US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban

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You may recall a report on Fox News by James Rosen (supplied to him by an Iran-Contra figure convicted of lying to Congress), alleging that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl converted to Islam and became a “jihadi” while in Taliban captivity.

You may also recall that Fox News simply stopped pushing the story almost immediately, which really isn’t like them. Normally Fox will milk every last drop of outrage from a story like that, carrying on for weeks.

Well, there may be a reason why it surfaced so briefly and then vanished beneath the right wing waves — because the US Army announced yesterday that Sgt. Bergdahl has been exonerated of misconduct while in captivity.

WASHINGTON—The U.S. Army said Wednesday that there is no evidence that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl engaged in any misconduct during his five years in captivity.

[…]

Some soldiers who served with Sgt. Bergdahl speculated that he had helped his captors while being held, but Army officials said Wednesday that there is no indication that he did so. “We have no reason to believe that he engaged in any misconduct” during the five years he was held captive, said one Army official.

Bergdahl is still facing investigation for leaving his post in the first place, but it’s clear that the “became a jihadi” story was an unmitigated smear. Fox and James Rosen certainly knew their source was disreputable and untrustworthy, but the point of these smears is just to get them out there in public and let the right wing mob continue repeating them ad infinitum.

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192 comments
1 Blue Fielder  Jun 26, 2014 4:22:54pm

It won’t matter. To people living in the truth-free alternate dimension of the RWNJ, it never does.

2 jayjaybear  Jun 26, 2014 4:25:11pm

Johnson’s “pigfucker” (alleged) quote comes to mind.

3 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:26:59pm

Cover-up! BENGHAZI!

4 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 26, 2014 4:28:43pm

Speaking of discredited hacks:

5 ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2014 4:30:30pm

I came up with a little animation that speaks to the news of the day…and the frustration that comes with it.

Barack and his bothersome little buddy

6 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:30:49pm

The Bowe Bergdahl affair really illuminated the blind hate the right has for President Obama. First he’s leaving a soldier behind, then they say Obama should have just left him there.

Alouette put up a political cartoon recently. Obama could announce that cancer has been cured and the right wing would still smear him.

7 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 4:30:53pm

The gist of it: “Some soldiers who served with Sgt. Bergdahl speculated…”

In this case, more like a 24 day rule or however long it takes the Army to investigate.

8 Bubblehead II  Jun 26, 2014 4:34:36pm

Night Lizards Sleep well and may the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

9 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:35:34pm
10 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 4:36:32pm

US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban (while in captivity). Nothing else has been determined yet.

11 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:37:26pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban (while in captivity). Nothing else has been determined yet.

Whew. Thanks. Thought I read that in what was put up. Thanks for repeating it.

12 nines09  Jun 26, 2014 4:37:36pm

Speculation. I hear they hang people for that in Democracies. Right? Fox News. All Vomit, All Day.

13 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 26, 2014 4:37:51pm

re: #11 Gus

Yep.

14 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:38:00pm

Now I get the feeling that people want Bergdahl to be guilty of something.

15 sagehen  Jun 26, 2014 4:38:03pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

The Bowe Bergdahl affair really illuminated the blind hate the right has for President Obama. First he’s leaving a soldier behind, then they say Obama should have just left him there.

Alouette put up a political cartoon recently. Obama could announce that cancer has been cured and the right wing would still smear him.

“If he walked on water, they’d complain he can’t swim.”

16 nines09  Jun 26, 2014 4:39:08pm

re: #14 Gus

Now I get the feeling that people want Bergdahl to be guilty of something.

They would rather hang an innocent man than be proven wrong.

17 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 4:39:42pm

re: #4 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Speaking of discredited hacks:

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That guy’s got a short dick….sadly, I know this because his “selfie” of it found its way onto my screen the other day.

18 Irving  Jun 26, 2014 4:40:00pm

…so I see you read Charles’s title on this article, KG. Good on ya. Anything else you’d like to contribute to the discussion?

19 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:40:23pm

A senator from the Colorado state house got married today in Boulder. Normally that’s not a big deal. But today is kind of history.

20 blueraven  Jun 26, 2014 4:41:00pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban (while in captivity). Nothing else has been determined yet.

Like the rest of us here have comprehension issues or something? Good grief.

21 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:41:39pm
22 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Jun 26, 2014 4:41:42pm

re: #20 blueraven

Like the rest of us here have comprehension issues or something? Good grief.

You’ll be spoon-fed until the morale improves.

23 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:42:05pm

re: #20 blueraven

Like the rest of us here have comprehension issues or something? Good grief.

KT’s just trying to help people who suffer from the same issues he does, be nice.

24 Charles Johnson  Jun 26, 2014 4:42:40pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban (while in captivity). Nothing else has been determined yet.

Was there something unclear about what I wrote? Quote:

Sgt. Bergdahl has been exonerated of misconduct while in captivity.

25 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:42:56pm

re: #19 teleskiguy

A senator from the Colorado state house got married today in Boulder. Normally that’s not a big deal. But today is kind of history.

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The AG is some Republican asshole that sided with Prop. 8. God, I cringe at CO going back to the asshole Amendment 2 days. Still pissed me off how they voted for that marriage amendment. So yes, legally the AG is still correct. But fuck him anyway.

26 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:43:15pm
27 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:46:19pm

[WARM ROCK BREAK]

28 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:47:21pm

re: #25 Gus

The AG is some Republican asshole that sided with Prop. 8. God, I cringe at CO going back to the asshole Amendment 2 days. Still pissed me off how they voted for that marriage amendment. So yes, legally the AG is still correct. But fuck him anyway.

That amendment was passed on a wave of anti-gay paranoia formented by Karl Rove to get conservative reactionaries out to the polls to get G.W. reelected. Certainly one of the more shameful things Colorado voters passed.

SCOTUS punted last year on gay marriage. It will most certainly have to be relitigated and a definitive decision will need to be made.

29 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 4:47:35pm

From the military press release it looks like they my talk to the other soldiers in his unit again
Official: Initial Bergdahl Investigation Was Inconclusive

To the extent that the investigating officer believes that there are gaps in those statements or additional questions that need to be asked,” the official said, “he may reach out to witnesses that have already given statements and re-interview them.”

The investigator for the 15-6 investigation has not yet interviewed Bergdahl, the official said, and that won’t happen until Bergdahl’s reintegration process is complete. Typically the subject of the investigation is not interviewed until the end, the official noted.

An interview with Bergdahl could happen “in a couple of weeks,” the Army official said.

30 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:48:41pm

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

31 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:48:56pm

re: #28 teleskiguy

That amendment was passed on a wave of anti-gay paranoia formented by Karl Rove to get conservative reactionaries out to the polls to get G.W. reelected. Certainly one of the more shameful things Colorado voters passed.

SCOTUS punted last year on gay marriage. It will most certainly have to be relitigated and a definitive decision will need to be made.

Yes. Not sure about the technicalities but the vote was the reverse in wording. If I remember correctly it was one of hose vote no if you’re for the amendment and yes if you’re against said amendment.

32 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:49:13pm

re: #30 klys

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

Nice smooth river rock perhaps?

33 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:51:48pm

re: #32 Gus

Nice smooth river rock perhaps?

I’m debating putting some of those down in the front yard where they had to tear up the juniper bushes.

34 Lidane  Jun 26, 2014 4:52:30pm

re: #24 Charles Johnson

There are concerns, you know.

35 b_sharp  Jun 26, 2014 4:52:49pm

re: #30 klys

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

Igneous.

Sedimentary breaks too easily.

36 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:52:53pm

re: #31 Gus

Yes. Not sure about the technicalities but the vote was the reverse in wording. If I remember correctly it was one of hose vote no if you’re for the amendment and yes if you’re against said amendment.

I remember the cover of the dearly departed Rocky Mountain News (I’m still sad about that, the Rocky was my first and still only newspaper subscription I ever had) the day after the election. In huge letters GAY RIGHTS CLOBBERED.

37 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:53:26pm

re: #35 b_sharp

Igneous.

Sedimentary breaks too easily.

Mmmm, obsidian.

38 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:54:20pm

re: #30 klys

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

Gneiss can be nice.

39 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:54:26pm

re: #36 teleskiguy

I remember the cover of the dearly departedRocky Mountain News(I’m still sad about that, the Rocky was my first and still only newspaper subscription I ever had) the day after the election. In huge letters GAY RIGHTS CLOBBERED.

Was pretty depressing. Felt really ashamed. Plus I just got here from San Francisco and I was like, “where the fuck did I land?”

40 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:54:42pm

re: #35 b_sharp

Oh, I found the adjustable wrench in the garage and was able to tighten stuff up another quarter turn or so, and not feeling any leaking whatsoever at this point (not that it was a lot before). Icemaker has even been turned on and appears to be functioning, if slow.

41 jaunte  Jun 26, 2014 4:54:52pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

Loess is more.

42 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:55:10pm

re: #33 klys

I’m debating putting some of those down in the front yard where they had to tear up the juniper bushes.

Good landscaping stone.

43 klys  Jun 26, 2014 4:55:28pm

re: #39 Gus

Was pretty depressing. Felt really ashamed. Plus I just got here from San Francisco and I was like, “where the fuck did I land?”

Election night 2008 was simultaneously fantastic (HOORAY NOT MCCAIN) and horrific (how the fuck did Prop 8 pass???).

44 Kragar  Jun 26, 2014 4:55:29pm
45 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:57:18pm

re: #43 klys

Election night 2008 was simultaneously fantastic (HOORAY NOT MCCAIN) and horrific (how the fuck did Prop 8 pass???).

Here’s the BS marriage amendment passed in 2006: Colorado Amendment 43.

46 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 4:58:41pm

Stop Sharia but let’s make religious based laws anyway! Whee! Good times. So freaking meta.

47 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 4:59:14pm

re: #43 klys

Election night 2008 was simultaneously fantastic (HOORAY NOT MCCAIN) and horrific (how the fuck did Prop 8 pass???).

If we’re talking about elections that made us angry and sad, 2004 was totally it for me. Bush reelected, constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, philandering dishonest sheriff getting elected in my county, yeah, that one sucked.

48 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 5:01:06pm

Hmm, could have sworn it was 2004. I wonder if that was the same year we tried and failed with cannabis legalization (amendment 20 43 IIRC).

Corrected. 20 was medical marijuana, passed in 2000. Man, I’ve voted in a lot of elections, hard to keep all the referenda straight!

49 sagehen  Jun 26, 2014 5:03:22pm

re: #30 klys

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

Granite. Quartz. Obsidian.

50 Kragar  Jun 26, 2014 5:04:05pm
51 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 5:05:03pm

re: #40 klys

My ice maker makes a series of noises for about 35 minutes before the water finally flows in to the maker. It sounds like a poltergeist.

52 Kragar  Jun 26, 2014 5:05:31pm

re: #30 klys

Hey Gus, any good rock recommendations?

Bon Scott era AC/DC, 70s era Ronnie James Dio, Foo Fighters

53 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:05:38pm

re: #48 teleskiguy

Hmm, could have sworn it was 2004. I wonder if that was the same year we tried and failed with cannabis legalization (amendment 20 IIRC).

I thought it was 2008. Googled and it was 2006. Amendment 2 was far worse because it allowed overall discrimination.

54 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 5:06:22pm

I need to get home to a real keyboard! Commenting at LGF with an iPad isn’t near as easy.

55 Kragar  Jun 26, 2014 5:06:28pm
56 compound_Idaho  Jun 26, 2014 5:08:07pm

re: #51 prairiefire

My ice maker makes a series of noises for about 35 minutes before the water finally flows in to the maker. It sounds like a poltergeist.

My ice maker pours too much water into the tray. It overflows into the bin and forms a solid chuck of ice that will not fit into my drink glass. Every time it does it, it pisses me off. Rather than fix it, I just get another drink.

57 jaunte  Jun 26, 2014 5:09:08pm

re: #55 Kragar

Have another refreshing glass of Dashed Theocratic Confederate Hopes!

58 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 5:09:10pm

re: #55 Kragar

In what freaking universe is Thad “100% Rating from the Eagle Forum” Cochran not a conservative?

59 compound_Idaho  Jun 26, 2014 5:09:41pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

In what freaking universe is Thad “100% Rating from the Eagle Forum” Cochran not a conservative?

Mississippi

60 klys  Jun 26, 2014 5:10:26pm

re: #51 prairiefire

My ice maker makes a series of noises for about 35 minutes before the water finally flows in to the maker. It sounds like a poltergeist.

We were missing one part for the water line hookup for the icemaker so I ended up getting to do it myself (new fridge!). I got the part myself and got it all hooked up and finished the tweaks this morning so it seems to have stopped leaking (just a teeny bit).

61 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 5:12:46pm

Back in a bit, I’m going to the local weed store for some product, better hurry, they close in 45 minutes!

BBL

62 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:13:04pm
63 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 26, 2014 5:13:22pm

re: #60 klys

We were missing one part for the water line hookup for the icemaker so I ended up getting to do it myself (new fridge!). I got the part myself and got it all hooked up and finished the tweaks this morning so it seems to have stopped leaking (just a teeny bit).

I’m a big fan of putting a wrap of teflon tape on everything with a thread when I commit plumbing. Have had a remarkably high success rate with it.

64 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:13:57pm
65 b_sharp  Jun 26, 2014 5:14:04pm

re: #40 klys

Oh, I found the adjustable wrench in the garage and was able to tighten stuff up another quarter turn or so, and not feeling any leaking whatsoever at this point (not that it was a lot before). Icemaker has even been turned on and appears to be functioning, if slow.

Good stuff.

66 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 5:14:22pm

re: #60 klys

We were missing one part for the water line hookup for the icemaker so I ended up getting to do it myself (new fridge!). I got the part myself and got it all hooked up and finished the tweaks this morning so it seems to have stopped leaking (just a teeny bit).

I cleared out a mice nest in the garage today.

67 Lidane  Jun 26, 2014 5:15:16pm

re: #55 Kragar

Because Thad Cochran is a flaming librul commie, don’tcha know.

68 compound_Idaho  Jun 26, 2014 5:15:29pm

re: #63 RealityBasedSteve

I would rather work on live electricity than plumbing. A qualified plumber is worth every penny.

69 Bear  Jun 26, 2014 5:15:33pm

re: #66 prairiefire

Shame on you destroying their home.

70 klys  Jun 26, 2014 5:15:38pm

re: #63 RealityBasedSteve

I’m a big fan of putting a wrap of teflon tape on everything with a thread when I commit plumbing. Have had a remarkably high success rate with it.

This was a case of a compression nut with a plastic inflow tube, so it was mostly a case of getting it tight enough but not too tight.

We won’t talk about the first attempt, but the second one appears to have worked.

71 Lidane  Jun 26, 2014 5:16:05pm

re: #58 teleskiguy

In what freaking universe is Thad “100% Rating from the Eagle Forum” Cochran not a conservative?

The People’s Glorious Empire of Free Republicstan

72 klys  Jun 26, 2014 5:16:08pm

re: #66 prairiefire

I cleared out a mice nest in the garage today.

I take every adult-type accomplishment I can get.

73 b_sharp  Jun 26, 2014 5:16:42pm

re: #66 prairiefire

I cleared out a mice nest in the garage today.

How did they taste?

74 compound_Idaho  Jun 26, 2014 5:18:07pm

re: #70 klys

This was a case of a compression nut with a plastic inflow tube, so it was mostly a case of getting it tight enough but not too tight.

We won’t talk about the first attempt, but the second one appears to have worked.

To quote my father, “did you get it really tight? ……….. well you’re not supposed to.”

75 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:18:16pm
76 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:27:45pm

re: #75 Gus

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Levitate the Pentagon!
Youtube Video

Occupy levitation!

77 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 5:28:58pm

re: #69 Bear

Shame on you destroying their home.

The stench!!re: #72 klys

I take every adult-type accomplishment I can get.

Me, too.re: #73 b_sharp

How did they taste?

A bit crunchy.

78 piratedan  Jun 26, 2014 5:29:11pm

it’s pretty obvious, you guys didn’t put “while in captivity” in scare quotes, so the wingers can still allege that he was secretly aiding and abetting them before he was “captured“… sheesh /////

79 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:30:04pm

RE

The court’s abortion ruling is a big win for lefties like me
By Carl Gibson June 26 at 5:01 PM
Carl Gibson is co-founder of US Uncut, a grassroots movement which mobilized thousands to protest corporate tax dodging and budget cuts in the months leading up to Occupy Wall Street.

…Currently, it’s even illegal to demonstrate on the Supreme Court steps without risking arrest. If the court deems that women seeking abortions have to worm their way through crowds of protesters, then the justices who voted to void protest buffer zones should face their own crowds to get inside the halls of the Supreme Court.

80 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:30:21pm

Abbie Hoffman is still around. I guess I hadn’t thought of him for a while.

81 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:30:34pm
82 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 5:30:56pm
83 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2014 5:31:31pm

re: #55 Kragar

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As we all should.

84 wrenchwench  Jun 26, 2014 5:32:47pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Abbie Hoffman is still around. I guess I hadn’t thought of him for a while.

He died in 1989.

85 b_sharp  Jun 26, 2014 5:34:30pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

He died in 1989.

When I do LSD he’s still here man.

86 GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 26, 2014 5:35:21pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

US Army Exonerates Sgt. Bergdahl of Collaborating With the Taliban (while in captivity). Nothing else has been determined yet.

Thanks for pointing out what has been pointed out in the title, Professor.

87 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 5:35:35pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Abbie Hoffman is still around. I guess I hadn’t thought of him for a while.

You’re probably thinking of Jerry Rubin who is a capitalist pig these days.

88 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 5:36:24pm

Oh, wait. Jerry Rubin is dead, too. 1994.

89 bratwurst  Jun 26, 2014 5:39:42pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Abbie Hoffman is still around. I guess I hadn’t thought of him for a while.

He’s been dead for 25 years. For the first time EVER you are talking out of your ass.

en.wikipedia.org

90 goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2014 5:41:57pm

It’s sad that nobody tells Killgore when peeps up and croak.

91 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 5:42:24pm

No pie this week, I made a Sour Cream Bundt Cake instead.

92 EmmaAnne  Jun 26, 2014 5:42:42pm

re: #25 Gus

The AG is some Republican asshole that sided with Prop. 8. God, I cringe at CO going back to the asshole Amendment 2 days. Still pissed me off how they voted for that marriage amendment. So yes, legally the AG is still correct. But fuck him anyway.

I cried the night Amendment Two passed. The city precincts came in first, and it was losing, and we were all really happy. But then the rural ballots were counted. :-(

93 RealityBasedSteve  Jun 26, 2014 5:43:02pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

It’s sad that nobody tells Killgore when peeps up and croak.

but Timothy Leary’s still around right?

RBS

94 goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2014 5:43:19pm

Y’all should comment on my new page and tweet about it and make sweet hot love to it.

95 Blue Fielder  Jun 26, 2014 5:43:40pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

It’s sad that nobody tells Killgore when peeps up and croak.

Yeah, it’s too bad for him there’s not some massive Interconnected Network of computers that could have given him that information before stepping in it yet again.

I wonder when they’ll come up with something like that?

96 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 5:43:59pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

No pie this week, I made a Sour Cream Bundt Cake instead.
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Ohhhhh. : )

97 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 5:44:41pm

re: #81 Gus

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98 goddamnedfrank  Jun 26, 2014 5:44:44pm

re: #91 Pie-onist Overlord

No pie this week, I made a Sour Cream Bundt Cake instead.
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I used to make those.

Oh the feels!

99 wrenchwench  Jun 26, 2014 5:47:53pm

This is the hole in the wall where I saw some swallow chicks. The horizontal whitish dashes are a beak.

Those guys are hard to see, but there’s a nest two doors down from the shop that’s very visible.

And I got lucky!

Later, lizards.

100 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 5:48:05pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

I used to make those.

Oh the feels!

Recipe is here.

I used tofu sour cream instead of dairy sour cream but it’s not vegan because I used eggs.

101 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 5:49:10pm

Via George Takei & Just, Julie.

102 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:52:58pm

re: #84 wrenchwench

He died in 1989.

Did he? I saw this on the sidebar
Youtube Video
..and assumed he was still alive. I guess being dead explains why I hadn’t hear of him in a while

103 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 5:54:17pm

John Lewis on CNN (over now. damn)

CNN showing the 60’s focused on the civil rights movement in just a few minutes.

104 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:56:20pm

re: #88 Justanotherhuman

Oh, wait. Jerry Rubin is dead, too. 1994.

I recently started rereading Kerouac’s On the Road. Very different impressions now from my reading 20 years ago. I might go back and revisit the early Beatnik authors again. Might make a nice summer project.

105 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 5:57:00pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Gingsberg has grown on me. I tried everything to get it off.

106 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:57:57pm

en.wikipedia.org

Allen Ginsberg’s Howl (1956), William S. Burroughs’s Naked Lunch (1959) and Jack Kerouac’s On the Road (1957) are among the best known examples of Beat literature.[2] Both Howl and Naked Lunch were the focus of obscenity trials that ultimately helped to liberalize publishing in the United States.

Outrage!

107 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 5:59:10pm

re: #105 prairiefire

Gingsberg has grown on me. I tried everything to get it off.

I never cared much for him, I don’t know why. But I’m sure my tastes now differ from my 20 year old self. I’m willing to give him another try.

108 EPR-radar  Jun 26, 2014 6:04:52pm

re: #92 EmmaAnne

I cried the night Amendment Two passed. The city precincts came in first, and it was losing, and we were all really happy. But then the rural ballots were counted. :-(

I forgave my sister for voting in favor of Amendment 2. Eventually.

109 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 6:05:59pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

en.wikipedia.org

Outrage!

Some of the worst memories I have were of men’s attitudes toward women in the ’50s. These guys weren’t much different, even if Burroughs and Ginsberg were known to be gay (maybe because of it to some extent—they pretty well ignored women), but they were “cool” for the time. Remember, this was before women woke up in the 60s.

110 EPR-radar  Jun 26, 2014 6:07:08pm

re: #55 Kragar

I like how “voting against a conservative” is supposed to be a bad thing.

No, its pretty much a requirement for admission to civilized society in the US.

111 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 6:07:24pm

I’ve never seen these clips.

112 sagehen  Jun 26, 2014 6:15:29pm

OT: NY lizards… any recommendations for a furniture store? I need a couch.

113 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:15:35pm

Back from the weed store. Got this stuff called SpaceBomb. Man, cannabis strain names are freaking weird, yo! My personal favorite that I’ve encountered was called Drool Bucket.

114 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:21:56pm
115 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 6:23:07pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

Back from the weed store. Got this stuff called SpaceBomb. Man, cannabis strain names are freaking weird, yo! My personal favorite that I’ve encountered was called Drool Bucket.

Now I have the munchies.

116 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 6:23:24pm

re: #17 darthstar

That guy’s got a short dick….sadly, I know this because his “selfie” of it found its way onto my screen the other day.

If that was my dick I’d take a pill, not a portrait.

117 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 6:23:44pm

re: #109 Justanotherhuman

Some of the worst memories I have were of men’s attitudes toward women in the ’50s. These guys weren’t much different, even if Burroughs and Ginsberg were known to be gay (maybe because of it to some extent—they pretty well ignored women), but they were “cool” for the time. Remember, this was before women woke up in the 60s.

Yeah, it’s interesting to see how they were products of their time. Even the much lauded Twain wouldn’t pass muster today for political correctness. I always find it interesting to see how people really were rather than the mythologized version that exist in pop culture. Even the older hippies here in Portland have a lot of attitudes that would shock many as out dated. So it goes.

118 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 6:24:19pm

re: #113 teleskiguy

Back from the weed store. Got this stuff called SpaceBomb. Man, cannabis strain names are freaking weird, yo! My personal favorite that I’ve encountered was called Drool Bucket.

May I ask what you paid?

119 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 6:26:24pm

Those freedom riders need to mind their own business.

120 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:26:40pm
121 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 6:26:51pm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

I recently started rereading Kerouac’s On the Road. Very different impressions now from my reading 20 years ago. I might go back and revisit the early Beatnik authors again. Might make a nice summer project.

Start pre-beat, Kenneth Rexroth. He punched out Kerouac.

“An entomologist is not a bug.”

122 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:28:01pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

If that was my dick I’d take a pill, not a portrait.

I don’t do dick pics, but if I did I would chub up at least a little bit.

123 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 6:28:57pm

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Start pre-beat, Kenneth Rexroth. He punched out Kerouac.

“An entomologist is not a bug.”

en.wikipedia.org
Excellent idea! Much thanks

124 dog philosopher  Jun 26, 2014 6:32:24pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

This is the hole in the wall where I saw some swallow chicks. The horizontal whitish dashes are a beak.

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Those guys are hard to see, but there’s a nest two doors down from the shop that’s very visible.

[Embedded image]

And I got lucky!

[Embedded image]

Later, lizards.

must be bird day

somebody posted this just now on another blog

125 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 6:32:24pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

en.wikipedia.org
Excellent idea! Much thanks


“He spent his teenage years as an art student and soda jerk, along with other odd jobs. In 1923—1924 he was imprisoned during a raid on a Near North Side bar that he frequented; the police alleged he was part owner of a brothel. He lived in a decrepit jail cell under the care of four black cellmates until his legal guardian could bail him out.”

He was 19, held a poetry reading at the brothel. Start with “Autobiography in the Form of a Novel.”

126 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:32:28pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

May I ask what you paid?

2 grams $35. Kinda pricey compared to the black market, but it’s taxed. Actual price before taxes was $22.65. State tax plus $5 to the town made it $35.

The town of Eagle gets $5 for every recreational weed transaction. They’ve pulled in thousands of dollars with that tax without a doubt.

127 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 6:35:08pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

2 grams $35. Kinda pricey compared to the black market, but it’s taxed. Actual price before taxes was $22.65. 18.4% tax plus $5 to the town made it $35.

The town of Eagle gets $5 for every recreational weed transaction. They’ve pulled in thousands of dollars with that tax without a doubt.

Nice. Just think of the tax as municipal charity, it goes to a good cause.

128 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:36:15pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

Nice. Just think of the tax as municipal charity, it goes to a good cause.

That’s why I go to the stores. I’m happy paying taxes on cannabis.

129 sagehen  Jun 26, 2014 6:36:23pm

re: #119 Stanley Sea

Those freedom riders need to mind their own business.

Outside Agitators FTW!

130 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:37:08pm

But hey, it’s true.

usatoday.com

131 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:37:11pm

Ooooh yeah, the SpaceBomb is actually quite tasty!

132 Killgore Trout  Jun 26, 2014 6:37:11pm
Communalism: From Its Origins to the Twentieth Century

Outrage!

133 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 6:43:20pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

2 grams $35. Kinda pricey compared to the black market, but it’s taxed. Actual price before taxes was $22.65. 18.4% tax plus $5 to the town made it $35.

The town of Eagle gets $5 for every recreational weed transaction. They’ve pulled in thousands of dollars with that tax without a doubt.

$50 for an 1/8th ounce in Denver. That includes tax.

134 Rocky-in-Connecticut  Jun 26, 2014 6:43:31pm

I guessed last week that various right wing outlets and individuals would be in for a massive, massive series of lawsuits for libel in this case. It looks like evidence for the the case is building.

Stay tuned soon for a Faux News mea culpa and retraction soon before the case begins to worry the pocketbooks of Ailes and Murdoch. The talking fools on that network will explode in anger behind the scenes, but will be forced to apologize on air by a worried Faux News legal department.

135 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 6:44:48pm

Medgar Evers was on TV and the white people were pissed. “he was a marked man”

Finally, Evers was granted time to respond, on May 20, 1963. He spoke for 17 minutes, beginning by telling his audience he was as an U.S. Army veteran who fought fascism and Nazism in Europe during World War II. He talked about a 40 percent black city of 150,000 residents that had no black police officers, firefighters, or clerks. He called for a black man being able to “register and vote without special handicaps imposed on him” and “more jobs above the menial level in stores where he spends his money.”

cbsnews.com

136 William Barnett-Lewis  Jun 26, 2014 6:46:32pm

Heh. I never smoked much and when I did, well, let´s just say I remember when a dime bag cost a dime… ;)

137 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:47:45pm

138 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 6:48:16pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I never smoked much and when I did, well, let´s just say I remember when a dime bag cost a dime… ;)

“And get off my weed…”

139 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 6:49:43pm

140 EPR-radar  Jun 26, 2014 6:50:35pm

re: #139 Gus

This business with the pictures is getting out of hand.

141 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:50:38pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I never smoked much and when I did, well, let´s just say I remember when a dime bag cost a dime… ;)

I love pot, even though I don’t smoke it regularly anymore. I like to treat it like a cocktail. Just enough for a light buzz, but I still want to function. It’s actually better than alcohol. In a few years, when I feel like I’ve got everything in my life in the right place, I’ll probably start smoking it again.

I also love mushrooms. And I read an interview with Bob Weir where he said he still takes them from time to time when he’s at a jam session and the younger guys he’s playing with are taking them. That’s fuckin’ awesome. But those, too, I’ll save for said rainy day.

142 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 6:50:48pm

re: #133 Gus

$50 for an 1/8th ounce in Denver. That includes tax.

Holy cow! My son gets primo from his long-time guy and it’s 1/4 for $50. No chance of it becoming legal in NC any time soon, though.

143 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Jun 26, 2014 6:51:19pm

re: #139 Gus

[Embedded image]

Nice. Is she related to Michele Bachmann?

144 Gus  Jun 26, 2014 6:51:27pm

See you guys.

145 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 6:51:30pm
146 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 6:51:41pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I never smoked much and when I did, well, let´s just say I remember when a dime bag cost a dime… ;)

The first I ever paid for was $12 for a lid. No one even calls an oz that anymore, either. Never bought much, never smoked much.

147 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:52:35pm

re: #133 Gus

$50 for an 1/8th ounce in Denver. That includes tax.

That’s what I paid for good cannabis on the black market in college 14 years ago.

148 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:53:36pm

Hey, America is in the magic quadrant!

149 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:54:36pm

By any standard I smoke cannabis a lot. Too embarrassed to give any concrete numbers to this audience.

150 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 6:54:55pm
151 dog philosopher  Jun 26, 2014 6:56:39pm

so, what if i change my nym to ‘fastboot flash’?

152 Pie-onist Overlord  Jun 26, 2014 6:57:32pm
153 darthstar  Jun 26, 2014 6:57:33pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

By any standard I smoke cannabis a lot. Too embarrassed to give any concrete numbers to this audience.

Nothing to be embarrassed about. You can get your 70-80 days of skiing in, still function at your job, and spend time bullshitting on the internet.

154 CuriousLurker  Jun 26, 2014 6:57:37pm

re: #136 William Barnett-Lewis

Heh. I never smoked much and when I did, well, let´s just say I remember when a dime bag cost a dime… ;)

Last time I smoked (a little over two decades ago) you could get a 1/4 oz. of decent quality for around $40. Then again I doubt what was considered decent quality back then could come anywhere near what they’re growing now—the pics I’ve seen… it looks different now… WAY different

155 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 6:57:53pm

It’s really nice to be able to admit publicly that I smoke cannabis without any fear. Comforting to know that I’m breaking no laws in my state (unless I smoke on federal lands, which is often - gotta ski and ride my bike, y’know).

156 dog philosopher  Jun 26, 2014 6:57:59pm

re: #146 Justanotherhuman

The first I ever paid for was $12 for a lid. No one even calls an oz that anymore, either. Never bought much, never smoked much.

i think i musta bought the last $10 lid sold in a paper bag, back there about 1969 or so

157 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 6:58:12pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

By any standard I smoke cannabis a lot. Too embarrassed to give any concrete numbers to this audience.

My son smokes every day. He’s 54. He’s done it for years and maintains a job and himself. I just couldn’t function that way at any time in my life. I need to feel more control and I don’t feel it on pot. I’ve always seen it as a party thing.

158 dog philosopher  Jun 26, 2014 6:59:27pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

By any standard I smoke cannabis a lot. Too embarrassed to give any concrete numbers to this audience.

this statistic has to be reckoned in units of mexican provinces

159 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:01:48pm

re: #153 darthstar

Nothing to be embarrassed about. You can get your 70-80 days of skiing in, still function at your job, and spend time bullshitting on the internet.

re: #157 Justanotherhuman

My son smokes every day. He’s 54. He’s done it for years and maintains a job and himself. I just couldn’t function that way at any time in my life. I need to feel more control and I don’t feel it on pot. I’ve always seen it as a party thing.

And that’s the thing. I function just fine in society. I’m always reminded of Bill Hicks in these conversations.

Youtube Video

160 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 7:02:15pm

re: #156 dog philosopher

i think i musta bought the last $10 lid sold in a paper bag, back there about 1969 or so

Don’t know that I ever bought any. My boss (early 70s) gave it as an incentive award. It wasn’t worth the paranoia, and I dumped my last stash out the window at 60 MPH.

161 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:03:04pm

re: #156 dog philosopher

i think i musta bought the last $10 lid sold in a paper bag, back there about 1969 or so

Oh, ‘69? Yeah, they were putting them in plastic sandwich bags back then in NC. A little harder to get, so $12. : ) 1969 was the first time I smoked pot and I was 28. Never had to buy it except once. Everyone usually had some, and I didn’t smoke it all the time, just at parties. That lid was just sort of a gesture to share w/others. I had kids, so thought it wasn’t the wisest thing to be spending my hard earned money on. : )

162 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:04:09pm

re: #158 dog philosopher

this statistic has to be reckoned in units of mexican provinces

Ha ha ha!!!

Phatty.

163 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 7:04:13pm

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

Oh, ‘69? Yeah, they were putting them in plastic sandwich bags back then in NC. A little harder to get, so $12. : ) 1969 was the first time I smoked pot and I was 28. Never had to buy it except once. Everyone usually had some, and I didn’t smoke it all the time, just at parties. That lid was just sort of a gesture to share w/others. I had kids, so thought it wasn’t the wisest thing to be spending my hard earned money on. : )

‘Xactly, and with 3 kids I couldn’t justify the KY legal risk.

164 CuriousLurker  Jun 26, 2014 7:05:08pm

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

We used to call it a “lid” too. Anyone know where that term came from? Looking back, it seems kind of odd.

165 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 7:05:12pm

re: #162 teleskiguy

Ha ha ha!!!

Phatty.

Crew-served doobie.

166 Stanley Sea  Jun 26, 2014 7:08:52pm

There’s 2 periods of time in pot smoking:

Stems and seeds

Sensimilla

and all that came after.

167 Lidane  Jun 26, 2014 7:09:08pm

OUTRAGE!

Freepers have reacted in their usual calm and rational manner:

Oh … they want him to become a Democrat now! … LOL …
—

Thud will toss ‘em a few extra pairs of golf shoes to shine…..
—

I’m guessing they got “walking around” money…what more do they want ?
—

BULLSH****

IT WAS FRAUD! AND WE HAVE PICS TO PROVE IT!
—

Looks like the blacks want their reparations for supporting Cochran, meanwhile Cochran is so damn senile he has no idea what century he is in..but he will do whatever they want since they voted for him
—

Time to pay the pipers, and the moochers and looters!
—

Well, of course, they want reciprocity. One doesn’t make a deal with the Devil without strings.
—

“Elections have consequences!”

Yeah. Like the girls on the corner always used to tell me: “It ain’t never free, baby!”
—

bwahaha…. Cochran, you’re a white [ni-CLANG!] now; your ass is owned by the race-baiting industry; i.e. Democrats; hope it was worth it. Don’t enjoy that porch you’ve occupied (for how many years?) too much, your uncle tom card is being pulled and you now have to get to the back of the bus and re-work your way up some seat rows.

This scum bag is gonna try and win re-election as an R and then quickly flip D. Bank on it. He’s a bitch of the highest order.
—

Cochran could leave some large bills on the dresser…
—

“…should thank black voters by voting to re-establish protections….”

Talk about clueless. The very fact that they were able to cross over and elect this clown shows there’s no need for “protections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

168 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:11:56pm

re: #163 Decatur Deb

‘Xactly, and with 3 kids I couldn’t justify the KY legal risk.

Nor the NC law, either. First time I smoked it w/a young woman friend was at my apt (kids were asleep) and I had a little window in my front door. I was paranoid as shit until we put a towel over it. Bwahahahahaha! Other people’s houses, it was OK. : )

169 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:13:22pm

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

1969 was the first time I smoked pot and I was 28.

My pops (Class of ‘65, he was 16 when he graduated) smoked a fair amount and quit in 1975 with the birth of my older sister. He and my mother got their medical cards about 3 years ago. Whenever I’m over at my folks place they always smoke a little before dinner. My pops is always telling me how strong the weed is compared to his days smoking in the late 60s and early 70s.

Yep, stoners have that shit down to a science. I actually like the really potent stuff, what I like to call one-hit-quit. I get my desired effect with much much less smoke.

170 CuriousLurker  Jun 26, 2014 7:13:58pm

re: #167 Lidane

What right-wing racism? //

171 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 7:16:02pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

My pops (Class of ‘65, he was 16 when he graduated) smoked a fair amount and quit in 1975 with the birth of my older sister. He and my mother got their medical cards about 3 years ago. Whenever I’m over at my folks place they always smoke a little before dinner. My pops is always telling me how strong the weed is compared to his days smoking in the late 60s and early 70s.

Yep, stoners have that shit down to a science. I actually like the really potent stuff, what I like to call one-hit-quit. I get my desired effect with much much less smoke.

When I started fighting glaucoma, my kid said he could find me some weed for the eyes. Internet digging shows it really does bring down the interocular pressures, but you have to stay pretty stoned all the time. Not a world I want to live in.

172 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:19:30pm

re: #171 Decatur Deb

When I started fighting glaucoma, my kid said he could find me some weed for the eyes. Internet digging shows it really does bring down the interocular pressures, but you have to stay pretty stoned all the time. Not a world I want to live in.

You just reminded me of an art teacher I had in college. He passed some years ago, Lud Stromeyer was his name, RIP. He had pretty bad glaucoma and he treated it with weed. Dude just reeked of the stuff everywhere he went. I can remember walking back to my apartment after class and he’d go to his minivan and just puff away for about 10 minutes. It was legal for him in those days as Colorado passed medical pot laws in 2000. IIRC he was one of 4 people in that whole county who were legally allowed to possess and use cannabis.

My how times have changed.

173 The War TARDIS  Jun 26, 2014 7:21:52pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Again, puts me at an impasse.

Being Muslim, MJ is haram (though in the Muslim nation of Bangladesh, it is legal, and apparently though illegal in Pakistan, is quite readily available.)

At the same time, I have heard of some people with Autism using it to relax and be less….anxious and stressed.

I would be lying if I said I wasn’t tempted by it. Being in OK helps, as it is illegal as hell. But if/when it gets legalized, temptation will get stronger. My medicines I am on right now are the most effective I have had, but they can’t completely kill the anxiety, only blunt it.

And I am already on a heavy dose of meds for this. 100mg of Trazodone every night, and 40 mg of Prozac every morning.

174 Decatur Deb  Jun 26, 2014 7:24:46pm

re: #173 The War TARDIS

Again, puts me at an impasse.

Being Muslim, MJ is haram (though in the Muslim nation of Bangladesh, it is legal, and apparently though illegal in Pakistan, is quite readily available.)

At the same time, I have heard of some people with Autism using it to relax and be less….anxious and stressed.

I would be lying if I said I wasn’t tempted by it. Being in OK helps, as it is illegal as hell. But if/when it gets legalized, temptation will get stronger. My medicines I am on right now are the most effective I have had, but they can’t completely kill the anxiety, only blunt it.

And I am already on a heavy dose of meds for this. 100mg of Trazodone every night, and 40 mg of Prozac every morning.

Look around for a controlled research study you can join. It’s hard to do science with street stuff—no real dose control. Even Baptists will do alcohol “for medicinal purposes”.

175 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 7:26:31pm

Gosh, remember hash oil? sigh

176 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:28:08pm

re: #173 The War TARDIS

Again, puts me at an impasse.

Being Muslim, MJ is haram (though in the Muslim nation of Bangladesh, it is legal, and apparently though illegal in Pakistan, is quite readily available.)

At the same time, I have heard of some people with Autism using it to relax and be less….anxious and stressed.

I would be lying if I said I wasn’t tempted by it. Being in OK helps, as it is illegal as hell. But if/when it gets legalized, temptation will get stronger. My medicines I am on right now are the most effective I have had, but they can’t completely kill the anxiety, only blunt it.

And I am already on a heavy dose of meds for this. 100mg of Trazodone every night, and 40 mg of Prozac every morning.

Would MJ be haram if it was ingested orally rather than smoked?

In the next few years there’s going to be some awesome breakthroughs with ingested cannabis. Families with kids who have awful seizure problems are moving to Colorado and finding that THC (the active ingredient in MJ) in very small doses can alleviate and sometimes prevent seizures in these children. Hell, even Sanjay Gupta saw the light with regards to MJ’s medical properties.

177 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:29:42pm

re: #175 prairiefire

Gosh, remember hash oil? sigh

You can buy syringes of hash oil for you digital pocket vaporizer at your local cannabis boutique in Colorado.

Seriously folks, it’s pretty surreal, even for a stoner ski bum like myself.

178 prairiefire  Jun 26, 2014 7:30:57pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Oh, my gosh. It is a wonder nowadays.

179 ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2014 7:32:17pm

klys,

If you are around or happen to come back to read the thread…I saw you mentioning hooking up a new ‘fridge.

It might be too late, or you may have already done it, but did you install an inline charcoal water filter on the line to your ice maker? They make them, usually they look like a big tube with small outlets on both ends. Usually about 1.75” round and 10” or so long. They have the compression fittings on them already to take the 1/4” copper feed line.

They really help out. They make clear cleaner ice. And the big benefit, they keep the salts and other sediment out of the small plumbing and mechanical parts of the ice maker. I swap mine out about every two years or so, and my ice maker has been faultless for close to 20 years.

And that reminds me, I do need to be getting a newer one for better energy use. So, whatever happens to the one I have, it still has a great ice maker.

Just something to consider.

180 klys  Jun 26, 2014 7:33:27pm

re: #179 ObserverArt

The new ones have them built in to the fridge, and the water for the icemaker is run through the filter beforehand.

But I appreciate the heads up. :)

181 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:34:54pm

re: #175 prairiefire

Gosh, remember hash oil? sigh

Actual hash was my favorite when I could get it, which for a short period, about 1970-72, there seemed to be a lot around where I was in NC. Those little foil packets friends would have…didn’t take much.

182 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:36:23pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

You can buy syringes of hash oil for you digital pocket vaporizer at your local cannabis boutique in Colorado.

Seriously folks, it’s pretty surreal, even for a stoner ski bum like myself.

I use a vaporizer instead of smoking these days. I would love to be able to get some of that.

For medicinal purposes, of course. : )

183 The War TARDIS  Jun 26, 2014 7:36:36pm

re: #177 teleskiguy

Live in OK now, to be near my Muslim community.

I will ask my Imam on this, because I do intend to move east at some point.

184 CuriousLurker  Jun 26, 2014 7:38:02pm

Gonna leave this over here since the other thread is still new.

Later, lizards.

185 ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2014 7:39:08pm

re: #175 prairiefire

Gosh, remember hash oil? sigh

It has not gone away.

I do not know where a friend of mine got it, but he had one of those e-cigs that was filled with a hash-like oil and the e-cig turned the oil into vapor. I’m not sure what they cost, but they work. Actually, it worked too well. I don’t smoke much anymore, and only at night after work, etc. A relaxant. And I like to have that time to also think creatively about design, art, music. Anyway, I tried it at a cookout at his place a couple months back. The first drag brought more than I was expecting and it had that old expansion thing going on. I was lit in a hit. You gotta go easy I guess.

Modern science. I can only think what they will make if it becomes legal everywhere.

186 ObserverArt  Jun 26, 2014 7:40:10pm

re: #180 klys

The new ones have them built in to the fridge, and the water for the icemaker is run through the filter beforehand.

But I appreciate the heads up. :)

Cool. Are they real easy to get and to change then?

187 sagehen  Jun 26, 2014 7:41:56pm

re: #169 teleskiguy

Yep, stoners have that shit down to a science. I actually like the really potent stuff, what I like to call one-hit-quit. I get my desired effect with much much less smoke.

I prefer it be weak… I like the ritual, and the taste, and I want to be able to smoke many multiples of bong hits while slowly ramping up the effect.

188 teleskiguy  Jun 26, 2014 7:43:09pm

re: #183 The War TARDIS

Live in OK now, to be near my Muslim community.

I will ask my Imam on this, because I do intend to move east at some point.

This might be going out on a limb, I don’t know, I’m not religious. Maybe tell you Imam this: “Allah created cannabis, it does grown naturally upon this planet. Men created alcohol. Who do you trust?”

Like I said, that might be pushing it, I don’t know specifically what Islam says about drugs.

Matter of fact, I’m clueless as to what almost all religions say about drugs. I only know about the LDS church (Mormons forbid all “intoxicants”, even caffeine!).

189 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:43:12pm

re: #187 sagehen

I prefer it be weak… I like the ritual, and the taste, and I want to be able to smoke many multiples of bong hits while slowly ramping up the effect.

Old timer!

190 Justanotherhuman  Jun 26, 2014 7:46:45pm

re: #183 The War TARDIS

Live in OK now, to be near my Muslim community.

I will ask my Imam on this, because I do intend to move east at some point.

He will tell you it’s haram because it’s an “intoxicant”, no doubt, just like alcohol.

191 klys  Jun 26, 2014 8:13:16pm

re: #186 ObserverArt

Cool. Are they real easy to get and to change then?

Yep. Front and center, between the veggie crispers.

192 Mich-again  Jun 26, 2014 8:23:25pm

There is no point trying to recall the tainted red meat, the hyenas gobbled it all up.


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