1 | Sharmuta Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:25:56pm |
Fezzig? Are there rocks ahead?
If there are, we all be dead.
2 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:26:45pm |
Rocky shore in that picture.
Watch your step!
4 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:27:33pm |
6 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:30:01pm |
7 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:33:26pm |
Jeez...can't help but think about Samoa right now. IIRC, Pago Pago on American Samoa would be shielded from any tsunamis by the mountainous interior, but I haven't heard any assesment of the Damages from Western Samoa or American Samoa.
/Has actually set foot in Pago Pago.
8 | Lawrior Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:34:21pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
No more rhyming! I MEAN IT!
Anybody want a peanut?
9 | fat.elvis Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:36:04pm |
Here comes science... BOO! [Link: www.allmusic.com...]
But why is there a man next to the dinosaur? Have TMBG been going to creationist museums?
10 | Sharmuta Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:37:28pm |
re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth
That Vizzini, he can *fuss*.
Fuss, fuss... I think he like to scream at *us*.
And you were so slobbering drunk you couldn't buy brandy!
11 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:39:47pm |
re: #10 Sharmuta
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
13 | Lawrior Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:41:57pm |
re: #11 Slumbering Behemoth
Acid King YES! Have I mentioned that I love the Melvins?
And, have you heard about Shrinebuilder?
brain = explode
14 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:42:08pm |
re: #7 Fenway_Nation
Damn dude, I almost didn't recognize you with that new makeover. Warn a Lizard, will ya.
/
15 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:42:35pm |
A fun definition,,,
FLAG CASE: (The last line must be said while snapping to attention and saluting...) Flag Case: n. A person who is so sexually repellant that the only way one could conceive of having sex with them, would be in the event of nuclear holocaust or similar catastrophe, and them being the only fertile mate availible, one would wrap them in the flag and "Do it for America!"
16 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:44:14pm |
Oh...this comes as a complete shock.
Pervy child-predator director demands release of arrested pervy child-predator director.
Wonder if Victor Silva was able to sign the petition.
17 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:53:22pm |
re: #13 Lawrior
Not heard of Shrinebuilder, and there is something wonky going on that keeps me from playing that song there.
How's about some Peruvian Doom?
The recording ain't so great, but you can get the idea.
18 | I Need A Bigger Gun Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:53:58pm |
Later tonight (Wednesday), the Empire State Building will be lit up in red and yellow to recognize the "birthday" of Communist China. Are you fucking kidding me?
19 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:54:32pm |
re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh...that? It's my new side project for when I'm not working on Fenway & The Behemoth- Extreme Avatar Makeover!
/Thought the B&M Railway logo was a tad appropriate since the last week has been more or less a trainwreck for the Red Sox.
21 | Mocking Jay Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:57:01pm |
re: #16 Fenway_Nation
Oh...this comes as a complete shock.
Pervy child-predator director demands release of arrested pervy child-predator director.
Wonder if Victor Silva was able to sign the petition.
Is Hollywood so tight-knit that not signing it could be a black mark? I'm not defending this at all, just wondering if it's a simple case of people lacking balls. I'm having a really hard time understanding why people are sticking up for this guy.
22 | Kronocide Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:57:26pm |
re: #18 I Need A Bigger Gun
Down Ding on the wonderful idea.
24 | Fenway_Nation Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:57:37pm |
25 | Lawrior Tue, Sep 29, 2009 11:59:09pm |
re: #17 Slumbering Behemoth
I like that.
Empire State Building will be red tomorrow. If you remind me tomorrow, I'll take a picture to prove it.
Ok, I need to get to sleep, as tomorrow is another big day of trying to make sense of our tax code. Goodnight, lizards.
27 | I Need A Bigger Gun Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:00:21am |
re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth
Saw it on Greta van Lockjaw's show tonight.
28 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:00:26am |
29 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:03:15am |
re: #18 I Need A Bigger Gun
Later tonight (Wednesday), the Empire State Building will be lit up in red and yellow to recognize the "birthday" of Communist China. Are you fucking kidding me?
Technically we are not enemies, in fact, we are major trading partners.
30 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:03:39am |
re: #19 Fenway_Nation
Fenway & The Behemoth- Extreme Avatar Makeover!
Two gallons of tequila, two cartons of non-filters, a beat up truck held together with duct tape and sheer, spiteful will, and two crazy Lizards hell bent on fucking shit up!
Forget your daughters, hide your hookers! Your avatar will never be the same.
31 | freetoken Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:06:53am |
re: #29 Bagua
Technically we are not enemies, in fact, we are major trading partners.
Indeed, our trading relationship is a cornerstone in the world economy.
32 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:08:51am |
A love letter to Anne Coulter...
[Link: worshiptheglitch.com...]
33 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:10:14am |
re: #25 Lawrior
fuck
I get diplomatic relations and what not, but why? What point is there in lighting up an iconic American building to commemorate the founding of a communist nation. What color will it be lit up to commemorate the Cuban Communist Revolution?
Who or what is behind this? Does the owner have some lucrative business connection in China that he/she wants to flatter?
34 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:10:22am |
re: #30 Slumbering Behemoth
Your avatar will never be the same.
My avatar reveals all change, yet it is always the same.
35 | I Need A Bigger Gun Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:11:16am |
re: #29 Bagua
Technically we are not enemies, in fact, we are major trading partners.
I don't really care that they are a trading partner of ours. The ChiComs are still our enemies.
36 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:14:34am |
And it doesn't fucking matter. You do NOT light up one of the beacons of our whole country in commemoration of one of the most brutal countries/regimes in history.
37 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:18:01am |
re: #35 I Need A Bigger Gun
re: #36 TheMatrix31
Now now...it's not so bad if you're willing to overlook Mao's bloody rise to power and subsequent purges, The Cultural Revolution, the Tianamen Square Massacre and the ongoing crackdowns against the Uighurs or Falun Gong practitioners...///
And if you don't overlook it, the MSM, government and multinational corporations will.
38 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:18:07am |
re: #36 TheMatrix31
And it doesn't fucking matter. You do NOT light up one of the beacons of our whole country in commemoration of one of the most brutal countries/regimes in history.
Sooo... are you suggesting that it should become government property? Because you know it's privately owned and they can do whatever the hell they want with it, right?
39 | freetoken Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:19:31am |
Since y'all seem interested in China, put up a spin-off link on China and Nigeria. Seems like a Chinese company is negotiating to buy 1/6 of Nigeria's oil reserves.
40 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:20:08am |
re: #35 I Need A Bigger Gun
I don't really care that they are a trading partner of ours. The ChiComs are still our enemies.
When was the last time The U.S. and China openly traded rounds? Competitors on the world market, surely. Enemies? Not at the moment. Former allies? Yes.
re: #36 TheMatrix31
And it doesn't fucking matter. You do NOT light up one of the beacons of our whole country in commemoration of one of the most brutal countries/regimes in history.
Most brutal? All hyperbole aside, I am not at all enthusiastic about the owner(s) of the Empire State Building commemorating the formation of any communist state. It just doesn't seem right.
41 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:20:37am |
42 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:21:09am |
re: #18 I Need A Bigger Gun
Later tonight (Wednesday), the Empire State Building will be lit up in red and yellow to recognize the "birthday" of Communist China. Are you fucking kidding me?
Dear God. Links, please!
43 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:22:35am |
re: #36 TheMatrix31
And it doesn't fucking matter. You do NOT light up one of the beacons of our whole country in commemoration of one of the most brutal countries/regimes in history.
The building is now a light house? I think you have it confused with something else. It's just a tall building, the Chinese are a friendly nation.
44 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:23:47am |
45 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:23:47am |
re: #38 JasonA
Sooo... are you suggesting that it should become government property? Because you know it's privately owned and they can do whatever the hell they want with it, right?
No, but I expect more of the owners of that property.
re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth
They were/are pretty fuckin' brutal.
46 | freetoken Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:23:55am |
BTW, I'm surprised there is so much commotion over the Empire State building thing... the news came out a few days ago and it didn't generate much heat.
And, back to Africa:
Nigerian author Uwem Akpan, who is a Jesuit priest, said he was “humbled” that his debut collection of short stories was chosen by influential U.S. talk show host Oprah Winfrey for her book club.
[...]
“Don’t forget that Jesus was a priest and a poet.”
[...]
Hmmm... I don't remember reading that in the Bible... need to ask SJ next time he is online.
47 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:24:06am |
re: #43 Bagua
They light it up for a whole bunch of shit.
48 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:24:21am |
I'm sure Malkin and Beck will get right on this outrage.
49 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:24:47am |
50 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:26:31am |
re: #44 Fenway_Nation
Unless you're a Tibetan or Uighur.
The Chinese may counter that the Indians and the Africans have had a less than joyous history with friendly America, need I continue?
51 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:27:00am |
re: #48 Bagua
I don't care what they do. I couldn't give a SHIT less actually.
I don't like buildings in my country being lit up in colors supporting the Eid and Communist regimes, and that's all I know or care to say about it.
52 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:27:59am |
53 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:28:07am |
re: #50 Bagua
You're talking history, I'm talking current events.
55 | I Need A Bigger Gun Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:30:22am |
re: #40 Slumbering Behemoth
Well let's see...as I recall, the last time we traded rounds with the ChiComs was during the Korean War. That doesn't mean we aren't enemies, in one sense or another. How many times did we trade rounds with the Russians during the Cold War? Never directly. But does that mean the Russians weren't our enemies then?
56 | checked08 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:31:07am |
here's a good late night read:
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
SPOILER:nothing to do with oceans, china, or oprah
57 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:32:00am |
58 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:35:49am |
59 | Sharmuta Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:36:09am |
re: #46 freetoken
SpaceJesus is such an amazing poet that you don't even realize you're reading poetry. Yeah... He's that good.
60 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:36:31am |
re: #54 Bagua
Don't know what Diwali is. Christmas is okay. I mean, yeah for normal religious people, Christmas is actually religious, but there's also the non-religious, commercial mystique that incorporates the green/red, so lighting it up in those colors is fine.
61 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:37:01am |
re: #45 TheMatrix31
They were/are pretty fuckin' brutal.
No argument there, but there have been many worse. Please do not mistake this as an apologia nor a defense.
As others have stated, the building is private property, they can light it up for whatever they want. I don't like it. I don't think it's appropriate to favorably commemorate the founding of any communist state, but I guess that is their right.
I don't like it, but I'm not going to lose my shit over it.
64 | victor_yugo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:40:20am |
At this late hour of the night, I just had a profound realization.
I just read a refresher on "Under the Tuscan Sun." (I can't yet figure out why I like Diane Lane, knowing that she's married to Josh Brolin. *yuck*) It's about a writer who re-finds herself after impulsively buying a fixer-upper in a place she knows nothing about. Once word gets out that she knows how to prepare a small feast, people start helping her to get the house in order...
This cinnamon sweetbread I've been making has gotten nothing but rave reviews.
I CAN GET HELP WITH (just about) ANYTHING, WITH A LOAF OR TWO.
...anything but rent, utilities, or taxes...
Although, if it's car trouble, a 12-pack of beer might be a better idea. Ah, what the heck, a 12-pack plus a loaf of cinnamon bread.
65 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:40:55am |
re: #56 checked08
here's a good late night read:
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
SPOILER:nothing to do with oceans, china, or oprah
From that article:
Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars.
We build nations? No, this would be the prelude to "Civil War: the Sequel."
66 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:41:15am |
re: #61 Slumbering Behemoth
No argument there, but there have been many worse. Please do not mistake this as an apologia nor a defense.
As others have stated, the building is private property, they can light it up for whatever they want. I don't like it. I don't think it's appropriate to favorably commemorate the founding of any communist state, but I guess that is their right.
I don't like it, but I'm not going to lose my shit over it.
Of course not. I'm not losing my shit over it either, it's just wrong and annoying.
67 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:42:40am |
re: #62 Bagua
Eid is a religious one though, and a major part of a religion that has really disgusting extremists which perpetrated mass murder just a few miles away from the ESB.
I don't think it has a commercial non-religious aspect to it, lol.
Either way, whatever.
68 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:43:27am |
re: #56 checked08
here's a good late night read:
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
SPOILER:nothing to do with oceans, china, or oprah
...do we really want to be associated with advertising a coup attempt? Come on, san checks, people.
69 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:45:09am |
re: #55 I Need A Bigger Gun
Is Germany, Italy, or Japan still our enemy now?
Everyone knew what was going in Korea, but both sides pretended not to know in order to prevent further escalation. We were also fighting Russians in Korea, and pretended not to know for the same reason.
I asked, when was the last time we openly exchanged rounds with China.
Things change. China was once a staunch ally of the U.S., that changed. They secretly fought against us for a time. That changed. China's gov't was devoted to a communist economy. That is changing. Perhaps not fast enough for my tastes, but it is happening.
70 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:45:56am |
Shit...looks like I was wrong about Pago Pago.
71 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:46:52am |
re: #63 Fenway_Nation
And what are the Eid 'colors'?
In Turkey they use red and white, for both the national holidays and religious. The Eiffel Tower for example was lit red and white with a crescent and star to honour Turkey.
72 | victor_yugo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:47:57am |
re: #56 checked08
From your link:
Officers swear to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Unlike enlisted personnel, they do not swear to “obey the orders of the president of the United States.”
The oath of the enlisted does not expire with the commission.
Fail on point 1, fail entirely.
73 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:48:53am |
re: #66 TheMatrix31
Of course not. I'm not losing my shit over it either, it's just wrong and annoying.
Sorry Lizard, it was not my intent to imply that you were losing your shit over it. I made a general statement that was not meant to apply to you directly.
74 | victor_yugo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:49:20am |
re: #70 Fenway_Nation
Shit...looks like I was wrong about Pago Pago.
You're not the only one. I also heard the forecasts, and the ensuing reality. Don't feel bad about it.
75 | checked08 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:49:41am |
re: #68 davinvalkri
but perry isnt advertising or advocating
America isn’t the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn’t mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it.
see? wrote a disclaimer and everything
76 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:51:21am |
re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth
Is Germany, Italy, or Japan still our enemy now?
Apparently some enemies are never to be made peace with. I posted a video that explains the idea above.
77 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:51:43am |
re: #75 checked08
but perry isnt advertising or advocating
see? wrote a disclaimer and everything
All the same, what makes the American democracy so interesting is that nobody even considers a coup if their interests lose the election. That's been going on since 1796. The very idea that a respected newspaper columnist should want to discuss the possibility of a coup during one presidency is a bit disquieting.
78 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:52:30am |
re: #71 Bagua
You answered the question I never asked about Turkey, but not the one about the 'colors' of Eid...
Are there any 'official' colors for Eid?
79 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:54:25am |
Well good evening, Lizardia. It's morning over here in sunny Tzefat.
The only disadvantage of this great vacation is that I'm 10 hours ahead of LA, which means that for most of the day I get the overnight thread, and the first post of the day shows up here at about 7 or 8 PM.
80 | I Need A Bigger Gun Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:55:51am |
re: #69 Slumbering Behemoth
Well, we rebuilt Germany and Japan (and to a lesser extent, Italy). And even if we hadn't, none of them have the economic leverage, or the military might, to threaten us. On the other hand, the ChiComs do. Okay, things do change. But I still don't trust them.
81 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:56:03am |
82 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:56:13am |
re: #32 LudwigVanQuixote
I love that one. In small doses, I can like Henry.
83 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:56:33am |
85 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:57:41am |
86 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:58:00am |
re: #78 Fenway_Nation
You answered the question I never asked about Turkey, but not the one about the 'colors' of Eid...
Are there any 'official' colors for Eid?
The "Prophet's" favorite color was green. Infidels are not allowed to wear green. When the Ottomans occupied Palestine, they attacked non-Muslims who dared to wear green.
If the number of Muslims in Ireland increases, you will see some serious seething on St. Patrick's Day.
87 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:58:51am |
re: #78 Fenway_Nation
You answered the question I never asked about Turkey, but not the one about the 'colors' of Eid...
Are there any 'official' colors for Eid?
Red and White, lights and fireworks are used in Turkey to celebrate Eid, that answered your question.
88 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 12:59:21am |
re: #78 Fenway_Nation
You answered the question I never asked about Turkey, but not the one about the 'colors' of Eid...
Are there any 'official' colors for Eid?
As you might imagine, Malkin and Company were tearing their hair out over this when it started.
89 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:00:13am |
re: #85 Fenway_Nation
Yup. I thought I'd stop being such a "default" brown shoe and add a little color to my profile. Looks like yours changed, too. I like that one.
90 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:00:50am |
re: #88 SixDegrees
I didn't like it either, and I'm no Malkin/Beck/whoeveryouwant supporter.
91 | I Need A Bigger Gun Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:01:24am |
So, does it make me a bad person because I don't trust the ChiComs or the Russians? Just wonderin'...
92 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:02:11am |
About the Empire State Building...
This really is a madeup controversy. They light it up for everything, and I do mean everything. Here's a partial list from last year of some of the lighting changes and what they commemorate:
8/29/2008 - 09/01/2008 Blue/White/Blue Muscular Dystrophy Association, Jerry Lewis MDA National Labor Day Telethon
09/02/2008 - 09/04/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
09/05/2008 - 09/07/2008 Yellow/Yellow/Yellow United States Tennis Association, Finals Weekend
09/08/2008 - 09/09/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
09/10/2008 Pink/Pink/White Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation, City in Pink
09/11/2008 Red/White/Blue In Memory of September 11
09/12/2008 - 09/18/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
09/19/2008 - 09/21/2008 Yellow/Red/Black 51st Annual Steuben Day Parade
09/22/2008 - 09/29/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
09/30/2008 - 10/01/2008 Green/Green/Green Eid-al-Fitr
10/02/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
10/03/2008 - 10/05/2008 Blue/Blue/White Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, Walk to Cure Diabetes
10/06/2008 - 10/09/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
10/10/2008 - 10/13/2008 Red/White/Green Columbus Day
10/14/2008 - 10/15/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
10/16/2008 Yellow/Yellow/Yellow Afterschool Alliance, Lights on Afterschool
10/17/2008 - 10/19/2008 Purple/Orange/White Cat Fanciers' Association, CFA-Iams Cat Championships
10/20/2008 Orange/Orange/White Food Bank NYC, NYC Goes Orange
10/21/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
10/22/2008 Purple/Red/Red Gabrielle's Angel Foundation, Gabrielle's Gala
10/23/2008 White/White/White ESB Lighting
10/24/2008 - 10/26/2008 Purple/Purple/White Alzheimer's Association, Memory Walk
93 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:02:42am |
re: #89 theheat
Yup. I thought I'd stop being such a "default" brown shoe and add a little color to my profile. Looks like yours changed, too. I like that one.
Shhh...it's an image of a white guy brandishing a firearm. Don't call DHS!!//
94 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:02:42am |
re: #91 I Need A Bigger Gun
So, does it make me a bad person because I don't trust the ChiComs or the Russians? Just wonderin'...
Hey, relax, man, I wish China had been handed to Hong Kong instead of the other way around, and I'm ethnically part-Chinese (though it doesn't really matter). You're fine.
95 | victor_yugo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:04:04am |
re: #86 Alouette
If the number of Muslims in Ireland increases, you will see some serious seething on St. Patrick's Day.
God help any heretic who dares challenge the right to wear green on the Feast of Naomh Pádraig.
And God help LFG.
96 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:04:14am |
re: #92 iceweasel
I want to see it lit up in something black and silver to commemorate the April 1933 release of King Kong. A film classic, and still one of the best horror shows of all time.
97 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:06:00am |
re: #96 theheat
I want to see it lit up in something black and silver to commemorate the April 1933 release of King Kong. A film classic, and still one of the best horror shows of all time.
Now THAT would be cool!
98 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:06:28am |
re: #93 Fenway_Nation
My lips are sealed. No one will know about the beast that lives in your belly.
99 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:06:30am |
re: #78 Fenway_Nation
You answered the question I never asked about Turkey, but not the one about the 'colors' of Eid...
Are there any 'official' colors for Eid?
Taking about general colour combinations I must say that the white colours can be use with any of the dark colours and black can be used with any of the light colours. Other than these the colour combination of every dark colour with its light shades also gives a pretty look. Except these, combination of red and black is also very popular, especially in winter season while in summer it is not advisable to choose the combination of red and black.
Some other popular colour combinations are:* Orange and black
* yellow and red
* white and black
* turquoise and pink
* forest green and pink
* yellow and cream
* Dark blue and white
* Dark blue and white
* Maroon and white
* Maroon and yellow
* For tops liquid metallic colours are always in
* Purple and yellow
* Except these combination of forest green and red is also very nice.
It appear the colours adapt and change.
100 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:07:01am |
re: #80 I Need A Bigger Gun
But I still don't trust them.
Not saying you should. I don't. But they are not our enemies. They aren't our allies either. We are trading partners, however. This builds a mutual interest, which may lead to better things for both our nations, and better relations.
Pick up what Penn puts down here.
101 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:07:11am |
re: #92 iceweasel
Apparently they do light it up for just about anything.
Quick quiz: Which one of these organizations is directly responsible for the deaths of millions?
A) The US Tennis Association
B) The Cat Fancier's Association
C) The Alzheimers Association Memory Walk
D) The Communist Party of China
102 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:08:47am |
re: #97 iceweasel
I did a poster of that as a project about a million years ago as a tribute to the Deco movement. Came out ubercool.
103 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:09:31am |
re: #99 Bagua
It's what keeps the Arabic-language greeting card industry afloat, apparently.
104 | victor_yugo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:10:03am |
re: #101 Fenway_Nation
Apparently they do light it up for just about anything.
Quick quiz: Which one of these organizations is directly responsible for the deaths of millions?
A) The US Tennis Association
B) The Cat Fancier's Association
C) The Alzheimers Association Memory Walk
D) The Communist Party of China
A: The US Tennis Ass'n.
Check here for one example.
105 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:10:10am |
re: #92 iceweasel
It's just something that's annoying along the lines of Google's stupid banners yet not putting things up for Sept 11, July 4, Vets Day, Memorial Day, etc.
106 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:10:12am |
re: #95 victor_yugo
God help any heretic who dares challenge the right to wear green on the Feast of Naomh Pádraig.
And God help LGF.
Is that what you meant?
107 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:11:10am |
re: #90 TheMatrix31
I didn't like it either, and I'm no Malkin/Beck/whoeveryouwant supporter.
Then you must not approve when they light it up for Easter or Christmas or Hannukah, either.
Here's a whole list of lighting events to get outraged over, a veritable cornucopia of outrage. Just passed - the Wizard of Oz 70th Anniversary commemoration. A film that celebrates a wizard. Which is a kind of witch. Which makes this a celebration of Satanism! Want more proof? Look what color they lit the building up in!! They're devil worshippers! Commie lovers! And they lit it up in pink once, so they're probably promoting gays, too!
Those evil bastards!
/
108 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:11:33am |
re: #95 victor_yugo
Never mind St. Patrick's Day- could you imagine the reaction if some terrorists had designs on St. James Gate?
109 | davinvalkri Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:11:53am |
re: #105 TheMatrix31
It's just something that's annoying along the lines of Google's stupid banners yet not putting things up for Sept 11, July 4, Vets Day, Memorial Day, etc.
Yeah, that's about where I stand to. Nothing to get really worked up for, but...you know...in another world...maybe...
111 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:12:23am |
re: #91 I Need A Bigger Gun
So, does it make me a bad person because I don't trust the ChiComs or the Russians? Just wonderin'...
Of course not. Not in my estimation. But please don't become a victim of hyperbole.
112 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:13:02am |
re: #101 Fenway_Nation
Apparently they do light it up for just about anything.
Quick quiz: Which one of these organizations is directly responsible for the deaths of millions?
A) The US Tennis Association
B) The Cat Fancier's Association
C) The Alzheimers Association Memory Walk
D) The Communist Party of China
China. like it or not, is one of our allies. It's also a major world historical event that's being commemorated.
Islam, like it or not, is one of the major world religions.
I don't have an issue with this. If people are upset over the commemoration of China, I suggest they pour that energy into political activism demanding that the Obama admin recognise China's human rights abuses-- rather than being angry about the colour of the lights on the ESB.
One is a worthy political endeavour; the other is a Faux News--Malkin--Beck style bullshit freakout of the day.
113 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:13:22am |
re: #91 I Need A Bigger Gun
So, does it make me a bad person because I don't trust the ChiComs or the Russians? Just wonderin'...
Now it is distrust, above they were "the enemy," and you were objecting to some minor public gesture. Now you feel questioning this implies you are "a bad person."
I posted a video of my impression already.
114 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:15:15am |
re: #112 iceweasel
One is a worthy political endeavour; the other is a Faux News--Malkin--Beck style bullshit freakout of the day.
I really hope that's not the retort every single time someone's pissed about something over the next few years. It got really annoying when people kept randomly throwing in Bill O'Reilly references as putdowns during my support for things during the last administration...
115 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:17:08am |
re: #114 TheMatrix31
Ya Iceweasal, Stop boxing us in with your logic.
116 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:17:27am |
re: #114 TheMatrix31
I really hope that's not the retort every single time someone's pissed about something over the next few years. It got really annoying when people kept randomly throwing in Bill O'Reilly references as putdowns during my support for things during the last administration...
It's not a putdown at all. I'm recommending ways to channel anger into political activism that can have an impact, rather than causing one to drown in a rising tide of frothy indignation.
I pointed the same sort of things out to 'teh left' too, from 2000 onwards, btw.
117 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:18:06am |
OMG - they not only light it up for Hannukah, but also had a special Salute to Israel display back in May!
Those bastards! Celebrating the Jooos! What must the Palestinians think of such an insult?
118 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:19:00am |
re: #115 Bagua
Ya Iceweasal, Stop boxing us in with your logic.
Heh. Hi Bagua. You seem in rare form today! I've favourited that vid, btw. I suspect it will come in handy.
What's been happening here? Any notable flounces, meltdowns, etc?
119 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:19:03am |
re: #117 SixDegrees
What must the Palestinians think of such an insult?
Ooops..what's this? My giveadamn is in the shop.
120 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:19:39am |
121 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:19:53am |
Oh God, here comes the sarcasm. Come on, guys.
122 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:23:05am |
re: #118 iceweasel
Heh. Hi Bagua. You seem in rare form today! I've favourited that vid, btw. I suspect it will come in handy.
What's been happening here? Any notable flounces, meltdowns, etc?
So far just the "frothy indignation" but give it time, as they say,
Rome wasn't destroyed in a day.
123 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:25:13am |
Gotta wonder how different the world would've been if 50 years ago it was Mao saying something along the lines of 'To get rich is glorious' or 'No matter if it is a white cat or a black cat; as long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat'...
Y'know...instead of muddling through the invasion of Tibet, Cultural Revolution, Tianamen Square Massacre etc etc...to come to conclusions along those lines.
124 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:29:35am |
Oh joy...looks like 0bama's State Department is finally ratcheting up the tough rhetoric in the Middle East:
125 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:34:10am |
re: #121 TheMatrix31
Oh God, here comes the sarcasm. Come on, guys.
I don't mean you when I'm talking about frothy indignation. Just the usual suspects who merchandise it. Be cool, Matrix!
126 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:35:04am |
127 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:37:39am |
re: #126 Bagua
Probably using the same template for Earth Day or St. Patrick's Day.
128 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:42:00am |
re: #127 Fenway_Nation
Probably using the same template for Earth Day or St. Patrick's Day.
Yes, the lighting fixtures were made in China as well, so there is something here to froth up over for all.
129 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:44:28am |
Jesus Christ. Did people see this yesterday? NewsMax columnist calling for a military coup to "solve the Obama problem?"
130 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:48:48am |
There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it.
[...]
Will the day come when patriotic general and flag officers sit down with the president, or with those who control him, and work out the national equivalent of a "family intervention," with some form of limited, shared responsibility?
Imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation. Skilled, military-trained, nation-builders would replace accountability-challenged, radical-left commissars. Having bonded with his twin teleprompters, the president would be detailed for ceremonial speech-making.
Military intervention is what Obama's exponentially accelerating agenda for "fundamental change" toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option, but Obama's radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
Freeper reaction:
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
131 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:48:51am |
re: #92 iceweasel
About the Empire State Building...
This really is a madeup controversy. They light it up for everything, and I do mean everything. Here's a partial list from last year of some of the lighting changes and what they commemorate:
Will they light it up for my grandson's bris? Or do they only light up for a bunch of money?
132 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:51:50am |
re: #130 iceweasel
Did you also know Obama is an enemy of humanity? Of course this requires military intervention.
//
133 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:52:57am |
re: #130 iceweasel
Wow...those people are fucking stupid.
134 | freetoken Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:56:00am |
Newsmax, like American Thinker, has become home to those who otherwise couldn't get published for one or another good reason.
Now Newsmax righter calling for coup... it figures.
135 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:57:00am |
136 | Fenway_Nation Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:58:12am |
re: #131 Alouette
Are you still in the Holy Land, Alouette?
137 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 1:59:45am |
re: #133 TheMatrix31
Wow...those people are fucking stupid.
No, it's worse...
John L. Perry, a prize-winning newspaper editor and writer who served on White House staffs of two presidents, is a regular columnist for Newsmax.com.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]
138 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:02:30am |
Ever see one of those times that a nic and a post meshed just perfectly?...
re: #18 I Need A Bigger Gun
Later tonight (Wednesday), the Empire State Building will be lit up in red and yellow to recognize the "birthday" of Communist China. Are you fucking kidding me?
Oh yeah.
139 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:04:07am |
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
re: #132 theheat
Did you also know Obama is an enemy of humanity? Of course this requires military intervention.
//
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
140 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:05:48am |
re: #139 Bagua
AND he's a nirther!
"A president that has lost his way that badly, that has no ability to see the image of God in these little fellow human beings, if he can't do that right, then he has no place in any station of government and we need to realize that he is an enemy of humanity," Franks said.
Franks' speech was recorded by the liberal group People for the American Way.
In an interview with the Washington Independent after the speech, Franks also renewed a call for Obama to produce a copy of his birth certificate to end the questions by "birthers" who doubt the president's birthplace. Franks said he had once considered filing a lawsuit to get it, but did his own investigation and became convinced that the president was born in the United States.
Haley called the controversy a "silly debate" and said it is "ridiculous that the president doesn't just produce [the birth certificate] and make it go away." In the interview, Franks implied that the president might be trying to hide something else.
"Probably, Barack Obama could solve this problem and make the birthers, you know, back off, by simply showing us his long-form birth certificate," Franks said. "That'd solve the problem. There's some other issue, I don't know what it is, that he doesn't want people to see the birth certificate on."
141 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:06:51am |
re: #132 theheat
Did you also know Obama is an enemy of humanity? Of course this requires military intervention.
//
Fine. But is he an Enemy of Reality?
142 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:06:57am |
re: #131 Alouette
Will they light it up for my grandson's bris? Or do they only light up for a bunch of money?
They'll light it when they get enough requests, even without money. Maybe we can all write in for you! :)
Mazel tov, btw!
143 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:11:02am |
144 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:19:53am |
re: #143 theheat
That is some unappealing music.
Says you. I'm getting "old", and I still dig the fuck out of hardcore metal.
Meh. To each their own.
145 | Bagua Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:20:33am |
The Moving Finger writes, and having writ,
Moves on: nor all your Piety nor Wit
Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
Nor all your tears wash out a Word of it.-Omar Khayyam
146 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:27:24am |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
Hey, go with it. There are a lot of people that like that type of music, my son included. He listens to stuff I honestly think is painful.
Just don't tell me you have a mullet and drive a Camaro ;-)
147 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:28:41am |
148 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:30:40am |
re: #146 theheat
Just don't tell me you have a mullet and drive a Camaro ;-)
WHAT!?! You need to go way back to David Lee Roth's Van Halen for that kind of thing.
And just what the hell is wrong with GM cars!?!
/fake indignation
149 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:34:48am |
150 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:39:34am |
When I took "Driver's Ed" in high school... the "Student Driver" car was a Camaro.
Yeah. I took driver's ed in a Camaro.
152 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:47:50am |
re: #151 Slumbering Behemoth
My son is a (serious) guitarist. Plays in a super heavy metal thrash band (I paid for classical guitar lessons, the little son of a bitch!) anyhoo...
Bunch of upper middle class kids singing angry. I asked him once, "What are you guys so angry about?"
He said, "I know. Right?"
153 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:52:56am |
re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth
Hey, I used to have a vintage Camaro. And I saw DLR live back when he still had hair and wore assless chaps. I'm a dinosaur.
154 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:54:23am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just hope they don't sing "blame the parents" songs and embarrass you. Did you son get tattoos, too?
155 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:54:31am |
156 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:56:16am |
re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked them both. Sammy was the more versatile lead singer, of the two. But nobody can replace Diamond Dave in his heyday as the most outrageous front man.
157 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:57:14am |
re: #154 theheat
Just hope they don't sing "blame the parents" songs and embarrass you. Did you son get tattoos, too?
Oh, only all over.
158 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:59:19am |
re: #157 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I feel your pain. Mine started with one, then got another on the other arm, and so on. Great looking kid - tall and looks like a model - and he decides to get ink all over himself. Mr.Heat knew before I did, and didn't want to tell me, because he knew I'd stroke out. Ugh.
159 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:00:24am |
re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It's the thing. You can't do punk/thrash without anger. If you haven't got a real reason, you need to make one up. Extra points to your son for seeing through the bullshit.
160 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:02:17am |
re: #154 theheat
Let's see...
The word "EQUALITY" (each letter formed from an animal) across the abdomen.
Some face on his right pec.
His grandmother (High school picture) on his upper left arm. His grandfather (firing a bazooka from his army days) right below her.
Ankle to knee on Right leg, Dali-esque images...
And his back he has a tattoo of ... I DON'T KNOW! I REFUSE TO LOOK ANYMORE!
But, at least he has the sense to not have a single tattoo that is visible if he puts on a long sleeve shirt and a pair of pants. He does that? I kill him.
161 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:04:29am |
Bounce, not flounce.
Later Lizards.
162 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:04:54am |
re: #156 theheat
I liked them both. Sammy was the more versatile lead singer, of the two. But nobody can replace Diamond Dave in his heyday as the most outrageous front man.
I'll just jump right in here with this link.
163 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:05:40am |
re: #159 Slumbering Behemoth
College graduate, European History Major. He is with a bunch of upper middle class kids who are actually angry, and he laughs right in their faces about it.
But, he is pretty well known around the state from the musicians of his style.
He's a grounded bastard, that's for sure.
164 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:07:15am |
re: #162 MandyManners
Mandy! How you doin'? How's the Kid?
165 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:08:47am |
re: #160 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But, at least he has the sense to not have a single tattoo that is visible if he puts on a long sleeve shirt and a pair of pants. He does that? I kill him.
Ah. Mine did the same thing. Where he works they aren't supposed to have any tattoos that show with a long sleeved shirt.
We went out for dinner one night, and he rolled up his sleeves to show me the latest ink, and I about puked. I told him the least he could do is get one that says MOM, but he rolled his eyes and started laughing. Perish the thought! His are some weird symbolic thing I don't get - something to do with Black Label Society, plus some other crap. He said he designed them himself, and thought I'd be proud, since my day job is in the art world., which he enjoys mocking at every opportunity.
Can't say I was proud. I thought it was all pretty dreadful. I could have designed something better, but I can't bring myself to do it.
166 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:08:49am |
re: #164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy! How you doin'? How's the Kid?
I'm happy 'cause he's well and GOING BACK TO SCHOOL TODAY.
168 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:11:24am |
re: #165 theheat
My son's pet peeve with tattoos are the Asian characters on Anglos.
170 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:14:54am |
re: #167 MandyManners
Yup. He loves Zakk Wylde. Goes to see them any chance he gets.
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Especially all the ones where the characters don't translate. A lot of web sites show celebrities that get tattoos, and they're misspelled, or the characters mean something other than what they were intended to represent. It's like cakewrecks.com, 'cept tattoos.
171 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:15:47am |
re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So it was H1N1?
Yep. The clinic attached to his pediatrician's office has an on-site lab.
He's gonna' be very behind but, his teacher is happy to work with me to help me get him back up to speed.
173 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:16:45am |
re: #171 MandyManners
Whoa! Bad stuff. Glad to hear he's doing better.
174 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:18:49am |
re: #173 theheat
Whoa! Bad stuff. Glad to hear he's doing better.
Thanks! It's been almost a week. A very long week.
175 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:19:06am |
re: #168 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My son's pet peeve with tattoos are the Asian characters on Anglos.
I share that peeve myself. Also, bad things can happen:
19-year-old Charlene Williams who paid a Dorset tattooist £10 for a Chinese tattoo that she was told said 'mum', has discovered to her horror that the tattoo in reality reads "friend from hell".
Charlene's father had long joked that the tattoo actually said 'chicken chow mein' but the young woman didn't learn the true meaning of the tattoo on her back until a passing Chinese woman read it and started yelling, "evil, evil, very bad."
[Link: www.mirror.co.uk...]
176 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:19:38am |
re: #174 MandyManners
So, how are other things going? 'wink wink nudge nudge'...
177 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:22:19am |
re: #170 theheat
You do know, that to me, that is like sending me a porn link...
My wife just walked into the room and said, "What are you looking at?"
I said "Pictures of cakes."
She said, "Why aren't you wearing pants?"
I said, "I really like cake."
178 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:24:57am |
re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It always comes down to who's still wearing pants, doesn't it?
Unless it's a red meat cake, you're still A-OK in my book.
179 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:26:14am |
Ok, a friend of mine who is extremely into the body art community told me this story and I thought it was an urban legend, but I just found it...
the gold goes not to a victim but to an artist. Andy Sakai, an award-winning tattoo artist, was tired of seeing sacred Japanese words, symbols of his heritage, inked on random white people. So he used their blissful ignorance to make an everlasting statement. Any time a customer came to Sakai’s home studio wanting Japanese tattooed on them, he modified it into a profane word or phrase.
Prank Tattoo Lettering: The Artists RiotPitt junior Brandon Smith wanted a tattoo that proclaimed his manliness, so he decided to get the Chinese characters for “strength” and “honor” on his chest. After 20 minutes under the needle of local tattoo artist Andy Sakai, he emerged with the symbol for “small penis” embedded in his flesh.
Kerri Baker, a Carlow College freshman, paid $50 to have the symbols for “beautiful goddess” etched above her belly button, but when she went into Szechuan Express Asian Noodle Shop sporting a bare midriff, the giggling employees explained to her that the tattoo really said, “Insert General Tso’s Chicken Here!” “I don’t even like General Tso’s!” Baker sobbed. “I’m a vegetarian!”
Sakai was imprisoned. But you know what, this is NOT the end of the story. He had his inmates as prank targets. Using a tattoo gun fashioned out of a sharpened paper clip, dental floss, and a ballpoint pen taped to a plastic spork, the disgruntled prisoner has drawn Black Panther Party symbols on white supremacists, written CRIPS 4 EVA on rival gang members, and left dozens of hardened criminals with butterflies, fairies, and unicorns permanently etched in their skin.
"I wanted a stack of skulls on my back,’ said murderer Jimmy Drake, “and that Asian prick gave me a giant Winnie the Pooh!”
Many prisoners ask for spider webs on their elbows to signify time spent in jail. Sakai’s webs have hidden messages in them such as, “F*ck Cops,” “I Swallow,” and “Salad Tosser.”
Filed under: If it's not true, it ought to be.
[Link: www.tattooique.com...]
180 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:26:54am |
181 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:28:56am |
re: #180 MandyManners
Didn't I see recently that you had a date?
Then I see something (IIRC) yesterday warm and fuzzy wanting a baby?...
Or was I on the "crack"?
182 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:33:52am |
re: #179 iceweasel
That story is so funny it's hard to believe. You have to admit, the tattoo artist has a wicked sense of humor. If I ever get a tattoo I'm drawing it myself, just to be sure. But I really don't see that happening...
183 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:36:46am |
re: #179 iceweasel
Snopes says Hoax. But, I sooo want that to be true.
But just like the story from the Battle of Hastings where the middle finger was "invented" for "eff you"... IT DOESN'T MATTER! IT IS A GREAT STORY!
185 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:39:36am |
re: #183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #182 theheat
Heh. Yeah...I just checked snopes myself and it says hoax. I always assumed it was a hoax because it was too good to be true. (Also, why would a japanese artist automatically know the correct chinese characters to put on someone to say "Insert general tso's chicken here"... )
It's really funny though. I wish it were true. Hee.
186 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:39:46am |
re: #181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Didn't I see recently that you had a date?
Then I see something (IIRC) yesterday warm and fuzzy wanting a baby?...
Or was I on the "crack"?
Ooh, the guy I met a few weeks ago. Well, that's not accurate. I've known of him for a while but, we'd not been properly introduced. We've e-mailed a bit but with The Kid being sick, my focus has not been on my love life. He's busy being retired at 43.
As for the baby thing, well, who wouldn't get the warm-and-fuzzies after seeing him?
187 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:41:04am |
re: #186 MandyManners
Nah... all newborn babies look like a cross between E.T. and Winston Churchill to me.
188 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:41:55am |
189 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:43:17am |
re: #186 MandyManners
Cute little baby.
But he'll grow up and probably get tattoos. That's what they do. Ingrates.
//
190 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:45:45am |
re: #187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nah... all newborn babies look like a cross between E.T. and Winston Churchill to me.
*whack*
Alouette's grandson doesn't, and neither did The Kid. The Kid was delivered under crash-forceps conditions so he didn't have the squished-in Yoda-look that many vaginal-birth babies do.
191 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:46:45am |
192 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:48:10am |
re: #190 MandyManners
My kids were both c-section babies. They never go out the door. They always use the window.
193 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:52:22am |
re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
RETIRED AT 43? CHING!
Or does that mean unemployed?
/
Nah. He's owned car dealerships and a brokerage for ages. He spends his time collecting rare pipes and African and Asian antiques and fishing in Hawaii. Well, the fishing part gets cut down a bit when his daughter is in school but, they get there whenever possible. He's also a nut about cooking--he has a greenhouse to grow his fresh stuff year-round. He makes his own pasta and tells me that his pesto is to die for.
194 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:53:20am |
195 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:53:38am |
re: #191 theheat
With all due respect, fuck Kanye West, the ill-mannered asshole.
196 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:54:58am |
re: #192 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My kids were both c-section babies. They never go out the door. They always use the window.
That's major surgery. Golly. I thought I had it rough post-partum.
197 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:55:19am |
re: #195 MandyManners
Agreed. He's a douche of the highest order. But I did like that song when it came out. It's sad all that talent is wrapped up in such a jackass.
198 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:55:33am |
re: #194 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
If you turn out not to be interested in him?
It's the pasta, right? And, the yellow-fin tuna?
200 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:56:15am |
re: #197 theheat
Agreed. He's a douche of the highest order. But I did like that song when it came out. It's sad all that talent is wrapped up in such a jackass.
I wonder if shame creeps into his mind in the dark of nght.
201 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:57:31am |
re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He just sounds dreamy.
Dark sandy hair with sparkling blue eyes. Or, does his having one section of his kitchen devoted to Herr Krupp get you going?
202 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:57:52am |
re: #200 MandyManners
If it doesn't, it should. But I don't think I want to know what all he does at night.
203 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:58:04am |
My e-mail thingy is back in working order.
204 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:58:49am |
re: #202 theheat
If it doesn't, it should. But I don't think I want to know what all he does at night.
I hope Beyonce gave him an ass-chewing for what he did at the VMA.
205 | theheat Wed, Sep 30, 2009 3:59:49am |
re: #204 MandyManners
Even if she didn't, she owned him so bad it was righteous. I only kinda liked her before, but after that I loved her.
206 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:01:16am |
Earthquake: Magnitude 7.9 - SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
This was about 45 minutes ago, 0516 CDT. Epicenter is in shallow water just offshore.
208 | freetoken Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:05:43am |
re: #206 Shiplord Kirel
According to this map, Padang is near the center and would have had a very strong shake.
Padang is a city of about 750,000. Likely we won't know of the effects for a little while.
209 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:11:32am |
Yesterdays seemed very mild, then about ten hours later I read that "villages have disappeared"...
We humans think we bad? We ain't shit. Mother Nature is boss.
210 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:12:30am |
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center
TSUNAMI BULLETIN NUMBER 001
PACIFIC TSUNAMI WARNING CENTER/NOAA/NWS
ISSUED AT 1026Z 30 SEP 2009THIS BULLETIN IS FOR ALL AREAS OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.
... A REGIONAL TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT ...
A TSUNAMI WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR
INDONESIA / INDIA / THAILAND / MALAYSIA
FOR OTHER AREAS OF THE INDIAN OCEAN REGION...THIS MESSAGE IS FOR
INFORMATION ONLY AT THIS TIME.THIS BULLETIN IS ISSUED AS ADVICE TO GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. ONLY
NATIONAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE
DECISIONS REGARDING THE OFFICIAL STATE OF ALERT IN THEIR AREA AND
ANY ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN IN RESPONSE.AN EARTHQUAKE HAS OCCURRED WITH THESE PRELIMINARY PARAMETERS
ORIGIN TIME - 1016Z 30 SEP 2009
COORDINATES - 0.9 SOUTH 99.9 EAST
LOCATION - SOUTHERN SUMATRA INDONESIA
MAGNITUDE - 7.7EVALUATION
EARTHQUAKES OF THIS SIZE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GENERATE A
DESTRUCTIVE LOCAL TSUNAMI AND SOMETIMES A DESTRUCTIVE REGIONAL
TSUNAMI ALONG COASTS LOCATED USUALLY NO MORE THAN A THOUSAND
KILOMETERS FROM THE EARTHQUAKE EPICENTER. AREAS FURTHER FROM THE
EPICENTER COULD EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA LEVEL CHANGES AND STRONG OR
UNUSUAL COASTAL CURRENTS.HOWEVER - IT IS NOT KNOWN THAT A TSUNAMI WAS GENERATED. THIS
WATCH IS BASED ONLY ON THE EARTHQUAKE EVALUATION. AUTHORITIES IN
THE REGION SHOULD TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION IN RESPONSE TO THIS
POSSIBILITY. THE WATCH WILL NOT EXPAND TO OTHER AREAS OF THE
INDIAN OCEAN UNLESS ADDITIONAL DATA ARE RECEIVED TO WARRANT SUCH
AN EXPANSION.ESTIMATED INITIAL TSUNAMI WAVE ARRIVAL TIMES AT FORECAST POINTS
WITHIN THE WARNING AND WATCH AREAS ARE GIVEN BELOW. ACTUAL
ARRIVAL TIMES MAY DIFFER AND THE INITIAL WAVE MAY NOT BE THE
LARGEST. A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF WAVES AND THE TIME BETWEEN
SUCCESSIVE WAVES CAN BE FIVE MINUTES TO ONE HOUR.LOCATION FORECAST POINT COORDINATES ARRIVAL TIME
———————————————— —————— ——————
INDONESIA PADANG 0.9S 100.1E 1022Z 30 SEP
SIBERUT 1.5S 98.7E 1103Z 30 SEP
BENGKULU 3.9S 102.0E 1125Z 30 SEP
SIMEULUE 2.5N 96.0E 1136Z 30 SEP
BANDA ACEH 5.5N 95.1E 1227Z 30 SEP
BANDAR LAMPUNG 5.7S 105.3E 1251Z 30 SEP
BELAWAN 3.8N 98.8E 1531Z 30 SEP
INDIA GREAT NICOBAR 7.1N 93.6E 1236Z 30 SEP
THAILAND PHUKET 8.0N 98.2E 1400Z 30 SEP
KO PHRA THONG 9.1N 98.2E 1444Z 30 SEP
KO TARUTAO 6.6N 99.6E 1512Z 30 SEP
MALAYSIA GEORGETOWN 5.4N 100.1E 1546Z 30 SEP
PORT DICKSON 2.5N 101.7E 1918Z 30 SEPADDITIONAL BULLETINS WILL BE ISSUED BY THE PACIFIC TSUNAMI
WARNING CENTER FOR THIS EVENT AS MORE INFORMATION
BECOMES AVAILABLE.THE JAPAN METEOROLOGICAL AGENCY MAY ISSUE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION
FOR THIS EVENT. IN THE CASE OF CONFLICTING INFORMATION...THE
MORE CONSERVATIVE INFORMATION SHOULD BE USED FOR SAFETY
212 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:16:47am |
re: #205 theheat
Even if she didn't, she owned him so bad it was righteous. I only kinda liked her before, but after that I loved her.
I've never heard her sing but, I think she has a good character.
214 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17:47am |
re: #206 Shiplord Kirel
Earthquake: Magnitude 7.9 - SOUTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA
This was about 45 minutes ago, 0516 CDT. Epicenter is in shallow water just offshore.
Tsunami watch going out? I wonder if it's connected to the one yesterday.
215 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:18:54am |
216 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:19:17am |
re: #213 laZardo
Here he is! The "do-gooder" is back!
218 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:33:07am |
re: #217 theheat
No doubt.
"It's not nice to fool Mother Nature"...
Two hundred and thirty thousand dead was the final tally. I wonder what the actual number was...
219 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:35:13am |
I hate this earthquake bullshit.
Get me the eff out of Los Angeles, please.
220 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:35:59am |
re: #219 TheMatrix31
There are many roads heading east...
221 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:37:55am |
re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Once I have the money to, I will.
Unlike the government, I like to live within my means.
223 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:41:17am |
225 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:52:33am |
The Kid is thrilled to ge able to go back to school. He got up way before schedule.
226 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:54:49am |
re: #225 MandyManners
Don't worry. He'll be sick of it again tomorrow.
227 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:57:13am |
Fox is reporting that 99 deaths have been reported from yesteday's tsunami in Samoa, and the toll is expected to go higher. Goodness knows what the toll would be without the warning system.
Anything on the quake in Sumatra?
228 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:58:38am |
re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't worry. He'll be sick of it again tomorrow.
To a point, he reminds me of my sister in that she went to school to socialize. However, his grades are good and getting better as he learns how to cope with his ADHD.
229 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:58:46am |
Good morning lizards, a cold but sunny day on tap here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
Your double-take headline of the day:
230 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:00:48am |
re: #229 Irish Rose
If I could afford it, you couldn't keep me off of a space mission.
Or would I just give $20,000,000.00 to some charity. Oh gosh...
231 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:01:13am |
re: #229 Irish Rose
Good morning lizards, a cold but sunny day on tap here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
Your double-take headline of the day:
Clowns in space.
There's no way this can be a good thing.
What's next - mimes?
232 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:02:32am |
re: #205 theheat
Even if she didn't, she owned him so bad it was righteous. I only kinda liked her before, but after that I loved her.
Very classy lady.
233 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:02:56am |
re: #231 SixDegrees
Clowns in space.
There's no way this can be a good thing.
What's next - mimes?
God forbid!
236 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:05:00am |
Good Morning Lizards. Finally a cool(er) day in Jacksonville. Started off in the 60s with a high of 80 today. Bring the Fall!
237 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:06:20am |
Help we don't need?
Bette Midler Warns Glenn Beck Could Set Off a Rwanda-Like Civil War in U.S.
What did Midler compare Beck to? She likened the popular Fox News host to the instigators of the Rwandan civil war, which was the catalyst for the Rwandan genocide where an estimated 800,000 to 1 million lost their lives.
"If you look around at the rest of the world and what this kind of behavior has done, like in Rwanda, where the demagogues got on the radio and fomented all that hate between the Tutsis and the Hutus and the devastation that happened from that, I mean, it's terrifying," Midler said.
According to Midler, that's a possibility in the United States.
"And that could happen, you know, you could turn on a dime," Midler warned. "That could happen here."
This is hysteria and hyperbole, of the same kind that fuels the survivalist right and its current gun and ammo buying spree. The US is not Rwanda. What the crazies ARE likely to instigate is an accelerating outbreak of Tim McVeigh style terrorist violence; bombings, assassinations, etc.; by deranged but well-equipped individuals or very small groups.
238 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:07:02am |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
If only the actors and musicians would stick to acting and singing...
240 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:10:47am |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
Help we don't need?
Bette Midler Warns Glenn Beck Could Set Off a Rwanda-Like Civil War in U.S.
This is hysteria and hyperbole, of the same kind that fuels the survivalist right and its current gun and ammo buying spree. The US is not Rwanda. What the crazies ARE likely to instigate is an accelerating outbreak of Tim McVeigh style terrorist violence; bombings, assassinations, etc.; by deranged but well-equipped individuals or very small groups.
Go back to the studio, Bette.
Speaking of Rwanda and the radio, remember what Mark Lloyd, BHO's choice for the new diversity office at the FCC said about it?
[Link: www.fcc.gov...]
[Link: www.freepress.net...]
[Link: www.lunch.com...]
[Link: www.sourcewatch.org...]
Praise for Chavez
[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]
241 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:11:59am |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
This is hysteria and hyperbole, of the same kind that fuels the survivalist right and its current gun and ammo buying spree. The US is not Rwanda. What the crazies ARE likely to instigate is an accelerating outbreak of Tim McVeigh style terrorist violence; bombings, assassinations, etc.; by deranged but well-equipped individuals or very small groups.
And sooner rather than later, I fear.
242 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:12:56am |
List of speakers at the National Conference for Media Reform in 2008.
[Link: www.freepress.net...]
243 | Pullus Iulius Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:14:07am |
re: #231 SixDegrees
Clowns in space.
There's no way this can be a good thing.
244 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:14:41am |
246 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:16:46am |
Better list of speakers.
[Link: www.freepress.net...]
247 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:17:53am |
Would someone please find the video of Lloyd speaking at the NCMR in the list of links in No. 240? It MIGHT be in the last one, in which he praises Chavez.
249 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:29:56am |
Yet another has-been makes an ass of himself:
Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’
The grand old man of letters Gore Vidal claims America is ‘rotting away’ — and don’t expect Barack Obama to save it
---
Last year he famously switched allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama during the Democratic nomination process for president. Now, he reveals, he regrets his change of heart. How’s Obama doing? “Dreadfully. I was hopeful. He was the most intelligent person we’ve had in that position for a long time. But he’s inexperienced. He has a total inability to understand military matters. He’s acting as if Afghanistan is the magic talisman: solve that and you solve terrorism.” America should leave Afghanistan, he says. “We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort of conquering the Middle East or whatever you want to call it.” The “War on Terror” was “made up”, Vidal says. “The whole thing was PR, just like ‘weapons of mass destruction’. It has wrecked the airline business, which my father founded in the 1930s. He’d be cutting his wrists. Now when you fly you’re both scared to death and bored to death, a most disagreeable combination.”
Pure projection: It is actually Vidal himself who is rotting away.
250 | TheMatrix31 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:33:59am |
re: #249 Shiplord Kirel
The buyer's remorse is hilarious though.
251 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:37:42am |
Just turned on the TV for the first time today... Chicago kid being beaten... do people really want to watch that?
I don't get it. I'm imagining it has been shown thousands of times... enough?
252 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:39:31am |
re: #251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've managed to completely miss that. As long as the prosecutors and jurors don't miss it, I don't need to see it.
253 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:41:19am |
re: #252 Spenser (with an S)
I meant to miss it. Shit.
255 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:45:49am |
re: #254 Irish Rose
Good morning, Rose. Siding back on yet?
256 | razorbacker Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:47:15am |
'Morning folks.
Got back from my trip down South. I'm sunburned, wasp-stung, slightly hung-over, been hooked in the back twice, stomach is queasy from eating too-much-too-rich food and to top it all off now I've got three people all a little bit mad at me and no way out to keep everyone happy.
We drove the convertible and something minor broke. It happens. The thing is 42 years old and propelled down the road by thousands of controlled explosions happening every minute. I'm surprised that it still reliably starts and moves.
Anyway, I'm leaned over the fender and I straighten up, throw the wrench across the garage, cuss a little and say, "Shit, for $5K I'd just as soon sell this sumbeech and forget about the damned thing." Word gets around town and now I've got three people with $5 grand all wanting to take my troubles off my hands. Thing is, I'm having third thoughts and I'm now not sure that I want to sell. But I said it, and I stick with what I say.
Crap. There is a reason that you're not supposed to speak in anger.
257 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:48:44am |
re: #255 Spenser (with an S)
Good morning, Rose. Siding back on yet?
Not yet.
Too scared to go up there.
258 | reine.de.tout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:50:03am |
re: #252 Spenser (with an S)
I've managed to completely miss that. As long as the prosecutors and jurors don't miss it, I don't need to see it.
It's brutal.
259 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:51:13am |
re: #256 razorbacker
"Shit, for $5K I'd just as soon sell this sumbeech and forget about the damned thing."
Even to an honorable man, that is hardly a verbal contract. It was obviously an expression of anger.
260 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:51:39am |
re: #256 razorbacker
Good morning all!
Rise and shine!
...Razor...A42 year old what?
261 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:52:41am |
re: #260 reloadingisnotahobby
...Razor...A42 year old what?
Don't answer him! He's got $5k in his paypal account right now!
//
262 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:53:53am |
re: #261 Spenser (with an S)
What a rat!!!
/// Mornin Spenser!
263 | Shiplord Kirel Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:54:12am |
Video: Bernie Goldberg SLAMS FOX News On Bill O'Reilly
Like LGF, Goldberg is noted for exposing left-wing bias in the mainstream media. Now, also like LGF, he has become alarmed at trends on the other side of the aisle and goes after Beck, Hannity, etc. for tea party "cheerleading" and distortion.
264 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:54:45am |
re: #249 Shiplord Kirel
Yet another has-been makes an ass of himself:
Gore Vidal: ‘We’ll have a dictatorship soon in the US’
Pure projection: It is actually Vidal himself who is rotting away.
William Buckley's classic smackdown of Gore Vidal:
265 | reine.de.tout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:56:32am |
re: #263 Shiplord Kirel
Video: Bernie Goldberg SLAMS FOX News On Bill O'Reilly
[Video]Like LGF, Goldberg is noted for exposing left-wing bias in the mainstream media. Now, also like LGF, he has become alarmed at trends on the other side of the aisle and goes after Beck, Hannity, etc. for tea party "cheerleading" and distortion.
Good!
266 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:57:24am |
re: #256 razorbacker
'Morning folks.
Got back from my trip down South. I'm sunburned, wasp-stung, slightly hung-over, been hooked in the back twice, stomach is queasy from eating too-much-too-rich food and to top it all off now I've got three people all a little bit mad at me and no way out to keep everyone happy.
We drove the convertible and something minor broke. It happens. The thing is 42 years old and propelled down the road by thousands of controlled explosions happening every minute. I'm surprised that it still reliably starts and moves.
Anyway, I'm leaned over the fender and I straighten up, throw the wrench across the garage, cuss a little and say, "Shit, for $5K I'd just as soon sell this sumbeech and forget about the damned thing." Word gets around town and now I've got three people with $5 grand all wanting to take my troubles off my hands. Thing is, I'm having third thoughts and I'm now not sure that I want to sell. But I said it, and I stick with what I say.
Crap. There is a reason that you're not supposed to speak in anger.
Right, but it's YOUR car. Don't feel compelled to sell it unless you really DO want to sell it. It's wrong for people to try and manipulate you into selling it by applying pressure or guilt... and it's not wrong to tell them so.
I suggest you wait a bit on the decision so that you can make it with a clear head.
267 | reine.de.tout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:59:08am |
re: #263 Shiplord Kirel
Video: Bernie Goldberg SLAMS FOX News On Bill O'Reilly
[Video]Like LGF, Goldberg is noted for exposing left-wing bias in the mainstream media. Now, also like LGF, he has become alarmed at trends on the other side of the aisle and goes after Beck, Hannity, etc. for tea party "cheerleading" and distortion.
Bernie was fired up, there!
268 | reine.de.tout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 5:59:43am |
re: #266 Irish Rose
Right, but it's YOUR car. Don't feel compelled to sell it unless you really DO want to sell it. It's wrong for people to try and manipulate you into selling it by applying pressure or guilt... and it's not wrong to tell them so.
I suggest you wait a bit on the decision so that you can make it with a clear head.
Good advice, Rose.
269 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:00:35am |
re: #266 Irish Rose
I'm sure if it's 42 years old and a convertible ...it's worth a great deal more than 5k...
270 | razorbacker Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:01:07am |
re: #260 reloadingisnotahobby
Two decades ago, I'm driving down I-55 in the MO bootheel and I see a junked '67 Cutlass Supreme convertible. Sad thing. No front clip, interior looks like a convertible does when it sits naked to the elements, paint is all gone.
But the bones are there. All the engine, transmission, running gear and the body from the windshield back. So, like the idjit that I am, I turn around and go up the the guy and buy it. Drove it home sitting on an overturned five gallon bucket. Spent three years finding all the correct body parts and overhauling the engine. And I've been driving it for 17 years.
It's cool. Co-eds see you going down the street and ask for a ride. Little kids come up and want to sit in it.
But it is over 40 years old. And like most things 40 years old, it needs special handling to keep it presentable and reliable. The wife likes it; it makes her feel young again to sit in the passenger seat and feel the wind blow through her hair.
But it is, when all is said and done, just a 42 year old example of GM machinery.
271 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:02:02am |
re: #269 reloadingisnotahobby
I'm sure if it's 42 years old and a convertible ...it's worth a great deal more than 5k...
Absolutely.
Those people are taking advantage of you, razorbacker.
They're only angry with you because you're not letting them get away with it ;).
272 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:04:16am |
re: #270 razorbacker
The wife likes it; it makes her feel young again to sit in the passenger seat and feel the wind blow through her hair.
But it is, when all is said and done, just a 42 year old example of GM machinery.
Your wife likes it, and it makes her feel young.
Enough said.
273 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:04:35am |
re: #237 Shiplord Kirel
Help we don't need?
Bette Midler Warns Glenn Beck Could Set Off a Rwanda-Like Civil War in U.S.
This is hysteria and hyperbole, of the same kind that fuels the survivalist right and its current gun and ammo buying spree. The US is not Rwanda. What the crazies ARE likely to instigate is an accelerating outbreak of Tim McVeigh style terrorist violence; bombings, assassinations, etc.; by deranged but well-equipped individuals or very small groups.
You're right, of course, but it's true that Radio Rwanda and the RTLM played a significant role in the Rwandan genocide.
Due to high rates of illiteracy at the time of the genocide, radio was an important way for the government to deliver messages to the public. Two radio stations key to inciting violence before and during the genocide were Radio Rwanda and Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines (RTLM). In March 1992, Radio Rwanda was first used in directly promoting the killing of Tutsi in Bugesera, south of the national capital Kigali. Radio Rwanda repeatedly broadcast a communiqué warning that Hutu in Bugesera would be attacked by Tutsi, a message used by local officials to convince Hutu that they needed to protect themselves by attacking first. Led by soldiers, Hutu civilians and members of the Interahamwe subsequently attacked and killed hundreds of Tutsi.[11] At the end of 1993, the RTLM's highly sensationalized reporting on the assassination of the Burundi president, a Hutu, was used to underline supposed Tutsi brutality. The RTLM falsely reported that the president had been tortured, including castration of the victim (in pre-colonial times, some Tutsi kings castrated defeated enemy rulers). From late October 1993, the RTLM repeatedly broadcast themes developed by the extremist written press, underlining the inherent differences between Hutu and Tutsi, the foreign origin of Tutsi, the disproportionate share of Tutsi wealth and power, and the horrors of past Tutsi rule. RTLM also repeatedly stressed the need to be alert to Tutsi plots and possible attacks and called upon Hutu to prepare to 'defend' themselves against the Tutsi.[11] After April 6, 1994, authorities used RTLM and Radio Rwanda to spur and direct killings, specifically in areas where the killings initially were resisted. Both radio stations were used to incite and mobilize, then to give specific directions for carrying out the killings
I linked earlier in the thread a NewsMax guy calling for a military coup to 'resolve the "Obama Problem". '
I'm not defending Midler's remarks, but there's an awful lot of crazy being pumped out right now by various places. Fox isn't Radio Rwanda and NewsMax isn't Der Sturmer or the RTLM, but even so.
274 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:04:45am |
re: #270 razorbacker
My sisters first car was a bare bones Cutlass ...350 w/ 3 on the tree!!It didn't have air!
but it was FAST ...
Hell if they're mad at ya ...they must not be really close friends!
275 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:05:46am |
re: #270 razorbacker
P.S...Exnay on the Oedkay!!
LOL!
276 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:09:16am |
re: #273 iceweasel
I'm not defending Midler's remarks, but there's an awful lot of crazy being pumped out right now by various places. Fox isn't Radio Rwanda and NewsMax isn't Der Sturmer or the RTLM, but even so.
Gah. Say what you are implying. "VOA isn't Tokyo Rose, but they were both propaganda, so...?"
277 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:12:10am |
Ugh. Morning Lizardia. One of those days I wish I still lived in the ivory tower.
278 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:13:11am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
Why?
You showered without soap ..?
279 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:13:38am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
Ugh. Morning Lizardia. One of those days I wish I still lived in the ivory tower.
One of those mornings, eh?
280 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:13:42am |
re: #276 Spenser (with an S)
Gah. Say what you are implying. "VOA isn't Tokyo Rose, but they were both propaganda, so...?"
I think his point is clear. Glenn Beck isn't inciting genocide, but that history shows us that the media can bring out the Violent Stupid in people. Its possible that someone who otherwise would be a lone nut in the woods decides to do something to "save America" from the "marxist". The same way otherwise nonviolent hutu decided to "defend themselves" based on what RTLM had broadcast.
281 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:14:14am |
re: #278 reloadingisnotahobby
Why?
You showered without soap ..?
Cheesy, but it made me smile. Actually, I've had my head buried in a technical spec for the last two days, staring at mathematical formulas until my eyes bleed. Project deadlines just aren't as much fun in the real world.
282 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:15:06am |
re: #276 Spenser (with an S)
Gah. Say what you are implying. "VOA isn't Tokyo Rose, but they were both propaganda, so...?"
I'm pointing out that Midler's remarks, specifically this one, are not as crazy as they might seem:
"If you look around at the rest of the world and what this kind of behavior has done, like in Rwanda, where the demagogues got on the radio and fomented all that hate between the Tutsis and the Hutus and the devastation that happened from that, I mean, it's terrifying," Midler said.
Radio was used as a means to encourage and spread genocide in Rwanda. That is fact.
It is also fact that we have people on the radio now who dreamily, hopefully, talk about how there 'may' have to be a civil war, or an armed insurrection, or that the endtimes are coming. Beck is a purveyor of such an apocalyptic world view. And it is terrifying.
Do I care what Midler or any celebrity has to say on politics? No. Do I think the US will have a civil war? No. I think the scenarios Shiplord mentioned are all far more likely.
283 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:15:47am |
re: #280 McSpiff
I think his point is clear. Glenn Beck isn't inciting genocide, but that history shows us that the media can bring out the Violent Stupid in people. Its possible that someone who otherwise would be a lone nut in the woods decides to do something to "save America" from the "marxist". The same way otherwise nonviolent hutu decided to "defend themselves" based on what RTLM had broadcast.
Exactly, thank you. I'm a she, btw.
284 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:16:24am |
re: #277 thedopefishlives
Ugh. Morning Lizardia. One of those days I wish I still lived in the ivory tower.
Killing an elephant (just to take its tusks to build an ivory tower) is just wrong!
285 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:16:39am |
re: #281 thedopefishlives
Ah!
More coffee!
Want a danish?
Not to that degree ...but I've been there !
Fine tuning some new water treatment and boilers for the last week!
I'm taking some Vac ...time as soon as it's where I want it!
286 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:17:00am |
287 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:18:18am |
re: #285 reloadingisnotahobby
Ah!
More coffee!
Want a danish?
Not to that degree ...but I've been there !
Fine tuning some new water treatment and boilers for the last week!
I'm taking some Vac ...time as soon as it's where I want it!
Yeah, it happens. Too bad I burned my vacation time on my anniversary two weeks ago, and then on a sick day last week. I'm starting to feel the strain, so I'm probably just going to crash on the bed after I get home tonight and be dead to the world for a while. Should have me up and going again by tomorrow.
288 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:18:20am |
re: #283 iceweasel
Exactly, thank you. I'm a she, btw.
Whoa, sorry about that! I tend to default to male pronouns. No offence meant.
289 | razorbacker Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:19:33am |
re: #275 reloadingisnotahobby
P.S...Exnay on the Oedkay!!
LOL!
Heh. Know what? While we were gone the wife and I celebrated our 36th anniversary. We've got a history. She knows, and I know, that no pert-boobied giggle-snort tight-body has the slightest chance of holding my interest.
Love is not blind. Love does, however, filter the light in such a way that you don't really see what the years have done to your beloved.
I actually pity those who spend there time pursuing youth, instead of keeping a young heart.
290 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:19:46am |
re: #288 McSpiff
Whoa, sorry about that! I tend to default to male pronouns. No offence meant.
None taken whatsoever, don't worry. It's normal to assume commenters on political blogs are male, because they usually are. I often do it myself.
291 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:20:46am |
re: #282 iceweasel
I know what you and Ms. Divine meant, I just think it's wrong. Where were all these columns and postings when the Bush Assassination movie (play?) came out or even the recent G20 riots which, unlike the tea party stuff, actually became violent?
292 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:20:57am |
re: #289 razorbacker
I actually pity those who spend there time pursuing youth, instead of keeping a young heart.
My in-laws are over 65 years old now, and they make no attempt to hide it. They have no reason to; they are so happily in love, as they have been for the last 40-some years, that they SEEM young. The Mrs. Fish and I decided that's how we want our marriage to be like.
293 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:21:52am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone?
294 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:23:07am |
re: #293 ggt
Well !
If I had hair...It would be a very bad hair day!
25-35 mph out there!
Morning!
295 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:23:43am |
re: #289 razorbacker
Very nice. Can I borrow that? :) I just found out what it takes to have me drag my ass more than 2 miles. Went jogging with my bride of 18 years and still wanted to impress her. Kept going for 2.5 miles until I couldn't keep going anymore. 4 kids later and she is awesome.
296 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:23:49am |
re: #289 razorbacker
One of the nicest posts I have ever seen on LGF. Glad to see yer back ('specially after seein' yer front).
297 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:23:50am |
re: #289 razorbacker
Heh. Know what? While we were gone the wife and I celebrated our 36th anniversary. We've got a history. She knows, and I know, that no pert-boobied giggle-snort tight-body has the slightest chance of holding my interest.
Love is not blind. Love does, however, filter the light in such a way that you don't really see what the years have done to your beloved.
I actually pity those who spend there time pursuing youth, instead of keeping a young heart.
For you and your beautiful bride:
298 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:24:15am |
Have we discussed the propriety of President Obama going abroad to lobby for the Olympics in Chicago in 2016? Personally, I don't care that he's going, anymore than I cared how many vacations GWB took. The POTUS is always connected, regardless of his location.
However, I don't know that hosting the Olympics is all it's cracked up to be. For a place like Salt Lake City hosting the winter games, it was probably a good thing, thanks to Mitt Romney's involvement. SLC is a pretty small town compared to Chicago. But for a place like Chicago, the city will basically be paralyzed for 2-3 weeks while the much larger summer games are in town.
And since I believe Obama will be re-elected, there is a part of me that feels like Obama the narcissist sees the Olympics in Chicago (in the summer of 2016) as his chance for another speech that will serve as a "curtain call" to the world for his Presidency as his second term concludes.
299 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:25:15am |
re: #283 iceweasel
Exactly, thank you. I'm a she, btw.
I know that, but I'm trying to figure out where you are located. UK?
300 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:25:20am |
re: #291 Spenser (with an S)
I know what you and Ms. Divine meant, I just think it's wrong. Where were all these columns and postings when the Bush Assassination movie (play?) came out or even the recent G20 riots which, unlike the tea party stuff, actually became violent?
There's a difference between one movie, which was canadian or british, IIRC, and the endless stream of hate rhetoric, assassination rhetoric and armed insurrection rhetoric being pumped out now by mainstream people on the right. Say what you will about the left under the Bush admin-- elected dem reps weren't encouraging antiwar protesters to show up with guns at townhalls.
In any case, let's pretend there was parity between the ugly on the left then and what's happening on the right. Does that mean we shouldn't condemn what's happening now on the right?
Obviously it does not, and attempts to turn this into "the left did it too!" or "the left did it worse!" are attempts to at best minimise what's happening on the right, and at worst, excuse it.
301 | Dreader1962 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:25:26am |
re: #264 Alouette
William Buckley's classic smackdown of Gore Vidal:
[Video]
I have a high tolerance for crap, but I couldn't finish that article on Gore Vidal. He's obviously a 'truther' and I had no idea that he corresponded with and admired Timothy McVeigh.
302 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:27:21am |
re: #299 Alouette
I know that, but I'm trying to figure out where you are located. UK?
A secret underground lair in an undisclosed location, funded by the Soros Foundation. :)
303 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:27:48am |
Well it's getting bad outside!
I'm headin to my buildings and take in old Glory till the wind dies down!!
304 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:27:53am |
re: #292 thedopefishlives
Far too many people waste valuable time battling their spouses over every little issue, maneuvering for control when they could be using that time to build a loving, mutually satisfying, enduring marriage. Sad.
305 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:28:21am |
re: #291 Spenser (with an S)
I know what you and Ms. Divine meant, I just think it's wrong. Where were all these columns and postings when the Bush Assassination movie (play?) came out or even the recent G20 riots which, unlike the tea party stuff, actually became violent?
I think a large part of that is due to history. Things like OK city bombing, Waco, etc. Not to say the left doesn't have a violent past... just that its farther out and before the 24 hour news network. I think the type of events I listed have had a larger impact on the public psyche than rioting or a movie.
Another factor is gun ownership is a key issue for the right. It's fairly rare to hear of heavily armed protesters at things like G20, or at least I haven't. When the people with guns starting saying things like "well, maybe we DO need a civil war..." it has a lot more behind it than when stoned college kids say the same thing.
306 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:28:24am |
re: #298 _RememberTonyC
Have we discussed the propriety of President Obama going abroad to lobby for the Olympics in Chicago in 2016? Personally, I don't care that he's going, anymore than I cared how many vacations GWB took. The POTUS is always connected, regardless of his location.
However, I don't know that hosting the Olympics is all it's cracked up to be. For a place like Salt Lake City hosting the winter games, it was probably a good thing, thanks to Mitt Romney's involvement. SLC is a pretty small town compared to Chicago. But for a place like Chicago, the city will basically be paralyzed for 2-3 weeks while the much larger summer games are in town.
And since I believe Obama will be re-elected, there is a part of me that feels like Obama the narcissist sees the Olympics in Chicago (in the summer of 2016) as his chance for another speech that will serve as a "curtain call" to the world for his Presidency as his second term concludes.
I've not heard any of my neighbors in Chicagoland express enthusiam for the Olympics. ('cept Gubernor Daley)
307 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:29:30am |
re: #304 Irish Rose
Far too many people waste valuable time battling their spouses over every little issue, maneuvering for control when they could be using that time to build a loving, mutually satisfying, enduring marriage. Sad.
It's because a lot of people marry with an expectation that they're getting something out of it. Whether it be sexual gratification, money, prestige, or even something as noble-sounding as companionship, they're expecting to receive something from their partner, rather than looking to GIVE to their partner and satisfy them. Things always run smoothest in the Fishbowl when I spend extra time taking care of my wife.
309 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:30:07am |
re: #298 _RememberTonyC
"A President does not get a vacation, he gets a change of location."
-President Ronald Reagan
310 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:30:19am |
re: #305 McSpiff
I think a large part of that is due to history. Things like OK city bombing, Waco, etc. Not to say the left doesn't have a violent past... just that its farther out and before the 24 hour news network. I think the type of events I listed have had a larger impact on the public psyche than rioting or a movie.
Another factor is gun ownership is a key issue for the right. It's fairly rare to hear of heavily armed protesters at things like G20, or at least I haven't. When the people with guns starting saying things like "well, maybe we DO need a civil war..." it has a lot more behind it than when stoned college kids say the same thing.
It does sound scary, except that stone college kids have caused more "trouble" in the last century than armed conservatives.
311 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:31:36am |
re: #306 ggt
I've not heard any of my neighbors in Chicagoland express enthusiam for the Olympics. ('cept Gubernor Daley)
[Link: www.time.com...]
313 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:32:23am |
re: #302 iceweasel
A secret underground lair in an undisclosed location, funded by the Soros Foundation. :)
Must be someplace in Europe. Unless you're so deep underground you have developed a cave biorhythym.
314 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:33:07am |
re: #311 albusteve
[Link: www.time.com...]
Gubernur Daley is depending on the Olympics to pull Chicago and his reputation from the sewer. Good Luck with that.
315 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:35:22am |
re: #313 Alouette
Must be someplace in Europe. Unless you're so deep underground you have developed a cave biorhythym.
You're welcome to speculate, but my sleeping habits (or lack thereof) will afford you no clue whatsoever. Just sayin'.
316 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:35:41am |
re: #310 ggt
It does sound scary, except that stone college kids have caused more "trouble" in the last century than armed conservatives.
O agreed. I'm not talking fact, I'm talking perception. Keep in mind many reporting the news, and writing the opinion pieces are more familiar with college age "anarchist" types. They all went to the same universities. Hell, I'm sure some of them were involved and now just look back on it as youthful indiscretion. I know I deal with more wanna be "anarchists" at school than right wing gun nuts. Never underestimate fear of the unknown.
317 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:35:53am |
I'm gonna' be popping in and out today because I've an enormous amount of laundry from The Kid's room and I let cleaning in there slack off while he was sick. He was good about using several small trash bags and he even bagged most into a Hefty bag but, ugh. I fumigated it with Lysol yesterday or the day before and I did it again a few minutes ago just to make sure every little virus is dead.
318 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:36:11am |
re: #314 ggt
He'll accidentally build the venue on some ancient Chicago Machine burial ground and they'll have a frickin' "Poltergeist"y mass voter fraud for opening ceremonies.
319 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:36:36am |
re: #314 ggt
Gubernur Daley is depending on the Olympics to pull Chicago and his reputation from the sewer. Good Luck with that.
right, to hell with the almost certain financial disaster...but then BO would figure out a way to make Kansas pay for it, along with the rest of us
320 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:37:16am |
Hi all.
Looks like now its the democrats who are using death to scare people (D).
321 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:37:36am |
re: #317 MandyManners
I'm gonna' be popping in and out today because I've an enormous amount of laundry from The Kid's room and I let cleaning in there slack off while he was sick. He was good about using several small trash bags and he even bagged most into a Hefty bag but, ugh. I fumigated it with Lysol yesterday or the day before and I did it again a few minutes ago just to make sure every little virus is dead.
Ugh, sorry.
322 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:38:42am |
re: #315 iceweasel
You're welcome to speculate, but my sleeping habits (or lack thereof) will afford you no clue whatsoever. Just sayin'.
Your spelling habits hint that you are in the UK.
323 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:38:45am |
re: #305 McSpiff
I think we have a difference of definitions here. Tim McVeigh was not conservative as anyone here might be. He was an anarchist and a follower of some non-Christian belief. Whats his name at Waco was not a conservative like "fiscal conservative, strong military-type". He was a nutter who didn't listen to Rush or any mainstream radio to get his ideas. The 20th century was bloody largely due to left-wing types but I don't think any lefty here is about to start violence.
324 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:39:48am |
re: #320 FrogMarch
Hi all.
Looks like now its the democrats who are using death to scare people (D).
Good grief, what an asshole.
325 | reine.de.tout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:40:43am |
re: #317 MandyManners
I'm gonna' be popping in and out today because I've an enormous amount of laundry from The Kid's room and I let cleaning in there slack off while he was sick. He was good about using several small trash bags and he even bagged most into a Hefty bag but, ugh. I fumigated it with Lysol yesterday or the day before and I did it again a few minutes ago just to make sure every little virus is dead.
So, how long can the flu virus live on surfaces? To predict the lifespan of a virus is difficult but is estimated at anywhere between a few seconds and 48 hours. This, however, is purely an educated guess. There have been cases of microbes having survived hundreds of years. In practical terms, the lifespan largely depends on the hardiness of the specific virus, the type of surface and the prevailing environment. Viruses need certain conditions to survive and proliferate. Microbes need a minimum humidity for survival. Neither bacteria nor virus can survive in a humidity of under 10 percent. Bacteria can reproduce on their own whereas viruses need a host without which they are unable to reproduce. This is an added factor for the shortened lifespan of a virus on the surface.
326 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:41:37am |
327 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:42:35am |
re: #323 Spenser (with an S)
I think we have a difference of definitions here. Tim McVeigh was not conservative as anyone here might be. He was an anarchist and a follower of some non-Christian belief. Whats his name at Waco was not a conservative like "fiscal conservative, strong military-type". He was a nutter who didn't listen to Rush or any mainstream radio to get his ideas. The 20th century was bloody largely due to left-wing types but I don't think any lefty here is about to start violence.
I agree with your definitions. I just don't think the media does. Tim McVeigh gets dumped in with the smaller/anti- government side of the right and Waco gets put in the "so religious it's almost creepy" SoCons group by the media. Or at least thats my perception of the media treatment of them.
328 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:44:25am |
re: #306 ggt
I've not heard any of my neighbors in Chicagoland express enthusiam for the Olympics. ('cept Gubernor Daley)
because the olympics are a giant pain in the ass! if you get the games, buy some apt bldg you can rent out in 2016, at least you'll be one of the lucky few to make some $$ off the games.
329 | razorbacker Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:45:08am |
re: #295 Spenser (with an S)
You can have it.
I suspect, with no back-up at all, that an awful lot of the good things in life happen just because people don't want their loved ones to know how sorry they really are.
Folks, that's me for today.
Got more to do that I have will to do, but sitting here clicking away ain't getting any of it done.
330 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:45:41am |
re: #322 Alouette
Your spelling habits hint that you are in the UK.
They don't.
Unless you consider every country in the world which employs British English to be the UK, and unless you consider everyone who might spell that way to be teleported to the UK and have any other citizenship revoked. And unless you think no one ever goes to schools in places other than the US, or has lived in a place not the US, or has worked in a place not the US. Etc, etc, etc.
331 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:46:08am |
re: #317 MandyManners
Is the kid up and around? Back to school even?
332 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:46:12am |
re: #326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That'll resurrect the "death panel" idea...
It sure would be nice if our politicians in Washington would knock it off with the inflammatory rhetoric and ridiculous accusations, and get down to the business of working together for the American people.
A pipe dream, I know.
333 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:46:42am |
re: #328 _RememberTonyC
Yep, I think the lucky ones will be those of us who 1)don't pay chicago or IL taxes 2) don't have to drive through the 5 years of construction but 3) live within a 2 hour drive if we want to go see an amazing spectacle.
334 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:47:00am |
re: #317 MandyManners
I'm gonna' be popping in and out today because I've an enormous amount of laundry from The Kid's room and I let cleaning in there slack off while he was sick. He was good about using several small trash bags and he even bagged most into a Hefty bag but, ugh. I fumigated it with Lysol yesterday or the day before and I did it again a few minutes ago just to make sure every little virus is dead.
Moms are saints ...
335 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:47:29am |
re: #324 Irish Rose
Good grief, what an asshole.
Yeah- the whole "the other side wants you to die" is so tired.
This is how the democrat/left in congress let the republicans have a say in the writing of the heath care reform legislation.
336 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:47:35am |
337 | _RememberTonyC Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:48:03am |
re: #333 Spenser (with an S)
Yep, I think the lucky ones will be those of us who 1)don't pay chicago or IL taxes 2) don't have to drive through the 5 years of construction but 3) live within a 2 hour drive if we want to go see an amazing spectacle.
agree, agree, and agree
339 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:48:19am |
We have lizards here from all over the world.
I only care about iceweasels' contributions here, I really could care less where she's from.
340 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:48:51am |
re: #329 razorbacker
You got it.
“If there hadn't been women we'd still be squatting in a cave eating raw meat, because we made civilization in order to impress our girlfriends.”
-Orson Welles
342 | altermite Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:48:58am |
re: #322 Alouette
Your spelling habits hint that you are in the UK.
I thought the whole iceweasel inquisition thing had gone out of fashion over the past few months?
343 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:49:32am |
re: #330 iceweasel
They don't.
Unless you consider every country in the world which employs British English to be the UK, and unless you consider everyone who might spell that way to be teleported to the UK and have any other citizenship revoked. And unless you think no one ever goes to schools in places other than the US, or has lived in a place not the US, or has worked in a place not the US. Etc, etc, etc.
I am currently posting this from a place not the US. American spelling of English seems to be the norm here.
344 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:49:34am |
re: #325 reine.de.tout
I don't know if I should be freaking out or reasssured. I hate using the mask because I tend to hyperventilate wearing it. Maybe I'll go fumigate again.
345 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:49:38am |
Signs are growing that Obama will seek to change the war goals, to redefine what is success and divert the discussion away from the more-troops measure. It's not defeat in Afghanistan; it's victory of a different kind.
[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]
waffling with the lives of Americans...Afghanistan is a political toy for BO
346 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:49:55am |
Stoner music thread
shreds Fall dawn intent to post
Iowahaiku
347 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:50:03am |
Good Morning everyone!
I confess lurking is what I do best but I especially like the LGF morning coffee clutch. You're special...
348 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:51:19am |
re: #338 iceweasel
McVeigh was rightwing.
Stalin and Ho Chi Minh were leftwing. 40million to 300. Do I win?
I said he was not conservative along the lines of anyone we're talking about here.
349 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:51:43am |
re: #342 altermite
I thought the whole iceweasel inquisition thing had gone out of fashion over the past few months?
Why is it a horrible thing to be curious about a Lizard's geographic location? Most of us are not shy about where we live. I live in Michigan but right now I'm in Tzefat, Israel.
350 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:51:46am |
re: #331 FrogMarch
Is the kid up and around? Back to school even?
Oh, yeah. It's very peaceful today. No ramped-up volume for Madden 2010 or the ringing of that infernal bell. No e-mails every five minutes or a constant stream of IM's.
351 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:52:29am |
re: #343 Alouette
I am currently posting this from a place not the US. American spelling of English seems to be the norm here.
So what?
I guess it isn't Canada, NZ, or South Africa then either, to name just a few other places that employ British spelling. I guess on your map they're part of the UK?
352 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:06am |
re: #349 Alouette
Why is it a horrible thing to be curious about a Lizard's geographic location? Most of us are not shy about where we live. I live in Michigan but right now I'm in Tzefat, Israel.
kool sekrits...
353 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:29am |
re: #334 _RememberTonyC
Moms are saints ...
Saints? More like experts in self-preservation. I didn't want to get H1N1 so I quarantined him.
354 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:30am |
re: #330 iceweasel
God, no sarc tag? That was kind of pissy, no? Allouette is not asking for your address, she is playing a diction detective game.
355 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:52am |
re: #340 Spenser (with an S)
You got it.
“If there hadn't been women we'd still be squatting in a cave eating raw meat, because we made civilization in order to impress our girlfriends.”
-Orson Welles
"We will eat no cow before its time."
-Orson Welles
356 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:55am |
re: #335 FrogMarch
Yeah- the whole "the other side wants you to die" is so tired.
This is how the democrat/left in congress let the republicans have a say in the writing of the heath care reform legislation.
Yes, but intellectual honesty is important here. BOTH parties are engaging in vicious, inflammatory rehtoric, exploitation and fearmongering... you can't rebuke one party unless you're willing to rebuke the other.
And while they bicker and argue like grade schoolers, more and more Americans die or have their lives cut short because they don't have access to medication and preventive medicine.
357 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:53:56am |
re: #348 Spenser (with an S)
Stalin and Ho Chi Minh were leftwing. 40million to 300. Do I win?
I said he was not conservative along the lines of anyone we're talking about here.
Neither are Stalin or Ho Chi Minh left along the lines of...well, anyone at all in this country, pretty much.
358 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:54:12am |
re: #343 Alouette
I am currently posting this from a place not the US. American spelling of English seems to be the norm here.
Canada, Australia, New Zealand and India all tend to use UK spellings to some degree. In Canada this is somewhat variable but when in doubt I use the UK spelling. We use colour instead of color, but math instead of maths. I suspect you'll see the same variation in the other countries listed. So that's at least 3 countries iceweasel could be in, born in, have family from or was educated in... other than the UK.
359 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:55:15am |
re: #351 iceweasel
So what?
I guess it isn't Canada, NZ, or South Africa then either, to name just a few other places that employ British spelling. I guess on your map they're part of the UK?
Did Benny Hill ever lift Lorrie's bonnet on the tele?
360 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:55:35am |
re: #349 Alouette
Why is it a horrible thing to be curious about a Lizard's geographic location? Most of us are not shy about where we live. I live in Michigan but right now I'm in Tzefat, Israel.
It's not, but I don't think she should be badgered to disclose that information unless she wants to.
Just saying.
361 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:56:11am |
re: #347 Semper Fi
Good Morning everyone!
I confess lurking is what I do best but I especially like the LGF morning coffee clutch. You're special...
Good morning!
363 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:57:27am |
re: #354 Spenser (with an S)
God, no sarc tag? That was kind of pissy, no? Allouette is not asking for your address, she is playing a diction detective game.
No sarc tag, given that for months various people here have demanded my papers in one form or another, questioned my citizenship, asked for my location, and done so despite the various times I've offered answers to those questions. So no, no sarc tag.
Apparently, it hasn't entirely gone out of fashion yet. Given the history, I don't find it innocuous, I don't find it innocent, and I'm bored with it.
It must be my fault though. I only released the short form of my birth certificate here.
364 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:57:49am |
re: #350 MandyManners
Oh, yeah. It's very peaceful today. No ramped-up volume for Madden 2010 or the ringing of that infernal bell. No e-mails every five minutes or a constant stream of IM's.
...it sounds like the crankathon is over, for the time being. ;)
& at least lysol doesn't make demands.
365 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:58:04am |
re: #349 Alouette
How's your beautiful grandson today? Your daughter?
366 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:58:58am |
re: #348 Spenser (with an S)
Stalin and Ho Chi Minh were leftwing. 40million to 300. Do I win?
I said he was not conservative along the lines of anyone we're talking about here.
That's a fact, Jack.
(Why do I have Stripes on my mind today?)
367 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:59:06am |
re: #360 Irish Rose
It's not, but I don't think she should be badgered to disclose that information unless she wants to.
Just saying.
She can just say, I'd prefer not to say, instead of getting all pissy about it.
368 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 6:59:44am |
re: #365 MandyManners
How's your beautiful grandson today? Your daughter?
Next lounge I will post some more pictures. :)
370 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:00:42am |
re: #367 Alouette
She can just say, I'd prefer not to say, instead of getting all pissy about it.
I love the smell of catfight in the morning.
Smells like...
371 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:00:56am |
re: #366 MandyManners
That's a fact, Jack.
(Why do I have Stripes on my mind today?)
"SAHN OF BEETCH! SHEET!"
372 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:01:25am |
re: #364 FrogMarch
...it sounds like the crankathon is over, for the time being. ;)
& at least lysol doesn't make demands.
He was positively giddy about going back to school! He actually bounded out of bed and got dressed without my having to say a word. He didn't whine about having to take his med or put in his contact. Who is he and what did they do with my child?
373 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:02:08am |
374 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:02:11am |
re: #372 MandyManners
He was positively giddy about going back to school! He actually bounded out of bed and got dressed without my having to say a word. He didn't whine about having to take his med or put in his contact. Who is he and what did they do with my child?
As much as kids dislike school, they do get rather sick (no pun intended) of lying in bed all day relatively quickly. At least, that's what I remember.
375 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:02:33am |
re: #366 MandyManners
That's a fact, Jack.
(Why do I have Stripes on my mind today?)
Cut it out! Cut it out! Cut it out! The hell's the matter with you? Stupid! We're all very different people. We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw "Old Yeller?" Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?
376 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:02:37am |
re: #363 iceweasel
How will I know where to come to take you out when my wife dumps me?
(I look kind of like Brad Pitt, well a more handsome version)...
378 | The Left Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:03:27am |
re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How will I know where to come to take you out when my wife dumps me?
(I look kind of like Brad Pitt, well a more handsome version)...
My Bat-Phone will go off, I'm sure. :)
379 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:03:56am |
re: #376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How will I know where to come to take you out when my wife dumps me?
(I look kind of like Brad Pitt, well a more handsome version)...
God, I love the internet...
380 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:04:11am |
re: #356 Irish Rose
Yes, but intellectual honesty is important here. BOTH parties are engaging in vicious, inflammatory rehtoric, exploitation and fearmongering... you can't rebuke one party unless you're willing to rebuke the other.
And while they bicker and argue like grade schoolers, more and more Americans die or have their lives cut short because they don't have access to medication and preventive medicine.
Well, we probably disagree on what to do here, Access can be increased without ruining the entire economy. An answer is needed, (a free market, pro-competition answer... imo). This group of clowns are not even close to a proper solution.
381 | Bloodnok Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:04:16am |
re: #367 Alouette
She can just say, I'd prefer not to say, instead of getting all pissy about it.
I think that was pretty obvious by her first response to you. But keep asking anyway. /
382 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:06:29am |
re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"SAHN OF BEETCH! SHEET!"
I did my Basic at Ft. Knox & got to run the same confidence course that Bill Murray, John Candy, et al. ran.
Death Before Disco!
383 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:07:31am |
re: #382 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
LEAN MEAN FIGHTIN' MACHINE!
384 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:08:27am |
re: #375 Spenser (with an S)
Upding for any Stripes quote.
Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end?
Reminds me of an interview I read once with Stephen King. They asked him what the creepiest movie he'd ever seen was. He replied: Old Yeller. "I mean... who kills the dog? *I* don't even kill the dog!"
385 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:08:38am |
re: #380 FrogMarch
Well, we probably disagree on what to do here, Access can be increased without ruining the entire economy. An answer is needed, (a free market, pro-competition answer... imo). This group of clowns are not even close to a proper solution.
We do need a free-market solution.
Socialized medicine is not the answer.. we have a perfectly viable healthcare system in this country that just needs a bit of tweaking.
Nothing is ever going to be accomplished though, until politicians start behaving like adults instead of poo-flinging toddlers.
387 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:09:05am |
re: #382 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I did my Basic at Ft. Knox & got to run the same confidence course that Bill Murray, John Candy, et al. ran.
Death Before Disco!
You were in the service, BDVM? I didn't know that.
388 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:09:10am |
re: #381 Bloodnok
I think that was pretty obvious by her first response to you. But keep asking anyway. /
I don't give that big of a shit.
389 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:09:15am |
re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He did in Cujo.
Yes, well, I think that might've had something to do with the dog killing everyone else...
391 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:10:01am |
re: #387 Occasional Reader
You were in the service, BDVM? I didn't know that.
ROTC, briefly. I was thrown out for my political beliefs. That & I was stealing hand grenades.
/
392 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:10:12am |
re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He did in Cujo.
If I recall from Cujo the book (and we're talking, "read it maybe 20 years ago", so take with appopriate grain of salt), the books ends with you, the reader, seeing the world from Cujo's rabies-addled mind... but it's not quite clear if he dies by the end.
393 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:10:40am |
re: #388 Alouette
I don't give that big of a shit.
Alouette, ya know I love ya.
It's too early in the morning for a catfight.
Have another cup of coffee, and chill.
394 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:01am |
re: #358 McSpiff
Canada, Australia, New Zealand and India all tend to use UK spellings to some degree. In Canada this is somewhat variable but when in doubt I use the UK spelling. We use colour instead of color, but math instead of maths. I suspect you'll see the same variation in the other countries listed. So that's at least 3 countries iceweasel could be in, born in, have family from or was educated in... other than the UK.
How do you pronounce the last letter of the English alphabet?
395 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:02am |
re: #372 MandyManners
He was positively giddy about going back to school! He actually bounded out of bed and got dressed without my having to say a word. He didn't whine about having to take his med or put in his contact. Who is he and what did they do with my child?
Proof that school is less painful that h1n1.
396 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:07am |
re: #391 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
ROTC, briefly. I was thrown out for my political beliefs. That & I was stealing hand grenades.
/
Well, as long as you share...
BDVM, I'm planning an incipient swing up the East Coast, and might do a Philly stopover. I've blued my nic, drop me a line, maybe we can grab a beer.
397 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:09am |
re: #361 Irish Rose
Hello Irish,
Was that you yesterday thinking about going on the roof to retrieve a loose something or other? I too have respect (fear) of high places. Please find someone who feels confident for completing that chore.
398 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:18am |
399 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:11:24am |
re: #392 Occasional Reader
You may be right... he dies in the movie version (which was creepy), but I don't recall in the book.
WIKI TIME!
400 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:12:30am |
re: #392 Occasional Reader
If I recall from Cujo the book (and we're talking, "read it maybe 20 years ago", so take with appopriate grain of salt), the books ends with you, the reader, seeing the world from Cujo's rabies-addled mind... but it's not quite clear if he dies by the end.
OK, the movie version I believe shows Cujo getting shot in the end. Of course Old Yeller couldn't hold a candle to Cujo in the potential violence category. He was much smaller and probably couldn't have taken out a station wagon.
402 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:13:03am |
re: #399 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
She kills him with a baseball bat.
404 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:13:40am |
I don't know why there is all this discussion of IW's location. Look at her avatar, obviously, she lives at McDonalds.
Sheesh
/
405 | Irish Rose Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:14:00am |
re: #397 Semper Fi
Hello Irish,
Was that you yesterday thinking about going on the roof to retrieve a loose something or other? I too have respect (fear) of high places. Please find someone who feels confident for completing that chore.
Yeah it was me, our early Autumn storm took big piece of vinyl siding off the second story.
Fixing it would require that I crawl out onto a section of roof with a steep slope. I'm not going out there... and I'm not going to let my fiance do it either, even though he wants to try. Some jobs are best hired out.
406 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:14:18am |
re: #400 Spenser (with an S)
OK, the movie version I believe shows Cujo getting shot in the end. Of course Old Yeller couldn't hold a candle to Cujo in the potential violence category. He was much smaller and probably couldn't have taken out a station wagon.
Michael Vick presents: Cujo vs. Old Yeller... this time, it's personal.
407 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:14:30am |
re: #385 Irish Rose
We do need a free-market solution.
Socialized medicine is not the answer.. we have a perfectly viable healthcare system in this country that just needs a bit of tweaking.Nothing is ever going to be accomplished though, until politicians start behaving like adults instead of poo-flinging toddlers.
Yes indeed. I fear the rhetorical goalposts are simply being moved around to inevitably step closer toward socialized medicine. Sprinkle that with the childish "death" talk - and it's not surprising the public is losing interest.
We shall see.
408 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:14:47am |
re: #406 Occasional Reader
Michael Vick presents: Cujo vs. Old Yeller... this time, it's personal.
You just HAD to go there, didn't you?
409 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:15:06am |
I've never seen Old Yeller. I've never seen The Yearling.
Why would I want to see something (on purpose) that is going to make me cry?
410 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:15:11am |
re: #405 Irish Rose
Yeah it was me, our early Autumn storm took big piece of vinyl siding off the second story.
Fixing it would require that I crawl out onto a section of roof with a steep slope. I'm not going out there... and I'm not going to let my fiance do it either, even though he wants to try. Some jobs are best hired out.
Might want to bump your insurance.
411 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:15:42am |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've never seen Old Yeller. I've never seen The Yearling.
Why would I want to see something (on purpose) that is going to make me cry?
Don't read "Where the Red Fern Grows".
412 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:17:24am |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've never seen Old Yeller. I've never seen The Yearling.
Why would I want to see something (on purpose) that is going to make me cry?
Then stay far away from Where the Red Fern Grows
413 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:17:35am |
re: #411 rwdflynavy
Don't read "Where the Red Fern Grows".
Good book, despite all that. I dimly remember reading it way back in the day.
414 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:18:03am |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've never seen Old Yeller. I've never seen The Yearling.
Why would I want to see something (on purpose) that is going to make me cry?
Don't read Dreams From My Father.
//
416 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:18:58am |
417 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:19:03am |
418 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:19:17am |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've never seen Old Yeller. I've never seen The Yearling.
Why would I want to see something (on purpose) that is going to make me cry?
Bad news about I Am Legend, too...
420 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:19:42am |
re: #352 albusteve
kool sekrits...
That's the Israeli equivalent of Glastonbury, UK, in a manner of speaking. Both Safed and Glastonbury are "magical" centres, the former at one time being the residence of Joseph Caro, a noted mystic, and the later being a centre for earth magic and UFOs.
422 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:20:13am |
re: #412 Capitalist Tool
Then stay far away from Where the Red Fern Grows
I remember that from grade school. The teacher read it to us at story time. By the end we were all sobbing.
423 | Pianobuff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:21:06am |
Gore Vidal finds an open seat on the loony wagon and jumps on board...
424 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:21:31am |
re: #405 Irish Rose
Yeah it was me, our early Autumn storm took big piece of vinyl siding off the second story.
Fixing it would require that I crawl out onto a section of roof with a steep slope. I'm not going out there... and I'm not going to let my fiance do it either, even though he wants to try. Some jobs are best hired out.
Good thinking.
425 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:21:38am |
re: #374 thedopefishlives
As much as kids dislike school, they do get rather sick (no pun intended) of lying in bed all day relatively quickly. At least, that's what I remember.
And, of being stuck in their bedrooms until the illness is gone. But, his fever was pretty high the first few days so he had no problem lying down.
427 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:22:26am |
“I am arguing that the president has the time and we have the time,’’ Kerry said
[Link: www.boston.com...]
this is just bullshit...BO has defined this war as too important to lose, a just and right war...wtf is he dithering about?...he needs months to decide what to do?...typical donks, maneuvering for votes
429 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:22:44am |
re: #425 MandyManners
And, of being stuck in their bedrooms until the illness is gone. But, his fever was pretty high the first few days so he had no problem lying down.
Indeed. So you can expect a return of The Kid in short order. I'd be surprised if he wasn't himself by next week.
430 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:23:19am |
re: #422 FrogMarch
I remember that from grade school. The teacher read it to us at story time. By the end we were all sobbing.
Dogs just shouldn't die. Period.
432 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:24:19am |
re: #430 Occasional Reader
Dogs just shouldn't die. Period.
I hope they just move ahead and will be waiting for you again in another realm
434 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:26:01am |
re: #395 FrogMarch
Proof that school is less painful that h1n1.
And, less boring than playing Madden 2010 for 36 hours.
435 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:26:34am |
re: #432 albusteve
I hope they just move ahead and will be waiting for you again in another realm
So many lives as a dog- then maybe move up to politician, or something.
436 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:27:28am |
re: #427 albusteve
“I am arguing that the president has the time and we have the time,’’ Kerry said
If he's got the time, we've got the beer.
/dating myself... from the dark days of American beermaking
437 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:27:47am |
re: #435 Capitalist Tool
So many lives as a dog- then maybe move up to politician, or something.
"up"?
438 | Ojoe Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:27:57am |
re: #385 Irish Rose
we have a perfectly viable healthcare system in this country that just needs a bit of tweaking.
It is a measure of the ego and political klutziness of the man at the top that we now have a shouting match, instead of incremental improvements.
And it is a measure of the foolishness of the electorate that: 1. He was elected and 2. That many people think his way of "reform" makes any sense at all and is worth"fighting" for.
Good morning all !
439 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:28:06am |
re: #429 thedopefishlives
Indeed. So you can expect a return of The Kid in short order. I'd be surprised if he wasn't himself by next week.
Oh, he's back to normal already. This was the sickest he's ever been. It really freaked him out last Thursday and Friday, worrying that he was gonna' die.
441 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:28:32am |
re: #423 Pianobuff
Gore Vidal finds an open seat on the loony wagon and jumps on board...
Last year he famously switched allegiance from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama during the Democratic nomination process for president. Now, he reveals, he regrets his change of heart. How’s Obama doing? “Dreadfully. I was hopeful. He was the most intelligent person we’ve had in that position for a long time. But he’s inexperienced. He has a total inability to understand military matters. He’s acting as if Afghanistan is the magic talisman: solve that and you solve terrorism.” America should leave Afghanistan, he says. “We’ve failed in every other aspect of our effort of conquering the Middle East or whatever you want to call it.” The “War on Terror” was “made up”, Vidal says. “The whole thing was PR, just like ‘weapons of mass destruction’. It has wrecked the airline business, which my father founded in the 1930s. He’d be cutting his wrists. Now when you fly you’re both scared to death and bored to death, a most disagreeable combination.”
Let's see.
Barack is inexperienced. Check.
We want to conquer the middle east. Standard lefty point.
We should get out of Afghanistan. Wrong.
Middle east is all just PR. Wrong.
"When you fly you’re both scared to death and bored to death." He got one thing right.
442 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:28:45am |
re: #435 Capitalist Tool
So many lives as a dog- then maybe move up to politician, or something.
I consider dogs above politicians.
443 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:28:47am |
re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The don't read "Marley and Me"!
Actually I laghed more than cried!
The Movie...SUCKED!!
444 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:29:19am |
re: #436 Occasional Reader
If he's got the time, we've got the beer.
/dating myself... from the dark days of American beermaking
Careful dating yourself; you can go blind from that.
/
445 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:29:45am |
446 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:29:55am |
re: #441 FrogMarch
"When you fly you’re both scared to death and bored to death." He got one thing right
Scared? Nah. Annoyed and hassled? Yes.
447 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:30:07am |
re: #429 thedopefishlives
Don't over do it Mandy,when he's back to his old self,you'll
need the energy!!
448 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:30:09am |
re: #430 Occasional Reader
Dogs just shouldn't die. Period.
But, how will they meet us at Rainbow Bridge if they don't?
[Link: www.petloss.com...]
449 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:30:28am |
450 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:30:52am |
re: #445 albusteve
Ignoring is a sign of affection!!
...Ask my wife!!
451 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:30:57am |
re: #440 Ojoe
And cats also.
I'm one of those seemingly rare people who are both pro-dog and pro-cat.
That is, I swing both ways. Er, so to speak...
452 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:31:00am |
re: #431 laZardo
Have you heard anything about the quake near Sumatra today?
453 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:31:16am |
re: #449 MandyManners
Just that? Then I guess I didn't miss dessert. q:
454 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:31:29am |
It is a measure of the ego and political klutziness of the man at the top that we now have a shouting match, instead of incremental improvements.
And it is a measure of the foolishness of the electorate that: 1. He was elected and 2. That many people think his way of "reform" makes any sense at all and is worth"fighting" for.
Ojoe hits a homer
455 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:31:43am |
re: #448 MandyManners
But, how will they meet us at Rainbow Bridge if they don't?
[Link: www.petloss.com...]
Sorry, they've canceled the Rainbow Bridge project. It wasn't "shovel-ready".
456 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:31:46am |
re: #452 MandyManners
Not as far as I've been paying attention to the news. There's another weather system headed toward the Philippines and there was the Samoan tsunami but that's about it.
457 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:32:16am |
458 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:32:55am |
re: #450 reloadingisnotahobby
Ignoring is a sign of affection!!
...Ask my wife!!
I know...this cat demanded so little, very independent but still slept with me and cuddled on my lap
459 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:32:58am |
re: #439 MandyManners
The kid's immune system has come a long way since last week.
460 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:33:07am |
re: #447 reloadingisnotahobby
Don't over do it Mandy,when he's back to his old self,you'll
need the energy!!
That's one reason why I quarantined him.
461 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:33:35am |
re: #452 MandyManners
Have you heard anything about the quake near Sumatra today?
Aggrieved Earth Mother Gaia is FINALLY striking back against human aggression.
/eco-nut response
462 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:34:00am |
463 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:34:27am |
re: #455 Occasional Reader
Sorry, they've canceled the Rainbow Bridge project. It wasn't "shovel-ready".
*sniff* You wanna' make me cry?
464 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:35:26am |
re: #461 Occasional Reader
Aggrieved Earth Mother Gaia is FINALLY striking back against human aggression.
/eco-nut response
Also jihad- minded clerics. Remember what some of the grand ayatollahs and their ilk had to say about the 2004 tsunami?
465 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:35:48am |
re: #461 Occasional Reader
Plate Tectonics just SUCKS!!
466 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:36:23am |
467 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:36:51am |
re: #449 MandyManners
A feast and an orgy.
Miles Gloriosus: Arrange food, drink, entertainment, and a sit-down orgy for fourteen.
-A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
468 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:36:53am |
OK, I admit my naivete. WTH does "flounce" mean within the context of LGF?
469 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:37:14am |
Are the small craft and high surf advisories due to the quake yesterday?
[Link: www.weather.gov...]
470 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:37:25am |
So I'm talking with this guy who says that illegals shouldn't be denied health care, and that the risk of "backing up" hospitals "doesn't matter."
Hurrr.
471 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:37:28am |
re: #466 Capitalist Tool
Excellent older History Channel last night about the San Andreas..
Very interesting!
472 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:37:47am |
re: #456 laZardo
Not as far as I've been paying attention to the news. There's another weather system headed toward the Philippines and there was the Samoan tsunami but that's about it.
7.9 initial estimate.
473 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:38:02am |
And a lovely good morning to everyone from our Wild, Wonderful, and Wacky nation's capital... (and y'all thought [Link: WWW...] World Wide Web...)
474 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:38:04am |
re: #468 bofhell
OK, I admit my naivete. WTH does "flounce" mean within the context of LGF?
When someone breaks into a right-wing rant and lashes out at Charles for "going liberal" or something thereof, getting them kicked off the site.
475 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:38:14am |
re: #468 bofhell
OK, I admit my naivete. WTH does "flounce" mean within the context of LGF?
Making a big showy puffy emotional indignant plea to get your ass thrown out.
476 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:38:39am |
re: #464 Capitalist Tool
Also jihad- minded clerics. Remember what some of the grand ayatollahs and their ilk had to say about the 2004 tsunami?
I still remember people saying that Hurricane Katrina looked like a fetus, and it was god smiting us over abortion...
477 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:39:22am |
re: #459 Semper Fi
The kid's immune system has come a long way since last week.
He's a tough nut. Between getting H1N1 virus and the nasal mist vaccine that is supposed to last a long time and protect against several strains, I think this winter is looking good for him.
478 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:39:41am |
re: #464 Capitalist Tool
Also jihad- minded clerics. Remember what some of the grand ayatollahs and their ilk had to say about the 2004 tsunami?
Oh, you don't have to be a jihadist to think that the 2004 tsunami was some sort of just retribution... you can be a wonderful "progressive" who gets an op-ed column in the New York Times.
479 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:39:49am |
re: #476 McSpiff
I still remember people saying that Hurricane Katrina looked like a fetus, and it was god smiting us over abortion...
You mean it wasn't that, after all?
480 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:40:27am |
re: #461 Occasional Reader
Aggrieved Earth Mother Gaia is FINALLY striking back against human aggression.
/eco-nut response
I woudn't be surprised if someone tried to blame quakes on drilling for oil.
And, what about those who don't believe in plate tectonics?
The mind. It boggles.
481 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:41:11am |
re: #467 Occasional Reader
Miles Gloriosus: Arrange food, drink, entertainment, and a sit-down orgy for fourteen.
-A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
Who needs entertainment at an orgy?
482 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:42:00am |
re: #475 Capitalist Tool
Making a big showy puffy emotional indignant plea to get your ass thrown out.
It's the emotional equivalent of going supernova, except that there's no superdense remnant after the explosion. The superdense remnant in this case is the cause of the explosion.
483 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:42:14am |
re: #479 Capitalist Tool
You mean it wasn't that, after all?
Na, turned out George W. Bush was just hating black people.
/hated Kayne before it was cool.
484 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:42:48am |
re: #480 MandyManners
Really!
So just what pissed her so much...oh ..say 11 million
years ago???
Dinosaur aggression???
485 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:42:56am |
re: #480 MandyManners
I woudn't be surprised if someone tried to blame quakes on drilling for oil.
And, what about those who don't believe in plate tectonics?
The mind. It boggles.
Actually, several people blamed the quakes in Iran just a few years ago on exactly that. Geologists were not among them.
486 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:42:59am |
re: #474 laZardo
When someone breaks into a right-wing rant and lashes out at Charles for "going liberal" or something thereof, getting them kicked off the site.
That was the original meaning. Unfortunately (IMHO), the term has since been watered-down to mean anyone who says "goodbye" in any form, however politely.
487 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:43:04am |
re: #476 McSpiff
I still remember people saying that Hurricane Katrina looked like a fetus, and it was god smiting us over abortion...
If the Misissippi river were viewed as the alimentary canal of North America, then Katrina would appear to have been a handful of Charmin.
488 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:44:04am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
another beauty queen goes down...this industry needs more oversight
490 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:44:25am |
re: #482 John Neverbend
It's the emotional equivalent of going supernova, except that there's no superdense remnant after the explosion. The superdense remnant in this case is the cause of the explosion.
And usually the superdense remnant ends up disappearing from the LGF universe and reappearing in a bizarre, twisted universe where the inhabitants spend most of their time complaining about how bad the universe they left had gotten.
491 | Flyers1974 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:44:31am |
re: #479 Capitalist Tool
You mean it wasn't that, after all?
These things take years to sort out. I think the smiting was only one of several factors.
492 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:44:34am |
493 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:44:38am |
re: #484 reloadingisnotahobby
Really!
So just what pissed her so much...oh ..say 11 million
years ago???
Dinosaur aggression???
Knowing that we'd turn those noble beasts into oil to run our wicked cars.
494 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:45:12am |
re: #476 McSpiff
I still remember people saying that Hurricane Katrina looked like a fetus, and it was god smiting us over abortion...
There's a lotta churches down in Louisiana. How do they know it wasn't God smiting creationists for being stupid and insulting to His creation and abilities?
495 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:45:27am |
re: #485 SixDegrees
Actually, several people blamed the quakes in Iran just a few years ago on exactly that. Geologists were not among them.
Well, if an earthquake hits any Iranian nuclear facility, I'll say that G-d is getting them.
496 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:45:44am |
re: #490 Kosh's Shadow
And usually the superdense remnant ends up disappearing from the LGF universe and reappearing in a bizarre, twisted universe where the inhabitants spend most of their time complaining about how bad the universe they left had gotten.
Isn't cosmology wonderful?
497 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:45:55am |
re: #446 Occasional Reader
Scared? Nah. Annoyed and hassled? Yes.
I feel good when we land, especially after a turbulent flight. Other than a few bad experiences (mostly due to weather) I cannot say that I've been too annoyed.
A few years ago I flew to Orlando to visit family (and take my first trip to Disney World!) The boarding process was about over and we were about to close the door and push back - when this woman walked to the front of the plane. She was clearly freaked out; white as a ghost and shaking. They let her off the plane. It was clear she was having a panic attack. To my horror, her two kids and the father got up and left too. (My guess was their vacation was now ruined). We landed safely.
My problem with flying? I have to force myself to stop imagining the plane colliding with something in mid-air. It's nuts.
498 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:46:09am |
499 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:46:33am |
re: #485 SixDegrees
Actually, several people blamed the quakes in Iran just a few years ago on exactly that. Geologists were not among them.
I scanned OR's link in No. 478. Looniness doesn't begin to describe it. First, the write cites the Chinese Year of the Monkey. Then, it gets really silly.
500 | bosforus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:46:34am |
Morning lizards!
Storm hit last night in the Salt Lake valley and we got some snow up in the mountains!
Maybe hard to see behind the clouds but here's Mt. Timpanogos webcam from BYU.
501 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:46:42am |
re: #488 albusteve
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
another beauty queen goes down...this industry needs more oversight
I think they'll have plenty of volunteers to oversee the beauty queen industry.
I would but I don't think my wife would like it.
/
502 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:46:46am |
re: #494 SixDegrees
There's a lotta churches down in Louisiana. How do they know it wasn't God smiting creationists for being stupid and insulting to His creation and abilities?
if God get into a smiting mood, NOLA would be a perfect target...I love that town!
504 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:48:29am |
re: #497 FrogMarch
My problem with flying? I have to force myself to stop imagining the plane colliding with something in mid-air.
The only part that still gets me slighly tense in landing. It always seems impossible that this block of multiple tons of metal screaming through the air is going to somehow be set GENTLY down on the ground. (And on a recent flight into Buenos Aires from Asunción, we did do a nice little "bounce" on landing... that was, uh, exciting!)
505 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:48:57am |
506 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:49:07am |
507 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:49:24am |
re: #493 MandyManners
I'm still in Therapy for that guilt!!!
Thanks for bringing it up!!
/
508 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:49:37am |
re: #475 Capitalist Tool
Making a big showy puffy emotional indignant plea to get your ass thrown out.
Does anybody here (or their children) play the online computer game called Toontown? I've watched my son playing, and he's pretty good. It seems to revolve around your character's destroying "Cogs" who are malevolent robot-types. One or more players can engage them in battle, and when the robots give up the ghost, a light on their chest starts flashing, the Cog assumes a position consistent with extreme constipation, then starts to whirl around and finally explodes. This would seem to me to correspond to a flounce in a robotic sort of way.
509 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:49:46am |
re: #500 bosforus
Morning lizards!
Storm hit last night in the Salt Lake valley and we got some snow up in the mountains!
Maybe hard to see behind the clouds but here's Mt. Timpanogos webcam from BYU.
Oh great, I bet it's headed here.
510 | Pianobuff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:50:06am |
From Forbes:
Is California moving to the center?
You don't have to be a genius, or a conservative, to recognize that California's experiment with ultra-progressive politics has gone terribly wrong. Although much of the country has suffered during the recession, California's decline has been particularly precipitous--and may have important political consequences.
Outside Michigan, California now suffers the highest rate of unemployment of all the major states, with a post-World War II record of 12.2%. This statistic does not really touch the depth of the pain being felt, particularly among the middle and working classes, many of whom have become discouraged and are no longer counted in the job market...
...Eventually, the Democrats may rue their failure to run a pro-business, pro-growth candidate, particularly one with roots in the interior region. This oversight could cost them votes among, say, Latinos, who have been far harder hit by the recession than the more affluent (and overwhelmingly white) coastal progressives epitomized by Brown and Newsom. Along with independents, roughly one-fifth of the electorate, Latinos could prove the critical element in the state's purplization.This, of course, depends on the Republicans developing an attractive pro-growth alternative. In recent years, the party's emphasis on conservative cultural issues and xenophobic anti-immigrant agitation has hurt the GOP in the increasingly socially liberal and ethnically diverse California.
More at the link.
511 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:51:26am |
re: #497 FrogMarch
I feel good when we land, especially after a turbulent flight. Other than a few bad experiences (mostly due to weather) I cannot say that I've been too annoyed.
A few years ago I flew to Orlando to visit family (and take my first trip to Disney World!) The boarding process was about over and we were about to close the door and push back - when this woman walked to the front of the plane. She was clearly freaked out; white as a ghost and shaking. They let her off the plane. It was clear she was having a panic attack. To my horror, her two kids and the father got up and left too. (My guess was their vacation was now ruined). We landed safely.
My problem with flying? I have to force myself to stop imagining the plane colliding with something in mid-air. It's nuts.
Why does anyone worry about a plane crashing. If something like that happens, it quick, it's over, it's the most exciting ride of your life...
And you get to go to heaven.
512 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:51:39am |
re: #509 Walter L. Newton
It's blowing and getting dark here!
Temp dropped from 53 at 6 am to 47 by 8am!
I'm sure you'll see it by weekend!
513 | bosforus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:52:11am |
re: #509 Walter L. Newton
Where are you? Idaho? Wyoming? I believe the storm is heading north/northeast.
514 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:52:16am |
re: #501 Kosh's Shadow
I think they'll have plenty of volunteers to oversee the beauty queen industry.
I would but I don't think my wife would like it.
/
Plus, you're still under that court order, aren't you?
/
515 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:52:51am |
516 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:52:57am |
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
even though the recession is"very likely over"...consumer confidence is at an all time low and unemployment continues to rise...the feds just play word games
517 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:53:03am |
re: #468 bofhell
OK, I admit my naivete. WTH does "flounce" mean within the context of LGF?
Suicide by Stinky.
518 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:53:22am |
re: #504 Occasional Reader
The only part that still gets me slighly tense in landing. It always seems impossible that this block of multiple tons of metal screaming through the air is going to somehow be set GENTLY down on the ground. (And on a recent flight into Buenos Aires from Asunción, we did do a nice little "bounce" on landing... that was, uh, exciting!)
It is amazing.
During take-off and landing I like to listen to air traffic control. Somehow I find it comforting.
"509 heavy - ready for take-off" Did they just say heavy? WTF!
519 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:54:02am |
520 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:54:03am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
If something like that happens, it quick, it's over,
Well... not necessarily. I have a colleague who was nearly crippled in a plane crash. It took months and months of rehab before he could walk normally.
521 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:54:39am |
re: #513 bosforus
Where are you? Idaho? Wyoming? I believe the storm is heading north/northeast.
8200 feet in the Colorado Rockies.
522 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:54:57am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
Why does anyone worry about a plane crashing. If something like that happens, it quick, it's over, it's the most exciting ride of your life...
And you get to go to heaven.
That's what you think.
I have this fear of going down over the ocean, surviving the crash, and being left to die slowly in cold water. or eaten by sharks.
523 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:55:23am |
re: #518 FrogMarch
It is amazing.
During take-off and landing I like to listen to air traffic control. Somehow I find it comforting.
"509 heavy - ready for take-off" Did they just say heavy? WTF!
"heavy" refers to larger aircraft; originally 747's, but including DC-10's, 777's, etc.
The problem is the wake vortex is larger.
I wonder how they refer to Airbus 380's?
524 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:55:36am |
re: #512 reloadingisnotahobby
It's blowing and getting dark here!
Temp dropped from 53 at 6 am to 47 by 8am!
I'm sure you'll see it by weekend!
"You have to understand, it isn't Global Warming, it's Climate Change."
Actual extract from actual conversation.
525 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:56:03am |
re: #513 bosforus
Where are you? Idaho? Wyoming? I believe the storm is heading north/northeast.
He stands facing the wind, his hair blowing gently backward. He quietly says, "I know. I know."
526 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:56:15am |
re: #520 Occasional Reader
Well... not necessarily. I have a colleague who was nearly crippled in a plane crash. It took months and months of rehab before he could walk normally.
Ok, understood, it happens, rare occasions (and sorry about your friend). But I was really being serious. Most of the time, it's a total wipe out, there is nothing you can do about it, and worrying is a real waste of time.
528 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:56:36am |
re: #518 FrogMarch
"509 heavy - ready for take-off" Did they just say heavy? WTF!
"Frank, the fuel light's on! We're all going to die! Oh, wait... my mistake. That's the intercom light."
-The Far Side
529 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
Why does anyone worry about a plane crashing. If something like that happens, it quick, it's over, it's the most exciting ride of your life...
And you get to go to heaven.
And someone sitting near a fat bastard gets to have sex!
530 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:04am |
re: #522 FrogMarch
That's what you think.
I have this fear of going down over the ocean, surviving the crash, and being left to die slowly in cold water. or eaten by sharks.
You have that fear, but is that a rational fear? Most plane crashes are over in seconds.
531 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:15am |
re: #523 Kosh's Shadow
"heavy" refers to larger aircraft; originally 747's, but including DC-10's, 777's, etc.
The problem is the wake vortex is larger.
I wonder how they refer to Airbus 380's?
Grossly overweight?
532 | bosforus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:18am |
re: #521 Walter L. Newton
I'm not sure. I'm having trouble finding info on the storm's direction.
533 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:41am |
534 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:41am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
"Frank, the fuel light's on! We're all going to die! Oh, wait... my mistake. That's the intercom light."
-The Far Side
"What's that mountain goat doing way up here in the clouds?"
-The Far Side
535 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:57:57am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
"Frank, the fuel light's on! We're all going to die! Oh, wait... my mistake. That's the intercom light."
-The Far Side
LOL! The Far Side- that's great.
536 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:04am |
re: #508 John Neverbend
Does anybody here (or their children) play the online computer game called Toontown? I've watched my son playing, and he's pretty good. It seems to revolve around your character's destroying "Cogs" who are malevolent robot-types. One or more players can engage them in battle, and when the robots give up the ghost, a light on their chest starts flashing, the Cog assumes a position consistent with extreme constipation, then starts to whirl around and finally explodes. This would seem to me to correspond to a flounce in a robotic sort of way.
TOONTOWN IS FANTASTIC! In the early days of my divorce, I would play that with my kids each day for about thirty minutes. Great way to maintain a bond (as part of a larger group of activities) on a daily basis despite not being physically present with them!
537 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:20am |
re: #530 Walter L. Newton
You have that fear, but is that a rational fear? Most plane crashes are over in seconds.
It's said that after the plane split up over Lockerbie after the explosion, some of the passengers were alive until impact, facing indescribable wind pressure as the plane plummeted to the ground.
Over in seconds, but seconds one where one would be wishing to die.
538 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:23am |
re: #507 reloadingisnotahobby
I'm still in Therapy for that guilt!!!
Thanks for bringing it up!!
/
Book an extra session for today?
539 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:31am |
re: #511 Walter L. Newton
Why does anyone worry about a plane crashing. If something like that happens, it quick, it's over, it's the most exciting ride of your life...
And you get to go to heaven.
A surprising % of plane crashes never involve death. Just things like failed landing gear, running out of runway, etc. From a quick google, about 53% of controlled ditchings (that is, the pilot still has some degree of control) result in no fatalities. In accidents with fatalities, on average about 25% of the passengers survived. Taken from [Link: www.planecrashinfo.com...]
540 | reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:58:57am |
541 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:59:08am |
re: #523 Kosh's Shadow
"heavy" refers to larger aircraft; originally 747's, but including DC-10's, 777's, etc.
The problem is the wake vortex is larger.
I wonder how they refer to Airbus 380's?
ahhh. I thought it meant the plane was really loaded up with heavy bags and mail and all sorts of heavy fruit.
542 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:59:13am |
"We are going to keep at this and at this and at this until we succeed because we believe in it so strongly," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
the blind leading the blind...to hell with public opinion
543 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:59:21am |
re: #522 FrogMarch
That's what you think.
I have this fear of going down over the ocean, surviving the crash, and being left to die slowly in cold water. or eaten by sharks.
Dang.
544 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:59:25am |
re: #533 MandyManners
To An Athlete Dying Young...
Can you imagine a 80 year old James Dean? Elvis? JFK?
545 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 7:59:39am |
re: #532 bosforus
I'm not sure. I'm having trouble finding info on the storm's direction.
Oh, my comment was sort of rhetorical, I am looking at a forecast, it's headed here, we will probably get hit by some of it tonight/tomorrow.
I've been in Colorado 20 years, but I have not had the pleasure of having to deal with a snowpack on the road at 8200 feet. Just moved up hill a few months ago, so, sort of looking forward/not looking forward to my first big one.
We've had up to 8 inches already, but to warm to stay on the road yet, and to warm to stick around on the ground more than a day.
546 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:00:31am |
re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To An Athlete Dying Young...
Can you imagine a 80 year old James Dean? Elvis? JFK?
Imagine the effort to give Elvis a hip replacement that still moves like that.
547 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:00:38am |
548 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:19am |
re: #423 Pianobuff
Gore Vidal finds an open seat on the loony wagon and jumps on board...
He's been saying that since Bush.
549 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:28am |
550 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:34am |
re: #537 laZardo
It's said that after the plane split up over Lockerbie after the explosion, some of the passengers were alive until impact, facing indescribable wind pressure as the plane plummeted to the ground.
Over in seconds, but seconds one where one would be wishing to die.
Conjuring images of shooting star- like smoke trails over Texas
551 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:44am |
552 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:51am |
re: #523 Kosh's Shadow
"heavy" refers to larger aircraft; originally 747's, but including DC-10's, 777's, etc.
The problem is the wake vortex is larger.
I wonder how they refer to Airbus 380's?
Dunno about the 380, but the Concorde was "Speedbird" When I had an office further out I-66 years ago, it was in one of the taller buildings and looked out to the West. The Concorde would routine fly by. Say what you will, she was a beautiful plane in-flight.
553 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:01:53am |
re: #537 laZardo
It's said that after the plane split up over Lockerbie after the explosion, some of the passengers were alive until impact, facing indescribable wind pressure as the plane plummeted to the ground.
Over in seconds, but seconds one where one would be wishing to die.
Or, to continue this wonderfully cheerful conversation, there's KAL007 (shot down by the fookin' commie Soviets), in which, IIRC, they actually found short, scrippled farewell notes written by passengers who had enough time as the crippled plane plunged towards the sea to write them.
554 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:03:11am |
re: #528 Occasional Reader
"Frank, the fuel light's on! We're all going to die! Oh, wait... my mistake. That's the intercom light."
-The Far Side
Always appreciate a Far Side reference. I'll have to add that one to my clipboard.
555 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:03:14am |
re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
To An Athlete Dying Young...
Can you imagine a 80 year old James Dean? Elvis? JFK?
Well, look at Elizabeth Taylor!
556 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:03:24am |
re: #530 Walter L. Newton
You have that fear, but is that a rational fear? Most plane crashes are over in seconds.
How do you know?
557 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:03:25am |
558 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:03:54am |
559 | Ojoe Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:04:12am |
re: #539 McSpiff
Even when the wings are gone you can still use the rudder. Survivors never give up.
560 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:04:20am |
re: #542 albusteve
"We are going to keep at this and at this and at this until we succeed because we believe in it so strongly," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
the blind leading the blind...to hell with public opinion
Understand, please- these fine fellows are paid to lead not get themselves re- elected by pandering to the latest crazed notion of a shrill populace.
561 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:04:53am |
re: #553 Occasional Reader
Or, to continue this wonderfully cheerful conversation, there's KAL007 (shot down by the fookin' commie Soviets), in which, IIRC, they actually found short, scrippled farewell notes written by passengers who had enough time as the crippled plane plunged towards the sea to write them.
My point is still, most plane crashes are not being shot down, or breaking up due to a bomb or any of those other "slow" crashes. The common plain vanilla crashes are over in seconds, and that's the sort that most people would encounter (for a few seconds).
562 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:06:04am |
re: #427 albusteve
“I am arguing that the president has the time and we have the time,’’ Kerry said
[Link: www.boston.com...]
this is just bullshit...BO has defined this war as too important to lose, a just and right war...wtf is he dithering about?...he needs months to decide what to do?...typical donks, maneuvering for votes
I'm convinced Kerry suffered deep psychological trauma from his military killings in Vietnam. I've read several of his own writings and I think it really bothered him jumping off his boat, jumping over a log, and shooting a young vietnamese soldier, who even though he was a soldier and armed, was not a threat at that immediate time. I think it's really colored his world view ever since trying to reconcile his bloodlust at the time with his uncomfortableness. You can tell guides all his policy decisions.
563 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:06:45am |
re: #536 bofhell
TOONTOWN IS FANTASTIC! In the early days of my divorce, I would play that with my kids each day for about thirty minutes. Great way to maintain a bond (as part of a larger group of activities) on a daily basis despite not being physically present with them!
Well that's interesting. I hadn't thought about it in that way. Do you agree, however, that the prior to spinning round and exploding, the Cogs appear to be trying to push out a particularly obstinate turd?
564 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:07:43am |
re: #549 MandyManners
I could dig it. Gimme' saphires and pearls, though.
Did you have a dream about the King of Sweden?
He gave you everything you'd been needin'?
565 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:07:55am |
re: #561 Walter L. Newton
My point is still, most plane crashes are not being shot down, or breaking up due to a bomb or any of those other "slow" crashes. The common plain vanilla crashes are over in seconds, and that's the sort that most people would encounter (for a few seconds).
Except the actual statistics disagree. Theres a 47% everyone will live in a plane crash, and even in 53% of crashes where people die, you still have a 25% chance of survival. Essentially your odds of living through a plane crash are, by my math: 47%+ 53%(0.25) = 60.25%. So for most people, it's not over quickly.It's not over at all.
566 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:08:05am |
re: #562 gregb
The Senate is no place to animate your PTSS.
567 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:08:27am |
568 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:08:38am |
569 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:08:41am |
fascinating stuff...I'd visit Rome in a heartbeat
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
570 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:08:49am |
re: #564 Occasional Reader
Did you have a dream about the King of Sweden?
He gave you everything you'd been needin'?
What girl wouldn't want to be Swedish royalty?
572 | Joo-LiZ Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:09:01am |
Reuters has been highlighting the joy of family members at the news that their relative Fatima Younis Zaq may be released as part of a [imo, stupid!] deal in which the Israeli government will release 20 Female prisoners for evidence that Gilad Schalit is still alive.
In the photo caption, we would have no idea why she was in prison in the first place.
A relative of Fatima Younis Zaq sits in front of her picture at Zaq's home in Gaza city September 30, 2009. Israel will free 20 Palestinian women, one of them Younis Zaq, from jail as early as Friday in exchange for a videotape from Hamas proving an Israeli soldier held in the Gaza Strip since 2006 is alive, officials on both sides said on Wednesday.
It is only far down in the actual article (if you searched for it) that you see:
One of the women set for release, Fatima Younis Zaq, gave birth in jail to a son, who is currently with her. An Islamic Jihad member, Zaq was arrested in the Israeli-occupied West Bank on suspicion of planning a suicide bombing.
[emphasis added]
Here is the original Ministry of Foreign Affairs news release on her arrest:
In the wake of precise intelligence information, the Israel Security Agency (ISA), on 20 May 2007, at the Erez crossing, arrested two Palestinian women, who admitted to planning to perpetrate a double suicide bombing in crowded places (restaurants, events halls or any locality with a large concentration of soldiers) in Tel Aviv and Netanya. They further admitted that they were guided by Islamic Jihad, which exploited Israel's humanitarian policy - the two had received medical entry permits into Israel under false pretenses.Fatima Younes Hassan Zaq, 39, a resident of Gaza, mother of eight children and pregnant with her ninth, had been responsible for an Islamic Jihad Gaza women's labor office for four years. She had been in contact with Islamic Jihad terrorists and coordinated contacts on their behalf with women who had volunteered to be suicide bombers.
573 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:09:15am |
re: #565 McSpiff
Except the actual statistics disagree. Theres a 47% everyone will live in a plane crash, and even in 53% of crashes where people die, you still have a 25% chance of survival. Essentially your odds of living through a plane crash are, by my math: 47%+ 53%(0.25) = 60.25%. So for most people, it's not over quickly.It's not over at all.
Where did you get those stats and in general, is that for ALL plane crashes, or 747 sized consumer planes?
I'm not denying your figures, I just want to know.
574 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:09:39am |
re: #561 Walter L. Newton
My point is still, most plane crashes are not being shot down, or breaking up due to a bomb or any of those other "slow" crashes. The common plain vanilla crashes are over in seconds, and that's the sort that most people would encounter (for a few seconds).
Oh yeah? Well, what about Steve Austin, astronaut? A man barely alive?
/
575 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:10:21am |
re: #561 Walter L. Newton
My point is still, most plane crashes are not being shot down, or breaking up due to a bomb or any of those other "slow" crashes. The common plain vanilla crashes are over in seconds, and that's the sort that most people would encounter (for a few seconds).
I was on a flight from Portland, OR to Los Angeles. About 10 minutes before arrival, they announced that they couldn't get the landing gear down. About 8 minutes later, they announced that they HAD gotten the landing gear down.
Those were some long minutes, during which I contemplated whether the fact that the Governor of Oregon was on board made any difference whatsoever. I concluded it did not. But I got his autograph on my boarding pass at the baggage pick up. He wrote, "We made it! (s) Vic Atiyeh."
576 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:10:24am |
re: #564 Occasional Reader
Did you have a dream about the King of Sweden?
He gave you everything you'd been needin'?
Hi-de-hi-de-ho
577 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:10:29am |
Good Day, LGF.
I think anything less than a day could reasonably be considered as an extremely quick death, especially when compared to the long-suffering, protracted, degenerative, near-vegetative deaths that so many seniors experience these days.
Thanks to our wonderful medical technologies.
578 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:10:55am |
re: #574 Occasional Reader
The only thing I wanted for my birthday in second grade was a Six Million Dollar Man action figure. I got it and achieved Nirvana.
580 | Guanxi88 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:11:15am |
re: #564 Occasional Reader
Did you have a dream about the King of Sweden?
He gave you everything you'd been needin'?
He gave you a home built of gold and steel
A diamond car with platinum wheels
581 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:11:37am |
re: #568 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
FTFM
Laughing, I was just going to google that. I'm guessing the M stands for me. :-)
582 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:11:57am |
re: #574 Occasional Reader
Well, we could re-build him, IIRC.
583 | sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:12:13am |
re: #565 McSpiff
Except the actual statistics disagree. Theres a 47% everyone will live in a plane crash, and even in 53% of crashes where people die, you still have a 25% chance of survival. Essentially your odds of living through a plane crash are, by my math: 47%+ 53%(0.25) = 60.25%. So for most people, it's not over quickly.It's not over at all.
Sorry, but thats bad math. You cannot add the two "statistics". They are seperate variables. In the 1st you're stating that out of every 100 plane crashes 47% of the time everyone will survive
In scenario #2 out of the 53 plane crashes (out of a hundred) you have a 1 in 4 chance of living, meaning if you are in a crash that has survivors 75% of people die
584 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:12:47am |
585 | BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:03am |
586 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:10am |
re: #552 bofhell
Dunno about the 380, but the Concorde was "Speedbird" When I had an office further out I-66 years ago, it was in one of the taller buildings and looked out to the West. The Concorde would routine fly by. Say what you will, she was a beautiful plane in-flight.
Speedbird is the call-sign for any British Airways flight. I know this, because I sat in the cockpit of a 747-400 during the landing at JFK in 1993. The pilot, co-pilot and ground control repeatedly used this call.
587 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:29am |
588 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:37am |
re: #573 Walter L. Newton
Where did you get those stats and in general, is that for ALL plane crashes, or 747 sized consumer planes?
I'm not denying your figures, I just want to know.
Raw stats are here [Link: www.ntsb.gov...] . I was too lazy to actually work out my %'s, so i used the page linked in #539. Those states are for flights with more than 10 passengers I do believe.
589 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:41am |
re: #563 John Neverbend
Well that's interesting. I hadn't thought about it in that way. Do you agree, however, that the prior to spinning round and exploding, the Cogs appear to be trying to push out a particularly obstinate turd?
I hadn't given that much thought, but yes, I suppose it could be viewed as such.
Of course, that is perilously close to yesterday's Old Jews Telling Jokes (and in this instance, potentially NSFW)
590 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:45am |
re: #578 rwdflynavy
The only thing I wanted for my birthday in second grade was a Six Million Dollar Man action figure. I got it and achieved Nirvana.
Question: How did the Six Million Dollar man get any cardiovascular exercise? Think about it.
591 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:45am |
re: #580 Guanxi88
He gave you a home built of gold and steel
A diamond car with platinum wheels
But we must note
"He took her down to Chinatown
Where the learned to kick the gong around"
is about smoking opium.
And here's another one
592 | Ben Hur Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:48am |
2 US soldiers killed in Philippines blast
MANILA, Philippines – Two U.S. soldiers were killed Tuesday in a roadside bomb believed planted by al-Qaida-linked militants, U.S. officials said. They were the first American troops to die in an attack in the Philippines in seven years.
A Filipino marine also was killed and two others were wounded in the blast on Jolo island, a poor, predominantly Muslim region where the Americans have been providing combat training and weapons to Filipino troops battling the Abu Sayyaf militants. The Philippine military suspects the group was behind the attack.
593 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:13:53am |
re: #586 John Neverbend
Did the pilot ask you if you liked "Gladiator Movies"?
595 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:14:27am |
re: #571 Ojoe
My friend flew us out to Catalina Island for lunch one day. About 5 feet off the ground before landing, the whole small plane lifted up 10 feet vertical and turned completely sideways from a crosswind. My friend, who was flying his dad's plane, had it completely undercontrol, but slammed it down really hard and was very apologetic. I teased him about it endlessly, but I was secretly glad he was quick enough of thought not to kill us all.
596 | Kosh's Shadow Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:15:00am |
re: #590 Occasional Reader
Question: How did the Six Million Dollar man get any cardiovascular exercise? Think about it.
And isn't it amazing that the rest of him, the non-cybernetic part, could support the weight of stuff he lifted using the cybernetic parts?
597 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:15:27am |
re: #583 sattv4u2
Sorry, but thats bad math. You cannot add the two "statistics". They are seperate variables. In the 1st you're stating that out of every 100 plane crashes 47% of the time everyone will survive
In scenario #2 out of the 53 plane crashes (out of a hundred) you have a 1 in 4 chance of living, meaning if you are in a crash that has survivors 75% of people die
And I still want to see the actual breakdown of those stats. As I have said above, I am talking about plain vanilla crashes, of consumer planes, like 747. Not on the ground mechanical problems, not two seater's or small private planes. And I am not even talking about the combined problems.
I'm talking about all those standard passenger planes that are up there every day, with 200-300 people in them, if they are going to crash, it's usually over.
So what's to worry about?
599 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:16:37am |
re: #597 Walter L. Newton
Ok Walter. Using different definitions from the NTSB about what a plane is, and what a crash is... yes. You're probably right.
600 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:16:49am |
re: #584 FrogMarch
My G-D.
The last one on there is unreal.
The 777 looks like it's imitating a Harrier!
602 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:18:09am |
re: #586 John Neverbend
Speedbird is the call-sign for any British Airways flight. I know this, because I sat in the cockpit of a 747-400 during the landing at JFK in 1993. The pilot, co-pilot and ground control repeatedly used this call.
I sit corrected. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
603 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:18:24am |
The lefties are still fuming over the public option vote yesterday. Expect another drop in Obama's poll #'s.
604 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:01am |
re: #588 McSpiff
Raw stats are here [Link: www.ntsb.gov...] . I was too lazy to actually work out my %'s, so i used the page linked in #539. Those states are for flights with more than 10 passengers I do believe.
I thought so. As I mentioned above, I am talking about the 200-300 everyday plain vanilla aircraft that flies thousands of flights a day.
Not small local commercial flights, 10 passenger planes that loose a wheel on the runway or overshoots the runway and ends up in some bushes.
I'm talking about the occasional 747 or Airbus that drops out of the sky. Your chances of walking away is almost nil.
So, what, me worry?
605 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:30am |
re: #604 Walter L. Newton
I thought so. As I mentioned above, I am talking about the 200-300 everyday plain vanilla aircraft that flies thousands of flights a day.
Not small local commercial flights, 10 passenger planes that loose a wheel on the runway or overshoots the runway and ends up in some bushes.
I'm talking about the occasional 747 or Airbus that drops out of the sky. Your chances of walking away is almost nil.
So, what, me worry?
200-300 PASSENGER (typing to fast)
606 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:31am |
re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Did the pilot ask you if you liked "Gladiator Movies"?
No, but he did ask me if I'd ever hung around a gymnasium.
607 | Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:35am |
I'm startign to feel that LGF is like the Muppet Show somedays. Even the two old guys in the balcony are well represented by the flouncers, but Statler and Waldorf are funnier.
608 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:37am |
re: #594 Ojoe
The aircrafts are designed to take it.
777's rock.
Many years ago I was on a flight back to Denver in the middle of a huge snow storm. We were diverted to Colorado Springs. It was the scariest landing of my life. It felt like the wind had control of the plane, and like wind-shear was going to slam us into the ground. First time ever I had the barf bag out.
609 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:19:58am |
re: #590 Occasional Reader
Question: How did the Six Million Dollar man get any cardiovascular exercise? Think about it.
Bionic orgasms?
610 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:20:00am |
re: #588 McSpiff
Raw stats are here [Link: www.ntsb.gov...] . I was too lazy to actually work out my %'s, so i used the page linked in #539. Those states are for flights with more than 10 passengers I do believe.
Upding for going to the actual stats. Lazy? Too many people don't go past what news media articles they can find.
611 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:20:12am |
re: #562 gregb
I'm convinced Kerry suffered deep psychological trauma from his military killings in Vietnam. I've read several of his own writings and I think it really bothered him jumping off his boat, jumping over a log, and shooting a young vietnamese soldier, who even though he was a soldier and armed, was not a threat at that immediate time. I think it's really colored his world view ever since trying to reconcile his bloodlust at the time with his uncomfortableness. You can tell guides all his policy decisions.
You may be on to something.
It may be slightly different than suppositions of Kerry's abject guilt, though.
One finds after killing men in a survival situation, that guilt and remorse are further down the list of emotions than is the joy of triumph and of being alive along with your brothers- in- arms. One is actually surprised at (and has to personally resolve,) the lack of guilt. The major remorse experienced is a sort of longing for previous innocence.
On the downside, there is also a periodic recurrent view of the faces and circumstance of those bested in hand- to- hand combat.
While experience teaches that there is a potential for a great deal of pain in remembrance, more for fallen comrades than foe (although there is that as well,) such things are best dismissed as soon as they appear before the mind's eye.
612 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:20:36am |
re: #603 Killgore Trout
The lefties are still fuming over the public option vote yesterday. Expect another drop in Obama's poll #'s.
What are the details on that?
613 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:21:03am |
The many names of John Neverbend...
Slab Bulkhead, Bridge Largemeat, Punt Speedchunk, Butch Deadlift, Hold Bigflank, Splint Chesthair, Flint Ironstag, Bolt Vanderhuge, Thick McRunfast, Blast Hardcheese, Buff Drinklots, Crunch Slamchest, Fist Rockbone, Stump Beefnaught, Smash Slamjaw, Punch Rockgroin, Buck Plankchest, Stump Junkman, Dirk Hardpeck, Rip Steakface, Slate Slabrock,
Crud Bonemeal, Brick Hardmeat, Rip Slagcheek, Punch Sideiron, Gristle McThornbody, Slate Fistcrunch, Buff Hardback, Blast Thickneck, Crunch Buttsteak, Slab Squatthrust, Lump Beefbroth, Touch Rustrod, Beef Blastbody, Big McLargehuge, Smoke Manmuscle, Beat Punchmeat, Hack Blowfist, and Roll Fizzlebeef
614 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:21:08am |
This Newsmax Perry article advocating for a military coup is so completely outrageous. And yet somehow I'm not even that shocked, because the anti-Obama rhetoric coming out of the far-right has been so extreme this whole time. If this keeps up, I have no doubt that some sort of violence is going to occur. I certainly wouldn't want to work in a Federal office building in the South right now, that's for sure.
615 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:21:13am |
re: #608 FrogMarch
777's rock.
Many years ago I was on a flight back to Denver in the middle of a huge snow storm. We were diverted to Colorado Springs. It was the scariest landing of my life. It felt like the wind had control of the plane, and like wind-shear was going to slam us into the ground. First time ever I had the barf bag out.
And what did you find? :)
Two weeks ago, I was asking passengers around me if they thought they were going to need their air sickness bags, or could I have them.
They looked at me really strange.
616 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:22:25am |
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
I hate to write about this, but I have actually been to this play before and it is really disturbing.I was in Israel interviewing Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin just before he was assassinated in 1995. We had a beer in his office. He needed one. I remember the ugly mood in Israel then — a mood in which extreme right-wing settlers and politicians were doing all they could to delegitimize Rabin, who was committed to trading land for peace as part of the Oslo accords. They questioned his authority. They accused him of treason. They created pictures depicting him as a Nazi SS officer, and they shouted death threats at rallies. His political opponents winked at it all.
And in so doing they created a poisonous political environment that was interpreted by one right-wing Jewish settler as a license to kill Rabin — he must have heard, “God will be on your side” — and so he did.
617 | Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:23:21am |
re: #590 Occasional Reader
Question: How did the Six Million Dollar man get any cardiovascular exercise? Think about it.
Umm, all the hotties from the show gave him quite the workout!!
618 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:23:23am |
re: #615 Walter L. Newton
And what did you find? :)
Two weeks ago, I was asking passengers around me if they thought they were going to need their air sickness bags, or could I have them.
They looked at me really strange.
One time, flying home to fish country from a visit to the then-soon-to-be-Mrs. Fish, we had to drop through a thunderstorm on the approach path to the airport. You could see the towering cloud from miles away, only thunderstorm in the Midwest area, and we just sank right into it and it was like the plane hitting a solid wall of air.
619 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:23:26am |
"I was on a plane full of 'Young Life' kids once. Do you know how disconcerting it is to be the only person on the plane who does care if it goes down or not?"
620 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:23:36am |
re: #619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"I was on a plane full of 'Young Life' kids once. Do you know how disconcerting it is to be the only person on the plane who does care if it goes down or not?"
-Dennis Miller
621 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:23:55am |
622 | bofhell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:19am |
623 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:28am |
re: #564 Occasional Reader
Did you have a dream about the King of Sweden?
He gave you everything you'd been needin'?
Ya' got me.
624 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:30am |
625 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:38am |
re: #612 Spenser (with an S)
I haven't figured it out yet. Lefty reporting on the issue is just a witch hunt against the "traitors" and wingnut reporting is just crowing about an Obama failure.
I suspect the public option isn't going to end up in the final bill but that's just a guess.
626 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:48am |
re: #618 thedopefishlives
One time, flying home to fish country from a visit to the then-soon-to-be-Mrs. Fish, we had to drop through a thunderstorm on the approach path to the airport. You could see the towering cloud from miles away, only thunderstorm in the Midwest area, and we just sank right into it and it was like the plane hitting a solid wall of air.
Oh, I didn't need the air sickness bags, i was just having fun with the other passengers. They weren't so amused.
627 | gregb Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:24:56am |
re: #598 Ojoe
I got a center out of 5 seat on an airbus going from lax to heathrow. Some guy two rows back had a heart attack after projectile vomiting for 10 minutes. We had to make a fully loaded emergency stop in Santa Fe after dumping a full tank of jet fuel.
We had to wait 2-1/2 hours for the brakes to cool down.
628 | Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:25:23am |
re: #616 Killgore Trout
This stuff coming out of the left is getting as disturbing as the crappola coming from the right. Why do people at the extremes seem to think we're headed for dictatorship or civil war? It's fucking nuts, and it detracts from reality.
Friedman, Beck, Midler, Jones, Vidal, and Buchanan, will you please STFU and STFD!
629 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:25:23am |
630 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:25:34am |
re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The Senate is no place to animate your PTSS.
I first read that as "PISS".
631 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:26:13am |
632 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:26:14am |
re: #604 Walter L. Newton
I thought so. As I mentioned above, I am talking about the 200-300 everyday plain vanilla aircraft that flies thousands of flights a day.
Not small local commercial flights, 10 passenger planes that loose a wheel on the runway or overshoots the runway and ends up in some bushes.
I'm talking about the occasional 747 or Airbus that drops out of the sky. Your chances of walking away is almost nil.
So, what, me worry?
Except you're still wrong. Seriously: Here is a list of incidents involving 747s. [Link: www.airsafe.com...] A large number involve full loss of passengers, but from a quick look (sorry, getting ready for class as a type this), id be surprised if that number was much greater than 50%. In many cases there was causality numbers around 30 out of 231. Thats ignoring things like lockerbie and kal007, both 747s.
633 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:26:20am |
re: #628 Honorary Yooper
This stuff coming out of the left is getting as disturbing as the crappola coming from the right. Why do people at the extremes seem to think we're headed for dictatorship or civil war? It's fucking nuts, and it detracts from reality.
Friedman, Beck, Midler, Jones, Vidal, and Buchanan, will you please STFU and STFD!
Except Vidal is from the far left, so he must be right.
634 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:26:40am |
re: #600 Occasional Reader
The 777 looks like it's imitating a Harrier!
It does. re: #615 Walter L. Newton
And what did you find? :)
Two weeks ago, I was asking passengers around me if they thought they were going to need their air sickness bags, or could I have them.
They looked at me really strange.
they looked at you strange? Hard to figure. ;-)
635 | Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:27:49am |
re: #615 Walter L. Newton
And what did you find? :)
Two weeks ago, I was asking passengers around me if they thought they were going to need their air sickness bags, or could I have them.
They looked at me really strange.
Downright evil, Walter. I like it. I think I'll steal it for the next time I'm on an airplane.
636 | albusteve Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:27:55am |
re: #628 Honorary Yooper
This stuff coming out of the left is getting as disturbing as the crappola coming from the right. Why do people at the extremes seem to think we're headed for dictatorship or civil war? It's fucking nuts, and it detracts from reality.
Friedman, Beck, Midler, Jones, Vidal, and Buchanan, will you please STFU and STFD!
the town hall shouting matches were supposed to be a prelude to all sorts of civil strife and violence...people go over the top, and it's typically no big deal, imo
637 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:28:11am |
638 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:28:32am |
re: #584 FrogMarch
Kai Tak airport definitely provides some scary landing scenarios and that one takes the cake.
639 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:28:53am |
re: #583 sattv4u2
Sorry, but thats bad math. You cannot add the two "statistics". They are seperate variables. In the 1st you're stating that out of every 100 plane crashes 47% of the time everyone will survive
In scenario #2 out of the 53 plane crashes (out of a hundred) you have a 1 in 4 chance of living, meaning if you are in a crash that has survivors 75% of people die
However, if you make an assumption as to the average number of people per plane, you can figure out the individual survival rate.
Assume the average number of people is N per plane. Then the probability of all N surviving is given as 0.47. If the individual survival probability is p then p^N = 0.47. From there, it's easy to calculate p. For N = 200, p = 0.876.
Sattv4u2, did I get it right?
640 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:29:19am |
Well, folks. I need to go and meet some real humans.
Y'all kick it, now!
641 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:29:36am |
re: #639 John Neverbend
I was told there would be no math.
642 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:29:45am |
re: #613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The many names of John Neverbend...
Slab Bulkhead, Bridge Largemeat, Punt Speedchunk, Butch Deadlift, Hold Bigflank, Splint Chesthair, Flint Ironstag, Bolt Vanderhuge, Thick McRunfast, Blast Hardcheese, Buff Drinklots, Crunch Slamchest, Fist Rockbone, Stump Beefnaught, Smash Slamjaw, Punch Rockgroin, Buck Plankchest, Stump Junkman, Dirk Hardpeck, Rip Steakface, Slate Slabrock,
Crud Bonemeal, Brick Hardmeat, Rip Slagcheek, Punch Sideiron, Gristle McThornbody, Slate Fistcrunch, Buff Hardback, Blast Thickneck, Crunch Buttsteak, Slab Squatthrust, Lump Beefbroth, Touch Rustrod, Beef Blastbody, Big McLargehuge, Smoke Manmuscle, Beat Punchmeat, Hack Blowfist, and Roll Fizzlebeef
I confess, they're all sockpuppets.// Would you mind posting the video again, in which these names appear?
644 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:30:15am |
re: #634 FrogMarch
they looked at you strange? Hard to figure. ;-)
Really, I'm like an in flight comedian. On the flight out to NYC, we had a change over at Detroit (I guess they need the concession business) and on the new plane, the flight attendant asked me if I would move to the emergency door and operate it in case of an emergency. I must have looked capable (and sober).
So, I'm walking down the aisle, talking out loud...
"Hey. I'm going to be at the emergency door. So, in case of a problem, you want to know where the door is, just look for the man standing up SCREAMING at the top of his lungs."
The flight attendant wasn't amused at all.
I still got the emergency door seat. Much more leg room then the others in coach.
645 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:30:19am |
646 | Equable Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:30:28am |
647 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:31:23am |
The Left has something very special to me - Jews who hate Israel.
Until and unless they purge those fuckers, I will be staying to the right of centre where it's relatively sane.
648 | Honorary Yooper Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:31:51am |
re: #644 Walter L. Newton
LOL! What airline did you take? Northwest?
649 | Flyers1974 Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:32:09am |
re: #560 Capitalist Tool
Understand, please- these fine fellows are paid to lead not get themselves re- elected by pandering to the latest crazed notion of a shrill populace.
They are paid to represent their respective states. I think "pandering" is closer to the meaning of "represent[ing]" than to "leading."
650 | McSpiff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:32:59am |
Anyways Lizards, I gotta get this paper handed in. Enjoy yourselves.
651 | Pianobuff Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:32:59am |
652 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:33:20am |
re: #638 lawhawk
Kai Tak airport definitely provides some scary landing scenarios and that one takes the cake.
Whoa.
(and the runway looks too short.)
653 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:33:41am |
re: #629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Liza Minelli.
Oh, wait. That proves my point...
I saw her on a L&O rerun this a.m.. What happened to her eyebrows?
654 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:35:00am |
If God had wanted me to fly, I'd have wings.
655 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:36:25am |
re: #653 MandyManners
I saw her on a L&O rerun this a.m.. What happened to her eyebrows?
She was actually pretty funny on Arrested Development.
656 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:36:46am |
re: #638 lawhawk
[Video]Kai Tak airport definitely provides some scary landing scenarios and that one takes the cake.
In an older version of Microsoft Flight Simulator, they had you fly a 737 on that approach path. I couldn't imagine doing that in a real plane. Watching that pilot do it just gives me the creeps.
657 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:37:02am |
re: #648 Honorary Yooper
LOL! What airline did you take? Northwest?
Yep. It was United, but we were on NW all the time.
658 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:37:32am |
re: #629 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Liza Minelli.
Oh, wait. That proves my point...
Liza's mom, Judy Garland, was sort of the 1st in the line of Janis, Jim, Jimi, et al, only in slow motion.
659 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:38:14am |
I wonder if a plane has ever crashed after hitting a flag pole.
660 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:38:34am |
The Times-Tribune received a suspicious fax Friday night, which staff immediately turned over to the FBI. The fax came with the “RE” headline of “I Did It” and referenced the death investigation of Bill Sparkman, a census worker whose body was found hanged in Clay County on Sept. 12.
“I must state the truth,” the fax read, “Bill Sparkman personally didn’t have any enemies, but the Federal government certainly does. So it’s unfortunate that he was representing them when he was out in Clay County. The only good thing to come of this is that the Fed’s (sic) have stopped the census being taken, for now at least.”
The FBI agent handling the Sparkman case said the fax appears to have been sent from an e-mail account. It was signed “Me, Too” but also contained a name that the Times-Tribune has been unable to verify. It was also unclear from where the fax had been sent.
“Having reviewed the contents, we’re not taking it as a serious admission,” the agent said. “...There’s no way to immediately validate the source, and there’s nothing necessarily in it that you couldn’t get from the news.”
661 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:39:07am |
re: #638 lawhawk
Kai Tak airport definitely provides some scary landing scenarios and that one takes the cake.
It shut down in 1998. When I flew to HK last year, I landed at Chek Lap Kok (another name for Fat Bastard Vegetarian's list?).
662 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:39:16am |
re: #644 Walter L. Newton
The flight attendant wasn't amused at all.
I still got the emergency door seat. Much more leg room then the others in coach.
As long as the seat goes back - that extra leg room is worth it.
You should add - "Don't worry folks - if we crash, it will all be over in an instant!" to your act.
663 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:39:53am |
re: #659 MandyManners
I wonder if a plane has ever crashed after hitting a flag pole.
Has a stew ever crashed at a mile- high after an encounter with a pole?
664 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:40:11am |
re: #616 Killgore Trout
And in so doing they created a poisonous political environment that was interpreted by one right-wing Jewish settler as a license to kill Rabin — he must have heard, “God will be on your side” — and so he did.
So Tom Friedman is a mind reader, now? But he thinks the "Saudi Plan" will bring "peace."
This asswipe lost relevance along with Dan Rather.
665 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:41:08am |
666 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:42:15am |
re: #662 FrogMarch
As long as the seat goes back - that extra leg room is worth it.
You should add - "Don't worry folks - if we crash, it will all be over in an instant!" to your act.
Honest truth... after we were airborne, I put my hand up toward the door latch and asked the guy next to me... "Shouldn't we have a drill so I know how to use this?"
His answer was a curt "No!"
667 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:43:07am |
re: #663 Capitalist Tool
Has a stew ever crashed at a mile- high after an encounter with a pole?
I'll never forget the consternation I caused when I was a teen and I asked my dad if he was a member of United's mile-high club. He was a member of their airport club thing so I wondered if there was another club. I had no idea.
668 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:43:35am |
re: #664 Alouette
So Tom Friedman is a mind reader, now? But he thinks the "Saudi Plan" will bring "peace."
This asswipe lost relevance along with Dan Rather.
Friendman? ACK!
669 | laZardo Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:44:09am |
Gonna get a drink and head to sleep before I end up staying up until 3 AM again. Cheers.
670 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:44:17am |
671 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:44:57am |
re: #669 laZardo
Gonna get a drink and head to sleep before I end up staying up until 3 AM again. Cheers.
Can o' Foster's?
672 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:45:11am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
Honest truth... after we were airborne, I put my hand up toward the door latch and asked the guy next to me... "Shouldn't we have a drill so I know how to use this?"
His answer was a curt "No!"
I wouldn've hit you with my Bunny Fu Fu.
673 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:45:20am |
re: #661 John Neverbend
That's right. Hong Kong built a new airport on an island in the middle of the sea, shaving down one of the nearby mountains in the process - to make landings safer all the way around. Never got a chance to see the old airport in action, but it definitely looked like a nailbiter.
674 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:45:30am |
675 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:45:43am |
re: #669 laZardo
Gonna get a drink and head to sleep before I end up staying up until 3 AM again. Cheers.
Sweet dreams!
676 | Dianna Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:45:58am |
677 | J.S. Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:46:49am |
CNN is reporting that ther's been another Indonesian quake...(Tsunami alert canceled.)
678 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:46:50am |
re: #673 lawhawk
That's right. Hong Kong built a new airport on an island in the middle of the sea, shaving down one of the nearby mountains in the process - to make landings safer all the way around. Never got a chance to see the old airport in action, but it definitely looked like a nailbiter.
I heard some hair-raising stories.
679 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:46:59am |
680 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:17am |
re: #628 Honorary Yooper
This stuff coming out of the left is getting as disturbing as the crappola coming from the right. Why do people at the extremes seem to think we're headed for dictatorship or civil war? It's fucking nuts, and it detracts from reality.
Friedman, Beck, Midler, Jones, Vidal, and Buchanan, will you please STFU and STFD!
Not really sure why you have to throw in that false equivalency there. Say what you will about opposition to Bush, but it was no where near as mainstream or legitimized as this disgusting anti-Obama vitriol. Sure, there were nutjob anti-war protesters holding Bush = Hitler signs. But they were not appearing on cable news outlets nightly.
This current climate is so scary because these nirther lunatics aren't fringe elements. They are being mainstreamed by Fox News, Beck, Hannity, Drudge, and the rest of the right-wing noise machine. And people are going to die because of it. And not because Murdoch et. al. believe a single word of it. Simply because they know it's an easy way to make a fast buck pandering to a bunch of idiots.
681 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:29am |
Made chicken, bacon and roasted corn chowder for dinner last night. I wonder if there's any left?
682 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:29am |
683 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:38am |
re: #677 J.S.
CNN is reporting that ther's been another Indonesian quake...(Tsunami alert canceled.)
In addition to the 7.9 and 5.5 this morning?
684 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:44am |
re: #672 MandyManners
I wouldn've hit you with my Bunny Fu Fu.
Little Bunny Fu Fu, I don't want to see you picking up the field mice and bopping them on the head.
685 | FrogMarch Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:54am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
Honest truth... after we were airborne, I put my hand up toward the door latch and asked the guy next to me... "Shouldn't we have a drill so I know how to use this?"
His answer was a curt "No!"
That's kinda pushing it. If I were your seat mate, you would have felt my sharp elbow.
686 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:47:55am |
“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… f—ing, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to f— young girls. Juries want to f— young girls. Everyone wants to f— young girls!”
Scumball
687 | bosforus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:48:00am |
re: #660 Killgore Trout
Probably some low life wanting to take credit sending emails from a public library or something.
688 | Dianna Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:48:39am |
re: #677 J.S.
CNN is reporting that ther's been another Indonesian quake...(Tsunami alert canceled.)
I heard that twice on the way in. They're saying the immediate death toll was 5, but it's expected to go higher. Lots of people trapped in collapsed buildings.
Very sad.
689 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:49:41am |
690 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:50:12am |
re: #684 Walter L. Newton
Little Bunny Fu Fu, I don't want to see you picking up the field mice and bopping them on the head.
Hare today, gone tomorrow.
691 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:50:24am |
re: #676 Dianna
I'm doing much better. I might even have a beer today, maybe tomorrow. How are you doing?
692 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:50:31am |
re: #685 FrogMarch
That's kinda pushing it. If I were your seat mate, you would have felt my sharp elbow.
Or contemplating an answer to my question regarding your preference for viewing your hand laying on the floor or still attached to your arm...
693 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:50:36am |
re: #686 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Scumball
So sick of reading op-ed pieces defending this piece of shit. He raped a 13-year old girl and then fled the country. Throw his ass in fucking prison so he can get a taste of his own medicine.
694 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:51:23am |
re: #693 drcordell
So sick of reading op-ed pieces defending this piece of shit. He raped a 13-year old girl and then fled the country. Throw his ass in fucking prison so he can get a taste of his own medicine.
For once we agree on something. Upding for you.
695 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:51:31am |
A little "Afraid to Fly" story:
My friend and his wife live in another city thus we don't manage to get together often. Anyway they have close friends in their town and chartered a Caribbean cruise aboard a yacht with two other couples who live on their block. My friends wife (let's call her, Cat) has great fear of flying so my friend (let's call him, Tom) knowing of Cat's fear said, "Now Cat, please be sure you're up to flying to Miami, then on to San Juan where the boat is before I pay for both the yacht and the airfare. Cat assured Jim she would do it. I suppose she was thinking also of the other two couples who were all such great friends and the whole idea sounded very nice. Also, it was a six passenger yacht thus there would be no strangers. For Tom's part, knowing Cat, he offered this little incentive: "This is costing a lot of money. If you chicken out I'm going without you." This came "after" Tom contacted the airline to describe Cat's fear. The airline (I may not be accurate about this) arranged for or put Tom in contact with a group who deal with such fears. Cat did her part and attended the classes. They rented a limo to take them to the airport with Cat supposedly brimming with confidence and anticipation. Upon arrival at the airport Cat refused to get out of the limo. No amount of coaxing could change Cat's resolve to return home even with Tom saying he's going with or without her. Cat went home. Tom and the others flew off. Aboard the yacht the two female deckhands asked for and received permission from the female guests to go topless. Probably 100 photos were taken of Tom with the deckhands close by for Cat's later enjoyment.
Fear of flying is very real and I feel for those who can't overcome it. This was relevant about 200 posts ago. Sorry.
696 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:53:00am |
re: #693 drcordell
So sick of reading op-ed pieces defending this piece of shit. He raped a 13-year old girl and then fled the country. Throw his ass in fucking prison so he can get a taste of his own medicine.
Seems the same crowd enamored of Ted Bundy get the vapours over Polanski.
697 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:53:16am |
698 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:53:25am |
699 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:55:20am |
re: #666 Walter L. Newton
Honest truth... after we were airborne, I put my hand up toward the door latch and asked the guy next to me... "Shouldn't we have a drill so I know how to use this?"
His answer was a curt "No!"
In that regard, I give props to Virgin Airways. They actually take the Exit Row duties very seriously, and will brief the people sitting in those rows. They also allow NOTHING in your hands or on your lap for takeoff and landing, not even a book or magazine.
700 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:55:28am |
re: #698 Spare O'Lake
This guy deserves a very special sentence.
locked in a stock and pilloried at the Fulsom Street Fair and its equivalents for the rest of his days.
701 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:55:36am |
re: #695 Semper Fi
Has Cat's fear of flying diminished?
Is Tom's head still attached? Either of them?
702 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:55:46am |
re: #696 Capitalist Tool
Seems the same crowd enamored of Ted Bundy get the vapours over Polanski.
I don't recall Hollywood going crazy for Bundy.
703 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:56:36am |
re: #696 Capitalist Tool
Seems the same crowd enamored of Ted Bundy get the vapours over Polanski.
Not really sure I understand the Bundy reference here?
704 | MandyManners Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:56:38am |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
In that regard, I give props to Virgin Airways. They actually take the Exit Row duties very seriously, and will brief the people sitting in those rows. They also allow NOTHING in your hands or on your lap for takeoff and landing, not even a book or magazine.
What about my Bunny Fu Fu? Could I buckle him with me?
705 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:56:42am |
re: #702 MandyManners
I don't recall Hollywood going crazy for Bundy.
He was the darling of the literati...
706 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:57:22am |
re: #705 Capitalist Tool
He was the darling of the literati...
Well, darling of the jetset, at least.
707 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:57:37am |
re: #673 lawhawk
That's right. Hong Kong built a new airport on an island in the middle of the sea, shaving down one of the nearby mountains in the process - to make landings safer all the way around. Never got a chance to see the old airport in action, but it definitely looked like a nailbiter.
My "favorite" in the nailbiter category; Congonhas airport in Sao Paulo, Brazil, which is wildly close to the city center. On the approach for landing, you can look out the window at the adjacent skyscrapers, and pretty much see what people are having for breakfast.
708 | Spare O'Lake Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:57:43am |
re: #700 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
locked in a stock and pilloried at the Fulsom Street Fair and its equivalents for the rest of his days.
I'm thinking high voltage cattle prod.
709 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:57:44am |
710 | Dianna Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:57:58am |
re: #691 Killgore Trout
I'm doing much better. I might even have a beer today, maybe tomorrow. How are you doing?
Allergies kicked in, to complete my joy. However, the nasty weakness from the fever seems to have abated, and I'm hoping to feel well enough this evening to try a gentle bike ride.
711 | J.S. Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:58:41am |
re: #683 MandyManners
hmmm...Yesterday (Tuesday, around dawn in the Samoas, there was that major earthquake -- 8.3 -- a subduction zone fault, causing the Tsunami), then, today (Wednesday) there was another earthquake in Indonesia...thousands panicked, hundreds dead...(no Tsunami)...(that's how I understand it, thus far..)
712 | Kragar Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:58:57am |
re: #708 Spare O'Lake
I'm thinking high voltage cattle prod.
We dont have to be either or, we can do all of the above.
713 | Walter L. Newton Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:59:03am |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
In that regard, I give props to Virgin Airways. They actually take the Exit Row duties very seriously, and will brief the people sitting in those rows. They also allow NOTHING in your hands or on your lap for takeoff and landing, not even a book or magazine.
Well, NW didn't give me any special instructions, short of explaining to me that the operation of the door is in the seat pocket on a card. The same info that's available to all.
My sarcastic humor was a direct reference to the fact that these folks just sat me down and didn't even consider giving me any extra instructions or ask if I had any questions.
Of course, I would have done anything I needed to do if there was an emergency and I was capable. But I saw the whole "exercise" to be lacking.
714 | Dianna Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:59:11am |
715 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 30, 2009 8:59:56am |
re: #704 MandyManners
What about my Bunny Fu Fu? Could I buckle him with me?
716 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:00:06am |
re: #707 Occasional Reader
My "favorite" in the nailbiter category; Congonhas airport in Sao Paulo, Brazil, which is wildly close to the city center. On the approach for landing, you can look out the window at the adjacent skyscrapers, and pretty much see what people are having for breakfast.
My wife tells a similar tale flying into Quito (I think) Ecuador. Instead of skyscrapers, it is mountains though.
717 | Spenser (with an S) Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:00:27am |
OK, British Airways story. My wife and I had saved our pennies and were taking our first trip to Europe and I had always wanted to fly BA. Bought the coach tickets ($500) and, a few months later, showed up at the airport. I always ask at check-in for exit rows for leg room and just before boarding, we were asked to come to the desk. This blessed angel put us in their new "Club Room" seats with the little pods and the bed seats! We were so stoked I could barely sleep because I didn't want to miss a minute. I love them now and always will.
718 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:00:47am |
re: #707 Occasional Reader
My "favorite" in the nailbiter category; Congonhas airport in Sao Paulo, Brazil, which is wildly close to the city center. On the approach for landing, you can look out the window at the adjacent skyscrapers, and pretty much see what people are having for breakfast.
Yes, I remember flying from there to Rio, one morning a few years ago, and looking out of the window at an apartment building passing close by the wing of the aircraft. When you arrive at the airport (the old part), it's like a bus station. The modern part is a lot better. Also, I like the way that passengers board aircraft at the front and the back.
719 | Ben Hur Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:01:40am |
re: #616 Killgore Trout
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
The anger wasn't about land for peace, the anger was about land for terror.
12 Jan 1994 1 killed in stabbing attack in Rishon Le-Zion
14 Jan 1994 1 killed in stabbing attack at Erez junction
9 Feb 1994 1 killed after being kipnapped
10 Feb 1994 1 killed near Kibbutz Na'an
13 Feb 1994 1 killed, 2 injured in ambush of car
19 Feb 1994 1 killed in shooting ambush on car in Samaria
25 Feb 1994 1 British citizen injured in stabbing in Hebron
25 Feb 1994 1 killed in axe attack in Kfar Saba
22 Mar 1994 2 injured in attack on workers in Kibbutz Nahal 'Oz
23 Mar 1994 1 killed in shooting attack in East Jerusalem
29 Mar 1994 axe attack in Petah Tikva injured one who dies a few days later
31 Mar 1994 1 killed by terrorists entering an apartment
6 Apr 1994 8 killed (one died 25 Apr), 44 injured by car-bomb attack on a bus in Afula
7 Apr 1994 1 killed, 4 injured in shooting attack at Ashdod junction; the terrorist was killed by bystanders
13 Apr 1994 5 killed (including 1 soldier), 30 injured by suicide bombing on bus in Hadera
18 Apr 1994 4 injured in attack on bus: 2 injured in axe attack, 2 injured by shots which killed terrorist
21 Apr 1994 1 killed, a soldier who had been kidnapped near Beit Hanina
7 May 1994 1 American injured in stabbing in Hebron
17 May 1994 2 killed in shooting attack on car near Beit Haggai
20 May 1994 2 soldiers killed in shooting attack in Gaza
20 May 1994 1 student injured in stabbing in Jerusalem
1 Jul 1994 1 person stabbed by terrorists invading a home in Kiryat Netafim, died 2 Aug
7 Jul 1994 1 killed in drive-by shooting attack near Kiryat Arba
7 Jul 1994 1 killed near Kafr Akab
19 Jul 1994 1 killed in ambush near Rafiah
23 Jul 1994 1 American injured in stabbing in Jerusalem
12 Aug 1994 3 police officers injured in drive by shooting in Jerusalem
13 Aug 1994 3 police officers injured in attack on home of Ariel Sharon (two of three terrorists killed)
14 Aug 1994 1 killed in shooting ambush near Kissufim junction in Gaza
26 Aug 1994 2 killed in Ramle
Sep 1994 1 killed in Ashdod by strangling
4 Sep 1994 1 soldier killed in drive-by shooting at Morag junction in Gaza
9 Oct 1994 2 killed (including 1 soldier), 14 injured (including 1 American) in attack in Jerusalem (two terrorists also killed)
14 Oct 1994 3 soldiers killed, one who had been kidnapped (an American citizen) and two members of the team attempting to free him
19 Oct 1994 22 killed (including one Dutch), 75 injured by suicide bombing (one terrorist killed) on bus in Tel-Aviv
11 Nov 1994 3 soldiers killed, 6 people injured by suicide bomber on a bicycle at Netzarim junction
14 Nov 1994 2 injured by bomb thrown at car in East Jerusalem
19 Nov 1994 1 soldier killed in drive-by shooting at Netzarim junction
27 Nov 1994 1 killed in drive-by shooting near Beit Hagai
30 Nov 1994 1 soldier killed in axe attack in Afula
25 Dec 1994 13 injured in suicide bombing at bus stop in Jerusalem
6 Jan 1995 1 killed in shooting attack on car near Beit El
22 Jan 1995 22 killed (including 20 soldiers), 69 injured by two separate suicide bombers (both terrorists killed) at the Beit Lid junction near Netanya (three of the soldiers killed died after the bombing of injuries, one of whom died 16 December 1996)
6 Feb 1995 1 guard killed in drive-by shooting between Jabalya and Gaza City
13 Feb 1995 1 killed in stabbing attack near Jerusalem
19 Mar 1995 2 killed in shooting attack on bus near Hebron
29 Mar 1995 2 killed by intentional vehicle collision near Netzarim junction in Gaza
31 Mar 1995 1 killed, 7 injured by rockets fired from Lebanon
9 Apr 1995 8 killed (including 7 soldiers and 1 American), 50 injured (including 3 Americans) by a van-bomb attack
720 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:02:02am |
re: #716 Creeping Eruption
My wife tells a similar tale flying into Quito (I think) Ecuador. Instead of skyscrapers, it is mountains though.
I haven't been to Quito in years, and don't recall.
Flying into Cuzco, Peru, is kind of exciting in that same regard.
721 | SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:03:46am |
722 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:03:56am |
re: #719 Ben Hur
The anger wasn't about land for peace, the anger was about land for terror.
Wow. So you agree with his assassination.
723 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:04:11am |
re: #717 Spenser (with an S)
This blessed angel put us in their new "Club Room" seats with the little pods and the bed seats!
Good job! Every once in a great while, I've gotten a free upgrade just for being my charming self. It was easier 7 or 8 years ago than now... either they've changed the rules, or I've gotten less charming.
724 | Ben Hur Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:04:41am |
725 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:04:52am |
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726 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:04:55am |
re: #701 Capitalist Tool
Has Cat's fear of flying diminished?
Is Tom's head still attached? Either of them?
Theirs is truly a marriage made in heaven. They show the photos often. All is well and Cat still won't fly.
727 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:05:06am |
re: #703 drcordell
Ted Bundy was widely defended in certain circles.
He mixed easily with the glitterati and was considered by many of them as "one of us".
As so often happens within those vapid orbs, none could imagine such horror ascribed to any of their own.
728 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:06:11am |
Newsmax Distances Itself From Columnist, Says We Believe In Constitutional Gov't
In a statement sent to TPM, Newsmax spokeswoman Paula Pradines said that John L. Perry -- the columnist who claimed a military coup to "resolve the Obama problem" was increasingly possible -- is just an "unpaid blogger" for the magazine.
"He has no official relationship with Newsmax other than as an unpaid blogger," she said.
On his Newsmax bio page, Perry is described as someone who "contributes a regular column to Newsmax.com." On the site's "Blogs" page, he's listed alongside other contributors including Ben Stein, Grover Norquist and Christopher Ruddy, the owner and editor-in-chief on Newsmax.
He has also written a column nearly every week since late 1999.
729 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:06:28am |
re: #724 Ben Hur
Nice try.
How else was I supposed to construe your comments? You state that he was killed not because of "land for peace" but because of "land for terror" and then rattle off a list of deaths. What did you mean by that?
730 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:06:29am |
re: #720 Occasional Reader
I haven't been to Quito in years, and don't recall.
Flying into Cuzco, Peru, is kind of exciting in that same regard.
Still, none of this beats landing on runway 13 at LaGuardia during a strong wind. The chances of ending up in Flushing Bay are pretty good.
731 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:06:36am |
re: #720 Occasional Reader
I haven't been to Quito in years, and don't recall.
Flying into Cuzco, Peru, is kind of exciting in that same regard.
Maybe it was Peru? Maybe I should listen to my wife a little better? :)
732 | SpaceJesus Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:07:03am |
fun little video on atheism I found
733 | Capitalist Tool Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:07:16am |
re: #721 SanFranciscoZionist
Really? Odd.
read: glitterati.
My mistake, but only slightly so.
You would recognize names...
734 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:08:04am |
re: #733 Capitalist Tool
read: glitterati.
My mistake, but only slightly so.
You would recognize names...
They continued to rally around Bundy even after he was charged with being a serial killer? I wasn't aware of that.
735 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:08:28am |
re: #729 drcordell
How else was I supposed to construe your comments? You state that he was killed not because of "land for peace" but because of "land for terror" and then rattle off a list of deaths. What did you mean by that?
Clearly, he means that the deal did not result in "peace" but rather more terror, so to characterize it as "land for peace" is misleading. But you went ahead and did the calumny thing. Nice.
736 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:10:32am |
re: #735 Occasional Reader
Clearly, he means that the deal did not result in "peace" but rather more terror, so to characterize it as "land for peace" is misleading. But you went ahead and did the calumny thing. Nice.
No, that clearly is not what he means. The deaths he listed all occurred BEFORE Rabin was assassinated. Read what he wrote again.
737 | Occasional Reader Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:13:36am |
re: #736 drcordell
No, that clearly is not what he means. The deaths he listed all occurred BEFORE Rabin was assassinated. Read what he wrote again.
Um... your "point" is both true, and irrelevant.
Hey, if Ben Hur confirms that he applauds the assassination of Rabin, I'll reverse my downding of you, apologize, and direct my fire at Ben Hur. But I'm really not expecting to have to do that, to put it mildly.
738 | Semper Fi Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:15:16am |
re: #717 Spenser (with an S)
OK, British Airways story. My wife and I had saved our pennies and were taking our first trip to Europe and I had always wanted to fly BA. Bought the coach tickets ($500) and, a few months later, showed up at the airport. I always ask at check-in for exit rows for leg room and just before boarding, we were asked to come to the desk. This blessed angel put us in their new "Club Room" seats with the little pods and the bed seats! We were so stoked I could barely sleep because I didn't want to miss a minute. I love them now and always will.
Your last couple sentences reminded of my mother in her later years after she lost her driving privileges and was in an elder care facility until age 97. Couple years before she passed I took her with me driving to Michigan. On the highway she was very quiet but looking straight ahead. I asked if she was OK. She replied, "I love every inch of this road."
739 | Creeping Eruption Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:15:31am |
re: #736 drcordell
No, that clearly is not what he means. The deaths he listed all occurred BEFORE Rabin was assassinated. Read what he wrote again.
re: #737 Occasional Reader
Um... your "point" is both true, and irrelevant.
Hey, if Ben Hur confirms that he applauds the assassination of Rabin, I'll reverse my downding of you, apologize, and direct my fire at Ben Hur. But I'm really not expecting to have to do that, to put it mildly.
Likewise
740 | John Neverbend Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:17:10am |
re: #732 SpaceJesus
fun little video on atheism I found
Interesting. I think I'd have removed Chomsky from the list of "fools" and replaced him with Giuseppe Verdi.
741 | SixDegrees Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:17:37am |
re: #734 drcordell
They continued to rally around Bundy even after he was charged with being a serial killer? I wasn't aware of that.
This sounds more like Capote.
742 | Ben Hur Wed, Sep 30, 2009 9:21:31am |
re: #737 Occasional Reader
Um... your "point" is both true, and irrelevant.
Hey, if Ben Hur confirms that he applauds the assassination of Rabin, I'll reverse my downding of you, apologize, and direct my fire at Ben Hur. But I'm really not expecting to have to do that, to put it mildly.
Absolutely not.
Added for context.
Friedman is misleading his readers about the mood of the country and why.
He conveniently doesn't mention the terror campaign that Arafat brought with him in '94.
Arafat and I made aliya around the same time.
I was witness to all of it, including bombs that blew shit off my apt walls.
You can't mention the "atmosphere" in Israel from Madrid to Olso to Rabin's murder without mentioning terrorism.
743 | drcordell Wed, Sep 30, 2009 10:18:16am |
re: #742 Ben Hur
Absolutely not.
Added for context.
Friedman is misleading his readers about the mood of the country and why.
He conveniently doesn't mention the terror campaign that Arafat brought with him in '94.
Arafat and I made aliya around the same time.
I was witness to all of it, including bombs that blew shit off my apt walls.
You can't mention the "atmosphere" in Israel from Madrid to Olso to Rabin's murder without mentioning terrorism.
That may be true. But it seems as if your attempt to provide "context" for Rabin's assassination is an attempt to justify the motives of his assassin. At least thats the impression I was given.
744 | tradewind Wed, Sep 30, 2009 10:57:11am |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
All passengers are required to be asked whether they are capable of and willing to operate emergency exits if they are seated by them. If you're not, it's the flight attendant's fault, but since it's included in the pre-flight briefing, it's usually not left out.
The operation is simple to the point of needing no instruction, really... it's more a question of your ability. The window exits are very heavy, and must be tossed out before exiting, and the door exits open with an explosive bang that requires you to hang the hell on while popping them.