The Bob Cesca Show: Devil’s Triangle

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Devil’s Triangle — NSFW; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; Sexy Liberal DC recap; Bill Cosby sentenced; The world laughed at Trump today; Trump attacks Ford at UN; The Monday morning chaos; Trump uses Rosenstein to distract from Kavanaugh; Kavanaugh’s yearbook awfulness; Kavanaugh claims to have been a virgin; New allegations from two women; Michael Avenatti to represent woman who was gang raped; Choosing the next president; A final thought to the women; and so much more.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:20:24pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:21:22pm

re: #1 Patricia Kayden

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But the tip of the iceberg.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:26:12pm

Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding
When being one of the guys comes at a woman’s expense.
By Lili Loofbourow

“…These male witnesses universally remember nothing. Now, it’s possible they don’t remember because it never happened. Maybe they were too drunk to recall. Or maybe they’re tapping into a long tradition of male in-group protection, partly to avoid being implicated themselves. Mark Judge remembers nothing so much that he’s gone into hiding—his first and only comment to the journalist who tracked him down was, “How did you find me?” The other men Ramirez says were in the room at Yale also have “zero recollection.” It could be there’s just nothing to remember, but there are other possibilities, like a mutually exonerating code of male secrecy. Brett Kavanaugh is on the record instructing his buds to keep Omertà after a 2001 boat trip to Annapolis, Maryland—even from their wives. “Reminders to everyone to be very, very vigilant w/r/t confidentiality on all issues and all fronts, including with spouses,” he wrote after apologizing for a variety of things, including “growing aggressive after blowing still another game of dice.” By this time he wasn’t in high school. He was in the White House.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:29:47pm

re: #3 jaunte

Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding
When being one of the guys comes at a woman’s expense.
By Lili Loofbourow

Yeah there’s definitely that culture especially among older and more conservative men.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:33:04pm
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Nyet  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:35:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:35:53pm

re: #5 Patricia Kayden

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Of course, they don’t like him. Just as I’m sure Barzini didn’t like Tattaliga or Sollozzo but he loved using him to get to the Corleones.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:40:08pm
“Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday they will not be questioning Christine Blasey Ford about her sexual assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh later this week. Instead, they are hiring a woman as outside counsel to do it for them,” the HuffPost reports.

im wondering about this
judiciary committee or actually any senate committee

do they do this - hire someone outside to manage an investigation?
cause i assume it’s not just read like a court stenographer reading back

after the basic q’s, which of course the senators will have given to her, this person is going to direct where the questioning goes
she will choose what to follow up on and how
she will be ‘prosecuting’

has this been done?
is there precedent?

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:40:40pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:44:23pm

re: #9 jaunte

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Plot twist. He is a mutant hemorrhoid that grew in a lab and somehow gained the ability to speak.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:45:29pm

I got a late start on that, so I’ll have to quit early to make up for it.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:46:45pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:48:53pm

re: #5 Patricia Kayden

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Is that chair really that tall? Makes him look almost Edith Ann-ish.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:50:00pm

re: #12 Patricia Kayden

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“I didn’t even know what it was until Judge Kozinski showed me porn.”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:51:07pm

I’m waiting for Augh to blame Bill Clinton.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:52:04pm

re: #3 jaunte

Brett Kavanaugh and the Cruelty of Male Bonding
When being one of the guys comes at a woman’s expense.
By Lili Loofbourow

This. Getting drunk and performing for his buddies, at the expense of women. Teenage boys do it, I’ve seen it, and, to my shame, laughed at it. When you’re performing for your buddies, the women don’t really matter as people. They’re like NPCs in a game.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:52:07pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

“I didn’t even know what it was until Judge Kozinski showed me porn.”

And if he gets on the court he will want to see Clarence Thomas’s stash of pron.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:52:31pm

re: #9 jaunte

His older boys sit strangely too, in a way that would put the weight on a man’s testicles. So how do Trumps reproduce?

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:53:37pm

Change of place for something beautiful: Aerial photos of Iceland, more beautiful (IMO) than abstract art.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:54:01pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:55:24pm

re: #20 jaunte

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So they are admitting that if they speak it will become a sideshow?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:55:34pm

re: #20 jaunte

And they have no idea how tone deaf that sounds.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:55:39pm

re: #20 jaunte

That same old bunch of turkey gobblers—just seeing them makes my skin crawl. Individually, yes. As a group, exponential.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:56:07pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:56:24pm

re: #21 Eventual Carrion

So they are admitting that if they speak it will become a sideshow?

Sideshow, hell. It’ll be the center ring of the Circus.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:57:04pm

re: #20 jaunte

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Yeah because your staff aren’t as partisan as you. You’re just too chickenshit and you know you’ll blame your staff if and when you turn it into a shit show.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:57:49pm

For a nation of only 144 million or so, the Russians sure put a lot of energy into screwing around with other countries.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:58:40pm

re: #27 jaunte

For a nation of only 144 million or so, the Russians sure put a lot of energy into screwing around with other countries.

Half of their country is a frozen wasteland. What the hell else do they have to do?

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:58:41pm

re: #20 jaunte

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Translation: “We’re too chickenshit to be seen questioning a woman on live TV, so we’re bringing in a ringer to do the dirty work for us.”

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:59:24pm

re: #28 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Drink!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 2:59:34pm

re: #27 jaunte

For a nation of only 144 million or so, the Russians sure put a lot of energy into screwing around with other countries.

Hate to sound like Trump but a lot of it is a “shithole” so what else to do?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:00:12pm

re: #30 jaunte

Drink!

So much so that a number of people have died recently from drinking methanol…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:00:53pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:01:51pm

re: #30 jaunte

Drink!

-So I got this idea, we pretend to be Americans and spread idea that Donald Trump is a great American.
-That will never work. Americans aren’t that stupid.
- Oh yeah? Wait until you meet Pepe Frog
- You’ve been drinking too much, sleep it off.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:02:40pm

Obligatory ‘not all Russians.’

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:02:58pm

re: #33 Blind Frog Belly White

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The person who says that the most is a phony right wing intellectual who thinks he’s entitled to debate a Congressional candidate.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:03:14pm

re: #36 jaunte

Obligatory ‘not all Russians.’

I’m sure Sergey will appreciate the distinction, but in the aggregate, Russia is the country that is #1 on the list as far as problems with alcoholism.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:03:59pm

re: #38 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m sure Sergey will appreciate the distinction, but in the aggregate, Russia is the country that is #1 on the list as far as problems with alcoholism.

And Putin doesn’t give a fuck.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:04:03pm

re: #38 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Sure, I meant as far as screwing around with other countries. That’s Putin and his militarized mafia.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:04:15pm

I just want go on record as saying I’m a Christian and I DON’T support overturning Roe v. Wade.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:04:19pm

re: #40 jaunte

Sure, I meant as far as screwing around with other countries. That’s Putin and his militarized mafia.

That’s a fair point.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:04:27pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

I just want go on record as saying I’m a Christian and I DON’T support overturning Roe v. Wade.

Seconded.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:06:51pm
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Romantic Heretic  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:07:34pm

re: #22 Blind Frog Belly White

And they have no idea how tone deaf that sounds.

The GOP in a nutshell.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:08:08pm

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:08:35pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

I just want go on record as saying I’m a Christian and I DON’T support overturning Roe v. Wade.

It’s an alt-Christian thing.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:09:32pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

Translation: “We’re too chickenshit to be seen questioning a woman on live TV, so we’re bringing in a ringer to do the dirty work for us.”

I think they know they wouldn’t be able to control themselves from looking like a bunch of old cavemen.

What a sham this is going to be.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:10:13pm

re: #48 ObserverArt

I think they know they wouldn’t be able to control themselves from looking like a bunch of old cavemen.

What a sham this is going to be.

They look like cavemen just sitting there. They don’t even have to open their mouths.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:17:19pm

re: #49 retired cynic

They look like cavemen just sitting there. They don’t even have to open their mouths.

And they’re not going to be able to hold their peace either. They will interject, they will interrupt, they will override their own hired gun to bully Dr. Ford.

The same goes doubly for when Democrats ask questions, with Grassley acting blind and deaf to his fellow party members acting like jackasses.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:18:18pm

re: #46 retired cynic

Ah, the Protestant Slump.

I remember when my sister got married. The groom’s side were all Catholic, whereas the bride’s side were all Protestant (Sis converted to Catholic). When the priest said, “Let us pray”, the groom’s side all hit the kneeboards, and on the bride’s side all the chins dropped to chests.

I’d never been to a Catholic church. Until they prayed, I had no idea what those things were for. I thought, “Footrests?”, which seemed a little relaxed for a church.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:18:41pm

I’m curious about why Grassley hired a known sexual harasser to be an aide. I guess that’s not a deal breaker to them but being gay or non Christian is.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:19:23pm

re: #49 retired cynic

They look like cavemen just sitting there. They don’t even have to open their mouths.

True.

However, this is an admittance by the GOP old boys club themselves.

At least they are coming to grips with their own problems. I think that is actual growth for these guys. Too late for most of them.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:19:59pm

re: #27 jaunte

For a nation of only 144 million or so, the Russians sure put a lot of energy into screwing around with other countries.

It’s all part of Putin’s ploy to Make Russia Great Again. Greatness is relative — and since he cannot compete economically (as China seems to be doing), he must damage every other nation so that Russia is the last one left standing intact.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:21:40pm

re: #51 Blind Frog Belly White

Ah, the Protestant Slump.

I remember when my sister got married. The groom’s side were all Catholic, whereas the bride’s side were all Protestant (Sis converted to Catholic). When the priest said, “Let us pray”, the groom’s side all hit the kneeboards, and on the bride’s side all the chins dropped to chests.

I’d never been to a Catholic church. Until they prayed, I had no idea what those things were for. I thought, “Footrests?”, which seemed a little relaxed for a church.

Kneelers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:22:45pm

re: #53 ObserverArt

True.

However, this is an admittance by the GOP old boys club themselves.

At least they are coming to grips with their own problems. I think that is actual growth for these guys. Too late for most of them.

No — they are not coming to grips with their problems; their goal is to use whatever tool they have available to win, not to make any real changes in their behavior or policies. They got their tax cut, now they are headed to get their justice.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:24:11pm

Ari Melber is announcing Grassley is holding a Judiciary Committee vote Friday morning.

Sure gives them a lot of time to consider what they learn on Thursday.

Sham!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:24:44pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Ari Melber is announcing Grassley is holding a Judiciary Committee vote Friday morning.

Sure gives them a lot of time to consider what they learn on Thursday.

Sham!

As if that vote wasn’t already predestined to succeed.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:26:15pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Ari Melber is announcing Grassley is holding a Judiciary Committee vote Friday morning.

Sure gives them a lot of time to consider what they learn on Thursday.

Sham!

They don’t care what Ford says. They want the drunk creep on SCOTUS no matter what. I hope one of the Dems gets Augh to perjure himself again.

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BlueGrl21  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:26:46pm

Did an unscientific poll today with several of my girlfriends….name your Kavanaugh.

You know, that guy in high school that was always drunk at parties, rude, showing off in front of his friends by being a dick to women, and a touch rapey, if not more?

Every one of us could name at least one, most of us noted they travel in packs.

Try it, ladies and gentlemen. I’ll bet you can name them.

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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:27:30pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Ari Melber is announcing Grassley is holding a Judiciary Committee vote Friday morning.

Sure gives them a lot of time to consider what they learn on Thursday.

Sham!

We always knew the hearing was a formality, something they threw together just to check a box on the list before moving Kavanaugh over to the SCOTUS bench. If they really gave a damn how it looked, they would have delayed until an investigation was conducted.

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Nyet  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:27:56pm

The hive behavior of hyper-individualist libertarians.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:31:22pm
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:32:27pm
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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:33:27pm

Oo, speaking of milestones, I just passed 19000. Not anything like you folks aiming for six figures, but still…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:33:40pm

Michael Avenatti locked his account but just posted this…

Nothing has changed. Our plan has been consistent since this weekend. We surfaced the allegations before the client was ready to reveal her identify in order to give the committee and public a heads up.

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CarolJ  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:34:32pm

how do you find out your karma?

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Scottish Dragon  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:35:30pm

re: #68 CarolJ

how do you find out your karma?

It ran over your dogma.

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Chrysicat  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:36:56pm

re: #68 CarolJ

Click on your icon and it’s near the centre of the infobox that pops up.

You can check anyone else’s the same way.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:37:11pm

re: #65 jaunte

McConnell thought bubble: A lady lawyer? Why I do declare, whatever will they think of next?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:39:22pm

re: #70 Chrysicat

Click on your icon and it’s near the centre of the infobox that pops up.

You can check anyone else’s the same way.

I usually just swipe my Karma card in the reader at the prize table.

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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:41:52pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:42:11pm

re: #71 KGxvi

McConnell thought bubble: A lady lawyer? Why I do declare, whatever will they think of next?

Little Lady, how would you like to ask questions for us.//

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:44:12pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

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To be fair, he looks like that when he’s happy too which is when he’s writing letters to the San Francisco Chronicle with coded info.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:45:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:46:09pm

Politico says Kyl won’t commit to a vote for Kavanaugh.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:46:44pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:46:49pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

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Could have just eaten his food. No need to bite the poor dog.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:47:07pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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I thought they were satire.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:47:59pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Gee. That is what newspapers are looking for the man bites dog story. /half

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:48:54pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Politico says Kyl won’t commit to a vote for Kavanaugh.

I don’t believe Kyl, but, ok…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:51:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:51:52pm

re: #82 KGxvi

I don’t believe Kyl, but, ok…

I don’t either but it’s interesting given the language by Grassley, McConnell, & Graham.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:52:10pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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True you’re right.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:54:55pm

re: #50 Targetpractice

And they’re not going to be able to hold their peace either. They will interject, they will interrupt, they will override their own hired gun to bully Dr. Ford.

The same goes doubly for when Democrats ask questions, with Grassley acting blind and deaf to his fellow party members acting like jackasses.

and watch one of the dems go:

“you hired her over there to speak for you. now either take over yourself or be quiet”

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:55:34pm

So this serial abuser will help destroy every progressive thing that’s happened in our country in my lifetime and there isn’t anything anyone will do about it.

This just isn’t at all how I thought things were going to turn out for us.

Devastating.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:57:10pm

re: #87 plansbandc

So this serial abuser will help destroy every progressive thing that’s happened in our country in my lifetime and there isn’t anything anyone will do about it.

This just isn’t at all how I thought things were going to turn out for us.

Devastating.

I really thought Obama’s election would begot a Progressive Renaissance instead we got too purer than thou, ignored the fascists rising, & here we are. Kavanaugh and Trump must be stopped.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:57:24pm

re: #66 retired cynic

Oo, speaking of milestones, I just passed 19000. Not anything like you folks aiming for six figures, but still…

just keep swimming….

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:58:04pm

re: #87 plansbandc

So this serial abuser will help destroy every progressive thing that’s happened in our country in my lifetime and there isn’t anything anyone will do about it.

This just isn’t at all how I thought things were going to turn out for us.

Devastating.

The country has taken several bad turns over the years, and we always bounce back. People are stupid, so our politics swing like a pendulum.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:58:27pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

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adding cruz to make america kittens again

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:58:39pm

re: #66 retired cynic

I am very happy for you. :)

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 3:59:40pm

re: #8 dangerman

im wondering about this
judiciary committee or actually any senate committee

do they do this - hire someone outside to manage an investigation?
cause i assume it’s not just read like a court stenographer reading back

after the basic q’s, which of course the senators will have given to her, this person is going to direct where the questioning goes
she will choose what to follow up on and how
she will be ‘prosecuting’

has this been done?
is there precedent?

Also, I wonder if this is a fact, and how they’ll address it:

A Democratic staffer noted that there are rules on bringing in outside counsel. A person at a law firm would have to quit his or her job to do the questioning ― the individual could not take a leave of absence and could not do it pro bono.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:03:13pm

re: #87 plansbandc

So this serial abuser will help destroy every progressive thing that’s happened in our country in my lifetime and there isn’t anything anyone will do about it.

This just isn’t at all how I thought things were going to turn out for us.

Devastating.

Every single one of the Federalist Society recommendations would inflict this destruction, though most are probably not serial abusers. In fact, any Republican in the modern era would be equally destructive to the progress made under Obama. Voting for Republicans is voting to regress to the past.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:05:47pm

re: #94 Hecuba’s daughter

Every since one of the Federalist Society recommendations would inflict this destruction, though most are probably not serial abusers. In fact, any Republican in the modern era would be equally destructive to the progress made under Obama. Voting for Republicans is voting to regress to the past.

Which goes about as well as driving in reverse backing into traffic on an expressway. Time’s arrow points in one direction only.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:06:25pm

re: #73 Patricia Kayden

There sure are a lot of constipated looking people around anymore. I blame food fads and quack supplements.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:07:47pm

Politico has a survey of over 50 Latinos in Florida. The Trump approval ratings are… interesting…

Overall, he’s 47/50 favorable/unfavorable (32% very favorable, 43% very unfavorable). Among US born Latinos (which I assume includes Puerto Ricans) he’s 42/58 (28/51 on the verys). Foreign born Latinos though are 54/43 favorable (36/34 on the verys). And not shocking at all, among older Cubans he’s got 66/31 favorable (44% very favorable).

Of course, the Cuban numbers match up almost exactly to the Republican numbers, so I shouldn’t be too surprised.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:12:39pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Politico says Kyl won’t commit to a vote for Kavanaugh.

He’s close to the McCains. And the McCains would very much like to see Trump embarrassed.

Staying on Cindy and Megan’s good side might be more important than pleasing Grassley or McConnell.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:16:49pm

re: #98 sagehen

He’s close to the McCains. And the McCains would very much like to see Trump embarrassed.

Staying on Cindy and Megan’s good side might be more important than pleasing Grassley or McConnell.

There’s also the fact that if he changes his mind on running in 2020, being aligned with Trump could spell trouble.

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:27:54pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

I just want go on record as saying I’m a Christian and I DON’T support overturning Roe v. Wade.

Ditto (if you’ll pardon the expression ;)

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:31:16pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

Not a Christian but I do agree with you.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:31:48pm
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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:33:53pm

re: #41 Eclectic Cyborg

I just want go on record as saying I’m a Christian and I DON’T support overturning Roe v. Wade.

The amazing thing is, even though prolife/prochoice tends to poll around 50/50 in this country, support for overturning Roe is only at about 28% (64% oppose overturning it), and hasn’t been higher than 35% since the 1980s. That means there’s a lot of Christians who don’t support overturning the law.

Really, I think as a nation, we don’t know what we think about choice. When you ask specific questions, the numbers seem to be all over the place.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:35:11pm

Of course Kavanaugh had to throw red meat to the evangelicals with the “I went to an all-boys Jesuit high school and am as innocent as a choir boy” bullshit.

I too went to an all-boys Jesuit high school and do I have stories to tell about the varsity football guys.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:35:18pm

re: #102 Charles Johnson

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It’s a weisswurst I imagine.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:35:29pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:35:58pm

re: #7 HappyWarrior

Of course, they don’t like him. Just as I’m sure Barzini didn’t like Tattaliga or Sollozzo but he loved using him to get to the Corleones.

Tattaglia’s a pimp. He never could’ve out-fought Santino. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Barzini all along.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:38:49pm

re: #103 KGxvi

The amazing thing is, even though prolife/prochoice tends to poll around 50/50 in this country, support for overturning Roe is only at about 28% (64% oppose overturning it), and hasn’t been higher than 35% since the 1980s. That means there’s a lot of Christians who don’t support overturning the law.

Really, I think as a nation, we don’t know what we think about choice. When you ask specific questions, the numbers seem to be all over the place.

Kang had it right: Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. Exchanging long protein strings never caught on tho.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:40:23pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Trump: But we have the most bombs!
World: Sorry, we got things to do. We’ll call you later.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:40:42pm

re: #107 Ace Rothstein

Tattaglia’s a pimp. He never could’ve out-fought Santino. But I didn’t know until this day that it was Barzini all along.

Brilliant line. The movie is so brilliant.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:44:22pm

re: #98 sagehen

He’s close to the McCains. And the McCains would very much like to see Trump embarrassed.

Staying on Cindy and Megan’s good side might be more important than pleasing Grassley or McConnell.

Kyl was selected months ago to shepherd the nomination through the Senate. No way he’s going to vote against Kavanaugh. OTOH, if something really unexpected happens during the hearing or a devastating and credible revelation is reported, it’s possible Kavanaugh may withdraw his nomination.

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KGxvi  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:45:48pm

Apparently, I’m in a mood to read polls. The latest out of the California 39th has just some classic responses:

How closely are you following the election:
Very closely 15%
Somewhat closely 36%
Not too closely 49%

Trump approval/disapproval: 47/47 (remember it’s a Republican leaning district that voted for Clinton)

Most important issues:
Immigration policy 23%
Health care policy 22%
Gun control policy 15%
Abortion policy 7%
Tax policy 14%
Job creation policy 12%

Approval of the GOP tax plan:
Strongly approve 19%
Somewhat approve 18%
Somewhat disapprove 12%
Strongly disapprove 27%

(hold for laughter)

But it still looks like the GOP is going to hold that seat. Hopefully Kim isn’t a complete wingnut.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:45:48pm
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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:45:50pm

Absentee voted tonight since I’m moving out of the U.S. next week. Go Blue Wave!

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:45:58pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

My favorite scene (or in this case, shot) is when Corleone meets with all the heads of the five families in the boardroom at the hotel. Corleone states that he wants to make the peace, and when Tattaglia agrees, it cuts back to a low-angle shot of Corleone’s hands raising as Barzini’s eyes quickly go from Tattaglia to Corleone. It’s absolutely brilliant camera and editing work.

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steve_davis  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:46:40pm

re: #43 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Seconded.

trinitied.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:47:37pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:48:43pm
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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:50:07pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

Second brilliant line. Barzini: “Certainly he can present a bill for such services. After all, we are not communists.”

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:53:50pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

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So Collins has decided to reanimate his campaign and keep running…while under indictment.

Republicans have never known shame, but they certainly haven’t been so visible about it.

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wheat-dogg  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:54:16pm

re: #116 steve_davis

trinitied.

She’s calling in her vote now.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:55:16pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:56:39pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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The Republicans will never elect a black person, a brown person, or a woman as President as long as the party stays the way it is now.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:57:53pm

re: #119 Ace Rothstein

Second brilliant line. Barzini: “Certainly he can present a bill for such services. After all, we are not communists.”

Yep. Honestly some of my favorite acting in the whole series and this is because I love meta-acting (acting within acting) G.D. Spradlin as Senator Geary, the politician we see talking at Anthony’s First Communion mispronouncing the Corleone surname and the real Geary behind closed doors who can pronounce Corleone correctly. I’ve seen the series a lot so I no longer focus heavily on the Corleones but other characters like Geary. Al Neri, etc.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:58:15pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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Yeah they’re not going to nominate a woman lol.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 4:59:52pm

re: #118 Patricia Kayden

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I personally can think of nothing more American than speaking another language here. Collins is a fucking crook, bigot, and of course a Trump toady.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:02:43pm

Just watched Trump at the UN. Wanted to hear the laughter. Is it me or does the man seem impaired?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:03:02pm

I’m listening to Irish folk music while drinking an Irish coffee but with Slovak whiskey out of a coffee cup for the memorial named for my cousin Mike Strank. Yep mutt and proud.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:03:43pm

re: #124 HappyWarrior

The thing I love about Geary, is that when he goes into Michael’s office and makes his demands, Michael already knows everything about him, including his…”taste” in women.

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Ace Rothstein  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:03:58pm

re: #127 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s not you.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:04:02pm

Has nobody done this yet, or did I just miss it?

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:05:13pm

They did all they could to keep Trump under control so he wouldn’t attack Professor Ford.

So he gets on the world stage and what does the asshole do?

Attack Professor Ford.

A narcissist with no self control. What a danger to this country.

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PhillyPretzel  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:05:15pm

re: #131 Grunthos the Flatulent

I have not seen that anywhere else but here. It works very well.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:05:26pm

re: #131 Grunthos the Flatulent

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In my head, I did.

It’s dark in there, so you couldn’t see it.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:05:27pm

Not all news is bad.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:06:04pm

re: #129 Ace Rothstein

The thing I love about Geary, is that when he goes into Michael’s office and makes his demands, Michael already knows everything about him, including his…”taste” in women.

Yeah that’s a great observation. And then he gets the Woltz treatment. I love Frankie Five Fingers too. Amazing how we wouldn’t have had that character if Richard Castallano hadn’t understandly wanted more money for the part of Clemenza but I think it worked out. I can’t see Clemenza going state’s witness.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:06:48pm

re: #135 I Would Prefer Not To

Not all news is bad.

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My brother had the observation that people with “Bill Cosby for life” could have their signs interpreted both ways.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:07:06pm

re: #135 I Would Prefer Not To

Not all news is bad.

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First time in a long time he made me laugh.

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Citizen K  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:07:39pm

You know….for something called ‘presumption of innocence’, it tends to end up being treated as ‘projection of guilt’ instead. Kavanaugh’s ‘presumption of innocence’ hinges on casting guilt upon his accusers as liars, cons, and extremists all, as well as the immediacy of such counter-accusations. It’s the same bullshit that gets flipped when a PoC gets shot down by someone in a position of power, and the law ends up turned on its head and putting the dead on trial to preserve the ‘presumption of innocence’ of the accused. It really is never ‘innocent until proven guilty’. It’s just ‘slut until proven pure’. ‘Black until proven human’.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:09:55pm

But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. - Carl Sagan

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Sea Mexican!  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:10:19pm

Just when this couldn’t get more absurd: Ricky Rosselló quotes the Bible to ask for statehood. Not to help PR in the aftermath of María. Not to stop the PROMESA fiscal board from strangling the Puerto Rican workers. But to ask for a statehood that has been rejected several by the people, and only managed to “win” the last two referendums by defining the opposition as they saw fit.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:11:04pm

Charles, no disrespect, but: how in the F do you drive here in SoCal? Spent two exits on the 405 and I’m like DAMN YOU MOFOFAKAS NO ALOHA YOU SUMBITCH BASTARDOS.

I’ll be in my hotel room sucking on my thumb until the alcohol kicks in.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:11:36pm

re: #114 Old Liberal

Absentee voted tonight since I’m moving out of the U.S. next week. Go Blue Wave!

Where are you headed to? Was it the Trump election that prompted this decision?

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Teukka  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:11:57pm

Off topic, but…
TIL: The background to why I was raised not to withhold help when it is in my power to act. Finnish Criminal Code, 21st chapter:
14 § A person who renders another helpless or abandons a helpless person in respect of whom he or she has an obligation of care, and thereby endangers the life or health of said person, shall be sentenced for abandonment to a fine or to imprisonment for at most two years.
15 § A person who knows that another is in mortal danger or serious danger to his or her health, and does not give or procure such assistance that in view of his or her options and the nature of the situation can reasonably be expected, shall be sentenced for neglect of rescue to a fine or to imprisonment for at most six months.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:12:19pm
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Sea Mexican!  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:12:47pm

re: #141 Sea Mexican!

Forgot to include threaded tweet.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:13:36pm

re: #142 BigPapa

Charles, no disrespect, but: how in the F do you drive here in SoCal? Spent two exits on the 405 and I’m like DAMN YOU MOFOFAKAS NO ALOHA YOU SUMBITCH BASTARDOS.

I’ll be in my hotel room sucking on my thumb until the alcohol kicks in.

It’s true. There is no aloha on the 405.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:13:46pm

re: #145 Charles Johnson

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The old douches club really needs to close.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:14:02pm

re: #122 Charles Johnson

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Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:15:11pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

It’s true. There is no aloha on the 405.

You Southern Californians and your ‘the’ in front of the freeway numbers…..

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:15:29pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:16:13pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

Just ‘cause they’re right about Trump doesn’t make them right about much else. Even a blind pig finds an acorn every so often.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:16:46pm

Inhofe is a trash human. The ‘Ha ha they got help from those dayum Soros liberals, I know it sheeple’ smirk makes me want to throw a snowball at his liehole face.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:16:46pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

I never saw what impressed them so much about her. My memory of her is her bragging about her keeping the unions down in South Carolina. That one amuses me since my grandfather, a labor arbitrator no less was quoted in an article in the mid 60’s when Unions had much more influence than they do now about how Unions were slow to develop especially in states like SC. Plus she’s someone who got her start in part to Palin and I don’t like guilt by association but that means something and Jen ignores one big big thing- Republican voters love Trump. They’re not going to respond well to Haley or anyone leaving the administration to challenge him.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:17:40pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Just ‘cause they’re right about Trump doesn’t make them right about much else. Even a blind pig finds an acorn every so often.

True but to Jen’s credit, she’s criticized the entire party but you’re right. Being right about Trump isn’t hard.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:18:32pm

re: #153 BigPapa

Inhofe is a trash human. The ‘Ha ha they got help from those dayum Soros liberals, I know it sheeple’ smirk makes me want to throw a snowball at his liehole face.

Especially if said snowball has been stored in a frost-free freezer, so it’s gone through a couple freeze/thaw cycles and has hardened into an iceball…….

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:18:46pm

re: #153 BigPapa

Inhofe is a trash human. The ‘Ha ha they got help from those dayum Soros liberals, I know it sheeple’ smirk makes me want to throw a snowball at his liehole face.

The most pathetic thing is people like Inhofe who spread this shit about Soros are bought and paid for by people like Adelson, the Mercers, and Kochs. Marco Rubio was almost wearing a “Property of Sheldon Adelson tag” on his ass in the primaries.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:19:30pm

re: #155 HappyWarrior

True but to Jen’s credit, she’s criticized the entire party but you’re right. Being right about Trump isn’t hard.

And yet so many can’t manage it.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:19:34pm

re: #112 KGxvi

Approval of the GOP tax plan:
Strongly approve 19%
Somewhat approve 18%
Somewhat disapprove 12%
Strongly disapprove 27%

(hold for laughter)

But it still looks like the GOP is going to hold that seat. Hopefully Kim isn’t a complete wingnut.

Cali R’s like tax cuts as much as any other R’s… but disallowing the SALT deduction makes it a little more complicated for them.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:19:52pm

TBH if Republicans want to seriously look to a future beyond Trump, look at Baker, Hogan, and I know our Ohioans don’t want to hear it but Kasich. People who actually don’t operate in fear of Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:20:12pm

re: #158 Blind Frog Belly White

And yet so many can’t manage it.

I know. I just don’t get it.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:21:45pm

dear mitch and chuck:

congratulations, you did it.

you plowed an accused rapist through the senate and forced him onto the court
you did it in the face of loud protestations and active resistance

be proud.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:22:08pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

I know. I just don’t get it.

It’s your lack of racial animus, and having an IQ higher than room temperature expressed as degrees Celsius.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:22:11pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

You Southern Californians and your ‘the’ in front of the freeway numbers…..

I haven’t been back since 1995, but I still do it. With State Highways, too.

re: #142 BigPapa

Charles, no disrespect, but: how in the F do you drive here in SoCal? Spent two exits on the 405 and I’m like DAMN YOU MOFOFAKAS NO ALOHA YOU SUMBITCH BASTARDOS.

I’ll be in my hotel room sucking on my thumb until the alcohol kicks in.

Last time I was there, I drove my mom to the LA airport. The traffic was bumper to bumper. She said, ‘Oh, we should have left a little earlier.’ We had departed at 3 AM.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:23:42pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

You Southern Californians and your ‘the’ in front of the freeway numbers…..

That should be our shibboleth in Washington. In the bible it was the Jordan river, but nobody should be allowed to cross the Columbia river if they stick “the” in front of everything. “The I-5”, “The Puget Sound”. Drives me nuts.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:24:08pm

re: #164 wrenchwench

I haven’t been back since 1995, but I still do it. With State Highways, too.

Last time I was there, I drove my mom to the LA airport. The traffic was bumper to bumper. She said, ‘Oh, we should have left a little earlier.’ We had departed at 3 AM.

Traffic’s not as bad here. There are some times when simply leaving 10 minutes later gets you there a lot faster. Mrs. FBW and I joke that you could have gotten there sooner if you’d left a little later.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:25:03pm

re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White

Just ‘cause they’re right about Trump doesn’t make them right about much else. Even a blind pig finds an acorn every so often.

I agree and subscribe to the enemy of my enemy is like just another asshole, but Jen has been calling out Republicans, not just Trump. I figured it would take her true love, Mitt, to get her back on track, but Nikki Haley?

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:25:07pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy. Stopping Trump, and in the immediate future, Kavanaugh, is what’s important.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:25:59pm

re: #165 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

That should be our shibboleth in Washington. In the bible it was the Jordan river, but nobody should be allowed to cross the Columbia river if they stick “the” in front of everything. “The I-5”, “The Puget Sound”. Drives me nuts.

‘Sokay. Here we do things like doubly naming things with Spanish names, like Los Altos Hills, or Little Lagunitas Lake. We also add unnecessary articles occasionally, like “The El Camino”

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:26:43pm

re: #166 Blind Frog Belly White

Traffic’s not as bad here. There are some times when simply leaving 10 minutes later gets you there a lot faster. Mrs. FBW and I joke that you could have gotten there sooner if you’d left a little later.

‘Traffic’ here is 5 cars at the stop light. It’s the only place I have lived that has decreased in population. Town and county, but not state.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:26:43pm

re: #141 Sea Mexican!

Making Puerto Rico an actual star-on-the-flag state is the best way to get help to it. Do you think people would have cared about the lava flow on the territory of Hawaii?

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:27:14pm

It’s amazing that after so many years of seeing and hearing the rhetoric of the right it’s only based on very few fundamental rules. First and foremost, projection onto liberals which includes the flipping of scripts to their alternate reality. For every slur about Sonos it’s coming from somebody infested with propaganda funded by Scaife/Mercer/Koch.

I’m 24 our of 43 chapters deep in Fear. Nothing none of us didn’t know already, but all the depth, nuance, and swear words painting a more complex picture. A picture of a mind numbingly stupid moron that sounds like he’s been listening to AM radio and watching Fox for years. That’s what I’m left with so far: our government on AM Radio.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:27:34pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

My brother had the observation that people with “Bill Cosby for life” could have their signs interpreted both ways.

Kind of like the whole “Love Trumps Hate” thing from the election.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:28:42pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:29:03pm

Are we still talking about roads in Southern California?

The Californians: Stuart Has Cancer - SNL

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:29:39pm

re: #167 BeachDem

I agree and subscribe to the enemy of my enemy is like just another asshole, but Jen has been calling out Republicans, not just Trump. I figured it would take her true love, Mitt, to get her back on track, but Nikki Haley?

Jen is hoping there are existing Republicans who can allow the GOP to survive as a party and she has (mis)placed that faith in Nikki. Nikki isn’t an ideologue; maybe she will see the light and join the resistance. But probably not

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Teukka  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:30:09pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

My brother had the observation that people with “Bill Cosby for life” could have their signs interpreted both ways.

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

Kind of like the whole “Love Trumps Hate” thing from the election.

Now that could be an idea for a new line of Anti-Trump slogans… Can be interpreted both ways, followed by an asterisk, which in very fine print says that we have to toe the line because snowflakes etc. etc. etc.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:30:17pm

re: #174 Belafon

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That’s unheard of. I’ve never known AI to comment on a SCOTUS pick.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:30:46pm

Prediction: GOP will confirm Kavanagh at 9 PM on Saturday night when they think no ones watching.

Second Prediction: Kavanagh getting Confirmed will embolden Trump to fire Rosenstein.

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:30:52pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

‘Sokay. Here we do things like doubly naming things with Spanish names, like Los Altos Hills, or Little Lagunitas Lake. We also add unnecessary articles occasionally, like “The El Camino”

My favorite:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:31:09pm

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

Jen is hoping there are existing Republicans who can allow the GOP to survive as a party and she has (mis)placed that faith in Nikki. Nikki isn’t an ideologue; maybe she will see the light and join the resistance. But probably not

I think BD can tell us more about Haley. She knows her better than anyone else here. I don’t know of any other SC lizards.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:31:26pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

‘Traffic’ here is 5 cars at the stop light. It’s the only place I have lived that has decreased in population. Town and county, but not state.

Sometimes, creeping along in stop-and-go traffic on 101, I think back to when my Mom would take the Battlefield roads to go around the outside of Gettysburg, so she could ‘avoid all the traffic’ of going through town.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:31:31pm

re: #178 HappyWarrior

That’s unheard of. I’ve never known AI to comment on a SCOTUS pick.

Welcome to fucking 2018, where’s the booze?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:32:01pm

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Welcome to fucking 2018, where’s the booze?

I already had my Irish Slovak coffee!

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:32:20pm

re: #157 HappyWarrior

The most pathetic thing is people like Inhofe who spread this shit about Soros are bought and paid for by people like Adelson, the Mercers, and Kochs. Marco Rubio was almost wearing a “Property of Sheldon Adelson tag” on his ass in the primaries.

I hate the Republican politicians as much as anyone.

But the reason Marco Rubio can get away with acting like he is not equally bought and sold is no one holds him responsible for the claim and checks to see who is giving money to him.

In other words the real problem in American politics is the American people.

They are the ones that buy Soros is some evil Democratic money machine and completely ignore willingly someone like the Kochs or Alderson.

The same people bought Trump and still buy his con job.

That is our problem.

Politicians do it because they can. You can only go as far as someone lets you. And Trump has set a new example and now the Republicans are more bold and mouthy than ever.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:32:36pm

re: #169 Blind Frog Belly White

‘Sokay. Here we do things like doubly naming things with Spanish names, like Los Altos Hills, or Little Lagunitas Lake. We also add unnecessary articles occasionally, like “The El Camino”

I suppose the Spanish influence in California is to blame—although the ignorance of Spanish in the last one militates against that. It seems to this English speaker that the Romance languages overuse the definite article to the point that it’s completely lost its force.

I don’t blame people as much for “the hoi polloi”—Greek isn’t as familiar as Spanish. But that’s the same as “the El Camino”.

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fern01  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:34:10pm

re: #8 dangerman

“Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee said Tuesday they will not be questioning Christine Blasey Ford about her sexual assault allegations against Brett Kavanaugh later this week. Instead, they are hiring a woman as outside counsel to do it for them,” the HuffPost reports.

I wonder if Dr Blasey Ford could outsource her replies to a man she employs as outside counsel.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:34:26pm

re: #176 Hecuba’s daughter

Jen is hoping there are existing Republicans who can allow the GOP to survive as a party and she has (mis)placed that faith in Nikki. Nikki isn’t an ideologue; maybe she will see the light and join the resistance. But probably not

Someone needs to sit down and watch Captain America: Civil War with her and tell her that she’s Nick Fury and that the GOP is SHIELD. It’s too late to save it, Jen.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:34:41pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

I hate the Republican politicians as much as anyone.

But the reason Marco Rubio can get away with acting like he is not equally bought and sold is no one holds him responsible for the claim and checks to see who is giving money to him.

In other words the real problem in American politics is the American people.

They are the ones that buy Soros is some evil Democratic money machine and completely ignore willingly someone like the Kochs or Alderson.

The same people bought Trump and still buy his con job.

That is our problem.

Politicians do it because they can. You can only go as far as someone lets you. And Trump has set a new example and now the Republicans are more bold and mouthy than ever.

I really think we’ll look back at CU as that decision that really made things suck. Politicians should be accountable to the voters not some shadowy millionaire or billionaire. My big problem with Roberts’ majority opinion in CU is the strict implication some speech means more than others. I would have frankly admittingly felt more comfortable with the decision if labor were on a more equal playing field like it used to.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:35:16pm

re: #186 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s the same with French in Louisiana. Some places go by the traditional French pronunciation and others go with a bastardized English version.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:35:37pm

re: #188 Belafon

Someone needs to sit down and watch Captain America: Civil War with her and tell her that she’s Nick Fury and that the GOP is SHIELD. It’s too late to save it, Jen.

Probably sees herself as Agent Coulson.

“It’s a magical place.”

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:37:19pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

I hate the Republican politicians as much as anyone.

But the reason Marco Rubio can get away with acting like he is not equally bought and sold is no one holds him responsible for the claim and checks to see who is giving money to him.

In other words the real problem in American politics is the American people.

They are the ones that buy Soros is some evil Democratic money machine and completely ignore willingly someone like the Kochs or Alderson.

The same people bought Trump and still buy his con job.

That is our problem.

Politicians do it because they can. You can only go as far as someone lets you. And Trump has set a new example and now the Republicans are more bold and mouthy than ever.

That’s my biggest reason for pushing Democrats to stay together. The only way we’re going to fix that is to keep defeating the right, until they are forced to abandon their fucked up world view. But we can only do it together.

Yep, to once again go to the Marvel Universe, we are the Avengers.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:38:28pm

I mean I guess as someone who has done party politics, maybe I do a little get why they want to save it but there seems to be no introspection about why they’re here even by some of the most party critical ones like Ana or Jen. Jen I don’t think wants to admit Romney whom she championed played a big role in why the GOP is such a xenophobic shithole. And Ana worked for Jeb who wasn’t exactly great either with his signing legislation banning gay couples from adopting and his actions with Terri Schiavo and what’s more Ana I believe was working for Jeb at that time, Jen was just someone boosting Romney, I don’t think she’s ever actually been on an elected person’s staff.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:38:32pm

re: #190 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s the same with French in Louisiana. Some places go by the traditional French pronunciation and others go with a bastardized English version.

I think the farther South you go, the more Spanish the pronunciation of the Spanish words gets. e.g. La Jolla near San Diego is pronounced “La Hoya”, but in NorCal, Vallejo is pronounce “Vallayo”.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:39:18pm

re: #192 Belafon

That’s my biggest reason for pushing Democrats to stay together. The only way we’re going to fix that is to keep defeating the right, until they are forced to abandon their fucked up world view. But we can only do it together.

Yep, to once again go to the Marvel Universe, we are the Avengers.

We need both principles but also an understanding that what we choose to focus on will depend on our district and or state.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:41:07pm

re: #192 Belafon

That’s my biggest reason for pushing Democrats to stay together. The only way we’re going to fix that is to keep defeating the right, until they are forced to abandon their fucked up world view. But we can only do it together.

Yep, to once again go to the Marvel Universe, we are the Avengers.

I get to be Hawkeye. I’ve even got the Bow’n’arras!

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wrenchwench  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:41:31pm

re: #194 Blind Frog Belly White

I think the farther South you go, the more Spanish the pronunciation of the Spanish words gets. e.g. La Jolla near San Diego is pronounced “La Hoya”, but in NorCal, Vallejo is pronounce “Vallayo”.

I spent a month in Mexico. As I traveled north on my return, the spoken Spanish slowed down and became more understandable to me.

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Interesting Times  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:44:49pm

re: #185 ObserverArt

Politicians do it because they can. You can only go as far as someone lets you. And Trump has set a new example and now the Republicans are more bold and mouthy than ever.

Exactly. And I have to say - harsh as this may sound - that I’m getting sick and tired of people (politicians, pundits, etc) saying “we are better than this.”

Really?

62 million Americans responded to “Love trumps hate” with “Yes, we do.” 62 million Americans love what’s happening now. They love the racism, they love the bullying, they love the corruption, they love the misogyny and the death threats and the children in cages because durr hurr herp derp OWN TEH LIBZ!!!1!!!

And as long as those people are coddled and enabled and empowered, America is not “better than this.” Unless things change drastically after the midterms - as Childish Gambino says - this is America.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:45:03pm

Talk loudly and carry a small dick.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:45:10pm

Frankly the big elephant in the room is Reagan. And I get how denouncing Reagan’s arguably poisonous influence on the GOP long term may as well be being critical of FDR in Democratic circles but there isn’t anything like the centrist movement that emerged within the Dems that started to realize that what worked for FDR wasn’t going to work in the 1990’s and in the 20th century. Every type of Republican in some way sees their movement as the heirs of Ronnie in some way. No one has the balls to admit that it’s a different era and that maybe Ronnie wasn’t all that anyhow.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:46:23pm

re: #196 Blind Frog Belly White

I get to be Hawkeye. I’ve even got the Bow’n’arras!

Captain America checking in.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:46:24pm

re: #199 Blind Frog Belly White

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Talk loudly and carry a small dick.

That may bother him most of all. All that shit about how “THEY’RE LAUGHING AT US” under Obama only to get elected himself and be the subject of mockery and the laughter and amusement fits what the Europeans I’ve talked to have said. Not many of them seem afraid of him but more amused that we could elect such a moron.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:48:18pm

vegan chili and BLT Steak / Williams Sonoma Popovers

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:48:55pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

That may bother him most of all. All that shit about how “THEY’RE LAUGHING AT US” under Obama only to get elected himself and be the subject of mockery and the laughter and amusement fits what the Europeans I’ve talked to have said. Not many of them seem afraid of him but more amused that we could elect such a moron.

He’s a weak man’s idea of how a strong person acts.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:51:24pm

re: #203 dangerman

Not bad. Tomorrow night at the fish household is my locally famous chicken biryani.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:51:37pm

re: #204 Blind Frog Belly White

He’s a weak man’s idea of how a strong person acts.

It amuses me so much that the people who talk about betas, cucks, and soy all think this guy is tough. I wasn’t a big John McCain as a politician but as a man, he was tough as hell. Stupid Trump didn’t even seem to know that McCain REFUSED the NVA’s offer to exchange him because he was an admiral’s kid. At least with Republicans like McCain and Dole, you could think their policies were bad but you could look at them and see men that believed in serving their country. Same thing with the older Bush. The guy served the country every way he could while he rose through the ranks. Never got that vibe from Mitt or Trump.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:51:52pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:52:02pm

Man, he’s *really* orange.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:52:50pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

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Man, he’s *really* orange.

Ooompa Loopa, Stupid Did Dee.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:52:51pm

re: #200 HappyWarrior

Frankly the big elephant in the room is Reagan. And I get how denouncing Reagan’s arguably poisonous influence on the GOP long term may as well be being critical of FDR in Democratic circles but there isn’t anything like the centrist movement that emerged within the Dems that started to realize that what worked for FDR wasn’t going to work in the 1990’s and in the 20th century. Every type of Republican in some way sees their movement as the heirs of Ronnie in some way. No one has the balls to admit that it’s a different era and that maybe Ronnie wasn’t all that anyhow.

Plus, Reagan actually knew how to cut deals - start off demanding way more than you expect to get, then allow yourself to be argued down to where you want to end up. Obama used to drive me around the bend by starting out where he wanted to end up.

And Reagan, for all the talk of cutting taxes and shrinking government, passed the largest tax HIKE up to that point, the FICA tax hike in 1983 to save Social Security.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:54:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:54:40pm

re: #210 Blind Frog Belly White

Plus, Reagan actually knew how to cut deals - start off demanding way more than you expect to get, then allow yourself to be argued down to where you want to end up. Obama used to drive me around the bend by starting out where he wanted to end up.

And Reagan, for all the talk of cutting taxes and shrinking government, passed the largest tax HIKE up to that point, the FICA tax hike in 1983 to save Social Security.

That’s true. They love ‘76 primarying Ford- Reagan that scared the crap outta my grandfather. I still think Reagan was a poor President but he was better than the shit show they have now or want from their leaders.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:55:32pm

re: #211 Single-handed sailor

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Of course, she lied. The question is what happens. So she goes. Trump replaces her with someone even more hideous.

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:55:49pm

re: #168 Belafon

e: #149 BeachDem

Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

SRSLY? Nikki Haley is a sort of Chauncey Gardner of Republican politics: not much of a record, little to recommend her, no real “talents” other than being a faithful GOP drone, and generally not (politically) slipping in puddles of her own vomit. That, and being a “model minority”, of course. And she shows up (which, unfortunately, counts for more than it should).
Yet somehow, this run-of-the-mill party hack keeps getting mentioned ever and anon as some sort of Great Republican Hope For The Future. Bleccch.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:56:10pm

re: #206 HappyWarrior

It amuses me so much that the people who talk about betas, cucks, and soy all think this guy is tough. I wasn’t a big John McCain as a politician but as a man, he was tough as hell. Stupid Trump didn’t even seem to know that McCain REFUSED the NVA’s offer to exchange him because he was an admiral’s kid. At least with Republicans like McCain and Dole, you could think their policies were bad but you could look at them and see men that believed in serving their country. Same thing with the older Bush. The guy served the country every way he could while he rose through the ranks. Never got that vibe from Mitt or Trump.

Big, tough men don’t go anywhere without a big ass gun - even to bed or to take a shit! If they didn’t, they’d be killed FOR SURE!!

It’s only beta cuck soyboys who don’t carry guns! (and yet somehow manage to go through their entire lives without needing one.)

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:59:11pm

re: #212 HappyWarrior

That’s true. They love ‘76 primarying Ford- Reagan that scared the crap outta my grandfather. I still think Reagan was a poor President but he was better than the shit show they have now or want from their leaders.

The actual Reagan was a much more reasonable President than the Zombie Reagan that the Right remembers. In their minds, he was a lot more like Trump than he really was.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:59:13pm

re: #211 Single-handed sailor

It’s the Golden rule in Trump world: Everyone lies.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:59:47pm

re: #215 Blind Frog Belly White

Big, tough men don’t go anywhere without a big ass gun - even to bed or to take a shit! If they didn’t, they’d be killed FOR SURE!!

It’s only beta cuck soyboys who don’t carry guns! (and yet somehow manage to go through their entire lives without needing one.)

You know? I’ve only shot once and I’ve never felt the need to carry one around with me especially open carry. I choose not to be paranoid about the people around me. And I’ve traveled far more than many of these people. Their idea of a tough guy is a 12 year old watching an action movie. OOOOH HE TALKS SHIT, HE MUST BE TOUGH! When the real tough guy is that quiet guy who doesn’t wear his emotions on his sleeve but knows how to get shit done when he needs to. When HW Bush was the Navy’s youngest fighter pilot in WWII, no one knew he was the son of a very wealthy businessman. The making of Donald Trump who quite honestly is one of the wimpiest men I’ve ever seen into an American bad ass amuses me. You don’t need to serve in the military to be bad ass mind you but you do need a quiet dignity about you which Trump has hever had.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 5:59:51pm

re: #214 Jay C

SRSLY? Nikki Haley is a sort of Chauncey Gardner of Republican politics: not much of a record, little to recommend her, no real “talents” other than being a faithful GOP drone, and generally not (politically) slipping in puddles of her own vomit. That, and being a “model minority”, of course. And she shows up (which, unfortunately, counts for more than it should).
Yet somehow, this run-of-the-mill party hack keeps getting mentioned ever and anon as some sort of Great Republican Hope For The Future. Bleccch.

The GOP elected both Bush (the lesser) and Trump as President; wouldn’t Nikki be an improvement on either one?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:00:35pm

Also, the UN thing today again underscored how abysmal Trump is when he gets outside his echo chamber.

The world is literally LAUGHING AT US for electing such a buffoon.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:01:19pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Of course, she lied. The question is what happens. So she goes. Trump replaces her with someone even more hideous.

Did she actually commit perjury — or did she just lie?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:01:40pm

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP elected both Bush (the lesser) and Trump as President; wouldn’t Nikki be an improvement on either one?

Well the BBQ rib sandwich at my elementary school’s cafeteria was better than their pizza but I still would rather have and did in fact bring my own lunch. I’m not impressed by Haley at all.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:02:15pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Did she actually commit perjury — or did she just lie?

I’d think just lied since no way the GOP would have her under oath about this.

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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:02:39pm

re: #143 Hecuba’s daughter

Where are you headed to? Was it the Trump election that prompted this decision?

Heading to South America. I am diabetic, and the relentless assaults on the Affordable Care Act hover over me relentlessly. Every year since 2010 I have been on the edge of my chair wondering if the Republicans were going to fuck me over. I finally decided that I would just go somewhere where insulin is cheaper and enjoy my life again.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:02:55pm

re: #201 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Captain America checking in.

I tell my kids I would like to be Tony Stark, but I know I’m Bruce Banner.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:03:14pm

re: #220 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, the UN thing today again underscored how abysmal Trump is when he gets outside his echo chamber.

The world is literally LAUGHING AT US for electing such a buffoon.

Which is why he loves his rallies. His rallies are where he goes to feel safe. You know a safe space. Yet another version of Trump being the weak person that conservatives think liberals are. Meanwhile Beto O’Rourke is going to every county in Texas.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:04:02pm

re: #225 Belafon

I tell my kids I would like to be Tony Stark, but I know I’m Bruce Banner.

“Don’t make me angry. You wouldn’t like me when I’m angry!”

“I don’t like you NOW.”
//

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:04:09pm

Murphy’s ready to fight:

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:04:50pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

You Southern Californians and your ‘the’ in front of the freeway numbers…..

We do it in Nevada, too.

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Sea Mexican!  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:05:10pm

re: #171 Belafon

Making Puerto Rico an actual star-on-the-flag state is the best way to get help to it. Do you think people would have cared about the lava flow on the territory of Hawaii?

There are many ways to argue in favor of statehood. I don’t think quoting the Bible is the most appropriate one. Especially a passage about speaking in favor of the less fortunate.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:05:31pm

re: #149 BeachDem

Jennifer Rubin going back to her “roots” has been yakking up Icky Nikki as well. (I really thought Jen was coming over from the dark side, but…)

In sum, Haley has shown she has political skills few other Republicans possess. If she really is as politically deft as I think, she will leave in the next few months and start her own “listening” tour. Coming soon to a state fair in Iowa? Watch for it.

washingtonpost.com

Ugh. Nikki Haley.

Here’s my slogan for whomever runs against her: “She worked for Trump.”

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:06:10pm

In the Trump UN speech today, the worst part: he didn’t know they were laughing at him.

The Emperor’s Clothes have been off for some time.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:06:11pm

re: #229 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

We do it in Nevada, too.

You have more freeways than just I-80?
//

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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:06:44pm

OH HAI.

I have been offline for 2 days celebrating with my family. What have I missed?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:06:54pm

re: #232 BigPapa

In the Trump UN speech today, the worst part: he didn’t know they were laughing at him.

The Emperor’s Clothes have been off for some time.

He knew. That’s why he was so belligerent about Deborah Ramirez’ allegations, a while later.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:07:43pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI.

I have been offline for 2 days celebrating with my family. What have I missed?

Giphy

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:07:56pm

re: #150 Blind Frog Belly White

You Southern Californians and your ‘the’ in front of the freeway numbers…..

West Coast Freeway Elitists

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Jay C  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:08:01pm

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

re: #222 HappyWarrior

Even leaving aside the fact that electing Donald Trump to the US Presidency has “lowered the bar” to bottom-of-the-Marianas-Trench level, that still (IMHO) doesn’t make Nikki Haley all that attractive as a candidate (for anything). Maybe it’s because her usual response to serious questions mainly seems to be a deer-in-the-headlights stare?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:08:13pm

re: #229 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

We do it in Nevada, too.

Canada too. Ask any Southern Ontarian about “the 401”.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:08:14pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

He’s not wrong, you know.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:08:49pm

re: #234 The Vicious Babushka

OH HAI.

I have been offline for 2 days celebrating with my family. What have I missed?

This:

And this:

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:09:32pm

re: #224 Old Liberal

Heading to South America. I am diabetic, and the relentless assaults on the Affordable Care Act hover over me relentlessly. Every year since 2010 I have been on the edge of my chair wondering if the Republicans were going to fuck me over. I finally decided that I would just go somewhere where insulin is cheaper and enjoy my life again.

Good luck!! My nephew and I were down in Puerto Vallarta for 6 weeks this summer; medical treatment seemed good and the costs were a fraction of here. He unexpectedly needed an EKG and was worried about the cost — turned out it was only 400 pesos (about $22).

If we survive the Trump disaster and get a solid Democrat into office in 2020 (and a Democratic Congress before then), you may be able to return here. And certainly, once you are eligible for Medicare, the medication will be affordable again.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:10:03pm

re: #235 Blind Frog Belly White

He knew. That’s why he was so belligerent about Deborah Ramirez’ allegations, a while later.

Ya, I was like did he really know or not? I keep coming back to him thinking they were ‘with’ him. His comment about ‘I didn’t expect that’ seemed aloof.

If he knew they were laughing at him he’s going to be seething for days. Like China Syndrome seething.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:10:14pm

re: #238 Jay C

Even leaving aside the fact that electing Donald Trump to the US Presidency has “lowered the bar” to bottom-of-the-Marianas-Trench level, that still (IMHO) doesn’t make Nikki Haley all that attractive as a candidate (for anything). Maybe it’s because her usual response to serious questions mainly seems to be a deer-in-the-headlights stare?

That’s exactly what I’m trying to say.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:10:27pm

re: #236 teleskiguy

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And what they’re really not showing you is that’s a circular road and it’s live.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:11:26pm

re: #144 Teukka

Off topic, but…
TIL: The background to why I was raised not to withhold help when it is in my power to act. Finnish Criminal Code, 21st chapter:
14 § A person who renders another helpless or abandons a helpless person in respect of whom he or she has an obligation of care, and thereby endangers the life or health of said person, shall be sentenced for abandonment to a fine or to imprisonment for at most two years.
15 § A person who knows that another is in mortal danger or serious danger to his or her health, and does not give or procure such assistance that in view of his or her options and the nature of the situation can reasonably be expected, shall be sentenced for neglect of rescue to a fine or to imprisonment for at most six months.

Oh, how timely. Locally. A woman I know, in great distress, tried to kill herself late one night last week by pills. She ended up on her yard, having nearly bit her tongue in two, unconscious and bleeding. Her… man cohabiting, I’ll say, came out the next morning, stepped around her and went to work. Her son found her a few hours later, and she is safely in hospital. Has a long recovery ahead. But there are a number of us in this small community that would like to do something to charge that creature with who just walked away. Not sure if anyone else in the really tiny (<100) town saw her, and did likewise. Disgusting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:11:37pm

re: #245 Belafon

And what they’re really not showing you is that’s a circular road and it’s live.

Lol, that’s what I always think when I see that GIF.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:11:41pm

re: #243 BigPapa

Ya, I was like did he really know or not? I keep coming back to him thinking they were ‘with’ him. His comment about ‘I didn’t expect that’ seemed aloof.

If he knew they were laughing at him he’s going to be seething for days. Like China Syndrome seething.

Remember, after Obama ridiculed him at the Correspondents’ Dinner, he said the same kind of ‘We had a good time’ thing he did today. Being laughed at when he didn’t mean to is REALLY BAD to him.

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gocart mozart  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:11:42pm
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Sea Mexican!  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:12:32pm

When Disaster Capitalism Comes for the University of Puerto Rico

As the University of Puerto Rico (UPR) begins a new semester, its future is anything but certain. Hurricane María dealt a blow to its infrastructure last year; now, both the federal and local governments seem intent on further damaging the island’s public-university system rather than repairing and strengthening this crucial asset for Puerto Rico’s socioeconomic development. In a territory with soaring poverty and unemployment rates, students face a 100 percent increase in tuition alongside the elimination of the waivers traditionally offered to athletes, choir members, and other students providing services to the university—all at an institution that for over a century has been the island’s main channel for upward mobility.

The ongoing bid to reduce Puerto Rico’s government spending—what the non-elected Fiscal Board appointed by the federal government euphemistically calls “right-sizing”—threatens not only the UPR’s autonomy but its very existence.

The situation in the UPR is more depressing every day.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:12:56pm

re: #214 Jay C

SRSLY? Nikki Haley is a sort of Chauncey Gardner of Republican politics: not much of a record, little to recommend her, no real “talents” other than being a faithful GOP drone, and generally not (politically) slipping in puddles of her own vomit. That, and being a “model minority”, of course. And she shows up (which, unfortunately, counts for more than it should).
Yet somehow, this run-of-the-mill party hack keeps getting mentioned ever and anon as some sort of Great Republican Hope For The Future. Bleccch.

Those traits of Nikki are all positives compared to many a Republican politician.

So, she is a good candidate due to the fact she isn’t as horrific.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:13:19pm
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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:13:21pm

re: #205 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Not bad. Tomorrow night at the fish household is my locally famous chicken biryani.

OMG! I love chicken biryani and am on a quest to find the best tasting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:13:58pm

re: #250 Sea Mexican!

“Rightsizing”.

Now governments are using bullshit corporate speak.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:14:02pm

re: #248 Blind Frog Belly White

Totally thought of that, no doubt. If remotely true, he’s on a rage bender that will last for days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:16:00pm

re: #251 ObserverArt

Those traits of Nikki are all positives compared to many a Republican politician.

So, she is a good candidate due to the fact she isn’t as horrific.

This reminds me of this year’s budgetting process at my workplace. There was a machine we wanted. It costs $300,000. We got turned down.

Last week, another company came by to hawk a machine that does the same kind of thing (and a lot more) for $2 Million. I said we should tell the Big Boss we want one, and when he flips out, reluctantly settle for the $300,000 machine.

But I don’t think he’d bite. Not his first rodeo.

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Eventual Carrion  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:16:06pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Did she actually commit perjury — or did she just lie?

Our employee, whom we pay her salary with our money, lied to us.

Edit: fix “her”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:16:33pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

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Rules for thee but not me. Sounds like the story of his life.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:17:48pm

re: #233 Blind Frog Belly White

You have more freeways than just I-80?
//

Where’s I-80? We have the 95, the I-15, and the 215 near me.

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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:18:06pm

re: #242 Hecuba’s daughter

Good luck!! My nephew and I were down in Puerto Vallarta for 6 weeks this summer; medical treatment seemed good and the costs were a fraction of here. He unexpectedly needed an EKG and was worried about the cost — turned out it was only 400 pesos (about $22).

If we survive the Trump disaster and get a solid Democrat into office in 2020 (and a Democratic Congress before then), you may be able to return here. And certainly, once you are eligible for Medicare, the medication will be affordable again.

Thanks. Without Obamacare, my insulin will be $800 per month. Versus $120 in South America for the exact same product in the exact same pen made by the exact same company. Americans are getting hosed, and they don’t care because “insurance”. But if “insurance” wasn’t so damn expensive they would get a bigger paycheck (we’d love to give you a raise but health insurance went up again).

Of course, the Republicans have their eyes are Medicare next. I may never return.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:18:27pm

re: #259 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Where’s I-80? We have the 95, the I-15, and the 215 near me.

Oh, it’s northern Nevada. LOL.

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Teukka  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:18:35pm

re: #246 retired cynic

Oh, how timely. Locally. A woman I know, in great distress, tried to kill herself late one night last week by pills. She ended up on her yard, having nearly bit her tongue in two, unconscious and bleeding. Her… man cohabiting, I’ll say, came out the next morning, stepped around her and went to work. Her son found her a few hours later, and she is safely in hospital. Has a long recovery ahead. But there are a number of us in this small community that would like to do something to charge that creature with who just walked away. Not sure if anyone else in the really tiny (<100) town saw her, and did likewise. Disgusting.

What the Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo? If I see someone who clearly needs help, I help, even if it is a homeless person or a drunk. Even if it was the frigging Mango Menace himself… That’s how deeply ingrained into my spine my upbringing is. Pseudocode listing:
1) Is shit happn?
2) Find answer to “What can I do?”
3) Do.
I wish you luck with finding an appropriate charge. Chances are there are good Samaritan-ish clauses, but they may not have been used often.

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BigPapa  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:18:57pm

The only road/highway/mega-interstate we have where I live is The Queen. I’m cool with that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:19:26pm

re: #259 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Where’s I-80? We have the 95, the I-15, and the 215 near me.

Look North….

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:20:01pm

re: #264 Blind Frog Belly White

Look North….

Oh hai! Checking in where I-80 passes just to the south.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:20:41pm

re: #261 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Oh, it’s northern Nevada. LOL.

I tend to feel similarly about SoCal. It’s all a blur South of Santa Barbara

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:21:06pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

‘Traffic’ here is 5 cars at the stop light. It’s the only place I have lived that has decreased in population. Town and county, but not state.

You have a stop light? Wow. I see those when I drive a half an hour to buy groceries. // Seriously, it’s nice living out here in the boonies, but there is a real culture shock when you have to go to Big Cities like St Louis (I can just manage it) or Chicago (AHHH!).

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:23:20pm

Ted and wife getting run out of a DC restaurant.

Facebook Video

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:25:17pm

re: #267 retired cynic

You have a stop light? Wow. I see those when I drive a half an hour to buy groceries. // Seriously, it’s nice living out here in the boonies, but there is a real culture shock when you have to go to Big Cities like St Louis (I can just manage it) or Chicago (AHHH!).

We have a stoplight, two gas stations, two bars, and three churches. Priorities, man.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:25:27pm
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Patricia Kayden  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:29:01pm

re: #87 plansbandc

So this serial abuser will help destroy every progressive thing that’s happened in our country in my lifetime and there isn’t anything anyone will do about it.

This just isn’t at all how I thought things were going to turn out for us.

Devastating.

Elections have consequences and Republicans are going to get everything out of their total control of Washington no matter happens in November.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:29:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:30:36pm

re: #272 Belafon

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Add teleprompter jokes to another projection.

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Barefoot Grin  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:32:44pm

“…human smurfling and human gerbiling….”

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:33:36pm

re: #270 Charles Johnson

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I really almost wish he said “Be nice if Ted had shown the same respect to the Kentuckians who wanted to get married at Kim Davis’ clerk’s office.”

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:39:18pm

re: #224 Old Liberal

Heading to South America. I am diabetic, and the relentless assaults on the Affordable Care Act hover over me relentlessly. Every year since 2010 I have been on the edge of my chair wondering if the Republicans were going to fuck me over. I finally decided that I would just go somewhere where insulin is cheaper and enjoy my life again.

Good luck. I hope you stay with us. And find the health care there that you need.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:39:35pm
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The Vicious Babushka  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:43:10pm

Tucker Carlson is such a motherfucker.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:44:19pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:45:21pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

I like Charles’s arrows because it means I don’t have to go to their tweet, I can do it from here.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:45:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:45:31pm

re: #278 The Vicious Babushka

Tucker Carlson is such a motherfucker.

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His wife and two girls have nothing to do with this. Meanwhile, you’re a racist prick who wants to punish people for crossing the border illegally as children. A fucking misdemeanor. Go play in oncoming traffic Tucker.

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:46:44pm

re: #262 Teukka

There isn’t one. He may have known she was out there all night. Makes my blood boil.

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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:47:29pm

re: #276 retired cynic

Good luck. I hope you stay with us. And find the health care there that you need.

Thank you. I learn so much here, I hope to keep up.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:56:41pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:57:56pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

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re: #285 teleskiguy

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And I thought Ayotte was a bad idea. Sheesh.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 6:59:13pm

re: #142 BigPapa

Charles, no disrespect, but: how in the F do you drive here in SoCal? Spent two exits on the 405 and I’m like DAMN YOU MOFOFAKAS NO ALOHA YOU SUMBITCH BASTARDOS.

I’ll be in my hotel room sucking on my thumb until the alcohol kicks in.

Big Papa, I can’t drive. I get around on Metro.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:00:47pm

I hate it when these NeverTrump conservatives are correct, damn it. Joe Walsh especially!

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:02:20pm

re: #288 teleskiguy

I hate it when these NeverTrump conservatives are correct, damn it. Joe Walsh especially!

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But you’re quoting Jen Rubin there lol but yes. FFS. What a fucking clown circus.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:03:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:05:45pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:06:39pm

re: #291 Single-handed sailor

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Surprised she didn’t ask him what his favorite Bible verse or what his favorite football play was.

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Citizen K  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:07:27pm
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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:09:06pm

somebody tweetred this
I’m not that clever
and i lost the cite

Imagine being a Republican woman in the Senate who isn’t deemed worthy of sitting on the Judiciary Committee — and watching your male colleagues hire a woman to ask their questions for them.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:09:39pm

re: #292 HappyWarrior

Surprised she didn’t ask him what his favorite Bible verse or what his favorite football play was.

Mr. Kavanaugh, for a good defense would you recommend a man-to-man or a match-up zone?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:09:48pm

re: #293 Citizen K

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You know what? Your “center-right” friends suck then. I’m tired of conservatives whining that we’re making them this way. No guys, you made yourselves this way the second you decided an ignorant and profoundly unqualified businessman was fit to lead your party. The second that you decided HRC was a worse person and candidate than Donald fucking Trump. The second you were either okay with or even went along with questioning the American birth of Barack Obama. You did this to yourselves. Clean up your own shit.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:10:31pm

BTW the polls don’t reflect what he says. Kavanaugh is more unpopular than Bork was.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:10:41pm

re: #294 dangerman

somebody tweetred this
I’m not that clever
and i lost the cite

Imagine being a Republican woman in the Senate who isn’t deemed worthy of sitting on the Judiciary Committee — and watching your male colleagues hire a woman to ask their questions for them.

See #290.

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dangerman  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:11:03pm

re: #294 dangerman

somebody tweetred this
I’m not that clever
and i lost the cite

Imagine being a Republican woman in the Senate who isn’t deemed worthy of sitting on the Judiciary Committee — and watching your male colleagues hire a woman to ask their questions for them.

oh I see it’s already just been posted
I’ll be quiet now

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:11:13pm

But I guess that shouldn’t surprise because Bork while a pathetic hack with a shitty philosophy and a shitty person too wasn’t accused of sexually assaulting anyone.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:13:44pm

LIBERALS MADE ME A RACIST ASSHOLE. No, you did that to yourself by thinking that people who had a problem with CSA statues were worse than the people who wanted to keep up statues that were put up to mainstream white supremacy.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:14:05pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:14:47pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

Someone should ask her about this:

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:16:22pm

re: #303 Belafon

Someone should ask her about this:

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She’ll conveniently forget that she ever said that and give Ford a hard time for waiting to come forward.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:19:39pm

Why the hell are they so set on Kavanaugh? A few reasons I think. Kavanaugh is the one that has written the book on protecting the executive at all costs. Hardimann or Barrett or any of the other finalists may actually show some independence on Trump abusing his power. Secondly, they feel this is their horse and they’re going to stay with the horse as long as they can. Thirdly, Kavanaugh is one of them. This is someone who was a Republican/right wing operative for much of his career until W gave him his current job. And finally, I really don’t think they fucking care about the accusations. We saw Rep. Cramer who is running for office’s comments. We see how Mitch and Grassley want to rush this. They don’t care about rape victims and they sure as shit don’t care about ones that were assaulted by their own.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:20:25pm

re: #285 teleskiguy

Wasn’t Maricopa County a little infamous for failing to prosecute sex crimes against children?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:21:09pm

re: #306 Deep State SuperElite Satinist

Wasn’t Maricopa County a little infamous for failing to prosecute sex crimes against children?

Believe so especially Hispanic ones.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:29:50pm

re: #224 Old Liberal

Happy trails and have fun in SA. I have a couple of friends who just moved to Costa Rica.
We are either going to have to move to Mexico or make regular trips there to get our meds when they kill preexisting conditions. It really sucks to live in such a backwards country.

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Unshaken Defiance  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:32:07pm

re: #308 plansbandc

Happy trails and have fun in SA. I have a couple of friends who just moved to Costa Rica.
We are either going to have to move to Mexico or make regular trips there to get our meds when they kill preexisting conditions. It really sucks to live in such backwards country.

That is when my head exploded. Just reading that.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:34:28pm

re: #309 Unshaken Defiance

That is when my head exploded. Just reading that.

It to me shows the fault of the rugged individual myth. I see these stories about how inspirational it is when a community raises money for a favorite teacher or someone struggling to pay for their meds or whatever and while it’s great to see a community like that band together. It also shouldn’t be happening.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:35:27pm

re: #290 Single-handed sailor

Apparently they enjoy being second class citizens, after all they’re Republicans.

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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:35:43pm

re: #308 plansbandc

Happy trails and have fun in SA. I have a couple of friends who just moved to Costa Rica.
We are either going to have to move to Mexico or make regular trips there to get our meds when they kill preexisting conditions. It really sucks to live in such backwards country.

Back in 2010, my then-wife was turned down for health insurance and forced to buy in the high risk pool Reason? Dry scalp. No shit. Official reason on paperwork. No other conditions. Except being a woman over 55, of course but they can’t put that on paper.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:36:31pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:37:18pm

re: #290 Single-handed sailor

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The Kim Davis types do not care as long as Trump keeps kicking people of color, gays, lesbians, Jews, Muslims and other minorities down.

They live to see the “ungodly” get hurt.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:39:24pm

re: #312 Old Liberal

Back in 2010, my then-wife was turned down for health insurance and forced to buy in the high risk pool Reason? Dry scalp. No shit. Official reason on paperwork. No other conditions. Except being a woman over 55, of course but they can’t put that on paper.

I got turned down in the 1980s because a had a biopsy that showed I didn’t have cancer.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:39:26pm

re: #314 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Kim Davis types do not care as long as Trump keeps kicking people of color, gays, lesbians, Jews, Muslims and other minorities down.

They live to see the “ungodly” get hurt.

Convenient that their hate-god hates the same people that they do.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:40:04pm
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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:41:07pm

re: #310 HappyWarrior

It to me shows the fault of the rugged individual myth. I see these stories about how inspirational it is when a community raises money for a favorite teacher or someone struggling to pay for their meds or whatever and while it’s great to see a community like that band together. It also shouldn’t be happening.

The morons out here love that shit, they have a silent auction and meat raffle at some bar and raise maybe $2,000 for someone with brain cancer, someone who refused to sign up for Obamacare because freedom.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:41:27pm

re: #312 Old Liberal

Mind boggling.

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:41:45pm
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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:42:17pm
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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:42:19pm

re: #315 calochortus

I got turned down in the 1980s because a had a biopsy that showed I didn’t have cancer.

I got denied because I was on blood pressure meds. Low dose, routine. But in my early 50s.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:43:05pm

re: #318 Old Liberal

The morons out here love that shit, they have a silent auction and meat raffle at some bar and raise maybe $2,000 for someone with brain cancer, someone who refused to sign up for Obamacare because freedom.

I mean sometimes it’s someone who can’t afford it period and it wasn’t their poor choices but damn. If we’re so fucking great, we shouldn’t have shit like that.

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calochortus  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:44:14pm

re: #318 Old Liberal

The morons out here love that shit, they have a silent auction and meat raffle at some bar and raise maybe $2,000 for someone with brain cancer, someone who refused to sign up for Obamacare because freedom.

Back in the day, when you couldn’t really do anything for brain cancer, that kind of worked. Now people ought to have good insurance to pay for the medical costs and the neighbors can do a fundraiser so the family can get some help at home for a while or something.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:44:23pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

If you’re a one perecenter, it’s fucking great. The rest of us? Not so fucking great.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:44:25pm

re: #321 jaunte

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The funny thing is the TP activists who are probably crying how Cruz was treated are the same people who were encouraging tarring and feathering in response ot ACA. But yeah Cruz being hounded at during a night out is child’s play compared to other stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:45:26pm

re: #325 plansbandc

If you’re a one perecenter, it’s fucking great. The rest of us? Not so fucking great.

I am so lucky in so many ways.

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William Lewis  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:47:59pm

Hey, RWC, you might find this of interest: lzzyhaleofficial.tumblr.com

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:49:24pm

re: #208 teleskiguy

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:50:02pm

Some people see the luck they got and feel it’s an excuse to be a dick goblin. Certainly, I think of people like Kavanaugh and Trump when it comes to that. Others understand their privilege and it’s not even necessarily racial I’m talking here but it certainly part of it. I always wonder how different my life would be were I a woman and or a PoC on the spectrum in a less well off family situation. That motivates me to want the same help I got as an middle to upper middle class white guy on the spectrum to want it for all kids regardless of gender, socio-econmic background, etc.

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Old Liberal  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:51:55pm

re: #323 HappyWarrior

I mean sometimes it’s someone who can’t afford it period and it wasn’t their poor choices but damn. If we’re so fucking great, we shouldn’t have shit like that.

Many of these people who find themselves in this condition are self-employed construction types who under-report their income. They don’t want to pay taxes, they don’t want to have to buy insurance. A woman I know is getting divorced, and said her husband massively under-reports his income so now he can’t qualify for a mortgage to buy her out of their house, even though he makes more than she makes. He will have to honestly report for a few years in order to get a mortgage. With as little income as he reports, he could easily afford Obamacare subsidized insurance, but nope.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:54:36pm

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

The GOP elected both Bush (the lesser) and Trump as President; wouldn’t Nikki be an improvement on either one?

No. Equally idiotic is not an improvement.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:54:57pm

I really do think it’s empathy that when we leave our ideas is what truly separates the liberal from the conservative.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:58:10pm

…sure he is…

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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:58:12pm

Uh wut now?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:59:19pm

re: #335 Charles Johnson

Uh wut now?

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I’d call her a bot but I don’t underestimate how ignorant of our history wngnuts are either. The point, her head.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 7:59:42pm

re: #335 Charles Johnson

Someone trying to be serious and kind of missing the point. I would personally just let it go.

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plansbandc  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:01:20pm

re: #335 Charles Johnson

Found a clever one there.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:01:54pm

Arizona moderate: Lawful Evil alignment.

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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:08:42pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:09:17pm

Republicans are stupid enough to think this won’t hit them after Thursday.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:14:33pm

re: #341 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans are stupid enough to think this won’t hit them after Thursday.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:14:34pm
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freetoken  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:20:26pm

America is struggling to become post-Christian. I don’t know how it will turn out, given the propensity of the fundamentalist wing of the current American society are pushing real hard for their daughters to have a dozen babies.

This struggle for society’s ideological change works all the way up through the highest of ivory towers.

The more reading I do on early Christianity, the more I realize that many of the publishing scholars, at least American, not so much German, in this field are still giving deference to stories of magic.

Even indirectly - e.g., some scholars will eschew miracles but then take the apostle Paul on his word, when his (5 or 7 legitimate) letters are filled with things like visions, prophecies, etc.

It’s hard to change a society.

I bet most American scholars do not believe that an angel came to Mohammed and revealed the substance of the Quran, and even fewer will accept that an angel came to Joseph Smith and showed him the Book of Mormon.

Yet somehow these scholars use Paul’s words as some sort of historical guideline, when the story as it goes is clear that Paul claims he never saw “Jesus” when said character was alive, but only in a revelation.

This is not off topic of our SCOTUS politics.

Kavanaugh is very much the plant of fundamentalists, as was Gorsuch. This is part of their hopes to instill a theocracy. This they believe is their calling.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:22:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:23:17pm
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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:24:28pm

re: #344 freetoken

America is struggling to become post-Christian. I don’t know how it will turn out, given the propensity of the fundamentalist wing of the current American society are pushing real hard for their daughters to have a dozen babies.

This struggle for society’s ideological change works all the way up through the highest of ivory towers.

The more reading I do on early Christianity, the more I realize that many of the publishing scholars, at least American, not so much German, in this field are still giving deference to stories of magic.

Even indirectly - e.g., some scholars will eschew miracles but then take the apostle Paul on his word, when is (legitimate) letters are filled with things like visions, prophecies, etc.

It’s hard to change a society.

I bet most American scholars do not believe that an angel came to Mohammed and revealed the substance of the Quran, and even fewer will accept that an angel came to Joseph Smith and showed him the Book of Mormon.

Yet somehow these scholars use Paul’s words as some sort of historical guideline, when the story as it goes is clear that Paul claims he never saw “Jesus” when said character was alive, but only in a revelation.

This is not off topic of our SCOTUS politics.

Kavanaugh is very much the plant of fundamentalists, as was Gorsuch. This is part of their hopes to instill a theocracy. This they believe is their calling.

You being up an interesting dynamic that gets lost sometimes. That religious Americans find other religions supernatural stuff completely absurd. Like I’ll be the first to agree with the notion that Scientology is nuts but it’s no more nuts to me than Christ rising from the dead. I mean if you want to lean on a religion’s philosophy, that’s one thing but the RR to me shows how nutty they are when they claim demonic possession explains things like gay people or support for their equality.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:25:38pm

re: #345 jaunte

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I thought It was a nice gesture on Beto’s part. But Cruz is just going to grow more absurd in his attacks.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:27:52pm

I’m not attacking religious belief btw but rather the notion that one’s own set of religious supernatural beliefs is normal but others absurd. And there’s a profound ignorance in this country about non Christian religions which allows the RR to mislead people what non Christians believe.

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BeachDem  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:31:17pm

Committee Chair Chuck Grassley (R-IA) confirmed the news late Tuesday. The prosecutor will take a leave of absence from Maricopa County for a few days to go onto the Senate payroll for this specific reason.

But in an article I read earlier today:

A Democratic staffer noted that there are rules on bringing in outside counsel. A person at a law firm would have to quit his or her job to do the questioning ― the individual could not take a leave of absence and could not do it pro bono.

Is there a difference between taking a leave of absence from a law firm and taking one from a prosecutor’s office? Anybody know?

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:32:35pm

re: #341 Joe Bacon 🌹

Republicans are stupid enough to think this won’t hit them after Thursday.

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Hopefully that is what will happen — but after 2016, even with the positive outcomes of Virginia, Alabama, and Conor Lamb, I remain uncertain that the blue wave will materialize. Given the unfavorable position for the Senate, the widespread gerrymandering of House seats, the BernieBros, and the traditional lack of commitment of young voters, I fear that we will face disappointment once again.

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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:34:40pm

re: #335 Charles Johnson

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:37:15pm

re: #352 teleskiguy

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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:40:18pm

re: #353 jaunte

Isn’t he doing just that?

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:40:55pm

re: #353 jaunte

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And we’d hear how criticizing it makes them like it more.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:42:00pm

re: #350 BeachDem

Committee Chair Chuck Grassley (R-IA) confirmed the news late Tuesday. The prosecutor will take a leave of absence from Maricopa County for a few days to go onto the Senate payroll for this specific reason.

But in an article I read earlier today:

A Democratic staffer noted that there are rules on bringing in outside counsel. A person at a law firm would have to quit his or her job to do the questioning ― the individual could not take a leave of absence and could not do it pro bono.

Is there a difference between taking a leave of absence from a law firm and taking one from a prosecutor’s office? Anybody know?

If anything a prosecutor is even more conflicted because their office is likely to receive grants and funding from Congress.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:42:31pm

re: #354 retired cynic

Isn’t he doing just that?

There are whole chunks of the Bible Belt that are effectively “No-Go” zones for Muslims.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:45:00pm

re: #357 Joe Bacon 🌹

There are whole chunks of the Bible Belt that are effectively “No-Go” zones for Muslims.

Shit I’d argue any Non white Christian. They like to act like they’re not Anti Semitic because they use Israel but those types still bellyache about Jews.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:46:28pm

In my observations of Red America, they’re fine to you if they think you belong but if you show a deviation from their norm, easy to be a pariah.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:54:45pm

I guess I just have a problem with it how rural and red America promotes itself as real America. It’s all America of course but the more diverse areas are far more representative of this country. Republicans love to brag they win so many counties but a lot of those counties don’t even resemble us demographically a century ago let alone now.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:54:57pm
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teleskiguy  Sep 25, 2018 • 8:58:14pm

Kris drums for Umphrey’s McGee, my favorite touring rock ‘n’ roll circus. He also has a Master’s Degree in Jazz Drumming.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:00:59pm

re: #361 jaunte

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He ain’t wrong. But what infuriates me is how big a chickenshit McConnell is. He pulled the Garland stunt and bragged about and then cries partisanship on this. I’m hoping Mitch is remembered in history as an amoral scumbag who put partisanship above everything else.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:05:45pm

Its not the partisanship. It’s the partisanship while complaining anytime the Dems fight back. But Mitch is a typical bully.

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jaunte  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:06:34pm
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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:06:42pm

re: #363 HappyWarrior

He ain’t wrong. But what infuriates me is how big a chickenshit McConnell is. He pulled the Garland stunt and bragged about and then cries partisanship on this. I’m hoping Mitch is remembered in history as an amoral scumbag who put partisanship above everything else.

Not crying, or complaining. Bragging about the partisanship, and that it is paying off.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:10:50pm

10 more parts to the thread

Click to Reveal
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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:10:55pm

re: #320 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson ✔
@Green_Footballs
This just in: we must all condemn the uncivil acts of the demonstrators who boarded ships in Boston Harbor and committed a shocking act of vandalism, destroying an entire shipment of East India Company tea. This is not how we advance the cause of American independence.

10:41 PM - Sep 25, 2018

From earlier this year…Paul Ryan was bitching about protesters clogging the halls of congress.

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:11:10pm

re: #366 retired cynic

Not crying, or complaining. Bragging about the partisanship, and that it is paying off.

Yep screw McConnell. He’s up in 2020. I hope the Dems find a great candidate to take him on.

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sagehen  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:17:35pm

re: #343 jaunte

And I would add: have you ever worked on a case where known material witnesses to alleged sex assault were not called to testify because they’d rather not?

The “known material witnesses” would rather not because really, they’re accomplices. Remember that Jody Foster movie, where a bunch of guys watched and shouted and urged him on? It wasn’t a couple of criminals and a bunch of witnesses — they were all criminals to some degree.

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Hecuba's daughter  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:23:24pm

re: #352 teleskiguy

Clearly something wrong with that woman — assuming she is real and not some bot.

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meteor  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:24:18pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:25:30pm

re: #371 Hecuba’s daughter

Clearly something wrong with that woman — assuming she is real and not some bot.

Reading through her timeline, she strikes me as someone who thinks NPR has their coverage just about right.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:31:41pm
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Belafon  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:36:02pm

John Cole has his response to the Cruz dinner thing, and I think this is the important part:

But when a majority of the population votes for one person and another becomes President, when clear majorities oppose virtually everything the party in power is doing but can’t do anything about it, this is what people like Cruz should expect.

balloon-juice.com

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HappyWarrior  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:40:44pm

re: #375 Belafon

John Cole has his response to the Cruz dinner thing, and I think this is the important part:

balloon-juice.com

Agree. And I’d add a lot of these Republicans don’t hold townhalls either. Our district went for Clinton by 10 yet Comstock votes for the Trump agenda and is too chicken to face us.

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ObserverArt  Sep 25, 2018 • 9:43:35pm

re: #370 sagehen

The “known material witnesses” would rather not because really, they’re accomplices. Remember that Jody Foster movie, where a bunch of guys watched and shouted and urged him on? It wasn’t a couple of criminals and a bunch of witnesses — they were all criminals to some degree.

The Accused

Based off this incident that really does share some attributes with Kavanaugh and his thinking in high school and college.

Cheryl Araujo Rape Case - Wiki Page

First paragraphs at Wiki:

Cheryl Ann Araujo (March 28, 1961 - December 14, 1986) was an American rape victim whose case became national news. She was gang-raped in 1983 at age 21 by four men in a tavern in New Bedford, Massachusetts, while other patrons watched but did not intervene. During the prosecution, the defendants’ attorneys cross-examined Araujo to such an extent about her own life and activities that the case became widely seen as a template for “blaming the victim” in rape cases. Her case was widely known as the “Big Dan’s rape,” after the name of the bar in which the attack occurred. Ostracized in New Bedford, Araujo moved with her family to Miami, Florida, to make a new life. She died a few years later in a drunk driving car accident.

Her case prompted national debate at the time over broadcasting of the trial, in which her name was released. Some states have passed legislation to protect the names of rape victims, and court cases have attempted to settle issues of newsworthiness, freedom of the press, and state interest, as well as personal privacy. Her case was the basis of the 1988 film The Accused.

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Deep State SuperElite Satinist  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:04:24pm

So, anyway, I used to work at a legal support business (copying paperwork, making courtroom displays) in the 1990s. I was talking to a friend of my roommate’s, and he mentioned that the place where he worked was thinking of hiring one of my former co-workers. When he said who, i told him “Don’t hire that guy, he was fired for sexual harassment”. The guy didn’t get the low-level management job he was applying for.
I would hope a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the United States would have higher standards than that low-level management job.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:05:46pm

This will likely prove to be a self-correcting problem.

Danish tourist slammed by wildlife official for jumping on crocodile(Video at link)

A young man claiming to be the “Danish Crocodile Dundee” has been chastised by Australian wildlife officials who find no humor in a “reckless” stunt where he jumped on a massive crocodile.

Niels Jensen made waves on social media Monday for hopping on the back of a burly saltwater crocodile, which was roughly 15 feet and weighed over 1,430 pounds, news.com.au reported.

In the 50-second clip, which has been viewed over 9,700 times on YouTube, the 22-year-old baits the reptile with a wallaby carcass in what’s believed to be a wildlife park near Darwin in the North Territory, as per Newsweek.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:07:23pm
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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:19:09pm
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retired cynic  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:20:33pm

re: #382 Single-handed sailor

Oh, yeah. PUSH that!

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:20:48pm

This is honestly amazing when you consider the overwhelming pride that Senators have historically had in their institution, and as much as anything else demonstrates how far the GOP as fallen and for how long that fall has been in motion.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:22:16pm

LOL

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fern01  Sep 25, 2018 • 10:52:06pm

re: #294 dangerman

somebody tweetred this
I’m not that clever
and i lost the cite

Imagine being a Republican woman in the Senate who isn’t deemed worthy of sitting on the Judiciary Committee — and watching your male colleagues hire a woman to ask their questions for them.

Most of them would be perfectly happy - they look up to their masters for guidance

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:01:32pm

Forget it Jake, it’s Jesustown.

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Single-handed sailor  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:15:12pm
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Targetpractice  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:34:35pm

I must admit some anticipation right now, a bit like the hours before Christmas morning, waiting to see if Avenatti is gonna deliver the goods or fall flat on his face. I’m fairly confident he’s about the do the latter, but hopeful that the former will come to pass.

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goddamnedfrank  Sep 25, 2018 • 11:44:48pm
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Eventual Carrion  Sep 26, 2018 • 6:04:02am

re: #357 Joe Bacon 🌹

There are whole chunks of the Bible Belt that are effectively “No-Go” zones for Muslims.

Or PoC


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