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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:58:08pm

Reposting from downstairs.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 5:58:36pm

GOTTEM

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:00:11pm

I usually don’t celebrate deaths, but Kissinger was a terrible human being, so where’s my damn scotch?

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Captain Ron  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:00:17pm

Let me open a beer and we’ll drink to that.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:00:43pm
This is the first entry tagged: Reptile

Seems overdue.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:00:54pm

The greatest moment of Hollywood Squares ever.

Peter Marshall, “Paul, what does President Nixon call Henry Kissinger?”

Paul Lynde, “What else but…Kissy!”

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:01:13pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

I usually don’t celebrate deaths, but Kissinger was a terrible human being, so where’s my damn scotch?

Nobody is perfect, and I will allow a few exceptions to the long-standing rule. Rush Limbaugh was on my list. Kissinger is on EVERYBODY’S list.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:03:01pm

So appropriate for that War Criminal right now.

The extra long live version.

Siouxsie & The Banshees - Drop Dead/Celebration (Music Machine 1980)

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:05:10pm

Henry Kissinger is dead, but Rupert Murdoch is still alive.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:05:29pm

What’s sickening is the knowledge that we’re now going to be subjected to politicians from both sides of the aisle pretending this monstrous prick is not only some sort of American hero, but one that the whole of the nation should mourn the passing of.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:06:23pm

Now we’ll need to put up with a blizzard of media tributes with very little context to show the massive damage and suffering this monster inflicted on the world.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:07:25pm

I’m weirdly glad that I first heard about Kissinger pining for the fjords on Bluesky.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:07:51pm

Just when Argentina needs him again…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:08:35pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:08:56pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:09:36pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

The day Trump dies really should become a Federal Holiday.

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Targetpractice  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:12:09pm

I’m curious to see which Dem is going to immediately become the target for the whole of the far-right’s ire when they publicly acknowledge that Kissinger was one of history’s greatest monsters.

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austin_blue  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:14:23pm

Henry Kissinger’s dead,
Oh, oh, he’s outside looking in.

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austin_blue  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:15:55pm

And Jimmy Carter abides.

Proper.

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cat-tikvah  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:16:03pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

I’ll manage to deal with it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:16:52pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:17:05pm

This article is just a brief Cliff’s notes of what that fucker did. We are going to be flooded with “secure the border” types lavishing praise on this asshole’s life, without even accepting he is in big part responsible for the way things have been in South America for decades, and why so many are desperate to get out.

thedailystar.net

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:17:19pm

The secret bombing of Cambodia, a “Sideshow,” is, in my view, the preeminent reason why Kissinger was so evil, because it led not only to the rise of the Khmer Rouge, but the Pol Pot clique within the KR.

William Shawcross detailed this avoidable tragedy in his excellent book, Sideshow.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:22:39pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

What’s sickening is the knowledge that we’re now going to be subjected to politicians from both sides of the aisle pretending this monstrous prick is not only some sort of American hero, but one that the whole of the nation should mourn the passing of.

The thing that will drive me to cough syrup addiction is that people will pretend that his schemes on some level worked, as opposed to the more accurate diagnosis that the externalities were heaps of dead people and promised “realpolitk” results never met projections.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:23:53pm

Kissinger is dead

But Jimmy Carter Still Lives!

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:25:33pm

Kissinger’s policy decisions and advice to Nixon very nearly got me killed, personally, for real. Many thousands of others, possibly millions, were not so fortunate. I can still smell the dead outside An Loc and on the road from Quang Tri.
Yeah, I volunteered and all but the war should have ended years before I got to Vietnam.
I am elated that I have outlived the mass murdering son of a bitch.

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:27:25pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

Kissinger is dead

But Jimmy Carter Still Lives!

Yes, but we’ve moved on to [good person] has died, but Rupert Murdoch is still alive.
It might be an endless cycle. Sometimes you just can’t win.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:29:22pm

WHAT THE FUCK, NPR

Mastodon

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:29:23pm

Just saw an Avocado mattress ad…they say they have:
Organic wool
Organic cotton
and…
Organic latex… ((record scratch))…WTF?

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Captain Ron  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:32:33pm

re: #28 Nerdy Fish

“The United States doesn’t have friends, it has interests.”

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:33:33pm

re: #28 Nerdy Fish

WHAT THE FUCK, NPR

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Dunno, NPR’s header doesn’t read particularly complimentary to me.
Obviously YMMV…

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:34:14pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

No it won’t. He’ll get a couple of days of wall to wall coverage - always tainted by his Jan 6 insurrection and multiple felony charges and impeachments.

I could see Charles sending the golden carriage to the US so whoever is president at the time - be it Biden, Harris, Newsom, or even god forbid Haley - can ride to the funeral through the raining ticker tape.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:34:51pm

re: #30 Captain Ron

“The United States doesn’t have friends, it has interests.”

Just that first sentence. “Legendary diplomat and foreign policy scholar.” The whitewashing of his history has already commenced. FUCKING BUTCHER would do, for starters. And let me be clear: Everything I know of Kissinger is secondhand. He was run out of Washington well before I came along. But even I know enough about him to know that there aren’t enough epithets to fling at his epitaph.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:36:17pm

re: #29 darthstar

Just saw an Avocado mattress ad…they say they have:
Organic wool
Organic cotton
and…
Organic latex… ((record scratch))…WTF?

Yep, latex is a plant product. Opium is made out of dried latex harvested from opium poppies.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:37:48pm

re: #34 goddamnedfrank

Yep, latex is a plant product. Opium is made out of dried latex harvested from opium poppies.

So that’s why my dick liked condoms…

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:39:18pm

Okay I knew Kissinger was the template for how to do a modern atrocity, but this now-classic line caught me off guard:

Nixon was not subtle about who he meant by the Eastern Establishment. When the media seized upon the U.S. massacre at My Lai, Nixon remarked, “It’s those dirty rotten Jews from New York who are behind it.” Nixon’s White House counsel, John Erlichman, recalled Nixon talking about “Jewish traitors” in front of Kissinger, including “Jews at Harvard.” Kissinger would assure the boss he was one of the good ones. “Well, Mr. President,” Erlichman quoted him responding, “there are Jews and Jews.”

Motherfucker’s going to be with us forever because every cursed shitheel out there pumping the reaction is a horcrux.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:41:16pm

Dad missed Kissinger’s demise by 27 days. He only lived to be 74. Fucking Kissinger made it to a hundred and by most accounts had his marbles about him even into very old age.

Rest in piss, you piece of shit.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:42:39pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

I’m weirdly glad that I first heard about Kissinger pining for the fjords on Bluesky.

Me too.

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The GOP is a Terrorist Organization  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:44:32pm

re: #23 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

The secret bombing of Cambodia, a “Sideshow,” is, in my view, the preeminent reason why Kissinger was so evil, because it led not only to the rise of the Khmer Rouge, but the Pol Pot clique within the KR.

William Shawcross detailed this avoidable tragedy in his excellent book, Sideshow.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:45:48pm

re: #36 The Ghost of a Flea

Okay I knew Kissinger was the template for how to do a modern atrocity, but this now-classic line caught me off guard:

Motherfucker’s going to be with us forever because every cursed shitheel out there pumping the reaction is a horcrux.

And don’t forget how Billy Graham Cracker was caught on the Nixon tapes letting his anti-Semitism run unchecked.

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ipsos  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:46:10pm

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Decatur Deb  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:47:05pm

re: #31 Jay C

Dunno, NPR’s header doesn’t read particularly complimentary to me.
Obviously YMMV…

That’s NPR phrasing for “Fuck Him”.

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TedStriker  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:50:06pm

re: #39 The GOP is a Terrorist Organization

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As a Bourdain fan, it sucks that he isn’t around to hear Kissinger finally bit it.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:50:37pm

I never thought I’d say this, but I wish Elon was more like Henry.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:50:38pm

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:51:21pm

re: #43 TedStriker

As a Bourdain fan, it sucks that he isn’t around to hear Kissenger finally bit it.

Yeah, his suicide hit me a little hard as well…as hard as Robin Williams’ did.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:53:03pm

re: #43 TedStriker

As a Bourdain fan, it sucks that he isn’t around to hear Kissenger finally bit it.

Yeah that hurt. Really hurt me a lot because I really liked Bourdain.

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DodgerFan1988  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:54:45pm

Thoughts and prayer for the people of Bangladesh, Cambodia, Chile, Cyprus, East Timor, Vietnam.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:55:19pm

re: #46 darthstar

Yeah, his suicide hit me a little hard as well…as hard as Robin Williams’ did.

I met Robin Williams at the ski shop I worked at in Beaver Creek. Sweetheart. Spent a couple grand on merch. He was wandering around after the lifts closed in the village, I saw him taking pictures, sitting on benches and looking around, no one in the village batted an eye. It was kind of remarkable. He was in town to perform at the Vilar Performing Arts Center.

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:56:43pm

They just opened a new wing in hell for Kissinger, what a murderous piece of shit.

Anthony Bourdain said it best about him.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:56:55pm

Getting ready for tomorrow’s ‘good husband escorting his wife to Las Vegas for two days for her work’ trip…went downstairs to the PBO (Personal Banking Office) to get my play budget. Ahmed - my favorite personal banker…I’ve almost done all of my banking with him exclusively - sees me walk in and starts typing. I set my card on his desk to look up my account and he says, “I’ve already got your account up.” Show him some pics of the new house (he was instrumental in helping get loan docs in order), then told him my ‘play budget’ for the next two days. He printed up a withdrawal slip for me to sign and went back to the cash room (no cash kept at the desks and First Republic doesn’t have a counter…you sit at a desk). I’m going to miss that when JPMC finally rebrands all the PBO offices. Customer service was our strong suit.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:57:18pm

re: #50 Egregious Philbin

They just opened a new wing in hell for Kissinger, what a murderous piece of shit.

Anthony Bourdain said it best about him.

Nah, fam. They had a special place reserved just for him. All the way at the bottom.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:58:04pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

That’s ok. There’ll be plenty to celebrate.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 6:59:26pm

Anna Eshoo is retiring. She’s been my congresswoman for close to 20 years since I moved to San Mateo county. And she’s still hawt after 32 years in Congress.

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TedStriker  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:00:22pm

re: #52 Nerdy Fish

Nah, fam. They had a special place reserved just for him. All the way at the bottom.

Henry’s Ninth Level Cafe

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Egregious Philbin  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:00:32pm

re: #53 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I just hope he dies in prison, obese and bald.

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:00:55pm

Look at the camo on this guy, hiding out in the brushpile.


en.wikipedia.org
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TedStriker  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:01:14pm

re: #56 Egregious Philbin

I just hope he dies in prison, obese and bald.

And flat busted.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:01:34pm

re: #29 darthstar

Just saw an Avocado mattress ad…they say they have:
Organic wool
Organic cotton
and…
Organic latex… ((record scratch))…WTF?

I had a sweater with a label that said it was made from “virgin acrylic “

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:01:38pm

re: #56 Egregious Philbin

I just hope he dies in prison, obese and bald.

And totally broke… All the way down; every living descendant, broke AF.

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Jay C  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:03:13pm

re: #55 TedStriker

Henry’s Ninth Level Cafe

BBQ and grill specialities…

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:04:00pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Dad missed Kissinger’s demise by 27 days. He only lived to be 74. Fucking Kissinger made it to a hundred and by most accounts had his marbles about him even into very old age.

Rest in piss, you piece of shit.

From what you’ve written, they won’t be in the same place

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:06:26pm

Ah my luck ran out. called for Jury Duty tomorrow…

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sizzzzlerz  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:07:16pm

I felt a shifting of the Force, as if 58,220 American soldiers were finally at rest.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:08:15pm

Lawrence is working the “Orange Jesus” angle hard tonight.

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Dangerman  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:09:23pm

Scuttlebutt the speaker formerly known as Kevin is gonna quit before year end…

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jaunte  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:15:18pm

Okay, I tried to stick with wildlife photos, but I couldn’t resist.

@jaredlholt.bsky.social

Tomorrow a bunch of losers at conservative clickbait sites are gonna write their pieces that go like “SICK leftists CHEER Kissinger death” and I sincerely hope some of you make the cut

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austin_blue  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:17:08pm

...

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:18:14pm

I sincerely hope to live my life in such a way that the whole goddamn world isn’t cheering my death.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:21:21pm

You really were a miserable piece of shit when the entire world celebrates you dying.

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Ace Rothstein  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:23:26pm

Henry Kissinger, dead at 100. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden and the Democrats.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:24:38pm

I love Jasmine. She represents the 30th Congressional District in Texas. I love Megan Hunt in the statehouse in Nebraska. The Justins in Tennessee. Things are going on.

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silverdolphin  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:24:50pm

CBS News recycles crude Republican propaganda

Another istance to show the MSM are all in for the GOP. Cherry-picking data purely to show Bidenomics is not working. Starting the graph in 2020 vs 2021 shows that while inflation has increased $12,000 wages arwe up $13,000. So People are doing better than when Trump was President. but MSM can’t show that.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:25:04pm

re: #69 Nerdy Fish

I sincerely hope to live my life in such a way that the whole goddamn world isn’t cheering my death.

*sigh*

People with power are going to say nice things about him and not be immediately hit with shoes.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:25:37pm

re: #71 Ace Rothstein

Henry Kisinger, dead at 100. Here’s why that’s bad news for President Biden and the Democrats.

I mean, I know you’re doing the NYT Pitchbot thing, but undoubtedly, many mainstream media “journalists” will be trying to parlay everyone’s reactions to his death into some kind of narrative about how Democrats are hateful people, blah blah blah.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:28:15pm

re: #75 Nerdy Fish

I mean, I know you’re doing the NYT Pitchbot thing, but undoubtedly, many mainstream media “journalists” will be trying to parlay everyone’s reactions to his death into some kind of narrative about how Democrats are hateful people, blah blah blah.

“On the day of his passing can we can be gracious about this man that constantly wallowed in death to advance his poorly-thought-through ideals that produced very little positive result if you didn’t have a copper mine in Chile? What happened to civility?”

It’s fucking coming, man.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:28:27pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:30:25pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

After Dad died EVERY FUCKING WORD said or written about him was overwhelmingly positive. The scope of it is enormous.

I have a box of all his letters he got from former students. I looked at it for five minutes right before Dad died and I realized that’s a box that will be extremely difficult to sort through.

But Henry Kissinger? Educated sentient humans everywhere are all like ABOUT TIME! MOTHERFUCK!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:37:20pm

Trump pal Cleta Mitchell quits her post.

A key ally and onetime legal adviser to former President Donald Trump will not return to her position on the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s Board of Advisors after a public outcry, according to a statement by advocacy group Free Speech for People on Wednesday.

“The announcement followed a months-long advocacy campaign by Free Speech For People and Generation Vote,” said the statement. “In two letters to the USCCR, the groups argued that Mitchell’s repeated efforts to undermine voting rights and to promote the false claim of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, as well as her testimony before the congressional January 6th Committee in 2022 where she claimed that no one in the American public has a constitutional right to vote for President of the United States, were deeply incompatible with the purpose and mandate of both commissions. A special grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia unanimously recommended that Mitchell be indicted for her role in conspiring with Trump and others to overturn the 2020 presidential election.”

Mitchell, who also participated in the infamous phone call in which Trump threatened Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, was ultimately not indicted by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis; however, the former president was, along with a number of his legal advisers and allies.

Emails released last year revealed that Trump was pushing for her to be named to the board even before the 2020 election took place.

The U.S. Election Assistance Commission has no formal rulemaking power; however, it performs a number of advisory tasks on elections, including maintaining the Voluntary Voting System Guidelines, recommending certification and decertification of voting machines, and acting as a clearinghouse for funding for various election programs to the states.

“While on the Board, Cleta Mitchell has ridiculed young voters and recently called for efforts to curtail the youth vote after young people turned out in record numbers across the country,” said Generation Vote director Brianna Cea in a statement. “Time and again, Mitchell proved that she does not have the best interest of all American voters and should not be in a position to advise our nation’s only federal election administration commission.”

freespeechforpeople.org

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austin_blue  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:40:39pm

re: #69 Nerdy Fish

I sincerely hope to live my life in such a way that the whole goddamn world isn’t cheering my death.

Were you the model of the character “Dr. Strangelove” in the Stanley Kubrick film in 1963 that had more quotable lines than any film in movie history?

No?

I think you are OK.

Kissinger was an asshole philosopher of nuclear policy like no one else.

When you embrace the term “Mutually Assured Destruction” as a reason to build as many nukes and delivery systems as you can, as opposed to saying. “Hey, maybe we should put some guardrails on these weapons so we can build more schools and feed our citizens,” you are on the wrong side of history.

We still are, and it’s Kissinger’s legacy.

Oh, and when I was an Air Force pilot, I sat Nuclear Alert at K. I. Sawyer AFB outside of Marquette MI. Was it a scary time? Hell’s yes.This was 1980 to 1983.

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Belafon  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:43:20pm

Frances Sternhagen, who my wife knows for playing the grand mother of John Carter (Noah Wyle’s character) on ER, died on Monday at age 93.

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piratedan  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:46:24pm

re: #81 Belafon

she had a pretty memorable turn as the mining station physician along with Sean Connery in that sci-fi classic Outland

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:51:57pm

re: #15 darthstar

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Plane makes flight across Atlantic on fat and sugar…

Could someone photoshop that WaPo airplane picture with the fusilage as a twinkie?

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austin_blue  Nov 29, 2023 • 7:55:36pm

re: #83 BlueSpotinAL ✅

Plane makes flight across Atlantic on fat and sugar…

Could someone photoshop that WaPo airplane picture with the fusilage as a twinkie?

I think it might be more appropriate to replace the engines with Twinkies, given where the fuel is burned.

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darthstar  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:06:29pm

re: #84 austin_blue

I think it might be more appropriate to replace the engines with Twinkies, given where the fuel is burned.

The plane’s hips need to be wider.

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SerialUpDinger  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:11:48pm

YouTube

Here is a palate cleanser for the awful things we scroll through. Be amazed and then do something amazing!

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BeachDem  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:30:12pm

HuffPo not pulling any punches with their header.

THE BELTWAY BUTCHER

WAR CRIMINAL KISSINGER DEAD AT 100

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:33:32pm

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

Though Kissinger may receive praises from politicians on both sides of the aisle, that will never be true for Trump.

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BlueSpotinAL ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:33:44pm

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:35:24pm

re: #37 teleskiguy

Dad missed Kissinger’s demise by 27 days. He only lived to be 74. Fucking Kissinger made it to a hundred and by most accounts had his marbles about him even into very old age.

Rest in piss, you piece of shit.

He was a History Teacher for over 40 years. It was his greatest academic passion, Dad LOVED history.

Here I am. Dad is gone. We can’t talk about Henry Kissinger dying. That genuinely makes me sad. Grief of a close loved one is hard.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:39:17pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

He was a History Teacher for over 40 years. It was his greatest academic passion, Dad LOVED history.

Here I am. Dad is gone. We can’t talk about Henry Kissinger dying. That genuinely makes me sad. Grief of a close loved one is hard.

How’s your mom doing?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:43:55pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:47:41pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:48:00pm

re: #91 wrenchwench

Her and I are great. Her on her own? Well, shit. Remains to be seen. Elder sisters are taking some steps to get Mom out there.

I live with Mom now, and tonight her and I were talking and for the first time she said the words “new life” in a sentence in front of me. Mom has always been resilient.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:48:32pm

Just woke up again on my night off to this glorious news. Beer & rum time!

Reagan, Thatcher, Pinochet & Franco FINALLY have a new roomie in their dorm room with No Exit in Hell.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:49:39pm

re: #93 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Here’s a direct link to a larger view of the image
pbs.twimg.com

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BigPapa  Nov 29, 2023 • 8:52:33pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Troglodyte shitass in a bow tie. Doesn’t fool anybody.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:01:58pm

re: #95 William Lewis

Just woke up again on my night off to this glorious news. Beer & rum time!

Reagan, Thatcher, Pinochet & Franco FINALLY have a new roomie in their dorm room with No Exit in Hell.

Reagan, Thatcher, Pinochet, and Franco all have fan clubs at Free Republic but Kissinger, not so much. His Jewish heritage may make him suspect to the paleocons and birchers, despite his great work on behalf of fascism.

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wrenchwench  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:06:28pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Her and I are great. Her on her own? Well, shit. Remains to be seen. Elder sisters are taking some steps to get Mom out there.

I live with Mom now, and tonight her and I were talking and for the first time she said the words “new life” in a sentence in front of me. Mom has always been resilient.

I bet your sisters are glad to have you there.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:13:04pm

re: #98 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Reagan, Thatcher, Pinochet, and Franco all have fan clubs at Free Republic but Kissinger, not so much. His Jewish heritage may make him suspect to the paleocons and birchers, despite his great work on behalf of fascism.

That’s part of it but the thing conservatives really worship is raw power, leadership, the strongman (or woman in Thatcher’s case) and for all his import Kissinger was just some Grima Wormtongue ass toady steadily whispering poison into the ears of power.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:18:48pm

re: #100 goddamnedfrank

That’s part of it but the thing conservatives really worship is raw power, leadership, the strongman (or woman in Thatcher’s case) and for all his import Kissinger was just some Grima Wormtongue ass toady steadily whispering poison into the ears of power.

Only because Hamilton stuck the “natural born citizen” clause in the constitution regarding the presidency. Otherwise that scumbag would have grabbed for the brass ring just like the Mango Moron. He couldn’t get that so he strove for power every other way he could, like the thug he was.

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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:19:52pm
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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:21:36pm

re: #102 EstebanTornado1963

Who? Can’t follow Xitter any more ;)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:37:34pm

re: #103 William Lewis

Dubya making a statement about Kissinger.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:38:13pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Kissinger’s policy decisions and advice to Nixon very nearly got me killed, personally, for real. Many thousands of others, possibly millions, were not so fortunate. I can still smell the dead outside An Loc and on the road from Quang Tri.
Yeah, I volunteered and all but the war should have ended years before I got to Vietnam.
I am elated that I have outlived the mass murdering son of a bitch.

During Nixon’s first administration, when Kissinger spoke publicly, MSM was not allowed to record his speeches - only film - no audio. The Nixon administration was concerned Kissingers heavy German accent would raise unwelcome comparisons to Nazi Germany.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:47:06pm

Spelling matters

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 9:48:58pm

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Dubya making a statement about Kissinger.

Should have fucking known. < spit >

The only thing to be unhappy about Kissinger going to hell is that he can’t be renditioned to The Hague for war crimes trials anymore. If I could have been dictator for a day that would have been one of my first orders to the CIA …

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:04:28pm

re: #26 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Kissinger’s policy decisions and advice to Nixon very nearly got me killed, personally, for real. Many thousands of others, possibly millions, were not so fortunate. I can still smell the dead outside An Loc and on the road from Quang Tri.
Yeah, I volunteered and all but the war should have ended years before I got to Vietnam.
I am elated that I have outlived the mass murdering son of a bitch.

I, for one, am grateful that the motherfucker failed in your case & even more elated that you survived him. From “A Civil Campaign” by Lois McMasters Bujold:

Your honor is intact; you outlived the bastard.

This old sergeant salutes you, sir.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:21:22pm

re: #99 wrenchwench

I bet your sisters are glad to have you there.

They’re reluctant to let me know. They’re all still internalizing that I was there the whole time and they weren’t.

Folks, families are *fucked Up*.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:25:10pm

Cancer is a cruel disease.

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Unabogie  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:27:40pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:30:36pm

Daryl Hall Spills on Legal Feud With John Oates in New Court Filing: Report

More details surrounding the legal feud between Hall and Oates bandmates Daryl Hall and John Oates has been revealed, with a first-person declaration filed in court and obtained by People. The document, written by Hall, explains how he felt “ambushed” when Oates approached him about his plans to sell his stake of a joint business venture to a company that already owns a significant part of their publishing rights. “This recent bad faith conduct by John Oates and the Oates Trust has created tremendous upheaval, harm, and difficulty in my life, not to mention unnecessary expense and burden, during a time when I am in the middle of a tour throughout the U.S. West Coast, Japan, and Manilla and need to focus and perform at top level,” Hall claimed, according to People. “I believe that John Oates timed the Unauthorized Transaction to create the most harm to me. Respectfully, he must be stopped from this latest wrongdoing and his malicious conduct reined in once and for all.” Lawyers for both parties did not respond to a request for comment from People.

people.com

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:34:23pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Her and I are great. Her on her own? Well, shit. Remains to be seen. Elder sisters are taking some steps to get Mom out there.

I live with Mom now, and tonight her and I were talking and for the first time she said the words “new life” in a sentence in front of me. Mom has always been resilient.

I think that is very much how my mother approached things after my father died. It was a new phase with new opportunities and different challenges. I think she got a lot of closure when she put her wedding band in the box we interred my father’s ashes in at the memorial service.

About a year later she moved back east and settled in northwestern PA (Meadville). That put her a few houses drive from both her surviving children and also not that far from my aunt who she went to Elderhostel events with. This also worked out for holidays for a few years since I often would go north to my brother’s house for Christmas and I could pick her up on the way and save her the driving effort.

And she maintained a good set of activities while her health lasted. Did volunteer work with the local library and UU Church. And also found a new hiking group and helped with rail-to-trails work in the region.

I miss my parents, but it’s also part of the transitions that happen in life. They live on in my memories which to a large degree is a person’s true legacy. And from what you have seen your father made a solid positive impression in a lot of people.

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William Lewis  Nov 29, 2023 • 10:41:45pm

Looking for something else, I saw this bit of wisdom:

“Improvise is one of the few battle plans that survives contact with the enemy.”
— Sam Starfall, Freefall

😉

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 11:14:57pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 11:22:01pm

re: #113 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

your father made a solid positive impression in a lot of people.

boy howdy. I’m overwhelmed by the output of gratitude and grief from all the fuck over.

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teleskiguy  Nov 29, 2023 • 11:27:35pm

“Your Dad was the reason I became a teacher.”

Several of those.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 12:29:15am

re: #14 Eclectic Cyborg

It will be even worse when Trump dies.

Hopefully in prison.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 12:38:44am

re: #118 No Malarkey!

Hopefully in prison.

“The Warden of the Federal Supermax Prison in Florence, Colorado, announced at a hastily-convened press conference late last night that Donald Trump, the disgraced 45th U.S. President, had died of natural causes at the prison’s infirmary early yesterday evening. Trump was, of course, infamous for being the first, and only, U.S. President to be incarcerated for crimes committed during his four-year tenure. The Warden went on to state that……”

I think that’d be a good opening paragraph.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 12:51:23am

I still have serious doubts that DJT Trump will wind up serving any prison time. Perhaps parole or house arrest at the most.

I think that the best outcome we can expect is that he will lose all his money and assets, and have to live from the RW publicity machine as a guest speaker and “author” of ghostwritten publications, and, finally that the GOP will finally have enough sense not to run him as a candidate.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 12:56:34am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still have serious doubts that DJT Trump will wind up serving any prison time. Perhaps parole or house arrest at the most.

I think that the best outcome we can expect is that he will lose all his money and assets, and have to live from the RW publicity machine as a guest speaker and “author” of ghostwritten publications, and, finally that the GOP will finally have enough sense not to run him as a candidate.

If he is convicted in D.C. for his crimes that so many J6 insurrectionists have done time for, I don’t believe either Jack Smith will recommend or Judge Chutkan will be inclined to sentence Trump to house arrest.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 12:58:14am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 30, 2023 • 1:13:48am

re: #122 No Malarkey!

I get that people dislike Kissinger because he so coldly ignored the plight of the victims of the dictators he supported.

But when I read in that article:

Yet Kissinger’s spin on this school of thought, as a practitioner, seriously damaged U.S. interests. It so brusquely violated American values; it hoisted such a dreadful image of America in the world, an image that our Cold War rivals and critics could exploit so easily.

And what values would those be?

In the 160 years of US history before Kissinger rose to power, the US spent most of that time stealing lands, breaking treaties, invading countries, etc.

Kissinger was no more evil than the typical American powerbroker of the past.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 1:16:36am

It looks like the Calvinball Court is going to strip executive branch federal agencies of the power to fine wrongdoers. Corporations will have free reign to rip off consumers and investors, pollute the environment, violate employees’ rights and subject them to unsafe work conditions, and otherwise ignore federal laws, knowing the federal courts lack the capacity to hear all of the cases. But at least some people got to demonstrate their moral purity by not voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2023 • 1:40:57am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I get that people dislike Kissinger because he so coldly ignored the plight of the victims of the dictators he supported.

But when I read in that article:

And what values would those be?

In the 160 years of US history before Kissinger rose to power, the US spent most of that time stealing lands, breaking treaties, invading countries, etc.

Kissinger was no more evil than the typical American powerbroker of the past.

Eh, what he did was blatantly and obviously violate the values most of us hold. Now 90% of us don’t pretend that we expect reality to uphold them, but in our hearts, those are the dreams we have. He used our fantasies to ratfuck our reality.

I know that reality will never be quite what we want it to be.

But the people like Kissenger that steal our dreams and smash them while putting people like Pinochet into power? I could have spent decades introducing him to classic medieval tortures before slitting hit throat and sending him back to his master in hell.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 1:42:05am

re: #125 William Lewis

But the people like Kissenger that steal our dreams and smash them while putting people like Pinochet into power? I could have spent decades introducing him to classic medieval tortures before slitting hit throat and sending him back to his master in hell.

In doing so, he summoned demons who are still haunting us.

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William Lewis  Nov 30, 2023 • 2:13:50am

Thanks to the Humble Bundle, I just read Scalzi’s “Kaiju Preservation Society”. Exquisite bit of SF. If you like the genre, read it. Period. You want to. Trust me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:09:44am

re: #127 William Lewis

Thanks to the Humble Bundle, I just read Scalzi’s “Kaiju Preservation Society”. Exquisite bit of SF. If you like the genre, read it. Period. You want to. Trust me.

That was the premise of a film I went to see as a kid, Destroy All Monsters, that all the Kaiju were put on an island where they could live without disturbing us but then things went wrong.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:27:26am
A lawyer who represents Donald Trump told federal prosecutors that she “very clearly” warned the former president that it would “be a crime” if he failed to fully return all classified materials to the U.S. government after being issued a subpoena, ABC News reports.

The lawyer, Jennifer Little, told investigators Trump “absolutely” understood the warning

Someone had to tell, explain, warn the POTUS that it was wrong to take stuff that didn’t belong to him.

Now they’re gonna argue whether he sufficiently “understood” this kindergarten level concept.

And he’s running for the office again.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:37:08am

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

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The word “believe” is all wong there

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:38:46am

re: #130 Dangerman

The word “believe” is all wong there

“Believe” as in it is his religious belief arising from his interpretation of the meaning of “Biblical marriage”

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:41:17am

re: #129 Dangerman

Someone had to tell, explain, warn the POTUS that it was wrong to take stuff that didn’t belong to him.

Now they’re gonna argue whether he sufficiently “understood” this kindergarten level concept.

And he’s running for the office again.

At this point, whether he understood or not is not the question. As far as the law is concerned, the questions are:

1) Was he adequately warned what he was doing was a crime, and
2) Did he do it anyway.

The answer to both of those, it appears, is yes. That’s not good for him, so unless they are going to plead that he is mentally unfit to stand trial, I see that case ending one of two ways: Guilty, or Loose Cannon gets him off on a technicality (but I am not yet convinced that she is in the tank for him specifically, merely spectacularly incompetent).

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:41:36am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I get that people dislike Kissinger because he so coldly ignored the plight of the victims of the dictators he supported.

But when I read in that article:

And what values would those be?

In the 160 years of US history before Kissinger rose to power, the US spent most of that time stealing lands, breaking treaties, invading countries, etc.

Kissinger was no more evil than the typical American powerbroker of the past.

But McCarthy just said we never “asked for” any land from the wars we were in

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:42:47am

re: #133 Dangerman

But McCarthy just said we never “asked for” any land from the wars we were in

We were just pre-emptively defending ourselves against Mexican aggression in 1846.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:42:52am

re: #133 Dangerman

But McCarthy just said we never “asked for” any land from the wars we were in

I mean, he isn’t wrong. We never asked for any land. We kinda just walked in and took it.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:44:00am

re: #131 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Believe” as in it is his religious belief arising from his interpretation of the meaning of “Biblical marriage”

Yup, like I said.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:44:38am

This is from Bluesky, a repost from Anymouse, and I literally couldn’t stop laughing about it when I saw it. Sometimes humans get it right.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:44:43am

re: #128 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That was the premise of a film I went to see as a kid, Destroy All Monsters, that all the Kaiju were put on an island where they could live without disturbing us but then things went wrong.

I have that film in my collection, the original Japanese dialogue version (w/ English subtitles). One of my favorites from the Showa-era Godzilla flicks. Sure, it’s a thin plot, and the characters are pretty one-dimensional, but for the inner ten-year-old in all of us, it’s great fun.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:47:43am

re: #132 Nerdy Fish

At this point, whether he understood or not is not the question. As far as the law is concerned, the questions are:

1) Was he adequately warned what he was doing was a crime, and
2) Did he do it anyway.

The answer to both of those, it appears, is yes. That’s not good for him, so unless they are going to plead that he is mentally unfit to stand trial, I see that case ending one of two ways: Guilty, or Loose Cannon gets him off on a technicality (but I am not yet convinced that she is in the tank for him specifically, merely spectacularly incompetent).

I’m with ya.

Presidents get/ ask for legal opinions all the time. Things aren’t always clear. Or a situation is novel. or they want cover to do something.

I’m flabbergasted at the necessity for #1 in this context. Like I said, kindergarten and President

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:50:34am

Here’s the original Japanese marquee poster for Destroy All Monsters (怪獣総進撃 [Kaijū Sōshingeki], literally translated as “Monster Total Advancement”) -

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:51:22am

Not bad.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:55:34am

Great start, great finish.

Wordle 894 2/6*

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2023 • 3:58:30am

Man… 😂😂😂

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:05:53am

I had a major crush on Peter Jennings back in the day.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:07:21am

Some Friday-Eve drive time music.

Muse - Knights Of Cydonia (Video)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:08:38am

re: #138 Dr Lizardo

I have that film in my collection, the original Japanese dialogue version (w/ English subtitles). One of my favorites from the Showa-era Godzilla flicks. Sure, it’s a thin plot, and the characters are pretty one-dimensional, but for the inner ten-year-old in all of us, it’s great fun.

I was ten years old when I saw it. It was perfect.

Save for the fact that I went to see it with the Mexican kids on our block at the Palace Theater in Gary, Indiana, where it was on a double bill with some blacksploitation detective film.

We got there at the end of the latter, just as the hero was beating the sh*t out of the white antagonist as the theater crowd cheered him on.

I realized at that point that I was the only white person in the theater and slouched down lower in my seat between Xavier and Amos…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:09:22am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Here’s the original Japanese marquee poster for Destroy All Monsters (怪獣総進撃 [Kaijū Sōshingeki], literally translated as “Monster Total Advancement”) -

Talk about a kick-ass band name.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:12:47am

re: #146 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Destroy All Monsters on a double-bill with a Blaxploitation detective film? That’s quite the double feature, LOL.

And yes…Monster Total Advancement would indeed be a kick-ass band name.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:14:57am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

Destroy All Monsters on a double-bill with a Blaxploitation detective film? That’s quite the double feature, LOL.

And yes…Monster Total Advancement would indeed be a kick-ass band name.

Yes, I would love to find out which one, I guess it would involve scouring the Gary Newspapers for their film ads from 1968 to see what was on a double bill with Monster Testosterone Enhancement…. I am pretty sure that the blackspolitation film was the main feature and the monster movie was just program filler.

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Nerdy Fish  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:16:05am

I read Rolling Stone’s scathing obituary on the late Henry Kissinger. Anyone who says they want to “make America great again” really needs a fucking history lesson. I was somewhat aware of most of those things, but by no means all; proving that no matter how evil you thought the man was, there’s always more.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:18:26am

Ah, and the music to Destroy all Monsters is by Akira Ifukube, who invented the Godzilla roar by dragging a resin-soaked leather glove across an upright bass.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:24:22am
Hundreds of pro-Palestinian protesters swarmed the streets surrounding Rockefeller Center Wednesday, clashing with NYPD cops and chanting “river to the sea,” long seen as an antisemitic slogan, in an effort to derail the annual tree lighting in support of Gaza.

Waving Palestinian flags and signs calling for the “end to genocide,” the ralliers gathered along Sixth Avenue alongside hordes of tourists waiting in line to see the iconic ceremony.

Unable to get to the NYC Christmas tree, the enormous crowd instead swarmed around the tree outside the News Corp building, which houses The Post and Fox News, and has already been targeted by pro-Palestinian protesters on at least two occasions.

nypost.com

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Nojay UK  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:24:28am

re: #140 Dr Lizardo

Here’s the original Japanese marquee poster for Destroy All Monsters (怪獣総進撃 [Kaijū Sōshingeki], literally translated as “Monster Total Advancement”)

Depends how you parse the “wall of kanji”. I think it’s more like “Kaijū fuchi Shingeki”. The “fuchi” kanji is a counter, as in “number of”, rather than being part of a jukugo like the last two kanji.

That parsing could be translated as “The Charge Of Many/All Monsters”. Don’t know where the “Destroy” came from in the English-language title. It might have been an attempt to focus on the humans fighting the monsters for the English release whereas the Japanese audiences were probably rooting for the rubber-suits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:28:34am

re: #153 Nojay UK

Depends how you parse the “wall of kanji”. I think it’s more like “Kaijū fuchi Shingeki”. The “fuchi” kanji is a counter, as in “number of”, rather than being part of a jukugo like the last two kanji.

That parsing could be translated as “The Charge Of Many/All Monsters”. Don’t know where the “Destroy” came from in the English-language title. It might have been an attempt to focus on the humans fighting the monsters for the English release whereas the Japanese audiences were probably rooting for the rubber-suits.

especially the cute baby Godzilla

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:41:32am

Shane MacGowan of The Pogues has died at 65.

Shane MacGowan, the lead singer and songwriter of trailblazing Celtic punk band the Pogues and one of the all-time great bandleaders, has died aged 65 following a long period of ill health. A family statement said he died at 3.30am on 30 November, and was described as “our most beautiful, darling and dearly beloved”.

His wife Victoria Mary Clarke wrote in a statement on social media: “Shane will always be the light that I hold before me and the measure of my dreams and the love of my life … I am blessed beyond words to have met him and to have loved him and to have been so endlessly and unconditionally loved by him.”

In December 2022, MacGowan was hospitalised with viral encephalitis, and as a result spent several months of 2023 in intensive care.

theguardian.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:43:44am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

Shane MacGowan of The Pogues has died at 65.

theguardian.com

Gotta remember to put Fairytale of New York on the set list next weekend…

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Nojay UK  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:45:35am

re: #154 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

especially the cute baby Godzilla

Godsuke. What a brat! Daddy Gojira would send the little pill flying across the landscape with a swipe of his tail when his antics got too much to bear.

No sign of Mecha-Gojira in the poster, that may have come along later.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:46:32am

Fuck cancer.

Shannen Doherty is not losing hope after announcing her stage 4 breast cancer has spread to her bones.

In a story published Wednesday, the 52-year-old actress told People Magazine that she remains in high spirits despite her cancer spreading. She said she is determined to move forward with her acting work, raise awareness for cancer research, and “reflect on the big picture” of her life.

“I don’t want to die,” Doherty said.

The “Charmed” and “Beverly Hills, 90210” actor said she hopes to get into clinical trials as new treatments are developed but what drives her now is the desire “to prove” that she can work despite her cancer diagnosis.

“I’m not done with living,” she told People “I’m not done with loving. I’m not done with creating. I’m not done with hopefully changing things for the better. I’m just not — I’m not done.”

cbsnews.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:47:29am

re: #158 Shropshire Slasher

Fuck cancer.

Took two of my sisters…

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BigPapa  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:52:59am

Tuesday: ‘Let’s see how Earth responds to that’

Wednesday: Kissinger dies

And of course, Monster Total Advancement would be an amazing band name.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:53:26am

Birb is satisfactory
Wordle 894 3/6

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Ming5000  Nov 30, 2023 • 4:59:52am

re: #51 darthstar

Everything banking related is remote now. My historic bank is in San Antonio and spouse’s bank is Fidelity. We are in Michigan. Your post made me wonder if something local would be a nice upgrade. If something like you describe is possible these days.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:11:54am

As I’ve heard, these things come in 3’s.

Who fills the bag this time?

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:13:21am

re: #155 Dr Lizardo

Shane MacGowan of The Pogues has died at 65.

theguardian.com

Photos, etcetera.

dailymail.co.uk

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Randall Gross  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:14:06am

Upper case and lower case numerals, they are a thing
en.wikipedia.org

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:15:40am

re: #162 Ming5000

Everything banking related is remote now. My historic bank is in San Antonio and spouse’s bank is Fidelity. We are in Michigan. Your post made me wonder if something local would be a nice upgrade. If something like you describe is possible these days.

They closed not only the local branch offices to my Sparkasse but also the ATM machines, I have to drive at least eight miles to get to one that does not charge me for use.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:16:33am

Good morning…let’s start with a little logistics, shall we?

Russia’s main rail link to China has been left paralyzed after Ukraine’s Security Service blew up a tunnel in the Russian republic of Buryatia, it has been reported.

The explosions in the Severomuysky Tunnel were masterminded by the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), “paralyzing the only serious route of railway communication between the Russian Federation and China,” news outlet RBC-Ukraine reported on Thursday, citing sources with knowledge of the matter.

The Severomuysky Tunnel is a railroad connection on the Baikal-Amur Mainline (BAM) in northwestern Buryatia.

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Ming5000  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:18:14am

re: #167 darthstar

Hopefully death by a thousand cuts.
More!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:19:10am

re: #167 darthstar

Good morning…let’s start with a little logistics, shall we?

So much territory, so many resources, so little infrastructure…

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Randall Gross  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:19:32am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:22:17am

re: #157 Nojay UK

Godsuke. What a brat! Daddy Gojira would send the little pill flying across the landscape with a swipe of his tail when his antics got too much to bear.

No sign of Mecha-Gojira in the poster, that may have come along later.

Mechagodzilla’s first appearance was in 1974, six years after Destroy All Monsters.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:22:53am

re: #166 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They closed not only the local branch offices to my Sparkasse but also the ATM machines, I have to drive at least eight miles to get to one that does not charge me for use.

On the other hand, I can get cash out from the supermarket. I have not visited a bank branch office since I had to set up my daughters’ accounts.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:27:49am

“It is forbidden to respond to terror with terror.”

Mastodon

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Ming5000  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:30:46am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, I can get cash out from the supermarket. I have not visited a bank branch office since I had to set up my daughters’ accounts.

There do seem to be benefits to having a local bank. Possible lower fees, cash (both domestic and foreign).
We are where we are now is due, partly, to the local banks we belonged to being swallowed by bigger banks.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:31:35am
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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:32:25am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It isn’t surprising that Kissinger is dead. It’s that he lived this long in the first place.

He was always about realpolitik, and how to use and abuse others to preserve US power. That he was considered an elder statesman despite his disastrous run from Vietnam to Laos to Cambodia is shocking given how many died because he sought to prolong the war to help Nixon win an election.

I also find it very disturbing that people considered Zbigniew Brzezinski to be a Kissinger knockoff/wannabe, but he was far more principled and dedicated to freedom and human rights than Kissinger ever was.

Heck, Kissinger nearly fucked over Israel in the 1973 war by delaying arms that Israel needed to fend off the Syrians and Egyptians from overrunning the IDF positions.

Yeah, Pepperidge Farms remembers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:32:58am

re: #174 Ming5000

There do seem to be benefits to having a local bank. Possible lower fees, cash (both domestic and foreign).
We are where we are now is due, partly, to the local banks we belonged to being swallowed by bigger banks.

And closing affiliates and cutting personnel right and left…my ex-GF was lucky to get out of commercial banking and into the German Federal Reserve, where she was able to keep her job until retiring this year.

Other bankers her age and even younger found themselves unemployed and unemployable.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:33:21am

Basically, it’ll be like an interview with Kristen Welker.

Mastodon

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:34:55am

re: #157 Nojay UK

Godsuke. What a brat! Daddy Gojira would send the little pill flying across the landscape with a swipe of his tail when his antics got too much to bear.

No sign of Mecha-Gojira in the poster, that may have come along later.

There’s no such thing as Godzuki in the films. Godzuki is an invention of the late seventies American Hanna-Barbera Godzilla cartoon. The “Son of Godzilla” is “Minira” (in Japanese), transliterated as “Minilla” in modern English dubs and “Minya” in older English dubs.

Godzuki has comically small little wings and can fly. Minilla doesn’t and blows smoke rings. (“He blows, alright.” I hear someone riff.)

And yes, Mechagodzilla came along later, in 1974.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:35:05am

re: #178 darthstar

[Putin] created a “combat group” that will turn down questions that “sow panic and have no relation to reality”.

…in other words: “questions that he cannot answer without embarrassing himself”.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:43:04am

re: #142 Nerdy Fish

Great start, great finish.

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3/6 here. Second guess gave me all I needed.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:46:04am

Weird, guess McCarthy is considering fucking over his successor and the GOP by quitting before the start of the new year.

Good. Let’s narrow the margins that the GOP controls the House, and make it even harder for Johnson to hold control. Then again, McCarthy may think that by doing so, he’s advancing the obstructionist/seditionist hold on government by sabotaging functioning govt.

Throw in Santos potentially getting expelled, and the margin would narrow even further.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:50:06am

re: #181 Eventual Carrion

3/6 here. Second guess gave me all I needed.

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Cleaned the bong and got an eagle.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 5:53:17am

Biden proposes a plan to eliminate lead from water distribution systems over 10 years. It would cost $30 billion nationally, but it would vastly improve water safety nationally.

I’d argue that the program should heed the lessons of places like Newark NJ, that was able to eliminate lead from water supply lines in a far shorter timeframe than originally expected.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:00:53am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:01:26am

re: #175 Shropshire Slasher

Best Christmas song ever.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:05:18am

Well, if this is true then it was a well planned explosion indeed.

Mastodon

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:15:39am

re: #124 No Malarkey!

It looks like the Calvinball Court is going to strip executive branch federal agencies of the power to fine wrongdoers. Corporations will have free reign to rip off consumers and investors, pollute the environment, violate employees’ rights and subject them to unsafe work conditions, and otherwise ignore federal laws, knowing the federal courts lack the capacity to hear all of the cases. But at least some people got to demonstrate their moral purity by not voting for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

“You know what we’re missing? A stock market crash. It’s almost 100 years since the last one.” - Conservative Supreme Court

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:15:49am

re: #187 darthstar

Considering that Russia is sourcing a bunch of ammo from North Korea and China, this is a huge hit to their supply chain (which is already pretty screwed up out of the box).

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:21:12am

re: #189 lawhawk

Considering that Russia is sourcing a bunch of ammo from North Korea and China, this is a huge hit to their supply chain (which is already pretty screwed up out of the box).

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw the story and looked for confirmation - the Newsweek story I linked upthread has some pretty good details - workers are trying (and failing) to mitigate the damage - four explosions went off on the fuel laden train inside the tunnel. That’s basically going to create a melted steel plug. It’d be faster to dig a new tunnel alongside.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:25:36am

I woke up with this in my head, not knowing where it came from. It comes from youTube now, into all of your heads.

I Wonder Who’s Kissinger Now

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dat_said  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:26:20am

CBS News: North Dakota State extends new scholarship brought amid worries about Minnesota tuition program

Background: Last legislative session, MN passed a bill authorizing free tuition for any MN student attending a MN state or community college if family income was less than $80k. ND legislators immediately started whining and threatening some form of court action. Private college Concordia at Morehead MN (across the Red River from NDSU & Fargo) announced this fall free tuition for MN & ND residents if family income less than $90k. NDSU started panicking more and finally offered a one-time one-year free tuition for ND & MN residents meeting income requirements. NDSU has now extended that to two years.

About half of NDSU students come from Minnesota.

Thank you MN legislature for creating a cascading event.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:26:45am

Music fans take note…

Mastodon

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:28:01am
One person was detained Thursday morning after a car rammed into a security barrier outside a House of Representatives office building

Images showed a heavily damaged white sedan outside the Rayburn Office Building while officers apprehended a person nearby.

The incident took place while indicted Rep. George Santos (R-NY) was holding a press conference ahead of a debate and vote on his potential expulsion from Congress.

nypost.com

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:30:25am

re: #190 darthstar

Fires in rail tunnels have caused major disruptions in the past.

Chunnel fire in 1996 caused 6 months of shutdown/delays before fully reopening.
Gotthard Base tunnel derailment caused almost a year worth of delays.

A purposeful blast, explosion, and derailment would cause significantly more damage, and delays. Given Russia’s issues with infrastructure, this is going to take time, also due to remote location involved.

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dat_said  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:30:27am

re: #192 dat_said

There was a time when a person could work a summer job at or just above minimum wage and make enough to attend a state school. At least that’s what I did. Not so much anymore as legislatures across the country have shifted education and tuition costs to the students.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:35:10am

Musk to advertisers - go fuck yourself if you’re bullying Twitter (sorry, it’s fucking Twitter) by withholding ad money.

Musk to others - go fuck yourself as I’m going to withhold my money from your businesses, because do as I say, not as I do.

Musk can go fuck himself, and watch Twitter continue to implode as a viable platform because advertisers and brands decide to go elsewhere.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:42:51am

re: #196 dat_said

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There was a time when a person could work a summer job at or just above minimum wage and make enough to attend a state school. At least that’s what I did. Not so much anymore as legislatures across the country have shifted education and tuition costs to the students.

The room and board at the University of Oklahoma, where my son is going, is more than tuition. He would have to put in about 45 hours per week to cover the total cost.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:48:14am

Just what we need…

washingtonpost.com

The U.S. government has stopped helping Big Tech spot meddling from Russia and other foreign actors amid GOP legal threats

The federal government is reversing a years-long approach to preventing Russia and other actors from interfering in American politics less than a year before the U.S. presidential election, company officials say. The development underscores the far-reaching impact of a conservative legal campaign against initiatives established to avoid a repeat of the 2016 election, when Russia manipulated social media in an attempt to sow chaos and swing the vote for Donald Trump.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:48:38am

And now it’s off to the Courthouse for a thrilling day of jury duty…

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:49:12am

re: #200 Joe Bacon ✅

Bring something to read.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:49:49am

re: #200 Joe Bacon ✅

And now it’s off to the Courthouse for a thrilling day of jury duty…

Just remember…they wouldn’t be there if they weren’t guilty.

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:57:07am
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Sherlock Hound  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:57:58am

re: #137 Nerdy Fish

Anymouse reskeeted a Kissinger post from Talia Levin. It was at 666 at the time I saw it. 😁

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2023 • 6:59:50am

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jeffreyw  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:07:00am

Good morning!

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:11:30am
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sizzzzlerz  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:18:22am

re: #202 darthstar

Just remember…they wouldn’t be there if they weren’t guilty.

Excuse me, Sir! You are trying to taint the jury pool. Who do you think you are? TFG?

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darthstar  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:24:48am

re: #207 Belafon

Not a lot of love lost between Moskowitz and Comer.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:29:10am

Birbie! It’s been a while.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:30:46am

re: #198 Belafon

The room and board at the University of Oklahoma, where my son is going, is more than tuition. He would have to put in about 45 hours per week to cover the total cost.

And let me guess that the university requires first-year students to purchase at least board from the university if not room and board.

Saw the University of Pittsburgh do this as their enrollment started to drop and as the room and board costs compared to the quality of service had more and more students living in questionable apartments and eating generic brand mac and cheese. They kept the lottery for room selection in the various dormitories, but soon started requiring incoming freshmen to purchase at least the minimal cafeteria meal plan. I don’t recall if they required freshmen to take up university housing as well but some universities have done that to make sure their housing is fully occupied.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:41:05am

re: #188 Belafon

“You know what we’re missing? A stock market crash. It’s almost 100 years since the last one.” - Conservative Supreme Court

That will do a good job of redistributing more money into fewer hands

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:41:11am

re: #210 A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS

Birbie! It’s been a while.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:41:41am

re: #211 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And let me guess that the university requires first-year students to purchase at least board from the university if not room and board.

Saw the University of Pittsburgh do this as their enrollment started to drop and as the room and board costs compared to the quality of service had more and more students living in questionable apartments and eating generic brand mac and cheese. They kept the lottery for room selection in the various dormitories, but soon started requiring incoming freshmen to purchase at least the minimal cafeteria meal plan. I don’t recall if they required freshmen to take up university housing as well but some universities have done that to make sure their housing is fully occupied.

Room and board unless you can prove you commute.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:43:00am

re: #196 dat_said

There was a time when a person could work a summer job at or just above minimum wage and make enough to attend a state school. At least that’s what I did. Not so much anymore as legislatures across the country have shifted education and tuition costs to the students.

And even if you had to take out student loans, it was a few thousand dollars’ worth, not tens of thousands.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:43:18am

Inflation as measured by the PCE Index, the Feds preferred inflation statistic, has gone down again in October. Expectations are that the Fed is done raising interest rates, and will begin cutting rates next year.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:44:20am

re: #216 No Malarkey!

Inflation as measured by the PCE Index, the Feds preferred inflation statistic, has gone down again in October. Expectations are that the Fed is done raising interest rates, and will begin cutting rates next year.

Republicans launch investigations into Biden fixing the economy to help his reelection.

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austin_blue  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:45:42am

re: #127 William Lewis

Thanks to the Humble Bundle, I just read Scalzi’s “Kaiju Preservation Society”. Exquisite bit of SF. If you like the genre, read it. Period. You want to. Trust me.

And then read his latest Starter Villain.

By the way has Kissinger’s shambling corpus reanimated yet? It will, you know. Some folks are too evil to Stay Dead.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:46:19am

re: #217 Belafon

Republicans launch investigations into Biden fixing the economy to help his reelection.

Remember the hissy fit they threw about him selling off part of our strategic petroleum reserves when gas prices were peaking?

And the absolute silence when he refilled them a lower price than what the government earned from selling them?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:47:50am

re: #218 austin_blue

And then read his latest Starter Villain.

By the way has Kissinger’s shambling corpus reanimated yet? It will, you know. Some folks are too evil to Stay Dead.

But he will only be able to come out at night, so there’s that.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:48:51am

re: #196 dat_said

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There was a time when a person could work a summer job at or just above minimum wage and make enough to attend a state school. At least that’s what I did. Not so much anymore as legislatures across the country have shifted education and tuition costs to the students.

This is in part due to increased demand, since most people did not go to college after high school fifty years ago.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:50:32am

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember the hissy fit they threw about him selling off part of our strategic petroleum reserves when gas prices were peaking?

And the absolute silence when he refilled them a lower price than what the government earned from selling them?

Not even Satan wants him around.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:51:22am

re: #221 No Malarkey!

This is in part due to increased demand, since most people did not go to college after high school fifty years ago.

Because the demand for people without a college degree has declined…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:53:21am

re: #222 Belafon

Not even Satan wants him around.

Biden has outfoxed the GOP at nearly every turn.

Need to pitch an article about why this is bad news for him.

But the final arbiter will be the outcome of the election (the ballot counts, the ballot certification, the certification of electors…all a nerve-wracking process down to the final Congressional certification in January 2025)

If your election lasts for than four months, consult your doctor.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:55:02am

re: #224 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Somehow I hit the wrong person to reply to. This is the one I wanted:

re: #218 austin_blue

And then read his latest Starter Villain.

By the way has Kissinger’s shambling corpus reanimated yet? It will, you know. Some folks are too evil to Stay Dead.

Not even Satan wants him around.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:55:14am

re: #80 austin_blue

Were you the model of the character “Dr. Strangelove” in the Stanley Kubrick film in 1963 that had more quotable lines than any film in movie history?

No?

I think you are OK.

Kissinger was an asshole philosopher of nuclear policy like no one else.

When you embrace the term “Mutually Assured Destruction” as a reason to build as many nukes and delivery systems as you can, as opposed to saying. “Hey, maybe we should put some guardrails on these weapons so we can build more schools and feed our citizens,” you are on the wrong side of history.

We still are, and it’s Kissinger’s legacy.

Oh, and when I was an Air Force pilot, I sat Nuclear Alert at K. I. Sawyer AFB outside of Marquette MI. Was it a scary time? Hell’s yes.This was 1980 to 1983.

Well, actually the model for Dr. Strangelove was Werner von Braun — but I agree with the sentiment. (In fact, Kissinger was against the US MAD policy of that time. He made up for that by favoring the routine battlefield use of tactical nukes.)

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danarchy  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:55:32am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because the demand for people without a college degree has declined…

Which is weird, because MOST jobs could easily be done by someone without a college degree.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:55:37am
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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:56:35am

re: #223 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because the demand for people without a college degree has declined…

Yep. Secretaries at every job I worked at over the last 20 years, until they eliminated the positions, required degrees. Pretty much every white collar job requires one.

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Teukka  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:57:24am

re: #228 Vicious Babushka

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:58:16am

re: #227 danarchy

Which is weird, because MOST jobs could easily be done by someone without a college degree.

There was a time when you could take up a trade or a factory job and after you had piled up enough seniority, you found yourself earning nearly as well as people with university degrees.

Most of those jobs are gone, and most of the ones open to people without some kind of degree are dead end, low-paid and without benefits or security.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:59:07am

re: #227 danarchy

Which is weird, because MOST jobs could easily be done by someone without a college degree.

For a lot of jobs, the employer’s interest in a college background is much more about the socialization involved than about the education in it.

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2023 • 7:59:37am

re: #178 darthstar

Vetted questions by Secretary of Information Hannity that “are nice to the President” are what to expect from Trump 2025.

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danarchy  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:04:42am

re: #229 Belafon

Yep. Secretaries at every job I worked at over the last 20 years, until they eliminated the positions, required degrees. Pretty much every white collar job requires one.

They are just called office managers and administrative assistants now. Same job, different name and with a degree for some reason.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:06:38am

re: #234 danarchy

It is make sure they know how to read.

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Unabogie  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:07:41am
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dat_said  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:13:44am

re: #231 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There was a time when you could take up a trade or a factory job and after you had piled up enough seniority, you found yourself earning nearly as well as people with university degrees.

Most of those jobs are gone, and most of the ones open to people without some kind of degree are dead end, low-paid and without benefits or security.

I worked at a big mainframe computer manufacturer for the first phase of my career. The best, and I mean by far the best, engineers at the place were the non-degreed ones who had worked themselves up from technician. They were the first let go when the new Havard MBA guy took over as division president. He couldn’t fathom paying engineer salaries to somebody without a college degree. Start of the end for the corporation.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:13:56am

Trump’s attacks on the Judge’s court clerk have to end again.

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dat_said  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:15:03am

re: #238 No Malarkey!

Trump’s attacks on the Judge’s court clerk have to end again.

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And they didn’t “narrow” it? Excellent!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:15:48am

re: #237 dat_said

The best, and I mean by far the best, engineers at the place were the non-degreed ones who had worked themselves up from technician. They were the first let go when the new Havard MBA guy took over as division president. He couldn’t fathom paying engineer salaries to somebody without a college degree.

I cannot help thinking about the Sharpe series with all the aristocratic twit officers snubbing him because he was raised up from the ranks.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:17:00am

re: #238 No Malarkey!

Can’t wait for Trump to lash out at the Clerk of the Court at the appellate division. Because you know he will, and because it just reinforces the fact Trump is a fascist who seeks to incite his base to violence against Trump’s enemies.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:19:07am

re: #237 dat_said

The best engineer I ever worked with had a college degree in English.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:19:52am

re: #232 wrenchwench

For a lot of jobs, the employer’s interest in a college background is much more about the socialization involved than about the education in it.

It’s also seen by companies as deferring the cost of training to the employee.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:24:42am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That will do a good job of redistributing more money into fewer hands

Feature, not a bug.

Corporations will not be satisfied until they bleed us all dry.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:25:56am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:26:03am

re: #244 Eclectic Cyborg

Feature, not a bug.

Corporations will not be satisfied until they bleed us all dry.

“Loan us all your money and we will use it to buy everything you own and lease it back to you at reasonable rates…”

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:27:01am

re: #232 wrenchwench

For a lot of jobs, the employer’s interest in a college background is much more about the socialization involved than about the education in it.

In my opinion, the purpose of modern education is not to create human beings suitable for citizenship but rather human resources suitable for employment.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:27:16am

re: #172 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

On the other hand, I can get cash out from the supermarket. I have not visited a bank branch office since I had to set up my daughters’ accounts.

My numero uno grocery store, Publix, is 2 miles from my house, and offers cash back at no charge.

Kroger, 1/4 mile away, does not. Wanna guess store I prefer?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:27:58am

re: #247 Romantic Heretic

In my opinion, the purpose of modern education is not to create human beings suitable for citizenship but rather human resources suitable for employment.

The purpose of primary education is to create students who do well on standardized tests…

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:29:04am

re: #247 Romantic Heretic

In my opinion, the purpose of modern education is not to create human beings suitable for citizenship but rather human resources suitable for employment.

As always.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:29:48am

re: #249 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That can be made to work, if the tests are artfully made to reflect well-chosen goals.

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Nojay UK  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:30:15am

re: #247 Romantic Heretic

In my opinion, the purpose of modern education is not to create human beings suitable for citizenship but rather human resources suitable for employment.

It always has been. Only rich families could afford to have their children taught functionally-useless subjects like the Classics, Latin, Greek etc. since they’d never be so poor as to have to work for a living. Real human beings needed to learn to read, write and count to be able to work in industry, in shops, in trade, bookkeeping and the like.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:30:19am

re: #248 BeenHereAwhile

My numero uno grocery store, Publix, is 2 miles from my house, and offers cash back at no charge.

Kroger, 1/4 mile away, does not. Wanna guess store I prefer?

I remember seeing a lady ahead of me at line at the supermarket hand the cashier a €100 note, then enter something in her computer and hold it up to the check-out terminal.

I asked the cashier what she was doing, he said she was paying money into her account. So yeah, going to a bank teller is hardly necessary these days.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:32:24am

re: #252 Nojay UK

It always has been. Only rich families could afford to have their children taught functionally-useless subjects like the Classics, Latin, Greek etc. since they’d never be so poor as to have to work for a living. Real human beings needed to learn to read, write and count to be able to work in industry, in shops, in trade, bookkeeping and the like.

That can miscarry—born in a foundling home, 5 years Latin, one Ancient Greek.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:32:27am

re: #232 wrenchwench

For a lot of jobs, the employer’s interest in a college background is much more about the socialization involved than about the education in it.

True, inasmuch as the socialization is a substitute for class. This is why the mandate for a college degree climbs in direct correlation with the erosion of government investment in public education. It’s also why they pushed for so long and finally succeeded in destroying affirmative action, because the degree requirement was no longer as effective in selecting out the population that white capital wanted selected out when Black women became in percentage terms the most educated demographic.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:32:39am

Steve Hackett - Genesis 1-2 revisited (rare and unreleased gems). The audio quality is pretty damned good for this.

STEVE HACKETT - Genesis Revisited I+II (26 Tracks) By R&UT

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:34:12am

re: #120 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still have serious doubts that DJT Trump will wind up serving any prison time. Perhaps parole or house arrest at the most.

I think that the best outcome we can expect is that he will lose all his money and assets, and have to live from the RW publicity machine as a guest speaker and “author” of ghostwritten publications, and, finally that the GOP will finally have enough sense not to run him as a candidate.

Alex Jones lost a 1.5 billion dollar case and the plaintiffs haven’t seen a cent. I have no doubt Trump will manage to delay any payment for years and pay practically no penalties.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:34:19am

re: #207 Belafon

little Moskowitz

Damn, he’s not subtle at all.

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:34:21am

re: #192 dat_said

CBS News: North Dakota State extends new scholarship brought amid worries about Minnesota tuition program

Background: Last legislative session, MN passed a bill authorizing free tuition for any MN student attending a MN state or community college if family income was less than $80k. ND legislators immediately started whining and threatening some form of court action. Private college Concordia at Morehead MN (across the Red River from NDSU & Fargo) announced this fall free tuition for MN & ND residents if family income less than $90k. NDSU started panicking more and finally offered a one-time one-year free tuition for ND & MN residents meeting income requirements. NDSU has now extended that to two years.

About half of NDSU students come from Minnesota.

Thank you MN legislature for creating a cascading event.

Tuition crises initiated by Regean, when governor of CA.

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:35:11am

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:36:29am

re: #196 dat_said

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There was a time when a person could work a summer job at or just above minimum wage and make enough to attend a state school. At least that’s what I did. Not so much anymore as legislatures across the country have shifted education and tuition costs to the students.

Tuition crises initiated by Regean, when governor of CA.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:36:41am

re: #260 A Cranky One

My late mom preferred “domestic engineer.”

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:38:54am

re: #259 BeenHereAwhile

1980s/1990s GOPers insisted the way to balance state budgets was to slash and burn education spending on higher education.

What that meant was that the middle class got fucked as states cut financial support to state university systems that provided high quality education and entry point for people, esp. POC, to gain education they wouldn’t otherwise have been able to afford.

Tuition and fees rose exponentially, and it’s now out of reach for many without substantial loans.

Instead of seeing education as an investment, GOPers saw it as a cost to slash for more tax cuts to rich people.

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Teukka  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:41:01am

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:41:09am

re: #240 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I cannot help thinking about the Sharpe series with all the aristocratic twit officers snubbing him because he was raised up from the ranks.

Pretty common in literature and I suspect to a large degree in real life that those in the Old Boy Network really dislike those who achieved equal level without it. It implies that being given privilege is not hereditary and that competence and experience are equally as good.

Plus, often, a competent leader recognizes competency over privilege and favors it. Which rankles the incompetent privileged ones even more since odds are their personalities are concentrated on pride, greed, and reputation.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:44:05am

re: #194 Shropshire Slasher

nypost.com

I really hope that some confused person has not risked a lengthy jail sentence just to try to harm Santos. He’ll be gone in a little over a year anyway. In the meantime, we can use him, and his apologists, as a national symbol of Republican depravity.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:44:34am

Figures Trump would elevate a conspiracy theory from Laura Loomer, who claimed Judge Engoron’s wife was posting invectives against Trump on Twitter.

Engoron’s wife doesn’t have a twitter account, but that hasn’t stopped Trump from targeting her based on Loomer’s bulkshit.

They wont stop, even after violence occurs against Trump’s enemies.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:45:03am

Speaking of high tech banking, I posted this four years ago today:

Texas banksters have invented time travel. If you owe them money, the black magic of 21st century technology allows them to grab it instantly. If they owe you money, it’s suddenly 1890 again and you have to wait for the stagecoach to bring it in a strongbox.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:45:38am

re: #125 William Lewis

Eh, what he did was blatantly and obviously violate the values most of us hold. Now 90% of us don’t pretend that we expect reality to uphold them, but in our hearts, those are the dreams we have. He used our fantasies to ratfuck our reality.

I know that reality will never be quite what we want it to be.

But the people like Kissenger that steal our dreams and smash them while putting people like Pinochet into power? I could have spent decades introducing him to classic medieval tortures before slitting hit throat and sending him back to his master in hell.

And our involvement in the 1953 coup d’etat in Iran preceded Kissinger by a couple of decades. The world is still suffering from that decision. Kissinger was just following the policies of predecessors in the US government.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:46:47am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That’s pretty cool. We don’t have that here in Czech Republic, but I’d love to see that done.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:46:48am

re: #257 Hecuba’s daughter

Alex Jones lost a 1.5 billion dollar case and the plaintiffs haven’t seen a cent. I have no doubt Trump will manage to delay any payment for years and pay practically no penalties.

Criminal fines & penalties are harder to ignore than civil suit settlements. It will cost him, but he will be able to maintain an income stream from giving speeches and (ghost) writing articles and books all about his martyrdom at the hands of the woke, weaponized DOJ.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:48:58am

re: #142 Nerdy Fish

Great start, great finish.

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Better start and same beagle!

Wordle 894 2/6

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

Group: 2,2,3,4

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:49:53am

re: #268 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Texas banksters have invented time travel. If you owe them money, the black magic of 21st century technology allows them to grab it instantly. If they owe you money, it’s suddenly 1890 again and you have to wait for the stagecoach to bring it in a strongbox.

Consumer advocates have been pressing companies to offer refunds with the same light-speed with which they process payments.

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:50:14am

re: #266 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

I really hope that some confused person has not risked a lengthy jail sentence just to try to harm Santos. He’ll be gone in a little over a year anyway. In the meantime, we can use him, and his apologists, as a national symbol of Republican depravity.

The punching down on Santos is getting tiresome.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:50:28am

War on Hanukkah

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:53:26am

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

“A London council has decided not to allow a chanukiah to be erected outside its town hall to commemorate the full eight days of Chanukah over fears it could inflame tensions between local communities.”

I have never understood the UK approach to minorities, religions and race relations. It is as if they are trying to stir things up so that they have an excuse to crack down on something in the name of Law and Order.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:55:42am

re: #247 Romantic Heretic

In my opinion, the purpose of modern education is not to create human beings suitable for citizenship but rather human resources suitable for employment.

The focus of higher education for the sake of learning has disappeared.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:56:27am

re: #248 BeenHereAwhile

My numero uno grocery store, Publix, is 2 miles from my house, and offers cash back at no charge.

Kroger, 1/4 mile away, does not. Wanna guess store I prefer?

I’ve never been in a grocery store that charges for cash back. Yikes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:58:27am

re: #263 lawhawk

The other thing going on is that conservatives, as the sharpest manifestation of the interests of capital, began to notice that college education provides people with a system for evaluating their own condition and articulating their ideals…which is exactly what you don’t want if your basic vision of society is hierarchical and requires multiple strata of workers that are exploited to a degree that depriving people of critical thinking skills is a plus.

Public education was good to the extent that it created literate, numerate workers at a time when industrialization and logistics meant there was an increasing demand for office workers—in other words, it was good because it devalued that kind of labor. For a bit, college was seen the same way—we need specialists and we need them comparatively cheap, and college means they pay for their own training—but the ideal of the “liberal arts education” began to be seen as an obstacle to that goal.

The project of destroying education wasn’t just material—the funding—but also destroying the entire cultural value of breadth and erudition. Conservatives, as always, invented a culture war to disguise their class war. And it worked really, really good: people are still using Nixonian jibes about student protesters, and the general “college kids are stupid and naive and unrealistic” is now taken as an axiom such that it’s alternative…that development of critical thinking is always going to create a crisis when it collides with the status quo (which does not make sense without heavy enculturation—what is made axiomatic through repetition and affiliation—and which must constantly invent other-ing explanations for contradictions between What Is and What Is Promised)…is simply never considered.

Indeed, this process has been so successful that the new conservative experiment—moral panic about K-12 schools as corrupting forces—follows almost exactly the same path, with a few updates for zeitgeist and the importation of a sizable quantity of lurid sexual speculation. Again, they’re hiding class warfare—a national structure in which the wealthy are subsidized enough to get to good schools and get connected into nepotism and patronage systems, while the poor are only subsidized enough to attend whatever is available—by creating an alternate power schema in which teachers are secret radicals intent upon manipulating their classrooms, and the backbone of conservative accusations are confessions: they want to obsess over the bodies and desires of children, they want to hard-lock children into lives of wage labor and keep them from having the tools to recognize when they’re exploited, they want to take public money and spend it on indoctrination.

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danarchy  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:58:56am

re: #248 BeenHereAwhile

My numero uno grocery store, Publix, is 2 miles from my house, and offers cash back at no charge.

Kroger, 1/4 mile away, does not. Wanna guess store I prefer?

Huh, I thought all grocery stores did this these days. Not that it is terribly relevant anymore, I have $70 in my wallet right now in cash, that is from $100 I got at an ATM almost a year ago.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2023 • 8:58:57am

Another ceasefire violation.

Mastodon

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:01:02am

re: #269 Hecuba’s daughter

And our involvement in the 1953 coup d’etat in Iran preceded Kissinger by a couple of decades. The world is still suffering from that decision. Kissinger was just following the policies of predecessors in the US government.

IIRC, in 1953 the US was supporting Britain’s policy in Iran. Not so much in Egypt after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal in 1956.

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Nojay UK  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:02:32am

re: #276 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I have never understood the UK approach to minorities, religions and race relations. It is as if they are trying to stir things up so that they have an excuse to crack down on something in the name of Law and Order.

Peelian Principles policing, basically. The key to policing in the UK is preventing a breach of the peace. Riot, murder, punch-ups at the pub, they’re all breaches of the peace and rather than engaging in free-fire zones and shooting everybody within range, British police try to keep the peace.

There are enough yahoos around in the UK (Tommy Robinson, say no more) fired up by the lurid press reporting from places elsewhere that erecting something like this Chanukiah could well lead to a breach of the peace. Once cars are burning in the streets and windows are getting smashed it’s a bit too late to say “perhaps we shouldn’t have done that.”

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:03:11am

re: #273 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Consumer advocates have been pressing companies to offer refunds with the same light-speed with which they process payments.

Just the way financial and business institutions exploit the speed of currency.

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:03:23am

re: #274 Shropshire Slasher

The punching down on Santos is getting tiresome.

Only because he’s already admitted, or proclaimed, actions that any normal political party, seeing that, would never have him on a ballot in the first place.

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nines09  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:04:21am

Keeping up with the shitty year motif, Shane MacGowan has passed.

He was quite ill for quite a while.

The Pogues Featuring Kirsty MacColl - Fairytale Of New York (Official Video)

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:04:59am

re: #278 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I’ve never been in a grocery store that charges for cash back. Yikes.

Coming soon due to mergers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:05:40am

It was Christmas Eve in the drunk tank
an old man said to me
“Won’t see another one”

It’s gonna be hard singing that song without choking up a bit on that line.

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Teukka  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:08:20am
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Teukka  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:08:35am
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Randall Gross  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:09:01am

For those addicted to the Kingkiller Chronicles from Rothfuss, the latest book in that universe is now out:

amazon.com

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Captain Magic  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:09:19am

re: #237 dat_said

Was this during the Snow White and the Seven Dwarves epoch or the IBM and the BUNCH epoch?

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BeenHereAwhile  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:12:01am

re: #288 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It was Christmas Eve in the drunk tank
an old man said to me
“Won’t see another one”

It’s gonna be hard singing that song without choking up a bit on that line.

(I had to look it up - now I got it)

Shane MacGowan:
It was Christmas Eve, babe, in the drunk tank
An old man said to me, “Won’t see another one”

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:15:39am

Mise en abyme strikes again:

This might actually be more shocking than anything shown onscreen on Squid Game: The Challenge, but players were so desperate for chapstick in the dorm that they ended up using lubricated condoms on their lips during filming.

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:16:47am

“I intend to enforce the gag orders rigorously and vigorously. I want to make sure that counsel informs their clients of the fact that the stay was vacated,” the judge said.

“A New York appeals court Thursday reinstated a gag order that barred Donald Trump from commenting about court personnel after he disparaged a law clerk in his New York civil fraud trial,” the AP reports.

“The one-sentence decision from a four-judge panel came two weeks after an individual appellate judge had put the order on hold while the appeals process played out.”

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A Cranky One  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:23:15am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:24:28am

re: #296 A Cranky One

That is funny.

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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:27:19am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:28:09am

re: #282 BeenHereAwhile

IIRC, in 1953 the US was supporting Britain’s policy in Iran. Not so much in Egypt after Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal in 1956.

Supporting the oil industry. Doesn’t matter if the policy originated with the UK — we didn’t need to help them out.

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sagehen  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:29:15am

re: #188 Belafon

“You know what we’re missing? A stock market crash. It’s almost 100 years since the last one.” - Conservative Supreme Court

um… not quite.

2008.
2020.

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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:29:46am

I knew it, I knew it!

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Shropshire Slasher  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:31:04am
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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:32:09am

Durbin just got subpoenas for Harlan Crow and Leonard Leo after GOPers out outwitted on the committee. They walked out, making the vote unanimous.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:35:43am

re: #285 wrenchwench

Only because he’s already admitted, or proclaimed, actions that any normal political party, seeing that, would never have him on a ballot in the first place.

People can run for a party even if the party doesn’t support them and opposes them. All you have to do is get enough signatures from residents in a community to be listed on the primary ballot and then win the primary election. Doesn’t require any endorsement from the official party. It’s not like the old days when the only candidates were those selected by an official party committee.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:40:01am

re: #280 danarchy

Huh, I thought all grocery stores did this these days. Not that it is terribly relevant anymore, I have $70 in my wallet right now in cash, that is from $100 I got at an ATM almost a year ago.

As far as I can tell around here, Kroger is the only one that does. I haven’t seen it at Walmart or Aldi’s, but I haven’t tried Tom Thumb.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:41:11am

re: #305 Belafon

My local Acme does not charge for cash back.

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sagehen  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:43:24am

re: #254 Decatur Deb

That can miscarry—born in a foundling home, 5 years Latin, one Ancient Greek.

How does a bastard, orphan, son of a whore and a
Scotsman, dropped in the middle of a forgotten
Spot in the Caribbean by providence, impoverished, in squalor
Grow up to be a hero and a scholar?

The ten-dollar Founding Father without a father
Got a lot farther by working a lot harder
By being a lot smarter
By being a self-starter

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dat_said  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:44:39am

CNBC: Americans are ‘doom spending’ — here’s why that’s a problem

Headline not from New York Times Pitchbot

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Dangerman  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:44:55am
“Tucker Carlson was quietly removed from the board of the media organization he co-founded in 2011—The Daily Caller—where he’d held a chair position for more than a decade,” the Daily Beast reports.

fired
and fired again

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:45:44am

re: #307 sagehen

Heh.
Roselia Foundling and Maternity Asylum
scsh.org

No one is going to out-Dickens me.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:46:12am

re: #289 Teukka

1- I have seen a series of pro-Hamas accounts spreading images where the released Israeli #hostages are perceived to be ‘happy’ and ‘thankful’ for their time in Gaza.

That’t right up there with slaves learning “valuable life skills”…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:47:39am

re: #300 sagehen

um… not quite.

2008.
2020.

Not a complete economy-killing one like 1929

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:49:00am

I think it’s worth repeating over and over that people will say nice things about Kissinger because he’s the bag man that created a modern American hegemony, and to maintain the story that our global success is a product of virtue—contrasted with the depravity of Communism—is dependent on never going into the details. Virtue must be located within him precisely because he created all that suffering: there must be an intent, a nobility, because the alternative is that many, many layers of state power (national, international) simply went along with terrible things that still materially mark the world.

If you believe there’s been a rules-based international order—hot take, there hasn’t—that defines modern international relations; if you believe that America is exceptional; if you believe that the Cold War was a moral and ideological struggle and not a thing fought through proxies, whose violence was mostly tagged not as war but counter-insurgency and policing actions, then Henry Kissinger must in some frame be moral and correct—in a modern media system it is impossible to make him exemplary, like a pharaoh on a wall in Qadesh, but a standard whig language of “controversial, flawed, let us consider the balance” has been developed to keep up with modern moralistic sentiment.

Revisionism and euphemism are necessary processes to maintain the justifying narrative: the past must reproduce the status quo of the present, the confounding and simply-awful components must be marked as exceptions and errors such that they are not further reflected on. Disavowal means that you can do a thing, perform contriteness, and stop thinking about it because the abstraction—that the system is defined by it’s concepts not it’s processes, what it materially does—is necessary to rule unjustly and be a democracy.

It’s not a new process. Colonial powers disavowed the Belgian Congo; and entire new language of ideals about just war were invented to disavow the Nazis even as colonial empires continued their process of stealing from and killing people.

And if all that seems strained or odd…consider how we talk about the Dulles Brothers as actors on the stage of history, because they’re the direct predecessor to Kissinger, and they’ve largely been forgotten. There aren’t many men who had more impact on the world in the Cold War but since most of their actions are skullduggery with high body counts and returns that amount “and that place stayed poor and rich people owned everything” in-depth discussion of their significance requires violation of the core American narrative of what we did and why after WW2. “Anti-communism” in the abstract does not explain what materially happened, so you have parse reality until it fits the needed story.

There’s a lesson in here, because ideas are not real and can instantly be transformed through semantics…when someone wants you to ignore What Is in favor of an idea that has no dimensions nor mass but substitutes for what Materially Is—ie the nation is it’s stated principles not the things it does—you should be at minimum skeptical.

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Vicious Babushka  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:51:05am

It’s a CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING you dumbshits.

Mastodon

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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:51:11am

re: #312 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not a complete economy-killing one like 1929

Perhaps it is not just the stock market crash, but how it is handled in financial policy that either keeps it going to the detriment of nearly all, or ends it as soon as possible without the disastrous long-term damage to everyone.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:52:37am

QAsshole flipping out in the courtroom…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:53:11am

re: #314 Vicious Babushka

It’s a CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING you dumbshits.

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Close enough.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:54:36am

re: #317 Decatur Deb

Close enough.

Rockerfellers are part of the ZOG cabal, you see…

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 30, 2023 • 9:56:29am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:02:08am

re: #318 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Rockerfellers are part of the ZOG cabal, you see…

If they adjusted their azimuth 3 blocks North, they’d have hit Kushner’s scam at 666 Fifth.

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retired cynic  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:02:11am

How Virtual Power Plants Can Accelerate Clean Energy Adoption
Here’s why climate and energy experts are excited about VPPs
distilled.earth

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:03:34am

Politeness has nothing to do with morality.

Mediating language about a powerful dead person to be respectful, when their life was built upon fundamental disrespect for the lives of others, is bullshit done not out of kindness for the dead but to make the powerful dead person signify nothing uncomfortable.

Because if it meant something that powerful people can be this way, can get away with things, can be praised and admired in a way that shows an infinite regress of conditional statements appended to those hard-coded values and morals that justify power, can fail and get a do-over even when that failure has a body count…

…then that power is not moral and cannot be justified by pointing to a document or pledge; but also that that power is not utilitarian in the way that it presents itself to be, but instead performs some other kind of utility that is simply left unsaid.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:04:14am

[This tweet may have been deleted.]

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:04:21am

re: #322 The Ghost of a Flea

Politeness has nothing to do with morality.

Just ask most any royal family…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:04:40am

Suggestion—don’t spit on a deputy sheriff…

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:09:36am
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lawhawk  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:10:37am

re: #326 Captain Ron

Attacks that are based on bulkshit - Loomer made claim that tweets from the wife disparaged Trump, when the wife doesn’t even have a twitter account.

But that wont stop Trump from inciting his extremist followers to violence against his enemies.

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Belafon  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:11:52am

re: #321 retired cynic

How Virtual Power Plants Can Accelerate Clean Energy Adoption
Here’s why climate and energy experts are excited about VPPs
distilled.earth

Sounds cool. Sounds very un-Texan.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:16:59am

The woman says she partook in a consensual threesome with Christian Ziegler and his wife, Bridget Ziegler, sources told journalists with the Florida Trident, the newspaper of the non-partisan Florida Center for Government Accountability.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:26:32am

FUTURE PSYCHIC.

One former leader did more directly address Kissinger’s moral legacy - the former British prime minister Tony Blair, whose invasion of Iraq in tandem with the US under George W Bush was supported by Kissinger. Blair said Kissinger left him “in awe”:

Of course, like anyone who has confronted the most difficult problems of international politics, he was criticized at times, even denounced. But I believe he was always motivated not from a coarse ‘realpolitik’, but from a genuine love of the free world and the need to protect it. He was a problem solver, whether in respect of the cold war, the Middle East or China and its rise.”

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Florida Panhandler  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:30:52am

re: #308 dat_said

CNBC/Republican/Trump “doom spending” when Democrat in the White House.

…”economic resiliency” when the default human condition/Republican rule is in charge.

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Captain Ron  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:33:07am
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IngisKahn  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:37:18am

re: #332 Captain Ron

That dolly is about to quit.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:40:48am

re: #332 Captain Ron

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Jesus that front wheel dolly is fighting for its life, look at how the wheels are canted and the frame is bowing LOL.

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IngisKahn  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:41:59am

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IngisKahn  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:44:46am

Ben Garrison style Kissinger send-off

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🐈 Crush White Nationalism 🐈  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:54:34am
MSNBC announced major changes to its weekend lineup on Thursday, canceling the Sunday show hosted by Mehdi Hasan and debuting an ensemble program that will air weekend mornings.

The changes, which will take effect Jan. 13, will alter almost every hour of the weekend, where MSNBC has struggled in the ratings for years through a series of lineup revamps.

The new show, The Weekend, is billed as a politics and Washington-focused program. It will be hosted from Washington D.C. by MSNBC anchors Alicia Menendez, Symone Sanders-Townsend and Michael Steele on Saturdays and Sundays from 8 to 10 a.m. ET. Both Sanders-Townsend and Menendez will be leaving their weekend programs to join the new show.

Another big change: MSNBC canceled The Mehdi Hasan Show, a Sunday night program hosted by the British-American journalist and commentator. He will be replaced by another hour of Ayman Mohyeldin’s show, which already airs for three hours on the weekend.

Hasan and Sanders-Townsend will also be retiring their shows on MSNBC streaming service Peacock. Hasan will remain at MSNBC as a political analyst and fill-in host.

MSNBC Cancels Mehdi Hasan’s Show, Debuts New Politics-Focused ‘Ensemble Program’ in Major Weekend Overhaul (Mediaite)

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wrenchwench  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:54:54am

re: #332 Captain Ron

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A video in a tweet will play here. A video in a quoted tweet is a link to twitter.

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Teukka  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:57:14am

re: #336 IngisKahn

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Ben Garrison style Kissinger send-off

AI really can generate nightmare fuel at times…

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Mike Lamb  Nov 30, 2023 • 10:59:37am

re: #291 Randall Gross

For those addicted to the Kingkiller Chronicles from Rothfuss, the latest book in that universe is now out:

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amazon.com

The trilogy is never getting finished. And it is big time aggravating he keeps doing side projects and letting the main story languish.


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