, both Christian and Jewish, of the Temple of Jerusalem, reconstructed on the pattern of the Mosque of Omar. The circle around the blue field was incongruous, and inhabited incongruously, like one of those rebuses where you see a palace, a star in the foreground, a streak in white, and the tripartite lines representing the Father, Son and Holy Obama.

91 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:10:09pm

re: #81 WindUpBird

Sooo they've gotten to you too. I see how that new bird avatar is looking at me. I see it all now.

92 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:10:22pm

re: #85 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just intrigued that a secretly Muslim president would carefully leave little...clues...to his true intentions. How stupid do they think this guy is?

He's going all Da Vinci code on us. I hear Obama has an albino monk assassin that can past through solid matter!

93 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:10:45pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

By the way, your 'He's a lunatic' embedded link doesn't work - could you repost it?

94 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:10:55pm

re: #83 Buck

Nothing like the Vulcan whatever... It is a crescent element quite plainly. I am NOT saying it is a MUSLIM flag, or anything, but it is a crescent (and a star).

Look... if they had used a 5 pointed star for the star... One that looked almost like a Magen David... and the designer said he meant the star found on sheriff badges...AND we accepted that.. BUT the crazies of the world saw Joooish star...

You would have to agree it was an unfortunate choice.

Only if you define angering crazy people and in the process making them reveal how truly crazy they are an unfortunate outcome....

95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:20pm

re: #89 jaunte

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Both excellent, though Walter's took a lot more work.

96 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:41pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Much time on your hands Walter??
Haha...That was DEEP!!LOL
How are ya?

98 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:11:57pm

re: #91 keloyd

Sooo they've gotten to you too. I see how that new bird avatar is looking at me. I see it all now.

THE EYES GLOW OH HOW THEY GLOW LOOK INTO THE COILING MISTS OF FOREVER AND RIDE THE TIDES OF WINGED DESTINY


(actually, they do glow, they're made of coiled electro-luminscent wire :D )

99 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:12:11pm

re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe they should use the old Procter & Gamble logo. That was cool:
Image: proctergamblelogo_big.jpg

100 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:12:35pm

we are such a bunch of boobs...worried about TV pundits, logos, tapes of some stupid demonstration....it's no wonder our enemies laugh at us when we fill up the blogs with Pam Geller and meaningless graphics...we are becoming pushovers, more concerned about AmIdol pols and drawings on Fox TV...we are fucked

101 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:13:16pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

Sigh, again, Missile Defense Logos for Wingnut Dummies.

Lovely. That post gets favorited. How are you this evening?

102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:13:40pm

re: #99 jaunte

I had a cousin who was part of that "P&G is of the Debbil!" boycott.

I quoted Barney Fife.

"He's a nut!"

103 oldegeezr  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:13:50pm

re: #57 avanti

Stalker blog, what, which one?

I’m a rather ignorant newbie here… It would be wonderfully ironic, if I’d been there and hammered; before CJ, was merciful and let me act foolish around here…!

104 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:14:03pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Lovely. That post gets favorited. How are you this evening?

Good, you?
That image edit took me 1 minute in paint.NET
XD

105 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:14:42pm

It a metaphor for the administration and Obama's interest in the cosmography of the invisible, magnetism, auras, fluids, psy-chometry, and clairvoyance, and in general the study of the five hyperphysical senses—not to mention horoscopic astrology (which, of course, becomes a mere mockery of learning when not conducted with the proper precautions), as well as physiognomies, mind reading, and the predictive arts (tarots, dream books), ranging to the highest levels, such as prophecy and ecstasy, alchemy, spa-gyrics, telepathy, exorcism, ceremonial and evocatory magic, basic theurgy, early cabala, Brahmanism, gymnosophy, Memphis hieroglyphics—” “Templar phenomenology,” necromancy and sorcery among the other races, ono-mancy, prophetic furies, voluntary thaumaturgy, hypnotic suggestion, yoga, somnambulism, mercurial chemistry...For the mystical tendency, nuns of Loudon, the convulsives of Saint-Mldard, the mystical beverages, the wine of Egypt, and the elixir of life, and arsenic water.

106 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:14:49pm

re: #88 WindUpBird

No, I don't. You're wrong, and you're silly. if you want to see ghosts in your room when you go to bed, if you see menacing eyes in every shadow in every alleyway, and if you want to see stars and crescents everywhere and fret about them, that's between you and your psychologist.

I was very clear that I do NOT see menacing at all.

AND I never said I see crescents everywhere...

AND I was perfectly clear that I don't fret.

But, hey thanks for playing, being insulting, and attacking me.

107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:05pm

re: #103 oldegeezr

Ignore them, and you will never know they exist.

108 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:17pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Obviously it depicts the Temple of the Rosy-Cross, a tower surmounted by a dome in accordance with the Renaissance iconographic model, both Christian and Jewish, of the Temple of Jerusalem, reconstructed on the pattern of the Mosque of Omar. The circle around the blue field was incongruous, and inhabited incongruously, like one of those rebuses where you see a palace, a star in the foreground, a streak in white, and the tripartite lines representing the Father, Son and Holy Obama.

To the ODS bat-shit crazy wingnuts frothing over Logogate, I'm going to paraphrase Freud: Sometimes a logo is just a logo.

BTW, Walter, I saw you mentioning a couple of threads back you were out of work again...what happened to the thrift store gig?

109 Locker  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:21pm

These guys are just pissed the organization isn't named "The Jihad Eradication Red Blooded American Defense System" JERBADS.

110 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:21pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Actually I thought it resembled a intrauterine birth control devise...
But that 's me!//

111 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:15:58pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

I've seen most of those words before, but never all in one place.

112 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:07pm

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had a cousin who was part of that "P&G is of the Debbil!" boycott.

I quoted Barney Fife.

"He's a nut!"

Sometimes, you just gotta nip it in the bud...nip it!

113 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:09pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

It a metaphor for the administration and Obama's interest in the cosmography of the invisible, magnetism, auras, fluids, psy-chometry, and clairvoyance, and in general the study of the five hyperphysical senses—not to mention horoscopic astrology (which, of course, becomes a mere mockery of learning when not conducted with the proper precautions), as well as physiognomies, mind reading, and the predictive arts (tarots, dream books), ranging to the highest levels, such as prophecy and ecstasy, alchemy, spa-gyrics, telepathy, exorcism, ceremonial and evocatory magic, basic theurgy, early cabala, Brahmanism, gymnosophy, Memphis hieroglyphics—” “Templar phenomenology,” necromancy and sorcery among the other races, ono-mancy, prophetic furies, voluntary thaumaturgy, hypnotic suggestion, yoga, somnambulism, mercurial chemistry...For the mystical tendency, nuns of Loudon, the convulsives of Saint-Mldard, the mystical beverages, the wine of Egypt, and the elixir of life, and arsenic water.

Just as I suspected.

114 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:27pm

re: #89 jaunte

This is why we can't have nice logos.

They need to take a page from metal. Make the logo look as dangerous as our ICBMs. THIS IS A LOGO: Image: enthroned_logo.gif

115 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:34pm

It's still a milquetoast, politically correct and meaningless logo. Should be on an energy drink or a sex toy.

116 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:39pm

re: #90 Walter L. Newton

Obviously it depicts the Temple of the Rosy-Cross, a tower surmounted by a dome in accordance with the Renaissance iconographic model, both Christian and Jewish, of the Temple of Jerusalem, reconstructed on the pattern of the Mosque of Omar. The circle around the blue field was incongruous, and inhabited incongruously, like one of those rebuses where you see a palace, a star in the foreground, a streak in white, and the tripartite lines representing the Father, Son and Holy Obama.

You've been reading too much Dan Brown.

117 albusteve  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:42pm

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ignore them, and you will never know they exist.

ha!...hahahaha!

118 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:16:52pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Good, you?
That image edit took me 1 minute in paint.NET
XD

Obviously you need to keep it handy for the next few. Good work V.

119 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:03pm

re: #92 WindUpBird

He's going all Da Vinci code on us. I hear Obama has an albino monk assassin that can past through solid matter!

So, why is Andrew Breitbart still alive, in that case?

120 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:06pm

re: #93 ryannon

By the way, your 'He's a lunatic' embedded link doesn't work - could you repost it?

oops, sorry: Niall Ferguson. He's probably a very smart person but he's still out of his mind.

121 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:25pm

re: #97 Varek Raith

Sigh, again, Missile Defense Logos for Wingnut Dummies.

Excellent breakdown for the ODS-afflicted mental midgets...

122 avanti  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:26pm

re: #99 jaunte

Maybe they should use the old Procter & Gamble logo. That was cool:
[Link: www.twoagespilgrims.com...]

I recall that one, folks were told to boycott the products because of the satanic image.

123 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:28pm

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

You've been reading too much Dan Brown.

If you've read any Dan Brown? You've been reading too much Dan Brown.

124 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:38pm

re: #108 talon_262

Quit. Short story, I'm very "A" type personality, like to do my job as well as I can, the place had a certain inertia that didn't match mine, and I felt I was upsetting the status quo.

In short... I was a square peg in a black hole.

125 The Shadow Do  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:17:38pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

It a metaphor for the administration and Obama's interest in the cosmography of the invisible, magnetism, auras, fluids, psy-chometry, and clairvoyance, and in general the study of the five hyperphysical senses—not to mention horoscopic astrology (which, of course, becomes a mere mockery of learning when not conducted with the proper precautions), as well as physiognomies, mind reading, and the predictive arts (tarots, dream books), ranging to the highest levels, such as prophecy and ecstasy, alchemy, spa-gyrics, telepathy, exorcism, ceremonial and evocatory magic, basic theurgy, early cabala, Brahmanism, gymnosophy, Memphis hieroglyphics—” “Templar phenomenology,” necromancy and sorcery among the other races, ono-mancy, prophetic furies, voluntary thaumaturgy, hypnotic suggestion, yoga, somnambulism, mercurial chemistry...For the mystical tendency, nuns of Loudon, the convulsives of Saint-Mldard, the mystical beverages, the wine of Egypt, and the elixir of life, and arsenic water.

Too much for a rotating title?

126 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:18:06pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

A MILLION UPDINGS FOR THIS :D

There's like a dozen great band names in that post.

127 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:18:20pm

re: #114 WindUpBird

They need to take a page from metal. Make the logo look as dangerous as our ICBMs. THIS IS A LOGO: [Link: www.metalengine.co.uk...]

And clearly OF THE DEVIL!!!!///

128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:18:29pm

re: #122 avanti

I recall that one, folks were told to boycott the products because of the satanic image.

Kind of... the logo depicted that P&G was owned by the Church of Satan, IIRC.

129 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:18:43pm

re: #83 Buck

Nothing like the Vulcan whatever... It is a crescent element quite plainly. I am NOT saying it is a MUSLIM flag, or anything, but it is a crescent (and a star).

Look... if they had used a 5 pointed star for the star... One that looked almost like a Magen David... and the designer said he meant the star found on sheriff badges...AND we accepted that.. BUT the crazies of the world saw Joooish star...

You would have to agree it was an unfortunate choice.

Magen David is a 6 pointed star. The 5 pointed star (oh noes!) is teh Stan.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:18:44pm

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

You've been reading too much Dan Brown.

Umberto Eco was there first!

131 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:03pm

re: #122 avanti

I recall that one, folks were told to boycott the products because of the satanic image.

I remember as well. The man in the moon, and stars, and it was all supposed to add up to 666 or something.

132 Buck  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:11pm

re: #129 Alouette

Magen David is a 6 pointed star. The 5 pointed star (oh noes!) is teh Stan.

Correct... my mistype...

133 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:31pm

re: #124 Walter L. Newton

Quit. Short story, I'm very "A" type personality, like to do my job as well as I can, the place had a certain inertia that didn't match mine, and I felt I was upsetting the status quo.

In short... I was a square peg in a black hole.

Man, hate to hear that...nothing sucks nearly as much as running headlong into a metric shit-ton of institutional inertia. I'm sure you (and most of us) have been there before...

134 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:40pm
135 valdivia  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:19:46pm

I usually lurk here but wanted to point out, that this logo was designed *before* the 2008 election. Here is the relevant portion from a fox news story on this:

"The idea that the President would pay attention to an agency logo redesign or that the design in anyway reflected some secret Muslim agenda, as Richard Lehner of the Missile Defense Agency noted, “is ridiculous.” Lehner told Fox that “it isn’t a new logo to replace the official logo. It’s a logo developed for recruiting materials and for our public Web site. Also, it was used prior to the 2008 election and it has no link to any political campaign.”

136 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:02pm

re: #111 keloyd

I've seen most of those words before, but never all in one place.

re: #116 SanFranciscoZionist

You've been reading too much Dan Brown.

re: #126 WindUpBird

A MILLION UPDINGS FOR THIS :D

There's like a dozen great band names in that post.

Reading to much Umberto Eco - Foucalt's Pendulum - I clipped and pasted those two paragraphs from a text file I have of the whole book.

The paragraph that mentions all those "words" are actual a list twice as long as that in the book. I edited down for the comment.

137 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:06pm

re: #129 Alouette

Magen David is a 6 pointed star. The 5 pointed star (oh noes!) is teh Stan.

Only when inverted. Upright, it symbolizes the wounds of the Crucifixion, the body of man, and some other good stuff.

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:13pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

So, why is Andrew Breitbart still alive, in that case?

He's a useful idiot! if the opposition is digging their own grave, why stop them? :D

also, I think Breitbart might actually have adamantium bones and healing factor.

139 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:28pm

re: #92 WindUpBird

He's going all Da Vinci code on us. I hear Obama has an albino monk assassin that can past through solid matter!

The albino monk is so lame. Dan Brown's newest villain is a steroidal psycho tattooed dude.

140 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:43pm

re: #134 Gus 802

But South Carolina went to the GOP in 2008. Could it be that John McCain was the real mooslim candidate?

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:20:48pm

re: #134 Gus 802

Secret Sharia message in flag of The State of South Carolina.

It's an "unfortunate" design.

/

Aaaaaaahhhhh!

/but no star, so that must mean it's OK

142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:21:36pm

re: #135 valdivia

So, it's possible that the Obama Campaign stole the logo from them?

143 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:21:38pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Good, you?
That image edit took me 1 minute in paint.NET
XD

Not as good. Today was a tough day. I almost got in trouble, but thankfully did not. But I did have to spend all my time on the sales floor while my co-works goofed off. I will be talking to management about it, because I feel that some of them did not do their part today. I will not name names here however.

144 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:21:46pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Aaaahhh!

/but no star, so that must mean it's OK

It's hidden behind the desert palm.

/

145 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:21:50pm

re: #134 Gus 802

re: #134 Gus 802

Secret Sharia message in flag of The State of South Carolina.

It's an "unfortunate" design.

/

It's a tree of six-fingered hands!

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:21:51pm

re: #140 Obdicut

But South Carolina went to the GOP in 2008. Could it be that John McCain was the real mooslim candidate?

Heh, heh, heh, little one. You actually think there was a non-mooslim candidate in that campaign? Oh, you have much to learn.

/

147 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:07pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

He's a useful idiot! if the opposition is digging their own grave, why stop them? :D

also, I think Breitbart might actually have adamantium bones and healing factor.

Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
Napoleon Bonaparte

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:10pm

re: #144 Gus 802

It's hidden behind the desert palm.

/

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!

149 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:12pm

re: #141 SanFranciscoZionist

Aaaahhh!

/but no star, so that must mean it's OK

Oh, I'm sure they are rethinking the design.

150 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:16pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

Reading to much Umberto Eco - Foucalt's Pendulum - I clipped and pasted those two paragraphs from a text file I have of the whole book.

The paragraph that mentions all those "words" are actual a list twice as long as that in the book. I edited down for the comment.


God dammit, I should have know! I love that book. The bit where the older guy of the three (there's Causabon, Belbo, and the older guy I can't remember) when he says "I hate the spirit of the enlightenment." That whole rant is my favorite thing in the book.

151 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:29pm

re: #140 Obdicut

But South Carolina went to the GOP in 2008. Could it be that John McCain was the real mooslim candidate?

We don't have any idea what he might have been brainwashed to do while he was a POW!

152 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:22:47pm

re: #135 valdivia

I usually lurk here but wanted to point out, that this logo was designed *before* the 2008 election. Here is the relevant portion from a fox news story on this:

"The idea that the President would pay attention to an agency logo redesign or that the design in anyway reflected some secret Muslim agenda, as Richard Lehner of the Missile Defense Agency noted, “is ridiculous.” Lehner told Fox that “it isn’t a new logo to replace the official logo. It’s a logo developed for recruiting materials and for our public Web site. Also, it was used prior to the 2008 election and it has no link to any political campaign.”

Good find, and nice first post. Welcome to LGF!

153 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:04pm

re: #139 Alouette

Hey!!
They paid great ...so knock it off!/

154 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:37pm

Really, people. You gotta take those logos seriously. They'll tell you everything about the world if you pay attention.

Why, the dollar bill alone reveals the entire Masonic-Illuminati conspiracy to him with eyes that see.

155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:39pm

re: #139 Alouette

Gosh, I read that. I want those hours back!

I mean, really. How many frickin' times can an author write, a startled/exasperated/shocked/frightened:

"Oh my god"


in one book.

156 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:55pm

re: #149 Stanley Sea

Oh, I'm sure they are rethinking the design.

The logo needs to be a fire-breathing chrome eagle with tank treads and MX missles for eyes, over a pentagram. THIS IS AMERICA

157 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:23:58pm

re: #151 jamesfirecat

We don't have any idea what he might have been brainwashed to do while he was a POW!

WE DO KNOW! HE WAS TOLD TO SUPPRESS RON PAUL AND PREPARE THE FEMA CAMPS!!!11111111

158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:24:21pm

re: #145 jaunte

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

159 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:24:34pm

re: #156 WindUpBird

The logo needs to be a fire-breathing chrome eagle with tank treads and MX missles for eyes, over a pentagram. THIS IS AMERICA

SMACK!

160 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:25:06pm

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:25:13pm

re: #145 jaunte

re: #134 Gus 802

It's a tree of six-fingered hands!

Signifying Anne Boleyn, mother of Elizabeth I, and mistress and wife of Henry VIII, who, in an effort to move England toward his secret Muslim faith, broke with the Catholic Church.

I'm not sure whether the six-fingered hands are a tribute, or a warning to future generations. But clearly, this has been going on for a VERY long time.

162 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:25:13pm

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

STOP SAYING THAT!!!

163 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:25:58pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

WHAT?

How can you hate Princess Bride?

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:02pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

*snicker*

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:30pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

Oh, Walter. What are we going to do with you?

166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:33pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

May I ask why?

167 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:26:46pm

I, for one, welcome our new vulcan overlords.

168 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:12pm

re: #143 Dark_Falcon

Not as good. Today was a tough day. I almost got in trouble, but thankfully did not. But I did have to spend all my time on the sales floor while my co-works goofed off. I will be talking to management about it, because I feel that some of them did not do their part today. I will not name names here however.

Sorry to hear that.
Best of luck to you!

169 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:19pm

re: #85 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm just intrigued that a secretly Muslim president would carefully leave little...clues...to his true intentions. How stupid do they think this guy is?

Ok. As a double-sekrit operative of ZOG, I should point out that perhaps, just perhaps, someone has been slipping something into BHO's morning tea to account for this lack of...tact.

170 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:20pm

re: #139 Alouette

The albino monk is so lame. Dan Brown's newest villain is a steroidal psycho tattooed dude.

He's an Ultimate Fighter? Does he read from John Dee's Five Books of Mystery in between putting choke holds on opponents in the Octagon?

171 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:33pm

re: #119 SanFranciscoZionist

So, why is Andrew Breitbart still alive, in that case?

Because he's the best damned hippie double-agent alive, that's why. His birth name was Sunbeam Firebird McUnicorn, but his friends call him "the brown acid."

172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:38pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

Blame jaunte.

jaunte brought up the six fingered hand, not me.

173 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:27:45pm

re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh, I read that. I want those hours back!

I mean, really. How many frickin' times can an author write, a startled/exasperated/shocked/frightened:

in one book.

Dan Brown spawned a whole genre of fiction and he is the lamest author of the bunch.

174 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:13pm

re: #172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can call me the Dread Pirate jaunte.

175 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:15pm

re: #161 SanFranciscoZionist

Signifying Anne Boleyn, mother of Elizabeth I, and mistress and wife of Henry VIII, who, in an effort to move England toward his secret Muslim faith, broke with the Catholic Church.

I'm not sure whether the six-fingered hands are a tribute, or a warning to future generations. But clearly, this has been going on for a VERY long time.

Anne Boleyn also had three boobs.

176 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:27pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

It is an outdated book of political satire, turned into a children's fable.

177 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:28:37pm

re: #172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Blame jaunte.

jaunte brought up the six fingered hand, not me.

I wish I could favorite this entire thread.

178 webevintage  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:26pm

re: #102 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I had a cousin who was part of that "P&G is of the Debbil!" boycott.

I quoted Barney Fife.

"He's a nut!"

It's me, it's me, it's Ernest T.

179 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:31pm

re: #177 WindUpBird

I wish I could favorite this entire thread.

Notepad. Ctrl+C. Ctrl+V.
;)

180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:29:53pm

re: #178 webevintage

That's on his grave. Didja know that?

181 valdivia  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:10pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

Thanks! Since no one had yet pointed it out I figured I would jump into commenting by providing the little fact that made the whole muslim/sharia conspiracy even more ridiculous. I guess Obama traveled back in time and ordered someone from the bush administration to do this? Since he is all powerful and such.

here is the link btw to the source. I hate linking to Fox but even they include the quote that disproves this.

182 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:27pm

re: #175 Alouette

Anne Boleyn also had three boobs.

Larry, Moe and Curley.

/I couldn't stop myself

183 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:30:35pm

oh thank you so much breitbart for alerting us to this conspiracy

*puts on propeller beanie*
*spins propeller*
*votes republican*

184 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:31:03pm

re: #181 valdivia

Nice! Ironic that it wasn't an Obama Admin design.
ROFL@Wingnuttia!

185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:31:29pm
186 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:31:45pm

re: #179 Varek Raith

Notepad. Ctrl+C. Ctrl+V.
;)

I know my control C and control V, I use Photoshop for a living! Control A, control C, control V. Select all, copy, paste into new layer, then proceed to make pixel wreckage.

187 jhrhv  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:32:04pm

He could have had a V8

188 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:32:19pm

The problem with the logo is that it presumes a viewer intelligent enough to see the substitution of negative for positive space. But for the average yahoo, what is actually the globe of Earth looks like the empty space within a crescent. Though if you think about that, your head will start to spin, because in the case of the Moon, that space is filled with dark matter.

Wheels within wheels, plots within plots, arcana hidden beneath esoterica.

This thread has not even begun to plumb the depths of iniquity revealed by Breitbart the Brave and his intrepid band of scholars.

189 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:32:31pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

I HATE THAT MOVIE.

Please say you're joking, Walter...The Princess Bride is a damn good movie, IMO.

190 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:32:48pm

re: #186 WindUpBird

I know my control C and control V, I use Photoshop for a living! Control A, control C, control V. Select all, copy, paste into new layer, then proceed to make pixel wreckage.

Just teasing ya!
:P

191 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:33:01pm

More sekirt Sharia!111! This time from the Crescent Society of the Delta Tau Delta Education Foundation!!1!

192 webevintage  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:33:21pm

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's me, it's me! It's Ernest T.

That is just. so. awesome.

193 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:33:22pm

re: #183 SpaceJesus

oh thank you so much breitbart for alerting us to this conspiracy

*puts on propeller beanie*
*spins propeller*
*votes republican*

*straps propeller beanie to SpaceJesus's head
*beanie carries SJ back into space

/

194 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:33:54pm

re: #190 Varek Raith

Just teasing ya!
:P

^_^ My left hand is permanently contorted into a Photoshop Claw. It's sorta like an RSI, but more Cronenbergian.

195 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:05pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout


He's a lunatic
and he;s suddenly very popular with the wingnuts because he predicting the end of the great American Empire. He's a douchebag and the people who believe his crap are idiots.

Since you never posted a working "He's a lunatic" link (and even down-dinged me for alluding to him), I took it upon myself to see if Google gives some hint(s) of his rampant wingnuttery. A cursory examination of the first two pages makes him look pretty credible to me. Is he a hidden Luap Norer? Does he want to audit/abolish the Fed? Does he talk about FEMA camps somewhere?

Inquiring minds, and all that.

Educate us, Killgore.

196 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:10pm

re: #193 Dark_Falcon

*straps propeller beanie to SpaceJesus's head
*beanie carries SJ back into space

/

*founds republican party of the moon*
*is andrew breitbart*

197 darthstar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:25pm

re: #172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Blame jaunte.

jaunte brought up the six fingered hand, not me.

I'm more worried about the guy with the third nipple (Man with the Golden Gun was one of my favorite Bond films)

198 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:37pm

re: #173 Alouette

re: #174 jaunte

re: #175 Alouette

Alouette, jaunte Alouette

Alouette, je te plumerai

Je te plumerai la tête

(Je te plumerai la tête)

Et la tête

(Et la tête)

Alouette

(Alouette)

O-o-o-oh
Alouette, Alouette
Alouette, je te plumerai
Je te plumerai le bec

(Je te plumerai le bec)
Et le bec
(Et le bec)
Et la tête
(Et la tête)
Alouette
(Alouette)
O-o-o-oh

199 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:41pm

re: #191 Gus 802

More sekirt Sharia!111! This time from the Crescent Society of the Delta Tau Delta Education Foundation!!1!

Having quite a bit of fun with this, aren't we?
:)

200 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:50pm

re: #196 SpaceJesus

*founds republican party of the moon*
*is andrew breitbart*

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

201 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:34:57pm

re: #188 Cato the Elder

The problem with the logo is that it presumes a viewer intelligent enough to see the substitution of negative for positive space. But for the average yahoo, what is actually the globe of Earth looks like the empty space within a crescent. Though if you think about that, your head will start to spin, because in the case of the Moon, that space is filled with dark matter.

Wheels within wheels, plots within plots, arcana hidden beneath esoterica.

This thread has not even begun to plumb the depths of iniquity revealed by Breitbart the Brave and his intrepid band of scholars.

Yes, Andrew Breitbart is as brave as Sir Robin. :D

202 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:35:36pm

re: #196 SpaceJesus

*founds republican party of the moon*
*is andrew breitbart*

founds??
Whatever...............

203 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:35:38pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

Well you are Lunatics.

/kidding

204 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:35:40pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

"That's no moon...."

205 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:35:56pm

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It's me, it's me! It's Ernest T.

Had a good career in advertising after his acting career...love the headstone though ;-P

206 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:36:30pm

re: #195 ryannon

No linky no washee:

[Link: www.google.com...]

207 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:36:33pm

re: #199 Varek Raith

Having quite a bit of fun with this, aren't we?
:)

Yeah. It's too absurd to pass up.

208 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:29pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

Nah. Respectable Nixon-Republican-Americans get the moon. The libruls get everything in the night sky you think you see that is more than 6004 light years away.

209 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:43pm

re: #191 Gus 802

More sekirt Sharia!111! This time from the Crescent Society of the Delta Tau Delta Education Foundation!!1!

I am beginning to get the feeling that there's no point fighting this.

/

210 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:51pm

re: #207 Gus 802

Yeah. It's too absurd to pass up.

Lol, we should gather up all these 'secret' logos and pass 'em along to Breitbart!

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:53pm

re: #198 swamprat

EVERYBODY NOW!...

212 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:37:56pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

Yes, Andrew Breitbart is as brave as Sir Robin. :D

"Scarcely was his armor damp..."

213 darthstar  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:38:07pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

I thought it was made of cheese

214 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:38:49pm

Forget the logo - what is the missile defense shield going to look like? Will it work? Is it worth the money?

215 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:12pm

re: #208 keloyd

Nah. Respectable Nixon-Republican-Americans get the moon. The libruls get everything in the night sky you think you see that is more than 6004 light years away.

You want to cede that much space to them!?!?!?1
/

216 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:31pm

re: #214 Racer X

It's like federal reserve backed currency. If we all agree that it works, then it works.

217 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:33pm

re: #204 Varek Raith

"That's no moon..."

Can your newly upgraded Death Star take out an individual building. Because I think that Andrew Breitbart's house needs some Superlaser love.

/////

218 DaddyLawBucks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:40pm

I know this logo is a commie Muslum plot and I can prove it! Just show me where it says "IN GOD WE TRUST" on the logo? Hugh? Can't find it anyplace can you? What more do you need to know?

219 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:39:53pm

re: #195 ryannon

Damn, for some reason I can't get the link to his Wiki page to work. He's a Fair tax loon with some revisionist version of WWI. He's a kook, you can take him seriously if you want to.
/We're Doooom! Ron Paul! Konstitushun!

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:04pm

re: #200 WindUpBird

Dammit, I thought the moon belonged to liberals! :D

re: #213 darthstar

I thought it was made of cheese


Wait for it...

GUBMINT CHEESE!

221 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:07pm

re: #214 Racer X

Forget the logo - what is the missile defense shield going to look like? Will it work? Is it worth the money?

...How will we know it's even TURNED ON???
WE'RE DOOMED I TELL YA!!!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA>>>>

222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:36pm

re: #218 daddylawbucks

Huh?

223 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:40:53pm

re: #216 keloyd

It's like federal reserve backed currency. If we all agree that it works, then it works.

True enough--if THEY think it works, it works.

224 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:09pm

The moon is mine!

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

225 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:27pm

U+262Are: #209 SanFranciscoZionist

I am beginning to get the feeling that there's no point fighting this.

/

Alpha Theta Sigma!!11!!!

226 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:29pm

How screwed up is my family? I could not stay at my new house tonight because of a gas leak that will not be fixed until tomorrow. My mother said it would be ok if I stayed over there. I went over and ate dinner with her. At 7:30, she went into her room, turned her TV up so loud you could hear it on the street (literally), and promptly went to sleep just 8 feet from the blaring monster. She is 85 but not hard of hearing at all.
The remote is nowhere to be found (I think she is on top of it) and I cannot see the controls without turning on the light and waking her up. It is loud enough to keep me awake everywhere in the house. I gave up, got my laptop, and went to a motel. I remember she and my stepfather used to do this when my wife and I were visiting and it was one reason we stopped staying with them when we were in town. In contrast, she is the very soul of consideration if anyone but me is staying there.
When I was a teacher, and later a housing officer, I had a lot of occasion to visit the homes of poor people. There was almost invariably a TV blasting away at wake-the-dead levels in the living room, usually with a crowd of children crying and screaming in an effort to be heard over it. I am absolutely convinced that many low income children do poorly in school not because their own TV watching is a distraction, but because their parent's TV habits (and other forms of noise addiction) make it impossible to study or concentrate in close quarters.

227 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:38pm

re: #217 Dark_Falcon

Can your newly upgraded Death Star take out an individual building. Because I think that Andrew Breitbart's house needs some Superlaser love.

///

Well, if I focus the beam tight enough, it would blow straight through the planet. Just warn whoever is directly opposite of him on the planet...
:evilgrin:
/

228 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:41:46pm

More than 25 years ago, President Ronald Reagan challenged the U.S. scientific community to develop antiballistic missile technologies that would improve our national security and reduce our reliance on nuclear weapons. Today, the Missile Defense Agency, or MDA, is answering that challenge.

229 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:10pm
230 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:42:31pm

re: #218 daddylawbucks

I know this logo is a commie Muslum plot and I can prove it! Just show me where it says "IN GOD WE TRUST" on the logo? Hugh? Can't find it anyplace can you? What more do you need to know?

If you flip it sideways you'll see it. It's tiny, but it's there!!

231 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:43:07pm

re: #226 shiplord kirel

Silence is very under appreciated in American culture in general.

232 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:19pm

Can someone tell me what the HELL has happened to YouTube?

You can't seem to get single videos anymore, just effin' playlists. And the URLs don't post properly in LGF anymore.

Is there a way to fix this and set it to work the way it used to, or is it like Facebook - you get used to a layout and they "improve" it beyond all usability?

233 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:26pm

re: #226 shiplord kirel

I would have left evidents of violent abduction....
Then gone to a hotel....
I'm a stinker...

234 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:29pm

re: #189 talon_262

Please say you're joking, Walter...The Princess Bride is a damn good movie, IMO.

I'm not joking.

235 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:44:29pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

+

236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:10pm

re: #234 Walter L. Newton

And that's okay.

237 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:23pm

re: #232 Cato the Elder

Worked about an hour ago.

238 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:29pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

Silence is very under appreciated in American culture in general.

My early exposure to gunfire, explosions, and Huey rotor noise probably gave me an especially strong aversion to it, but I really think the need to be surrounded by noise is a compulsion associated with low intelligence and cultural poverty.

239 emcesq  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:45:36pm

Could this just be by design to appeal for traffic by the particular group? Sort of "serve 'em what they like"? Internet popularity, adevertising, and whatever follows from that? Which am not sure is all that much...

Yo do have to admire the thought process, though!

(just in case \)

240 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:46:29pm

re: #238 shiplord kirel

My early exposure to gunfire, explosions, and Huey rotor noise probably gave me an especially strong aversion to it, but I really think the need to be surrounded by noise is a compulsion associated with low intelligence and cultural poverty.

Not a Metal fan, eh?

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:46:51pm
242 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:25pm

re: #233 reloadingisnotahobby

You are a conniving, evil, loathsome human being. And I really like that.

243 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:30pm

re: #234 Walter L. Newton

I'm not joking.

To each their own, I suppose...

244 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:47:53pm

re: #229 Gus 802

New Orleans Police badge.

OMG!!1 NEW ORLEANS WAS A SEEKRIT MOOSLIM STAGING BASE!!111 THE ILLUMINATI USED THEIR HURRICANE MACHINE TO COVER UP THE EVIDENCE!!!111

/Alex Jones

245 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:48:03pm

Speaking of space, anyone here use this awesome app?

WorldWide Telescope

246 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:48:03pm

re: #20 brookly red

the thought that any foreign power would spend the time & money to develop a missile that could hit us when they could just wrap the bomb in cocaine & waltz it across the border is truly delusional...

I got downdinged recently for suggesting that; except I didn't phrase it the same way./

However I think the point is that missiles are not directed at the USA, but at places that are a few minutes flight away, and that applies to N. Korea as well as Iran.

247 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:48:38pm

re: #242 swamprat

248 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:48:58pm

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Damn, for some reason I can't get the link to his Wiki page to work. He's a Fair tax loon with some revisionist version of WWI. He's a kook, you can take him seriously if you want to.
/We're Dooom! Ron Paul! Konstitushun!

You're playing fast and loose with the sarc.

He's definitely a contrarian but far from being an idiotarian.

His Wiki page is here:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

249 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:49:38pm

thread broke

250 MittDoesNotCompute  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:02pm

re: #226 shiplord kirel

How screwed up is my family? I could not stay at my new house tonight because of a gas leak that will not be fixed until tomorrow. My mother said it would be ok if I stayed over there. I went over and ate dinner with her. At 7:30, she went into her room, turned her TV up so loud you could hear it on the street (literally), and promptly went to sleep just 8 feet from the blaring monster. She is 85 but not hard of hearing at all.
The remote is nowhere to be found (I think she is on top of it) and I cannot see the controls without turning on the light and waking her up. It is loud enough to keep me awake everywhere in the house. I gave up, got my laptop, and went to a motel. I remember she and my stepfather used to do this when my wife and I were visiting and it was one reason we stopped staying with them when we were in town. In contrast, she is the very soul of consideration if anyone but me is staying there.
When I was a teacher, and later a housing officer, I had a lot of occasion to visit the homes of poor people. There was almost invariably a TV blasting away at wake-the-dead levels in the living room, usually with a crowd of children crying and screaming in an effort to be heard over it. I am absolutely convinced that many low income children do poorly in school not because their own TV watching is a distraction, but because their parent's TV habits (and other forms of noise addiction) make it impossible to study or concentrate in close quarters.

Far be it from me to interject anything about your mother, but she sounds like a bit of a bitch (or, at the very least, inconsiderate as hell) towards you...

251 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:17pm

re: #249 swamprat

Wasn't me.....

252 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:18pm
253 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:21pm

re: #249 swamprat

thread broke

Space time? Whoopsie....

254 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:38pm

re: #0 ryannon

First comment "0" (zero) ever!

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:50:58pm

re: #252 Gus 802

And may God bless him.

256 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:51:03pm

re: #233 reloadingisnotahobby

I would have left evidents of violent abduction...
Then gone to a hotel...
I'm a stinker...

It's just as well that I can't and don't have a stock of hand grenades around. Everytime some yob came down the street with his car rattling and booming from the alleged music he listens to, I would be tempted to run out to him, yell "You like 'em loud, asshole? Here's you some loud!" and toss a grenade into the front seat.

257 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:51:12pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Cpl. Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
1987-2009
Bronze Star
Purple Heart
Operation Iraqi Freedom

Headstone with crescent moon and star at Arlington National Cemetery.

Correction. That should read 1987-2007.

258 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:51:26pm

re: #245 Varek Raith

Speaking of space, anyone here use this awesome app?

WorldWide Telescope

Wow! Favorited.

259 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:51:47pm

re: #237 Decatur Deb

Worked about an hour ago.

Nope. This has been going on for days now.

Try it. Search for a popular song. In the address bar, you will see not a simple URL as in the past, but a longish thing including the word "playnext". When your chosen version is done, it'll start playing another one.

Fookin' annoying.

260 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:02pm

re: #258 Stanley Sea

Wow! Favorited.

stalker

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:40pm

re: #260 SpaceJesus

Nice karma there, spacey!

262 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:46pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Cpl. Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
1987-2009
Bronze Star
Purple Heart
Operation Iraqi Freedom

Headstone with crescent moon and star at Arlington National Cemetery.

When I left the Army, there were 11,000 potential CPL Kahn's.

263 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:52:53pm

re: #260 SpaceJesus

stalker

Okay, Mr Positive Karma!
:P

264 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:00pm

re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And that's okay.

Thank you... it was hard at first, admitting in public that I didn't like The Princess Bride. I use to stalk in alley's, making little gestures to a passer by, trying to get someone's attention. If they noticed me, I would whisper... "I hate The Princess Bride."

I eventually found an agency that worked with social misfits, those of us who didn't like all the popular movies that Hollywood would throw out at us, week on week, relentlessly, and expecting our undivided devotion.

It took time, but the agency was good at this. There were group sessions, one on ones with certain DVD's and a 24 hour crisis hot line we could call if we felt tempted to put down a current movie.

They threw me out. They couldn't help me. I was a failure. The hairs still stand up on the back of my neck every time I think of all those Woody Allen movies they kept showing us... telling us... "You like Woody Allen, you like Woody Allen."

I fell good about myself though... I can stand tall now. I don't have to hover in dark alleys and dank hallways, hoping someone will come by so I could exert my personal opinion. I can shout it out to the world now...

I HATE THE PRINCESS BRIDE.

265 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:44pm

barack obama is a kenyan muslim marxist usurper

266 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:53:55pm

re: #260 SpaceJesus

stalker

Not yet. Don't push me Jesus.

267 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:01pm

re: #259 Cato the Elder

Nope. This has been going on for days now.

Try it. Search for a popular song. In the address bar, you will see not a simple URL as in the past, but a longish thing including the word "playnext". When your chosen version is done, it'll start playing another one.

Fookin' annoying.


I'm getting a momentary "an error occurred" message then it goes back to normal. I think Youtubes is boobed.

268 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:04pm

re: #264 Walter L. Newton

Thank you... it was hard at first, admitting in public that I didn't like The Princess Bride. I use to stalk in alley's, making little gestures to a passer by, trying to get someone's attention. If they noticed me, I would whisper... "I hate The Princess Bride."

I eventually found an agency that worked with social misfits, those of us who didn't like all the popular movies that Hollywood would throw out at us, week on week, relentlessly, and expecting our undivided devotion.

It took time, but the agency was good at this. There were group sessions, one on ones with certain DVD's and a 24 hour crisis hot line we could call if we felt tempted to put down a current movie.

They threw me out. They couldn't help me. I was a failure. The hairs still stand up on the back of my neck every time I think of all those Woody Allen movies they kept showing us... telling us... "You like Woody Allen, you like Woody Allen."

I fell good about myself though... I can stand tall now. I don't have to hover in dark alleys and dank hallways, hoping someone will come by so I could exert my personal opinion. I can shout it out to the world now...

I HATE THE PRINCESS BRIDE.

Could you let us know why?

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:07pm

re: #264 Walter L. Newton

"Inconceivable!"
-Vizzini

270 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:16pm

re: #226 shiplord kirel

At 7:30, she went into her room, turned her TV up so loud you could hear it on the street (literally), and promptly went to sleep just 8 feet from the blaring monster. She is 85 but not hard of hearing at all.

My dad does this too. He is 91.

271 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:18pm

re: #265 SpaceJesus

barack obama is a kenyan muslim marxist usurper

Upding for trying!

272 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:46pm

re: #265 SpaceJesus

barack obama is a kenyan muslim marxist usurper

lol Don't dig that positive karma? Ok, I'll comply!

273 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:54:57pm

re: #271 Varek Raith

Upding for trying!


ppffft

274 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:55:11pm

re: #254 swamprat

First comment "0" (zero) ever!

I'm impressed (I guess).

A sure sign of End-Times.

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:55:30pm

You can certainly tell who the writers are at LGF.

"Some people have a way with words. Others have ... uh ... not way."
-Steve Martin

276 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:55:33pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

Knowing that you have a problem is the first step.
The second step is knowing that the problem is that the rest of the world are idiots.

277 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:55:35pm

re: #273 SpaceJesus

ppffft

I'm eeevil! What'd ya expect?!
:)

278 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:08pm

re: #259 Cato the Elder

Nope. This has been going on for days now.

Try it. Search for a popular song. In the address bar, you will see not a simple URL as in the past, but a longish thing including the word "playnext". When your chosen version is done, it'll start playing another one.

Fookin' annoying.

Worked under FireFox/Linux. Are you Googling all the way to "Videos"?

279 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:17pm

re: #265 SpaceJesus

barack obama is a kenyan muslim marxist usurper

No, he's just an underachieving first timer who had high hopes for himself. Reality caught him off guard. He may recover, he may go down in flames. Being prez is a tough job.

280 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:56:34pm

re: #265 SpaceJesus

barack obama is a kenyan muslim marxist usurper

Too obvious. You can't just breitbart the gaffney and get a downding.

281 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:07pm

re: #278 Decatur Deb

Worked under FireFox/Linux. Are you Googling all the way to "Videos"?

Not googling at all. Using YouTube. It's all fucked up.

282 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:57pm

re: #280 jaunte

Too obvious. You can't just breitbart the gaffney and get a downding.

Awww come on... He has a reputation to keep up.

283 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:57:59pm

re: #280 jaunte

Too obvious. You can't just breitbart the gaffney and get a downding.

breitbart the gaffney? Stealing that!
;)

284 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:23pm

re: #262 Decatur Deb

When I left the Army, there were 11,000 potential CPL Kahn's.

Found three more.

Major James Michael Ahearn

Captain Humayun S. M. Khan

Staff Sergeant Ayman A. Taha

RIP

285 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:39pm

re: #281 Cato the Elder

It's been funky, I must admit. But it seems sporadic. Some work and some don't.

286 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:43pm

re: #281 Cato the Elder

287 Bear  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:58:47pm

re: #257 Gus 802

I thought that all Cross and Star of David symbols were removed from US National Cemeteries. So how come this symbol?

288 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:59:13pm

re: #283 Varek Raith

Breitbarting the gaffney sounds like a nautical exercise.

289 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:59:42pm

re: #287 Bear

I thought that all Cross and Star of David symbols were removed from US National Cemeteries. So how come this symbol?

Totally untrue, there are about 40 approved symbols. Will provide.

290 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:59:44pm

re: #281 Cato the Elder

Not googling at all. Using YouTube. It's all fucked up.


Are you starting to get the feeling that it's your reality that is fucked up, yet?

291 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 7:59:59pm

re: #287 Bear

I thought that all Cross and Star of David symbols were removed from US National Cemeteries. So how come this symbol?

There's a headstone with a cross right behind that one.

292 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:00:20pm

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Totally untrue, there are about 40 approved symbols. Will provide.

Here are the approved emblems.

293 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:00:48pm

re: #176 swamprat

It is an outdated book of political satire, turned into a children's fable.

Says the rodent of unusual size.

294 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:01:35pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Here are the approved emblems.

They have an atheist one. Looks like an atom!

295 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:01:59pm

i think the new space missile defense logo should be a picture of my putting my foot up breitbart's ass

296 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:14pm

re: #294 marjoriemoon

They have an atheist one. Looks like an atom!

Yep, it does.

297 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:16pm

*my = me

298 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:49pm

re: #295 SpaceJesus

i think the new space missile defense logo should be a picture of my putting my foot up breitbart's ass

^This is what nets you positive karma.
;)

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:02:54pm

re: #287 Bear

Nah...

300 Bear  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:03:09pm

OK guess my memory is bad.

301 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:03:46pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Here are the approved emblems.


Hell yeah!

302 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:03:59pm
303 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:04:28pm

re: #232 Cato the Elder

Can someone tell me what the HELL has happened to YouTube?

You can't seem to get single videos anymore, just effin' playlists. And the URLs don't post properly in LGF anymore.

Is there a way to fix this and set it to work the way it used to, or is it like Facebook - you get used to a layout and they "improve" it beyond all usability?

I'm getting both single vids and playlists returned with my searches in FF.

304 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:53pm

re: #250 talon_262

Far be it from me to interject anything about your mother, but she sounds like a bit of a bitch (or, at the very least, inconsiderate as hell) towards you...

I was born out of wedlock (though my parents later married) and my family has regarded me as the black sheep and the secret shame they would like to hide in the attic ever since. I learned to deal with it decades ago, but it is still a source of anger and sometimes of ironic amusement. These people have no idea that they are the ones who seem ridiculous to the larger world.
My idiot EMT cousin once made a disparaging remark about my doctorate to a member of Congress, no less, who knew me personally ("he ain't a real doctor, ya know, hahahoha!"). The Congressman went blank then looked at me and rolled his eyes as if to say, "Where the hell did that one come from?" The cousin was utterly oblivious to the fact that he had just made a major ass of himself in public. He also cost himself a job he wanted here, but he was even more oblivious to that.

305 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:56pm

re: #303 The Sanity Inspector

I'm getting both single vids and playlists returned with my searches in FF.

Thick as a Brick

306 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:05:58pm

re: #248 ryannon

Ferguson claims Germany was Europe’s most anti-militarist country)[14
...
Ferguson claims Germany posed no threat to Britain before 1914, and that all British fears of Germany were due to irrational anti-German prejudices)
...
Another controversial aspect of the Pity of War was Ferguson's use of counterfactual history. Ferguson presented a counter-factual version of Europe under Imperial German domination that was peaceful, prosperous, democratic and without ideologies like Communism and fascism[27]. In Ferguson's view, had Germany won World War One, then the lives of millions would have been saved, something like the European Union would have been founded in 1914, and Britain would have remained an empire and the world's dominant financial power[27]. .
....
Replacing the personal income tax, corporate income tax, FICA payroll tax, estate tax, and gift tax with a 33% Federal Retail Sales Tax (FRST), plus a monthly rebate, amounting to the FRST a household with similar demographics would pay if its income were at the poverty line. See also: FairTax;
....


...etc
Loon and historical revisionist. But since he's predicting the end of America the wingnuts all of a sudden think he's a genius. Good luck with that. I hope it doesn't work out for you.

307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:06:05pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Scientology not shown because of copyright?

CURSE YOU TOM CRUISE!

308 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:07:25pm

re: #300 Bear

OK guess my memory is bad.

They still use it. Might not be the old style where the Star of David was cut in stone as was the Crucifix. Now they're all rectangular with the approved emblem on top.

Here's the highest ranking Jewish veteran buried at Arlington: Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda, United States Navy, Chief of Naval Operations.

309 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:07:27pm

re: #284 Gus 802

Found three more.

Major James Michael Ahearn

Captain Humayun S. M. Khan

Staff Sergeant Ayman A. Taha

RIP

For those who have fallen:

310 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:05pm

re: #292 Gus 802

Here are the approved emblems.

That's interesting, and the "not shown because of copyright" is kind of amusing. Does that mean each headstone needs a separate copyright waiver?

Also, I was curious why there are no Scientologists included.
Scientology

311 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:07pm

re: #304 shiplord kirel

Yep, there are no illegitimate children, only illegitimate parents. Hope things have smoothed over in the intervening years for your family.

312 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:09pm

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Totally untrue, there are about 40 approved symbols. Will provide.

VA approved list

[Link: www.cem.va.gov...]

313 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:24pm

re: #307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scientology not shown because of copyright?

CURSE YOU TOM CRUISE!

It's an open ...empty wallet....Your wallet!

314 keloyd  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:40pm

Speaking of the Youtube machine- Suppose some nefarious character posts the entire series of Yes, Minister or Jeeves and Wooster, (which they have.) Am I pirating that intellectual property if I watch it there? The posting person may be, but the watcher? I'm guessing not.

For the record, I have both series on legit DVD, but I'm just lazy.

315 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:08:56pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

For those who have fallen:


[Video]

And also...

316 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:10:21pm

re: #307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scientology not shown because of copyright?

CURSE YOU TOM CRUISE!

The copyright is how they stifle anyone from criticizing them--can't quote secret texts.

317 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:10:44pm

re: #310 Naso Tang

That's interesting, and the "not shown because of copyright" is kind of amusing. Does that mean each headstone needs a separate copyright waiver?

Also, I was curious why there are no Scientologists included.
Scientology

I'm curious. That might mean they just don't show it on the approved emblem graphic but allow it on the headstone.

318 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:22pm

re: #294 marjoriemoon

They have an atheist one. Looks like an atom!

Makes heads explode.

319 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:23pm

re: #307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scientology not shown because of copyright?

CURSE YOU TOM CRUISE!

I don't think that's scientology - but Christ Scientist. Might be wrong.

320 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:33pm

re: #308 Gus 802

They still use it. Might not be the old style where the Star of David was cut in stone as was the Crucifix. Now they're all rectangular with the approved emblem on top.

Here's the highest ranking Jewish veteran buried at Arlington: Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda, United States Navy, Chief of Naval Operations.

Sadly, Admiral Boorda came to a bad end: He killed himself after it was revealed that the V-device (for valor) on some of his medals had not beeen authorized. He had added the V-device, there was no mix-up.

321 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:34pm

re: #304 shiplord kirel

re: #317 Gus 802

For a price Gus..For a price!

322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:35pm

Oops... Church of Christ Scientist.

Not Scientology.

Moonies?

323 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:11:59pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

33% sales tax would be crazy recessive. I guess Niall Ferguson has bought everything he's going to buy.

324 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:12:16pm

re: #316 The Sanity Inspector

The copyright is how they stifle anyone from criticizing them--can't quote secret texts.

Yea, but you can download them from the internet lol

325 reloadingisnotahobby  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:12:19pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

Yup...you are wrong Tom is Scientology

326 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:13:22pm

re: #308 Gus 802

They still use it. Might not be the old style where the Star of David was cut in stone as was the Crucifix. Now they're all rectangular with the approved emblem on top.

Here's the highest ranking Jewish veteran buried at Arlington: Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda, United States Navy, Chief of Naval Operations.

Many Jewish war veterans prefer to be buried in a Jewish cemetery and not a military one.

BTW, the only Jewish military cemetery in the world outside of Israel is located in... Virginia.

327 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:13:40pm

re: #320 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, Admiral Boorda came to a bad end: He killed himself after it was revealed that the V-device (for valor) on some of his medals had not beeen authorized. He had added the V-device, there was no mix-up.

Yeah, I saw that. I'm sure it had more to do then the v-device and more likely clinical depression.

328 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:13:57pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

...etc
Loon and historical revisionist. But since he's predicting the end of America the wingnuts all of a sudden think he's a genius. Good luck with that. I hope it doesn't work out for you.

I sincerely hope it doesn't work out either. But I still like to know what the competition is thinking. It's my first brush with him whereas you seem to be well-acquainted. Which is fine, and thank you for the fine-focus.

Oh, and what's with the "I hope it doesn't work out for you" sekreet 5th column innuendo? I thought you were above low-level snark such as that.

329 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:14:52pm

re: #327 Gus 802

Yeah, I saw that. I'm sure it had more to do then the v-device and more likely clinical depression.

Quite likely, but the medal scandal was the trigger event. Very sad story.

330 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:15:02pm

Oh, gosh. Look at the time!

G'night knuckleheads.

331 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:15:07pm

re: #323 jaunte

33% sales tax would be crazy recessive. I guess Niall Ferguson has bought everything he's going to buy.

"Fair Tax" is an instant sign of lunacy or stupidity. I'm guessing he's loony.

332 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:15:35pm

re: #287 Bear

I thought that all Cross and Star of David symbols were removed from US National Cemeteries. So how come this symbol?

Now just where on earth did you get that idea?

Teh aytheeyists are killin' Christmas, too.

333 Killgore Trout  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:15:50pm

re: #328 ryannon

I thought you were above low-level snark such as that.


Think again, brainiac.

334 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:10pm

re: #324 marjoriemoon

Yea, but you can download them from the internet lol

Time magazine did a cover story on what a dangerous cult of vicious swindlers they are, and spent the next ten years in court. The author of this expose' was driven into bankruptcy.

335 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:19pm

re: #333 Killgore Trout

Think again, brainiac.

Bad night, eh?

336 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:54pm

re: #327 Gus 802

Yeah, I saw that. I'm sure it had more to do then the v-device and more likely clinical depression.

I think I remember the loss of his son.

337 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:16:57pm

re: #286 ryannon

That's uncanny. One of the single vids I wanted to post here the other day, but got a stupid playlist instead, was by the Louvin Brothers.

ZOMFG!

338 RadicalModerate  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:17:16pm

Bret Swanson, when not being a fake analyst for the Discovery Institute and pushing Intelligent Design has a new gig - being a fake analyst for the major telco carriers in an attempt to kill Net Neutrality. Why? Because if it passes, then the Net Neutrality skeptics will all lose their jobs!

9 Out Of 10 Fake Scientists Agree: Neutrality Means Job Losses

339 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:17:16pm

re: #317 Gus 802

I'm curious. That might mean they just don't show it on the approved emblem graphic but allow it on the headstone.

I think it is just another CYA lawyer advice, but on a more serious note, there are plenty of Hatians in the US. How come no Voodoo symbol? I believe it's a headless chicken.

340 Bear  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:17:17pm

Looked up Google and my error must have been due to first reports about ACLU suit coupled with the suit to remove Cross from Mojave area.

341 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:17:24pm

re: #326 Alouette

Many Jewish war veterans prefer to be buried in a Jewish cemetery and not a military one.

BTW, the only Jewish military cemetery in the world outside of Israel is located in... Virginia.

There's a link there to the Wild West. There's a Jewish cemetery in Boot Hill Cemetery, Tombstone, AZ behind all the famous burials. Pretty groovy.

342 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:17:44pm

re: #252 Gus 802

Cpl. Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan
1987-2009
Bronze Star
Purple Heart
Operation Iraqi Freedom

Headstone with crescent moon and star at Arlington National Cemetery.

Repeated for emphasis. God be good to him.

343 ryannon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:18:20pm

re: #337 Cato the Elder

That's uncanny. One of the single vids I wanted to post here the other day, but got a stupid playlist instead, was by the Louvin Brothers.

ZOMFG!

String theory. It's all explained.

344 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:18:43pm

re: #341 marjoriemoon

There's a link there to the Wild West. There's a Jewish cemetery in Boot Hill Cemetery, Tombstone, AZ behind all the famous burials. Pretty groovy.

Wyatt Earp is buried in a Jewish cemetery.

345 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:19:29pm

Good evening everyone. I'm just passing through. Listening to the Holmes Brothers. My band opened for them last night and it was a kick ass gig.

346 The Sanity Inspector  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:19:42pm

re: #337 Cato the Elder

That's uncanny. One of the single vids I wanted to post here the other day, but got a stupid playlist instead, was by the Louvin Brothers.

ZOMFG!

Now, videos disappear all the time, you know. You might be getting a playlist of suggested results because the one you found the other day is gone now. That's why if you see one you love, snag that rascal with something like keepvid.com or a utility like GetIt.

But if the video you want is in the playlist, you should be able to trim the url down to just the video's unique addy.

347 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:20:49pm

re: #346 The Sanity Inspector

Now, videos disappear all the time, you know. You might be getting a playlist of suggested results because the one you found the other day is gone now. That's why if you see one you love, snag that rascal with something like keepvid.com or a utility like GetIt.

But if the video you want is in the playlist, you should be able to trim the url down to just the video's unique addy.

Tried that last bit six ways from Sunday and couldn't make it work.

348 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:21:12pm

re: #334 The Sanity Inspector

Time magazine did a cover story on what a dangerous cult of vicious swindlers they are, and spent the next ten years in court. The author of this expose' was driven into bankruptcy.

Oh don't get me started with the Scientologists. Definitely a dangerous cult. About 15-20 years ago, before the WWW, some Scientology defectors posted all the Sea Org stuff online in text files. I downloaded it at the time. You're supposed to die if you read it and are not cleared for that thetan level. Ah well...

349 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:21:17pm

re: #342 SanFranciscoZionist

Repeated for emphasis. God be good to him.

Yes. I was a little reluctant to bring them up in this context but it sheds light on the fact that we have veterans buried at Arlington that display the star and crescent of those that died for their country.

350 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:21:34pm

re: #344 Alouette

Wyatt Earp is buried in a Jewish cemetery.

Yea, but I don't think he's buried in Boot Hill.

351 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:22:54pm

re: #337 Cato the Elder

That's uncanny. One of the single vids I wanted to post here the other day, but got a stupid playlist instead, was by the Louvin Brothers.

ZOMFG!

The first time I heard the Louvin Brothers it was on a now defunct public radio bluegrass/country show. I thought they were the "Lubin Brothers." I have cousins named Lubin and that's my mother's maiden name. I thought there were Jewish bluegrass/country musicians for a while.

352 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:23:01pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

I don't think that's scientology - but Christ Scientist. Might be wrong.

According to Tom Wolfe in the Right Stuff, the Christian Scientists were highly regarded in the Navy in particular before the 1970s. He didn't explain why.

The approved symbols are obviously discriminatory since they do not include a Cthulhu symbol or the Asimovian Spaceship and Sun.

353 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:23:10pm

re: #349 Gus 802

Yes. I was a little reluctant to bring them up in this context but it sheds light on the fact that we have veterans buried at Arlington that display the star and crescent of those that died for their country.

Breitbart et al won't touch that....I hope.

354 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:23:50pm

re: #353 Stanley Sea

Breitbart et al won't touch that...I hope.

I doubt it.

355 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:25:35pm

re: #351 Mad Al-Jaffee

The first time I heard the Louvin Brothers it was on a now defunct public radio bluegrass/country show. I thought they were the "Lubin Brothers." I have cousins named Lubin and that's my mother's maiden name. I thought there were Jewish bluegrass/country musicians for a while.

One of my favorite Louvin Bros. songs, covered by Emmylou Harris:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

356 Ojoe  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:10pm
357 Altermite  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:21pm

Anyone ever played the live-action game assassins? Holy paranoia inducing.

358 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:50pm

re: #344 Alouette

Wyatt Earp is buried in a Jewish cemetery.

I thought that linked looked familiar! My mom sent me the one about the Texas rabbi. Another cool story.

[Link: www.jewish-history.com...]

359 WindHorse  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:26:55pm

....and another fallen hero.... 19-year old Cpl. Eric Ward... Feb 21 in Afghanistan..... RIP man.... you died too young.

360 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:27:16pm

re: #351 Mad Al-Jaffee

The first time I heard the Louvin Brothers it was on a now defunct public radio bluegrass/country show. I thought they were the "Lubin Brothers." I have cousins named Lubin and that's my mother's maiden name. I thought there were Jewish bluegrass/country musicians for a while.

Like that famous Jewish-Irish folk group, The Lubliners.

361 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:27:48pm

re: #355 Cato the Elder

One of my favorite Louvin Bros. songs, covered by Emmylou Harris:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I went to middle school with Emmylou Harris' daughter! Didn't know anything about Emmylou back then.

362 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:03pm

re: #348 marjoriemoon

Oh don't get me started with the Scientologists. Definitely a dangerous cult. About 15-20 years ago, before the WWW, some Scientology defectors posted all the Sea Org stuff online in text files. I downloaded it at the time. You're supposed to die if you read it and are not cleared for that thetan level. Ah well...

Do Scientologists still go around suing everybody who disses them on the Internet, or is the genie out of that bottle for keeps?

363 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:17pm

re: #336 Decatur Deb

I think I remember the loss of his son.

Sad. He started out from the very bottom as a Seaman Apprentice.

364 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:38pm

re: #362 Alouette

Do Scientologists still go around suing everybody who disses them on the Internet, or is the genie out of that bottle for keeps?

Yea, I think they do.

365 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:28:52pm

re: #352 shiplord kirel

According to Tom Wolfe in the Right Stuff, the Christian Scientists were highly regarded in the Navy in particular before the 1970s. He didn't explain why.

The approved symbols are obviously discriminatory since they do not include a Cthulhu symbol or the Asimovian Spaceship and Sun.

My memory thinks that Christ Scientist were the people who don't do blood transfusions? Contrary to the Scientist part of the name?

I'm looking up, may be way off base here.

Yeah, that's them, maybe not that extreme according to wiki:

The Christian Science Church does not forbid the use of medicine by its members. An exception is the case of Christian Science Centers which may require certain employees to sign a statement of principles. Though Christian Scientists respect the work of medical practitioners, most of them prefer to use prayer and to rely on God. Christian Scientists who choose to rely on medical treatment for a specific problem normally give up Christian Science treatment for the period of treatment. This is because one treatment approaches healing from a material and the other from a spiritual perspective. Because the method of prayer includes denying the reality of matter and affirming the perfection of the individual – while medicine is used to fix matter and a person with a problem – these two means are seen as incompatible and indeed as tending to work against each other when used simultaneously. Most Christian Scientists are practical when it comes to using material aids such as vision correction, splints for broken bones, and dental services, and will use what seems appropriate at the time. However, numerous claims of healings of near- and far-sightedness, dental problems and broken bones have been reported in the periodicals published by the Church.[12]

Christian Science

366 Decatur Deb  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:29:43pm

re: #360 Cato the Elder

Like that famous Jewish-Irish folk group, The Lubliners.

The Prodigals have recorded with the Klezmatics--not on YouTube. (As if you could work it.)

367 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:29:45pm

re: #348 marjoriemoon

Oh don't get me started with the Scientologists. Definitely a dangerous cult. About 15-20 years ago, before the WWW, some Scientology defectors posted all the Sea Org stuff online in text files. I downloaded it at the time. You're supposed to die if you read it and are not cleared for that thetan level. Ah well...

Their headquarter is in Clearwater, just a few miles up the road from us. Personally I don't see them much except downtown Clearwater where their Sea Org staff are walking around in uniforms, but there is a long standing feud between them and the St. Petersburg Times who do regular specials on them; and the Scientologists spend a lot of time and money doing counter propaganda. I had a (junk) mail piece from them recently which was almost the size of the daily paper and one had to read past the front page to realize who it was from.

Professional sleaze in the best/worst traditions of American politics.//

368 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:31:49pm

re: #362 Alouette

Do Scientologists still go around suing everybody who disses them on the Internet, or is the genie out of that bottle for keeps?

Post your name and address and find out./

369 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:00pm

re: #359 WindHorse

...and another fallen hero... 19-year old Cpl. Eric Ward... Feb 21 in Afghanistan... RIP man... you died too young.

Farewell hero, and may angels sing thee to thigh rest.

370 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:31pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

They don't believe in doctors and medicine. It's all faith healing.

In the late 60's, my mom had a Christian Scientist family in her Head Start class. The parents asked my mother if she could give their son something else to do when she read about doctors and hospitals. She complied with no problem. I assumed the other kids would want to "sit it out" too, but they actually liked the stories! So there was never any conflicts.

371 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:44pm

re: #366 Decatur Deb

The Prodigals have recorded with the Klezmatics--not on YouTube. (As if you could work it.)

There's a few Jewish people who have influenced music over the years. Like the Chess brothers.

372 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:47pm

re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee

I went to middle school with Emmylou Harris' daughter! Didn't know anything about Emmylou back then.

Was the daughter as hot as the mama?

373 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:32:56pm

what free image host does lgf support?

374 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:33:31pm

re: #370 marjoriemoon

They don't believe in doctors and medicine. It's all faith healing.

In the late 60's, my mom had a Christian Scientist family in her Head Start class. The parents asked my mother if she could give their son something else to do when she read about doctors and hospitals. She complied with no problem. I assumed the other kids would want to "sit it out" too, but they actually liked the stories! So there was never any conflicts.

The name including "Scientist" always confused me. I mean, why??

375 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:33:42pm

re: #367 Naso Tang

Their headquarter is in Clearwater, just a few miles up the road from us. Personally I don't see them much except downtown Clearwater where their Sea Org staff are walking around in uniforms, but there is a long standing feud between them and the St. Petersburg Times who do regular specials on them; and the Scientologists spend a lot of time and money doing counter propaganda. I had a (junk) mail piece from them recently which was almost the size of the daily paper and one had to read past the front page to realize who it was from.

Professional sleaze in the best/worst traditions of American politics.//

Oh yes, I've read a lot about them in the SPT. I feel bad for you :(

376 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:35pm

so this is what the new space defense logo should be

Image: spacejesus1.jpg

377 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:36pm

Charles are you there. I got an email from the stalker blog, the one that illegally published my whole Harris essay with out my permission. Do you know who Bunk Strutts is?

378 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:47pm

re: #370 marjoriemoon

Wow. Can't even hear about medicine let alone use it!

I wonder where that kid is now, if alive?

379 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:34:48pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

The name including "Scientist" always confused me. I mean, why??

That is a head scratcher, isn't it.

380 Obdicut  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:35:14pm

re: #309 Dark_Falcon

Those are wonderful stories. Sad as hell, but I'm glad their stories are told with such care.

381 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:35:19pm

re: #372 Cato the Elder

Was the daughter as hot as the mama?

She was pretty cute back then. Long time ago.

382 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:35:31pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

The name including "Scientist" always confused me. I mean, why??

Ever hear of creation science?/

383 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:36:14pm

re: #378 Naso Tang

Wow. Can't even hear about medicine let alone use it!

I wonder where that kid is now, if alive?

I'll have to ask my mom about him. She had some of Larry Holmes' siblings in her class. I was raised in Easton, PA.

384 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:37:21pm

re: #368 Naso Tang

Post your name and address and find out./

My real name:

Joan Smith
100 Main Street
Anytown, USA.
[no phone numbers allowed]

385 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:37:29pm

re: #376 SpaceJesus

so this is what the new space defense logo should be

[Link: img191.imageshack.us...]

Get 'em, SJ. Is that Breitbart you're blasting? I know I see Glen Beck and Nirthy Spice.

386 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:37:38pm

re: #382 Naso Tang

Ever hear of creation science?/

Ah, it's a trick!

387 shiplord kirel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:37:46pm

re: #365 Stanley Sea

Mark Twain was a contemporary of Christian Science founder Mary Baker Eddy and carried on a kind of private war with her and her followers for years.

388 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:38:11pm

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

Get 'em, SJ. Is that Breitbart you're blasting? I know I see Glen Beck and Nirthy Spice.

yes, yes it is.

389 jaunte  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:39:22pm

re: #374 Stanley Sea

The name including "Scientist" always confused me. I mean, why??

Mary Baker Eddy believed in occultism, clairvoyance, spiritual healing, positive thinking and homeopathic medicine. She blended it all into what she called Christian Science.

390 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:39:34pm

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

Get 'em, SJ. Is that Breitbart you're blasting? I know I see Glen Beck and Nirthy Spice.

Nirthy Spice?? LOL OMG that's funny.

391 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:39:34pm

re: #382 Naso Tang

Ever hear of creation science?/

With which Christian Scientists have absolutely no truck, smart guy.

Because they are not biblical literalists, and because they regard the material world as fundamentally unreal, Christian Scientists have no intellectual problem with the theories of contemporary geology, cosmology, or biology--for example in regard to the origin of mankind, the literal occurrence or non-occurrence of a worldwide flood, or indeed the age of the earth itself. (However, they sometimes object to detailed descriptions of disease, as tending to reinforce the symptoms described in the consciousness of the viewer or listener, with the consequent danger of externalizing these mental images on the body as physical symptoms.) Christian Science periodicals occasionally cite developments in cosmology and physics as indicating how contemporary science is coming to an understanding of the illusory nature of time and materiality.

Christian Scientists are neither creationists nor biblical literalists. They regard the story of the creation in the Book of Genesis as having symbolic rather than literal meaning. However, Eddy also believed that the theory of evolution wrongly portrayed man as mortal rather than spiritual: "Theorizing about man's development from mushrooms to monkeys and from monkeys into men amounts to nothing in the right direction and very much in the wrong." Thus, from the Christian Science point of view, both creationism and evolution are false as they both proceed from a belief in the reality of a material universe.

Christian Scientists, however, do not oppose the teaching of evolution in schools, nor do they demand that alternative accounts be taught: they believe that both material science and literalist theology are concerned with the illusory and mortal rather than the real and immortal.

392 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:39:44pm

Did yesterday's column by Frank Rich get any notice here?

The Axis of the Obsessed and Deranged

No one knows what history will make of the present — least of all journalists, who can at best write history’s sloppy first draft. But if I were to place an incautious bet on which political event will prove the most significant of February 2010, I wouldn’t choose the kabuki health care summit that generated all the ink and 24/7 cable chatter in Washington. I’d put my money instead on the murder-suicide of Andrew Joseph Stack III, the tax protester who flew a plane into an office building housing Internal Revenue Service employees in Austin, Tex., on Feb. 18. It was a flare with the dark afterlife of an omen.
[...]
Representative Steve King, Republican of Iowa, even rationalized Stack’s crime. “It’s sad the incident in Texas happened,” he said, “but by the same token, it’s an agency that is unnecessary. And when the day comes when that is over and we abolish the I.R.S., it’s going to be a happy day for America.” No one in King’s caucus condemned these remarks. Then again, what King euphemized as “the incident” took out just 1 of the 200 workers in the Austin building: Vernon Hunter, a 68-year-old Vietnam veteran nearing his I.R.S. retirement. Had Stack the devastating weaponry and timing to match the death toll of 168 inflicted by Timothy McVeigh on a federal building in Oklahoma in 1995, maybe a few of the congressman’s peers would have cried foul.

[...]

The entire column is about the dangers of the Tea Partiers, the JBS, etc in modern politics. Makes one wonder if Mr. Rich has been reading LGF>

393 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:40:08pm

re: #384 Alouette

My real name:

Joan Smith
100 Main Street
Anytown, USA.
[no phone numbers allowed]

That's enough for those guys. If you see any men with sunglasses after dark, you're done for.

394 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:40:51pm

re: #377 Walter L. Newton

Charles are you there. I got an email from the stalker blog, the one that illegally published my whole Harris essay with out my permission. Do you know who Bunk Strutts is?

I believe the real name may be Strunk Butts. Or Struts Bunk.

395 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:41:07pm

re: #387 shiplord kirel

Mark Twain was a contemporary of Christian Science founder Mary Baker Eddy and carried on a kind of private war with her and her followers for years.

Interesting - thanks!

396 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:41:12pm

re: #386 Stanley Sea

Ah, it's a trick!

Who the hell knows? I doubt even they do.

397 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:42:36pm

re: #308 Gus 802

They still use it. Might not be the old style where the Star of David was cut in stone as was the Crucifix. Now they're all rectangular with the approved emblem on top.

Here's the highest ranking Jewish veteran buried at Arlington: Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda, United States Navy, Chief of Naval Operations.

With stones left by mourners.

398 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:42:51pm

re: #389 jaunte

Mary Baker Eddy believed in occultism, clairvoyance, spiritual healing, positive thinking and homeopathic medicine. She blended it all into what she called Christian Science.

Kind of like a home grown Madame Blavatsky

399 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:43:39pm

re: #394 Cato the Elder

I believe the real name may be Strunk Butts. Or Struts Bunk.

OK, then. Skunk Butt it is!

400 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:43:43pm

re: #319 Stanley Sea

I don't think that's scientology - but Christ Scientist. Might be wrong.

No, Tom Cruise is a Scientologist.

Christian Scientists are far more normal, at least by American religious standards, which are already kind of weird.

401 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:44:00pm

re: #398 Alouette

Kind of like a home grown Madame Blavatsky

But saner. Mark Twain mocked the heck out of Mrs. Eddy, but was actually a fan.

402 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:44:17pm

Well of course it so blindingly obvious, I can't imagine why everyone doesn't see this as obvious evidence of Obama's sekrit muslim conspiracy.

///geez these people are completely nuts...

403 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:44:31pm

re: #392 freetoken

Did yesterday's column by Frank Rich get any notice here?

The Axis of the Obsessed and Deranged

The entire column is about the dangers of the Tea Partiers, the JBS, etc in modern politics. Makes one wonder if Mr. Rich has been reading LGF>

This was an excellent column. Thanks for posting it here.

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:45:37pm

re: #344 Alouette

Wyatt Earp is buried in a Jewish cemetery.

Yup, in Colma, alongside his Josephine.

405 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:45:37pm

re: #394 Cato the Elder

I believe the real name may be Strunk Butts. Or Struts Bunk.

Funny funny. I suspect the name is not real, but I thought maybe Charles would know something about it. I sent the email on to Charles. It has an email address that may be traceable in Charles database.

406 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:47:49pm

re: #350 marjoriemoon

Yea, but I don't think he's buried in Boot Hill.

"They say he isn't fit to be buried."

"In Boot Hill? There's no one up there but old cutthroats and barflies, and if they ever felt exclusive, brother, they're past it now."

"They happened to be white, friend, and Old Sam was an Indian. Now I don't like it, no sirree. I've always treated every man just the same, as just another future customer."

"Well, I'll be. How long has this been going on?"

"Ever since the the town got civilized."

407 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:48:19pm

Spiritualism...


circa 1930's or thereabouts

408 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:48:55pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

Funny funny. I suspect the name is not real, but I thought maybe Charles would know something about it. I sent the email on to Charles. It has an email address that may be traceable in Charles database.

I'd just call him Butthurt Skunk and be done with it. Once again the stalkers show they have no class. Walter does all the heavy lifting and they try to pirate his work. Wonder if we can make them walk the plank?

409 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:50:02pm

You know, everybody here is partying and laughing, telling jokes, making puns, as if this were just an ordinary topic, when in fact the boojums and panjandrums and above all the mmmooosssllliiimmmsss, masters of the sneaky logo-juju, are this close to taking over.

Personally I believe it's time once again for some imprecatory prayers.

410 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:51:50pm

re: #391 Cato the Elder

With which Christian Scientists have absolutely no truck, smart guy.

Well, I applied a little spin there, but then what are they doing using the word, as was asked by Stanley?

The story from MarjorieM is classical fundamentalism taken from any perspective, as are the cases of children dying because parents won't take them to doctors.

There are exceptions to every case, but the usage of the word science strikes me as a ploy to allow them to pick and choose the "science" that they want while pretending to embrace "most" of it.

No different from creation science it seems, except that they focus on different details.

It's kind of like religion built from legos. You can pick and choose whatever colors and sizes feel good to you.

411 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:52:05pm

re: #409 Cato the Elder


I will sacrifice a poodle when Osiris wans.

412 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:52:31pm

re: #377 Walter L. Newton

Charles are you there. I got an email from the stalker blog, the one that illegally published my whole Harris essay with out my permission. Do you know who Bunk Strutts is?

Thanks for forwarding it.

That creep was banned from LGF after posting the anti-semitic USS Liberty conspiracy theory in this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The name he used here was 'Bunk.'

These are the kind of evil-minded psychos who hang out at the stalker blog.

413 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:52:42pm

re: #408 Dark_Falcon

I'd just call him Butthurt Skunk and be done with it. Once again the stalkers show they have no class. Walter does all the heavy lifting and they try to pirate his work. Wonder if we can make them walk the plank?

Well... who ever, he says they are all rooting for me over at their blog, yet if you find the page where they published my full climate change essay, you will find hateful comment being passed about me all down the thread.

Wow... I wonder how they root for people they really hate?

414 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:54:20pm

re: #410 Naso Tang

Well there's no patent on the word science, which comes from Latin "scio - I know", so I guess you'll just have to stare 'em down or something.

415 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:04pm

re: #414 Cato the Elder

Good one.

Goodnight.

416 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:20pm

re: #377 Walter L. Newton

Charles are you there. I got an email from the stalker blog, the one that illegally published my whole Harris essay with out my permission. Do you know who Bunk Strutts is?

Profile here.

Website is called tackyraccoons.com

I'm pretty sure you know how to use this.

417 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:33pm

re: #412 Charles

Thanks for forwarding it.

That creep was banned from LGF after posting the anti-semitic USS Liberty conspiracy theory in this thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

The name he used here was 'Bunk.'

These are the kind of evil-minded creeps who hang out at the stalker blog.

Now that you linked me to that thread, I certainly remember him and that thread.

I'm tempted to put his email to me and my replies right here, tonight... yes?

418 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:39pm

re: #413 Walter L. Newton

Well... who ever, he says they are all rooting for me over at their blog, yet if you find the page where they published my full climate change essay, you will find hateful comment being passed about me all down the thread.

Wow... I wonder how they root for people they really hate?

They make insinuations about killing your dog.

419 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:55:39pm

re: #411 swamprat

I will sacrifice a poodle when Osiris wans.

What a Santería poodle might look like.

God I love that image.

420 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:56:16pm

re: #413 Walter L. Newton

Well... who ever, he says they are all rooting for me over at their blog, yet if you find the page where they published my full climate change essay, you will find hateful comment being passed about me all down the thread.

Wow... I wonder how they root for people they really hate?

You are still posting here, and they hate that. Coolest blog on the web and they only get to watch. Daddy won't take them back.

421 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:57:45pm

I think people these days are comfortable publishing randomly-chosen streams of words, and sticking the word "Obama" in there somewhere. That passes for commentary.

Honestly, it sort of pisses me off that I have not been able to parlay my damn-near endless capacity for dumb-assery into a high-paying gig on the AM dial, or at least the Fox News Channel.

422 Charles Johnson  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 8:58:26pm

re: #417 Walter L. Newton

Now that you linked me to that thread, I certainly remember him and that thread.

I'm tempted to put his email to me and my replies right here, tonight... yes?

No problem with me. Post away.

423 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:01:36pm

I don't understand, are their really that many people afraid of their own shadow out there? 9/11 seems to have really unbalanced some people (not that the media isn't actively helping, "breast implant bombs" recieveing airtime now, sheesh.)

It isn't like we didn't kill several thousand of them in retaliation for every one of us they killed, (although not necessarily the responsible ones.)

We have entered the twilight light zone of politics and national defense discourse where the plots from "24" are more real and frightening to people than actuality. When was it that we became a nation of simpering cowards?

424 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:03:04pm

re: #423 ausador

Couldn't you find a broader brush?

425 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:03:13pm

The Machine

Dark and trippy.

426 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:03:56pm

re: #418 Cato the Elder

They make insinuations about killing your dog.

Or they talk about killing you personally. Ben-Zachariah did that again today, after Imploder went stalker. He brought up the charge that I advocated his daughter's murder (which I did not do, though my word were poorly chosen, I meant no threat to any person) and said it was a capital offense. I'm not really worried, but its disturbing to see how they fixate.

427 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:05:14pm

From: Bunk ****
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 8:16 PM
To: newton****
Subject: LGF Commentary

Walter--

As an ex-lizard, I've gotta commend you for your recent posts and repostes, especially regarding AGW, and for sticking to your guns. You've got guts.

Although I'm not an admin, feel free to stop by Blogmocracy and post comments under a different moniker. We're rooting for you. I for one don't want to see you get the banning stick as you're one of the last great sentient logical commenters in The Village.

Cordially,

Bunk X

P.S. Blogmocracy, i.e, "The Stalker Website" is nothing like what Charles describes. All we do is mock his hypocrisy and watch the food fights.Coupla commenters are kinda out there, but there's no walking on eggshells, and very few scuffles. Old time LGF, if you get the drift.
----
From: Walter L. Newton
Subject: RE: LGF Commentary
To: "'Bunk
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 3:43 AM

Really, you’re all rooting for me? Here are some of the comments posted under my essay, which by the way, was illegally posted there to begin with. It was not a Fair Use excerpt, it was the whole fucking essay.

1) Walter may be right on this issue, but he is still an ass.
2) I think the worse part about it was the amount of groveling and sniveling he had to do to even be allowed to post it in the comments.
3) Chen–I agree. I kinda feel sorry for Walter. He seems a thoughtful guy even if he can be a jerk sometimes. I used to laugh at some of his comments because he seems real–not a cardboard cutout like a few posters over there.
4) i have no respect or sympathy for anyone still over there.
5) Portly Playwright vs Chubby Jazz artist!
6) what is walter planning on doing with the 250 LGF calendars that he ordered?
7) As for Walter, it’s pretty obvious that he thinks AGW is bs, but he’s too afraid to just say so.
8) Yeah Walter is scared of a Jazz Artist.

You must be an absolute fool thinking that I would have any desire to hang around a bunch of cry babies who will stab me in the back BEFORE I even join your blog. What do you think you are doing? You need someone new to bat around like a fucking basketball. This is only a handful of the snide-assed comments I found, and that was on the thread that dealt with my essay.

As you say below, I got guts. And I am sticking to my guns, and managing to get my point across about my concerns in regards to climate science and other issues on LGF. And if you really want to post something of mine without my permission, post this email, and your email, word for word.

Rooting for me… you lying sack of shit.

Walter L. Newton

---
(cont)

428 swamprat  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:05:47pm

re: #421 negativ

Go and get any "Air America" script, and where ever you see the word "Bush", cross it out and say "Obama".

The script is the same.
The hysteria is the same.
Only the name has changed.
And those who used to yell meaningless talking points, now must listen to the same mindless verbiage they, themselves, were spouting only a few election cycles ago.


A round-de-ley of rhetoric, if you will.

429 lostlakehiker  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:05:51pm

Obama, unlike say Carter, has arrows as well as olive branches in his repertoire. What if we do get into a war with Iran? What if we get into a nuclear war with Iran?

This sort of loose and fevered talk forgets that he's who we've got for president. There won't be any Plan B. While spiking his misguided and counterproductive health care takeover may be necessary and wise, spiking his presidency across the board is dangerous. Trying to spike it across the board, and failing, is stoopid.

430 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:06:51pm

(cont)

From: Bunk
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:06 PM
To: Walter L. Newton
Subject: RE: LGF Commentary

Walter--

I thought I was being cordial enough, although I can't vouch for other commenters, as even Charles Johnson can't be held accountable for irrational vitriol. Your post was lifted and posted on Blogmocracy because it was worth reading. Johnson has set his site up to prevent some blogs from linking directly to his posts/comments.

I meant no offense, other than to give you kudos. Apparently you are unable to accept a tip of the hat, and you've got some problems that are well concealed.

Cordially,

Bunk X

---

From: Walter L. Newton
Subject: RE: LGF Commentary
To: "'Bunk
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 4:32 AM

So,

Your whole reply below is a deflection, a dishonest answer in which you don’t even attempt to address anything I pointed out to you.

“Worth reading” is not a reason that would ever stand up in court for stealing a 25 hundred word essay without permission and publishing it.

Anyone wanting to find my essay on LGF could have done it with no problem.

I didn’t ask you to “vouch” for any other commenter’s on your blog. I was simply pointing out to you the bullshit that was being said about me.

I really don’t care if you were being cordial, if you were giving me kudos or what ever. I showed you the true colors of the blog that you represented to me in you email. Would you like to be invited to a blog that made comments about you like that, behind your back, and in regards to something you wrote that you didn’t even know was lifted from you and published?

Nothing is concealed. I am not anonymous, I use my real name, my real phone number is available to anyone who wants it on my website, for a matter of fact, I am quite the bit the shameless self promoter. Since you imply you know what and how I write on LGF, then you should have known before you even attempted to email me that I would not be taken in by your childish invite.

No, nothing is concealed, never was, never will be.

Maybe this email exchange will show up on your blog, or someplace else. You never know where it may show up.

Walter L. Newton

---
Walter--

I appreciate your position, and I think I understand why you were offended. I'll restate that I thought your comments with references were excellent, regardless of what Charles or anyone else said. I forwarded them to other fellow bloggers also.

Blogmocracy is not my blog. I'm a minor sarcastic snarky commenter at best, and the admins have published only two posts of mine out of only two submitted. I'll forward these emails (unedited except to put them in chronological order) to the admins for a future post, with your permission.

Cordially,

Bunk X

431 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:07:31pm

Another good NYT article is this one, which details one of the more important decisions President Obama will make to date:

White House Is Rethinking Nuclear Policy

[...]

Any compromise wording that leaves in place elements of the Bush-era pre-emption policy, or suggests the United States could use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear adversary, would disappoint many on the left wing of his party, and some arms control advocates.

“Any declaration that deterring a nuclear attack is a ‘primary purpose’ of our arsenal leaves open the possibility that there are other purposes, and it would not reflect any reduced reliance on nuclear weapons,” said Daryl G. Kimball, the executive director of the Arms Control Association. “It wouldn’t be consistent with what the president said in his speech in Prague” a year ago, when he laid out an ambitious vision for moving toward the elimination of nuclear weapons.

Mr. Obama’s base has already complained in recent months that he has failed to break from Bush era national security policy in some fundamental ways. They cite, for example, his stepped-up use of drones to strike suspected terrorists in Pakistan and his failure to close the Guantánamo Bay detention facility by January as Mr. Obama had promised.

[...]

432 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:08:30pm

re: #424 Cato the Elder

Couldn't you find a broader brush?

I looked but Walmart was all out of Chinese made "Ultra broad spectrum brushes", I had to settle for a "standard spectrum" brush.

/

433 What, me worry?  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:09:58pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

Oooo you go Walter!

434 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:11:29pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

So Lizards... this is the kind of bullshit that goes on. I've never even been over there until someone emailed me after I posted my essay here and informed me that the essay was published in full over at the other place. That evening was the first time I visited.

And then, two weeks later, I get the emails you saw above.

These are the kind of people that want you to come over and play. If you like the idea of being stabbed in the back, go for it.

I rarely agree with Charles on much of anything lately. And most Lizards here know who agrees with who, and what kind ofd debate one will get from each other on this subject or that subject.

But at least the majority of us are honest and in the open about things.

Not like the little children who send emails like the ones above.

435 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:12:37pm

re: #434 Walter L. Newton

Stay safe my friend. There's crazy out there.

436 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:14:25pm

re: #435 Racer X

Stay safe my friend. There's crazy out there.

Crazy still takes guts, which they are sorely lacking.

437 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:14:46pm

re: #434 Walter L. Newton

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

So Lizards... this is the kind of bullshit that goes on. I've never even been over there until someone emailed me after I posted my essay here and informed me that the essay was published in full over at the other place. That evening was the first time I visited.

And then, two weeks later, I get the emails you saw above.

These are the kind of people that want you to come over and play. If you like the idea of being stabbed in the back, go for it.

I rarely agree with Charles on much of anything lately. And most Lizards here know who agrees with who, and what kind ofd debate one will get from each other on this subject or that subject.

But at least the majority of us are honest and in the open about things.

Not like the little children who send emails like the ones above.

You're one of the good ones, Walter. Honest, honorable and well informed.

438 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:17:44pm
439 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:18:22pm

re: #434 Walter L. Newton

Oh you do quite well holding up your end. That's what makes this place OK.

440 WindHorse  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:18:29pm

a slow groove....

441 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:19:20pm

re: #430 Walter L. Newton

what exactly do you want from them then

442 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:19:39pm

And Rodan is now calling me Pink Flamingo, and asking others to out me. So I, who has never tried to reveal the real identity of anyone on the net, am now to be outed for agreeing with Walter when he tells the truth. Stay classy, Rodan.

443 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:20:00pm

re: #439 Stanley Sea

Oh you do quite well holding up your end. That's what makes this place OK.

I try.

444 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:21:27pm

re: #441 SpaceJesus

what exactly do you want from them then

I don't understand your comment? Clarify?

445 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:22:40pm

re: #444 Walter L. Newton

I don't understand your comment? Clarify?


ie, do you want them to remove your essay from their website?

446 wee fury  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:24:05pm

re: #440 WindHorse

a slow groove...


[Video]

Nice.

447 avanti  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:26:10pm

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

And Rodan is now calling me Pink Flamingo, and asking others to out me. So I, who has never tried to reveal the real identity of anyone on the net, am now to be outed for agreeing with Walter when he tells the truth. Stay classy, Rodan.

At least Walter gave them something to talk about this evening.

448 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:28:24pm

re: #445 SpaceJesus

ie, do you want them to remove your essay from their website?

I haven't told them to do anything with it, put it up, take it down, whatever. That was not the thrust of my replies to Bunk. I wanted to let him/them know that I thought it was absurd that they would want me frequenting their blog, when they have spent so much time dumping on me.

I have never spent a minute on their blog, and I have no desire to correspond with them, talk to them or argue with them. It was this Bunk idiot who contacted me. That was the first time I had ever heard from anyone on that blog.

They put the essay up illegally. Can I, will I do anything about it. That's for me to know and for them to find out. I am a published playwright, well versed in what I can and can't do about pilfered material. They should take it down, the whole thread.

Does that answer you question.

449 WindHorse  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:28:53pm

....and another.... just because it is the last day of February.

450 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:30:03pm

re: #447 avanti

At least Walter gave them something to talk about this evening.

And another chance to rip on Chuckles the Jazz Guitarist.

As though being a jazz guitarist were some kind of disease.

Most of those guys would appear to have trouble playing a tune on their one-note flute with the aid of a Jenny McCarthy sex video.

451 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:32:31pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

They put the essay up illegally. Can I, will I do anything about it. That's for me to know and for them to find out. I am a published playwright, well versed in what I can and can't do about pilfered material. They should take it down, the whole thread.

yeah, this is pretty much what i was wondering.

452 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:32:40pm

re: #442 Dark_Falcon

Well, I've been gone for a week, and the stalkers seem to have activated.
SIGH.
Stay safe, all. That's the most important thing.

453 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:34:06pm

re: #447 avanti

At least Walter gave them something to talk about this evening.

Yeah, its like running a fish agitator through the fever swamp and watching the carp jump into the air.

454 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:34:28pm

re: #453 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, its like running a fish agitator through the fever swamp and watching the carp jump into the air.

I HATE FISH.

455 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:35:40pm

re: #437 Dark_Falcon

You're one of the good ones, Walter. Honest, honorable and well informed.

As long as you buy into the Walter Show, yes.

Walter is a Drama Queen. It's all about Walter. It gets boring.

Sorry if you disagree, DF, but his passive aggressive stance on anyone who disagrees with him (on, say, AGW, or down dinging some of his outrageous comments), makes me yawn. Being a self-proclaimed Mr. Cranky Pants doesn't give you the right hijack threads.

456 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:36:18pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

Walter, you rock, IMHO.

457 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:37:04pm

re: #450 Cato the Elder

And another chance to rip on Chuckles the Jazz Guitarist.

As though being a jazz guitarist were some kind of disease.

Most of those guys would appear to have trouble playing a tune on their one-note flute with the aid of a Jenny McCarthy sex video.

You do have a way with words, sir!

458 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:38:51pm

re: #448 Walter L. Newton

Something tells me the stalkers will be sorry they messed with you, Walter.

459 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:40:15pm

re: #455 austin_blue

As long as you buy into the Walter Show, yes.

Walter is a Drama Queen. It's all about Walter. It gets boring.

Sorry if you disagree, DF, but his passive aggressive stance on anyone who disagrees with him (on, say, AGW, or down dinging some of his outrageous comments), makes me yawn. Being a self-proclaimed Mr. Cranky Pants doesn't give you the right hijack threads.

Hey Austin... are you aware of what has been going on, or are you just jumping in here and shooting off your mouth sight unseen.

How about reading #427 and 430 and Charles' comments about this subject before you owe me an apology.

460 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:41:05pm

re: #455 austin_blue

As long as you buy into the Walter Show, yes.

Walter is a Drama Queen. It's all about Walter. It gets boring.

Sorry if you disagree, DF, but his passive aggressive stance on anyone who disagrees with him (on, say, AGW, or down dinging some of his outrageous comments), makes me yawn. Being a self-proclaimed Mr. Cranky Pants doesn't give you the right hijack threads.

So he's a drama queen, so am I at times. And I've been around way too much passive aggressive in real life for it to bother me. I like Walter, and I think you're wrong about him, but I also hold you in good regard.

461 elizajane  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:41:08pm

Some ill-paid graphic designer somewhere is laughing his/her head off.

462 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:46:41pm

re: #455 austin_blue

As long as you buy into the Walter Show, yes.

Walter is a Drama Queen. It's all about Walter. It gets boring.

Sorry if you disagree, DF, but his passive aggressive stance on anyone who disagrees with him (on, say, AGW, or down dinging some of his outrageous comments), makes me yawn. Being a self-proclaimed Mr. Cranky Pants doesn't give you the right hijack threads.

You should be so lucky to have Walter for a friend.

463 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:49:31pm

re: #459 Walter L. Newton

Hey Austin... are you aware of what has been going on, or are you just jumping in here and shooting off your mouth sight unseen.

How about reading #427 and 430 and Charles' comments about this subject before you owe me an apology.

Walter, I read them, and again it is all about the Walter Show. Building yourself into something you can never be.

Relevant.

You are a not very good actor who will never be relevant. Otherwise, you would be a *good* actor, of worth. You work in a ReStore for God's sakes.

You were the dweeb in school who got picked on. You were the last kid picked for the dodge ball team. You turned to drugs and alcohol to assuage your pain and then got clean (Good for you!). But don't try to make yourself something you are not.

I owe you no apology. You are a lost soul.

464 SpaceJesus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:50:23pm

re: #458 Dark_Falcon


as much as i'd like to see stalkerblog get sued for something, i think walter doesn't have a whole lot to go on here.

465 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:50:39pm

re: #463 austin_blue

Walter, I read them, and again it is all about the Walter Show. Building yourself into something you can never be.

Relevant.

You are a not very good actor who will never be relevant. Otherwise, you would be a *good* actor, of worth. You work in a ReStore for God's sakes.

You were the dweeb in school who got picked on. You were the last kid picked for the dodge ball team. You turned to drugs and alcohol to assuage your pain and then got clean (Good for you!). But don't try to make yourself something you are not.

I owe you no apology. You are a lost soul.

Oh, ok... good... you read them and you understand... then you'll understand this...

Bite me!

466 Racer X  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:51:46pm

ME!

This thread should be about me dammit! Stop talking about Walter!

/

467 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:52:10pm

re: #463 austin_blue

That was perhaps the shittiest, meanest, ugliest little post I've seen here since Charles called for the bickering to end. Not the last time he called for that, but the first one. Approximately two years ago.

Congratulations, you just went in my scrollover file.

468 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:53:01pm

re: #464 SpaceJesus

as much as i'd like to see stalkerblog get sued for something, i think walter doesn't have a whole lot to go on here.

Well, for the sake of other, I am not going to lay out the defense for them. Like I mentioned above, that's not a main concern, none of this was really any concern. I've never bothered with anyone over there until tonight when I got the unsolicited email. They are certainly not worth a whole lot of attention.

469 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:53:28pm

re: #465 Walter L. Newton

Oh, ok... good... you read them and you understand... then you'll understand this...

Bite me!

Ah! A riposte! A major hit! Tis not as deep as a well, nor as wide as a barn door, but 'twill serve!

470 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:54:01pm

re: #409 Cato the Elder

You know, everybody here is partying and laughing, telling jokes, making puns, as if this were just an ordinary topic, when in fact the boojums and panjandrums and above all the mmmooosssllliiimmmsss, masters of the sneaky logo-juju, are this close to taking over.

Personally I believe it's time once again for some imprecatory prayers.

Cato, I have been reading "The eighth continent" a tale of life, death & discovery in the lost world of Madagascar".
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
and the Malagasy are full of poetry, puns, and parables! "When men fight by the light of the moon, the bald ones are sure to be hit", "If a rooster does not crow, it is because it has been eaten".
I don't know WHEN I've enjoyed a book this much!

471 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:54:53pm

re: #467 Cato the Elder

That was perhaps the shittiest, meanest, ugliest little post I've seen here since Charles called for the bickering to end. Not the last time he called for that, but the first one. Approximately two years ago.

Congratulations, you just went in my scrollover file.

Thanks...

472 WindHorse  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:56:13pm

re: #463 austin_blue

....As if you would know anything about "soul"...

Ha-ha...

You're an asshole.

473 wee fury  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:56:16pm

Every time I see the word 'stalker' -- I think of a bunch of celery.

474 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:57:19pm

re: #467 Cato the Elder

That was perhaps the shittiest, meanest, ugliest little post I've seen here since Charles called for the bickering to end. Not the last time he called for that, but the first one. Approximately two years ago.

Congratulations, you just went in my scrollover file.

Cato-

I deeply respect you and the majority of the Lizards on this board, but Walter has just been increasingly rubbing me the wrong way of late. I will apologize to you and the rest of this board, but not to him. If I cannot speak freely, then neither can you (as you have done, with great courage, lately).

475 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:57:35pm

re: #469 austin_blue

Romeo and Juliet, Act 3 Scene 1. That having been said, you're out of line Austin. Walter was talking about a problem with a bunch of stalkers whom we all oppose, and you jumped on him. It was insulting and hostile, and you were wrong to do it.

476 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:58:59pm

re: #472 WindHorse

...As if you would know anything about "soul"...

Ha-ha...

You're an asshole.

Why?

477 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:59:07pm

re: #474 austin_blue

Cato-

I deeply respect you and the majority of the Lizards on this board, but Walter has just been increasingly rubbing me the wrong way of late. I will apologize to you and the rest of this board, but not to him. If I cannot speak freely, then neither can you (as you have done, with great courage, lately).

You can obviously speak freely. But you use your freedom ill.

478 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 9:59:32pm

re: #474 austin_blue

Cato-

I deeply respect you and the majority of the Lizards on this board, but Walter has just been increasingly rubbing me the wrong way of late. I will apologize to you and the rest of this board, but not to him. If I cannot speak freely, then neither can you (as you have done, with great courage, lately).

And Austin, please details... what have I been "rubbing" you with. Be specific. Your anger demands specific examples of what the heck are you talking about.

If I have been smart-assed to you lately, I want to know what/when it was.

479 simoom  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:00:32pm

Saw this linked over at digg:
Image: a39_22348225.jpg
It's a great Afghanistan photo of a US soldier interacting with a little girl (from the Boston Globe).

480 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:00:43pm

Look, this is over-quoted, but there is still much truth to it.

Little minds talk about people (ahem),
Mediocre minds talk about events,
Great minds talk about ideas.

(Yeah, yeah, obviously a great mind would have no trouble congratulating someone or praising them, etc.)

481 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:00:59pm

re: #479 simoom

Saw this linked over at digg:
[Link: inapcache.boston.com...]
It's a great Afghanistan photo of a US soldier interacting with a little girl (from the Boston Globe).

Aww. That's cute.

482 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:01:28pm
483 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:01:37pm

Austin Blue confuses a string of schoolyard insults with debate.

I wonder if he learned that from his dad in Arlington.

484 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:01:43pm

re: #479 simoom

Saw this linked over at digg:
[Link: inapcache.boston.com...]
It's a great Afghanistan photo of a US soldier interacting with a little girl (from the Boston Globe).

Awesome. Just what I needed to see.

Other folks - LOOK!!

485 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:02:13pm

re: #475 Dark_Falcon

Romeo and Juliet, Act 3 Scene 1. That having been said, you're out of line Austin. Walter was talking about a problem with a bunch of stalkers whom we all oppose, and you jumped on him. It was insulting and hostile, and you were wrong to do it.

And I was talking about his tendency for hijacking threads and making it all about Walter. I'll take the karma hits. But his passive aggressive bullshit is bullshit.

486 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:04:05pm

re: #480 EmmmieG

Look, this is over-quoted, but there is still much truth to it.

Little minds talk about people (ahem),
Mediocre minds talk about events,
Great minds talk about ideas.

(Yeah, yeah, obviously a great mind would have no trouble congratulating someone or praising them, etc.)

Awesome quote!

487 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:04:06pm

re: #482 iceweasel

New column!

"Ask Mr. "Get A Brain! Morans!"

Good stuff. Evening, ice. Careful walking in. Austin Blue jumped on Walter a little while ago and got downdinged for it.

488 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:04:49pm

re: #478 Walter L. Newton

And Austin, please details... what have I been "rubbing" you with. Be specific. Your anger demands specific examples of what the heck are you talking about.

If I have been smart-assed to you lately, I want to know what/when it was.

Me? Not me. It's the board in general. Again, you go passive/aggressive. It's just blah blah blah. The poor aggrieved Walter Show. Yawn.

489 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:05:27pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Good stuff. Evening, ice. Careful walking in. Austin Blue jumped on Walter a little while ago and got downdinged for it.

Yeah, my post was a "hey let's all look over here" diversion from that. simoon beat me to it.

490 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:06:19pm

re: #477 Cato the Elder

You can obviously speak freely. But you use your freedom ill.

Freedom is the right to speak your mind.
Whatever you think.
Among other things.
Aren't we BLESSED to have freedom of speech?
If you don't appreciate this freedom, stop & think about living elsewhere in today's world. Forget the past, just look at today & be very, very thankful for where you are in this world.

491 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:06:33pm

re: #485 austin_blue

And I was talking about his tendency for hijacking threads and making it all about Walter. I'll take the karma hits. But his passive aggressive bullshit is bullshit.

At least there's nothing passive about your aggression. I can respect that, but you ought to read up on the fine art of insulting people before you bring it out in public.

492 RadicalModerate  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:07:01pm

Damn. First time for me to wander over to the stalker site to see what kind of people got the boot from here. Two things that I found interesting. First, in their blog cloud, Charles' name is the biggest keyword there. Kinda kills the argument that they aren't "stalkers" right off the bat. Second, right there on the main page they are talking in glowing terms about their correspondence with the f***ing white supremacist English Defense League.

As often as I'm in disagreement with Walter (on more than one subject), I'll give credit where it's due with him refusing to be associated with the likes of those.

493 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:08:07pm

Oh, look, a shiny distracting thing!

[Link: www.vancouver2010.com...]

494 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:08:58pm

re: #485 austin_blue

And I was talking about his tendency for hijacking threads and making it all about Walter. I'll take the karma hits. But his passive aggressive bullshit is bullshit.

So, we have a member of a stalker blog sending me an email, an email that makes snide-assed comments about LGF, Charles and the Lizards in general and is asking me to "come on over to their blog."

I send them a reply and they continue to make snide-assed remarks about LGF, Charles and the Lizards in general and not so much me this time.

So, I forward the email chain to Charles, and he sees no problem with me posting the email chain so the rest of the Lizards on this thread can see what kind of jerks are over there on the stalker blog.

And you say that I am hijacking the thread?

Austin, this is not a popularity contest, you get back what you put in. Over the last week, since I left my job at the thrift store, I have had a little more time the usual to sit here an post, and I make a good job of it.

If my repartee and subject matter interests other Lizards on a thread, what suddenly makes you the judge of whether I am getting too much attention. And it really is a slam on other Lizards, since it's not a one way street.

The Lizards respond to me, I respond to them, we agree, we disagree. Get involved, not mad.

495 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:09:54pm

re: #412 Charles

I went to the thread and read Bunk's comments. I clicked on a number of avatars and was amazed at how many former lizards are now blocked.

496 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:10:02pm

re: #493 EmmmieG

Oh, look, a shiny distracting thing!

[Link: www.vancouver2010.com...]

Isn't that what John said when he met Sarah?

497 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:10:11pm

re: #483 Cato the Elder

Austin Blue confuses a string of schoolyard insults with debate.

I wonder if he learned that from his dad in Arlington.

Low blow. What I learned from my father was straight talk without whining. The development of an argument without bringing in extraneous bullshit. Not being passive aggressive. Delving in facts, not unproven self-aggrandizing non-sequiters.

You know, classical debate.

498 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:10:51pm

So I just got round to reading this review of two bios of Ayn Rand. Now, I'm far from a fan of Rand (ahem), and I knew some things about her personal life but it was news to me that she was a great admirer of a certain serial killer. Yeesh.

499 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:11:32pm

re: #496 Cato the Elder

Isn't that what John said when he met Sarah?

Oh, no, you didn't!....
Dear, me, yes, you did!

So, what did Sarah say?
Enquiring minds want to know!

500 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:11:34pm

re: #497 austin_blue

Low blow. What I learned from my father was straight talk without whining. The development of an argument without bringing in extraneous bullshit. Not being passive aggressive. Delving in facts, not unproven self-aggrandizing non-sequiters.

You know, classical debate.

You have the gall to talk of low blows after your post to Walter?

And it's "sequitur", my semi-literate friend.

501 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:12:22pm

re: #498 iceweasel

So I just got round to reading this review of two bios of Ayn Rand. Now, I'm far from a fan of Rand (ahem), and I knew some things about her personal life but it was news to me that she was a great admirer of a certain serial killer. Yeesh.

What exactly is it that people admire about this woman, anyway?

Which serial killer?

502 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:12:48pm

re: #497 austin_blue

You still haven't answered my question. What have I personally done to you lately that has you so fucking mad? Tell me, and we can talk about it.

503 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:13:00pm

re: #498 iceweasel

So I just got round to reading this review of two bios of Ayn Rand. Now, I'm far from a fan of Rand (ahem), and I knew some things about her personal life but it was news to me that she was a great admirer of a certain serial killer. Yeesh.

Which one? I'm guessing Jack the Ripper.

504 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:13:49pm

re: #500 Cato the Elder

You have the gall to talk of low blows after your post to Walter?

And it's "sequitur", my semi-literate friend.

Nods and pulls forelock.

;-)

My grade school latin has turned into Senior Moments.

505 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:15:41pm

re: #503 Dark_Falcon

Which one? I'm guessing Jack the Ripper.

I'm thinking she might well have admired Loeb and Leopold, too.

Their interpretation of Nietzsche was roughly on a par with hers.

506 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:17:12pm

re: #505 Cato the Elder

I'm thinking she might well have admired Loeb and Leopold, too.

Their interpretation of Nietzsche was roughly on a par with hers.

William Edward Hickman

507 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:17:39pm

re: #494 Walter L. Newton

So, we have a member of a stalker blog sending me an email, an email that makes snide-assed comments about LGF, Charles and the Lizards in general and is asking me to "come on over to their blog."

I send them a reply and they continue to make snide-assed remarks about LGF, Charles and the Lizards in general and not so much me this time.

So, I forward the email chain to Charles, and he sees no problem with me posting the email chain so the rest of the Lizards on this thread can see what kind of jerks are over there on the stalker blog.

And you say that I am hijacking the thread?

Austin, this is not a popularity contest, you get back what you put in. Over the last week, since I left my job at the thrift store, I have had a little more time the usual to sit here an post, and I make a good job of it.

If my repartee and subject matter interests other Lizards on a thread, what suddenly makes you the judge of whether I am getting too much attention. And it really is a slam on other Lizards, since it's not a one way street.

The Lizards respond to me, I respond to them, we agree, we disagree. Get involved, not mad.

This thread? No. Many others? Yes. It's the Walter Show. How downtrodden you are!

508 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:18:42pm

re: #501 SanFranciscoZionist

What exactly is it that people admire about this woman, anyway?

Which serial killer?

Rand glorifies sociopathy. All her books and her 'philosophic' writings are a fifth-rate Nietzschean garbled Song of the SuperMan.
People admire her because she tells them that looking out for number one is the highest proof of morality.

20's murder William Hickman.

This alternet article, tho slightly unhinged, gives the goods on Hickman. It really is one of the most horrific crimes I've ever read about, so be warned.

Ayn Rand, Hugely Popular Author and Inspiration to Right-Wing Leaders, Was a Big Admirer of Serial Killer

Rand, whose philosophy developed out of her admiration for "Supermen" like Hickman. Rand's philosophy can be summed up by the title of one of her best-known books: The Virtue of Selfishness. She argues that all selfishness is a moral good, and all altruism is a moral evil, even "moral cannibalism" to use her words. To her, those who aren't like-minded sociopaths are "parasites" and "lice" and "looters."

But with Rand, there's something more pathological at work. She's out to make the world more sociopath-friendly so that people like Ayn and her hero William Hickman can reach their full potential, not held back by the morality of the "weak," whom Rand despised.

That's what makes it so creepy how Rand and her followers clearly get off on hating and bashing those they perceived as weak--Rand and her followers have a kind of fetish for classifying weaker, poorer people as "parasites" and "lice" who need to swept away. This is exactly the sort of sadism, bashing the helpless for kicks, that Rand's hero Hickman would have appreciated

509 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:19:56pm

re: #506 Walter L. Newton

William Edward Hickman

I was right about the Nietzsche angle.

From Wiki:

Rand scholars Chris Matthew Sciabarra and Jennifer Burns both interpret Rand's interest in Hickman as a sign of her early admiration of the ideas of Friedrich Nietzsche. Rand also expressed sympathy for Hickman, writing, "The first thing that impresses me about the case is the ferocious rage of a whole society against one man. No matter what the man did, there is always something loathsome in the 'virtuous' indignation and mass-hatred of the 'majority.'... It is repulsive to see all these beings with worse sins and crimes in their own lives, virtuously condemning a criminal..."

What a repulsive soul Rand possessed. Or was she possessed by it? In an case Nietzsche would have spat in her soup.

510 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:20:26pm

re: #505 Cato the Elder

I'm thinking she might well have admired Loeb and Leopold, too.

Their interpretation of Nietzsche was roughly on a par with hers.

Exactly. It's this guy William Hickman in the 20's. She also cribbed together her Neitzschean crap from newspaper accounts of the time. Leopold and Loeb would have been a natural for her, but she raves about this Hickman guy in her diaries, and uses some of the same language about him that she would later use in describing Howard Roark in the Fountainhead.

511 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:20:35pm

They already have an ad for a skating exhibition in my newspaper.

It takes a bundle to be a figure skater; I'm glad they got rid of the amateur rule. The normal process of aging limits their time anyway.

512 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:21:45pm

re: #507 austin_blue

This thread? No. Many others? Yes. It's the Walter Show. How downtrodden you are!

Then I cannot answer you any better than... this is not the way for this to become the Austin Blue Show. You need to reexamine your demographics, consider having someone new write you material and consider changing your time slot. It worked for Jay Leno.

And, if you need any punch up material, click on my name and email me and I will be glad to supply you with some funny, stock material that you can bring back to the thread and brighten up our day :)

513 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:22:30pm

re: #507 austin_blue

This thread? No. Many others? Yes. It's the Walter Show. How downtrodden you are!

I do believe I detect more jealousy than outrage in your detestation of Walter.

Given the quality of your contributions here, you have good reason to be jealous.

Don't ask me for examples, because I can't think of anything memorable you've ever said.

QED

514 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:23:06pm

re: #508 iceweasel


"If only, if only, society would crumble so people like me could be in charge..."

Most people like that would be done in by Hell's Angels with a good record of charitable contributions within the week.

515 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:24:14pm

re: #508 iceweasel

She was fan of a monster who murdered a 12-year old?! That settles matters for good: Ayn Rand was scum. I despise serial killers and their groupies are utterly bereft or all moral sense,

516 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:25:12pm

re: #514 SanFranciscoZionist

"If only, if only, society would crumble so people like me could be in charge..."

Most people like that would be done in by Hell's Angels with a good record of charitable contributions within the week.

One of the things that most struck me about that AlterNet article was Rand's fondness for describing the nonSuperMan types-- i.e., most of society-- in terms like 'parasites', 'lice', 'imitations of human beings'.

517 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:25:47pm

re: #500 Cato the Elder

You have the gall to talk of low blows after your post to Walter?

And it's "sequitur", my semi-literate friend.

Look, Walter is a twerp, a dweeb. A really smart guy who is still a fundamental failure in life. He's not a really good actor, or that would be a profession. He's not a really good programmer, or that would be his profession. He's a drunk, who cleaned his life up, and good for him! His reality is here, where he can be whatever he wants to be. Here, he can be the big cheese. The big kahuna. The Loyal Opposition. Make of that what you will.

518 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:26:29pm

re: #515 Dark_Falcon

She was fan of a monster who murdered a 12-year old?! That settles matters for good: Ayn Rand was scum. I despise serial killers and their groupies are utterly bereft or all moral sense,

If you read that Alternet article with the newspaper accounts of what that particular monster did-- the things for which Rand admired him-- that really does settle it once and for all that this is a sick, damaged woman.

519 bagua  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:27:43pm

What's that logo about, is it some sort of Muslim holiday today?

520 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:29:15pm

re: #501 SanFranciscoZionist

What exactly is it that people admire about this woman, anyway?

Which serial killer?

"Atlas Shrugged" is an absolute must read to see just how attractive sociopathy can be made to seem to the uninformed. All of her "captains of industry" are made out to be real living super heroes without whom civilization would come to an immediate grinding halt.

Any kind of taxation, regulation, or licensing for any activity that they wish to engage in is made to appear as the ultimate in degenerate evil. That is what they admire, that she could take a point of view that is so completely skewed and one-sided and make it seem reasonable and even heroic to so many.

Sigh...scary woman...

521 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:31:20pm

re: #513 Cato the Elder

I do believe I detect more jealousy than outrage in your detestation of Walter.

Given the quality of your contributions here, you have good reason to be jealous.

Don't ask me for examples, because I can't think of anything memorable you've ever said.

QED

Oh thpththtpthp

I'm not jealous Walter. How could anyone be jealous of Walter? He's impoverished.

522 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:32:51pm

re: #517 austin_blue

Austin_Blue, you have truly earned an asshole award tonight. Consider yourself on my shit list until you apologize. Your insults were without provocation and tact. Walter has done nothing wrong tonight and you jumped on him. Knock it the fuck off!

523 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:33:39pm

re: #520 ausador

Completely agree. From the AlterNet article:

The loudest of all the Republicans, right-wing attack-dog pundits and the Teabagger mobs fighting to kill health care reform and eviscerate "entitlement programs" increasingly hold up Ayn Rand as their guru. Sales of her books have soared in the past couple of years; one poll ranked "Atlas Shrugged" as the second most influential book of the 20th century, after The Bible.

So what, and who, was Ayn Rand for and against? The best way to get to the bottom of it is to take a look at how she developed the superhero of her novel, Atlas Shrugged, John Galt. Back in the late 1920s, as Ayn Rand was working out her philosophy, she became enthralled by a real-life American serial killer, William Edward Hickman, whose gruesome, sadistic dismemberment of 12-year-old girl named Marion Parker in 1927 shocked the nation. Rand filled her early notebooks with worshipful praise of Hickman. According to biographer Jennifer Burns, author of Goddess of the Market, Rand was so smitten by Hickman that she modeled her first literary creation -- Danny Renahan, the protagonist of her unfinished first novel, The Little Street -- on him.

This is from the Slate review of two bios of her:

For her longest novel, Atlas Shrugged (1957), Rand returned to a moment from her childhood. Just as her father once went on strike to protest against Bolshevism, she imagined the super-rich in America going on strike against progressive taxation—and said the United States would swiftly regress to an apocalyptic hellhole if the Donald Trumps and Ted Turners ceased their toil. The abandoned masses are described variously as "savages," "refuse," "inanimate objects," and "imitations of living beings," picking through rubbish. One of the strikers deliberately causes a train crash, and Rand makes it clear she thinks the murder victims deserved it, describing in horror how they all supported the higher taxes that made the attack necessary.

Her heroes are a cocktail of extreme self-love and extreme self-pity: They insist they need no one, yet they spend all their time fuming that the masses don't bow down before their manifest superiority.

524 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:34:18pm

re: #521 austin_blue

Oh thpththtpthp

I'm not jealous Walter. How could anyone be jealous of Walter? He's impoverished.

You have no idea about Walter's life.

I will tell you this: he has more kindness in his toenails than you have in your soul.

525 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:34:30pm

re: #521 austin_blue

Oh thpththtpthp

I'm not jealous Walter. How could anyone be jealous of Walter? He's impoverished.

Everybody's a dreamer, and everybody's a star,
And everybody's in show biz, it doesn't matter who you are.
There are stars in every city, in every house and on every street,
and if you walk down Hollywood Boulevard, their names are written in concrete.

526 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:35:44pm

re: #517 austin_blue

Look, Walter is a twerp, a dweeb. A really smart guy who is still a fundamental failure in life. He's not a really good actor, or that would be a profession. He's not a really good programmer, or that would be his profession. He's a drunk, who cleaned his life up, and good for him! His reality is here, where he can be whatever he wants to be. Here, he can be the big cheese. The big kahuna. The Loyal Opposition. Make of that what you will.

Suppose I concede your analysis--you got a problem with that? We're all who the hell we want to be on the Internet. As I remind people, occasionally, I may well be a thirteen-year-old boy escaping from his boring life in a Midwestern town by pretending to be a thirty-something female English teacher from California.

527 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:36:12pm

re: #524 Cato the Elder

You have no idea about Walter's life.

I will tell you this: he has more kindness in his toenails than you have in your soul.

That's good of you to say. When all is said and done, all this Walter bashing just strikes me as unnecessarily cruel.

Agree to disagree, move on.

528 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:36:33pm

re: #518 iceweasel

If you read that Alternet article with the newspaper accounts of what that particular monster did-- the things for which Rand admired him-- that really does settle it once and for all that this is a sick, damaged woman.

It's the inability to feel empathy that she seems to admire. Exalting sociopathy as a better human norm.

529 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:37:40pm

Good night, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.

530 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:38:19pm

Radical Islam is the enemy.

531 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:38:31pm

re: #521 austin_blue

Oh thpththtpthp

I'm not jealous Walter. How could anyone be jealous of Walter? He's impoverished.

I'm always amazed when someone I've enjoyed before - you Austin - goes so wacko on someone else here, without provocation. What the hell?

532 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:38:41pm

re: #525 Walter L. Newton

Everybody's a dreamer, and everybody's a star,
And everybody's in show biz, it doesn't matter who you are.
There are stars in every city, in every house and on every street,
and if you walk down Hollywood Boulevard, their names are written in concrete.

The most important "stars" are the people who shine in your heart. You think of them, and smile. What they gave you is forever. You should try, every day, to be a "star" for someone. You might be one!

I had the pleasure of hanging out with a couple of my "stars" over the past week. They make me a better person.

533 freetoken  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:38:58pm

re: #526 SanFranciscoZionist

... I may well be a thirteen-year-old boy escaping from his boring life in a Midwestern town by pretending to be a thirty-something female English teacher from California.

Umm... interesting fantasy life you have their, young man...

534 Bagua  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:39:07pm

re: #526 SanFranciscoZionist

Suppose I concede your analysis--you got a problem with that? We're all who the hell we want to be on the Internet. As I remind people, occasionally, I may well be a thirteen-year-old boy escaping from his boring life in a Midwestern town by pretending to be a thirty-something female English teacher from California.

I'm shocked and feel betrayed, I thought you taught history.

535 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:39:33pm

re: #530 Spare O'Lake

Radical Islam is the enemy.

Yes, it is. The logo has nothing to do with Islam, but the missile defenses it depicts will help protect us and our allies from Iran and their missiles.

536 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:39:59pm

OK, I'm done with the personal crap for tonight.

What were we talking about? Oh, right, nefarious logo-juju and Ayn Rand.

Speaking of whom, is it just coincidence that her early book covers are indistinguishable from Nazi/Soviet-style "heroic" realism?

537 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:40:22pm

re: #528 SanFranciscoZionist

It's the inability to feel empathy that she seems to admire. Exalting sociopathy as a better human norm.

Exactly. I spotted that in her books when I was a teenager; later when I read Nietzsche I knew she was pushing a cutrate version of Nietzsche. I knew Rand's 'philosophy' was sociopathic, and I knew something about her personal life later which led me to conclude she was emotionally disturbed.

Finding out she idolised a child-killer and based some of her heroes on him isn't entirely out of the blue, but still, uh, wow.

538 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:41:22pm

re: #522 Dark_Falcon

Austin_Blue, you have truly earned an asshole award tonight. Consider yourself on my shit list until you apologize. Your insults were without provocation and tact. Walter has done nothing wrong tonight and you jumped on him. Knock it the fuck off!

I will apologize to you, DF, but not to Walter. He is a passive aggressive shit stirrer.

If this makes you put me on your shit list, fine. But that would disappoint me. I thought more highly of your capacity for discretion.

539 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:41:28pm

re: #534 Bagua

I'm shocked and feel betrayed, I thought you taught history.

I have done so in the past. Or maybe young Kevin just forgot his background story.

;)

540 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:41:48pm

re: #535 Dark_Falcon

Yes, it is. The logo has nothing to do with Islam, but the missile defenses it depicts will help protect us and our allies from Iran and their missiles.

Which is really kind of the important part.

541 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:41:55pm

re: #536 Cato the Elder

So, what is it, that makes Ayn Rand appeal to the teenaged? She's had that appeal going for quite a while now....

542 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:42:07pm

re: #536 Cato the Elder

OK, I'm done with the personal crap for tonight.

What were we talking about? Oh, right, nefarious logo-juju and Ayn Rand.

Speaking of whom, is it just coincidence that her early book covers are indistinguishable from Nazi/Soviet-style "heroic" realism?

probably not, but IIRC her (american) husband was a painter and they used his paintings for some of the covers-- I'm not sure if it's the ones you linked, though.

543 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:42:54pm

re: #536 Cato the Elder

OK, I'm done with the personal crap for tonight.

What were we talking about? Oh, right, nefarious logo-juju and Ayn Rand.

Speaking of whom, is it just coincidence that her early book covers are indistinguishable from Nazi/Soviet-style "heroic" realism?

Possibly. The style was fashionable in the States as well.

544 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:42:57pm

G'night folks. Monday is on the horizon.

545 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:44:43pm

Ayn Rand : Nietzsche :: Pam Geller : Maimonides

546 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:46:10pm

re: #541 Floral Giraffe

So, what is it, that makes Ayn Rand appeal to the teenaged? She's had that appeal going for quite a while now...

Teenagers dream of omnipotence, immortality, exceptionalism and adulation.

Some never grow out of it. Such was Rand.

547 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:48:19pm

re: #538 austin_blue

I will apologize to you, DF, but not to Walter. He is a passive aggressive shit stirrer.

If this makes you put me on your shit list, fine. But that would disappoint me. I thought more highly of your capacity for discretion.

Let me be clear: If you don't like Walter, fine that's your right. However, you walked in and started flinging personal attacks without provocation. I don't like that, and its the sort of thing trolls normally do. You're better than that, Austin, and because you're better than that you're not on the shit list for good. But I do feel that you own Walter an apology for mocking him as you did. That you think him passive aggressive and wrong on the issues is within bounds, but to call him a dweeb and heap on personal insults not only shames you but tarnishes LGF with the kind of posts that befit the Stalker Blog. You are a decent man, Austin, and I expect you to act like one.

548 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:49:38pm

re: #546 Cato the Elder

Teenagers dream of omnipotence, immortality, exceptionalism and adulation.

Some never grow out of it. Such was Rand.

Yep.

Her heroes are a cocktail of extreme self-love and extreme self-pity: They insist they need no one, yet they spend all their time fuming that the masses don't bow down before their manifest superiority.

That's pretty much the emotional seesaw of the adolescent right there, at least some of the time. No wonder it appeals.

549 austin_blue  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:49:50pm

Well, I have apparently jumped the shark over my feelings toward Walter.

Sorry to all the Walter fans. It wasn't about you. It was about him. I just think he's a fraud without much to say.

Personal opinion.

Good night Lizards. The rest of you are my dear friends, as I see it. If you think that Walter is the Bees Knees, then by all means, down ding my every future post to return my karma to the negative. Have fun! But that's not what I think think board is about.

550 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:52:30pm

re: #541 Floral Giraffe

So, what is it, that makes Ayn Rand appeal to the teenaged? She's had that appeal going for quite a while now...

Simple heroic stories of supreme personal achievement, anyone could become a millionaire they just had to work hard enough for long enough. But then of course the evil degenerate government would come along and take everything away.

Plus Dagny was a cheap slut who was drawn to power and slept with all the male characters even though she was intelligent, rich, and powerful herself....

///

551 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:52:30pm

re: #549 austin_blue

Well, I have apparently jumped the shark over my feelings toward Walter.

Sorry to all the Walter fans. It wasn't about you. It was about him. I just think he's a fraud without much to say.

Personal opinion.

Good night Lizards. The rest of you are my dear friends, as I see it. If you think that Walter is the Bees Knees, then by all means, down ding my every future post to return my karma to the negative. Have fun! But that's not what I think think board is about.

I won't down ding every post of yours. I'll keep judging them individually and fairly. You are owned that much. But please never launch a torrent of abuse like that again. It demeans you and diminishes us all.

552 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:53:38pm

re: #546 Cato the Elder

Teenagers dream of omnipotence, immortality, exceptionalism and adulation.

Some never grow out of it. Such was Rand.

I dream of it too.
But, have settled for reality, instead.

553 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:53:58pm

re: #537 iceweasel

Exactly. I spotted that in her books when I was a teenager; later when I read Nietzsche I knew she was pushing a cutrate version of Nietzsche. I knew Rand's 'philosophy' was sociopathic, and I knew something about her personal life later which led me to conclude she was emotionally disturbed.

Finding out she idolised a child-killer and based some of her heroes on him isn't entirely out of the blue, but still, uh, wow.


I admit that I enjoy a few of the ideas that come out of Fountainhead. I never held to the die-hard atheist part, or the extreme sociopath Roark but some of the scenes where art is discussed and the manner in which crap art can be made popular stuck with me.
She was a nut, and this thing with the murderer makes me squeamish, I won't search out Atlas Shrugged like I wanted to, but soem of those those Ideas will stick.

I still listen to the Who, and I enjoyed the John Mayer concert last week...

554 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:54:12pm

Sharia Law must be put and kept in its place as subservient to the domestic civil and criminal law and the Constitution.
Radical Islam is the enemy.

555 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:54:16pm

re: #549 austin_blue

What a half-assed apology, and it wasn't even that. No fruit cup for you.

556 Bagua  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:54:44pm


Haters

557 Eclectic Infidel  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:56:09pm

Alright. That's all folks. Goodnight.

558 Bagua  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:58:16pm

re: #554 Spare O'Lake

Sharia Law must be put and kept in its place as subservient to the domestic civil and criminal law and the Constitution.
Radical Islam is the enemy.

Well said. Quiet concourse!

559 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:00:24pm

re: #554 Spare O'Lake

Sharia Law must be put and kept in its place as subservient to the domestic civil and criminal law and the Constitution.
Radical Islam is the enemy.

Uhh...I wasn't aware that there was any danger of that happening here in the first place, in fact I'm sure that there isn't any. After more than 200 years of fighting to keep the Christians froms turning this country into a theocracy I don't think we are in much danger of suddenly allowing the Muslims to do it. :p

560 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:02:01pm

re: #559 ausador

Uhh...I wasn't aware that there was any danger of that happening here in the first place, in fact I'm sure that there isn't any. After more than 200 years of fighting to keep the Christians froms turning this country into a theocracy I don't think we are in much danger of suddenly allowing the Muslims to do it. :p

Happening in France, England, and other places that thought it never could...

Jus' sayin'

561 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:04:00pm

re: #560 Stonemason

Happening in France, England, and other places that thought it never could...

Jus' sayin'

Step away from the Drudge.

562 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:06:30pm

re: #559 ausador

Uhh...I wasn't aware that there was any danger of that happening here in the first place, in fact I'm sure that there isn't any. After more than 200 years of fighting to keep the Christians froms turning this country into a theocracy I don't think we are in much danger of suddenly allowing the Muslims to do it. :p

Imposition of Sharia is the stated aim of radical Islam. If you choose to ignore the threat and pretend it is something that can only happen elsewhere, you are dead wrong.

563 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:07:22pm

re: #554 Spare O'Lake

Sharia Law must be put and kept in its place as subservient to the domestic civil and criminal law and the Constitution.
Radical Islam is the enemy.

We can't let them crazy Imams sap and impurify our bodily fluids!

564 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:08:56pm

re: #561 iceweasel

Step away from the Drudge.

So there are no forms of Sharia law in England.

This is something I learned here, at LGF...if I can find the top posts, I will link them.

565 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:09:11pm

re: #562 Spare O'Lake

Imposition of Sharia is the stated aim of radical Islam. If you choose to ignore the threat and pretend it is something that can only happen elsewhere, you are dead wrong.

Imposition of Christian theocracy is the stated aim of the Dominionists and the Full Quiver types. I think they stand a better chance here in America than any sad little groups of Islamic extremists huddled in a storefront mosque in Hamtramck.

566 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:10:22pm

re: #563 goddamnedfrank

We can't let them crazy Imams sap and impurify our bodily fluids!

Someone's butthurt this thread hasn't been a discussion of all the ways in which Obama is seekritly submitting to Sharia, and instead is labelled "Paranoid Delusion of the Week".

567 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:11:45pm

re: #564 Stonemason

So there are no forms of Sharia law in England.

This is something I learned here, at LGF...if I can find the top posts, I will link them.

Here it is, one of three top posts that month dealing with the Sharia Creep in europe.

568 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:11:47pm

re: #564 Stonemason

So there are no forms of Sharia law in England.

This is something I learned here, at LGF...if I can find the top posts, I will link them.

You do realize that Beit Din courts (Jewish law) are also recognized in Britain?

569 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:11:51pm

re: #560 Stonemason

Happening in France, England, and other places that thought it never could...

Jus' sayin'

That is only if you count less than 3% of Englands population as being in control or perhaps the less than 7% of Frances population are now running the country? You are being blatantly lied to by people who want you perceive a much larger threat than actually exists so that they can spend any amount of money on anything they want and say it is national security and get your immediate O.K.

Read up on the subject from some non-biased sources, the Islamification of Europe is being VASTLY overstated by people who gain by it.

570 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:13:52pm

re: #565 Cato the Elder

Imposition of Christian theocracy is the stated aim of the Dominionists and the Full Quiver types. I think they stand a better chance here in America than any sad little groups of Islamic extremists huddled in a storefront mosque in Hamtramck.

Your point?

571 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:14:55pm

re: #568 Cato the Elder

You do realize that Beit Din courts (Jewish law) are also recognized in Britain?

Yup, I do. My response was to a post that it could never happen here.

Never is a long time.


I like the seperation by the way, I wouldn't want any religion taking over.

572 Bagua  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:14:59pm

re: #568 Cato the Elder

You do realize that Beit Din courts (Jewish law) are also recognized in Britain?

Is Rastafarian law recognised in Britain yet?

573 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:15:13pm

re: #570 Spare O'Lake

Your point?

I thought it was pretty clear.

574 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:16:18pm

re: #571 Stonemason

Yup, I do. My response was to a post that it could never happen here.

Never is a long time.

I like the seperation by the way, I wouldn't want any religion taking over.

Islam is not 'taking over' in either the UK or France.

575 Stonemason  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:19:44pm

re: #569 ausador


What was overstated was that it will never happen here. It isn't a fast takeover by any stretch, and that I have read, and, yes, the sources were biased, they were Islamic in origin. Taking over the world is part of the Religion, well, of most religions actually, but the Radical Islamists think force is the way to achieve the goal. They do need to be stopped.

576 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:22:19pm

All theocrats need to be dunked. Damn them all, and their various "religions".

577 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:22:22pm

Those who think Obama is submitting to Islam and Sharia are indeed paranoid.
Those who think Radical Islam does not have as its objective the imposition of Islam and Sharia Law in Europe and America have their heads stuck up their asses.

578 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:24:54pm

re: #573 Cato the Elder

I thought it was pretty clear.

Yep, me too, but he doesn't understand the difference between voluntary community/religious dispute "courts" and actual Civil or Criminal Courts operated by the State apparently. The fact that you have to be Muslim, and also have to volunteer to have your case heard in Sharia rather than civil court doesn't mean anything to him.

All that seems to have stuck in his brain is "England allows Sharia Courts!!!omgeleventy11!!!

579 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:26:29pm

Sometimes I wish I had read Rand in my teens or early twenties, so that I might have a deeper appreciation for how terribly she sucked.

I'm passed the age of having patience for that kind of tripe, though, so I feel like I have missed out a little.

580 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:27:27pm

re: #577 Spare O'Lake

Those who think Obama is submitting to Islam and Sharia are indeed paranoid.
Those who think Radical Islam the American Taliban does not have as its objective the imposition of Islam and Sharia Law in Europe a Christian theocracy in America have their heads stuck up their asses.

FTFY.

581 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:27:38pm

OT (if anything can be OT this far into a thread):

I just got an upgrade to one of my favorite iPhone apps.

There's a great little company called Olive Tree Bible Software. I own their Greek New Testament. Now they've added in two resources for people like me whose Biblical Greek is not all that firm: a parsing tool which, when you click on any word in the text, gives you the basic lexical meaning of the word and the form (declination, conjugation) of the specific instance (e.g., is it genitive plural, first aorist, or whatever); and a full Greek-English dictionary with the complete definitions. Just the ticket for an old Roman who came to Greek late in life.

I highly recommend the company and their software for anyone who wants to study the Bible on their mobile device.

[Link: www.olivetree.com...]

582 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:29:38pm

re: #575 Stonemason

What was overstated was that it will never happen here. It isn't a fast takeover by any stretch, and that I have read, and, yes, the sources were biased, they were Islamic in origin. Taking over the world is part of the Religion, well, of most religions actually, but the Radical Islamists think force is the way to achieve the goal. They do need to be stopped.

Muslims make up less than .07 of the population of the United States, excuse me if I don't spend the rest of my life living in fear of them taking over the country. It will not happen here, just as it in reality it is not happening in Europe unless you read too much of the conspiracy sites and believe them.

Go peddle your anti-islam fear mongering somewhere there are more stupid and easily scared people to listen. It isn't going to sell here.

583 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:29:44pm

re: #579 Slumbering Behemoth

Sometimes I wish I had read Rand in my teens or early twenties, so that I might have a deeper appreciation for how terribly she sucked.

I'm passed the age of having patience for that kind of tripe, though, so I feel like I have missed out a little.

Yeah, I read the Fountainhead when I was 15. Tried Atlas Shrugged at 17 and had already outgrown it.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

584 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:30:16pm

re: #581 Cato the Elder

The only iPhone app you'll ever need.

585 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:33:47pm

re: #583 iceweasel

Instead of Rand, at those ages I read Orwell and King (Stephen).

586 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:35:58pm

re: #578 ausador

Yep, me too, but he doesn't understand the difference between voluntary community/religious dispute "courts" and actual Civil or Criminal Courts operated by the State apparently. The fact that you have to be Muslim, and also have to volunteer to have your case heard in Sharia rather than civil court doesn't mean anything to him.

All that seems to have stuck in his brain is "England allows Sharia Courts!!!omgeleventy11!!!

Do you think the full extent of the Sharia Law threat is the present matrimonial tempest in England involving the pathetic Archbishop? Fool that you are. This is merely the tip of the iceberg; the thin edge of the wedge.
Radical Islamists seek to impose upon Europe and America the full gamut of Sharia Law, including the criminal law and mercantile law.

587 Cato the Elder  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:37:44pm

re: #586 Spare O'Lake

Do you think the full extent of the Sharia Law threat is the present matrimonial tempest in England involving the pathetic Archbishop? Fool that you are. This is merely the tip of the iceberg; the thin edge of the wedge.
Radical Islamists seek to impose upon Europe and America the full gamut of Sharia Law, including the criminal law and mercantile law.

Good luck with that.

588 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:39:53pm

Yippee! Monday.

Groan.

589 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:41:47pm

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

590 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:42:05pm

re: #586 Spare O'Lake

Do you think the full extent of the Sharia Law threat is the present matrimonial tempest in England involving the pathetic Archbishop? Fool that you are. This is merely the tip of the iceberg; the thin edge of the wedge.
Radical Islamists seek to impose upon Europe and America the full gamut of Sharia Law, including the criminal law and mercantile law.

Well send me an email when they manage to amend the constitution to allow that in the United States of America. In the mean time perhaps you could do us all a favor and stop trying to frighten idiots with fake boogeymen, I don't think your going to find many here so it is kind of pointless.

591 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:42:23pm

re: #588 Gus 802

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.

592 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:43:00pm

re: #585 Slumbering Behemoth

Instead of Rand, at those ages I read Orwell and King (Stephen).

I wasn't big on reading back then. Let's see. 17 years would have put me at most of Gulag Archipelago, Jane's All World Aircraft, books on chemical an biological warfare, Guitar Player magazine.

593 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:44:32pm

re: #591 Slumbering Behemoth

Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays.

I always have a case of the Mondays. It's the start of the weekend. Mail starts again which means more bills and whatever else is hiding in the shadows. I wish we'd have a month off. The whole country just shuts down except for emergency services. No bills, no mail, no rent, no mortgage... then I woke up from my dream.

594 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:47:48pm

re: #587 Cato the Elder

Good luck with that.

One correctly resists the Eurofascists and their enablers. One does not react to radical Islam by denying the threat.
Good luck to you.

595 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:48:03pm

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

What makes you think anyone here is 'ignoring' Radical Islamists?

We're just mocking your fearmongering.

596 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:49:35pm

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Islamists but ignore the Radical Christians are despicable and beneath contempt.

Flipped that for ya, though I don't really buy either sentiment. I do not believe the threat of theocrats should be minimized, but I also do not believe that threat should be overblown.

I oppose dominionists and jihadists, and any other stripe of theocracy loving, shit for brains equally. But this can not be denied: Here in the U.S., dominionists have deeper roots, greater wealth and power, and more influence than any other brand of theocratic garbage.

597 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:49:40pm

re: #595 iceweasel

What makes you think anyone here is 'ignoring' Radical Islamists?

We're just mocking your fearmongering.

I find my Bank of America credit card agreement to be a bigger threat to my personal life than the nefarious Sharia.

598 The Left  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:50:32pm

re: #597 Gus 802

I find my Bank of America credit card agreement to be a bigger threat to my personal life than the nefarious Sharia.

Same here. Same bank, too.

599 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:51:37pm

re: #598 iceweasel

Same here. Same bank, too.

Yeah. Another creepy bank is Capital One. I got rid of the HSBC card over a year ago. They were the worst of the bunch. Yep, banks suck.

600 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:55:34pm

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

Do tell, are they "worse than Hitler?"

601 Gus  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:56:01pm

re: #596 Slumbering Behemoth

Flipped that for ya, though I don't really buy either sentiment. I do not believe the threat of theocrats should be minimized, but I also do not believe that threat should be overblown.

I oppose dominionists and jihadists, and any other stripe of theocracy loving, shit for brains equally. But this can not be denied: Here in the U.S., dominionists have deeper roots, greater wealth and power, and more influence than any other brand of theocratic garbage.

I think one prioritizes in life. Sharia isn't a threat to those of us in the USA as much as the Dominionists that have a "place at the table" already within the political power structure. Another group to consider is the infamous C-Street gang. I know this goes against the grain of the pre-apocalyptic post 911 frame of mind but that's the way I see it. I wake up in the morning and the first thing on my mind is a) my sore neck and b) my mountain of bills.

602 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:58:43pm

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

I am a Christian, and deeply committed to my faith, but I hold no truck with the theocrats, the reality deniers, the homophobes, the haters, and the science deniers who are attempting to turn Christianity into an even bigger joke than the Sarah Palin election dreamers. /

I am not denying radical Islam, and I do see them as a threat. Perhaps I should say that our hugh overreaction to them, our tendency to persecute people solely because of their religion, and our militancy against Islam as a whole is daily making them more of a threat.

Thank God the people in charge right now seem to be adults who understand this and are attacking the radicals without making this a war against all of Islam as you seem to want to do. That happens to be why we are winning and support for the radicals is vanishing like snow under the July sun. But you seem to want to turn this into a holy war, can I ask why?

603 Spare O'Lake  Sun, Feb 28, 2010 11:59:17pm

re: #590 ausador

Well send me an email when they manage to amend the constitution to allow that in the United States of America. In the mean time perhaps you could do us all a favor and stop trying to frighten idiots with fake boogeymen, I don't think your going to find many here so it is kind of pointless.

re: #596 Slumbering Behemoth

Flipped that for ya, though I don't really buy either sentiment. I do not believe the threat of theocrats should be minimized, but I also do not believe that threat should be overblown.

I oppose dominionists and jihadists, and any other stripe of theocracy loving, shit for brains equally. But this can not be denied: Here in the U.S., dominionists have deeper roots, greater wealth and power, and more influence than any other brand of theocratic garbage.

That's fine with me, I defend neither the Dominionists nor the Islamofascists.
Unlike some right here who think radical Islam is not a real threat - fucking moronic fools that they are.

604 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:02:17am

re: #562 Spare O'Lake

Imposition of Sharia is the stated aim of radical Islam. If you choose to ignore the threat and pretend it is something that can only happen elsewhere, you are dead wrong.

It is hardly 'ignoring the threat' to mock people dumbass enough to believe that the Christian President of the United States is 'signaling' his secret Muslim allegiances with logos.

605 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:03:41am

re: #600 goddamnedfrank

Do tell, are they "worse than Hitler?"

Not worth answering.

606 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:05:50am

If I had a million dollars, I'll tell you what I'd do...

607 Gus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:05:57am

re: #603 Spare O'Lake

That's fine with me, I defend neither the Dominionists nor the Islamofascists.
Unlike some right here who think radical Islam is not a real threat - fucking moronic fools that they are.

I would venture to guess, quite easily I might add, that people here think that radical Islam is a threat however not according to Spare O'Lake's rules.

608 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:06:38am

re: #578 ausador

Yep, me too, but he doesn't understand the difference between voluntary community/religious dispute "courts" and actual Civil or Criminal Courts operated by the State apparently. The fact that you have to be Muslim, and also have to volunteer to have your case heard in Sharia rather than civil court doesn't mean anything to him.

All that seems to have stuck in his brain is "England allows Sharia Courts!!!omgeleventy11!!!

Lot of people in Europe or the U.S. will go to a bais din before they seek out a civil court.

609 Gus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:06:47am

Coming up next, George Soros.

/

610 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:07:04am

re: #602 ausador

I am a Christian, and deeply committed to my faith, but I hold no truck with the theocrats, the reality deniers, the homophobes, the haters, and the science deniers who are attempting to turn Christianity into an even bigger joke than the Sarah Palin election dreamers. /

I am not denying radical Islam, and I do see them as a threat. Perhaps I should say that our hugh overreaction to them, our tendency to persecute people solely because of their religion, and our militancy against Islam as a whole is daily making them more of a threat.

Thank God the people in charge right now seem to be adults who understand this and are attacking the radicals without making this a war against all of Islam as you seem to want to do. That happens to be why we are winning and support for the radicals is vanishing like snow under the July sun. But you seem to want to turn this into a holy war, can I ask why?

You think I want to turn something into a holy war?
Are you nuts?
The radical Islamists want a holy war.
Face it.

611 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:07:14am

re: #579 Slumbering Behemoth

Sometimes I wish I had read Rand in my teens or early twenties, so that I might have a deeper appreciation for how terribly she sucked.

I'm passed the age of having patience for that kind of tripe, though, so I feel like I have missed out a little.

I can't get more than a couple of pages into any of Rand, except for Anthem, which I've recorded my response to here already.

612 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:08:06am

re: #610 Spare O'Lake

You think I want to turn something into a holy war?
Are you nuts?
The radical Islamists want a holy war.
Face it.

So why give them one?

613 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:08:45am

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

It's not a matter of ignoring, it's a matter of responding to what actually happens, as opposed to indulging fantasies.

614 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:10:12am

re: #597 Gus 802

I find my Bank of America credit card agreement to be a bigger threat to my personal life than the nefarious Sharia.

I think sharia would consider BofA to be in violation of its statutes. Aren't there heavy restrictions on lending on interest?

615 Gus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:12:45am

re: #614 SanFranciscoZionist

I think sharia would consider BofA to be in violation of its statutes. Aren't there heavy restrictions on lending on interest?

Yeah, higher payment I believe. No interest. Higher down payment on a mortgage, etc. About a year ago Sharia mortgages were mentioned at LGF and it inevitably turned into another fear-fest. If on is eclectic one will find some good point from a variety of sources and this might be a good case. That would be tough in this environment when you have people hallucinating that they're seeing Islamic symbols in a military logo.

616 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:13:13am

re: #604 SanFranciscoZionist

It is hardly 'ignoring the threat' to mock people dumbass enough to believe that the Christian President of the United States is 'signaling' his secret Muslim allegiances with logos.

Right you are.
I certainly don't believe that logo shit, nor does anyone around here that I know of.
But those here who have stated that radical Islam is not a real threat are a bunch of stupid pooches.

617 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:13:30am

re: #612 goddamnedfrank

So why give them one?

They don't need anyone to "give them one". They "get one" regardless of outside circumstances by virtue of their oppressive, theocratic mindset. Jihad.

618 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:14:02am

re: #603 Spare O'Lake

That's fine with me, I defend neither the Dominionists nor the Islamofascists.
Unlike some right here who think radical Islam is not a real threat - fucking moronic fools that they are.

re: #610 Spare O'Lake

You think I want to turn something into a holy war?
Are you nuts?
The radical Islamists want a holy war.
Face it.

They are a smaller minority of their religion than the Christians who only support Israel because once the temple is rebuilt the rapture/tribulation/armageddon will come!

Death Cults-R-Us must have have been having a sale or something...

"Face it."

619 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:14:52am

re: #616 Spare O'Lake

Right you are.
I certainly don't believe that logo shit, nor does anyone around here that I know of.
But those here who have stated that radical Islam is not a real threat are a bunch of stupid pooches.

I may be a stupid pooch. I think these guys are a serious security threat, but I lose no sleep over the idea that they can achieve the future they envision.

We took out the Nazis. These guys ain't shit.

620 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:15:41am

re: #617 Slumbering Behemoth

They don't need anyone to "give them one". They "get one" regardless of outside circumstances by virtue of their oppressive, theocratic mindset. Jihad.

I just don't see the need to get into a jihad mindset myself.

621 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:18:44am

And, with my firmly non-jihadi mindset in place, I am going to go to sleep.

622 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:19:13am

re: #612 goddamnedfrank

So why give them one?

The radical islamists are bringing jihad to us. We must fight them and defeat them. It's not a question of "giving them one".
What the fuck are you people talking about?
We can't pretend this thing away.

623 Gus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:21:18am

re: #619 SanFranciscoZionist

I may be a stupid pooch. I think these guys are a serious security threat, but I lose no sleep over the idea that they can achieve the future they envision.

We took out the Nazis. These guys ain't shit.

It's been about 10 years since 911. The tragedy of the 3000 or so that died that day will forever live in infamy. Since then, if there were a holy war against the west they've been doing a very poor job of things. Domestically since that time we've managed to have 150,000 murders and about 400,000 dead from not having health insurance. The overwhelming majority of mass shootings are done for other reasons and only a tiny minority represent Jihadist influence.

624 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:22:44am

re: #620 SanFranciscoZionist

Not what I meant. The mindset, Jihad, holy war, is one of Radical Islam. Those who subscribe to that mindset will cease the need for it when all peoples of the earth fall under the rule of a singularly defined, oppressive brand of Islam.

No one outside of that "theocratic club" has the power to give or take away their holy war. It is a holy war of their own making.

625 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:25:35am

re: #618 ausador

They are a smaller minority of their religion than the Christians who only support Israel because once the temple is rebuilt the rapture/tribulation/armageddon will come!

Death Cults-R-Us must have have been having a sale or something...

"Face it."

Why are you bringing the end-of-timers and Israel into it, you creep?
Radical Islam is the enemy of all civilized people. Period.

626 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:27:45am

re: #623 Gus 802

It's been about 10 years since 911. The tragedy of the 3000 or so that died that day will forever live in infamy. Since then, if there were a holy war against the west they've been doing a very poor job of things. Domestically since that time we've managed to have 150,000 murders and about 400,000 dead from not having health insurance. The overwhelming majority of mass shootings are done for other reasons and only a tiny minority represent Jihadist influence.

Yeah but the "underwear bomber" might have managed to killed another 100 or so just to remind us they still hate us. Of course we have killed about 27,000 of them, actual combatants, not the 150,000+ civilians who died along with them...

627 Bagua  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:29:33am

re: #626 ausador

So whose worse in your view, the Americans or the terrorists?

628 Gus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:29:41am

re: #626 ausador

Yeah but the "underwear bomber" might have managed to killed another 100 or so just to remind us they still hate us. Of course we have killed about 27,000 of them, actual combatants, not the 150,000+ civilians who died along with them...

Yes. Which of course is not to minimize any of those loses. However, if one is going to become afflicted with any form of derangement what happens typically on a given days, years, or decade should be enough to cause that derangement.

629 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:30:33am

re: #625 Spare O'Lake

He has a point, as do you. Your point "Radical Islam is the enemy of all civilized people." True.

I'll add to that, that dominionists are a threat to all civilized people, and pose a greater political threat to the U.S. Many of which, if not all, view Israel as their personal religion's Armageddon Clock.

630 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:30:46am

re: #625 Spare O'Lake

Why are you bringing the end-of-timers and Israel into it, you creep?
Radical Islam is the enemy of all civilized people. Period.

Right, and the elected officials in our own government who want to bring about armageddon asap aren't? Get real...

631 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:34:37am

Sheesh. Seems to me that both sides in this argument have been spending too much time in the chamber.

I'm gonna mosey upstairs where I can make fun of stuff.

632 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:35:11am

re: #608 SanFranciscoZionist

Lot of people in Europe or the U.S. will go to a bais din before they seek out a civil court.

Very, very, few, other than to get an Orthodox Jewish divorce (a gett) so they can remarry.

633 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:40:51am

re: #627 Bagua

So whose worse in your view, the Americans or the terrorists?

Well we certainly have managed to do at least one thing with our disjointed and at times seemingly psychotic split personality on foreign relations. We have kept the whole world guessing what we would do next, and also made everyone afraid to fuck with us, which is by no means entirely a bad thing.

But to answer your question directly the terrorists are obviously worse, at least unless certain misguided people get their way and we proceed even farther on the path of emulating their techniques in order to "win" the war on terror.

634 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:49:51am

re: #625 Spare O'Lake

Why are you bringing the end-of-timers and Israel into it, you creep?

hahah Oh Spare! you are such a root root root for the Republicans at all costs...

635 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:51:39am

re: #586 Spare O'Lake

Do you think the full extent of the Sharia Law threat is the present matrimonial tempest in England involving the pathetic Archbishop? Fool that you are. This is merely the tip of the iceberg; the thin edge of the wedge.
Radical Islamists seek to impose upon Europe and America the full gamut of Sharia Law, including the criminal law and mercantile law.

Lol mindless conservative panicked tribalism.

636 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:57:30am

re: #565 Cato the Elder

Imposition of Christian theocracy is the stated aim of the Dominionists and the Full Quiver types. I think they stand a better chance here in America than any sad little groups of Islamic extremists huddled in a storefront mosque in Hamtramck.

Quoted for truth.

637 Bagua  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:58:57am

re: #633 ausador

I honestly don't know what the term "win" means in the "war on terror" or what will be involved with achieving it. I'm glad to have the US military protecting me and happy that it fights with the highest level of care for innocent life than any in history, baring the Israelis.

638 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:06:18am

re: #589 Spare O'Lake

Those who would attack the Radical Christians but ignore the Radical Islamists are despicable and beneath contempt.

It's called perspective. Which theocratic group has the greatest likelihood of imposing their religious law upon us?

639 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:09:08am

re: #603 Spare O'Lake

That's fine with me, I defend neither the Dominionists nor the Islamofascists.
Unlike some right here who think radical Islam is not a real threat - fucking moronic fools that they are.

Who? Names.

640 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:10:25am

re: #639 Varek Raith

Who? Names.

Yeah, that'll happen.
Not.

641 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:11:01am

re: #640 iceweasel

Yeah, that'll happen.
Not.

Some say, you are right.
;)

642 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:15:44am

re: #641 Varek Raith

Some say, you are right.
;)

Spare will next pop up on an overnight thread during the bitching hours to make a comment ostensibly about Carter, using the words "Jimmah" or Scot and 'weasel', and often put those words in ALL CaPs just to make sure he gets his pathetic passive aggressive rocks off.
Been doing it for months. I've busted him several times on the "Jimmah" bit so that doesn't happen as much.

It has been a couple of weeks since he's done it, but just so you know to downding him when he does it again, or responds to you with some comment about 'some here use weasel words', etc.

643 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:17:05am

re: #642 iceweasel

Got ya. Doesn't the internet just bring out the best in everyone?

644 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:18:48am

re: #643 Varek Raith

Got ya. Doesn't the internet just bring out the best in everyone?

I presume it's the anonymity, to some extent. Sites like this with registration are somewhat better, because people's comments are tied to their 'identity', so there's some accountability.

645 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:22:04am

re: #644 iceweasel

I presume it's the anonymity, to some extent. Sites like this with registration are somewhat better, because people's comments are tied to their 'identity', so there's some accountability.

Depends how many socks one has at their command...

/

646 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:27:27am

re: #645 ausador

Depends how many socks one has at their command...

/

Yes. We've got a few posters with old registration dates that are suddenly active....

647 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:28:17am

re: #642 iceweasel

Just so you are aware, I call Limbaugh the 'King of Weasel Talk'. No relation to the iceweasel.
:)

648 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:33:02am

re: #647 Varek Raith

Just so you are aware, I call Limbaugh the 'King of Weasel Talk'. No relation to the iceweasel.
:)

I suppose next you are going to tell us that she didn't have anything to do with all the "weasel words" used in advertising?

/be proud of the evil you've unleashed, don't deny it! ;)

649 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:34:58am

re: #648 ausador

I suppose next you are going to tell us that she didn't have anything to do with all the "weasel words" used in advertising?

/be proud of the evil you've unleashed, don't deny it! ;)

Well, I am eeevil...and proud of it!
*Hurls Force Lightning randomly about the neighborhood*

650 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:39:20am

re: #645 ausador

Depends how many socks one has at their command...

/

Speaking of which, it appears another member of the class of 2004 just flounced downstairs.
I'm sure their contributions (all under 50 of them) will be sorely missed...

651 Varek Raith  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 1:41:45am

re: #650 iceweasel

Speaking of which, it appears another member of the class of 2004 just flounced downstairs.
I'm sure their contributions (all under 50 of them) will be sorely missed...

Deleted! Fast monitor is fast!

652 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 5:54:17am

re: #594 Spare O'Lake

One correctly resists the Eurofascists and their enablers. One does not react to radical Islam by denying the threat.
Good luck to you.

If you knew anything about my history here and elsewhere, you would blush for having said that.

653 moonbatrising  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 7:36:34am

This is stupid. Here's a link that shows how the logo was probably designed

654 Cato the Elder  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:02:33am

re: #549 austin_blue

If you think that Walter is the Bees Knees, then by all means, down ding my every future post to return my karma to the negative.

Who's the drama queen, again?

655 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:10:19am

One amusing thing about Gaffney floating a conspiracy theory is that he was one of the original members of the Project for a New American Century think tank. The PNAC is a favorite talking point of 9/11 "truthers", because they believe that a particular PNAC document spells out the motive for the evil NWO to fake the attacks.

656 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:28:18am

re: #632 Spare O'Lake

Very, very, few, other than to get an Orthodox Jewish divorce (a gett) so they can remarry.

Many Orthodox Jews in the business communities prefer them to civil courts to settle disputes. It's not unusual.

657 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:30:56am

re: #633 ausador

Well we certainly have managed to do at least one thing with our disjointed and at times seemingly psychotic split personality on foreign relations. We have kept the whole world guessing what we would do next, and also made everyone afraid to fuck with us, which is by no means entirely a bad thing.

Not at all. We scare the hell out of people with our mood swings, which is one reason I so approved of Obama's Cairo speech. Seven years of Clint Eastwood, and suddenly they've got a family therapist babbling away at them (while pursuing Clint's wars, hard). Confusing as hell.

658 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:35:04am

re: #656 SanFranciscoZionist

Many Orthodox Jews in the business communities prefer them to civil courts to settle disputes. It's not unusual.

Nor do I expect to see these same people carping about Beth Din of America anytime soon. Nor should they.

659 William of Orange  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:42:27am

Oh noooos!!!

Could it be that the Missle Defense program is....


...sponsored by Nike??!!!

660 alkmyst  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 9:22:42am

Maybe it's not supposed to be a muzzle crescent, but it certainly does bear enough of a resemblance to ask the question. (Yes, I see them a lot here in Israel)

What may be slightly more disconcerting is that it is yet another unnecessary change to an existing logo, seems like somebody's getting a little logo-happy... (possibly because it's what worked in the campaign?)

Let's put it to a test, shall we?:

Common symbolism of fascist movements

Organized fascist movements have militarist-appearing uniforms for their members; use paramilitaries for political violence against opponents; use national symbols, historical symbols of a nation as symbols of their movement; and use orchestrated rallies for propaganda purposes. Fascist movements are led by a "Leader" (i.e. Duce, Führer, Caudillo...) who is publicly idolized in propaganda as the nation's saviour. A number of fascist movements use a straight-armed salute. The use of symbols, graphics, and other artifacts created by fascist and totalitarian governments has been noted as a key aspect of their propaganda

661 Charles Johnson  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 9:28:07am

re: #660 alkmyst

Oh, good grief.

The new logo was commissioned during the Bush administration. You might want to consider that when you're indulging in fantasies about fascist symbolism.

662 alkmyst  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 9:30:13am

I didn't see any timestamp on the logo, to me it looks alot like the same O I've been seeing for the past year. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Don't have the time to look up when that logo was put into practice.

663 What, me worry?  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 10:14:10am

re: #520 ausador

"Atlas Shrugged" is an absolute must read to see just how attractive sociopathy can be made to seem to the uninformed. All of her "captains of industry" are made out to be real living super heroes without whom civilization would come to an immediate grinding halt.

Any kind of taxation, regulation, or licensing for any activity that they wish to engage in is made to appear as the ultimate in degenerate evil. That is what they admire, that she could take a point of view that is so completely skewed and one-sided and make it seem reasonable and even heroic to so many.

Sigh...scary woman...

I never read Rand. I think it would upset me too much, but it dawned on me, I wonder if Pam Geller thinks of herself as such, a real living super hero considering her blog name. That's pretty scary, too!

664 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:53:38pm

re: #662 alkmyst

I didn't see any timestamp on the logo, to me it looks alot like the same O I've been seeing for the past year. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Don't have the time to look up when that logo was put into practice.

yeah, you're wrong. and it appears you'll make time to comment about how wrong you are without bothering to read anything here that would show you how wrong you are, and to boast about how you 'don't have time' to read anything. "If you're wrong, you're wrong"

Why am I even responding to you? I guess it's to agree with you on one point: You're wrong.

665 The Left  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 12:54:52pm

re: #660 alkmyst

"Muzzle"?

666 SpaceJesus  Mon, Mar 1, 2010 8:25:35pm

hail satan

667 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Mar 2, 2010 1:35:51am

re: #463 austin_blue

Walter, I read them, and again it is all about the Walter Show. Building yourself into something you can never be.

Relevant.

You are a not very good actor who will never be relevant. Otherwise, you would be a *good* actor, of worth. You work in a ReStore for God's sakes.

You were the dweeb in school who got picked on. You were the last kid picked for the dodge ball team. You turned to drugs and alcohol to assuage your pain and then got clean (Good for you!). But don't try to make yourself something you are not.

I owe you no apology. You are a lost soul.

Go f**k off, asshole...


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